Helldivers 2: For Managed Democracy!

[cobalt patrol]

Amazing

I've been missing out, lol

(but also I'm just taking a break from the game, it'll be there when I'm bored of monster hunter and other games again)

[strange vine]

https://www.vxreddit.com/r/Helldivers/comments/1mcaker/this_is_canon_now_btw/

https://www.vxreddit.com/r/Helldivers/comments/1mc7ctl/the_state_of_claorell_the_past_few_days/

[quick plinth]

honestly, very fun-

more heavy enemies please!

[hazy oriole]

think i need to force myself off the jump pack for a bit, my positioning without it is noticably worse

at the same time though it's so bloody fun

[idle hollow]

bug mo i'm actually interested in because it's spore burst buges

[cobalt patrol]

Boo, i was haivng fun and then i CTD

also, i actualyl really like the Variable from some early play

[ionic holly]

Gatling barrage might be one of my new favorite stratagems

[grave sail]

https://youtu.be/uPGP-yOemAQ?si=yEG0Qkwafo4qzQc2

[weary granite]

This got a chuckle out of me

https://youtu.be/14XHL0JL6tE?si=MpFu5cXiMLGQU3H7

Hope it gets one out of all of you too

[ionic holly]

god i love mods

[ionic holly]

blegh.
someone got pissy over my loadout

Variable and peacemaker, went on some rant about light pen weapons being ass

[hazy oriole]

smfh i get it if someone asks you to swap booster but anyone who throws a fit over a loadout is stupid

[true seal]

Imagine trying to push meta in fucking helldivers 2

[burnt vapor]

I will never understand the idea that light pen is bad

[agile fable]

Some people cannot comprehend the idea of having fun

[terse shoal]

i like medium pen weapons more, but i don't mind peeps using light pen weapons tbh.

[warm flint]

light pen weapons can do great work, their dps and clear potential is very good

[unreal merlin]

light pen weapons dunk on lots of illuminate units (yes overseers included) and are serviceable vs both bots and bugs so any claims that they're bad can be attributed to "I don't like it therefore nobody can like it"

[burnt vapor]

Illuminate are great because by and large they don’t care about pen just shoot them more

[ionic holly]

Light pen slander usually comes from folk who don't properly get how much of certain enemies are actually armoured

[agile fable]

Simply just have good accuracy

[cobalt patrol]

That's legit why i prefer having medium pen, because I know while i'm solid hot, i'm not a precise shot

But it's still something you can work around

[agile fable]

I like fighting bots not because I’m robophobic but because I’m a bit of a crack shot and bot weakpoints are consistent

[graceful bluff]

Putting yes amounts of liberator carbine rounds into the vague area of their head until a few of them hit

[ionic holly]

Unironically this

it's a big reason i've been clicking with light pen more, i already go for heads on everything i might aswell just light pen

it also helps me make sure my aim stays strong

even if the variable is best used as a hail of bullets sometimes

[dusty spruce]

Been waiting for this supercity to be available

[odd arch]

pronounced larngoh

[glacial light]

The layers to the satire is peak
https://youtube.com/shorts/pVsCYGloAGo?si=tdM2pvxRMF9ctGOJ

[cobalt patrol]

I hate that I can't see if there are VA credits, so I'm automatically suspicious it's using ai generated voices

[hazy oriole]

this short's a clip from a larger video, the va's are credited there

[rotund marten]

getting back into diving after about a year

scorcher is just as I remembered it

beautiful perfect gun that shreds all before it (also hates you)

[karmic prawn]

I wish it had a punchier sound

But yeah very nice gun

[hazy oriole]

it's the first gun i got to level 25

[weary granite]

That one city has the name that makes me have a stroke every time I try to pronounce it.

Also, is it just me or are the Megacity bunkers broken? (Cannot pick stuff up when warping in with the backpack)

[cobalt patrol]

Thanks for sharing this, genuinely appreciated

[strange vine]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHxO0UdpoxM

[tardy onyx]

Oh my god you can Force-a-Nature jump with the Variable.

[graceful bluff]

primary jetpack

[ionic holly]

yep yep

mix that shit with the hover pack and you get some mileage

[tight zephyr]

Man, the Liberator Carbine is so basic but so much fun.

[strange vine]

I wish the spore burst subfaction (and other subfactions in general) had more unique skins for their units
Like how the incendiary corps had unique colors/models for all their non vehicle units
Like we already have the spore charger, just make a white and red colored one, add a few spikes, and change the fart cloud to yellow, and call it the spore burst charger

Make it replace all the regular chargers

Last night i also played an op where all the missions had the nursing spewer constellation
Which honestly it felt like it fit a lot with the subfaction's theme of visual obfuscation
Just give them a color rework as well and call them spore burst spewers

[tardy onyx]

FAN jumping aside the variable is fun. A shotgun mode and auto mode that on full fire rate almost makes it feel like a shoulder fire Gatling gun.

[tardy onyx]

Also got the totally not dredd set

[unreal merlin]

I tried using the Epoch vs bugs the other day, I kinda like it

[graceful bluff]

did they fix its bloom

[unreal merlin]

No

I do my best to acknowledge and look past the horrendous shot deviation, focusing instead on when it does actually work correctly

The ability to delete 2-3 brood commanders at once is not too shabby for how quickly it charges and how quickly you can put 3 charged shots out

Charger abdomen, impaler faces, bile titan abdomen, all great targets

For some reason it's not explosive enough to break open POI shipping crates

[royal lantern]

Yeah, I think once the Epoch's spread problem is fixed it will have a solid niche, it feels like a pretty high QoL, generalist stratagem weapon all told

It could probably stand to hit a little bit harder, comparing it to the Quasar specifically, but conceptually I really like it

[ionic holly]

hey question why is my HMG cracking BT armour

first couple times i thought it was coincidence but 5 separate instances with different groups is making me scratch my head

[hexed steeple]

cause it has a high enough armor penetration value to deal damage to bile titans on direct hits

[unreal merlin]

Bile Titans have an armor value of 4 and lots of breakable zones, HMG has bullets with AP4

[ionic holly]

Yeah but it shouldn't be like breaking their armour, no?

[unreal merlin]

I don't see why it wouldn't break the armor if you're doing enough damage with an appropriate AP weapon

[ionic holly]

Fair enough

Maybe i should just bring the HMG everywhere at this point

Also
a friend is deciding to make a custom armour set for me due to my birthday coming up so that'll be a fun mod

(i've tried to offer to pay them for the effort like 7 times now)

[strange vine]

the armor is just body parts with (usually) high armor values, BT armor is just AV4 with 100% durable and HMG has AP4, so while its damage is reduced by the high durability and same value armor penetration damage reduction itll still eventually break BT armor

[warm flint]

HMG for the win

I use that thing like a marksman rifle

[strange vine]

its very accurate for the first bullet

esp when prone

[ionic holly]

I've no real specific way to use, but it is one of the few support weapons i feel competent with

the others being the spear and wasp

[warm flint]

I like to take it in bots because its able to answer everything

usually I'll end up using it for anti air fire

[hearty pier]

My personal favourite HMG -> bots interaction is getting under a factory strider and shredding a door

[idle hollow]

How much longer on this MO

[tardy onyx]

The Knight is a very fun little bullet hose.

[strange vine]

Bout 57 hours

[tight zephyr]

I love the warp pack!

This thing whips ass!

[graceful bluff]

Didn't know it was winamp

[cobalt patrol]

Gas mines into b ugs is sucha good time

[weary granite]

Gas mines + Gas Grenades + Fire = nicely seasoned and cooked bugs. :]

[cobalt patrol]

I'm only seasoning mine

[graceful bluff]

gas mines in general are just great

even vs bots and squids

[unreal merlin]

gas in general is just great

I remember the early days when people would get upset if they saw me running orbital gas vs bots

They simply did not know

[ionic holly]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/410549934845329408/1401361394645073980/m2-res_360p.mp4?ex=6890a7c0&is=688f5640&hm=791fc4ab73260add581d09600b911598ce8a03d05dfd66295b2babab17522495&

[warm flint]

I've tried yesterday to play as a wizard
no support weapons, no backpack, all eagle

[strange vine]

EAT pro tip: When you take out an EAT, there's a half-second delay while you extend the weapon's tube and ready it for firing. If you drop that EAT while it's equipped and readied, it will remain readied even if someone picks it up again--unless they switch to their primary or secondary and put it on their back. On a defense or eradicate mission, or on any objective that requires some time to complete, you can call down a bunch of EATs in a small area and pull them all out of their pods one by one. They can be picked up again and fired immediately, without that obnoxious delay.

[steady flame]

Holy hell, 75% spread buff to the Epoch.

[stone bridge]

not a buff, a bugfix

the epoch had absurdly huge spread as a result of misplaced numbers, so now it's better

[cobalt patrol]

We won!

and it'll only get a few junior interns eaten

[hexed steeple]

was this the one where we had to kill 6 billion of everything or was that one already over

[karmic prawn]

It's a shame their eagerness and inexperience led to this (which is definitely not Super Earth's fault)

[cobalt patrol]

The nightmares one? that was over a while back. this was get 30 million rare samples and hold two planets

[hexed steeple]

did we complete that one

[warm flint]

we did, but they reduced the number of whales from 3 million to 650k

[hexed steeple]

that sounds reasonable

[odd arch]

so you can warp bail out of a car huh

another hype moment to the pile

[idle hollow]

oh wow i thought we were gonna lose this one

[strange vine]

"primarily with junior and intern scientists"
the expendables lmfao

[unreal merlin]

praise pilestedt, the epoch is fixed (moved a decimal place in the code numbers)

[unreal merlin]

Playing with the epoch for a bit, it's exactly like I thought it'd be with the fixed accuracy. A similar role of a quasar, but with faster charge time and faster refire time (since it's got no cooldown between shots).

More flexible in that you can use it for fighting most things including tanks, bile titans, and so on.

I recommend running Siege Ready armor + supply backpack to maximize ammo and reload speed. I've been running it alongside the Scorcher and that's done well too.

[graceful bluff]

I just wish they'd make the max charge a bit more sane

[unreal merlin]

new MO is out.

[dry canopy]

with the, uh, what?

[oblique hazel]

...excuse me arrowhead?

[stone bridge]

lmfao

okay yeah its not at all a mistake hahaha

SCARE TACTICS

[calm sorrel]

seriously? we're supposed to pick off the basic troops one by one with orbital strikes?

[dry canopy]

well, it does technically have an aoe...

[blissful sparrow]

MO: Fuck That Guy In Particular

[hearty pier]

The inverse of the whale hunting MO

A training exercise on all the things the railcannon will lock onto before a trooper

[cobalt patrol]

....10/10

[cobalt patrol]

"Additionally, in order to prove to the Automatons—and the Federation—that their brutish scare tactics are ineffective, the Helldivers are ordered to destroy the designated number of Automaton Conscripts with the Railcannon Stratagem."

[stone bridge]

?

yeah I know

[cobalt patrol]

Oh, i'm empahsizing your point 😄

[stone bridge]

ahhhhhhh

[cobalt patrol]

Brutish scare tactics: COMPLETE OVERKILL

[oblique hazel]

...are they at least giving everyone orbital railcannon for free rn?

[graceful bluff]

(I still want a lightning orbital)

[cobalt patrol]

NOPE

[unreal merlin]

After several missions on the bug front I am happy to conclude that the Epoch does, in fact, kind of fuck versus bugs.

• shoot charger butt once or head/leg twice consecutively to kill
• shoot bile titan underbelly once to turn off their ranged attack, consecutive hits on any part of them works pretty well
• hit impalers twice on a foreleg to kill at any time, a well placed face-shot (tentacles down) can also kill them in one hit
• instantly vaporizes alpha commanders and thus anything smaller than an alpha commander too (usually nets you 3-6 collateral kills due to the AOE)
  Remember that it cannot destroy bug nests or POI crates so bring appropriate grenades/stratagems to account for that. This isn't too much of an issue though.

[cobalt patrol]

I'm just now trying it on the bot front

and it seems pretty shiny

[unreal merlin]

Past experience vs bots it worked great for killing 3+ devastators at once, hulks to the face, and tanks/turrets to the vents. Objective things like mortars/AA guns can be hit anywhere.

It is NOT very great vs factory striders, but one headshot does break the armor so if you have a RR buddy they can just bop it on the noggin with one rocket instead of two

[cobalt patrol]

For factory stirders you justg have to hope they're not shooting you

if they are...

well

good luck!

It does pair real well with the warp pack

[cobalt patrol]

Okay, war striders are kinda obnxouis when there's no cover

[unreal merlin]

you can defang their chin guns with it at least :D

which tbh if that's all you do you're already winning vs the factory strider

a charged epoch shot (all of them should be charged tbh) is AP5 of 800 damage (400 durable). the explosion has a 3m radius of AP5 800 damage and a 4m outer radius with AP4 that falls off to 0 damage (799 - 0)

so direct hits are BEEFY

but then a Quasar is a direct AP6 of 2000 damage (2000 durable) so that's the bar it works under

[cobalt patrol]

it's still enough to drop a lot of things (most things) in one hit

also dear god teamates: SHOOT THE GUNSHIPS

it is not hard!

they're flying right there!

[unreal merlin]

yeah that's the thing, it does "less damage" except it's still more than enough to obliterate anything that isn't a severely hardened target

I do wish it were capable of destroying nests/fabricators/ships if you got into the weak spots though

oh

The weapon, however, has high damage and Armor AP5 Icon.png Anti-Tank I armor penetration when fully-charged, which is sufficient to destroy armor and health based structures such as Automaton Fabricators from the outside with 2 fully-charged shots.

[quick plinth]

https://www.rxddit.com/r/Helldivers/s/EpWTxFV7c9

[unreal merlin]

It looks like

• hold rmb to point laser
• release rmb and look away
• hipfire and rocket tracks what you pointed at in step 1

[quick plinth]

that's not how a laser designator works but alright AH

that means you can designate a target and just fire

honestly, makes the commando much more viable than when your missiles can be thrown off by your aim

[weary granite]

Discount Spear lookin ahh

[quick plinth]

theoretically it has better ammo economy than the spear if no CD increase modifiers are present

[cobalt patrol]

This seems to only be for non moving targets though

[strange vine]

yeah it doesnt work for moving ones

[graceful bluff]

It's a neat trick but there aren't really any uses for it

[quick plinth]

ah

then nevermind- I was under the impression I'd track moving targets too

[quick plinth]

all they really gotta do is just make the spear oneshot anything with the exception of the fac-strider

at least then it would be somewhat on par with the GR-8, considering it can only lock onto heavy targets, fabricators and some turret, lacks an HE mode

perhaps they could make it truly top attack? considering right now it essentially acts in direct attack mode

[warm flint]

it'd be great if you could set what it targets, like "all heavies", "really big heavies", etc fire mode
because it targeting bug commanders or bot walkers is something I don't like much

[quick plinth]

yeah the targeting on the brood commanders or striders/ref-striders is so wasteful when such enemies are best dealt with anti medium weaponry

[strange vine]

"top attack" doesnt do anything because heavies dont have weaker tops. Spear needs to do 6000 damage instead of 4000 so it can one shot Bile Titans from any angle instead of needing a head shot, and so it also has more potential damage than the RR because right now it has only 16000 total damage while the RR has 19200. For not only requiring a lock on but not being able to directly hit weak spots thats pathetic

In addition more things need to have AV6 so that the Spear's AP7 is actually worth something

The only enemy with AV6 are command bunkers

Tanks used to have AV6 on their hull and turret fronts so even RR needed 2 shots from the front (QC and EAT still hit the same breakpoints, Commando and AT Emplacement would need 3 shots from the front) but for some fucking reason they nerfed it to AV5.

[quick plinth]

the only reason I brought it up is that sometimes the spear will dunk itself into a tank hull necessitating a second shot rather than hitting the turret and killing it instantly, though I suppose with more damage it wouldn't really matter either way

in short I agree with you completely

[strange vine]

Tank hull only has 3000 HP meaning a Spear missile anywhere kills it in one shot.

Even hitting the tracks doesnt matter since it has 100% damage transfer to main

[quick plinth]

did just check their HP on the wiki and yeah it makes no sense
but I distinctly remember a tank surviving a hullshot, but that was also a while ago

[cobalt patrol]

Well

i am doing my part to get railcannon kills

[weary granite]

I want Wasp and Spear to do truly top down strikes for the visuals tbh.

Lookin kinda like a mini airstrike

[hazy oriole]

godspeed to you, personally im not willing to spend a strat slot for this

[cobalt patrol]

I got 10 in a single shot earlier!

Heavy Dev in a pack of troopers had a moment of "why am I glowing?"

And then he died

[hazy oriole]

nice job

I just hate the guided strats in general, the guidance is never reliable

[cobalt patrol]

Oh, agree, hard agree. I'm just willing to do my bit for the stupid meme

[quick plinth]

"Arrowhead, give me a laser designator for stratagems, and my life is yours!"
make it a backpack, make it so I have to deploy a tripod/go prone, I don't care, if it means I can guide an OPS or 110 rocketpods home to target, I'm sold.

[unreal merlin]

Make it a spinning chair like the AT Emplacement but instead of a cannon it has a laser designator and instead of being on the ground it's on top of a telescoping flag pole that puts you a good 10m into the air for elevated view

[quick plinth]

maybe even give it a lockon feature, so that the laser isnt entirely dependent on your fallible human aim.

though they'd need to refine lockon, perhaps a toggle between chaff and mediums / heavies

[unreal merlin]

My thought is of using the laser guidance to walk an orbital gatling around precisely instead of how it wanders unpredictably

[cobalt patrol]

OH NOOO

So, i discovered that you can dive off a platform for more range on a throw

and then warp pack back on

this looks sick as hell

However, doing it again to test when you arent paying attention and there's a temate

[warm flint]

this reminds me when we were fighting in the city, and half of the stratagems missed because they were shot at an angle

the top of that building deserved it tho

[graceful bluff]

Worst part is, there is a laser designator stratagem fully working in the files

it's the missile silo one

[unreal merlin]

From a gameplay angle that thing is kinda OP IIRC so like I'd understand if it were on hiatus while they figured out how to implement it in a way that doesn't make it an auto pick on every single bot mission

[verbal summit]

Unrelated but I wonder if the other factions will get their version of a leviathan

[warm flint]

isn't the factory strider kinda like that? I've never actually fought leviathans

[quick plinth]

a leviathan is basically an environmental effect for all you can do about them with randoms

expend 2/3 of an ATE? when there's a non zero chance another one is going to show up soon after?

sit on a resup with a spear? (hopefuly someone is loading you) probably your best bet

[supple siren]

It's truly so odd

It's not like when you delete a wave of Shriekers they instantly spawn the next

everything else has some leeway

[quick plinth]

too much work in random lobbies and the enemy can oneshot you

[supple siren]

/that said i did like them being prevalent during the super earth invasion

They Were Mad At Us

[quick plinth]

yeah that was cool but if the bugs were to get their big ones I'm not sure how arrowhead would handle that

[supple siren]

Hive Lords have been hinted at since the start, doesn't seem too complicated to have Big Worm

[quick plinth]

yeah but how's those gonna work

[warm flint]

factory strider, but even bigger, you gotta climb into it somehow

[supple siren]

just the level from AC6 with the city-sized walking mech

[strange vine]

The other versions of the Leviathan are the gunship patrols and shrieker patrols, tbh

[verbal summit]

Well not really imo

The gunship/shrieker equivalent are those strafing aircraft the illuminate have

[cobalt patrol]

My suspicion is that in practice it just ended up as a less fun, more awkward Commando

[wind arrow]

successful extrac...fuck

[true seal]

That’s insane

My dumbass friends and I detonate portable hellbombs inside the pelican all the time and haven’t died once, weird that hitting a drop ship would kill you

[weary granite]

Bruh, that bug is back?

Last I remember, that bug was on the Illuminate's territory

[graceful bluff]

It works because the dropship pushed you out of pelican

(At least it doesn't matter for samples or mission bonuses)

[cobalt patrol]

Orbital Railcannon just got it's cool down massively slashed

[hexed steeple]

:o

[weary granite]

What they should do is since it is free rn, they should have it prioritize troopers instead of the thicc boys

And by thicc boys I mean buildings

[graceful bluff]

permanently or temporarily

[cobalt patrol]

Temp thing for this mo

But it's like a 30s cool down with all upgrades, apparently

[cobalt patrol]

To e specific, it's a 150s reduction on cooldown time, limited to the current MO zone

It's pretty fun/funny, esp if you double up on ORCS and just have two laser beep y ou pals to use at will

[weary granite]

Uhhhhh, is anyone's Super Destroyer firing up their Warp Drives in reverse instead of forward?

[graceful bluff]

Don't worry, your pilot has just played a bit too much ace combat https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEayWUzg_6A

[unreal merlin]

holy shit

[cobalt patrol]

It is hilarious

Run two and you can cosntantly dial them in

Honestly, if theyp emrantly dropped ORCS and OPS to like... 45 second cooldown? 40 second? with all upgrades?

I'd not hate it at all

[idle hollow]

yummy

I love orbital rail cannon

It’s my panic button for sudden Hulks/Bile Titans/Chargers

[graceful bluff]

Just make the orbital rail cannon a revolver

lemme fan the hammer on some poor group

[strange vine]

https://www.rxddit.com/r/Helldivers/comments/1mknun5/we_took_your_suggestions_on_how_to_improve_the/

I like a lot of the concepts here, dont like the booster and the vehicle in the warbond

[verbal summit]

Is this like fanmade?

[graceful bluff]

yes, it's pretty common for people to make these

[verbal summit]

That siege lance looks really dope

[tight zephyr]

I’m not sure how far along we’re gonna get with this MO. It is, however, still very funny.

[unreal merlin]

"what if the railgun was a shoulder weapon?"

[verbal summit]

Well yeah with I assume higher damage

I don't like the way the railgun looks

This thing looks cooler

Therefore better

[ionic holly]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1044686842978652213/1403496702253600788/2025081.JPG?ex=6897c3a9&is=68967229&hm=77eb1dcc64042d0a3b5f83ed4595b0878cf086f5ed3c178ac22053285c26a851&

how many fuckin stims does one man need

[agile fable]

NOT ENOUGH

THEY WILL NOT REST UNTIL EVERY LIQUID IN THEIR BODY IS STIM FLUID

[sly girder]

all they could hear was "...more stims..."

[cobalt patrol]

That guy is using the stim pistol, so he's being a hero to the team

[ionic holly]

It also very much was just a bug a friend experienced to be fair

[ionic holly]

Honestly ive been enjoying bringing light pent stuff everywhere, presses me to aim better

[graceful bluff]

https://www.rxddit.com/r/Helldivers/comments/1mkm5or/recoils_you_in_reverse_too_oc/

I really want this lmao

[weary granite]

Recoils in reverse

Ah perfect. A speed boost.

[quick plinth]

I wish the stim pistol got the warrant's tracking

that's all it needs to be alright tbh, just a little help

[weary granite]

Yep, but Arrowhead seems to be more interested in patching inane stuff that doesn't really hurt us like the Warp Pack being used to escape the Pelican.

[stone bridge]

You do realise the guy working on bugfixing and the guy working on programming features aren't the same people, right?

[weary granite]

Yes I know, I'm attempting to meme.

I failed, as you can see.

[cobalt patrol]

Yeah, that comes off as just Arrowhead sucks, tbh..

And like, doesn't really hurt us (currently), it would not surprise me If it was potentially causing issues or otherwise

[rare nymph]

Man, I hate it when I lose connection to a squad and it just dumps me into a single player instance of the same map

Instantly kills the fun

[cobalt patrol]

You know

i'd really appreciate an imunity to knockdown while you are knockded down or similar

Or rather, an immunity/mercy invuln to ragdoll for a very short peroid while you've been ragdolled

[fringe quiver]

ye they should make it a new passive perk

since after 2 perks most of the perks are kinda meh

[cobalt patrol]

tbh, i think it should just be a default thing, it'd solve a lot of unpleasentess on teh bot front

War striders are real bad for chain juggling you =x

[fringe quiver]

yeh that sounds nice

thye should do it for the other factions too, EG bugs just splatter against you occasionally and illuminate just dive and whiff instead of always being accurate

[cobalt patrol]

I'm not sure what yo umean by dive and whiff/bugs just splatter?

tbh, i dont find any of the otehr factions irriating in the same way

my whole thing is don't take control away from me as a palyer

i dont mind the occsaionl knockdown etc

that's fine

But gettin g chain juggled etc is just relealy uinpleasnet, and warstriders feel a bit too much right now

[hazy oriole]

yeah, that and the fact that their TTK with non hard anti-tank weapons is a little annoying
like it's far from impossible but it's annoying to hit the joint ten times with an autocannon or AMR especially when ten billion other things are trying to kill you
at least my baby the railgun is still great but flexibility of support weapons on bots is a big part of why i like them

[cobalt patrol]

They are also part of the no tank/all the berserker constellation, which I think excerbates things - when you're already dealing with chainsaw hands, getting repeatedly ragdolled doesn't feel the best

[hazy oriole]

aw whaaaaaat!! that's a huge bummerino

not to mention on that constellation you'd normally get a break from running the hard at

[cobalt patrol]

The epoch at least deletes them pretty well

though i wish the Epoch's full charge was a little faster

[unreal merlin]

2x epoch to the groin fixes war striders pretty well

[hexed steeple]

did they fix the spread :o

[steady flame]

They did!

[quick plinth]

my only problem with the Epoch, is that in comparison to the Railgun, it's "highest damage window vs death" is very very slim

[ionic holly]

Something about the epoch makes me like it a ton even though realistically i do want a hair more out of it

[cobalt patrol]

They did, it's crazy accurate

[hexed steeple]

poggers

[cobalt patrol]

Main issue is it's a little finicky to get the full charge, and if you're not using the full charge, it's nowhere near as good

As the full charge bumps it to AP5, I think does something like double it's damage, and increases it's range.

You can core Hulks with full charge shots

[strange vine]

yeah like extra half second charge and maybe 1 extra round in the magazine

would be good buffs

[cobalt patrol]

Do you mean it taking charging longer, or just being able to hold the full power charge longer?

[strange vine]

extra grace period on max charge

[cobalt patrol]

For me, I wouldn't mind it being finicky if it just charged faster overall. Keep the current grace period, reduce the overall charge time

Right now it's just long enough to be really easily interrupted by a stray shot

[strange vine]

thats why i tend to run it with unflinching

[ionic holly]

unironically one extra round would be really nice

3 is just a weird count in my head for a magazine (or battery? thing?) that i can not ever remember to reload after 3 shots

[unreal merlin]

4 shots per mag would ne nice given how many enemies require 2 shots to kill

that's two fabricators, two war striders, between 2 - 4 hulks depending on accuracy

[cobalt patrol]

Super earth: super competent

Definitely haven't been obliterated by my own/my teammates rail strikes either

[ionic holly]

I mean going off of the ship upgrades there's a lot of things that are just slowed down by bureaucracy or the likes

[supple siren]

I assume the waiting period is to offset the price of the Big Giant Bullet

[ionic holly]

Iunno how much price plays into it

the apollonian armour supposedly costs about as much as a megacity, wether that means megacities are relatively cheap or that the armour is that costly, and prone to being fuckin destroyed

[rare nymph]

Just had a game with randoms where we all did the bow emote upon returning to the ship

Turns out everyone had their victory emote set to random

[ionic holly]

Love to see it

[hazy oriole]

ngl i hope in the next health patch of the game they do something about visual clarity and especially the bloody glare

on bots sometimes it feels impossible to see shit through all the red

it may just be my eyes being sensitive today due to a lot of computer work, but uuuugg

[quick plinth]

https://youtu.be/Xw1IeMhJI3E

watch for the post credits scene

[agile fable]

On my birthday????

[graceful bluff]

I saw this but didn't click on it and went "oh I should post this with the song" and then those fuckers did it for me :v

[graceful bluff]

it being at 1:17 is just chefs kiss

[ionic holly]

wait no there's no way right

[hexed steeple]

no clue what the post credits is supopsed to imply

[split parcel]

Assuming it's ODST armor

[strange vine]

prolly odst collab?

[ionic holly]

Hopefully a collab and not just a reference

[graceful bluff]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWh9l8RSkPk

[ionic holly]

it would be so mean if this is just a reference

[graceful bluff]

Pilestedt has also previously gone on record saying that they'd be fine with an ODST collab just not a master chief collab

[ionic holly]

Makes sense

even if it's just no name spartans it sorta defeats the point of how expendable helldivers are meant to be seen

[graceful bluff]

There's also the amount of red tape they'd have to go through legal with just to use that short sample

[steady flame]

Yeah, that's not a Sony-owned song, that's a Microsoft-owned song. You don't use someone else's song like that.. Unless you've gotten their permission, and at that point.. You're going all in.

[ionic holly]

Like said that's absolutely the hope i'm just eh

[winter shuttle]

LETS FUCKING GOOOO

[ionic holly]

Keeping my expectations in line

[winter shuttle]

26 is the day

[quick crown]

god i fucking

Ascended when i heard that sax and saw the rain

[steady flame]

Whereas it went straight over my head (never played Halo 3) and er, went to the comments. Everyone is freaking out.

I also discovered that it's the song that Spookston uses a lot.

[idle hollow]

i want to post a video of something Very Interesting related to the new trailer but alas it's on tw*tter

#1204540628751356014 message

it's this, reverse it

||It's fucking Vergil from ODST||

[civic apex]

ye

it do be virgil

[rotund marten]

man, am I rusty

I remember being good at this game and now I'm getting routed by one or two angry hulks when I'm not carrying a dedicated AT weapon

going to have to get back on the habit of sprinkling a good number of EATs randomly across the map like breadcrumbs

[cobalt patrol]

I am trying to rember when you last played

Or that i saw

it has been A Long Time

[rotund marten]

north of a year, judging my my posts in here, I looked myself up to check exactly that

got distracted with work, then Darktide, then Exalted 3rd Edition, which is one of those games that is capable of occupying your entire brain

luckily I still have the muscle memory for both Reinforce and 500KG

and I'm sure the fancy footwork will come back shortly

[cobalt patrol]

So quite possibly you havent played since before the 60 day patch

whcih changed a lot of stuff

[rotund marten]

google tells me that was october '24, so no, I haven't

I only learned about the flak/high explosive alt ammo this morning

[cobalt patrol]

RR also has alternate ammo - HE as well as HEAT

[rotund marten]

hunters no longer swarming you quite so brutally is much appreciated

[cobalt patrol]

HE is anti crowd. It's not super useful, but sometimes you just need to make a squad of devastators not be there any more.

At which point it is immensly useful

[rotund marten]

good to know

grenade launcher/scorcher has been serving me very well so far

I just need something to put down the bot sectopod-looking-things and hulks slightly more efficiently

[cobalt patrol]

Purfier got a huge glow up btw

It now can be fired ala the Scorcher, or you can charge it up to fire very nasty blasts.

There's very few "Bad" weapons now

[rotund marten]

I think the Purifier actually post-dates my original span with this game, I don't actually have that warbond yet

I'll have to give it a go

[cobalt patrol]

(plenty of 'This doesnt mesh with your playstyle weapons)

[cobalt patrol]

Sentaor has AP5 now. Just so you know

Senator*

and feel like shooting out hulk eyes with it.

[rotund marten]

what, the revolver?

[cobalt patrol]

Yup.

[rotund marten]

I did not notice that

has been my standard sidearm since forever, I just didn't bother pointing it at hulks

[cobalt patrol]

If you've good aim and a steady hand, it's a meance.

[rotund marten]

still haven't tried the illuminate on for size, but I'm more or less used to diff 8 bots/bugs again

[royal lantern]

The new big striders for the bots can be shot in the groin and hips pretty effectively by a lot of weapons, thankfully

I'm honestly partial to the Commando on the bot front, since with good aim you can one tap war striders if you get them in the little crotch joints

[rotund marten]

yeah, I need to learn how to kill factory striders properly, I'm stil burning all my cooldowns on them rather than shooting for weak points

[cobalt patrol]

Oh man, you have missed so many good warbonds.

Some highlights -

The western themed one has an amazing gun in the deadeye, an amazing side arm (Talon, basically a laser version of the VErdict/Senator). ALso a hoverpack (Like jetpack, but you stay airborne at a fixed hight so you can reingn death for a while), and a funny grenade

POlar Patriot's guns are basically all good now, with Verdict and Purifier being the real standouts.

The sacrifice warbond has a portable hellbomb. As in, a backpack. That you arm. while wearing it. (And then run like buggery before it goes off, or just run into the enemies while wearing it). Also a pocket bomb in the Ultimatium

The urban conflcit? whatever warbond, i cannot rember names has the FRV, which is an actual vehicle you and your squaddies can drive. Good armor passive too, that gives more ammo to all guns (That don't come with a backpack), and faster reload speed to primary weapons

[cobalt patrol]

Factory striders: Eye on the head, belly.

Those are the actual weakpoints.

RR kills them in two shots to the same place anywhere, or one to the eye, or one in the belly.

The leg joints are techincally weak points, but it turned out RR being able to delete factory striders by shooting the leggy was A Bad Thing

tbh, mnost of Factory Strider's threat is their machineguns on the chin - take those out and they're still a pain (Because of hte cannon and spewing devs everywhere), but they won't be evaporating you

[rotund marten]

the portable hellbomb and the car I have been introduced to

and understood, go for the eyes

I have 950 super credits so I'll pick some of the new stuff up shortly

although I am waiting to see what all the hype is about from the new trailers

[cobalt patrol]

Well, it's coming to Xbox

and they seem to be hinting pretty hard at a crossover with halo

and ODST specifically.

[rotund marten]

my old policy of all light armour all the time appears to be less suicidal, which is nice

[cobalt patrol]

or Belly. The belly is really good

[cobalt patrol]

Armor is in a generally better place - i actually run Medium + extra armor on the bot fornt, because Medium mobility while being in heavy armor equiv lets you get away with a lot of shit.

(notably, anything beyond 100 armor is resistant to headshots, which cuts out a lot of ":what just killed me")

[rotund marten]

oh, I did not know that, I will give my comically hi-vis suit a try

[royal lantern]

I think Polar Patriots is probably one of the better warbonds for bang for your SC buck, at least as far as weapons go. The thought crime one also has three amazing weapons

The Urban one also has the anti-tank emplacement stratagem which is really fantastic

[hallow gorge]

Anti tank emplacement is so good

[rotund marten]

thermite and grenade pistol appeal to me as convenient backups, but I was tempted when I saw the AT emplacement kersplode three striders

[hallow gorge]

And yeah polar patriots is awesome despite it kinda being the reason for the change in warbonds

On release it was awful though

[rotund marten]

I will give the medium+ armour a go, thank you for the recommendation

I'm even goldier than I imagined

[royal lantern]

They're both very solid as quick problem solvers, the grenade pistol to close bug holes and destroy fabricators, and the other weapons in Demo Deto are also good. The eruptor is only alright at the moment but the crossbow is probably the top tier of primaries

[hearty pier]

If you don't have it yet democratic detonation has a lot of excellent glue for builds. Thermites giving you AT in the grenade slot helps most builds and the grenade pistol makes closing spawners trivial for builds that otherwise struggle to do so

Doesn't hurt that the primaries are all good fun to use

[rotund marten]

thank you for the tips earlier, polished off a factory strider with Dominator + impact nades to the belly and got a hulk with the revolver

took me a minute to get the hang of the Dominator again but once I realised it one-tapped Devastators to the head I really started warming up to the thing

[rotund marten]

wow, the revolver is actually really good at this

I had assumed it was an emergency option, but I'm killing hulks in one magazine

[rotund marten]

a brief wiki walk has enlightened me as to what I can shoot with what these days, except for the Illuminate who I am leaving as a wonderful mystery

[tight zephyr]

Was not expecting P.O.D. in that trailer.

[cobalt patrol]

Other stuff with warbonds:

Freedom's flame has a primary flamethrower, which is also AP4. Cookout is nice too.

Chemical Agents is mostly for fun, but Gas Dog is seriously good CC on the bot front, and Gas Grenades are probably the outright best grenade in the game (Being gas strikes in a can). Gas acrtually got redone, it applies a CC effect now - enemies get confused, will attack each other/random shit, instead of y ou.

Truth Enforcers has some nice guns, @stone bridge loves the Halt and will sing it's praises (Modal shotgun that has CC stun rounds or AP3 kill rounds). Reprimand and Loyalist (a pocket Purifier) are also solid.

New Control Group warbond is very, very good. Warp pack is the absoloute stnadout, but Variable and Epoch are both great, and Arc Grenades are pretty potent(ly dangerous for everyone)

Urband Legends is not the FRV, but also has the AT Emplacement which is insanely good. Directional shield and stun lance are fun, but not my jam

Viper commandos has the best non-holy trinity booster (Experimental Infusion - holy Trinity is Health/Supplies/Stam). Everything else is Nice To Haves, though the armor passive is genuinely very good, and the knives are a fun stealth kill option (Grenade replacement, have 20, do big damage chucking em into thing's skulls). Lib Carbine really shines with the weapon mod system and is a great anti-squid option

[burnt vapor]

I can vouch for the lib carbine being great once you get a fore grip on it to control the recoil

[rotund marten]

well, I need a replacement for this Liberator Penetrator that does functionally nothing

perhaps I am just addicted to Big Primaries but so far dominator and scorcher are leading in my estimates

too many bot helldives

[verbal summit]

I love going stun lance n ballistic shield on the bug front

Also I wish directional shield was better in some way cus it just really doesn't feel worth using

[burnt vapor]

The fact that it requires an arm to use rather then being a backpack makes it so much worse.

I wish it worked like it did in the first game where it was just a backpack that projected a shield in front of you.

[idle hollow]

we're making jurassic park

again

[ionic holly]

Oh good

[supple siren]

we're goin' back to the island

[weary granite]

Bugrassic Park

[cobalt patrol]

You will really like the Purfifer and the Deadeye when you get them, i think

Deadeye is a rounds reload primary with ap 3, that's well, dead accruate, has immense stagger, and a high damage shell that just splatters skulls.

You can drop everything that's not a hulk or heavier in a single shot on the bot front

[rotund marten]

First warbond is going to be Democratic Detonation because I like the look of basically everything there, but I think the Purifier is next

Giving the plasma punisher another try now

[cobalt patrol]

It's solid, but i think it falls off in diff 8+

Esp on the b ot front where Striders get replaced by Rocekt Striders

[rotund marten]

it definitely seems better than it used to be

I am enjoying the big chunky energy weapons, I'm hoping the Adjudicator will give me a staple weapon that is both beefy and actually uses bullets

[royal lantern]

The plasma punisher, imo, actually shines best against the Illuminate

[royal lantern]

Tbh almost nothing can seperate me from the dominator on the bot front, it's just so satisfying

And with weapon customization you can bump up the ergonomics some so it feels less like driving a tank

[cobalt patrol]

Def look into the Deadeye and the Variable whe nyou can get them.

Epoch on the bug front is good

[steady flame]

I've realised why I love the Eruptor so much. Also, I've found that I actually don't like the Epoch now, it feels.. Inconsistent for no reason?

Somehow it feels less effective.

[quick plinth]

I used to swear by the dominator but these days something about it's ergonomics just feels real awful

[steady flame]

Maybe I just need my RR back.

Or maybe the AC. Probably RR.

[quick plinth]

for me it's the fact that the "optimal" charge percent is so slim that I find myself 'sploded more often than not

granted with the railgun a split second distraction while charging can and will blow you up

but with the epoch that aspect is so much more punishing

[cobalt patrol]

You really have to nail the full charges, and whiffing those just gives you a slightly stronger plasma punisher

[steady flame]

Wait, does it still increase damage after the little plasma expulsion animation?

[cobalt patrol]

If you fire it at near full charge, when it's beeping, it has AP5, more damage, and a bigger aoe

And by more damage, I mean double the damage

[royal lantern]

In my experience the Epoch just isn't useful enough at any one thing.

[rotund marten]

tried the frag autocannon out

hello frag autocannon

I like you

finally, I get something that just sweeps bug nests

[verbal summit]

It just doesn't feel very good

[cobalt patrol]

Today i learned: Yo ucan get killled by a teamate overloading their Epoch

[supple siren]

You can kill a whole squad! I learned this from nowhere and nothing happened

[cobalt patrol]

It's great when knowledge just appears in your head

[hexed steeple]

it was revealed in a dream

[harsh kayak]

You can even cite dreams in papers

[tight zephyr]

Could always pair the Eruptor with one of the Peak Physique armors.

[strange vine]

my leviathan rework would be

• buff the bombs to be the primary threat (same firepower as a 380 and constantly dropping them), while the guns have much nerfed fire rate and reduced lock on distance
• make them a side objective, have 1 or 2 of them hover over a colony bombing the shit out of them and you have to destroy them, the same way you have a factory strider convoy. This makes spending the time to burn them down worth it
• make their behavior such that when you aggro it, it abandons its position to try and bomb the fuck out of you, with the cannons just trying to harass you mostly

[cobalt patrol]

The fact they just fly around randomly is a huge part of why they suck, yeah

also the Warp pack is so much fun

esp when you telefrag things

less when you accidnetally telefrag yourself???

Much funnier when you accidnetally telefrag a teamamate

[strange vine]

i once teleported through an outpost wall and then telefragged my friend

[cobalt patrol]

My best is figuring out i coudl dive throw something off a cliff, then teleport back to saftey

repeating this to test it

and having my teamate explode all over me during said test

[ionic holly]

I still think my best was borrowing someone else's warp pack with the comment "i'll return it" and just bum rushing some left behind samples mid extract, got back with time to left and immediately dropped the pack infront of the player

that or when i had my own, rushed a last minute gunship fab, mid hellbomb arm someone got into the extract shuttle (on accident) so now i had to fucking book it and
man
i was never more glad to know my cooldowns exact

literally made it onto the shuttle at 00.00

[unreal merlin]

I love using the warp pack to be a fast-mover and blitzing through a half dozen of POIs

[split parcel]

the first time i used it to cancel fall damage i had an anton ego ratatouille moment of playing world of warcraft as a teenager and using blink to survive lethal falls

[unreal merlin]

Much as I'd like to do that, a lot of my "i would like to negate this fall damage" jumps are high enough that I go into freefall and lose control :(

[cobalt patrol]

See, i used the shaman methodology.

...Which once let me kill a much higher level pvper, who jumped after me for some reason

then sat to eat next to my corpse

[split parcel]

activating water walking for your team right as they were jumping off a mountain into a lake?

[cobalt patrol]

and got a very big surprise when i suddenly ressed and crushed their skull in between my maces

[cobalt patrol]

I mean, i did that more as death knight

Water is hard when you fall from a height, fuckers.

[cobalt patrol]

Oh, right @rotund marten One big thing to know:

They changed how items spawn in bunkers/double doors.

It used to be they were visible, but not interactable uintil you opened the door.

Now they're always interactable. This exists just so warp pack users can jump through the d oor and grab stuff!

...also you can clip through the door using the exo suits, apparently.

[verbal summit]

Another method which we moreso found out about cus it was funny is to dive into the door while someone else explodes that forklift they have at the bunker

But then there's no way out

And it's more of a gamble of whether it works

N even when it works sometimes it shoots your body too far n you clip through the entire bucker n float to the surface on the other side

[odd arch]

budget warp

[cobalt patrol]

Excellent flawless showing from me in that mission as i epoch myself out of existance twice, die to my own warp pack at least twice, and step on at lkeast two mines

[verbal summit]

Since I stopped playing as much my luck must've transferred to you

[rotund marten]

we fight for New Cymru, apparently

[agile fable]

Forgot that was a real city name for a sec and thought it was a bug

[rotund marten]

democratic detonation obtained

thermite/eruptor/smg is a fun time, even if I have accidentally popped a few teammates with the frag

[cobalt patrol]

NGL, a rainbow Helldiver armor would be nice

[rotund marten]

decided to get my first experience of the squids on Diff 10

honestly was not so bad, my biggest problem other than the occasional flesh mob chokeslam was getting lost in the maze of dark city blocks with blue glowy things everywhere

might be more fun in slightly more open terrain

[idle hollow]

cymru newydd you mean

[glacial light]

https://www.rxddit.com/r/Helldivers/s/x1L3Xtowem

[unreal merlin]

Fresh out of one of those rando missions where everything goes wrong constantly, and there's exactly zero team synergy or coordination. Exasperating.

[verbal summit]

Lol

Those are amazing missions

[unreal merlin]

When half my deaths are from teammate negligence, I don't feel like agreeing with that

[verbal summit]

Well amazing in the sense it amazes me how some missions can be so awful

[cobalt patrol]

Main issue with squiddies right now is lack of unit variety. They really need more

[glad marsh]

They're still missing like.. 3 different units at the very least

Hiding in the files somewhere

[warm flint]

they can get more units when we get dedicated anti-air so that I can sleep soundly at night

every time we've tried to make a defense mission against them it has been impossible

[quick plinth]

||we've had leaks of potentially more annoying Illuminate units||
there's definetly more squids coming

[warm flint]

they break line of sight too much
between the flying overseers and their grenades, the mortar shot guys, and the stingrays its really hard to hold a position against them

[verbal summit]

The fliers are the single unit that annoys me so much on the illuminate front

They're just awful I hate them raaaghh

[rotund marten]

I'm still learning where to stand and how to dodge, so I'm sure my survivability will increase significantly once I know what I'm doing against them, but most of my deaths so far are to surprise stingrays, fleshmobs and getting stuck in a voteless pack

the flying and artillery overseers are annoying but not that lethal in comparison and the tripods seem to die easily

[warm flint]

in normal missions they're more manageable, but in defense mission they're very hard to fight against

[ionic holly]

My survivability is about the same for each front, probably why i've no strong disdain for any of em

bugs sometimes get on my nerves but that's just because i'm a stubborn heavy armour user

[warm flint]

we can clean level 10 defense missions against anything else just with 4 mines per player

but not on squids

[cobalt patrol]

Hilariously, the variable can delete Harvies.
Harvies are just fun to kill point blank. @sage plume can confirm my ability to drop them with cross map RR shots

Often to Wizard's surprise/pleasure when the Harvey menacing him just fell over. (200m away, a penguin reloads)

[rotund marten]

I have enjoyed sticking them with thermite and then watching them burn out even with their shields back at full

[cobalt patrol]

Then bring not mines? Like bring shield gens and AT emplacements, etc

[rotund marten]

Eruptor has been carrying my anti-Overseer efforts, I'll have to give turrets for clearing Voteless more of a try

and probably pick the variable up once I have enough SC for my next warbond, since I'm only at 500 right now

[cobalt patrol]

Overseers are ablative armor, as an aside - ap3 can pop their skulls, but anything that's ap2 can just bullet hose their body to expose the delicious squid flesh, then kill them very fast

Mg turret kicks arse on the squid front as a result

(actually mg turret is just really good disposable fire support/anti medium & chaff)

Flak auto cannon also two shots overseers, as long as the first shot impacts the body (and shatters the armor). Just a really good gun all around on the squid front

[sage plume]

Oh indeed very nice to see them just jiggle into the stratosphere

[warm flint]

we did, but its still way harder than the other factions

my friends are traumatized by this and refuse to dive on their front

[warm flint]

I found the stalwart to work pretty well against them, you just gotta shoot them until they die, simple as

[cobalt patrol]

Yup yup, any bullet hose does very well into squids.

[karmic prawn]

I also recommend the bubble shield and light armour for learning squids

It means you can outrun voteless and fleshmobs while also being able to take a fair few hits

My go-to for the invasion of super earth was that plus eruptor, talon and the medium machine gun

[ivory swallow]

About how quickly can you farm super credits?

[split parcel]

With a dedicated team maybe around 800 an hour I think?

[strange vine]

do gotta remember thats basically less than minimum wage too :P

i dont want to discourage people from farming if they want/need to ofc

but dont burn yourself out on it

[ivory swallow]

That’s

Really good tbh

Isn’t stalwart + eruptor a popular combo?

[glad marsh]

We've managed 600-1000 an hour here before

We uh
Had a really long session at one point

[rotund marten]

I would like to do some credits grinding at some point soon

need to get a couple more warbonds going now I'm back

[unreal merlin]

stalwart-eruptor is a good pairing of weapons, you run around using stalwart as the "primary"

[ivory swallow]

Yeah

I guess if you wanted to flip it on its head you would do like

Lib carbine + amr?

But, I’d be down to play sometime

SC grinding or not

[unreal merlin]

AMR is secretly great for SC farming because one bullet pops open the POI crates, and then you can run your choice of backpack with it (warp, jump, supply)

[ivory swallow]

i mean for general use

[rotund marten]

personaly I tend to go Grenade Launcher/jump pack, although the grenades do tend to set the POI crates on fire so you have to wait a few seconds there, AMR is perhaps mildly more efficient for SC farming there

and I'd run warp pack if I had it, just so I don't have to call someone over to pop open bunkers

[verbal summit]

Most games that allow you to grind premium resources have even more minimum wage grinds tbh

[strange vine]

https://www.nexusmods.com/helldivers2/mods/650
https://youtu.be/LoypgoNJSOY

[ivory swallow]

<@&1206091872716595200> anyone wanna play? could do nomral matches or SC farm

[rotund marten]

I'll be around to farm some credits in a few minutes

[ivory swallow]

Ok

[ivory swallow]

Still good?

[rotund marten]

yeah, as usual dishes are taking rather longer than I expected

OK, six people's dishes done, ready to go

<@&1206091872716595200> anyone down for some runs or some credit farming

[ivory swallow]

(fanmade)

this would get my ass

[fringe quiver]

oh I thought that was official

rip

[hallow gorge]

Ok the idea of the t bag emote is actually genius lol

[graceful bluff]

I only want one thing from the ODST warbond

An armor lock emote https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s331mMaR2zg

I don't care if it doesn't make you immortal, because armor lock didn't really either :v

[unreal merlin]

I'm anticipating an armor that gives the -30% detection and another useful bonus. I WANT my sneaky weapons, dang it

[graceful bluff]

I just want heavy sneaking armor already

[tardy onyx]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kb3CiujrdGU

[graceful bluff]

skeleton soldier mentioned

[stark ether]

just have it give a 10s delay on all damage

[rotund marten]

<@&1206091872716595200> I need 20 minutes to get a drink and do the dishes, but does anyone want to play Charger Dodgems with me shortly?

[burnt vapor]

I’m up for it

[cobalt patrol]

omg, that sounds amazing

[rotund marten]

do exosuits still get instantly owned by chargers?

[heady halo]

we need a melee exosuit thats an iron wall against chargers

[burnt vapor]

We need the Lumberer

[ivory swallow]

Oh no

im in

[cobalt patrol]

Hmm

I cannot see that modifier in game

[rotund marten]

the helldivers companion webapp has it, and the reddit has a bunch of screenshots of various mods/devs going "surprise, planet X has a charger problem"

worth an exploratory dive, I think

will have to be diff 6, since normal chargers don't spawn higher

[rotund marten]

ok, ready to go momentarily

[cobalt patrol]

I'll pass for now, asi 'm expecting a cleaner around soon, and need to be around for that

[ivory swallow]

anyone else?

@cosmic stream

[unreal merlin]

give me a PTX-140, please

[cobalt patrol]

Zheng when

[rotund marten]

charger dodgems report: more chargers

not an absurd number of chargers, though

felt more like an 8 than a 6 but I was slightly disappointed, I was faintly hoping for "Bug Breach: Literally Just Six Chargers"

[unreal merlin]

frankly on second thought, the PTX-140 is genuinely just an Everest with HMG/RPG/Chain Axe

[strange vine]

they do, they just have to compete with the variants for spawnrate

[tight zephyr]

I killed like thirty goddamn chargers today.

[verbal summit]

Ride the chargers like a cowboy/girl/person

And then stick a flag in em

[cobalt patrol]

We're goping to miss by minutes =x

[stone bridge]

we won

[burnt vapor]

Never doubt the warriors of liberty

[cobalt patrol]

...how. They must have fudged it

because we were 50k short at 12 minutes remaining

Oh, yup, they did fudge it

https://i.redd.it/2tzg387eyxjf1.jpeg

[stone bridge]

Good work Tyranny Park 2

[cobalt patrol]

Not gonna complain though, it was fing stupid that it was just 5 mill chargers, and not any spore/behemoth chargers

[unreal merlin]

OH
spores/behemoths didn't count?

[cobalt patrol]

Nope. Something to do with their code, it only counted plain chargers, there apprently isant a way to group them for some reason

(For the purposes of mos)

[unreal merlin]

Yeah okay the fudging is justified then because otherwise 99% of my charger contribution wouldn't have counted.

[weary granite]

How the fuck did we win that?

[unreal merlin]

The numbers were fudged because all the spore/behemoth chargers weren't being counted.

So they said "okay you're not supposed to fail this one so yaaay you win"

[agile fable]

Feels a bit cheap but hey, you know how it is

[cobalt patrol]

Massive boost in charger numbers today + fudging right at the end with an in universe "oh you got enough charger eggs we'll change the exhibit plans"

We were 50k charger kills away at 12 minutes remaining

[unreal merlin]

I guarantee if the higher tier chargers had been counted there wouldn't have been remotely a close call

next time add parentheses ("not variant chargers")

[cobalt patrol]

Next time have objectives that let players play on high difficulties -.-

[hexed steeple]

tyranny park as a new map type when...

[cobalt patrol]

(tbh, I don't actually like Chargers being universally replaced by behemoths at ten. Gimme a behemoth and a couple of normals)

[unreal merlin]

just replace hive guards with normal chargers

[cobalt patrol]

I honestly wouldn't mind a more advanced hive guard that's in-between current ones and chargers?

My main objections is I just dislike full replacing any unit. Have normal striders with rocket Striders, etc

[steady flame]

Whelp there's the announcement.

..Oh, it has an X link in it. BEGONE, FASH!

Anyway. ODST Legendary Warbond dropping on the 26th.

[idle hollow]

odst armour, recon armour, assault rifle, SMG, shotgun, odst pistol

[sweet surge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2O_9hwQ8jLw

[idle hollow]

just wish the skins were actual model changes

for an actual pelican, warthog, mantis and SOIEV

[steady flame]

That. Is very fair.

[fringe quiver]

Invincible legs 🦵

[steady flame]

I do wonder what Feet First does.

Also I hope the guns can play nice with attachments.

[fringe quiver]

Invincible leg

[steady flame]

Invincible leg.

[warm flint]

Invincible leg.

[hexed steeple]

Invincible leg.

[kind cloud]

ODST IS REAL

[unreal merlin]

Smg and pistol have suppressors let's go

[warm flint]

we're so back

[idle hollow]

wish that we got suppressors for other weapons and not just two stuck in a warbond

[warm flint]

supressed Eruptor

[cobalt patrol]

1.5k super credits, that's pretty reasonable

[cobalt patrol]

Wouldn't be surprised if that's in the pipe

[steady flame]

Stealthdivers are so back I take it?

[cobalt patrol]

Always have been

[quick crown]

I can't wait to hear that rifle sound again in co-op

Also the Socom which was always my favorite

So excited

[strange vine]

https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/553850/view/812455995175338925?l=english

[lilac yoke]

immune to leg injuries? Holy shit, I'd want that even if it wasn't odst gear

[verbal summit]

Oh that's crazy cool

[verbal summit]

I suspect we'll get them eventually.

[sweet surge]

I'll have to see the stats but I'm excited for the guns

They are probably not going to be customizable though

Which I'm fine with but I know some won't be

[lilac yoke]

So surprisingly a stealth war bond for a good amount of it

Huh

[wide star]

is there actually anything unique about the weapons in this warbond or is it pretty much exclusively fanservice?

[strange vine]

confirmed theyre not

[strange vine]

smg and pistol are silenced, AR has an ammo counter and compass

[steady flame]

Aww.

skaianDestiny ↩️

[Reply to:](#1204832579287519292 message) confirmed theyre not

[civic apex]

https://youtu.be/s4skV9c0bKc

[idle hollow]

you've heard of kill six billion demons now get ready for kill six billion terminids

[steady flame]

I was thinking about that as soon as I saw the MO come in.

[cobalt patrol]

Also remember it's completely without provocation

Nothing we've done has caused this

See, says it right there

[rotund marten]

I have never really played ODST so none of this does anything for my nostalgia glands, but I appreciate the PoI-detecting armour

and the fact it will probably be quite easy to get a group together for SC farming in the next couple of days

[cobalt patrol]

Anyway, have to kill 51 million terminids an hour

So we'd best get cracking

[rotund marten]

we do have those shiny new napalm barrages, I'm sure we can do better than that

I really am a fan of that strat

[steady flame]

Same, but I'm here for the M5A because.. M5A.

Misc | Naval RA-chitect ↩️

[Reply to:](#1204832579287519292 message) I have never really played ODST so none of this does anything for my nostalgia glands, but I appreci…

[cobalt patrol]

I have mixed feelings because people are really dumb about using it

Really really really dumb

[rotund marten]

I am less worried about it as a teamkill machine than I am by regular cluster bombs, if only because there's a lot more clusters

[cobalt patrol]

Throw it onto a heavy bug nest dumb (it's useless at closing but holes and only closes them on a direct hit)

[rotund marten]

and I appreciate the ability to just lock off a breach and go "well, point some AT in that general direction and it'll all be handled"

[cobalt patrol]

Where it excells and what it should be used for is "and fuck this bug breach '

It's very very good for that

[rotund marten]

only good case for throwing it on objectives is either the kill-eggs objectives, which it appears to do very well, or if you've got a laser wandering around closing all the holes and don't want it getting stuck on chaff

[ionic holly]

Alright i contained myself on the prior trailer just to be safe but now it is time to be excited

M9000000000000 MY FUCKING BELOVED

[cobalt patrol]

Personally, i'm more a fan of Gas Mines fro "and screw this breach". Very reliable tool

I'd use Incin mines, but someone invetiable stands upon one at which point they cease being a teamate and become chemistry.

[quick crown]

The sound doesn't sound exactly the same as the old one but i might just be remembering wrong. Or it was too weird to replicate

For the assault rifle i mean

[strange vine]

https://www.vxreddit.com/r/Helldivers/comments/1muj007/poor_mans_helldivers/

[cobalt patrol]

wince

also every time i see Forntight's gameplay it looks like arse

so impactless

[graceful bluff]

Seems like "legenday" warbond means you can't use farmed super credits?

[strange vine]

that appears on every warbond

[graceful bluff]

huh weird

I am surprised there's no stratagem or booster though

[graceful bluff]

ofc the AR is medium else pubs wouldn't care about it :v

[cobalt patrol]

Tbf, everyone's been wanting a new medium ar for a while

[royal lantern]

It's kind of ironic because the halo shotgun famously hits like an absolute truck and the AR requires like thirty rounds to break an elites shield

But maybe it'll be medium pen but low damage

[idle hollow]

i'm stupid i just realised that the armour is dare's armour

[royal lantern]

It's a clever choice, and makes me curious about what the superstore armor will be

The generic green UNSC grunt gear?

[graceful bluff]

I mean haven't shotguns always been good against shields in most media

many simultaneous hits to try and overload it

[royal lantern]

Yeah but the Halo shotgun also just slaps everything, even vehicles in some games when you're close enough

[strange vine]

what we know so far: NO ODST superstore items, Both armors are medium armors, armor passive= [reduced leg damage, increased POI spotting distance, and stealthy movement], no weapon customization, AR is 32rds + Medium AP but has no ADS, SMG is two-handed, Shotgun is 6rds + Light AP, SMG is 48rnds + Light AP, Pistol is 12rds + Light AP, Pistol and SMG are silenced which affects detection ranges. No booster, stratagems, or supercredits in this warbond, warbond will cost 1500 and you cannot use the freebie token to get it. This legendary warbond does not affect the release schedule of other warbonds.

all this is info taken from community leads

[wide star]

huh, that's neat then i suppose

[royal lantern]

The shotgun must hit like an absolute truck then

Honestly I like the AR not having ADS, I feel like it would be kind of missing the point of the Halo AR if it did

[ionic holly]

honestly whatever the shotgun may be, its coming into my loadout

i will main that fuckin' thing

[royal lantern]

I feel like the AR might end up the same for me

Because I've wanted a medium pen AR that doesn't look like the adjudicator for ages

[strange vine]

weh??

[ionic holly]

Oh good, more one handed guns

been aeons

I will say, i do hope the m90 has some HIGH damage given the fact its direct competitor is what... 400~ for the punisher and like 10 more rounds?

[rotund marten]

<@&1206091872716595200> does anyone want to join me in some casual SC farming

I would like to pick up Control Group

[quartz cloak]

If it's medium pen I will be the happiest human alive

[ionic holly]

Light pen

[quartz cloak]

ouch

Well, maybe it'll be better than the Defender (I just want a shield loadout that works on bots and isn't the goddamn crossbow)

[strange vine]

tbh i found the defender serviceable on bots with the shield

just supplement it with the senator

[quartz cloak]

For blowing up hulks?

[ionic holly]

Ive come to the point i dont particularly care if somethings lightpen
all it means is i gotta aim better

[rotund marten]

I was running the Stalwart for the first time in a year and a bit last night and I was pleasantly surprised how fast it ripped through brood commanders and such despite the armour

helps that I finally decided to set it to max fire rate, which seems way more useful

laser beam of death

hive guard aren't that hard to dodge around

[strange vine]

nah for killing stuff you dont want to hit the light pen weakspots for
support weapon would be like QC or railgun

[quartz cloak]

Got it

[strange vine]

if you shoot the mouth area you can hit the light pen body or the light pen claws too

its not a perfect AV3 shield when it hunkers down

[rotund marten]

senator is surprisingly good at killing hulks, but I'd rather have something to do it quickly

[unreal merlin]

Been having lots of fun running

• Siege Ready armor (light)
• Purifier / Talon / Gas Grenades
• Supply Pack / Epoch / FLEX / Eagle Airstrike
  Supply Pack + Epoch + Siege Ready lets you be very liberal with your epoch and vaporize every other Alpha Commander you see.

2 shots chargers (1 to abdomen), 2 shots bile titans with headshots

[rotund marten]

you get a lot of medals in this, might just have been the luck of the SC farming but I'm nearly maxed on medals already and I'm still 215 SCs away from my next warbond

possibly my view on how long it took to unlock Content before was skewed by steadily burning through every single unlockable in the first three warbonds + Helldivers Mobilize

[fleet nacelle]

https://youtu.be/P2NVJSJVGVQ?si=RFGq6eMmnSyWz-I5

(Yes we know the music is from 3 and not odst)

[hazy oriole]

dunno how i feel bout the halo shotgun being light pen, wonder how it could distinguish itself from the punisher

[royal lantern]

One thousand damage

If it is going to keep the six round capacity, as opposed to the 16 of the punisher, I feel like it must get something pretty sizable to make up for it

[hearty shell]

Yo holy shit

[rotund marten]

picked up the Variable and the Epoch

I like the variable so far but I have no idea how to use the Epoch

doesn't seem to have a particulary big AOE and doesn't do demolitions work

[stone bridge]

There's two stages of charge, are you getting to the second level?

[rotund marten]

I have very little idea, I just know that it fired a few lackluster shots and then blew my head off when I tried to push it a bit further, so evidently I need rather more practice

[stone bridge]

aye aye

[rotund marten]

the volley gun is very entertaining, although we were just SC farming so I haven't got to try it on big things

firing it while jump packing and launching yourself across the map is good comedy, at least

[unreal merlin]

The max-charge window is very small before it explodes. I recommend taking a bit to practice charging it and listen for the audio cue rather than watching the gauge. It reaches a shrill peak when fully charged and you get like 0.5s to hold it. With enough practice you get a feel for it and can full-charge with little to no risk.

As for how to use it as a weapon, I say treat it like a quasar in terms of enemies you want to target but expect to use 2 shots instead of 1 for heavy enemies that don't have massive weakpoints (tank vents, harvester legs, etc.). Always be aiming for heads or weakspots like charger/bile titan abdomens or war strider groins/hulk eyes. It's got a max range of about 120m it feels like. The main difference from a quasar is that it's more responsive (faster charge, no cooldown) and comfortable to use vs medium enemies (commanders, devastators, overseers) as it'll pretty frequently kill small groups of them wth one shot.

Just always be ready to release the Epoch shot, never try to hold it. If your current target dies, do NOT try to pivot to some different target in a different direction because the time it takes to re-aim and re-acquire a new target while holding a charged shot WILL just make it explode.

[rotund marten]

got it, thank you

if it does have that kind of killing power I might like the thing because it has a pretty solid ammo count

[unreal merlin]

I particularly recommend running Siege Armor (from Urbal Legends) and a Supply Pack (each use gives 2 reloads) so you can be a lot mor generous with it.

[rotund marten]

don't have siege armour yet but it's probably next on the list after I have the 150-ish medals necessary for the warp pack

blipping through doors will make it rather easier to go credit hunting

[cobalt patrol]

Epoch is worthless if you're not getting the full charges - without full charge it's an AP4 400 normal/200 durable damage shot+ 400 damage aoe.

If you full charge it's AP5 + 800 normal/400 durable with 800 aoe. Aoe is explosive damage, the bolt itself is ballistic (so aiming matters)

It will literally core Hulks in a single shot to the front (you do need to hit the eye), can wipe out a whole squad of devs, etc. Even tango with factory Striders (use it to blow their chin guns off, then go after the head), can splatter all the heavies on the bot front (break charger legs/blow their backside, bt faces, impaler tentacles or break their legs)

Also the detonation when you overcharge is uh, big!

Like wipe your entire squad big -.-

[unreal merlin]

Poor thing needs a modicum of demolition force though, I want to be able to close bug holes with it

[supple siren]

I think that every Napalm Barrage

[weary granite]

Anyone have any idea what the Crossover Warbond's Booster will be?

[rotund marten]

doesn't have one, I believe

[stone bridge]

yeah, it's just two sets of armour with a unique passive, three primaries, one secondary I think

[unreal merlin]

Good farming. Went from 600 to 1640 today.

[winter shuttle]

alright wich one of you did this XD

[winter shuttle]

as well as skins, a title, two caps and the background

[ionic holly]

Honestly, i know this one is a special case but if they sometimes just didnt do boosters in favor of like, an extra weapon or armour or what not
Until something with the big 3 is done, preferably just making em base kit or part of ship upgrades, atleast the space optimization one, its very much a struggle to try and experiment with boosters

[rare nymph]

Y’all ever accidentally stick yourself with a thermite? I managed to do that yesterday

[hexed steeple]

how

[royal lantern]

I think there are spots on some enemies that can bounce them, like chargers from certain angles

[strange vine]

yep a few times

[hexed steeple]

i've only thrown it at oomf on purpose a couple times

[strange vine]

my friend group has taken to throwing thermites at the people in pelican before getting on so we can have sparklers taking off

i started it

[hexed steeple]

[rotund marten]

<@&1206091872716595200> do we have two more people to join me and Hevy for some super credit farming?

[cobalt patrol]

I can jump on and run around, but i'll be listening to other stuff

that chill?

[rotund marten]

absolutely

[cobalt patrol]

i'll just run around iwth my warp pack

[rotund marten]

even one warp pack probably speeds this up immensely

I'm still 100 medals off mine

[ionic holly]

Speaking of the warp pack, one of my friends wanted to know if it telefragged divers so he had me try to do it to him

it in fact

did

i knew this before the testing, but i wasn't about to turn down a no catch teamkill

[rotund marten]

I have no idea why completing the primary objective removes the "abandon as group" button but it does

[cobalt patrol]

I literally just telefragged Misc and heavy both for funsies.

[ionic holly]

Hell yeah

Even i have to admit TKing is funny sometimes

also i learned in my standard of the bearer armour with no vitality enchantment, i can one hit melee light armoured allies with my axe and nearly OHK them with the stock bash

[warm flint]

the most TKs I've done are probably with the HMG
funniest one was once when I forgot to wear peak phisique, ran and tried to shoot a bot to save a friend and the sway went wayyy to the right and hit them instead

[cobalt patrol]

Shortly later i killed myself with a banked electro grenade. whooops

[ionic holly]

The arc nade? or different elec nade?

[ionic holly]

Also, i dont think ive
ever TK'd with the HMG

[cobalt patrol]

Arc nade launcher. Turns out it is bouncy.

[ionic holly]

Oh, huh
dunno if ive ever seen it bounce, maybe an arming distance thing?

[sharp crater]

the normal GL has arming distance (shots won't blow up at super close range, will bounce), so the arc one might too

[cobalt patrol]

Yes, it banked straight off the crate and into my face and killedm e perefectly

honestly 10/10 veryt funny

[ionic holly]

Woof

[warm flint]

its usually that I'm shooting and people decide to cross in between

I feel like I'm dancing around chickens sometimes when people are moving a lot and I need to stop shooting very carefully

[cobalt patrol]

I got murdered in the frv by the rear gunner hte otehr day

stuck my head out, rr, loose my head

I am so glad i checked carefully

Found us anotehr 110 sc

[hearty pier]

If I'm not on the gunner seat all limbs stay inside the FRV for this reason

(also because I've had more than a few drivers who will cut a little too close to walls)

[oblique hazel]

Only exception to that for me is if I have something like the AC or GL that is much more effective as a FRV mounted weapon

Still usually gets me killed but it's worth it to actually kill stuff

[hearty pier]

Important to have exemptions that prove rules

[ionic holly]

boutta start running salamander for no reason besides drip again

found a mod that changes a good few armour sets colourations to the dynamo set's colours

(i really like the dynamo set)

[weary granite]

Hmm, makes sense. Will wait and see on that end tho.

[cobalt patrol]

Thisisfine.exe

(also, time until we get Squids?)

[odd arch]

hell yeah I might actually be home on time for this one

[graceful bluff]

<@&1206091872716595200> it's [LOCAL.PLANETARY.TIME], time for your daily super credit farm https://discord.com/channels/426286410496999425/1408057301494927370

[weary granite]

Double MO, wth

[cobalt patrol]

Tbhj, i'm betting we get triple mo

with the squids making a big attack

[rare nymph]

We’re gonna end up having to defend the max security cities

[cobalt patrol]

TThat was priceless

Arm hellbomb

get off it

turn round, trooper with bazooka is looking right at me

(he pulled the trigger)

[graceful bluff]

genuinely not sure if I can be assed to farm for the mamstercheef in da hellpoo warbond

[ionic holly]

i think the epoch is unironically starting to hit me with a curse of binding

i tried it while running siege ready earlier (more so fashion than the perk) and that bumps it up to 5 total mags

genuinely helped it a ton

[unreal merlin]

Siege Ready + Epoch is a very comfy combo. +1 mag (5 total) and faster reload helps you be more generous with your attacking. I recommend running Supply Pack as well which gives you +2 mags per restock.

[cobalt patrol]

I would do this, but also have you considerd warp pack for maximum shennagins

[ionic holly]

Oh i do warp pack/epoch

[unreal merlin]

Warp pack is also good. I believe most of the value of supply pack actually comes from it restocking grenades, which since Epoch has no demolition force grenades become one of my primary "bug nest closing tools" and I need a lot of them.

[ionic holly]

I run pyros so it's hard to really run out of grenades unless i'm spamming them

[rotund marten]

<@&1206091872716595200> who is diving at this hour

[sage plume]

still early but i would be around

[oblique hazel]

If I can convince myself to get out of my very comfy bed

[odd idol]

i may be

[oblique hazel]

I'll be on in 10

[daring monolith]

whomever said there was going to be a third MO called it

[cobalt patrol]

I CALLED IT

[harsh kayak]

There it is

[daring monolith]

I bet halfway through we're going to get a narrative boost to go along with the ODST warbond launch

[rotund marten]

jolly good, now I get to practice killing squids

I'm looking forward to podding in shields and railguns and giving them to the newbies, since I was handed a ton of those at Malevelon Creek and not getting one tapped by those damn rockets is great for the learning curve

[cobalt patrol]

I dont think you can be one tapped by rockets naymore, unless they're barrage tank/rocket strider rockets

[cobalt patrol]

Well, that was a slick as hell team. 4 level 150s, all stuck togther except at the send where we spread out to wipe out the last few things

and just shredded the bots

[rotund marten]

really liking the Variable against both bots and illuminate at present

albeit mostly just as a really nice machine gun

decided to grab superstore Peak Physique and Siege-Ready armour in lieu of their warbonds, so hopefully the +handling will help with my collection of incredibly clumsy guns

[graceful bluff]

You can if you get headshot by it iirc, which, fair

[cobalt patrol]

Oh, I just run medium with extra padding on bots these days. It's simple, but boy does it do work

[graceful bluff]

headshots bypass armor

[cobalt patrol]

Anything past 100 has damage reduction on headshots

Had done that since April last year

[stone bridge]

Correct for light and medium, but like Penguin said, any armour above 100 has headshot damage reduction

[cobalt patrol]

Functionally 100 is just default damage, as I understand it. Below, you take more, above you take less

[cobalt patrol]

Fun fact: Valuable's total discharge mode can one shot Harvies if you hit the eye perfectly.

You can also use it to rocket jump

[rotund marten]

I figured out the rocket jump by complete accident, yes

[cobalt patrol]

Peak physique is a godsend on the autocannon. Makes it much snappier

Which makes bullying Harvies, flesh mobs and stimgrays much easier

[rotund marten]

haven't tried the autocannon on the squids yet, I'll have to give that a try

variable + GL is currently beating out stalwart + eruptor as my illuminate loadout of choice, but it is a little short on anti-air

[cobalt patrol]

Flak kills everything that's not Harvies very efficiently, at mode takes out Harvies fairly efficiently if you go for the leg joint.

At mode drops overseers in a single headshot, or if you hit them in the body with a flak shell the next one will drop them, makes it great vs crowds of overseers

Flak wrecks shields too, and absolutely mulches flesh mobs as long as you are landing the shells on them

And flak shoots down stingrays very efficiently

[strange vine]

xbox release date will bring in more players, which actually would be effective on a kill number MO

[ionic holly]

Hey question for folk here, is the shown pages on the helldivers wiki, the .gg one, accurate for the odst page?

spoilers for those who uh wanna be surprised i guess? if it's true?

https://helldivers.wiki.gg/wiki/Helldivers_2_x_Halo_ODST_Legendary_Warbond

i'm hoping it is || cause page 1 m90 would be a dream||

[strange vine]

we know nothing about the warbond pages so dont put any stock in it

[ionic holly]

Damnit

I'm really hoping m90 is page one or two then, i wanna get that shit off rip

[ionic holly]

Pain

kinda wish they didn't even do a page layout then but shrug

[winter shuttle]

A COORDINATED ATTACK AGAIST SUPER EARTH

[supple siren]

To think three unprompted assaults, what has Super Earth ever done to deserve this

[agile fable]

Well put, Mr. Curry

We just have to hold out until the 26, which is…4 days away.

Fuck

[winter shuttle]

will xbox trully save us ? what can man do agaist suck reckless undemocratic rage

[agile fable]

Fight

Even if we die, we die fighting

[normal juniper]

as someone who just started squid diving, how are you actually supposed to do anything against them

are they the hardest of the three factions to fight or is this just a skill issue on my part

[agile fable]

What’s your problem

Voteless? Mobs? Overs?

[normal juniper]

mobs i just need to learn to dodge

overs kick my ass the most though yes

[agile fable]

Remember

Their heads don’t have the armor that the rest of them has. Simply just aim good and you’ll probably be fine.

[normal juniper]

so i can stick to scythe and pop heads?

or jets in the case of the flying fucks

[agile fable]

It’s what I do

[normal juniper]

works for me

scythe is becoming my favorite weapon, i thought it would be breaker or penetrator but literal pinpoint accuracy and theoretically unlimited ammo are pretty substantial upsides lmao

[supple siren]

I'm a big fan of the double edge into 'em but i'm also just fond of gimmicky weapons

Deadeye also pops their heads right off IIRC

[cobalt patrol]

Uh. Overseers heads are ap3 to get through. The difference is it's not ablative like the rest of their armor, which you can shoot off with sustained damage, and the head has very low health - so high damage ap3 weapons can headshot them

[stone bridge]

Senator in particular is an outright one tap

Just gotta be a good shot

[cobalt patrol]

Anyway, squids generally favor rapid fire, big mag weapons, or anything that has chunky aoe.

The only threat that requires at is currently the leviathan, and that's mostly ignorable.

Gas & MG turrets do work. Strafing run can down Stingrays with good timing

[winter shuttle]

For me squids are great with a nade laucher

[cobalt patrol]

I tend to like the autocannon, grenade launcher is absolutely a good call. Laser cannon will do work, etc

[supple siren]

AntiMat is fun but you -gotta- headshot, also takes off Strider Legs if you hit the joint a few times

( jetpack shots also work )

[rotund marten]

I too am inexperienced with squids but nade launcher + variable + guard dog of choice seems to tear them up very well

I still want to go Leviathan hunting, though

don't have the AT Emplacement so I'd have to do it with eats or the rocket exosuit

[weary granite]

For me, Wasp is naisu support weapon + Ultimatum, and the Carbine or Incendiary Breaker works with Gas nades.

Against Squids.