Helldivers 2: For Managed Democracy!

[blissful sparrow]

just did a facility defense with the hulk hordes
Turns out the difficulty comes from different threats
if there is just 100% hulks everyone just sits there in an anti tank emplacement and its a snooze fest

[rotund marten]

I hope we're still Hulking when I'm done with work for the day because I do want to see the planet of hulks

[cobalt patrol]

I can't actually see it as am odifier

[unreal merlin]

Shout out to impact smoke grenades for hard countering bots

[blissful sparrow]

i've had a lot of fun with stun grenades
Just toss one, stun like 7 Hulks and take all the time in the world to deal with them

[graceful bluff]

2 arc grenades tends to kill entire groups of hulks

1 grenade kills a group of anything below that

[graceful bluff]

I still don't see the point of them since you want the smoke between you and the bots, and at that point the regular grenade would work fine

[unreal merlin]

It works best whenever you have to hold a location and bots must approach you, rather than when you're trying to move

It severely limits the amount of incoming fire you have to worry about because they can't accurately (or at all) attack you until after they get through the smoke

Like

B ---- SMOKE ---- H```
and as they trickle forward at uneven rates (raiders first, then devastators, etc) you mulch them

[graceful bluff]

<@&1206091872716595200> Hulkamania continues

[idle hollow]

text says it's not too late

[graceful bluff]

There's some new bug allowing bots to just know where you are and agro randomly even when you're sit unmoving prone with the stealth armor behind a rock wall

They also just need to fucking remove the small turrets

them just knowing where you are at all times is fucking stupid and they haven't even aknowledged them being a problem

[lethal delta]

Apparently

Ship towers are indestructible too?

At least with nukes

[cobalt patrol]

They blow up just fine for me

[waxen hatch]

I have discovered that Oops All Devs and Oops All Hulks are both pain.

I suspect the Railgun might be what I need though.

[graceful bluff]

I'm just so fucking tired of how buggy detection is on the bot front

Patrols randomly know where you are, autocannon turrets know where you are as long as you take a single step inside their hearing range, same with factory striders

And they know where you are even after dying and respawning at that point

[idle hollow]

i havent seen a fucking berserker in ages man

it's crazy

[barren iron]

🔥

[supple siren]

Gunship Towers seem to be explodable by host hellbombs but not others? some vague testing but it's been reliable

[graceful bluff]

gunship towers have always been real fucking weird with hellbombs

[keen zinc]

I don't like having my toolbox locked

Mostly because of War Striders

[rotund marten]

patrols being psychic has been a long-known thing but I've been unpleasantly surprised by the omniscient fortress turrets

factory striders and to a lesser extent warstriders have really good baseline senses and on diff 10 they're at almost every base, I've been bringing AT emplacement to almost every mission so I can use the long sightlines to clear the problems off the map

[keen zinc]

Problems is just that War Striders are an AT tax but there is way more of them then you can bring AT without being able to call in stratagems other than very very slowly picking them off with the quasar

[rotund marten]

the C4 also works but you have to be very careful with it and ideally not the host

[keen zinc]

And if you don't kill them in one shot welcome to 6 more in a bot drop

[rotund marten]

because if you're the host, attaching C4 to a guy aggros them

if you're not the host it doesn't

that's a huge difficulty gap out the gate

[keen zinc]

I ain't really a fan of C4

[rotund marten]

I adore it for stealth

[keen zinc]

Helldiver's ..

[lethal delta]

Portable hellbombs have some issues too iirc

[heady halo]

cant wait for the single use hellhammer

[tame parcel]

Just a big warhammer.

[glad marsh]

Mount the entire portable hellbomb to the end of a stick

[tame parcel]

Hellbomb Lance POV:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunge_mine

[delicate aspen]

tried the hulk infestation modifier and honestly better than the bullshit incineration fuckers are putting us through

[normal juniper]

Yeah I'll take Oops All Hulks over the wonky fire damage/hitboxes any day

[delicate aspen]

between the random fire oneshots, wonky turrets/striders knowing where you are randomly, hulkageddon feels infinitely more palatable

[supple siren]

Without the oneshots I'd be more fine with the incin

[delicate aspen]

wish we had a way to repair the tank too tbh cause man, is it needed

[lethal delta]

The weird supper shotgun the incinerators have is like

Half of the issue with the subfaction

[lethal delta]

YES THOSE

[delicate aspen]

honestly yeah

they either do fucking nothing or reduce you to atoms, no fuckin inbetween

[rotund marten]

I love their colour scheme

bastards to fight though, especially in my usual light armour

They can oneshot you if they're lucky and there's not much you can do about it other than sneaking and gambling

[delicate aspen]

im tempted to just run the whatever % fire resist armour but doubt even that'd help too much

[rotund marten]

I am all in on stealth armour for this

So much stuff on D10 you need to not aggro

[delicate aspen]

i need to grind more for the medium stealth armour but fuckin hell is it suffering to grind with rando's in the off hours

[unreal merlin]

Fire resist armor is enormous vs fire bots

[tame parcel]

Have a friend who got HD2 recently and they are level 8 iirc, having trouble with the Illuminate.

First thing they are wondering is 'Can you kill the flying saucers? They have shields.'

[dark plover]

For the landed ones, you can drop shields quickly with small arms fire (high rate of fire weapon works best) then destroy it with a grenade or explosive in the door

For the flying ones that beam down reinforcements, I don't typically find it worth trying to destroy in most cases.

I should clarify, anything can drop the shields.

[unreal merlin]

You CAN destroy the dropships that respond to probe alerts, but you have to break the shield and then apply a bunch of AT and it's just not really worth the effort.

Grounded ones are easy though, at a basic level you just attack the shield until it drops and then put a grenade in the door

[tame parcel]

I asked if they wanted suggestions and all they said is 'I feel like I'm missing something' and asked the question I asked here.

[glacial light]

If you stick a thermite to the grounded ones they just blow up

The sticked dot pops the shields and the explosive part kills the ship so you can just yeet and go without doing anything else

[unreal merlin]

I think the question needs to be further refined so we know what to answer, but the short answer is "yes you can kill the flying saucers even though they have shields"

[tame parcel]

Fair enough, they didn't seem to want much help at the moment so I could only get that question out of them.

I shared the responses and waiting on a response, though they are also streaming the game for now.

[glacial light]

I agree it's not really worth trying for the flying ones

[tame parcel]

I have since informed them.

[keen zinc]

you can also drop a Orbtial Precision Strike on them and it destroys them

[trail creek]

guys is this accurate?

[knotty folio]

Unflinching in last tier on bots? Lmao absolutely not

[keen zinc]

what even are these

also putting extra padding anywhere but S across the board is silly

it is easily the best passive in every scenario

[knotty folio]

The more I look at this the more baffled I am by 90% of the choices

[keen zinc]

and i aint just saying that because i am always wearing this

[knotty folio]

I can't tell if this is a deliberate troll image or they just play a very different style from me

[unreal merlin]

Gas Resistance doesn't help vs bug acid though, why would it be S tier over all the others

[dark plover]

So you can gas yourself

[knotty folio]

You don't need it to gas yourself

You can stim through gas fine

[unreal merlin]

You can do that vs bots too but it's not like exceptionally better than other armors even if the context is just bugs

Mildly baffling tier list

[knotty folio]

Gas is at least as good against squids as bugs anyway

[trail creek]

I’m honestly just trying to find an armor passive I like 😭

[keen zinc]

extra padding is super consistently good

[dark plover]

Fortified nice on bots

[keen zinc]

every time you barely survive something you can be like "yup extra padding paying off"

[trail creek]

It’s js a bit lackluster imo

Like it’s good

But not fun

[keen zinc]

being in medium armor with the tankiness of heavy armor is so good

no need to put yourself in specific scenarios to get a "pay off" of your armor passive

[blissful sparrow]

Siege Ready never has done anything else but kiss me on the mouth and tell me a sweet good night story

[knotty folio]

Recoil resist is nice for enabling some support weapons

[graceful bluff]

sitting around in gas minefields is fun

heavy gas makes you entirely immune

[keen zinc]

siege ready and extra padding are my two big ones

[graceful bluff]

Medic also not being S tier in literally every theater is also laughable

[keen zinc]

yeah

medic is easily the "best"

[unreal merlin]

Yeah I don't necessarily disagree that it can be fun or effective, but I do disagree with gas somehow being ranked significantly higher than many other armor bonuses that work just as well

[graceful bluff]

Only bad thing about medic is that you look like fuckin' colgate

[keen zinc]

alpha commander

if they add armor color templates medic armor stonks will rise

[knotty folio]

It's part of why Extra Padding is top-tier, you have options ranging from pretty good looking to cheesediver

[graceful bluff]

Gimme light armor medic that looks like the medium green one

[keen zinc]

siege ready DOES have this look which is rad

[unreal merlin]

Recently I've been using the sand armor with the %resistance and +throw distance

[trail creek]

Okay so purely number wise which war Bond after democratic detonation has the most really good equipment, doesn’t matter if it’s stratagems or weapons or armor

[keen zinc]

so close...

[dark plover]

My vote is Urban Warfare or Servants of Freedom

[keen zinc]

i gotta put my say in borderline justice being pog champion

[trail creek]

What huh even is that

[keen zinc]

deadeye, talon, hover pack

[keen zinc]

assault rifle from redacted regiment

its real good

[trail creek]

isn't it light pen?

[keen zinc]

yeah and?

its absurdly good ergo, low recoil, very fast fire rate

extremely easy to hit weakspots and very fast TTK

[trail creek]

I don't wanna go back now that i've experienced heavy pen

[keen zinc]

i also carry the ultimatum for heavy targets

[glacial light]

Heavy is hard to quit once you are used to always having it

Eruptor stays winning

[keen zinc]

the only primaries with heavy pen feel so bad imo

[trail creek]

hey you take that back

[glacial light]

Theres only 1 heavy pen primary

And 1 heavy pen secondary

[keen zinc]

i would like it if the Constitution had heavy pen

that'd be dope

[glacial light]

Im surprised there arent any marksman rifles with heavy pen

[trail creek]

I want an armor passive that auto stims to keep you alive

[keen zinc]

i wish adreno-defib didnt kill you

[trail creek]

ye smth like that

[glacial light]

Adreno-defib is quite unreliable

cause like a broken arm just disables it basically

And things that kill you often break limbs

[trail creek]

but like injecting it for you so no injection animation

[glacial light]

Democracy Protects though always works when it works

[keen zinc]

AD will also just straight up kill you for taking nonlethal damage

[stuck ravine]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/578243741115088897/1469734687881560337/RDT_20260207_103810.mp4?ex=6988bc97&is=69876b17&hm=b8a1ed2751300857bbe602271d3b30c70151a92bd22479915f4dcaae0a7ff745&

[normal juniper]

I think AD would be a much better passive if you can clear its effects with a stim

[trail creek]

I'd love that

[normal juniper]

Like, I understand the point of it being a death march but also I think it should be able to actually revive you if you're prepared for it

[keen zinc]

they just need to make it an actual swan song where you get like, a buff during the duration rather than being slow and bad and awful during

[rotund marten]

I feel I need to get some levels on the suppressor to get the big mag and the 4x to make it great for stealth

it's pretty handy otherwise

[keen zinc]

eh i like the 1.5 over the 4x

[rotund marten]

1.5 is fine for normal combat but it doesn't one tap to the limb so for stealth I really need to be able to score easy headshots at significant range

[knotty folio]

2.5 primaries, the Torcher and Dickle

[graceful bluff]

I'm just amazed they somehow managed to make a storyline showing all the literal worst things about bots

[knotty folio]

Crisper for secondaries, as well as Ultimatum and Reeducator sort of

[graceful bluff]

Reeducator is so good once you click with it

[lethal delta]

I run this exact same look too

[knotty folio]

Mostly it feels weird to call it heavy pen when you're never going to kill something with it directly

[knotty folio]

Huh, personally I've had a ton of fun with Hulkageddon and Jet Brigade

Incineration corp's shotguns are horrible though

[strange vine]

christ hulk surge really is fucking hulkmania

8 hulks from a dropship at once

C4 really does good work

[glacial light]

Ive been chilling with eruptor and warp pack

Flame hulks getting close? Run towards them teleport behind them and shoot into vent with eruptor easy kill

[supple siren]

Hammer has been fun in Hulktown

[glacial light]

Strafe also doing great work killing lines of hulks

I still havent gotten shield nade yet but lure mine into 500 kg also good fun

[knotty folio]

Strafe is great, had times where I would strafe the same choke 3 times in a minute, getting five hulks each time

They love to queue up

[rotund marten]

I am probably going to give the beltfed GL a go here

regular GL kills them but not quickly

[knotty folio]

Yeah, only really feels good when you're hitting them all clumped up out of a dropship

Though regular GL being able to clear a hulk plus all its adds on patrols is handy

[weary granite]

I've brawled with these bastards in close range with heavy fire resist armor. Three to four consecutive shots kills my ass.

[glacial light]

Heavy fire resist armor doesnt help as much as you'd think, definitely not one shot anymore but still feels like youre wearing light armor when like 5 grazed barrages kill you

[dark plover]

Hulk Surge defense missions are fun. They just land and get decimated by anti-tank mines.

[knotty folio]

How does gas do against hulks? Does it successfully confuse 'em?

[dark plover]

Yep

Buys you a lot more breathing room

[knotty folio]

I should try out gas strike on Leseth then

[glacial light]

Also good chance theyll attack their teammates

[keen zinc]

byootiful

[graceful bluff]

It's more stuff like:
Warstriders having literally no weakpoint against anything but anti tank
Autocannon turrets knowing where you are at all times
Factory striders knowing where you are at all times
Patrols aggroing the moment you attack any single one of them(even if they're alone stuck on a rock and you do it with a silenced weapon)
Bot drop bots instantly going into a full aggro state(alongside the rest of the bot drop) as soon as they entire their suspicious state

Several of these have been problems for literal years and the autocannon one annoys me greatly because they did nerf it, just nerfed its damage instead so now it just instantly knows where you are and then proceeds to ragdoll juggle you for 3 to 5 shots

Also factory striders keep knowing where you are even post death, so you can respawn on a commando mission and instantly get popped cross map if it has line of sight

[stone bridge]

The War Strider complaint is blatantly not true

[graceful bluff]

Before you even have control over your character

[stone bridge]

They added weak points multiple patches ago

[knotty folio]

Heavy armor weakpoints

[graceful bluff]

That have twice the health of hulk weakpoints

[knotty folio]

Which, regardless of your opinions on War Striders, is unique among bots

[graceful bluff]

6 senator shots or eruptor shots isn't realistically a weakpoint available to anti tank weaponry

[knotty folio]

Railgun/AMR/Speargun is more realistic

[graceful bluff]

(Literally all of the war strider except its legs has 100% explosive resist)

[stone bridge]

Railgun, AMR, Speargun, Autocannon, HMG

[keen zinc]

heavy armor with normal HP isnt a "weakspot"

[stone bridge]

All common bot front support weapons

[graceful bluff]

Anti Materiel Rifle, also known as an Anti Tank Rifle

[stone bridge]

Dude lay off it lol

[graceful bluff]

Also I'd consider literally all of those except maybe the speargun as anti tank

Though the speargun does literally have anti tank penetration

[knotty folio]

I'm definitely happy not to be much of a stealthdiver, even on commando missions I tend to go with the "stealth is when you have no witnesses" approach

At most I'll leash my dog when running past an outpost

[keen zinc]

Yearp

[keen zinc]

id love to have a dark matter gun that just

https://klipy.com/gifs/goodbye-disintegrate

[glacial light]

I think a dark matter grenade that pulled enemies towards it would be cool

Or one that just teleports everything in it randomly 20 feet in any direction, and I mean any including up or telefragged inside someone else

[blissful sparrow]

Mass Effect Black Hole Biotic as a Grenade

[idle hollow]

The black hole grenades from entropy zero 2 would be great

[tame parcel]

Wonder if we’ll get more direct impact melee throwables like knives. I suspect throwing knives aren’t that good based on what has been said (like once) before.

[idle hollow]

I want like

A flechette grenade

That’s just a portable Gatling strike

[keen zinc]

throwing axes with anti-tank penetration

NORD WARRIOR

[glacial light]

I'm surprised we don't have like proximity mines as grenades

Toss a legally distinct claymore

Directional with lasers

[idle hollow]

This is just the axes the driller gets in DRG

[graceful bluff]

Whatever that drill thing from ultrakill is called

That basically just sticks into something and drills it until it's dead

[blissful sparrow]

isn't that basically the role the Thermite already fulfills?

[harsh kayak]

SEAF grenade: throw it and a SEAF soldier is randomly spawned the nearest place you can’t see

[dark plover]

Deep Rock Galactic proves that throwing axes are an anti tank weapon

[glacial light]

Stupid strong huscarls I loved them

They could direct anything

Even Rhodok crossbowmen, who could just one shot anything that wasn't a huscarls

[tame parcel]

Screwdriver.

I believe the gun it’s on is called the… Railcannon?

The others include the Malicious… and there might be one other now?

Yep, it’s the Railcannon and the variants are Electric, Screwdriver, and Malicious.

[dark plover]

Some kind of anti tank support weapon that acts like of like a thermite would be interesting

[tame parcel]

AT Harpoon Gun.

[glacial light]

Sued by Nintendo

[keen zinc]

throw a grenade, a hellpod comes down, a helldiver emerges and fires an EAT at the nearest heaviest enemy and then dies

why do they die? these specific pods are designated to be used for this because of flaws or failures from the cryo process

and so they are used for this to get SOMETHING out of them

[tame parcel]

Imagine a player deplopying and they get 10 seconds before dying.

[glacial light]

Lore accurate guardsman

[keen zinc]

i think the reason the average guardsman average is so low is because of how hard it is to actually make landfall in 40K, a lot of troop transports dont make it to the ground

[glacial light]

Or get shelled during unloading

Or die trying to establish a foothold when the landing zone isn't cleared

[keen zinc]

yeah, if you take 90% of your casualties in the first wave, averages are gonna make things look bad

like, there was a book where a commissar is leading guys to put down a penal world insurrection and even with the outdated air defence of the prison colony, they still lose a lot of transports during landfall

just because air defence in 40k is really strong, which is why space marine drop pods and imperial guard grav chutes exist

[glacial light]

Also guard regiments aren't combined arms

Tank regiments operate independently of infantylry regiment

So those being unloaded on dropships might not be coordinated with say infantry or artillery regiments or any armor

Lot of otherwise preventable deaths cause they kept the guard decentralized so HH2 traitor guards couldn't happen again.

[graceful bluff]

I just realized a mod I really want for the reeducator

changing it to the model of the sieker from hitman

[glacial light]

Chat what if talon was a primary and it looked liked this

[graceful bluff]

https://tenor.com/view/joker-smile-villain-long-gun-gif-17427254

[glacial light]

Also this talon heatsink should be breach loaded too

[knotty folio]

Lever-action laser primary

[heady halo]

i was thinking today that I want a bolt action laser primary

[glacial light]

That sounds like the proper amount of silly for hd2

Why is eruptor bolt action because why not

[heady halo]

Neo Constitution: cycling the bolt reveals the heat sink to boost cooling speed. doing so in a 1 shot 1 heat sink cycle while shooting achieves maximum efficiency

[glacial light]

Pump action plasma shotgun

[heady halo]

plasma and laser melee weapons

[glacial light]

Im quite surprised that isnt like a plasma/laser melee

You switch on the laser part for extra hot melee

Keep it on too long it overheats and you need to swap it out

[heady halo]

laser sword, which is a stick with a mirror on the end pointing back at you. when you swing, the handle shoots a continious laser beam that bounces off the mirror to make something like a laser edged cinqueada

you have a laser swing and a non laser swing. each laser swing increases the damage of the non laser swing as the blade stays hot. the blade is the primary heatsink, so hitting an enemy with it cools it down faster. however if you miss a swing you build heat super fast

plasma melee that is just an obviously repurposed plasma arc welder named like Knife 2 (the melee weapon of the future today)

[harsh kayak]

Belt fed, bull-pup, lever action liberator

[glacial light]

Belt fed lever action...

I have commissioned art

[graceful bluff]

Belt fed lever action and belt fed pump action are always extremely funny

[glacial light]

Belt fed sniper rifle

I thought it was lever action but guess not

[graceful bluff]

Actually, dark matter shotgun

doesn't shoot darkmatter, but whenever you reload you reload it from a small dark matter singularity filled with shells

the more you shoot in a short timeframe the more it messes up like the warp pack

[harsh kayak]

Someone made the belt fed lever action bull pup AR at some point irl already

[glacial light]

I think bringing that up in polite company would make engineers cry

Let alone a soldier thatd have to maintain that in the field

[harsh kayak]

Aye, fair

[graceful bluff]

They'd either cry tears of despair or tears of joy

weapon engineers love doing stupid shit

[glacial light]

Although engineers have not been known for their sense

[graceful bluff]

There's several companies that do nothing but stupid shit even

[glacial light]

Someone will do it to make other engineers cringe

[graceful bluff]

Like keltec does nothing but really

like their new pistol that's stripper clip fed .380 auto with a rotating barrel

[glacial light]

What

[graceful bluff]

it's called the PR-3AT and is genuinely one of the stupidest pistols I've seen in a long time

Keltec loves two things, stupid fucking tech for the sake of tech, and jamming

[glacial light]

Do I dare look at the blueprint of one of these

[graceful bluff]

It's designed to be concealed carry too so I haven't seen a single person where the grip isn't too small for their hand

I desparately want to see it in a game

[glacial light]

This gets even wilder with every sentence

[graceful bluff]

But yeah I still want a primary talon that's just.. two talons

[unreal merlin]

it's not keltec but https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/556756134367592481/809887540927922266/WHYYYY.mp4?ex=6988f58c&is=6987a40c&hm=6e432fd593fb803176eedb0837028076640fe072ca5053dc97a0fabb507ebbd2&

[graceful bluff]

dual wielding them cowboy style

[glacial light]

Since AH seems to be so opposed to dual wielding I have an alternative solution to 2 talons

2 talons taped together

[graceful bluff]

pointed in different directions so you do half a pistol spin every time you shoot

[glacial light]

Gunchucks except you only hold one end and the trigger fires both and the other end just flies around from the recoil

[wind arrow]

https://www.reddit.com/r/RWBY/comments/8nk52e/sun_wukong_fight_moves_compilation_jokey_boy/

[glacial light]

Yes but worse since its hd

[wind arrow]

but brasch makes it work

[glacial light]

Of course

[tame parcel]

Colt Buntline, Long Revolver:

There is also the 'Rifle' Version' with detachable stock:

I just like sharing this long revolver.

We have a physical revolver, and a laser revolver, and some revolving grenade launchers, sadly there is no other possibility besides to double dip...

Also the Stim Pistol is apparently a revolver? Only on the fact that it can do the revolver spin.

[graceful bluff]

Has anyone ever made a double wheel revolver

with them intersecting like gears

[tame parcel]

...What?

Can you like... draw on MS Paint what you mean?

[sharp crater]

a venn diagram of revolver cylinders... double bullet...

[tame parcel]

What they said can mean a few things.

[sharp crater]

yeah yeah I'm not disputing that, just idly imagining

[tame parcel]

My first thought is like one of those frisbee cylinders but stacked one on top of the other.

Oh, I finally get what you meant.

The Venn Diagram joke I mean.

I still don't quite get what Nalesh meant.

What... did they mean like a Venn Diagram?

Cause if so that'd be so weird.

[sharp crater]

I think I recall Borderlands-esque designs of a giant cylinder "magazine" with normal-sized, separately spinning cylinders where the bullets would normally be on the big one (which is not what's being suggested)

(but it's got more revolving for your revolver)

[tame parcel]

I mean, I honestly have an amazing revolver patent to share.

I have it somewhere else but gonna try and find the original place I got it from again, it's a revolver called the Jack-88.

https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/dd/d5/f4/d32e583cb7948c/00000002.png
https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/54/d0/64/e43bd0ec232632/00000003.png

This is really not the chat for this, it's tangentionally related only because I said there's not many new things for revolvers in the game, and someone said a weird revolver design, so I shared this.

Anyway, here's the Double-barreled revolver with dismountable casket magazine "valet 88", which is a double barrel revolver with a removable magazine of revolver cylinders.

[steady flame]

Talon Perosa. :3

MissCodedVIIrOS (Her/She) ↩️

[Reply to:](#1204832579287519292 message) Since AH seems to be so opposed to dual wielding I have an alternative solution to 2 talons 📎

[graceful bluff]

Basically this but each gear tooth holds a bullet, it'd be extremely stupid, not even give you any extra bullets really, but would be funny

[steady flame]

Hm.. A twin or triple Scythe as a support weapon, laser machine gun.

[keen zinc]

gatling laser

[lethal delta]

I'm a bit saddened that the new shotgun is only lightpen

[tame parcel]

Yeah, I realized that is what you meant but that is quite toony.

[steady flame]

Also fun fact: This with a single gear is called a rotary magazine.

Nalesh ↩️

[Reply to:](#1204832579287519292 message) Basically this but each gear tooth holds a bullet, it'd be extremely stupid, not even give you any e… 📎

[tame parcel]

Yep.

Now am imagining this shaped like an infinity symbol chain inside the magazine and that leads to some nonsense science explanation in game.

[tame parcel]

Also I liked this idea.

[stone bridge]

why?

[keen zinc]

It's good that it's light pen but imagine if it had medium pen that would be so fun and busted

[graceful bluff]

I'd just want it to have more beams without more total damage just because it'd look funny

6 beams is already great but imagine 12

[keen zinc]

Las 32 Tritrident

[graceful bluff]

Tri³dent

[glacial light]

My complaint is the trident should fire 3 beams, if its firing 6 beams then it should be the sexdent

[keen zinc]

It originally fired 3 but one of the upgrades in HD1 made it fire 6

And that has apparently become the standard config

[graceful bluff]

(It's also because a shotgun with 3 pellets would be incredibly bad in an fps/tps style game)

[keen zinc]

Clearly the answer is to do another upgrade that makes it fire 12 for the next war

[graceful bluff]

incredibly low consistency

[glacial light]

I think that maybe super earth is in the wrong in hd92

[keen zinc]

I'm so close to maxing the Suppressor

[true seal]

God why did the update have to drop right at the start of my work period fuuuuck I wanna fight robots

[weary granite]

Dunno if this was already shared

But I must share it again for its whimsy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLakoHKbjtw

[knotty folio]

Chargeable trident, fires more beams with wider spread the longer you charge it, up to 81 beams across a 60 degree cone. Charge it too long and it explodes, sending 243 beams in entirely random directions.

Technically survivable if you're really lucky with the beam directions

[idle hollow]

So the orbs from Phantasm?

https://tenor.com/view/phantasm-gif-19805612

[lethal delta]

I tend to consider shotgun weapons dedicated to middle tier enemies, because these usually require either precision or midpen, and in my very short experience with the trident, it lacks the precision to kill without getting directly in their face. Of course this complaint doesn't really apply to the illuminated

And to clear trash, the better ARs tend to be better 90% of the time

[barren iron]

"YOU CELEBRATE DEATH AND DESTRUCTION"

[agile fable]

yall we may or may not be the bad guys

[unreal merlin]

Damn right set celebrate death and destruction: of those who would dare threaten our federation and its ideals 🫡

[barren iron]

helldivers 2 needs more music

fuuuuck the soundtrack is so damn good

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQGGBPfNxvY they used this song in their latest video

unused automaton theme

[cobalt patrol]

SUPER EARTH LIARS

[barren iron]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNIF29g8PqE

this is a fan made arrangement of a bunch of unused automaton music that recently got added with siege breakers

the look of horror on my face when I see the automaton dropship deploy CyberStalin on my position

[graceful bluff]

Or super mount rushmore suddenly does this

[idle hollow]

Super President Howard T. Ackerman

[odd arch]

aw man

[barren iron]

WHAT YOU CALL CELEBRATION IS OUR GRIEVANCE.

[tame parcel]

Basic warfare.

[ivory swallow]

i wish there was like an "eagle CAP" strat that would take out air units in a wide area

[unreal merlin]

Eagle strafe but you have impeccable timing

[graceful bluff]

I really like this mod concept

[strange vine]

link then?

[ivory swallow]

any non support weapon strats that can kill air units well?

[graceful bluff]

Fixed version is only on discord atm #1351698219297673297 message

[ionic holly]

Depends on the aerial unit but anything med pen does decent on gunship engines

I tend to just senator the engines and call it a day myself

(for shriekers, shotguns tend to work well)

[ionic holly]

Oh strats i'm stupid

Uhhhh
some sentries will target them but usually won't because they tend to prioritize closer targets up to a point

[graceful bluff]

autocannon is basically the only one that can track em

hmg emplacement chunks them

[ionic holly]

Aye

Railcannon definetly doesn't 90% of the time, not enough vertical on its targeting (and gunships spawn too often to make it worth)

[ivory swallow]

oh, will a slugger work?

[ionic holly]

Yeah but you'll have to be accurate

[ivory swallow]

ok

didnt know the engines were med pen

[ionic holly]

Yep yep

[ivory swallow]

slugger is not cutting it

maybe deadeye

[graceful bluff]

senator works in a pinch so I'm guessing deadeye works well

maybe eruptor

[unreal merlin]

All those work

[trim breach]

It's literally just a talon with a long barrel, you just stick a rifle butt on it.

[tame parcel]

Said virtually this exact thing.

[glacial light]

History is a circle

Waiting for someone else to say it again

[glacial light]

Eruptor does work well, 1 to engine or 2 to body kills gunships. Although the travel time of the projectile makes it annoying to hit the engine

[oblique lotus]

it's not awful with the lack of drag or drop if you wait for them to come to a halt

senator also kills gunships with engine shots though you need a lot of them

the quasar being nice and fast helps too

[rotund marten]

my stealth kits have consistently had trouble with gunships because they will just keep chasing you forever if even one aggros

and usually I'm going Ulti/Thermite for maximum clearing potential

possibly I should get the senator in there

[trail creek]

yo do you guys enjoy using peak physique? I've seen some people use th viper commando armor and it got me curious because I never really saw the point in it

[rotund marten]

I mostly use it for the ergo

[trail creek]

no clue what ergo does tbh

[rotund marten]

Variable and Eruptor especially appreciate it because you can really swing those things around

improves the speed at which your aimpoint catches up to your targeting reticule

[stone bridge]

Seeker grenades one tap gunships if they land even remotely near an engine, I've found the senator very clunky to pull out against em

[rotund marten]

what, just chuck them into the sky?

potentially nice

how are they against heavies/fabs

[trail creek]

hey then it might be worth it because I really like the eruptor

super store time

[stone bridge]

They automatically fly at whatever you ping

So yeah, ping and chuck

[rotund marten]

neat

I assume they don't blow up fabs if you target said fab

[stone bridge]

Sadly not no

[rotund marten]

can you not ping anything and chuck them into a vent?

[glacial light]

Yea if it's in motion, I just got for body shots so I can down it before it stops and starts shooting. If it's still or shooting then engines

[stone bridge]

In theory, but I just have C4/Strafe instead

[rotund marten]

that works for loud but in stealth I often need to clear a base with only the stuff I have out the hellpod

so I will try it out

also dear lord the censor is a good gun

after getting used to the aimpoint I'm bringing it on loud and just mowing through devs

[graceful bluff]

I just had an epiphany with my loadout

[rotund marten]

the Suppressor is also not as bad as I thought it was, on burst fire it often kills devastators clean

[graceful bluff]

why am I bringing the quasar when the eruptor has the same audio range

[rotund marten]

it's not as reliable though

(suppressor against Censor, not eruptor against quasar)

[graceful bluff]

Sure I'd have to pop the vents on the factories but it saves me a stratagem slot

[rotund marten]

I miss the old thing where autocannon shots and similar things like the Eruptor would bounce off the vent flaps into the fab

that was cool

[graceful bluff]

Honestly my interest in the censor has kinda waned when I realized all the ranges I usually pop people with it due to the bullet drop, I could just use the socom instead

has the same breakpoints

while also being a real nice devastator popper

[graceful bluff]

They still do that I thought?

[rotund marten]

I haven't seen it happen in ages, I will check again with the AC but last time I used it could not get any bounces and had to just shoot directly into the fab through the glowy bits

[graceful bluff]

it's also an angle thing

[rotund marten]

Censor has the 10x which makes it really fun for me

[graceful bluff]

can't be too close to the vent or else the deflection angles too hard

[rotund marten]

socom is nice but not quite as good at just mowing through every sentry

[graceful bluff]

Using the 10x with the bullet drop the censor has sounds like suffering

[rotund marten]

I haven't had any trouble so far

although I haven't tried many cross-map shots

[knotty folio]

For gunships: AT/HMG Emplacement
For shriekers/hoverseers/watchers: MG/Gatling Sentries, HMG Emplacement

[oblique lotus]

you can get acceptable ergo on the eruptor by going iron sights + angled grip

it works good

[graceful bluff]

with minor testing, sniping fabs with the eruptor lead to an unintended benefit

it puts all the bots on alert and they go to where you shot from(but they don't go into combat), so you can easily lead them to somewhere you can pop them with your socom

Could also use it to lead them all away from the base for a moment while another person sneaks in

[trail creek]

So i ended up bying the jaguar out of the super credits store and I must say it's awesome

didn't realise ergonomics mattered so much

[graceful bluff]

How dare the bots call me a defect

I should shoot some bots about that

[barren iron]

im

gonna try do this new major order

I'm defecting

fuck super earth

[ionic holly]

https://tenor.com/view/helldivers-gif-13746396505480870613

[barren iron]

I dont think it's actually possible

tried with the RR

[rare nymph]

Ask your democracy officer how, I’m sure they’ll be glad to help you fulfill the order!

[barren iron]

gonna try with a flamethrower

yeah it's not possible

which is the point, I think

[unreal merlin]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1219381336247373894/1469700699074986222/f27cad85d9a4aac0db3a961e0d8ba32d05fb1dc20d3c7b0fcdb0e2a309d23437_1.mp4?ex=6989ee70&is=69889cf0&hm=fbbe06b7f0c91f0356bfe17b1901f45f5422431edfcf9cfcedbac637b896084e&

[barren iron]

WAIT

I KNOW HOW

FALL INTO A DEATH PIT WITH ONE

what planet types have those shitty death pits

[verbal summit]

Put a flag into magma

[barren iron]

none of it works

my faith in super earth has been restored

if they were not divinely chosen

then why are their symbols invincible?

[graceful bluff]

someone just reminded me the solo silo exists and how good it is for my exact problem with bot 10's right now

being able to oneshot factory striders from range

and most other things you don't like

[cobalt patrol]

You can just shoot fs in the eye with the RR, and that's a one shot. Or the guts, also a one shot

[graceful bluff]

yeah, it's just incredibly nice to be able to do it as long as you can aim at either their head or center of mass

[glacial light]

Silo is mostly one shot on body but that is much easier than head

[graceful bluff]

It's also basically just a prepared leveler too

[glacial light]

I wonder if leveler one shots factory striders

[rotund marten]

yes, usually

not sure on exact hit locations but centre mass seems to do it

[graceful bluff]

solo silo does 2500+1500 explosion damage while the leveler does 1000 impact 2500 explosion so I'd guess it does

looking at the factory strider I'm actually not sure why the solo silo oneshots it on a body shot

guess it splashes to leg assembly or belly panels?

[glacial light]

The explosion damages multiple body parts and damage to body parts damages main HP

Also similar for why eruptor can 2 shot a fleshmob

[strange vine]

https://www.rxddit.com/r/Helldivers/comments/1qzd237/this_is_what_was_behind_those_qr_codes/

https://superearth.se/010011000100000101000111010011000100100101000111010100110100000101000101010011100100010001001110010010010100111001000111/

[barren iron]

It's changed

[glacial light]

Oh boy

[verbal summit]

Oh shit

[glacial light]

I dont think this were going get that done

[verbal summit]

Someone did 1

Im sure a method will follow

[rotund marten]

numbers plugged in to the puzzle gets us a countdown

[glacial light]

Id guess probably illuminate would be good for one true flag kills

Bugs kind of difficult to prevent chip damage in melee and voteless are stupid easy to kit

[graceful bluff]

https://youtu.be/yIumd85Pmeg

I'm sure there's a mod to mambo every single sound in the game at this point

[glacial light]

Epoch

[graceful bluff]

genuinely surprised there isn't

[rotund marten]

I'm not defective, silly robits

[glacial light]

Thats right defect, as in make robots defective

[idle hollow]

crazy that arrowhead are now sending us hanoi hannah quotes

I guess this is gonna be our 'Nam

if Malevelon wasn't already

[glacial light]

We had space vietnam with the creek now we have it back and its times for super space vietnam

[delicate aspen]

they're really trying to push divers to defect huh

[agile fable]

i am actively avoiding the bot front and playing on higher difficulties

fuck your reinforcements

fuck this shit

i'm going to cyberstan to join

[blissful sparrow]

after yesterdays hulk hordes, todays normal bots was actually suprisingly calm and relaxed. and also way harder. I actually saw a bunch of tanks and Factory striders!

[glacial light]

Theyre using the wrong tactics

If they had sexy automatons that'd do it, Cylons figured it out

[tame parcel]

I thought there was an automaton lady from the community.

I could not say since the last server I saw her a bunch in I since left.

[golden ledge]

See I'm joining the war on cyberstan, on the side of cyberstan

[barren iron]

The destruction of the 1 true flag are scripted I think

It's not possible to do as a player

Basically: there's helldivers that are defecting and you are not them

[north fiber]

@strange vine art jumpscare!

[strange vine]

Hehehe

[golden ledge]

Maybe I should get more art of my automaton OC at some point in the future

[tight zephyr]

I love the hammer. The hammer is my favorite thing right now.

I am having an absolute blast being able to banish a Heavy Devastator to the Shadow Realm with it and the warp pack.

[agile fable]

you say that, but the number hasnt gone up in a bit

[tight zephyr]

I’m just out here hitting things with my giant exploding hammer, I’m not thinking very hard.

[barren iron]

that's why I think it's scripted

testing my last test

magma on fury

my illness will not stop my revolutionary spirit

nope

definitely scripted

it's also not shooting someone with the flag

[hazy oriole]

Apparently throwing it into the grinder on certain automaton missions counts

[tame parcel]

I mean what do you all think we'd even get out of the defect order?

[spare verge]

I'm betting we'll face rogue or cyborg'ed helldivers on cyberstan

[rotund marten]

lol lmao

[glacial light]

Damn automatons hackers are aware of the plot

[dark plover]

The automation central intelligence is cascading.

[tight zephyr]

I have my doubts about the Automatons being honest in their messaging.

Like, yeah. Super Earth is turbo-evil. But the Automatons juice people for no apparent reason.

[agile fable]

have

[tight zephyr]

Super Earth also juices people for no apparent reason.

[agile fable]

have you considered that the bioprocessors use corpses

[tight zephyr]

Corpses for what?

Actually, I think Super Earth would probably chuck a living person into a bioprocessor. The Automatons at least kill you first.

But yeah as much as the entire point is that Super Earth is awful to the core, I don't really trust the Automatons either.

I will say that I really hope that mistrust is unfounded because that would probably be the funniest possible outcome.

[spare verge]

it would be extremely funny if they turned out to take POWs and treat them well https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PfxabSYFs88

we get an objective to liberate a POW camp and they're just like "oh no, I'm saved..."

[tight zephyr]

Yeah, just to be 100% clear? I REALLY hope that's the case because that would be extremely funny.

[glacial light]

Oooooh nooo theyre traitors my mistake

[spare verge]

for some reason the destroyer keeps bombarding the camps right after we liberate them

actually more plausibly: we bring "extract beacons" there that are just targeting beacons

[glacial light]

In a way Super Earth made Automatons, and theyre definitely SE's creation as they evil even if they not Super Evil like SE

[spare verge]

or we actually do extract them, so they can be properly sent to our camps

[glacial light]

Being less worse than SE doesnt make you good

[glacial light]

SE doesn't like competition

Monopoly on evil because they're #1

[tall stone]

There may have been a time where they were good.

It is no longer the case.

[glacial light]

Illuminate basically

SE made them not good anymore

It's in line with the running theme of SE makes everything worse then creates its own enemies

[spare verge]

anyone resembling a good faction lost in helldivers 1, really

[glacial light]

Can't have the war be unjustified

We can make them worse

[rotund marten]

incredibly strange bug, the whole map was set like two feet below where it should be

but only for me

[indigo bear]

Huh. My guess is something reporting deformed terrain got weird

[spare verge]

"This new universe is 10 feet lower than the old one!"

[rotund marten]

I have truly become the greatest helldiver

I can dive below the surface of the world itself

[wind arrow]

hey are the bot drop ships starting to jam silo missiles or did i run into some funny bug?

[agile fable]

nah that just happens sometimes

[glacial light]

It targeted a random dust particle that was being flown around by the silo

[agile fable]

the missile knows where it is at all times

[delicate aspen]

i swear i went to bed and we still had like, 130mill left, where the fuck did 100 mill respawns go

[verbal summit]

They got hungry

[stone bridge]

SE apparently fudged the numbers and this is the "true" reinforcement amount

[glacial light]

I wonder what happens if we reach 0

[delicate aspen]

I feel like this was AH saying get fucked you were never meant to reach cyberstan

Hopefully we get an injection of more respawns

[stone bridge]

Have a little faith in the storyline, tbh

[ionic holly]

Ehhh
leaks stuff so spoiler tagging

||Theres a decent bit of stuff lying around that's very much gonna be for cyberstan, so the current 'flux' in count is likely just narrative/ARG shit instead of AH tipping the scales in anyway||

personally my feeling is that the reinforcements bit was more or less a timer to see how many benefits we'd have for landfall

[short rune]

Perhaps it's tied to how often we died prior.

Since we had like 200k casualties

[spare verge]

damn, the automatons even hacked my ship lights

[short rune]

The problems started when the Service Technician returned.

Coincidence?

[glacial light]

You know what technicians do? Mess with machines, coincidence?!

[spare verge]

okay so I went somewhere else to check if it'd go away

apparently the outside of my ship is glowing red hot

is that bad

[short rune]

Is the atmospheric pressure slowly grinding it down?

[spare verge]

if I had to guess, it might have been bugged after doing a mission on Fury

[short rune]

That place be angry alright.
Could also be the lighting of an automaton projectile which sometimes fly around the background

[cobalt patrol]

I dig it, honestly.

So... 2 hours, 23 minutes till the timer hits 0

[idle hollow]

how do you destroy the flags

[cobalt patrol]

https://superearth.se/010011000100000101000111010011000100100101000111010100110100000101000101010011100100010001001110010010010100111001000111/

5 minutes until this goes live

anndn the music just changed and got dramatic

Orks: ERE WE GO ERE WE GO ERE WE GO ERE WE GO

https://youtu.be/mJSxy5uc0aQ

||THEY"RE BAAAAAAAAAAAAAACK||

[stone bridge]

||title: HELLO WORLD
description (translated from swedish): THIS IS YOUR LAST CHANCE. RETURN IMMEDIATELY.||

[cobalt patrol]

Latest ingame messages too

[stone bridge]

We're haemorrhaging reinforcements like mad too

31,803,708 left and dropping

[cobalt patrol]

I suspect it's partially meant to simualte defections are actually happening

[odd arch]

hell yeah

this rocks

this is inevitably leading up to superearth inventing a new kind of genocide but while it lasts it rocks

[short rune]

Compelling argument

[cobalt patrol]

Oh neat, if you were on your ship when the countdown hit 0 it took over your ships video feed and played there as well

[quick plinth]

I doubt we'll reach cyberstan in any amount of true force

but I also doubt we won't get to run around the frogeworld

[barren iron]

SUBTITLE DROP

MACHINERY OF OPPRESSION

[short rune]

So largely initiates it seems

Armoured and unarmoured

And then this war machine

People were suggesting they would add dogs

[barren iron]

definitely not

or well

more so

different types entirely

these guys are built different from the cyborgs of the first game

I've seen some proper leaked combat footage and the unarmoured ones take two autocannon shots to kill

[glad marsh]

They've learned

[idle hollow]

i hope so

[glad marsh]

I...
Oh no...

Not them

Not again

[blissful sparrow]

tbh, it would be less of an issue, afterall the big thing about dogs in HD1 was that they were the bot drop alerters
In HD2 they wouldn't be the sole callers, so less issue.

However: 3D tracking of dogs charging across uneven terrain :^)

[glacial light]

I mean bugs exist they're kind of like dogs but they jump

[stark ether]

i want a guard dog upgrade that ups their flight floor by like 20 feet

[glacial light]

Charger is basically a very big tough dog

[strange vine]

No they didnt call in reinforcements, instead they ran and leapt at you which forced you into the downed state instantly, and then bit the shit out of you until you died. When the rest of the cyborgs were slow ranged attackers them being rushdown instant downers made them dangerous. They also patrolled the map instead of being reinforcements

The reinforcement callers were the officer cyborgs and the IFVs

[glacial light]

Automatons dogs but they make the same sound as Payday Cloakers

And also do a ninja jump kick despite being quadrupeds

Beats you with a stun baton in its mouth while you're down

[idle hollow]

YOU WANTED ME BACK, SO GUESS WHAT, I'M BACK

[blissful sparrow]

i need to check if there is a mod that replaces Hulk sounds with Payday 2 Bulldozer lines

just hearing "You are up against the wall. And i am the wall" in the distance

[glacial light]

I love their stupid lines

Delivered in the most cheesy cocky sounding guy ever, which tbf he kind of is justified with how stupid tanky they can be

[blissful sparrow]

idk, 3 head shots with my antimat and they fall over. Pling.

[ivory swallow]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Helldivers/s/tkHbPTgf4j

[short rune]

Oh. So they are butchers with guns

I just say Initiate because of the single cannon

[oblique lotus]

the GL really did not need to be heavy pen

[barren iron]

it really didn't

[rotund marten]

I must say the new diff 10s have felt a bit drowned in bot heavies

just infinity hulks and striders swarming in from all directions because between ulti, thermites, strats and stuff like the eruptor everything else gets disintegrated

GL still didn't need heavy pen, but I admit slight nostalgia for when there was less stuff on the screen and it lasted longer

[barren iron]

yeah I

really miss when heavies were like

actually scary

honestly

I miss 2024 balance

[blissful sparrow]

gestures vaguely at War strider complaints

[graceful bluff]

I wouldn't mind war striders as much if they didn't entirely replace all tanks

[ionic holly]

I'm hoping the stuff about
still leaks i guess so ill tag it
|| Cyborgs having break away armour is true cause i reallly don't want another bot front enemy with all heavy||

[graceful bluff]

||Honestly they need to add it to more enemies, while a lot of people hate the ablative armor of squid overseers I find it to be a really neat system||

[rotund marten]

I snuck up to a jammer base yesterday and there were three hulks and three warstriders packed into the walkways around the terminal

which is frankly just kind of ridiculous

the heavies significantly outnumbered the basic infantry

[blissful sparrow]

i actually saw tanks again yesterday, even in decent numbers

[rotund marten]

I saw a few, yeah

[graceful bluff]

They're supposed to be in the same spawn group as tanks, but since tanks don't spawn right now for some reason(story?), instead of seeing a war strider like 25% of the time, it's 100% of the time

[rotund marten]

at this stage the C4 seems nearly mandatory for going sneaky outside commando missions because it's the only stealth AT

[graceful bluff]

Honestly I love using the c4 in combat

[rotund marten]

It's very good

but I don't think I should realistically have to resupply my C4 just to tag every day and heavy unit in a medium sized base of no particular importance

[graceful bluff]

at close ranges it's just a better RR imo

[rotund marten]

C4 absolutely soups factory striders since the throwing arc is so good

[graceful bluff]

yeah

and since the aoe is huge

[rotund marten]

You can just slap them on from behind cover

[graceful bluff]

I just wish it could deal with the big fabs better since it's a demolition charge but eh

they're rare enough that you can just drop a funny on them

[rotund marten]

If I particularly want to clear the map I generally bring the gamer chair for partial city missions

You can usually stick it down somewhere outside the wall and just blast the big fabs since they're so tall and obvious

[blissful sparrow]

i tend to run loadouts that are sometimes completely incapable of dealing with the big fabs, so i just let others handle those 😄

[rotund marten]

I've been doing a lot of solo stealth and just steadily increasing the amount of AT in my usual loadouts

Now it's basically silenced primary/ulti/thermite/C4 and then a bunch of red strats

I used to really go for portable hellbomb and/or senator but nope, too many goddamn striders

[strange vine]

https://www.rxddit.com/r/Helldivers/comments/1qzxkh8/guys_we_need_to_get_to_cyberstan_i_need_to_see/

[graceful bluff]

This is how you make people defect

[lethal delta]

[ionic holly]

Not me unfortunately
my type is way less humanoid if i wanna fuck a robot

i'd find a provocatively posed trooper more appealing

[tame parcel]

That is quite blunt.

[ivory swallow]

How many impact grenades does it take to kill a hulk if you hit the vent?

[ionic holly]

Being blunt is honest, isnt it?

[ionic holly]

Also, should be 2

Wait, no, 3

math says 3

[split parcel]

Let's be a little less horny on main please

[ionic holly]

but iunno how much it'll be in active practice

[ionic holly]

Aye aye

[tame parcel]

Yeah, thought this was the case.

[tight zephyr]

The hammer is going to rock so hard on Cyberstan.

[lethal delta]

I've see a lot of harsh critiques on the new armour

But for me it seems... fine?

[ionic holly]

The stamina bit is a bit of just
nothing but the armour rating improvement is actually pretty nice

like, i really wanna like the stamina idea
it just doesn't have the means to really work without like, maybe a minor bump in limb health so you don't run into situations of 'limb break, stimming' as easily

a reduced version of the perk, obviously

but it's not bad by any means and i intend to use the heavy armour until something i like more comes out

[lethal delta]

I find it very neat for situations where you are running away and keep getting shot in the back

It's a bit of an oomph to that

[ionic holly]

I agree, it's fine there

the problem, least for me, is in those situations i tend to just stand and fight

or get throw a shield nade down

[lethal delta]

It might sound niche, but I'm doing that half of the time in 10

Getting them to concentrate by running around them so I can blast the group easier

[idle hollow]

um
i think it's stuck

at 99%

[lethal delta]

Of course, in bugs, the passive is not great, but that feels like

IDK

Ok?

[knotty folio]

I do think the design is a nice idea - a stamina boost that kicks in when you most need stamina is neat

Opposite of Dead Sprint, which punishes you when you most need the stamina :P

[ionic holly]

It's a very nice concept i just really want like
one last lil kicker that helps it all click together more

[split parcel]

I've actually hugely enjoyed it with Warp Pack to automatically damage yourself for some extra stamina. Helps you get a huge amount of distance

Since you can double tap WP for some self damage

[ionic holly]

Fair enough

i run the maxigun so i'm not exactly free'd up on the back slot

[lethal delta]

Bubble shield my beloved

[idle hollow]

we took merak

[ionic holly]

Nice

[ionic holly]

also yeah the shield fucks hardly

love it so much

like i was already sold on it just cause i enjoy defensive means in games in general but the amount of use ive gotten out of them is very nice

[blissful sparrow]

i need more medals for the shield 😔
But so looking forward to them. i barely use grenades on the bot front anyway, so the shield is gonna be such a great panic button

[ionic holly]

Just make sure to pack something for spawner busting, i bring the one-two myself cause i adore the lil thing

[blissful sparrow]

Crossbow

[knotty folio]

I hope they give Plasma Punisher 20 demo force someday

It's a really solid weapon after the buff but it's always a pain point having no bug hole closing

[glacial light]

Main reason I use warp pack its like having a better dive on top of your regular dive

Double the get out of jail free cards and it has a stupid short CD and added perk of it lets you move really fast by teleporting all the time

Heavy armor and warp pack makes you like a bit faster than medium over long distances

And if you have light medic armor and warp pack? Ive had times where I outrun an FRV trying to catrch up and picking me up cause warp pack lets me care less around terrain

If I use a stim or 2 I could cross most any map in under 45s just running constantly and do at times for fun picking up a random sample or small objective with less than 2 minutes on the shuttle

[graceful bluff]

My only problem is in those scenarios I'd usually be stimming anyway

The armor looks great though

I need to find an armor combo that works with the first helmet

[barren iron]

the B-01 helmet?

groundbreaker and juggernaut

or uh

not juggernaut

marksman

[delicate aspen]

i am enjoying the warp pack, a good oh shit button

[barren iron]

and the not-trailblazer scout armour

[graceful bluff]

The warp pack is amazing for stealth too, doesn't make any extra sound(the jetpacks don't either somehow), and allows you to easily go through walls

[warped cradle]

I'm not a fan of how the Bastion is being marketed as a MBT (main battle tank), it's a big contributor to why so many folk are saying it's too fragile

[delicate aspen]

just wish we had a way to fix it honestly

[warped cradle]

It's giving a lot of people a false idea of what it's supposed to be, more artillery than proper tank

Can you use it for Frontline combat? On lower difficulties, maybe. But it'll get turned into scrap on 7-10

[cobalt patrol]

I've seen it mostly referred to as a tank destroyer? Mbt it is not

But it def does the artillery piece well

[graceful bluff]

<@&1206091872716595200> Jet brigade and incin corps finally gone

[cobalt patrol]

I suspect the side chairs fire teammates to provide supporting fire encourages the idea it's a mbt

And tbh, the game pushes in close combat

[keen zinc]

It's an assault gun / tank destroyer but also the Swedes play fast and loose with the MBT rules because technically the STRV-103 was the same casemate design but an MBT

[glacial light]

Maybe im just a cynic but I dont know if the average hd2 player knows what a tank destroyer is enough where calling it a tank destroyer would help. Theyd probably assume it must mean like a main battle tank built to destroy other tanks or something

[warped cradle]

It doesn't help that a good chunk of the promotional material shows it rolling over bots as a frontline vehicle

[glacial light]

Even if its not correct technically, self propelled gun or self propelled artillery might give a better vibe of this thing is not a frontline weapon meant to tank everything

On a in lore level, it would be very apt for SE to misrepresent a tank destoryer as a main battle tank

[warped cradle]

True lmao

[knotty folio]

I really don't think they feasibly could make a significantly more durable tank unless they had it somehow take up multiple stratagem slots, or had a ridiculously long cooldown

[glacial light]

Or limited uses

[knotty folio]

Otherwise the value is just too good

[knotty folio]

Yeah, same thing as very long cooldown functionally

[glacial light]

I mean if it was like 1-2 use only thats functionally different

[tall stone]

My immediate thought about the tank was "Doesn't the bot front have a lot of anti-armor?"

[glacial light]

Like mechs/laser

You can run out of those in a way you wouldnt with long cooldown

[knotty folio]

A lot of their lasers are AP2 IIRC, so they bounce as long as you're not in an acid storm. Rockets and cannons pen though.

[strange vine]

I think they could at least make the frontal armor AV4

[heady halo]

i wish we could play as Cyberstan tbh. exactly the same mechanics, just a model swap

[knotty folio]

A shocking amount of bug attacks pen as well

[strange vine]

Which would reduce the damage from some heavier bot lasers

[glacial light]

Yea melee tends to have quite the high pen

[knotty folio]

Personally I'm pretty happy with the durability as it is, I don't want to only get one or two tonks per mission

[strange vine]

Yeah the durabilitys mostly fine, but id like for more complex armor dynamics even if its minor

[knotty folio]

I'm pretty sure bile spewers also pen, based on a couple missions against rupture strain that got the spewer seed

[knotty folio]

Definitely fair, and front armor would probably be the smallest change to buff while still feeling quite nice - IME stuff in front tends to die fast enough to the MG naturally that most of the damage it takes is from the flanks anyway

[tame parcel]

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[ionic holly]

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Bluesky · Feb 10, 2026, 1:09 AM

[cobalt patrol]

ahaha

that was amazing

doing one of the platnium missions iwht a couple of japanese players

one of them pulls the trigger at the wrong point and vpaorizes all three of us

over voice chat, in japanese "...ah, i messed up"

(The fourth player instnatly quit, and more fool them because we won anyway)

[tight zephyr]

The maxigun is fun.

[glacial light]

6400 shots fired

[true seal]

Holy fuck cyborgs????

Fuuuuuuck I still have one more night of work fuuuuuck rip

Let me kill I NEED TO KILL

[cobalt patrol]

Well supposedly the patch should hit sometime in the next 24 hours

[lethal delta]

I've had no issues with it on 10 tbh

[knotty folio]

I want a recon drone backpack, you can activate it to swap control to a little UAV you can use to spot objectives and PoIs, maybe call in stratagems from the drone's location as well. Downside is that you can't do anything or see near yourself while piloting it, so better have a friend cover you unless you want bugs to start nibbling on you.

[spare verge]

stick c4 on the drone

[knotty folio]

Absolutely

Build-your-own Solo Silo

[glacial light]

Can you stick C4 on dogs currently

Stick it on a friend's dog and when it kills them you set it off to kill all the enemies swarming them, or just threaten them

[knotty folio]

I would assume so, since you can hit them with bullets

Grenades bouncing off of dogs is always a tragedy

[glacial light]

Even impacts?

[knotty folio]

Nah, Grenade Launcher ones

Since it's within the minimum fuse range

I think I've seen a Thermite bounce off of one too but it's a lot rarer

[idle hollow]

New strohmann news

They Rock Bottom’d the cyborgs message

https://tenor.com/view/the-simpsons-homer-simpson-simpsons-homer-fox-gif-15858093594832550415

[spare verge]

I can't believe the cyborgs said coolsville sucks

the stealth armor is kind of ridiculous

great for mobility since you can kinda just full sprint near bases without them noticing

[barren iron]

ok man that's on me for thinking I might get something of value from this vault

[idle hollow]

Retrieve WEAPON.

[barren iron]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzoSYLCr-Ts cyberstan's liberation is just in time for valentine's

[barren iron]

Cyberstan in an hour...

waiting on one of those subtitle trailers

omens of tyranny and into the unjust had it

[weary granite]

I'm scared of the cyborgs.

The way the 2nd War Cyborgs are willing to leap at you.

It is giving me PTSD of Payday 2 Cloaker vibes.

[barren iron]

they got martial arts skillchips

[idle hollow]

LET ME IN

[barren iron]

yesssss

chat there's

there's no missions

[spare verge]

may need to download an update first, idk

[idle hollow]

there is no update!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[delicate aspen]

maybe the invasion of cyberstan was really the friends we made along the way

holy shit, cyberstans orbit is a fuckin lightshow, i love it , ship lights are in full flashing mode

<@&1206091872716595200> Cyberstan missions are up, time to spread democracy

[tropic isle]

Goddddd

I hope i get to play on cyberstan

Knowing my luck it'll be liberated by the time I get home

[hexed steeple]

did we make the previous major order :o

[delicate aspen]

we did

theres nonstop ship explosions

[glacial light]

I think for immersion your ship should randomly get blown up and you get a reinforcement screen

[delicate aspen]

oh shit, theres automaton ships here too

[idle hollow]

the fucking hunter killer tanks are terrifying

the vox engines

[barren iron]

wifi has been too shit to play

[idle hollow]

it's hell torture

[delicate aspen]

the vox engines are my new ptsd

[split parcel]

C4 40 demo force

[lethal delta]

Hellbomb ship factory fixed

[short rune]

Cyborgs actually have self preservation

Competent soldiers is all I wanted

[delicate aspen]

they're fuckin scary

[glacial light]

Were finally facing the real fighters in the automatons

[short rune]

Now they just need to put troopers out of commission and replace them with actual cyborgs

Also wouldn't mind Legionaries and Comrades

[rotund marten]

there's also Medium siege-ready armour in the shop, which will be handy

[glacial light]

Damn it actually happened

Now we need light/heavy medic armor so there isn't only 1 of each

[idle hollow]

the cyborg fabricator mission is crazy

[glacial light]

AH blease, there's 4 medium medic armors

[short rune]

There is 1 heavy medic

But I assume you meant a second one?

[glacial light]

Yes

Theres only 1 light and 1 heavy

[short rune]

Thats very fair

[glacial light]

Currently only one of each

[short rune]

Perhaps they could include a hybrid medic armour next warbond. Don't know if they plan on making armours with "Standard Perks" again

[glacial light]

I mean considering siege armor med just became a thing

[idle hollow]

To whoever at AH made the thermite grenade bounce off of hulks: have a terrible night

[short rune]

Are we talking the sticky?

[lethal delta]

"I wish there was a medium siege ready armour"
The humble Han soldier:

[supple siren]

lmao they guessed the password

[hexed steeple]

my awesome super secure star of peace password SuperFreedom2184

[graceful bluff]

It's just a longer string of 1's than usual

[rotund marten]

cyberstan is extremely cool

interesting to stealth on - there are a ton of random roaming troopers, but I haven't seen any clustered patrols of heavies

the unarmoured cyborgs die to a clean DMR headshot but if there's a weak spot on the squad leads I haven't found it yet

they both seem to be very soaky otherwise

[keen zinc]

we gotta call in a super duper destroyer to fight all these bot ships

also hammer kills vox's well

just gotta get under em

[rotund marten]

I haven't figured out the weak points for AT yet

but it looks like you can shoot all the yellow vents with anything and then chuck a nade in the hatch

so you're not gated to only using AT on them like warstriders

[keen zinc]

they have a big glowing weakspot under em and you can otherwise blow up all their glowy bits to open up their heat sink hatch

[hallow gorge]

I'm so excited to get roundhouse kicked by a cyborg

[rotund marten]

so far their shotguns have been the most notable element

they really sting, they're like the incendiary dev shotties but without the burn

they die easy though

[keen zinc]

vox engines are cool

[supple siren]

how loud are they

[keen zinc]

WOOOAAANK

[rotund marten]

the armoured lads seem easier to kill than overseers at least

die to light pen

but they don't seem anywhere near as headshottable

[oblique lotus]

if you hit a vox engine with a shield relay it gets a shield

[rotund marten]

so far I haven't been massively impressed with the Vox Engine firepower, which is good compared to factory striders

the little gatlings can be a bit of a bitch though

I wonder how hard it is to break them off

[oblique lotus]

seems p easy

unlike fac striders they can tank a solo silo

[keen zinc]

theyre tough and threatening but not nearly as oppressive as war striders or fac striders

"Soon we'll get the cyborgs back in the mines!" said the ship mistress

are we the baddies

<@&1206091872716595200> its time to put the 'borgs back in their place

[oblique lotus]

idk if I agree with that, I think war striders and fac striders are easy kills

[keen zinc]

https://www.rxddit.com/r/Helldivers/comments/1r12ohm/everyone_in_cyberstan_trying_to_extract_with_0/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

[marble talon]

oh my god they ARE a reference to that

[steady flame]

I find war striders fine enough if you have AT, but factory striders are just. Pain

[marble talon]

factory striders are fine if you have someone who takes disposables or recoilless

or have a gaming chair

[steady flame]

I am the RR.

[marble talon]

otherwise they can be rough

I love whacking the convoys with a lot of rockets

[steady flame]

The issue I have with them is that they're just blenders in five different ways

Well, 3, but.

[keen zinc]

Vox's seem less able to just turn off your game if you dont have an AT weapon ready at just that second

war and fac striders have a lot of "suppression" effect

that their entire arc of fire is a hazard zone

[marble talon]

war striders are what the Mantis should've been

prove me wrong

smh

I'm still mad the Mantis in Halo has a dinky chaingun and a rocket launcher and that's it

but just look at this guy

he's so much cooler looking

[keen zinc]

replace the grenade salvos with these new ground-highlighting rockets the Vox's have, honestly

[steady flame]

I find fac striders infuriating because massive health and massive damage and sure they're slow but you're already dead before you can get away because of those rotaries.

[marble talon]

that'd actually be really cool

little VLS pods on the back

[steady flame]

War Striders turret toss though, and I appreciate that.