#Project Moon Games: Lobcorp, Ruina, Etc.
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Phillip wasn’t stable enough because his conviction wasn’t absolute, yes
He was still a coward and he knew deep down that his bravery was a facade, if he had doubled down and said “even if it’s a facade I’ll keep going, even if I’m afraid right now I’ll face this despite being afraid” he would’ve gained a true EGO
https://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/project-moon-thread.111168/post-37307852
Interesting idea
Restoring memories undoes the permanent wounding effect
boy aren't you gonna look silly when part 3 drops and we flash back to the 'index nursefather' UI to prove the unreliable narrator theory true, also dante is ayin and the cake is the monkey
Yeah we talked fairly extensively in Canto 7 about the methods within the City of removing memories for...
real bravery type shit
It’s possible that restoring the memories undermines the blade’s properties sure
It’s not about doing it cuz you’re not afraid anymore
Bravery is doing it scared
tbf
he also got hit by the fuckin
evil clown man debuff
airing out all his dirty laundry in his face
how do you build Xiao
so the obvious one is you make her a big burn build
that's probably what I wanna go for
another option is to just use her for Smoke, and deal Burn through passives and use her for her unique EGO pages
I'm confident enough in the keypages, I just want better combat cards
I think you're a bit too heavy on the high cost cards for how much econ you have there
gotcha
what's a good xiao burn build?
Unironically, I’d say get rid of one of the frontal assaults and replace it with a will of the prescript
You don’t have to commit to singleton
But like, if you already have all but 1 single card
Might as well add in a will of the prescript
Also replace the other frontal assault with multislash
Because at that point, might also grab that
how's this look?

The fuck the head doing in my youtube
The beholders have not been doing well recently
Enkephalin shortages really be hitting hard since L Corp fell I guess
won against Ozma
funny idea
he do be tweaking a bit
Utv?
Uptie 5
ok so uh
I forgot how to do woodsman
and so it kicked my ass
and thus I will be doing this another time
I'm ngl I think a single attempt at Price of Silence just gave me a migrane
I was feeling okay
As soon as I lost Price of Silence suppression my head started throbbing with pain
Oof
P > reassign the skills that are smelly and don’t use Silence or whatever the funny card is
What does P do?
Auto assigns clashes
It’s very bad in LoR but it saves you time churning out pages when you’re on the clock
Winrate
enters rose hunter fight
loses literally every single one of my clashes
i smile
i press skip
Skip?
Part 3 needs to come faster
Skiplux
Oh
Destroy half opponent health
the pain of not being able to ut 4 when you missing 5 shards
LET ME INNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN
Chat, I know that it’ll be Meursault
But I saw an Ishmael Vespa ID and I really like that idea
From @ dearpupa (she does NSFW btw)
Price is mostly about killing the guys faster than they spawn in
I mean he is called the Yellow Harpoon now
That's the problem
They don't die quick enough
Ishmael Upscale
Completing all the realizations is going to make me go insane
Price of Silence and Judgement Bird both make me want to commit a crime
Like
Xiao was frustrating because she's just difficult, and that's ok
Whereas I genuinely don't even know how to approach the other two
And also because I could use Myongest Gebura for Xiao
Kill bill ryoshu
It’s simple to accept the Index. However, an Ego must come from the depth of your own heart, not from an external source. So it should be impossible for an egotist to be an index proxy yet
@hyojin_en
From Carmen’s description, to be an egotist and an index proxy
Your mind must be so insane
That your thoughts and index’ Will must be one and the same
Sora is probably top 3 most deranged people in the City
So Sora is basically a personification of the Will of the Prescript
Which is why Don in her uptie often wants to do what her prescripts tell her to do before she gets it
And is frustrated by the delay
I gotta wonder if the prescripts ever just tell someone shit like, “flirt with the girl you have a huge crush on” and they just get to live a happy life (until their brutal murder 37 days later or something)
||damn Vespa got tits||

“I got a prescript to deny everything said if I heard a woman’s voice in my head”
apparently there's a prescript beeper
I gotta get back to working on the limbus rpg
You should add the prescript buzzer for a huge SP boost
Now that like every major faction has a passive
I could make a catalog of passive terms for them
PRESCRIPT IS CALLING. . .
Okay thinking about Rien some more
I think his wordplay gimmick is a lot more important than we realize
- he seems to understand language as a weapon as well as a tool for getting what you want, which is important considering his job is to interpret and carry out Prescripts, implying he’s a master at twisting the language of the Prescript to his benefit (and that’s why he’s the scariest Index agent we’ve seen)
- Gebura’s Courage is coming up and Gebura is the Sefira of what floor again?
The second bleed floor
So, mountain of smiling bodies seems like it requires sustains to fight. That's a lotta damage
yeah you want healing
oh also why the fuck ain't Rien got an Index cloak
not even a short one like a Proselyte
he has his own proxy is something someone brought up
my crack theory is that he gets the prescripts, he sends a different prescript to the pager that just works out
to fulfill the first prescript and something something for himself
I guess it would answer what the Proxy is a proxy of
[][][] apparently
i doubt my theory holds any water but I'll have conviction in it anyways because it's gonna happen
||AHHHHHHH\HHHHHHH||
I am terrified of the next fights in star of teh city
Gotta do kalo, lowell, then I'll be done with that roll
Gotta figure out how to beat night awls
Hey wait a fuckin second
||Why does it say Index nursefather||
300 lunacy here we come
:D
I love my lunacy how I like my sleep
plenty and longlasting
That is also why I have 71 Lunacy left
Index targeting will be really funny in tabletop
Oh that’s rad
You’re just playing Fabula ultima now
Roll a dice, target 1 player
Everyone goes to kick their ass
Man Don really does not have good egos for the index id
I gotta craft fluid sac don version for her
||Like HEY. THEY'RE SELF CLEANIN--ah. prithee.||
Yeah I suspect ||bloodfiends just have self cleaning ability too||
Just roll blood over their body to remove grime and dirt
And blood can just be absorbed through their skin
I’m getting the impression
That Nursefathers are|| also taking on the role of Yoshihide in the original work||
As a ||father figure who’s villainized by the narrative, wanting his daughter back||
There’s actual evidence for this
||Yoshihide is working for Lord Horikawa. It’s implied that LCA knew and allowed the attack on LCE to happen||
It’s possible that ||LCA and Nursefathers have some kind of deal||
Especially since ||Nursefathers somehow know how to use Wayfare Corp tech||
Something we know ||From Saude that only a few people do||
||udjat Outis suggests a prescript told them how, but we also saw Thumb nursefather operate it||
||Hmmm, in which case, then Sora being the Owl would fit perfectly||
I think ||Hohenheim is the owl||
Yeah, that also tracks
But tracks best if you assume ||Iori will make an appearance||
Makes sense though, given Leviathan
I think ||Ring nursefather is gonna let him peck at Albina for artistic purposes||
||Same||
||Tbh though Hoheiheim is awfully tame of a person, normally||
||Shock centipede is about survival, and his distortion…||
Iori is the only one who really fits the bill for the initial reason Valencia was even able to show up
mmm
Someone from Vergilius past that would attack him or he would attack on sight and be able to significantly wound him without dying
Like thats One Person we know of
||we haven't heard anything from the bozo trio since the intro. Wolf and co||
Vergil was notably ||wounded/tired from a limbus company operation before meeting by valencina||
A noted direct competitor to limbus company that can pose a threat to a color would be, yes
||Iori||
It wasnt the operation
It was after
Hmm
Then yeah definitely
||having iori fight Hohenheim though would be like having doomguy fight a coughing baby though||
It’s possible she ||might yoink the apprentices for herself||
Heaven knows she knows literally all the sword techniques
And once ||nursefathers are dead they’ll be looking for a new teacher so||
And honestly ||she’ll probably a far better teacher than nursefathers ||
||I would take most of the apprentices in if I was at that level||
||who could resist||
every time ricardo substitutes in the EDM gets louder
9-36 spoilers
+2
+2
peak
Woe more index be upon thee
Did an ID teaser drop?
Dont thiink so
huh, fuckin, No Banner Bwednesday I guess
Yeah
We should get a new teaser Tuesday though
I just already know
In my heart
It’ll be the index nursefather
watch it be someone else and then we get a double banner of two nursefather IDs
like "fuck the Lunacy strategic reserve dump all that shit RIGHT NOW"
The don id made me crack and pull 
Xish
okay it's the same pattern, two weekly story banners, a break week while part 3 comes out, then another story banner
if it follows the same pattern as last time it's gonna be-
semi-obvious pick for a solo banner
twist pick, duo banner
some asshole that looked like they would never get an ID, solo banner
Firefist raaaaa
Would you believe
mr "im gonna crashout and die taking all my foes down to hell with me" ends up living
At bloodsalt's expense
my candidates are
- Index Nursefather Yi Sang
- Thumb Apprentice Sinclair and Thumb Nursefather Rodion
- Surprise! LCE EGO:: Lamp and Diffraction Gregor
or wait Sinclair has a Thumb ID and it wouldn't be a twist for the Thumb to have the twist pick duo banner twice
- Pinky Apprentice Hong Lu and Pinky Nursefather Ishmael (born to be free, miserably chained down)
Oh also on the wishlist
RAVI GREGOR ID
Pride ego for don
MAKE IT HAPPEN
we already have the Ravi ID
LCE INTERN GREGORRRRRR
That’s marton
Ravi ||is the clerk who got his face caved in||
||and bisected by sora lol||
head obliterated
anyways, I think it would be mad fucking funny to get a story ID and it's Locked In ||Hohenheim||
"get fucked, LCE checkup rerun ID never"
LCE Clerk :: Dimension Shredder E.G.O. :: Yi Sang
though I do wonder what we'll get for that
my wishlist for that is like
more ardor blossom ego
"fuck you and your bokgak"
gee yisang how come you get two Pride ego ids
and maybe ebony thorn ego id
FUCK your bokgak, we slinging crossbow bolts in this mf
He did score number one in the sinner power rankings :)
ebony thorn ego id would go hard
EBONY STEM OUTIS LCE EGO GEARRRR
we straight up firing ballistae
We're smoking the shit that bombed faelantern
no yeah that's like, actually going to come to pass
ADD RUPTURE TO HONG LU
LCE EGO:: Dimension Shredder Outis
sounds about right
it'll be outis, she has the most advanced Dimension Shredder
and is, you know
the wanderer
hey wait how come Outis gets to have two charge ids that synergize with dimensional shredder
whats the other one
w corp
i only know wcorp
because Dim Shred is like completely 1:1 with her gimmick
wcorp and what
of being a lost wanderer who cannot return home
if she gets dimensional shredder ego id
oh i see
I wish it was canon. I wish so badly that we get after the canto an offhand mention lei heng taught her to make pizza
lei heng the home economics teacher
lei heng corporate law teacher
I could absolutely see Outis hitting that High Speed Rip Space
Mine is burn and index
in the Dimension Shredder EGO gear
Lei heng: Yoshihide, that's not how you carry a kid
Yoshihide, here's how to ration your savings
Here's how to not get ripped off when going shopping
||Iori and Dias fighting to take in the skilled and impressionable teenagers looking for a parental figure after the deaths of the nursefathers||
Lei Heng: Put all your Ahn into Arbitercoin
The wiring and piping here suck. Here's who to call. Don't try to fix a house's power network yourself
A big mom even
A big mom, even
Everyone who pretends to be nice is an abusive PoS
Everyone who pretends to be a hardass is a big softie (Salvadore, Yuna, Xiao, Ricardo, etc.)
🚬 Yoshihide, if you really wanted to save money... YA SHOULDA DARN SMOKED THE CIGS ON SALE
What about Kali/Gebura
Valencina Rodya 🙏
Kali pretends to be a hardass but is a big softie to Chesshead
A big mom, even
There's a comic dub I lost where a couples competition has cigs in the prize, so ryoshu drags hong lu and ferociously does couple activities to win
"Uwahh~ my grandma used to force me to duel in burning buildings as part of my daily sets of ten!"
dueling in burning buildings is cool
trueee
things you never wanna hear in The City: I have a plan
Outis would send you Reddit Cares notifs for this
- wtf is Reddit Cares
- im soe fuckun dorry outis
It’s Reddit’s cma for cyber bullying, you can tell Reddit someone is suicidal and they’ll send a heartfelt message saying “no pls don’t kys” to the person you reported
im sor fuckun dorry outis
lowkey, with Vergilius with us, this could work
the way she coughs after smoking the cigar
I need this immediately
i can see redditor faust
outis seems like idk a user of an older program
i want more sprites with some goofy ass character flair like caposault chainsmoking in every skill use
Outis just uses the old layout of reddit that they have available
Outis gets into fights on a select few subreddits and her topic of specialty is army powerscaling and warfare history
she frequents war thunder forums and doesn't play
i can see that
mood, new layout is annoying sometimes
Ohhhhhhhh
New theory on the reddit that I'm sold on
||The Pinky Nursefather we see is actually Ryoshu's daughter.||
I fuck with this theory
Yeah that’s ||what I’ve come to believe||
It would track also with theory that Limbus Company ||is Lord Horikawa||
Aged up by the hyberbolic time chamber
smoked more cigs than ryoshu in her lifetime
Limbus company ||promised to obliterate the spider’s house and kill all the nursefathers… and also promised to allow Ryoshu to reunite with her daughter||
Just like ||how lord Horikawa promised a burning carriage with a woman inside it… and also for Yoshihide to see his daughter again||
No promises given ||for how, where, and in what condition||
-# @ekfvoddl_3
Oh so NOW you buy it! I see how it is 
I am still personally hoping against because I saw the theory too but it was based on leaks and I’m mad about that.
new mili song? yayyyy
is that Myth & Roid
Also chat, was Ezra an Udjat?
no
I just saw what looked like her in the mask in this animation
dont think so no
Oh
Oh ok then
I do not pay attention apparently 
what
ah
this is the kinda shit im gonna do to rien when im done with him
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#リ...
Quirked up korean boy out to rip your heart out and put it on display
(RIP seven heath)
I gotta kill Ayin dude
Ya know
It occurs that it would be problematic, character wise and for the continued existence of LCB, if ||Araya died this Canto|| (Canto 9 spoilers)
||because ryoshu would crash out hard and probably not honor the contract anymore?||
||taking away a Sinner’s Wish with no hope of getting it back is problematic for the entire contract thing and motivations for the characters to stay with LCB||
||do you suggest araya will be alive at the end of this, no matter what state she's in?||
||araya is going through some hxh shit||
||I think that there has to be some kind of satisfying reunion for Ryoshu and Araya, whether or not she dies I suppose is immaterial after that but I think that the wish Faust promised Ryoshu is at odds with the way Hell Screen goes and we’ve seen that the wish takes priority||
o, my rubber nen...!
A quick, 30 second preview of content found in the rhythm-based fangame, "Quixotic Pursuit".
NOTE: As a part of Project Moon's fanwork guidelines, this game will not be able to be made public unless I recieve notice from Project Moon giving me permission.
Index Don is actually pretty cracked
I can also see her being super powerful in mirror dungeon if you ironically do reverse singleton and replace most of her skills with her s3 lmfao
SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP
Once she gets to unlock 3 though she just gets to use her counter forever
sooooo this cover actually took me long time to make.. but yeah
i hope u would like the song, pv and the thumbnail cause i spent a lot of time on it 🙏
● song by @DECO27
● Base UST: @curechihiro
● Tuning & Mixing: 8月
● PV, Thumbnail: 8月
Woops different link
||Hokma still cares for her, he just doesn't like what she's trying to do similar to all the other Sephirath||
don
Hey, interesting thing
Shiomi Yoru smokes pipes in flashbacks, but she left cigarette butts in that room
That's a big chest on angela. It's a big comical
SOmeone mentioned her saying ryoshu instad of yoshihide, too?
Lot of different evidence suggests that ||pinkie nursefather we fight in this canto and the pinkie nursefather from Ryoshu’s memories are not the same person||
Every other ||nursefather still retains damage from Ryoshu’s attack on them. She’s the only exception||
||They're producing abusive moms in a facility||
Only issue ||is pinkie nursefather says things only the real pinkie nursefather would’ve said, like “that’s always the face you made when I took away something precious from you.”||
Possibly ||it’s a pinkie nursefather from a different universe projected onto someone else||
Since we know ||mirror tech allows one to use ids of people who doesn’t have the incurable disability the person of this world have||
||most Gregor ids not having the bug arm etc||
I thought that was to taunt Ryoshu
I agree. I also can't help but be reminded of this image
Not sure why that spoilered itself
Uh, this spoils Ruina's edition of LobCorp Angela, I guess lmao
Designed as Ayin intended vs Designed as Carmen intended
But yea Angela has a huge rack in some of the LoR cutscenes where you get a side profile
Some source of SP gain got removed (forget what) and the big red nukes got changed to self-inflict paralyze on clash lose, changing damage calculations in the players’ favor
Ahhh I see
I feel like this interaction would be unique to Lei Heng and Valencina, because they're maybe the only two thumb members who do not care about etiquette beyond what's absolutely required for their superiors
Valencia was then found reenacting the 5 minutes and 30 seconds of pain the next day she did this because Lei Heng laced his shit with enough laxatives to kill an elephant
Honestly, I’m not even sure Valencia cares about what’s required lol
Maybe it’s just due to her, semi exile into the house of spiders
But she was shit talking Vergilius
oh yeah true
Who absolutely outranks her in the city’s hierarchy
it's probably unlikely that she's even interacting much with like, Thumb hierarchy anyways
Lei Heng is still giving courtesy to those who outrank him at least
||hrmmm... Jia Qiu might not be the Jade Qilin then... Lei Heng didn't seem to act like Jia Qiu outranked him||
Yah, it seems like the house of spiders nursefathers are sorta, exempt from a lot of the normal rules of their fingers
it's interesting
I mean, he was still himself but he never actually insulted Jia Qiu when talking to him
I think because his personality is sorta, naturally associated with impoliteness a lot of what he says could come off that way but his actual words were kinda neutral towards him
true
though with the examples of the Thumb we saw in Ruina, it seemed to moreso be outright deference to superiors
though also I imagine that's moreso like, classic thumb members, which Lei Heng is not quite that
anyways I just wanna see Thumb members with guns again so we can get more ammo IDs please
That’s fair yah
But like, they seemed more reserved in general tbh
Kalo drilled in respect to their DNA
yeah
canto 9 spoilers ||damn, the ebony queen's apple in canto 9 is really tough||
||is there anything im missing?||
||read the passives. They tell you what part to target to disable most of her mechanics||
fight guide spoilers ||work those legs until they fall!||
in general it seems like PJM wants us to lean more towards like
thinking about what attacks to let unopposed instead of clashing everything
Yeah I do appreciate those additional calculations this canto's enemies seem to want you to make
It fits the tone of fighting a superior force very well imo
Even if some can be a bit annoying on first playthrough (the apple)
when the limbus gamer doesnt read
it does feel like fighting more on ruina rules too which i looove
I beat it btw, ||kill the legs first, then it's cake||
unrelated ||YOOOO AENG DU GOT HIRED FUCK YEAH||
(not made by me btw)
it'd be so fucking funny if Kim just still looked distorted
like
he's fine, just looks like that forever now
Glowing blue eye and everything
Praying he gets some proper gear instead of genuinely just normal fucking metal sword
Ezra: btw here's a cool sword
Bro was using starter equipment he needs an upgrade
He's gotta use it and like. Genuinely handle that shit flawlessly
cuts to thumb members running away in fear
Kim: "GO AHEAD, WIN THE CLASH! WIN THE CLASH YOU FOOLS!"
Bro loses a clash and the battle music changes to his like Gebura E.G.O activation in LoR
i hope we also get him as an ally in fights
KIM THE THUMB ARE BURN/TREMOR
YOU ARE COUNTERED BY BURN TREMOR KIM
THEY HAVE UNBREKABLE COINS THEY DON'T NEED TO WIN CLASHES
boneclaiming does like 800 AoE damage and his stagger bar is like halfway down his 4000 HP he'll be fine
You say that and yet I have litterally not once seen him use it in my time playing
TCTB?
ya
how long have you been playing?
that's a good question
I experienced it once and lost the fight next turn
but yeah fair enough
Since Canto 7 I think
that's a shame, the animation is really cool
I should like
go back and lose the fight with Sora so I can see her Mang of Immanent Yearning attack animation
also cool note: the attack name "Procuration: Annihilation - Mang of Immanent Yearning" does not contain a typo
an animation gallery for enemies you've fought would be so nice
it's a direct reference to how Sora's EGO is symbolic of the unity between her will and the Prescript
"immanent yearning" meaning that the Will of the Prescript is immanent to Sora's personal desires, i.e. that the will of the prescript naturally arises from her desires
rien you asshole she's a prescript generator solely for you
I kinda think Rien’s pager just regularly sends her garbled nonsense and the “ciphers” are just random interpretation like how the looms work.
Price of Silence is so fucking evil
Kim will always be the strongest person to me because he was the first time I was hard stuck on something in this game
ignore how I only had a sinking team at the time
you didn't get stuck on ricardo?
Yo it’s me Roland from Library of Ruina on the Nintendo Switch
Price doesn't copy passives IIRC, so through Power passives you should generally still win clashes
and then it's mostly just putting in pages quickly
you can also give Hokma a weak keypage, and exploit its weakness with the rest of your decks
can you imagine doing price on console
Nah, he took me like 2 tries
Damn
also IIRC it only spawns one ghost thing per turn at first?
if you can just consistently kill one every turn, it doesn't really do much
and you outnumber it
dude it's fucking Hokma what power passives
also wait does it specifically steal from Hokma or what
like
it takes the resistances of Hokma's keypage
would it be a disastrous idea to run clone rapid gashes BHK
ohhhhh ok
so give Hokma a keypage with fatal weakness to a type
and then do that type with the rest of your builds
and just onesided the Remnants as much as you can and they should just die
though with pierce I would have to hard spec into it
because the main one would be stilleto which fucks over every other dice type
you can just do like Pierce PT, Allen and something
give Hokma the pierce fatal Rat page, with some good pierce combat pages
Mang-chi?
yeh
why would i want to give him good pierce combat pages again
so he can still clash and fight
i hope we get an ID that constantly bickers with another ID
how the fuck do I do Blue Star
yes
ding ding ding ding ding
Blue Star is just stagger people and don't get staggered yourself yeah
YuRia save this man, give him the coolest fucking sword please
(I know she's ||the only member of Moses' crew not to show up in Linbus yet, but we can hope)||
||i wonder if she's still a bear||
||i wonder if she got herself a robot suit to pilot as a bear||
||im getting fucked up by this moth||
||that'd be cool as fuck honestly||
||Wings, ignore body||
Yeah a lot of the ||abno fights you've gotta focus on specific parts to prevent them using their gimmick||
||esp with four sinners||
||often best to take your chances with an EGO clash against the moth's nuke skill, since winning that can help regulate the burn situation if things get really bad. follow the general strat of attacking the wings tho||
okay
Hokma floor realization time
before I even finish Judgement Bird
because that prick is fucking impossible
that is actually sad jeez
my sinners are as optimal as my patience
oh god
||we're starting with Whitenight apostles||
I tend to use the ones I find cool and have the patience to grind for
I mean their attacks
I literally only got my first non base EGO today
I do not have any ids to be building teams with
I have the crush team and that it is
-# I do have index don though so she is carrying me through canto 3 and 4
Luxcavations
The only way to get exp tickets regularly (there's also evens, the battlepass and the refraction railway)
my poor enkaphalin
Yeah
tbh I only do them when I cant progress on the next story mission
so usually half way through a story dungeon
P. much the same way I do things
Since obvs story content is preferred to just grinding and pressing the winrate button
yeah 😭
and whenever I do mirror dungeons it genuinely takes years off my lifespan
although thats really only for the id's so could be worse
-# I just want index proselyte faust xd
I don't have her yet unfortunately
I have InDon and Udjat Outis
But the gacha does not want my ass to get her
fellow inDon haver 💪
real
tbh I dont want her for any reason I just like the index aesthetic
you just gotta lock in and maybe use Kizuna
hoks ma rock at you
Wait, ||where the fuck has hong Lu been this entire canto?||
||has he not had a single line of dialogue?||
||not really, though that's not too uncommon for sinners right after their canto||
He has had lines
what
Hokma realization should be pretty by the numbers mostly
just prepare for losing two nuggets
tbh it's pretty much just that I don't actually know what I'm supposed to do
like I assume stagger all apostles
but then like
Paradise Lost has 650 HP and I do piss poor damage
Kill the main boss as much as you can while its defenses are down
It loses its damage resistance when you down the Apostles
ohhhh okay
like, all of them?
yes
We got the last season preview before caposault right?
||ugh, the pinky nursefather is tough||
Yeah so we should get s7’s soon after the canto ends..hopefully..maybe..
||but i get that i need to clash with silent regard with the units that rolled higher on speed to make her other stuff easier to clash with its just tough. i keep loosing against her big aoe skill and that means a reset basically||
finished floor of religion realization
||this is wei but worse. am i missing something?||
okay yeah how do I do Judgement Bird
are you on level 60 with all 7 deployed units, Punch?
the big thing is that like Ricardo, this is a fight against someone of a higher level who is not holding back, so the offense-defense level difference is going to mean a lot more
other than doing the green skills thing, the main way to find a W in this fight is to manage your SP carefully to make sure you'll have someone who can win the critical clashes
And it does help that Ryoshu's passive is fully on against the enemy
there's also some stuff you can do with Clash Counters/Guards; ||because of her passive meaning that she does half damage against defense skill users, you can use that vs. the unbreakables that inflict afterimage||
-# u/TinyReputation4196
Rodion being a OHKO gambler is so perfect, Ryoshu showing up with the intention of causing unlimited suffering and pain to the community also tracks
after all, F.E.A.R. is a SANGRIA right
She was shit talking the CONSIGLIERE
Even if consiegliere is like, outside usual command structure for mafiosi
She would still be someone in capo di tutti capi’s inner circle
And|| Valencina was shit talking her lmfao||
I hate that stupid fucking child and her friends
Oh shit right yah
Yah she’s absolutely gotta be considered like, outside of the thumb
Shit talking the consigliere is like, execution worthy normally
At the very least the punishment has gotta be more severe then just ripping out their tongue
ough, petty retirement beef
see
consiegliere is technically a person who’s not part of the mafia. But it means Counsel. Aka, they are mob lawyers
They don’t have any authority within the mafia itself but are in a position of advisor to the big boss
I really hope we learn more about how the Nursefathers ended up in the House of Spiders lol
5 washed up fingers walk into a bar...
The origin of her resentment is that she was stuck raising Ryoshu instead of traveling the world
As befits a member of the pinky
It kinda seems like spider house is like a place of exile where people embarrassing to each finger gets sent to
I mean what's embarrassing about the nursefathers so far exactly
what's that mean for the apprentices
Yah, other then Valencia’s blatant disregard for courtesy, all of the other nursefathers embody their fingers well
Matthias is the archetypical big brother, the ring nurse father’s lectures on art are in line with the ring, Rien still seems loyal to the prescripts
Valencina can fight a Color to a standstill, you can't exactly embarrass the Index, Matthias is normal for the Middle, mystery Ring nursefather is practically exemplary and Shiomi Yoru seems like she's just really fucking salty?
Maybe they show their flaws and hypocrisies?
Maybe Matthias is overly selfish though
So far, the connecting thread for why they left is just, age
yeah its just the unc house
nurseuncs
Matthias said he’s retired, Valencia has a history going back to the smoke war so she’s pretty old probably
Rien’s hair is going white
Yeah
I would still argue that Valencina occupying Vergilius is not a merit to her strength in particular due to the fact he was not using anything besides his gladius, and the fact she had a hostage who Vergilius was not going to risk harming
Absent minded
||or someone who knows more than theybshould||
merit to her effectiveness at doing her job though
Saying shit that no ring maestro should say lmfao
True
Still
Yah, the ring maestro referencing the idea of the palm is concerning
Ring nurse father is more insightful than he seems
ans for index NF
sure the ring maestro is fucking weird and fringey but like
||what the fuck do i do against her turn 4 skill? i win the clash and it still deals 300+ damage||
isn't that uh
He identifies|| the cause of sinners losing consciousness immediately||
expected
Yah, based off what Vergilius said I think hostages are well within the “courtesy” of the thumb
If you were good enough, you wouldn’t have been taken hostage anyway
||Space Rend?||
Oh I forget did he?
I think mainly I'm wondering about Rien, Matthias, and Shiomi
Yeah
||yeah||
Yah, he brings up to Hohenheim the idea that the fingers are in fact all one hand
||I think Rien is not as dedicated to the prescripts as othrr Index||
He suggests ||if you trace each Finger to its roots you might find a same hand controlling each||
alright, great
||I think he follows them, but his interpretstions are a lot more for his own venefit them that of the index||
Ehhhhh, I doubt it
great game design kjh
Which like, definitely still a possibility
The highest ranking finger member we have is Kalo still
They’re being very cagey on the high ranking members
||I mean aestheticallt, he inverts their color scheme||
||[On Hit] Consume all Bladetrail -Afterimage- on target and deal (Bladetrail -Afterimage- consumed)% HP damage against each target, respectively||
this is what's deleting you
||The Index, even sora, are mainly white with black accents, but he wears an all black suit||
I just kinda doubt it because of how the Index is
And we now know ||Central Branches of fingers exist, which means even the fingers we assumed was decentralized do have kind of a head organization||
||I didn't say he doesn't velieve in them||
Yah. I guess whatever branch is located in A B and C Corp
||But his conversation withnryoshunis about blending to things together and manipulating language||
||Fpoon or a spork||
||you need to cleanse Bladetrail Afterimage by clashing against Phantom Step or Space Rend will just murder your Sinners even on a clash win||
True...
Even ||Sora, while an avatar of the will of the index, is a very flexible person||
She’s always ||trying to interpret her prescripts in a way that causes least damage||
yeah I think the thing about Rien is that he isn't unfaithful or anything
||he's just mastered the art of twisting Prescripts to mean whatever he wants them to mean. Fpoon.||
||Your words were very "effective".||
||And that is absolutely something thatz while the index can use could lead to exile||
She got a prescript to ||help her family, and instead of helping them by killing their enemies, interpreted it to be “well I’ll just be in the local area and help them out if absolutely necessary.”||
||He clearly has the mindset of someone who regards language as a tool and a weapon rather than a means of communicating with right and wrong interpretations||
||I also am.wondering if the prescripts Sora gets are evn genuine||
||I still think that skill is the reason for Ryoshu to use sangria||
oh its definitely related
||Acronyms can’t be changed, they just mean what they mean||
||Vecause from index don, we ge that they come from the Nurse father through the pager||
||also the fact that this is the Gebura Canto and Gebura is the Patron Librarian of the Floor of Language||
It might not. ||She claims it comes “ciphered.” We haven’t seen a ciphered prescript before||
Yah
||Ciphered and through a device rather rhan a pape cloth||
She might legit ||just see a random string of letters that she then imbues meaning to ||
||tbh I suspect that the cipher is meaningless and that it's all wordplay and seeing things where there isn't anything||
Yeah
||Like given the religious nature of the prescrips coming from the weavers, it seems odd to change the delivery method so drastically||
but also, the Index ID stories imply you can get Prescripts in all sorts of mediums, not just paper slips like the ones Yan delivers
maybe
i still.thin
therr is something up with him and his connection to the index
and also i think there is definitely a reason why the first limbus only intro we get to the indez
is Faust dealing with a guy making phony prescripts
Imagine one of the giant machines that gives out prescripts via one of those duck toys filled with water typing on a keyboard
Okay yeah that’s fair enough
relevant
But still
I reckon we'll find out the deeper secrets next week when we assuredly get Index Nursefather Yi Sang
||oh the safe was time-locked, interesting||
indeed
I’ve come to find that I really love gimmicky mini game ids like index and degenerate gambler Ishmael
I need to build a gambling team
I've been thinking of designing an ammo gimmick ID that uses a defense skill to load different types of bullets and fire them
How'd you get the different types I'm not sure yet, but it'd be based partially on choice and partially on random chance
||abother oddity with sora's prescripts: they're very simple||
Jeongmael is really fun
I think it's partially the sfx
Some real neuron activation there
last used sin affinity
There's something about it that just hits
It's like the LOR finger snap for me
Every day I lament garden of thorns Gregor didn’t have better sin mechanics
PJM likes making soundbyte cocaine
Which I cannot get out of my head, Angela please-
Totally, yeah
I think it's a part of what makes their battles good that isn't talked about enough
multi attack weight sfx on staggered enemies is like ogugheuhheughugguhugggn nn
True
Could have 4 different sin affinities, and like uhhhhh
Maybe the ammos buff the different skills enough that you can keep using S1s without them sucking ass if you get into a good rhythm with your skill rotation
||yeah he's busting out the big guns||
||related: i've talked about this before, but that scene with marton still gets me||
Hrmmm
Could also have it be based on team sin affinities
And each one queues up a set of bullets to load with the defense skill, maybe like... 6 bullets?
Could be kinda neat to have them be an ID that can generally fit onto most statuses though not really excelling at any particular status
Triple status....
The bullets determine which status they count for ig
This reminds me I haven't been doing my grinding as I should be, other games have drawn my limited (i have audhd) attention span away 🙏
||UGHHHHHHHHHHHHH I CANT WAIT||
Ridiculously overcomplicated but I think jt would be fun
just finished act 2?
Need to add the subway surfers gameplay footage in one corner of my screen /j
yeah
complicated is the name of the game here
thats why you get two monitors!
(has only one monitor)
Important is that Vergilus was a color before he got Ego
I have a gaming laptop, so one monitor for me
So she is still stalling a color by herself
okay yeah fair
fr? was it also before Mang?
Yes
yerp
yea
crazy
Valencia is also not going all out either
he got ego and mang in one operation
Her goal was to stall
not.going all.out eithrr
Jinx
also true
Yeah Valencina's playing smart instead of directly clashing him, for obvious reasons
Since he probably can't use his full power w/o risking charon, considering how close quarters the arena for their fight is
||is verg going on the operation?||
also if ryoshu wasnt in so much shock i bet she'd comment like "this plan is going to lead to a lot of us dying lol"
She did yeah
I still think ||the operation|| is going to end badly, one way or another
I want Charon screentime, ||despite being a hostage she herself wasn’t on screen much
Can the next intervallo be a Charon intervallo plz and thx kjh||
most definitely
she was presumably under Valencina's arm like a sack of potatos
Yeah lol
||"Spider Pyre" is not a name that evokes good things in this context||
I do want this Canto to be a bad end tbh
LCE is joining the operation with basic combat training and the injured. LCD's newest hire lost both her fucking arms
We've had it too good for too long
It'll be interesting
||BHK will clutch up||
trust
the standouts are an unsabotaged LCA, LCB (just because of revives), and DISTORTED BLADE KIM MY GOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT
Canto 6 ended tragically, Canto 7 ended pretty bittersweetly, canto 8 i think is the only good ending we got
Time to get back to our regularly scheduled programming after helping xichun (suffering)
LCD has a lot of trouble with the nursefather levels, too it seems
||wait, kim is going???||
||cmon jamila, don't fail us now||
||yeah he's mentioned as an LCD member||
||is vergilius going?||
||yeah||
||idk how they deal with TWO ENTIRE COLOR FIXERS||
||Two colors and like 5 alphabet names for the LC departments||
I mean they Fingers deal with it by also being that strong
||they also have home field advantage, the nursefathers||
||0% chance Alyssa survives this raid||
||the nursefathers have presumably fucked with the house to make the terrain work to their advantage||
||and moses seems pretty strong too||
Ryoshu will likely ||burn up her memories of her kid to cut the final boss||
Vergil mentions ||that just last week he was being grilled over importance of not intervening, but that today company is pretending as if that meeting never even happened||
||come into my parlour, said the spider to the fly, ect||
oh
||and im assume dhes allowed to fight if charon is in danger||
||Vespa is a new color fixer and notably was mostly going clash for clash with Matthias, iirc||
||LCA should do better this time since they’re presumably prepping for this mission better,
LCB is LCB, hopefully we can take
LCD has a color and a peak strategist
LCE. Well just have to hope Big Bird EGO carries Hohenheim to the tier of a nursefather
Even if every department can take out a single nursefather that still leaves a whole nursefather and whoever else is at the house||
||i would be so hyped if the ending was that Ryoshu was willing to forget her kid to save her and araya had to like. slowly refresh her on who she is Gravity Falls style||
You know how crazy it is
||gravity falls mentioned, peak||
||Moses has strong tech but isn't a direct fighter compared to others at her level.it seems||
For fingers to shove five star of the city level agents into a single place
man i didn't expect ||marton to go out like a firework to save hohenheim's hind||
||Hohenheim actually has Lamp and Diffraction, so he's got at least 3 in all of the 4 lob corp stats, I am willing to assume more due to the different form of the Lamp weapon and how LCE E.G.O gear just. is.||
||Yeeeeerp||
||more survivors guilt for the poor guy||
||foreshadowed with LCE Yi sang it's peak it's the worst it could ever happen||
||oh is that what his crossbow is??||
Moses can bind even ||stars of the city for significant length of time. That plan would’ve worked if not for moonstones||
||alyssa is 100% going to blow up, maybe hoenheim survives||
||hohenheim drives me crazy||
||It has the same flame as the Lamp hammer, so I'm willing to assume||
||Ye.||
||LCB Check Up event and it's two suicide Identities like they had death flags from the start||
||if Alyssa's death flags go off next part I'm gonna be so fucking sad||
||not to mention AEDD and survivor's guilt lol||
||THIS HAPPENED TWICE TO HIM||
She’s a moth heading towards a PYRE
||i hate to say it i really do but if alyssa is on that raid it's gonna be a third time.||
||Dude her ID literally fucking kills itself in battle and is a flaming moth heading towards an operation called the Spider Pyre. neither of those are good for moths.||
||i know, but the hopium endures||
||like genuinely this isn't even a death flag anymore, it's a fucking death parade march||
||Third time's the charm :^)||
||LCE fansninnshambles||
||People have also considered the crossbow might be indicant's trial from burning duchess||
||ooo, also true||
||either way he's got either 2 or 3 WAW E.G.O gears equipped, bro is ready to wage war||
It’s fine ||to mix and match ego gear after all||
||would be cool if we got more on the no show Abnos ||
hohenheim ||might be one of my favourite side characters in general because behind the idgafer facade is someone who does care a lot about the people who work under him - see him trying to recognise the faces in the ring's "artwork" in part 1, for example||
||He's at minimum slinging Lamp and Diffraction at the same time||
||so i am genuinely really curious to see how his subplot unfolds||
||Bro is ready to throw down. Mix and matched ego gears to optimize||
Wonder how they are gonna introduce an Aleph
I feel like ||if we are battling stars of the city, alephs can’t be too far behind||
||my guess is that Hohenheim will have a pyrrhic victory and either severely wound or kill the Nurse Ringfather, but that yet more LCE employees will die, Alyssa will sacrifice herself for him, and he will be wracked with guilt for the third time by someone giving up their life for the sake of his||
||Bro is gonna corrode or throw himself to die in battle at this rate||
There's also that bit about ||Hohenheim asking her if she wants to use that ego, so yeah. Yeah...||
||there's still hope.... (lying to himself)||
||I feel like even if that happens, he's gonna survive and going to have to continue to live with his crushing guilt||
That’s what lobcorp was all about
Continue pressing on no matter the weight of sin you pile up
Who are they to judge you
No sacrifice top great
Ayin speechbubble
No mouth to cry suffering
No buzzsaw spared
Lobcorp but Ayin has the interior design sensibilites of the Pale King
every single fucking person involved in this canto is going to come out of it miserable
||yeah, theyve got 5 stars of the city, but weve got TWO COLOR FIXERS, the whole udjat, hoeniem with crazy ego gear, moses, and bamboo hatted kim||
hingnlu canto: everyone.lives!!
there's no way things turn out well
Ryoshu canto.: oh fuck
especially with just. how the flow works. how all of this works.
Yeah I feel like the lineup of cantos we have is uh
||with the Malkuth glitch manifestation||
Mutually assured maiming
||yeah things are gonna get fucked up, but theyre gonna get fucked up even more||
Probably full of Bad Things for our cast from here on out
||with the name being Spider Pyre. with everything||
||it's gonna be phyrric||
Meursault, Outis, Faust, possibly Dante
and like
Especially you, Outis
all of it is going to fucking spiritually kill them
nah
especially Faust
like
Outis? yeah, she'll have fucked up shit happen
but Faust is genuinely going to experience multiversal suffering I think
the end
Not true
||Charon will not come out miserable because Verg will give her candy||
okay one exception
Charon: vroom vroom
Nursefathers die
True and valid, truly the events of this canto will be a net positive
We just need to swap her into verg's body again like in the last april fools event trust
She uses Mephi to demolish the House of Soiders instantly
My uncle's eighth brother works at PM and told me this
my bet
god, im so ready to hear the new milli song
I like how Sora ||has to chant “DESTINY UNLOCK TRANSCEND!” To transform like she’s a magical girl or smth||
If it's a lullaby I'm gonna just be sitting there in silence for a bit i cannot lie
it's gunna hurt
Mili is going to cook up something so deeply diabolical and evil that we will all take a week of mourning to process part 3 of Canto 9
we're fuuuuuuuuuuucked
Odds of ||Sora death anyways is about 70% methinks||
the moment i start hearing Mili I know shit's gonna hurt so so so fucking bad
||oh, ALL of the apprentices are cooked||
We usually only get ||ids of people whose stories are done||
||maybe one or two nursefathers die||
I think the apprentice's days may be numbered yeah
Albinaaaaaa
Please ryoshu save them
||SURLEY THIS MEANS THE GLORIOUS RETURN OF XUE PAN||
||hmmmmmmmmmm||
given the spider's thread thing
I think it's like
Xue pan id for hongler in canto 16 trust