I am hoping for like. Ram Outis
#Project Moon Games: Lobcorp, Ruina, Etc.
bronze zephyr
tiny cave
3?!
bronze zephyr
It's one more banner
sudden arch
If we can have multiple h corp ryoshu IDs then we still need heishou Ishmael
And also heishou meur
bronze zephyr
please god no
ebon forge
its most likely an EGO banner
bronze zephyr
Nah it's an R Corp ID, she has the R Corp markings
likely 2nd pack reindeer? teased in canto 8
bronze zephyr
I can't imagine we're getting 3 more IDs, much less seasonals
fickle crown
as a solo runner though good God I wouldn't risk it with burning haze
That fucking bull has ended so many runs
Forget Teth, that thing hits harder than some Waw abnos
keen palm
whats the rental team now anyhow\
Rupoise
Cinq and Dailushu and Shi
and then like some random additions
fluid whale
It's pierce poise without any of the big pierce poise memes
It's just the man who fucking loves teamkilling
Like they could've at LEAST given us the funny stabbing Yi Sang
fickle crown
Depressed gunman goes on a killing spree
keen palm
It is kinda funny we didn't get a Kromer announcer
Fueling my theory that Kromer will return
uneven canopy
demian saved her top half for a special surprise
admittedly we didnt get hermann or sonya either
bronze zephyr
3 hours...
gentle mulch
wehhhhhhhh
ebon forge
faint pivot
Forget Teth, that thing hits harder than some Waw abnos
What
Blazing Bull is a TETH???
faint pivot
what is this team
Poise flavors
bronze zephyr
ebon forge
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DYvUxa24wo
No S3-2 or anything, interesting
Just a standard issue 1 pager kinda deal
split beacon
She's got Mind Flay
that's weird
I dunno, it's weird. I feel like Project Moon can't possibly be missing the fact that a Charge/Sinking Rodion ID is gonna overlap with the Knight of Despair, and this ID's trailer doesn't display any visual effects for Sinking. I wonder what the hell they're cooking with her.
bronze zephyr
surely she's not charge sinking
split beacon
the other Reindeer are
bronze zephyr
i knowwww but
tiny cave
mind flay is like the core thing of reindeer
bronze zephyr
ugh i wish she was 2nd packkkkk
tiny cave
looks like hers is s3 like ish and not s2 like hong
ebon forge
oh my god I can totally try to VA Hongler shitposts
atomic steeple
I dunno, it's weird. I feel like Project Moon can't possibly be missing the fact...
Tremor charge? No burst, so not it
Maybe a debuff focused charge rather than dual keywords
Charge joke
atomic steeple
ebon forge
i accidentally converted all my boxes to ish instead of rodya 
sang: lantern
fau: regret, gripper, bl
don: cinq south, bl
ryo: RB, w corp
sault: w, r, dieci,
hong: k, yuro, dieci
heath: pequod, sunshower, kk,
ish: r, liu, pequod, zwei
rodya: rosespanner, dieci, devyat
sinclair: devyat, molar
outis: molar, w, seven
gregor: rb, kk, awls, twinhook
well
i guess im getting zwei ishy
or liu
bronze zephyr
God I also keep mistaking reindeer rod for ish lmao
tiny cave
Let me check what I’m missing
atomic steeple
Not 2nd pack stuff, huh
Are we getting set up for an R corp intervallo? That's twice we got r corp stuff at end of season
ebon forge
look a (former) distortion!
bronze zephyr
She’s not second pack I’m so sad ab it
I hope her uptie story is really good to make up for this, she has to hang out with ish and hongler /lh
atomic steeple
SOme asshole on reddit pointed out sinking graphic effects, so seems she is charge sinking like other reindeers
bronze zephyr
Sigh
ebon forge
yeah its a reindeer (generic)
bronze zephyr
We got Kodya this season what are they Doingggg
atomic steeple
SOme asshole on reddit pointed out sinking graphic effects, so seems she is char...
(They got mad I suggested tremor charge)
tiny cave
Sang: N/A
Faust: Shi, Multicracked, Boys’ Love
Don: T Corp, Middle, Cinq South, W Corp
Ryoshu: Chef
Mersalty: R Corp, W Corp, Dieci
Hongers: R Corp, Dieci, Yurodivy
Heathcliff: R Corp, Pequod
Fishsmell: R Corp, Captain
Rodion: Dieci, Kurakumo, Rosespanner
Skincare: N/A
Outism: W Corp, Molar
Gregnant: G Corp, Allen, Twinhook
The world where she’s second pack charge tremor would have been so ideal
tiny cave
Feels like the only essential IDs are maybe W Outis and Multicrack Faust for charge
Am missing a number of good EGO tho
bronze zephyr
Charge to me is just slapping a bunch of generalists on a team and watching them go at it
tiny cave
Ya that’s pretty much it
bronze zephyr
Same w poise but that’s got fullstop and bl shenanigans
tiny cave
The only real synergy IDs are W Outis, Middle Sinclair/Madonka (only because of envy res) and Electric Screaming/Telepole EGOs
atomic steeple
Charge to me is just slapping a bunch of generalists on a team and watching them...
We need charge bloodfeast to make it more team based
bronze zephyr
W Corp faction ID plz
tiny cave
W Corp L5 agent coming soon
atomic steeple
Charged cloud
It accumulates spent charge, activating buff as it grows, and periodically hits the otehr side with charged lightning
tiny cave
when will we fight malkuth
Patron Librarian of History uhh
Who does Malkuth align to
Hod is Rodion right
atomic steeple
It uses total spent charge for buff effects, and has cloud charge to spend on the lightning and effects ids/egos use
atomic steeple
Who does Malkuth align to
SInclair?
bronze zephyr
Ish Rodya Sinclair or Gregor will get L5 and it will be peak
bronze zephyr
From wha?
atomic steeple
Also some effect to make accumulating/spending charge help other allies gain charge or get buffed when spending it
tiny cave
Hod’s thing is the whole “oopsie woopsie I accidentally summoned the head and killed all my friends”
ebon forge
it feels very binah outis
tiny cave
Which feels like it ties more to Rodion’s backstory
bronze zephyr
“Accidentally”
atomic steeple
Hod is the hope to be a better person
tiny cave
Probably gonna be Outis cos they’re the same VA
atomic steeple
Hod's thing is she wants to be good, and to be happy with her community
bronze zephyr
This was my read
ebon forge
net sang is like
tiny cave
I would have put Yesod or Hokma Yi Sang
ebon forge
literally 1:1
atomic steeple
she gives angela vibes to me ngl
Makes sense.
Angela was made from carmen
And faust might come from carmen's seed
ebon forge
for irl stuffs
tiny cave
But Nutzach fits
ebon forge
if we take into irl sang
it fits really nicely
i dont know enough about hod/tip/hok tho
and yeah roland heathcliff 999%
bronze zephyr
If anyone other than Heathcliff gets a Roland ID I’d be so shocked
ebon forge
also who would be angela if not faust
ebon forge
i think we'll get library EGO: Plague Doctor or something like that for Angela
not so much a permant ID that directly connects to her
but an ALEPH ego suit that binds their stories together or something like that
tiny cave
Lobotomy EGO: Plague Doctor or Library EGO: Plague Doctor would slap
ebon forge
exactly
we dont have plague doctor EGO gear tho right?
for lob corp
specifically lob corp
tiny cave
Plague doc has an ego gift but no suit/weapon
ebon forge
yeah thats what i was thinking
tiny cave
This was my read
I feel like Argalia and the rest of the ensemble will be separate from the library IDs
atomic steeple
So what does mind crush do?
tiny cave
Argalia: Ish
Elena: Don
Yesterday’s Promise: ?
Jae-heon: Ryo
Greta: ?
Oswald: ?
Tanya: ?
Eileen: Faust
Philip: Obv has to be skincare
atomic steeple
Tremor weeps
atomic steeple
Charge sinking tremor
tiny cave
So what does mind crush do?
atomic steeple
You know, she seems more stable than other reindeers
tiny cave
It’s a pretty basic skill
atomic steeple
Maybe sinking is a lesser part of her kit
tiny cave
I expect it’ll just end up as a S3-2 Atk weight 3, maybe unfocused volley, each coin raises stagger threshold and does some nominal amount of sinking
tiny cave
Maybe sinking is a lesser part of her kit
Sinking is barely a part of Ish’s kit
atomic steeple
So charge that raises stagger without tremor
tiny cave
Ya Ish and Hong both do it already
atomic steeple
Tremor is better as burst damage anyway
atomic steeple
Ya Ish and Hong both do it already
I mean, I read hongler was good in sinking team
tiny cave
He’s okay
atomic steeple
With spicebush
tiny cave
Not with spice bush
His count is very sussy for spicebush you’d rather use Butler Faust as slot 7 for that
atomic steeple
Oh, the other sang?
tiny cave
Yea
tiny cave
She’s 4th pack so we’re assuming she is like the other 4th packs
She could suddenly be charge tremor but there was no tremor bursts in the trailer
atomic steeple
SOme asshole on reddit pointed out sinking graphic effects, so seems she is char...
.
tiny cave
Rip Dieci Rodion maybe
Though honestly
Dieci’s 5 potency S2 and 6 count S3 is hard to beat
cosmic gorge
Punch nun still has a shitton of shield doesnt she
atomic steeple
Please, electric screaming suit for charge
atomic steeple
Pain Threshold [legendary]: Yield your flesh
Reaction speed [legendary]: To claim their bones
cosmic gorge
Bamboo Hatted Harry
With Kim
atomic steeple
faint pivot
PMoon x Toby Fox collab = me dead from what's mistaken as an overdose (it is but it's from Peak than anything so rubbish)
hybrid lynx
PMoon x Toby Fox collab = me dead from what's mistaken as an overdose (it is but...
Fucking what
atomic steeple
What I posted was a deltarune crossover
hybrid lynx
Ah
gentle mulch
oh it's another reindeer
hybrid lynx
Merry Christmas
gentle mulch
It's probably like. a mindless killing thing for next canto
Merry Christmas
uhh
I could shard another ryoshu
or i could get a bunch of thread to help uptie everything I've got
stoic fjord
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DYvUxa24wo
Please please please let her have an interesting and new gimmick so she doesn't get fucking spitroasted by Dieci and KoDya
...
Ok maybe I should use different terminology
atomic steeple
Please please please let her have an interesting and new gimmick so she doesn't ...
Love yourself
stoic fjord
Love yourself
?
cosmic gorge
atomic steeple
Joke about the rodyas
stoic fjord
Please please please let her have an interesting and new gimmick so she doesn't ...
Is there anything she could have that wouldn't make her extremely outclassed the moment she's released
I don't want to doompost but genuinely they're gonna have to cook up something insane to not have her be dead on arrival
Like, I am genuinely so fucking concerned for this ID's viability
atomic steeple
Is there anything she could have that wouldn't make her extremely outclassed the...
Amplifies her and teams's power when with other charge units?
stoic fjord
Unless they somehow make this like. The start of R Corp commander IDs or something
That would actually be pretty cool
atomic steeple
Charge bloodfeast? Reindeers do hear more voices as people die in battle
stoic fjord
I want R Corp to become like. A charge subclass, almost
More focused on general team support through commanders or smth
stoic fjord
Charge bloodfeast? Reindeers do hear more voices as people die in battle
That would be cool yeah
Could also give passive buffs to R Corp IDs in general, maybe
Listen I just need Nikolai Outis and then Myo and the Rhino guy please
Actually I would be okay with just Nikoutis and a Myo ID for one of the Ruina walps
Anyways manifesting Cobalt Scar Heathcliff and Crimson Scar Ishmael real hard for next walp rn even if I know it's not likely given their recent glut of IDs and such
atomic steeple
Listen I just need Nikolai Outis and then Myo and the Rhino guy please
Raven outis
stoic fjord
Raven outis
Also true
Fuuuuck I want Lob Corp to somehow become an actual team comp
Or like
E.G.O users
Genuinely KJH give me an ID that makes E.G.O gear users a team
It doesn't even have to be good just make it somehow work in MDE and my life is yours
The only thing I need is the ability to run some fuckass team that's just E.G.O gear users please they need to farm infinite aura together
atomic steeple
Fun idea
Ghostbusting intervallo in r corp
Use all that folklore about ghosts interacting with electronics, and ghostbusting equipment
Then find out the horrors of r corp through the dead, who are also exploited as a new source of energy to replace their loss of l coro
stoic fjord
The only thing I need is the ability to run some fuckass team that's just E.G.O ...
MB Outis would do jack shit because there's no other Burn but it would be cool
faint pivot
MB Outis would do jack shit because there's no other Burn but it would be cool
The nefarious Firebird:
stoic fjord
The nefarious Firebird:
True...
atomic steeple
Oh, the hell screen has a painting of a seer as a spider
atomic steeple
Canto 7 spoilers
||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTN78u8Wsh0||
dusty sigil
stoic fjord
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhLJ7m_UVVo
my favorite color fixer... the Turquoise Echo
atomic steeple
Funny when I got it
atomic steeple
dusty sigil
https://anonymocha.tumblr.com/post/783543185283694592/i-drew-this-a-few-weeks-ag...
Giving this to Gregor
cloud wadi
Does estrogen help with the sorrow of being an unwanted vermin and a burden on society
dusty sigil
Idk about that part but hopefully the gender euphoria will balance that part out
This is Gregor to me btw
keen palm
You give Gregor Estrogen and the bug arm turns into a female bug's arm
he remains otherwise exactly the same
uneven canopy
the bug arm sucked all the estrogen outta him...
dusty sigil
One last punishment from Hermann
stoic fjord
I love murdering my friends for massive AoE
keen palm
cloud wadi
I can’t tell if rodion is less or better adjusted at being a reindeer than r corp hong Lu
faint pivot
She's rolling with it better at least
She seems more resigned in the process than Hong
cloud wadi
Yeah
But she also sounds like she’s merely coping and about 5 seconds from snapping
Still
Something has to be said
If she’s survived a fight that killed almost every other reindeer
She must be pretty exceptional
stoic fjord
what if she's the Reindeer leader post-Rudolph
faint pivot
That'd be fire but idk what that would entail other than a better Mind Crush
main scaffoldBOT
The story just being “Rodion is depressed about having to work through Christmas” is great
That’s not the real reason she’s depressed but eh
Dawnmon (Kutuzov <3) ↩️
fickle crown
If she’s survived a fight that killed almost every other reindeer
Ngl, I thought the implication was that she was the reason there were only two left by the end
cloud wadi
The story just being “Rodion is depressed about having to work through Christmas...
Rodion on the edge of just snapping
fickle crown
I get she's more "sane" but the implications of her having an indiscriminate skill and the fourth pack's habit of sustaining lots of casualties is uh
Yeah
My personal thoughts are that she really does just think it's Christmas over and over again just to delude herself into some form of sanity
"Christmas is over" sounded more like her implying the mission was over to me
But yeah, I honestly think she did just kill all but two of her packmates
atomic steeple
Well
bronze zephyr
yes
atomic steeple
Kody is more sinking focused and rejects charge support
bronze zephyr
unless R Rodya is somehow not charge sinking
atomic steeple
Since unique charge is a bit wonky
bronze zephyr
?
atomic steeple
And hers doesn't gain potency
worthy haven
it would be really funny if r corp rodya gives like charge if she hits allies with her volley or something
atomic steeple
So she gets prioritized for "unit with least charge" effects
Even if she is swimming in count while other units are starving
bronze zephyr
oh hm ic
atomic steeple
Plus some other stuff I don't remember now about unique charge
faint pivot
gentle mulch
is ncorp ryoshu really that important to shard or should i try threading up some EGOs
faint pivot
is ncorp ryoshu really that important to shard or should i try threading up some...
Important for what
faint pivot
C/A
- If just 1 Blemor unit that isn't Ryo or Greg is introduced next year then she's needed for that double status team
- NSang is plenty useful on his own even in a regular team but Aweshu def. makes him more consistent and/or affordable if you're fighting long enough to hit 7 on both of them
- C/A the EGO supports the ID and not the other way around but it's still pretty good
atomic steeple
I have found aweshu good, if wonky
She does good damage for me
but building up to her enhanced s3 can be a pain
I put her at ut4 just to make it easier
faint pivot
This is coming from an MD-tinged view but I feel like you're encoruaged to use the build-up function of IDs tangentially until you hit like...floor 8 or 9
atomic steeple
Her enhanced s3 is an aoe
Dead enemies get turned into chunks of meat
Her tremor stuff is somewhat useful as a sidegrade in md
build bleed while grabbing some extra tremor stuff
faint pivot
Wait does Ryo even have a good Bleed ID outside of her?
atomic steeple
I think Reap is
faint pivot
REAPshu doesn't really do a lot of Bleed
atomic steeple
Well ryoshu only has chef as her other bleed id, strangely enough
Huh
We need a good modern bleed ryoshu
faint pivot
Aweshu lmao
cloud wadi
Uh
fickle crown
I doubt it but eh
cloud wadi
Aside from the normal insanity inducing horn?
cloud wadi
She is the only reindeer who doesn’t seem to be complaining about a headache tbh
faint pivot
She might be in her window chatter
cloud wadi
Though I think she’s just coping with it
faint pivot
But yeah she's focusing on the festivities
cloud wadi
Yeah through focusing on it’s Christmas time thing
fickle crown
Tbh I'm mostly thinking this since she seems so attached to the concept
cloud wadi
She has gone a little lala in the head
“Look, it’s actually a good… thing… we have to work during Christmas!”
fickle crown
That and again, her helmet is incredibly abnormal given every other R-Corp helmet has had that bright blue glow and not whatever's going on with her's
cloud wadi
“See if we cover ourselves in blood we save on money for costumes”
atomic steeple
Most stable rodion clone
faint pivot
More than stable if what Hong Lu said holds water
main scaffoldBOT
Wrong holiday Rodya
Charlie! ↩️
faint pivot
I used to think that the (Ruina, late Star of the City spoilers) ||R. Corp. rematch being tougher was cause they stopped holding back|| but no, they genuinely get better after every rerun
fickle crown
Actually now that I think about it I'm pretty sure every other R-Corp helmet has opaque lenses
faint pivot
Might be a stylistic thing
cloud wadi
Ishmael and hong lu are still sane but in horrific pain
fickle crown
Even the one eyed variant
cloud wadi
R corp rodion seems to have just lost herself in the sauce to cope
faint pivot
Ro isn't in pain but isn't sane either lmao
fickle crown
Anyways I'm probably overthinking it
cloud wadi
She’s gone a little coocoo
faint pivot
Even the one eyed variant
Oh right, why are our sinners' horns brighter than prior Reindeers?
Is that just cause they're fresher?
fickle crown
Because they're active
Reindeer antlers don't glow until they start hitting things basically
cloud wadi
Maybe rodion got special tinted helmets for Christmas cheer
fickle crown
But yeah, I'm convinced that her uptie story will involve her friendly firing half of her team
cloud wadi
Honestly she sounds like the exaggerated version of a Korean corporate office worker lmao
In her uptie story
Despairing over the fact they have to work through the holidays
And forcing themselves to have holiday cheer
Do you think reindeers ever politely ask the opposition to surrender and die
Which faction would politely ask their enemies to surrender and die
atomic steeple
Which faction would politely ask their enemies to surrender and die
Thumb
Also ring might request you submit to becoming art
fickle crown
Which faction would politely ask their enemies to surrender and die
T-Corp
Legit just a skill called "Please stop." lmao
faint pivot
Reindeer antlers don't glow until they start hitting things basically
Looked up a video, I honestly didn't notice this when I fought them lmao
stoic fjord
bey wait a minute isn't this a reference
cloud wadi
Wait huh
Her helmet glowing red actually is weird
Rodion also brings it up
And it’s blue in her combat sprite
stoic fjord
it looks like it flickers between red and green in some of her sprites
faint pivot
bey wait a minute isn't this a reference
cloud wadi
stoic fjord
it looks like it flickers between red and green in some of her sprites
I think it being red is probably there for Rudolph vibes so my out there prediction is that she's gonna be our first R Corp commander ID
fickle crown
Nah
fickle crown
Because the other commanders don't seem to wear helmets at all
cloud wadi
It’s got christmas light mode
stoic fjord
yeah
stoic fjord
Because the other commanders don't seem to wear helmets at all
oh yeah you're right
hrm
fickle crown
Could honestly be a distinction thing though
fickle crown
I think her S2 being a volley is part of the appeal
stoic fjord
I don't want her to be completely overshadowed by Depressed Lesbian Rodya
I want Christmas Rodya to be a genuine contender......
fickle crown
I think she's supposed to be an AOE nuker tbh
stoic fjord
that would make sense actually yeah
cloud wadi
Yeah
She’s aoe nuke
She probably distributes her damage out a lot more than kodion
Which could be good or bad
stoic fjord
Sinking already has a good amount of single target, an AoE nuke would go nicely, especially with other sources of single target
though also Wild Hunt requires a lot more management than KoDya even if not like. actually difficult to manage
cloud wadi
Notably adept heathcliff is a serious contender despite having far less single target damage than Mao Faust
Just because he’s got a lot of aoe in that s3
fickle crown
Adept Heathcliff ironically has more longevity imo
S3-2 actually gives him HP recovery on top of his death denial and singular stagger bar
I think?
I may have forgotten
Also AEDD gameplay lmao
But yeah, funnily enough an early stagger bar is good in longer fights
Since he gets an early dead turn before any gimmicks come into play
Then he can just go hog wild and not worry about stagger lmao
I get he's not super broken but I see what PM was thinking with him
fickle crown
that would make sense actually yeah
Funny knowing we got shockwave at home
stoic fjord
she's so cute.......
anyways I think someone else mentioned this theory but I think it's fairly likely that in some way Christmas is her coping mechanism and she's genuinely just on the brink of completely snapping
stoic fjord
What's the fastest way to get Cockliff to blow up
he's honestly probably one of the hardest Heishou to kill in MD
ngl
stoic fjord
he's got a defy death, if you have like
Grey Coat or the bloodbag he genuinely just doesn't die unless something does six trillion damage to him two turns in a row
faint pivot
I know about that, I'm just gonna shoot him with Target Readjustment Fire when it comes down to it
...actually
fickle crown
I wanna get use out of Dawnclair :/
Shrimply solo with him
faint pivot
Wah if I had Indicant's Trial this would be a non-issue
faint pivot
~~Shrimply solo with him~~
In a team
fickle crown
I know
faint pivot
It's probably easier to use him in solos since well
fickle crown
Tbh I'd actually dedicate two slots to him in a team fight
So he can build sanity faster
faint pivot
He goes ham with SP and he gets more attack with SP
faint pivot
Tbh I'd actually dedicate two slots to him in a team fight
Fair but I wanna implement retreating nonsense with Hong Lord as support instead of core
And you can't retreat if you double slot sooo
gentle mulch
uhhh
i usually swap him in and out for his s3 spam and that usually like
eats at his hp
first best way to blow up cockcliff is just like
stoic fjord
...retreating stuff with Lord Hong works better with both Heishou
faint pivot
6 HP at a time...
gentle mulch
let enemies hit him
stoic fjord
...retreating stuff with Lord Hong works better with both Heishou
both You Heishou I mean
fickle crown
Tbh Adept Heath is just a bad choice if you want him to die. Stick him further in the back and use Cocklair
faint pivot
Fair yeah, guess this team is getting sent to the drawing board
stoic fjord
hey guys does triple status need an ID that has all 3 to work
faint pivot
hey guys does triple status need an ID that has all 3 to work
Yes unless you sac
fickle crown
Rosepanner Gregor
faint pivot
Not necessarily with Fell Bullet mind
faint pivot
You just need to get to the boss node with a malformed team and then nail your sacs
faint pivot
...
okay I'll be back I need to figure out the logistics of a Rupoirn team
That's what I was trying lmao
stoic fjord
lmao
fickle crown
Fair yeah, guess this team is getting sent to the drawing board
The way I'd probably play it is to actually have LCE Faust as a vanguard sinner followed up by two other (fragile) IDs you can sacrifice for rotations (interestingly you can use Jia Ishmael and get the benefit of her on-death passive)
faint pivot
There's 6 poise 5 Burn and 6 Rupture
fickle crown
But yeah, killing Jia Ishmael actually does give her a bit of value imo
faint pivot
So you could bring I unno...Heishou Ryo or smth
fickle crown
Also Drifter Ryo does fulfill a role
faint pivot
In this team?
fickle crown
She basically just adds more damage to Hong Lord's swap outs
faint pivot
Directly, with her s3 on entry? Or?
fickle crown
Her S3 assist, yeah
faint pivot
Discarding IDs to draw them
stoic fjord
maybe I should try that one heishou team that uses NSang to kill them to get buffs for Hong Lord fast?
faint pivot
Thank you Hong Lord, you're the first engine that creates a new card game inside this card game
faint pivot
or try him in longer MD runs?
Try who
Either way, I recommend it
stoic fjord
I wanna try NSang focused MDE
fickle crown
Imo Hong Lord doesn't need teamkilling for buffs once you start doing skill replacements
stoic fjord
Imo Hong Lord doesn't need teamkilling for buffs once you start doing skill repl...
yeah I know
I just wanna use NSang more
I like him
I just don't have the IDs to build Bloise......
fickle crown
NSang imo is funny because he can trigger remembrance
No need to even run him in bloise
stoic fjord
Remembrance?
fickle crown
BL Meursault gets depressed and does better when enough BL IDs die
faint pivot
You need not Bloise
One of the MDE runs I won was literally just "the N Sang formula up to floor 10 except you slowly replace your sacs with the Heishou (and Xishmael)"
fickle crown
Tbh though as a fucking weirdo I don't do a lot of team building outside of the bare essentials because I am addicted to solo running
faint pivot
Completely fair lmao
Lots of ways to tackle this game thankfully
I love it when shit isn't PvP like that
fickle crown
Like solo MD5H (note MDE because that shit sucks) is pretty funny
stoic fjord
BL Meursault gets depressed and does better when enough BL IDs die
I don't have anyone from BL lmao
fickle crown
Ah oof
faint pivot
I don't have anyone from BL lmao
Again, just Poise plus something else is enough
fickle crown
I don't have anyone from BL lmao
Also maybe look at pirate Gregor
faint pivot
N Sang is nailing anything surviving MDE
And/or overkilling your sinners several times over
stoic fjord
but... but then... then I can't run Wusang and XIshmael together.......
faint pivot
but... but then... then I can't run Wusang and XIshmael together.......
Fudamael
stoic fjord
maybe I can stick him on more of a pure poise team
faint pivot
Or Sloshmael for a permanent sac
fickle crown
F...
faint pivot
Fudamael isn't Rupoise my bad my brain shortcircuited
fickle crown
Also imo Fudamael is actually insanely painful to solo with
stoic fjord
Also maybe look at pirate Gregor
why?
faint pivot
Also imo Fudamael is actually insanely painful to solo with
How come
stoic fjord
I thought he was like. kind of mid?
fickle crown
Bleed + Poise and he's a surprisingly good ID
Like all things considered
He does pretty well in his niche
faint pivot
What's PGreg like
stoic fjord
alright
faint pivot
Need to know if it's worth losing yet another sac by investing in him
fickle crown
What's PGreg like
Ammo ID that uses it purely to fuck someone up
faint pivot
We have Pregor and Pegreg
fickle crown
Peggor too
faint pivot
😭😭
faint pivot
Ammo ID that uses it purely to fuck someone up
In a build-up way or does his s3 just annihilate folks
fickle crown
Both kinda
You can instantly proc the S3 or gather unjust enrichment and annihilate a fucker
He's really not that bad imo
Actually in MD with all of the runaway poise count he can get he really doesn't need to worry about coin power conditionals
That and plus coin boost is always funny as hell
But yeah, point is he can punch pretty hard
But yeah, with max unjust enrichment + S3 crit conditional he does a whopping 200% more damage on that last coin
Yes this usually does just gore enemies in the MD
faint pivot
Humu, noted noted
I'll consider adding him to my future Bloise team after I figure out where tf I'm getting bleed count
faint pivot
hrmmmmm... am I cooking.....
Why Zweiclair
stoic fjord
is the Heishou S3 thing only if you have hong lord
faint pivot
is the Heishou S3 thing only if you have hong lord
Yes
stoic fjord
Why Zweiclair
lower level than LCB sinclair, better passive
stoic fjord
okay so we start with Hong Lord, Si Rodion, Si Gregor, Daishu, Fell Bullet, BL Outis, and Sloshmael
first two turns kill sloshmael and Outis
faint pivot
lower level than LCB sinclair, better passive
Wait where are you getting Wrath from? I only know of Fell Sang & Cinq Don, and Sloshmael's only getting you one or two after being shot
stoic fjord
Wait where are you getting Wrath from? I only know of Fell Sang & Cinq Don, and ...
idk tbh lmao
ok let's try this again
faint pivot
I think you could
Settle with a Sinc with red s1 or s2
Then have Youcliff substitute in after?
So he pops his s3 for free red?
Actually which aspect of Fell Sang are you leaning towards
The build up, the team kill, or the immediate boost of the EGO
stoic fjord
idk tbh I just want to use him in MDE lmao
faint pivot
Fair lmao
stoic fjord
I just think he looks cool and I've been playing too much Heishou
I wish I could just throw every single gun user on one team and make it just work
faint pivot
Honestly?
stoic fjord
but then NSang would genuinely just have zero sacrifices to use
because like all of these guys are pierce resistant
faint pivot
You might be better off with that if you plan to spam FB
faint pivot
because like all of these guys are pierce resistant
Do any of them have HP higher than 230
I remember regularly nailing allies for like...450+ in MDE
fickle crown
I wish I could just throw every single gun user on one team and make it just wor...
What I do is run a 5 man team with the FS Duo on top of LCCB and it's surprisingly solid
stoic fjord
this fuckass team doesn't even hit 5 poise users
I have to settle for one non-gun user to make this have even a remote chance of working
fickle crown
Runaway paralyze basically just makes it fucking impossible for the enemy to really counterattack with force because LCCB Ishmael and Rodion are actually hilarious with haste
faint pivot
You might be better off with that if you plan to spam FB
Also because Hong Lord is a no-no in FB spam because
- He's really low HP and therefore is targetted first almost always
- He revives, so doesn't proc FB
- Most importantly, he causes unopposed attacks which always go first, causing Needle & Thread to not apply to FB
faint pivot
Runaway paralyze basically just makes it fucking impossible for the enemy to rea...
Haste from where?
fickle crown
I'm talking about MD
Usually you just use lights + the vine
Fully upgraded and everyone has haste
faint pivot
Yeah I don't know which gift gives that team haste
keen palm
I gotta figure out what team I'm doing for Canto 9
faint pivot
Should I just do Heishou with Dailushu
Daishu solo, without Hong Lord
keen palm
I do not have the EGOs for this
stoic fjord
okay hear me out
fickle crown
or Bleed with REAP
Tbh REAPshu is less bleed and more of a generalist support with charge tacked on
I'd actually throw her into a team with Woutis
keen palm
Yeah but she deals bleed
faint pivot
Tbh REAPshu is less bleed and more of a generalist support with charge tacked on
I mean iirc her potency is pretty swell but 0 bleed count
keen palm
And my Bloodfiend team is good
fickle crown
I usually run her as a healer in my charge team tbh
Since she has access to a healing EGO already and also heals with her S3-2
And before you ask yes Red Eyes (Open) is actually a pretty decent healing EGO from my own experience
Given it rolls well anyways
faint pivot
Since she has access to a healing EGO already and also heals with her S3-2
I'm so thankful her counterpart doesn't actually do her s3-2 btw
stoic fjord
okay hear me out
starting lineup of Fullstop Heath, Fullstop Hong Lu, Cinq Don, NSang, Pequodmael 2 sacs
NSang shoots the two sacs to get Thumbclair and Caposault in
this means we have
....
4 burn
nvm I'm gonna kill someone
faint pivot
Like okay she does much much worse but at least it's later in the fight
faint pivot
nvm I'm gonna kill someone
ABS Faust?
faint pivot
She both serves great as an actual unit and sets herself to blow
stoic fjord
we need 5 burn at the start
faint pivot
Why
stoic fjord
to get both burn and poise gifts up
you need 5 fielded at a time at one point, right?
keen palm
Like these are the Ryoshu IDs I have
My options feel limited
Also is there gonna be a level cap increase
faint pivot
okay okay okay
Witness and believe
https://youtu.be/eELN-gJ6RIE?si=fq3BkeKDcq6XSsLs
Also apparently someone's iterated on this nonsense
stoic fjord
- Fullstop Hong Lu
- Fullstop Heathcliff
- Pequodmael
- ABS Faust
- NSang
- Liu Gregor (sac)
- Liu Ryoshu (sac)
- Caposault
- Cinq Don
- Thumbclair
- MB Outis ig
- Base Rodya for her passive
or
hrm
actually if we switch Cinq Don and Caposault
we can get burnoise up turn 2
and then keep going from there
okay time to try this fucked ass team
wish me luck everyone
if I come back talking about the pointlessness of existence and how much I wish to distort you know something went wrong
faint pivot
Good luck!
stoic fjord
wait this team
is almost sort of pride res capable
wait
does NSang explicitly rely on the teamkill thing
or does he function fine without it
because I'm looking back over what I said and like
if I just put in Cinq Don and Caposault I have both poise and burn keywords up
fuck it i'm tired
I'll think about this tomorrow
hrmmm
Madonka... KoDya... Reinmael... W Heath... REAPshu... SL Sang... Butler Outis?
play Charinking again... maybe...
faint pivot
or does he function fine without it
The teamkilling thing is something he does unwillingly if anything
His numbers are good but since his s3 points at a friendly with 7 Torn Memory you'll feel a bump as the fight goes on
stoic fjord
gotcha
faint pivot
Now granted, his s3 forces allies to be pierce vuln., unlike his EGO
Meaning if it's an opportunistic shot, take it
stoic fjord
does his S3 killing an ally do anything similar to his E.G.O
faint pivot
does his S3 killing an ally do anything similar to his E.G.O
Yes
It's less attack weight but similar damage iirc
faint pivot
To the point that it's recommended that you use it over the EGO in single-target fights
Since you aren't corroding with it
faint pivot
You've done well; Get some rest
stoic fjord
I think I'm just gonna brush my teeth and then get into bed to read yuri manhua
stoic fjord
You've done well; Get some rest
some day I will make genuinely delusional teams
I can make rupoirn work I swear to god
it can happen
ebon forge
https://youtu.be/CcbhWzhZrdQ?si=4Vu16xtHHOmmss2s
ok how the fuck
does it need id cycling for it to work?
faint pivot
does it need id cycling for it to work?
Yes, so does the first one about blurnoise cause that one's missing an xz and
and an xy iirc
split beacon
So is Rodion a film nerd or does KJH just arbitrarily put all the movie references on her
gentle mulch
rodion just has film aura
faint pivot
Wait, this isn't the first?
split beacon
there's a Monty Python joke in Indicant's Trial
dusty sigil
Russians were big innovators for early film
ebon forge
cosmic gorge
Wu branch sinclair
bronze zephyr
Ohdndjsjzjsjxns
hybrid lynx
woagh
rancid raptor
It's not mine
We gathered all our weapons and slapped it on the Red Mist cosplayer
As if he's a Risk of Rain 2 character
ebon forge
HOLY SHIT THE RED MIST?
faint pivot
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1256914548083134525/1449308039495815238/I...
||Seeing her with Justitia unironically gave me trauma flashbacks 😭||
faint pivot
||I didn't even notice Mimicry at first, her second and third theme just started playing 😭||
WHAT IS SHE DOING WITH TEAR-SHARPENED
hybrid lynx
As if he's a Risk of Rain 2 character
there's a risk of rain 2 mod that adds her actually
it also adds binah
rancid raptor
Oh pog
hybrid lynx
she's going to hit you with fucking UNLIMITED EGO WORKS
hybrid lynx
Might take a look at the mod
its titled UnofficialRiskOfRuina
it also adds some items
my fav is the Liu Badge which increases your base damage by 10% (5% for any additional pickups) for every level you've cleared
but there's also the reverb scythe which makes melee attacks deflect all projectiles
that one's a red
atomic steeple
I don't want her to be completely overshadowed by Depressed Lesbian Rodya
I wan...
Well, being more compatible with charge support is a plus
atomic steeple
Also AEDD gameplay lmao
I like the defensive bent charge has at times
atomic steeple
Grey Coat or the bloodbag he genuinely just doesn't die unless something does si...
Goddamn
atomic steeple
And you can't retreat if you double slot sooo
You can't?
tiny cave
You can't?
You can but only with FS Heathcliff
All other retreat units need a backup
If you double slot you’re forced to have no backups
FS Heathcliff’s special retreat doesn’t require a backup
atomic steeple
Oh true
tiny cave
I think Jia Ish’s retreat might also work without a backup
But Hong Lord’s definitely needs a backup
atomic steeple
I think the servant in hell screen will be a fauvist
He makes a lot of animal comparisons
atomic steeple
Oh
With 3 reindeers
Charge sinking is doable
unique bane
stoic fjord
its titled UnofficialRiskOfRuina
UnofficialRiskOfRuina and the Lobotomy Corporation one don't work with the newest updates rn
stoic fjord
okay so
let me explain this one
- FS Hong Lu
- FS Heathcliff
- Pequodmael
- NSang
- Cinq East Don
- Rosespanner Rodya
- ABS Faust
- C.A.R.
- Rosespanner Gregor
- Caposault
- Thumbclair
- MB Outis
with this setup
once I have my final lineup with FS Hong Lu, FS Heathcliff, Pequodmael, NSang, Cinq East Don, Caposault, Thumbclair, and MB Outis/ABS Faust
I should have poise, burn, and tremor all active
the main thing is just that I cannot exist near any attack weight whatsoever
@faint pivot my first triple status... are you proud.....
okay I think I overcooked this
I can't actually kill fast enough to cycle all 3 sac IDs I think
stoic fjord
okay uh
small mishap with Pequodmael
I'm thinking I run her without any E.G.O to corrode
for uh
reasons.
okay I think this can work in longer fights
faint pivot
Oh
With 3 reindeers
Charge sinking is doable
Pandora, Charge Sinking the double status team existed as soon as MagiDon & KoDya were dropped
faint pivot
<@400995719252541450> my first triple status... are you proud.....
Wait lemme backread
fickle crown
I'm thinking I run her without any E.G.O to corrode
Nah
What you do is just get faith lmao
Depends how far you are into the dungeon but it'll eventually pop up at some point
faint pivot
"Just get one of the two elusive keywordless t4s" is...I mean technically yeah that solves the issue but
Easier said than done
fickle crown
I won't lie
If she's doing MDE it actually feels like it's more likely to pop up past the fifth floor
Probably because choices are thinning out
faint pivot
Madam's a she
faint pivot
Probably because choices are thinning out
And yeah this happens naturally but like
There's a reason shop optimization is recommended as a strat at all - it's not guaranteed
fickle crown
But anyways giftless I'd honestly run Liu Sang
Because hilariously enough she does actually benefit from his bench passive
faint pivot
<@400995719252541450> my first triple status... are you proud.....
Hell yeah this fucks
I'm a little sad at CAR being a sac but hey, she rewards you for killing her soooo
fickle crown
Also I won't lie, Rosespanner Rodion is actually kinda insane in a Tremor team. I know she's fairly outdated but I like her performance
faint pivot
Take this with a grain of salt since it's 12 AM for me and I'm running on fumes (and every variant of Between Two Worlds) I'd swap MB Outis and Thumbclair so that the former get an earlier opportunity to build up her Bullets
faint pivot
Also I won't lie, Rosespanner Rodion is actually kinda insane in a Tremor team. ...
Good to know that I won't regret missing out on her as ammo then
fickle crown
Oh yeah quick thing while I'm at it, if FS Heath dies FS Hong still gets that sniper bonus
Which is hilarious to me
Whether that was intentional design or not is uh... Questionable but still
So yeah, if he's on his last bullet and at low HP/staggered, just let Yi Sang shoot him
faint pivot
TIL
faint pivot
Whether that was intentional design or not is uh... Questionable but still
Surely is right?
Pal's been like this for awhile now
Surely PMoon would've fixed that otherwise no?
fickle crown
Surely is right?
I think it's unintentional because he technically counts as dead if he retreats in a non-chain battle
So they had to account for that
But that leads to this interaction where it still works if he actually dies
faint pivot
Welll...I'm sure a little bug and there won't do any harm...
faint pivot
Least it ain't Dante's!
And hey, the Reindeers gun for his ass too
Might as well add an actual gunshot wound to the searing light no?
fickle crown
Also interesting thing to note but Peqodmael directly benefits from the discard and draw strategy
stoic fjord
I'm a little sad at CAR being a sac but hey, she rewards you for killing her soo...
She finishes tremor with minimal health in her slot
I'd love to run proper No Longer Frauds duo Bloise team in MDE but I don't have the tickets for it yet
fickle crown
But yeah, if Peqodmael isn't looking too hot in the sanity department remember
She gets jolly again if you shoot someone in the back of the head
atomic steeple
Pandora, Charge Sinking the double status team existed as soon as MagiDon & KoDy...
Without walpipi
fickle crown
It's actually incredibly funny to me how she technically benefits from the chain battle format
I don't think PM had actually put any forethought into this and it just accidentally lined up with how CBs would work
Peqodmael is the only one having fun when three other people die
dusty sigil
Chat, Roland and Angelica met during their work together on the blood red night case yah?
fickle crown
I think they'd been together a little while before that?
Since they both worked at Charles's Office at the time
dusty sigil
Oh yah
tiny cave
Peqodmael is the only one having fun when three other people die
don't all the bad end ids except nclair get this
fickle crown
Nope
stoic fjord
What about Wild Hunt? I know he at least has a gimmick around ally death
fickle crown
Wild Hunt does an ally revive
stoic fjord
Does Manadon have anything like it?
tiny cave
wild hunt and manager don both get "increase by 5 after an ally defeats an enemy regardless of level"
stoic fjord
Just death stuff in general
tiny cave
but neither get san for ally death
stoic fjord
Hrmmmm
faint pivot
Does Manadon have anything like it?
Manadon gets buffed when her family dies
And she keeps the enhanced skills
tiny cave
spicebush and nclair have normal san
stoic fjord
Doesn't spicebush have lose sanity on successful clash or smth
dusty sigil
Spicebush just makes the enemy miserable instead
tiny cave
and g greg who cares
fickle crown
Also I kinda wish Peqod Ish got coin power for her S2
tiny cave
Doesn't spicebush have lose sanity on successful clash or smth
that's lantern
dusty sigil
and g greg who cares
I hold that isn’t his real Bad End ID
fickle crown
Tree Sang is a weird but fun ID
dusty sigil
It’s just the ID for that one G Corp soldier in his dungeon
stoic fjord
With the "the further we get into the cantos, the greater the sin"
1, 2, and 3 also fall into this pattern right
Like Gregor's is least severe
fickle crown
Lantern Yi Sang is (imo) incredibly funny because he will somehow find a way to win a clash he was supposed to lose and then panic
Truly a man suffering from success
tiny cave
Lantern Yi Sang is (imo) incredibly funny because he will somehow find a way to ...
truly nclair 2.0
fickle crown
I can't count the number of times he won what was supposed to be a struggling clash
faint pivot
With the "the further we get into the cantos, the greater the sin"
1, 2, and 3 ...
Supposedly yes
dusty sigil
I mean Hong Lu’s sin was that he did nothing after the massacre
But like, that feels kinda small fries compared to how many people Don has potentially killed as a bloodfiend, human or bloodfiend
fickle crown
truly nclair 2.0
Unfortunately Hong Lord has the opposite problem where at 45 SP he clashes a billion times, loses, and has like... 20 SP and is staggered++
stoic fjord
I mean Hong Lu’s sin was that he did nothing after the massacre
I think moreso him completely closing himself from the rest of the world and leaving those he cared about to suffer
dusty sigil
I guess so
faint pivot
I think moreso him completely closing himself from the rest of the world and lea...
Him being in a prominent spot to spark change also amplifies his sin of stillness imo
fickle crown
I think moreso him completely closing himself from the rest of the world and lea...
Not just that, imo Hong Lu has the potential to help everyone but unfortunately leaves them all to suffer
He effectively dooms Hongyuan to rot
stoic fjord
Don Quixote I think is mostly similar, just that the results change? I think
And also she didn't have quite the same potential for change
It was more that she was complicit until the point she was forced to leave for her own safety I think?
faint pivot
Kinda hard to compare Hong Lu to anyone since he's the pet project of a Wing Head
fickle crown
We see Hong Lord act as an envoy of change but he does it in the most destructive and violent way possible
stoic fjord
Kinda hard to compare Hong Lu to anyone since he's the pet project of a Wing Hea...
That too
faint pivot
It was more that she was complicit until the point she was forced to leave for h...
Yes
faint pivot
We see Hong Lord act as an envoy of change but he does it in the most destructiv...
Hong Lord isn't the only variant of Hongyuan Hong Lu
stoic fjord
We got so many fuckin "Left when they should have stayed" tragedies in Limbus Company lmao
faint pivot
There's Hierarch Candidate Hong Lu, or rather, was
stoic fjord
Hong Lord isn't the only variant of Hongyuan Hong Lu
True, there's also the one mentioned in Dairyo's thing
fickle crown
Imo the difference between the two is that our Hong Lu is more soft upheaval compared to Hong Lord simply killing everyone he doesn't like and dismantling the entire system in a way that forces change
stoic fjord
I might make my Hong Lord reprise like. A sort of middle ground between candidate Hong Lu and Lord Hong Lu
fickle crown
We got so many fuckin "Left when they should have stayed" tragedies in Limbus Co...
Also I won't lie
Hong Lu probably didn't have much of a choice
Between the Elders seeking more entertainment and Limbus giving him an out
Yeah
atomic steeple
Even after changing my pfp, I keep mistaking red for myself
fickle crown
Like most things in life, he didn't really have any say in his own decisions
fickle crown
Hong Lu's and Don's were (imo) those of inaction
Hong Lu condemns everyone by choosing to go with the flow instead of fighting back while Don blindly followed her father and simply overlooked the issues happening in her family
atomic steeple
I think don wasn't fully honest with herself
A schism was growing
Between her father and the family
fickle crown
Like Don saw what was happening, but thought "Maybe father can still fix this"
atomic steeple
And she pretended not to see it
fickle crown
And she didn't realize the situation was untenable until the rebellion
Or just deluded herself into thinking it was okay
atomic steeple
Dulcinea hates her
Because she was always distant, never acted on her love for the family
Instead she was her father's executioner
cloud wadi
Don’s sin is Pride
fickle crown
It's also worth noting how Don (in Bloodfiend mode) has sloth for her "S1" attacks
atomic steeple
Dulci is bitter because her children and herself loved sancho and the latter acted like that
faint pivot
Like Don saw what was happening, but thought "Maybe father can still fix this"
ManaDon did because she was farther from her father, I feel like our Don wouldn't have gotten the same opportunities
cloud wadi
She saw the fracture in her family but assumed that things will work out anyways
Because she believed her family was special
At the same time she was always aloof and judgmental towards others haha
atomic steeple
Dulci's bitterness is from betrayed love
fickle crown
I think both betrayed love and the fact she's forced into a role
atomic steeple
ManaDon did because she was farther from her father, I feel like our Don wouldn'...
No, the dungeon memories
Sancho said clan members were suffering
fickle crown
Dulcinea wanted nothing to do with the parade
cloud wadi
Dulcinea and the family poured everything into the family to get nothing from Father
Until eventually they snapped
faint pivot
No, the dungeon memories
Sancho said clan members were suffering
Yeah but she didn't expect them to commit filial impiety
Both Dons saw that the family was in terrible shape
Only ManaDon was given the opportunity to hear the real reason why
atomic steeple
Dulcinea and the family poured everything into the family to get nothing from Fa...
And for sancho, ever dutiful helper of the family, to continue aloof, and go further still to executing abd punishing them
cloud wadi
- Gregor is more willing to trauma dump than priest
- Sancho also experienced Father’s neglect
faint pivot
I feel like
Yeah Gregor trauma dumping more than Priest is a factor
But him caving the plan to ManaDon feels like a product of her being closer to the family
By being shoved aside by her father
fickle crown
Ngl I always felt bad for the priest
cloud wadi
Yeah
fickle crown
He was pretty much at the forefront when it came to what the family was going through
atomic steeple
Got all the trauma from everyone
faint pivot
So much he is literally dying quicker
cloud wadi
That being said if our Don also got the treatment from her family members
faint pivot
The treatment?
cloud wadi
Err
Actually talked it out with the family members
I feel like she might’ve found a way to get her father to compromise his dream
stoic fjord
I think if Don's Father knew the extent of the suffering his family was going through, he would have let go of his dream for their sake
faint pivot
She would've had Bari to help her if she was able to prioritize her family over the hijinks
stoic fjord
I think if Don's Father knew the extent of the suffering his family was going th...
I think a large part of it was him in part ignoring it because he wouldn't be able to face it
So being forced to might have led to a better ending
fickle crown
Honestly I think the saddest part of the priest was just
The fact he was probably going to lie down and die in a corner somewhere compared to the others
cloud wadi
I think if Don's Father knew the extent of the suffering his family was going th...
He ultimately does
In both timelines
faint pivot
I think a large part of it was him in part ignoring it because he wouldn't be ab...
That prideful son of a gun not trying sounds...a little off, but I guess chasing his dream was his way of trying
stoic fjord
In both timelines
True, but I mean with him still. Y'know.
fickle crown
Pride came from the fact he couldn't fathom his family giving in to their bloodthirst
And when it did happen he just shoved it under the rug instead of finding a way to stop the hunger
cloud wadi
“Mere trifle thing as an ancient curse of bloodlust”
Eventually we’ll get to the outskirts
And there people will mock us for being concerned by mere trifle little thing such as death
stoic fjord
Do you think he kind of just. Knew that the hemobars were never going to work
Surely he did know the actual origin of the thirst for blood
cloud wadi
Hemobars were never meant to work in that regard
stoic fjord
Ah
cloud wadi
It’s meant to sustain a bloodfiend’s vitality
And to work as a storage solution for blood
fickle crown
It's basically the difference between surviving and thriving
cloud wadi
Everyone knew it did nothing for bloodlust
stoic fjord
Gotcha
cloud wadi
I mean
fickle crown
Like a hemobar is the Bloodfiend equivalent of hardtack
stoic fjord
I might make my Hong Lord reprise like. A sort of middle ground between candidat...
Ideas being cooked up
Will have a first draft soon
fickle crown
Yeah it works but it fucking sucks
cloud wadi
Ye
stoic fjord
Eating nothing but hardtack for 200 years....
Yeah I would rip someone open at that point 😭
stoic fjord
Ideas being cooked up
Hrmmm
Maybe a defense skill that changes depending on some sort of other factor
Like, the heishou retreat counter turning into something for Mang activation
FS Hong Lu has an evade that turns into a power counter...
stoic fjord
Yeah true
stoic fjord
That's only if he runs out of ammo
While fair the concept exists and I can work with it
It's 60 blue tickets to go from 1 to 55 right
atomic steeple
Electric screaming id
Passives: when this unit enters the field, the spent energy gathers into a charged cloud
Gain defense and haste per charge count. Gain offense on the leftmost slot based on potency.
Whenever the cloud discharges, slot in the enhanced s3
S3: Electric Screaming
Gain power from own charge, the team's total charge/members, and the cloud
At enough of these, upgrade to s3-2 (higher attack weight and damage)
Defense activates the s2, grounding refusal, which feeds the cloud faster
cloud wadi
I want an ego ID for one of the WAWs
For lce bokgak
Is that too much to ask
Giv Buddha statue ego id
atomic steeple
I want a waw electric screaming
atomic steeple
Oh
cloud wadi
Tarnished blood ego id who vores the enemy
atomic steeple
Perish
fickle crown
I want an ego ID for one of the WAWs
Ngl I feel like the most likely to get WAW IDs are Effervescent Corrosion and Blind Obsession
Or hell, maybe Ebony Stem
Though tbh I'm not sure if LCCA ever got ahold of Wandering Pearl and DDSC following the death of the whale
Or if N-Corp grabbed them first
I'm betting on N-Corp though since they were already there following the whale's demise
Actually thinking on it
Ahab will probably show up wearing Blind Obsession
cloud wadi
Yeah
fickle crown
Now that I think about it, I wonder if the Canto 1 Abnos also got snagged by N-Corp
atomic steeple
Leggerdemain suit gregor
gentle mulch
I would shard the shit out of ebony stem outis id
a whole gameplay mechanic around delayed rupture count
cloud wadi
I wonder if limbus took control of Everything There