Project Moon Games: Lobcorp, Ruina, Etc.

[ebon forge]

EGO usually takes on that form though i thought

[split beacon]

EGO is usually weapons and armour

Having EGO that leans into layering over the human body and extending it indicates volatility

[neat cedar]

she's an ego that is said to be

almost like a distoetion

[mystic ermine]

Right, she does lose SP on use
and only regains it via Prescripts

[split beacon]

Also, Procurement behaves as a volatile EGO

[fluid whale]

it is explicitly effloresced

[lean fjord]

got pretty close on my first try on 9-30

[split beacon]

It’s effloresced sure

[lean fjord]

||probably should have just tanked more with Ryoshu ||

[split beacon]

But it’s like a volatile ego

Has the mechanics of one

And is said to be close to a Distortion in nature

[fluid whale]

Fair, it is a lot more like waxen pinion than spicebush

[neat cedar]

mhmm

sje could.eventually.learm.to.better comtrol.it

[fluid whale]

well, she could

she's literally in shackles and chains and being raised by Rien

[stoic fjord]

new rental is interesting

[fluid whale]

that does not seem like a great environment to figure out your deeply held convictions and strengthen them against what the world throws at you

[split beacon]

Who got the “we are fucking under attack” image with Hohenheim

[neat cedar]

next intervallo

apprentice raisingvsim

apprentice rehab

[neat cedar]

indeed it does not amd yet

even innthe end

[split beacon]

Oh also they actually gotta nerf 9-33 unfortunately

[neat cedar]

she holds true to them

really?

how come?

i made it happen with under leveled units

[split beacon]

||Right now, Bladetrail can stagger your units after a skill that isnt able to stagger deals a ton of damage||

[neat cedar]

people dued but it wasn't that bad

ah

i did notice that

i think tgat's less a nerf

and more a bug

[split beacon]

It’s more of a fix

But it will make Shiomi a lot less dangerous lol

[neat cedar]

but ye the fights hace been

rather easy

purposefully so

[split beacon]

It’s ok part 3 will have a Lei Heng tier wall

[neat cedar]

real

i feel.it

[ebon forge]

i really wanna make a duihuan star edit

[dusty sigil]

I finished part 2

Holy fuck

[gentle mulch]

Two EX Clears in one part oh boy

i hope part 3 has more

[gentle mulch]

https://tenor.com/view/vergil-opening-gif-26108052

[dusty sigil]

Also holy shit

||Rien fucking terrifies me||

[ebon forge]

i love this

[dusty sigil]

||the calm face and carrying demeanor as he inflicts perhaps the cruelest possible act to Ryoshu||

||Im absolutely sure that he’s the one who commissioned the Hell Screen, whatever form it takes in this game||

[gentle mulch]

worst to ever do it

DIES BADELY

[atomic steeple]

Fake, sora is kept in a lonely room and knows she will be kicked out for ryoshu

[ebon forge]

||https://www.rxddit.com/r/limbuscompany/comments/1q7cmli/hey_manager_bud_please_tell_me_youre_not_what_i/||

[split beacon]

||Rien: treats his daughter like a coworker and a tool||
||Ring Nursefather: treats their daughter like a fellow artist||
||Matthias: treats his daughter like his younger sister||
||the boy-moms: WE LOVE VERBAL/PHYSICAL ABUSE||

[ebon forge]

matthias, yo

[split beacon]

MY NAME IS MATTHIAS, YO

[stoic fjord]

||everything else was Jewish/Christian though, so I'm not sure on this one||

[ebon forge]

make ricardo into the caretaker, yo

[neat cedar]

henshould

[stoic fjord]

||maybe Dark Days is something more lovecraftian in contrast to Whitenight's angelic vibes||

[mystic ermine]

What are we talkling about?
I laid on my bed and my cat kidnapped me to schlobber over my face

[mystic ermine]

Ah

I see now

[atomic steeple]

Don thighs

[lean fjord]

alright, second try on 9-30 went much more smoothly

thank you Ryoshu for facetanking several hundred damage for me

[eternal berry]

lmao

[dusty sigil]

Also, finding out ||Kim is apart of the LCD is awesome||

||Its so funny how this general reception in LOR has come so far||

||Even if I know it’s because they wanted to make him a normal reception originally||

[stoic fjord]

||from general reception to fan favorite||

[dusty sigil]

||I always loved Kim though||

||+2 to all slash dice carried me far||

[cloud wadi]

I do think like

||we are gonna kill Rien, and Sora will become a recurring threat||

||Same with Kira, who probably would join Ricardo’s crew||

[dusty sigil]

||truly I’m wondering how we’re even gonna fight the other nursefathers||

[cloud wadi]

||there’s a spot for a capo in eastern thumb for Lucio ||

Yeah they are, uh

[dusty sigil]

||Like, we barely survived against Dihui Star||

||and that’s with her not trying to perma kill any of us||

||because they need Ryoshu back||

[cloud wadi]

Honestly I’m not even sure if ||Dihui Star was actually fighting us or if we were fighting a projection of her||

[dusty sigil]

||yah her passives did kinda imply that, and her weird static effect||

||it could be a mirror of her, like how we summoned mirrors of the sinners||

[cloud wadi]

What with those weird ||digital aliasing effect||

[split beacon]

It does seem to be that she’s like

[eternal berry]

Her ||afterimage entanglement|| reminds me of T. Corp's Singularity in multiple ways

[split beacon]

Overlaid and entangled with her afterimages?

[dusty sigil]

Also, I wonder if ||Ryoshu will have any sympathy for the apprentices||

||they are in her shoes after all||

[cloud wadi]

Also I wonder what|| Malkuth’s sephira effect would actually be in gameplay terms since this is just a hint||

[dusty sigil]

||all abused and groomed by the house into tools for them||

[eternal berry]

Maybe it operates on some similar principles, ||entangling time and light|| somehow

[cloud wadi]

Ability to change ids mid battle?

[dusty sigil]

I’m thinking that too

Since ||the summons were explicitly identities||

Also I wonder if ||we’re still getting a new power this canto||

||the Ryoshu Gebura parallels are still there||

[cloud wadi]

Anyways I appreciate that Malkuth is now confirmed to be the queen of the world we should give all our mortal possessions to

[dusty sigil]

Also shit, the dialogue Dante has

||that kinda implies Dante is an apostle||

||and not the king||

||Ryoshu even mentions that it’s not 12||

[cloud wadi]

Maybe ||Beatrice is the king||

[dusty sigil]

Also cool to see ||the person the Outis ID is actually based off||

[gentle mulch]

||my crackpot theory is that pre clock Dante will have plans for the LCB that post clock dante will betray||

[neat cedar]

||I can't really imagine a fight where that would be super useful ||

||unless it comes with like, a revive?||

[cloud wadi]

It probably would come with a full revive yeah

[dusty sigil]

||also man, Faust is being really shady this canto||

||more then usual anyway||

||I really do wonder, I know our journey has been planned out in advance, but I wonder how much Faust personally knows about the fates of the people around us||

||she seemed caught off guard by our sudden unlocking of a new power and remorseful that’d it’d lead to Hohenheim or Marton’s death||

[atomic steeple]

Faust did tell her to save rather than kill

[atomic steeple]

That or use all 12 at once

[atomic steeple]

Beatrice final boss

[keen palm]

Okay NOW I beat the final boss

[atomic steeple]

Great, you can add to the discussion

[eternal gull]

is there any tips for beginners

I dont really play gatcha games to begin with and I cant decide between reserving all my currency shit or spending it on attempting to get ids I cant guarantee or just builds to begin with when I dont have diddle squat to work with

[keen palm]

Once you've built a decent team you are kinda set for most content

[eternal gull]

so uh

about that

lack of ids to build a team with

[keen palm]

I would genuinely recommend just buying the battlepass, since it'll let you farm basically an ID per every week or two

And you'll be gettting double the shards over the course of 6 months

[eternal gull]

im against spending where I can help it

[ebon forge]

its a gacha, frankly

[eternal gull]

Well yeah

[ebon forge]

reasonably speaking, if you get the battlepass, it gives you sufficient ability to grind out entire seasons worth of content

i grinded literally all of season 6 through the bp, and most of season 4

[keen palm]

It's absurdly generous and will cut the need for you to ever buy rolls

[ebon forge]

yeah

getting the bp for $11 is the only logical thing, imo

[keen palm]

I see it as buying the DLC for the new chapter

[split beacon]

Getting the battle pass is absurdly the most efficient way to spend a little bit of money on Limbus and get back wayyyy more value than any other way of buying stuff in the game

But you’re looking for new player advice

[eternal gull]

yeah 😭

[split beacon]

For now, focus on clearing story nodes and use the Lunacy to do some pulls to fish up some IDs you can use

[ebon forge]

personally i recommend focusing on sharding season 4's sinking team

[eternal gull]

new player advice: spend money

😭

[split beacon]

Nah nah

That’s separate

[eternal gull]

honestly mostly just hung up on spending lunacy tbh

[split beacon]

That advice is never spend money on Limbus Company except the battle pass if you want it

[eternal gull]

yeah

[split beacon]

Anyways back to the point

[eternal gull]

dont get me wrong

love the people behind Pmoon

wouldnt feel bad for it

but its also money, I need it

[split beacon]

Lunacy: you don’t need to save it right now more than you need to get a starting team pulled together

[stoic fjord]

the main thing is that some of the base LCB sinner IDs are actually really solid

but also some are stinkers

[ebon forge]

also, the thing is, the grind is like, 3.5x worse without it lol

[stoic fjord]

iirc LCB Heathcliff and Ryoshu are good

but like

yeah just do like

10 pulls

until you have enough for your team of 5

[split beacon]

Sure but The Grind doesn’t start until you’re finished story content anyways lol

[eternal gull]

Doesnt matter how fast I finish the game

and frankly

im only interested in the story

[split beacon]

It doesn’t speed up the story anyways

[stoic fjord]

I personally only had to get like 40 pulls in before I had enough for a functional team

[split beacon]

My recommendation is to reevaluate if you want it or not after you’re done the story content lol

[eternal gull]

im just being blocked by my shitty team gettings its ass kicked by story node enemies

[split beacon]

Back to actual new player advice tho

[stoic fjord]

1st of all

are you fully leveled

[eternal gull]

no

[stoic fjord]

if you are not fully leveled you will lose every clash and everything will kill you

do not be under level cap

or else you will suffer a million Hopeless clashes

[eternal gull]

I do have some extra tickets sitting around from W-corp event

[split beacon]

Get some ding dang IDs, never do one-pulls only ten-pulls, level your sinners, do your dailies Dante

[stoic fjord]

this tbh

get some IDs, so like, I'd recommend maybe 40 or 50 ten pulls?

wait

no

[eternal gull]

yeye
-# is ding dang the actual name of the faction 😭

[stoic fjord]

4 or 5

[split beacon]

Open red crates on sight and yellow crates only once you’ve decided what you want to shard

[stoic fjord]

not 40 or 50 lmao

[stoic fjord]

Tingtang Gang

[stoic fjord]

also yeah

only 10 pulls

if you 1 pull you're wasting lunacy

[split beacon]

I was just saying “ding dang” as filler words

[eternal gull]

ye

[stoic fjord]

because it doesn't guarantee 00s

[split beacon]

If you’re gonna shard a team right now shard fuckin

[eternal gull]

I was gonna say

[cloud wadi]

Next showcase is… tomorrow methinks

[split beacon]

Sinking probably

[cloud wadi]

Will it be index father

[stoic fjord]

and 00s are either solid enough for early game or absolute shit but get you shards

[cloud wadi]

Thumb father

Pinkie father

[split beacon]

Bolth

It’ll be a double banner and it’ll be two Nursefathers

[stoic fjord]

new sinking season

[cloud wadi]

All five fathers at once

[split beacon]

Or one Nursefather and their apprentice

[atomic steeple]

I played without ever spending
Just takes a long ass time
See what you get from the new player tickets and start a team from there

[split beacon]

Oh also you can spend a little Lunacy on Enkephalin refills

[true bluff]

Also, don't rush the game.

[split beacon]

You get your Lunacy back when spending it to do more story nodes

[true bluff]

Don't be afraid to just let time pass and build up your team with whatever you get from the free BP, the story isn't going anywhere.

you're not going to miss anything, just have a week or two where you log in, do dailies and the weekly MD's and just be done with it

[stoic fjord]

no more than 2 per day

[split beacon]

But yeah don’t rush too hard, if you’re under levelled and can’t scrape tickets together just do yer dailies for a little and/or get a Support from a friend

[stoic fjord]

and also probably better to wait than to spend

[stoic fjord]

I personally would not recommend supports as hard

just because they will completely trivialize encounters due to being twice the level

[atomic steeple]

What ids and egos do you have?

[true bluff]

hell it's more beneficial to WAIT for events and then do story for that, as you'll get event currency which you can spend to get more materials

[eternal gull]

would tell you but I havent updated the game in a little while

[eternal gull]

yeah

I joined during the Wcorp event and was just gathering shit from that to spend in the event store

[true bluff]

it's what I Do, sure I miss out on getting Hard mirror dungeon for a bit but that's such a nothing burger, that it'll be fine

[eternal gull]

-# also caught the tailend of arknights but I was busy at the time

[stoic fjord]

arknights is why I'm poor now btw

[true bluff]

I thought you were poor now because you kept rolling

[stoic fjord]

I genuinely dropped like, 400 pulls and had to grind nonstop in the last week to get to the 400th

[stoic fjord]

no

I've done a total of like

30 little treat pulls total

I genuinely am quite good with saving

[eternal gull]

why ryoshu out here lookin like carmen

[atomic steeple]

Also, whichever team you decide to build, you can ask here what are the important units

[stoic fjord]

Arknights was the first time I spent a major amount

[stoic fjord]

but don't build tremor /hj

[stoic fjord]

of lunacy, I mean

I didn't drop actual money

not that I wasn't tempted

but

I just barely got all Arknights E.G.O

[atomic steeple]

Teams are usually defined by the status they use
But envy resonance exists as team, though is works well with the charge ststus

[atomic steeple]

Thank gods

[keen palm]

I did a single ten pull on the banner

https://i.imgur.com/zmUaLBj.jpeg

hohouehuheuheuhuehuehuehuehuehu

[stoic fjord]

I mean,

I would have if I wasn't scheduled to make it

[eternal gull]

lucky bastard

half the reason im lookign to play is for that id ngl

if you cant tell I like don quixote

[true bluff]

you can shard it in...what a week? or two?

[stoic fjord]

but I didn't, because I had just enough that I got the last 10 pull for 200 ideality before the banner disappeared

[stoic fjord]

sharding requires MD grinding

which is not very feasible if your teams are not good

[split beacon]

also MD grinding is not an option right now?

[atomic steeple]

I wanted to build charge, but index tempts me

[stoic fjord]

they did say in a week or two

which, by then, it will be

[true bluff]

wait it's not an option? what do you mean

[stoic fjord]

battlepass locked until the fifteenth

maxes at level 40 rn

[true bluff]

OH

that is what you mean

[stoic fjord]

the next 80 come next week

[split beacon]

you can't get gold boxes until the battle pass EX level is available

[true bluff]

I was sitting here playing MD going "but wait am I gonna get rewards???"

so it's again, another "Just chill, take it slow, no rush."

limbus company is a time to win game, as in the more time you put into it, the more you get out.

[stoic fjord]

but also 11 dollars makes the time you need to put into it as a completionist get slashed in 3

[true bluff]

in the future.

[stoic fjord]

yeah

GM isn't playing to be a completionist anyways

whereas people like me and carmen are out here trying to get everything

which

godddd I hope there's never another true limited

[true bluff]

if there is, you don't pull

it's fomo

[eternal gull]

I just want story

:3

[stoic fjord]

nope

I do

[true bluff]

you gotta kick that habit

[stoic fjord]

because I need everything that I can play with

and I'm willing to bet on impossible odds

[stoic fjord]

so long as it doesn't make me suffer or extract money from me it's fine

the only reason I was tempted to spend on arknights was because I was 180/200 ideality with one E.G.O left

in literally any other scenario I would've cut my losses and gone back to saving

[true bluff]

weren't you stressed out of your mind in that situation??

[stoic fjord]

yeah but I'm stressed out of my mind like

all the time

24/7

[true bluff]

...stressed, worse.

[stoic fjord]

no matter what I do or don't do

[stoic fjord]

not any worse than most days

[true bluff]

hm fair enough

[stoic fjord]

like, yeah, it put me on the higher end of the scale, but so does sleeping on the wrong side of my bed before a completely normal day and having a slightly less than ideal morning

[eternal gull]

but uh

thank you for all the help everyone <3

may your rolls be forever in your favour

[stoic fjord]

anyways yeah basically just don't worry about saving lunacy until you're done with the story/fairly deep in

[eternal gull]

and unlike me some day actually land on don quixote (I literally cannot get a quixote id for the life of me)

[stoic fjord]

level everyone to at least close to level cap, maybe 2 levels under

[eternal gull]

yeah

[true bluff]

no, go to the cap

if you can, just do it

[stoic fjord]

yeah true

[true bluff]

genuinely, just cap them.

[stoic fjord]

it's not like spending the day's lunacy on ticketlux once or twice will make you unable to play

[true bluff]

same with EGO's, if you can

[stoic fjord]

E.G.Os you just need TS 2 to use effectively ime

[true bluff]

I think you need T3 for the passive

[stoic fjord]

don't bother past that until like, MD or you're really stuck

[stoic fjord]

nope

TS2

[cloud wadi]

Once again the will of the prescript aligns with your own

[keen palm]

btw

the boss I thought was the final boss was not the final boss

[stoic fjord]

ngl

this canto so far

while a bit tough

has also felt

unnervingly easy for the most part

like

like there's no way Part 3 doesn't hit us with

the biggest fucking wall ever

[gentle mulch]

ohhh

thats why theres so much fucking uhh

abno fights

we got a new lux set

[cloud wadi]

Yes

And they are fucking bastards

[gentle mulch]

they will surely pale in the face of my swapinator build

[dusty sigil]

Chatroom, do you think fate is real in the city?

That the great flow is true?

[stoic fjord]

it's demonstrably real aiui

not like, defined and unbreakable

but the flow of fate is a thing

[dusty sigil]

I mean, Iori has seen other timelines

Where things played out differently

[stoic fjord]

flow travels differently there, I imagine

[cloud wadi]

Flow doesn’t seem to like, care about the details

Generally it seems to care more about certain events

Rather than individuals

[gentle mulch]

the possibility of getting like 2 + 1 + 2 You Branch Flurries in a single turn excites me

[cloud wadi]

Like “red mist will exist”

[gentle mulch]

go my attack weight

[cloud wadi]

Not necessarily “Kali will become the red mist”

[dusty sigil]

Wait did Iori say somewhere that there’s another red mist in another timeline?

[stoic fjord]

I think that was just an example

[dusty sigil]

Ah

Fair enough

[stoic fjord]

So uh

Looking back at my crack predictions

We really had no fucking idea how any of this was gonna go, huh?

[dusty sigil]

Absolutely not no

All of your theories are wrong

Goodbye

I was really in on it taking place during the finger bow bell

[cloud wadi]

She also did train Kali so

[dusty sigil]

Oh yah

Huh

[cloud wadi]

Highly likely Kali becomes red mist in other mirror worlds lmao

[ebon forge]

should i go for 300 by next week...

hmmmmmmmmmmm

[gentle mulch]

so far ryoshu hasnt distorted and gone team killing yet sigh

[dusty sigil]

I mean

There’s always next part

[cloud wadi]

I think she’s like ||five seconds from distorting at any given moment||

[gentle mulch]

SIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGH

[cloud wadi]

It’s uh

[dusty sigil]

||part 2 ends with her the most emotionally damaged she’s ever been||

||maybe her entire life||

[cloud wadi]

Like

[dusty sigil]

||she was unconscious for four days due to shock alone||

[cloud wadi]

The thing she believed to be absolutely true

Turned out to be false

That’s like step one of distorting

[dusty sigil]

Yah that’s like

The way to distort

Especially when that truth was the thing she hinged her entire life on

[cloud wadi]

I’m guessing ||her memories aren’t exactly accurate||

Like even the parts she can remember

Not just the parts she can’t

[dusty sigil]

||her daughter being safe from the house of spiders was seemingly, the only reason she’s doing anything||

[cloud wadi]

It’s missing context

[dusty sigil]

||because she knew at least she’d eventually get her daughter back||

[cloud wadi]

Her belief ||in her sword is also weong||

She thought ||whatever she cut with her sword was permanent damage, which is why she was so shocked when pinkie father started talking||

[dusty sigil]

Yah

||Carmen must be looking at Ryoshu like a juicy steak rn||

||In the span of a few minutes she just had all the beliefs she thought she was certain on and that held up her current life shattered||

||and now she’s about to confront the reason for her life being like this||

[atomic steeple]

Man the ego gear in lob corp is cool

If it wasn't hell to play I'd ger it

[stoic fjord]

When the finger bowbell actually happens

That shall be when yuri heng makes her appearance

[dusty sigil]

Don’t worry she’s in the house of spiders right now

Also like, ||kinda interesting to see that the nursefathers didn’t seem to choose to be nursefathers||

||but rather the fingers sending older seemingly retired higher ups to raise Ryoshu||

From @ c_kingdodo

[stoic fjord]

Part 2 spoilers

||So, with the incomplete Malkuth manifestation of Durante... do we think that maybe Gebura resonance will happen in part 3?||

[dusty sigil]

I think so yah

[atomic steeple]

Dark day ego: Hell Found

[lean fjord]

actually got down Dihui Blade first try, yay

she did kill like half my team, but Heishou stay winning

[dusty sigil]

Ehh they’re Heishou

They’re made to die

Also man chat, I hope the next intervallo has an Ishmael focus

We haven’t really had a lot of focus on her in a bit

[neat cedar]

||That bit is misdirection, i think||

[atomic steeple]

Cute fic from part 1
https://archiveofourown.org/works/77271031

[dusty sigil]

The last intervallo where she was a major player was LCB check up with her and Heathcliff’s rivalry really flaring up there

And their repeated ragebait attempts

[neat cedar]

||Though also might just be sheblied at the startz i think Dihui managed a work around and said that purely to break her||

also man

||That scene with the safe is still hitting me||

||Not a parent but i've had a similar instance of realizing a failure to protect a love one from.the world and it eas so fuckin infuriating and disempowering||

[crimson spindle]

||very much based on the themes of the works she's based on, ryoshu is going to have to confront what the point of existing is if everything you were clinging to is burned away||

||In one version the artist becomes inspired and continues onward as a successful person, if a real nasty piece of work
in the other the artist hangs himself||

[neat cedar]

||Mhmmm, i also.think that she's gonna have to save the apprentices still.jn some.way because they all seem to be suffering||

||She has to find the Courage to Protect||

[atomic steeple]

Faust said it
Save, not kill

[stoic fjord]

not at all canon compliant but also peak and I love it

[gentle mulch]

https://tenor.com/view/half-life-half-life-3-hope-syringe-half-life-2-gif-4595866055848966717

[atomic steeple]

I think ryoshu will think ||her daughter is gone and will lose it and need to be dragged back.
Then she will be kind to the apprentices, who help her discover her daughter can still be saved||

||And break the web the house spun, forcing a better ending||

[gentle mulch]

||i think ryoshu will be on the verge of killing the apprentices and see her daughter and go ooooohhhhhhhhhhh the cycle of violence ohhhhhhhhhhhhh ohhhhhhhhhhhhh ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh and love world will happen||

[stoic fjord]

I do think things will end in a way that isn't like

good

but also I do have hope for the outcome

[dusty sigil]

||Based off the other story Ryoshu is based off, there is the possibility she cuts off the spider’s string out of hell because of the other people also trying to escape||

[gentle mulch]

||and then sinclair will get another mark lmao||

i also have mixed feelings leaning positive on the gimmick of easier fights but less sinners

[dusty sigil]

||Sinclair is currently the quiet MVP of this canto||

||dude is finally cracking the shell||

[stoic fjord]

||with the small moment with him and the other sinners with the Ring Nursefather, I'm convinced he's gonna have a fucking moment||

[neat cedar]

||doubt that, becayse thematically Dante ianhere to guide the sinners to paradiso||

[stoic fjord]

yeah, like

[neat cedar]

||If she was all alone, she would definitely||

[stoic fjord]

Canto 6 is very different from Wuthering Heights, not only in content but how everything ends thematically

and aiui Canto 5 and 7 might also be

[dusty sigil]

||Yah, thinking about it more I do think that story is going to be reversed, Ryoshu extending her thread to save the other sinners from the same hell she was stuck in||

[stoic fjord]

I don't know for Canto 8

[neat cedar]

||But the morale of thatnatory is in order to reach heavenz you need to embrace selflessness||

[atomic steeple]

||Ryoshu will instead deny the nursefathers their victory, but let the apprentice climb out with her||

[dusty sigil]

From what I’ve heard, yah it’s another reversal of the book’s ending

[stoic fjord]

||Apprentices join LC on god||

[dusty sigil]

With Hong Lu’s book equivalent not ascending to “heaven” to join his family

But rather staying upon the earth to continue walking his journey

[dusty sigil]

||at this point just have them join the LCD because they keep getting new members lol||

[atomic steeple]

||Maybe the nursefathers even doom themselves
As ryoshu said, they treat her as the source of their problems, denyinh responsibility
Seeing her as their thread would be similarly false||

[gentle mulch]

||ooh the spiders thread is for the nursefathers, not ryoshu thatd be sick||

[stoic fjord]

lmao

[atomic steeple]

Also, damn
What the dihui star did in part 2, was in hindsight gaslighting
She's making ryoshu doubt her reality

[dusty sigil]

Also man, The ||Dihui Star feels, realistic as fuck||

[stoic fjord]

it's happening

[dusty sigil]

||A mother resenting her daughter because her birth led to said mother being trapped in a loveless house||

[stoic fjord]

the limbus fandom is going insane

[dusty sigil]

I know the city doesn’t work off actually patriarchy

But the metaphor is there

And fuck it feels like it

[stoic fjord]

this has to be intentional fucking with us right

like

[atomic steeple]

Misogyny introduced to the City to affect only One woman

[neat cedar]

||yeahnthe character she's based on was captured and forced into marriage so||

[dusty sigil]

Ah

Then yah

Also wait what character is she based off?

[neat cedar]

Water Margin

by the same name

or at least title

[dusty sigil]

Ohhhhh

[dusty sigil]

The rest of the city aren’t misogynist except Rien specifically

Also Valencia

Not directed at Dihui Star

Just in general

[atomic steeple]

Where did I say the city was mysogynistic

[dusty sigil]

Also for her name, should I be saying The Dihui Star or just Dihui Star?

I’m really not sure

[dusty sigil]

I didn’t say you said that

[atomic steeple]

When I said introduced, didn't mean everyone exoressed it

Whatever

[dusty sigil]

Oh, no I was just continuing the joke

[neat cedar]

god

i am not even kidding when i say

[atomic steeple]

Ah okay, sorry

[dusty sigil]

It’s fine

[neat cedar]

i don't even.want ||Rien Sang ID||

||If it was possible.to burn IDs, i would.for him||

[atomic steeple]

Sinking is fine without him

[neat cedar]

||Hate this character so much i can barely standit||

no ye

i'm just noting

[dusty sigil]

||Rien is like, unfathomably creepy to me||

[atomic steeple]

Note that sora

Might be underfed

[neat cedar]

5his is the furst time i've been like

so viscerally opposed to a cjaracter

[split beacon]

no I need that ID

[neat cedar]

down to my bones

[dusty sigil]

||People keeping saying he’s the good parent compared to Dihui Star but like, placing the safe there was probably the cruelest thing he could have possibly done||

[split beacon]

I need to field the creepiest, scariest, most menacing and fucking bastard asshole IDs

[neat cedar]

KJH got me good

[dusty sigil]

||Legitimately, he’s probably the cruelest of the nursefathers||

[neat cedar]

the reason for me.is just cause the final.scene hi5

very

very close.to home

[atomic steeple]

And you can't fell bullet him

[split beacon]

Your words? They were very "effective".

They hit him right here.

[atomic steeple]

He is cold

[neat cedar]

hate him lunatic

hate him sooo.much

[stoic fjord]

I genuinely think ||Rien is crueler than Valencia and Dihui Star combined||

[dusty sigil]

But also, I do want an ID of him really bad, because fuck I love multi weapon users

[neat cedar]

||Thebother NFs are cruel or neglectful.or both. Him? He's enjoying thism||

[split beacon]

||the other Nursefathers are trying to do what they're supposed to do, even Shiomi Yoru, who clearly is hateful and put-upon and spiteful but still wants Ryoshu to become a good swordsmaster in the only way she can make her one||

[atomic steeple]

I think only ring and middle fathers aren't despicable

[stoic fjord]

okay they're still kinda despicable I think

[ebon forge]

Wait what happened in Canto 6 with the whole cathy CG shit or whatnot?

[stoic fjord]

just not nearly on the same level from what we've seen

[stoic fjord]

what

[neat cedar]

ring and middle are def despicable

[split beacon]

||Rien knows he's hurting people, he doesn't even seem to relish in it so much as feel satisfaction in knowing he can||

[atomic steeple]

Oh meant as parents

[dusty sigil]

||Moses saying that Kira’s obsession with games is a coping mechanism made so she doesn’t bore her father is very telling tbh||

[stoic fjord]

but there's still an entire third part for them to show us

[neat cedar]

yeah

[dusty sigil]

||Hes almost certainly crueler then he lets on||

[neat cedar]

||Words are just another weapon in his arsenal||

[dusty sigil]

||Kira has just so far not bored him enough to act on it||

[stoic fjord]

||also true yeah, I feel like he's probably a worse parent to Kira than he was to Ryoshu, though||

[neat cedar]

||Like Fpoon or a Spork||

[atomic steeple]

Matthias is neglectful to the point kira was lonely, but that's leagues above the others

[split beacon]

||eh, if he's supposed to be a disinterested absentee manchild, I think Kira acting to keep her father's attention is a coping mechanism so she gets the attention that she clearly DESPERATELY craves||

[neat cedar]

^

[split beacon]

||not to keep him from killing her||

[cloud wadi]

You know what’s the ||oddest thing about the Safe||

[dusty sigil]

I mean, he said it himself, when he’s bored of a toy he just smashes it

[cloud wadi]

It has ||scratch marks on the inside||

[neat cedar]

yeah

[stoic fjord]

||that's what's fucking me up rn. what the hell happened.||

[cloud wadi]

As if ||whatever was contained inside was desperately clawing at its walls to escape||

[dusty sigil]

Oh yah that’s a baaaaaad sign

[split beacon]

||consider the name of Rien's apprentice's EGO||

[stoic fjord]

||Sora||

[split beacon]

||it's PROCUREMENT, as in the ability to obtain things. to get at things and take them||

[atomic steeple]

Saw theories about the scratch mark

[stoic fjord]

Procuration

[neat cedar]

hmmmm

[split beacon]

||and her EGO weapon is a set of claws||

[neat cedar]

maybe

[stoic fjord]

oh shit

hold on you might be cooking

[split beacon]

also

[dusty sigil]

But also man, I know ||people joked about Rien being Roland during the reveal trailer, but I really do wonder if the similarities are intentional. They look similar, they both use multiple weapons, hell Roland was going to be a father before the pianist happened||

[split beacon]

||Rien created Sora and her EGO. That doesn't happen by accident||

[ebon forge]

Also, idk if this is relevant but ||both Ryo and Sora don’t seem to eat much at all||

[split beacon]

||I suspect that Sora was created very carefully by Rien as a way of opening that safe, to "procure" Ryoshu's daughter for his designs||

[stoic fjord]

||I think each apprentice is meant to mirror some aspect of Ryoshu, even if we can't quite see it yet||

[atomic steeple]

||Either araya scratched the walls while being dragged out, orvthe nursefathers sabotaged the safe to make her suffer before they ripped her out||
After all, ryoshu did her best to testvthe safety

[cloud wadi]

It would be hilarious ||if Rien created an ego to unlock a safe instead of just buying a high quality fairy||

[dusty sigil]

||if there’s one thing that can counter a singularity, it’s an EGO||

||Both objects born from the well of humanity||

[split beacon]

Singularities aren't strictly known to come from the Well

I mean we KINDA know that but, yanno

[dusty sigil]

I mean, they come from the outskirts

So probably?

[cosmic gorge]

Folks what was the final fight of part 1 again

[split beacon]

Albina and Ren

[stoic fjord]

||Ren and Albina||

[cosmic gorge]

Ah ok i got it

[neat cedar]

and don't forget @cloud wadi

[atomic steeple]

I don't think the scratch marks would be inside if the claws were used to open and take the kid

[cosmic gorge]

Finished that yesterday

[split beacon]

so does Ren wield a Dihui Star's Blade replica then

[dusty sigil]

Probably

[neat cedar]

||whatnthenego gear sge was using as a disguise was||

||*Wayward.passenger . . .||

[dusty sigil]

They each seem to practice copies of their nursefather’s fighting styles

Except Sora

She’s doing her own thing

[split beacon]

Eh, if you used claws to pry the safe open and tear the insides out yeah you would

[atomic steeple]

I mean, either you slash it with the kid inside and leave a mess
Or slash after removing a kid. This won't leave a mess, but why do it?

[dusty sigil]

Also man, I just realized

[split beacon]

think about a scooping action

[atomic steeple]

Only saw this now

[dusty sigil]

||Ryoshu was recruited by Faust 2 years ago||

||Ruina happened around 2 years ago||

[atomic steeple]

Ah, makes sense now

[dusty sigil]

||Do y’all think Yan’s distortion opened up the idea of making Sora an egotist?||

[stoic fjord]

||She promised that the House of Spiders would be destroyed in 2 years under the contract as well||

[atomic steeple]

Hm, was it? Didn't seem at all

[dusty sigil]

||Yan is almost certainly still serving the index just because he’s a STOC level distortion, I doubt anyone has killed him yet||

[split beacon]

||tbh his Distortion seems pretty stable too, hard to re-undermine his worldview again lol||

[dusty sigil]

Actually wait

I just remembered

This is the index

Coming up with their own ideas

Is kinda anathema to them

[neat cedar]

||I mean, it was blue, fleshy, and had teerh||

[crimson spindle]

also as a reminder just in case you forgot

the timing of the mass casualty event for the city is also rapidly approaching

[neat cedar]

||No other abno really bas that combo||

[dusty sigil]

Yaaaaah

[stoic fjord]

brilliant

[dusty sigil]

Shits gonna be fucked

[stoic fjord]

wait

how close

[split beacon]

what month is it in Canto 9?

[stoic fjord]

is this a Canto 10 thing or is it a Canto 9/intervallo possibility

[split beacon]

it's like February or March now right

[crimson spindle]

somewhere around there

and the drop happens in june

[dusty sigil]

Yah that still gives a few months

[stoic fjord]

wait

that could line up with like

[atomic steeple]

Ah, I see
I focused on the odd handcuffs, and thought the red was blood from the cave in

[neat cedar]

also

[stoic fjord]

Meursault Canto or Outis Canto, possibly Faust

[split beacon]

If the remaining Cantos happen without any time consuming interruptions, its gonna be Outis right

[neat cedar]

||on index don's uptie, she is commanded to get the wayward passenger ego vlgear as well||

[stoic fjord]

also assuming the intervallos are not long timespans

[neat cedar]

that was my guess

[dusty sigil]

I mean, if any sinner would be responsible for mass death

It would be her

[neat cedar]

ye

[crimson spindle]

see I am thinking something worse

[atomic steeple]

My reDinh comprehension failed me

[crimson spindle]

remember which sinner number dante technically is

[stoic fjord]

I was actually thinking Faust, due to mirror fuckery

[split beacon]

Would you still love me if I killed millions?

[neat cedar]

he's 10, right?

[crimson spindle]

yes

[split beacon]

God, Outis is so moe

[neat cedar]

they i mean

[dusty sigil]

10?

[stoic fjord]

what if Canto 13 by June in-universe

[neat cedar]

Also i like that

[stoic fjord]

they. but yeah sinner 10 is Dante

[neat cedar]

in thenrecruitment flashbacms

||Faust is really embodying mephisto with her deals||

[atomic steeple]

Man index nf is so manipulative
Got sora wrapped around his finger

[split beacon]

Why was Dante postdated

[neat cedar]

||I wonder what's up with that||

[split beacon]

That’s still not been answered and it’s really interesting

[stoic fjord]

why is the 10 on Sinclair's uniform scratched out and replaced with 11

[crimson spindle]

I mean, I'm personally pretty sure that the pre-clocking dante was recruited at 10

[split beacon]

That’s because Dante was postdated lol

[crimson spindle]

on a separate track

[stoic fjord]

oh yeah fair same meaning I guess

[crimson spindle]

resulting in some administrative confusion

[split beacon]

If so why was Sinclair assigned Sinner 10 uniform before

They would’ve already known they had a Sinner #10

[stoic fjord]

is Dante's uniform labeled #10

[crimson spindle]

not if they were recruited separately

[split beacon]

So if Faust recruited everyone else, who recruited Dante separately

[crimson spindle]

which is what they would have had to do because nobody recognizes or indicates they knew about a separate person

[dusty sigil]

Dias I’m betting

Also Faust didn’t recruit everyone

Vergilius recruited Don

Maybe others

[ebon forge]

I really want to cuddle all the apprentices

[neat cedar]

god

9-35 spoiler but

[stoic fjord]

mood

[neat cedar]

|| https://pbs.twimg.com/media/G-J_RVla0AUETYY?format=jpg&name=large ||

just fuckin kill me

[dusty sigil]

Killing myself

Also man, I really hope part 3 explains Ryoshu’s obsession with “art”

It’s such a central part of her but we really don’t know why yet

[neat cedar]

||Ryoshu reverting to her child-like self after having her one thread of confidence so keenly shattered||

[dusty sigil]

Could just be the ring nursefather but she considers what the ring does as kitschy trash

[crimson spindle]

I think it's just like

[neat cedar]

||it's so unlike her and it hits me so hard||

[crimson spindle]

ryoshu is clinging to a bunch of things to hold her identity together

[neat cedar]

ye

[crimson spindle]

that's what this canto has revealed

[dusty sigil]

That’s also possible yah

[split beacon]

no yeah

it's absolutely her clinging to the threads of her identity

[crimson spindle]

like my read at this point is all her gimmicks exist because they define her as an individual who is separate from others

[split beacon]

and ||Shiomi Yoru basically just smashed all of the pillars holding her identity up||

[crimson spindle]

because she ||doesn't have enough clear memories remaining to individualize herself||

[split beacon]

makes me wonder why she didn't Distort

[dusty sigil]

I think the only thing holding her together was her “invitation”

[split beacon]

it all loops around

[dusty sigil]

Rien did give her the slightest hope

That her daughter may still be alive and safe

[split beacon]

why is Ryoshu acting like a 8th grader who's trying to individualize for the first time?

because she ||is in that exact stage of development||

[crimson spindle]

yeah she's not gonna distort until she gets an answer on whether or not ||her daughter is alive||

[split beacon]

Ryoshu is a chuunibyou for the exact same reasons everyone else is

[dusty sigil]

She still has the thread

As tattered and ruined as it is

It’s still possible to follow it home

[cosmic gorge]

Cantos 7-9 really is just a sliding scale of bad parental figures no

[crimson spindle]

I am starting to wonder if the direction this is going is that ||the "child" is just ryoshu herself, and the thing she hid was like, the one good thing she got as a child. a worn teddy bear, for example||

[dusty sigil]

Yah lol

[crimson spindle]

||representing herself as the child||

[split beacon]

it IS starting to feel that way isn't it

[atomic steeple]

Lei heng tho

[split beacon]

what does he know

bro is IG'NANT

[dusty sigil]

Yah I was about to mention

Lei Heng is a piece of shit but he has no reason to lie to Ryoshu by then

He’s not apart of the house of spiders

[crimson spindle]

||and the resolution is going to be hell screen - the child must burn because clinging to the hope that your parents will change retroactively is always futile.||

[dusty sigil]

He just trained her for a bit

[crimson spindle]

||the thread must be severed||

[split beacon]

yeah but more to the point

[quaint cliff]

||I’ve seen some theories that the person we fought isn’t the real Dihui Star at all, and that’s why she has that glitch effect - it’s some kind of holographic disguise||

[cosmic gorge]

You got ||a well meaning but neglectful dan in dadqui, the cartoonishly evil ancestors of the xiaren, and the realistically abusive nature of the NFs in this one||

[split beacon]

Lei Heng also doesn't know shit about shit

[split beacon]

we know what that glitch effect is though lol

it's her screwy Afterimage Entanglement style

[stoic fjord]

I think we're starting to get lost in the sauce to some degree

[quaint cliff]

I’m just parroting theories

To explain her speech

[dusty sigil]

I mean, presumably he just saw her daughter himself if he brought it up casually

He doesn’t actually think of Ryoshu as an enemy by then

[split beacon]

or he heard about it

[quaint cliff]

Beyond “Ryoshu was lied to” I mean, which is the simplest explanation

[split beacon]

from someone who was wrong

[dusty sigil]

Just an old colleague he used to teach he hasn’t seen in a while

[split beacon]

oh my fucking GOD

I just loaded into MD

and the loading screen was ||the empty safe||

[atomic steeple]

Lei heng mentions the kid, and his very existence and the proxies in udjat uptie imply there are otehr finger members involved in the House of Spiders
I don't think a the secret that her kid doesn't actuallye xist and she just had achildhood memento would last

[split beacon]

fuuuuuuuuuuuck

[dusty sigil]

Get fucked

[crimson spindle]

cantos 1-3: a traumatic event
cantos 4-6: An obsession with a person
cantos 7-9: PARENTS ARE THE WORST

[stoic fjord]

most recent CG method is fucked up

[dusty sigil]

The game wanted to kill you

[split beacon]

unclashable attack

999 sinking / 999 count

[stoic fjord]

I wonder what 10-12 will be

[atomic steeple]

Also, genuinely
I think it would cut the themes a bit to not have the third iteration of the family
To illustrate the cycle

[split beacon]

society a fuck

[stoic fjord]

yeah fair that sounds about right

[split beacon]

Meursault, Outis, and Faust are all plagued by greater issues of like

identity, fitting in, being yourself in the context of the City and the environment you live in

[split beacon]

the great magicked beeper hath spoken

[quaint cliff]

I’m personally just really, really, really hoping that a theory I saw based on leaked mili song lyrics isn’t true because while it would be a helluva twist, I don’t appreciate being spoiled on it.

[dusty sigil]

Also legitimately, I’m expecting an overarching theme of the expectations of others

The stranger is primarily about this so that’s obvious

Outis abandoned her name due to the actions she committed from expectations of war

And Faust’s Fausts constantly require she act not as herself but as a collective

[stoic fjord]

one might say

Chains... of others?

[dusty sigil]

Woah

[quaint cliff]

||That Ryoshu was tricked with the safe and the “Dihui Star” is actually Araya, trapped in a normal ass safe then recovered by the House and put through a T-Corp training chamber like the R corp packs until she learned the Dihui Star’s style and is now full of resentment for what Ryoshu accidentally put her through||

Would be peak! IF I hadn’t been spoiled on it.

So I’m hoping it’s not true for that reason alone.

[stoic fjord]

nnnnnot clicking this, that feels like it's gonna be absolutely fucking huge if it's from leaked Mili lyrics

[quaint cliff]

To be clear, supposedly only the melody has been confirmed. The lyrics have not been verified.

So I’m hoping that guy is full of shit!

[dusty sigil]

Oh

Then yah it’s probably not true lol

[quaint cliff]

For which I will put him in the Book.

[stoic fjord]

this is why I avoid reddit and such

[cloud wadi]

fairly sure that "leaked milil song" was actually ai generated or something

[dusty sigil]

Leaks tend to be full of shit unless they can show you for sure

[stoic fjord]

if I see theories I will die

[quaint cliff]

It was the ‘chan

[cloud wadi]

ah

hmm

[split beacon]

source: I made it the fuck up

[cloud wadi]

I don't know about that

there seems to have been multiple claims of breaches to PMoon data

[dusty sigil]

I give all 4chan leaks the biggest grain of salt possible

[stoic fjord]

even worse! infinitely so!

anyways yeah I would just stay away from any and all social media or forums before full release

[dusty sigil]

People do just love saying shit over there

[dusty sigil]

Yah but the only leaks that were actually verified were sprite leaks

Which we’ve seen all the characters leaked by now

[quaint cliff]

Either way, my own grudge book is at the ready because he’s either a liar or an ass.

[stoic fjord]

isn't that like

99.9% of people on 4chan

[neat cedar]

. . . ye, think i need to avoid limbus for a few days

the vibes are hitting

so prob won't be chatting here for a bit

theory on well

[split beacon]

o7

[dusty sigil]

Later!

Also chat, I haven’t read distortion detective

Where did ||Vespa find Gungir?||

[split beacon]

I should read Distortion Detective

[dusty sigil]

All I know is from his passive where ||it was a weapon found in the ruins that Vespa was oddly compatible with||

[unique bane]

||i thought that it was to kill the person wearing it||

[cloud wadi]

I think it happened after distotion detective

So unknown

[dusty sigil]

Oh

Damn

[cloud wadi]

Clearly appears to ||be Relic tech||

Casual|| teleportation||

Appears to be some kind of lost tech

The method utilized appears to be ||quite similar to beholder extraction honestly||

||the flash of light accompanying a telportation||

[eternal berry]

Er, I’m pretty sure it’s the same weapon as in DD; same weird spearhead and everything

[cloud wadi]

Hmmm

[eternal berry]

It's probably just tied to the backstory we never properly got to involving the Thumb, would be my guess

So yeah, that's your answer: DD doesn't explain what the deal with the weapon is either

[dusty sigil]

Oh my god

I just remembered

I coulda Morostasis’s 9-33

And it would have removed the main threat of the fight

Oh my god I’m an idiot

[worthy haven]

Ok I am at 9-30

WHAT A BANGER THEME

HOLY HOLY HOLY

[cloud wadi]

Oh yeah I did that instantly

[split beacon]

yea

[split beacon]

I recommend it lol

[dusty sigil]

Honestly I just, never use durande

Because in my mind

It’s limited

So I should never touch it

[worthy haven]

the 9-30 fight theme is fucking goooood (time to back out if the chat again)

[cloud wadi]

I just saw the boss and immediately thought “when would I use moros if not now”

[keen palm]

I forget Moros existed

[cloud wadi]

Gave me just enough time to fully unlock the index ids

[dusty sigil]

And it is literally made for fights like that lol

Like in lore

[cloud wadi]

Yeah

Once unlocked the index ids are pretty strong

[dusty sigil]

Also man, ||It kinda rules how the game still shows the immense gap between Vespa, a newly minted Color, and Vergilius, one of the oldest remaining and most experienced Colors in the city||

||Vespa is still like, within our mile strength wise||

||he fights with us and we can recognize what he’s doing||

||with Vergilius though, he feels truly unstoppable||

[stoic fjord]

||we can't see his HP but we can see his clash numbers and he lost 1 clash to Sora when I was playing||

[cloud wadi]

We can’t even|| comprehend Vergil’s attacks||

[dusty sigil]

Yah he’s ||guaranteed to lose the final clash I think||

[worthy haven]

||FUCKING VESPA IS LEVEL 87 AND HAS SHIN??????|| (9-30). ||HE IS A COLOUR FIXER??????????????????|| WTF WTF WTF WTF WTF WTF

[stoic fjord]

||Dante's PDA going "ngl fam I couldn't even tell you how much that's gonna fuckin do if I tried"||

[dusty sigil]

Also, him showing up means something

||MORE FUCKING TREMOR IDS BABY||

[gentle mulch]

haha yeah

[dusty sigil]

||WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO||

[cloud wadi]

Eventually

At some point

[worthy haven]

I CANNOT BELIEVE IT

[cloud wadi]

Maybe in like 3 more cantos

[dusty sigil]

Oh hey speaking of lol

[gentle mulch]

will tremor be fun to play some day?

[worthy haven]

SO HYPE

[gentle mulch]

i can hope

[eternal berry]

||Baby Bee|| got the big promotion

[cloud wadi]

The ||laziest man alive||

[eternal berry]

100% bet you ||Ezra's still gonna call him Junior though lol||

[cloud wadi]

Do you think ||color fixers will all be monochrome in terms of sin||

[dusty sigil]

Probably yah

It’s a theme so far

[gentle mulch]

so far yeah

[dusty sigil]

And the indigo elder is like, the most pride coded man of all time

And he’s blue too

[gentle mulch]

oh my god

[cloud wadi]

He might be gloom though

[gentle mulch]

the last part drop is next week

oh my god

[atomic steeple]

Huh true ||he's sloth||

[gentle mulch]

chimera ant arc is ramping up next week

oh fuck

[atomic steeple]

So iori might be ||envy?||

[gentle mulch]

ohhhh fuck

[cloud wadi]

Probably

[dusty sigil]

Idk, his vibe really fits pride to me

With his reason for hunting the whales being that he is a fisherman

And he will fish

He respects them as specimens

[cloud wadi]

That can also be a gloom thing

[dusty sigil]

And wishes to test himself against them

[stoic fjord]

I feel like a gloom color fixer would be turquoise rather than the solidly pride-colored blue

[cloud wadi]

“I just do what I do because I must”

Is gloom

[atomic steeple]

Gloom could be based on him entering the Zone while fishing

[cloud wadi]

Hmm

[atomic steeple]

Just losing himself in the act

Sinking

[cloud wadi]

Would probably be more close to Pale

Or Cyan I guess

[atomic steeple]

But in a relaxing way

[cloud wadi]

For gloom

[stoic fjord]

yeah I couldn't think of the name of the color off the top of my head

[cloud wadi]

Pale Fixer maybe

Like how Angela was called the Pale librarian

Due to her skin tone and hair

[atomic steeple]

You know, what trips me up is that the purple breath of moses, related to Black damage and thus temperance
Is likened to Envy

Moses describes it in distortion detective

And mentions it in this canto

[cloud wadi]

Kinda makes sense

[stoic fjord]

||oh my god my friends are already simping for the LCA captain lady||

[cloud wadi]

Temperance is self control

[atomic steeple]

Neurosis, hysteria, pain
Chains, barbed wire, lightning
As she described it

[cloud wadi]

Envy is feeling the pain

But holding yourself back

[dusty sigil]

||SHES LITERALLY SO PRETTY THOUGH||

[atomic steeple]

Also that neatly shows why charge is connected to gloom too
Pain is gloomy

[cloud wadi]

Feel like

[atomic steeple]

Ishmael, when spinning down into her gloom, was deeply neurotic

[worthy haven]

||MERSAULT LORE WTF||

[cloud wadi]

They might have overtuned the weekly thread abnos

Just a little thought

[cosmic gorge]

You folks dont just skip em?

[split beacon]

new ones?

[cloud wadi]

No

Yeah

New ones

[cosmic gorge]

o7

[cloud wadi]

Gotta beat them first to skip it

Not that I would recommend skipping it

[cosmic gorge]

Oh yes

[cloud wadi]

Not at this point

[atomic steeple]

The 4 damage types in lob corp are cool.
Hope we see moses throwing them at index father while the latter uses his ruina danage types

Oh huh

[cloud wadi]

Gotta save all my modules

[atomic steeple]

This really is the canto of callbacks

[dusty sigil]

Also chat, ||the Moses sprite in the cutscene makes me think we’ll fight alongside her in part 3||

[atomic steeple]

We have two characters related to the main damage systems of orevious games

[stoic fjord]

true

[atomic steeple]

Truth nuke

[cloud wadi]

I think we will absolutely kill middle father

Which will only serve to dig our karmic debt further with them

Though

I guess we were due for total extermination anyways

So what’s a few more on top

[uneven canopy]

its fiiiiine

whats a bit of a syndicate war between pals

[stoic fjord]

we've already been slated for complete and utter obliteration for 4 cantos now

[atomic steeple]

I love that we finally get confirmation that, as I thought, the Middle mostly pretends to be a family

[worthy haven]

ok i just got to THAT PART

[atomic steeple]

To cope with their issues as a priority over caring

[worthy haven]

HOLY FUCVK

I AM SO EXCITED TO BACKREAD

[cosmic gorge]

Ricardo in the next intravello trust

[atomic steeple]

Middle father is pissed off people didn't care about his special interest, and probably they destroyed his rare model kit
And has been mad for years

[cosmic gorge]

In a social sphere that makes every emotional slight a valid target for retribution

It makes sense that emotional growth gets stunted

[stoic fjord]

real as hell for that one even if I think he's probably a really shitty person

[atomic steeple]

Yeah. Kira ||gets mad when she can't find the characters and takes it as something personal||
Matthias ||takes ezra thinking he knocked the sinners out as trying to frame him||

[worthy haven]

Matthias is so fucking cool

[split beacon]

people can be totally wrong and fucked up but still be like Yeah Real

[stoic fjord]

I was made to be the middle the way I assume anything and everything is my fault/being framed as such and get mad about it

[atomic steeple]

You can see Kira is very emotionally neglected and became obsessed with comics and videogames
The middle brother in night sweeping blames himself about the situation until ricardo comforts him
Ricardo is deeply insecure about his hair

[split beacon]

Rien hitting that statement of "what you said was very effective" is like

yeah man if I was embracing my darkest thoughts I'd do that

[stoic fjord]

Rien is actually top 5 most evil characters of all time for that one

[split beacon]

like that's how you twist the knife

[stoic fjord]

it's fucking insane

[atomic steeple]

Okay, I can relate to being worried people are attacking/blaming you

[stoic fjord]

the whole killing people thing is a bit much

[stoic fjord]

like. genuinely ||Yi Sang's ID of this guy gotta be worse than any of the bad end IDs||

[atomic steeple]

Ring father might be the most mentally stable of them and that's the dude who makes corpse galleries

[split beacon]

I can't even be mad, I was genuinely impressed by Rien as a character because that's just... perfect

[stoic fjord]

I hate him so much in the best way possible

[atomic steeple]

Well rien is stable

[stoic fjord]

KJH out here lining up the perfect shot to the gut for us

[dusty sigil]

I just lost... to a luxcavation boss...

I gotta lie down...

[split beacon]

lmfao

you made the fatal mistake!

[cosmic gorge]

Should we target the head or feet first

[split beacon]

Feet!

please read the passives im begging u

the new Deterrence Released abnormalities will run your pockets if you aren't paying attention

[dusty sigil]

I didnt remember it being this bad in canto 9...

[keen palm]

https://tenor.com/view/laughing-cat-catlaughing-laughingcat-point-gif-7577620470218150413

[atomic steeple]

It will be hilarious abd sad if ryoshu likes gore because her two most normal fathers included the traumatizing gore abd torture guy.
And the guy who deeply betrayed and revealed himself as a great abuser was the other of the two

[dusty sigil]

[atomic steeple]

Please, kjh, make him the least bad so I can describe him and how he raised ryoshu in detail then tell people that was her least bad father

[stoic fjord]

I don't think any of them are going to be least bad

||Rien is just going to be most bad||

[atomic steeple]

True

[split beacon]

it's only gonna get worse

[atomic steeple]

Different flavors of abuse

I am curious, what it means to have your skills be a single sin, as we've seem with two color fixers

[stoic fjord]

||wasn't it all S1s with Vespa and Vergilius, though?||

[atomic steeple]

Oh, I see

[cloud wadi]

give me the samcheonsegai

[atomic steeple]

Wait, why ||would vespa use only s1s in that fight?||

[cloud wadi]

insanity maybe

mind and body dedicated to a singular purpose and ideal

[unique bane]

given how matthias seems to only really care about things that interest him kira may have intentionally adopted those interests to not be abandoned by him
which has alienated her from the other apprentices

[cosmic gorge]

Bad gacha luck maybe

I kept getting s1 with my ryo

Speaking of ryo

[cloud wadi]

middle as always is completely unreasonable

[cosmic gorge]

Does daiyryo clash better than maidryo

[cloud wadi]

the luxcavation bosses got hands