Helldivers 2: For Managed Democracy!

[cobalt patrol]

Yup!

I was very amused

[blissful sparrow]

me everytime i get thrown across the map cause i stood behind a carl gustav

[rare nymph]

Me when I faceplant every time I walk behind a rocket sentry

[odd arch]

inb4 automatons siege super earth

[north fiber]

too quick to pull out that card again

the Super Earth attack needs to be a BIG deal and doing it back to back is not a great idea

[blissful sparrow]

need to happen around christmas so there can be a christmas truce

[keen zinc]

have you ever kneeled on bare rock?

shit hurts

<@&1206091872716595200> it is time to kill

[hexed steeple]

that shit was way easier than i expected

[cobalt patrol]

I still need this one & the gone in 360 seconds one

[hexed steeple]

i only need limb injuries one and killing a charger with a pod

[hexed steeple]

it was really easy solo doing a diff 5 bot extract valuable assets mission with a bunch of turrets and a hmg emplacement

[burnt vapor]

Gone in 360 I recommend a bug nest blitz and a couple friends with grenade launchers

[blissful sparrow]

i have limb injuries and Jumpjet ragdoll left
I'm just too bad at getting shot at 😔

[hexed steeple]

i haven't really thought up an approach to the limb one yet

[burnt vapor]

I think we hugged a hellbomb to get that one? not sure it's been awhile

[burnt vapor]

Jumpjet ragdoll have a friend punch you as you're lifting off worked for us

[blissful sparrow]

democracy protect hellbomb maybe?

[burnt vapor]

that sounds about right

[hexed steeple]

figured it out. supply pod applied directly to head

[burnt vapor]

Super blunt force trauma

[hexed steeple]

i just need to do the charger one which i reckon i can do pretty easy by stunlocking one

[blissful sparrow]

yeah stun grenades make it trivial

EMS strike or EMS mortar if you want to be extra lazy

[wind arrow]

just saw the charger achievement, i wish my shield generator onto bile titan could've qualified the same achievement (yes i am aware of how different they are)

damn, even made via discord clipping:#1204832579287519292 message

good times

[odd arch]

I don't think I've ever opened the achievements tab...

what's the charger one?

[wind arrow]

kill a charger with a supply pod

[wintry moat]

That's the strat, yeah

[supple siren]

I'm missing the 'break every limb at once' cheevo because i've never had that not kill me

[odd arch]

big singular explosion, democracy protects

[odd arch]

invisibility device in the next warbond, calling it

perhaps even free

[keen zinc]

i just want impact smokes

[ionic holly]

mingun with backpack please and thanks

[trim breach]

Not to excuse my lack of situational awareness

But if you flame out because you got gibbed by a stray 380 at the edge of its range you’re playing the wrong game

[tall stone]

Dying once to it is fine. The price of a 380

[graceful bluff]

I still just want my missile silo that's been in the files since launch fully functional

[tall stone]

If it happens twice, bit annoying

3 times means someone has a problem

[graceful bluff]

it has the very nice benefit of being able to take out factories etc without triggering alerts, since it's like a turret so it doesn't trigger alerts

[graceful bluff]

I want a slow release smoke grenade, lemme hit the bots with the ol' https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maoWbSwJ19s

[barren iron]

PLEEEEEASE

[hazy oriole]

https://www.rxddit.com/r/Helldivers/comments/1l25s7x/fun_fact_ah_never_fixed_wormdiving_they_just/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

can anyone else confirm if this is the case?

[graceful bluff]

Always sad when the the extract never shows up due to a bug and you gotta field promote the rest of the squad

[cobalt patrol]

Democracy protects, then call in supply pods, hell pods etc on yourself

[graceful bluff]

Or just hold a HE grenade in your hand till it explodes

[hexed steeple]

#1204832579287519292 message byea

[supple siren]

Democracy Protects doesn't like to protect me but that make sense that plan

[hexed steeple]

it protects me cause i love gambling

[cobalt patrol]

You can't expect me to read the whole history of chat! This is mod based suppression! 😛

[hexed steeple]

not true. this is curator based suppression

[cobalt patrol]

... You win this round, Ashley

[oblique hazel]

It certainly feels like it's the case to me

Which explains a lot and also really sucks

[odd arch]

what's wormdiving

[wintry moat]

A glitch which you could manually activate, it'll set your diver in prone but move at the speed of walking/running without the animation

So you just slide along on the floor

[odd arch]

excellent

[graceful bluff]

funnily enough I activated a new version of it earlier on accident

lockstep emote but you go at full speed

[wintry moat]

Hell yeah

[odd arch]

hell yeah

[wintry moat]

The Incineration Corps is a blast to fight

[odd arch]

not a big fan of the flame mortar hulks but it's in a way a welcome change from mortar mode overseers

who were decoration because they could neither land their shots nor do damage if they did

clown enemy

hulk is scarily good at leading,,,

[wintry moat]

Oof yeah, the crescent something overseer

Forgot they existed

[steady flame]

I should bring the AMR more often, I kinda consigned it to the "no niche" zone but.. Clearly not.

[odd arch]

they were like "don't you dare stand completely still or I'll mildly inconvenience you"

[wintry moat]

The AMR is the can opener for automatons

[odd arch]

bad day to be made of materiel

[wintry moat]

Pro-managed democracy and anti-materiel

[cobalt patrol]

When you have more kills than your shots hit by 103

that's RR~

[cobalt patrol]

They actually do a chunk of damage if you do get hit

because it's basically an auto headshot

but their main role is to force you out of cover and into the voteless/fleshmobs/other overseers

and they do that just fine

[odd arch]

I can just do a little shuffle behind my cover

even with a crowd of them firing

[agile fable]

they then proceeded to breed out of control, perform communist revolution, and have world killing weapons

[graceful bluff]

I mean we kinda made the world killing weapon

[agile fable]

They still have it despite the origin

[weary granite]

Still have the slight headcanon of the Illuminate in HD2 not willing to escalate until the Meridia event happened. In which we warped Meridia basically to them.

I would say it is a valid crash out and retaliation against us since we did the equivalent of taking a super hornet's nest. Shook it, and then threw it into the Illuminate's house.

[graceful bluff]

Imagine if meridia crashed into their homeworld and that's why they sent their entire standing army through the hole

[weary granite]

Overseer: "You bastards!"

Helldiver: "Come for revenge for what happened 100 years ago eh squid?!"

Overseer: "No. You stim junkies threw a super hornet's nest into our fucking house!"

Helldiver: "Ok no yeah, you retaliating is fair then."

[trim breach]

Considering they originally came through the Meridia wormhole, I'm pretty convinced that Super Earth 'accidentally' dropped a Terminid hive onto their front lawn

[weary granite]

Like I said. "Threw a super hornet's nest into their house."

: 3

[graceful bluff]

hm, finished lib pen and trying to decide which weapon to level next

[trim breach]

lib carbine

my beloved

I am extremely annoyed that the Killzone weapons aren't upgradable

prior to the update, the AR was my go-to

[graceful bluff]

My only problem with the lib car is the light pen

what do you usually run with the lib car

[weary granite]

I wish the Killzone stuff was available again. I want that damn helmet.

[trim breach]

Depends on what i'm fighting

Squids was Carbine, Ultimatum, and MMG/HMG

Bugs is Carbine, and either Flamethrower or RR

Bots is Carbine, Senator, and RR, WASP, or AC

HOWEVER

The Carbine is only really useful vs bots and squids once you get a few recoil control upgrades

Because once you have that you can actually keep it on target to chew through squid armor, or target bot heads

It's also great against Berserkers with the new chest weakpoint

it's definitely still best against bugs

as a DPS dump

I just feel like sticking to med pen weapons for 2/3rds of the factions is boring. 😛

[strange vine]

Medium pen weapons i feel are vastly overrated by the playerbase

Most things you kill with your primaries either have light pen weak spots or you can use your support weapon for

[oblique hazel]

Med pen primaries make a lot of sense to pair with AT supports imo, but they're really not necessary otherwise

the scythe is incredible right now, for example

[strange vine]

Yeah, whenever I take a heavy pen support i bring a light pen primary, and whenever i bring AT i bring a medium pen primary

[odd arch]

woke gas and blue tires

[trim breach]

I also found the Lib Pen is great against bots

But freaking useless against squids

[cobalt patrol]

That's why I run deadeye or purifier with RR.

But if I'm bringing autocannon then lib carbine or similar makes way more sense

[trim breach]

I honestly really like the Amendment vs bots

Even thouhg it's light pen

[glad marsh]

Hmm
Is late but..
<@&1206091872716595200> anyone wanna play a lil bit?

[graceful bluff]

I just put rice over for breakfast lmao

[glad marsh]

We'll have a VC set up shortly regardless haha

[glad marsh]

aaand just gonna shut it down now, probably put in my ping too late

[sage plume]

if you're still around, i just finished all the stuff for the morning

[glad marsh]

:0

I could boot up again

[wintry moat]

Tell me about it, the amount of players that considered the amendment to be 'doa' just because of light pen

[glad marsh]

VC! https://discord.com/channels/426286410496999425/1379706250211885170

[oblique hazel]

I just put some cookies in the oven, but I can get on once they're done in ~15 minutes

[cobalt patrol]

PENGUIN WAS THERE TO SAVE THE DAY

[sage plume]

INDEED

[glad marsh]

IT WAS VERY NEEDED THANK YOU

[strange vine]

Woops forgot those links were banned, cant delete it for some reason?

Anyway

[cobalt patrol]

For context for folks wondering why we're all yelling: i randomly dropped in on Till/Cheese/Wizard and turned a EHVA that was goiong to be al oss into a win

excellent hero moment

[weary granite]

I'mma just ala yoink.

[cobalt patrol]

@stone bridge the medium armor with extra padding is a good shout.

Some notable stuff: with vit booster you can survive stepping on a mine, and you can survive getting hit by 90%+ of a conflag devs's shotgun blast

[idle hollow]

I think it auto deletes

something similar happened to me

[stark ether]

the bot sometimes deletes them so hard it gets stuck on the sender's end

[trail nymph]

<@&1206091872716595200> It is time once again

[timber hatch]

yoo ya'll full?

[wind arrow]

????

[forest crater]

https://tenor.com/view/helldivers-helldivers-2-ministry-of-truth-citation-gif-13010538917665259583

[quick plinth]

if you have an EAT-17 out, and go onto an emplacement, it will show you the ammo through it, and thus

half ammo EAT

[tardy onyx]

Finally. Reusable anti-tank.

[stone bridge]

That's pretty damn nice

[cobalt patrol]

Don't ask me how I learned these things 😄

[stone bridge]

lol

[civic apex]

https://www.vxtiktok.com/t/ZTjqemUTH/

[odd arch]

paid actors

[karmic prawn]

That remix of the theme is really cool

[quick plinth]

ARC DOG

AAAARC DOGGGGGG

[steady flame]

I'm looking forwards to this one for the Melkor. :3

[quick plinth]

EMS grenade launcher??

[idle hollow]

What’s the rifles gimmick

Is it just a big fuck off rifle

[steady flame]

Oh, yeah, true, the Melkor's gonna be a stun launcher. :<

[quick plinth]

ARC GRENADE LAYNCHER

ITS ARC

WATCHING VID RN

[steady flame]

Personally I'm of the view that the multimate CC is death, but er, that looks like a tesla GL. :3

[quick plinth]

arc / tesla

same difference

[steady flame]

I mean as opposed to a stun GL.

[quick plinth]

ah yeah

also superstore pistol, warrant, can't make out too much about it

[steady flame]

Whelp, farming time.

[quick plinth]

maybe the warrant is a bolt pistol?

[verbal summit]

Farming ugh

I do want it

But

They don't pay me enough for this smh

In fact they don't even pay me!

At least not to play helldivers

[quick plinth]

Both armors come with the Ballistic Padding passive that grants the wearer higher resistance to chest damage, explosive damage, and all damage from bleeding. These armors also pair well with either the Miranda’s Legacy or the Mother Eagle’s Wings capes, and their matching player cards, in coordinating blue and gold color schemes.

also for some reason they didn't include this in the announcement

[weary granite]

YEEES

[oblique hazel]

its at the end of the video at least

[quick plinth]

yeah

[weary granite]

I CAN FINALLY HAVE MY FULL TESLA TROOPER LOADOUT

[quick plinth]

no arc pistol

[weary granite]

This is depression.

No ARC Fist Melee.

[steady flame]

Is.. Is that basically a Glock-C96?

Lady Havoc (She/Her) ↩️

[(click to see attachment)](#1204832579287519292 message)

[quick plinth]

but hey, arc primary, arc grenade, arc dog, arc support weapon, arc stratagems

[weary granite]

I want an arc fist melee ong

[oblique hazel]

I'm so hyped to get TKd by my own dog repeatedly

[quick plinth]

I'm not sure

[oblique hazel]

gonna be awesome

[weary granite]

Finally, the Cutting Edge Armor is gonna be more used on that.

Though beware being allies next to an all ARC Diver.

[steady flame]

Wait no, that's an M1911 slide, not a Glock. x.x

[quick plinth]

front magazine

[weary granite]

I guarantee, that when that warbond drops. Someone is going to do a Palpatine bit.

[idle hollow]

Is the rifle just

Another rifle

It looks like a G3

[weary granite]

Looks like a medium pen option.

[idle hollow]

Is it a G3

[weary granite]

That rifle looks like it has medium pen.

[idle hollow]

hopefully it’s better than the adjudicator then

[verbal summit]

Anyone wanna grind sc for a couple hours rn?

[weary granite]

I'm down

[verbal summit]

Or in a few minutes actually.

Like 5

[steady flame]

I'm down.

[verbal summit]

@Josie | System at 63 @weary granite I'm ready now :3

Oh idk how to ping you josie

[steady flame]

Our account is @waxen hatch.

[verbal summit]

Okie :3

I can't vc btw

Lemme know when you 2 have started up the game n I'll send my friend code

Or well I can vc I just can't talk

[steady flame]

That's okay.

[stone bridge]

It has a blue magazine, I figure it'll be a stagger based rifle or something

[idle hollow]

m

[stone bridge]

Blue strip on it, even

Which indicates a special ammo load

[wintry moat]

Afaik the blue band indicates dummy rounds

As designated by the NATO dogs

Unlikely to happen, but funny nonetheless

[verbal summit]

Amazing driving

[azure pewter]

The spear from urban legends has some zap

[odd arch]

yeah I'd rather have power fists instead

[weary granite]

Oh oof

Sad

Welp, guess I'll be farming on my lonesome

[quick plinth]

@weary granite ill aid u

[weary granite]

Oh nice

Let me just quickly brush me teeth

[verbal summit]

@quick plinth

[weary granite]

<@&1206091872716595200> anyone up for some SC farming for a while?

[cobalt patrol]

Alas, I've gone to bed

Hit me up tomorrow though @weary granite if I'm not in MKW, I'll be down. Short like 200ish sc currently

[verbal summit]

Wondering if the farming we did was just efficient or normal cus I went from like 250 ish sc to 600something in 1 hour n 45 mins roughly.

[keen zinc]

DREDD

THATS THE LAWGIVER

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cbjby1a-p4

[cobalt patrol]

350+ in an hour or two is decent

[verbal summit]

I'm going to attribute this to my luck

[cobalt patrol]

Iirc the fastest way to do it is a t2/t3 mission, jetpacks for everyone, light armor, make sure you've got stamina booster & uav booster

Then spread out and zoom across the map

[verbal summit]

Also cus I started hormones today that means today is a good day and everything that happens will be good

I will simply manifest a good day

Actually the train is delayed by 15 minutes so it might all be over

[winter shuttle]

i.....am the law !

[quick plinth]

yeah that's about right, an afternoon can net you easy 1k+

[winter shuttle]

indeed !

[winged patio]

Hey does using the weapon customization system still crash the game whenever you try to interact with it?

[barren iron]

nope

[tight zephyr]

Weird how both of the Four Dipshits games I play are both doing Judge Dredd references in June.

[quick plinth]

darktide??

[odd arch]

no pride without cops

[tight zephyr]

Darktide.

I also play Deep Rock Galactic, I guess. So two of the three Four Dipshits games.

[azure pewter]

4 dipshits is a great genre, I wish 6 dipshits was a more common genre, sometimes there’s extra dipshits ya know?

[calm sorrel]

my computer has trouble keeping track of 3 dipshits

[odd arch]

eye divine cybermancy

70 dipshits

[barren iron]

70?

[odd arch]

I don't remember what the game's default cap is but it's VERY large and can be edited until it doesn't run anymore

[unreal merlin]

I've heard of 100 players in EYE

Absolute chaos yes

[odd arch]

and that's a game that's absolute chaos in singleplayer

[hazy oriole]

mixed feelings on the new warbond

the new stratagems are kind of neat, i suppose, but at this point I wish they'd have left out the booster and kept the pistol in, I really really don't like the trend of new secondaries going into superstore

also arc dog feels like it should have been a free strat, but eh, i guess it goes with the theme of the thing

[tight zephyr]

Zapdog.

[odd arch]

the rifle I'm the most curious about

because what is there left for just a rifle to do that's new

[strange vine]

tbh im fine with dog variants being in warbonds, not something like AT emplacement

[azure pewter]

I’m betting rifle version of the smg from truth enforcers with the lil stun mode

[odd arch]

so, liberator concussive?

[strange vine]

concussive is high knockback, not stun

[trail nymph]

More like the stun effect from the stun lance and baton

[odd arch]

huh, I wasn't aware pummeler is stun

I would've known if I weren't SC broke

helldivers class divide

[unreal merlin]

Truth enforcers' Halt shotgun is the one with stun shells, the SMG is the beefy 2 hand one

[graceful bluff]

Your legs are ok

[odd arch]

brouzoufful

I played the game before mandalore so basically I'm ancient gamer

[odd arch]

tbh it being in the SMG category is a case of real life terminology purely there to trip up gamers

[graceful bluff]

If there's an SMG why no DMG

[odd arch]

how does the pummeler compare to lib conc actually

I have the conc and I'm a bit of a fan

being one handed would be awesome but what's the catch

[winter shuttle]

lib con is sadly bad

the pumler is bether becuse you know...one handed

[unreal merlin]

Pummeler was originally a vast improvement over the concussive liberator. The conclib has supposedly been given some improvements, but the pummeler kind of just excels at its job.

[tall stone]

Liberator Concussive custmizes better.

[graceful bluff]

problem is that its key thing being a drum mag is on every liberator now

[stone bridge]

It has significantly more ammo though

Drum Mags on weapons that don't start with them don't increase total ammo, just ammo in magazine

[strange vine]

Yeah

You get less mags total

[cobalt patrol]

Yeah, it just changes how you ammo is distributed

[strange vine]

Compare spray n pray drum vs regular breaker drum on mag count

For example

[oblique hazel]

thats not actually true, your total reserve ammo stays the same, but if you factor in your starting mag they do actually give more ammo

and if you run siege ready then they give a lot more ammo

[strange vine]

Not really

You get like 1 extra drum mag with siege ready while 2 or 3 with the standard or short mags

[clever bane]

wait can anybody ping the helldivers role if theyre looking for a group?

[hexed steeple]

yes

[clever bane]

sweet

<@&1206091872716595200> 2 more slots!

currently sc farming

[sharp crater]

I might hop in, gimme a min

[dry canopy]

I believe this generally isn't the case; for example, breaker incendiary drum mag(default) has 26 rounds in-gun+4 reserve mags=total 130
short mag gives 13 in-gun+9 reserve=130
extended mag gives 16 in-gun+7 reserve=128

spray&pray drum mag is 26+8 reserve=234
short mag is 13+16 reserve=221
extended mag is 16+13 reserve=224

now, is that true for all weapons... I haven't actually checked

some might err slightly higher.

[ionic holly]

i need that AR

IMMEDIATELY.

especially if its stun rounds

this whole warbond was made for me /j

[dry canopy]

I think most of the liberator variants(that I have.) gain total ammo from drum mags.

[oblique hazel]

ah, well thats what I get for doing my math with exclusively liberator variants

[dry canopy]

and, tbh, me only doing it with breaker shotguns

[graceful bluff]

<@&1206091872716595200> Time to dive https://discord.com/channels/426286410496999425/1380426517636714498

[sage plume]

Ill be there in 20

[idle hollow]

Did we win the bot defence MO

We did cool

[true seal]

New warbond looking great for maximizing friendly fire

Time to make my friends suffer

[odd arch]

blitzer, crisper, sterilizer, arc dog, pyrotech nades, killzone armour
it's getting kicked from squads time

this joke loadout would be pretty good too

blitz anything pushing you to give you the time to apply steriliser, then let flames and arc dog take them

pyrotech nades also deal hilariously good damage to elites if they stay in their face for the full duration, and your entire loadout is making enemies not move

[strange vine]

https://youtu.be/VdcoWuTganE

[cobalt patrol]

I really do love how extra this game is

[spare verge]

I'm sure things are going Fine if they have to deputize helldivers for internal control at the same time as they're fighting a war

[cobalt patrol]

https://old.reddit.com/r/Helldivers/comments/1l4lzyh/oh_this_is_gonna_be_fun/

[odd arch]

I'm kinda stupid, can I choose to queue for a specific faction but not a specific planet

also let me check if this works
https://old.rxddit.com/r/Helldivers/comments/1l4lzyh/oh_this_is_gonna_be_fun/

yooo reddit embeds still in

[round marsh]

Anybody wanna spread some democracy? <@&1206091872716595200>

[stone bridge]

Feel free to ping the role, that's what we have it for

[ripe iron]

<@&1206091872716595200> time to dive

[graceful bluff]

(It doesn't ping anyone when you edit it in btw)

[harsh kayak]

I be there in a sec

[verbal summit]

Anyone wanna grind sc later? Idk exactly when

But between now and 5 hours from now

[odd arch]

yes

do you quit out or extract?

[clever bane]

you quit

[odd arch]

I was asking how palo does it

[dry canopy]

I feel like this is almost certainly being too generous to the cop warbond. yesssss. to deal with mind control.
[offscreen: the riots.]

[rare nymph]

Which are surely caused by mind control - nothing to see here, citizen

[odd arch]

so

when are we getting the slow recon vehicle

[calm sorrel]

like the walkers?

[blissful sparrow]

do you mean Mechs or Forklifts?

[odd arch]

forklifts please

[unreal merlin]

forklifts so we can upend chargers and tanks, flipping them over

[blissful sparrow]

so i can drive around with 2 buddies on the fork team reloading a RR

[sharp crater]

the forklift should come with the ability to lift and carry useful items such as:

• explosive barrels
• munitions for the SEAF Artillery
• one-handed objectives
• hellpods

[odd arch]

hrrrn

can't decide between polar patriots and borderline justice for the sake of my build

I want the pummeler and the talon and can't tell which will be more impactful to have first

[hexed steeple]

what's the build

[unreal merlin]

IMO the talon is the best secondary weapon full-stop

I find it hard to justify not using it

pummeler is nice, but it's not "dump 7 rounds into a berserker's gut in an instant" nice and you don't even have to reload after those 7 rounds

[odd arch]

directional shield bot support thing

atm running lib conc and senator

[dry canopy]

the talon is just incredibly hard to justify not running, even with options like. grenade pistol

if you're careful with heat management it literally never runs out, and even if you're not it has three reserve batteries

[unreal merlin]

I used to run grenade pistol as my perma-secondary as I used it for outpost busting (bug nests, etc) but these days there's lots more valid tools for getting that done in a passable manner

even orbital gatling will destroy illuminate ships and bot fabricators

[dry canopy]

yeah for sure

[trim breach]

Realizing that Eagle Strafe Runs will fuck over bot fabricators was a game changer for me

Bug nests are always orders of magnitude more annoying for me

Because there's so many options for killing a fabricator

[unreal merlin]

Eagle Strafe is a super versatile tool for bots, yeah. Has solid applicability on everything short of airborne gunships.

[trim breach]

But a bug hole, for me, is always like

"I've launched all my grenades at you, resupplied, and then launched them all again. Please just explode."
"Haha, fuck you."

[odd arch]

the "get down mr president" bug hole classic

[unreal merlin]

I try to run a quasar whenever feasible vs bugs. And bots really. Quasar is just excellent.

[odd arch]

of a bug crawling out at the perfect moment to intercept your grenade

[ripe iron]

I greatly dislike the charge mechanic of quasar, so RR is perpetually my baby

[blissful sparrow]

standard eagle strike is my go to for bugs. Just tossing it along the bug crater means i can close a 30 meter line of multiple bug holes and then go around a different angle to do it again

Also Crossbow is just convenient for bug holes

[unreal merlin]

the charge-up of the quasar IS a hinderance at times yeah. I value the "never have to reload" mobility of it high enough to justify. Also it one-taps most heavies and even bot fabricators from extreme ranges, so if you're not DROWNING in tank-grade enemies it'll serve well enough

and crossbow, my beloved

[odd arch]

I'm one of these deranged weirdos who prefer EAT to quasar

[dry canopy]

my hot take is dedicated anti-tank weapons are not necessary except on bots. hit them with the arc thrower

[odd arch]

new MO dropped

[unreal merlin]

Not too hot. You should have some manner of AT tool in the kit though, because it's awkward when you run into a bunch of stuff you're entirely incapable of fighting. Thermite grenades for the easy tack-on, or appropriate explosive weaponry to attack weak points.

[dry canopy]

yeah - it's just less necessary than you might expect. impalers die to normal weapon fire if you can find them, tanks have the turret weakspot and die cleanly to thermites - the big issues are factory striders(extremely dangerous without dedicated anti-tank) and bile titans(not necessarily the biggest threat but distract you from all the bugs)

everything else gets stunned.

hulk? stunned. charger? stunned. harvester? stunned if you break the shield first.

[odd arch]

tbh factory striders get reduced to bile titan type distraction carnifex as soon as they lose the chin guns

imagine if bots ever figured how to put guns this deadly and accurate somewhere other than on the big "orbital me please" walker

...y'know them fielding regular tanks instead of all shredders, and other similar choices, suggests they were ready to fight a mundane war

and super earth just said no

four lunatics

[strange vine]

I mean theyre probably steamrolling super earth conventionally

[ripe iron]

to be fair, those four or fewer lunatics are apparently quite efficient

[strange vine]

Like remember SEAF is still doing the majority of the fighting

[hallow gorge]

4 lunatics has been the super earth military strategy for the past 100 years

[strange vine]

Devastators alone will mulch through SEAF troopers

[hallow gorge]

They should've expected this

(and to be fair strategy jammers suggest they did)

[strange vine]

Like a Heavy Devastator alone will rip through SEAF squads like a combine harvester

[odd arch]

and that's why I want a SEAF call-in stratagem

[verbal summit]

Speaking of seaf squads. I'm really yea what alder said

[odd arch]

let me lead my boys to improbable victory

[verbal summit]

And speaking of alder

Perfect get in

N uh barrel roll

[odd arch]

https://tenor.com/view/tamil-heros-relax-driving-drift-gif-14136571

[marble parcel]

I just noticed that the recoiless rifle has two firing modes now! Will probably keep it in HEAT regardless but neat nontheless

[supple siren]

Sometimes it's fun to see how many Voteless you can round up in one HE but yeaah hard to toss a whole reload for it

Kind of a 'well i'm calling in a new one anyhow' move for me

[stone bridge]

nah. Ultimatum

[sweet surge]

New MO

[sour falcon]

Still so burnt out on squids lol

[glad marsh]

So..
||The APC from the first game? They could add the other mechs as well.. or trike||

Too many...

[karmic prawn]

I would love a motorbike with a sidecar

[cobalt patrol]

I really want a motorbike or quad bike - something mobile and fast with great handling, for the scout dream

[glad marsh]

Nothing to say we can't have this beauty back

It'd probably have an MMG mounted, since that's the equivalent in the previous game. Though I could definitely see a stalwart?

[cobalt patrol]

I honestly just want a one person vehicle, where it's a mobility device

... Give me the official helldiver off-road scooter

[glad marsh]

Hmm
Fair enough

Would mean more use for one-handed weapons as well I think

[shy prairie]

helldiver bicycle

[glad marsh]

Give em a hoverboard

I like motorbike or quadbike though, not sure if there's really anything else I could ask for in the department of single-seaters

There is a world where there is a militarized lawnmower for April fools or something I guess

[odd arch]

the goofy personal patrol copter would fit the inherent goofiness of the game, but maybe not gameplay design

[glad marsh]

I mean, the hover pack does kind of fill that niche tbh

Arguably has better stable flight time too

[odd arch]

also

[glad marsh]

It'd be cute though, lil ablative hover box

[odd arch]

I'm just trying to bot dive because I like bots the most and I have to listen to inceassant bitching and moaning about bug divers

fuckin

preferred gamemode tribalism

[glad marsh]

[strange vine]

https://www.rxddit.com/r/Helldivers/comments/1l4rzx0/in_an_alternate_timeline_oc/

[cobalt patrol]

My frustrations do boil over sometimes, but it's much more with the game design allowing for the penalty situation where 10k squid divers on one planet and 10k bug divers on another planet makes less progress than just 6k squid divers on a planet

[odd arch]

yeah that is a problem

but squids are kinda boring so I don't blame anyone for fucking off

I don't think I could've done the full 3 weeks had I not returned to the game late into the siege

[glad marsh]

Yeah I.. still think they're my least favourite.
Bugs and bots are close, squids are pretty far behind them.

Bullet spongey enemies just aren't my thing :b

[odd arch]

it's also that the sponginess serves little purpose beyond itself

their gameplan is to walk at you menacingly

[glad marsh]

It's just a not great choice in a game where ammo and weak points are super important

[stone bridge]

I mean, it's one enemy and it has clear counters you can fit into your loadout

[glad marsh]

Ehh it's overseers and fleshmobs for me.
Mostly overseers, tbh.

It may be a skill issue

[stone bridge]

Eruptor kills Fleshmobs in 3, Autocannon Flak kills in 3, Airburst one shots on a clean hit

[odd arch]

overseers and harvesters are mostly notable in being able to take a beating because nothing else about them really impacts your gameplay

[stone bridge]

Overseers can be one tapped in the head by a Senator or Autocannon

[odd arch]

overseers switching to actually effective melee when pushed is like the standout feature

[stone bridge]

Overseers genuinely hit hard actually

[glad marsh]

Whuh-

But not the HMG?

[stone bridge]

HMG is probably a twofer, an individual round is 50 damage less than a Senator bullet

[odd arch]

the entire faction just kinda
exists to walk at you and test your DPS and backpedaling

they don't set you up for anything

either they grind you down or you grind them down (or y'know leave)

[stone bridge]

You haven't fought them outside the cities yet huh

[odd arch]

I have at their initial release

[glad marsh]

I find they're still like that outside of cities?

They're easier in tight spaces, if anything. Lets you stratagem bigger groups easier

[odd arch]

it's disappointing because they fight in the most dumb swarm/machine stuck in first gear way
as the faction explicitly not that

[stone bridge]

I think the faction is a lot harder outside cities, where Stingrays have a lot more freedom

They're a combined pressure faction

[glad marsh]

Mhm

[stone bridge]

That presents a bunch of different threats at once and tests your capability of dealing with them

You gotta turn the elite gamer brain off here a little bit

And see it from the PoV of people not clearing diff 10s easily

[odd arch]

it's not that there's no challenge but the challenge is simplistic and boring

[unreal merlin]

I'm guilty of forgetting that not everyone plays at 10 all the time

[stone bridge]

To you, yes

That doesn't mean it's a bad faction

[odd arch]

Iunno, it's what I've called difficulty vs intensity before

you stop doing the dance, you die pretty much immediately, it's difficult

but the pressure on you is a single vector

it's not intense

anyways

it's basically certain that they have more squid units cooking

so I trust them on that front

doing the super earth siege as a zombie apocalypse was a curious gamble...?

[stone bridge]

What does this mean exactly

[odd arch]

it worked out thanks to the novelty of city maps but they took a risk with such a long and pivotal event with the limited faction roster

[cobalt patrol]

Flak is two, you just need to hit the body directly with the first shot

Also Deadeye drops then in a single headshot

[cobalt patrol]

Haha, this is a trap I fall into an the time. If I can do it, it's easy right?

(Totally forgetting they're actually very good at video games)

[civic apex]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/3vPUnqXF_uk?feature=share

[hazy oriole]

im a bit bummed that we don't have new, non colony maps for the squids but it's whatever, arrowhead does deserve a break from having to add new stuff

what i am (predictably) annoyed about is dealing with leviathans on even more open maps

[graceful bluff]

I mean more open maps means just drop down an anti tank emplacement and make it not exist anymore

[weary granite]

Bruh, I thought the Illuminate went back through the Meridian wormhole.

Why are they Southside?

What dastardly deeds are they planning down there?

[ripe cloud]

rate the drip super citizen

[weary granite]

Your fit is cool

What about mine? (Tried to nail the big beefy soldier look) (He ate all the crayons)

[ripe cloud]

Look like you going to gun gown a coridor with a lmg

10/10

[odd arch]

please let us vote to end eagle storm

PLEASE

[harsh kayak]

Sub section of wolf brigade

[weary granite]

Cerberus Trooper reporting for duty. :]

[steady flame]

NGL. I like the bullpup Adjudicator.

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[winter shuttle]

Same !

[verbal summit]

Does ballistic shield n sabre just not work? It seems the sabre slashing horizontally pushes rhe shield aside but maybe that's just visually.

Can also just be that no stun makes it harder n stun lance just better.

[unreal merlin]

Per the MO it's leftovers from their contingency if they lost, just in case (as we knew they would)

[odd arch]

hm, I think I'll be retiring the stim pistol for now

illuminate planets are really not conductive to it

[odd arch]

I've had a harder time using the shield with the stun baton too

I think the shield's facing is just very accurately modeled

also I binged the MO with a friend for a while and my impression was much less sour than initial squid release + super earth, won't mind playing more

but leviathans can fuck right off

we coined the term "ablative teammates" because we went through like 5 in one match

I haven't seen this rate of ragequits ever before

one match we got a join who said "hey let's buddy load RRs" and we did and it was a leviathan free match

I shed a tear of joy

in a roundabout way I hope we see more heavy units for the illuminate because I'm a bit peeved that getting leviathans out of your hair demands investment that's not particularly relevant for the rest of the faction

or the AT emplacement but y'know
the grind continues

[unreal merlin]

As satisfying as it is to swat overseers with a cannon emplacement it sure isn't very effective

[odd arch]

huh

I just opened the game and got a "message from super earth"

it was a single screencap of squids that said simply "briefing"

clicking continue closed it

I think intel staff died in the siege of earth

[cobalt patrol]

That honestly just sounds like something misfired

[strange vine]

Nah its not visually

[verbal summit]

Ah so then thay also makes it harder to block as the shield is jot covering my front

Stun lance supreme

[odd arch]

lmao

the rest of the team died three times each since I joined

I died once going to see if ballistic shield works against the predator hunter whatever they're called gangly bugs

it didd not

immediately kicked

also I pressed quickplay while hovering over squid territory and still got matched into bugs

[cobalt patrol]

You have to actually click onto a planet - if you match while in the galaxy screen, it assumes anywhere

There's no way afaik to say "I wanna fight bots, but I don't care which planet"

[winter shuttle]

indeed

[split parcel]

Just got the chemical agents warbond, having a blast with it

[odd arch]

yeah

reception was bad but no duds in it in the current patch imo

I'm a jank connoisseur so I even like the steriliser

[split parcel]

Oh I'm going full fart slave

Full gas armor, gas grenades, dog breath, sterilizer, gas mines, gas strike

[graceful bluff]

there is nothing that's just visual in this game

you can deflect cannon blasts if the deflection is good enough

[odd arch]

something often overlooked about the steriliser is that it has double the range of the flamer and no fire delay

so you can whip it out for a short sweep at a safe range and carry on

[upbeat vector]

Is Super Credit farming the same as it used to be or am I just jumping to conclusions after a bad run

[strange vine]

its the same

[upbeat vector]

Okay, thank you

[odd arch]

the game develops sentience when you try to farm

solo? 3 bunkers

team? no bunkers

[verbal summit]

This is why I always play with me cus I just get lucky

[odd arch]

the intruder

[verbal summit]

We were busy aura farming n hype moments

That's why we kept dying over n over too

[odd arch]

eagle pilot crying in the cockpit

gonna make an epic stim pistol montage

quickscope transitions but it's me healing you for 3 HP

[verbal summit]

Real

It was honestly very appreciated

I was ftontlining with the shield n spear while you'd heal me

[odd arch]

I imagine being able to sprint away because melee doesn't empty your stamina anymore is the biggest benefit

would be actually cracked with experimental infusion but me broke

[verbal summit]

Same

The 1 warbond I don't have that'd actually be useful

Tomorrow I'm gonna be grinding sc again anyway cus I'm at 620 and I want the 1k for the new warbond.

[odd arch]

oh also

I was doubting the "worse ergonomics = less sway" thing but the stim pistol sways like CRAZY

and I think it's because they were like "it's a stim pistol who cares" and just maxed them out

[verbal summit]

Bigger ergonomics number is literally just less sway

I assume anyway

[odd arch]

other way around

weapons that have good ergonomics (big number) sway more

[verbal summit]

It's very noticeable when you compare it with eruptor vs erupot without the right parts.

That's what I'm sahing

Bigger number is less sway

[odd arch]

minor typo

[verbal summit]

Oh

Well eruptor has low number n sways a lot then when you get bigger ergonomics number it sways less

[odd arch]

sway is the reticle jumping around on its own, drag (ability to follow your cursor) is ergonomics

[verbal summit]

Ah

[odd arch]

stim shotgun when?

[verbal summit]

Instant overdose

[graceful bluff]

fuck stim shotgun, stim barrage

gatling barrage but stims

[keen zinc]

YES

orbital stimulant airburst

[harsh kayak]

380mm stim barrage

[keen zinc]

Airburst barrage but it just scatters stim spray all over

[verbal summit]

380 mm stim barrage but the projectiles are stims so they're tiny and it's a 1 in a billion it actually hits anyone

[upbeat vector]

380 airburst barrage

ugh am I just getting unlucky or do you usually only get 10 SC a mission

[verbal summit]

No I think you're getting unlucky

Best to get a 2nd person and do difficulty 1 missions n quit when you've found all points of interest

[upbeat vector]

I've been doing difficulty 1 missions for over an hour now and I got... 40 credits?

[verbal summit]

That's crazy

Are you sure you're not missing points of interest? Taking the car for quick travel?

[upbeat vector]

I'm taking the car

I have no clue if I'm missing points it's not like they're marked on the map

I think I'm going everywhere on the map?

How many points are typically on a mission because I've been getting like, 4-5 each mission

[dry canopy]

some mission types are also worse for this - 'kill target' takes up a lot of map space

etc

[upbeat vector]

Been doing escape pod data and terminate broadcasts, mostly

[dry canopy]

I think there's usually about eight or so? that's offhand though

some can be kind of hidden

[verbal summit]

I think more

I just generally drive a circle around the map covering the outsides n finding stuff

Then I look at the map n if I feel.like some spots are empty I'll revisit

Just in cae

Case

[dry canopy]

at diff 1 the minimap pretty much just shows you most of them

[upbeat vector]

I've been driving in a circle and I'm not seeing anything :(

Compass shows some question marks and I go to them, and then I drive along the empty spaces on the map

...
I did just get almost 100 from one mission now

And then nothing again

[hazy oriole]

now if only i had a firedog to pair with it

[odd arch]

the uav booster expands compass radar range I think...?

but only shipping containers and hellpods contain SC so half the POIs on the radar are duds

I became very fond of the bug zapper special for illuminate

gas mines followed by tesla tower in the center

I just walk away while the entire drop wave fries itself

sometimes harvesters drop the tower early but they spend most of their time looking at it perplexed

[upbeat vector]

1,000 super credits!

[upbeat vector]

I think that planet may just have been cursed

[graceful bluff]

Achiss 3 on the bug front is amazing for credit farming

really easy to see poi's on the map

[upbeat vector]

That may be where I ended up going

[upbeat vector]

Now I just need to do this so many more times because I'm like 7 warbonds behind 😭

[keen zinc]

<@&1206091872716595200> anyone want to fight for democracy maybe?

[timber hatch]

At work my friend, or I would.

[clever bane]

im free now if you still are!

[graceful bluff]

I thought of another tesla stratagem I really want

basically a pair of spikes you throw in the ground they make a stream between the two

but they link to all spikes in range so you can create a wall

||Linking to all spikes in range also means the one on your back||

[cobalt patrol]

Strategem that's just a prom from astral chain, complete with the separate out and use the chain to bounce things

[ionic holly]

Apologies as this has likely being asked a good few times, whats a good planet to run for SC right now?

[cobalt patrol]

It hasn't actually, so I'm not sure! I think that there's a bug planet that's popular

[ionic holly]

Bug planets are usually more popular for em in general to be fair, less enemies that can try to fire at you given the lack of guns

But yeah thanks penguin, i admittedly forgot how slow it can be so probably not something to do when i'm tired

[cobalt patrol]

It's best to do it in pairs. Then you just take light armor, stamina booster & uav, jetpacks

And you can run around looking for bunkers etc

Do you know the trick for seeing through bunker doors?

[ionic holly]

Nope, I just avoid them cause i prefer to not drag someone into my own hells usually

[cobalt patrol]

Dive against the bunker door, then switch to first person view

Done right your camera clips through

[ionic holly]

Fair

[graceful bluff]

acriss 3 is great for it at the moment

[graceful bluff]

it's real good for the rally car strat too

where one drives while the other makes the route

[verbal summit]

I drive real good trust me

[graceful bluff]

https://www.nexusmods.com/helldivers2/mods/4535

Ooh someone finally made a mod like this

[supple siren]

god i hope they never adjust the car physics it's just as stupid as it should be

[verbal summit]

Yes

Vroooom

[graceful bluff]

https://youtu.be/L06G1KrlEb0

There's so many good audio replacements nowadays

[unreal merlin]

The car is excellent to drive once you learn the unimaginable trick of not constantly accelerating at top speed.

[odd arch]

first gear to the rescue

[graceful bluff]

https://youtu.be/f-ea7vns8hI

[unreal merlin]

Proper use of gear shifting is advanced driver skills

[split parcel]

Man the gas grenades are so good

[unreal merlin]

Easily my favorite grenade

Buys time like a stun grenade, kills chaff like an incendiary grenade, still counts as explosive if you need to destroy an outpost/nest

[graceful bluff]

I like the quantity of the firework grenades but yeah the gas grenades are still my favourite

[oblique hazel]

<@&1206091872716595200> anyone up to dive?

I'm getting really frustrated by randoms with bad boosters rn

[odd arch]

how would groups here feel about me not using voice

that's the main thing stopping me from joining

[oblique hazel]

I'm not on talking either, get in here

<@&1206091872716595200> 2 1 more for bots

[odd arch]

in a bit

like 5m

[cobalt patrol]

Plenty of us dont use voice here. Like i will talk sometimes, but often i just join @stone bridge and @hexed steeple and dont even enter the bvoice chat hcannel, because i can game or use voice, but dont have the spoons for both

As long as everyone rembers to look at chat, it's all good 🙂

[hexed steeple]

ashley

[odd arch]

flashbacks to jumping into dif8 squids and finding myself with empty pockets and out of breath

because the team took expert extraction and flexible reinforcement

(I looked at what they took and grabbed vitality)

[stone bridge]

ashley

[cobalt patrol]

Ashley ashley ashley

[verbal summit]

Who up grinding they ac

Sc

Every time I look at this again I giglw

Giggle

Weeeeee

He's so happy

[oblique hazel]

not gonna ping again, but we got space for one more on bots

if anyone would like to join

[idle hollow]

https://tenor.com/view/bleak-it's-bleak-shaking-head-its-bleak-black-and-white-gif-9592734580409210082

[oblique hazel]

I hope this turns into the squids actually establishing territory and turning into a normal faction

[odd arch]

if the automatons had american football players their success rate would skyrocket

thought brought to you: ducking and weaving straight towards the orbital cannons

[oblique hazel]

the heavy devs need to get in shieldwalls to stop us

[odd arch]

top 10 satisfying eagle airstrikes

[weary granite]

Quarterback Devastator with Jet Boosters :3

It's about to Reinhardt charge and pancake you into a wall.

[odd arch]

give them the hoarah loux divebomb just for the comedic value

it's pretty funny how both jet brigade and incineration corps do a lot to remove the main threat of automatons

because the troopers that could spam flares before now explode in chain reactions or from being looked at by someone smelling vaguely of laser

and their backpacks explode from AoEs that leave normal troopers alive but stumbling

[idle hollow]

Give them the guttertank punch

https://tenor.com/view/ultrakill-guttertank-punch-gif-11670915335545447470

[odd arch]

red glint in the vein of cannons but you dive to the ground expecting a shot and instead the whole robot slides towards you at mach fuck

[idle hollow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tlmswau6--I the last thing a diver ever hears when they go up against the raven brigade subfaction of the automatons

[odd arch]

anti infantry pile bunker

[odd arch]

evil round

stingray stuck looping extract for 20 minutes, overseers walking after us awkwardly with no weapons in their hands, harvesters regrowing their horns

my experience is relatively bug free so this was the bug georg of matches

[odd arch]

also, found out that enemies don't have falling animations

a trooper walked over my EAT hellpod as it deployed and got catapulted into the sky

[graceful bluff]

<@&1206091872716595200> Time to teach those squiddos a lesson https://discord.com/channels/426286410496999425/1381336650059354112

[split parcel]

Yall full up?

[odd arch]

if tesla tower has no fans, I'm dead

duel of the fates

[verbal summit]

Do they actually attack each other?

[odd arch]

illuminate attacks but can't destroy the tesla

the tesla doesn't register it as an enemy ig

the last time I used the tesla it'd zap other turrets, resupplies, dropped gear and I think even samples

it doesn't anymore so seems they made it enemies only

[calm sorrel]

the secret technique is to wear the cutting edge armour and stand exactly halfway between the tesla tower and the one who called it in

[odd arch]

tesla reminds gatling sentry users that we are all equal in the end

[verbal summit]

My intentions were evil

But fun was had

[graceful bluff]

https://youtu.be/6vZ7KbhRpRY

This mod makes stingrays both very obvious and very terrifying

[split parcel]

Is there an incendiary shotgun?

[graceful bluff]

there's two

cookout for pump action and damage, breaker incendiary for area

[split parcel]

Gotcha. Trying to think of good weapons to go along with a full gas build

Dog Breath makes me think close range stuff will be best but I'm unsure

And I'm pretty enamored with the idea of like, double DoT damage from fire and gas

[graceful bluff]

fire is a side thing for the cookout but can deal with stuff well with pure damage, while the breaker has a duckbill option which means it spreads it out a ton

[stone bridge]

Cookout/Gas Dog is a top tier loadout into bugs in general but especially Predator Strain

[split parcel]

Is gas dog + sterilizer overkill?

[graceful bluff]

yes, both do shit damage

[split parcel]

Gotcha. Could at least be funny with a good team

Might consider the flamethrower instead of the sterilizer then

[graceful bluff]

now that's a good combo

Personally I'm looking forward to sterilizer+arc dog

[unreal merlin]

Gas doesn't do remarkable dps by itself, but it's very good at killing mass light enemies and the confusion effect works on heavy enemies. I'd say pick either gas dog OR sterilizer as they don't stack

[split parcel]

yeah thinking of flamethrower + gas dog

just gotta farm up the medals now lmao

[stone bridge]

Have you considered a Torcher instead? It takes your primary slot but still has most of the oomf a support flamer has

[dry canopy]

breaker incendiary is quite nice, imo. full choke and duckbill both have their place with it, depending on how easy it is to light your targets on fire.

[split parcel]

i have barely considered anything because i don't really know anything lol

i'm like level 40

[stone bridge]

Haha that's fair

I do like the Torcher from Freedom's Flame a lot

[barren iron]

this is funny, I would say to take the flamethrower

over the torcher

[split parcel]

Freedom's Flames seems like the best warbond for that kinda thing if i wanna go that route

[graceful bluff]

Taking the torcher over the flamethower means you can run another strategic weapon

to deal with the heavily lacking anti tank capabilities of the build

[supple siren]

Torcher + Gas Dog + EAT has been real fun for bugs

except shriekers it is abundantly not good at shriekers bring something for that or have faith in your comrades

[graceful bluff]

torcher gas dog railguns also great vs bots

[supple siren]

I struggle with flames into bots

the heavydevastating of it

[graceful bluff]

recently fire has been doing real good work vs bots I feel

[split parcel]

I'm mostly looking to maximize the meme of a double DoT build by way of fire + gas

[graceful bluff]

I mean you might as well do full team hater build

[supple siren]

Brought the Ceremonial Sword to bots recently for fashion and I wish it did better against medium enemies because god it makes a satisfying sound

[graceful bluff]

torcher, gas dog, arc thrower, mines, arc tower

[supple siren]

The Elements Build is fun tbh

just also happens to be teamkill central

idk when they buffed the arc tower jump range but goddamn

[graceful bluff]

oh yeah it's great

[supple siren]

i swear the bugs understand how it works sometimes

[graceful bluff]

it also stunlocks hulks

and chargers

[supple siren]

ogh i wanna play with the arc dog a'ready

need to know where it sits

[stone bridge]

Taking a big flamer means having to gorge on anti-tank gear to compensate, not my preference

[barren iron]

Big disagree

It's good vs every bug except the impaler

Or, more specifically, viable vs every bug

[stone bridge]

"just viable" doesn't work for me

[barren iron]

If you're not fighting a horde you can kill a bile titan in 6 seconds with it

Charger, 3

But it's an amazing horde clear and area denial weapon that can be used against heavy bugs in a pinch

Very well, too

Imo the most versatile support weapon in the game vs bugs, right next to the AC but the AC struggles with bts

Similarly have realised I do not like the AC vs bots

I say similarly: i mentioned the AC so my train of thought is like that

[stone bridge]

That's cool! I'd still prefer a Quasar to one shot them from a distance

[barren iron]

And that's very very valid!

It's the tradeoff though

[supple siren]

Eat ITs the favorite, like if rocketlaunchers were popcorn

[barren iron]

Quasar isn't making a field of fire or clearing everything else out

[oblique hazel]

Out of curiosity cat, what primary are running with this build?

[supple siren]

That's what the torcher is for!

Imo the thrower should get more range

[barren iron]

Usually a shotgun

[supple siren]

It needs a more potent difference

[barren iron]

Depends on mood but almost exclusively the pump action shotguns

Since they have good knockback

For secondary I run the polar patriots pistol and my backpack is the ballistic guard dog

[oblique hazel]

Mhm ok. I've been dabbling in flamethrowering myself recently, and that's the same conclusion I came to

For folks here advocating for Torcher, what do you do when the bugs get right on top of you?

[supple siren]

Torch them

( jetpack )

But also gas grenades or some kind of dog

[barren iron]

I am mostly team play focused and this build doesn't work too great without a team backing you up

[supple siren]

If they're all upon me things have gone terribly wrong

Oh yeah will say all mine come with the caveat of "a man with a Recoilless is ten feet to my right"

[barren iron]

I've started to become a huge sentry fan

[supple siren]

8-10 has enough heavies that doubling down on anti tank feels very worthwhile

The sentries are wildly good

[barren iron]

If I feel like I need AT I just run the rocket sentry

[supple siren]

I like a hastier answer

[barren iron]

That's what the stun grenades are for!!!!

[supple siren]

Also jetpack into eat-it to Titan Face is immensely satisfying

[barren iron]

I love the recoilless

[supple siren]

All the rockets in this game have a good pop

[barren iron]

My go to AT build is recoilless with reprimand and polar patriots pistol, then RR and whatever reds I feel like

Usually eagle 500, airstrike and strafing run

[supple siren]

I like the backpacks too much for RR (also the aforementioned friend that cant get enough of them )

But I bring them to Iluminate now

Making Leviathans scream.. ogh

The planet heard that

[barren iron]

See I bring exclusively the stalwart and rely on my 2 500kgs to kill harvesters

But also I refuse to play on maps with leviathans

[supple siren]

See I adore them

The stuff people hate about them? I love that

[barren iron]

Easily the least fun enemy in the game

Yea I would like to get hit with laser accuracy across the map by a ohk weapon

By something with 12000 hp

[supple siren]

They miss so often

But it does seem a bit random

I bring AT Emplacements and just sit there watching them pepper the surroundings

[barren iron]

They hit enough that I don't want to build my whole loadout to fight them, and I feel like I have to

[supple siren]

ahh, yeaah

I go Eruptor, Talon, RR

Solves.. mooost?

But also gas mines/gas grenades carry

[barren iron]

Yeah my go to illuminate is stalwart and eruptor

[oblique hazel]

I didn't mind the Leviathans on super earth that much

[barren iron]

Yeah they were fine but annoying on SE

[supple siren]

I found them more annoying on SE!

[barren iron]

It's these giant open fields I fucking hate th3m on

[supple siren]

They'd hit you through gaps you don't see

[oblique hazel]

But I'm thoroughly fed up with them on the normal squid maps

[graceful bluff]

orbital gatling(and strafe run) absolutely tears them apart

but you have to work to get them to hit

[oblique hazel]

I did one op with them and will not be going back to the squid front until AH does something about them

[barren iron]

They arent on all planets

[graceful bluff]

yeah it's a planet modifier

[supple siren]

My co-op frien feels this way about the Fleshmobs

But utterly refuses to adjust build

[graceful bluff]

it's basically their hunter strain

[barren iron]

Fleshmobs are a fucking pain but you can use the eruptors to kill em

Eruptor takes like 3 hirs

It's kinda crazy

[supple siren]

Purifier, eruptor, lotta the high RPM weapons

[graceful bluff]

the lib carb also tears em apart

[barren iron]

Yeah the lib carb

Did you know a mag of the lib carb is

3300 damage?

[graceful bluff]

once fully upgraded the lib carbs basically a stalwart

[barren iron]

Yesss I love it

Get the short mags with siege ready

And the reload time is basically nothing

[graceful bluff]

if you don't like it early on just commandeer a team mates gun :v

[barren iron]

Lib carb is amazing even base

But you get it a foregrip?

Mmmmm

[graceful bluff]

yeah the recoils a bit hard for some people especially on bot front though

once upgraded it's just a beam

[barren iron]

Oh yeah on bot front

[supple siren]

I've been Reprimanding bots

[graceful bluff]

it's amazing for devastators if you can pop heads though

[barren iron]

Get it upgraded and its recoil pattern is devastator head-shaped

[supple siren]

They hate it

[graceful bluff]

huge damage huge rpm

[barren iron]

Reprimand with 1.5x scope

My beloved

[graceful bluff]

the 2x tube scope is my favourite by far at this point and I love how basically every gun can run it

[supple siren]

more upgrades for the Explosive Crossbow

spread shot let's go

[barren iron]

Noooo

[graceful bluff]

explosive crossbow upgrade that makes the explosive whatever grenade you're running

[barren iron]

lmfao

[supple siren]

Thermite Crossbow

[barren iron]

Thermite crossbow

YEP

[graceful bluff]

drone crossbow

[barren iron]

Best at weapon in the game

[supple siren]

Ogh drone crossbow..

Those little guys do surprising work

[graceful bluff]

drones tear gunships apart and I love em on the bot front

[supple siren]

Does feel a bit like gambling

But that means you get to be "what do you mean 22"

[barren iron]

The seeker nades are cool

[graceful bluff]

they go after the target you marked

[barren iron]

Havent got em yet

I've been super credit farming and now I only have chemical and borderline to get

[supple siren]

Oh wait like ping Mark? Or aim direction

[barren iron]

Ping

[supple siren]

well dang

I've definitely just been To Whom It May Concerning them

[barren iron]

Which means my medals are currently split between masters of ceremony, urban legends, servants of freedom and freedom's flame

[graceful bluff]

They ignored the ping mark half the time when they first released

so it's kinda become a lost knowledge

[barren iron]

Which is nice to finally have smthn to unlock again

[supple siren]

I've felt that way about weapon xp

Now just need a better offload for samples

Give me a Hitman Stock Market button

That arbitrarily does things with them

[graceful bluff]

only thing I don't like about the weapon xp system is that it kinda forces you to pick weapons that might not be good for the faction

cause you either run a level 25 weapon that's good, or you run something that isn't really good for the faction

funnily enough this is how I found out that the lib carbs actually good vs bots though

[oblique hazel]

There's been some murmurings of leaked ||tier 6 ship upgrades, which will be a good sample sink if true||

[graceful bluff]

any murmurings of ||vehicle upgrades||?

[oblique hazel]

Not that I've heard unfortunately

[graceful bluff]

it definitely feels like they're missing something at their current

[oblique hazel]

Yeah definitely

[cobalt patrol]

I've seen the screenshots of ||The ship upgraded with them. It's flags. falgs everywhere. it's funny||

Re: Flamethrower, i wish it had just a little bit of stagger/pushback on it

[ionic holly]

the fireworks grenade is
so deceptively effective

this thing has mulched everything i've used it on, i'm pretty sure the only heavy it didn't successfully kill was a strider

and that's a strider

[cobalt patrol]

Apperntly rtepeated ones to the feet can kill a facotry strider

[ionic holly]

I wouldn't doubt it

genuinely just such an insane grenade

[oblique hazel]

yeah, the sparkles are AP5 and deal 50 damage per tick

very solid option

[strange vine]

20 iirc

[ionic holly]

Which adds up

way faster than i thought it would

[strange vine]

it shoots a lot of them out

[ionic holly]

It's one of the big grenade types i wanted

consistent area denial

the amount of damage is just a bonus

i know we have other incen grenades and gas nades but they just don't do it as well, least to me

they're not bad nades at all, just that i have specific taste

kinda like joe the urchin will 100% appeal to another type of grenade i wanted

[dry canopy]

I mean honestly it mostly doesn't! at least if you're using gas mines

and know what the arc thrower's chaining cone looks like

[ionic holly]

Oh right fun question, what do we think the new AR is gonna have customization wise?

it looks like it uses liberator mags so i'm curious if it'll get access to drums

[graceful bluff]

yeah the firework grenade just absolutely mulches bot patrols

[oblique hazel]

I know its a bit of an awkward time, but is anyone up to dive <@&1206091872716595200> ?

[sage plume]

I am awake (barely, gimme like 15mins)

[odd idol]

onmw

[stone bridge]

rate my fit

[sage plume]

wonderfull fit

(i sometimes wish there either was a variant or an option to have that helmet without the power scanner)

oh yeah the rating 10/10 great work

[weary granite]

My god, they need to bring back guaranteed SEAF Anti-Air on the Illuminate Front because those Leviathans are fucking cunts.

That or nerf the shit out of their spawn rate

Destroying one is such a time sink that the next two spawn in after dealing with the first one.

[supple siren]

Reduce the spawn rate, keep the corpses around /nod nod

[weary granite]

Aside from that, they should decrease the accuracy on their guns. I get launched up by the first shot, bounced by the second, and then spiked into the ground at mach 5 by the third shot!

[odd arch]

shoutout to the two leviathans that hit me in the same frame

[oblique hazel]

Any build that uses that helmet well is an easy 10/10. If you're looking for ideas though, the orange and gray Freedom's Flame cape (The Breach) could fit really well here

[stone bridge]

that'd be fun yeah

ooh that looks good

good shout cheese

[oblique hazel]

That's my favorite helmet, and that's my go-to cape to pair it with. There are very few armor sets that work with one but not the other

[odd arch]

thinking about what'd be the best loadout that nukes leviathans but isn't dead weight for the rest of the match

ATEmplacement can do it with one slot but many things can go wrong with it

my inner gremlin is leaning towards littering the entire map with EATs and commandos, since there'd be so many that they could be used on harvesters and fleshmobs on a whim

[hearty pier]

a recoilless can drop a leviathan with a single additional resupply pack (or an ammo heavy POI). If you coordinate you could always bring a supply pack to donate to a teammate. Recoilless isn't as dominant into squids as it is to the other factions, but it's far from dead weight

[graceful bluff]

Saw a really neat suggestion for a lingering aircraft instead of just having the pelican circle above

eagle 1, but with a fuckload of wasp pods

[cobalt patrol]

While objectively near, the the question of how different that is to a barrage mechanically. (Presumably, targeting, but then you also get balance concerns. I think it's cool overall)

Admittedly, I now have the idea of Orbital Railcannon Barrage, and I wants it.

Just imagine a market and anything that entered the area gets it's own laser pointer of doom on it