#Project Moon Games: Lobcorp, Ruina, Etc.

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neat cedar
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and also man

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the fanart

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has been popping the fruck off this canto

ebon forge
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Look if I was Hong Lu’s EN VA id go NUTS with his screams

vagrant dove
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The correct hongler gif

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They actually made this man undergo the plot of a Kafka novel

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Bravo KJH

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||I think I'm still haunted by that whimpering after he kills Lucio, my poor bug guy...||

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||Also I love how viscerally wrong the Roach Emperor was||

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||like the way it's lines are written make it almost Lovecraftian||

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||and that performance really sells it||

neat cedar
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it's such a fuckin horrid visual as well as filled with such

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spite

vagrant dove
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Yeah

neat cedar
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IT's not just a call for destruction, it is a statement that NOWHERE IS SAFE

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any safe place you have will be taken, corrupted, and infested

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there is no running, there is no hiding, there is only the end that is coming

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this is a very intensive phobia of mine, so it uh. . . it hit deep

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||Not a fear of bugs, but a fear of bugs being in places they should not be, invading my personal spaces||

vagrant dove
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||"They crawl out unheralded from betwixt all the lines that form where walls meet." was one that got me||

neat cedar
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yeeeeeeeeeerp

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fuuuuuckin hate it

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it's so good

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but fuck

ebon forge
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Gregor is summoning a full on GLITCH RPG wrong here

neat cedar
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||Then there was also the chant. "March marchconsumeprocreateconsume. . . . march||

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||It very much gets across the vibe of an inhuman consciousness that is speaking through Greg||

vagrant dove
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I think the most effective boss presentation was still ||muga ryoshu just- erasing everything (she's honestly the actual boss of 9-49)||

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||i thought my game was bugged||

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||but gregor's passives and santiy showing he was still conscious inside of that thing fucked me up||

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||my poor bug guy||

neat cedar
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||there was no mechanical reason to make it -90, but it perfectly shows through mechanics how much the thought of hurting someone like this destroys him||

vagrant dove
neat cedar
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mhmmm

faint pivot
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I love how stupid ||Hermes is for their supposed omniscience||

faint pivot
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It merely ||replicated the events leading to the creation of its ideal fighters, not understanding the concepts that went behind the people it's trying to copy||

vagrant dove
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Does ||Hermes powerscale||

faint pivot
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||Argalia was the laziest copy, Yan was barely an improvement, and Roland was F for Effort cause that was a flat miss lmao||

vagrant dove
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||I like how rien doesn't even like half the weapons he has||

faint pivot
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Or wait, I guess ||Yan wasn't Hermes' jig||

neat cedar
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||yeah I don't think Sora was meant to be Yan in any way||

faint pivot
faint pivot
neat cedar
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Oh yeah i think that was just like

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a way to introduce that concept to Limbus only peeps

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because I think the idea is VERY IMPORTANT to trying to understand the index

faint pivot
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That's part of it I believe, rather than the only reason it's there

neat cedar
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oh def not the only bit

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but I think that understanding the concept of both A) forging prescripts and the new one of B) sometimes the best way to follow a prescript is to not follow it

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were both incredibly important concepts for understanding this canto

mystic ermine
split beacon
neat cedar
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I mean what i say

mystic ermine
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well, don't have her, didn't see it
...how does... does that relate to understanding this Canto, though

split beacon
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she directly tells a Messenger "you're stupid, you should've realized that prescript wasn't as simple as literally doing what it says on the paper"

neat cedar
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That's just my thoery but it feels very important as a note

split beacon
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||He was supposed to stop his family's slaughter or at least try so he'd become a proper Roland copy instead of a hollow replica||

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||Instead he just stood there and did nothing||

neat cedar
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same as how Ujat outis' styory shows that Limbus company cannot be trusted

split beacon
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This is why Rien is a failure

neat cedar
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but i think it's a very solid read

split beacon
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nah it ties up the stray end with Rien

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which is why him

vagrant dove
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||or might do||

neat cedar
mystic ermine
# split beacon Rien

||but he did follow the prescript, and had he not, he would have been (he'd've lmao) been disfavoured by Hermes, no? In his mechanics, he's less likely to draw the coin he should for his respective pierce/slash/blunt skills depending on his carmic consequence, indicating that he must follow them, as otherwise, he would have fallen out of grace||

split beacon
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plus it puts Rien's daughter and all of his story into context and neatly fits it all together

neat cedar
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Dias is such a scum fuck

split beacon
neat cedar
vagrant dove
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I don't think it's gonna end well for Dias to be honest

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Given who she's uh

mystic ermine
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reading Faust uptie
What the fuck, guys

vagrant dove
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Based off

neat cedar
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||because despite the fact ath he followed every prescript, he still ended up out of favor and in the spider's house||

split beacon
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also remember

neat cedar
split beacon
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you don't end up in the House of Spiders for being an exemplary officer of the Fingers

neat cedar
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they are like that

split beacon
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you end up there because you're a failure that your higher-ups intend to bury for all time

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and in that respect

neat cedar
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when people say "oh yeha, being in the index is easy"

split beacon
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Rien isn't different than Valencina, Matthias, or Callisto

vagrant dove
# vagrant dove Based off

"My name is Ozymandias, King of Kings:
Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!"
No thing beside remains. Round the decay
Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare
The lone and level sands stretch far away."

neat cedar
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they do not realize just how wacky and nonsense the prescripts can get

mystic ermine
# neat cedar welcome to the index

no, I mean, I know that the Index is fucked up and evil
but
like
||grill your own head and serve it to your neighbour medium rare||? I didn't know we were in... urgh... W Corps Distrcict

neat cedar
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yeah

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Prescripts are fucked

split beacon
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but the thing about Prescripts is beyond just being fucked

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they're also interpretable

neat cedar
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mhmm

split beacon
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there's skill in figuring out what the Prescript wants from you, or a way of solving it that makes sense and thinks around the obvious problems it's throwing at you

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after all they only seem random

neat cedar
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mhmm

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but they are being sent with some purpose

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some way in how doing this, in a butterfly effect manner, helps further the finger's goals

split beacon
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ultimately I'm afraid that Rien was kind of the worst Proxy

neat cedar
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if it didn't work

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they wouldn't be a finger

vagrant dove
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Yeah he wasn't able to interpret Preacripts

split beacon
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he's terrible at interpretation

vagrant dove
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Just follow them

neat cedar
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yeeeeeeeeah

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YEEEEEAAAAAH

vagrant dove
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Which is not what the Index wants

split beacon
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a truly excellent Proxy, after all, doesn't just execute prescripts

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they guide their Familia and explain how to read prescripts to those who are confused

neat cedar
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||Imitation of a Father indeed||

split beacon
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also I appreciate that the Index's "native" language when terms aren't rendered in plain English seems to be Latin

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you know, not leaning into the religious inspirations too hard, but still casually implying that the Index is that for Cityfolk

neat cedar
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mhmm

split beacon
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the white and gold aesthetic too, it's subtle but it's there

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if you've ever been to the Vatican you know what it's supposed to evoke

neat cedar
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going into this canto, i thought i understood the index pretty much entirely

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coming out, i realize that I know NOTHING

cloud wadi
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There does seem to be implication that index have internal factions

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Between the different gods

karmic escarp
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||so how much of a coincidence is it that the first canto we get to see whats up with greg is the canto where we get access to the last two dante abilities that match the sephira charms on suddenly one day||

vagrant dove
split beacon
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Hermes loves him, but not enough for a third chance

karmic escarp
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||if the other Wills are named after the other greek gods do you think theyll show up in outis's canto ||

cloud wadi
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Hermes seems to have a

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Rather sick sense of humor

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Downright cruel

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Compared to south index

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Loom index

cloud wadi
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||poseidon is a god of the sea but it’s also a god associated with earthquakes||

karmic escarp
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WAIT TRUE

cloud wadi
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||vibrations||

karmic escarp
vagrant dove
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So we've had uhh

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Norse mythology references with relics

cloud wadi
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There’s gotta be a Mjolnir somewhere

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Valencina’s sword is supposedly a very special sword too yeah?

ebon forge
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anyways i love how this is all leading to Outis's canto being absolutely fucked

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imo Meursault's canto is gonna be completely opposite to Ryoshu's

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it's going to focus entirely on his story, probably

cloud wadi
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I love that Vergil’s best friend ||apparently was a bloodfiend btw||

vagrant dove
ebon forge
cloud wadi
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||he still lingers in his thought so much that his ego skill is called Funeral for a Dead Bloodfiend||

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We are just gonna have a nice little war for canto 11

ebon forge
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||honestly is it just me or does Vergilius feel a lot like Itachi||

cloud wadi
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Let us fight the r corp decisive weapon

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And it’s just a giant mecha

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Driven by a borderline illegal AI program

ebon forge
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inb4 it's just that one -1 cost ruina infinite cycle with 50,000,000 Myos

cloud wadi
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Honestly that could be a decisive weapon

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Just print out 50,000,000 myos and unleash them all

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And then trigger integrated explosives to kill them all at the end

ebon forge
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i would like myself 2 Myos

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also

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imo

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Callisto could've been perfect

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like, he just needed to be a teacher

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that's it. he would've been so, so happy as a teacher

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like, he's not inspired, but that's fine, because he can create and show live recreations of numerous artists

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god, i love Callisto

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I love him so so so much

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this dude, istg, i WANT him to teach me ring art (if im fine with gore, which i might be, in a pmoon world)

hybrid lynx
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honestly i think i'd make a decent ring member

ebon forge
neat cedar
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mood

ebon forge
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imma redo the two fights i didnt ex on

mystic ermine
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THE CARNIVAL!!!

neat cedar
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yeeee boi

mystic ermine
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Exhausted? Tired. Hungry? Want rest. Want out?

faint pivot
mystic ermine
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Himdeul-eoss-eoyo?

neat cedar
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they seem.to be fully under the index's sway now

faint pivot
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The messenger was told do so after all

mystic ermine
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Alright
that's kind of dope

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uh.
well
I read through it

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aaand I'm a bit confuddled

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what was the Messenger supposed to do?

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Make them... oh!

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what if he made them ||obviously false, and clearly stated that these are not real prescripts?||
he was only told to ||make fake prescripts, and distribute them - nothing about needing to conceal them, nothing about needing to be secretive, nothing about them needing to be executed.||

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just ||"Make false prescripts and distribute them"||

faint pivot
# cloud wadi Downright cruel

I can't help but if this is to broadcast ||"hey, y'know those potentialities we closed off in the prequels? how sure are you they're closed off?"||

mystic ermine
cloud wadi
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Her sword and her eye

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Was given to her by her family upon ascending to sottocapo status

faint pivot
mystic ermine
cloud wadi
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Before she used a bayonet

faint pivot
ebon forge
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yeah a yan copy makes sense

mystic ermine
mystic ermine
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The fuck dos

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well, I am no index, and not well versed

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so

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I can be excused

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for not knowing this shit

faint pivot
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After the latter ||vaults into the ether, she receives the prescript, and concludes that she must both off them and that they vaulted to attack her from above||

mystic ermine
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urgh

mystic ermine
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reading too much into it then

faint pivot
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Your point stands, and is correct

mystic ermine
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yay :D

faint pivot
mystic ermine
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...wayward passenger, huh...
the collective... trauma of ||WARP trains||?
Or just a single fella that lost their shit so hard they distorted?

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haah that taps into how abnos are created
was that one ||heaved from the well|| or ||a single being left alone||

faint pivot
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Guessing the former

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And no distortion

mystic ermine
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The ego and E.G.O

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wait, does... wait a second

faint pivot
mystic ermine
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WAIT

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hear me out

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...nevermind

faint pivot
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Speak

faint pivot
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Finish your thoughts first Magic

mystic ermine
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I was thinking that Faust said "||Face the Sin, Save the E.G.O||" to Ryoshu upon her recruitment
and I was wondering if that was meant more literally for the case of Ryoshu: "||Face the sin of killing your child, and save your own ego from oblivion||"
in other words;
did she know

ebon forge
faint pivot
ebon forge
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ok seriously though

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if rien sang is real

faint pivot
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Faust did reveal to Faust some rather...interesting factoids about ||Don Quixote during|| the WARP intervallo

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I can't help but imagine yes, she did

mystic ermine
ebon forge
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PLEASE make rien sang a triple status

ebon forge
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everything suggests she'll be burn bleed poise

mystic ermine
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ah

neat cedar
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5his Ish

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is a fuckin monster

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holy shit

faint pivot
neat cedar
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multiplying offense level gain

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is insane

mystic ermine
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Hear me out for Bad End Ryoshu
since she must have a sword: Poise
Bad End: Sinking
Hatrted: Burn
...
idfk where I?m going with this

incorporating all aspects of every finger, therefore, applying statuses from every one
I'm thinking about a... sort of...

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switch to which finger she aligns with?

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you know what I mean?

faint pivot
faint pivot
neat cedar
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i doubt potential

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like

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the middle's whole.thing is based om.Off level boosting

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and she also gets final and coin power buffs

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onntop.of that

faint pivot
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I'm using potential differently

neat cedar
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i think the funny thing is

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the middle works.vest

faint pivot
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In that unlike Jiaish who's deemed thus but was tailored/raised well

neat cedar
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when fighting mooks

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because then they can get longer chains going

faint pivot
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Kira(ish) is seemingly the opposite

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Her ||Matthias equivalent probably still neglected her but damn, multiplying OL on a POISE unit means she's popping off to hell and back in MD||

faint pivot
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My bad

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Ignore me

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Eepy

neat cedar
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the paralyze and bind on s2

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is nasty

atomic steeple
vagrant dove
ebon forge
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QoH support!!!!

mystic ermine
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because QoH prooobably is a fan of Fixers too because of Donqui

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...wait that'd mean that Lob Ids are in the same as...

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fuck off

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you now what I mean

mystic ermine
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hoaah

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...what if it's like
1.1 or smth

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I mean, still 10%

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yeah
but
I doubt it'd be anything more than 1.5... nah, 1.4, max

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-# watch it be 2

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neverfuckenmind

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you can
wait
no
correct me here, please

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does this mean that you can get as much offence level multiplication as you had envy res?

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surely not

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no, no I'm missreading this

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"multiply offense level gained from the above effect"

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where are you getting offense level multiplication from?

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it does say it right there
But only for the purpose of gaining as much as you had envy res

neat cedar
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the base effect

ebon forge
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also

neat cedar
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you get (high res/x) OL

ebon forge
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wow rien is easy once you figure out how to fight him

neat cedar
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if abs. res, double it

neat cedar
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just never let him hitnthenpresceipt target and read

ebon forge
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i did index team

neat cedar
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every fight this canto is more a puzzle than anything else

ebon forge
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sinking poise

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and the way to beat him is just to not let him yeah, hit em

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and the rest is forcing him to lose clashes via sinking

mystic ermine
mystic ermine
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had the pfp of a hood

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I think

neat cedar
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we don't know the value

ebon forge
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also

neat cedar
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i'm saying douboe because inthink that's how middle clair works

mystic ermine
ebon forge
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i think pmoon realizes they need to do something different with dual status finally

mystic ermine
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if it were a different one, it'd be
idfk
y

ebon forge
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because her logic would be actually viable bleed

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but then through conditionals

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she can become a actually usable burn id

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hopefully

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i pray

true bluff
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Uhh

mystic ermine
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...wouldn't she be kind of isolated as a burn Id?
Envy res teams don't really
have burn

neat cedar
true bluff
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it's

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not a burn ID

neat cedar
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burn has envy

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a decent amouny

neat cedar
true bluff
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it's a envy ID

neat cedar
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it's not ye

ebon forge
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she literally is a burn id though

neat cedar
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but u can use her in burn

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and more importanly

ebon forge
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not in the sense of true pure burn

neat cedar
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she works off of resonamce

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flat

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not envy res

ebon forge
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but in the sense of being status viable

neat cedar
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emvy res is good

cosmic gorge
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Only envy i know in burn is liusang

mystic ermine
mystic ermine
true bluff
cosmic gorge
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Which egos that work well with burn teams need envy again

mystic ermine
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let's see... can we make a... a...
a breed? burn bleed?
brun?
beern?

true bluff
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it all stats envy for the burn reson+middle effects

mystic ermine
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beer.

neat cedar
mystic ermine
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Beer id!!

neat cedar
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they do not say envy

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her passive has one

mystic ermine
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If we can make a beer tearm

ebon forge
mystic ermine
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team*

neat cedar
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but you also

mystic ermine
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damnit

true bluff
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her passive has two.

neat cedar
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have wnvy in burn

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sinclair

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liuishmael

cosmic gorge
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Breed ID

neat cedar
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liu sang

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there is enough envy in burn to make it work

mystic ermine
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however

ebon forge
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pla-

neat cedar
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so yeah, she can work fine on a burn team

ebon forge
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yeah her skills are all based on a-res

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which burn is incredibly good at

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they're loaded with wrath, sloth in general

neat cedar
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mhmm

true bluff
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but it's a middle ID

neat cedar
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indeed

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she works best in a middle team

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but she is not locked to a middle team

ebon forge
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but she's also viable in burn, most likely

true bluff
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it's a perfect middle ID, because the bleed getting extra burn will be hella cracked.

neat cedar
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and is designed ro faciliate that

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base bleed

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important difference

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still good

ebon forge
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she's explicitly written as a dual status who rides on a-res, and goes crazier when its envy

neat cedar
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the more impact ful status asoect is paralyze abd bind tho

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s2 is spooky

mystic ermine
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I... cant think of many burn ids with envy other than liu sang and you heath s1

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Well, and captain ish

neat cedar
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Phillip sjnclair

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liu sang

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liu ish

mystic ermine
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Are there any more?

mystic ermine
ebon forge
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not sure

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but also

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one of the cool things about burn is they are VERY easy to get a-res on

mystic ermine
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Sorry, fhats means

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Mean*

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Chrm

ebon forge
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there's a buttload of wrath, good amount of lust too

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you dont need thumbclair for this team, so caposault will bring the lust in, and has on-demand sloth for any sloth burns

neat cedar
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you heath also

ebon forge
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bleed is harder to do imo

neat cedar
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also don't forget

ebon forge
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good amount of envy there

neat cedar
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if u focua abit more in ency

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you know whonjust got

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a realy good ego resource gen ego

ebon forge
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and there's lots of lust + wrath

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actually, wait

mystic ermine
neat cedar
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Scissors goes hard

ebon forge
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scissoring outis...

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she might be able to fit on both burn and bleed actually

mystic ermine
mystic ermine
true bluff
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liu sang, chicken cliff, liu ish/captain ish, dawn clair are the only ID's I see that have envy and are burn.

ebon forge
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meursault, dulci, kk ish, r heath (kinda, for MD reasons)

mystic ermine
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only ones that come to mind, yes
haah
and then we'd need bleed, too, to make an envy res breed team

ebon forge
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and teddy outis is on-demand envy

neat cedar
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and rhat's more than enough

mystic ermine
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I'd use MB outis

mystic ermine
ebon forge
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that's 4 envy ids

neat cedar
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especially because i imagine the activation for thermal

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is prob not fonna be thatbhigh

ebon forge
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you can push for more lust / wrath a-res otherwise

mystic ermine
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wouldn't be surprised if it were like
gain 2

true bluff
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well isn't a resonance atleast 3 always?

neat cedar
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no

true bluff
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I've never gotten a 2 resonance before

neat cedar
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only absolute res

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i'm pretty sure

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Resomamce is just the act of linking up like colors in the chain as a whole

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absolute resonance is the one that lights everything up

ebon forge
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hmmm

neat cedar
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ye it doesn't require abs res to trigger

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it just says X res

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so if it's just like 2 envy

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thennyou'll be fine

true bluff
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Ideally it'd be 3, just to get the a-res too

mystic ermine
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ah, I think it'll be 3
so that you can have 1 envy, 1 wrath, 2 envy, and still proc it

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ye!

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as Arth said

neat cedar
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i mean a res needs them to be right next to each otger

true bluff
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just because that'd be outright getting more power on double dipping the mechanics.

ebon forge
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current envy team

ebon forge
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just updated it

neat cedar
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it can be envy, wrath envy

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and work

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Resonance and absolute resomance

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are different things

ebon forge
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main thing im looking at rn is all 3 ego gears, midleclair, kiraish, youcliff

neat cedar
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Resonance: Each skill if the same sin gets strong as it foes down thenchain but does nit need to be connected

ebon forge
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and last slot is decided

mystic ermine
true bluff
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it'd still be beneficial to have it be 3, so you are also encouraged to get A-res though

neat cedar
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Absolute resonance: If they are all conmected they get the same boost in power

ebon forge
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a-res has to be linked together

mystic ermine
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I

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I know

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why are you

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haah

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I meant to say that with 3, you don't need t be locked into getting an Abs. Resonance to activate thermal blades

neat cedar
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it's not locked

mystic ermine
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but just getting 2 envy skills wouln't be enough

neat cedar
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getting 2 should be enough

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imho

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because if ur usingnher for burn

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then ur already limited on envy

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so having a lower requirement to actually get the burn started makes sense

true bluff
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I mean we'll see when she drops, rather than theorising about the hums and hahs of it.

neat cedar
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i mean yeah

ebon forge
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yeah

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obvs

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but

neat cedar
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but it's fin to talk about it

ebon forge
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theorycrafting is fun

neat cedar
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and after 2 years, it's not hard to see how id desifn can flow.from.the preview

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and if they're intending to make this a middle id rhat can be used on ur typical burn team

ebon forge
#

i hope our matthias id is also breed

neat cedar
#

then it makes sense to keep the part of her passive that actually lets her do that easy to activate

ebon forge
#

given that it'd kinda be rodya or outis... fuck yeah?

neat cedar
#

the only thing that is locked to envy abs res is the part that is more closely tied to the middle

#

i.e. the grudge mechanic

#

also

#

this ish

#

is a really strong ego spammer

ebon forge
#

wait holy shit matthias is bleed that turns into all out burn

neat cedar
#

between her s1 and thermal blades

#

she can use and ego then start building it back up to max sp

ebon forge
#

also

neat cedar
#

ao this means

#

her with ardor blossom.and capote

ebon forge
#

we might have the ability to do a true quadruple status team soon

neat cedar
#

can go hard

cloud wadi
ebon forge
#

:3

#
burn bleed poise
burn bleed poise
burn       poise sinking 
burn bleed
burn       poise
     bleed poise
     bleed       sinking
#

burn bleed poise is defo easiest rn

#

tryna think of how we could quad status

#

burn poise sinking is just thoughts on riensang based on seasonal EGO

#

we need bleed sinking which is painpeko

faint pivot
#

Heathcliff in Burn hell YEAHHHH

neat cedar
ebon forge
#
xyz
xyz
 yzw
 yzw
xy w
x zw
x  w
neat cedar
#

butnyeah

#

i look forward

atomic steeple
ebon forge
#

damn a true quad team needs 5 triple status ids

neat cedar
#

to this canto being the year of the hybrid

ebon forge
#

i was figuring out the combo

faint pivot
atomic steeple
#

Multi keyword ego gifts might be the new trend

ebon forge
#

its 2 triples, 2 different ones, 1 different one, and then 2 doubles

atomic steeple
ebon forge
#

rupoise gifts are goated

faint pivot
#

Well the combo is
wxyz
wxy
wxy
xyz
xyz
wz
wz

#

Yours, but with a quad, basically

ebon forge
#

actually i missed something

#

it needs 6 triple status ids to work

atomic steeple
#

Ego passives tgat add keywords and mechanics might help ids fit into hybrid teans

ebon forge
#

assuming 8 sinners

faint pivot
#

I'd rather we stick to 7 so I can keep Fell Bulleting lmao

ebon forge
#
xyz
xyz
 yzw
 y w
xy w
x z
x  w
  zw
faint pivot
#

God I really hope that fucking

ebon forge
#

night

faint pivot
#

Tianha Star Ryoshu has no false statuses (from the perspective of MD gifts)

#

Like how Kimsault is Bloise, but only has Bleed on TCTB

#

Or Maost with Poise on her s3-2

#

Speaking of, what's our wagers on B.E.R.'s narrative? ||She can't be Person Incinerator since she lacks the ability to act, so I'm guessing that a) if we diverge like ManaDon, it'd be with her reaction to killing Araya (maybe her hatred spikes and she learns to erase early, erasing her daughter + her memories mid-fight), or b) if we go from the roots like Huntcliff or Hong Lord: Dihui Star Ryoshu where she takes the place of Araya and kills her mom, causing her to be hunted down by the Index which is where we catch her skills||

cloud wadi
#

Oh I know

#

It’ll be like Angela’s bad end

#

||she will successfully exterminate all of the Nursefathers and then trap Araya and herself inside the House because she knows they won’t survive out there||

#

Or Trap|| just herself after killing Araya to be sever her tie to the House||

faint pivot
#

Ghost of the Opera except it's a painting...neat!

atomic steeple
faint pivot
worthy haven
#

So I had a thought

#

||why are index Faust and Zuli Faus alive||

faint pivot
faint pivot
cloud wadi
faint pivot
#

As in why shouldn't they be

worthy haven
#

So

cloud wadi
#

Pffffttttt

worthy haven
#

||the admins ask if Faust wants to join the ranks of dead Fausts.||

faint pivot
#

That aside we can capture ||people about to die as IDs, preserving them post-mortem as seen in the WH world||

worthy haven
#

Which implies that there are reasons for termination

faint pivot
worthy haven
#

Oh true

faint pivot
#

Good shout

#

Even if it was

cloud wadi
#

I think they are just saying|| “hey if you keep acting like that you’ll find yourself in an early grave” as like a general warning rather than that they are gonna kill her||

faint pivot
#

Ah

worthy haven
#

||since index Faust got banned due to index wanting to mess with Gesellschaft and zilufaust is straight ignoring them||

worthy haven
cloud wadi
#

Index Faust isn’t banned

faint pivot
#

Or well

worthy haven
#

Oh ye

faint pivot
#

||She's shunned, ignored and unengaged with but she has access to its info||

worthy haven
#

So it's even worse technically

#

Since they wanna ban her but the cant

cloud wadi
#

Geschellshaft finds ||the index insight too valuable to ban her even though they are also wary of interacting with her||

faint pivot
#

Yeah like

worthy haven
#

So ye it might be hyperbole/just a general warning theb

cloud wadi
#

I mean they can ban her, but they won’t, because she’s too useful for them

#

She’s treated as like dangerous knowledge

faint pivot
worthy haven
#

I got brain scrambled then yee. I am sifting through the 250 characters of Faust part 2 to maybe identify that last Faust that is still mystery and it's urgh

cloud wadi
#

Because when they talk with ||index Faust they can never be sure if they are talking with the real Faust or the extension of the Will||

faint pivot
#

That tracks

worthy haven
#

||triple name Faust still eludes me||

faint pivot
#

I'm guessing it's a similar case with ||Zilu Fau except there's a marginally greater chance of swaying her||

cloud wadi
#

I don’t think Geschellshaft ||can actually hurt each ofher||

faint pivot
cloud wadi
#

But they do ||relentlessly mock failure and to a prideful person like Faust that’s a serious threat||

#

||imagine being immortalized as like the Darwin Awards||

faint pivot
cloud wadi
#

I think they legit just have ||their equivalent of the Darwin awards for dead faustS||

worthy haven
faint pivot
#

Fausts seem prideful to their core unless Rep Emitter is shared by only one of them

worthy haven
faint pivot
#

||Don't we have close in YuriFau?||

atomic steeple
#

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRlB4wETg2o
Thought it was an office, it's high school

Putting this here for the purpose of preservation because this video was deleted from YouTube. I don't claim any ownership over the video. 噗鲁子 is the creator of this video.
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vagrant dove
#

Faust ||getting mocked by the gesselschaft really reinforces her similiarities to heath tbh. Both are actually quite intelligent people who get ridiculed by everyone around them for a percieved lack of intelligence||

mystic ermine
#

LMAO

4-43 spoilers
this was
right
after the end of 4-42

cloud wadi
#

Hang on is Kiramael dealing blunt damage with a flaming sword

atomic steeple
#

Taste her flaming bat

cosmic gorge
#

not the first time

#

a swordmael is blunting it

mystic ermine
#

Who the fuck needs a backgroudn when there's hype moments and aura
spoilers for 9-45

atomic steeple
#

Oh nooo
The observation log for fruit of understanding has rodion complain that bugs are gross
And gregor kept checking it anxiously

neat cedar
#

yeerp

#

Rodya made a few "ew grody" commenta early on

#

like

#

it is crazy

#

to remember how the simmers were at thebstart

#

compared to now

atomic steeple
#

Was the purple monster walpurgis early on?

mystic ermine
#

Something is wrong.
I can feel it.
-# spoilers for part 3

cosmic gorge
#

you know what would be neat

#

some kind of meta-feature in a future fight where because of enemy fuckery, clicking Winrate will actually have it choose the worse clash options instead of the best

wild mango
#

My bet is that part of bad end ryoshu’s kit is being blade lineage don on steroids

#

Giving poise to other units

#

I hope she’s not burn/poise/bleed, i don’t want her invading the bleed team and replacing n shu

#

What would be REALLY fucked up is ||purple coins on her s3||

worthy haven
#

I think ||green and purple coins might be reserved on our side for the first aleph ego||

stoic fjord
wild mango
cosmic gorge
#

mmhmm

cosmic gorge
#

broisking

#

purnking

#

spoiurn

atomic steeple
vagrant dove
#

Fpoon

atomic steeple
mystic ermine
#

Didn't we
fucking
Kill him?
9-51 spoilers

#

awww she's using modern slang now...

#

AAWWHEHEH THEY'RE MOVING NOW

#

Right as
as her
name was
mentioned it

#

it moved on to Pass On

#

...it sounds like a lullaby...

#

hah... the theory that her sword is her daughter, huh?
||I wish it was more wrong that it is.||

#

IOOOHHHJKSDFHLKJSDAFHKLSDAJFHaawwww

atomic steeple
mystic ermine
#

Foreshadopwing

#

Holy fuck

#

how do you

#

even

#

EXIST

#

wait a FUCKING SECOND

#

this is where the

#

BAD ENDING OF ROLAND ||DYING|| IS FROM

vagrant dove
#

Yeah

mystic ermine
#

||Hermes. ||
I am

#

don't even

#

KILLING YOU

vagrant dove
mystic ermine
#

This is
fucked up
this is
so ufucked up

#

ARE YOU ME SHITTIN GME

#

WHSTA DOES THAT ¨$SDFHLJK DSAGLFKSDAGFASDF SDAF

#

nooo...

#

he...

#

awwwwww....

#

Straight to the Gesselschaft, huh

keen palm
#

This feels like an absurd amount of buffs on a single unit

unique bane
atomic steeple
#

So bonus damage will be a thing this season

mystic ermine
#

becauzse IU think

#

he

#

he genuinely cared

keen palm
#

Also this is the first ID with paralyze in 2 years

unique bane
#

he did but he was too hollow for that to mean anything

mystic ermine
#

alright.
so... ||Dias|| herself
alrigh
but
why?

#

alright alright, ||Jerk yourself off|| while you're at it too

#

just answer the question

#

So... she was kicked out
mhm

tiny cave
#

something interesting to note (9-30 spoilers)
||Sora's prescript says "Star, Gaze, Mirror, Bugs, Tempered Sword" when referring to the four sinners. Obv dante is star, yi sang is mirror, greg is bugs and ryo is tempered sword, so that means Mersault is "gaze", what could that mean?||

stoic fjord
#

chains of others

mystic ermine
#

gaze of others

#

the eyes

#

Huh, pretty

vagrant dove
# stoic fjord chains of others

Also reminded by the description of Gaze of that line he has in the Arknights collab, especially with the literary inspiration in mind (his vision being hampered by the effects of the Sun at a certain moment in The Stranger)

mystic ermine
#

The what.

#

9-51 spoilers

#

Witchcraft hunting guide?

#

ohh

#

they're gonna purge purge

#

us

#

never fuckign mind

#

this shit a

#

oh.

#

||This is the second smoke war.||

#

but isn't ||every other world||that contains these ||versions of you|| do that, too?

faint pivot
#

I feel like

#

Ok theory based on Vibes and small trends but

dusty sigil
#

From @ kitsuchaos

stoic fjord
#

wait is the reason Ishmael got the Kira ID because she also ||was treated as expendable by a superior in the past||

gentle mulch
#

so thermal blades on envy res.
ehhh i might pass on kiramael

faint pivot
#

I'm thinking that the line between Proxy and Messenger is ||your emotional capacity, specifically how your coping mechanisms handle the myriad wackness the prescripts give you||

keen palm
#

I think the reason Ishmael got the Kira ID is because

  1. Don already has a Middle ID
  2. She is also a hyperfixating nerd
lean fjord
#

Since she gains Thermal end of turn if without

gentle mulch
#

that needs envy res im p sure

stoic fjord
#

I'm getting Kiramael because I like her design

dusty sigil
#

She’s definitely an envy res unit and not a burn or bleed unit

faint pivot
#

||If you're the type to not let the negativity swallow you like Rien, Gloria etc.. then you're graduating into a Proxy. If you slowly self-destruct as you cope with the nonsense like Yan and InFau's messenger then you're a messenger, because while they're not useful to fighters just yet, these emotions just so happen to summon pretty dangerous monsters (though we've only seen 1 so shrug)||

gentle mulch
#

says "If without... and at X+ Envy Res"

#

but

keen palm
#

And if with thermal blades get thermal blades

gentle mulch
#

good news is that even if X is 2,

#

Once you get thermal blades you can upkeep it forever

stoic fjord
#

if X is 2 then just having two envy skills makes it work

#

right?

gentle mulch
#

should be

faint pivot
#

Yes

keen palm
#

Ya

gentle mulch
#

2/2=1

dusty sigil
#

How many does she need for her enhanced counter?

gentle mulch
#

I'm assuming 4-6

faint pivot
#

I like how MC Fau's just There btw

lean fjord
#

I feel like its gonna need 3 or 4 at least for the passive, but we'll see

stoic fjord
#

man I'm bored as shit

keen palm
#

She only needs 1

faint pivot
# stoic fjord man I'm bored as shit

Spread the word of lord Ayin I mean cast the non-believers into the well I mean bully I mean
To Juniper: convince someone to play Ruina to the end

stoic fjord
#

KJH can I please get a fucking event so I can level my bloodfiend team for MD already

stoic fjord
faint pivot
stoic fjord
#

fair enough

stoic fjord
#

I'll get to it

dusty sigil
#

So close to finishing my burn team

#

I need

#

1 more ID

#

And I’ll have it

lean fjord
#

I should try out bloodfiends again

stoic fjord
#

my burn team is finished for all intents and purposes

lean fjord
#

Haven't run it since Prince came out

dusty sigil
#

I’m gonna build it once burn is done

gentle mulch
#

there's nothing that's gonna replace Liu Sang for me
RienSang can have the craziest burn infliction but if there isn't sp support i dont caare

mystic ermine
gentle mulch
#

die

dusty sigil
#

||Its the Dihui Star you gotta look out for||

gentle mulch
#

I am going to insta build ryoshus bad end id without question tho

dusty sigil
#

For sure

gentle mulch
#

...

#

it's noootttt the bessttt

#

so i think any modern ryoshu burn id will replace her

dusty sigil
#

They’re calling her “the most mediocre burn unit of all time”

faint pivot
#

If B.E.R. ||inflicts Burn through a status buff like Dihui does I'll be sad||

gentle mulch
#

yeah

#

if it's half assed burn infliction I'll pass

stoic fjord
#

Firefist
MB
Thumbsault
Thumbclair
Liu Sang
Cinq East Don
ABS Faust

dusty sigil
#

I’m doing the same but replace Cinq East Don with Liu Rodion

#

Oh also Dawnclair instead of Thumbclair

stoic fjord
#

I'm lowkey going to fucking break something

#

I need

#

so many god forsaken tickets

#

just to get the core of my team prepped

lean fjord
#

Just from that one status in the final fight

stoic fjord
#

my guess is that even if indirect, she'll have something like Kiramael to make it count

vagrant dove
#

Millions must toil in the lux mines

lean fjord
#

I'm actually okay on XP tickets for once

#

I'm at a couple hundred blues still

stoic fjord
#

I got my entire heishou team up to level 60, most of my sinking team, REAPshu, and just

#

I spent all my blues the second i get them because I have so much shit to level

#

it's absurd

dusty sigil
dusty sigil
#

And 2000+ thread

vagrant dove
#

My blue tickets vanishing into the fucking ether everytime a new canto drops

dusty sigil
vagrant dove
#

Your greed sickens me...

stoic fjord
faint pivot
#

7 envy a-res

dusty sigil
#

God forbid I embody gluttony

vagrant dove
#

I'm chronically low on thread lmao

dusty sigil
#

I’m just a little green

stoic fjord
faint pivot
#

Considering the wide gap between canto 7 and 8...I shutter my heart to evil

stoic fjord
#

true..

#

I only started playing like

#

5 months ago

lean fjord
#

Thread I'm also good with for now, as usual after season reset

stoic fjord
#

...which would mean I've played like 110 hours a month

dusty sigil
stoic fjord
dusty sigil
#

I started in spring cultivation

lean fjord
#

Though I do kinda need to threadspin some more EGO

stoic fjord
#

uptied fucking everything

stoic fjord
faint pivot
faint pivot
stoic fjord
#

someone fucking execute this guy

dusty sigil
stoic fjord
#

I started playing in like

dusty sigil
stoic fjord
#

I think the start of august

stoic fjord
faint pivot
#

I'll
cope by remembering I set up triple status teams!

stoic fjord
#

I'VE MISSED A SINGLE DAILY CYCLE SINCE THE START OF MY PLAYING 😭

faint pivot
#

And cannot sit still when playing mono status

stoic fjord
#

I exhaust all three threadlux bonuses

dusty sigil
stoic fjord
#

every single day

#

I think it's just because I have like

#

3 entire teams complete

faint pivot
#

Magma I think you're an outlier cause you're satisfied with sinking

#

...wait no

#

I set up triple status teams

stoic fjord
#

...4, if you disregard the overlap

dusty sigil
faint pivot
#

Juniper runs MDE dry

stoic fjord
#

yeah okay this is ok for me

faint pivot
#

...Madam I think we're the outliers here-

stoic fjord
#

4 on sinking, 4 on sinking charge, 4 on poise, 4 on bloise, 4 on burn

#

okay yeah maybe we're the weird ones here

dusty sigil
#

Yah you’re a freak

stoic fjord
#

that one I probably have somewhere closer to 7 complete runs

stoic fjord
gentle mulch
#

what's our next bokgak again?

faint pivot
stoic fjord
#

LCB Check-up

#

and then after that nocturnal sweeping

gentle mulch
#

no. i will not see it

dusty sigil
lean fjord
dusty sigil
#

The real question of checkup is ||will we get Shock Centipede or Lantern Hohenheim?||

stoic fjord
#

why the fuck do I have Middle Sinclair at level 60

gentle mulch
#

they're really gonna force us to rewatch the times when things were not as bad

stoic fjord
#

why did I waste tickets there

dusty sigil
#

||Actually what we get both?||

stoic fjord
dusty sigil
#

||since bokgaks are always double banners and idk what else we would get||

lean fjord
stoic fjord
#

alternatively they jumpscare us with Lamp E.G.O ID as one of our seasonals

dusty sigil
#

||did dimensional shredder show up in the checkup?||

#

||I don’t remember that||

gentle mulch
#

oh god hard mode sloth pecca EX Clear

lean fjord
#

The real question is, who gets the Hohenheim ID(s)

gentle mulch
#

Heath

lean fjord
stoic fjord
#

WAIT

faint pivot
gentle mulch
#

i fucking hated that stage

stoic fjord
#

||HOHENHEIM LAMP IS SINKING BURN||

lean fjord
#

I still haven't Ex cleared all the stages in checkup I think

stoic fjord
#

which I think they will keep

lean fjord
#

Should probably go bsck and do that

cloud wadi
#

Will Hohenheim save burn society

dusty sigil
gentle mulch
#

burn society is still at the "please stop praying for my grandpa"

cloud wadi
#

Answer is no

gentle mulch
#

point

#

Firefist office is basically the only one needed to maintain count and then literally whatever else works

cloud wadi
#

“So we are gonna release a really cool thumb Gregor id with low burn count”

stoic fjord
gentle mulch
#

you'll never take my

#

two seconds of dialogue king

stoic fjord
#

okay but pilebunker gun arm Thumb Gregor

gentle mulch
#

if it's not thumb woman i riot

faint pivot
gentle mulch
#

if Gregor's inner package is estrogen I'll.

#

I'll reconsider

stoic fjord
#

like goddamn what was bro channeling to VA Gregor

gentle mulch
#

I really do like how much the VAs pop off

gentle mulch
faint pivot
#

Quality work!

dusty sigil
faint pivot
vagrant dove
#

I have several Don Noises stuck in my head because of how talented her va is

stoic fjord
#

Hong Lu didn't really "pop off" even if I also think it was a super good performance, just because like. I think popping off implies a certain amount of hype whereas with Hong Lu it just hit different

stoic fjord
vagrant dove
tired canyon
#

...wait

stoic fjord
faint pivot
tired canyon
#

we know that if ||you get cut by arayashiki,your wound will never heal

what happens if ryoshu cuts off your hand and you get a prosthetic||

stoic fjord
#

basically every hong lu announcer line

vagrant dove
#

Lord Lu's shout when he breaks free of the cradle in the jia mu fight is so good

dusty sigil
tired canyon
faint pivot
gentle mulch
#

FFOffice Gregor's character has like two seconds of screen time.
You Branch doesn't even get dialogue i think
MBOutis is Walp
I don't think we've met the liu assoc yet
Thumb Soldatos are faceless fodder

Is Lei Heng the only burn unit on my team based on someone with an actual relevance to the plot?

faint pivot
#

Oh wait

#

She says it during her first ||"reunion" with Dihui, after saying she's glad for cutting off her tongue||

#

...hm

gentle mulch
#

oh phew

dusty sigil
#

Alyssa isn’t the most important but she’s there

gentle mulch
#

i forgot ab--and she exploded again

dusty sigil
#

Ehh it was never gonna last long

gentle mulch
dusty sigil
#

if you ask me, all women are relevant #feminist

faint pivot
#

Let her co-I mean let her grow

vagrant dove
stoic fjord
#

okay so I feel like Hong Lu will never like. actually crash out

but I do get the feeling that bro is going to have a moment where he channels this rage into something so very directed and pinpoint that it'll be unnerving

gentle mulch
#

Faust being Don is so adorable

vagrant dove
dusty sigil
stoic fjord
#

Hong Lu's enemy part broken line is so fucking ominous to me

#

like

#

dude you're making me nervous

dusty sigil
vagrant dove
#

Yeah

tired canyon
#

vagueposting is too engrained in his being

vagrant dove
#

Oh and heathcliff-sinclair

faint pivot
stoic fjord
#

I didn't check the Ryoshu announcer before

#

I'm gonna fucking explode

faint pivot
#

"Twist it in. Firmly."

stoic fjord
#

I'm gonna cry and sob and explode

faint pivot
#

||Of course Ryo was the one who made the sausages 😭||

tired canyon
#

||ryoshu doesnt remember araya

none of the experiences they had include her in any way

but she still knows she irreparably lost something vital to her||

vagrant dove
vagrant dove
#

Whoops sorey

#

Spoiled properly, mb

faint pivot
#

Anw yeah ||we reacted the same way when someone shared it here||

faint pivot
tired canyon
#

i was just admiring how cool this fanart was

before i realized

this isnt just cool fanart

this is the EVILEST YI SANG SLANDER EVER CREATED

stoic fjord
gentle mulch
#

MOROS LMAOOOOO

tired canyon
#

"this sinner is gonna set us back 20 levels"

dusty sigil
stoic fjord
#

he'll manifest the wings again in Canto 4 of Purgatorio and aura farm

#

strust

dusty sigil
#

If she’s between the two

tired canyon
#

i mentioned this before but

faint pivot
#

...wait

#

wait wait wait

vagrant dove
#

Yi Sang will merge with Sang Yi and become Every Yi Sang to defeat Wild Hunt Gubo in canto 84 trust

faint pivot
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||THE ROACH EMPEROR IS BOUND BY THE CONTRACT - WE MEET IT NERFED||

tired canyon
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what the fuck is going on with this woman

for her to be between a scion of caine and a ||reality eraser||

tired canyon
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||hermann mentioned that what we fought was "just a another wrapping of her gift"||

dusty sigil
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vagrant dove
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||I don't think it's bound by the contract, mainly because it's not gregor, it's something taking over his body||

dusty sigil
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Yah

vagrant dove
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||Gregor signed that contract, the walking nuke did not||

faint pivot
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That feels...off considering ||her dad was affected||

dusty sigil
dusty sigil
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||Where is it stated papa Quixote was bound by our contract?||

stoic fjord
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||Because of us lowering the average||

tired canyon
stoic fjord
vagrant dove
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||Papa Don is super nerfed because he's been starved and staked to a windmill for 200 years||

mystic ermine
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Somethign is wrong
TKT spoilers

stoic fjord
dusty sigil
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||The contract isn’t related to the people who synchronize with the boughs||

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||it’s only between Dante and the 12 sinners||

faint pivot
tired canyon
vagrant dove
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Ah fair enough, that's memory thing on my end

mystic ermine
tired canyon
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but it doesnt really have anything to do with it being

part of the contract

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its more to do with

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the goilden boiugh being on his chest

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like he has a giant stick on his heart

eternal berry
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||I'm pretty sure the contract evening out all the Sinners and the Golden Boughs consistently being shown as having weakening properties are meant to be relatively distinct||

faint pivot
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Aren't those who signed the contract also arbitrated to be weaker

stoic fjord
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arbitration is the settling of a dispute by a third party officially assigned to settle a disagreement

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so it does have contract vibes to it