Project Moon Games: Lobcorp, Ruina, Etc.

[fickle crown]

also was Gloria a capo

I forgot

[cloud wadi]

Proxy

[fickle crown]

oh

I am confused lmao

I thought we were talking about distortion detective

[stoic fjord]

True, I imagine people have carved out enough of a life to be comfortable having children

[cloud wadi]

Point is there’s like multiple incidents where finger memvers break down doors to kill people

So it would be silly to assume that residential buildings are totally out of touch

For the fingers

So Mi’s page is clearly erroneous in that regard

[stoic fjord]

Hmmmm

[fickle crown]

I think it's less "don't attack residential areas" more "hey don't demolish an entire building fuckwit"

[ebon forge]

Probably

[cloud wadi]

I don’t think that’s true either tbh

[stoic fjord]

How the hell did Limbus get the bus classified as a residential accommodation anyways

[cloud wadi]

Papa Don demolishes a wide area of the backstreet when his amusement park reappears

Again, no action from the head

[fickle crown]

oh yea

[atomic steeple]

It's only during 3 am

[cloud wadi]

Pianist also totally demolished several blocks of the backstreets

No action from the head

Philippe melts down several blocks of a Nest

Head couldn’t give a shit

[fickle crown]

I wonder how it works then

[stoic fjord]

Overpenetration by 2 cm vs. Annihilating a square mile of urban land

Which one is the punishable crime

[unique bane]

naraka's temporary though
i think he's more acknowledging they're gonna go there but they're gonna get out with their sins cleansed

[stoic fjord]

Yeah true

[cloud wadi]

Damaging residential buildings during night in the backstreets is forbidden

[stoic fjord]

More against that moment being wrathful ig

Bro is so kind and forgiving

[cloud wadi]

Otherwise you are free to blow up entire sections of the city if you want

[gentle mulch]

mfw two color fixers fight and they get executed because the collateral damaged a high rise

[cloud wadi]

Yeah

Purple tear severs entire buildings while fighting Vergil

Again, head couldn’t give a shit

[atomic steeple]

Oh lol
Hell maiden is a game that also starts with an amnesiac dante

[gentle mulch]

LET'S GOOOO

[stoic fjord]

from what we know

I feel like there's genuinely nothing the Head could not crush under its heel without a second thought

like

[cloud wadi]

They can handle all the abnormalities at once if things really got that far

[atomic steeple]

Devyat sinclair also breaks through buildings and kills people

[stoic fjord]

they got multiple arbiters

||Kali vs. Garion was mutual destruction, iirc||

[gentle mulch]

heishou rams

[cloud wadi]

And Faust and Outis seemed convinced that head would be able to take care of the seaborne eventually

[stoic fjord]

like fucking no one is beating the Head

[stoic fjord]

I'd believe it

[cloud wadi]

Only real issue was the seaborne absorbing head’s technologies

[stoic fjord]

I think even then they could eradicate them before they developed enough to be immune

[cloud wadi]

The real issue was the seaborne then sharing those evolution with their brethren back in arknights world

And then becoming a world ending threat there

More of a*

[cosmic gorge]

Just get a blue twink to deal with it, easy

[gentle mulch]

what if they absorb blue twinks

[stoic fjord]

what do we do when they adapt to 7 mang

[cloud wadi]

Use 8

[stoic fjord]

wait can people adjust the amount of mang they manifest

like

[gentle mulch]

byeah

[cloud wadi]

Yes

[cosmic gorge]

I meant the blue twink from AK, the one thats already a seaborn
his is how the AK roguelike featuring seaborn ends

[cloud wadi]

Vergil uses one or two for trivial threats

[stoic fjord]

okay so Demian could theoretically have like, another 20 rings up his ass

[cloud wadi]

Three when he’s really trying

Etc

Yeah

[atomic steeple]

Seeing virgil as a friendly anime girl chasing dante is such wild whiplash from other depictions

[cosmic gorge]

Wording!

[cloud wadi]

Demian was hardly trying

When he manifested 7 rings

So

Reasonably he might have even more

[stoic fjord]

he gently floated down and then gently swept his hand through the air while manifesting the mang without even concentrating

[cloud wadi]

It’s either that

[stoic fjord]

I'm willing to bet he has at least double the amount he summoned or some shit

[ebon forge]

Demian… how strong is he?

[cloud wadi]

Or he has achieved such sublime enlightenment

[stoic fjord]

we don't even fucking know

[gentle mulch]

i do have this theory that to generate more mang you need to exert less effort/enter a further state of lightlessness

[ebon forge]

Like bruh if you have 14 mang are you stronger than a fucking arbiter or some shit?

[stoic fjord]

the first time we saw him he insta-gibbed Kromer without trying and then fucked off

[cloud wadi]

That his gentle swipe is equivalent to heightened concentration anyways

[stoic fjord]

also possible

[gentle mulch]

The Winged Tiger was barely able to manifest one

[neat cedar]

Tbf

[gentle mulch]

Vergil manifested two and let gravity be the blow essentially

[neat cedar]

manifestung one at all

[gentle mulch]

then rocked one with the gladius

[neat cedar]

without any training

is insane work

[gentle mulch]

jia qiu manifested five and did a gentle swipe

[stoic fjord]

that would be interesting but also (Canto 8 Spoilers) ||Jia Qiu has an entire fucking manifested E.G.O aiui and has 5||

[gentle mulch]

demian didn't even touch the guy

[gentle mulch]

yeah and it was described as a gentle swipe

[stoic fjord]

bro amplified the slight breeze generated

[stoic fjord]

what does that have to do with lightlessness

[ebon forge]

Jia Qiu is a monster already

Like

[neat cedar]

Lightlessness as in weight

[stoic fjord]

.....what?

[neat cedar]

not Light

[ebon forge]

Dude held back against like, a ton of N corp right

[stoic fjord]

wouldn't that be weightlessness?

or. lightness?

[neat cedar]

ye

[gentle mulch]

if it helps yes, it's more about the meaning than the name

[neat cedar]

Basically the more enlightened, the less effort

[stoic fjord]

isn't he also like. big spoilers I think ||the Jade Qilin? apparently according to removed dialogue but also the source text?||

[gentle mulch]

to be without really being

[ebon forge]

Yeah he is iirc

[stoic fjord]

though he doesn't really have the color scheme

[neat cedar]

||That is a theorynwith only vague backing atm||

[stoic fjord]

yeah fair

[neat cedar]

||Not impossible, but far from.confirmed||

[stoic fjord]

I figure we'll get at least a tiny bit of followup this canto

[neat cedar]

this us a blue fucker cant9

[stoic fjord]

I would say likely-ish but nothing confirmable

[neat cedar]

so we're def gonna learn a lot

[stoic fjord]

it's also the All the Fingers Are Here canto

[neat cedar]

we always do with blue fucker cantos

[stoic fjord]

blue fucker cantos drop lore bombs on us and then fuck off for a year to leave us to go rabid with theories

[gentle mulch]

i do really hope we move away from spotlighting the Ring though

[neat cedar]

Demian gunna drop by like "where's the fuckin sheep"

[gentle mulch]

we've seen so much of the Ring i think it'd be wasted potential if we didn't get more of any other fingers

[neat cedar]

"been like 2 years man"

"it's not that hard"

[gentle mulch]

"you owe me my goddamn sheep have you even made any attempts at drawing"

[stoic fjord]

I think there'll be a ring focus but like, not like, a focus focus

like

[neat cedar]

We'll get each of the fingera in turn

[stoic fjord]

33%, with the other 66% of the finger stuff divvied up between the other 4

[neat cedar]

but acr 1 is def gunna be at least Ring

[gentle mulch]

i just hope it's not like

[neat cedar]

prob index too

[stoic fjord]

such that they're the majority but not the only focus

[gentle mulch]

heishous but ring

[neat cedar]

highly doubt that

[stoic fjord]

I think Index, Ring, and Thumb we're set to know a lot more about

[gentle mulch]

i really hope like 11% max is Ring focus

[stoic fjord]

Middle we might get a little bit of as a treat

[ebon forge]

Why is N Corp so interested in us anyways

[stoic fjord]

Pinky they'll probably vaguepost about, have a certain brother come to aura farm, and then give us enough to rabidly theorize for another season

[gentle mulch]

N-emies

[ebon forge]

https://tenor.com/view/ajr-ajr-brothers-blue-man-group-ordinaryish-people-gif-25074217

[neat cedar]

also

tbh

[stoic fjord]

and I will continuously tweak out about IDs each time they enable a new triple status

[ebon forge]

Also, ever time yall say blue man I think of these fucks

[neat cedar]

we know like

[stoic fjord]

or double status

[neat cedar]

jack and shit

about the Ring

[stoic fjord]

I can start calling them Sovereigns of a Star

[neat cedar]

like we have an idea

[stoic fjord]

yeah, with everything factored in, I think we actually know the most about the Thumb?

or the Index

[neat cedar]

Thumb and Middle

[stoic fjord]

yeah

[neat cedar]

Index is only if ur a ruina guy

[stoic fjord]

yeah but I said everything factored in

full franchise

[neat cedar]

fair nuff

[stoic fjord]

Thumb and Index based off of that

Index is least if you're Limbus only

[neat cedar]

Pinky

[stoic fjord]

Middle is... in the middle

[neat cedar]

Like index is not super known

but also

[stoic fjord]

we at least know a little bit, there's actually nothing about the Index in Limbus that I can remember

[neat cedar]

it'a very simple

[stoic fjord]

we know about the blades of the east, we know some fairly major members, we know it's weird and mysterious

but also you have a point yeah

[neat cedar]

like qe know a lot about the structure of the index

but not really it's history

[stoic fjord]

inb4 we find out about the Palm and our entire worldview is shattered

[neat cedar]

lol

honestly

that might be what spider house is

[stoic fjord]

true...

[neat cedar]

also, it seeeems

that Ryoshu os probably a member of the pinky, mainly

[cloud wadi]

Pinky is most associated with ryoshu in that trailer yes

Maybe she inherited her position from her bio mom

[stoic fjord]

She's gotta be one of the ten blades right

[cloud wadi]

Which is why we have a woman who berated her

[stoic fjord]

Or is that too obvious of a choice

[cloud wadi]

Saying her being born ruined her life

Will this also be the surprise gun canto

God

All I want is a full Udjat team

This Outis doesn’t seem to have ammo reload mechanic

Which is mildly worrying

[neat cedar]

i imagine it'll go like

theybeither don't have to worry about reloading

cause dias

or theynjust smack down regardless when mask is up

but if Dias just has the money to give her goons unlimited ammo

that would be funny

and terrifying

but also, only ammo skill seems to be s3 as well

[cloud wadi]

Goth Loli Outis meanwhile…

[neat cedar]

plz no

do not call her that

plz

[cloud wadi]

Barefoot Outis in one piece dress

[neat cedar]

KJH, really said "Put outis in a onesie"

i cannot defend him

[stoic fjord]

https://tenor.com/view/ricardo-limbus-company-limbus-guess-whos-gif-12860457268017387681

[neat cedar]

he knows the evil he unleashes by now

[stoic fjord]

...

I should check something

be right back

[cloud wadi]

Are you going to fishmael

[stoic fjord]

not yet

okay well I did only check one artist brb

[stoic fjord]

wha

[cloud wadi]

Wait a minute

Scissoring Outis is a Zayin

It’ll have to replace the Odyssey!

[neat cedar]

. . .

i'll acceot it to the alternative

but i won't like it

[stoic fjord]

I wonder if it'll be good enough to be a replacement

[cosmic gorge]

What are yall talking about 😭

[neat cedar]

i mean it just has to.be cinsistentnin clashing

[neat cedar]

new outis ego

[cosmic gorge]

Why are yall calling her that 😭

[mystic ermine]

she has scissors

[cosmic gorge]

Hmm
Its based on that rock paper scissors ghost girl with the southern accent no

[neat cedar]

dom't put that evil on me

and ye

which is even more evidence that Outis is nit the traitor

[dusty sigil]

I mean, it’s mentioned (somewhere in Ruina but I don’t remember where) that life for the average city citizen isn’t like, instant death

Most people’s lives are just very, boring

Mundanely terrible

They work themselves to the bone to pay for their shitty apartment, pay off whatever finger owns this section of the backstreets and the occasionally luxury

So long as they stay indoors during a night in the backstreets and make sure to pay their dues and taxes on times, they will live

[cloud wadi]

Yeah

It’s just that the story only focuses around high tension moments

[gentle mulch]

i can't imagine that leading to having children though. seems like another reason to buckle down and. yk. not do that. kids cost a lot

[cloud wadi]

Where people do die in droves

My guess

[dusty sigil]

Poor people have kids irl and face pretty much all those difficulties (besides the sweepers obviously)

[cloud wadi]

Secret cloning facilities

Creating roving bands of orphans constantly

To maintain population level

[gentle mulch]

That is true, but the birthrates in those kinds of conditions irl iirc aren't outweighing the death rate

[cloud wadi]

And also immigration from outskirts

If the City is metaphor for modern korea

It should be having a demographic crisis yes

[uneven canopy]

time for the gang to cause a financial crisis

[gentle mulch]

Maybe life in the City is cyclical in a more spiritual way and that's why it's not really touched on. Or maybe it is genuinely having that crisis and it'll get talked about in the huge population drop.

[dusty sigil]

I guess that’s fair, but it’s not like everyone who lives in the backstreets is living at bottom of the barrel. There’s layers to this barrel

[gentle mulch]

The Gang Sells RAM Sticks

[dusty sigil]

Some people in the backstreets are more comparable to like, a paycheck to paycheck lifestyle

Some even live in luxury

Not counting the nests

[cloud wadi]

Point is that if education is kept high and poor people in the backstreets are living paycheck to paycheck yeah

[gentle mulch]

Yeah, I agree. I think our perspectives differ in the "is that enough to have a stable population though?"

[cloud wadi]

Demographic crisis is probably gonna be the result

[dusty sigil]

That’s fair

Also there is always the possibility of: no

It isn’t stable

[gentle mulch]

it's not like i have a census for the City so i can't say

[dusty sigil]

There’s just enough of a large population already it’s not really noticeable yet

[cloud wadi]

The head seems to view the city as their ow personal terrarium

[dusty sigil]

We know there’s like, 6 billion I think

[cloud wadi]

So they’ll probably adjust things to keep population stable

Even if they won’t mess with things all too much

[dusty sigil]

That’s a large enough population that even with bad numbers it’ll be a while before a dip is felt

[cloud wadi]

Also

Lot of nests seem to have radically different cultures

[dusty sigil]

Yah

[cloud wadi]

Like S Corp is agrarian rural economy

[dusty sigil]

Could be some that encourage families for profit reasons

[cloud wadi]

Which I can buy resulting in lots of children because children can serve as laborers in such economies

Oh

Wait yeah child labor is legal in the city

[gentle mulch]

child labor is encouraged

[cloud wadi]

Well that might explain the population then

[dusty sigil]

They yearn for it

Children yearn for x Corp

[cloud wadi]

Poor people are incentivized to have children because they could be a potential ticket out of poverty

[gentle mulch]

oh that's a possibility

[neat cedar]

Idol Industry, is that you

[ebon forge]

What.

[stoic fjord]

scissors outis

[main scaffold]

please don't shorten the name of that ever again

Charlie! ↩️

[Reply to:](#1208554035326484531 message) Goth Loli Outis meanwhile…

[neat cedar]

Charlie cauaing irl aggro with one short sentence

[atomic steeple]

I am serious
Do not say that

[uneven canopy]

is it a lolita onesie?

[faint pivot]

Tbh EGO carrying over is one of the few things that keep me sane

[neat cedar]

I mean, no one else has said it?

[neat cedar]

vaguely in that style, enough for the joke to land

[atomic steeple]

Emphasizing

[faint pivot]

-# Thumb...? THE Thumb......?

[cosmic gorge]

That is the primary function of children in less prosperous societies yes

I speak from living in one of them

However we dont actually see a lot of poor families now do we

[faint pivot]

Iirc in that latest preview, the last scene is Ryo speaking and her pinky being bound to her daughter's

[faint pivot]

She didn't even shrink the thing is just huge 😭

[ebon forge]

can i have a scissoring hoodie

[faint pivot]

You know

That thing being blocked by the Index person looks an awful lot like an escape ellevator

Also I wonder how many coins Scissors Outis is gonna roll

I can't tell if that's 2, 3 or a bloody 4 coin Zayin

It's interesting how the two Waws differ in their focus

Yi Sang breaks the present and future to bits in order to be rid of the past

[faint pivot]

I'm not sure what her last line means but Ryoshu seemingly aims to recreate the past and future to break...either the present cycle or her current ties

I've said this for Yinglong and I'll say it again...just what are we fighting for this railway?

[neat cedar]

who knows

but it's going to be bullshit

[faint pivot]

Really really really hope they get to squeeze in Yinglong too

Wasted opportunity if it gets swept to the wayside

What status is this thing even getting

[unique bane]

i think he is already rid of the past
he's just destroying the present and future the same way

[unique bane]

the final word is something about the structure of the universe iirc

[faint pivot]

Nay he says that that'll happen shortly after narrating what he does (fracturing the present and future)

[ebon forge]

https://www.rXddit.com/r/limbuscompany/comments/1px2k5e/the_new_outis_stuff_is_great_bwos/

[mystic ermine]

Ah
Somebody seems to have pinged me
But
No clue where

I mean
Irs here
But I can't see rhe message

Interesting

[cloud wadi]

Bets on LCE team fucking dying btw

[tiny cave]

is that 300 mill or 2.3 bil

can't tell if the left side says 8 or 6

[ebon forge]

2.3 billion

[neat cedar]

Hoenheimm must live

for maximun suffering

[cloud wadi]

how about everyone but hohenheim though

[gentle mulch]

outis

please outis

[faint pivot]

Twas me remarking that I'd be insane by now if EGO didn't carry over

[mystic ermine]

Oh! I see

[cosmic gorge]

Fellas does the rock paper scissors abnormality and the hurting teddy bear abnormality feel too similar aesthetic wise

[ebon forge]

https://www.rxddit.com/r/limbuscompany/comments/1px4e2w/ryoclair_christmas_angel/

[cosmic gorge]

To me it does

Theyre both purple, are a darker take on a childhood concept, and have nails

[fickle crown]

That's because they're a paired abnormality I think

My understanding is that the girl is the one that abused Hurting Teddy in the first place

[stoic fjord]

especially with the child being overtly violent, the voodoo doll gift, and the teddy bear having nails driven through it

[cosmic gorge]

Hmm true

Outis stabbing rodion and sinclair

[fickle crown]

I think it makes sense in the context of them being a pair

Also Faust having Hex Nail is uh

Scarier in retrospect

[cosmic gorge]

Wdym by this btw

[cosmic gorge]

Her corrosion is unsettling

[faint pivot]

She puppets her way through life and is puppetted by ||Gesellschaft||, after all

[fickle crown]

Well there's also the corrosion

[faint pivot]

1st wielder btw

[fickle crown]

With its allusion to miscarriage of all things

[cloud wadi]

the Scissors tells you the truth

[fickle crown]

Maybe Faust thinks she was born in an unnatural manner?

[cloud wadi]

even though she looks like she's trying to trick you

it's just that you don't know the rules to her game

[faint pivot]

Where? In the toy box?

[cloud wadi]

cookie box

[fickle crown]

Yeah

[faint pivot]

Oh oops

I understood that as like

Just cannibalism tbh

[cloud wadi]

but yeah I'll go for Scissors thing is that it tells you the Truth... but the truth won't help you anyways

[faint pivot]

Since you turn your target into cookies

[cloud wadi]

because you don't know the rules to her game

[cosmic gorge]

Shes being honest in a roundabout way?

[fickle crown]

I think it might be an allusion to Faust being born through some unusual means

[cloud wadi]

no it's directly honest

it's just that she's playing chess while you assume she's playing checkers

[faint pivot]

Born through violence...sounds an awful lot like a Singularity

[cloud wadi]

basically

[fickle crown]

Imo it's more like being open about your actions but coming across as shifty regardless

Outis does have genuinely good advice at times but y'know

The face lmao

[cloud wadi]

you lose if you put a rock to her scissors

because in her rules rock loses to scissors

[stoic fjord]

GREGOR 12TH DISCIPLE THEORY CONFIRMED!!!! /j

[fickle crown]

Also this was funny to me lol

Because I immediately thought (on my first encounter with her) "Playing rock sounds like a really bad idea" and went with paper

[cloud wadi]

same

[cosmic gorge]

Wasnt the strat to let her win

Bc she throws a hissy fit if she loses

[cloud wadi]

no she accepts it pretty well if she loses

[stoic fjord]

no, she slices off your arms if you lose

and is fine if she loses and hands you a doll she made

[cloud wadi]

it's just that the rules are reverse of what you'd expect

[cosmic gorge]

Also, bc the abnormality speaks in a funky southern accent

Imagine Southern Outis NOW

[cloud wadi]

if you put rock againt scissors

you lose

[stoic fjord]

another thing of note is that her reasoning for the interactions seems rather illogical

[cloud wadi]

scissors is an interesting case

[stoic fjord]

with paper winning against scissors because "scissors are only useful when there's cloth around" iirc

I forget whether it's draw or tie where she slices off your arms

[faint pivot]

Yep, and on loss

Tie, she just pouts and dips

Or rather, makes you dip from her space

[cloud wadi]

Where "not trusting her" leads to a good outcome

despite her telling you the truth

[stoic fjord]

what's the reasoning for rock losing to scissors again

[faint pivot]

Not given

[stoic fjord]

ah, alr

[faint pivot]

See the choices aren't juxtaposed between trusting her or not

[cosmic gorge]

Steel beats Rock

Cmon poggers you play Pokemon right

[faint pivot]

They're whether you want to take advantage of her honesty or let her (a kid, who usually don't know better) win

[cloud wadi]

yeah

[faint pivot]

You're punished for the former cause you didn't dig deeper

[cloud wadi]

I think that was my thought process initially

"I should humor this kid"

"What's the worst that can happen, she kills one of us?"

[faint pivot]

I've gotta imagine some of these events in my head more

"To chop your arm off" some IDs heal

[stoic fjord]

yeah, same

[faint pivot]

A bunch of IDs intercept the girl and get hurt meanwhile the Magical Girls and Middle pillers get time to lick their wounds

[stoic fjord]

wait deadass?

fr?

[stoic fjord]

neato

[faint pivot]

What happens if you field a 100% Envy team

[stoic fjord]

also something I think is super funny

is that in the Hatred and Despair pack

if you say "we could fail. like we always do." it is genuinely Outis glazing that salvages the situation

"clearly you do not understand the Executive Manager's incredibly nuanced and high brow comedy"

it is the funniest shit

[faint pivot]

Incredible save Outie

Made that shit overflow to positive

Did Dante resonate with the value disposal btw cause I think that's the first instance of them being pessimistic

[fickle crown]

Maybe a bit

Also Dante has had multiple moments of despair throughout their journey

Some more comedic than others, but people like Ricardo and Lei Heng have genuinely left them feeling hopeless

[cloud wadi]

Dante despaired when Vergil was swapped with Charon

[fickle crown]

That's not canon tho

There was also Canto 1

Which was just

Disastrous on multiple levels

[faint pivot]

It is thanks to the Mirror Dungeon

The sinners get to feel what they felt

[faint pivot]

Also true, I guess they just haven't been voicing that kind of stuff

[stoic fjord]

crazy how PMoon managed to make Ricardo feel like comedic relief and the end of the fucking road just moments apart

[stoic fjord]

also end of Canto 3 where Dante just genuinely does not know what they can do to try and help SInclair

and while not hopeless, they also felt lost with Ishmael in Canto 5

[cloud wadi]

Moment that man literally walked down the red carpet

And started muttering about the world being binary between lusciousness and bristly

[stoic fjord]

and in Canto 6 right before durante

and in Canto 7 before the assist-

y'know

[cloud wadi]

I knew he was going to be the surprise comic relief character lmfao

[stoic fjord]

I'm realizing Dante actually falls to despair quite a bit before bouncing back

[fickle crown]

Yeah

It makes sense that they'd say the second line at some point

[stoic fjord]

I honestly think they're less optimistic and moreso just persistent

they'll keep pushing even in a hopeless situation, not because they know or think there's a way out, but just because it's what they feel they have to do

and honestly that might be even more inspiring, at least to me, than optimism in a cruel world

just the ability to keep pushing onward because it's better than sitting down and giving up

[cloud wadi]

That person has absurd pain tolerance

Canonically suffering from constant death like pain every time they fight

[cosmic gorge]

Calling it

There will be a scene where Dant gets captured and is subjected to liveleak levels of horrible torture

[cloud wadi]

And just continuing on as if it’s okay

[cosmic gorge]

But when rescued, shrugs and says tally ho, sinners, lets kick their asses

[stoic fjord]

all 5 fingers team up to torture one guy

[cosmic gorge]

The "tally ho" is integral to this

[stoic fjord]

unfortunately said guy is Dante and they experience the flames of hell like twice a day minimum

[cosmic gorge]

Dante must undermine their aura with a goofy phrase each time

[stoic fjord]

true

if they ever aura farm too hard "fiddlesticks" has to come within the same minute

[cosmic gorge]

"gosh, Amiya, you really saved our bacon there"

[stoic fjord]

Dante can have their like. properly cool moment in their own Canto

[cloud wadi]

Dante canto truther

[stoic fjord]

they're a sinner

they'll get a canto

[cloud wadi]

That implies they have done something wrong

Impossible

As they are a perfect commander

[cosmic gorge]

Kjh is an AK fan we'll find out that pre amnesia dant has done some evil shit in the past
Imagine if pre amnesia dant looks and acts like an nb makima

Got the chains

[stoic fjord]

I imagine pre-amnesia Dante's sin(s) are like.

1. individually worse than all of the sinners combined
2. incredibly numerous

[cloud wadi]

What if they are the founder of the city

[stoic fjord]

like, whatever Outis and Faust have done I think are liable to look fairly tame in comparison when we reach it

[stoic fjord]

Original sin......

[cosmic gorge]

The Clock that Fell to Earth

[cloud wadi]

What if they are the first bloodfiend

[stoic fjord]

there's so many possibilities

KJH please we can't last forever

[cosmic gorge]

Dant has like, Luciferian and Messianic vibes to them

[split beacon]

Tbh

I have a suspicion that Dante won’t have an origin or a previous identity

[stoic fjord]

that would also be a possibility

[split beacon]

And that it’s all smoke and mirrors to make the Sinners obey at first

[stoic fjord]

Dante is the homonculus that Faust created

[ebon forge]

Imagine that Dante is like, motherfucking vermillion cross or some shit lol

[cosmic gorge]

Oh does that make Faust our canonically momm- ATELIER BULLET SOUND

[cloud wadi]

I think dante has a definite past

[stoic fjord]

actual left field shit

[split beacon]

The things that complicate this idle theory are that Dante (Former) has lines to suggest they have a serious ego on em and an agenda

[cloud wadi]

Yeah

They sound pretty uhh

Entitled

For lack of better word

[split beacon]

Leaving that dangling would be strange

Buuut

So would establishing Dante (former) any further

[cloud wadi]

Also that theory would mean purple tear is working together with Vergil

[cosmic gorge]

KJH being an AK fan means that Dant i feel with have dokutah parallelisms with having a different character pre and post amnesia

KJH you fucking whale

[cloud wadi]

Which is possible but not exactly plausible afaik

[cosmic gorge]

You goddamn whale

[cloud wadi]

Like it could happen

But probably not

[cosmic gorge]

Ill never forget that fucking operator screen

[cloud wadi]

Limbus is a KJH plot to generate income to whale in AK

[split beacon]

Another thing I think is possible, albeit kinda out there

Is that Dante (former) is essentially a non-factor in that whoever they were before was more or less a random victim chosen to become Dante for Limbus Company’s purposes

[cloud wadi]

Plausible

[split beacon]

And that LC just killed this random Citygoer who was convenient so they could create their messiah

[stoic fjord]

they

[split beacon]

Whoops

[stoic fjord]

hrmmm

on a scale of blank slate protag to Kris Deltarune

how important do we think They Dante is in terms of the narrative

...Danthey?

[cloud wadi]

Less than kris probably

[stoic fjord]

Dant-they

[stoic fjord]

yeah that's why they're the other end of the extreme

[split beacon]

Oh also

[cloud wadi]

Simply because Korean is naturally a gender neutral language

For the most part

[split beacon]

N Corp seems to be collecting lots of sinner analogues

But they have no Antidante

[cloud wadi]

They have herr man

[split beacon]

Antigreg tbh

[stoic fjord]

ahhhh, ok

if Yuri does come back as an N Corp member/Literatuer, who will she be opposite of

[cloud wadi]

Faust

[cosmic gorge]

Herrman and her schrodinger's arms

[stoic fjord]

true

[cosmic gorge]

Gerg

[stoic fjord]

they're scissoring

[cosmic gorge]

Art sorce

[ebon forge]

Uhm one sec

rewlzeu

[stoic fjord]

I wonder what scissor outis will actually do

[fluid whale]

Based on context clues it'll probably be power down and curse

Cause it's from the little girl with Voodoo Doll as her ego gift

[stoic fjord]

Yeah makes sense

I wonder if it'll compete with her base E.G.O

Most other alt Zayins are in consideration, right?

[fluid whale]

They range from decent tradeoff from baseline to complete upgrade on the original

[bronze zephyr]

Sinclair fr

[stoic fjord]

Wait Sinclair has an alt Zayin?

[fluid whale]

In the former category: Holiday Heath, Bygone Days Yi Sang
In the latter: Frog Sinclair, debatably Legerdemain Gregor

[stoic fjord]

Ohhhh yeah frogclair

[bronze zephyr]

Ooh I don’t have leger Greg

[stoic fjord]

What about death maggot ish

[fluid whale]

It's from Season 1

[fluid whale]

Very good for the teams that want it, but not as good as snagharpoon in the general case

[stoic fjord]

Noted, noted

[gentle mulch]

snagharpoon + tidel elegy is just like

Fuck you

[bronze zephyr]

+2 clash power passive on snag is insane

[gentle mulch]

Fuck you if youre a boss

Just absolutely stop playing if youre a single target boss

[split beacon]

The only problem with that loadout is that it’s stacking Gloom on Gloom

[cosmic gorge]

Shit ive been nerfing myself by stacking centipede with my skadishmael

Fuck me

Gdi

[bronze zephyr]

Centipede has attack weight tho right?

[neat cedar]

ye

[cosmic gorge]

So does skadishmael

[neat cedar]

Snag js good when ti's good

and bad when ir's bad

i personally am.not a fan

[bronze zephyr]

I like centipede

[neat cedar]

mhmm

personally i don't lije ego passives that stand.to screw me over if i'm in a bad spot

[gentle mulch]

collect my gloom EGOs

[faint pivot]

Meanwhile Don with the triple Envy

[stoic fjord]

Tbh I kinda want to see what an ID purely of each sin would be like

Like... all 3 skills wrath, with a wrath defense

What would that mirror world's sinner look like

All gloom, all pride, all envy, etc.

[bronze zephyr]

Almost QoH Don

[stoic fjord]

Wrath S1...

Also almost Middle Sinclair

[faint pivot]

Almost Harpooner Heathcliff

[fickle crown]

If it isn't power down it's probably gonna have a unique slash resist down effect

[lean fjord]

if nothing else, it's an AoE Zayin

[gentle mulch]

outis

get in the onesie

[keen palm]

https://www.tumblr.com/wundooms/803973254170755072/iiiits-christmaaaaassss?source=share

Meow

IIIITS CHRISTMAAAAASSSS

-# #limbus company #lcb #don Quixote #rodya #rodion #don quixote limbus company #don quixote lcb #rodya limbus company #rodya lcb #no I'm not late it's not past Christmas until I go to bed #I was listening to Christmas songs while drawing this #doom arts

Tumblr · Dec 26, 2025, 5:57 AM

[ebon forge]

https://www.rxddit.com/r/limbuscompany/comments/1pxkfey/sancho_and_don_doodle_by_me/

[ebon forge]

two more days!

two more days!

also

i fucking love whoever these people are

i fucking love 1 sinner people

like, for me, my teams are always gonna be a full status team (rupture, usually)

[cosmic gorge]

The Rodion team is just several hot russian women and then the strugglers at the very end

[ebon forge]

ill set my ids to AllFaust eventually

or AllSang

also jesus fuck lord hong

you didnt need to not let anyone else activate their skills for a whole boss node (pequod villagers)

[lean fjord]

He do be like that sometimes

[faint pivot]

Ishmael Capote obtained

Maybe I should be grabbing a Teth for Ryo but I'm tempted to diverge towards Rime Shank if next season means we get Tremor-Sinking as a double team

[ebon forge]

im currently doing floor 13

i plan to do floor 14 tomorrow and then 15 on season 9

[faint pivot]

Don't MD sessions expire every turn of the day

[ebon forge]

no, only on server reset

[faint pivot]

Ah neat

[ebon forge]

what int he fuck

my lord hong just rollijng a.... 39 speed

[tiny cave]

Fast boi

[tiny cave]

Do keep in mind rime shank needs TS4

So its a bit more expensive egoshards wise

[faint pivot]

Aha, true

[ebon forge]

got every fucking non-fusion only t4

and almost every t3

[tiny cave]

Average floor 15 run

Every ego gift in the game

[ebon forge]

ight 15 cleared

now to wait...

i think imma clear s5

might be able to grab these three so s4 only has the pass left

unlikely but gripper faust might be on the table

ill be dropping into the new season with a minimum of 2 IDs or EGO

[ebon forge]

so...

4 EGO
30 extraction tickets
150 universal shards
170k exp
2 uptie modules
440 boxes

[atomic steeple]

Same

[atomic steeple]

It's so over
We're so back

[atomic steeple]

Dumped Vergilius

[ebon forge]

good lord i think i sharded 30 IDs / EGO this season

[atomic steeple]

I had a dream where ricardo had a room with two weird lizards and one was invisible

It was some college auditorium

[atomic steeple]

Holy crap the floor is completely covered in blood

[atomic steeple]

Got contempt awe ego!

I just need thread

[faint pivot]

Ignoring all the tickets needed to get there, I think I'll be fielding 3 teams for canto 9

1. Trembleed w/ the N Duo and ManaDon that's purely focused on conditionals and damage
2. Envy-charge with REAPshu for when things get tougher
3. Hong Lord with Daishu as a last resort (I doubt I'm fielding this team tbh but just incase)

Aligns nicely as pierce, blunt and slash teams, funnily enough

[unique bane]

https://old.rxddit.com/r/limbuscompany/comments/1pxq89c/a_comic_about_evaluating_baby_ryoshus_art_by/?ref=share&ref_source=link

https://old.rxddit.com/r/limbuscompany/comments/1pxh0xj/udjat_outis_nishikujic/?ref=share&ref_source=link

[faint pivot]

Love the character break at the end

[stoic fjord]

Okay so I had a dream and I don't remember anything except for a single sentence of it

"With regards to Dante's second passing and subsequent return..."

Is KJH sending me messages throufh the collective unconsciousness

What the fuck is happening in my brain

[stoic fjord]

Actually moreso a fragment of a sentence

[stoic fjord]

I NEED TO KNOW THE CONTEXT OF THIS IN MY DREAM BUT I FORGOT

[uneven canopy]

3 days...

[cloud wadi]

You know

If we are seemingly returning to LCE facility

Judging by the reappearance of the ebony stem

What are the odds of Kim breaching containment too

[worthy haven]

Well at this point he might be demonolithed enough

[cloud wadi]

Well a human kim might want to breach containment too :p

[worthy haven]

Fair fair

[cloud wadi]

Very very humanoid behavior to want to avoid containment

[worthy haven]

He might help us during the assault in exchange for maybe getting released

[atomic steeple]

Maybe we get an upgrade of bl meur

Repentant mentor

[gentle mulch]

DISTORTED KIM EGO WHEN

[stoic fjord]

Kim wasn't even fucking mentioned in the trailer or hinted at and we're going all in on Abno Kim or LCA Kim or just. Kim in general

incredible what the theorizing mind can do when left to stew

[gentle mulch]

THE NIGHT(S)

BEFORE THE CANTO DROP

[stoic fjord]

these walpurgis nights

[bronze zephyr]

When did we get the s6 roadmap again?

[fluid whale]

After all three chapters drops I'm pretty sure, it was a ways in

It was prior to Lord Hong dropping, I know that

Can't remember if it was before or after TKT bokgak

[stoic fjord]

say hi to my new stupidest fucking creation of all time

I saw the middle E.G.O gifts from nocturnal sweeping and the voices took over

I don't have middle don so the other envy res don it is

I guess it's a functional charge team as well but like

anyways I hate to say it but I think I'm benching Ryoshu for Midsault

I can't wait to have thread again so I can do more of this stupid bullshit

I wish the middle IDs were unique charge

maybe the new middle IDs we get will be unique charge

why would they do such a thing?

1. make charge officially envy res
2. because it could be a cool name and icon

3. double status double status double status double-

if my motivations ever appear unclear

just know

it's double or triple status

wanting a weirdly specific status combo? triple status
agenda posting? triple status
bank fraud? believe it or not, triple status
murder? triple status.
the collapse of US hegemony? you might not believe it, but triple status.
divine ascension to godhood? triple status.
[ ]? triple status.

[dusty sigil]

I don’t want them to be charge because I think that’d be lame

[stoic fjord]

okay yeah you have a point

they can stay bleed/envy res

[dusty sigil]

The only thing they need to fuel their skills is the knowledge that they’re rightfully punishing the guilty

Charge is for corporations, not families

[stoic fjord]

I think I'm also trying to streamline teambuilding too much

it should not be free to slot envy res and charge together

[golden meadow]

he ||released all his wrath on his grandma when he forced her to take a bath||

[stoic fjord]

you must make some level of sacrifice for the family

[stoic fjord]

no because he says like.... ||he wishes them eternal peace in Naraka, which while the deepest pits of Buddhist hell, is also still temporary and serves and penance and reformation||

so I honestly now think that he genuinely meant that and wishes the best

I guess the eternal part might mess with that but like

I assume it's not exactly like that

I think said wrath is repressed way deeper

like, shit we'll see after inferno

[golden meadow]

well i still think the ||literal waterfall he dropped on his gam gam is representitive of him releasing his repressed emotions onto her ever since he begun holding them in on the day of the massacre||

[stoic fjord]

oh yeah absolutely but that's not wrtah

*wrath

that's closer to... I think Envy?

[golden meadow]

in the same way ||his EGO is him wringing out his blindfold that was drenched in his tears||

[golden meadow]

probably gloom

[stoic fjord]

I think gloom is moreso holding onto it

the release I think might be moreso envy?

idk

maybe a mix of both

[dusty sigil]

Actually, are there any charge IDs or factions not in some way tied to a corporation? Like even in Ruina cane office was T Corp sponsored

[stoic fjord]

gloom definitely does fit I might just be interpreting shit wrong

[stoic fjord]

uuhhhhhh

Multicrack is an independent office?

ig?

[golden meadow]

meh you might be right, as gloom is descending into your depression n shit

[dusty sigil]

They were introduced to us by being hired by K Corp though…

[stoic fjord]

also obsession in general

true...

also charge is a very independent status with little support

whereas bleed is all about Lust. and that fits the middle even if they don't have lust skills

actually

why doesn't the middle have any lust

I know they embody envy, and the ring embodies lust, but I think lust fits decently into the middle as well to an extent

they all have bleed anyways

do we think there's anything besides bleed that the middle could get

[atomic steeple]

I think you are seeing things in a too defined way
Too delinea5ed

[gentle mulch]

hong lu probably still has repressed wrath because that was one of the main emotions he talked about in his awakening and Inferno is for now people getting the Start of the personal journey

[stoic fjord]

yeah that's fair

[atomic steeple]

I think envy got pigeonholed by the fandom

[stoic fjord]

I think I'm trying to categorize too hard

and need to think more abstract

[atomic steeple]

Think of envy less as just retribution

Reminder, firefist is wrath

And he's rather vengeful

[stoic fjord]

I mean it's less "Envy is retribution"

and moreso Envy is measured, festering want for vengeance in what we see

wrath can also be retribution, but more immediate, more lashing out, like Firefist

[atomic steeple]

Plus hong lu was channeling a lot of emotions in that scene

[stoic fjord]

bro was feeling like, everything but sloth I think

[golden meadow]

i like that ||Ricardo's "MY HAIR COUPONS!!!!!" is a wrath skill, as he's completely going past envy and deep diving into wrath||

[atomic steeple]

I mean
He's still calculating
He comes, destroys, gathers info
Then leaves

Envy is a complicated emotion in limbus

[golden meadow]

because he had only been feeling sloth up to that point

[stoic fjord]

sloth and gloom I think

[stoic fjord]

true

[stoic fjord]

yeah, also true

I need to re-think the sins more in depth I think

I think the only one I have a decent grasp on is pride

[atomic steeple]

I'd say envy is like being stepped on
It's that sick feeling you get inside, a bit distonct from the burning of wrath

Ricardo, after the indigo elder wrecks him

Says "all of you who turned your backs on the middle"

The middle is driven by this feeling of rejection and weakness eating them up inside

[stoic fjord]

Ricardo's obsession with his hair has gotta be deeper than comedic relief

[atomic steeple]

That's why they react so badly to those who leave

[stoic fjord]

like

[atomic steeple]

The Middle never forgets

[stoic fjord]

with how he was comedic relief into "oh fuck this is genuinely the end of the line"

I think the hair thing is more than just a funny bit and this guy has serious unresolved issues

I think you brought this up actually

like, the middle reinforcing the insecurities of its members to keep them in the middle

fuck I just want more middle IDs I want to run full envy res in MD or something

if W Corp can have enough for a full team then everyone deserves it /hj

...someone talk me out of making status teams with only one faction before it's too late

the heishou aren't enough

I want full liu burn

full...

what else?

Cinq Poise, maybe?

Zwei tremor

W Corp charge, as mentioned

uhhhh

I think I've realized the flaws in my theoretical ID designs

I try to make them too optimal

when I should be trying to be making them work, but not so well that they're perfect for the role

like, for instance, trying to make wrath res

wrath is associated with burn, sure, but neither Cobalt or Crimson Scar have reason to have burn, and I don't need to aim for dual status or status in general really

I can just fuckin do whatever

so long as it's reasonable and interesting

[fickle crown]

Imo the scars would be bleed wrath

Possibly with a special charge type

[stoic fjord]

yeah, that's what we went with

iirc I made Crimson Scar Bloise and Cobalt Blupture

but like

....triple status, surely

[fickle crown]

Imo Cobalt Scar should be bleed with low HP conditionals

[stoic fjord]

this was what we went for, mostly, I think?

but also KoDya type stuff of tank pos SP mode and damage neg SP mode on top of that

[fickle crown]

Cobalt Scar should also get coin power down infliction

[stoic fjord]

Crimson Scar, I think red and I did like... poise mode with ammo, bleed conditionals, vaguely Pequodmael-like while also Cinq?

basically marked target they do better against and lose SP if they don't kill it

[stoic fjord]

wow UT3 middlesault's numbers are fucking ass

Ayin.

[keen palm]

what

[stoic fjord]

I don't fucking know maybe the wiki editors are as insane as we are

[atomic steeple]

Is contempt awe overclock good to use?

[gentle mulch]

people like to say that contempt awe is Only good for its overclock

[stoic fjord]

this is what it does, which

[gentle mulch]

they're wrong but yes it's good

[stoic fjord]

lotsa damage, good bleed support, looks like

[gentle mulch]

i personally like resource generation so i pop it for the passive

[stoic fjord]

her base one has a lot less bleed and doesn't have as much damage ramp immediately

and yeah this is its passive it's p good

[keen palm]

Sucks I never got to pull CA

[atomic steeple]

Awakening gains attack weight

[cloud wadi]

Contempt awe is also one of the most damaging awakening egos

Or used to be

Now there’s some serious competition

[atomic steeple]

I like the bleed count on overclock
Though the sanity cost is steep

[cloud wadi]

It’s only real downside is yes

[atomic steeple]

I don't have much sanity support on bleed

[cloud wadi]

The massive sanity cost

[keen palm]

I am hoping to finally uptie 4 as many egos as I can with the next canto drop

[cloud wadi]

My conspiracy theory

Is that they are having us return to lce

So that they can introduce new characters

[atomic steeple]

What can I do for sanity?

[cloud wadi]

That they can create ids for in the bokgak

Also

What are the odds that the facility R Corp attacked in Rodion’s uptie event is limbus company facility

And that’s why they had surprisingly murderous defense

[atomic steeple]

Oh makes sense

[stoic fjord]

AND THAT'S HOW WE GET FULL R CORP TEAM IN SEASON 7!!!! /silly

[atomic steeple]

Oh, n faust is optimal, though I have been avoiding the fanatics

[stoic fjord]

yeah NFaust does SP support on the bench for bleed

[lean fjord]

Her support passive is useful

And I think Faust doesn't have much for Bleed otherwise

I guess Shi

[keen palm]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXATe51HWd8

[stoic fjord]

Laplace's Angel is like, sloth prime I think

like this is evil yi sang

[keen palm]

Now that I'm taking Magnesium I think I could maybe finish up the Limbus RPG

[stoic fjord]

oh also I think someone made a roland animatic to this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2beSZ9gGacg

it's peak

LoR spoilers

heavy ones

[cloud wadi]

https://youtube.com/shorts/ikjD62KduFI?si=9-1U3cFOuLACY_Qh

[dusty sigil]

Chat, enough betting on if Ryoshu’s kid is still alive

Lets get a new bet:

Will the LCE trio bite it?

[stoic fjord]

I think I'll go for the bet of "Hohenheim is the only survivor"

[ebon forge]

Two more dayysssssssssss

Why the fuck is my limbus merch taking SEVEN days

WHYYYYYY

[atomic steeple]

Transfem hong lu
https://archiveofourown.org/works/46920556

[main scaffold]

“Wow, HRT sure is amazing”
“Why the fuck do you look exactly the same”

Pandora(She/her)(aka WaxMask) ↩️

[Reply to:](#1208554035326484531 message) Transfem hong lu
https://archiveofourown.org/works/46920556 📎

[stoic fjord]

peak fiction

using the faustcord to clock Hong Lu

[dusty sigil]

Man, I’m really annoyed I’ve got no boxes in time for the new canto

I don’t wanna spend lunacy…

[ebon forge]

I have 150 modules

[stoic fjord]

at this point I'm over "save for walp" if it's every two months

I'll just pull on banners I really want and shard each walp 2 months late

[dusty sigil]

Speaking of btw, does that mean Walp will be the first event of the new season?

[stoic fjord]

whooooo fuckin knows lmao

[dusty sigil]

Lol

[stoic fjord]

fuck

I just want one hidden boss

gimme ricardo

[lean fjord]

we don't know yet

[stoic fjord]

the one time I run middle again

no fucking ricky

[dusty sigil]

Excited for Meur’s first Walp ID

[stoic fjord]

no tricky ricky with his blowjob brothers

[gentle mulch]

oh yeah

[stoic fjord]

a hidden boss

not the right one

[gentle mulch]

ill just roll on walp and get the shards i need

[dusty sigil]

God forbid a man wants his coupons back

[stoic fjord]

no it's that I want him to come claim his coupons

[dusty sigil]

Oh

Oh wait shit who’s Ricky?

[stoic fjord]

ricardo

[dusty sigil]

Oh

I see now

Sorry

Man, I know it’s because season 1 ID

But

Ting Tang Hong Lu’s rolls are very funny lol

Base 13 skill 1, base 18 skill 2 and base 30 skill 3 are super good lol

[fickle crown]

TT Hong Lu is a surprisingly evergreen ID

Also his evade lmao

You forgot how insane it is

It's just an uncapped version of Maidshu's evade

[dusty sigil]

Yah

The only problem is that terrible base roll

But you know

[fickle crown]

He's gambling lmao

[dusty sigil]

Luck is a part of skill

Just don’t roll tails lol

[fickle crown]

Also lol

Lmao

Suddenly out nowhere

18 rolling evade

[stoic fjord]

that skill 3 genuinely feels like hitting the fucking slots

it's also actually onrush which I find hilarious

[dusty sigil]

I’m not sure what skills that doesn’t beat

[dusty sigil]

It’s so funny

[stoic fjord]

it would be even better if it could infinitely chain like onrush

unfortunately we must wait for the red mist ID to experience that

[dusty sigil]

True…

Red mist ID will totally have onrush skill 3, that becomes great split vertical enhanced skill 3

[fickle crown]

Tingtang Hong Lu is actually just several tiers above Lord Lu which is fucking hilarious to me

[gentle mulch]

one of my main motivations for limbus company grinding is just how bad the paid boosts are for value2money

[dusty sigil]

Wait what how?

Lord Hong is one of the best IDs in the game

[gentle mulch]

it's like the game actively does not want you to spend money on it and who am i to disagree most of the time

[stoic fjord]

ok lowk middleclair is fucking goated in MD

[fickle crown]

TT's main advantages are he's dirt cheap to have in a team with almost no conditionals, doesn't even require an entire team built around him, and is just a decent roller and has an insane evade

[stoic fjord]

for some reason this guy just pops off

[dusty sigil]

I mean yah if you just throw him in something TT is probably better but idk if that’s several tiers above the lynchpin of the current strongest team

[fickle crown]

Like seriously TT's main advantages are that he's just a good standalone unit without the infinite greed of needing one limbillion thread for the entire Heishou pack + Lord Lu

[stoic fjord]

ohhhhh

so like

practicality

not in a vacuum

[dusty sigil]

Oh yah

I see what you mean

[stoic fjord]

like, yeah, UT4 Hong Lord with a full team is stronger than any TT Hong Lu team comp

but also like

I got that by genuinely no-lifing the game and still am not done

[fickle crown]

That and also I don't respect the majority of what the Heishou do at all

Cockliff is based though because he's actually fun to play

[stoic fjord]

genuinely all we needed was a Maost nerf and we might've actually gotten peak Heishou

it's like talisclair all over again

the fault lies with Maost for our zero fucking deathrites ever

[lean fjord]

they should have just given them all Deathrite anyway

it's not like it would have really changed anything for Maost

she can counter with S3-2 every turn anyway once she gets it once

[stoic fjord]

I like the heishou because they are cool but they could also be so much fucking cooler

[fickle crown]

Also my goat TT Hong somehow winning against T H E S P H E R E

[stoic fjord]

gangsta shit

[gentle mulch]

i think like

unfocused volley is fun

but the heishous as a whole ehhh

purely mechanical-wise im not interested in most of them

[stoic fjord]

I like using them but I like all of my other teams so far more which does not bode well

because like. half my fucking burn units are UT3 and sinking is missing a 7th

[gentle mulch]

like. si, maost, and you branch are the only ones i really care about

[fickle crown]

Cockliff and Wu Sang are great

The rest I'm just like

Eh

[gentle mulch]

i havent played wu sang actually

[fickle crown]

He's hilarious lmao

[stoic fjord]

I like Wu Sang

fun tank

good combo with Xishmael

refuses to die

[gentle mulch]

what his general flow

[fickle crown]

Wu Sang's gimmick is "I don't give a shit go my concussion"

[gentle mulch]

i do like idgafers in my comp

[stoic fjord]

doesn't die and concusses enemies forever

[lean fjord]

his main benefit is he gets a bunch of refreshing shield

[stoic fjord]

he looks at the enemy, decides his stagger bars aren't relevant, and then just keeps beating their skulls in until they have tinnitus

[lean fjord]

so he can very easily tank stuff for you

[stoic fjord]

it's great

[fickle crown]

So the other benefit he has is his insane bench passive

Bro just straight up gives you 50 HP if there's enough of a speed difference and you're below half

[stoic fjord]

oh yeah it's fucking crazy

he goes on every single weird team I try that isn't FB

HOW AM I GETTING EVER SINGLE SECRET BOSS BUT RICKY

I'm getting fucking mad

[gentle mulch]

sighhh

[stoic fjord]

I'm getting mad

[gentle mulch]

i wish there were more battles like night in the backstreets where it's just a fucking flood

human encounters but good

[stoic fjord]

real

[fickle crown]

Actually a really funny build comp you can do is run Wu Sang with Lord Lu and Jia Ish alongside W Outis, Heath, Don, and another random Heishou of your choice

Comp where you're not allowed to die

W Outis is actually hilarious in drawn out fights

[stoic fjord]

(it should be cockcliff because he's the best heishou in terms of design ong)

wait

no

[fickle crown]

Okay but Wcliff is based

[stoic fjord]

W Heath

I'm a brick

[gentle mulch]

i also wish we had 10+ turn fights more

[stoic fjord]

I'm stupid

[gentle mulch]

i sorta miss how painful ruina was with long fights

it came to a point where i'd just set out a few hours a day for one fight in ruina and if i lost i tried again tomorrow

[stoic fjord]

this simultaneously sounds miserable and awesome

[gentle mulch]

yeah

i miss it

also one thing i wish they fixed was heishou retreat on unopposed counter

since the skill says it does it at combat start but

doesnt

[stoic fjord]

2 middle goons and 2 magical girls show a Capo of the thumb who the real best finger is

nvm middle clair just fucking died

[ebon forge]

two more days

[fickle crown]

Then you're hit with that trash disposal full heads roll and Lord Lu permanently dies

[ebon forge]

two more fucking daysssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss

[gentle mulch]

lol said the tree. lmao

[fickle crown]

Also ngl I find it hilarious how G-Greg is just health hauler but watered down

[stoic fjord]

alright that was fucked I think I'm going to take a break from stupid MDE teams that aren't prepared for this shit

I think I'm getting tired of limbus

maybe I should detox