Helldivers 2: For Managed Democracy!

[cobalt patrol]

which is uh

well

It's the pummler?

[winter shuttle]

its gotten bether as well

democratic detonations for me is THE warbound

[oblique lotus]

plas punisher is solid

[karmic prawn]

Yeah I have about half the warbonds currently so I have a solid mix. I feel impact incendiary might push polar patriots to the top for me to nab next though

[winter shuttle]

i....wait

the constitucion is mediun pen

why is the amendment light then ?

[karmic prawn]

Because it's a parade gun?

[winter shuttle]

so its the constitucion

hell the amendment is a modified constitucion.....

[karmic prawn]

Guess they amended it

[cobalt patrol]

rate of fire

[winter shuttle]

its the same caliber !

a mp9 and a clock 19, both firing a standard round of 9mm, still do the same damage, one just fires more then the other

but yes

game balance wise i get its just....the constitucion is a bolt action and more of a joke gun, the only other medium pen marksman rifle is the Diligence C

well pardon i forget the deadeye is a thing

[cobalt patrol]

I was about to say

also lol

keep telling the newie on the team to wait

just wait

dont keep trying to tilt at the monolith and fial

He tries YET again, ignoring the fact i've just called something in

and am running like hell

Cue SEAF mininuke landing on it

[karmic prawn]

Oh yeah PSA: The gatling barrage will outright kill grounded warp ships now

[oblique hazel]

Oh huh

That means strafing run probably does too

[cobalt patrol]

Potentially - they got actual hp. Gattling b reaks the shield nad i think keeps going long enough it'll do enough daamge to mulch em

[ionic holly]

Oh dear
so its just wait now, huh?

[oblique hazel]

for a couple hours yeah

somethings gonna happen when the major order expires

||sony leaked that there's gonna be a major named update dropping at normal tuesday update time tonight, which will presumably start whatever's next for the invasion||

[ionic holly]

||Wooo boy||
||hope its not too big so i can get to it fast||

[oblique hazel]

||update may be the wrong term, all the new stuff could have been in last week's update, its just getting released now||

||or its an actual update and I'm just talking out of my ass lol. We don't actually know what its gonna be, just that its name||

||Heart of Democracy||

[hazy oriole]

|| what time is that exactly? ||

[cobalt patrol]

1 hour, 50 minutes from now

[karmic prawn]

I suspect it's going to be at least a moderate patch because they didn't want stuff to get data mined, if it does happen today

[cobalt patrol]

Well, we know some stuff did get datamined

Which is how we know about ||Super Cities||

[hazy oriole]

ffffffffffuuuuuuuuck no way i can stay up that late

dag nabbit

[cobalt patrol]

Yeah, dont, goto bed

sleep[

it'll be there in the morning

[hazy oriole]

bweghhhhhh yeah, you're right

i am super excited though (pun not intended)

[karmic prawn]

Yeah I was pretty sure they'd add ||all urban maps|| the moment they said the violence was inescapable

[quick plinth]

ah I got it now, the setting "destroyer indicator, only works on city maps"

we haven't seen city maps just yet now have we?

[blissful sparrow]

"A moment of silence for the fallen. Now get back to work"

[lethal delta]

When is the update dropping?

In an hour?

[cobalt patrol]

If an update drops, then within 40 minutes

[lethal delta]

Ty ty

[cobalt patrol]

(and closer to the 40 minute flag than not)

HD2 discord avatar just changed too

So uh

Mars just ||Got glassed||

Also, various Squid units are "invading" the discord

(*offical discord)

Channel names are changing too

[karmic prawn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/526186568038350878/1374307726364119091/image.png?ex=682d934f&is=682c41cf&hm=375d8e7d0a1c4c1a41a973440c6f288b73c1aeb7923d74d5c98a06928f753cd6&

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1103229065395191849/1374305376144457788/image.png?ex=682d911f&is=682c3f9f&hm=db708050cb40ce76bb01fd948cf9d5134aaad762aa62427c6eeba8d90fa01bfc&

[cobalt patrol]

Mods on the discord are being replaced by Voteless

[fringe quiver]

Ahh yes

The discord spam

[ionic holly]

not gonna lie sitting here listening to megalobox while waiting to get to action is
funny

Oh, update spotted

[cobalt patrol]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmXtgHs2ODg

[ionic holly]

11 gigs
god damnit

[cobalt patrol]

11.8 gig update

[ionic holly]

yeah gonna be a while before i can get in

i did see a new launcher strat in the trailer though

[cobalt patrol]

Laughs in NZer

[sage plume]

oh another update :( (i dont want to wait another 6 hours to play the game again)

[karmic prawn]

Oh the squids decided they need more air support huh

Good for them

Good for everyone

[fringe quiver]

the illuminate is trying to delay the reinforcements by making the update big

[sage plume]

i was hoping this was going to be packaged in the previous update

[ionic holly]

Wait no that was just a spear as seen from the front

[hexed steeple]

drone fixed baybee

[cobalt patrol]

I love that it's an update this big

and the patch notes are this minaml

DATAMINERS GO

[stone bridge]

gun drone is so back

[ionic holly]

Gonna be a solid few hours due to my fuckass wifi

[fringe quiver]

don't you know, after you download the update, that's when the update begins

[ionic holly]

But i will wait patiently

[cobalt patrol]

No new modules or warbonds in game 😦

or new strats

SO at least, nothing released yet

[stone bridge]

how do you know

did you download it that fast? lmao

[cobalt patrol]

Cos i'm in game

I am queing up a dive right now

[cobalt patrol]

NZ actually investedi n it's internet is the answer >.> (One reaosn i'd be less keen on moving to aus if i had reason too is because i know ya'll have pretty crap internet)

[stone bridge]

lul

[hexed steeple]

im finished

[ionic holly]

NOOOOOOOOOO

Wait thats just for re-arming, ill live

[stone bridge]

epic

should have been 1 minute

[sage plume]

i hope its JUST going to take 3 hours to do the entire thing not the reserving space bit

[oblique hazel]

should be for the whole thing hopefully lol

[cobalt patrol]

Seemingly ||just one new enemy in game atm. Which i have no idea if you can kill, it seems more like aggressive scenery||

[sage plume]

i hope youre right

[lethal delta]

Trailer shows you can

[viscid salmon]

yeah they hit it with a Recoiless iirc

[lethal delta]

Whether it is accurate or not, that's a different thing

[cobalt patrol]

I saw in teh trailer, but in game ||Even ap4 deflects, coudlnt find any weak spot||

[oblique hazel]

ok so I've had one floating around my game, they have 3 weakspots on the underside that I was able to pen with my commando, but they're tanky as all hell and I'm pretty sure you need to pop them all to actually take it down

they didn't seem all that threatening though tbh

[stone bridge]

one of the SEAF soldiers has a thick new york accent and its very funny

[cobalt patrol]

I couldn't find any with ap4, so it must be ap5. I'm assuming the big glowy ciurcles? are the weak spots

[hexed steeple]

just heard a citizen or seaf soldier yell 'IT'S JUST LIKE IN DA MOVIES'

[sage plume]

uhoh

[quick plinth]

ro-rough

[sage plume]

(ik it fluctuates its just so funny it went THAT high)

[quick plinth]

idk how they manage it but HD2 is the only game that I've ever seen do this kinda thing when updating on steam

[oblique hazel]

yeah, tho tbh I'm not sure I can really call them that. it took like 3 full commandos to pop 1

[sage plume]

im uhhhh scared to say the least

[weary granite]

Bruh, the new trailer dropped and I am scared.

[quick plinth]

-# girl who has only played HALO
getting a lot of New Mombasa vibes from this

[ionic holly]

pfft

also aghhhh
8 gigs left to go

[idle hollow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_MuEQHa5-s

are you ready

[blissful sparrow]

its basically engine dependent, as different engines structure the game resources differently
Steam can only download whole files for an update and unpack, change and insert changes. So if the engine packages a lot of files into a single bundle, thats a lot of unpacking necessary for any changes.

[ionic holly]

I know payday 2 had a really fucked up way of updating but iunno how much that compares to this

[quick plinth]

bug
||welp the cannon mission is bugged, doesn't progress past 6/8 no matter how many times I "testfire" the cannon||

[ionic holly]

Woof.

||ALSO YO SOMEONE ELSE WHO USES THAT HELMET AND ARMOUR COMBO, MY BUDDY||

[quick plinth]

roadblock+kodiak helment is goated

[hexed steeple]

on average lose like 500 requisition slips per mission (like detracted from the reward) due to citizens having a very poor sense of where to run in a dangerous situation

[ionic holly]

Woof, yeah that was admittedly my biggest worry with the whole "civilians and seaf are around!"

[quick plinth]

||I didn't investigate, but there might be a way to aim the cannon that I missed?||

[sudden crown]

<@&1206091872716595200> anyone want dive?

[stone bridge]

||You did rotate it and elevate the cannon like it told you to right?||

[ionic holly]

Oh right, got the pyrotechnics

to my surprise, i like em

carrying 6 without EK is certainly helping that though

[quick plinth]

|| I didn't really tell me, at least not that I noticed, my mistake really I wasn't paying full attention||

[cobalt patrol]

MO: Kill da squids

Also i watched a SEAF solider yell about being flanked, then proceed to open fire on the supply drop.

Guessing that FREEGUM doesnt do your brain much good

[ionic holly]

So as long as we win one we, bare minimum, dont lose super earth?

[cobalt patrol]

The loss condtion for SE is "All mega cities are taken"

We don't yet know the win condtion

[south temple]

holy shit the breaker incin feels awesome on the streets

[ionic holly]

Fair
either way, jobs to do, bodies to drop

[karmic prawn]

I just watched the Illuminate bomb a children's playground. Truly they hate all that is good.

[ionic holly]

YO THEY CAN PACK EATS?

[weary granite]

God damn it, my game could not update any faster

[ionic holly]

I got 3~ gigs to go

[hexed steeple]

anyone figure out how to explode leviathans good yet

[south temple]

~12 rocket shots from a mech

[weary granite]

Is that what the Illuminate assault ships are called?

"Leviathan"

[keen zinc]

14 shots from the ATE

[quick plinth]

roughly

[karmic prawn]

Wonder if they have any weak points

[quick plinth]

probably

[keen zinc]

EDF says the circles are weakspots

[ionic holly]

EDF also says frogs look like humans, to be fair

[burnt vapor]

Gotta say the SEAF go hard until they start using their grenades
having like 3 dudes mow down a horde of voteless as I aim the cannon was an experience

[runic cairn]

can't believe they hit the liberty towers

and I can't play because of exams :(

[fringe quiver]

Do the Seaf kills count towards the major order?

[agile fable]

Let’s hope

[idle hollow]

took a stim bolt to the head

[ionic holly]

is that hunter the parenting?

[grave sail]

Yeah

[stuck ravine]

https://youtu.be/MmXtgHs2ODg

[sage plume]

its uhhh going better now, over half way yippie

a bit over four hours so far huh

[hexed steeple]

metropolis map quite pleasant, very fond of this update

[tight zephyr]

It looks sick, I’m really excited to give it a shot after work.

[hexed steeple]

was pleasantly alerted to how considerate of you super destroyer position you have to be wrt oribtals when my orbital gas wrecked the side of a very very democratic skyscraper

[north fiber]

clearly the skyscraper was full of voteless so you heroically saved the lives of many civilians with that strike

[hexed steeple]

yay!

[rare nymph]

Yet another example of the staggering tactical genius of Helldivers

[hexed steeple]

the seaf soldiers are so funny too

shot down some voteless in a pretty normal way and one of them just starts gassing me up

'you're the best of the best!'

[lethal delta]

I love firing the cannon

I wish it provided a bit more guidance tho

[unreal merlin]

the destroyer does do its best to rotate around the map for a clear line, but clearly it's not perfect and sometimes there's nothing that can be done

[hexed steeple]

it moves?

[winter shuttle]

is this the end of managed democracy ?

no

[quick plinth]

honestly I wonder what would happen if we were to fail

[blissful sparrow]

HD1 says: New Galactic War

Tho as this is a more story based game this time, probably government in exile a bit to the side of the map

[lethal delta]

IIRC, they said they aren't doing it the same as HD1

They want every change to be permanent

[calm sorrel]

Since the Illuminate don't want to take any territory on the south part of the galaxy, we can flee that way if it comes to it

[daring pelican]

I predict they'll flee to the one place they know helldivers will never let fall

The Creek

[fringe quiver]

If each helldicer kills 1,000 illuminate

Then we only need 2.5 mil helldivers

[calm sorrel]

If each helldiver kills 1,000 a day we need less than a million!

[fringe quiver]

If each helldicer kills 10000 illuminate we only need 250k helldivers

[fringe quiver]

Yeah exactly

This one feels more fair

The illuminate invasions seemed impossible tho

But I didnt see a way to quantify them

And it was kinda obv we werent meant to win due to the patch

[calm sorrel]

they shouldn't have offered a medal amount last week if we were always going to be pushed back to here by now

[fringe quiver]

Well I think theoretically if something absolutely bonkers happened we could have won

But then at that point

They 100% would have just made automatons or bugs show up instead

[stark ether]

Ngl hating this you have one operation to pick from thing

[sage plume]

ive been downloading for almost eight hours atp

im so annoyed

has anyone complained to arrowhead about how abysmally optimized their updates are?

its, done, its finally done

<@&1206091872716595200> im making food and then diving whos down

[viscid salmon]

im down

[sudden crown]

me

[grave sail]

https://packaged-media.redd.it/clfnvs65pb1f1/pb/m2-res_480p.mp4?m=DASHPlaylist.mpd&v=1&e=1747774800&s=6c524e5aee66c0ddd7faf2253a42dd9c6ac3c01c

[agile fable]

Christs Below, they hate divers that much?

[oblique lotus]

The payday 2 method decreases download size because you're only sending diffs instead of full files

It has other problems but there are legitimate reasons to do it that way

[marble talon]

the upside: works better on slow internet

the downside: takes a shit ton of time

it needs to modify specific offsets of preexisting files rather than replacing the entire thing

which is performance intensive

as it has to check itself a lot to not write to the wrong place

[oblique lotus]

Payday 2 also compresses a lot of data which reduces disk usage but does mean that updates require decompression, patching, then recompressing

iirc steam does mostly differential updates now as well since it reduces server load

also theoretically there's increased data writing which could be an issue for SSDs but nowadays SSD write endurance is like...150 GB/day for 10 years or something for a 1 TB SSD

Yeah my 980 is specced for 600 TB write endurance so 600000 GB/3650 days = 164 GB/day

[verbal summit]

The horror as I watch my fellow seaf soldiers be obliterated by my teammates

[limber pike]

I accidently (no really) shot a civilian thinking it was voteless and had me like

https://tenor.com/view/spec-ops-the-line-worried-scared-martin-walker-lugo-gif-6898044842207470095

[unreal merlin]

heads up, eagle airstrikes have a tendency to be unpredictable as Eagle 1 tries to fly between the buildings. This may (often) cause the strike to be angled in dangerous ways (e.g. you thought the cluster strike was going to be perpendicular but it was 40 degrees rotated)

[supple siren]

this combined with the new ship placements have stratagems real ornery lately

[shut bane]

This new flag ASMR in the lobby is crazzy

Also just woke up, Rome is burnin

[shut bane]

I need an SEAF squad dropship stratagem

[south temple]

TRUE

[versed hamlet]

rn I just take cover from them
they don't feel as deadly as cannon turrets on bots and there's cover everywhere
🤔 I'm mostly wondering if they respawn/how many there are, to know if killing them is even worth it

[oblique hazel]

I finally actually saw one die, but it took someone magdumping most to all of their patriot's rockets

[shut bane]

Autocannon emplacement is also really good on them

Right into the holes

[unreal merlin]

You need AT-grade weapons to even damage them (RR, EAT, Quasar, AT/E, etc) and you should aim for the big circles underneath.

[versed hamlet]

does spear work? I've seen a few people with spears

[unreal merlin]

Yeah

[shut bane]

Wasp is my favorite weapon in this new front I'm finding

Followed by like, stalwart with eruptor

[versed hamlet]

I'm enjoying laser cannon myself (with another laser for when I don't have it/it's cooling down)

[supple siren]

Eruptor + Antimaterial Rifle

Just have to not mix them up

[shut bane]

I love AMR but yeah fleshmobs make it annoying asfff to use

[keen zinc]

use the scorcher

[supple siren]

Eruptor usually threeshots 'em, they just eat all that shrapnel

[verbal summit]

Amr is cool n all but eruptor just does its job for me

Rather take the laser cannon

[shut bane]

Scorcher feels really good rn too

[keen zinc]

it kills everything good

[verbal summit]

I haven't much tried other weapons since the eruptor just works so well for me

[supple siren]

AMR deletes Striders for me, mostly, but also one-shots any jetpack or Illuminate head

[winter shuttle]

<@&1206091872716595200> any one up for some diving in hell

[terse shoal]

not right now

[undone veldt]

"You feel like a helldiver yet?"

[glad marsh]

Whuh....

[sharp crater]

Helldivers don't grow on trees

[indigo bear]

But...the forms...?

[glad marsh]

Not true, Democracy officer tells us all the time about people being plants

[cobalt patrol]

THere's been billions of casulties

They have probnably relaxed the c-o1 form requriemnts

(relastically, i dont think helldivers would be a sustainble program, the way it chews through 18 year olds)

[glad marsh]

They were reinstated as of the start of the second galactic war, right?

And were otherwise parade/police troops before then post GW1

[karmic prawn]

Super Earth is blatantly trying to reduce its surplus population, so I think that's one driving factor for the Helldivers program

[undone veldt]

My one complaint of this update so far:

Why aren’t they called super cities?

[stone bridge]

beyond super

[split parcel]

This is to go even further beyond

[hazy oriole]

oughhh leviathans are AWFUL

i mean they're designed fantastically and i love seeing them fly over but holy fuck are they annoying lol

[hearty pier]

Two recoilless shots into the joints on each of their front wings take out the turrets a lot quicker than bringing the whole thing down

[cobalt patrol]

But 3 total is all yo uneed to down em

[oblique hazel]

yeah 1 recoilless to each of the glowing circles on their underside kills em

[unreal merlin]

Get generous with it and have a friend team-load to dump rounds into it without any elegance whatsoever :D

[hearty pier]

Good to know, I was just watching the two RR users in my games unload on them without much effect

Shoot the glowing weakspots never fails

[hazy oriole]

i've nailed each one, seen them smoking, and it still won't go down sometimes

[hazy oriole]

will try this tbh

[cobalt patrol]

lol

Right as we're extracitng, SEAF soliders are saluting us as we board

and then a stirngray strafes them all as we take off

RIP frens

[undone veldt]

I gotta say, running around a massive city scape, fighting zombies with a pump action shotgun

Just feels right

[fringe quiver]

anyone know where to find supercredits and warbonds on the city map?

[cobalt patrol]

I'm not are what you mean by warbonds.

Bunkers are more common, but they seem to only have samples in em.

Otherwise you can find the usual seaf crash pods that have sc in them.

There's a lot of pois that just have ammo, weapons & supplies

I have seen Autocannons, eats and mgs all in the city so far

[fringe quiver]

medals

not warbonds

[karmic prawn]

The pods seem to very frequently be clustered with objectives and side objectives too

[winter shuttle]

yhea city maps have that problem, barely any caches, caches being what you can get medals and SC

[fringe quiver]

oh

so it's the dumb escort obj being dumb

rip

[quick crown]

[ionic holly]

2 more levels till i can full choke my spray and pray

amazing how much even just the half choke is helping it

Also, i uh
i cracked a leviathan with the artillery emplacement

it was exhilarating

getting the right angle, aiming ahead just enough to account for the shot's priming

and then watching that thing crash

[strange vine]

https://i.imgur.com/TJ5MciC.mp4

[strange vine]

fuck yeah

[ionic holly]

Big points to full choke on spray and pray

turns the thing into the exact kinda shotgun i was wanting

like
EXACTLY

1.5 tube sight, angular grip, and full choke
i've everything i want on the gun already tbh

[idle hollow]

I have a question

Do the SEAF get in the FRV

[ionic holly]

Probably not? i've not tried driving

between the leviathans being able to make you insta pop and the cars on the road, I think cons outweigh the pros

[lethal delta]

The Halt doesn't have full choke

OOF

[tight zephyr]

This patch certainly does capture the feeling of visiting a city pretty well.

I’m having a better time being chased by Voteless than I generally do actually in a city though. This update rules.

[kind cloud]

Tried it, no

[idle hollow]

Sad

No chips dubbo gaming

[tight zephyr]

They’re surprisingly helpful when they aren’t being extremely liberal with their grenades.

[weary granite]

Turns out that Super Earth Armed Forces saved a lot of money purchasing a lot of grenades instead of ammo.

[tight zephyr]

They took “more bang for your buck” too literally.

[weary granite]

I personally hope we get to have a stratagem and customize a SEAF Squad on the Super Destroyer.

Like the area where we select the patterns for our mechs and FRVs, we can use that space as a place to customize our personal SEAF trooper squad.

After this Major Order of course.

[tight zephyr]

For as stupid as Super Earth is as a regime and how funny the satire is, I do get the feeling of being a cool elite soldier when I run into SEAF squads and I’m using a machine gun like it’s a primary weapon ripping apart a horse of voteless.

And I think that balancing act is something Helldivers has always done well, but it’s way more apparent now. This has been fantastic.

[hazy oriole]

thats her classroom

[weary granite]

Hmm. Concern. Helldivers is crashing when I try to call the resupply.

[stark ether]

so i know the flag isnt good but the flag is fun

[keen zinc]

the best part of the flag is being able to have it on your back like a samurai

[cobalt patrol]

"I saw my first helldiver this afternoon. They were running towards one of those glowing towers that make you teeth vibrate. They fell into an exposed sewer and broke their neck."

"I just saw my first Helldiver today defending Super Earth, and get this, this guy strapped a HELLBOMB to his back, ran into the middle of a squid army, blew himself up, and then just... Stood up, like nothing happened. He said "One hundred and twenty seven, beat that!" and then chest bumped his fellow diver. I asked what in the HELL was that, and he just said "Democracy protects, citizen!" and ran off to do it AGAIN! "

There are two helldiver genders.

[stark ether]

helldivers are either really good at coinflips or really bad, there is no in-between and it changes each respawn

[verbal summit]

I just wanna protect my lil baby seaf soldiers they're so cute

It'd be so cool if they made a stratagems that let you call them in.

Hell make it unlimited like most stratagems n give it a what? 5?7?10? Minute timer or whatever works

I wanna grow an army

[tight zephyr]

The SEAF soldiers seeing my friends and I roll up were probably having a similar experience as guardsmen seeing the Astartes on the scene for the first time right up until my friend got ragdolled and landed in an exposed sewer trench and then I fell in too because I didn’t know it was an instant death pit and tried to retrieve her samples.

Then again, a lot of guardsmen had the experience of seeing an Astartes in the flesh for the first time be me stopping to stare at a parked Leman Russ and talking to my friends about how cool it was when I was playing Space Marine 2.

[viscid salmon]

https://youtu.be/ty73vEndL8k?si=u1eSYYS5qsle0pfE

[verbal summit]

You can shoot them down?

With lasee cannon I mean

[viscid salmon]

yes actually!

break off the wing and then shoot the wound

but you gotta use smth else first

[verbal summit]

Something else?

I can't watch the video rn so that's why I'm asking

[cobalt patrol]

Afaik, they have A5 acrossthe board until you break off bits

[ionic holly]

Spear is also an option

not my preferred, even as one of the resident spear enjoyers, as it lacks usability for anything else on the field and takes 5~ shots

but it's got the ease of it if you've got pickups nearby

[winged patio]

Hate those Trilobite-ass motherfuckers.

[viscid salmon]

use AT to pop off a wing

then any medium can do damage

[ionic holly]

The more i try it the more i think i actually like the Talon

[verbal summit]

talon is very fun

[quick plinth]

talon is a great backup weapon

also 2 people running spear makes sure you won't have a Leviathan problem

but it is a huge investment

[ionic holly]

Im not used to liking a laser weapon is all

[quick plinth]

it's not a laser, its a bolt of energy

[ionic holly]

Energy weapons then if we're being specific.

[idle hollow]

it is

so

so

so

good for bots

[verbal summit]

energy weapons in games are alwyas strange cus 90% of the time laser weapons dont shoot lasers

[ionic holly]

Havent gotten to try it elsewhere due to the amount of illuminate focused MOs

[idle hollow]

Every light guy dies in one shot, devastators aren't much of a match, the scout walkers can be three shot to the legs/shot through the visor

[quick plinth]

its just good overall because it's an infinite ammo med pen senator

[idle hollow]

Only things it can't do anything against are tanks/turrets (unless you shoot the vents at the back) and hulks unless you feel like aiming for the eyelet

[verbal summit]

yeah

[quick plinth]

take it off ur hip, pop the troublemaker and back it goes

[verbal summit]

dont have to bother reloading

[idle hollow]

oh and dropships/gunships

[cobalt patrol]

It's very good! I like it as a reliable backup weapon

[quick plinth]

I don't have to reload

[cobalt patrol]

Where it's overtaken the Verdict for me there

Verdict is better as a secondary-treated-like-aprimary

But the Talon Just Works for for "Oh, something on my arse, die"

[ionic holly]

It does make me realize if we ever got a bushwhacker variant that fired med-pen slugs i would
never use anything else

[idle hollow]

Verdict and the directional shield

With your primary as like

the flamethrower primary

[cobalt patrol]

Though be careful vs illuminate, i have died to illuminate underwear with it

this isnt a joke.

[idle hollow]

And an MG43

[cobalt patrol]

I got knocked over, and the Overseer's crotch armor blocked all the talon shots that i was trying to put into his broken chest plate

[idle hollow]

oh shit

eagleopolis stands

oorah

[cobalt patrol]

MOst hilariously pathetic yet amusing death i've had

[ionic holly]

Barely

[idle hollow]

We're halfway through the MO

20% ois more than 0%

[cobalt patrol]

20% of the city is still roughly upright/has civilians in it.

I like all the signs saying "Helldivers dispensing freedom"

[ionic holly]

Oh yeah no thats more than 0, im not trying to downplay the accomplshment

[idle hollow]

also im surprised how Green the globe is

and how few lights there are outside of megacities

with some places being completely empty like all of the british isles

and all of south america

and australia

[cobalt patrol]

lore wise there was some kind of big nuke fight

[idle hollow]

all of siberia

[ionic holly]

I wonder i they bundle up folk like sardines in mega-cities (the most important civs that dont get shipped off to other planets) and the rest of the world is more or less just overgrown nature they harvest

[idle hollow]

Yeah

[cobalt patrol]

https://preview.redd.it/ozdmchcsglgc1.png?width=1024&auto=webp&s=c6b0646a49540a5730ecf091f304a41f3dd4b6f1

[idle hollow]

so

most of northern canada

the UK

[ionic holly]

SUPERSTONE PARK WAS DESTROY-

god sorry ive heard that so many times

[idle hollow]

Also I'm sad the city maps aren't unique

I wanted to see the super earth pyramids...

:(

[cobalt patrol]

Note that Prosperity City appears to be sweden

the little rascals at arrowhead

[ionic holly]

Tracks

[idle hollow]

oh it's personal now arrowhead

[agile fable]

ARE YOU KIDDING ME THEY RENAMED THE PACIFIC

[idle hollow]

blowing up england and wales and scotland and ireland

making sweden the capital

i see how it is

[spare verge]

peace is not an option

[agile fable]

That’s it I’m becoming a chaos diver

[cobalt patrol]

Hey, one of those had it coming.

[idle hollow]

https://tenor.com/view/minecraft-movie-flint-and-steel-gif-4491320584761369279

but in actuality i bet the hazard striped areas are just

nuked and wasteland-like

with no real civilisation

yet

[cobalt patrol]

https://old.reddit.com/r/Helldivers/comments/1krsdl4/chinese_players_taking_down_leviathans/

This is beautiful.

They're having so much fun

i love the HMG gunner ion the end of the turret

A very orky way of range finding

[idle hollow]

using a fucking player as a rangefinder

incredible

[spare verge]

it mostly being over the arctic, I wonder if there was a US-Russia nuclear exchange and a lot of missiles got shot down over the poles

[cobalt patrol]

it's actually really smart

[idle hollow]

yeah

[agile fable]

I felt so much joy watching that

[cobalt patrol]

I genuinely love seeing players have SO MUCH FUN like that

[spare verge]

making the planet defense guns manually aimed was an inspired choice

[cobalt patrol]

https://i.redd.it/8c80mf7gg22f1.png

Loool

[agile fable]

I do too. It’s the same reason I don’t give a fuck what the meta is. I just want to watch people enjoy their experience. If you’re having fun, it doesn’t matter what you’re using!

[ionic holly]

Not a great start to the morning, joined a mission with apparently no reinforcements left, got the mission done cause i just bombed the monolith atleast but
Yeesh

[undone veldt]

The war

[weary granite]

I honestly thought that Australia would be considered a Restricted Zone as a "Training Ground"

[graceful bluff]

Funnily enough australia isn't part of the restricted areas

[weary granite]

Yeah, that's why I said that is a surprise really

<@&1206091872716595200> anyone up to dive for a while?

[cobalt patrol]

People meme up aus way too much, honestly.

It's al ittle annoying, becausei t distorts the real dangers there (it's fuckin' BIG ya bozos), and over focuses on stuff that's mangable

it also ignores how dangerous other partso f the planet are (like NZ has it's biggest city built on a dormant - not extinct, just eepy, volcano field, and our captial is on a fault line. a big fault line. also that lake in the middle of our northen island?

That's not a lake, that's a volcanic caldera. a dormant volcanic caldera)

[fringe quiver]

Eh

Humans are adaptable

Why do you think we live where earthquakes happen and tornados happen and everything

[ionic holly]

First session of day 2 of the invasion went well

[quick plinth]

https://www.rxddit.com/r/Helldivers/comments/1krsdl4/chinese_players_taking_down_leviathans/

[odd arch]

I'm not sure if I have the killzone weapons, despite logging in at the correct time

I have the SMG

[lethal delta]

The other was paid iirc

Oh, not the sniper

[cobalt patrol]

The AR required super credits

[strange vine]

https://vxreddit.com/r/Helldivers/s/pVqvVwVcDl

https://www.vxreddit.com/r/Helldivers/comments/1krz9nk/trickshot/

https://vxreddit.com/r/Helldivers/comments/1krx2ut/the_full_scale_of_the_cities/

[hazy oriole]

i have one complaint about the invasion so far and it's the leviathans, i really do hate those tanky floating fucks

[quick plinth]

they're largely ignorable is what they are

[hazy oriole]

the moment i actually ignore them i get sniped by their bunker turrets

i've been hearing that so much and that's just not been the case for me

[hasty ore]

Gotta juke em

[hasty ore]

Takes a shitload of Spears

[graceful bluff]

mostly heard the autocannon turret being good for it

[quick plinth]

5 spear rockets

14 AT/E rounds

[supple siren]

Fourteen?

[quick plinth]

yes

[supple siren]

Like from the Recoilless

[quick plinth]

no

[hasty ore]

From the chair

[supple siren]

ohhhh

[quick plinth]

Anti-Tank Emplacement

[supple siren]

ah right RR is HEAT

[uncut hatch]

The autocannon mech takes care of them pretty ez too

[quick plinth]

the Leviathan?

[uncut hatch]

Yeah

[quick plinth]

it has the pen??

[uncut hatch]

Yup

Thats how my group has been dealing with them

[rare nymph]

Just matches, iirc

[uncut hatch]

Takes a bit of ammo but you can take it down real fast with them

[supple siren]

Also implodes in one shot to it but you can sorta sidesteppie

[uncut hatch]

Its aim is kinda bad if you dont just stand still and if you do get hit ive never had it just blow the mech up, usually just takes a arm in my experience

[unreal merlin]

A clean hit will definitely pop a mech

[uncut hatch]

Havent had a clean hit then yet

The bombers tho

Fuck them things, lost to many mechs to not noticing them because the sidewalks or whatever dont get painted blue

[supple siren]

Yeahhh the attack preview getting lost if there's any kind of elevation seems like a hell of a bug

Maybe aligned with whatever the hell makes Voteless walk through buildings

[uncut hatch]

Voteless going thru walls i have less issue with then the fleshmobs glitching thru terrain. Had one phase into the little elevated area where you fire the playground cannon right infront of the hmi and just rag doll whoever tried to use the it

[tiny flume]

For Super Earth

I hear cool stuff is happening in the game now

[hexed steeple]

lets go soldier

[tiny flume]

Is the recoiless rifle still good?

Last thing I remember being excited to unlock was the lil back pack laser drone

[quick plinth]

everything is good, just depends on what you intend to fight

[fringe quiver]

Throwing knives

Harvester

Y/n?

[versed hamlet]

and what you bring to cover the weaknesses

[trail nymph]

other divers

[versed hamlet]

if the team's equipment preference and cohesion allows! but I'm more talking about how there's a ton of loadout slots that can all cover each other's weaknesses

[fringe quiver]

Okay but

I want to kill a harvester

With a throwing knife

Is it possible?

I assume not

[cobalt patrol]

You know I have no idea

Gimme a mo

I have to look stuff up

[graceful bluff]

if you hit in the joints sure I think

[fringe quiver]

Wait shit

I meant Leviathan

My bad

[cobalt patrol]

Oh, yeah, that's a no

You might be able to do it if someone breaks a wing off and you can nail it

But levs are A5 across the board

[fringe quiver]

Rip

[cobalt patrol]

So until the internals are opened up... No bueno

Oh, no, that's not even going to work, the internals are ap4

[oblique hazel]

<@&1206091872716595200> anyone up to dive?

[quick plinth]

save me a spot if able, be there in a sec

[steady flame]

Sick and a little non-verbal, but I'm up.

[cobalt patrol]

Absolotuey bonkers how well HD2' has dione with it's playerbase staying high

[sour falcon]

It ping pongs pretty considerably, it all fairness

[tall stone]

Huh, I think we're going to be able to do this MO

Color me surprised.

[winter shuttle]

i seen the results of victory and defeat

knowing it i must say

FIGHT FOR SUPER EARTH

[karmic prawn]

Yeah if there's anything helldivers love, it's getting bogged down in bloodbaths

And the Illuminate have a lot of chaff units

[rare nymph]

Nothing divers love more than meatgrinder attrition battles

[cobalt patrol]

Yes and no - mainitiong a minium of like 30k players is crazy good

and then it tends to routinely spike past 100k just on weekends

[cobalt patrol]

So, Orbital Gattling Barragei s just real good in the cities. Short cooldown means you can spam it constalty, which means your shop is basically always at a good angle

Will outright kill warp ships now

(can even fuck up Levithans which is v. funny)

[tall stone]

The Wasp is so good into Illuminate.

[unreal merlin]

Very, especially in these long open streets and parks. 1 missile kills any overseers (flying ones are evasive sometimes), 4 missiles kill a fleshmob (3 + some bullets does it too), 3 missiles kill a stingray.

If you have nothing better to do, you can volley missiles at a Leviathan and chip away at it (the single-shot missiles have AP 6)

[strange vine]

https://www.rxddit.com/r/Helldivers/comments/1krtfyw/the_chinese_community_is_going_nuts_right_now/

[limber pike]

that's so kind of Wholesome I love it.

[wind arrow]

related: https://youtu.be/NEEbBh6xMWw

the BF4 memes "what was your mission in shanghai" and "highest quality soldiers" are related to this

[civic apex]

.....

[limber pike]

Oh my god what a refernce in the making lol

[civic apex]

rememberance is Beunos Ares lol

[wind arrow]

buenos ares????

[civic apex]

from starship troopers

[wind arrow]

damn, deep cut

[civic apex]

https://tenor.com/view/starship-troopers-paul-verhoeven-robert-heinlein-buenos-aires-kill-them-all-gif-23642456

[cobalt patrol]

So, Strafing Run

it can kill levithans if ou get your aim JUST right

(And Eagle 1 hoses it down)

[wind arrow]

wait, potentially dumb question but

can eagle 1 strafe down an illuminate strafer?

[north fiber]

yes

[limber pike]

maybe would be an extremely lucky moment

[north fiber]

it's hard to do delibrately, but if you get it lined up then 100% yes she'll nail it

[wind arrow]

gotcha

[cobalt patrol]

People have gotten two-for-ones

You just need to time it right

[lethal delta]

I've had strafers run into eachother

[burnt vapor]

I have a friend who can get it 9/10 times
It’s very possible just need to learn the timing

[weary granite]

I have been recommended this and I can't just NOT share.

https://youtu.be/U-IwtuPXcFI?si=zZuIns5iWquPBLCj

[winter shuttle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_bdF_k3t9E heh 😛

[sage plume]

<@&1206091872716595200> ive got so much to do today but SUPER EARTH NEEDS US

[winter shuttle]

i'll be down for some late night helldiving

[sage plume]

sorry ping cancelled, just realised irl responsibilities are too important :(

(i NEED to do so much i cant procrastinate)

[weary granite]

Ooficus

[ionic holly]

wait eagleopolis still stands? holy fuck

[oblique hazel]

we've been holding it at ~20% for hours lol

Super Earth shall not fall!

[idle hollow]

It hasn’t budged since yesterday damn

[oblique hazel]

Does the ultimatum still 1 shot harvesters after the nerf?

[cobalt patrol]

I have no ideas!

[weary granite]

Yeh

At least from my experience

I burst the shield before yeeting an Ultimatum package on its face. Destroyed it in a direct impact.

[ionic holly]

So support weapon ive been having
intensely good luck with on illuminate lately

Railgun

Cracks stingrays in two, still good on overseers, and its effectiveness on harvs is
surprising

2 to a joint to break it, and you can break the shield generator in one shot if you need to stall/give someone else the opening

[cobalt patrol]

That makes sense, i' mgald it's rocking for you!

[ionic holly]

the fact it cracks stingrays in two just
flat out is really surprising

[cobalt patrol]

Stingrays are actually hilariously fragile

They're a single hit box that's 70% durable

and only have 800 hp.

Railgun at 99.99% charge is doing 1500 normal, 562.5 durable damage damage

So a perfect charge shot is doing 450 + 393.75 damage = 843.75 damage

so if you can hold your shot till about 95% or more charge, you should be able to one hit kill it!

[ionic holly]

bet.

i already have an adrenaline high from jousting them twice, shaving it to once though?

[lethal delta]

I've been using the laser cannon

[verbal summit]

Laser cannon my beloved

[cobalt patrol]

I'm still happy with the AC. WEnt back to peak physique armor, the extra ergo is just too nice over the recoil reduction

and you can do cool trick shots like banking APEAT shots off the sides of the doorway and into the warpships

[weary granite]

Bruh 18 hours to kill more or less 600 million illuminate

Don't think we can do this

[quick plinth]

I do think they're gonna make us fail a couple on purpose

for the drama

but I do wonder if the helldivers will manage to fail all of them

[harsh kayak]

https://tenor.com/view/fd-gif-25482735

[fringe quiver]

Would just need 300k helldivers to kill 2k illuminate

[agile fable]

Or 100k to kill 6k which is much more achievable

[fringe quiver]

Idk about 6k

If you got work like I do 2k is more avg

[tight zephyr]

When was the last time we succeeded on a major order?

[graceful bluff]

now we just need one of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGt4cGGpQqM

[agile fable]

A couple weeks ago iirc

[tight zephyr]

Feels like we’ve been on a bit of a losing streak for the past couple of months.

[agile fable]

Eh, no war is a clean sweep.

[graceful bluff]

Those are undemocratic thoughts

[ionic holly]

I suppose i dont fixate much on if a MO is a win or loss myself, i just get on to play and i do the objective asked from command

[undone veldt]

Is repeatedly running difficulty 1s still the best way to get super credits?

[fringe quiver]

Not on super earth

Also I found diff 2 was better

Got like 30-40 SC per mission

[undone veldt]

Oh why?

[fringe quiver]

I think diff 1 spawns less POIs

[undone veldt]

Oh ok

[fringe quiver]

Would need to ask exp farmers here tho

Also I solo farm

Obv quicker with a 2nd person plus 2 panel doors

[undone veldt]

Yah

But also like, I don’t wanna ask a friend to repeatedly run boring missions with me just to get friendship doors

[fringe quiver]

I want to but I'm at work

[undone veldt]

[undone veldt]

God I keep getting super unlucky

Legitimately 0 super credits each run

I’m scouring the map I’m just not finding anything

[fringe quiver]

Hold on

Are you doing super earth?

Pods and the shipping containers are the way for solo farming on normal maps

Super earth has like nothing

I only see like one pod and one dual panel door per mission

[undone veldt]

Nah I’m doing bugs rn

Yah I’ve noticed super earth has like, nothing

Which suck

The maps are huge but there’s nothing to find

[stark ether]

sc farming you want diff 1: smaller maps about the same number of poi. Go for grand errant atm, which is here, has full maps with minimal terrain interrupts other than on brood commander missions but thats just how that mission works

[idle hollow]

eagleopolis has fallen

[versed hamlet]

super earth just sucks for any kind of farming
half the time it seems to spawn <10 rare samples even on higher difficulties
and I've seen mid-difficulty maps with a SINGLE PoI (after lidar revealed all of them)

there's a ton of common sample spawn points but seemingly not enough rare sample spawn points, so the majority of the time all the rare samples on the map are on the cognitive disruptor (which is the only map tactical objective and thus guaranteed to spawn)

[versed hamlet]

the PoI's themselves usually also don't have loot
the only saving grace is that a fair few of the objectives have drop caches built into their tiles, but the overall amount is usually still lower than other maps

[versed hamlet]

https://helldivers.wiki.gg/wiki/Terrek this planet should still be available on the bug front
from what I've been told (and seen), the moon tile set is one of the best for sc/medal farming due to not having much blocking terrain and no trees so high visibility
bring someone else who's desperate for super credits and you can clear the maps in <8m and still extract (teaming up to open bunkers)
there will overall be less PoI's but the travel time reduction should make up for it, and less nest map obstacles to block them

and as consolation, remember it's rng
some maps you'll get a ton of bunkers with multiple sc in them each, some maps you'll just get containers and drop caches that have slips

[unreal merlin]

Seems there's an exploit to bring multiple of the same stratagem at once, since I just saw someone with 3x Orbital Gas

[oblique hazel]

yup

I know I saw a video on it, but I'm pretty sure it works by opening up the weapon customization menu in between picking each strat

and I think it also only works on the first mission of an operation

[unreal merlin]

I'm reminded of the old HD1 high level extermination strategy where everyone just brought 4x Shredder Missile Strikes (the nuke) and just took turns lobbing it across the arena to kill everything

[oblique lotus]

Orbital gas?

Isn't that the hellpack?

[versed hamlet]

can you bring 4x exosuits or are they still limited to 1/mission

[oblique lotus]

You get 3 exo call ins dont you?

[versed hamlet]

you can't have both the patriot and the emancipator is what I mean
so 4x slots devoted to exosuits would be a grand total of 12

rather than the normal max of 3

[oblique hazel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42sSFqQiRA8

exosuits don't work with it unfortunately

[versed hamlet]

unfortunate 😔
but fortunate, would totally break the game lmao

[oblique hazel]

I think its because you can only bring 1 exo strat of either type

[versed hamlet]

yeah, that's why I asked, it's a unique mechanic

I do have to also ask: do ya'll think would this be deemed a punishable exploit?

[undone veldt]

Got the borderline justice warbond

And god

The deadeye is so fun

[cobalt patrol]

It's really good!

Wait until the bot front rolls around again

[undone veldt]

Wait are the bots fully unfightable rn?

[versed hamlet]

no, they're still there

I might do that now because I am just. so done with illuminate

[undone veldt]

Ah ok

But yah this things rips through overseers like nothing

And can do solid damage to fleshmobs

[cobalt patrol]

Yeah, it drops any overseer in one hit to the head

[lethal delta]

My only issue is that

The eruptor is just too good

[cobalt patrol]

persoanlly, i like the Deadeye on bots and bugs

Lib Carbine is the light on squiddies

though i do plan to mess with high ergo eruptor more

[uncut hatch]

Eruptor is still my fav weapon, nothing beats an explosive 50 cal sniper

[versed hamlet]

relive the glorious struggles of your ancestors by tearing off the sight and marveling at how fast it can aim now

[unreal merlin]

I have to do my part...

[agile fable]

it can be done

[tight zephyr]

Haha yes! YES!

[undone veldt]

I am gonna swap to iron sights on the deadeye as fast as I can once I unlock it

It feels right

[royal lantern]

Looking good, though I have this morbid curiosity about how the plot would go if we lost super earth

Like getting forced down into the bottom third of the map and needing to retake Earth

[quick plinth]

I do want us to lose SE

it would be cooler

[versed hamlet]

should be a flat buff when not using first person also

[undone veldt]

I tend to stick to 3rd person anyway

[karmic prawn]

Wild to think that the Great Host has been this unstoppable behemoth until it set foot on Super Earth and the helldivers went absolutely rabid though

[sharp crater]

through the power of ✨patriotism✨

[karmic prawn]

Or maybe they just upped whatever's in those stims

[hazy oriole]

okay I know the last two times I was in here I was complaining about the Leviathan and I'm sorry to say that I'm gonna be doing it again, really hope this isn't getting too annoying but I wanna get this off my chest

I've gotten better at dodging these things, my teams aren't getting wiped by them as much, I know their weakspots...a little bit better, I still absolutely despise fighting them and I don't like how they're designed from a gameplay standpoint (and I also want to throw my hat into the ring on how I'd like them to be changed)

My big problem with the Leviathan is that in it's current state it's fundamentally an enemy you are discouraged from engaging with, and to me that makes it extremely annoying and unfun to deal with. You need to spend a lot of antitank resources to kill it (something I really really was hoping they'd never change about the Illuminate front and I'm still getting over the shock of that), they can just keep spawning after you kill them, and the devs have even said they want this thing to be something you treat more like an environmental problem than an enemy. I don't really like this approach for an enemy that looks this good both when it's shooting you and when you're shooting it down. I don't like that the only "counterplay" I have to it is just hitting the deck because this fucking thing decides it wants to exist in the airspace. I hate, hate hate that I feel like I have to be couched into bringing antitank on a front again just to deal with this one, singular, annoying flying fuck. I think there's a solution that can address this problem without defanging the enemy entirely, and it's tying it to an objective like Stalker Nests. Maybe some kind of heavy SAM site that has a bunch of nasty illuminate fortifications near it, or an illuminate equivalent of a Gunship Fabricator or Air Control Tower that could stop them from spawning so damn much. I just want better counterplay to them, I want to be able to feel like I'm struggling against it and not just being helplessly tossed around by this thing's existence. Maybe it is just a skill issue and I'm a big dumb idiot but idk, I hope someone here can sympathize because I really liked fighting squids before these things were around and now I'm just kinda tired of them.

[stone bridge]

Why not just ignore it?

[hazy oriole]

i don't fucking like that I have to ignore them!

[weary granite]

Aight I thought that we won't make it but damn that is a lot closer than I thought.

[cobalt patrol]

So will say that while I haven't perfected it yet, Eagle Strafe can fuck them up

And if you do manage to get one perfectly lined up, it'll just shred the leviathan.

[hazy oriole]

just the one?

[cobalt patrol]

If you do it perfectly. I haven't managed it yet, it's very hard. But I've done it in two to three

Orbital gattling will also rip them up if you can get the barrage to hit them

Perfectly is basically having eagle 1 lay all her shots into it. So you need it low and coming at you (like how you shoot down stingrays with it)

But even clipping one tends to rip a wing off, revealing the AP4 zone

[unreal merlin]

If an Eagle Strafe runs down the entire back of a Leviathan it can get a kill. Orbital Gatling similar but hard to use since it's delayed and stationary.

The best-case counter-Leviathan tactic I've been using is team loading a Recoilless Rifle so the shooter can quickly dump the entire backpack into it. Aim for the circles on the belly (destroy all 3 with five rockets and then hit a sixth rocket). Realistically the best practice is to just duck into an alleyway where it can't see you and pretend it doesn't exist (because it's not a threat to you). If not that, hugging close to a building can make it harder to be hit by its chin guns.

Team-loading a Spear also works but I think needs extra ammo. In either case the solution is to not fight them solo and have a buddy help you dump 5-8 rounds into it in five seconds, then you both go about your day.

[weary granite]

Bro that's just the Teen Titans tower

[weary granite]

Also the Emancipator's autocannons and Patriot's rockets can shoot it down. The problem with that though is the Leviathan's cannons are like the Automaton turrets, they one shot the mechs.

Is sad.

[uncut hatch]

mines are funny

[karmic prawn]

Incredible

[weary granite]

Also it is so close. The major order

142 million left to kill

In under 6 hours

[weary granite]

Dunno if there is enough time. But its very close.

[unreal merlin]

At current rate we're on track for completion in 2hr 50min, with just enough time

not as close as that one margin we had, but it's still within an hour or so

[winged hearth]

<@&1206091872716595200> Lobby open rn, who's up for a game?

[unreal merlin]

I'M DOING MY PART

[cobalt patrol]

https://old.reddit.com/r/Helldivers/comments/1ksy0xl/super_earth_is_running_low_on_resources_we_dont/

[weary granite]

We will see

[cobalt patrol]

47 minutes to kill a couple mill more

we're at 99.9%

248,335,001

MO Succseful

Knocked anotehr 10% off the illuminate's fleet strength as a reward

[topaz condor]

does that 10% mean anything in the game or is that the general progress we need to hit?

[oblique hazel]

general progress we need to hit

and line go down I guess

[cobalt patrol]

It's their total fleet strenght, which was visible somewhere in game

we killed like, 20% of the fleet before it made it to super earth

they cant really... do anyhting if they've got no fleet

[cobalt patrol]

That's thge curent fleet strength according to Helldivers companion, i cant see where it is ingame

so we've actually bloodied thier fleet incredibly fast so far

[oblique hazel]

you can see it on the galaxy map view

[topaz condor]

I am blind and stupid

[cobalt patrol]

Nah

I literally couldnt find it in game

[stone bridge]

We've taken them down to less than 50% strength

Meaning we've reaped a lot of Illuminate blood in a short time

If we keep this pace we might be able to repel them with just a few Mega Cities lost

[cobalt patrol]

"Just a few" 😄

[stone bridge]

It helps the Chinese community is defending Equality-On-Sea ferociously

Truly they are our most Quality Soldiers

[cobalt patrol]

)They're doing it for hte memes

one of which i wish they werent doing it for, but oh well

(it's a bad nazi joke, said meme)

[stone bridge]

Oh

[cobalt patrol]

The rest of the memes are good though!

[stone bridge]

I do love the Battlefield 4 memes they've kept alive

"List him on the stock market" made me cackle

[stone bridge]

Something I like a lot about this event right now - you can have an effective anti-illuminate stratagem loadout fully ready at level 1 for just 7500 req slips

Which is great

Even new players can punch up at the squids very effectively

[idle hollow]

Machine gun, Gatling sentry, strafing run?

[stone bridge]

MG sentry instead of Gatling then Orbital Gas on top

[idle hollow]

I hadn’t even considered the brap attack

Why MG instead of Gatling though

[stone bridge]

More favourable to bad positioning or flubbed throws

It has less FF potential and 60% of the cooldown

[idle hollow]

I see

I prefer gatling as a fire and forget though

Just throw it down somewhere and go somewhere else

[stone bridge]

MG does the exact same thing on a lower cooldown - not saying the Gatling is bad, but I prefer being able to use the MG more often

[idle hollow]

Mainly streets full of voteless and flesh mobs

[idle hollow]

Oh true cooldown too

Good points all around

[cobalt patrol]

fully upgraded i bleive orbital gatting is one of the fastest and might even beat out MG sentry? but they're both good

[idle hollow]

Ye

[cobalt patrol]

But that's only relevant fully ugpraded

[cobalt patrol]

"Succsueflly get people out of misisons will hurt the squids!"

Super Earth's top minds really working overtime here

[stone bridge]

brilliant. 10/10 strategic consideration

[odd arch]

spent an entire match blowing everything up with the eruptor to level it up
main objective bugged and we couldn't pick up the codes to complete it
the game crashed on returning to the ship
got no XP

[oblique hazel]

As a heads up, the XP your weapon gets us literally just the XP you get from that mission, nothing else

You don't have to use the weapon at all if you don't want to and you can make do without it

[odd arch]

thank

[verbal summit]

Eruptor my beloved

[weary granite]

Yeah, if you have a buddy. Have them bring a good weapon you both like and want to use, get Eruptor in your loadout. Kill your ally take their weapon and you'll still get the Eruptor EXP since that is your loadout.

[cobalt patrol]

Does anyone know if Siege ready affects cycling the bolt between shots?

[hearty pier]

Shouldn't, that's not the reload time

[odd arch]

how do I get super credits now that it's all urban maps

I'm yet to find any

[stone bridge]

go to a bug or bot front or wait

[forest crater]

I remember seeing a specific planet on the bug front that's real good...Grand Errant I think? No big terrain breaks aside from on Brood Commander missions

[cobalt patrol]

I have found some in the super cities, but yeah, they're rare.

I'm sitting pretty on over 1k even after buying the warbond though, so I'm not exactly stressing

[fringe quiver]

extract from a mission 20 million times

Idk about that one

[quick plinth]

I mean

[tall stone]

Team of 4 adds 4 every mission

[quick plinth]

I was also gonna say, they're unlikely to give us such a number, not taking into account the surge of players and amount of time played

[odd arch]

I still only have one super credit expansion pack thing

[cobalt patrol]

Rip. Times like this I wish I had the spare cash to gift someone some sc

[cobalt patrol]

It's 5 million missions if everyone gets out and does it in teams of 4.

Realistically, it's probably closer to 10 million missions, which isn't too bad. Esp spread over three days

[tall stone]

There's currently about 83k Helldivers on Super Earth.

So that's 240 missions a piece for just those folks for us to pass.

Which sounds unreasonable at first until you factor in we're on the weekend.

OK, yeah, with the current population on Super Earth, if every player completes 2 extracts an hour, we have this in the bag.

[stone bridge]

PSA: putting a Flash Hider on your weapon does completely remove muzzle flash from firing in first person

Making full auto weapons significantly more useful in ADS

[tall stone]

:D

Oh that is delightful.

[undone veldt]

That seems to be a common thing in general

A lot of the customization options only really matter for people who use first person a lot

Also, looking at what’s in it, the rate that I get super credits and the rate they release new warbonds

I doubt I’ll ever actually get the master of ceremonies

It’s maybe the worst warbond ever in terms of viable weapons

[tight zephyr]

That’s what a flash hider does, yes.

[undone veldt]

With a single good marksman rifle

The armor passive is terrible, the sword is just another melee weapon, and the flag is a meme weapon

[supple siren]

An honest crime that armor so fashionable has a passive so bad

[undone veldt]

Honestly

The armor looks so cool

But god

It’s so bad

[supple siren]

Like not even a nice little side bonus

Why does +2 grenades also get +30 recoil reduction

[undone veldt]

God please, why doesn’t it have better melee damage at least?

[supple siren]

but 'sometimes my arms don't break' gets fuckall

[undone veldt]

Like, this is a melee war bond

2 of the 3 weapons are melee

At least that

And the rifle has better melee!

[undone veldt]

Hell the other limb health passive also gets increase grenade range!

There’s legitimately 0 reason to use this over servo assisted

And servo assisted already isn’t super good!

But like, it’s fine

[supple siren]

Servo Assisted can also just be silly fun to see how long a 380 you can throw

[undone veldt]

Yah

[tall stone]

Servo-Assisted is surprise stealth armor

[supple siren]

enemies following orbital drops like a damn guard in a stealth game

[tall stone]

I love servo assisted

[oblique lotus]

Also that you don't need the firepower of the gatling most of the time ime

[supple siren]

Gatling seems primarily for buzzsawing teammates in half

[oblique lotus]

It's solid against multiple fleshmobs

And big packs of overseers

[supple siren]

ohh, bet, haven't tried since the update

[oblique lotus]

But the improved uptime of the mg sentry from being able to deploy more of them is really nice

[supple siren]

napalm airstrike DPS seems to hit 'em pretty hard

( though flight paths are fucked on super earth )

[oblique lotus]

Also I've been running the charged plasgun which really messes up fleshmobs

[supple siren]

Purifier! Same! It's been a monster into squids lately

I was using the eruptor for a while but it's just a little too unforgiving for the swarm business

random voteless taking one for the team knocked me off one too many buildings

[tall stone]

I've been using the Tenderizer

With Wasp

[supple siren]

Both my usual co-op friends have been wasping so I've been taking the RR for Leviathans and Walker Deletion

[unreal merlin]

It's a tragedy that the Masters of Ceremony armors have such an underwhelming passive despite looking so excellent.

[tropic isle]

<@&1206091872716595200> divehellers?

[ripe iron]

sure

[sage plume]

yupyup

[sage plume]

<@&1206091872716595200> one more slot

[odd arch]

I'm not sure what the flag could do but it being just a pike is pretty funny

AoE buffs don't seem like something that'd fit the game

[pastel igloo]

the gamebreaking bug i was experiencing seems to have been fixed

[verbal summit]

With the ballistic shield I'd use it as a longer range spear

[pastel igloo]

however me and my friends just did a super earth mission

and all three of us crashed to desktop

[verbal summit]

Given how the eruptor handles any medium n heavy units well by itself against illuminate.

[tight zephyr]

It’d be interesting to use it as an AOE buff because you can carry it around. Maybe it’d get my friends to do literally anything to maintain squad cohesion.

[tiny flume]

As someone who hasn't played in a year, what warbond would you recommend I focus on?

[harsh kayak]

Which do you have already?

[tiny flume]

The first 4

[winter shuttle]

urbang legends

urban legends*

[tiny flume]

What's the go to stuff in there?

[ripe iron]

the armor passives and the anti-tank emplacement

[tiny flume]

errrr

So I had like a couple thousand credits

I jump into one quick playu

And now I have 32000

Is that like, the game catching up with free rewards or some kinda hacker lobby thing

[odd arch]

what's the current best way to farm super credits

[ripe iron]

probably a hacker, probably a good idea to send a message to arrowhead support before you're account gets noticed

[tiny flume]

gdi

[winter shuttle]

same as before dif 1, and avoid super earth

[winter shuttle]

holy cow

[ripe iron]

you should be good to spend any amount you already had, the inventory is logged and they'll just remove the excess

[tiny flume]

Well I won't spend any til it's resolved

Hang on small error on my part

Not credits, the R ones

Gold R, requisitions?

[unreal merlin]

requisition is the not-premium currency and probably not the result of cheating

[ripe iron]

oh those, you get those very quickly

[tiny flume]

Fairs

Probably just passive rewards then

Just didn't expect to get like 30k

[stark ether]

dif 1, experimental infusion, medic armor, on the planets look at the mission previews try to find a planet that consistently doesn't have chunks of the map missing

30k in one run sounds high but i think is possible depending on difficulty, i wouldnt worry about it it caps out at 50k and most of the time you'll probably be at or near cap

[tiny flume]

It was a trivial tier mission

Like I loaded in for half a second

And got 30k

[stark ether]

yeah that sounds weird

[tiny flume]

But I also haven't played in a year so maybe there's a backlog of passive rewards

[ripe iron]

I don't remember reqs being passive rewards, but it'd be odd for a hacker to only get req

it's probably fine, worst case scenario it gets removed i think

[tiny flume]

Anyways, what do I want from Urban Legends then if it's the one to go for?

[ripe iron]

the armor sets have good passives (increased ammo cap across the board + faster primary reload) and the anti-tank emplacement is pretty strong if you have a lot of heavy enemies and long sightlines

[tiny flume]

Nice

[ripe iron]

the stun spear is neat but of marginal usefulness imo. and the directional shield backpack i've never used and never seen anyone else use but could be useful in bot cities

[unreal merlin]

I didn't put a lot of thought into this so handful of salt, etc etc

• get all the stuff from Helldivers Mobilize (the free one), particularly weapons, armors, and boosters
• Democratic Detonation: weapons are all very powerful tools in any kit (crossbow my beloved)
• Cutting Edge: Sickle, Plasma Punisher, Blitzer are excellent primaries, Dagger is excellent secondary, STUN GRENADES
• Urban Legends: Siege Ready armor is excellent passive, stun lance is fun, also gets AT Emplacement (dunks on bots)
• Borderline Justice: Deadeye and Talon are amazing weapons, dynamite is pretty good but I don't use it
• Chemical Agents: GAS GRENADES (AMAZING), dogbreath is kinda neat but honestly gas grenades are hard carrying here
• Truth Enforcers: Halt shotgun is very flexible tool (stun is amazing), Reprimand has gotten a lot better with attachments
• Polar Patriots: Three excellent primaries (Purifier dunks on all bots and squids) and a desert eagle secondary, IMPACT INCENDIARY for if the regular incendiary's fuze is too long for you
• Steeled Veterans: An assortment of okay stuff but kinda whelming these days IMO, Senator pistol has HEAVY PENETRATION
• Freedom's Flame: Assortment of fire-based guns, cookout does crazy work vs bugs, armor is extremely comfy if you're regularly playing around fire (or fighting the fire bots)
• Viper Commandos: Liberator Carbine is supposedly very good with the new attachments, includes the EXPERIMENTAL STIM booster which is one of the 4 core "good boosters"
• Servants of Freedom: Double Edge Sickle is kinda neat but sort of a gimmick, Ultimatum is a cool secondary tool, nuke backpack is entertaining if nothing else
• Masters of Ceremony: some people enjoy the R2 Amendment, IMO the only reason to take this warbond is for the cool sword (a gimmick itself) and the drip

[tiny flume]

Thanks! Lots to work with

[unreal merlin]

ultimately, everything can work in the right circumstances (some weapons just fundamentally don't work great vs certain enemies, like plasma rifles vs bugs) but it comes down to what you enjoy using

at the end of the day you can fall back on the trusty Liberator and realize that it never stops being one of the best does-everything-well guns in the game, it's like the Everest of Helldivers

I will preach the amazing value of having either Stun Grenades or Gas Grenades (Cutting Edge, Chemical Agents) because both of them buy you time to deal with the situation. Stuns even work on bigger enemies like chargers/hulks/fleshmobs, while gas trivializes dealing with masses of lighter enemies and confuses medium ones

[ripe iron]

Just have to come to terms with stuns not being able to kill spawners so gotta have a backup option or a friend

[lethal delta]

I'd put Urban Legends as high as Detonation tbh, the armor is just so fucking good and versatile

[unreal merlin]

Yeah, there's lots of options for destroying outposts these days though (Orbital Precision/Gatling/120/380/Gas, Eagle Strafe/Airstrike/500kg, assorted explosive weapons)

Siege Ready IS really good as a passive, I put it below DD since DD's weapons are so ridiculously impactful since 4/5 of the unlockable weapons are "destroy heavy enemies/outposts" which frees you up to do other things

even if you just bring a grenade pistol that means you don't need to use stratagems to destroy bug nests

[cobalt patrol]

Hey, i make Purfier sing into bugs.

[idle hollow]

servants of freedom in C

hellbomb backpack, seeker grenades, double-edged sickle can do heavy pen and is amazing if you wear fireproof armour

Honestly I think urban Legends should be in S tier for the anti-tank emplacement and flamethrower sentry

and siege ready

[unreal merlin]

see the preface statement at the start of the post. i've never used the DESickle setup or seeker grenades

[idle hollow]

i do agree that dem. dot. is amazing though

thermite alone makes it worth it

[unreal merlin]

siege ready and AT/E are both crazy good, I only put it in A tier because the rest of the warbond isn't very remarkable

even if I love my stun lance

[winter shuttle]

i think polar patriot should be a A tier, but thats becuse the tenderizer is my fav weapon 😛

[idle hollow]

factory striders are literally just "run under and throw it on the hatch"
fabricators die if you throw it on them
fucks up hulks and tanks good

also masters of ceremony's grenade is great, it's just a better fused incendiary grenade

[unreal merlin]

I stopped caring for the flame sentry because it just dies too quickly, i'd rather run a gatling sentry that dumps all its ammo before being destroyed at least

and MG Sentry > Gatling Sentry anyway

fire is not as good as mowing down everything from 75m away

my city-fighting kit over the last few days has been

HALT / TALON / GAS GRENADES
STERILIZER or GAS DOG / MG SENTRY / EAGLE NAPALM or HMG EMPLACEMENT / ORBITAL GAS
SIEGE READY ARMOR (LIGHT)```
and I just focus on fighting everything that isn't Harvester or Leviathan. The current free Stalwart replaced sterilizer with gas dog, and HMG Emplacement is for when I expect to carry more on clearing *lots* of stuff actively and quickly

[supple siren]

The Sparkler it opens with also seems to stagger light enemies? It's an odd one. And you get six of the damn things! I've been loving it

very very bad at blowing up Illuminate ships, just seems to bounce right off the door, not sure why

works for the other factions though

[idle hollow]

I need to get gas grenades already

My illuminate kit has been uhhh

[dry canopy]

I've been doing something basically similar - breaker incendiary / talon / thermites, sterilizer / shield pack / hmg emplacement / 500k, also light armor(engineering kit)

[idle hollow]

Lib pen, talon, incendiary impacts
MG43, gatling/strafing run, MG sentry/HMG emplacement, patriot mech if it's a blitz or destroy ships mission, free space
guerilla gorilla (superstore heavy, engineering kit)

[dry canopy]

sterilizer is surprisingly good in city environs for targeted gas application since you can't trust nades/orbital to not also kill seaf and civs