Project Moon Games: Lobcorp, Ruina, Etc.

[ebon forge]

yeah, it's supposed to be a TETH but got upgraded due to being OP

[atomic steeple]

Dumpy

[ebon forge]

Udjat Outis theory

[bronze zephyr]

||Voodoo Doll ego for outis||

[atomic steeple]

The purple kid in md
Her event gives you voodoo doll

[atomic steeple]

HOnestly, didn't put much stock on that theory

Expect Outis to have been someone powerful in a Wing

[worthy haven]

Eh. She still could have been || and this is an ID where she never left them||

[atomic steeple]

There isn't much evidence pointing her to the udjat

[bronze zephyr]

That feels like bad end material

[worthy haven]

I am not the guest fan of that theory anymore but I don't think this excludes it entirely black on white

[atomic steeple]

Or disconnecting her from them

[worthy haven]

The main piece is just the moses reaction right?

[atomic steeple]

The theory is impossible to discuss because there isn't much evidence for or against

[ebon forge]

yeah but this is mostly in the sense of our only "never left" ID being... g gregor i believe?

[bronze zephyr]

mana don

[neat cedar]

I would feel that ||this ID kinda kills the theory||

[atomic steeple]

Yeah
And that doesn't serve as good evidence since both were involved int he same war with outis as a major player and moses part of a group that would be privy to information such as major player

[neat cedar]

||sinners don't usually get ids of related to their pasts beforentheir canto||

[atomic steeple]

I imagine moses could just know her from intelligence regarding major players

[ebon forge]

yeah that too

[atomic steeple]

One cannot use fuzzy evidence to say things with certainty
Something fandom often misses

[neat cedar]

||It alsonwouldn't make sense for Outis's inspiration if she was annudjat||

[atomic steeple]

Yeah Outis was a king

[neat cedar]

||Udjat are explicitly followers ans a hired army||

[atomic steeple]

Not some elite servant

[neat cedar]

mhmm

[atomic steeple]

Her ego references this

[ebon forge]

wait.

[atomic steeple]

The moment odysseus was dragged to war

[ebon forge]

bad end Outis...

[atomic steeple]

In spite of trying to escape

[ebon forge]

silly, insane idea

Dias Outis

[atomic steeple]

Anyway, the big thing this trailer

||Is that a Limbus base gets attacked by the index||

[ebon forge]

I cant describe my thoughts about how much i love this Sang

[neat cedar]

||It seems like.||

||Limbus xouldn'tbgetbaway with theirnfuckerynscott free forever||

[bronze zephyr]

I need ||udjat outis||

I wonder if people have sused out their statuses in the past 20 minutes

[atomic steeple]

You know, I had a dream last night
It involved my neighborhood, vergilius
I remember little, only that I had to stop a kid from walking out at nearly 3 am, explaining that even if the sweepers don't come here, wandering at night is dangerous

[bronze zephyr]

Oh right small thing i noticed near the end of the trailer: ||ebony queen refight||

[atomic steeple]

Yup
They are becoming big players
So they are attracting attention
Of course ||the Index would have intelligence on them and raid a base||

[atomic steeple]

Yeah, ||guess abnos breach in the attack
Remix of lob corp warnings for this canto?||

[neat cedar]

||Index getting a prescript to take out LC the same way theyngot a prescript to attack the thumb||

||always starting shit||

[bronze zephyr]

Spoilered cuz its in the trailer and also bc it looks fucked: WTF IS THIS.

||ring project?||

||also, potential waywrd passenger refight||

[neat cedar]

||https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1371669950187569272/1454065933399232512/image0.jpg?ex=694fbbed&is=694e6a6d&hm=589be0ae3303d773efef1cdd0eeb18864f3e94e509e852e04dfd52ff4f83fc8c& ||

||Oh. . . oh that's a labcoat||

||Oh those poor LC employees||

[worthy haven]

||fair to say I think a solid half of the spider house theories are also dead||

[bronze zephyr]

||been a while since we’ve been to an actual lobcorp branch again hasnt it?||

[neat cedar]

||That's not lob corp||

||That's Limbus||

[worthy haven]

We have been in canto 7

[neat cedar]

||Those are LCE looking backgrounds||

||They attacking us||

[bronze zephyr]

Mmm right ok,

[bronze zephyr]

||if hohenheim comes back i swear to god||

[ebon forge]

dias vs limbus war???

[worthy haven]

?

[neat cedar]

||No, Dias basically confirmed to be the head of Limbus||

||It's the index whose prob attacking us||

[ebon forge]

oh lmao

yeah makes sense now

but that's fuckin wildin ngl

[atomic steeple]

How so?

[ebon forge]

of course its fucking ||dias||

[worthy haven]

We basically soft knew that for a while

[atomic steeple]

Moses return perhaps

[worthy haven]

And ||Outis ID literally has LCA in their name||

[worthy haven]

A lot of theories around it being a restaurant/ the one from leisaults story, but it Def seems way way deeper then just like a meeting ground

Maybe it's all that at the same time

[ebon forge]

ngl i havent really touched ruina much so i couldnt tell

[atomic steeple]

Yeah
THe theories are mainly "meeting ground" and "supplier of equipment/trainees"

[ebon forge]

feels... doomsday clocky

[atomic steeple]

Seems it might outright be a supporting/in-between organization for the fingers

[neat cedar]

so i'm 100% calling

that Ring Father is our first fight

butnalso

need to check tonsee if Odjat is block heavy or not

as that was the udjat gimmick

[worthy haven]

Also potentially ||unsheathed ryo sword but it's hard to tell if it's like a "replica" or construct of the ego or her real one||

[atomic steeple]

Also secret announcer is gonna be cousin Itt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpVo4bYCnLs

[worthy haven]

Super curious about those new(?) guns

[neat cedar]

||Kintsugi?||

[neat cedar]

new, yeah

udjat never rocked guns before

no block or counter

so i wonder what the fuck the gimmick is

or will it just be raw Boolet

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1371669950187569272/1454068444671639644/image0.jpg?ex=694fbe44&is=694e6cc4&hm=9aadae84906114920b525c622f197958ff7ad241f365028068282d10a74470d5&

[worthy haven]

Also good new pic

[neat cedar]

Putting outis ina onesie. . .

PM.what have you done

[neat cedar]

but also

Ryoshu

[neat cedar]

*why is this your seasonal ego"

Why are younsharinf this with one of the big mirror world.discoverers

How deeply involved are you

[bronze zephyr]

Molar Outis and T Outis and Butler Outis about to tremble before the might of ||udjat outis||

Hanafuda Ish synergy is welcome

[ebon forge]

yeah

hana ish, udjat outis, kod rodya...

we'll have some monsterous teams soon

[bronze zephyr]

||New predictions for finger IDs this season, though w Udjat outis its sort of unlikely every sinner gets a finger this season? We’ll see||

Im so sinkingpilled

[ebon forge]

also im so happy

long hair yi sang is so hawtttttttttttttttttttttt

[atomic steeple]

Babygirl outis

[ebon forge]

also i wonder what ryoshu's bad end status gonna be now

[bronze zephyr]

Yesss

If its not burn i crash out

[atomic steeple]

Outis getting yuzuki id even though she's older than ryoshu

[worthy haven]

Most sinners get two ids

So it's entirely possible still no?

[bronze zephyr]

True

[worthy haven]

But we have so many options for ids

[bronze zephyr]

. Is BE Ryoshu gonna have a lord lu esque thing where she wants to partner w fingers? Maybe?

MORE UDJAT IDs

[worthy haven]

Fingers, various ego suits and LC employes

[neat cedar]

who knows

like

thebpremise for this canto

is already

sucha curve ball

also

my theory

[atomic steeple]

We are getting big lore this canto
We might learn what is up with the hell dante connects to, and the time and mirror world tech the cock has

[worthy haven]

||there is also a distinct possibility that the assault on LC is also only the first section and is concluded in act 1||

[neat cedar]

||Index are working, indirectly, for the mysteriois bluenfucker group||

[bronze zephyr]

Insane

[neat cedar]

||Because the pattern holds||

[worthy haven]

That's a good shout

[neat cedar]

||Last canto was n corp||

[ebon forge]

blue flower

[neat cedar]

||This canto has to be Blue fuckers||

[bronze zephyr]

Its always ||blue fuckers ||ruining our day

[neat cedar]

||Demian has basically been warning us since day one||

[quick quartz]

||what tha hell is a polar bear doin in arlington texas||

[worthy haven]

Wait......is...this....real real??

[neat cedar]

||It's a solid theory||

||i'd need ro double check if it's ryoshubsaying that||

[ebon forge]

wait lemme think

heishous have...

poise, rupture, tremor, sinking...

burn

no charge

and do they have bleed?

nope

i hope dragons are bleed

[cosmic gorge]

Huuh

This confirms that ||the limbus after action masked weirdos are uadjat no. The ones who pick up the monoliths?||

[neat cedar]

||Seems like||

[ebon forge]

so...

will like, part III of limbus be some insane shit like taking down the head???

if we get there

[neat cedar]

prob we're not even outnof part 1 for like

what another year

[ebon forge]

technically, up to 4 years for that

[neat cedar]

we still got 3 cantos tongo

[ebon forge]

assuming dante gets one somehow

[neat cedar]

big assumption

not untenable

but still

[bronze zephyr]

In a year its likely we’ll be thru meur’s canto and Maybe outis’s

[atomic steeple]

You know
I think we didn't see all to the ryoshu ego
It is either an ego that favors its corroded form, or it has a second awakening animation like glory gregor or tarnished hong lu

[ebon forge]

defo

[atomic steeple]

tiger bleed

[ebon forge]

mmm

[cosmic gorge]

2B Faust....

[ebon forge]

also i have like

120 modules saved

im gonna burn them all in a single day for the bp lol

[bronze zephyr]

I have like
No modules lmaoo
Tho i havent spent my lunacy to refresh for a while until today

[ebon forge]

lmao

[bronze zephyr]

3 weeks until its even maxable so im taking my time

Omg wait ||kqe heathcliff will be my first heathcliff ego||

[ebon forge]

lmao

like

this season since i doubt an AK pt. ii type event is gonna happen

im gonna be working via lunacy resets and getting to bp like, 3000 or some shit

[neat cedar]

funny realization

LCA outis

is the LC leader id

ornhas a food chance to be

because all the LC ideas use bullets

ans have a random assortment of status debufds

[bronze zephyr]

True, tho until im back at 200 pulls for walp im staying stingy w my lunacy (im at ~170 pulls rn)

[hybrid lynx]

what the fuck do you mean the goddamn udjat are here now

[bronze zephyr]

YEAH

[ebon forge]

dias company:

[bronze zephyr]

Oh that would be kinda peak

[neat cedar]

Limbus fucked arounx

[hybrid lynx]

yes i know

[neat cedar]

And now the Index has come to make us Find out

[hybrid lynx]

but i thought we'd have one more season until we were in their ballpark

[neat cedar]

yeah

so did.I

[neat cedar]

but shit's hittingnthe fan

[ebon forge]

we're poking at SoTC...

[cosmic gorge]

Limbus just meddled in the politics of a Wing

I think we're due for a Finding Out

[neat cedar]

yeeeah

[ebon forge]

yeah

[hybrid lynx]

ALREADY?!

[ebon forge]

yeah, been so since canto 8

poking, mind

[hybrid lynx]

hooooooooooo boy, we're about to get fucking wild

[neat cedar]

we really are

i am not ready

[ebon forge]

like, lei heng is solidly, undeniably SoTC

[hybrid lynx]

i think 9 will get us firmly in there

[cosmic gorge]

I kinda realize how self contained canto 6 was compared to the others scope wise

[neat cedar]

also, callingnl it here

[ebon forge]

obviously, we needed to nerf him and and he still nuked us

[neat cedar]

Index father

[cosmic gorge]

It was all within a few hours in a mansion

[hybrid lynx]

cause we'll be dealing with THE big names of the fingers

[neat cedar]

is gonna be part of the demian club

[neat cedar]

ye

it was just Heath having a very bad awful day

[ebon forge]

but W Heathcliff is like, 1 level under the SoTC peeps of W corp iirc?

[neat cedar]

which is different to greg's awful bad day

[cosmic gorge]

Canto 7 has the pre meeting with the merc fixers

[hybrid lynx]

wait

[cosmic gorge]

So it doesnt have that vibe of a Platonic Singular Narrative Location

[hybrid lynx]

wait what level was dad quixote before the debuffs shot his level down

[ebon forge]

we also get hit with Wing War Sounds

[ebon forge]

90 i think?

[atomic steeple]

Index and the house of spiders decided to cut us down to size

[hybrid lynx]

and we're at 70, right

[ebon forge]

90 might be the limit to levels

55 rn

60 soon

[hybrid lynx]

ok

so we're getting there. concerning.

[ebon forge]

ricardo is lv 60

[neat cedar]

just u wair

UT 5

just around the corner

[ebon forge]

ut5 is for EGO only tho

[hybrid lynx]

OH HE'S DOOMED

[neat cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/pewdiepie-9year-old-army-t-gay-congratulations-for-legal-reasons-thats-a-joke-gif-13924557

[neat cedar]

if we get ever get any

[atomic steeple]

Module system like in arknights
Equipment for ids

[ebon forge]

we're getting big brother heathcliff probably

[neat cedar]

believe

believe InnEgoist ricardo

i wanna see many entet

The World of the Luscious

[ebon forge]

EFFLORECED EGO: LUSCIOUS HAIR COUPONS

[hybrid lynx]

see, it'd be sick if he DID effloresce, but i think it'd be cool if we saw a distortion instead

[neat cedar]

if Ricardo gains ego

fighting against the Middle Father

because no one gets tomkill us butbhim

i'd be so hype

[hybrid lynx]

we've seen an index based distortion, but a middle one would be so cool

[ebon forge]

LMAO REAL

[neat cedar]

https://youtu.be/miM5wf7N4Mk?si=uKJxCpqfZcxMWuUd

[ebon forge]

middle papa probably wouldnt bother stopping ricardo, imo

ryoshu straight up is strong enough to beat him i believe

[hybrid lynx]

imagine if during the final confrontation we ever have with him it gets remixed into having lyrics

[ebon forge]

esp w/ her sword

[worthy haven]

I am curious if the assault will only be act 1. I think it's likely?

[neat cedar]

probably act 1 at most

half of act 2

[worthy haven]

And outis is stronger 😌

[neat cedar]

depends on whatnthe fuck the spider house like is

[atomic steeple]

Also hopefully distorted boris from the thumb

[bronze zephyr]

Wonder if caiman will show up again soon

[neat cedar]

woll say

Limbusnreally settingnoutnto earn those content warnings this season

because what in thenfuck are those enemies

[hybrid lynx]

and here i thought W-Pass, the B-Fiends, and the H-Elders would be the most fucked for a hot second. hooooooooo boy

[atomic steeple]

You all don't understand art /s

[cosmic gorge]

Anyone got any zoomed inmages of those things

[ebon forge]

can i just say how much i wanna kiss yi sang

hes too pretty

fuckkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk

[hybrid lynx]

Y.W.F.B.W.B.

[neat cedar]

@cosmic gorge

it's

[cosmic gorge]

Damn

Uhh

[neat cedar]

yeah

shit's fucked

[cosmic gorge]

Did they pop out of

[neat cedar]

Ring Father act 1

calling it

[cosmic gorge]

One of the humanoid enemies

[neat cedar]

no clue

if we get spawn on death enemies

i'mma scream

[atomic steeple]

Ryoshu's version of the ego could also be simpler than yi sang's due to her preference for minimalism

[ebon forge]

https://tenor.com/view/yi-sang-limbus-company-yi-sang-limbus-company-limbus-yi-sang-limbus-gif-2064952593446236690

[ebon forge]

holy misg

[neat cedar]

Yi sang really do got that shit on

[faint pivot]

Y'ALL REALLY NAILED IT

This trailer fucking ROCKS

[faint pivot]

Where?

[worthy haven]

||the udjat are LCA and we know they only listen/are hired to/by one person. Prior we got soft confirmation via Moses being within LC and the fact that limbus has an extreme amount of resources ||

[eternal berry]

||LCA ID focuses on LCA Vanguard Team members, and they pretty much look like Dias’ personal enforcers, the Udjat, down to having the actual Udjat symbol and golden detailing on their uniforms||

||Meshes with other hints as noted above, but the LCA ID reveal all but says it||

[faint pivot]

With the above I think it plain says it

||Her ID title is "LCA Udjat" after all||

[faint pivot]

Didn't know they ||were exclusive||, TIL

[eternal berry]

They’re technically a Fixer Office

A Fixer Office that only ever gets contracted by one person

That’s all a Fixer Office needs to do to count as one: take requests. You’re allowed to be exclusive

[faint pivot]

W-Pass?

[hybrid lynx]

wayward passenger

[faint pivot]

Fixating on this detail cause ||doesn't Ruina explicitly state that prescripts are written on cloth?||

||Does this mean that different Index branches have different medium for their prescripts? Is there one that passes them digitally?||

||Whatever the case is, Faust is at the very least an outlier|| Ruina lore spoilers, Star of the City level

[eternal berry]

Nah, LoR page stories say they’re all written on paper. ||Moirai’s|| just speaking metaphorically about the creation process there

[faint pivot]

Is the ||facility not called a loom?||

||Those look like threads to me||

Oh wow, spoiler in image title

Uhhh I hope it's only revealed when you click on it

Hrm

[faint pivot]

They do, don't they

[cosmic gorge]

If the mark of cain was partially based on Supernatural there is

A nonzero chance that the Prescripts are based on Wanted

The 2008 action movie

With the curved bullets

[faint pivot]

Maybe these are original copies? And the ones they're talking about are transcribed...?

[cosmic gorge]

Which is an In-Name Only adaptation of an edgy fucking comic book

[faint pivot]

||The weaving is seemingly involved in the "birth" of a prescript too, perhaps weavers do something extra with them that we don't get to see in Ruina?||

[eternal berry]

Oh, I see the source of the confusion. The bolt of cloth on which the seismograph writes is not the Prescripts directly

||The weavers operate the spinning wheels, which decode the nonsense language of the seismograph into readable text on paper, which are the Prescripts that are actually sent to Index members. They’re not cutting off bolts of cloth and sending those||

[faint pivot]

Aha

Nailed it on the head, thank you

I must say that "writing" twice mistifies me since it's (seemingly) using ink twice but it seems necessary here so I'll take that as the right interpretation

[eternal berry]

That’s just how non-digital seismometers work, they record vibrations on a roll of film/paper

[faint pivot]

Aren't the ones we have IRL writing out the actual record, writing only once?

[gentle mulch]

UDJAT OUTIS???

ohhhh my gos

it's everywhere

INDEX FAUTTSTG

AGHHHHGG

AHHHHHHH

[atomic steeple]

Index has the drip

[gentle mulch]

oUh mynyt god

It's all over the place

It's suchg a good trailer

holyly shit

ohhh my yod

ohhhhhgg

[atomic steeple]

So seems the first ids of this season are sinking tremor and sinking

[cosmic gorge]

Uadjat is trenking?

[gentle mulch]

i don't care about walpurgis anymore

I want

Udjat Outis

I want her

[atomic steeple]

Yeah

Funny, thought index would be tremor sinking

[tiny cave]

ho boy more tremking support

soon we'll have a full 7 tremking sinners

will we finally get deep blue tremor

[faint pivot]

...isn't this the first time we come across Wayward Passenger in story mode?

Technically RR and MD are canon too but like you get what I mean

[tiny cave]

the extra crackpot theory
loland's deck is singleton, therefore loland was already an index member

[stoic fjord]

Rodion doesn't

[cosmic gorge]

She bashes people in with a shield

Say

The Count of Monte Cristo is as according to Limbus' specific definition of its sins, Envy coded

Because of the deliberate and meticulous nature of revenge that was enacted

[tiny cave]

she's got two big cannons

[stoic fjord]

LCA Outis actually has me so fucking excited tho

I heart ammo IDs

Please. Please god Sinking/Tremor/Poise

Nearly every other gun ID has poise it would be so fucking funny

Okay so it looks like with index

The prescript thing comes into play with certain skills and enemies being marked?

[gentle mulch]

RYOSHU UNSHEATHES HER ACTUAL SWORD SWORD WITH THE NEW EGO

IT'S HAPPENING

[unique bane]

i don't get it

[tiny cave]

are they WAWs

or have we finally gotten our first ALEPH

[gentle mulch]

waw

we have zayin teth waw waw for the lineup

[stoic fjord]

Both WAWs

[gentle mulch]

and we're fighting ebony queen again..

[stoic fjord]

I'm assuming that if we get an ALEPH this season, it comes near the end

[gentle mulch]

there's hope for rupture count infinity 2

[true bluff]

waw is the sound I make when no aleph

[stoic fjord]

The mirror guy getting the thing where he shatters infinite reflections of other possibilities does not bode well

Canto 8 bouta be a fun lighthearted adventure compared to Canto 9 we're so fucking cooked

KJH heard "how will PMoon top this" one too many times and became wrathful bruh

[gentle mulch]

"how will PMoon top this" KJH hires employees in an unprecedented move for the company

[dusty sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/heathcliff-true-ego-canto-6-gif-17460527974588736040

[dusty sigil]

TRUUUUUUUUUUUUE

[gentle mulch]

kjh is going to have a boss fight thats says only the highest damage instance in a turn will be used to reduce hp just so shi faust can have crumbs

[stoic fjord]

lmao

[split beacon]

Opening onto a disaster situation makes me feel like we really are headed for the dark canto people have been baying for

[gentle mulch]

and it's still going to be tragic and heartwarming and somehow bittersweet

fuckin

a commenter saying ryoshu is the baby-voice version of yoshihide

slamming my hands on the desk

[split beacon]

I mean… kinda true

[gentle mulch]

we've had before teams fuck up before in cantos 3 and 5 which--

ah yeah actually those moments were pretty bad

but having to call in the udjat for this is uh

new?

new.

i guess we've had hope for too long considering spring cultivation. it's time for horrible things to happen again

[fickle crown]

Okay so

I can definitely tell Udjat Outis is Tremor (sound effect plays on S3)

Faust is weird though but I like the gimmick it's going for

Udjat Outis is definitely like

Gonna have bind in her kit

[lean fjord]

She's Tremor Sinking apparently

[fickle crown]

Ah ok

[lean fjord]

The Sinking effect is visible a few times

[fickle crown]

Also hey I guess I did call out the sin affinities for index

Anyways Hanafudamael and Peggor are probably gonna join the tremor bros

[stoic fjord]

if Udjat Outis is Poise/Tremor/Sinking I can die happy

every gun user I can add to the poise team completes my soul a little more

[fickle crown]

Lmao it's like she's charge or something because she'll be the return of quick suppression

[stoic fjord]

way

*cait

*wait

charge tremor sinking

[fickle crown]

Seriously though I think she's a funky charge archetype

The mask thing seals the deal if it's not something that shows up after S3

Plus I think she and the other Udjat are gonna become rabbit team stand-ins going forward

[stoic fjord]

XYZ - Udjat Outis
XY - KoDya
XY - MaDonka
XZ - Rosespanner Gregor
YZ - Fudamael
YZ - Sunshower
Z - any tremor

IT'S REAL

Canto 8 spoilers ig

[keen palm]

I will say I think Dailushu is better than Maoshu

She is consistently getting an absurd amount of dps on my MD runs and easily let me win rate to floor 15

[stray sleet]

I haven't had a chance to use her, I've been hoarding exp tickets for the start of next season

[stoic fjord]

I think for normal gameplay she's probably not as strong, but in MD specifically Daiyushu is incredible strong

[fickle crown]

Diayushu imo is actually alright for normal gameplay but she really shines in a focused fight (like many other tanks) where you really don't want to clash certain skills

[gentle mulch]

dridershu is great

"uuuuu she doesnt play the status as good as mao" boohoo

go my bajillion resource generation

rupture stack is for people who cant do damage

https://tenor.com/view/firefist-gregor-goku-limbus-company-project-moon-gregor-gif-1703373798349960949

[keen palm]

Oh

Watching the trailer

[gentle mulch]

yeah

[keen palm]

Guess that confirms Dias

[gentle mulch]

yeah

yeah it does

[fickle crown]

Also this feeds into something else lmao

Thoracalgia fuelling

She basically generates a gloom resource no matter what

[gentle mulch]

exactly

[fickle crown]

Also idk why her assist attack triggering Clashable Counters is a bad thing

Like

That's not bad

In fact that means you waste it

[gentle mulch]

shes a tank

thats supposed to happen??

"awuuu h no i cant clash win against clashable defenses"

[fickle crown]

Bruh the gacha brainrot is just

[gentle mulch]

youre. clearing them??????

[fickle crown]

Killing them

With hammers

These mfs cannot for the life of them do actual team building

[gentle mulch]

"indicant trial is so useless it doesnt synergize with dark flame" DONT CARE.

HRA HGRAH RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH

https://tenor.com/view/firefist-gregory-limbus-company-gif-13343088875106849816

[fickle crown]

Indicant's Trial is pretty good though lmao

[gentle mulch]

IT IS

[fickle crown]

Like it's hard to fuel but pop it in the middle of a fight and then it basically pays for itself

[gentle mulch]

every time a new id or ego releases people bitch all the time it's not fucking fluid sac 2

or magic bullet 2

[dusty sigil]

I mean it just makes everything rupture count negative if the boss has clashable counters is the thing

[gentle mulch]

though we did

genuinely get a second magic bullet

uh

or mao 2

[fickle crown]

Bruh Magic Bullet is such a finicky EGO though lmao

[fickle crown]

I'm gonna be real with you

[gentle mulch]

but that meta tho /DISDAIN

[fickle crown]

Mao basically killed rupture again

[stoic fjord]

wahhhhh wahhhhhhh wahhhh rupture isn't fucking real all we need is conditionals

[gentle mulch]

deadass i would be so excited for more ids that are like "we are ONLY count generators if you have more than 10 potency i SPEND it"

[stoic fjord]

but also yeah I'm ngl the mao kinda centralized rupture a little too much I think

[gentle mulch]

Status as coin power conditionals instead of like

99 damage generators

i would prefer that

[fickle crown]

That reminds me of the horrendous fan ID I made for the Seven Association

[gentle mulch]

make it. AGAIN

[stoic fjord]

tbh rupture as chip damage + conditionals is pretty neat

[fickle crown]

Shitload of count + next turn paralyze and clash power down with actual power down on S3

As a 00

[stoic fjord]

like, overall I don't find it to be a super interesting status on its own, so using it mainly for conditionals honestly doesn't sound too bad?

[gentle mulch]

the evil and intimidating distorted blade

[gentle mulch]

"this status does damage" Great!

so does

most

statuses

[lean fjord]

you can't get conditionals if your stack dies either

[fickle crown]

Woe, wall of text be upon ye

[gentle mulch]

like rupture is fun, i just dont want to micromanage a rupture stack because maost decided to eat all of the count

[fickle crown]

00 Seven Assoc. North Section 3 OC ID lmao

210 HP, 4-7 speed, DL 53

Stagger Thresholds: 60%/40%/20%

Slash Fatal, Pierce Ineff., Blunt Normal 

S1 - Flash Warning (Sloth)
Pierce
2 normal coins
Offense Level 56
5+3
Coin Power +1 for every 7 Rupture on target (max 2)
[On Use] If target has 15+ Rupture and 3+ Rupture Count: This skill does not consume Rupture Count On Hit, but does not inflict Rupture with this skill's On Hit effects.
I Spend 1 Photo Film
[On Hit] No HP damage is dealt
[On Hit] Inflict Paralyze next turn equal to this Coin's Power/2 (Max 3)
II [On Hit] Inflict 2 Rupture
[Heads Hit] Inflict +2 Rupture Count

S2 - Restrain (Wrath)
Slash
1 normal coin 
Offense Level 57
7+7
In a clash, opponent has -2 Clash Power
[On Use] Gain Clash Power equal to Rupture/3 (Max 5)
[On Use] If target has 15+ Rupture and 3+ Rupture Count: This skill does not consume Rupture Count On Hit, but does not inflict Rupture with this skill's On Hit effects.
[Clash Win] Inflict +2 Rupture Count
I [On Hit] Inflict 5 Rupture 
[On Hit] Inflict 2 Power Down next turn

S3 - Intelligence Relay (Gluttony)
Pierce
4 normal coins 
Offense Level 57
7+3
[On Use] If target has 15+ Rupture and 3+ Rupture Count: This skill does not consume Rupture Count On Hit, but does not inflict Rupture with this skill's On Hit effects; instead, gain Gain Coin Power +1
[Clash Win] Inflict 2 Clash Power down next turn
[Clash Win] Inflict 3 Rupture
I Spend 1 Photo Film
[On Hit] Inflict 2 Offense Level Down next turn
II Spend 1 Photo Film
[On Hit] Inflict 1 Plus Coin Drop next turn
III [On Hit] Inflict 3 Paralyze next turn
[On Hit] Inflict +2 Rupture Count
IV [On Hit] Inflict 2 Power Down next turn
[On Hit] Inflict 3 Rupture

Defense (Evade) - Analysis (Envy)
N/A
4+10
1 regular coin
Defense Level 53
[On Use] Gain +1 Clash Power Up next turn (2 times per turn)

Other: This identity starts the Encounter with 7 Photo Film

Photo Film
- Unique Ammo
- 50% chance to not consume this Ammo with skills

Combat Passives
Flashing Lens
x5 Wrath Owned 
In a clash, the target has -1 Clash Power for every 3 types of negative status effects it has (Max -2 Clash Power)

Support Passive
Prepped and Ready
x6 Wrath Owned
The unit with the least or no Ammo gains 3 Ammo at the start of the next turn (twice per encounter)

[gentle mulch]

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

ohoh ammo id

[fickle crown]

Also yes

I let him reload your bullets

[gentle mulch]

plus coin drop holy shit

paralyze on skill 1

[fickle crown]

He does however have the 15/3 curse

[gentle mulch]

FIFTY PERCENT CHANCE NOT TO CONSUME AMAOFSHIGS

[fickle crown]

I might drop that lmao

But on the other hand it's fucking hilarious

[gentle mulch]

deadass i would welcome 15/3 with open arms if it meant i didnt have to care about trying to maintain rupture stacks with half my sinners using defense skills

[fickle crown]

With a 4 coin S3 I thought it'd make sense for this ID

[worthy haven]

Ye drisershu good for but I think for story I will swap back to maoshu

[gentle mulch]

yummy yheathcluf

this is my fuckass story team im testing out

and no the team order is slightly more jank than you'd think

[keen palm]

I'm wondering if I do bleed or heishou

[fickle crown]

Anyways, I dunno if this is too strong for a 00 but I did want more support focus with this

[gentle mulch]

bleed is just like

a monster in sustainability

[keen palm]

Yeah

[gentle mulch]

those EX Objective: Clear Missions can get one tried with the sheer amount of healing

[worthy haven]

I am prob gonna go with sinking for story

[gentle mulch]

(it probably is but KJH needs to add more 00s anyways so it can slide)

[keen palm]

The only downside is Ryoshu doesnt have that cool a bleed id

[fickle crown]

Also tbh

The main downside of this ID is incredibly low actual damage

[worthy haven]

Oh fuck true no sinking shu ATM xd

[gentle mulch]

Ryoshu has two cool bleed IDs! theyre just

yk...

not.

[fickle crown]

S1 and S2 don't actually do a lot lmao

[worthy haven]

Red eye is noice

[gentle mulch]

dedicaated.

to bleed.

[fickle crown]

Especially with the S1 basically being a single coin skill

[worthy haven]

And works in bleed

[gentle mulch]

theyre jumping you on the reddit meta discussions

[fickle crown]

Well fuck them go my plus coin drop

[worthy haven]

although these days I think of my fiend team more of a lust Res team than bleed

Who needs status when you got that SINergy

[gentle mulch]

TRUE

[worthy haven]

HMMMM

That would be really funny

[lean fjord]

I'll be real, I don't think we're getting 00s anymore

it's gonna be all 000 from here

[gentle mulch]

no yeah i am convinced 00s are just

a thing of the past

[gentle mulch]

managing the LCE like it's a cheap horror game

[worthy haven]

I could also see fucked things with monoliths being set "free" or something like that

[gentle mulch]

dias could just drop a few of them in like

a highly populated building

and then

pianist 2

[keen palm]

They have explicitly said this yes

[gentle mulch]

well they should take it back

[fickle crown]

Man...

[lean fjord]

well they just said they were gonna do less of them originally

but either way it seems fairly clear yeah

[stoic fjord]

yeah but it literally just needs to be there and generally it manages itself well enough to be up for most of the conditionals

[stoic fjord]

Bamboo-Hatted KIm E.G.O suit would go crazy

[dusty sigil]

If I’m being honest I’m not really mourning the loss of 00 IDs

I get that they’re supposed to be a cheaper alternative to 000 but the amount of 00 that were genuine alternatives to their 000 equivalents could be counted on like 2 hands

The rest were just immediately dead in the water

[stoic fjord]

I do think that they could've done something with them, but I also just think with the design space it wasn't likely, and going forward we're probably just going to see more 000s with like, very strong support rather than a cast of 00s for support

[fickle crown]

I am gonna miss the era of like

Funny 00 kits

[stoic fjord]

true

[fickle crown]

I think they only really started to nail the 00 formula down in season 6 which is deeply unfortunate

Because like

[karmic escarp]

awake
eyeroll of the century when i saw that blindfold on index faust we get it you need more gooner noney so youre reheating 2b's nachos /hj
also gee hong lu why does pm let you have two BP WAW EGO?

[fickle crown]

The 00s from season 6 were actually fun???

[fickle crown]

Tbf

Hong Lu's BP EGO ATM is like

The lowtiergod meme

[dusty sigil]

I mean for every LCE Yi Sang you had fang hunt Hong Lu

Who was

Deeply boring

[fickle crown]

Yeah but also there was Zwei Sinclair

Who is an unironically good ID for his time

[dusty sigil]

Fair yah

[fickle crown]

I sincerely believe that S6 IDs were hitting that peak with the 00 stuff

Plus KK giving their own 00s utility was nice too

What with Ishmael having a pretty good team leader ability

[lean fjord]

if you mean the BP EGO, that's not Hong Lu

it's Yi Sang with long hair

[fickle crown]

Oh lol

[stoic fjord]

yeah, no, Hong Lu didn't get anything here

it was yi sang

[fickle crown]

Makes sense actually

[dusty sigil]

His gluttony has been satiated for now

[stoic fjord]

also I would like to re-iterate

I

do not thing this bodes well

at all.

[lean fjord]

I very much also thought it was Hong Lu at first glance though 😛

[stoic fjord]

like.

[dusty sigil]

Same

[stoic fjord]

gamers this is the mirror guy

[dusty sigil]

Long vs short hair is my main way of telling them apart tbh

[stoic fjord]

and he's got. the ego. where the animation is reflections of infinite possibilities shattering apart.

[fickle crown]

Also Yi Sang's EGO brings to mind those assassin sisters from Kubo and the Two Strings

[stoic fjord]

I think with what's been going on

I think with Canto 8, us somewhat shifting the status quo

this is when real shit starts

to borrow someone else's words, Canto 9 is the finding out for our fucking around

[gentle mulch]

it makes sense

we should also be taking a shift in Dante's Inferno, too

[dusty sigil]

What is canto 9 in inferno?

[lean fjord]

I'm mostly still just looking at the animations for Udjat Outis

they're so good

[dusty sigil]

They are

[stoic fjord]

mhm

so fucking peak

wait hold on

[dusty sigil]

I also wonder if it’s intentional that these vanguard Udjat fight like rabbits?

With rifles and oversized knives?

[lean fjord]

the khopesh is their usual weaponry

the rifles are new, but possible that they have been supposed to have them already and Ruina just didn't show it

[dusty sigil]

Yah but pairing them with rifles is new

[stoic fjord]

LCCB Ryo
LCCB Ishmael
FS Hong Lu
FS Heathcliff
Solemn Lament Yi Sang
Udjat Outis
Twinhook Gregor

...hrm.

how long until full ammo poise team... please......

[stoic fjord]

||also the LCA being Udjat is fucking crazy||

[dusty sigil]

I don’t think it was intended, I think these are just a new class of Udjat

[stoic fjord]

we deadass just funded by Dias huh

[dusty sigil]

They’re called vanguard Udjat after all

[karmic escarp]

my bad for watching that shit on my phone then. ill amend as follows: gee yi sang how come pm let you have two BP WAW EGO?

[stoic fjord]

Sunshower was originally an HE

[dusty sigil]

I fucking knew it

[fickle crown]

I think they're like Limbus' own version of the rabbit team if that makes sense

[stoic fjord]

and only changed in rarity due to being OP

[stoic fjord]

I agree

[fickle crown]

They have similar theming with the usage of guns and blades not to mention them being smaller squads

[dusty sigil]

Yah, that’s what I was bringing up

[stoic fjord]

our theories... finally confirmed.....

[unique bane]

judging from the dialogue i think it's more about shattering the present and future

[dusty sigil]

They’re equipped very similarly to the rabbits

[lean fjord]

also on rewatching, it seems like she might only deal Sinking in the mask on state

[stoic fjord]

I mean yeah but there's very clear visual parallels

[karmic escarp]

it's not a HE anymore is it though

[lean fjord]

which I assume is passive being active or something

[fickle crown]

I think she's a weird charge ID

[stoic fjord]

I mean yeah but the intention wasn't another WAW

[fickle crown]

The mask on feels like a charge thing

[stoic fjord]

mhm

[unique bane]

true
we'll get a better idea of what it's about when we can see the corrosion

[stoic fjord]

like, we only see that with charge IDs so far, right?

[karmic escarp]

but they changed it so it is

[stoic fjord]

with R Corp?

fair enough

Oh wait also with firefist, sort of

but like

for his S3 only

5 more days until... I can shard firefist...

[fickle crown]

There's also Bloodfiends but bloodfeast is like a semi-charge effect anyways

[lean fjord]

there's also some kind of mark on the enemy

[stoic fjord]

yuh

[dusty sigil]

Also, I wonder if this’ll be a reloading ammo ID because Dias supplies her agents very well

[lean fjord]

the blue swirling around their feet

[fickle crown]

Maybe reload and refund ammo on kill with S3?

Which I think would make sense

[stoic fjord]

praying. for LC ID synergy. team leader type shit

Outis was born for this

make LCCB Ryoshu viable and my life is yours

they're tremor, they're ammo, they could be poise too... surely...

[dusty sigil]

I could see it but doesn’t the after team hate the before team?

[stoic fjord]

LCA is not the after team

LCCA is the after team

[dusty sigil]

Oh?

What’s the LCA then?

[stoic fjord]

LCA we know fucking nothing about beyond them saying some cryptic shit to dante

[stoic fjord]

we don't know, iirc

[dusty sigil]

Oh

[gentle mulch]

when we step into sins that are committed knowingly and willingly iirc

[stoic fjord]

yeah LCCA is after, LCCB is before

LCA we know fuckall about

LCB is us

LCE is research

LCD is moses and ezra

[dusty sigil]

Oh… oh no

[stoic fjord]

Limbus Company Clearance Before and Limbus Company Clearance After

also I thought the LCCA mostly hated us, not the LCCB?

yeah looking through it I think the two LCC branches have nothing against each other explicitly stated

the LCCA just hates us

[dusty sigil]

Oh

Nvm then

[lean fjord]

Caiman is After team yeah

hence why they complain about having to clean up behind the Sinners

[dusty sigil]

I thought the LCA agents were with Caimen with how they showed up in the same intervallo and then did what the after team does

Clean up our messes

[stoic fjord]

nah, the LCA is weird

like, yeah, they do seem to have a similar-ish role sometimes

but also they were specifically sent for the monolith

and additionally mentioned as being slated to genuinely fucking murk the whale through sheer firepower if we failed

and like

[dusty sigil]

Huh, well hopefully this ID gives us a bit more on them

[stoic fjord]

the LCCA is not doing allat

[stoic fjord]

Dias censors Carmen's voice so we can't find out anything about her precious Udjat beyond a few small glimpses ong

[dusty sigil]

Asshole

Blocking us from more lore

[stoic fjord]

okay so

I've been like

[uneven canopy]

dias is the light-bending man from disco elysium

[stoic fjord]

genuinely tweaking out with theories

like, I actually sound like I'm going insane

Limbus Company induces psychosis

[uneven canopy]

so rich she bends the fabric of the universe to her whim

[stoic fjord]

but if anyone wants to hear them, I have them on hand to start rambling

[worthy haven]

I think our only previous show (I think?) of LCA was here (spoiler for leviathan I suppose)

[lean fjord]

sure looks like them

[stoic fjord]

red glowing dot instead of yellow though

which is odd

[lean fjord]

man, Verg looks so tired there

[stoic fjord]

bro don't even look annoyed he just looks like he wants to go home

felt

[dusty sigil]

He has every reason to be tbh

[stoic fjord]

"man this shit is fucking exhausting I just want to go home with my daughter bruh"

[worthy haven]

The Dante knows state I think that there seem to be multiple parts of LCA

[fickle crown]

I think it's a combat augmentic

It's possible the red is just like

[stoic fjord]

oh yeah fair

[fickle crown]

Combat mode

[dusty sigil]

It does seem like from everything we know, LCA is the nuclear option for limbus

[worthy haven]

.GG wiki entry on what we know about LCA

[lean fjord]

it's seemingly the most important department of Limbus, and the one making all the big decisions too

[dusty sigil]

They’re sent in if LCCB ever catastrophically fails or when handling things of extreme importance

Or whenever limbus needs to make sure that a show of force is clear

[worthy haven]

Like blowing up the whale lol

[fickle crown]

LCA might be "Limbus Company: Assault"

People you send into hostile territory

[dusty sigil]

Yah maybe

[lean fjord]

admittedly, they only say they would blow a hole into the whale to retrieve the clock

[worthy haven]

Tru

But ye makes sense that they do recovery and fighting of distortions, monoliths while also securing

[dusty sigil]

The fact they can blow up the pallid whale puts the firepower they’re operating at being… unfathomably high

[fickle crown]

Alternatively it's "Limbus Company: Annihilation"

[worthy haven]

Plus whatever things are in the shadows

[dusty sigil]

We know battleships exists because N Corp has some but still

[fickle crown]

And given the fact Udjat Outis is basically a rabbit in different clothes

[worthy haven]

Like I could see some LCA squads working with the potential w corp replacement

[fickle crown]

It makes sense that they're supposed to kill and expunge everything if something goes wrong

[stoic fjord]

though they did also make the uptie/levelup materials

or at least are implied to

[dusty sigil]

The squad Outis is apart of seems different then the agents we ran into before too

[fickle crown]

Interesting

[stoic fjord]

at the same time, said materials do cause harm to said mirror worlds

so

[dusty sigil]

So there’s multiple types of teams in the LCA too

[stoic fjord]

honestly the A being annihilation fits

[stoic fjord]

notably very different, yeah

what if only some of the LCA is udjats?

[worthy haven]

Seems incredibly likely

[lean fjord]

that kind of hat is apparently associated with basically the grim reaper in Korean culture btw

[stoic fjord]

anyways I'm gonna start yapping about my theories rq so please forgive me for the wall of text

[worthy haven]

Based on the units we saw in leviathan

I will say

[dusty sigil]

With how unnervingly loyal they are I think they all are just, specialized in different things

[worthy haven]

I fuck really hard with the new udjat vanguard look

[fickle crown]

Okay that's starting to make some sense then

[dusty sigil]

Same, they look like the anvil compared to the Normal Udjat’s clean proper clothes

[worthy haven]

Scary bastards being scarier

[atomic steeple]

Index faust seems to have a sort of shield

[dusty sigil]

Also adds another group to the city’s list of “people wearing actual metal armor”

[fickle crown]

Not metal, looks more like tactical gear

[dusty sigil]

The shoulder pads look metal to me

[fickle crown]

It's probably some sort of ballistic fiber with polyethylene

[dusty sigil]

Knowing the city and Dias’s wallet, also almost certainly made of people

[fickle crown]

It could also be ceramic

[dusty sigil]

True yah

[atomic steeple]

White, either due to index or the color of poise

[fickle crown]

I'm convinced it's some sort of plastic though

[atomic steeple]

She seems to have a complicated way of working

[stoic fjord]

major spoilers, probably only open this if you've completed the game

||so, based on what we've seen so far, with the mirror worlds, with Lord of Hongyuan Hong Lu being aware of his existence in a mirror world, with the interconnectedness of the gesselschaft and his awareness of it and of alternate versions of people, and the consideration of the Erlking being a mirror world made able to cross through to other worlds, not just view them, iirc, I think there is a legitimate chance that some version of the Lord of Hongyuan appears for Purgatorio as a major plot point. he's shown interest in E.G.O and psychoments and light, and the mirror seems to be related to it in some way. At the very least, Carmen is narrating uptie stories, so I think there's a connection there. I think that despite N Corp having a state goal of destroying all mirror worlds, I think Hong Lord might end up being some form of ally to them, both in terms of power but also something to do with the mirror world destruction itself? unsure, but with his focus on purging evil, I think it's a distinct possibility that we see him realized outside of his own world.||

||additionally, I think it might be fairly likely that both the Blue Man Group and N Corp are involved next. It's a huge event, and additionally, Yuri Lei Heng. Like, finger involvement, majorly so. Lei Heng got his head annihilated, Yuri's head was the only part that survived, we can bring someone back from just a head, etc. We're due for blue man group involvement, and N Corp was here last Canto, but also, N Corp was here to collect something related to immortality/continued life, in the district with the techology for bringing someone back with just a head, they were present around the palace, Lei Heng's body was not specifically mentioned after the fact, and they were likely in the area. Gregor also needs to suffer more, so a reminder of what could be percieved as his failures coming back to haunt him fits.||

[dusty sigil]

Also, I just realized, if we’re getting an Udjat ID, it means we’re almost certainly going to see them in part 1 during the raid

[atomic steeple]

We have, for index faust:

• A blue aura below her
• A prescript appearing over her
• A blue indicator over skills and a target
• A white shield around her

[fickle crown]

I think they're actually the one relaying the message to us

[stoic fjord]

||also, no way that Lei Heng's gunsword is just gone like that, it's actually so fucking cool. Yuri used a red sword two! surely! surely! please KJH! give me Yuri Lei Heng! Give me Thumb Capo yuri serving under N Corp! give her E.G.O too maybe!||

okay now it's pretty much just me wishing for borderline fanservice but also

[worthy haven]

Also Faust using a longsword. She is becoming even more German smh

[stoic fjord]

I genuinely think there's some intentionality to the fates of ||Lei Heng and Yuri||, 7 cantos apart

[lean fjord]

Index Faust seems alright

[stoic fjord]

especially with N Corp being present for both

[dusty sigil]

Legitimately same

[lean fjord]

her animations are a bit... plain IMO
but I think they were trying to play on the Index Proselyte attack sprites in Ruina?

[worthy haven]

Damm. That is a crackpot theory. Def like the first part tho 🤔

[fickle crown]

Btw this is funny knowing that Hong Lu's VA apparently put the pieces together way before Canto 8 was in the game

[dusty sigil]

Yuri’s head being the only part of her that survived and us knowing that you can bring back anyone so long as their head survives makes me really think she’s coming back

[fickle crown]

||Like they actually asked how he knew about the Hong Lu CCTV thing||

[atomic steeple]

Guessing one effect signifies her getting the prescript, the other is just a indicator she has it, and fulfilling the prescript gives her a shield and attack buff

[stoic fjord]

I was genuinely up at 2 am scrawling down notes for this of course it's fucking batshit

[stoic fjord]

even more backing for my insane theories /j

[lean fjord]

it was a fairly common theory tbf

[stoic fjord]

THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING

[fickle crown]

Yeah but still

I think he figured it out around canto 3 or something

I forgot that part of the interview

[lean fjord]

people have been theorizing about it for quite a while, based on some of his early ID upties

[dusty sigil]

Also just, Hermann would absolutely do it just to fuck with Gregor lol

[stoic fjord]

he has not suffered enough for his sins

his mistakes must haunt him

[lean fjord]

since there was always a strong focus on Hong Lu needing to see new and interesting things

[stoic fjord]

he will be replaced by a reminder of his failures, made stronger, more loyal, more capable than he ever was.

surely.

[worthy haven]

I am still fucking so suspicious of Gregor apparently "not knowing" who outis when that Damm horse is his fathoms and he was actually fairly high ranking

[fickle crown]

Tbh I think it makes some sense

Gregor's mind is a mess

[worthy haven]

But that could also be legit and outis operated fairly concealed minus people like the udjat knowing about her ye

[fickle crown]

He probably played it off as something else and Outis's records are expunged

Plus he probably saw all sorts of fucked shit during the war

[stoic fjord]

oh right I also have more batshit insane stuff gimme a sec

[worthy haven]

The canto 1 bugs also didn't recognise her

[fickle crown]

The most he knows is that she's a veteran like him

[lean fjord]

Well he might know about the Horse, but not Outis herself

[fickle crown]

I don't think Gregor actually knows much

Maybe he recognizes the contraption but not the one behind it

Plus I'm pretty sure survival was maybe the only thing on his mind during the war

Something says it'll definitely loop back

But I'm 90% sure Gregor won't bring it up until Outis's canto comes around

[dusty sigil]

I do think it’d make sense that Outis would intentionally keep her name and identity hidden from the smoke wars

With how many people died due to her direct actions

[stoic fjord]

so I'm still on my "Dante is related to an Abberation of Whitenight and One Sin and Hundred of Good Deeds/an abberation of One Sin" bullshit

||but now i also have even more. with Whitenight possibly being paralleled to Carmen, and I think likely others as a possibility, maybe Demian? Given certain details, the snake and Eden, and him being a sort of god-like figure, I think One Sin And Hundreds of Good deeds might have something to do with Bari?||
||especially because iirc she's notably the only time we see a sinless attack||
||and Bari in the source mythology being an abandoned princess who ascends to godhood by performing godlike feats of strength and virtue iirc||

||and with her being possibly/probably the book hunter, her bow being the bow made to hunt stars, and Demian being leader of Those Who Will Be Sovereigns of a Star, the library being related to Light, Stars relating to singularities and wishes, E.G.O and Distortion being a manifestation of desire....||

[dusty sigil]

That’ll get you a lot of enemies

She is nobody after all

She’s not Odysseus

[split beacon]

Daring choice to open the season with a tank

“How do you know” I know what the Udjat do

[atomic steeple]

Also index faust gets a shield

KJH telling us to get ready for a beating

[stoic fjord]

do not get into project moon that shit will have you zonked out your fucking gourd this shit induces psychosis I am actually losing my mind

[split beacon]

Sending us an ID that shields the entire team like an Udjat means he’s going to throttle us

[stoic fjord]

my hands are shaking as I try to think of more that I haven't gotten to yet because I feel like I'm missing something

like I think I had a thread of reasoning last night at 2am involved with all this but I can't remember right now

[fickle crown]

Ammo tank goes fucking hard actually

I love it

[stoic fjord]

true

[atomic steeple]

Maybe faust gets a shield for each successful prescript, while hitting a certain number of prescripts lets her do powerful attacks

[split beacon]

I’M HERE TO FUCKING KILL YOU
-KJH

[stoic fjord]

especially with her being sinking, fucking with clashing and shielding allies, presumably?

we're so boned

[atomic steeple]

So she protects herself while building up a big hit

[worthy haven]

And that assault is most likely only act 1

[fickle crown]

KJH creating enemies with another unconditional damage passive to retraumatize you after Canto 7:

[stoic fjord]

it did seem like that in the trailer

[stoic fjord]

dude we're actually in for the wildest fucking ride of our lives

we're so fucked

we're so unbelievably fucked

[split beacon]

The Udjat are notably specialized in doing this stupid interlocking shield strat where they all shield each other and turn into a wall of indestructible assholes

[stoic fjord]

just the IDs and E.G.O. have me so so so fucking worried

[split beacon]

I’m afraid that we’re going to need that shield wall strategy

[stoic fjord]

never fucking with SotC tier threats ever again we're gonna get our asses handed to us 😭

[dusty sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/gregor-gregor-limbus-short-king-limbus-limbus-company-gif-14995632516426412542

His return

[worthy haven]

Index dude is gonna rip us opan

[stoic fjord]

it has never been more clear why the pull currency is called Lunacy

[worthy haven]

Also CAN HE STOP MOGGING US

[stoic fjord]

because we are genuinely going to lose our minds

[worthy haven]

Locking way to cool in the ahadows

[fickle crown]

Imagine the all tank team lmao. Udjat Outis with Zwei Ishmael and Daishu. The three invincible cunts

[atomic steeple]

Hm, index faust might stack debuffs maybe, alongside the sinking she does
To represent the prescripts overwhelming and outsmarting opponents

[fickle crown]

Actually I might bring Zweimael instead of Fudamael to this canto

I think she'll be more handy

[stoic fjord]

we just need to last 5 more days

[atomic steeple]

You know, kinda wishing the index proselytes were this complex in ruina

[worthy haven]

Hmm prob go bleed and cut out outis is for red eye or n, kk duo and 4 fiends

[stoic fjord]

Wu Sang, Maost, Cockcliff as well

[fickle crown]

Tbf Ruina is held together with duct tape and dreams

[split beacon]

grabs shoulder
Dante we are sooo fucked. The Udjat is a unit specializing in a self-reinforcing defensive system that prevents most of the damage they take. Our Heishou assassins are gonna get vaporized.

[atomic steeple]

Yeah, think the pinocchio fight glitched on me

[stoic fjord]

my heishou team is not cut out for this shit bruh

we only got two roosters we weren't made for this shit

don't even got any tigers or dragons we're so unbelievably boned

[atomic steeple]

Guess index and the mooks are gonna be crazy levels of damage

[split beacon]

I love how every time we get actually hard content

The Heishou get NUKED

[fickle crown]

Maost specifically gets disintegrated turn 1, millions cry because they lost their DPS and fluid sac

[worthy haven]

Depends!

[atomic steeple]

Index faust will explode people

[stoic fjord]

||Lei Heng|| they did well against ime

but also he got hard nerfed

[fickle crown]

Lei Heng I ran Bloodfiends lmao

Unnerfed

That was rough

[split beacon]

The Bloodfiends were a much stronger team for that fight tbh

[stoic fjord]

overall I think the heishou are solid it's just the hard stuff in-game is kind of a counter to some of them so it's hard

whereas other teams are more adaptable

so I guess uh

we're back to sinking

[worthy haven]

First try Lei heng while forgetting to equip any egos will be my brag to friends moment in limbus for a long while

[stoic fjord]

that or I soldier onwards

[split beacon]

I just think it’s really funny that the “OP EZ MODE” team has no health and gets liquified when they get hit with the red coin stare

[worthy haven]

Maybe I just go six sinking and then put red eye ryo in there as seventh

[stoic fjord]

yeah

[keen palm]

To be fair there was no way to do unnerfed Lei Heng with Lord Hong

[atomic steeple]

At least for act 1
It's too soon after canto 6
I'm guessing will get other statuses later

[stoic fjord]

no like

[fickle crown]

the 6 unbreakable coins vs the 88/15 bleed stack:

[stoic fjord]

I'm gonna need to run my sinking team

instead of heishou

[lean fjord]

Heishou deal fine with red coins IME

[worthy haven]

Who needs status build up smh. Just hit em!

[stoic fjord]

for me, I have to clash with the tankier units, but yeah they're generally fine, especially with command meltdown

[keen palm]

The main benefit of Heishou is that you can pretty happily sacrifice like 10 sinners

[lean fjord]

Maost and Wusang can easily soak some hits

[fickle crown]

the thing with heishou is that a lot of them are made to die

[stoic fjord]

and hong lord using dim. shred and TotTB

[stoic fjord]

more s3s!!! more s3s!!!!

6 trillion AoE damage by killing everyone on my team

[lean fjord]

Hong himself is made of paper of course, but he also has like 2-3 don't die buttons

[stoic fjord]

One built in and two egos

On top of team support

[worthy haven]

I do need some new pride poise units STAT tho xd

[stoic fjord]

And 3 IDs tanky enough to keep him alive

[fickle crown]

also I think Thumbsault (as always) will come in clutch with this canto

[worthy haven]

I need to level him or any burn unit sometime

[fickle crown]

tbf Thumbsault is a good standalone

like even without tremburn he's very functional

[stoic fjord]

I have burn almost fully complete, I just need firefist, new IDs from season 7, and a billion thread for UT4

And I guess I could level Liu Rodion and Ishmael but i also doubt they're remaining relevant for too much longer

[worthy haven]

Ye imma prob run fiends cut outis is, kk duo and red eye ryo

[fickle crown]

we NEED Thumbmael

god imagine if she gets the thumb boss ID

[gentle mulch]

1. tests out ideas for killing off sinners for forfuckingever
2. ids meant to blow the fuck up and die like specifically die and blow up
3. adds a continue button to the upcoming season
4. status resistance

[sudden arch]

Bets on what the seasonal status is this time?

[worthy haven]

You gotta run the sinner for the canto

[gentle mulch]

yeah he wants us to DIE

5. gives us a bunch of tank IDs

[fickle crown]

KJH making the gacha lovers pay for running unga bunga teams

[worthy haven]

Fret not

[gentle mulch]

yeah pay is right

collect my teambuilding

[worthy haven]

We have unbrilliant glory last stand Gregor

[sudden arch]

I will run the full heishou and there's nothing KJH can do to stop my unlimited S3-2 works

[worthy haven]

Unbrilliant glory will come in clutch for sure

[lean fjord]

I feel like Ish does not have the right attitude for the Thumb

She wouldn't be able to not talk shit about people

[gentle mulch]

collect my coin reuse

[sudden arch]

Thumb Gregor

[gentle mulch]

thumb capo of capos

ishmael

[sudden arch]

Or thumb outis

[gentle mulch]

talking smack

[fickle crown]

looks at Lei Heng, then back at the cinematic where the Thumb "parent" smacks the child so hard you hear a crunching noise while saying someone looks like shit

are you sure about that

[stoic fjord]

Yeah so make her sottocapo

[lean fjord]

Ishmael doesn't hold back if she thinks her boss is doing bad
And that's IMO just not how you get far in the Thumb

[sudden arch]

Thumb Outis would finally give her a burn ID outside of walpurgist

[stoic fjord]

Yeah...

Though also ||Lei Heng made it pretty far||

[lean fjord]

Lei Heng bullies people below him while technically keeping to the propriety of the Thumb to people above him

[fickle crown]

also realistically I think it makes sense given her themes in her canto regarding her blind obedience to Ahab getting her hurt in the end and how that obedience in turn led to her crewmates ultimately dying

[lean fjord]

I would honestly see that as Index Ishmael moreso

[atomic steeple]

Still, she disrespect ahab even then
Such as entering her room without permission

[lean fjord]

Index or Middle is probably where I'd put Ish

[atomic steeple]

She just hoped to be done soon with the hunt and go home

[stoic fjord]

I just need thumb Gregor with a shotgun arm

[stoic fjord]

And I'll be happy

[fickle crown]

Ring would be hilarious lmao

but it's not very fitting tbh

[keen palm]

I don't care who it is

I want Middle IDs

[stoic fjord]

Any kind of gun arm really

[dusty sigil]

I can’t wait to reach the end of part 1, we cleared out the raid and everything is winding down

Only to hear EDM in the background

[fickle crown]

lmao

the third return of ricardo

[dusty sigil]

As employees of limbus company

The entire company could be considered our associates

As such, the extermination order applies to it as well

[stoic fjord]

Ricardo gets fucking annihilated by a singular Udjat to indicate that shit is getting real

or something

[dusty sigil]

Always bet on Ricardo EGO

[worthy haven]

Nah I think this is something where Ricardo will not show I think

As part of the assault

[dusty sigil]

Honestly I am curious if this assault will be the whole canto or just part 1

[worthy haven]

Based on the trailer we also only really know that an index person is involved

I think part 1 only

[dusty sigil]

Because it’d feel weird to not go to the house of spiders after it was set up so much

[stoic fjord]

given Canto 8

I think genuinely the first part

like it's the opening act at most

[dusty sigil]

Yah

[worthy haven]

And index dude seems really insisted on luring ryo "home"

[fickle crown]

I wondwer

will this be the canto where we see

[dusty sigil]

Oh yah that could be his objective

[fickle crown]

the b u t t o n

[dusty sigil]

The button is on your winrate button