#Project Moon Games: Lobcorp, Ruina, Etc.

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cloud wadi
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that thrice cursed apple

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beat it but not easily

stoic fjord
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||idk, I just didn't see the S3 border, maybe S2s were there? same for verg||

dusty sigil
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Also man, based off all of the color skills so far

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The indigo elder probably has a skill that’s just “get 99 poise and poise count”

cloud wadi
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he'll take a puff from his cigar and get 99 poise count

split beacon
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I love blemor in mirror dungeon

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it's so funny to deal like 300 damage on clash win with peggor

keen palm
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okay I'm sorry for laughing

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ebony queen has hands

split beacon
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did you catch some hands

stoic fjord
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I winrated ebony queen and won so clearly you guys just suck /j

keen palm
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I did win

stoic fjord
keen palm
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but only after losing 6 sinners

stoic fjord
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YEAH SAME LMAO

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dude

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fucking

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200 AoE every other turn

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on a threadlux

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is criminal shit

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okay well more like 100 since I broke the coin but the one time I didn't

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ourhg.

dusty sigil
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THIS SHIT IS CRAZY

stoic fjord
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I'm sorry for disrespecting her as a WAW

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and I'm sorry for calling her a fraud after Brazen Bull was harder because now it's not anymore

split beacon
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get out the Ebony Queen's Apple apology forms...

gentle mulch
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Pilotnet issuing an apology for ebony queen stating quote

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"i was not familiar with her game"

stoic fjord
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crazy how 8 cantos later we're filling out Ebony Queen apology forms

gentle mulch
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it's definitely not one i winrate

stoic fjord
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god

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I'm dreading all the other level 60 threadluxes now

gentle mulch
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shock centipede is gonna be a skiplux for me

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i dont wanna deal w it

cosmic gorge
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Imagine doing the canto 1 mirror dungeon pack and surprise the ebony apple is the upgraded version there

stoic fjord
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what will the moth do to me I thought it was easy in the story but maybe it'll fucking kill me

cosmic gorge
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On Floor 1

stoic fjord
gentle mulch
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ebony queen jumpscare

stoic fjord
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I can't wait

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for all of these bosses to be in MD

worthy haven
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Ok i am at 9-33

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holyp eam

dusty sigil
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Also man, it is really funny to me that ||Rien tells Ryoshu “don’t worry daughter, in my heart you solo the rest of the sinners”||

split beacon
worthy haven
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GAMING

dusty sigil
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Also man

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||Ryoshu is a lot younger then I thought||

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||I thought she was like, in her forties||

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||But it seems like she’s in her late 20s to early 30s||

gentle mulch
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she does look the part

worthy haven
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Ok I think fight is going well without Morostasis

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letsgo

keen palm
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I have a theory

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that Ryoshu doesn't even actually have a daughter

worthy haven
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OK I DID IT

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lessggoo

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that wasnt so bad!

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I think

split beacon
worthy haven
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||there might be more after the big judgement cut....?||

split beacon
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||theory is that it's some kind of childhood memory in the safe and not a live daughter because the little girl Ryoshu wants to protect is her own past self||

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||but you can't ever safe your past self from childhood abuse, just face it and sever the thread||

fluid whale
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I feel like ||hearing a name immediately disproves that theory though, right? and that's what we got at the end of this part||

keen palm
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||It seems like her as a child and her daughter having the same voice as well as it being seemingly impossible for her to have ever gotten pregnant or raised a child in the span of time she served as an assassin to when she left point to the child being a representation of herself yeah||

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It would also point to why in her EGO she's cradling her sword on the floor like that, it's her vulnerability

dusty sigil
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||Dihui star is very Beatrice Horse coded||

keen palm
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damn that was quick

split beacon
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bro got MAD

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said no more apples

worthy haven
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WHAT DO YOU MEAN ||9-35||

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IT JUST KEEPS GOING WTF

split beacon
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heh

worthy haven
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WDYM

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||IS THAT APO BIRD HOHENHEIM||

lean fjord
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||only Big Bird I believe ||

stoic fjord
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yeah, it's Lantern, not Twilight

dusty sigil
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||Trust||

stoic fjord
dusty sigil
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Oh lol

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I’m stealing all your ideas now

stoic fjord
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but also ||Marton fucking blew up so not likely||

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at the same time

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top 10 fanservice of all time

dusty sigil
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This canto has been fanservice central lol, trust the plan

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Trust the vision

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Unironically this canto has so much fanservice I love it

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It’s awesome

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Seeing the DD characters come back was crazy

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Let alone Aeng Du and maybe Kim

stoic fjord
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first ALEPH appearance this canto trust

dusty sigil
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Nothing there appearance trust

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Also legitimately, I am wondering if ||we’re gonna fight abnormalities or pectatula this dungeon||

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||unless the house of spiders was also built over an old l Corp branch for some reason||

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||which like… actually is a distinct possibility||

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||if la manchaland was built over one who’s to say anymore||

worthy haven
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don id spoiler. ||A god huh......||

cosmic gorge
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hey you know what else has a three letter name?

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||YAN||

dusty sigil
tired canyon
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Idk why I imagine the middle hunting down Roland like

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Mr frog on the ufc

fickle crown
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Testing the new Don ID out in a solo run

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So I think I get the gist of her gameplay

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She's much more punishing outside of solo play from my understanding, especially because she plays a lot like Dieci Hong Lu where you're forced to consider the opportunity cost of her skills

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Also plays weirdly like a mix between Wildcliff and Philclair

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Basically after getting enough unlock stages she triggers a stance change, then immediately cancels stagger if she's suffering from it. She gets -2s (and a -3) for her skills, absolutely massive power to boot

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That said she definitely doesn't like it if you don't fulfill her prescripts

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You can ignore a few but it's gonna catch up fast if you repeatedly refuse to follow that blue flower

split beacon
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You must obey the will of the Prescript

fickle crown
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*sometimes

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You can get a little bit of bad karma, just don't get too much

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Also her counter is apparently a Clashable counter in her unlock/EGO state

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Which is interesting

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Be aware that her counter is going to gather that karma status effect though so be careful about that

stoic fjord
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once index yi sang drops

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Sinking Poise is genuinely going to be kind of GOATed

fickle crown
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Also can I make an absolutely wretched joke?

dusty sigil
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From @ yongsadragon

stoic fjord
fickle crown
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Literally Index Don

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I am brain poisoned

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I'm not gonna lie though that's literally her fucking story lmao

fickle crown
fickle crown
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I

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Oh my god

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I'm going to explode in a corner now

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My brain has been fried this entire week

dusty sigil
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I mean

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She can still sound like Zach Hadal

cloud wadi
dusty sigil
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Huh?

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Wait did I miss her she confirmation?

fickle crown
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Like that part was an obvious joke

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Also man I got spoiled now...

cloud wadi
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And we know the current year from Dante’s notes I think

dusty sigil
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Ohhh righg

cloud wadi
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It does make it somewhat unlikely ||for her to have a child||

stoic fjord
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||it's just occurred to me that Valencina might be part of why Ryoshu doesn't eat much||

cloud wadi
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||esp when you got whole five nursefathers managing her every aspect of life||

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||and I highly doubt a pregnancy was part of their plan||

dusty sigil
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||the main scene we have of her is her learning how to read||

cloud wadi
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for index don

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you can get unlock 1 by turn 2 in a focused fight

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which is pretty cool

worthy haven
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man...

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what a peam act 2

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||So this does soft confirm that the Nursefathers seem to be like members of the fingers that got like ousted from their postion or something like that? Like the Valencina thing, Matthias saying how is not in the Biz anymore and isnt in his prime||

cloud wadi
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Like uhh

split beacon
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||I can't tell if they got kicked out or if the deal is that their superiors went "you're old and busted get off the battlefield and into a school so you can pass your skills on before you bite it"||

cloud wadi
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||they aren’t out of the organization but they are basically in exile||

worthy haven
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||hmm yee. I think for the Ringfather I could see them not fitting in cause their style doesnt go with the three big ones?||

cloud wadi
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Kinda the same energy as being promoted to a director of a facility in Antarctica

split beacon
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yeah

worthy haven
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||I do love Matthias, Ringfather and Rien having the fucking time of their lives while our female nursefathers just fucking hate everything about their current live||

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also ||fucking Matthias twoshotting a waw abno jesus christ.||

split beacon
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||the boy-mom nursefathers are definitely more, uh, attuned with the whole theme of being forcibly married off and losing their place as individuals||

worthy haven
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yeeee

cloud wadi
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||Male father abuse is more emotional neglect||

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||Rather than malicious blaming||

worthy haven
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hm yee

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also sidenote

keen palm
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Valencia is the female abusive father rep we need in the world today

cloud wadi
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Moses mentions that ||Kira had to learn to play video games and comics because that was the only way she could get Matheas to interact with her||

split beacon
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||Matthias is a dumb manchild who can't fulfil Kira's need for parental attention, Ringdad we don't really know about well enough but it seems like Ringdad doesn't really treat Albina as a daughter so much as a coworker underling and studio apprentice, and Rien...||

cloud wadi
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He’s the type of father who’s totally absorbed in his own world

lean fjord
split beacon
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||the less said about Rien's approach to parenting the better||

lean fjord
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based

worthy haven
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man the Index is one of the sickest thing project moon has created for sure

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they are so good

cloud wadi
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Rien ||seems to have intentionally fucked with a girl’s minds and did some kind of fucked up pavlov training on her to get her to develop ego||

uneven canopy
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truly we have been granted some fire index lore for our patience

worthy haven
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||Also I cannot overcome the fucking broken Malkuth moment.....||

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ALSO

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bets now

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||IS KIM GETTING AN EGO GEAR FOR SPIDER ASSAULT?||

dusty sigil
split beacon
ebon forge
worthy haven
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also gimme the ||redux kim id asap||

ebon forge
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He’s still stupid strong, don’t get me wrong

cloud wadi
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Like most index has to interact with messengers for their prescript and get directives from paper slips without every knowing for sure they are doing the right thing for the index

worthy haven
ebon forge
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Yuh

cloud wadi
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||she gets directives instantly an constantly from a pager and it instantly tells her whether she got it right or wrong||

ebon forge
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I’m just noting that our sinners aren’t ultra mega impossible outclassed ourselves

cloud wadi
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She got that instant gratification

worthy haven
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||the "13 sinner beside me" line is sending me||

cloud wadi
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Carmen tries to explain how it works

cosmic gorge
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when we fight rick dias it will be on even ground...

cloud wadi
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But she realizes she can’t explain it yet because th world starts glitching

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So she doubles back and gives a simpler explanation

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Which is a very human depiction of her lmfao

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“Anyways this works by ^}€~* and {%|*.—oh wait, I can’t…”

“Anyways this works by simpler and more enigmatic explanation

wild mango
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just beact canto 8

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second favorite

cloud wadi
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That E.G.O, which is a proxy of ■■■, a god of the City, is quite similar to a Distortion.
A concept, perceived as "Prescripts", ■—
Oh. This isn't yet…


Effloresced E.G.O::Procuration.
Just as it was the case with the Nursefather of the Index, whom the child follows as her "Master..."

... it is interesting, how even the E.G.O that bloomed from her own is an imitation of something else```
eternal berry
cloud wadi
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Question is

cosmic gorge
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also, whats the strat against ren and albina

stoic fjord
wild mango
cloud wadi
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How are we going to obliterate the spider house

cosmic gorge
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i continued it but i wanna clear it later

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she keeps eating me with auto damage

cloud wadi
unique bane
cosmic gorge
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i did that but ig i didnt focus fire enough

cloud wadi
split beacon
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I doubt it

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yeah it's probably an imitation of his weapon OR

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ORR

cloud wadi
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Which manifests I think as black smoky thing

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Like Hana nano machine weapons

split beacon
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it's an imitation of the god of the City

uneven canopy
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oh balls

cloud wadi
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Yeah

split beacon
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that makes Sora a living idol of that god

cloud wadi
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It’s either imitation of Nursefather’s weapons or the Index’ god

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Speaking of

split beacon
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considering she gains horns and a halo, as well as a weaponized tail, while her EGO is active

cloud wadi
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Yan also did have his distorted form resemble a large being with two massive hands

dusty sigil
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Hmm, ||after it being brought up, I still do think Ryoshu’s kid is real but I am thinking how she’d have one. And the more I think, I do kinda think that the kid is apart of the Spider’s plan. Specifically, that she was basically next in line to inherent Ryoshu’s position.||

||Right now a big part of the canto is essentially, motherhood being used as a “trap” of sorts. Dihui Star was stuck in the house of spiders because she was chosen to help raise Ryoshu, and now Ryoshu’s kid is being used as bait to have her come home. I think that the house of spiders set up this system, intentionally. That the blade that cuts all would have a child they’d raise to become the next blade, and so on. Forcing them to eternally stay bound to the house of spiders.||

||Ryoshu, by hiding away her child, was attempting to stop this cycle. She’d be able to escape and once she destroyed the house of spiders, she could raise her child, not as an anchor weighing her down, but instead independently as her own person||

stoic fjord
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I'm all in on the god being Yan, either as an abno or distortion

wild mango
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canto 8 spoilers ||the garion cameo was crazy||

split beacon
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repeated symbols because of similar problems

split beacon
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like neurosis becoming lightning

cosmic gorge
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so possible

cloud wadi
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I don’t think abnos are gods

cosmic gorge
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big yan has big claws no

cloud wadi
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Carmen certainly won’t call any abnos gods

cosmic gorge
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but would the index call em that though

cloud wadi
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I think she’s referring to actual gods

split beacon
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they both have these huge, shackled hands that are symbolic of the Prescript's power and will

cloud wadi
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Which we know exist

split beacon
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I think she's referring to what people call Gods of the City

cosmic gorge
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really

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what gods do we know exist

cloud wadi
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Roland mentions encountering one or two back in the day

split beacon
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Roland met two

cloud wadi
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Unnamed

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But Roland met one or two

stoic fjord
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He what

split beacon
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see

cosmic gorge
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hwhat

split beacon
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Roland's a fucking Color Fixer you guys

dusty sigil
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Roland has met a lot of people

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It’s kinda his thing

stoic fjord
dusty sigil
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He knows everyone and everything

split beacon
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one of the best Fixers of his day largely on the basis of information gathering

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his job

dusty sigil
split beacon
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was to know everyone and everything

cloud wadi
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It’s not like gods are anything special guys

split beacon
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and holy SHIT did he ever

cloud wadi
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It’s just a god

dusty sigil
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His job was essentially to meet people

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He tried to talk to the sweepers

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It didn’t work

stoic fjord
dusty sigil
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But he tried

split beacon
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I mean he kinda succeeded in the end

cosmic gorge
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i mean it wouldve worked if his fence wasnt a hack

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who gave him a shit translator

cloud wadi
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But yeah Roland mentions he met a god or two back in the day specifically in the context of bringing up weird beliefs like index

split beacon
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like the thing is

cloud wadi
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He claims that if enough people believe in some thing

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It becomes true

split beacon
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Roland has the whole Sakra-al-Djinni boast on lock

cloud wadi
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And becomes a phenomenon called god

cosmic gorge
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which ttrpg has that ruleset again

split beacon
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Mage

cosmic gorge
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where belief in a god sustains/creates them

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ah

split beacon
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he's spoken with Solomon, he built the walls of Karnak, Uruk, and Prague, etc.

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Roland has been everywhere and done everything that guy is a FREAK

cloud wadi
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But yes

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Gods are a known phenomenon

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So Carmen here is most likely specifically referring to an actual god

ebon forge
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bro at some point we gonna be playing How To Kill A God

dusty sigil
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He’s probably like, the second well traveled guy in the city besides like, Bari

cloud wadi
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Not an abno or a distortion

ebon forge
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(actual manhwa)

cosmic gorge
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the head is God

cloud wadi
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Whom she usually calls her children

stoic fjord
cosmic gorge
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or the demiurge

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two-track symbology really

split beacon
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you know what

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I'm calling it

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Bari probably has less connections than Roland

cloud wadi
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She calls normal people “child”

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But she calls abnos “her children”

split beacon
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but has probably travelled further and seen more weird shit

worthy haven
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ok can I ask someone that I find curious

split beacon
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like she has the Bloodfiend connection

cosmic gorge
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Dante is both luciferian and messianic

and the Head is both God, Demiurge (same thing to the gnostics) and the three headed Satan of the cold pit

cloud wadi
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Bari wanders the places without people

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Touches those at the edge of society

worthy haven
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||What is the point of training and filling a person with 5 finger knowledge to be the perfect killer and then give her a sword that requires memories to swing and kill?? Like am I missing something. There must be more to this||

cloud wadi
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But isn’t welcome in the high halls herself

split beacon
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Roland on the other hand is like

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the most Citygoer to ever Go the City

cloud wadi
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One of the 12 paladins

cosmic gorge
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adapatations of the inferno should give big tri-satan bug wings because bat wings do not flap that fast that it creates ice

cloud wadi
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Most honored knight of the city

dusty sigil
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the real way you can tell Roland is so knowledgeable is because he knows all the best restaurants in the city

split beacon
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yeah he's the fucking Knower

cloud wadi
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Not a miss “thrown in the forest to literally fucking die”

uneven canopy
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he's a michelin restaurant reviewer...

dusty sigil
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Roland is just the equivalent of those “ex hitman reacts to Hitman” video

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He sees the wackiest shit imaginable and goes “yah I knew a guy who did that once”

split beacon
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oh my God I want the Roland running commentary version of Limbus Company

dusty sigil
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“Ex Grade 1 fixer reacts to Color Fixers”

split beacon
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where he's just like "ah yeah see this is a rookie mistake you never go straight into a basement like that"

cloud wadi
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I’m still giggling|| at Rien considering sinner power scaling to be “her report card”||

split beacon
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and just glowers when Vergilius is there

worthy haven
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||The whole train person to be killer and then give her a sword that requires memories to pay plan is sending me||

split beacon
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DESPICABLE

worthy haven
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amazing

dusty sigil
split beacon
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absolutely diabolical shit

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He's so good

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every line ||Rien|| drops is a banger

worthy haven
dusty sigil
cloud wadi
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Yeah Ryoshu forgot ||a lot about her own sword style||

split beacon
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but I don't know if that's what's gonna happen

cloud wadi
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Yeah

split beacon
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there hasn't been a huge gutwrenching twist in this canto yet and I feel one coming on

worthy haven
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Like there must be something deeper about the ||sword|| why it is worth to use the sword or there is something that ryo is missing or is untrue

cloud wadi
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That’s what we’ve been led to believe is true at the start

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But now

cosmic gorge
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has it been hard confirmed that ||daihu star/the pinky NF is her bio mom or nah||

cloud wadi
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I’m starting to doubt

gentle mulch
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||the most tragic thing is ryoshu being able to protect but her daughter choosing sacrifice anyways||

cloud wadi
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They do rather|| sound alike||

split beacon
dusty sigil
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||it’s very hard to tell with her||

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||she could be lying about lying||

cloud wadi
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But dihui star ||kinda states that the responsibility to raise Ryoshu was suddenly thrusted upon her||

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In a manner ||that kinda suggests that Ryoshu isn’t her child||

dusty sigil
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||also man, how much was Pilot fucked up that ampules can’t fully heal him?||

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||genuinely what’d they do to the guy?||

cloud wadi
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Well ampules can’t seem to heal ||Aeng du and saude’s arms either||

stoic fjord
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I wonder why that is

gentle mulch
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i kinda call bullshit on that

cloud wadi
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Otherwise ||st least one of the sinners would have given them their own ampules by now||

gentle mulch
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||because guido could just keep majima'ing back after whatever||

stoic fjord
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Yeah I feel like there's some fishy shit going on

cloud wadi
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And they did heal Dante after they lost like

gentle mulch
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||so i dont necessarily believe it's consistent writing to be like ohhh an arm cant grow back||

cloud wadi
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Half of their own body

wild mango
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spoilers for spring cultivation

split beacon
wild mango
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||WHAT||

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||WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON||

split beacon
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yeah

eternal berry
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Welcome to the minigame of all time

cloud wadi
dusty sigil
split beacon
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it's hierarch musume time

gentle mulch
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XICHUNAMUSUME

eternal berry
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Well, “minigame”
Welcome to Princess maker

worthy haven
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LMAO (canto 9 spoiler)

split beacon
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the uma is on vacation sorry

wild mango
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this is peak

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thank you glorious director

gentle mulch
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it counts as a minigame

wild mango
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COMBO COMBINATIONS??

worthy haven
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The Matthias scar is very hot it has to be said

split beacon
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yeah

restive creek
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The new Battlepass EGO lends itself to very funny text.

worthy haven
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||Matthias truly is just a yakuza character||

eternal berry
stoic fjord
cloud wadi
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lmfao

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Dias literally sends her udjats gourmet meals in a stasis box

split beacon
cloud wadi
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She’s playing Rimworld while everyone else is playing warhammer 40k

cloud wadi
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I should update my corporate roster with index Don

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If only

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She had better poise and gloom. Egos

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Hmm

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Wonder if we could extract an ego from a god

gentle mulch
restive creek
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I only joined the game during Canto IV.

stoic fjord
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Being an Udjat sounds like a pretty nice gig so far as the City goes

cosmic gorge
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welll

restive creek
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You can tell due to how scuffed my completion is for RR2.

ebon forge
cosmic gorge
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ryo is already holding the One Sin

stoic fjord
gentle mulch
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if the evil woman who lords over me decides i die today so be it we are just stepping stones for her ascension

stoic fjord
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Me and ICEOUT are gonna be the best Udjat in the world

gentle mulch
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and if outis is there also

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ive won the timeline lottery

stoic fjord
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I wonder if we'll get any more LCA IDs

gentle mulch
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guaranteed

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we're gonna get more heishous with the bokgak

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then we'll uhhh

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get more vanguards

wild mango
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||OH MY GOD THEY PLAYED D&D||

split beacon
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they sure did

dusty sigil
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Yah that makes sense

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This fight is

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Hell

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To solo

restive creek
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||Someone soloed the Didui Star too||.

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||Or whatever she's called IDC||.

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||Doesn't deserve to have her title remembered||.

uneven canopy
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oh man no wonder they all took w ryoshu

crimson spindle
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Evade

worthy haven
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I am loving getting so many more sprite cutscenes

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It's awesome

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I really love them

cloud wadi
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Index proxy

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If you start winning, they get stronger

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If you start losing, they get stronger

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Index do work in mysterious ways

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Even failure to comply with a prescript leads to benefit for the index and their proxies

sudden arch
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Will of the city always wins

dusty sigil
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Man chat, the more we ||see Rien, the more I think Ryoshu started talking using acronyms because of him||

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||his insistence on words inbetween words and his general manipulations||

ebon forge
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Rien and his fpoon

dusty sigil
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Fpoon is a deeply evil word

ebon forge
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fooon wouldve been better

dusty sigil
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||but also legitimately I think him teaching Ryoshu words a metaphor for weapons feels like it’ll be the origins of Sangria||

ebon forge
#

f/oh/oo/n

wild mango
#

spring cultivation spoilers, asking for help ||jeez, what the fuck do i do against wei?||

#

||he has negative coins, and bodied me on turn 2||

dusty sigil
#

Are you using a sinking team?

ebon forge
#

||oh wait i just learned something about rien, they might've JUST stolen the safe||

#

||like, needing to steal wayward EGO gear might possibly be important?||

#

but im more willing to bet its ||Sora||

wild mango
dusty sigil
#

Ah ok, just making sure

wild mango
#

||i just won the clashes on t1, and the negative coins fucked me up||

dusty sigil
#

Because otherwise it’d be way worse

dusty sigil
#

Most of his skills have a pretty low cap

#

Generally 11-14

#

It kinda is just a win the clash scenario, one of his passives makes him gain sanity on clash loss

wild mango
#

oh

dusty sigil
#

I’d recommend just making sure to always clash his higher rolling skill with a skill 2 or 3

#

And use skill 1s on his 11 rollers

#

If you have none or not enough, consider using a defensive skill

#

Evades especially

#

It’s better to go for the defensive skill then a neutral or worse clash

faint pivot
#

Whew

#

What a part 2

#

Just finished 9-35

#

That was peam

#

To be fair, he ||literally just took the examination, like he was the freshest one could be from something like that||

cloud wadi
#

Lmao

faint pivot
#

He says the opposite, actually

#

The ||limited tests done says he's more than fit to use it||

#

My goofy ass used TotB while he was on 1, forgetting about the Bleed 😭

#

Bro really just went poof

gentle mulch
faint pivot
#

I hunger for more of this tbqh

faint pivot
#

I'm just pointing out that tendency of his that you mentioned

#

||He does in fact hype himself up a lot lmao||

gentle mulch
#

||he really likes obfuscating how much he's winging it on uncertainties||

faint pivot
#

Just incase someone gets jumpscared by that last line

gentle mulch
faint pivot
gentle mulch
#

ill just spoil it with the everything so if there's literally anything you dont know youll be less likely to click it

gentle mulch
#

||unfortunately he did take the alternative, not willingly||

lean fjord
#

||Marton just out sacrificed himself ||

faint pivot
gentle mulch
#

||one of em was dying at least, they both knew that||

lean fjord
#

||Poor Hohenheim though
How many times will his assistants sacrifice themselves for his sake ||

faint pivot
gentle mulch
#

||so at least one more time||

faint pivot
lean fjord
#

||He's already so afraid Alyssa is taking the Moth EGO into the raid ||

faint pivot
#

||Maybe this is why the Smoke was such a big deal...||

gentle mulch
faint pivot
lean fjord
#

I need Hohenheim to have a big moment in part 3

#

He deserves it

wild mango
#

i mathematically can't win every clash???

faint pivot
#

Can you share it with the class por favor

gentle mulch
#

||truthfully, like wholly and truthfully, the non sinner wounded should probably not be a part of this raid but the city's the city and if youre not dead youre dying||

wild mango
#

i cant even get out of turn 1 without him winning at least one clash and cascading from there

gentle mulch
#

whatchu got trouble w

faint pivot
#

||Wei||

faint pivot
gentle mulch
#

whats the team looking like

faint pivot
#

I'm not entirely sure about recommending that you field Gripper Faust but that may very well be necessary

gentle mulch
#

because those are two separate fights

faint pivot
#

Oh oops I forgot

faint pivot
gentle mulch
#

hrm

#

but yeah what team

faint pivot
#

||Was Saru mentioned more than once? I only remember the name being exclaimed by Araya, saying that her name isn't as random as it||

wild mango
cloud wadi
#

So the accusation ||of “that’s such a lame name” is probably right if it’s a name for a monkey||

faint pivot
#

MD Star?

wild mango
gentle mulch
faint pivot
#

You have N Sang too

wild mango
gentle mulch
wild mango
gentle mulch
#

she is uhh

#

a struggle to clash

faint pivot
#

I really hope this one ends well

gentle mulch
#

ringsang's skill 1 is also just like

faint pivot
#

Like I highly highly doubt it

wild mango
gentle mulch
#

painful

faint pivot
#

But I still hope for it

gentle mulch
#

kkhong lu is also a sufferer of clash bad syndrome

#

part of the new kk duo is having the older kk IDs die because they kinda suck at staying alive

wild mango
#

fuck it

#

im supporting a manager don tommorow

gentle mulch
#

can you use support ids?

#

yeah

wild mango
#

i wanted to try and do it without supports but naaaah

gentle mulch
#

you pretty much have a set team for bleed minus manager

#

if youre lacking in IDs

faint pivot
gentle mulch
#

just support em

cloud wadi
#

i'll put up index proxy don

wild mango
#

its all good, i spend the enkaphelin on modules anyways

gentle mulch
#

you can also use nsang to get nshu synergy

#

or double slot one of the bloodfiends, ideally meursault

#

or peggor

#

i havent used him but he's a walp id

faint pivot
#

Why not ManaDon?

gentle mulch
#

thats what the support is for

faint pivot
#

No no like

#

Why not doubleslot Manadon

gentle mulch
#

you could do that

#

drop outis

#

double slot mana

#

it's less likely barber outis is going to ramp up before people start dying

wild mango
#

Double slot?

faint pivot
# wild mango Double slot?

Bringing 1 less Sinner than the node allows you to in order to give the one you deploy first an extra skill slot

#

That only kicks in turn 2, mind, but it can be very very potent

split beacon
#

take less Sinners into a fight so that your #1 deployed gets multiple skill slots

faint pivot
split beacon
#

okay let me be more clear ig

#

you take less sinners so the remaining skill slots will get added in deployment order

#

ie at 6 Sinners / 7 skill slots, on turn 2 your #1 deployed gets 1 extra

#

at 4 Sinners / 7 skill slots, on turn 3 your #2 gets the next extra skill slot, then your #3 on turn 4

#

at 3 Sinners, on Turn 5 your #1 will get their 3rd skill slot since you need to fill all 7 slots with just 3 Sinners (eventually)

faint pivot
#

Aha, so -4. ok ok

#

I love the banter between these two

#

I honestly interpret that as ||Dante quoting someone else's words. Dante themselves is sinner #10 after all||

#

||I feel like that was a technique Moses pulled rather than a person||

#

I haven't read DD though so I wouldn't know

ebon forge
#

sora

faint pivot
#

Nay, ||she did that to herself. The commendations were well deserved imho||

#

Oops

#

Didn't see that you were already corrected my bad-

bronze zephyr
#

hi just finished part 2 christ

#

i should read. dd.

wild mango
#

god, this is sucha volatile fight

#

if you loose one clash on a bad skill you just loose

faint pivot
#

I mostly attributed the Proselytes. I do still use their later keypages though

faint pivot
#

I recommend using EGO to win clashes even if you go negative next turn

#

Getting ||Wei|| to higher SP is more important

#

LCE EGO have a more flexible sync limiter. Agent requirements stil exist to ensure that stuff like the Faelantern incident doesn't repeat itself

#

It's not even the sin most tied to her

#

It's just her name!

wild mango
#

I BEAT HIM

#

UGH

faint pivot
#

Congrats!

#

And welcome to canto 9!

wild mango
faint pivot
#

Accurate predictor yes

wild mango
faint pivot
#

So what I'll say probably won't map to you

wild mango
faint pivot
#

Especially if you uh, happened to remember your Durante abilities existed unlike me

#

I beat the main bosses of part 2 without them but also what the fuck man 😭

fluid whale
#

I think nothing has been as hard as even ||Wei|| as long as you're able to read carefully and clash on the level it expects

bronze zephyr
#

just read index don's uptie story what th efuck

fluid whale
#

Yeah it turns out the kids are not alright (I have not read the uptie)

faint pivot
#

I'll be sure to pass this onto whomever I'll find that it'll apply to

#

To add to Blue's advice, use Ryo as a tank, especially against ||Deathedge||, the wrath skill

lean fjord
#

Clash her green skills first when you can

sudden arch
#

||For me it was use fast skills to clash against the first ones that lower her clash power on lose, then clash the aoe unbreakable last,||

faint pivot
#

Curiously, that affect doesn't apply at all to the ||arm she's holding the bough canister with||

faint pivot
ebon forge
#

Also

#

If Jia Qiu shows up somehow

#

||We know the nursefathers are gonna get absolutely fucking NUKED||

#

he’s gonna become Antifraud Virgilius with how much wrath there’ll be /j

faint pivot
#

Caught up backreading!!!

split beacon
#

welcome back to the present

ebon forge
#

Also

#

If we’re looking to be like, grade 1 fixer strong by canto 12/13

split beacon
#

maybe

ebon forge
#

What are the stakes gonna be in Paradisio

cosmic gorge
#

library

#

Library is Paradiso, trust

faint pivot
#

Unrelated: I can't help but feel like the ||glitched Malkuth ability was caused by the Index fucking up the flow||

#

||The whole plan was noted to be by Rien after all||

ebon forge
faint pivot
ebon forge
#

Given that that’s our current sinner’s S3s…

ebon forge
faint pivot
#

Also that's just clash power

#

Like okay

#

This is futzing with how exactly a personhood is spread between the combat stats but

ebon forge
#

Yeah but I’m just noting that we’re growing hella fast now

faint pivot
#

Okay that's true

#

Perhaps too fast with uh, that "minor" glitch

ebon forge
#

And given that we do get IDs for SoTCs (Caposault) and EGO / Shin being options now…

#

And Caposault clashing for 30 on S3-2

#

Yeah there’ll be a a possibility that we get IDs on the level of grade 1s

ebon forge
#

GOOD LORD

cosmic gorge
#

Huuh

cloud wadi
#

Ishmael…

faint pivot
#

Rodya...

ebon forge
#

thinking about the nursefathers

#

i think matthias is like

#

Potential Dad

#

deadass

#

dude needs to make Kira his Special Interest and boom

#

perfect dad material, right there, lmao

faint pivot
#

That'll presumably only happen if Ryoshu permanently dies unfortunately

ebon forge
#

yeah sadly

faint pivot
#

Actually hrm

ebon forge
#

I hope it ends up with Virgilius adopting them all or something silly like that

#

i really hope Ryoshu crashes tf out and somehow her blade cuts into their "bad sides" or something

#

and makes them realize the weight of their own actions

#

but yeah right as if

faint pivot
#

Have any of the bluman cantos had good endings

ebon forge
#

lets see...

faint pivot
#

Yi Sang's is bittersweet more than anything

ebon forge
#

i think hong's is like

#

the only true good ending rn?

faint pivot
#

Ish is close but yesh

ebon forge
#

ishmael's too, actually

faint pivot
#

Ish is second purely because Ahab is an ass

ebon forge
#

but i feel like ishmael's is also, not quite the same kinda "good" we're looking for

faint pivot
#

True yea

ebon forge
#

her story isnt complete either

#

only hong's is a closed good ending

#

Ahab is still alive, afterall, with N Corp fucking around

faint pivot
#

I meaan

#

It's not exactly closed

ebon forge
#

yeah ik, but i mean in terms of like

#

idfk how to say it

faint pivot
#

Personal ties?

#

I get what you mean either way

ebon forge
#

and yeah

#

kindaaaa?

faint pivot
#

Stakes being addressed?

ebon forge
#

yeah

#

basically

#

ishmael's current story arc is over but theres some plot points needing resolving (ahab, n corp, mostly)

#

complete enough

#

heathcliff, his story goes onnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn

#

and its sad

#

hongler's is the only one where i dont see his story having those "open" points of conflict

#

everything would have to be someone new, basically

cloud wadi
#

You know

#

I realize now that ||sora nitpicking Kira’s comics was probably her trying to engage with Kira||

ebon forge
#

huh

#

autism to overadjusted communication

#

also

#

wait

#

that means they did indeed read through the comics

#

and enough to make a critique of it

cloud wadi
#

Yeah

#

That was her attempting to engage with Kira and sharing her hobbies

#

Kira just never noticed because as middle members she literally can’t take any criticism

ebon forge
#

the middle is kinda moronic for that imo

#

like

#

i get it

#

you wanna beat the shit outta rude shits

#

and i agree

cloud wadi
#

I’m of the opinion that middle actually is the worst syndicate

#

For a variety of reasons

ebon forge
#

but you gotta learn to take the l sometimes

cloud wadi
#

Like yeah they are funny

#

But I consider them the worst for everyone around them

ebon forge
#

i think if the middle had a better threshold for their actions

#

they would be actually pretty chill

#

like

cloud wadi
#

Nah for me it’s also that

ebon forge
#

world's craziest lawyers who beat you up with chains while sharing a blunt together?

cloud wadi
#

They actually do understand love and loyalty and kindness and friendship

#

They just actively refuse to show it

#

Which makes them more morally bankrupt than other fingers in my eyes

ebon forge
#

mmmm

cloud wadi
#

At least others genuinely are insanely devoted to their one principle

ebon forge
#

and the index runs off pure faith

#

which means really

cloud wadi
#

Index have no morality nor do they pretend to it

ebon forge
#

non of them are morally "wrong", so to say

cloud wadi
#

Middle will preach to you about righteousness and justice

#

While killing you for spilling ice cream

ebon forge
#

yeah

cosmic gorge
#

Also incapable of taking criticism

cloud wadi
#

Thumb will kill you for being impolite but they are internally consistent and apply their own standard to themselves (even if the standards are insane)

#

The middle won’t

cosmic gorge
#

Uhh
We dont know much about pinky still no

ebon forge
#

the pinky just do their own shit

#

and then they're like

#

"btw get together we got shit to do"

#

and then they do the shit

#

and

#

the rest is whatever, lmao

cloud wadi
#

It’s noted to have been quite a while since the last time a caucus was called

#

I guess last time it was called was during ruina

ebon forge
#

also, they're "good" enough for jia qiu to stay, so they're probably not morally bankrupt in a way

cloud wadi
#

Jia Qiu claims that pinky is founded on humanistic principles

cosmic gorge
#

Whatever that means atm

ebon forge
#

he's probably not wrong

#

probably

#

i mean he's strong enough to talk to like, what

#

wing leaders and shit

cloud wadi
#

Yeah he’s doing his own politics n

#

I’m guessing he’s angling to call a new pinkie caucus

ebon forge
#

hmmmmm

#

he could probably

cloud wadi
#

Apparently the Palm is an in universe conspiracy theory

#

That the fingers are in fact controlled by a single organization

#

I normally would of course laugh at such silly claims

ebon forge
#

i feel like it could be true though

cloud wadi
#

But then valencina mentioned that Central branch of fingers exist

ebon forge
#

which is funny

cloud wadi
#

And the idea suddenly seemed a lot more believable

ebon forge
#

mmm

cloud wadi
#

Would be a lot easier to manage just five central branches all located within abc corp territories

atomic steeple
faint pivot
faint pivot
#

TIL

atomic steeple
atomic steeple
atomic steeple
atomic steeple
atomic steeple
#

I really want ryoshu to call her sister

atomic steeple
atomic steeple
atomic steeple
atomic steeple
atomic steeple
faint pivot
stoic fjord
#

||I think if they weren't literally fucking homeless and poor they'd be a decently high up SotC tier||

jaunty jay
#

too good and it would probably risk trouble from more prosthetic focused corps.

cloud wadi
#

So it makes sense that they are cracked compared to most

#

I doubt that all of the blade lineage is so skilled

#

The way they are described seem to imply they are pretty varied in skill

#

With Kim’s faction being just weirdly skilled

cosmic gorge
#

there's other blade lineage groups out there?

cosmic gorge
stoic fjord
atomic steeple
#

Ah shi don has no shine in her eyes

#

... Why does she have no count

stoic fjord
atomic steeple
#

Shi don

faint pivot
faint pivot
#

Within their respective nest, corps seem to have total monopoly in their own field

cloud wadi
#

When Bl scattered from S Corp they went in every which direction

faint pivot
#

Aha

cloud wadi
#

So stands to reason not everyone followed Kim specifically

faint pivot
#

We just happened upon a sliver

#

Ok ok

cloud wadi
#

And some of the BL ids don’t talk about Kim or his equivalent as a leader

#

(Outis is the leader of her chapter I think)

#

Though she’s not a mentor

stoic fjord
#

I need to see all of the Nursefathers dead by the end of this Canto or I will riot

cloud wadi
#

That is what has been promised

#

Obliteration of the spider’s house

stoic fjord
#

The contract must be fulfilled

cloud wadi
#

Company has so far kept its promise

#

So far

stoic fjord
cloud wadi
#

No worries

#

Will of the prescript will guide us down the flow

#

Unerring

#

Inevitable

#

Ordained

#

This is why the index nursefather is pissing Ryoshu off

#

To incite destruction upon the rot of the spider’s house

stoic fjord
atomic steeple
cloud wadi
#

Sora though deserves ice cream

stoic fjord
cloud wadi
#

Even though ||she did totally murder ravi||

stoic fjord
#

I think that the apprentices are going to be the only ones affiliated with the spider house besides Ryoshu who survive this Canto

#

Or at least, some of the apprentices

cloud wadi
#

We are just not ||gonna talk about Ravi’s untimely demise||

atomic steeple
#

Don needs to romance sora
Go for every sinner's little sister
Gregor: But my sister is dead, so she doesn't count. Right? ... Right?

cloud wadi
stoic fjord
cloud wadi
#

She’s like a clicker trained puppy, yes

stoic fjord
cloud wadi
#

I’m not even certain if her prescripts are real

stoic fjord
#

The uptie got me thinking they're not

faint pivot
cloud wadi
#

That she’s ||getting her prescripts on a device is very odd||

#

||it might just be Rien giving her fake prescripts||

#

Especially since unlike most prescripts ||it immediately tells her whether she got it right or wrong||

stoic fjord
#

I like to think that ||Sora and Kira could be friends in a world where they aren't part of the Spider House. If they weren't affected by shitty parents and being treated as secondary and lesser||

cloud wadi
#

||she doesn’t even get a sword, only thing she has is a closk||

#

||and you know who else is conspicuously missing his index cloak?||

stoic fjord
cloud wadi
#

Yeah

#

So what if ||Rien is just conning Sora into thinking she’s a proxy when she’s not||

stoic fjord
#

||I wonder why Rien hasn't been executed or smth by the prescripts yet||

cloud wadi
#

I dunnow maybe because|| he’s a SotC by himself or because he’s upholding the will of the prescript who knows||

stoic fjord
atomic steeple
cloud wadi
#

Anyways

faint pivot
#

They had the opportunity to choose but didn't exactly had a better alternative

cloud wadi
#

We are gonna need a palate cleanser after this canto

#

So the next intervallo better be quirky

stoic fjord
stoic fjord
cloud wadi
#

Yeah index doesn’t punish you for not following the prescript or otherwise betraying it

#

It’s got its more esoteric criteria’s

atomic steeple
cloud wadi
#

At her current state ||Ryoshu is more likely to deliver total extermination than kindness to any obstacle in her oath||

stoic fjord
#

Much can happen in part 3

cloud wadi
#

Will ||Jamila survive part 3||

#

Methinks we will fight actual index proselytes next part

stoic fjord
cloud wadi
#

Btw

#

How crazy is it that LCE facility is apparently ||KILOMETERS WIDE||

faint pivot
#

I wonder if we'll get to see any of the ||Ring NF's students, if any. I'm curious how Students of the Corpolist school go||

faint pivot
cloud wadi
#

It’s an underground facility

faint pivot
#

And then some on the shore too

cloud wadi
#

That’s kilometers wide

faint pivot
#

I'd sure hope it is what with how many fuckers we found it to house!

#

I wouldn't be surprised if LobCorp HQ was like, depicted to be unfathomably large in comparison were it not built on a budget from a failed kickstarter

cloud wadi
#

That’s bigger than the Cheyenne mountain complex!

#

That’s an absurd amount of space lmfao

cloud wadi
faint pivot
cloud wadi
#

I’d say it’s about the size of daguanyuan tbh

#

It towers over everything else in L nest

atomic steeple
#

Also limbus has space tech

cloud wadi
#

Eh true

#

LCE is probably in a pocket dimension or something

faint pivot
cloud wadi
#

Only reachable through wayfare Corp tech

#

The Elevators

faint pivot
tawdry mural
worthy haven
dusty sigil
stoic fjord
fickle crown
#

The Sancho succ maneuver

#

Yummy HP

#

Her base EGO is such a clutch tool

stoic fjord
#

Outis and Rodion got me acting up

quaint cliff
#

-# @1ofAgnesDigital

dusty sigil
split beacon
#

sloth

#

ANYTHING but training

cosmic gorge
stoic fjord
crimson spindle
#

also subtly rocking the highest heels

#

faust and rodion are close but I think slightly shorter

stoic fjord
fickle crown
tired canyon
split beacon
#

ah yes

#

the 7 centipede souls

dusty sigil
# tired canyon

“No, you’re supposed to obey me!”

The 7 centipede souls

dusty sigil
quaint cliff
#

clear within 10 turns
you’re shitting me

tired canyon
#

we are here to test

#

how much you REALLY want to see yoshihide's story

eternal gull
#

that was good

#

I was looking for that one

#

I have... 2 identities for don quixote...

uneven canopy
#

regular donqui and monitoring donqui

stoic fjord
split beacon
#

having a Volatile EGO ID as one of your starting IDs to play with is actually mad funny I think

#

forget vanilla Limbus Company mechanics we're going straight to the advanced concepts

gentle mulch
#

We're skipping straight to thermodynamics fuck algebra

worthy haven
#

Tbf the don id is fairly straightforward to use I feel

#

I am lamenting the 5 shards I need for ut4 xd

#

Early season pain

split beacon
#

I guess if you have constant SP heal just by birthright it's like

#

yeah

worthy haven
#

Ye

split beacon
#

that does simplify things

worthy haven
#

Canto 9 spoiler ||I do think it's funny that they went with yellow harpoon instead of like yellow stinger||

eternal gull
worthy haven
# eternal gull

Oh btw uh for the uptie story of that don id I would skip it and read it once you reach canto 9

eternal gull
#

Its fine I know about it alr

#

While I havent watched anything of it I have a vague understanding of the concepts

keen palm
#

Have you guys noticed that all the Beastmen/Monsters of the outskirts we've seen so far all seem to ttie to an Abnormality

split beacon
#

Have they?

#

I don’t know that the sheepmen we heard about in sheep don’s uptie are related to any abnos

atomic steeple
# eternal gull well

Cool. So what ids and ego you have?
Don seems like a good poise id and can be used for sinking

atomic steeple
keen palm
# split beacon Have they?

Well the Gnomes seem to be related to Sandolph, and the Cuckoo Spawn seem to be related to Apocalypse Bird

split beacon
#

Oh like purely the ones we’ve gotten eyes on

keen palm
#

Yeah

#

The ones we have actually physically seen

atomic steeple
#

Well, we sandolph is an aberration of rudolta, that seems to represent a general vibe of not getting the same joy others have on christmas

#

Actually, the birds and christmas abnos kinda touh on the same theme of the city itself, I think?

#

For the gnomes, the city shuns them and keeps its resources to itself, plus the way the city exploits the outskirts.

#

So the giant and the gnomes started taking it out on humans shunned by the city while opportunistically also attacking city humans. Then they'd make presents for their fellow mosnters

tired canyon
#

....

I have to kill the pinky

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MAKE SPACE I AM JOINING THE JUMPING SQUAD

atomic steeple
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The birds are weird

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The abnos represent the head that sought to protect humanity but became a threat upon it

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while the cuckoo spawn, as we know them, may be a threat but don't seem like a big problem in the outskirts? At least from what I know.

keen palm
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Well they seem like they'd instantly wipe out any human settlement

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And it was enough of a threat that the Head sent more to deal with them than they did to deal with the Library

atomic steeple
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Oh true

keen palm
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Like significantly more

bronze zephyr
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Sorry I’m still reeling over don’s uptie story mentioning ||procuration ego and the gods of the city||

atomic steeple
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But it's abit odd we only see them once.

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The cuckospawn may have been supressed in the outskirts due to their sheer multiplication

eternal berry
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You know

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I reckon the cuckoo spawn are significantly less dangerous in places where they can’t explosively multiply

keen palm
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It still says a lot about the Head's allocation of forces

split beacon
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Compared to an absurdly dense city

bronze zephyr
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It’s possible abnos are from the collective unconscious and that that collective unconscious includes all sentient beings not just humans? But

split beacon
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Where one escaped specimen could cause an absolute shitstorm

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(Hence the need to surround and contain them with an overwhelming force)

bronze zephyr
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Yeaaaah