Project Moon Games: Lobcorp, Ruina, Etc.

[keen palm]

Yeah

[faint pivot]

Wack

Hemorrhage might actually get use

I see that KK Rodya walked so Fell Sang could run, interestin

[stoic fjord]

calm down 😭

[faint pivot]

Didn't realize one of the 6 KK was Ryo sooo

Guess that's decided lmao

[keen palm]

Why the hell is the luxcavation music the fucky Kung Fu Hustle vibe

[ebon forge]

i wouldve been 200 if my macros didnt fuck up

[bronze zephyr]

just finished part 1 holy shi

[stoic fjord]

MY FRIEND GOT INDEX FAUST ON HIS FIRST FUCKING TEN PULL

[bronze zephyr]

Oooohhhh

[stoic fjord]

I'm so mad

[stoic fjord]

I'm also trying to explain the mechanics to them

because they're coming to Limbus off of hoyoverse games

and so I don't know how to explain "you can just buy the characters for free with the stuff you get from pulls that don't give you IDs" and "weapons don't exist and E.G.Os aren't that"

[crimson spindle]

I did too

the will of the prescript

[stoic fjord]

I'm seething rn

[bronze zephyr]

From hell into heaven

I’m itching to shard an ID

[cloud wadi]

They have a very strong Faust id to help them through the game with

Envious

[bronze zephyr]

Should I prioritize fau don or outisss is the question

[cloud wadi]

And it even somewhat fuels fluid sac

[bronze zephyr]

True

[wild mango]

just beat line 5 and got princess rodi from the reward

[neat cedar]

noice

And yeah, listen to Ultra's break down on Odjat and realized that

both of these ids are really solid for new players

because they're very self sufficient

amd if i get both, can build into each other somewhat

[neat cedar]

I mean, aside from.just saying that?

tell.them.that it's similar to the pull.currency you get in those games when you pull a unit

you just save a bunch of those shards, either from pulling ids or(more often) doing content like mirror dungeons amd events

but instead of getting materials for building characters

u just get the characters

[wild mango]

@zinc pewter

i had to level a bucnch of backup ids but it was WORTH IT

princess rodi is so girlypop

she does her attack, strikes a pose, goes "hmph!" and then aura farms

[neat cedar]

such is only proper

[faint pivot]

Congrats on the dub!

Got any highlights on the journey there?

[wild mango]

uh

[faint pivot]

I just meant any funny/wack/awful moments you wanna share, to clarify

Am curious on your teams too

[wild mango]

barley scraping by on line 2 and 3?

yeah

[faint pivot]

EYYY ANOTHER 86'ER

Honestly considering that you're bringing base IDs and some IDs that didn't age great I feel like you did better than me

Well done on making the N corp team work

[wild mango]

barley, lmao

oh yeah i blew the wave 1 on line 2 up in two turns

or like

3

cos i got a full resonance contempt awe ryoshu ego

[faint pivot]

Tricky to pull off but love to see it

[wild mango]

or like, near full

[faint pivot]

Either way it was definitely close enough

I can't wait to shard the Bloodfiends so I can feed ManaDon the remains of her family

[wild mango]

i think i staggered all of them at once

[stoic fjord]

I need thread and tickets and more thread and more tickets and even more thread

I need biend

I need blood fiends

Call me a bloodfiend but replace the bl with blood and the ood with fiends

Bloodfiendsfiend

[ebon forge]

Wait

Holy shit

Did they just leak the canto 9 song?

[cosmic gorge]

Nooo

[ebon forge]

Not data mined btw

[cosmic gorge]

Yisang Flow

Smoking the shit that make you taste colors in T Corp

[ebon forge]

https://www.rxddit.com/r/limbuscompany/s/6VPxnjFqob @stoic fjord

[ebon forge]

Bruh what the fuck does sepia taste like

[cloud wadi]

You know

I wonder if five fingers are based on the five Confucian virtues

[ebon forge]

Piss???

No that’s Xichun wdym

jk but yeah

[cloud wadi]

Propriety

Trust

Loyalty

Wisdom

Righteousness

Which maps pretty well to each finger

[ebon forge]

I’m seeing humanity/propriety/trustworthyness/wisdom/righteousness

Humanity over loyalty, basically

Propriety is Thumb

Humanity would be Ring

Trustworthiness might be pinky?

Middle is righteousness

Then index would be wisdom

[stoic fjord]

Oooouuuuughhhh

[ebon forge]

I know my target audience

[stoic fjord]

We NEED Valencirodion

[ebon forge]

She’s gonna have a LOT of “fan art”

stares at Dulci

I wonder if I get to lv 200 by 08

[stoic fjord]

I'm only at level 40 😭

Chill with the automation bro the Head is going to send an arbiter to your home

[ebon forge]

Aw hell naw

I ain’t quitting until Binah shows up at my front door

Seriously though that’s only like…

100 levels

That’s 33 MDs

I’ve only done about 7-8 per day, really

[cosmic gorge]

How is ring humanity

[jaunty jay]

The Ring seems to use/push the human form to extremes, but in very excessive/brutal ways?

[ebon forge]

the desire to make art and express the human form

[cloud wadi]

Ren or Humanity is probably pinky tbh

Since it specifically lacks a specific definition unlike other virtues

And Jia Qiu laments that the pinky are abandoning humanity

[cosmic gorge]

Whats ring if so

[cloud wadi]

Wisdom probably

Since it also accounts for pursuit of knowledge

And all the ring we’ve met so far are mad scientists of some description

[ebon forge]

i feel like its trust, somehow

[cloud wadi]

Trust maps to index so well though

Trust is more specifically Faith

[ebon forge]

true...

[cloud wadi]

Humanity is vague and undefined even within Confucian philosophy

So matches pinkies not having a specific theme

[ebon forge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1j675dBj10U

bruh

[lean fjord]

I assume this is a Sanguine moment

[tiny cave]

no sanguine actually

[lean fjord]

Ah I see

[tiny cave]

this is a good ol fashioned superbia contempt awe corrosion moment

[cloud wadi]

hilarious that Oujat Outis in the mirror world succeeded where Dias expected she would fail, thus endangering the whole point of limbus company lmfao

[tiny cave]

Limbus Company JD states you must be prepared to die for the sake of someone else’s character development

[cloud wadi]

I also like just how dependable Outis actually is in an actual life or death situation requiring clear directions and planning

like she's normally kinda out of depth when expected to improvise on the go as a spearhead

give her a map and some time to prepare and she can really start coming up with plans

[faint pivot]

Ain't it funky how Ren is the ||name of the Pinky apprentice||

[atomic steeple]

So what does the gun strat need to beat QoH?

[cosmic gorge]

burst her down iirc

[atomic steeple]

I kept running out of light then eating unopposeds

[cloud wadi]

I never got it to work

It’s easier to just beat her straight up imo

It’s easier using a bleed deck

With Sayo

Since bleed is a lot of extra damage that doesn’t add to her hysteria

[atomic steeple]

I see

Plus bleed has health recovery

[cloud wadi]

Yeah this is more or less what I kinda thought about the index prescripts

Index has already taken into account whether you are gonna succeed or fail or even attempt a given prescript before it sent the prescript out

Just like how Dias commands the LCA into a death trap that she herself set expecting them to die

[cosmic gorge]

just be like LCA Outis smh

but for the prescript

this may be actually why Outis is in her Odyssey maybe

[atomic steeple]

https://archiveofourown.org/works/49437511

“That's no reason to stop, Charon,” Vergilius replied, far more gently than he would've had it been any of the other Sinners defying their jobs. “You can keep driving through them if they won't get out of the way.”

“One of the people the radio said is a no-no to vroom vroom over,” Charon said flatly. “Pointy pointer in black and white.”

Vergilius shot to his feet, and instantly all complaints and gripes died as a chill fell over the bus. Dante felt Outis's hand tighten on their arm, even her stern orderly expression shifted into uncertainty from the sudden display of anger.

“... What are they doing?” He asked coldly.

“Walking toward Mephy. Think they're gonna knockity knock.”

[quaint cliff]

If the Index messengers were meant to live, they wouldn’t be in Mephi’s way. Such is the Will of the City.

FLOOR IT CHARON

[vagrant dove]

the prescripts mandate charon to commit vehicular manslaughter

[cosmic gorge]

what is up with the intentionally inconsistent CGs

[jaunty jay]

The mirrored/split motif of the season 7 trailer really rattling around my head.

蜘ノ糸ノ赤 [Kumo no ito • oti on akA]

[vagrant dove]

there's definitely something happening with ryoshu's flashbacks yeah

[atomic steeple]

Could be mistakes, too
But we'll know soon, when pmoon announces corrections, or not

[vagrant dove]

could be, but unreliable narration being a feature of the source material makes me think it's prob intentional

plus it's a really cool inversion of the typical way we get to see the Sinner's pasts

since every other case has the memories Dante gets to see be accurate

[atomic steeple]

Or the third option that they wanted to do something meta but it was a bit rushed

[vagrant dove]

true

[cosmic gorge]

like

ryo is holding a spiral in one cg, and not in another

and Alyssa's hair is different for each cg

[jaunty jay]

Udjat Outis ID mentioned someone messing with their Cognition Filters, does Dante being LCB's manager extend to the facility's features?

[atomic steeple]

Saw speculation it was supposed to story lock the different versions, instead of us noticing now

[vagrant dove]

Whatever's going on might be happening through the connection with Ryoshu in Dante's case, since we've seen the connection with Sinners can affect them before

(That brief moment in the Check-Up where Don's bloodthirst leaks through, for example(

[bronze zephyr]

Me when

[stoic fjord]

If the Will of the City wanted the messenger to live, they would have approached while the bus was stopped for something.

Charon mustn't stop vroom-vrooming

[brave badger]

does anybody have an udjat outis for me to borrow? 🥺

got a bit unlucky on her banner

[keen palm]

https://youtu.be/vrPHBFBuzjY?si=7-xbhZTSS8qCBLXD

[bronze zephyr]

Ugh I’m itching to know what the ||index apprentice is like||

[bronze zephyr]

Alas, Im waiting to shard

||verrry interested to see how they’ll do IDs for the fathers/apprentices||

[keen palm]

https://youtu.be/D7dZ9R1XoKs?si=XvGXEC7JJA-o0ooW

Spoilers obviously

[gentle mulch]

||the comment that's saying this is a normal LobCorp day lmao||

[atomic steeple]

Okay, this attempt against qoh went better but her mass attack still wasted me.

[ebon forge]

Malcute malevil and maldum

[cloud wadi]

either fully commit to bleed or mix in burn with Dawn Office gold card instead of using guns

sunset blade is a lot of damage

and rolls low enough that you can use it to let queenie win clashes in a pinch

[atomic steeple]

Got it

Thanks

Also think I gotta work more on buffs

Some clash losses have been painful

[atomic steeple]

Got to 26 health this attempt!

[cloud wadi]

You don’t seem to equip yang page with light draw and stuff

Why not bring a second Sayo

Or Kim for that matter

Since you seem to have overthrow

Yeah use kim and append sayo’s stuff so he inflicts bleed with slash

And use 0 cost cards like Draw the Blade

[atomic steeple]

I gotta check where I put my other sayo

[cloud wadi]

You don’t have a lot of emotion level to work with against tiph

So having good light management is important

Ideally also you want to kill her before she kills you

So offensive dive are usually the better option

Even if it means taking quite a bit of damage

[atomic steeple]

I almost won before seeing your recent advice

[cloud wadi]

Which is why you also bring in Dawn office fixer so he can give others protection buff

[atomic steeple]

Was with all 3 while she was about 20 health

Problem is, forgot to not win too muvh

So she transformed

[cloud wadi]

Yeah but you also would have won if some of your defensive dice were offensive ones I think haha

Salvador has a lot of hp so you can kinda let him tank for others

Sunset blade usually loses clash

[atomic steeple]

Using second sayo now

Let's see how it goes

[tiny cave]

Remember to change all your skins to Sayo as well

Even the male librarians

[atomic steeple]

Got her! Thanks!

[faint pivot]

KoD's fight is Limbus' but easier (if more finicky) so you got this

[lean fjord]

Knight is easy if you spec for ranged clashes

[ebon forge]

this feels wrong

[cloud wadi]

Huh

So psychoment is called 신비 in Korean

Chinese characters for it seems to be called 신비神備

[atomic steeple]

Oh man, put w corp on chesed but guess it's not good for scarecrow
Need to consistently block/evade to accumulate Wisdom

[cloud wadi]

Translated literally it means more or less uhhh

God preparation

Spirit preparation

Or maybe spirit equipment

[cloud wadi]

Have you been running nothing but mirror dungeons

[ebon forge]

bro is project moon secretly making a cultivation game

[ebon forge]

basically lol

i stacked up like, 150 modules before this lol

[cloud wadi]

I’ve done nothing but run mirror dungeons for the last 3 days type energy

I wonder if yuria is still stuck as a teddy bear

We’ll visit LCA research department and find a teddy bear in a lab coat

Wandering around a glass tank with her body floating inside it that everyone assumes is an experimental victim

[atomic steeple]

Ezra grabs her body to carry, YuRia says some double entendre

[wild mango]

second intervallo after canto 7 spoiler

||HEY||

||HEY||

||WHY IS HE HERE???||

[cosmic gorge]

:>

[keen palm]

https://tenor.com/view/limbus-company-limbus-company-ricardo-the-middle-gif-7709803166138573443

[tiny cave]

Why is Ryo’s rack so huge in this picture

[split beacon]

Theoretical professional model Ryoshu eats

[sudden arch]

||[MUFFLED ELECTRONIC MUSIC IN THE DISTANCE]||

[wild mango]

||man, zilu first is ROUGH||

||but i think i can do it||

[bronze zephyr]

TALL ITALIAN MAN

[faint pivot]

How tall is Verg compared to Ro and Ezra actually

[wild mango]

||ok, you just cant let her win a clash t1||

[neat cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/capisce-owl-blink-tilt-head-huh-gif-8545571037777365101

[ebon forge]

Why not

[uneven canopy]

hm, there's no official height listed

[eternal berry]

he's somewhere in the ballpark of 190cm or higher, so pretty tall and in the ezra range

[wild mango]

||ok, i beat him. i supported in a manger don||

[vagrant dove]

||The middle never forgets||

||The fact his music is diagetic still greatly amuses me||

(Forgot to spoiler for a sec, mb)

Anyways, c9 relevant meme

(Not mine, for clarity's sake)

||Still can't believe Valencina like, really couldn't let Ryoshu have one second of childlike joy||

[split beacon]

I mean yeah that’s kinda the point

[gentle mulch]

It's a good warmup to the kind of things that will happen to you in H Corp

[faint pivot]

I love how ||his silhouette has two-fold purpose||

||First to represent his sudden arrival and second to visualize his sudden departure||

[cloud wadi]

She’s the type of woman who literally believes traumatizing kids is good parenting

Ryoshu’s canto is actually the Italian canto

[tiny cave]

Ryoshu is Japanese, has a German friend (Sinclair) and it’s the Italian canto 🤔

[split beacon]

Axis Powers Hetalia 2

[split beacon]

It’s
textbook
abusive parenting

[dusty sigil]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqfcXy31oU8

[ebon forge]

I love how everyone loves her and Albina the most despite Albina having like 30 seconds of screen time

[cloud wadi]

Albina’s got that

Hourglass figure

Perfect measurements

[neat cedar]

PM is nothing if not very good at appealing to very specific niches

[stoic fjord]

I don't love her, she fucking sucks as a person, she just also makes me incredibly unwise and want her to put out that cigar on my neck

[neat cedar]

Case and Point

[cloud wadi]

I’m fairly sure dihui star wears a veil because she looks like Ryoshu

[neat cedar]

makes sense

[stoic fjord]

That would check out with what we know/suspect

[neat cedar]

i do find it interesting that

of all of the Nursefathers

Index and Pinky are the only ones she shows outright hate for when they show up

even Valencia she just was very cavalier and, while not happy to see her, could do some verbal sparring

[cloud wadi]

I think index father and dihui star betrayed her trust somehow

In a way that never existed for Valencia

Like index father received a prescript to do something bad to Ryoshu and he did it without a moment of hesitation kind of thing

[neat cedar]

i can see that

[jaunty jay]

Probably the most directly involved with raising Ryoshu.

[faint pivot]

Is it Valencina or Valencia

[neat cedar]

i can't remember

[faint pivot]

I remember it as the former

[stoic fjord]

Valencia

I think.

?

[neat cedar]

damn

[stoic fjord]

Fuck I don't remember

[cloud wadi]

And Ryoshu and dihui’s argument in the flashback ||implies that Dihui did some kind of rug pool on her that forced her to give up something precious||

[neat cedar]

now our memories are getting mutiliated

[cloud wadi]

It’s valencina

[neat cedar]

extremely curious

[faint pivot]

Pulled out the wiki and yep https://limbuscompany.wiki.gg/wiki/Valencina

[neat cedar]

what the ever living fuck is gonna be the bit

with Index Don

and how much they'll show in the preview

[cloud wadi]

Like from the context

[neat cedar]

because they've never, like, done a trailer like that before

[faint pivot]

The Will of the City has bestowed ||distortion||
It can bestow an ||EGO|| (probably)

[cloud wadi]

It seems like ||pinky nursefather offered to do something for Ryoshu and then proceeded to betray her||

[ebon forge]

That’s what we call toxic yuri

[cloud wadi]

Index is a parasite that feeds upon faith and determination of others

[jaunty jay]

I highly suspect Index Don ||is being shaped into a tool/weapon, getting orders beamed directly into her head or control devices||. (The shackles/binds on Index Don seemed to have a unique symbol on the neck piece?)

[stoic fjord]

Well aware

[cloud wadi]

I wonder if there are any Messenger of the index who loves their job

It seems like it’s a common thing for messengers to resent their role

I sometimes wonder if that’s because index occasionally needs their messengers to exercise independent judgment

[faint pivot]

We've seen more than one?

Is this a DD thing

[cloud wadi]

Index Messenger in Faust uptie

[faint pivot]

Aha I don't have her yet

[neat cedar]

probably this

plus, as a Messenger you kinda need to think a bit more I believe than the typical proxy or proselyte

you also have to give Prescripts to people outside the Index

[faint pivot]

I feel like the misery is from experiencing The Masses, that is, people not wholly accustomed to the Prescripts like the Proxies are

[stoic fjord]

Maybe it wouldn't be so bad to be in the index, if I could stay a proxy/proselyte.

[neat cedar]

I mean, yeah

that's kind of the bit

[stoic fjord]

Just. Carrying out orders. Not thinking too much about it.

Getting a cool cloak and sword.

[neat cedar]

the INdex, for most people, tend to have prescripts that only ask weird or highly specific things

[faint pivot]

And badge!

[neat cedar]

but aren't typically harmful

[stoic fjord]

Aura farming at least a little bit

Doing weird shit in the middle of the night before continuing on as normal

[neat cedar]

but then you also can be told " hey, eat this bowl full of hot lead"

and you are expected to shut up and eat that bowl of hot lead

[stoic fjord]

Theoretically quite survivable depending on your augments

[neat cedar]

indeed, but whether you have it or not is irrelevant

also unsure if being a member of the Index actually liek

pays

I imagine they have to get money from somewhere

[lean fjord]

Presumably the prescripts just arrange stuff to arrive for you

[stoic fjord]

Yeah, will of the city and all

[lean fjord]

Whether it's money or other things you need

[stoic fjord]

Prescript sends you out to a nice restaurant, the owner receives a prescript to waive your fees

Idk

[cloud wadi]

Yeah but in exchange the restaurant owner doesn’t have to pay taxes to the index for index protection

So it’s actually a pretty beneficial arrangement for the restaurant

[lean fjord]

The Index doesn't require any payment or anything from people in their territory yeah

Beyond that you have to follow your prescripts

[cloud wadi]

Obedience of the prescript is the tax

Presumably people in index territory receive prescripts more often than others

I wonder if former L nest being firmly index territory now is gonna come up again in the future

[stoic fjord]

True, yeah

[cloud wadi]

As long as you keep obeying your prescripts you can keep building up your material wealth

[ebon forge]

I love how the index is basically a communist party using the collective consciousness to make stuff work

Prescript that says “produce exactly 12,343 computer chips of the V33 model this year”

And you get exactly that many sales

[quaint cliff]

Or an insane surplus that you hold onto for a year until the market crashes and suddenly you’re sitting on the only supply for miles allowing you to make even more. Or some other convoluted outcome that benefits the Index.

[cloud wadi]

Index prescript will tell you to go sell heaters at a tropical district and it’ll turn out that there’s an undersupplied expedition there preparing to venture north who’s willing to buy heaters at a premium

[cloud wadi]

Hilarious that index Faust basically accuses the messenger of being regressive when he points out the oddity of her being able to speak to him despite receiving a prescript to eat her own vocal chords yesterday

“It’s backwards minded in the City to believe you can’t speak without your vocal chords.””

[faint pivot]

I mean to be fair

People literally replace their whole bodies to save money

[cloud wadi]

Hilariously she’s also one of the more independent minded Fausts

With a nuanced view of the prescripts

Who doesn’t rely on the Geschellshaft (mostly because they won’t speak to her)

They still allow her access to their network

But won’t answer any of her questions

Mostly because they know the value of having access to Inside knowledge of the Index even if they fear leaking their own secrets to the Index

She actually finds carrying out the prescripts to be fun and challenging

[faint pivot]

Bold of the Geschellshaft to assume the City doesn't listen /rp

[cloud wadi]

Because it forces her to think to interpret their meanings

So she’s one of the rare independent minded Fausts who’s carrying out real problem solving without cheating with Geschellshaft lmfao

To the point that she decided to kill the messenger because his fake prescripts are lame and low effort

[neat cedar]

pfft

[cloud wadi]

Messenger: “wait wait, but I was just enacting my own prescripts! See, look, here it says: ‘make fake prescripts and distribute it to the proselytes’”

Faust: “okay but have you thought about just not doing that?”

Her prescript was: “kill the liar in front of you”

And his prescript was “distribute fake prescripts”

But it didn’t tell him to lie about it

So I’m guessing that was the trick

He could have gotten out of it by giving her a fake prescripts and telling her that it’s fake, but that she should carry it out anyways

Also an interesting note

Index cloaks apparently gain defensive power the more the index member faithfully executes prescripts

Proselyte Faust mentions that if the messenger had been faithfully doing his duties

There’s no way her sword should have been able to cut through his clothes

So takes it as proof that he is a traitor

[neat cedar]

mood

[cloud wadi]

Honestly I’m actually reminded of hokma’s statement

[neat cedar]

which one?

[cloud wadi]

About Faith

Lemme dig up the relevant conversation

I think index might work in this manner

The real thing Index measures isn’t whether you correctly interpreted a prescript

It’s whether you believe you are correctly furthering index’ goals

Faith

Turned into power to forge ahead

[ebon forge]

Thinking about how the index might we a walking EGO spawner

[cloud wadi]

So the actual interpretation of the prescript isn’t actually important as much as your belief and certitude that what you are doing is correct

[ebon forge]

If only the mortality rate was low enough to let that happen…

[cloud wadi]

It makes sense that index seem to have easier time tapping into distortions and egos tbh

Their central virtue is Faith

[ebon forge]

Also thinking about how I would design the Heishous

[cloud wadi]

Which is what’s principly needed to manifest either

You have to believe in something

For you to be shaken to such a degree to end up in Carmen’s embrace

[ebon forge]

Mmmm

I really like the idea of the heishous being generally count positive or neutral in their OWN status, with their Deathrite being their rupture count source

I like the idea of Don’s bonus damage conditionals being replaced with [Shattermark: On Hit, also take 2 Sinking Potency whenever rupture is consumed]

I also think the Heishous should capitalize more on their absurd coin count potential

[split beacon]

Gesselschaft accidentally creating a fully actualized Faust

[mystic ermine]

I RETURN

so, are we theorising on Faust now?

[cloud wadi]

It’s just really funny that index Faust actually is further ahead on self actualization than most Fausts

Like she won’t ever reach it

But she’s further ahead than most

[quaint cliff]

Faust is a genius so she deserves to be theorized about 24/7

[cloud wadi]

Index did grant her a modicum of what she wanted

The prescripts as always… just works.

[neat cedar]

Rip

the theater stuff was a mistake

[mystic ermine]

this is fuckning flooring me

[cloud wadi]

Soon

[mystic ermine]

I think the ||W Corp|| incident works well for our Faust

[cloud wadi]

Kit reveal

[mystic ermine]

For the [DEVICE]?

[cloud wadi]

For the device yeah

[mystic ermine]

...say
what do you think are the chances that that, too, is going to be recorded by Yesod

I know that there's some glitches on the PDA for newly pulled Identities

[cloud wadi]

0%

[mystic ermine]

and that
that looked
bad

like

that looked bitcrushed kind of bad

[cloud wadi]

0%

[mystic ermine]

What makes you so certain?

no other Trailer has been this fucked up

[neat cedar]

Because Library has nadda to do with Limbus

[cloud wadi]

Yesod doesn’t even work for an information department anymore

And we have seen alternative source of glitched mirrors before

[mystic ermine]

I know, it was a joke

[mystic ermine]

||Carmen||.

I just mean to say that the ID Kit might be a bit "glitchy", too

I had the crackpot thought that maybe Dantes connection to the Mirrors was compromised

[cloud wadi]

No, Carmen’s not the source

If anything Dante is the cause

[neat cedar]

oh i def expect it to be glitchy

[mystic ermine]

Didn't she fuck around and censor some stuff in some uptie stories?

[cloud wadi]

No

She mentions that this mirror is too fucked up to read

She distinctively doesn’t say she caused that

[mystic ermine]

huh, nevermind then

[cloud wadi]

Mirror glitch is caused by Dante’s wish causing such radical change in the backstory of individuals in the mirror that they can’t possibly be the same person as the sinner (yet still is)

If the theories are correct

Index device Don will be Ryoshu’s daughter

Which will invalidate most of Don’s own backstory

Including why she’s wearing Rocinante

[neat cedar]

gllllitch

[gleaming frost]

I want ||Yuri Heng||

Pls Jihoon

Let us save her

[neat cedar]

ah

she's got Bladr Unlock

[cloud wadi]

Looks like Don gets her prescripts on a glorified pager

[neat cedar]

mhmm

also

[mystic ermine]

WHAT

[neat cedar]

thinking she might be a negative coin id?

[mystic ermine]

IT'S HERE NOW??

[neat cedar]

ye

[cloud wadi]

Just kit reveal

Actual release in like

Two theee days

[cloud wadi]

She has skills 1-2,2-2, and 3-2

[neat cedar]

ye

anotger state change

like.kodya and magical.girl

[cloud wadi]

Yeah

[neat cedar]

likely that she only unlocks(heh) each skill depending on unlock level

ans u can jump.right into.it eith her defensd

but u get karmic consequence

[ebon forge]

holy fucking SHIT

[mystic ermine]

alright, so

hear me out

Skull Crushing is a middle thing
Plastered Steps talks about being "silent to your surroundings"

...

I don't know where I?m going with this other than pointing out that there are hints to the other fingers in her Kit

[ebon forge]

dayum

three FUCKING COINS

[cloud wadi]

Three coin counter is standard for index ids it seem

It also gives you shields if you are faithfully executing your prescripts

[ebon forge]

oh god

i know the abnos for this

[mystic ermine]

huh
interesting

[cloud wadi]

It’ll be seven entirely new abnos never seen before

[ebon forge]

wait, prolly

i was expecting fae/wayward, etc

[cloud wadi]

Nah it’s totally fae lmfao

[mystic ermine]

eehh
a bit ambitious, actually

[neat cedar]

also, seems pretty good for potency

[mystic ermine]

I thought they only added a new abno for every MD / Railway

[ebon forge]

faelantern, wayward, ebony queen, ardor blossom, centipede, and idk who lust/sloth would be

[split beacon]

yeah so those glitches weren't from cosmic fuckery

they're to hide InDon's Blade Unlocked state

[neat cedar]

mhmm

[ebon forge]

huhhhhhhhhhh

huhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[mystic ermine]

Maybe she gets an entirely new kit

[mystic ermine]

what... keyword could possibly?

[split beacon]

Hah!

Pinky

wait no, ShinMang

[mystic ermine]

but then what about Jia Qiu?

[ebon forge]

shin/mang probably

[mystic ermine]

or Zilu?

[split beacon]

Zilu never uses Shin or Mang on us

[ebon forge]

wait one sec

GOD DAMMIT

[neat cedar]

lol

[split beacon]

brighter, brighter

[neat cedar]

KJH really said "You thought?"

[split beacon]

until we can shove a Canto 6 transition in there

[neat cedar]

also

this gimmick, if it is a gradual unlock of her kit

is very similar to Emotion pages in ruina

as well.as just the normal index blade unlock.gimmick

going from.Index Faust into this

[split beacon]

this is a Proxy kit

[neat cedar]

is a very good ramp in complexity

ye

[ebon forge]

yeah shes a proxy

[split beacon]

oh fucking

[neat cedar]

my point is more

[split beacon]

of course they hid the fact that she's a Proxy

they didn't want us to know about her Blade Unlocked mechanic at all

[ebon forge]

she might have different affinities on alter skills

[neat cedar]

this can serve as a good building block

for later ids and maybe even ego ids

[ebon forge]

im excited (im forced to wait 2 weeks for my bp to unlock

[split beacon]

Battlepass Unlocked (+1 power to all dice)

[cloud wadi]

Ergo proxy

[ebon forge]

yeah i wonder how don awakened EGO

is her faith just that strong?

[neat cedar]

we're unsure if it's awakened ego yet

i'm.gonna be honest

i think this is like

pseudo distortion

or some faulty ego gear

because look at the unlock status

specifically

combat end SP heal

now why would you need to heal SP at combat end?

i think that her alt skills drain her SP, and that clause resets her to base

so she's not working at -40 sp with mainly positive coin skills

[ebon forge]

a

[neat cedar]

thoughts

[cloud wadi]

Once again the will of the prescripts doth align with mine own

[neat cedar]

Ruina spoilers ||Index took over L.corp's district, so is it likely that what we're seeingnhere is the index reverse engineering ego gear in some fashion for the use of their proxies?||

[cloud wadi]

I doubt it for ||precisely the reason that index took over l Corp district||

Because ||the only major l corp facility in l district, headquarters, was converted into the Library, which currently exists in the outskirts||

I think just naturally ||Index have affinity for ego gear||

[neat cedar]

||Maybe but thrn thr questionnis where did they get it?||

[cloud wadi]

From the Light presumably

[neat cedar]

||But only Lob corp.knew how to.do.extraction||

[cloud wadi]

We’ve seen index ||manipulate situation to get Yan to develop into a distortion, they could easily do it for ego||

[neat cedar]

||So if they didn't reverse engineer it or grab Lob corp employees||

[cloud wadi]

It’s probably a ||personal ego, not ego equipment||

[neat cedar]

||But this isn't a full ego, given.that it seems very likely that it drains sp||

[cloud wadi]

Uh

[neat cedar]

||Which i guess it could.be volatile like phillip||

[cloud wadi]

Full egos drain sp too so

[neat cedar]

Do they?

[cloud wadi]

Yeah hold on

[neat cedar]

Yi sang doesn't

||Phillip does, but that's volatile, which is a possibility||

[worthy haven]

Oh damm was there something said? (I just saw it nevermind)

[cloud wadi]

Yuria is an effloresced ego and she claims in DD that maintaining her ego starts really straining her mind over time. Moses also has a cost associated with using effloresced ego.

[neat cedar]

fair nuff onnthat, though so far

[cloud wadi]

So I think it just might depend on the ego

[neat cedar]

that has not translated into mechanics

personally, i think ||Volatile is more likely||

||If only because this whole vibe screams.instability||

[cloud wadi]

I mean maybe?

If it is an ego it’s an ego that’s been hijacked by the Index

Not true self development

[neat cedar]

||Like nothing about this Don seems fully in line with her own believes of faith||

[cloud wadi]

Whatever that means

[neat cedar]

ye

[cloud wadi]

No no Don is fully in line with her own beliefs and faith

It’s just that her faith is wrong

What’s hokma quote for this

[neat cedar]

I get that

she says that

[neat cedar]

but there is hesitation

therr.is uncertainty

there is insrability

she stutters, she looks haggard

[split beacon]

you're all missing something big

they were hiding that she's a PROXY

[cloud wadi]

Well yeah

[split beacon]

they were hiding her BLADE UNLOCK mechanic

[cloud wadi]

She’s got the blade unlock

[neat cedar]

I mean yeah

[split beacon]

but uh

[neat cedar]

but the Blade unlock isn't like

yhe only thing here

[split beacon]

our illustrious third sinner

isn't there something else about her

[cloud wadi]

But there’s more they are hiding from us

[split beacon]

you can "unlock"

[worthy haven]

||didn't they lose their foothalt again in L after all the proxies got annihilated?||

[cloud wadi]

Oh

Huh

[neat cedar]

hmm

[cloud wadi]

Hmm

I don’t know what to think about that

[worthy haven]

Ohhh

[neat cedar]

that is

an idea

[ebon forge]

||she's officially, 人差し指代行者 - \n開花E.G.O::代行|| (leak stuff but its only uncensoring some text from the don ID)

[cloud wadi]

Prescripts: “take off your shoes”

Tactical nuke incoming

[ebon forge]

lmao

[atomic steeple]

Binds ego on don

[ebon forge]

she uses a little pager

[cloud wadi]

Ergo proxy or whatever

Yeah she gets her prescripts on a little pager

And it seems like her prescripts are, uh

Even more fucked up than message slip prescripts

See

Normal proselytes get reasonable prescripts like

“Eat your own vocal chords”

[neat cedar]

"For 72 minutes kill everyone you see or don't see"

[cloud wadi]

Or “cut off your head, cook it medium rare, and serve it to your neighbor”

She gets

[neat cedar]

she's basically a rabid attack dog

[ebon forge]

"UNLEASH THE DON!"

[cloud wadi]

“People whose eyes you’ve met. People whose eyes you haven’t met. 72 minutes. Kill.”

[ebon forge]

zoomies

[split beacon]

b u r g e r,

[neat cedar]

maybe the device is used because she's not safe enough for a messenger to approach normally

[ebon forge]

1000%

[split beacon]

you know

[ebon forge]

inb4 claw don id

(trust)

[split beacon]

suddenly my theory about unlocking aspects of Don feels uh

more valid

[atomic steeple]

Sure would be a twist if we end up going there in the next parts of canto 9

[cloud wadi]

It’s possible that LCE is located in nest L

Would be pretty on the nose though

[split beacon]

what if her hair is like that because she just straight up is La Creatura and not Don Quixote lol

[cloud wadi]

Did La creatura steal Rocinante

[split beacon]

no like what if she's ||feral sancho||

[ebon forge]

[CENSORED]
[CENSORED CENSORED CENSORED]

[CENSORED]

[cloud wadi]

Oh maybe

[atomic steeple]

It's the cloth rewards for doing prescripts
Faust herself gained cloth for her cloak in the uptie

[ebon forge]

yeah when its long enough ig you become a proxy

[cloud wadi]

Yes but also the cloaks lose defensive power if you aren’t doing prescripts

Even if it had defensive power before

[split beacon]

she might have been speaking figuratively

[cloud wadi]

I’m uh

Fairly sure it’s literal

[split beacon]

ie that if you were doing your Prescripts, this wouldn't go down this way, because the will of the prescript would protect you

[neat cedar]

maybr, but we do have it as a literal mechanic

[atomic steeple]

Interesting

[neat cedar]

in karmic consequence

so i'm liable to say that it can wotk.that way

[ebon forge]

whats interesting is how the dude was like

[neat cedar]

would be far from.the weirdest but of tech magic in thr city

[ebon forge]

"i was told to deliever fake prescripts!"

"but you were not told to lie about them being fake, correct?"

[cloud wadi]

Yeah that’s why I believe that what’s actually important is faith that you are faithfully executing your duties

Not actual obedience to the words

[ebon forge]

night yall

[cloud wadi]

If you are confident that you have resolved the prescript

Index is satisfied

[neat cedar]

you basically can't just be doingnitnjust to do it

[cloud wadi]

If you aren’t confident

[neat cedar]

you gotta believe it

which is why faust thrives

[cloud wadi]

Index kills you for it

[neat cedar]

becaue she views it like a puzzle

[split beacon]

so the index just systematically purges anxious members huh

[neat cedar]

mental fidget toy

seems like

[cloud wadi]

Yeah which is why all the proxies are like

Some of the most poised and cheerful people

[neat cedar]

and it makes sense, because the entire thing is built on, as mention before

Blind Faith

so it needs people who are certain in their beliefs

[cloud wadi]

If you have doubts

You get purged

If you are sure what you did is the correct interpretation of the prescript

You are spared

[neat cedar]

def helps to make.the index even more sinister

[split beacon]

not sure that it's conviction you did it right because there are instances of Index members confidently assuming they did their Prescript right and then getting got in the Yan story

where they only break when the Proxies are like "uh sorry bud"

[cloud wadi]

They weren’t confident

He says so himself

He did everything

Which means he wasn’t sure about any of the methods he tried

So he did everything he could’ve thought of

[neat cedar]

He didn't know what to do, ye

[split beacon]

hmm

[neat cedar]

and then Gloria just hit him.with the "Well.here's what i would have done"

[cloud wadi]

Yeah

And she’s 100% confident it’s the right interpretation

And index would’ve been satisfied with that confidence

[split beacon]

the Index being a confidence scam is at least a funny idea

[neat cedar]

or at the very least a Proxy would have been satisfied, probably

like it's entirely based on interpretation

[cloud wadi]

Yeah

[atomic steeple]

Why?

[cloud wadi]

Because she heals sp at combat and

It’s a nonsensical passive

[neat cedar]

^

[cloud wadi]

Unless she is a negative coin user in her blade unlock state

[split beacon]

well

the one weird thing about that is this

[cloud wadi]

Alternatively I guess it could be to encourage more index targeting

[neat cedar]

It resets her

basically

because the unlock resets

each combat

it's not like Kodya

[cloud wadi]

I’m not ready to fight index proselytes next part of this canto

[atomic steeple]

Shin?

[neat cedar]

where u can just swap.to a different state

she gradually unlocks her stronger skills via the prescripts

[cloud wadi]

Shin probably yeah

[neat cedar]

or so is my guess

[cloud wadi]

I need more powerful egos for Don

[neat cedar]

what don needs

is better sinking egos

[split beacon]

okay

[neat cedar]

or a different poise one

[split beacon]

I'm smelling it

[cloud wadi]

Powerful poise ego

[split beacon]

I'm smelling the designspace here

[neat cedar]

ye

it's a neat vibe

[split beacon]

it's Philipclair 2

[neat cedar]

exactly

[split beacon]

you build up SP

as you unlock the funny skills

[cloud wadi]

Spend it in blade unlock state

[split beacon]

and then you go funnymode

[cloud wadi]

And then after everyone is dead

You regain SP

So that you aren’t starting from 0 next fight in mirror dungeons

[atomic steeple]

Roasted him, lmao

[atomic steeple]

This would make the index a very reasonable finger to work for
If you maintain faith and critical thinking, you can do your duties while not literally following the orders

[neat cedar]

technically yes

[atomic steeple]

Like the artist who kept anxiously trying interpretations

[neat cedar]

the issue is, as stated befor

it is also.entirely up to interpretation

so if u get a proxy who doesn't fully believe what ur selling

then u get iced

or a proselyte in the case of Fausr

[atomic steeple]

Poise. Poise is good

[neat cedar]

ye her only poise id atm is wishingncairn

which isn't bad

but very specific

[atomic steeple]

No. Proxies only punish you if they receive a prescript to punish you

[neat cedar]

fair

still inhesitate to call the index "reasonable"

[atomic steeple]

There's no treason. Only the state of following the prescripts

[atomic steeple]

Compared to other fingers

[neat cedar]

yes

even in that context

[atomic steeple]

Thumb and middle are on a hair trigger to kill

[neat cedar]

indeed but you know the line

the Middle and Thumb make that line incredibly clear

[atomic steeple]

Thumb has etiquette rules outsiders don't fully understand

[neat cedar]

and Thumb is hair trigger to mutiliate rather than kill

Outsiders ye

[worthy haven]

Is it time to run 5 sinking with full stop duo (doesn't quite work out for MD yet but still)

[neat cedar]

but i assume we're talking about being in the finger

I don't think any of the Fingers can be considered as reasonable

it's really a "pick your poison" scenario

because any and all.of them can kill or cause you to die for no true fault of your own

[shadow fractal]

hey so the redacted skills on the new ID have to be ||sword|| skills right?
some of the moves in the trailer looked like they would use one as well

[neat cedar]

i don't think so

she seems.to.be using claws from.the images people managed to snap going frame by frame

like i don't think this is the aporentice, but willing to he wrong on that

[shadow fractal]

ooh that'd be cool for a blade
I'm just going off what I've seen in the canto so far and some theories I saw on twt

[atomic steeple]

Be the sword yourself

[shadow fractal]

speaking of swords, I saw someone mention the kill bill vibes coming from this canto and its crazy how well it fits
||we even got characters that match elle driver, o-ren ishii, and bill an stuff we even got a missing kid||

[faint pivot]

Imagine if this is actually how the passive looks

Like how Pegasus genuinely has a joke passive

[stoic fjord]

Oh my god even the preview is glitched

Inb4 we finally get her in game and this is genuinely what it looks like there too

[atomic steeple]

The uptie preview is glitched

[stoic fjord]

I'm calling fucking bullshit right now they're doing some ARG fuckery i can feel it

[vagrant dove]

https://www.reddit.com/r/limbuscompany/comments/1q3xws9/now_that_weve_seen_the_udjat_are_with_the_lca/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

[worthy haven]

lmao+

[stoic fjord]

I'm genuinely all in on this being a misdirect and it being ARG shit

Like

In my bones

I am 100% sure

[atomic steeple]

Get her bone marrow!

[mystic ermine]

He is simply built like that

[atomic steeple]

Been kicking around kits in my head for characters from a story I like
Have one have a passive that grants dps buff if she has more breakdown pages, and a support buff if she has more awakening
Another would be like liu but with ranged attacks

[mystic ermine]

Good job

So called "Free Thinkers" when

[cosmic gorge]

i got seven fau

[atomic steeple]

https://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/a-little-vice-trans-magical-girl-fic.115005/post-37252244

Unstable heart: gains power to offensive dice when possessing more breakdown abno pages. Gives 2 more of positive statuses to allies when possessing more awakening abno pages
Ivigoration: Clear feeble on allies when affecting them
Wind pressure: Inflicts bind when ???. When granting power/strength to allies, amplify it

[stoic fjord]

@seojee10

[atomic steeple]

Ugh I can never get the third sword to pierce her

Knight despair

I'm frustrated, gonna do invitations for now

[lean fjord]

What's messing you up?

[dusty sigil]

Man, with that kit reveal

I’m so certain that Don is Ryoshu’s kid ID

[atomic steeple]

Stopping the swords from doing danage

[dusty sigil]

There’s legitimately 0 reason to do all of this for just another index ID

[split beacon]

prockshee

[dusty sigil]

She’s gotta be Ryoshu’s kid

[dusty sigil]

Even for a proxy ID

There’s no reason to be doing this for a Yan ID

This is so much for anyone but Ryoshu’s kid

[split beacon]

there is one thing that comes to mind

they might make the ||Index apprentice|| not Ryoshu's kid but still a core character of the coming Canto

[dusty sigil]

I feel like if the index apprentice was just another apprentice they would have been revealed already in the canto

But them being mysteriously absent just makes it even more likely in my mind

[lean fjord]

Not winning your clashes?

Did you do Shi reception already?

[dusty sigil]

Is Udjat Outis sinking count positive?

[atomic steeple]

Yes

I am using singular strike

[lean fjord]

she's very mildly negative natively, but Blue Sand makes her neutral/positive

[dusty sigil]

Ah ok

[lean fjord]

she's -1 count on all her skills, but then Blue Sand gives +1 count on clash win 3/turn

so you're fine as long as you hit S3 regularly

[dusty sigil]

[gentle mulch]

FIVE PASSIVES???

[brave badger]

||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=razqvi5t2dc|| spoilered just in case

[atomic steeple]

Beat knight of despair

[gentle mulch]

nice

[lean fjord]

two of them are just explaining the common Index mechanics tbf

[atomic steeple]

Thumb down!

[ebon forge]

@stoic fjord https://www.rxddit.com/r/limbuscompany/comments/1q4mzcm/valencina_and_lucio_by_rookie_88/

[split beacon]

she really does have a striking visual design

combined with a HORRIBLE personality

[neat cedar]

mhmm

she's also

the messiest looking Thumb memver

we've ever seen

not like super messy

but the thumb is all about discipline and decorum

[split beacon]

it kinda makes me wonder if the Nursefather position puts you outside of the normal rank structure of the fingers

[neat cedar]

so her with the undone tie and the open blose gices a certain vibe

[split beacon]

Valencina probably doesn't have a superior outside the Capo dei Capi

[neat cedar]

i do wonder

[split beacon]

who probably is more concerned with the Spiders' House project rather than Valencina's dress code compliance

[worthy haven]

It kinda seems that way seeing as the House of Spiders is apparently categorized as a subsidiary

[split beacon]

this slash lux is devious

[atomic steeple]

What are the ruina builds that reliably block/evade?

[split beacon]

at where you're at in the game

ferrous guard sweepers lol

[atomic steeple]

Sweepers, okay thanks

[keen palm]

Valencia seems like shes of similar stature to Lei Heng

So either a capo or a sottocapo

[uneven canopy]

||https://youtu.be/M0hNwfNsM88|| canto 9 part 1
||Smacking you with my shitty little maracas until you leave||

[worthy haven]

I would assume she is "just" a capo

As it seems that the ringfather is a maestro

The biggest outlier is prob index father with his apparently former star of the city status

[atomic steeple]

Oh forgot the ferrous guard
Gonna try again with it later

[uneven canopy]

https://youtu.be/Q6PgPcb5FnQ

[atomic steeple]

Oh don't have ferrous guard yet

[keen palm]

They all seem to be star of the city level

[cloud wadi]

Yeah

Valencina ||being able to go toe to toe with Vergil for a significant amount of time||

And even ||being able to tie him up for quite a while when he’s trying to hurry||

Suggests ||she’s a star of the city level threat on her own||

Or nearly there anyways

[atomic steeple]

Could ranged pages that cost charge instead of exhausting themselves work?

[worthy haven]

god I am powerfarming for exp tickets since my stock was annihilated

[atomic steeple]

https://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/a-little-vice-trans-magical-girl-fic.115005/post-37252244
Could grab ||distorted yan|| mechanics from star of the city too

[golden meadow]

What frame would each sinner pilot?

[hybrid lynx]

quixote gets a nelson vlad mix

[unique bane]

yi sang is probably mourning cloak or sunzi
faust is swallowtail
don is a nelson
ryoshu, maybe a white witch? i think she could appreciate how that mech can just obliterate someone
muersault probably pilots an everest
hong lu probably pilots an atlas
heathcliff i'm not sure about
ish pilots a zheng
sinclair pilots a lycan
rodion pilots a tokugawa
outis pilots a kidd
gregor pilots a gilgamesh

[golden meadow]

I think Mersault would pilot a Zheng (cause of base ID)

[golden meadow]

Ishmael could pilot an atlas due to how it’s used for hunting

[split beacon]

got infaust

its prescript time

[unique bane]

i was thinking of how both ish and xiong xiaoli are both survivors

[cosmic gorge]

Greg pilots an empakaai

[bronze zephyr]

Mmmm yeah

[atomic steeple]

Saw index don described as clicker trained

The Ruima references are strong this canto
Index father looks like Roland, we get an index member with maybe unstable ego or riding the line of distortion.
Hopefully we get the thumb distortion we almost got in ruina, but was deemed too gruesome. It'd be Boris becoming a representation of the cruel system of the thumb. And lucio is a good candidate for that

[karmic escarp]

gilg greg is so smart actually

[ebon forge]

Index Don is just mechsploitation lmao

[faint pivot]

HUH

How do we know about him being an ex SotC

[faint pivot]

This tracks to me

[atomic steeple]

https://www.rxddit.com/r/limbuscompany/comments/1q4zcdq/metamorphosis_pepepegle/

[faint pivot]

But I don't recall anyone being DQed

[atomic steeple]

Udjat outis

[faint pivot]

I need these IDs...

[atomic steeple]

You can read online

The wiki gg has upties

[ebon forge]

I want to draw more indon

[atomic steeple]

Don thighs...

[ebon forge]

Don is packin

[faint pivot]

Ik

[faint pivot]

I was just reminded that they look awesome to play

[atomic steeple]

Should I use bleed against the scarecrows? Or maybe grab udjats? I think 3 thumb books could get them

[split beacon]

imma be real you just beat fuck outta those scarecrows

[atomic steeple]

Okay then

Grab the nukes

[split beacon]

blocking or evading their cards gives you more Wisdoms

and then what ya do

is ya take Blunt power up passives

to make Wisdom hit like a freight train when you use it

[atomic steeple]

So, gotta rob yesod of the build I gave his floor

I put on him my blunt and debuffs build

[split beacon]

and then you crack their heads

and squeeze all the stolen wisdom out of em

[atomic steeple]

Kay, thanks!

Tomorrow I will claim their skulls

[lean fjord]

Scarecrow is entirely just getting those evades to get more Wisdom

and then you beat it up with whatever

[fickle crown]

This is late but consider Yi Sang in a Dusk Wing

[unique bane]

i could see that too

[fickle crown]

Also Heathcliff would probably have a Blackbeard and maybe Ishmael a Vlad?

Meursault also strikes me as the kind of guy to run a Saladin

Gregor could also have an Empakaai?

[split beacon]

you wanna talk about art, Ryoshu is a Metalmark pilot

it's not about having the finest weapons or the most high-end gear, it's about technique

[fickle crown]

I think it also feeds well into her "just don't get hit lmao" strategy with her base ID

Also while I don't know if it's entirely in character for her, I think Rodion would have a Kobold instead

I think it fits better with her general themes of trying to strike at the people far above her

[split beacon]

absolutely

plays into the need to be special too

[stoic fjord]

I wonder if Dante could get a mech too

[atomic steeple]

Toku ryoshu

[fickle crown]

Dante gets a Lancaster

Because the sinners treat them like their healbitch early on

[stoic fjord]

lmao

[stoic fjord]

I think Toku might moreso fit her as a person rather than being what she'd pilot, if you know what I mean?

[fickle crown]

Also Metalmark starts to make more sense when you realize she and it both have themes of obscuring stuff

[stoic fjord]

I wonder if any of the sinners besides Ryoshu have kids

[fickle crown]

Nah

Definitely not

Actually maybe Outis

If she's accurate (somewhat) to her narrative counterpart she might have had a family

I say had past tense because knowing the city, they probably died horribly

[stoic fjord]

family (past tense) seems quite common

[fickle crown]

Faust also would probably be Goblin

Which is stereotypical but it makes sense in context I think

Base Faust plays into the idea of her hitting first to make it easier for everyone later

And while I'm a little loathe to say it, Outis could have an Enkidu instead

Outis is (imo) built almost entirely around attacking enemies that are already suffering

The Enkidu loves that

[worthy haven]

Nah faust is pegasus or lich

SHE KNOWS THE OUTCOME

[fickle crown]

Faust Knows All But Also She Lacks The Capacity To Act On It Like Ninety Percent Of The Time

She's the kind of person to say she predicted all of your attacks and she still gets punched in the face because she's unable to really do anything about it

[worthy haven]

she still is ranked 5 in combat prowess!

above hongler

[ebon forge]

Faust would be really fucking scary if she had the abilities of a color

predicts all your attacks

[stoic fjord]

inb4 blue reverberation faust for Walp

or smth idk

[worthy haven]

Just wait until we get out mephistopheles ego gear Faust

[ebon forge]

teleports behind you

deletes your ass

[stoic fjord]

what color fixer would Faust get an ID for

if any

[ebon forge]

builds a nuclear bomb with your dna

[ebon forge]

Angelica

[stoic fjord]

just a grade 1 fixer tbh

[stoic fjord]

||Black Silence...||

it would be peak and I would go for it

hrm

the more I think about it

the more I think Roland Heathcliff would work

[ebon forge]

Honestly that’s color equivalent already lol

[worthy haven]

One day

we will get

[ebon forge]

Rolandcliff is obvious though

[worthy haven]

The Spirit that negates Faust

[ebon forge]

Who gets the Binah ID

Outis is an obvious choice

[stoic fjord]

Dong-hwan is not equivalent to any of those mfs

[ebon forge]

Aren’t there grade 1s who killed colors before

[worthy haven]

insert classic colour is not rank given due to combat prowess alone comment

[ebon forge]

Or wait no am I thinking of SoTCs