Project Moon Games: Lobcorp, Ruina, Etc.

[neat cedar]

There is a reason N sang is the soeed run king

ammo id but the ammo is your allies

[eternal berry]

Just load up enough - yeah, enough “ammo” and go to town

[main scaffold]

I guess the main issue is just keeping the ammo alive long enough for him to get to 7 torn memory

[karmic escarp]

wait
||hoooow am i supposed to beat lucio with 3 dudes when his whole gimmick is 'avoid clashing him with the same person too much'||

[main scaffold]

Or, well, alive long enough for you to use the ego

Christ

[quaint cliff]

Just do it

[karmic escarp]

so true brother

[cosmic gorge]

motherfucker
the violating feeling of ||a parent barging into your room and exercising how this is not your place of safety, that regardless of whatever doors or walls they can Do This to you because they are your parents, is||

[quaint cliff]

Fuck it, we ball

[cosmic gorge]

god

[karmic escarp]

wait actually having a real sinking ID is making this pretty painless so far

[quaint cliff]

It makes me very uncomfortable in a very weird way. I am fortunate enough to have had very great and supportive parents, I’ve been witness to it through my best friend’s family during sleepovers. So while it feels like this isn’t something that should resonate me, but my buddy’s circumstances seem to have left a visceral impression on me all the same which probably just goes to show how damaging this kind of behavior is to young minds regardless of actual proximity.

[eternal berry]

Just eat some unopposed attacks and do some of your own every now and then

[quaint cliff]

I’m glad he got out of that house.

This is getting uncomfortably personal tho ngl so I think I’m gonna stop there for tonight and regret it come morn.

[main scaffold]

...so how does N Ryoshu's really neat trick work again? You use her defend to put her into contempt of gaze and then Target Readjustment Fire turns into the special version?

Rose (It/Its/She/Her) | The Labrynth Doll ↩️

[Reply to:](#1208554035326484531 message) Christ 📎

[cosmic gorge]

this is my experience

[karmic escarp]

well not being able to do anything to help someone youre close with, as you watch them get hurt. it's still something that affects a person

[stoic fjord]

Tbh Limbus gets like that

Shit hits different and makes you really just think

[stoic fjord]

She needs to be at a certain threshold to activate it, but yes

[cosmic gorge]

when i play/run ttrpgs and its past midnight there is a % chance of someone entering my room and making me feel horrible about myself

[stoic fjord]

Also I went back over the ending of Canto 9

Fuck it hits different

Limbus Company is so fucking peak

[quaint cliff]

Never in my life had I felt more unsafe than when we had to relocate to a backyard shed to play D&D and eventually fall asleep there instead of his room. The house was off-limits while his family was like that, and that concept was completely alien to me and deeply upsetting.

[main scaffold]

Looks like it's enemies have +7 gaze or +1 contempt

Madam Poggers (or Juniper) ↩️

[Reply to:](#1208554035326484531 message) She needs to be at a certain threshold to activate it, but yes

[worthy haven]

doing 4-50

I am so

[stoic fjord]

This is way better than classical literature

[worthy haven]

hm

i feel a lot of things

[karmic escarp]

it's so cool that theyre adding flavor text ||to the passives of the enemy like firstly it gives more background and aura, second it forces people to open the passives tab and read, something limbus players desperately need (and dont think this doesnt also include me)||

[worthy haven]

||the oracle huh.....||

[karmic escarp]

||ill have to go back and check ring and pinky since i was too mad to actually do anything more than read the things pertinent to my ass being handed to me||

[worthy haven]

HUH

4-50

[karmic escarp]

||valencina, matthias (in his passives flavor text and implied in one of the scenes with him and ryoshu), and yoru are all disgraced or have lost some previously-held position in some way, and i wonder if that's also the case for callisto and rien. hard to tell with the both of them since all the other ring and index people ive seen are fucking weirdos and ring/index dont seem to have as rigid a hierarchy as the thumb/middle||

[cloud wadi]

he's a ||maestro without a single student aside from Albina||

normally ||Maestro has like an entire group working for him||

[karmic escarp]

||ahhhh||

that makes sense

[cloud wadi]

he's also like ||explicitly uninspired||

||Very technically skilled so he wastes his time working in very tiny intricate details that nobody ever notices||

||but his artwork are just glorified tombstones||

[cosmic gorge]

i havent like, read Leviathan

[cloud wadi]

||not really thought provoking pieces||

[karmic escarp]

||so hes a hack essentially||

[cloud wadi]

yeah

[cosmic gorge]

so i dont have anything to weigh in in comparison to ||Callisto's art pieces||

[cloud wadi]

rien is just rien

[cosmic gorge]

so i don't know if ||his art musings is just Ring weirdness or intentionally sounds like fradulent Bateman talk||

Hip to be Squareshit

[karmic escarp]

||all the ring people talk like their freakshows are the bestest most artistic thing since sliced fucking bread||

[quaint cliff]

||oh it’s absolutely faux-cultured Bateman horseshit||

[cloud wadi]

i wonder if there's like

normal artists

in the ring

if there indeed are such things

Ring's thing is often being superficial if you ask me

[cosmic gorge]

what examples of Art are there in Leviathan anyhow

[cloud wadi]

they are often so focused on Art that they fail to consider different perspectives

[karmic escarp]

compressing people into gemstones

[quaint cliff]

||even when he tried to sound knowledgeable by pointing out how one of his pieces “inspired” by Fauvism (what the City equivalent of that is, I shudder to imagine), he’s basically just admitting that he’s blindly trying to imitate something at a surface level||

[cloud wadi]

when important part of artistry is relating to other people

[karmic escarp]

theres also some regular paintings too

[cosmic gorge]

i can see the grotesque art of gem people at least

[quaint cliff]

I wonder if it’s even possible to be a semi-sympathetic Ring member 😂

[cloud wadi]

jumsoon technically made a regular painting

though

i wouldn't hazard to guess the paint and canvas were made of regular materials

[karmic escarp]

thats true lmao

[cosmic gorge]

wonder if that one tumblr artist who made their fem!Patrick Bateman sinner OC developed the concept

i can see City!Bateman being a Ring stooge

[cloud wadi]

the fucking china was made of human

but yeah ring are so one sidedly focused on their own Art that they fail to consider other perspectives in a way that makes their own Art shallow and superficial

[quaint cliff]

Well we know the Backstreets people under their “protection” are required to submit themselves to artistic evaluations. Maybe there are the occasional normal watercolors and acrylics that scrape by with a passing B- or C+ due to their creativity or technical skill in a medium the Ring is otherwise not fond of

[cosmic gorge]

ring outis' uptie story paints a harsh picture of these evaluations

at least the pointilist sect anyways

[karmic escarp]

||OH MY GOD THEYRE LETTING GREGOR DO SOMETHING||

||BRUTAL||

[dusty sigil]

I did it

Im gonna kill myself

[eternal berry]

There’s some pertinent postscripts

[worthy haven]

ok

4-50

[hybrid lynx]

dante's doing their best

[worthy haven]

||Rien is kinda pretty chill as a final boos I appreciate it||

[karmic escarp]

||GOD HIS VA...||

[worthy haven]

||My biggest issue this canto was Ungeziefer Kaiser|| 4-50

[quaint cliff]

||STUPID IDIOT BABY FAUST||

||HOW DARE YOU CONFIRM YOUR SUSPICIONS||

[cosmic gorge]

heath what is that hammer

[karmic escarp]

||damn this just feels kinda awful.... greg....||

||no.... please dont make me fight the ring guys again please please please please please PLEASE PLEASE PLEASEEEEE||

[worthy haven]

I gotta say

4-50

[tiny cave]

it's about to get worse

[worthy haven]

||it is really funny that Greg and Sinclair got big moments but Rodion doesn't> next canto for sure||

[tiny cave]

||rodion will never get a big moment because she's not special||

[hybrid lynx]

||her not getting a moment would ironically make her special in the worst way||

[cosmic gorge]

||i won't fill up apology forms because I'll never doubt her||

[eternal berry]

This was also the most challenging fight of the Canto for me

[cosmic gorge]

||this is the hype moments canto and whatever deal she has won't be explosive like this||

[eternal berry]

Though I didn’t cut it as close as I’ve heard some people did

[worthy haven]

big reading comphrension check for me lmao

[tiny cave]

i never learned to read either

[eternal berry]

Yeah if you let ||Verg clash those green coins you just get fucking mulched||

[cosmic gorge]

||i trust that she'll have a relevant narrative role eventually but id be annoyed if it was shock and awe like this||

[worthy haven]

yeee

[eternal berry]

I learned that the hard way on my first run

[tiny cave]

the red fraud strikes again

[worthy haven]

I got fucked on my second run by ||him|| having like 100 hp left but then getting ||roaches back||

[eternal berry]

Damn

[worthy haven]

honestly the think fucking me most in that fight was ||the random sinking he can apply which can lead to corrosion xd and me not being able to target the green coins||

[karmic escarp]

||wait wait wait wait||

||so he IS roland for an amazing reason??????||

[eternal berry]

Still can’t believe ||“yeah we helped Verg beat Gregor this Canto”|| are real words now

[dusty sigil]

also ||I WAS RIGHT, HE WAS MEANT TO LOOK AND FIGHT LIKE ROLAND||

[eternal berry]

It happened to you too? Lmao

[dusty sigil]

||HES THE INDEX'S HOME GROWN BLACK SILENCE||

[karmic escarp]

||WUHUHUHH??????????????||

[neat cedar]

how ya feeling hero? ;^)

ah

u got to that part

yeah

yeah

[split beacon]

HERE
WE
GOOO

[eternal berry]

Just soak in it

[split beacon]

this Canto fucked so hard for like

[worthy haven]

YES

[karmic escarp]

THIS SHIT IS CRAZY RAIJIN

[split beacon]

being ABOUT Ryoshu but not confining itself to ONLY doing Ryoshu content.

[neat cedar]

welcome.to Hype Momenrs and Aura

[worthy haven]

that said for the last fight

[split beacon]

it's firing at every, like

[neat cedar]

the Canto

[split beacon]

relevant plot-thread that comes up and ties into what's happening

[neat cedar]

like

[split beacon]

nah nah

this isn't Hype Moments and Aura Canto

[karmic escarp]

DUDE THE MUSIC

[neat cedar]

thus is prob

[worthy haven]

4-50 || I lost the favoured clash against the big furioso|| BUT i still got over the hump

[neat cedar]

the most aelf indulgent PM has ever beeb

[split beacon]

this is Hype Moments and Emotional Payoffs the Canto

[neat cedar]

but it is well deserved

[split beacon]

this is the Chekhov's Gun barrage Canto

[eternal berry]

The production value and OST this Canto goes harder than I thought possible before

[neat cedar]

"We started this company with tooth picks and a failed kickstarter"

[lean fjord]

made it to 9-50

tried once, but stalled out a bit

[neat cedar]

"WE ARE ALLOWD OUR FUCKIN SELF.INDULGENCE"

[worthy haven]

I love love love love the increase of ingame sprites and the battle to have cutscenes

ITS SO SICK

[split beacon]

it's not even THAT self-indugent

like

[neat cedar]

ut's very nice

[split beacon]

all of this stuff was set up

grounded

[neat cedar]

yeah

[split beacon]

prepared in advance

[lean fjord]

gonna try again tomorrow probably

[neat cedar]

that one is tough

[split beacon]

9-50 is like a milling stone of a fight

[neat cedar]

took 2 continues out of me

[split beacon]

it doesn't hit hard

it doesn't come at you fast

[lean fjord]

he's so fucking tanky

[split beacon]

but it GRINDS you down

[lean fjord]

and feels like he takes no damage

[neat cedar]

and then he hits younwuthbthenfunny mive

yeah uh

[worthy haven]

The big thing for 9-50 is that ||you can get so fucked if you lose a 70-30% via the furiosa||

[neat cedar]

he ruckin

[eternal berry]

Understandable, that fight is just a brutal mill. It’s exhausting more so than scary

[split beacon]

it's good though

gives you time to really chew on your thoughts

[lean fjord]

I don't hate it

[karmic escarp]

||it's so insanely funny to see supersinclair and then see that branch of knowledge still fucking sucks||

[lean fjord]

but yeah it is just you both grinding each other down

[neat cedar]

||Hmyou need ti have the right damage tyoes ti clash his moves||

[split beacon]

it's like he's saying

[worthy haven]

for sure. Also am a big fan of the chill ost during it

[split beacon]

Knowledge was no solution

[neat cedar]

hero

[worthy haven]

Also thank the heavens for putting lore and flavour text into skills, statuses etc

[neat cedar]

read his 0assives

and his tags

[neat cedar]

ya know as gool as that is

and itnis cool

[karmic escarp]

||THE DOUBLE EGO CUT IN||

[neat cedar]

i am growing more and more scared of dante

[eternal berry]

Yeah the flavor text is an extremely welcome addition

[worthy haven]

oh ye

[neat cedar]

because this is diagetically.frommdante's oerspevtive

so diagetically

Dante us pulling that information out of people

[cloud wadi]

Sinclair: ||"Anyways Don't worry too much about the second smoke war, it's more or less just like the first one."||

Everyone: "Second what now"

[karmic escarp]

||staring at the 'trench fighting' in sinclair's 3rd skill like it'll kill me if i take my eyes off it||

||THE SECOND???????||

[worthy haven]

4-50 ||It def be crazy how much fucking damage furiosa crescendo does even when you win XD||

[neat cedar]

yeeeeeah

YEAH

[worthy haven]

yeppers

[cloud wadi]

Terminator ||sinclair even kinda looks like Salvador||

[eternal berry]

||Lady Dias is in the kitchen again||

[neat cedar]

my fav thing avoutnthatbpart

||Is that Sinclair still had that fuckij lil soark of petty cruelty innhim||

||"You should have killed me nit fascia!!!"

"Oh, i was just getting to that part "||

[cloud wadi]

||He's still gleefully tearing apart cyborg-distortion alliance||

[worthy haven]

fucking

||colour fixer war vet sinclair was so sick||

ALSO HIS OST

[cloud wadi]

I think ||he didn't even notice that Albina was treating her sword like it was alive||

[neat cedar]

||Techbically, it was||

[worthy haven]

me and my friend were/are duo playing the canto

[neat cedar]

||As it seems she turned like all if her body into her sword, and thennlobotomized herself for good measure||

mood

i had to do the second half

on my own for act 3

and it sucked

[worthy haven]

||and after adultclair dropped the line about him not being from a mirrorworld but from a different branch of the same we straight up argued and talked about it for an hour||

[neat cedar]

not being able to talk to anyone

lmao

[worthy haven]

ye

[lean fjord]

||I think her brain is all that's left of Albina, and not even all of that anymore ||

[worthy haven]

||like legit might be the biggest lore event we had yet in limbus. ALSO||

I did notice

[neat cedar]

||Yerp||

[worthy haven]

||Gesellschaft did not tell Faust what Signs actually do||

[neat cedar]

||And how can one create art if they lack even a sense if their own self||

[worthy haven]

||Since Faust was asking if that is what every sign does which was also false||

[lean fjord]

how effective is Sinking in 9-50?

[neat cedar]

||Likenit really goes to show Callisto specific brand of bad parenting that he just made Albina completely mutilate herself and rhus, her ability to create||

[lean fjord]

feel like keeping his SP down might help

[karmic escarp]

||GREEN???????||

[quaint cliff]

yeah

[lean fjord]

I'd probably need to shard Udjat Outis though

[worthy haven]

I did it with sinking but def be sure to have just like good units as backups

[neat cedar]

|| greeeeeeeeeeeen||

[tiny cave]

problem with sinking is ryo

[worthy haven]

spoiuler

pls spoiler that

[lean fjord]

oh right

[quaint cliff]

It is

[worthy haven]

oh

i insta lcicked then mbmb lmao

[quaint cliff]

You on mobile?

[neat cedar]

mobile discord is funky likenthat

it sucks

[quaint cliff]

Mobile spoilers are fucked yeah

[eternal berry]

Having some Sinking can be useful but yeah Ryoshu can kill the stack

[tiny cave]

you can run like

drifter ryo and spam her guard or something

but ryo has big attack buff for that fight so you kinda want to use her to clash

[worthy haven]

I just did 6 sinking plus reap

and then ||5 sinenrs died to losing the 70-30 on furiosa crescendo||

but still won!

[split beacon]

im gonna be real

[karmic escarp]

||lil bro you look nice with long hair and your bangs pushed back||

[split beacon]

I just ran NShu with Sinking teams

like a few times

[quaint cliff]

for an AMAZING reason

[tiny cave]

nearly all my sinners died

[quaint cliff]

I find it funny that it just does that

[lean fjord]

I may do that

[tiny cave]

||buffclair x sancho fanart inc||

[quaint cliff]

||the Mark demands to be seem||

[quaint cliff]

||I would LOVE to see art of Smoke War 2 Sancho||

[lean fjord]

I think I also didn't ||mess up his Prescripts enough on my first try ||

[split beacon]

||Sancho I am back, and I am handsome now and also my shirt fell open?||

[neat cedar]

||I've seen a bit of that already||

[cloud wadi]

Gregor: "||why the fuck do you look like me"||

[neat cedar]

||Same||

[karmic escarp]

LMAOOOOOOOO

[neat cedar]

||And tgatbis what really kills you in thatnfight||

[split beacon]

he did steal Gregor's ponytail

that's crazy

[karmic escarp]

||YOUR SIGN....||

[quaint cliff]

||You’re a fashion icon now, buddy, get used to it||

[neat cedar]

||Because if hisnksrmic consequence is low u just get fucked||

[split beacon]

get used to it?

||Gregor's been an icon||

[karmic escarp]

||the never even conceived of before this moment singreg stocks rising||

[quaint cliff]

truuuu

[split beacon]

like literally he was famous and on posters

[lean fjord]

||yeah I could pretty much only clash Furioso Replica with highrolling EGO and that's probably what got me||

[neat cedar]

||Greg and Sinclair bith comij g outbof their shells at the same time is def an interesting moment||

||Glorious for one, horrific for the other||

[karmic escarp]

||THE LINE CHAT||

[split beacon]

||can someone make a Gone Angels (Index Ver.) and run it over Rien's fight btw I would chuckle||

[stoic fjord]

||Okay so with the bird on A Certain Sinclair's shoulder and something in his text saying Paratrooper, i forget what. What if the bird transforms and can fly him around. What if part of why he's the Green Deliverance is him dropping from the fucking sky to annihilate people||

[neat cedar]

||Thatbdoes seem to be thebplay yeah||

[split beacon]

||Like replace the piano with distorted synth||

[neat cedar]

. . .

wait

wait

||Is sinclair a nuke?||

||That is prob me over thinking it majorly but||

[cloud wadi]

he's like ||a paratrooper||

[quaint cliff]

||His passives also state that there seem to be a lot of ways people are paratrooper-ing it up||

[split beacon]

||He's apparently part of a unit that teleports in from nowhere and shreds through your lines before vanishing||

[neat cedar]

||Green is radioactive||

[split beacon]

btw

||faction tag for Abraxas Chariot||

[quaint cliff]

||Guerilla warfare is the norm in Smoke War 2, as opposed to the trenches of the first||

[split beacon]

just thought I'd point that out

[quaint cliff]

spoil

[worthy haven]

my goats lmao

[karmic escarp]

||ah man....||

[stoic fjord]

Oh wait yeah nvm ignore what I said lmao

I forgor

[quaint cliff]

||There was something mentioned about the Dimension hoppers too or something like that?||

[split beacon]

the bird is because to be born you must destroy a world, the world is an egg and to hatch it must be destroyed

[quaint cliff]

||Another unit of guerilla fighters who teleport||

[split beacon]

||and door delvers, which makes me think that Wayfarer Corp / Ring Corridor tech is also implicated||

||Can you imagine the guerilla warfare potential of just swoocing on in through some random civvie's closet into enemy territory||

[quaint cliff]

||The symbolism of a bird breaking from its egg is associated with Abraxas in Demian.||

[split beacon]

||yeah p much, that line is part of the whole Abraxas / egg broken theme||

[ebon forge]

you know

i like ||green coins and purple coins|| (full canto)

[quaint cliff]

https://tenor.com/view/daily-dose-piccolo-gif-5084237080757427064

yeah

uh huh

[split beacon]

BOOO

[quaint cliff]

you know what it is

[ebon forge]

||but yeah i think excision coins should be tied to say, sinclair's uptie 5||

[split beacon]

thanks doc

[ebon forge]

||for his personal EGO||

[quaint cliff]

Finally, a use for the damn thing

[ebon forge]

||or special gimmicks, like, imagine a resonance that can convert coins to green for a turn or two||

||or maybe converts unbreakables to green for a turn||

||i think purple would only work as something like a seasonal EGO kinda deal, and only on say, bad end ryoshu's usage of it||

[worthy haven]

9-50 spoiler

[ebon forge]

||should really be avoided at all other costs||

[lean fjord]

||I think Green coins would need to be pretty heavily restricted in access, because they are basically just better red coins ||

[eternal berry]

||Feel kinda bad for Ren now, dude got sentenced to the oblivion blender for not wanting Ryo to obliviate her own kid||

[worthy haven]

ey

||we saved kira||

all is well

[quaint cliff]

where is ||Mayors||

is she safe?

Is she okay?

[ebon forge]

||yeah i like the idea of "awakened" EGOs or SIGN variants of EGOs having these coins||

[worthy haven]

Oh i didnt realize it was a remix??

[ebon forge]

||like, imagine you can "overclock" sinclair's base to get access to it, and it's a pretty expensive version with big drawbacks||

[tiny cave]

||at least they have papa bongy's chicken with them||

[eternal berry]

You can hear it after a little into it

[ebon forge]

whats interesting is that ||araya's EGO is now ryoshu's sheath||

[eternal berry]

It goes hard. Both of the ||Smoke War-related OSTs go impossibly hard; EIM cooked so much this part||

[ebon forge]

i really hope we get base sinners ver 2

[worthy haven]

||WTF DO YOU MEAN THEY CREDITED|| 9-51

||NO BLUE MAN GROUP???||

[eternal berry]

Yeah, pattern ||broke||

[lean fjord]

Also
||the "the daughter is her sword" theories turned out right after all ||

[ebon forge]

||yeah we broke the flow heavily here||

||from malkuth instead of gebura being the centerpoint of reson||

||and so on||

[cosmic gorge]

went to the store to get snacks

[neat cedar]

||KJH rrally said "all.ur.thepries aee wromg, good bye||

[eternal berry]

Although maybe in a certain sense ||it’s not necessary for Demian to make an appearance after what Sinclair did||

[neat cedar]

||I wonder if we'll.get a durante next canto||

also

real question

[eternal berry]

I’m sure when we see him again he’ll have something to say about it

[split beacon]

HEY

DID YOU NOTICE

[neat cedar]

wtf is.the next walpurg gonna.be like

hmm?

[split beacon]

||YOU CAN PICK MALKUTH AS A DURANTE||

||It's not usable but there's lore text||

[neat cedar]

||It's listed, but does it do.anything?||

[quaint cliff]

||u better get dat sheep ready boiiii||

[neat cedar]

||Yeah i'm.onder if we'll actually.like, actualize it.next, or if we'll.get tiph.instead||

||Because narratively, Malluth allows dante to remote access the sinners||

[quaint cliff]

SHEEP CHECK

[neat cedar]

||Which, by the way, is conceptually terrifying||

also

@karmic escarp How ya doing hero?

the hits still.hitting?

[lean fjord]

||I think we'll still go in order, but it's hard to say||

[worthy haven]

HOLY FUCK

EPI

WHAT

[quaint cliff]

u need an epi?

[dusty sigil]

Also chat, ||Araya can come back I believe 100%||

[quaint cliff]

damn, it really IS that peak

[split beacon]

absolutely

[cloud wadi]

Sheathe is the most important part of the sword

but

[quaint cliff]

||she never left||

[cloud wadi]

the hardest murim scene I've read featured a guy throwing aside his sheath

[split beacon]

||As long as her EGO exists, she too must exist in a sense||

[dusty sigil]

||Faust’s and Dante’s conversation at the end, so long as something is remembered it can return, Sinclair unlocking the ability to CALL THINGS THROUGH TIME||

||it’s all set up baby, WERE GETTING HER BACK||

[cloud wadi]

the final battle between him and the heavenly devil at the end of the world

[stoic fjord]

||Also the E.G.O line post-canto||

[cloud wadi]

he draws the sword he has never drawn before

and then throws away the sheathe, because it's no longer needed.

[eternal berry]

Faust just ||kind of says it||, and ||Araya’s not really killable in a conventional sense as long as she’s entangled with something||

[worthy haven]

i got the the epilogue

[cloud wadi]

somehow ||Araya announcer sesems to be aware that this is after leaving the spider's house||

[stoic fjord]

||Overcome the Searing Hellfire for Araya, to Reality's Extinction.||

[karmic escarp]

||in the middle (hehe) of fighting matthias and just read the text where he fucking killed his sister and brother for the sword artifact||

[cloud wadi]

once you actually have her side to side

kid ||Araya and Pinky nursefather actually have pretty similar speech quirks||

both pretty often says "Hey, the way you are doing it is wrong."

[eternal berry]

Probably ||entanglement fuckery||

[split beacon]

Heathcliff Lucio ID btw.

It came to me in a dream

[cloud wadi]

i mean yeah that just makes sense

[quaint cliff]

Anything but Matthias

[split beacon]

no one is getting a Matthias ID.

[quaint cliff]

GOOD

[cloud wadi]

lucio is a stray dog picked up by a person

and got abused constantly all his life

which tracks with heathcliff

[split beacon]

Lucio is a beaten mutt who nonetheless is desperate for the affection of the person who took him out of the rain yeah

[karmic escarp]

||vespa is fucking crazy ||

[quaint cliff]

HEATHCARDO SAVE US

[karmic escarp]

||LAEVATAIN....||

[cloud wadi]

who do you think ||gets to claim Laevatain||

[split beacon]

The Sword That Splits The Sky

[quaint cliff]

If I had actually read his passive lore ||his death would’ve surprised me even more ngl||

[cloud wadi]

also jeez ||dias actually probably made a profit out of this||

[split beacon]

lmao yeah

[quaint cliff]

||since he was wavering on the idea of turning his blades on Valencina||

[split beacon]

The Relic thief..

[stoic fjord]

Welcome back Hindley Rodion

[cloud wadi]

she can't keep getting away with this

[quaint cliff]

oh but she can

and she will

[worthy haven]

OH NO

[quaint cliff]

for some time to come, at least

[karmic escarp]

||all this norse stuff is crazy. valencina has odin's eye, vespa has gungnir (spear of odin). now laev is here too||

[worthy haven]

BAD NEWS

BAD BAD BAD NEWS

AHHHHHHHH

||WITCH HAMMER||

also

||we what happened to gregor for sure gonna be in an intervallo right before next canto||

[ebon forge]

the odyssey in the corner:

[cosmic gorge]

welcome back Hindly ID never

[cloud wadi]

Eventually Zeus’ lightning spear will also turn out to be a relic

[lean fjord]

Wouldn't surprise me tbh

[tiny cave]

hades collab

[karmic escarp]

||ezra died and i lost and i dont know what i did wrong? i literally couldnt clash with him at all||

[cloud wadi]

Take ||some blows for her||

That’s ||what you got those ampules for||

[lean fjord]

||I just ignored Matthias completely and focused on Kira tbh ||

||Maybe I just got lucky, but she won almost every clash for me ||

[cloud wadi]

Yeah that’s luck I think

[stoic fjord]

She didn't win a single clash for me

I just tanked and tanked

[karmic escarp]

||ahhh. they had all gotten eaten earlier... so ill have to play a little more careful||

[cloud wadi]

You do also get extra ego resources I think

So bring some high clash ego

[karmic escarp]

||he also just stopped taking damage for some reason||

[cloud wadi]

Oh

You made it to the bery end then

At that point you just have to stall for 3 turns I think

[lean fjord]

||If he's at around 700 hp, you just need to hold out a little longer ||

|| For Moses to charge up her thing||

[karmic escarp]

damn....

[cloud wadi]

What killed|| me first round was letting bleed count build up on Ezra too much||

So uh watch out for that

[split beacon]

I like btw

||that Matthias says he thinks Shin is a stupid gimmick and he'll just tank with his tattoos, augments, and sheer stubbornness||

||to cover for the fact he's too much of a mess to use Shin||

[cloud wadi]

Lmfao

You need ||belief in a principle to use shin||

He lacks any

[worthy haven]

||So next canto we going german inquisition full force ahead with fucking witch hammer unit||

[lean fjord]

He's such a fucking loser

[cloud wadi]

He was the only ||nursefather I don’t feel bad for at all||

[lean fjord]

How do you ||make it to Great Brother without having any depth or principles ||

[cloud wadi]

Because that’s what the middle is

A friendly facade lacking any and all belief or principle

[worthy haven]

real smooth KJH 😌

[wild mango]

i am stuck on 9-45

[dusty sigil]

Man, fuck Chatroom

[wild mango]

||i know not to let verg clash his unbreakable coins with greg's green coins, but i still take a lot of damage on that turn and die||

||its a really interesting fight but i cant seem to crack it||

[dusty sigil]

||I went into this, thinking Araya would die. I had no hope for her survival before canto 9 dropped, but man, watching it happen still felt like a spiral dagger inching its way towards my heart||

[cloud wadi]

Yeah

[lean fjord]

||Yeah but Matthias isn't even loyal, he just betrays people the moment it benefits him ||

[dusty sigil]

I did ||only clashing with those green coin skills, and having everything else be unopposed||

[cloud wadi]

So do ||the Middle if you ask me||

What would you call their policy on exterminating deserters if not that

[wild mango]

ah

[stoic fjord]

...exterminating deserters?

Like, not cool, but also i wouldn't really call that betrayal

The Middle isn't exactly good

But Matthias was exiled for a reason

[dusty sigil]

||The only time you should clash with a non green skill is when they’re targeting a sinner. Let Verg clash or face tank everything else, he can handle it||

[lean fjord]

I feel like most of the Middle does actually believe in the family thing

[stoic fjord]

They at least have some sort of basis and principle, even if self-serving and exclusionary

[cloud wadi]

They are still people you once called friend and family

[lean fjord]

Doesn't make them good, but Matthias is still an even bigger hypocrite

[stoic fjord]

||Matthias doesn't even have that||

[cloud wadi]

If you turn murderous to them just because they did one thing

[worthy haven]

I think my favourite part tho was

[cloud wadi]

That doesn’t even harm you directly

[worthy haven]

9-50 ||ryo cutting appart the skills and words||

[cloud wadi]

You might as well have never loved them in the first place

[stoic fjord]

Idk maybe this is just pedantic but I just wouldn't really categorize it the same way as Matthias

[neat cedar]

I mean it's basically just

Mattgias is the middle

without all the pretentions

the pure concentrated energy of their worst aspect

[bronze zephyr]

canto 9 part 3
||THE GREEN DAMNATION???????????? THE GREEN DELIVERANCE???????????||

[cloud wadi]

I’m mostly saying that middle don’t really strike me as actually putting all that importance on loyalty and sense of camaraderie

[neat cedar]

other members might be "better"

but the otganization as a whole

[cloud wadi]

They are more concerned with image of that

[stoic fjord]

Okay yeah fair

[neat cedar]

cares a lot less for loyalty abd family

[cloud wadi]

I do have proof of this

[worthy haven]

might be my biggest open mouth moment

it is so great

i did not expect that shit

[neat cedar]

so funny

[cloud wadi]

None of the middle ||we have ever met have lust skills except kira||

[neat cedar]

||and theur main sin color is envy||

[stoic fjord]

Ohhhh yeah true

The closest thing is bleed, which is just the associated status for lust

And not exclusive to it

[neat cedar]

||Envy and Wrath||

||Mattias covets, and consumes and he lashes out||

also

[cloud wadi]

Like middle project an image of a family

But they aren’t actually loyal or consider each other actual family

It’s all empty and superficial

[bronze zephyr]

||THE SECOND SNMOKE WAR...........||

[cloud wadi]

A blood tie that can be broken that easily might as well not exist

[neat cedar]

9- 49 ||someone mentionwd that Ryoshu not considering that araya doesn't have as strong a relationship wuth time as she does is a metaphor for oarenrs who think their childrens exoeruences will.mirror their own||

[cloud wadi]

Yeah

[worthy haven]

||we dont know anything about gregors condition and I am scaared. I was so shocked at him not being avaiilable during the last fight|| 9-51

[cloud wadi]

I’m sure he’s okay

[neat cedar]

||I hated thatbgis symbol was all grody||

[stoic fjord]

||Rodion would be far less cheerful in the credits CG if her buggy situationship was in dire straits still, i think /hj||

[karmic escarp]

||so guess who just remembered fluid sack don exists and that it does 15 sanity damage||

[neat cedar]

||I mean rodion is nothing if not a master of putting in a good face||

[neat cedar]

ayyyye

ye Fluid sack donnis

such a good ego

[dusty sigil]

I mean ||didn’t we see the bugs molt off him at the end? I think he may just still be recovering||

[karmic escarp]

lowkey, naw, HIAGHKEY incredible

[dusty sigil]

||one of those mental wounds Dante can’t heal||

[tiny cave]

9-50 spoilers ||it's not LCB ryo but... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxWxcoLSwBM||

[cloud wadi]

Faust did the equivalent of @ing everyone in discord

[dusty sigil]

Learning ||the gelleshect are petty assholes was the best reveal of the canto btw||

[worthy haven]

I just wanna share how much time me and a friend spent playing this act and discussing......we are not ok

[cloud wadi]

My personal favorite revelations

[worthy haven]

we were

mega discussing (we did take breaks!)

[stoic fjord]

Weak.

(/j)

[quaint cliff]

I did the same strat and had no trouble tbh. Once when I did it the first time, second when I restarted because I didn’t realize how close I was to the end before using Superbia and decided to redo it to get that use back, and three times when I missed a bit of sprite dialogue and had to restart ro catch it.

Worked every time

To the point I thought that was how you were supposed to do it

Just focus ||Kira and let LCD assist defense cover your ass||

[cloud wadi]

||vindication that Middle were hypocrites

index prescript going into panic mode to the point Rien muting his pager||

||terminator sinclair||

Still

Feel bad for Kira

She lost the|| two other apprentices she grew up together with||

Her father ||cut her in half||

[karmic escarp]

||HOLY SHIT MOSES CRATERED HIS CHEST||

[cloud wadi]

And that’s|| not enough for a kill!||

[neat cedar]

||Yeah, moses does not fuck aroun||

[karmic escarp]

||OGH OHHHH FUCK||

[quaint cliff]

really said

[wild mango]

there we go, thanks!

[neat cedar]

||Still love that they had to give him the double tap from god||

[neat cedar]

:^D

[karmic escarp]

||gregor fan trepidatiously approaching node in canto named after gregor's EGO||

[cloud wadi]

||cut his head in half to settle all doubt that he could have survied||

[quaint cliff]

pay attention to your debuffs!

[stoic fjord]

Lowkey, Canto 9 has made me no longer fear "EX Objectives: Clear Stage"

[karmic escarp]

||my greg.....||

[quaint cliff]

And don’t use any continues no matter how much you want to.

[cloud wadi]

Ah

[quaint cliff]

Get dat lunashi

[cloud wadi]

Recommend you bring some uh

Source of fire

[karmic escarp]

my maman didnt raise no bitch im not a continues man

[cloud wadi]

Just one advice

[dusty sigil]

Also Chatroom, I didn’t miss anything, ||Araya wasn’t the original Dihui Star that raised Ryoshu, that was Shiomi, Araya just replaced her after being let out of the safe?||

[quaint cliff]

I went KoDya and Wildcliff

[worthy haven]

||all the homies be using 1 or 2 mang. cant toucht the 5 ring big stick of kong||

[cloud wadi]

||Yes||

[quaint cliff]

it was pain but that’s more on the fight, now them

[worthy haven]

y

[dusty sigil]

Ok sick I’m not crazy, ||this isn’t a grandfather paradox deal||

[cloud wadi]

Apparently araya likes ||aura farming way more than original dihui star||

Though I think|| the ritual of constantly sheathing and unsheathing her sword in battle helps to ground her condition from acting up||

[quaint cliff]

||Ryoshu is already the mother, the daughter, and the painting, no need to make her the self-grandmother-greatgranddaughtergreatgreatgrandmothergre-||

[cloud wadi]

Is araya the ||Three in One||

||mother maiden and crone in one ||

[neat cedar]

||Everyone is an aspect of all the characters||

[neat cedar]

oh, yeah

[worthy haven]

so

||The chance of us allying with nail to stop hammer could be high right?||

[neat cedar]

||Bro i have no fuckin idea||

[quaint cliff]

||God, I still can’t believe everyone was right. Ryoshu is the mother, the daughter, and the painting, Araya is the mother, the daughter, and the sword (sheathe)||

[worthy haven]

fucking kjh name dropping ||witch hammer do be sendin me||

[quaint cliff]

ALL YOUR THEORIES…

[cloud wadi]

Would you rather techno fascists or theo fascists

[neat cedar]

||After this canto, trying to oredict anything feels impossible||

[quaint cliff]

||ARE RIGHT, HELLO||

[worthy haven]

true

[cloud wadi]

I’m guessing we’ll get more hints for meursault canto for intervallo

[neat cedar]

ye

[quaint cliff]

The Sun

[cloud wadi]

But it seems like we are gonna have to fight the State

[worthy haven]

we do be setting up the ||german inquistion||

[quaint cliff]

type shit

[cloud wadi]

We are gonna fight the Distortion wars on the distortions side

[worthy haven]

kjh when he feels smart and changes kramer into kromer smh

[keen palm]

Okay finally through the Canto

[cloud wadi]

Yay

[quaint cliff]

sasuga dogrector

[worthy haven]

lesgo

[lean fjord]

It is pretty clever tbh

[cloud wadi]

I think you got your wish voy

[quaint cliff]

welcome to the club boyo

what wish

[lean fjord]

Since Kromer is just a character from Demian

[worthy haven]

true true

[cloud wadi]

||the index prescripts panicking and flooding Rien’s pager was such a cathartic moment||

[split beacon]

that's not it actually

we know what that is

[tiny cave]

||the crackpot theory is that they were giving him Roland's battle lines, that's why he laughs||

[cloud wadi]

Complete ||and full instructions on what to do in battle?||

[split beacon]

||Rien says if he doesn't fulfill the prescript fast enough or right, the beeper goes off increasingly faster, and his heartrate accelerates as well||

[cloud wadi]

Ah

[worthy haven]

||ALSO. Kira has to make Don into her new example of badass and becoming the one women don fanclub||

[split beacon]

so it IS panicking but it's because ||he's getting his fucking ass beat and he can't do what it's telling him to do anymore||

[neat cedar]

. . .

oh

oh no

[cloud wadi]

Well still that|| means prescripts goals were frustrated no||

[neat cedar]

oh no

[split beacon]

oh absolutely

[neat cedar]

oh no

[worthy haven]

RIGHT!

hehehehee

[karmic escarp]

oh

[quaint cliff]

btw remind me, did ||der Kaiser have a healing ability?||

[cloud wadi]

Or maybe ||she becomes a Vespa fan?||

[neat cedar]

||Is Vira going to be Don's first kindred||

[stoic fjord]

This would spawn an incredible amount of yuri i think

[quaint cliff]

I am fairly certain I saw him jump up to full health before I rage-restarted once

[worthy haven]

could also be

omg

[dusty sigil]

What’d yah think?

[karmic escarp]

||oh||

[neat cedar]

good not recall

[split beacon]

lock in hero

[neat cedar]

yweeeeeeah

[cloud wadi]

I like how ||Don immediately starts trying to chat Vespa up about marketable goods bearing his image||

[worthy haven]

||she could bicker with aeng-du||

[split beacon]

she'll join the Blade Lineage.

[worthy haven]

I will say

I am deeply dissapointed

[split beacon]

wanderer blade fiends with nowhere to call home

[worthy haven]

||That they made Ungeziefer Kaiser into The Roach Emperor||

[karmic escarp]

||OH MY GOD.....||

[cloud wadi]

Maybe Kim ||would benefit from the opportunity to give a lost wanderer betrayed by her own family purpose, direction, and discipline||

[worthy haven]

a travesty!

[quaint cliff]

||As opposed to what, the Pest King?||

[bronze zephyr]

just finished 9-43, im not normal not in the slightest

[cloud wadi]

That’s the Emperor ||of Vermins no||

[worthy haven]

||No i mean just like use ungeziefer kaiser as the enemy name aswell||

[quaint cliff]

Oh

Yeah

[neat cedar]

||I think that they're actually two different things||

||Tbh||

[worthy haven]

I think that would have been way cooler

oh huh

[quaint cliff]

Force these Limbabs to learn how to pronounce German

[worthy haven]

i guess

[cloud wadi]

I couldn’t really understand what Gregor ||was trying to tell me as I was beating the shit out of him||

[neat cedar]

||like, i think that Gregor is the roach emperor||

[cloud wadi]

It was really muffled

[stoic fjord]

||Lowkey I agree, especially with what Hermann says||

[neat cedar]

|| And thr kaiser was speaking through him||

[worthy haven]

ohh that could be

[quaint cliff]

||It’s oon-gets-eefer, btw, as I just learned||

[lean fjord]

Roughly, yeah

[cloud wadi]

Have we tried shooting him with a supersoaker filled with soapy water

[karmic escarp]

||good heavens||

[neat cedar]

||because whatever the fuck G corp is doing, it's in some elder god/ancient demon shit||

[cloud wadi]

That should instantly kill him

[worthy haven]

ok i am conviced

[quaint cliff]

||swat the bug down and get our boy back||

[karmic escarp]

||THEY PUT THE FUCKING GREAT OLD ONE OF INSECTS IN MY MAN LIKE WHAT DO I EVEN SAY||

[lean fjord]

All these revelations also make whatever is coming in June even more concerning

[stoic fjord]

Battle spoilers, don't click ||"swat" as if he did not get Vergilius down to half health when I fought him. Bro was swatting me 😭||

[quaint cliff]

||17 health for me ||

[karmic escarp]

||GREEN??????||

[quaint cliff]

||he did gain self heal on his attacks that last turn, but frankly I don’t think it would’ve saved him with all the roach stacks||

[cloud wadi]

Oh yeah

[quaint cliff]

hit that

[stoic fjord]

||and allegedly this is just another layer of wrapping paper, even if a little fancier||

[cloud wadi]

Don’t let ||Vergil and his red coins clash with those||

[quaint cliff]

NOT WITH ||VERG||

[stoic fjord]

||inb4 next time this happens the level reads as question marks||

[cloud wadi]

The ||green coins go nom on red coins to become stronger||

[stoic fjord]

||The Roach King - Lvl. ?????||

[cloud wadi]

If you see green coins, ||you should consider it like a stop sign saying you should stop red coins from hitting it||

So when you see green coins, think of a stop sign, but green

[worthy haven]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZK7yzcQiXKA like the part starting at 1:00 might be my favourite theme in this canto

and its tough cause these osts sheesh

when that lalala hits

[neat cedar]

can i also say

that uh

||The o yl reasin we syrvive the gregor fight||

||Is vergil's shields, becayse the oests in the air are eating us alive||

[karmic escarp]

||DDDDDDDDD:||

[cloud wadi]

He’s fine

He’s the very picture of mental health

[karmic escarp]

||holy shit he's giving verg a run for his money||

[neat cedar]

||He'a doing more than that he is dogwalking him||

[cloud wadi]

||he legit would have killed Vergil if it was a 1v1||

I think

It kinda ||shows that we haven’t even glimpsed the top of the pyramid you can climb in terms of power in the City||

If that was horrifying

[neat cedar]

||10000%||

[cloud wadi]

||imagine what kind of secret weapon N corp got locked away in a basement||

The wings ||truly rule the city||

[split beacon]

That boy ||Sinclair|| can break the unbreakable and row row fight the power? I better keep my ass in La Manchaland, or I'm finished‼️

[cloud wadi]

Even ||color fixers are just particularly annoying vermin||

[keen palm]

I can't believe the final boss was the easiest one in the canto for me

[split beacon]

damn

that is not how it went down for me

[karmic escarp]

||fuck, second fail. not sure what im doing wrong, im letting verg soak as much of the aggro as possible||

||the ampules just disappeared at some point, didnt even notice that theyd gone||

[keen palm]

||You have to make sure you are clashing the Gluttony skills that break unbreakable coins||

[karmic escarp]

||with my guys and not verg...?||

wait i did NOT read what that skill does correctly the first time around \

i trust you

[neat cedar]

mood

yeah uh

||You are protecting verg in this fight||

[ebon forge]

ngl

of the nursefathers

i really like val

[tiny cave]

||The Red Fraud needs two randoms to take hits for him or he’s COOKED||

[ebon forge]

as a character, she's incredibly toxic, but i feel like it'd a lot deeper than just being a bad person

[split beacon]

||tbh the randoms are also bundles of liability holding the Emperor of Vermin back||

cute how that theme also got repeated

[tiny cave]

Unlike The Yellow Chad who can solo

[split beacon]

uh

[dusty sigil]

Man chat, ||it’s insane how Rodya had one look into Gregor’s eyes and knew he was still in there||

[tiny cave]

And the Green Chad who also solos

[split beacon]

I fucking doubt it

[ebon forge]

harpoon would actually fucking die against him

[dusty sigil]

||They’re so in love it’s crazy||

[ebon forge]

verg wins every single clash

[tiny cave]

Harpoon has like no unbreakables

Same with ||buffclair||

[ebon forge]

ignoring unbreakables

[split beacon]

||yeah but could he clash Go For The Heart and avoid the insta kill||

[ebon forge]

mmm

[split beacon]

||Which takes Verg using his EGO and everything he's got||

[tiny cave]

I think his gungnir skill rolls a 50?

[ebon forge]

lemme check

[split beacon]

||67 on Go For The Heart, so||

[tiny cave]

Don’t remember what ||verg rolls||

[split beacon]

||Exactly 68 with Funeral For A Dead Bloodfiend||

[neat cedar]

yeah like, diagetically

[cloud wadi]

She still has some twisted sense of affection for Ryoshu

[neat cedar]

||Verg is exactly good enough and has the skillset to actually survive this fight||

[cloud wadi]

It’s twisted ||but real, unlike Matthias’ superficial affection||

[neat cedar]

||Vespa and sinclair woudl die tot he harmful pest stacks||

||because neither have shielding||

[ebon forge]

||and lucio||

[tiny cave]

hot woman privilege

[tiny cave]

Isn’t that max 50

[neat cedar]

||it does stack X some value dmg per turn||

[ebon forge]

ironically, id prefer the ring nf over her

[neat cedar]

||like if not for the shielding, youd'die instantly, becausse i saw like 200+ dmg values at some point when the combat start happens||

||Verg's consistent shielding is the only reason they survive the encounter||

[karmic escarp]

||i did it..... greg.......||

||GOOD FUCKING GOD.....||

[neat cedar]

YEEEEEEERP

[karmic escarp]

||this is hurting roaches btw. max damage of like 600||

[neat cedar]

i had to legitmately

take like an hour

after that fight

to destress

yeeeeeerp

oh

[karmic escarp]

||his glasses were gone... like man.... MAN......||

[neat cedar]

||*OH THEY LOWERED MAX HP||

||NO yeah, vespa and buffclair would get so fuckin mulched||

[ebon forge]

yeah lmao

||verg is actually fucking strong ngl||

||the only difference being he specializes in extended group combat, aka war||

[neat cedar]

oh yeah

with current revelations, a thought occurs

9-45 ||Gregor's sister . . . . is prob going to be something similar, isn't she||

[split beacon]

chat room

I thought all the Canto 9 suckerpunches were dealt out

but no

[neat cedar]

oh?

[split beacon]

There's more.
9-50.

[neat cedar]

ah

yeah

*yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeah

[split beacon]

https://tenor.com/bjydm.gif

[minor gust]

is li mbus on maintenancce

[split beacon]

Middle Nursefather content

[minor gust]

i cant access styuff

[karmic escarp]

||she could be the queen....||

im on 48 now ||and it's shaping up to be that what we think is the star is actually araya. im like 90% certain at this point||

[neat cedar]

I will say

my favorite part about this canto as an adpatation of hell screen

is how they managed to effectively like. . . implement the theming of an unrelaible narration and picking that apart

in a game format

like you can have a very different perspective on every character if you simply just never read their flavor text

never look deep than the surface

but the moment you do read deeper, it completely shifts your perspective on everything

[karmic escarp]

||right like i was like 'matt seems pretty chill beyond all his usual middle-isms' and itd proably seem pretty out of nowhere for him to use kira as a distraction and then cut through her, but knowing what he did to his bro and sis it just. makes sense immediately. ||

||ok so theres no way shes not araya||

[neat cedar]

||yeeeeerp||

[karmic escarp]

||the INSTANT i saw the blue streaks in 'yoru's' hair i was like 'uh oh. oh god oh no.'||

[minor gust]

can anyone help me?

i keep tryin to acess literally any part and this shows up

[neat cedar]

i mean, have u updated the game?

[minor gust]

yes

[neat cedar]

hmmm

[minor gust]

its downkloaded and everything

[neat cedar]

if u haven't already douvle checked might try restarting ur machine see if that helps

and if all else faulsmmight need to redownload

[minor gust]

hmmm let me restart pc

[keen palm]

One thing I still don't get is if Ryoshu has bloodfiend powers or not

[lean fjord]

She doesn't

[karmic escarp]

||and that is absolutely there to spell it out for the people who cant read!||

[split beacon]

they're just regular combat augs for your eyes

[lean fjord]

Yeah

[keen palm]

Okay except she's a clone of someone with natural red eyes that are tied to her Time powers

[lean fjord]

IIRC its mentioned at one point they're pretty common?

[split beacon]

no

[keen palm]

yes

[split beacon]

the red eyes aren't natural for either of them

[keen palm]

Well we don't know that for Pinky

[minor gust]

restarted still the same

dammit ill have to redownloaf

[split beacon]

I mean, okay, technically true but more to the point we know for an absolute fact that Ryoshu's red eyes are from combat augmentation

[neat cedar]

yeah, i think there was perhaps

a bit of funkiness

[ebon forge]

What does reading time mean

[neat cedar]

about between the writing team

and thebart team

[neat cedar]

||She can see the flow, it seems||

[split beacon]

it's how long it takes you to read the VN portions of the story

:^)

[keen palm]

Yes but she got the combat augs specifically because they were the one thing changed so that she wasn't a perfect clone of her mother

[split beacon]

what

[keen palm]

Yeah

[split beacon]

||Dihui Star straight up says "now she looks even more like me" in that story segment||

[keen palm]

Yes

[neat cedar]

||But aside from that we don't know for certain aside from her knowing the exact time in the t corp and her hvlaving a blast in w. corp id||

But yeah, as far as Ryoshu's red eyes go

[keen palm]

But like, there's weird time powers with Ryoshu's blood and she was the only one to insinuate that the Sweepers might have a connection to Don Quixote

[neat cedar]

i'll just label that under either "oitential mistake innwriting"

[keen palm]

and her power stems from someone with red eyes

[neat cedar]

or "detail for the future"

i won't full rule it out

but i'm inclined to believe no bloodfiend association

[split beacon]

||I mean, possible I guess that she's some kind of weird Bloodfiend descendant? But the read I got is that she's just got an unusual ability relevant to martial arts that her mom also had and so did her daughter because it's heritable, and she's got it the best of any of them||

[karmic escarp]

||oh that bit from tkt..... so that was... something with significance to it.......||

[split beacon]

yeah

[neat cedar]

||Yeeerp||

[keen palm]

Martial arts?

[ebon forge]

I wonder how augs work in relation to your capability to grow in strength

[neat cedar]

||She prob would be cimpletely fine taking the W. train the long way too||

[split beacon]

I mean yeah

||you seem to need that ability to use the crazy ass time-slicing sword and do wicked teleporting moves||

[keen palm]

Ryoshu explicitly wanted to ride the W Train the long way

she was audibly disappointed she couldn't

[split beacon]

you know in retrospect I wonder if she said anything funny during MotWE that we can read deeper into now

[neat cedar]

||Yeah like Ryoshu seemed to be able to not just see Araya as she was now, but how she would grow up tooo||

[keen palm]

That's not Ryoshu, that was everyone

because of her fucked up Entaglment

[split beacon]

yeah that was Actually Happening I'm fairly sure

[neat cedar]

||No i mean in the cutacene||

[keen palm]

yes in the cutscene

that was diagetic

[neat cedar]

||When she's thinking abiut escaping||

[keen palm]

everyone was seeing that

[neat cedar]

||This is before the reveal||

[split beacon]

oh I just thought that was an imagine spot lol

[neat cedar]

same

but i think it was like

might have been actually a thing she could see

[split beacon]

||but I guess Ryoshu's abilities might let her visualize how someone will grow up???||

[neat cedar]

considering some of the sruff discussed in this canto

[split beacon]

||in which case, I wonder what she sees in Sinclair||

[keen palm]

This also means that Ryoshu could like sinclair because she sees hes gonna be a baddie later

[split beacon]

Same brain

[neat cedar]

potentially

[keen palm]

Also

[karmic escarp]

........

[neat cedar]

||YERP||

[keen palm]

I do feel this confirms Sinclair is like 17-18

[neat cedar]

?

[keen palm]

And maybe younger

[neat cedar]

i don't see ur reasoning

[split beacon]

everyone else: weird little twink
Ryoshu: G.U.I.A.H.

[neat cedar]

just because he had a growth spurt?

[keen palm]

People dont get growth spurts in their 20s

[split beacon]

yeah they do

[neat cedar]

din't typicallt

[split beacon]

it's less common but it happens

[neat cedar]

but it does happen

late bloomer is a term for a reason

[karmic escarp]

surely ill get a growth spurt when my birthday rolls around....

(he said, like he isnt turning 25)

[split beacon]

and tropes wise

it would be weird if Sinclair wasn't a late bloomer

[neat cedar]

And sinclair's entire bit is some kind of arrested developmenr angle

ye

[split beacon]

that boy is late to growing up but he's growing up STRONG

[keen palm]

Also I do enjoy Dante saying

[neat cedar]

||The Green Decimation or the Green Deliverance||

||A savior or a terror, beyond two worlds . . .||

[keen palm]

"While metaphysically Ryoshu has severed the chain that binds our souls together, legally she is still my employee so lets uh,
Let's go guys."

[neat cedar]

||I said, i say get your ass baxk over here ryoshu||

||"You xalled us friends, you don't get to walk away that easily"||

[split beacon]

when we take the Sinclair out of the environment that's stunting his growth, voila, suddenly he's a grown man

[neat cedar]

also

i have said it beforr

but i will say it again

9-49 ||I CANT BELIEVE ALL OF RHIS WAS JUST TO MAKE HER A MORE CONVIENT PAPER SHREDDER||

[split beacon]

||also to take the Fingers's shames and failures, ball 'em up, and send them straight to a Hell that has no escape||

[neat cedar]

||Not a cool assassin, not a peerless warrior, but a hole they cannthrow anything they didn't like||

[split beacon]

9-43 ||you reckon Kromer would be sad "her" Sinclair is an obsolete model, or excited that there's even shinier, more efficiently prosthesis-wearer-murdering Sinclairs to get her hands on||

[neat cedar]

||It was a problem that was designed to tkae care ofnitself . . . buy now that it hasn't||

[keen palm]

She would bust

[split beacon]

oh it's all over the keyboard and the screen

that's not in question

[karmic escarp]

||ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh||

||IS THTA THE SONG IN THE BG......||

[split beacon]

I like btw

[karmic escarp]

||PURPLE???????||

[split beacon]

that this encounter answers the natural question very simply

Q: ||"why hasn't Ryoshu Distorted yet if she's gone so utterly mad?"||
A: ||"she's hanging on by a single thread"||

SP: -44 on a 45 to -45 scale

exactly one point shy

[karmic escarp]

||miss a forest for the trees...||

[minor gust]

i redownloaded it and this shows up

how do i iask for a bug report?

[karmic escarp]

||OH SHIT||

||OH OH MY GOD||

[split beacon]

might be your ISP

[minor gust]

isp?

[split beacon]

Internet Service Provider

[minor gust]

mty net is p stable

[bronze zephyr]

||does anyone have advice for ryoshu vs "araya"? my friend is fighting her w NShu and dies in the duel phase||

[keen palm]

Uhhh

I just win rated with some egos

What id are they using

[split beacon]

it's not about your internet being stable, it's that the people running your internet might be blocking certain requests that Limbus Company needs to make to communicate properly with the PJM server

idk I would consider restarting your router or something

[bronze zephyr]

Nshu

[split beacon]

and?

[bronze zephyr]

both red eyes, forest flames, and contempt

[keen palm]

Huh

[split beacon]

I'd probably use an EGO to become Envy resistant

[keen palm]

Idk then

[minor gust]

hmm my friend cant play on mobile either

were both on php separate regiopns

different isp

[split beacon]

strange

maybe cloudflare shit the bed again

[ebon forge]

Wife, clearly

[split beacon]

chat

9-51 spoilers
||WHAT DO YOU MEAN PABLO LEFT GREGOR NO||

||YOU CAN'T DO HIM LIKE THIS DIRECTOR I CAN'T TAKE IT||

[karmic escarp]

||BRO....... i teared up a little ngl.............||

[keen palm]

That isnt Gregor

[split beacon]

I know

look on his shoulder though

[keen palm]

I am

I dont see anything

Oh wait

Is that Pablo? I thought it was one of hoenheins plugs

[split beacon]

||it's Gregor's little buggy buddy Pablo...||

[ebon forge]

Sixgooooood

Fuck I need to get myself a custom bjd

[mint cliff]

Boy the Bad End ID for this Canto is gonna be something alright

[split beacon]

9-51: funny how in the end ||Poland was exactly what everyone saw at first glance because there's literally nothing more to him||

||he is literally nothing but an appearance. an empty shell, devoid of anything meaningful inside||