the regular guard dog is great, it goes for headshots
#Helldivers 2: For Managed Democracy!
graceful bluff
graceful bluff
I like how these totalitarian strongholds seem to just have a lot more greenery
cobalt patrol
I like how these totalitarian strongholds seem to just have a lot more greenery
It's like how gardens are illegal in new zealand.
(This isnt true, it's a werid meme on the r/NZ subbreddit
odd arch
man I hope a booster rework is high on their priority list
I'd like to run something other than the big three
I run stupid loadouts all the time because I can prop them up with not dying so much that my team will notice
but breaking off the booster meta is depriving the others from what by now feels like the normal way to play
...wait, why is the DSS being voted to move to hydrobius
am I stupid?
graceful bluff
they really should just put the meta 4 into upgrades
tall stone
...wait, why is the DSS being voted to move to hydrobius
Welcome to DSS voting, where stupid things happen because the blob isn't great at thinking ahead.
cobalt patrol
they really should just put the meta 4 into upgrades
Yes, but also, boosters that are passive effects rather than active effects are just bad deisgns.
Like Exp Infusion, the Pods do X when called in, Supplies have a turret, etc, these are good shit - these all give moments of power that you can play around.
But they're always gonna get muscled out unless tehy're way overutned by thigns like "Have better radar" "Have more hp" because always on effects are just so strong
graceful bluff
yeah
odd arch
what's the fourth meta one?
odd arch
the big three is hellpod space, stamina and vitality
rare nymph
Usually experimental infusion is the fourth
supple siren
Heavy Armor without stamina buff is like being trapped in a bog
odd arch
to their credit somewhat, that's 3 meta boosters quickly unlocked from the free warbond
at least it's not from the other warbonds
sweet surge
idle hollow
keen zinc
Usually experimental infusion is the fourth
yeah experimental infusion is always my go to fourth booster
press V to get out of jail free
ionic holly
Guess its being sent out in waves, dont have mine yet
wait
probably cause i didn't have the update
Dunno why i tlet me on without updating
hazy oriole
do the new city maps come with new objectives?
ionic holly
Looks to be the same stuff as when they were on super earth, minus the invasion fleet
or i just havent seen that mission type yet
oblique hazel
welp, just tried squids again
the leviathan changes are basically meaningless
being told your being targeted by the bullshit cannon doesn't do shit if you have no agency about what to do about that
strange vine
Literally the only change they need to do IMO is make it so that you can destroy the guns with AP4 weapons. You can only ever interact with Leviathans with AT weapons which sucks.
hazy oriole
yeah
i hate how uninteractive they feel
really loved illuminate before they were added and now i honestly can't stand em
marble parcel
glad marsh
Eh, their fault for walking in front of the arc thrower
glad marsh
I think the feeling is mutual, tower hates all life
harsh kayak
i hate the tower
Shoot tower
idle hollow
Shoot tower
i don't want to they're effective at murder it's just it doesnt give you much warning when it's about to murder you
harsh kayak
i don't want to they're effective at murder it's just it doesnt give you much wa...
Arc armour
verbal summit
i don't want to they're effective at murder it's just it doesnt give you much wa...
It starts to brighten and electric in a wider space before it's about to zap something
hazy oriole
i usually just stay as far away from them as i can, but i understand that's not always a possibility
verbal summit
Makes them very easy to avoid
And their range is about 30m
Idk what the deal is with the tower they're very predictable and readable.
idle hollow
they're silent
i want a noise that warns me
most of the time i didnt even know the tower existed
verbal summit
They also make a noise I believe when they're about to hit something
idle hollow
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kG5WTMe9jmU it needs to be as loud and obvious as This
oblique hazel
<@&1206091872716595200> anyone up for some squids? I have an op without leviathans queued up
odd arch
graceful bluff
odd arch
it's tragic that mines are the most convenient carpet of explosions on a short cooldown and tesla is the most consistent dual purpose sentry
unfortunately, the rest of the team
cobalt patrol
It is still very funny to place incins and immediately see teammates run straight at them
graceful bluff
the playerbase continues to consistenly make better booster ideas than arrowhead
smoke pods would be actually useful
tall stone
Tesla Tower Smoke Pod into Bots ❤️
graceful bluff
it'd also just help a ton not getting wrecked coming out of the hellpod yourself
I do hope when they add silencers they'll make it a thing on most weapons rather than just a few specifics though
odd arch
every grenade is a decoy grenade already 
graceful bluff
the dynamite is actually a really nice decoy grenade due to this
I've snuck through a base throwing high duration dynamite in fabs so they won't instantly alert them
shy prairie
Okay smoke pods actually sick
verbal summit
I just want a silenced marksman rifle
odd arch
I don't remember what the sound range is on DCS but it's short enough that if you're using the scope you're not getting heard
quick plinth
hearty pier
"problem remover"?
My usual bot loadouts tend towards either "hit and run" or "portable wall" depending on the mission
verbal summit
I tend to hoverpack n eruptor with quasar
quick plinth
I also figured that one
take siege ready and you can just sit on a hill and rain down supporting fire
though swapping some stuff around to grab an AMR doesn't feel as great as it should, though the Eruptor has a limited range
odd arch
"problem remover"?
perhaps
light fortified armour, smoke and gas for stealth explosions and quick getaways, but lugging around a HMG and using it as a sniper rifle
so my usual "gets close and goes LOUD" approach to stealth shedding further stealth
graceful bluff
honestly the hover pack is amazing for stealth gameplay
being able to get to a high point to snipe from is amazing, and also makes it harder for you to be detected
oblique hazel
I need to try the HMG again
odd arch
enemies at the plume of dust and roar of hover engine: must've been the wind
warped cradle
For all your Leviathan hunting needs
odd arch
I have blood and thunder playing on repeat in my head in illuminate missions
warped cradle
CURSE YOU WHALE
odd arch
BREAK YOUR BACKS AND CRACK YOUR OARS MEN [clip of FRV charging towards a leviathan and exploding unceremoniosly]
unreal merlin
For all your Leviathan hunting needs
if only we could just click loadout presets in the hellpod
that text font and box layout reminds me of Kerbal Space Program
graceful bluff
For all your Leviathan hunting needs
Whaler edition but no knight smg smh
warped cradle
Don't have the knight 🥺
graceful bluff
smh not a whale
keen zinc
mf you throw that thing in the direction we are MOVING
split parcel
Had a funny time yesterday with some friends. Friend took heavy fire resistant armor and the double edged sickle, and I took the stim pistol
He was able to basically fire from prone indefinitely
Healing him while he just fired nonstop
rare nymph
Did y’all take vitality booster too?
split parcel
Yep
And experimental infusion but unsure if that one matters
It was just fun to use with stim pistol
strange vine
cobalt patrol
He was able to basically fire from prone indefinitely
So the trick here is you literally can't catch on fire while prone.
Yes really.
It's hilarious
graceful bluff
Does it even do damage to you or is all the damage just the fire proc
graceful bluff
oh that'd make some mean overwatch support fire then with the hover pack getting up somewhere high and just laying down and laying down fire
strange vine
Does it even do damage to you or is all the damage just the fire proc
the DE Sickle both has a fire proc at near max heat but it also deals fire damage that increases in intensity with the heat
which is why fire resistance armor is near mandatory since it reduces the fire damage itself
graceful bluff
does the damage when prone still count as fire damage
ran it for a mission with the medic armor and it was.. usable, but I'd love to be able to go full brrr
strange vine
does the damage when prone still count as fire damage
All the damage it deals to you is classified as fire damage
cobalt patrol
does the damage when prone still count as fire damage
Yes, it does. You just can't catch fire. You'll still take damage, but you won't ignite
ionic holly
i am
in love with arc dog
i thought i was gonna hate it cause it was gonna fuck me over in melee but no actually, it seems to stop aiming at enemies when they close enough
split parcel
Seems like it kinda works like gas dog in a way
odd arch
the dogs have a fairly limited vertical angle so that probably helps
verbal summit
Laser dog freaking out and turning around all over the place when an enemy underneath it
Thus setting allies on fire.
supple siren
Love when your Laserdog sweeps across a teammate but the ping or whatever decides they don't take damage, just a little yelp of pain between friends
odd arch
the one downside of the double edged sickle heavy tf2 strat is the non-stop screams of agony
cobalt patrol
the one downside of the double edged sickle heavy tf2 strat is the non-stop scre...
You're putting the fear of god into everyone!
oblique hazel
y'know I just realized something
we haven't gotten a new victory pose since chemical agents
the first 4 paid warbonds all had 3 each, but we've gotten nothing for months now
split parcel
we haven't gotten a new victory pose since chemical agents
They realized they could never top "PEE-YEW!" and understandably stopped brainstorming
odd arch
which one is that
calm sorrel
The chemical agents one where they pretend to hold their nose
split parcel
Wave their hand in front of their face a bit too
odd arch
so I've been thinking
how to elevate the heavy tf2 strat
main drawbacks: dickle user has to stay prone to avoid burning to death, medic is orbiting them and has to interrupt whatever they are doing every X seconds to pop a stim shot
mostly thinking about gluing the dickle gunner prone to the roof of a car or mech with the medic as the driver, as that is still doing stuff
car with the gunner and medic in seats on one side so the medic has an effortless shot would be great but now the driver is doing nothing beyond being a chauffeur
also maybe giving the medic a directional shield on the factions with guns
the gunner is perma stimmed so they won't die but flinching and ragdolling can spell doom when the uninterrupted stream of fire is your whole thing
oh also really warming up to grenadier battlement as artillery into bot bases
the amount of firepower you get for the cooldown is a deluxe deal
split parcel
I've been thinking about that one too
split parcel
oh also really warming up to grenadier battlement as artillery into bot bases
Especially in relation to anti-tank emplacement
odd arch
anti-tank wins for optimal play (blow up several bases worth of fabs from afar and leave) but any time you need to actually storm one it's so convenient
need or want
split parcel
I should have said "in conjunction"
I'm curious if the battlement short enough for you to use it as effective cover for ATE while still shooting over it
odd arch
iirc yes
split parcel
Very interesting
odd arch
sentries can shoot over it and the emplacement is at least the same height
I was messing around with all three to see how funny it can get into illuminate
found out that dropping the battlement in a narrow alleyway makes them path around it, even the flesh mobs were confused
so you can just parkour over it while they take the long way
I'd have to see how it fares as cover for sentries into bots, making them last enough to dump all their ammo unattended would be a pretty nice boost
and then when you're no longer at risk of being bisected by your own sentry the battlement might remain there like a jank EAT I guess
"might come in handy in 20 minutes"
supple siren
Everytime I see complaints about Leviathans it makes me want to plant my flag harder in 'they're good actually', maybe spawn rate can be a bit high
lethal delta
I think they are cool, but IMO there should be a maximum of 2 at the same time
odd arch
and they shouldn't repopulate immediately
I might be ahab and they might be white whale but they're still somewhere within "respected nemesis" territory not "arrowhead's mistake"
supple siren
My friend has gaslit themself into thinking they are all-powerful invincible snipers despite the amount of 'standing completely still unloading RR shots into their stomach' i've tried to show
^^^
This is correct take
Not everything should be solved with gas mines and heavy RPMs
odd arch
I haven't had a chance to play squids since the patch so I can't say how much the spotlight eases my frustrations
but the main thing that was sending me up the wall was how often their very first shot after silently spawning on the opposite end of the map would be a lethal headshot
like, anywhere on the body is lethal, but they had to go for the extra offence
I kinda did a complete 180 on them lmao
because on super earth I completely ignored their presence and then they dropped into my open landscape match
and I suddenly understood what everyone else went through as my leg transmuted into an ivory peg
odd arch
unfortunately with unbroken sightlines they have all the time in the world to get lucky
strange vine
Everytime I see complaints about Leviathans it makes me want to plant my flag ha...
their cannons need to be able to be destroyed by AP4 weapons
is the only change aside from reducing spawn rate id make
lethal delta
That seems fine tbh
cobalt patrol
My main issue is they're in a weird place between stage hazard and enemy
I want them to a: be intractable with by AP4 stuff, and b: to be much more of an actual enemy ala Factory Striders - a big fucking threat that comes in, dives over the team, etc
Not loitering around taking pot shots
lethal delta
I think they are fine if we can destroy their cannons. Only the bombing barrage is a danger then, and that seems fair because it requires basic positional awareness
strange vine
i think the bombs should increase in intensity and explosion and damage while the guns are destructible
im talking near constant drops, each with the power of an OPS
spare verge
I wish there was a possibility for something like, a bot drop gets replaced by a squad of gunships coming in sometimes
or a leviathan swoops in instead of illuminate ships
then again that's kind of what the gunship patrol modifier is for
graceful bluff
My problem with the leviathans is that shooting them doesn't do anything
since when one dies another instantly spawns
glad marsh
Leviathans are currently suffering from being extremely difficult to kill in a reasonable amount of time for a regular enemy
And well
It's unfun to deal with them-
spare verge
it would probably feel a bit better if there were more things it's worth taking AT for on the illuminate front
stone bridge
Honestly I just wear Fortified armour and stop caring
If you can't beat em, outtank em
graceful bluff
We need an AA turret and eagle AA
And also the leviathans only having a set amount of spawns per map
stone bridge
Eh
graceful bluff
At their current implementation they're just the meteorite modifier but they actively aim for you
warped cradle
Leviathans are currently suffering from being extremely difficult to kill in a r...
Just remove the AoE from their cannons, like they were pre nerf
graceful bluff
Or just make it like every single other cannon in the game, make them stop aiming shortly before firing
you can juke every single other cannon
even the harvester beam
dry canopy
Harvesters apparently start spawning on Challenging difficulty.
harvesters are equivalent units to chargers!
this also means they can be stunned by things that can stun chargers, which is a fun fact that I love.
graceful bluff
imagine harvesters spawning in the quantity of chargers
unreal merlin
"bile titans are mid-tier enemies :)"
graceful bluff
Chargers got a lot less annoying to me when I figured out you can oneshot them with the railgun
unreal merlin
I don't think I've ever done that. Full unsafe charge?
unreal merlin
There's always been the 2x railguns to the foreleg and then just peppering the leg
graceful bluff
like how you can shoot down multiple enemies with a high penetration shot
unreal merlin
vaguely, not the details
graceful bluff
it's similar to that, but the chargers ass has no armor, so if you aim at its head through its ass you'll bypass the armor
unreal merlin
that's goofy
It can take the wings off of Leviathans in about 4 fully-charged shots, which can prevent them from making their long-ranged attacks, but it's a poor choice to try and take down a leviathan with.
neato. I haven't been using the railgun in a LONG time mostly because my primary/secondary kit these days doesn't mix too well with it
It is possible to eliminate any Charger variant with one unsafe shot. This is performed by firing into their butt in the direction of their face with an Unsafe shot charged to at least 40%. This is due to the projectile cleaving through the butt and hitting the 300% to Main inner flesh in the torso, if done correctly, the charger will die instantly without rupturing their abdomen.
yeah there it is
graceful bluff
carbine+railgun is amazing and both benefit greatly from the extra ammo armor
blissful sparrow
i still take railgun into bots occassionally cause eyeing a hulk is fun, but didn't know it also had that efficency potential into bugs
also only requiring 40% charge is way less spicy than i'd have expected
unreal merlin
it's always been a very solid bug tool for how extremely fast you can clear out the annoying mediums like hive guards and alpha commanders, and it's serviceable vs chargers and in a pinch works against BTs/Impalers too.
Ideally there's someone with real AT to take out the latter
graceful bluff
I just wish I could get a proper scope on it
unreal merlin
but just headshotting all the commanders/guards from afar itself is a valuable role
graceful bluff
I'd be happy even with the x2 scope
blissful sparrow
fire rate of the AC still makes it feel better over railgun, i just can't keep up with the hordes with the railgun
unreal merlin
yea it's not anti-horde and is ONLY for chopping through med+ enemies, which if you're getting swamped in hunters doesn't help
blissful sparrow
or AMR if i want to be a little gremlin and noscope hive guards
🐶
unreal merlin
currently on a journey of weapon leveling, I am not fond of the JAR-5 Dominator but it certainly could be worse. It really doesn't help that I've been using it vs squids though, I wanna go fight bots more
unreal merlin
quite frankly, I would rather shoot the watchers with my Talon
it's okay vs overseers as it'll headshot them, but I find that to be just inconsistent enough (due to their animations causing a bodyshot instead) to be annoying. If I wanted to headshot overseers I'd go back to using the Deadeye or an AMR.
cobalt patrol
that's goofy
Goofy, but it does make sense and is incredibly fu nny
weary granite
one taps overseers and flashlights
Do note that you need to aim for their skull or their backpack (for elevated) to one tap them
With da discount Boltgun
blissful sparrow
JAR is my favorite weapon into bots
tap-tap-tap and half a patrol is gone
ripe cloud
it's all about the fit
weary granite
Nice fit
ripe cloud
And now i have more shotgun shell for the eneies of super earth
graceful bluff
hm
at the point in my stealth that I'm wondering if I should slot eagle smoke
(it's fucking criminal that the fully upgraded orbital smoke is 85 seconds cooldown, fully rearming eagle's 105)
stone bridge
i would rather slot smoke grenades then eagle smoke, eagle smoke width is pretty pathetic since it drops a bunch of tiny smokes
ionic holly
i find it funny how many light pen guns are some of my favorites now, namely the tenderizer which i always loved, but now the breaker spray and pray, amendment, and defender
strange vine
people overrate having medium pen tbh
its good but not mandatory like some people treat it as
graceful bluff
Honestly the main reason people like medium pen is that outside the lib pen, they pmuch all have chonky damage
They like the chonky damage, not the medium pen, but people never realize that
Also, hmg just absolutely tears apart harvesters now
you just blast them in the face
harsh kayak
it's all about the fit
Wolf brigade o’clock it seems
strange vine
Honestly the main reason people like medium pen is that outside the lib pen, the...
almost all med pen weapons have less damage than their closest light pen counterparts tbh
graceful bluff
I'm more talking the reprimand, adjudicator, and DCS/deadeye
verbal summit
Only noticed cus I only thought of it just now but I just realised pretty much all armours are symmetric I thinj
verbal summit
Like there's rarely any of them that have dissymetry like this
And there's also next to none with shoulder thingies like that idk what they're called but they always go hard
graceful bluff
Just give me it arrowhead
verbal summit
I want a guided primary that can lock multiple targets at once n then fires 1 bullet into each or you change a setting so it can multilock n it just fires all the locks it has.
It'll be awesome
unreal merlin
FRV is super fun, yeah. Gear-shifting and "not constantly flooring the accelerator pedal" are the secrets to not constantly crashing and flipping, and once you get there it's a blast to drive.
oblique hazel
Only noticed cus I only thought of it just now but I just realised pretty much a...
When you get down to the details basically none of them are, but even when you go one step up from the little pouches and such, a good few of them are asymmetrical
I just ballparked ~30 armor sets that aren't symmetrical by that criteria, out of ~80
So nearly 1/2
graceful bluff
Excuse me, what the fuck is this weld on the amendment
oblique hazel
Oh God lol
stone bridge
because its a hasty conversion of the Constitution
oblique hazel
I wonder if that's randomized at all? I know wear and tear like the scratches on that same bit are
graceful bluff
I know it's probably never gonna happen but I'd love a speedloader for the deadeye
oh ffs
dry canopy
Excuse me, what the fuck is this weld on the amendment
it's so remarkably bad.
graceful bluff
1 medal off
harsh kayak
Oof
graceful bluff
I kinda want a weapon that's somewhere between the AMR and anti tank emplacement, like a weapon you have to deploy
verbal summit
Well that's what the silencer is for
graceful bluff
More saying that if you're within 50m you probably don't need a sniper rifle :v
verbal summit
Well no
They're in 50m from each other
So they can hear my shots from far away
Give me a silenced sniper
graceful bluff
I mean a silenced sniper wouldn't help with the impact anyway :v
oblique hazel
its plenty helpful if you're trying to snipe things while other enemies are within 50m
unreal merlin
Something I've noticed while leveling the JAR-5 Dominator, at very long ranges Overseers cannot hear you shooting them.
graceful bluff
Still trying to find a weapon I like against squids
oblique hazel
Also like, 50m isn't that close range, there are definitely situations where you'll be happy to use a precision weapon against a target within 50m
And in most of those situations a silencer would be greatly appreciated
verbal summit
I mean a silenced sniper wouldn't help with the impact anyway :v
Just make it work for me smh
odd arch
a subsonic sniper could get rid of the "enemies within [fairly generous distance] of the bullet's path know exactly where you are" mechanic ig
odd arch
because even when you shoot, say, DCS from a kilometer away into one of these small outposts
everyone will turn around because the bullet passed by them on its way to get the distant dude
verbal summit
Idc about being so perfectly realistic I just want my hype moments n aura farming
verbal summit
because even when you shoot, say, DCS from a kilometer away into one of these sm...
Or they'll run their ballistics on the skull of their friend for .5 seconds and determine your location, address, bank account, personal email and professional email and your mother's maiden name
Get it cus they're bots
See the bugs they uh idk sniff you I guess
And the illuminate invade your mind I guess n find your location
odd arch
illuminate use the might of their hivemind to run geoguessr on you
verbal summit
True
graceful bluff
Idc about being so perfectly realistic I just want my hype moments n aura farmin...
High arc explosive crossbow
Also honestly them tracking the location of where the shot comes from is really helpful controlling where enemies are
Also, grenade idea: Warrant, but with a rubber band on the trigger. You just throw it into the air and it locks onto shit
graceful bluff
I'm kinda looking at the amendment for a stealth weapon thanks to the higher melee damage
cobalt patrol
because its a hasty conversion of the Constitution
I do love the little details
graceful bluff
<@&1206091872716595200> Time for calamari https://discord.com/channels/426286410496999425/1385946669677412376
quick plinth
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pj4YW0umJ8
absolutely nuts!
harsh kayak
HDDDR
strange vine
idle hollow
how is the MO still not done yet
how are we still only 30% done on this planet
why is 19% of the playerbase on fucking krakatwo
sharp crater
squid fatigue
oblique hazel
Leviathans
keen zinc
Arrowhead doesn't understand player fatigue at all
Constantly having us do the same shit for weeks at a time
It gets old
cobalt patrol
Arrowhead doesn't understand player fatigue at all
This kinda absolute statement is really daft. Unless you've got an inside line to Arrowhead, you've no idea what they do or don't understand.
tall stone
why is 19% of the playerbase on fucking krakatwo
To be fair, this sort of thing happens every MO
karmic prawn
You can also just not play the MO if you're squidded out
cobalt patrol
You can even not play the game! I'm just taking a break and enjoying Mario kart world, lies of p dlc, etc
karmic prawn
I feel Arrowhead has done a pretty good job at injecting new twists on missions and enemy composition in the big plot MO's but it's entirely understandable to be getting tired of doing just one third of the game
trim breach
Also Leviathans are bullshit and it's entirely due to the spawn rate
sharp crater
I think "the squids go to super earth" nonstop for about two weeks or so really makes it hard to fight the illuminate again for a good while. I know they got some new units (which are good additions imo), but I do think they still need more variety to be as entertaining as the other two.
cobalt patrol
I think "the squids go to super earth" nonstop for about two weeks or so really ...
That's where i'm at. Levithans being a miss overall isnt helping - if they were more like factory striders in both threat and interactaibltiy, i'd enjoy em
sour falcon
Flying factory strider would be dope
cobalt patrol
my issue is that a: you can;'t interact unless you have ap5. That's boring, and the interactabiltiy is pretty limited in and ofitself
b: They dont actually act like enemies, they act like stage hazards
sour falcon
They also instantly come back seemingly, so interacting with them is largely a waste.
cobalt patrol
increase the speed they'll come flying in at. Kill their max range. (hell, give them a shield they drop when they're in bommbing range, that'd be fun).
ANd yeah, make it so they dont just... respawn instnatly
As it is, tehy're a stage hazard that's obnoxoius
warped cradle
I've never had too much of an issue with leviathans, as long as you have two squad mates bring some form of AT they're pretty manageable
If anything, I feel like the nerfs have made them more obnoxious
cobalt patrol
To me it's more these don't provide an interesting gameplay experience
Compare stingrays (you can bait them to Strafe other units, they're fun to shoot down), or Factory Striders (big, sing, fun weakspots, have weaknesses that non at can take advantage of while still being an at priority target, dramatic when they hit the field)
warped cradle
I don't mind that leviathans are as tanky as they are, it adds more importance to bringing AT equipment to illuminate
split parcel
im about to get the at emplacement so i'm fiending for that
ready to drop some leviathans out of the sky
warped cradle
It's fun having your whole squad focus fire on them
I think they wouldn't be as much of a problem if they spawned less often
But then I wouldn't get to shoot them as much, so I'm conflicted
marble parcel
The way I see it they need the charger treatment. An easier way (other than using half of your teams ap) to expose a weakpoint for conventional weapons
warped cradle
They kinda do already, but I see your point
keen zinc
I've never had too much of an issue with leviathans, as long as you have two squ...
yeah but the Illuminate not having the AT tax and then suddenling having the MOST mandatory AT tax rubs a lot of people wrong
warped cradle
I think it adds a bit more thinking to what you should consider when picking stratagems. When before it really was just a bad choice to bring heavier weapons
On illuminate
strange vine
the leviathans just need 1) reduced spawn rate and most importantly 2) make their guns destroyable by AP4 weapons
bonus thing is after making their guns destructible (without needing AT), make their bombing ports even more destructive, make them basically each the power of an OPS
right now you like, dont recognize that part of their weaponry as a threat at all
i dont think most people even know they have that
this way theyre still a notable threat even if youve destroyed their guns, since being under them is a death sentence but theyre slow and noticeable enough you can avoid their bombing
strange vine
I think it adds a bit more thinking to what you should consider when picking str...
HD1 Illuminate only had 1 enemy require heavy AT, the obelisk, and even then it was only to destroy it without it opening and revealing a less armored weakpoint. This gave them something unique from the Bugs and Cyborgs since those hard required AT.
Leviathans absolutely need another way to interact with them thats not AT
graceful bluff
Another problem with leviathans is that it just entirely removes stealth as an option vs squids
because you cannot hide from it at all, it always knows where you are
and once it shoots at you, even if it somehow misses, that's an explosion that attracts other enemies
cobalt patrol
the leviathans just need 1) reduced spawn rate and most importantly 2) make thei...
My problem with that is then they're still often pissing around at the edges of the map etc... Having them actually sweep in for attack runs would help up the threat of the bombs, and make them feel more like a real enemy.
graceful bluff
That 1 sec full input lock on going prone after being knocked down is legit starting to ruin my enjoyment of the game
especially considering it was put in to fix a fucking cosmetic bug
oblique hazel
It wasn't fully cosmetic, but it is still incredibly frustrating
karmic prawn
I feel they worked well on the city maps but yeah they probably could use some tweaks to be more interactive on open maps
graceful bluff
the leviathans just need 1) reduced spawn rate and most importantly 2) make thei...
The funniest thing is that the guns are indestructible
unreal merlin
Sir you need to calm down *shoots you with stim pistol
graceful bluff
I don't think super meth will calm people down
cobalt patrol
I Am So Fucking Mad
I'm sorry! The lies of p dlc is just too peak!
graceful bluff
squid fatique is real
Also need opinion on a strat I've seen recently where you don't pick hellpod optimization but just call down a resupply instantly on first dive
Also got a railgun question, is the green 100% damage or is the red 100% damage
trail nymph
Green
barren iron
Also need opinion on a strat I've seen recently where you don't pick hellpod opt...
very valid but hellpod optimization is useful when you die too
warped cradle
Squid fatigue is FAKE, I could do this all day
sour falcon
I couldn’t care less about squid at this point, lol
Entire game’s been focused on them for 2 months now and I’m burnt out. I yearn for oil and bile
verbal summit
i just never liked their gameplay
im trying to figure out what it is that ends up fucking me up so much but there's not really 1 singular thing i can point to
split parcel
i've ended up liking them a decent bit
still probably my least favorite faction but i still like the game a lot and they don't really sour my enjoyment of it as much as they used to
sour falcon
They have a unique playstyle that is required and I like that
But I’m just burnt out on the small mission pool and the samey environments they exist in
verbal summit
I guess I just dislike the unique playstyle
graceful bluff
Green
Turns out no, damage goes up all the way until you explode
I enjoy squids when I'm not being being locked into true combos by a leviathan or flesh mob
verbal summit
Leviathans are the least of my troubles
It's elevated overseers that have remained the issue to me
graceful bluff
my leviathan pain is mainly that it makes stealth entirely impossible
because even if it misses you, it just alerted everyone in a 50m radius
even more for voteless
split parcel
Kinda wish I had an FRV skin that had like, a big rig paint job and on the back it said "How's my driving?"
Or like a white and yellow one that said Student Driver
hazy oriole
Leviathans absolutely need another way to interact with them thats not AT
That and every other faction have a non at means of interactng with their biggest menaces
agile fable
bug...
i hope we get to see terminid and bot controlled megacities because the illuminate ones were banger
strange vine
i hope we get to see terminid and bot controlled megacities because the illumina...
We do have bug megacities
agile fable
yippee
agile fable
remember that one Tom post with him saying Kill Two Billion Terminids?
keen zinc
squid fatique is real
Yeah it's why I haven't been playing much
terse shoal
Yeah it's why I haven't been playing much
bruh i played against squids the other day with some peeps and that shit was such ass, infinitely prefer bugs and bots, even predator strain bugs, to squids.
split parcel
If Leviathans were less annoying I'd be completely fine with squids
split parcel
what are some good secondaries for horde clear? preferably something concussive or that can impede their movement
unreal merlin
Redeemer (auto-pistol, high capacity), Verdict (11 rounds, medpen), melee weapons of choice, talon/dagger for heat based (never reload!), crisper is a flamer pistol, plas-15 loyalist is a charge plasma pistol
IMO talon is the best secondary
ionic holly
We dont actually have a concussive secondary, the closest is the stun lance and baton
Im preferential to the verdict myself due to its spammy nature
dry canopy
talon is versatile but not great for horde clear
grenade pistol exists.
ultimatium... I mean, technically.
unreal merlin
I've never liked grenade pistol for anything but dealing with outposts. Talon works great though if you have pacing. The "clear" is from just how much uptime you can get out of it without having to stop.
dry canopy
this is true, if you've got space to run or the horde is far enough away
if you don't it's less effective imo
unreal merlin
That's the realm of "time to drop a gas grenade" for me.
More recently I've been playing with the De-escalator from the new warbond, deleting entire hordes of voteless with it feels pretty good.
A lot of my horde clear definitely revolves around not letting the horde get close in the first place, though. Whether that's killing it all via gas or such, or more likely just thinning it strategically. Horde isn't dangerous if you keep culling all the flankers and chaff so it stays a manageable problem.
Also dropping an MG Sentry. Those do great.
trail nymph
<@&1206091872716595200> Dive Dive Dive
oblique hazel
I can hop on in ~30 min if you need folks by then
oblique hazel
<@&1206091872716595200> got room for 1
lethal dagger
@oblique hazel #9763-1144
lethal dagger
#3578-9926
shy prairie
according to the vid it isnt that good for potatoes?
quick plinth
the game is largley cpu bound
simple things like lowering resolution and basic graphical changes to go in line with your Vram is the most you can hope to reduce the load on your gpu
odd arch
I've always held the philosophy of putting my budget into CPU and RAM and potatifying the graphics to make up for the budget GPU
I know the type of games I play
calm sorrel
I was using DX11 to get better fps, but it started taking a really long time to load initially. Anyone know what to do?
calm sorrel
oh, found something! If you use "dx11 / --use-d311" instead of just the last part, it seems to work better
oblique hazel
anyone else able to install today's patch way faster than usual for helldivers?
did they finally fix whatever made that take so long ??
hearty pier
The patch times seem to vary depending on how many files they are patching. If all the fixes are concentrated on one area (e.g. mission completion bugfixes) then the patch is fast
split parcel
Lot of Leviathan changes in the patch apparently?
strange vine
Looks like its 10 AC shots, 3 railgun shots, 2 commandos, or 1 heavier AT shot to kill the leviathan turrets
steady flameBOT
I can hear the hungy hungy RR from here. >:3
sweet surge
cobalt patrol
Be interesting to see if this changes things but i dont thin kti super hits my issues if they're still gonna wander at range
steady flameBOT
The echolalia guys and gallies are bwa'ing well after this fix!
DoubleDD ↩️
odd arch
I think I'm going to unironically play the game in PS1 mode if I can find a way to keep the low poly models but with long render distance
graceful bluff
EAT and commando eating good this patch
both being able to take out two turrets per calldown
with the commando being basically guaranteed cause guided
trail nymph
<@&1206091872716595200> It is time
ionic holly
Shoutout to another loadout i've found insanely fun
blitzer stunlance k-9 and arc thrower
unreal merlin
Been using the K9 recently, it does great work. You do gotta maintain awareness of where enemies are and allies in relation to you to avoid friendly fire, but that's the same awareness you need for the other zappy weapons.
ionic holly
I've admittedly not had it bite anyone non-hostile yet weirdly
graceful bluff
I'll make ya a deal
I'll maintain as much awareness about it as my teammates do :v
ionic holly
and it's absolutely fired without me paying attention, namely that shit has 180'd and hit a ground behind me
Also correct me if i'm wrong but i never remember the normal guard dog and rover actively going for enemies behind you
unreal merlin
Yeah it does insane work at crowd clear, I've had some shots get upwards of 20 kills in one go (ideal but situation but still)
ionic holly
Ive seen it roll up to a sturdy 30 myself
tall stone
Also correct me if i'm wrong but i *never* remember the normal guard dog and rov...
I have run away from enough things to assure you they can
ionic holly
im
surprised the arc thrower can pop AA guns and mortars
odd arch
wasn't the arc anti-tank, just low damage?
unreal merlin
it actually has AP7 but only 250 damage (100 durable)
oblique hazel
god we need to be able to label our lobbies like you can in DRG
I'm so tired of people rushing to extract as soon as the main objective is over when there are still bases and secondaries all over the map
cobalt patrol
I'm so tired of people rushing to extract as soon as the main objective is over ...
Yeah, that hsit drives me nuts. on this D10 WE CLEAR THE MAP LIKE SUPER EARTH INTENDED
This is also the perneiall arugmetn on Blitzs between @stone bridge and me. Briar's all "we're running out of time and reinforcemnts, we should extract", i'm all "BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD EARTH, ROBO SKULLS FOR FREEDOM"
Obvs, i am the morally sup;erior one in this example sage nodding
oblique hazel
See I'm willing to accept it when you can't reasonably get a full clear (like in that situation you describe), but in the mission that prompted this, someone called in extract with 7 min left on the blitz timer with literally no nests or secondaries completed
We somehow managed to spread out in such a way that we hit enough holes without full clearing a nest, and suddenly all of the randoms just decide to sit on extract
And they didn't get in while I was still running around trying to actually complete things either, they just
Sat there
The entire time
God bugdivers are so frustrating
cobalt patrol
See I'm willing to accept it when you can't reasonably get a full clear (like in...
Briar and i have very different defintionso f "Reasonble" is the hting, and i feel i'm uusally right we can clear 😄
I am also a madman
ionic holly
yeah im probably gonna drag my current shock jock loadout to a few places
split parcel
How is the Bushwhacker in the realm of "decent horde clear secondary with immediate peeling/stagger potential in a pinch?"
split parcel
How does it compare to, say, Cookout for horde clear?
supple siren
Bushwacker is more 'get this thing off of me right this instant' than crowd handler
Also surprisingly effective at Shriekers but i guess that's birdshot
split parcel
Damn, really just looking for a nice middle ground of crowd handler and get this thing off me right now for a secondary
Like a concussive Redeemer or something similar would be nice
blissful sparrow
Stun lance
cobalt patrol
Damn, really just looking for a nice middle ground of crowd handler and get this...
Talon or Verdict are your best bets
calm sorrel
verdict does have the stopping power but the talon is a little awkward at point blank
cobalt patrol
Both mag dump very well when you need something dead, but also work well to handle crowds if you pace and place your shots
cobalt patrol
verdict does have the stopping power but the talon is a little awkward at point ...
I guess? I use it to drop stuff at point blank all the time
split parcel
Stun lance
Forgot to specify I was looking for a ranged option, sorry
split parcel
Both mag dump very well when you need something dead, but also work well to hand...
Hmmm, I'm looking for something I can be a bit more panicky with lol
I might just keep using the Crisper, tough to beat that one
odd arch
crisper is really solid for killing "elites" with the fire damage changes
just, they might burn out after they've already reclassified you as ground meat
odd arch
I'm really not up to speed on divers lingo so I'm calling stuff like berserkers and devs elites
"heavies" starting at hulk
graceful bluff
I see most people call them mediums
strange vine
I'm really not up to speed on divers lingo so I'm calling stuff like berserkers ...
elites and heavies are interchangeable when doing pings, so mediums are the term for devastators and berserkers and overseers and such
odd arch
hm
strange vine
most medium enemies tend to have medium armor or AV3 too
split parcel
Crisper probably works really well with Sterilizer
Quick Sterilizer spray, quick Crisper spray, and anything in front of you that's not a heavy is probably dead
odd arch
add arc dog, not because it's necessary, but because it becomes extra insulting
(a bit useful in stopping enemies who started going after you before gas could kick in though)
super ammo efficient and heavies are busy suffering even if you can't kill them in a timely manner too
I wonder if we'll ever see some sort of AT primary, could work without upsetting the balance if getting the AT damage out is enough of an ordeal
kinda like how eruptor is a straight up support weapon but it's still not that popular because it's annoying
I'm thinking something like laser cannon but with almost quasar charge-up and limited burst time, so you can't use it on the run and if it's not held on a weakpoint it ain't it
graceful bluff
<@&1206091872716595200> Time for calamari https://discord.com/channels/426286410496999425/1387502668775161939
odd arch
hm, I can do one or maybe two
odd arch
thanks for games
graceful bluff
I really want an arc thrower upgrade that makes it like the K9 arcthrower
infinite bounces
weary granite
Ah truly. The Quintessential Solodive Experience. (Suicide Mission and above)
20 Minute Chill, do all objectives, side objectives, and bases while collecting samples.
No deaths.
21st Minute. All hell breaks loose, last reinforcement, try to get to extract. Wait for it, die, then almost enter the pelican.
Dies to random fucking Hulk Rocket or Devastator Rocket from across the map.
Samples Begone.
hearty pier
But objectives completed, mission accomplished!
weary granite
The saaaamples
dry canopy
no sample left behind!
unless you fell into a hole that eats them, then you can go get them.
steady flameBOT
But da hole is hungy! D:
unreal merlin
Jet brigade is back. They've got at least one new toy.
wintry moat
They've several
idle hollow
jetpack hulk time
wintry moat
And jetpack devs
odd arch
hell yeah
quick plinth
frankly I find the idea of a hulk that flies, offensive.
wintry moat
Jetpack factory strider when, Arrowhead?
sharp crater
flying factory that builds gunships
wintry moat
And has stratagem jammers for feet
odd arch
jetpack mortar emplacement
strange vine
quick plinth
honestly
less scary than reg hulks that ambush you, since they fly in a predictable arc and take a sec to start doing stuff once they land
weary granite
I called it. Jet Brigade Devastators would be getting some jump packs.
But nothing would have prepared me for the jetpack hulk.
Dear fucking god.
weary granite
https://www.rxddit.com/r/Helldivers/comments/1lkxaeh/the_new_devastators_are_sca...
Imagine...
A modified Factory Strider of the Jet Brigade... Turret and Doors are switched, the Jet Brigade Devastators rise from the top and they have a high ground to cover more distance with their jump jets.
cobalt patrol
Jet brigade is back. They've got at least one new toy.
Dammit, i have to go to bed, i want to see this in action
strange vine
strange vine
theyve also buffed the jet brigade trooper jetpacks, they no longer immediately explode when you wave a beam over it
fringe quiver
As long as they don't make anything safe from quasar cannon or the senator I'm good
strange vine
devastators seem to use the same model jetpack as the troopers (maybe its slightly bigger?)
theyre also chrome, including the hulk bruisers (hulk scorchers are their default colors)
other devastators are default colors
strange vine
idle hollow
https://www.rxddit.com/r/Helldivers/comments/1lkxzf3/here_they_come/
Man I was fucking joking when I said jetpack hulks
I’m terrified
civic apex
odd arch
y'know what I'd like to see for the armour passive rework? point-buy
passives assigned a cost so you can't combine two strong ones, but if you go for two of mid, you can take something niche with the leftover points
glad marsh
Mmm
Curious concept
It would at least make the actively detrimental ones have a reason to be used (firebomb hellpods)
odd arch
that's boosters but I suppose boosters could do something similar
is there a way to see what difficulties are most played btw?
I'd like to know where to quickplay to get fast full lobbies
glad marsh
that's boosters but I suppose boosters could do something similar
Oh, right
I completely misread everything ._.
Sorry Alder
quick plinth
is there a way to see what difficulties are most played btw?
I don't think I've seen such stats posted/logged anywhere
but a good bet is 7s and 9s in my, albeit anecdotal experience
graceful bluff
<@&1206091872716595200> They fly now https://discord.com/channels/426286410496999425/1387858748789231766
sage plume
ill make some food and ill be there
graceful bluff
<@&1206091872716595200> one more for getting goomba stomped by hulks
odd arch
a bot launched a flare but no dropship wave text appeared so I stood there staring at it wondering what broke
and then the dropship came
weary granite
I forgot how annoying Jet Brigade chaff are
supple siren
The last few days have felt like they secretly adjusted Bot accuracy again
Was getting Heavy Devastatored like the olden days
weary granite
Heavy Devs get confused for me when I do the Konami Code movement
They barely hit me
The thing I'm noticing though is the chaff patrols numbering 20 jetpack loving idiots even on lower difficulties
dry canopy
arc thrower stocks up!
cobalt patrol
Deadeye still punches straight through the troopers and blows their backpack
weary granite
Ya seeee, I agree. But uh, I can only reload so fast while the surviving fourteen jet troopers continue flying at me with twenty more in another patrol coming in as reinforcement while they try run my fade with their heat knives.
weary granite
Welp, I perish then after a full minute of being stabbed for I am a Heavy Armor main
weary granite
Still kinda disappointed we didn't get a Jump Devastator that only prefers to punch you.
odd arch
enjoying my fit
goon coded
like, evil org grunt in a videogame that makes you mad you never get to wear their fit
also I find jetpack corp a fair bit easier than regular because if even one gets clipped in the backpack, the chain reaction takes out all the troopers and most devs
odd arch
I think fire mortar hulk needs to lose one of the fire rate or the top notch tracking
the rest of the faction I don't really remember
cobalt patrol
Fire mortars are mostly scary because we're not used to indirect fire, we're used to light armor and using cover to tank things
If you switch to medium+ armor (unflinching or extra padding) they stop being anywhere near as scary
lethal delta
I always run heavy on bots and still hate it
odd arch
the RPM is just shy of making it impossible to escape if you get stumbled by it once because it tracks so well
which on one hand I like because that makes hulk an actual priority target all out of sudden
but it's jarring
cobalt patrol
I dont find it that bad to escape, buuuut i must admit i'm alos in the "Better at the game than they think they are, and this warps their perspective" camp
dry canopy
tbh what I was running when incineration corps was around was like shield gen pack, shield gen, mortar
just don't get hit and if you do get hit don't get hurt and if you do get hurt start wriggling like a worm
odd arch
I had the game kinda ruined for me (hey, add it to the pile) by seeking understanding of it tbh
dry canopy
of course the flame devastators were. a bigger problem imo
odd arch
I should change my mindset somewhat because this keeps happening
with games I love there comes a point where I absorb so much of it that I see the switches in the code flip and become hyperaware of all the ways I could be cheesing it
and, I don't like winning by cheesing, so I start running stupid loadouts and tactics instead
which is not ideal either because it's the exact opposite of trying hard and trying hard can be fun
I'm just kinda gameplay shitposting
dry canopy
oh yeah I get that. to an extent I even am that sort of person - I just also get something out of like, getting the ins and outs of everything, even the bad stuff
odd arch
it's not that I ever develop notable skill but I accrue the knowledge of how to win at the game without playing it
and that can't be forgotten
cobalt patrol
This is why i am very much 90% optimal in my play as i joke
I figure out fun and efefective ways to do things
but if i can do something 90% as well as somethign that requires 500% more effort... i do the 90% option
verbal summit
I tend to stick with a loadout for a while n then change it up eventually
Like for bugs I have my ballistic shield n lance with eruptor and arc nade launcher
Tho I haven't played lately cus I've been space engineering
cobalt patrol
I have not played for just long enough to forget the range on my 500kgs explosion
and blown myself up twice in one misison, right on the edge
10/10 penguin
trail nymph
Democracy wins again
stark ether
i like that they waited till the restrictions were lifted
glad marsh
Oh
They're finally gone?
graceful bluff
the majority of them
some of them required actual work to fix like japan
since when they shut down they have to refund any money spent on unspent super credits
quartz cloak
Actually Japan just has a separate client, they can still play and buy the game IIRC
But there are countries where Steam is banned/restricted and in thise Sony can't really do anything directly
strange vine
thank stellar blade for that
them pushing hard on not being region locked and being really successful likely helped AH a lot
quartz cloak
Really?
Huh
graceful bluff
Actually Japan just has a separate client, they can still play and buy the game ...
Yeah but like I said, that required work to implement
idle hollow
But there are countries where Steam is banned/restricted and in thise Sony can't...
yeah the list is uhhh
syria, iran, iraq, cuba, vietnam, north korea
quick plinth
iraq??
sweet surge
Noticing a theme with that list...
idle hollow
iraq??
my mistake
here's the list
tl;dr sanctions or their own restrictions on video games in the case of vietnam and japan
sweet surge
nvm
stark ether
iirc japan has their own version as when a live service game shuts down they have to refund any unspent premium currency that was bought so it has to track bought and picked up separately and Vietnam has very specific localization requirements for foreign games
And yeah the rest the US has software export restrictions for
So everything on that list afaik is out of sony's hands
graceful bluff
And yeah the rest the US has software export restrictions for
Which is a weird thing considering it's a japanese publisher and swedish developer
graceful bluff
I mean that's not handled through this system
stark ether
graceful bluff
that's a blanket thing that's just handled by not accepting payment processors or ip's from sanctioned countries, rather than this system that allows publishers to specify additional countries
odd arch
what was the review bomb about again
steady flameBOT
The mass area restriction that happened.
supple siren
Sony's Big Fun Maneuver
stark ether
the review bomb was over psn accounts
cobalt patrol
Sony wanted to force PSN accounts to be linked
unreal merlin
The cape has been delayed until the cause for the review bomb was actually reversed
true seal
Ah I thought this was a new one
trail nymph
<@&1206091872716595200> It is time
terse shoal
<@&1206091872716595200> It is time
we dive baby
cobalt patrol
Sad news: The RR does not overpen helldiver heads, so you can't get a 2 for one when your teamates are hugging
tragic
Unreldatedly, dont aks me why i know this
glad marsh
Hmm
Gun science...
cobalt patrol
Hmm
Gun science...
We need some SCIENCE GUNS
trail nymph
<@&1206091872716595200>I am once again asking for your fire support
oblique hazel
<@&1206091872716595200>I am once again asking for your fire support
I'll be on in 10-15
glad marsh
<@&1206091872716595200>I am once again asking for your fire support
What about water support?
I'll..
I'll see myself out-
cobalt patrol
What about water support?
In Helldiver land we only do Fire and Air support. Shockingly lacking on earth and water
glad marsh
graceful bluff
cobalt patrol
NGL, a strider who's legs had been replaced by up-armored dropship pods, or a similar thing
would go pretty hard
cobalt patrol
Though, hmmm. Strider head would look weird on it...
tall stone
Mobile Strategem Jammer Fortress. 😛
unreal merlin
The other day I saw a devastator hunch down like it was about to jump, and when it kicked on its jumpjets it nigh instantly disappeared into the horizon and was never seen again
Then a few hours later I saw a hulk do the same thing
calm sorrel
must be chasing the same thing my WASP missiles keep locking on to
barren iron
and my spears
split parcel
and my axe
graceful bluff
<@&1206091872716595200> Time for scrap https://discord.com/channels/426286410496999425/1388943600750166056
verbal summit
The superdestroyer voice pronounced gunveld as goonveld and I lost it
graceful bluff
<@&1206091872716595200> need two more
verbal summit
Pacifier is pretty cool but just eh I mean any other ar is just gonna do better damage wise n when do you really need the stun anyway
Tho it's fun to save yourself n allies from incoming berserker.
graceful bluff
ok this fucking 1 sec input lock every time you get knocked prone basically guaranteeing you get juggled to death is really pissing me off
it has effectively ruined the game for me
stone bridge
ok this fucking 1 sec input lock every time you get knocked prone basically guar...
What armour are you running?
graceful bluff
even in heavy armor it doesn't really matter if you can't get out of the way due to not accepting any inputs
cobalt patrol
Same here. I run unflinching or extra padding on the bot front currently. Only died the other day in a D10 because pelican 1 decided to frag me right at the end
strange vine
split parcel
i need everyone to see the horseshit that just happened to me https://cdn.steamusercontent.com/ugc/17236615179110077924/6F86D5A6815ADFA7973AC41732F6DAFCAAAF16BA/
warped cradle
The bugs discovered the power of friendship, liberty help us
graceful bluff
terse shoal
that's good shit lmao
cobalt patrol
quick plinth
@modern kiln
modern kiln
@quick plinth
verbal summit
Apparently they're doing some announcement tomorrow. I wonder what it'll be.
Also unrelated as I don't expect the announcement will be about this but I hope that soon enough we'll get more attachments n for all the primaries at least. Didn't they say they were also working on them for secondaries and special weapons?
sweet surge
They did say they would expand the attachment system
verbal summit
I also hope that attachments for for example plasma weapons will be interesting because they could easily do interesting things instead of just adding basic gun attachments.
Like I want plasma weapons to have plasma related attachments like say stronger magnetic coil or linear accelerator or whatever they use to accelerate the plasma which could for example give a higher damage per shot but lower fire rate or something like that
Instead of just vertical grips and muzzle attachments
In fact muzzle attachments wouldn't even necessarily make sense cus plasma weapons wouldn't have propellant gasses. The gas is the bullet after all.
cobalt patrol
Apparently they're doing some announcement tomorrow. I wonder what it'll be.
Did they announce the announcement or?
verbal summit
yeah
idle hollow
silencers and bayonets please
upbeat vector
I want bayonets so badly
verbal summit
SILENCEEEERSS!!!!!
I want silenced sniper
N if anyone dares to try to sell me on the dcs I will growl at you
N bite
Also forgot about the amendment but it has the same damage as the dcs so i was wondering what its differences are
oblique lotus
I want more options for the blitzer
verbal summit
SAAME
Like they could doa like high voltage option n high current n 1 is less stun more damage n the other is other way around
Or something thay makes it have more range but less arcs or less wide or both
There's all sorts of things they could do with it
My only worry is thay they'll just do basic gun type attachments even on the Sci fi things
Like idc about the grip on the scorcher or purifier I'm never full autoing them anyway. I want Sci fi options that make them do their Sci fi things differently
strange vine
Also forgot about the amendment but it has the same damage as the dcs so i was w...
Burst fire, better ergo, more bullets per mag i think, and only light pen
Its solid imo, good on bots
verbal summit
I think both have only light pen but I'm not sure
strange vine
I think both have only light pen but I'm not sure
DCS has medium pen
split parcel
got a goofy terminid loadout that I've been having a blast with
Heavy Gas Armor
Vitality Enhancement
Torcher
Grenade Pistol
Gas Grenade
Sterilizer
Gas Dog
Orbital Gas Strike
Gas Mines
sterilizer's actually cracked for dealing with shriekers
no ability whatsoever of dealing with bile titans but who cares
weary granite
Aight, I just tried out a stealth-ish loadout for the first time.
Gotta say.
Inhale
I respect the Ghostdivers for somehow being patient but also fucking fast with stealthing with the weird ass stealth mechanics.
Sample Scanner (Still collecting samples for upgrades)
Diligence Sniper
Ultimatum
Smoke Grenade
Quasar Cannon
Portable Hellbomb
Gas Mines
Incendiary Mines```Something about stealthing and scattering the entire field with these mines and seeing a killstreak pop up while I'm on the other side of the map just makes me laugh.
Fun Fact: Did you know enough incendiary mines could kill a Factory Strider?
unreal merlin
As a professional ghostdiver, I approve this loadout.
odd arch
gas mines are how I clear, say, a fortress, before going in to blow things up
why use a long cooldown barrage when all I'm interested in is troopers being dead and big guys being busy
ionic holly
I'm still hard locked onto my shock jock loadout
something about the blitzer, stun lance, and arc dog go well in a way i can't describe
odd arch
I started using the explosive crossbow to go with the theme and I'm really missing the eruptor tho
unreal merlin
why use a long cooldown barrage when all I'm interested in is troopers being dea...
I've grown to accept the 120mm Barrage as a useful fire-and-forget stratagem, but still believe the 380mm is too inaccurate and too long a cooldown to be very worth using.
But yeah, gas effects are awesome.
odd arch
eruptor seems to ricochet into vents pretty often, or maybe its demolition hitbox is larger or smth
crossbow needs to nail that one specific weld on the vent
suboptimal when I'm doing a scooby doo chase at the same time
unreal merlin
crossbow needs to nail that one specific weld on the vent
I don't really agree on that from my experience using the crossbow, I find it's pretty excellent for vent sniping even from extreme ranges. I'm kinda psycho about it though and get dopamine from crossbow sniping fabricators from 100m away.
odd arch
it's more of a problem up close, where I'm aiming up
at long ranges the bolt is dipping, which helps a lot
unreal merlin
That's more fair. I prefer to just not be at point blank range before worrying about destroying fabricators.
Like I should never be standing at the doorway and trying to use my crossbow to destroy it, I have other tools (just throw a grenade in the door or something). Preferably I've already just hit it with a quasar from 200m away or used an eagle strafe on the way in.
odd arch
ah, but grenade pickups are rare while the land overflows with ammo boxes
as to "why are you destroying them up close with enemies around"
your honor I plead silly
unreal merlin
ah, but grenade pickups are rare while the land overflows with ammo boxes
the eagle strafe has many a boolet for destroying fabricators at safe distance 😌
cobalt patrol
I don't really agree on that from my experience using the crossbow, I find it's ...
Given my love of dropping stuff with the RR at 200m+ I understand
cobalt patrol
<@&1206091872716595200> https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXIFF4D6LOs announcement steam live in 15
Sub 5 minutes
sage plume
do we know what the stream is about?
unreal merlin
They're announcing helldivers 2, I'm so hype for the sequel to drop
sage plume
yippie
wintry moat
Xbros join the cause
graceful bluff
exbawks
sage plume
more soldiers for the meatgrinder yippie
unreal merlin
"We're sending more dudes"
cobalt patrol
Man, that's a bold play from Sony
stone bridge
ex bok
cobalt patrol
... That was it? Lol
wintry moat
That's it
supple siren
What did this need a stream for lmao
unreal merlin
cobalt patrol
I... Arrowhead, love you, but you gotta get better at your pr game
unreal merlin
"This could have been a tweet"
Lol
cobalt patrol
<:Thumbo:747027006226694156>
Yeah, I was expecting like... Some hype on what's next, etc
Or like a paid expansion (terrible idea they shouldn't do, but you know)
wintry moat
Cool I guess
unreal merlin
IDK what i expected but it wasn't two minutes of Xbox platform announcement followed by the livestream ending
quartz cloak
What happened?
cobalt patrol
Just. . Just drop a trailer without all that fanfare
unreal merlin
The THANK YOU letters are blinking and the stream is still up, time for the ARG nerds to decipher what is obviously morse- oh never mind, it's off
wintry moat
Everyone sit down for the post-credits scene
unreal merlin
This was actually a waste of hype
cobalt patrol
What happened?
They hyped a stream up, full countdown and everything
calm sorrel
you can do premiers for trailers now, I don't get why it was a livestream
quartz cloak
I mean
Okay that's nice finally, but uhhhh
idle hollow
cobalt patrol
The werid bit is really advertising this to the existing playerbase
Like we're not the market, there's not even global accounts as such - if you have it on PC and PS5 your progression is separate
So like, why advertise to your existing playerbase?
Oh well!
Back to enjoying monster hunter and taking a break till the next warbond or other content drop
iron path
It's marketing for all those players who couldn't get access due to the ps account thing (I forget if that was reversed or if PS stuck to their guns)
graceful bluff
that was (mostly) reversed not long ago
calm sorrel
no, that got reverted a little while ago with no fanfare except the review bomb cape dropping
iron path
I haven't really played much of Helldivers 2 that much as when the game came out initially
calm sorrel
no reminder that they were saving that cape until more people were allowed back in
fringe quiver
Thank you for pinging me
Twice helldivers
On your discord
That is filled with PC and PS players
For your announcement
About it coming to xbox
And nothing else
That is definitely what people care about
You could have just pinged once
You didnt even have to ping
fringe quiver
???
I mean you have a point, I should probably just leave their discord if they keep doing this
It's what I did with other discords where pings were weirdly irrelevant
At least their discord had some relevance with it
hexed steeple
you think an announcement about helldivers is irrelevant to helldivers?
fringe quiver
Honestly, in this specific case, kinda. But fwiw I don't know if they're planning on advertising it anywhere else
idle hollow
i think having a livestream for just saying "hi we're on xbox now" is stupid
or well, for ONLY saying that
fringe quiver
I feel like they might be intentionally trying to maliciously generate minor controversy with it and going to drop a better announcement later
Would make the most sense
"Why would they do this"
Then they turn around and say something else alongside the Xbox release that is specifically Microsoft related
hexed steeple
i'll be frank, pnet holds a policy about excessive pings complaining. a ping is simply not that big of a deal and by complaining about it you've given it more time than you ever would've by simply moving on
fringe quiver
Yeh I agree
verbal summit
So that was rhe announcement.
Kinda huge for Xbox peeps I guess but yeah lol could've been a tweet
fringe quiver
I'm surprised they didn't announce it last month, I wonder what happened in between now and then
Maybe it's the timing of when it's getting to xbox
Or maybe has something to do with the Microsoft layoffs
Oh wait, GoW releases on Playstation the same day
unreal merlin
Imo the only reason to be in the helldivers discord is to leech emotes and stickers.
fringe quiver
I try to use it to keep up with announcements
Esp cause they rotated limited items before
sweet surge
calm sorrel
oh, so can we liberate somewhere else to force Xbox players to drop in without a tutorial!
strange vine
no
odd arch
I wonder what the urchin will become eventually
because it's the one definitive miss from the warbond
I hope it becomes something silly, like large carrying capacity and electric clotheslines between nades
unless it has some hidden saving grace I'm not aware of
also my take on the pacifier no one asked for is that it's a perfectly fine addition to the control gun lineup because it's not that far from pummeler and conc stats-wise and medium pen means it applies stun far more easily,
I genuinely don't get why it's getting so much hate, it's directly following the previous guns in the family
sharp crater
the urchin should stick to targets/objects and periodically release stun blasts. For area denial/slowdown and long-term target lockdown. there should maybe still be small moments in between stuns where the target can move a little (so it's not strictly better than the default stun grenade)
odd arch
I was thinking about how everyone loves the halt and had a funny idea
give stun and conc guns a normal bullet every 3 tazers
(I don't think they need to be changed but it'd be funny)
keen zinc
yall dont realize
an hour long stream announced ahead of time for a very short briefing of non-critical information is EXTREMELY on-point military satire
hurry up and wait type shit
odd arch
if it were on point we'd show up 3 hours early to rehearse watching it
keen zinc
arriving 15 minutes prior to the 15 minutes prior to the pre-inspection inspection
then formation march to an area for another inspection, then funneled into one building then another to be told something meaningless by a man with a fancy rank and then leave
odd arch
keen zinc
if it were on point we'd show up 3 hours early to rehearse watching it
so true
unreal merlin
IME the waiting is accurate but the steam should have been 1.5 hours of stuff i really don't care about and by the end my soul feels a little drained and I just want the day to be over but they scheduled this thing for 1000 instead of 1400
odd arch
"first in, last out" means briefings too
keen zinc
dont you get it its essential to our identity as infantrymen to stand in formation outside the building while everyone else is sitting around waiting for it to start
odd arch
the 10 minute training after which everyone has basic competency in all skills is accurate too
if it were longer some divers with two left legs would've slipped by
odd arch
hits blunt what if superman was born on super earth
burnt vapor
Supererman
sharp crater
super hellman
weary granite
Super Helldiver
Also thoughts on the 380 Barrage? Feels like it's a bit tooooo inaccurate...
odd arch
imo 120 is the one for when you want direct hits
380 is for "I want nothing to live in this grid square for the next (duration of barrage)"
coincidentally I don't tend to run 380
walking barrage does everything I'd actually want out of 380
meager saffron
380 should read "complete one (1) clear the robot camp objective somewhere around 2 (two) minutes from now"
lethal delta
The improvement that tightens the radius probably helps with killing teammates less
oblique hazel
99% is pretty high
I can't count the times I've had barrages thrown at me that killed me because I couldn't get away from them in time
blissful sparrow
As a heavy explosive resist user: 380 is mostly just pinball
except when it domes me directly, then i disappear
weary granite
Tbh the pinball is fitting, except I get volleyball spiked into a cliff and die
unreal merlin
Also thoughts on the 380 Barrage? Feels like it's a bit tooooo inaccurate...
Too inaccurate to reliably hit what you want it to, and too long a cooldown to use in anything less than every third or fourth major fight you get into. The 120mm is more tolerable due to the lower cooldown permitting you to use it against maybe every second or third outpost or bot-drop/bug-breach, in which case it actually does quite well as an "I don't need to be precise because the enemies are dense enough" option.
Also maintain like a 50-60 meter distance from the marker in order to stay clear of the danger area.
some people just have really simple desires and will bring both 120 and 380 for the sheer chaos of throwing both at once, though
unreal merlin
throwing a 120 into one of those medium or huge pit bug nests is good stuff
supple siren
380 is 'my favorite stratagem to be given for free'
Hard to give a slot to it but everyone having one in the chamber is both good an funny
unreal merlin
I can't deny that I appreciate a free 380 yeah. It's just that I can rarely justify bringing it as one of my four chosen options.
supple siren
The Walking buff just kind of made it a more reliable version of the same thing
strange vine
the urchin should stick to targets/objects and periodically release stun blasts....
It literally already does this
supple siren
Isn't it single target?
strange vine
Isn't it single target?
Its got a very small aoe, but an aoe nonetheless
Can lock down like a tight alleyway but
unreal merlin
you know what I want buffed (actually reverted)? orbital gatling losing its stupid wandering spray of inconsistency
strange vine
odd idol
when they could be killed by light AP was so funny
odd idol
medium now
graceful bluff
I still find it really funny that they could have easily made it so that the turret doesn't depress enough to clip but they let it anyway
unreal merlin
it's okay, samples tend to consolidate into one player toward the extraction
they did their part, you just ended up with the big heap of samples cuz someone died
split parcel
that might be true yeah
unreal merlin
that being said, sometimes people are just bafflingly uninterested in collecting samples, even ones they walk directly over
maybe i've just got the ears but I can literally hear samples and sometimes track them down just to pick them up and stop the noise
meanwhile Joe Diver runs directly through a field of rares and picks up exactly zero of them
strange vine
I and most of my friend group have no point in getting them but i still gather them to mark pois as visited and number go up
unreal merlin
yeah sometimes I have to catch myself because I do NOT need samples and most of my regular teammates don't either.
cobalt patrol
I collect them because the noise rare samples make is horrible
odd arch
I can't imagine a world where I don't need samples
ripe iron
grab them anyway just out of habit and to keep at the cap for DSS stuff
split parcel
once you've unlocked all the ship modules
odd arch
I feel like I've seen everything half my playtime ago and I'm still not done with upgrades
verbal summit
I sometimes leave some samples behind cus I can't be bothered but at the same time I'll go out of my way to collect some.
So 90% of the time I collect samples
But I don't need em anymore
trail nymph
I have a theory that we will be getting an Xbox(Halo?) themed warbond in August
quick plinth
maybe, I'm not sure what they could do with it that'd be unique however, while remaining hd2 style
trail nymph
ODSTs would be my bet
The reason I think my theory hold water is that the warbond token changes come into effect the same day it releases on Xbox
graceful bluff
have they said what the final change is gonna be to it
cobalt patrol
have they said what the final change is gonna be to it
?
Afaik the way it works is you gets your token when you buy the supporter pack, token can be redeemed for any 1 warbond
graceful bluff
oh thought they were changing the in mission super credits
I know they've been talking about doing that for awhile now
verbal summit
I hope they don't make it hwrd3r
stone bridge
they won't
cobalt patrol
Iirc, they have talk,med it might need to get harder, b ut what they'd mainly like to do as i udnerstand it is change i so farming levle 1 missions isnt the way to go
eg they'd rather make it so you more naturally get them from missions in game, rather than "Target farm like this in a very mindless fashion"
But they're also aware it could be a shitstorm
junior badge
For personal fandom, I'd love to include Star Wars, but yeah, that is a pretty good line to draw. Lots of ground level grunts from fairly dystopian societies (Halo ODST isn't that, but otherwise fit).
Elysian Droptroops would go hard.
royal lantern
The Halo UN/UNSC has a lot of really dubious, dystopian stuff going on, honestly. It's not a huge stones throw from a Starship Troopers. The tortured child soldier Spartan IIs were originally created to fight separatists and insurrectionists, not the Covenant.
idle hollow
yeah then the covenant turned up
north fiber
Yeah, the UN was well on it's way to having a proper Outer Colonies v Inner Colonies war before the Covenant showed up and killed everyone
quick plinth
I mean, helldivers are kinda like spartans
our first task was putting down other human governments iirc
unreal merlin
Cease this seditious narrative immediately. There has only ever been one government of Super Earth and all others were merely rebellious and misguided separatists who would undermine the true stewards of humanity.
weary granite
Dunno if it would be a good idea for Samples to have a use after the Ship Module Upgrades and the Democracy Space Station.
Something like
Experimental Warfare Suite
Use stockpiled samples here to purchase personal upgrades that take effect on the next few missions before running out.
Essentially another ship module you visit and upgrade to get access to better upgrades and they are on a randomized rotation. (Kind of Roguelike)
This might be a good alternative use for samples than just letting them just collect dust in our ship.
split parcel
I've always thought like visual changes to the exterior could be cool also
odd arch
upgrades bad because now I have to walk further to reach my upgrade console
lethal delta
I keep that one unupgraded because of that
calm sorrel
definitely one to save for last
verbal summit
Adjudicator was hell to use but now I have the vertical grip and it's great
odd arch
I was giving the tenderizer a side eye for most of its existence but then flesh mobs came
verbal summit
I should probably pick a light armour pen AR to level as well I'll have to see which, probably the tenderiser
I wonder if they'll do extra mag attachments for adjudicator n tenderiser as well or if that's their way of balancing it out by not giving them to those
odd arch
I hope not
verbal summit
Tho they said they were working on attachments for all weapons as well as more attachments so I hope some existing weapons get more
odd arch
strict limitations let their other stats be more varied
verbal summit
Yeah fair enough tbh
I just like my power fantasy I guess
But if they give in to that it won't be as fun anymore I guess
odd arch
if attachments let all weapons get similar, then their stats will have to get similar to remain balanced
verbal summit
Well I don't think all the same attachments options make for the same weapon. It just means being able to specialise to your need and the weapons needs with every option.