Helldivers 2: For Managed Democracy!

[marble talon]

rocket sentry is ok

and OPS?

remind me?

[ivory swallow]

Orbital precision strike

Although that might suffer from the same issue as thermites

Rail?

[marble talon]

railcannon is spensive

you use that when there's a heavy you don't want to even bother with

OPS is... yeah it works, just need good precision

prefer 500kg usually myself

[odd arch]

rocket sentry is really solid though I don't like entrusting AT duty to AI

[agile fable]

it makes me angry cause i want to help but i cant without getting pummeled into a fine diver paste

[marble talon]

eruptor is 2 tap to a Hulk head iirc

[unreal merlin]

Rocket Sentry is effective but stops working if anything gets too close to it (minimum firing distance) and cannot be trusted to actually prioritize the heaviest threats (it WILL shoot berserkers instead of the six hulks)

[odd arch]

eagle rocket strike is pretty good now though not like, a premiere nut cracker

[marble talon]

you can't 1tap due to Durable

and due to the main bullet being the only thing that's Heavy pen

shrapnel and explosion can only damage up to Medium

that is over half of your damage missing against a Heavy target

so you NEED weakspot hits

otherwise you just won't ever kill it

apparently the Senator is heavy pen now but that feels very meme

Ultimatium is the anti-heavy sidearm tho

it is a pocket nuke after all

is that like 5 Hulks and 2 War Striders?

ehhh

Ultimatium

[odd arch]

go my beetle

[marble talon]

anti-tank minefield can also put in very good work

especially against bugs

just drop it on the bug breach and killbox them

[odd arch]

note that the

I suddenly forgot the enemy's name

bile stickbugs

[marble talon]

bile titans

[odd arch]

they have a very low chance to actually step on a mine

and it does A Damage to them I guess

do you think they evolved stilts specifically to walk over mines

[marble talon]

idk

but yeah bile titans is for other AT weapons

generally you don't have good AT options at your disposal in a primary slot

you need support weapons or call ins

i'm personally a big fan of the 500kg

[odd arch]

every so often I do a full eagle run where I mooch support weapons and backpacks off the team

in return I am air raider EDF

[marble talon]

the Eagle Airstrike is also effective against clusters of enemies, even tanky ones

[stone bridge]

Eagle Strafe is where it's at

[ivory swallow]

is there anything particualry good to use with the ammo backpack? i like the idea of being a support

[odd arch]

ideally a full loadout of weapons that are strong but constrained by ammo

ultimatum is the obvious one but I have to think about the other slots

grenade launcher if you want to be the sole horde clear and stagger provider

also for a full support loadout imo the stim pistol and supply pack have a bit of an anti-synergy

stim pistol doesn't run out of ammo particularly fast and people will refill their own stims either way every time they grab a box from you

[marble talon]

I like to bring a Stalwart and a Liberator, for long sustained

either that a Quasar and a Liberator

and I just refill my teammates

particularly anyone running recoilless or autocannon

[warped cradle]

I'm so addicted to the chainsaw, here's what I've been running lately (for bots mostly)

[odd arch]

oh also refilling yourself lets you be very liberal with grenades

gas nades my beloved, and a very strong support option

[strange vine]

smoke and gas really helps with rapid acquisition

as does remembering you want to be doing the objective

you really need at least 1 or 2 people running around moving hte platinum

[odd arch]

I hope they give orbital smoke barrage a lil sumfin

smoke grenades are always preferable and eagle smoke strike is only able to compete a little because of its bunch of uses with a shared rearm time

like in no world does more smoke beat some smoke more often

[oblique lotus]

I find getting the headshot on hulks to be a bit of a crapshoot because of the eruptor's velocity and hulk movement. I prefer the Senator because it might take 3 shots but its a lot more error tolerant and easier

[glacial light]

Warp Pack and Eruptor

Just teleport behind them then hipfire into a vent

Nothing personnel

[verbal summit]

Ping me if people feel like playing divers

I meant sc grinding actualyl

[stark ether]

eagle strafe my beloved

[glacial light]

Strafe being anti tank is wild

On demand kill a line of heavies

Bane of hulks especially in a queue

[lethal delta]

I heard they nerfed the Jackal?

Is that true?

I don't see any changes in the statpage

[stone bridge]

indirectly and barely, it takes like one more shot to set most stuff on fire now

[lethal delta]

Ah, the fire stuff

I thought it was a more direct nerf

Thatp`s w/e

[stone bridge]

never listen to the reddit

[lethal delta]

They seemed to think it was fine

[strange vine]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1209568164141207552/1447590656334626947/G7lub-TW0AAIPVw.jpg?ex=69382d5b&is=6936dbdb&hm=fe03ee29d25b8bdbec308e51de54115f69492b90626ab110d17c9857859958ac&

[rapid plover]

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[blissful sparrow]

Blue haired buzzcut butch is explicitely freedom compliant

[glacial light]

The ultimate enemy of democracy the aggressively directionless nonunified ambivalent.

[glacial light]

Up to 2mm, 3mm is socialism

But also I didn't realize until now that indeed every character we see without a helmet is bald or buzz cut

I forgot what the official art of eagle one looks like but she should be buzzcut/bald too

[tall stone]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-kevin-malone-gif-24615103

Behold, a dissident!

[tight zephyr]

My hair is shoulder-length, but it's blond so I'm probably fine.

[oblique lotus]

oh wow these are hard

[normal juniper]

plat bars?

[oblique lotus]

yeah

[normal juniper]

yeah

[oblique lotus]

cleared a 7 but it reminds me of old civvie evac

[agile fable]

yyyyyup

[oblique lotus]

I like the difficulty spike tho

[normal juniper]

a lot of ppl do

[agile fable]

i play solo and i don't

[normal juniper]

personally i'd prefer to opt into this instead of potentially kiboshing a mission chain bc you've hit the brick wall of fuck

[oblique lotus]

eh I'm fine w/ it, there are other planets

[normal juniper]

i mean sure, it's what i did

i just think the presented difficulty should be consistent. if the planet's gonna bust my balls i'd rather they lead w that instead of spiking into frustration when it's otherwise pretty lax/normal

[odd arch]

hey, at least it's not a hive lord launching the mobile drill into the stratosphere,

[normal juniper]

it could, in fact, be worse, yes

[knotty folio]

The unfortunate part is since they (allegedly) can't increase the difficulty of standard missions in interesting ways due to engine limitations, making the difficulty consistent means removing the option for the extremely hard plat missions.
They could add it as its own single-mission operation or the like, but they won't.

[verbal summit]

Like this?

[verbal summit]

.

[odd arch]

we do a little trolling

[verbal summit]

Speaking of trolling

MAD strategy

[blazing echo]

completely baseless biased opinion

but I submit the Eruptor for the list of 'most iconic scifi weapons'

[glacial light]

I agree

Bolt Action Sniper Frag Grenade Launcher is a pretty unique weapon

[odd arch]

it exists

[blazing echo]

this is, again, a super 'guy who has only seen shrek getting some real shrek vibes from this one' take but like

[blissful sparrow]

tbh i think the togglelock auto cannon is infinitely more iconic than the eruptor

[blazing echo]

holding the high ground supporting two different pushes on objectives by blowing devastators out from behind their shields for your teammates with lighter weapons and anti-tank weapons is peak 'helldivers feelings' for me

[glacial light]

I mean quite a few iconic scifi weapons existed irl like Stargate p90

[odd arch]

yeah but I feel a sniper grenade launcher actually existing warrants mentioning

[blazing echo]

fuck that's true though

as much as I adore the eruptor

[glacial light]

Autocannon is the poster child of AH

[blazing echo]

the AC slaps, and it probably edges it out

AH?

[odd arch]

AH stands for autohannon

arrowhead, the studio

[blazing echo]

...

derp

yes

[odd arch]

AC would be even more iconic if buddy reloads were less strangely implemented

there would be spontaneous AC gun teams every match

[blazing echo]

I feel silly sometimes having the original creeker cape and being only level 32 but the game hits me like Minecraft Phases e.e

my birthday is Malevelon Creek Memorial Day

I am john helldiver

[odd arch]

I'm quite fond of the review bomb cape

[blissful sparrow]

i have done support reload auto cannon on full auto with 2 other players running resupply backpacks to stock up the loader in the past
Ages ago, but the bot onrush did not make it up the ramp to the extraction

[odd arch]

it looks good and is a sort of a taunt to wear

[blazing echo]

the review bomb cape was the thing that gave me hope for the game again, not even gonna lie

[glacial light]

Autocannon is one I feel doesn't really need buddy load

[blazing echo]

arrowhead has always had a great attitude about their own weaknesses

[glacial light]

Since a partial reload is really quick

[blazing echo]

and owning it that hard is a flex

and yeah, though, having a buddy for it turns the awesome up a few more notches

[odd arch]

it doesn't need it but it becomes a secret second weapon with reloads

from a sniper to an indiscriminate carpet bomber

[glacial light]

RR I'd say becomes hilariously broke with buddy reload

[blazing echo]

nothing hits like scrambling to the extract, windmill slamming down a bunch of turrets, a second callin of the AC for more ammo, frisbeeing your mixtape of a constant loop of Holding Out for a Hero into the tape deck and blotting out the sun with cordite smoke

[glacial light]

Most ironic weapon in HD2 is probably liberator, it's in all the promo materials

[odd arch]

liberator is good but I prefer even the constitution to it tbh

[blazing echo]

I was gonna say 'yeah but it's just the generic assault rifle'

but no the liberator is a genuinely cool looking gun

[glacial light]

Iconic doesn't mean unique

[odd arch]

I go for character and being a bad gun is more character than being just a good gun

[blazing echo]

and not just because I have a fetish for bullpup actions

[glacial light]

To me it's just means most recognizable trait

[blazing echo]

it has a distinctive silhouette that doesn't let it fall into 'tropey default gun'

[glacial light]

I think people with only a vague familiarity with helldivers would see a character with a liberator and think that's the helldivers gun

[blazing echo]

it kinda shares that with stuff like the halo magnum - it's the mario but it's a cool fuckin' mario

[odd arch]

I'm a light pen defender but like I think my most used light assault rifle is the lib conc of all things

because it does something other than plink good

(mostly it plinks bad)

[spare verge]

it did feel fitting near launch when you're told it's the mighty Liberator in the tutorial and then you get into actual gameplay it's a shitty starship troopers gun that takes many shots to kill a single bug

really set the tone, even if it's better gameplaywise for it to not suck

[glacial light]

Tbf that was like all weapons at launch

[blazing echo]

hey, don't you be hating on the liberator conc

[glacial light]

Except rail gun which got nerfed near launch

[blazing echo]

that thing got me out of the creek* in one piece*

[spare verge]

iirc it was the breaker shotgun that used to be king

[blazing echo]

the pushback was clutch at launch when no standard weapon was going to be chewing through medium weight bots no matter what

[glacial light]

Oh creek I don't miss you at all

Creek was mostly bad cause any explosive damage would one shot you even if you were like 10 feet away so rocket dev salvos that just glanced you would one shot you. Also armor was broken and you had 0 armor value on all armors so even less than light was supposed to have.
On the removed mission type bots would spawn literally anywhere so right on top of the civ extract enough to body block the civ with a hulk or in front of a civ spawner.

[blazing echo]

don't forget that the rocket devastators have had their Wheaties removed with an axe

[glacial light]

And rocket devs had much shorter salvo cooldown, infinite ammo, and we had much less options for weapons/stratagems that could deal heavy damage that kept up with the spawn rate

[spare verge]

I do slightly miss when bumping up even to difficulty 4 or 5 felt like a challenge but only slightly

[blazing echo]

'REDUCED ROCKET DEVASTATOR FIRE RATE BY 90%' is an UNHINGED PATCH NOTE

but that's exactly what they did

[glacial light]

If Creek was brought back as is it'd be fine imo, it was just the state of the game was bad for it. Now we power crept and it'd be like not all that hard

[spare verge]

it is nice being able to pick more than a handful of guns without essentially throwing

[glacial light]

Oh yea build variety was awful

[blazing echo]

I still mostly play at like, difficulty 6 - though I don't have nearly the hours as most folks who play

[spare verge]

I wonder how the enemy design of then would fare against the weapon balance now

[glacial light]

So when I literally started days after launch, defense on creek was the MO, diff 1 at the time for bots for that one mission type specifically (which again was removed for being jank/unfair/unfun) had arowthe same enemy density as an 7-8 now during extract

[blazing echo]

I think the bigger thing is strategems being so much more powerful, and the big thing of the creek was the pre-nerf ion storms

[agile fable]

The most bullshit load out of today
VS
The most bullshit enemies of all time

[blazing echo]

wait, which mission type war removed?

I'm blanking

[spare verge]

extract scientists

[glacial light]

A lot of it was spawning tons of heavies that we had no answers to cause eats, rocket pods, orbital railgun, ops were like one of the few low cooldown at options and it was like minimum 100seconds iirc

[blazing echo]

...god there's some wonderful comedy in the 'story event objectives' list

[glacial light]

Combined with glass helldivers, RR buddy loading wasn't ideal cause you'd both be glassed

[spare verge]

the one where you had a base with civilians to extract but it constantly spawned enemies just outside it

fortunately they never made a mission with constantly spawning enemies while you have to escort something again

hold on I'm receiving a note,

[glacial light]

Depends if we have working armor included

[blazing echo]

oh right it was the variant that just had hyper spawns

[glacial light]

Fortified heavy armor with actual working armor rating or new python commando armor and supply packprobably was laugh at rocket devs

[spare verge]

current player-side balance vs. launch enemies/mission design is what I'm thinking

[blazing echo]

...also maybe it's just my playstyle (and hating to waste ammo...) but I both love and hate the maxigun

just a WEE BIT MORE AMMO PLZ

and some way to keep it spun up without firing ><

[blazing echo]

wait which gamemode are we grousing about :P

[spare verge]

the rapid acquisition currently

[blazing echo]

oh

[spare verge]

it feels like it's rough for very similar reasons but I don't think they consciously recreated it

this time the helldivers get to be the escortees

[blazing echo]

...see, my thousands of hours in payday just kinda leave 'transporting cumbersome bullshit in the middle of an onslaught' as 'tuesday'

and have me going 'at least these ones don't blow up when you drop them, and have to be transported two and a half kilometers on a shitty forklift'

(meltdown farming my beloathed)

[blissful sparrow]

I just bring the shield bubble, pop it down next to the container every 90 seconds and i can fill it up in pieces and quiet

[glacial light]

Being 2 down cause 2 players are on money bag transport duty

[spare verge]

it's particularly rough with less than 4 players since you have accordingly less hands to spare

[blazing echo]

most of the groups I've run it with have figured out a solid strat - either having one person dedicated and bucket brigading things on power cells or 1-2 on platinum, and the phrase CALLING DOWN A SENTRY about 8-9 times on platinum

whoom your escort quest is now tower defense

...speaking of old-heads coming back, uh

how the fuck do you kill war striders

[spare verge]

I notice that most of the difficulty spike missions are ones that constantly spawn enemies but killing the enemies doesn't progress the mission

[blazing echo]

dropping a 500kg dead center onto one and having it go 'DELICIOUS, LITTLE SPICY I GUESS' was... alarming

[spare verge]

extract scientists, the activate TCS missions, rapid acquisition

[blazing echo]

yeah people don't know how to balance running and clearing very well, I've found

-# seriously though how the fuck do you kill war striders

[spare verge]

I think you can shoot them in the knees

[blissful sparrow]

they have a little face up on top, just hit that
Tho be careful as the angle sucks from flat ground, so your shell can bounce
But they do topple to 1 railgun shot

[blazing echo]

wrong strider I think, the big armored ones

[glacial light]

Shoot them in the knees too

[blazing echo]

their knees are AP4

[glacial light]

That's what senator or eruptor is for

Or eagle strafe

[blazing echo]

nah, those have ap 3

they're tank armored, not heavy

'at rocket launcher' is probably the simple play

[glacial light]

No it's heavy armor for many parts of a war strider

AP4 is heavy

[blazing echo]

OH RIGHT

[glacial light]

Which Eruptor and Senator are heavy

[blazing echo]

how many times am I going to do that

right, we have unarmored and second unarmored

[glacial light]

Eagle strafe is Ap5 so it's anti tank 1

One shots hulks, tanks, war striders

[blazing echo]

OH

they have major to complete explosive DR on everything

[glacial light]

And I think 5 strafe can kill a striderb

[blazing echo]

that's why the 500kg didn't do it

[glacial light]

Technically eye is the weakest spot but it's kinda hard to see at times and it's real tiny so hip or knees are more reliable

[blazing echo]

...wait then if it has 100% exDR why does the thermite...

oh, the legs don't

[blissful sparrow]

3 body shots with AT also work

[blazing echo]

'throwing a thermite from directly underneath the war strider' do we take feedback on this suggestion?

[rare nymph]

I’ve had solid luck throwing thermite pretty much anywhere on the strider fwiw

[glacial light]

That's kind of a lot, hips have much less HP

[blazing echo]

[glacial light]

Thermite works on war striders fine

[blazing echo]

oh yeah it's more the 'directly below' part

[glacial light]

I just chuck it anywhere on it

[blazing echo]

'just bring the ultimatum'

[glacial light]

2 Pyrotechs also kill war strider

3-4 Pyrotechs even kill factory striders if you want to get close enough

[blazing echo]

fair

I've been having bad luck with fighting them with the eruptor

but I guess really it's that they're just beefy

[glacial light]

High durable resistance

70% at minimum for kill spots

Also eruptor damage is most in the shrapnel, so hitting the top eye is your best bet but that'd take around 3 shots dead on. HMG and autocannon make short work of them

[blazing echo]

yeah

[glacial light]

The top eye is a lot easier to hit than the weird chest eye

[blazing echo]

right now my usual loadout is eruptor/bad comedy/HMG or maxigun

and by bad comedy I mean the stun stick, because the meme is just not working

[glacial light]

Oh and railgun one shots in unsafe iirc

[blissful sparrow]

yup, thats been my go to

can just to hard to hit due to being a small target

[glacial light]

Being used to x10 sniper scope, railgun and antmat rifle not having scope options hurt me

I think its cause FOV is broke on x10 and it zooms in the same at x4 so the scope is smaller on the screen and you can see more around you whereas x4 takes up most of your screen like the other scopes

[strange vine]

apparently a big set of leaks for bot content was just found

[oblique lotus]

Rocket to anything below the main body will oneshot

Quasar/EAT/RR/etc to the hips or leg or groin

Railgun plus one AP4 hit of any flavor to a hip joint

For factory striders pop the gatling guns then either run under it and spray the belly with medium pen or spam the head with antitank

Solo silo oneshots

[knotty folio]

Thermite anywhere except the guns, EAT the crotch or hips, AT emplacement twice to the crotch or hips, Ultimatum anywhere nearby, RR in the same spots as the EAT

I haven't tested this thoroughly yet but I think the Hot Dog actually chews through them fairly well

[verbal summit]

Going brrrrrrrt is a very good feeling I've discovered

Even moreso when there's more than 1 brrrrrrt

[cobalt patrol]

I actually think the minigun is a good soloution to the rapid acq,m as long as you have the armor to keep yoruself form getting knocked over

[dark plover]

I feel naked any time I do a long bot mission without the trust recoilless rifle.

[hearty pier]

Much like with the doors of a factory strider all of the flamethrowers do kill them quite quickly, they just have other problems into bots

I had a war strider heavy city mission once where I got reinforced without my gear and only had a scavenged flamethrower for a while that worked shockingly well

[glacial light]

I feel naked without warp pack

What do you mean I can't just go 15 feet instantly out of danger? I got to physically jump out of danger and it can't even kill a guy by doing so

[blazing echo]

'ultimatium anywhere nearby'

you're not wrong

[unreal merlin]

hellbomb trebuchet technique

[glacial light]

Best part of eats encampment

[dark plover]

Warp pack bout to get me to spend more money on micro transactions. 😩

Sometimes I borrow it when my friend dies. And for those brief few minutes, I feel truly free. (Of the laws of reality)

[strange vine]

i put out some minor fixes for my icon mod
https://www.nexusmods.com/helldivers2/mods/9356

[tight zephyr]

Hey guys I think this new mission type might suck ass.

[unreal merlin]

Such a great throwback to the old VIP Extraction mission.

[tight zephyr]

Yeah, like I said.

[rare nymph]

New cape just dropped

[hexed steeple]

well we'd better pick it up

[glacial light]

How cool does it look

[unreal merlin]

good cape

[agile fable]

credit goes to @doottle on tumblr

[split parcel]

Imagine their dismay when we deploy the 1988 Toyota Hilux

[cobalt patrol]

What are chances of acontent drop tomorrow do you think?

[cobalt patrol]

This is always a bit frustrating

[idle hollow]

they're bringing the helghast gear back as a war bond like the ODST one

[cobalt patrol]

https://blog.playstation.com/2025/12/11/the-helldivers-2-x-killzone-items-return-as-a-legendary-warbond-dec-18/

Who gets what and how does it work:

Players who have previously purchased any (even one) of the Killzone items, will have the whole Helldivers 2 x Killzone Legendary Warbond unlocked at no extra cost! Additionally, there is no medal vacuum here! The items previously purchased (and those which were gifted last December) will be medal unlocked. So no need to spend medals on the items you already own!
Players who received the gifted items in December 2024 but didn’t pay for any single item, will have to pay the 1500 Super Credits to unlock the full Legendary Warbond. 
Not to worry, if you do pay for the Warbond; the gifted items will also be medal unlocked.
Players joining after the Helldivers 2 x Killzone items left the store in December 2024 can access the Warbond by unlocking it for 1500 SC, and then enjoy redeeming medals on their favorite items just as usual.

So any one of us who bought the items already (I did!) get the warbond for free, so that's nice

The "new" stuff is just cosmetics for your vehicles etc, but hey, more cosmetics is always nice

[verbal summit]

What if I buy any of the killzone stuff now (is it even still possible to buy?)

[burnt vapor]

No hence the warbond

[verbal summit]

Ah

Don't remember whether I bought anything so I guess I'll see

[cobalt patrol]

Man

Lava planets are pretty

The vibes are great

[spare verge]

they've really outdone themselves with the verticality they have

[cobalt patrol]

I havnet noticed them being notably more verticla than normal ones

But i love the visuals

[spare verge]

I notice they have a lot more cliffs and chasms and hills

depends on the map gen though

[cobalt patrol]

I've def noticed the little valleys and dips

also, i keep taking it on accidnet, but it really works on bots: Double Freedom is great fun

[glacial light]

Ive been playing on so much blizzard, sandstorm, and real dark planets that being able to see is great

[quick plinth]

anyone happen to know of a mod that makes the red planets less red?

my eyes

my poor eyes

[idle cobalt]

On one hand that’s great
On the other, I got stuck on an elevation quite a lot of time

[glacial light]

I havent played it but it sounds like hover pack stocks going up

[burnt vapor]

Lava planets are really cool I just wish Rapid Acquisition either wasn’t on basically every operation or was less of an awful experience

[agile fable]

Same

I wanna Do My Part™ but I’m a solo girl I PHYSICALLY can’t do that shit

[burnt vapor]

Shit I normally play in a 3-4 stack that can reliably do D10 and even after dropping down to 7 we couldn’t finish one, admittedly we got close but the container drop point was physically blocked by a tank that had driven onto it and then died preventing us from dropping off the last of the platinum to actually finish the mission

[agile fable]

I play on haz 4 cause im not too powerful and its hell there still lemme tell ya

[idle cobalt]

From the few Rapid Acquisitions I made with friends (and diff 6, so I don't have all the insights with further diffs), it just boiled down to Orbital Laser, plus Shield, and just survive until it more or less calmed down
Which isn't all that interesting. It's mostly just a stress test and then a rush. Which, for a short mission, yeah, why not. But I didn't feel like there were too many ways to do the thing.
Also, I haven't watched guide, or read anything other than snippets here and there

[strange vine]

Smokes and turrets along with hard AT like RR help a lot

You also want to have at least 1 or 2 people focusing on carrying bars at all times

[strange vine]

man the lava planets are just real pretty

[unreal merlin]

I like the missions where darkness is so much that you're rewarded for bringing a flashlight. The last one i was on was a megacity and my light source was the SOCOM so I'm running corners and blinding raiders before giving them a two-tap, was quite fun

[blazing echo]

someone dropped a smoke strike on the last mission i was on before K flipped

'WE GET IT YOU VAPE'

[indigo bear]

Nearly done with my credit farming. Soon I can get my hands on the minigun and dakka like the best of them

[tight zephyr]

The maxigun is my favorite thing they’ve ever put in this game.

[glacial light]

Upgrade so it comes down in a donut and another one so the helldiver can just emit smoke cloud from their lungs

[dark plover]

How do you keep the maxigun recoil in check? Armor passives? Going prone before firing?

[graceful bluff]

Give me an emote that releases smoke

just hitting the bots with a

https://tenor.com/view/packwatch-gif-22219180

[steady flame]

Crouching works, and stacking it with an armour passive can be better.

Ayef Kay ↩️

[Reply to:](#1204832579287519292 message) How do you keep the maxigun recoil in check? Armor passives? Going prone before firing?

[oblique lotus]

Crouching before firing usually does it for me

Also firing in bursts and in third person since in first person the muzzle flash and no sights make aiming challenging

[unreal merlin]

Yeah first person is for vibes only. Fire in bursts, crouch or prone if you can. You can spool up while diving so use that to get a bit of time efficiency

[quick plinth]

they are very pretty, though, my eyes hurt from all the orange and red for extended periods of time

[steady flame]

Why must our game audio break with each update?

[agile fable]

NO NEED FOR ANTITANK WHEN ITS TIME TO EXFIL

[quick plinth]

https://www.rxddit.com/r/LowSodiumHellDivers/s/ZjhGCVcnGv

[indigo bear]

Been playing at diff 6 on the bot front, easing my way back in after hiatus since the Illuminate emergence.

Really liking the supply pack. Seems like pubbie divers are pretty ammo hungry and things get real wholesome when you're swinging by with a supply delivery

[glacial light]

I used to run it with democracy protects to tank everything

stim booster and just outrun light by eating Stims with medium armor

And still have plenty to spam during a fight

[dark plover]

Supply Pack with an ammo hungry primary, secondary, and support weapon. 💪🏼

[tight zephyr]

I still stand by the Maxigun. There might be more strictly efficient weapons out there, but this is a pure aura farming weapon and I'm here for it.

[trim breach]

Especially if oyu have multiple

[supple siren]

There's always brother Gatling Sentry if you're without

[unreal merlin]

Maxigun does good work, it's certainly fine at minimum assuming you're coming with solutions for the things it doesn't handle at all.

Don't bring a maxigun and no AT to a difficulty 10 bot mission.

[trim breach]

Maxigun is a Squid Destroyer

It's middling against bots, I've found

For Bugs it's great until you get a Titan/Charger conga line

[normal juniper]

you will look impeccably cool before getting turned into fertilizer by a single shield dev

[rare nymph]

I've had surprising success using the maxigun against shield devs

[unreal merlin]

Maxigun is okay vs bots because devastators of all kinds, scout/armored striders, and naturally raiders get mulched by a torrent of medium pen bullets. It just does NOTHING vs heavy armor (tanks, fac/war striders, hulks) so you need to come with solutions for those if you're playing difficulties where those can be found.

[steady flame]

Yeah, IMO, the bot front is the Maxigun's difficulty.

Salad, Advocates for Things ↩️

[Reply to:](#1204832579287519292 message) Maxigun is okay vs bots because devastators of all kinds, scout/armored striders, and naturally ra…

[verbal summit]

It's amazing on squids and great on bugs

I'm having a lot of fun with it

[indigo bear]

Finding the Hive Worlds to be ideal for Super Credit farming.

Scads of them just laying on the ground

[supple siren]

What could those sinister beasts want with our credits

[indigo bear]

It worse than you can imagine. They're leaving our most valued currencies behind like waste!

Their foul, undemocratic minds cannot even concieve of a thriving economy

Anyone have a bug map while SC farming where the warriors are all preoccupied with hitting rocks?

Like, I could casually sprint by or shoot around most of them without reaction.

The littlest guys functioned correctly though

[trim breach]

You see the credits were on the SEAF guys we sent in first, and Super Earth takes pride in making sure its currency will never wear out or devalue by making it completely undigestible.

[rare nymph]

Has anyone else noticed a bug lately where all teammates and enemies appear suspended in the air? Its happened to me twice now

[glacial light]

Their floating pawns: barbarically breaking the fundamental laws of physics like criminals
Our floating helldivers: free from gravity like true patriots

[cobalt patrol]

HUh, apperntly sony DMCA'd the main leaks discord for helldivers

it is gonezo

[odd arch]

god forbid gamers engage in dubiously legal activity

[cobalt patrol]

It kinda b others me here since 90%, 99% of the leaks are just... datamining stuff they've left in the files

[odd arch]

yeah no I'm on the side of gamers here

[graceful bluff]

It's one of those "Illegal because no one can fight the megacorp on it, not because of any law"

[glacial light]

Damn Maxigun kills hive lords fast

Just use something else to break stomach and its free game

[tight zephyr]

Oh, worm?

[unreal merlin]

worm

[verbal summit]

Don't anger the worm

Just knocked me up in the air and devoured me like a snack, nothing I could do about it

This is why I love the worm

[strange vine]

hive lords kinda suck in a not fun way as an environmental hazard

theyre good as a bespoke boss but they really should just have an assassinate mission focused on them

and not a guaranteed spawn every mission

[verbal summit]

I like the chaos

[glacial light]

I like this as a concept but I wished they were changed a bit so they're not just put to gun you immediately. Something like dune where they're attracted to the sounds of many explosives/hell pods landing but there are ways to "stealth" them by not using those and just running or staggering your stratagems to be not back to back

[knotty folio]

At the very least they should be a mission modifier instead of a planet one

[verbal summit]

Yes that's fair

Tho I do like the chaos of them

[blissful sparrow]

1 Hive lord per mission Chain.
Its HP and Survival is persisted throughout the chain

[verbal summit]

That's also a good way to do it

[knotty folio]

Ditto, it's just annoying when you don't feel like dealing with one and it means you just don't get to play on hive worlds at all

[verbal summit]

Fair

[dark plover]

When I see that shit I'm Orbital Napalming the shipping crate.

[ionic holly]

Only five hundred?

Gimme more

[cobalt patrol]

Bring your gods! Bring your demons! Bring your damned! I'll slaughter them all!

[burnt vapor]

The day we find the warstrider factory world is the day we make meridia 2

[quick plinth]

anyone remember how lobby number relates to which ship you get in mission? (north west south east?)

[verbal summit]

I forgor but you can always throw an airburst to see

My guess is number 1 is north n it goes clockwise but idk

[rare nymph]

120mm HE/EMS barrage is now available on select planets

[strange vine]

looks like it changes the base stratagem

[agile fable]

MERRY CHRISTMAS, YOU FILTHY ANIMALS!

[ionic holly]

im glad i tried the standard diligence per a friend's suggestion, this feels great

[verbal summit]

Yeah as soon as I realised you can just keep pressing the button I did exactly that and my friends went like "what the FUCK"

As I lay in my bath of batteries

[ionic holly]

I wonder if you can daisy chain them exploding

[ionic holly]

While its a shame to have lost my melee
god damn engineering kit + one-two/pineapple/maxigun is fun

[tight zephyr]

It's been a while since I just hit R and dropped in on some randos. Maybe I'll make a point of doing that tomorrow.

[ionic holly]

Hope you've better luck than me
had an utterly miserable time one time when i joined where after i called in my maxigun someone just
kept killing me over and over for no reason

[split parcel]

Super Mariah Carey...

[agile fable]

8701 people are dead and literally everyone including the leaders are cheering. not a damn soul hasn't imbibed in the koolaid. also damnit not even super earth can escape her

[unreal merlin]

8701 traitors to the Federation were executed.

[glacial light]

You mean Super Earth just became 8701 enemies of humanity safer

I do love Helldiver events are such good Starship Trooper vibes

Also the nod to All I want for Christmas

[spare verge]

at least, that's what the news is telling us

for all we know there's constant uprisings that the helldivers simply aren't deployed for

[blissful sparrow]

10000 people were asked what they think about public executions
1299 replied they love them

[agile fable]

brain has been afflicted with jjba brainrot and i had the bright idea to fuse that with helldivers so i came up with stands inspired by my favorite fronts
eScape
Allows the user to transform parts of their body into various mechanical forms provided that there's enough steel in the stand's range
Strength: B
Speed: D
Range: C
Durability: A
Precision: C
Potential: A
Squid Sister
Upon making physical contact with the user while active, humans will begin turning into cephalopod-like creatures under the user's control. these creatures cannot make more of themselves on their own.
Strength: B
Speed:C
Range: E
Durability: C
Precision: B
Potential: D
take a guess which fronts, they're pretty obvious but i love both of them

[tight zephyr]

Using the maxigun on Squids makes them tolerable!

[agile fable]

stalwart go brr

[tight zephyr]

It wasn’t enough dakka for me against the squids.

I finally have sufficient dakka.

[agile fable]

matter of taste, i suppose

[tight zephyr]

The Maxigun is my new favorite weapon.

If I come out the other side of a mission with fewer than 3000 rounds fired, I’ve failed democracy.

BIG DAKKA

[glacial light]

Real sickle energy

Less than 2000 then you could have fired more

[verbal summit]

So true

[oblique lotus]

the extra T is very funny

[verbal summit]

True

[ionic holly]

real as fuck
i use it in my "hey what if i actually tried to use a heavy EK set" build and i love it so much

[tight zephyr]

I use it with Peak Physique, it’s hard to control but…

Aura farming.

[glacial light]

I bet it feels amazing on squid priority extract

You just stand in one place and mow everything down

[tight zephyr]

“Hahaha wheeee”

[indigo bear]

Feels pretty good on bugs too

[tight zephyr]

That’s the quality I look for in a weapon. Whether or not it makes me go “hahaha wheeeee”

[verbal summit]

I love brrrrt

[verbal summit]

Same

I've played squids with friends where our build is just specifically supply pack and directional energy shield to protect and supply me while I go brrrt

[glacial light]

Hmm generator and maxigun might be sick as hell for squid defense

2 mortars side by side inside the generator with a maxigun

[verbal summit]

Also riding a mech with maxigun is also really funny

[glacial light]

Can you use the maxigun in the car?

[verbal summit]

Not that I know of

For some reason I feel like no?

But it could just as easily be yes

[strange vine]

yes

[glacial light]

New idea to be menace during illuminates

3 maxi guns in a car

[normal juniper]

The Warthog Warthog

[glacial light]

I guess better option is 2 maxi gunners, one driver, one person that actually gets out and does objectives for combined arms tactics

Also means the 2 gunners can swap seats as needed

[normal juniper]

I think the idea of drive by maxiguns are so fucking funny

[glacial light]

It would negate the big weakness of maxi gun being you gotta stand

Idk what recoil is like shooting out the car though

The only thing that would kill you a stingray bombing your car or a rock that causes it to flip over

[verbal summit]

Just blast the stingray before it can do harm

[tight zephyr]

I tried it out and accidentally blasted the driver and one of the tires.

[verbal summit]

As intended

[graceful bluff]

it's really annoying too because it acts like strictFiltering is on even though it isn't

[tight zephyr]

I like the new incendiary gatling a LOT and I hope we get a version of it later.

[burnt vapor]

I have found both it and the 120 HE/EMS very nice and would happily take them

[graceful bluff]

the sheer amount of bullets you can shit downrange with the maxigun while next to a resupply pod is amazing

what does this mean anyway

[cobalt patrol]

I think that yo uget it for free - most of the experimental strats have been remixes? I thoguht? like incin gattling

that just seems to be a 120mm barrage

[graceful bluff]

it has ems rounds mixed in apparently

[hearty pier]

ems rounds, tighter radius and more bursts

[glacial light]

EMS gatling seems wild

Imagine if they did cluster strafe

[graceful bluff]

Cluster gatling

[oblique lotus]

EMS cluster would be cool

incendiary cluster would be also cool but probably the greatest teamkilling tool ever devised

[glacial light]

Cluster airburst

I'm still waiting for Cluster Dog /s

[oblique lotus]

pineapple dog

[glacial light]

I would die for a dynamite dog

[knotty folio]

And it would kill for you!

[blissful sparrow]

We already have Seeker grenades

[graceful bluff]

I still want a seeker hive stratagem

basically a big cylinder with like 50 of the fuckers

[glacial light]

That'd be sick ngl

Hellpod that deploys dozens of seekers would be amazing

Like the mine layer but seekers

[rare nymph]

In a similar vein, I’d like a kennel strat that deploys like three guard dogs

[graceful bluff]

I'd also take a wasp hive, where it's just like 9 tubes of the wasp cylinders aiming straight up and just artillery striking everything in the area

[glacial light]

I think like an automatic mech drone would be cool, like it just is a mech that runs forward in the straight line fire at everything then exploding

Bouncin Betty mines as a grenade would be neat too

[graceful bluff]

https://tenor.com/view/the-creator-self-die-robot-the-creator-movie-creator-movie-gif-12987207010770520241

[glacial light]

Yes

Is it an efficient way to destroy a fab? No but it's a patriotic way to salute the mech before it runs out of ammo/HP and detonate

I just want my need for a SEAF reinforcement strat, I'd take anything really

[graceful bluff]

The ability to hand seaf soldiers backpack stratagems

[glacial light]

Even like a mine played hunter seeker swarm drone

[graceful bluff]

Be it guard dogs, or hellbombs :v

[glacial light]

Here's an airburst launcher

Imagine though

[stark ether]

sounds awfully seditious

[glacial light]

If you ping an objective and give a hellbomb pack to a SEAF they'll run as a as a squad to it and detonate the hellbomb

[glacial light]

Give a dog a mech

[graceful bluff]

Give me one of those boston dynamic dogs that you can ride

let me combo it with the one true flag

[glacial light]

My destroyer for a dog horse

Dog walk me closer so I can stab them with the flag

But like a lance

[stark ether]

give me the one tru flag but its those anti tank sticks

[knotty folio]

I want the shredder grenade from DRG as a stratagem

[graceful bluff]

ooh I haven't played drg in a while and that does look fun

[glacial light]

The anti tank melee

One time use

Although an EATs on a stick would be funny

[odd arch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/620576156613345310/1455661158676824269/image-20.png?ex=69558999&is=69543819&hm=a74536c22637a825167cc3014b6d58430549a3dc05c2d741b811c5c86ebfef2c&

[knotty folio]

This is the benefit of gas mines, you just get -25 for the SEAF soldiers they magnetically attract instead

[glacial light]

Heavy gas and the health booster makes you take no damage iirc

I used to do that with gas nades and gas strike. Gas nade feet to get them confused and fairly still then use gas orbital like a OPS

Also bots are very nice about just shooting at each other while high, also gas dog is nice and doesn't TK really

[odd arch]

gas loadouts are my guilty pleasure

when everything's going fine my team is like go away stinky

but when I'm the last one standing I don't have to worry about friendly fire anymore

and waltzing through objectives while bugs take a coughing break feels like cheese

[glacial light]

My guilty pleasure is arc dog and arc armor

[cobalt patrol]

Got a source on that?

[vale obsidian]

might as well try asking here as well

so helldivers keeps shutting down my entire computer within ~5 minutes of just standing around on the super destroyer

my research (my it friend and some reddit threads) tell me that this is a very common issue with the game, and it has to do with my computer's power supply unit being inadequate, which they very often are with prebuilt pcs

are there any solutions to this apart from buying and installing a new psu?

i've tried lowering all the graphics settings, i've tried --use-d3d11 in the launch flags, no luck

[odd arch]

my PSU is way over spec and it still happens to me

[vale obsidian]

how confounding

[lethal delta]

What's your GPU, your CPU, and PSU

Also, what do you have hooked on the pc?

[vale obsidian]

AMD Ryzen 5 7600 6-Core Processor (3.80 GHz)
AMD Radeon RX 7600

the psu, i uhhh

i forgor 💀

let me look into it

oh here we go

Gigabyte P750GM 750W Modular 80+ Gold PSU

[lethal delta]

Your psu is enough for those specs

It's not inadequate

[glacial light]

These are pretty sick ideas for car
https://www.reddit.com/r/Helldivers/comments/1ptko69/hear_me_out/

But also

A preview of the post

[oblique lotus]

this is an extremely good idea

ME1 Mako time

[glacial light]

Imagine though being able to flip over the car

[oblique lotus]

thats what the grenade pistol is for

[verbal summit]

We got the makeshift flipover in the form of an eruptor I guess

[glacial light]

Thresher maw time

How do you do that as an Eruptor gamer, I just never thought to try shooting the car

[verbal summit]

Shoot under it a lil

It launches it up

8/10 times it lands upriggt

If you shoot it a second time it explodes

It makes me think of like AED devices being used cus you have to make sure everyone is clear first

[oblique lotus]

you want to shoot near it but not directly at it so the blast flips the car without wrecking a tire

the eruptor shrapnel can cause problems so the GP is a bit safer

kinda off to the side

[knotty folio]

This is definitely the better idea but when I saw that image I immediately thought of the turbo for the Flash from PS2, which did not do anything nearly this fancy, it just gave you significantly more forward thrust than the car's acceleration due to gravity

[oblique lotus]

its very vibes

[verbal summit]

You can shoot the car itself and 95/100 times it won't hurt a tire

[knotty folio]

There's a sweet spot where the knockback radius hits it but not the explosion damage, but it's a gamble on how lucky you are with the shrapnel

Since sometimes it will just go pop the tires

[verbal summit]

I've barely ever had it pop a tire tbh

[knotty folio]

I've had it happen occasionally but the tires might well have been pre-injured in some of them

[verbal summit]

Feels like that's the case most of the time

It happens so little it's negligible.

[glacial light]

I do wish the car was not made of feathers

[odd arch]

when I do pop a tire I pop the rest because might as well turn the inconvenience into comedy

[verbal summit]

Mhm

[glacial light]

I feel like half the cars I get in gets flipped over by a small rock and kills everyone which is why I dont get in the gunner even if im the only passenger

[verbal summit]

I abandon ship most of the time

I mean

Abandon car

[oblique lotus]

the car drives a lot better in 2nd gear and people dont do that

[verbal summit]

Not abandon the mission

[glacial light]

Nor will I get into a car if were low on reinforcements

[glacial light]

An extreme but reasonable response

[verbal summit]

I don't want my speed to be limited

And I can control the car pretty well

My friends might say otherwise but they're cowards

Always full send it

[odd arch]

I am god's drunkest driver

no one is safe if I am within a grid square of a car

[glacial light]

16 seconds and car stayed upright? Good by my standard

[odd arch]

I am also not getting anywhere

the trick is I understand how to make the car behave

but I am deluded that I can control it at full send

[glacial light]

If the car didnt also kill my passengers as easily as it does me id bring it and drive it more often

I am fine with me and the gunner dying to physics

[verbal summit]

I always tell people not to get in the gunner seat

[tight zephyr]

The bugs are back.

[agile fable]

fuck happened?

[agile fable]

here we go again

[strange vine]

its mission completions so drop the difficulties

[agile fable]

time to sc farm

[quick plinth]

https://www.rxddit.com/r/LowSodiumHellDivers/comments/1q3nwbm/new_video_by_epg6_meet_the_exo100_centaurion/

[oblique lotus]

I kinda wish the maxigun had sights

[normal juniper]

With all due respect, even With sights, what the hell are you even going to see?

The amount of smoke and muzzle flash that thing spits out would make it basically useless

However, it would be very funny to try it anyway so I agree

[graceful bluff]

self flashbang

[glacial light]

I can already do that it's call stun nade at feet

[tight zephyr]

The Maxigun isn’t for accuracy, it’s for pointing vaguely at an undemocratic problem and leaning on the trigger until the red Xes stop.

[strange vine]

i do wish holding down right click keeps the maxigun rev'd

[tight zephyr]

That, I would like.

[glacial light]

What does it do now?

[tight zephyr]

Just zooms in a bit and braces you.

[cobalt patrol]

"Recent vivisectional audits of captured Automatons—ranging from inert to vocally resisting—have revealed the solution. To endure Magma Planets, the soulless construct"

Oh helldivers

[tight zephyr]

I think they endure magma planets because they’re made of metal. Possibly.

[idle cobalt]

Metal is very conductive of heat, they would melt. Or their organics parts would cook. They are walking air fryers

[strange vine]

shoutout to helldivers last night when my friend was saying that they love driving the car when the game wasnt shitting on them and then the car immediately exploded, did 5 flips in the air, and killed us

[tight zephyr]

Super Earth took a lot of notes from the UNSC with that car. Namely that it should act like it weighs three pounds and handle like every surface is glare ice.

[graceful bluff]

there's a playtest for this going on, seems really up the alley of helldivers players https://store.steampowered.com/app/3124540/Far_Far_West/

Steam

Far Far West

Guns, Gears & Giddy-up!

Form a crew of bounty-hunting robot cowboys to take on dangerous contracts from the Town Sheriff. Team up with friends in 1-4 player co-op to track down dangerous targets, take them out, and bring home the bounty. It’s a dusty job, but someone’s gotta do it!…

Release Date

2026

[glad marsh]

Oh it's out now?

the demos I saw looked so cool...

[graceful bluff]

playtest, not fully out

[wind arrow]

ok went through on mission on easy solo

it'd be very unfortunate if Far far west got more popularity than highguard

[burnt vapor]

Those are fairly different games, big point being Highguard is PVP whereas Far Far West is PVE

[stone bridge]

Unfortunate how?

[wind arrow]

y'know, my brain went "both games are shooters where you are said to have a horse" and went with make them compete

and "unfortunately" as in the guys who marketed highguard has been expected to have blewn a lot of money at marketing it by obtaining a "one last thing" slot

[stone bridge]

Ah

I mean I'll be real

They shouldn't have taken that slot lmao the game looks very generic

[burnt vapor]

NGL I hadn't even heard of it till I looked it up to see why it was being talked about alongside Far Far West which doesn't bode terribly well for hype around it.

[glad marsh]

Yar, we know
We're talking about the playtest being out (we remember hearing about it "coming soon" from a RubixRaptor video)

Anyways
Highguard feels like it's gonna go the way of Concord

The situations have extremely similar vibes

[graceful bluff]

highguard buying that extremely expensive spot at tga and then.. not doing a single bit of other marketing is just wild

[glad marsh]

Yeah..

[normal juniper]

they really thought that "from the creators of titanfall and apex" was a good idea that would sell their game, instead of incurring the vicious disappointment of titanfall gamers being starved of any good titles for a decade

also apex players are just going to play apex

[oblique lotus]

why is there a magic AK? could you really not come up with a different weapon?

[glad marsh]

Isn't it a hero shooter

[tight zephyr]

Oh, that's annoying.

[knotty folio]

Could you go prone to get them?

[tight zephyr]

Nope.

[knotty folio]

Well, Super Earth demands sacrifice

[tight zephyr]

I think they're melted to the rock. That's what I'm telling myself.

[glad marsh]

Someone pranked you with the classic money glued to the floor trick

[graceful bluff]

spicy credits

[glacial light]

g

[knotty folio]

g

[glad marsh]

g

[ionic holly]

g

[tight zephyr]

g

[north fiber]

g

[stone bridge]

g

[hexed steeple]

g

[grave sail]

g

[normal juniper]

g

[strange vine]

g

[graceful bluff]

baby baby baby

[glad marsh]

[north fiber]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1159883850562932826/1455955573504868392/m2-res_480p38.mp4?ex=69651c4b&is=6963cacb&hm=95b713c03a64c66387474527a8354ca08c238b32aef03da9d8c03f6042980e1c&

[odd arch]

yeah sabaton would record for super earth

checks out

I'm more interested in the B-side songs glazing the terminids though

[glacial light]

The concealed insertion seems really neat, if it lowers aggro for them you can drop someone on their gear so they can safely get it.

The mine though I wonder how itd work if youve already gone loud, might be very nice if it still works if youre detected as distraction

[tall stone]

Concealed Insertion is probably pretty nice for turrets too.

[blissful sparrow]

the C4 backpack seems very funny

[dusty spruce]

Please let the C4 be at least anti-tank. I loved the satchel charges from Helldivers 1 and this may fit the same niche

Also yessss on the pistol. One step closer to giving me my Paragon back

[blissful sparrow]

the trailer has them blow up a Hulk, a Bot Fabricator and a Bioprocessor. So it seems to have destructive power

[royal lantern]

It's pretty funny that the thing I think is getting people the most excited in the stealth warbond is the backpack full of bombs

[odd arch]

well yeah, stealthing was a solved problem forever ago

getting to do something without breaking stealth less so

hopefully the C4 is not coded as a grenade, ie enemies will react to it being thrown even outside of their vision and trace your location perfectly

[blissful sparrow]

the Null Cipher Armor is also A E S T H E T I C

[dusty spruce]

Mhm, want to get that helmet so I can make a version of my armor set that doesn’t need to be tan/green
Love me some faceless helmets and masks

[royal lantern]

It's not helped by the fact that the existing suppressed weapons function more or less identically to the unsuppressed ones, so unless the armor is really effective at reducing detection these new toys don't actually do much for the playstyle anyway

[lethal delta]

I need the null cipher helmet

Carnally

[ionic holly]

I hope the weapons have some good enough stats for loud purposes, i'm not particularly into a stealth playstyle but i love how they look

[glacial light]

That's the big thing especially in pubs

If you take time to stealth a rando is gonna storm in and do the objective before you're even done sneaking

[cobalt patrol]

Stealth can still work pretty well. Depends what you're doing

I run solo in pubs, so being mx. Sneaky before I go loud pays off

[unreal merlin]

The stealth passives are pretty good even when playing with the noisiest randos. The option to wander off alone is always there, and having less aggro on yourself means more proactive opportunities while your teammates are being perforated.

[cobalt patrol]

Stealth passives are actually tank passives

It's true

[ionic holly]

See i love stealth passives for the sake of I wanna be the big one taking all the attention and killing a fuck load of enemies

i would never use one because im the big fuck off distraction

[weary granite]

Stealth Divers gonna eat good with the Redacted Regiment warbond.

I wonder if the c4 can wipe out objectives like the research station and the illuminate pillar.

[strange vine]

Cant iirc

[weary granite]

Tragic

I was looking forward to wasting my FRV + C4 abomination into the objective.

[graceful bluff]

They will sadly never give us a good option for breaking stuff like the jammer

[weary granite]

Still think the missile silo should be able to do damage to it.

Like come on, dont make it one shot if that is the problem. Make it two hits from a silo and it gone.

[knotty folio]

Well, since it's demo force to break it would have to be one hit or a new mechanic

Not a complicated new mechanic, to be fair.

[graceful bluff]

I wouldn't even be mad if they let us use multiple c4 to increase demo force

just let us break shit

cause right now the hellbomb is a better stealth tool than the c4 and that does not seem right

[cobalt patrol]

Wiatr until you've actually used it

[ionic holly]

just finished a mission the same way i joined it
joined, everyone was dead already so i had to reinforce the trio, they ended up dying enough to burn the last few revives so i finish the objective and lug my walking armoury of a loadout to extract and basically solo-extract

[burnt vapor]

So who's ready for the second wave of the Illuminate invasion?

[agile fable]

We have learned nothing

[glacial light]

Wooo Merida 2 let's gooo

[glacial light]

We learned 1 wasnt enough, one more dark fluid black hole will fix things it has to

[sour falcon]

1 + 1 = 0 problems

[oblique lotus]

The black hole annoys whatever pocket dimension they retreated to, right?

we just need to open more black holes and eventually the illuminates will have to fight us in realspace

[strange vine]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1209568164141207552/1461055186389958879/fl7f9wp31adg1.jpg?ex=6969292d&is=6967d7ad&hm=3802b49cc039cbdad2cf9cb9a95634db683cbcf7b61540051fea4851d80d35a7&

[wind arrow]

can't believe we got a callback to
#1204832579287519292 message

[karmic prawn]

I mean there's no way there could be a second Great Host in there

[agile fable]

the grand host

[graceful bluff]

The Greater Host

[glacial light]

What are the chances even more illuminate come out of a dark fluid hole, basically 0 since something something lightning striking twice.

Although if it becomes a running gag that we keep making more dark fluid holes leading to new illuminate types each time that'd be peak

[knotty folio]

This time it will be the Okay Host

[graceful bluff]

I still find that saying funny because lightning striking the same place is one of the key aspects of lightning :v

As seen by some of you fuckers running into my tesla tower constantly

[knotty folio]

The Tesla Tower will never expect me to take the same route for a third time!

[idle hollow]

i love death star time

[strange vine]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKNRuqK2JcA

[hexed steeple]

swag

[strange vine]

the three main things i could think of are 1) stealth/suppressors not working as intended 2) C4 support weapon not working as they want it to or 3) lure mine also not working as intended
from the dataminers a lot of stuff was already working fine

[unreal merlin]

Doubt it's 1, we already have functional stealth passives and suppressed weapons. I foresee a surge of people whining how they don't work though (they're using it wrong).

[glacial light]

Do suppressed weapons do anything as of now

[blissful sparrow]

Lure mine or smoke pod spam breaking the game would be my guess

[glacial light]

Lure I can see

That's kind of of entirely new, we already had stealth and smoke

Everyone running Lure mines for a day will be a trip

[blissful sparrow]

"Game Crashes when 4 players throw 4 Lure mines each around a Hulk" i could easily see being a problem 😄

[glacial light]

Since its a throwable someone with a supply pack can go hogwild with lure mines

[unreal merlin]

They do, they have a much lower enemy alert radius. Shooting at something still alerts it, but the distance nearby enemies also get alerted is significantly reduced. In practice this means you can better fight one patrol without drawing attention from another one 30-40m away. If you're good about immediately eliminating single targets before they react, you can genuinely infiltrate outposts by dropping lookouts from a safe distance/angle.

[blissful sparrow]

you do actually notice this very easily with the crossbow, where the enemies do not react at all until the slow flying bolt impacts

[odd arch]

I think the crossbow plays weird with detection due to its projectile nature

hitscan weapons cast a cylinder that alerts any enemy in it even if it's a far miss

wait

not necessarily hitscan but uhhh

the bolt is somehow more lenient than most

[ionic holly]

Yeah like
i keep seeing people say stealth is bugged and they either never elaborate or just reveal they think suppressing means completely silent in this game

[unreal merlin]

They're genuinely just doing it wrong. Actual skill issue.

If there's one thing the arrowhead devs clearly are good at, it's accurately functional guns. they work like how suppressors actually work

[glacial light]

The very accurately functional sickle and eruptor

[strange vine]

well the problem is the suppressed guns arent actually that quiet, they just share the lowest tier of noise as with regular smgs and pistols

the suppressed pistol isnt any more quiet than the regular pistol

[knotty folio]

It's actually a typo, they've been dealing with Stalker lairs - they meant to say the bugs are stealthed

[glacial light]

Bugged stealth, now stalkers are fully invisible

[blissful sparrow]

i've played against planetside 2 stalker infiltrators. i can manage

[weary granite]

Those guys can be surprisingly noisy or terrifyingly silent.

There is no in between.

[terse shoal]

speaking as a former planetside 2 stalker infiltrator, we are always in your backline, and all your terminals belong to us

[unreal merlin]

I heard they're removing infiltrators from PS2. Yet another step of mismanaged development in the game's history.

[glacial light]

Inb4 the HD2 stalkers reset terminals

Those illegal broadcasts were in fact from bugs and they broadcasted conspiracy theories it's dissidents to discredit Super Earth

[terse shoal]

ah jesus why the fuck is that even necessary? not even like it's hard to notice infils, their invis is not absolute, you can see it, and their playstyles fit the class. the only thing even worth questioning is SMG infil. but sniper infil or stalker infil are just fine.

this is giving Heavies in TF2 complaining about Spies vibes.

[glacial light]

Everyone complains about spies in tf2, especially spies

[terse shoal]

oh yeah

but it's still just well i can't see them so it isn't fair. applies to both games tbh.

and in both games, it's a skill issue.

you didn't see an infil even though their invis isn't total invis and it's not hard to look for what that gives off, and you didn't see a spy because you didn't spycheck

[glacial light]

I quite liked them though I didn't play them , otherwise you get even worse choke point cause everyone is keeping watch over the doors and doing nothing else. Infiltrators help break that as even the knowledge of a terminal being hacked forces some defenders to turn around for once and make assaulting a base less of a painful thing

[terse shoal]

yes

and that was the point of both classes

disruption

inciting chaos in an otherwise order-focused meta

[glacial light]

I think it's only fair that if planetside 2 is removing units units then so does HD2 /s

[terse shoal]

oh don't say that lmao /j

[unreal merlin]

I'm of the opinion that infiltrators have kind of not had a real purpose for most of PS2's history. Good job, you hacked a weapon terminal. Good job, you sat on a ridge with a sniper rifle for 20 minutes. Good job, you ran around a base for a while and got a handful of cheap kills. I'd much rather there have been some kind of strategic impact that can be done. PS1 infiltrators had a host of stuff they could do that enabled others to do things like opening doors to compounds, but PS2 just doesn't have the structure to facilitate that kind of thing.

Not to mention the contentious topic of NS weapons/vehicles/operatives homogenizing every faction.

[terse shoal]

that is true i'll give you that

but the message at the end of the day is the same

disruption

you hacked their vehicle terminals, only Engie or another Infil could fix that

Sniping important picks in a push

backcapping points to distract the enemy

they're both situational, yes

but the situations present themselves surprisingly often

capping a point in an enemy base lessening the pressure on your team as some of their forces are diverted back to retaking the point and/or finding the Infil responsible

sure every class in PS2 can technically do that

but the Infil is the best equipped to do so

motion sensors can be very effective in both offensive and defensive situations

i mean i can't tell you how many armor columns my friends and i disrupted by hacking vehicle terminals and killing them before they got said armor columns

[graceful bluff]

I was extremely good at spotting cloaked infils and kept getting called a hacker for sniping em crossing no mans land lmao

[karmic prawn]

You think they'll remove Player 3 or Player 4 first?

[knotty folio]

I haven't played in a long time, but bolt-action infils were always kind of unhealthy due to the whole uncloak + headshot having a lower TTK in close range than most enemy weapons

But all the other flavours were fine

[glacial light]

Yes

[terse shoal]

yea bolting is a pain i'll give you that

i'm just personally affected by SMG infils a lot more, at least in my time playing lmao

[graceful bluff]

Also speaking of ps2, I still fuckin' love the revolver in that

it's such a neat concept

[terse shoal]

oh isn't that the preferred secondary of choice for every infil ever lmao

[graceful bluff]

trying to find a pic of its reload

[terse shoal]

also very applicable to light and heavy assault as well as engie and medic lmao

[graceful bluff]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwE626ZoDvw

half moon speedloaders are so neat

[terse shoal]

oh yep that's the one lmao

commish is one of the best secondaries period

[graceful bluff]

it oneshot on headshots iirc

and 2shot on body

[terse shoal]

and there's my point

[graceful bluff]

at least back when I played over a decade ago

[terse shoal]

oh it still was when i was playing about 3 years ago

[graceful bluff]

I also remember the hand crossbow also being funny

[terse shoal]

talk about a meta man

like the crossbow for medic(in TF2 lmao)

only a fool or a new player didn't equip it

[graceful bluff]

We loved running crossbow in the backline because of the low sound profile so you didn't really alert the pubby horde

[terse shoal]

is fun yes

but yeah commish was bar none the most equipped secondary in my tenure and yours lmao

[graceful bluff]

I still really want a non explosive crossbow in helldivers

[terse shoal]

just a crossbow in general lmao fair enough

[graceful bluff]

I mean there is a crossbow, it just fires rambo bolts :v

[terse shoal]

yea what i meant lol sry

[knotty folio]

Smoke crossbow would be amazing in HD2

Sensor darts would be fun as well

[terse shoal]

yee like the sensor gun for infil in PS2

[graceful bluff]

Eh you get that with the stealth sets anyway

[unreal merlin]

give me alt ammo types for my beloved crossbow

[glacial light]

The real stealth weapon

[north fiber]

Commissioner is a one shot head shot to specifically Infils, two shot for everyone else.

[north fiber]

I only seriously played SMG infil once with the Cyclone and I felt like just the biggest asshole in the world lmao

[knotty folio]

Maybe I should feel bad that the Blitz and Punisher were both in my top 3 weapons

[cobalt patrol]

Def no chance of issues ever.

Ever.

[hexed steeple]

the first is an evil and dark purple light and the other is a beautiful pure holy light. looks fine

[glad marsh]

Darkfluid vs lightfluid

-# What will they do when we introduce the genderfluid...

[ripe cloud]

Darkfluid versu blinker fluid

[steady flame]

Two things.
One: They said Infiltrator was being reworked, not removed.
Two: Thursday update announcement.

..As in, update on Thursday, they announced it today.

[stone bridge]

Wahey

[hexed steeple]

wahey

[shy sigil]

I remember some people saying that suddenly there will be a fully mechanized planet

Imafine the fucking bots coming up with their own deathstar after this

[cobalt patrol]

Right before the Great leak purge, there were some very interesting big leaks

Then Sony nuked the leaks discord

[stone bridge]

?

[karmic prawn]

Does that mean there might someday be the chance to invade a VERY large rolly polly bug?

[cobalt patrol]

Here be spoilers, be ye warned:

||cyborg enemies of both genders, and a version of the cyborg boss from hd1, much like how the hivelord made a comeback.

Also something and machine planets I think? Very unsure on that last one, by I've seen the models for the former||

[stone bridge]

neat

[cobalt patrol]

Obvs, like take with a grain of salt, there are a whole bunch of extra ||illuminate|| units in the game that haven't shown up yet, and some of them have been there for yonks to the point it's unclear if they got canned or not, while others keep getting actively updated.

So... ?????

[glacial light]

What are the odds illuminate come out of another gravity based anamoly we made? First time was probably just a fluke

[unreal merlin]

eager for the squids actually having a roster with more than 4 units sometime in the next two years

[glacial light]

I wish

[unreal merlin]

I want: that big stupid shield wall orb to come back
I do not want: that bastard mind-controller who inverts all your controls to come back

[glacial light]

They're probably my favorite faction design wise can you don't need to bring AT pen stuff at all, bots are my favorite in practice cause they got the unit variety as a launch faction. If illuminate had as many units and corps equivalent as bots I'd be a happy diver

[dark plover]

I like shelling squids from 500 meters away with the wasp

[verbal summit]

When I get tired of overseers I bring the wasp and then when I end up tired of the voteless I bring the maxigun

[glacial light]

I eruptor game even on illuminate and sniping fleshmobs and overseers feels great

[verbal summit]

That's fun tko

Too

[unreal merlin]

I miss my crossbow. Crazy suggestion: chainsaw vs squids

[glacial light]

Ive been a helldiver that runs one loadout, eruptor, warrant, warp pack

Warrant very nice for panic firing an eye thing I cant really see well

[verbal summit]

Warrant is the lock on one?

[glacial light]

Reloads pretty quick which was a big selling point and why I switched from talon

[verbal summit]

I've been using blitzer and laser pew pew pistol I forgor the name with either wasp or maxigun

[glacial light]

Yea its the auto lockon thhat fires in bursts of 3

[verbal summit]

I just blitz ones than triple tap with the pistol to make sure

Blitzer is such nice crowd control

[unreal merlin]

My favorite case for the Warrant is in bot-occupied megacities, since there's such a massive fraction of Raiders which you can two-tap with the auto-aim.

[glacial light]

Its very nice for shriekers too

[verbal summit]

But maybe I could bring the eruptor instead at least on the maxigun loadout n just use maxigun n pistol to deal with the small guys

[glacial light]

Just aim into a cloud and kill one withouth trying if its very foggy

[verbal summit]

I like to also run full arc builds at times

[glacial light]

Based

Arc dog calls to me

[verbal summit]

Then it's usually 1 different arc weapon each so blitzer, arcdog and arc grenade launched

With arc nades

[glacial light]

After playing around with like pummeler drum mag, halt, lib carbine drum mag I find blitzer is just my togo weapon for bugs if I am try harding

[verbal summit]

Yeah

I also like maxigun on bugs

And eruptor

[glacial light]

I run eruptor on bugs cause I just like it

I do want maxigun but unfortunate no SC and I dont grind

[verbal summit]

But eruptor kinda needs something like a hoverpack or me doing a melee build to work

Ah

Yeah I still need to grind some 500sc for the new warbond

[glacial light]

Right maxigun needs a backpack, I usually do warp pack for many reasons buut also for melee units as you can conga line melee, wait for them to start attacking then teleport away and fire shoot the group 10 feet away

[glacial light]

So I once again made an impulse purchase of a war bond solely based on one item. What armors do you guys run with maxi gun

I plan to run it on bots and illuminate

For bots probably also shield generator to plop down for safe gunning

[steady flame]

Erm, for bots I like Ballistic Padding or Fortified, but Unflinching, Peak Physique, or Rock Solid could be strong too for either faction, and for squids I would recommend either Engineering Kit or.. Democracy Protects actually is good if you're staying still.

Hope that helps!

[unreal merlin]

The ragdoll protection from the same warbond is quite nice for maxigun things, unsurprisingly. Heavy armors in general since you're likely to take more hits (stationary) but otherwise it doesn't really matter, personal preference / whatever helps your non-maxigun things.

[steady flame]

It also makes you slow as bricks, because, you know.

[unreal merlin]

I almost never use heavy armor cuz it makes me feel like a snail. I need to RUN

[glacial light]

It'll very much be a change for me, I usually run light medic

[oblique lotus]

recoil reduction is nice, heavy armor because stationary

[glacial light]

What do you do for heavies like factory striders

Or ig heavies+, also like war striders

[oblique lotus]

I run solo silo for fac striders and iirc rockets/500kg/thermite for war striders

[steady flame]

Oh, also, a good pairing with the Maxigun is the static shield bubble.

Though, the bot front is kinda the weakest front for the Maxigun, since so much heavy armour walks about.

[strange vine]

Yeah

And heavy devastators

[unreal merlin]

Anything that isn't a Hulk is solveable with Maxigun, but it does strongly outline the necessity of bringing solutions to that Heavy armor stuff (Hulks and larger). Even heavy devastators you can just hose their upper-left with the maxigun and it works fine to avoid the shield.

[agile fable]

heavy devys are only an issue if you cant tank that shit long enough to pop them

[cobalt patrol]

It's fine ,everyhting's fine

[agile fable]

Oh boy here we go

[verbal summit]

@lusty sigil we might be single celled organisms

[graceful bluff]

You're no longer allowed to complain about gatling turrets :v

[verbal summit]

I am a gatling turret

(Also that was fully on purpose from both of us, we shoot each other a lot. It's our love language.)

Also I fired the shot of instant anguish

And I forget what this clip is

[agile fable]

nearly a month until the anniversary of the ceasefire

[graceful bluff]

I do like the sound of the commando missions

[south temple]

“reinforcements deployed in advance” sounds intriguing

[graceful bluff]

Also still not sure if I'd prefer scout or the reduced signature passive

less noise when moving is useful, but losing the free uav?

[south temple]

the 10% bonus to detection speed is nice

[graceful bluff]

oh is the % known

I expected it to just be the same as scout

[south temple]

yeah i saw some leaks, iirc its 40%

[graceful bluff]

nice

[south temple]

combined with the ODST passive it seems like it’ll be pretty solid

more importantly the sets are drippy as fuck

[graceful bluff]

I do kinda wish the censor wasmedium pen

[south temple]

i prefer light pen tbh

[graceful bluff]

it's just gonna be a royal pain to use against squids at light

[south temple]

as a botdiver it lets me hit followup shots a lot easier

[graceful bluff]

though at least bipedal squids can't call in reinforcements

[south temple]

tru

[graceful bluff]

if the lure mine stats on the wiki are even remotely correct it's gonna be real funny though

12m radius

[south temple]

holy shit

[graceful bluff]

Despite its shape it is not a pizza, please do not cook the lure mine

[south temple]

2 hours and 15 minutes…

[graceful bluff]

I can't wait for the mods for the lure mine though

people are gonna mod in some real funny audio onto it I feel

[south temple]

i can only imagine

[graceful bluff]

do we know what the super store weapon is gonna be

[south temple]

no idea

[graceful bluff]

I loved the ticks

every game needs ticks

[trail creek]

chat I got my first new warbond

should I save my super credits or can I now buy myself a cosmetic i like

[spare verge]

Adjusted M-1000 Maxigun muzzle flash to reduce photosensitivity issues oh good

it was nigh unusable in first person

Reinforcements have to be deployed in advance I'm guessing this means they send down a bunch of hellpods at once and they only deploy the diver once someone dies?

[south temple]

well we’ll find out soon

[glacial light]

Or could there be a long delay after you call it in? The wording confuses me either way

Also Super Earth said no more large

[graceful bluff]

superstore item is a smoke grenade

if I had to guess, an impact smoke?

yeah an impact smoke

[blissful sparrow]

does the helldiver shout "Ninja vanish!" when you throw it?

[idle hollow]

no but they do shout pocket sand

https://tenor.com/view/king-of-the-hill-dale-gribble-pocket-sand-pocket-sand-gif-3699662