Helldivers 2: For Managed Democracy!

[verbal summit]

So 10* is the normal one we've always had?

[cobalt patrol]

On the eurpotor, yeah

UHOH

The singularity is uh

Well

Helldivers, we have a problem

https://youtu.be/QChlgNJvbZk

[verbal summit]

Ah I'd hoped to get longer scopes for certain sniper like weapons

[quartz cloak]

SLIPSPACE RUPTURE DETECTED

[verbal summit]

Cus setting them to 200m just isn't enough

[cobalt patrol]

THe meridian singualrity just jumped to the earth

showedi t opening andl gihts in it

and the stream is going nuts right now

And it semes to have bene hijacked by an illuminate signal

[quartz cloak]

Guys?
I uhh
I think we were helping the Illuminate

[cobalt patrol]

Annnnnd it's over with a "Thank you all for playing HD2"

https://tenor.com/view/this-is-fine-gif-24177057

uH

Ironically, after that, nothing has happeend

[karmic prawn]

Oh the stream's down

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/526186568038350878/1371773608116097034/image.png?ex=68245b3a&is=682309ba&hm=43eb3cf46f7c91d4c85f55c01cb19b176a167ed4250bcae915fe6b25a368db96&

[cobalt patrol]

<@&1206091872716595200> Big Ol PATCH

[viscid salmon]

LOCK THE FUCK IN DIVERS

[kind cloud]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-shock-double-take-surprise-surprised-gif-5347416827458559741

[karmic prawn]

Glad to see they do have horrific voteless amalgams

[viscid salmon]

also

we can equip attachements

guhbless

[sage plume]

Liberty cant my game update any faster i NEED to make some squid fillets

[karmic prawn]

I really hope these guys are called the constituency or something

[viscid salmon]

@sage plume WIZARD I NEED YOU HERE MAN

[cobalt patrol]

"Fleshmob"

[weary granite]

Abomination from Warcraft 3

[sage plume]

the ratking

[weary granite]

God that looks like a fucking bullet sponge

I hope it takes extra fire damage instead as a downside

This thing might be their version of the Automaton Hulk and Terminid Charger

[karmic prawn]

Oh right it's right there in the update notes

[weary granite]

I'd shit my pants if this thing moves faster than it looks

[cobalt patrol]

Eta till you're updated?

[quick plinth]

6gb download

and istg helldivers is the only game with this weird ahh update pattern

[sage plume]

it says 50 mins but id say 10

[weary granite]

I set mine to update while I eat. Probably will fully update later but best get started on it now.

[quick plinth]

did the PLAS-39 get any customization?

will it finally be a good not a bad weapon?

[oblique hazel]

nope 🙃

[verbal summit]

My disappointment too

[weary granite]

Pain

[verbal summit]

I do hope that at least for some snipery weapons this means they'll have longer scopes than they had before cus sometimes my issue is just that I'm shooting farther than the scope makes it easy to

[quick plinth]

I mean

[quartz cloak]

It did lose damage falloff

[quick plinth]

oh

eh

[weary granite]

It would be nice to have an actual overwatcher

[quick plinth]

still not great

[quartz cloak]

Yeah, but it's something

[weary granite]

The damage falloff loss is not a minor change at least.

Though the lack of customization really hurts it

[cobalt patrol]

where did that show?

[verbal summit]

Are they still gonna have the old in match stuff? I'd assume so right?

[quartz cloak]

The actual patch notes on Steam

01.003.000

[weary granite]

Personally can't wait for Rubix Rappa to make a returning video. :]

[quartz cloak]

The changes aren't
Massive

Shrapnel is now consistent, the hand flamers got buffed, a bunch of weapons had their spread decreased for some reason

The Ultimatum got reworked Again

[weary granite]

Didn't check the rest of the notes. I wonder if they fucked with the Wasp

[signal jackal]

Again ?

What did they do this time

[quartz cloak]

Wasp's untouched

[weary granite]

No customization options? :[

[signal jackal]

Wasp was in a good spot i think

Only primary

No ?

[weary granite]

Oh oof

[signal jackal]

I haven't looked at the patch notes yet

[weary granite]

I should really read the patch notes while I am eating.

[signal jackal]

Only the announcement on the discord

[verbal summit]

I wonder if they'll bring them to special weapons too

[quartz cloak]

It no longer kills jammers, but has double the explosive damage at half the radius
So basically it's more of a big oh shit AOE clear than an anti-heavy weapon

[verbal summit]

I think they should anyway. Make a lil tab for them

[quartz cloak]

Actually the flamers got a magazine increase, dunno if I've mentioned that

[signal jackal]

Nooooo, my reliable jammer killer

[weary granite]

Aww, and I just managed to learn the ranges for Ultimatum Jammer Dunks.

This is so sad.

[idle hollow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_4i-yOUmXY

[quick plinth]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/710129067361435700.gif?size=48&quality=lossless&name=eyebrating

[quartz cloak]

Yeah the Reprimand is now a sniper

[quick plinth]

it finally isn't SMOOTHBORE

[quartz cloak]

(Sorta)

[weary granite]

Wait that means its hella lot more accurate now

[quartz cloak]

(Still wish it was one-handed but that's me wanting a medium pen ballistic shield weapon)

[weary granite]

AH please release the Medium Pen Ballistic Shield Primary.

I beg thee

Anyway. Helldivers back at it again with the good old-

"Well well well. If it isn't the consequences of my own actions."

[quick plinth]

A onehanded laser/plasma

[verbal summit]

Monkeys paw or whatever it's called curls and gave you the loyalist and the talon n I forgot the other laser pistol

[quick plinth]

yeah yeah

but that's not it

we already have those and those are secondaries

also Eruptor is even stronger now?

hm

[verbal summit]

What did they change about eruptor?

[verbal summit]

Yeah I agree. Though talon comes surprisingly close

[oblique hazel]

talon best gun

if the talon has no fans then I'm dead

[quick plinth]

I mean

it's fairly popular

hasn't left my side since I got it

very good sidearm for slow primaries

[quartz cloak]

Okay my game is completely refusing to install

[quick plinth]

hm

mine has finished

[oblique hazel]

holy shit just got around to reading the patch notes, I'm so hyped for the railgun spread buff

[quick plinth]

the railgun got mentioned?

I didn't see that

[cobalt patrol]

GP-31 Ultimatum
Is now affected by the Hellpod Optimization Booster
Explosion damage increased from 1000 to 2000
Explosion inner radius decreased from 4 to 2 m
Projectile damage decreased from 3500 to 1000
Demolition strength decreased from 50 to 40
Sway increased from 1 to 1.3

The intent with these changes:
We want to maintain the Ultimatum's overall power level while rebalancing how that power is delivered—shifting more of the damage from the projectile itself to the explosion. Previously, the Ultimatum behaved more like a massive kinetic projectile (similar to the 380mm shell) because of its high projectile damage and relatively weaker explosion. This update reinforces its intended identity as a powerful explosive weapon, emphasizing high explosive damage over impact force
Most heavy enemies will now die from a close hit instead of a direct hit, except for the Factory Strider
Additionally, due to its reduced demolition strength, the Ultimatum will no longer destroy Stratagem Jammer Objectives or landed Illuminate Warp Ships through their shields. However, the dropships now have health, allowing the Ultimatum to destroy them once the shield is down

[idle hollow]

0.1 spread

crazy

[quartz cloak]

The railgun finally rails guns

[oblique hazel]

spread down from 10 to 0.1

[quick plinth]

oh huh

I mean the dot scope basically represented that

I don't think I'll feel it

S&P with duckbill

S&P with full choke

honestly that might kinda goated against lighter enemies and at sniping soft spots

[cobalt patrol]

Fire and Flamethrowers:
This update aims to better balance fire damage between direct hits (like those from flamethrowers) and burn effects over time, while also introducing scaling of fire damage depending on the size of the enemy. Previously, burn damage didn’t scale well against larger enemies, making putting them on fire feel less effective in those encounters.

Now, the larger the enemy, the more damage they take while burning. However, bigger enemies will also be slightly more resistant to ignition. Additionally, direct fire damage now scales with enemy size—so large enemies like Chargers will still take roughly the same damage as before, while smaller enemies will take slightly less.

We have also increased the magazine capacity of the FLAM-66 Torcher and the FLAM-40 Flamethrower because putting stuff on fire is fun!

Damage
Burning damage now scales with enemy size and will do more damage over time to larger enemies
Fire direct damage also scales with enemy size. The base damage of direct fire hits has been lowered as compensation. This means that large enemies will take roughly the same amount of damage as before, while smaller enemies will take slightly less

Time to ignite
Larger enemies now take longer to ignite
Robotic enemies are harder to set on fire than organic ones
Incendiary Ammunition and Lasers are now less effective at igniting enemies, but once they do, the resulting burn damage is more impactful thanks to the new scaling system

[quartz cloak]

RIP Scythe

[cobalt patrol]

It was doing work for Kukri

[quartz cloak]

Explain?

[oblique hazel]

Kukri was having success using it

[quartz cloak]

Ah, got it

[cobalt patrol]

<@&1206091872716595200> We have room for 1 more c urrently

[weary granite]

Bruh my game is still patching

this is sad

[cobalt patrol]

Yeah, big patch it seems

[quick plinth]

try clearing your download cache maybe? idk seemed to help some increase the rate

[weary granite]

Nah I mean it is downloading

As in it IS downloading, but this fucking storm decided now was the time to fuck with me

So that is slowing my download speed apparently.

[quick plinth]

ah

[cobalt patrol]

Also be aware folks, what's in the game may not be everythign, so wathc out for leaks. if you're sharing leaks, pleas spoiler them

AR-23C Liberator Concussive - Spread decreased from 24 to 4

Damn, that's a huge drop in it's tspread

SMG-37 Defender - Spread decreased from 20 to 5 - Drag increased from 0.3 to 0.6 - Sway increased from 1 to 1.2

SMG-72 Pummeler - Spread decreased from 20 to 5 - Drag increased from 0.3 to 0.6 - Sway increased from 1 to 1.2

SMG-32 Reprimand - Spread decreased from 40 to 5 - Drag increased from 0.3 to 0.6

Shit the reprimand got a big drop in it's spread too

Stamina Cost: All melee weapons now consume less stamina when attacking, reducing the cost from 0.1 to 0.05. This change makes melee combat less punishing and allows for easier repositioning between strikes. The affected weapons include the CQC-30 Stun Baton, CQC-19 Stun Lance, CQC-5 Combat Hatchet, and the Entrenchment Tool.

This is also big for our melee enthusiests

[tight zephyr]

Oh shit yeah this update looks sicknasty.

[unreal merlin]

stun lance technically works on the new meatslabs but not if they're mid charge and they still might decide to slap your head off 😔

[cobalt patrol]

Yeah, Fleshmobs are scary D:

Dunno quite how you down em yet

[harsh kayak]

Do support weapons gain customisation?

[cobalt patrol]

Primary only

[harsh kayak]

Good sniping changes?

[steady flame]

🫠 Why must my patching speed be so abhorrent?

[harsh kayak]

Let me check my patch speed

[stone bridge]

by shooting, I'd hope :p

[cobalt patrol]

THEY HAVE SO MUCH HP BRIAR

SO MUCH

THEY CAN TAKE A RR SHOT AND KEEP COMING

[harsh kayak]

Tf

[stone bridge]

they probably have very low armour but very high HP

[cobalt patrol]

Very, very high

[stone bridge]

is this the time of the 1200RPM stalwart?

[harsh kayak]

Machine gun o’clock

[cobalt patrol]

I assume we'll get actually stats from dataminers soon enough

also, folks, just again:" be careful iof datamines if you dont like spoilers

[harsh kayak]

I measure hp in how many shotgun shells it takes to kill something

The average answer is 2

[cobalt patrol]

Normal MG seems to do work on them

[burnt vapor]

Illuminate once again telling us now is the time for more dakka

[blissful sparrow]

My Autocannon has always been set to full auto

[stone bridge]

oh god they have so much health

[steady flame]

Are they basically tanks?

[unreal merlin]

They eat about 5 crossbow shots

[cobalt patrol]

I told you! I warned you boy!

[stone bridge]

u did

[unreal merlin]

fleshmobs have TONS of raw HP and no clear weakpoint yet. If you've got a bullet kinda weapon, shoot up their legs and they move less quickly

otherwise just mag dump them

[stone bridge]

strafing run continues to take huge Ws

[unreal merlin]

verily

now that the outpost ships have HP, it only takes two strafing runs to kill them from anywhere instead of the big stuff

[cobalt patrol]

it does seem aoe weapons do work on them

[quick plinth]

legs

you wanna shoot tier legs

what salad said!

[unreal merlin]

also flying overseers are waaaay less jank in their movement, and overseers in general

on the flipside, the crescent overseers can get ridiculous when there's 2+ of them at once

[stone bridge]

yeah those mortars are spooky

are the stingrays just an environmental thing?

"environmental"

[cobalt patrol]

By stingrays do you mean the Intruders?

you can shoot em down

[stone bridge]

ah okay

[stone bridge]

the ones that come in to do the strafing runs

[unreal merlin]

they show up and strafe the hell out of you

you can take them down with enough med+ weaponsfire though

[quick plinth]

so heavy AT should just mince them

they are very annoying if they start their strafe from behind a building or something else, makes the indicator inconsistent

[cobalt patrol]

single rr downs them, any ap4 weapon mulches them

and ap3 hits them

[stone bridge]

terrifying though

this shit feels like a real warzone

[unreal merlin]

it's way more intense, appropriate for diff.10

[cobalt patrol]

Yeah, every d10 i've been in so far has been a mess

no one knows what to do

this is great

[sage plume]

i guess my games updating for another hour and i SHOULD hopefully be done

[cobalt patrol]

Def hoping that this iisnt it for ne w units tho

[stone bridge]

Probably not

There have been sightings of other, even larger ships, though details remain unclear on their abilities. But we can’t underestimate the squids, divers, and that’s why we’re assembling our best and brightest to push them back into oblivion where they belong.```

[quick plinth]

I'm still waiting on the snipers and co.

[stone bridge]

pictured: gun made in an inaccuracy factory

[quick plinth]

scythe is goated with these new changes to heat and fire

also gets these fancy upgrades unique to laser

[cobalt patrol]

Look, sometimes you just want to ignite the atmospehre

[quick plinth]

genuienly scythe takes care of overseers so quickly for a weapon that can cut through the voteless

[trail nymph]

Can someone check if the kill zone rifle has it under barrel shotgun please?

[quick plinth]

No mods for crossover weapons

[cobalt patrol]

Note to self: meleeing Fleshmobs is a bad idea

[weary granite]

So any info on how Fleshmobs do?

I gotta quickly wash dishes (dinner) before I do some dives

[lethal delta]

They seem incredibly tanky, but take increase damage on their many faces. Basically imagine a fleshy melee hulk

No armor either

[weary granite]

Also I think it is somewhat bull that the new customization doesn't take into account the weapons we used in the past.

Smh

[weary granite]

Do they take increased fire damage? :3

[cobalt patrol]

Fire damge got changed this patch, but the tldr is: yes

[weary granite]

Goooood. Now how do I reach the harvesters with fire?

[quick plinth]

it's why I'm raving on about the scythe

[quick plinth]

laser cannon

[weary granite]

Fair

[quick plinth]

but the damage to limbs will kill them before the fire

[weary granite]

So standard tactics with Harvester still

[cobalt patrol]

Wasnt impressed by laser cannon honestly when i was using it

Jetpack with FT works vs harvies, and will kill the mquick

[weary granite]

Wait Laser Cannon sets enemies on fire?

[cobalt patrol]

but you have to survive the lighting blast

[lethal delta]

I really hope we eventually get the modifications to secondaries too

And that they revisit some of the camos

This doesn't look right

[quick plinth]

a bit of a derp

ALL THE VITALITY

[agile fable]

INVINCIBILITY

[weary granite]

75% Damage Reduction bruh

[quick plinth]

seems to be a visual bug as other boosters are greyed out

[weary granite]

Portable Hellbomb strat here I goooooo

[cobalt patrol]

all laser weapons do

[weary granite]

"I'm fucking invincib-"

KA-BOOM

[unreal merlin]

I think it's beam weapons specifically. Or the sickle/talon just kill things before they do.

[stone bridge]

Oh they buffed Autocannon flak by a lot

We're so back

[strange vine]

Only beam weapons set stuff on fire

Well de sickle sets stuff on fire too but that stuff is just you, specifically

[agile fable]

Ain’t that just for the double edged?

[strange vine]

Literally what i said

[agile fable]

Oh

[karmic prawn]

Bring your brown pants then

[agile fable]

Oh I didn’t read that correctly

[strange vine]

:v

No worries

[cobalt patrol]

Nono, see, the beam weapons are laser. Everything else is an energy weapon! pedantry

Purifer cahrge shots seem to do work on Fleshmobs

Looks like blowing up the faces is the way to go, but can be hard at point blank

have to hope they charge and slam into something

also purifer seems to ahve been buffed sicne i last used it vs illuminate, two charge shots wil l take out any overseer

...and very ocmically too, the second one sends them cartwheeling

[karmic prawn]

Yeah still not 100% sure on the fleshmobs, flamers do seem to work well though

Sometimes they seem very tanky other times they've gone down quickly in a hail of gun fire

Legs are maybe a weak spot?

[cobalt patrol]

It's the faces. seting them on fire genrally helps, explsoives generally help (because it hits multiple faces)

I'm def gong to be tinkering with my laodouts lots

i still really like the Deadeye/RR combo, esp wit hthe new gunships

[signal jackal]

take democracy protects, 50% chance to not die

[karmic prawn]

Yeah I got the sense the faces were a weakness

[signal jackal]

i do this funny where i overchage the railgun on purpose and live

[cobalt patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/metal-gear-rising-desperado-winds-ofdestruction-sundowner-grin-gif-18169825

[quick plinth]

it was on par with the crossbow in that respect for a while

[quartz cloak]

The Dominator got the Wolfenstein buff (better sound design)

[quick plinth]

oh?

[quartz cloak]

Yeah it sounds better now

Also the vertical foregrip basically negates the recoil on it
Because I needed more reasons to use my beloved boltgun

[quick plinth]

I already liked the sound design, ought to see what it sounds now

[ionic holly]

I am so excited to see some of the mods for my favored primaries

i'm not really expecting much but still

[cobalt patrol]

You get some mix of barrel, mag, sight, stock choices

[quartz cloak]

Nothing groundbreaking IMO, but it's nice utility stuff

Mainly helps weapons with dreadful recoil/handling and/or lacking flashlights

[sage plume]

<@&1206091872716595200> 99% so im starting a VC

[cobalt patrol]

OH

OH SHI-

Here's how you kill Fleshmobs

swithc the RR to HE mode, not HEAT

[strange vine]

Its always done that

[cobalt patrol]

It'll eitehr kill em in one hit or do masisve damage

[ionic holly]

As someone who prefers my guns with flashlights i hope there's means to take them off, aswell

[strange vine]

Yes

[ionic holly]

YEAHHHH

Iunno i've just never liked having the flashlight on

feels like it fucks up my aim

[uncut hatch]

Im the biggest flashlight hater, the god rays and lamp posts have made me despise all light sources in this game

[tight zephyr]

If I were to hazard a guess, sight unseen… maybe incendiary and/or gas for the fleshmobs?

[ionic holly]

Trying to think of the main guns i wanna see the attachments for

probably the tenderizer, halt, and reprimand

also reprimand had a fucking spread of 40?
i could handle it fine regardless but also what the fuck

[cobalt patrol]

Okay, correction, HE mode isnt a one hit kill on Fleshmobs

but

It does fuck them up, posisbly they enter bleed out

[daring monolith]

Recoilless stays winning I guess

[tight zephyr]

Our Lord and Savior the Recoilless Rifle.

[tight zephyr]

I’m also just kind of interested in seeing what they did with the Punisher. You’d think they’d collapse the Punisher, Slugger and Cookout?

[ionic holly]

Alright, already got my choice of weapon for the fuilll force of the illuminate

WASP, drops the jets like nothing and fleshmobs too

[cobalt patrol]

I need to dig out the Autocannon and give that a go

[agile fable]

This is your horrifying reminder that the fleshmobs used to be human.

[cobalt patrol]

Multiple people!

[agile fable]

Yup.

[ionic holly]

All the more reason to kill em

[keen zinc]

voteless jockey!

[agile fable]

Grant them mercy, divers. And show the squids none.

[sage plume]

i just tried the autocannon, it was servicable not stellar but servicable

needs more testing though

[grand oriole]

AP or Flak work better, you think?

[sage plume]

flak seemed to work better but both had uses

[ionic holly]

I play this game too much
i saw a super sample rock near extract, realized we already found the faker, so i immediately footballed it

[lethal delta]

The faker?

Is there a false super sample now?

[blissful sparrow]

there always 2-3 fake veiny rocks

[lethal delta]

OOOH, you mean like, the big boulder

[verbal summit]

Haven't played yet but fleshmob makes me think of those creatures in the whatchamacallits in yahargul from bloborn

[trail nymph]

New leaked mission modifier added in the new update (spoiler for leaked content.)

[keen zinc]

<@&1206091872716595200> one more for field operations

[unreal merlin]

It is my expert deduction through rigorous experimentation that fleshmobs ("meatballs") have a weakness to bullet oversaturation. For the easiest dispatching just mag dump them with as many bullets as possible, preferably MG or HMG bullets but even Liberator works. Laser Cannon has been very effective as well with the new fire dot change. Additionally, it seems destroying the various heads of the fleshmobs both impacts its awareness (ability to chase) and act as weakspots in that if you destroy enough of the heads the meatball will die.

Also you can remove flashlights from all the guns that have a flashlight and get +5 ergonomics, celebrate with me fellow flashlight haters

[blissful sparrow]

can i put extra flashlights on?

[quartz cloak]

What is the fire dot change? I thought it was made weaker

[unreal merlin]

Larger enemies take more fire damage over time (and less for smaller), but overall it's slightly harder to ignite enemies. In practice this means bigger enemies die faster, and smaller enemies still die fast because they just don't have the raw HP to tank it

[sweet surge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TN3oC1MO-9o

[graceful bluff]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-captain-howzer-were-now-being-ordered-to-target-the-very-people-we-swore-to-protect-targeting-people-gif-25115358

[keen zinc]

https://tenor.com/view/cut-off-cut-off-their-limbs-dead-space-dead-space-remake-dead-space-remaster-gif-22474747

[sour falcon]

Illuminate have hands now jesus christ

[graceful bluff]

any specific wepaons to look at with the changes?

[sage plume]

a LOT of hands

[keen zinc]

all

[graceful bluff]

yeah just trying to think of ones that I loved but hated the scope of

brains only telling me railgun but can't change that

[sour falcon]

HMG seems really good for taking out fleshmobs and stingrays currently

A lot of folks running fire to deal with the hordes and it feels like a trap option

[hazy oriole]

where do i shoot the stingray with the HMG?

[north fiber]

mag dump the fucker

that worked for me

Also, I've been seeing WASP users just bullying squids now

it can lock onto the plane and it is fantastic against the fleshmob

[steady flame]

I put a reflex sight on my Eruptor. It feels good. :3

[ionic holly]

Yeah wasp kicks mountains of ass against squids

Also, plane goes down in 3~ amr shots from what i've been experiencing

[steady flame]

How does AMR do against fleshmobs?

[ionic holly]

aside from that
not gonna go into too hard cause i dont wanna just mega bitch but good lord is friendly fire incidents off the charts today, i've been clipped by so much

[north fiber]

not only is it a more useful sight it gives the thing ergonomics on par with an AR

Eruptor eathing well

[ionic holly]

So-so, gotta hit the mini heads and once you break enough they drop

its not gonna be THE fleshmob counter, frankly not sure of much on counters for em, clusters delete them immediately, likely due to popping all the heads

[north fiber]

honestly, I would probably just grab a gun with a drum mag instead of relying on the AMR

[ionic holly]

i mean
they asked how it went for fleshmobs, i was just answering them

[north fiber]

AMR for all the Overseers and such but drum mag primary for fleshmobs and voteless

[steady flame]

Also the reason I use a reflex sight is.. I don't use the 10x scope.

Might use the 4x when I get that.

[north fiber]

Also, Lib Pen has a firm niche now: drum mag medium pen

No other medium pen can get a bigger mag

[ionic holly]

A shame it takes so much use of it to get to that point, but a nice niche nevertheless

admittedly as much as i wanna use it, im liable to still stick to my tenderizer in situations i'd want it
cant truthfully think of many where i'd want the larger mag

[hazy oriole]

wish we could get bigger mags for the tenderizer

[junior badge]

I'm poking my head in for the first time in a while because of the update.

How do I efficiently deal with Illuminate ships? I can gatling barrage them until the shield breaks, then shoot something into the door, but that feels really slow.

What's the trick?

[unreal merlin]

Eagle Strafe will pop the shield on one pass, then you can use an explosive of choice on the door. Orbital precision and 500kg will destroy even with the shield up, same with 120/380. Orbital gas will too if you can get it to directly hit.

Orbital gatling can kill on its own but the wandering it does is inconsistent. Two or so consecutive eagle strafes works as well

[idle hollow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1206817323860627476/1371910110884003911/RDT_20250513_10490036515838093189258.png?ex=6824da5b&is=682388db&hm=f7ca8e2f14f40cdbfb9b24b16bdbe9a3544b70a98728c34d8cd6676a25a06508&

[north fiber]

mag dump the shield

it pops to normal gun fire

then grenade in the door

[junior badge]

Alright, thanks for the tips!

That'll help me 🙂

[strange vine]

"now of course all art is converted to data and replicated over and over, far more efficient"

[wind arrow]

there's a reason i'm more prone to bring heat-up based laser weapons on illuminate missions (like the frontier warbond laser pistol or the sickle)

[junior badge]

How's the double-edged sickle?

[wind arrow]

need others' input on this, don't have the warbond

also, i think my arsenel is a tad too specialized for my taste and i got too semi-auto gun happy. what are people's favored automatic primary guns outside lib carbine and what do you like about it? asking for reference of starting to pick up non-libcarb automatic primary weapons

[ionic holly]

It's good but you gotta build into it, basically needs fire resistant armour

Vitality booster helps too but can be kinda lived without

[sharp crater]

as someone who usually takes the Diligence CS as a go-to, I like the Reprimand SMG a lot too. Mostly because it hits hard and I like high recoil. The mag size/total mags is it's biggest weakness. I have not played it in the new update though (where the recoil was decreased iirc)

[wind arrow]

ok yeah i just realized this is among the worst timing for my question lmao

[sharp crater]

it is also a good time to jump in and try things though

[verbal summit]

I think it helps to take out each individual head. For which the eruptor is really nice.

[north fiber]

the recoil is untouched

the spread was decreased

and you can now reduce the recoil with barrel attachments

[north fiber]

Adjuticator is good.

Also playing with the Knight and Defender and enjoying both

I know the Tenderizer has a good chunk of fans

[cobalt patrol]

Sony.cz did a whoopsy.

||Another update hitting next week, Heart of Democracy apparently||

[sharp crater]

thanks for the clarification!

[keen zinc]

I suppose Omens of Tyranny stop being Omens when the full thing starts to happen

[hazy oriole]

had a guy bringing a flamethrower to illuminate on our team today, he wasn't cutting down harvesters with it or anything but i am grateful for how quickly he cooked fleshbags and voteless hordes with it

[lethal delta]

The spam of enemy airstrikes feels horrible

I've had 5 happen within 20 seconds

[stone bridge]

Are you killing the Stingrays?

[wind arrow]

not fast enough

i feel like i still don't have a grasp on their audio cue

if they don't happen to appear in my LoS, i'm most likely to be informed of their existence via dying to the strafe

[quick plinth]

the interlopers are annoying in a couple of ways, their audio queue can be drawn out, and their light indicator covered up by terreain/buildings

but besides that they're very fragile, any sort of ire from an antimedium weapon kills them quickly

[keen zinc]

they actually fly around for a bit before coming in for their runs

and apparently the Spear can lock onto them and chase them down even during their afterburner

[stone bridge]

Stingray, but yeah

[quick plinth]

then why does it say interloper when you ping them? hm

[stone bridge]

Old name

It's called the Stingray in the patch notes

[quick plinth]

Despite being named "Stingray" by the developers, Stingrays are termed "Interlopers" in-game when tagged by a player.
When a Stingray is tagged, the subsequent voiceline from the Helldiver does not refer to them as a "Stingray" or Illuminate, but instead as an "Automaton".

weird

[karmic prawn]

They've been abducting automatons to use as pilots?!

[lethal delta]

Yeah, when able

[supple siren]

Once again our foolish enemies have made their ships out of material, easy prey for the AMR

[north fiber]

If you don't kill Stingrays they will just keep strafing you until dead.

So if you're getting chained strafed shoot the plane

[hazy oriole]

how are people feeling about the sway changes to sidearms? that's one of the things in the patch notes that felt like a bad idea to me

[stone bridge]

Honestly won't matter in the majority of situations

[supple siren]

If anything the Senator feels better, Talon remains a powerhouse

[north fiber]

been running grenade pistol because that's what fits in my squid loadout but it feels fine

just have to stop moving when you care about aiming the shot which feels correct

[kind cloud]

I've run mainly scythe and senator and do pretty well depending on my strategems

MG turret and flame turret are my usual go to if i have a build that doesn't have a lot of mobility

[unreal merlin]

I'm still running around with the Talon because it can dump 7 shots without overheating, great burst damage and then you just swap weapons

[cobalt patrol]

Talon is such a wonderful tool

[karmic prawn]

Yeah lets you stretch your ammo budget and is just generally so nice in a tight spot

[unreal merlin]

Next I want a primary marksman rifle that's heat-based so I can fully untether myself from ammunition concerns.

[fringe quiver]

I'm confsued

is the update already out?

[unreal merlin]

• handful of new Illuminate enemies
• weapon customization
• pants-shitting about an imminent illuminate attack on super earth directly
  there's supposedly more coming in a few days?

[cobalt patrol]

Yup!

[ionic holly]

A mild question by the by, I will ask, is there an actual defense progress for the illuminate stuff rn and i'm blind or is it really just hold the line?

[stone bridge]

It's hold the line, as said in the initial directive

an attack on Super Earth is inevitable

[cobalt patrol]

3? New unitsi n the game fro squids, all who actually shake things up a lot - Stingray/Intruder (A gunship that strafing runs), Fleshmobs (Someone did a whoopsy with votless, it's a huge hp kmass that's terrifying), and Crescent Overseers (Oversers who use a mortar cannon to bombard you)

Weapon customzaiton

And Helldivers Czech accidnetly leaked the name of the next update ||Heart of Democracy, dropping next week||

[supple siren]

We're just throwing numbers at the tsunami

[cobalt patrol]

There's a meter up the top that shows the fleet strength

[stone bridge]

We have to do as much damage to the host fleet as possible before it gets there

[ionic holly]

I mean so far we don't seem to be doing too badly

[unreal merlin]

The illuminate autocrats are no match for super earth's finest.

[ionic holly]

Also another aside

there is something that gave me very specific battlefield flashbacks when i landed all 3 shots to kill on an interloper mid strafing run

Mind you it was strafing running me so i had to get the fuck out of the way of the now broken ship

[keen zinc]

Apparently you can kill fleshmobs faster by targeting their many heads

Or legging them

[ionic holly]

Yep!

[keen zinc]

Cut off the limbs!

[ionic holly]

Yeah i've noted in my fights with fleshmobs after popping like
all of one side's head and a couple on the back they usually insta drop

it's not gonna be shaving off a fuck load of ammo but it'll probably save a mag or two

[unreal merlin]

they sure train you to just mag dump

which I guess is consistent with how illuminate have been this entire time: resistant to explosives and AT, weak to many many bullet

[ionic holly]

many (ap) bullets if you wanna get technical

Also resistant to explosives is funny considering wasp's effectiveness on most things

[steady flame]

Behold, the ideal Reprimand spread. :3

[cobalt patrol]

I wish the reprimand had more ammo in it 😦

[stuck ravine]

SWEET LIBERTY THEY FLY NOW!

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-panic-fire-gif-27173222

[tight zephyr]

So what exactly does Ergonomics do?

[cobalt patrol]

It's how fast the weapon moves around - so pulling it out from sheathed, how fast you can aim it

it's why the eruptor was so slow, as it had -14 ergonomics.

[tight zephyr]

So the Peak Physique armor increases ergonomics.

[cobalt patrol]

Yes, prety much!

They talked about it in the update video they did

[keen zinc]

Economics is key for killing Hulks by running behind them and shooting their vents

With good ergo it can be done relatively easily

[tight zephyr]

That's what I have a recoilless rifle for.

And failing that, a Senator.

[cobalt patrol]

Eruptor puts Fleshmobs down pretty well

like 3 shots will down em

[stuck ravine]

Has anyone figured out how to deal with the Illuminate flyers quickly yet?

[stone bridge]

They go down to ~3 Autocannon shots

You really gotta keep your eye on the skies now

Nothing except the spear will tag them while they're in jet mode

[rare nymph]

Full burst from the wasp downs one while they're strafing

MG works if you can get the lead down quick enough to hit them with a solid stream of bullets, though in practice it usually takes 2-3 passes ime

[cobalt patrol]

I've been getitng htem in one pass with the MG

MG + Jetpack has bene ar eally good combo for just gtfoing

[wind arrow]

anyone tried to set up turrets vs the fliers?

automatic ones are the ones in my mind, i guess also dogs?

[keen zinc]

recoilless is dogwater for fleshmobs

they tank that shit

2-3 rounds to drop them

[rare nymph]

Likely a skill issue on my end then lmao

[keen zinc]

i tried!

i know im bringing hmg emplacements on illuminate missions now

become the AA

[wind arrow]

i see

[tight zephyr]

You were talking about Hulks, though.

[keen zinc]

oh yeah

sorry i took a nap

[tight zephyr]

I'm having okay luck against Fleshmobs with the laser cannon.

[keen zinc]

obviously CQCing a Hulk is something done in last resort

[hazy oriole]

they are nasty nasty fuckers and i love them

[keen zinc]

but ergonomics makes it much more reliable

with a jump pack and a shotgun it can be quite reliable

[hazy oriole]

illuminate having a Big Fleshy Thing that takes up all your shots makes their squisher units so much more scary to deal with

i remember when you used to jumpack behind hulks and magdump a stalwart into their back amko

you yelled at me for continuing to autocannon it and ragdolling you lol

[verbal summit]

I was using eruptor talon with supply backpack and machine gun but I'm interested in trying the wasp but then I worry the eruptor will become too hard to use cus of voteless. Then again wasp should cover the job the eruptor has n then I just use a primary for the voteless n such. Not sure which though. Ooh shotgun sounds fun

[quick plinth]

3 wasp rockets semmed to be the mark

[rare nymph]

Ah, I knew it was less but didn’t know for sure

[karmic prawn]

Yeah I hear the intakes on the jets are the spot to aim for too?

[quick plinth]

ehh? they're already fairly fragile as is

[unreal merlin]

I've downed at least three stingrays with just my crossbow.

[tight zephyr]

What about thermite grenades for fleshmobs?

[quick plinth]

same issue as RR

lots of damage but their fkn healthpool is just deep enough

[odd idol]

dogfighting

[north fiber]

The thing to remember for the Fleshmobs is they have no armor but tons of HP

so you want weapons that have very DPS and don't care at all what their actual pen values are

the current best solution I've seen is the WASP with the HMG as an honorable mention

[stone bridge]

everyone's sleeping on the airburst launcher

[north fiber]

Airburst is great as well

one shots them

[stone bridge]

we might have found its era

[north fiber]

well, it struggles with the plane apparently

but yeah, love the new enemies

Illuminate finally feels like a faction

they just need mega bases and more secondaries

(also the current map gen is bugged)

[rare nymph]

I’m still having fun running MG plus guard dog plus an AR (usually liberator or tenderizer)

Problem? Just throw more bullets at it

[north fiber]

looking forward to getting a drum mag on your lib?

[rare nymph]

Yeah

Honestly just throwing a vertical grip and a flash hider on it made it so much nicer in my book

Like it was already pretty good, but now it just sits on a target and chugs along

Definitely looking forward to more unlocks for it

[quick plinth]

I'm wondering how AH will look upon all these primaries that become much better when upgraded

like the breaker with a choke ans drum mag

[cobalt patrol]

I would love it a lot more if it's relaods worked like RR and had actual reload stages 😦

[weary granite]

Wit this, perhaps they might even allow us to customize our Primary's ammo?

Perhaps even... ARMOR CUSTOMIZATION

It's not cope I swear.

[cobalt patrol]

I really hope they change their stance on that with armor

gimme drip divers

[weary granite]

Just slap the armor patterns of unlocked armors into a Pattern List like the Primary Weapon's Customization panel and it is golden.

PleS AH

[cobalt patrol]

Okay, Flak Cannon in flak mode wreckes face on Fleshmobs

i blasted one right in half

[weary granite]

By the by.

Still annoyed that Illuminate kinda has the only Alarm Unit that isn't such a bitch to kill before they ring the bell.

Illuminate has the Watcher you can kill quickly to prevent them from calling reinforcements.

But then you have the Automaton Daisy Chain Trooper Alarm and the Terminid "Any one of us can scream and its hard to see us do it." Alarm.

[hallow gorge]

Yeah :/ to be fair they seem to understand it since illuminate alerts call a shit ton compared to everyone else

[weary granite]

Would have been nicer to be honest if they had their own ways to call for reinforcements.

Detector Tower fits for Automatons but a smaller Automaton Watchtower that Helldivers and bots can walk into to either kill the alert system or the bot sounds the alarm from it.

Terminids would have like a variant of a Brood Commander that basically screams really fucking loud. Brood Howler.

[strange vine]

so doing some quick math it looks like most of the different magazine options dont change the total number of ammo a weapon has, only the ratio of bullets:magazine
for example for the liberator, you have 45x8, 30x12, and 60x6 magazines, which all equal 360 total bullets
knight is 50x7 or 70x5, totalling 350 bullets
so the magazine choices arent straight upgrades, theyre just shifting how often youll reload vs ergonomics

[cobalt patrol]

Okay, Yeah, Autocannon is fucking great atm into Illuminate

Flak mode has a second benefit: it shreds through shields

[cobalt patrol]

https://old.reddit.com/r/Helldivers/comments/1klilfo/thank_you_for_playing_3/

Naw, this is cute

[unreal merlin]

UP ONE BND

[ionic holly]

i had one of the fuckin' wildest moments ragdoll wise
i threw a grenade, seeker, at a flesh mob and jump packed over them

grenade hits and sends me to who the fuck knows where on top of a building so i just kinda take my AMR out and crack two harvester's i saw

[weary granite]

Your Helldiver Canon Event for all the times you died. :]

[lethal delta]

I'm going to start using the eruptor, just to get that damned X4 scope

I hate the X10

[weary granite]

||Bruh, Ironsights released another leak of fighting in Super Earth megacities and living SEAF personnel.||

||If that shit is real, I'm gonna be reliving my HALO days of making sure my marines stay alive as much as fucking possible.||

[stone bridge]

Could you spoiler these posts please? A decent amount of people in this channel don't want to be spoiled on content

[unreal merlin]

I tried to trust random helldivers to do their jobs, but all it taught me is that I cannot trust random helldivers to do their jobs.

Their jobs being: the three of them brought all the AT stratagems, and none of them were using their AT stratagems.

I shouldn't be running around in circles for 4 minutes surrounded by 4 chargers and 2 bile titans when the team has two quasars and a recoilless rifle.

[weary granite]

Done, my bad. I was unreasonably excited.

[stone bridge]

All good

[weary granite]

You can see why I'm excited tbh

[cobalt patrol]

Oof yeah, that's rough. I usually try and use pings too indicate I'm on something, or that I can't

[unreal merlin]

My expectations are too high after playing with my regulars.

[cobalt patrol]

I just assume I'll need to handle most everything myself since I play with randoms pretty much always

Or at least that's how I build my loadouts, I should have reliable answers to everything

Which is, admittedly, a bit of a tight limit to work around

Still, it works out, and it means I get to drop into d10s going south and go full hero mode

[unreal merlin]

Yeah same, I just dared to try not that when I join late and see very AT-weighted kits

fool that I am to think that people would have target priority

[ionic holly]

My only real complaint with randos yesterday was the amount of friendly fire

so many poorly placed sentries

[lethal delta]

My only recent issue with randoms was one of them being completely oblivious to everything. Didn't get objectives, didn't get in the car, ran away alone, and didn't even extract

[cobalt patrol]

I will actually refuse to get in the car

But I usually immediately signal with "negative!"

[lethal delta]

Ok, but you do the rest and play to the objective

[cobalt patrol]

(and I'm running stealth bastard loadouts, me being in the car is defeating the point)

Oh for sure, and if I'm not at the main objectives it's because there's a trail of pois being looted and side objectives being mulched

[lethal delta]

Also, they wore heavy armour

So not stealth based at all

[cobalt patrol]

Yeah, I'm in light armor so you know I can move quite fast already

[unreal merlin]

scout armor my beloved

[cobalt patrol]

And being in the car is death if we get shot

Often comical death

[unreal merlin]

Lots of people don't know how to drive well. I'm proud to say I actually have my driver's license and don't crash.

[cobalt patrol]

I am also just a hazard to other passengers sometimes

I have amongst other things decapitated a passenger while using the rear turret or vaporized everyone except me with the purifer

... I killed a harvester by knocking a watcher into it just the other day though, which I feel counts for a lot

[unreal merlin]

yet another reason why I think more people should just pile into the passenger seats and sit the fuck down sometimes

I will taxi us all across the map VERY QUICKLY but if you're poking your heads out and drawing attention and trying to shoot things that don't need to be shot, the process gets complicated

[cobalt patrol]

The best/funniest bit of scout armor is because your personal detection radius is so low it shunts aggro to everyone else

(turns out reducing your detection range by 30% is a lot)

[stone bridge]

This is why Drone Technician is secretly the best armour

[cobalt patrol]

The second best funniest bit is when you walk up to a devastator and then start headshotting them at near point blank

[stone bridge]

Scout on medium armour is goated

[lethal delta]

I'm hoping for an armour recolour the same way we got weapons recolour. I'd use other armour then

[stone bridge]

(also it looks good)

[cobalt patrol]

I definitely want them to uncouple looks with perks

I have wanted that since launch -.-

[unreal merlin]

I love my Drone Technician armor.

[lethal delta]

They've been very adamant on not doing that, so I've lost hope in that regard

[cobalt patrol]

Yes, I consider them foolish for this

[cobalt patrol]

I like the light-medium scout armor personally.

The one that has slightly more armor, but slightly lower speed in the light armor section

[lethal delta]

I use the medium/heavy armour with explosion resistance

[unreal merlin]

I know the one. I used to run Trailblazer (green light) until I got sick of stray bot lasers chunking me for most of my hp so I upgraded to Drone Technician and kinda never went back.

[weary granite]

Right opening the game. Hopefully the super store got updated now for me.

[sage plume]

<@&1206091872716595200> anyone?

[quick plinth]

be there in a bit

[sage plume]

wont be on for too long though mabye 2 missions

[cosmic spruce]

Hate Air force and Lump of meat. (My favourite)

[verbal summit]

Eruptor so good against lump of meat

[verbal summit]

If I flip over 19281 times and you fall out the car cus you insisted on sitting in the gunner seat it's kinda your own fault that I land on you

And before you think I'm a bad driver, I'm extremely qualified trust me :3

[cobalt patrol]

I remain a bit mad at the booster istuation

[harsh kayak]

Best driving skills seen in a while

[cobalt patrol]

the game feels so much worse without vit/stamina at the least

and it's just such a power loss to not be running them

[harsh kayak]

Elaborate please

[cobalt patrol]

Uh, 20% more max health is massive?

[quick plinth]

and basically no DoT damage

[idle hollow]

the mako would be proud

https://tenor.com/view/mako-mass-effect-bioware-glitch-gaming-gif-16544370

[harsh kayak]

I usually do not get into range of fire of bots and illuminate to eliminate them. 20% does sound good though

[cobalt patrol]

Okay? It's basically mandatory on d10

[harsh kayak]

I’m at d6

[cobalt patrol]

well, there you go

The differnece between vit booster and not is things like warriors killing you in 2 hits, to warriors needing 3-4 hits to kill you

[harsh kayak]

Oh that’s good

[cobalt patrol]

or dying the moment a hulk/heavy dev looks at you vs having the time to dive into cover

Yes, it's absurdly strong and you're crippling your team if you dont bring it

[stone bridge]

specifically if you're in light armour

it has diminishing returns

[cobalt patrol]

and i hate that i keep having to Tell people this, it's dumb that there's 3 boosters that are basically mandatory because they're so ridiclously strong

[verbal summit]

MMA bodyslam or something

[cobalt patrol]

Even in medium armor it makes a big difference

[stone bridge]

sure, but in light it has the biggest difference by a fair margin

[cobalt patrol]

it's 21.37 more EHP for heavy armor, 11.11 for light.

Which is a more sigifanct chunk for light armor, being a 10%ish boost (But the actual terurns on things like your head etc are pretty signfianct)

I wear the armor 70 stuff, so for me it's an extra 15 hp. Eitehr way, having vit booster vs not his very noticable

It just makes me grumpy becuase it's a dumb system to have this set of boosters that arent just head and shoudlers above everything, tehy're boring as hell passive boosts.

At least enahnced stims is a moment of power you play around, you know?

[stone bridge]

mhm

in happier news: halt stonks continue to rise

as it can stun fleshmobs

[cobalt patrol]

Also turns out two shots from flak mode of the ac = Dead Intruder

[ionic holly]

You mean interloper?

[cobalt patrol]

Interloper,s tingray

whatever it's actual name is XD

[ionic holly]

I just wanted to make sure this wasnt a grapeshotting the home intruder moment

[trail nymph]

But it would be as the founding fathers intended

[cobalt patrol]

Needs must.

[lethal delta]

Yeah. At this point, they should be integrated and removed for new options

Boosters are supposed to be cool tactical advantages, no mandatory things that cripple you if you don't have them

Maybe make them mid game upgrades

[cobalt patrol]

They should be some kind of ship upgrade

[stone bridge]

Agreed

[cobalt patrol]

`My current strugglebus is i know how to kill harvies with the AC

but it's actually quite tricky to execute

esp since any hit from it staggers them

[weary granite]

I just mag dump twice with the Wasp tbh

I like using the Wasp against the Illuminate.

One shots Overseers and 3-4 hits Fleshmobs and 3 hits Stingrays

Only downside tbh for me is the Harvester needing two full rounds or a lucky hit shooting at its side

[cobalt patrol]

I lowkey hate the wasp and spear, like i respect people using them

but the inabiltiy to dumb fire and the need to lock on does my head in

[verbal summit]

You just need to use your surroundings to your advantage

[cobalt patrol]

This mission was a hot mess.

[cobalt patrol]

That's a fun wrinkle, but i t needs uh, more ingame warning

because i can tell ya right now the playerbase as a whole will just keep sending it to dangerzones

[stone bridge]

It's in the dispatches

[cobalt patrol]

Oh, i know

but it's pretty obvious arleady a lot of players do not read those

given they've had ltieral "Go here and do this to win" advice

WHich teh palyer base as a whole ignores

The dispatches take a whole extra button press to find, it is depressingly, a lot to expect of players as a whole

I'm thinking it needs a "You are voting to keep teh DSS where it is at trisk of taking damage, are you sure?" thing when you vote for it to go to a dangerous planet

[cosmic spruce]

Where may i post memes (helldivers meme of course.)

[azure pewter]

https://tenor.com/view/asdf-asdfmovie-i-can't-read-i-cant-read-punished-lion-gif-3532527054645921660

[graceful bluff]

my arm hurt

also ||it's not fun being on the other side of strafing runs :v||

[fringe quiver]

What about the Helldivers who are on random planets?

They could just let them donate req

Since it gets capped the easiest

[stone bridge]

actually it owns

love the stingrays

[graceful bluff]

I want an eagle variant of that though

[calm sorrel]

If they're on the wrong planets then they don't care about the galactic war. So that post isn't for them

[strange vine]

Its 10% now

[cobalt patrol]

Still a big deal!

Thisisfine.exe

[stone bridge]

What is happening here?

[cobalt patrol]

Major Truth has hijacked the helldivers announcements

[calm sorrel]

I guess it's "Super Earth doesn't want civs freaking out that squids are close to earth" > "The president must be mind controlled!"

[cobalt patrol]

He's been a Twitter account that's been part of the arpg for a while, apparently it was actually a thing for months before the announcement went out on the discord

So basically in character conspiracy bozo who's stumbled upon an actual problem, where it seems the squids are already on earth? To some degree

(we got a video from him of a Fleshmob running down a alley way during the arpg)

[calm sorrel]

That looks like a normal colony city map, not super earth

[stone bridge]

So this is Helldivers being mind controlled or something then?

[cobalt patrol]

? I'm not sure how you got to that conclusion

[cobalt patrol]

It was the fleshmob one that seemed to come from super earth

[cobalt patrol]

Major Truth is claiming that Super Earth High Command must be mind controlled, else why would they hide what the illuminate are doing? (Missing the obvious for morale/propaganda reasons)

[calm sorrel]

oh yeah, it could be. The UFO one was definitely SE

[cobalt patrol]

Oh and these aren't just on discord, it's going out on various other social media

So a dedicated marketing push

[agile fable]

Ah shit they have mortars now

[rare nymph]

In other news, every time I read the word “Democroffee” my brain short circuits

[agile fable]

That is not a word that my brain is letting me see. Every time I do I just take White damage.

[cobalt patrol]

(also major Truth is being run from one of the CM's accounts, just like the various Satcomms were)

[forest crater]

Has anyone's shop still not updated?

Updated as in gone to the full list of stuff instead of just changing what's in it

(mine hasn't become the full list, but it DID change what's in it oddly enough)

[calm sorrel]

Superstore update happens when the next warbond releases

so probably tomorrow

[keen zinc]

<@&1206091872716595200> anyone wanna dive in a few minutes

[calm sorrel]

sure

[steady flame]

In a bit, sure. Currently in a diff. mission though.

[calm sorrel]

I just crashed out of the last game I was in thanks to the new stratagem duping bug

[steady flame]

The what?

[calm sorrel]

you like, put in a strat, don't throw it, then open the strat menu again and throw nothing

[steady flame]

What the hell?

[calm sorrel]

drops a blank strat ball that bounces off and calls in a dozen of what you just requested. If it's turrets, they all smash each other. If it's an air strike, your game might crash

but if it's a blue one you get a lot of it

[steady flame]

The whispered Eagle airstrike squadron. :3

[fringe quiver]

500kg bomb x 12?

[steady flame]

Fun fact: For all the destruction it brings in Helldivers, a 500kg (1100lb) bomb isn't all that big.

And carrying one of them is.. Pretty meh on a modern aircraft.

[forest crater]

I've seen some people already have the new superstore, and they said AH was rolling out the change in waves or something similar

[keen zinc]

need one more <@&1206091872716595200> for free dome https://discord.gg/VW7ZHuuV

[graceful bluff]

aaaaa

[lethal delta]

Are you posting feet? In the Helldivers thread?

[ionic holly]

I assume is the misplaced pixel on the left

[keen zinc]

more divers are needed for the war

[strange vine]

https://www.rxddit.com/r/Helldivers/comments/1klt9zb/super_earth_now_protects_its_class_a_citizens/?

[hazy oriole]

been having fun running the wasp on illuminate, my only problem enemy with it is harvesters

i did have a fun moment where I managed to kill one with my liberator penetrator, are medium pen primaries a reliable means of taking them out?

[sour falcon]

I’m running the erupter with the talon as a secondary and the WASP, it feels really good

Erupter cleans up fleshmobs and harvesters nicely, and wasp is a godsend against overseers and stingrays

[calm sorrel]

Medium pen gets Harvesters eventually, if you hit one joint enough

[bronze cargo]

I like the adjudicator for it since it can remove the "shield horn" pretty well

[hazy oriole]

would you reckon it'd be more effecient than blasting 5-6 wasp rockets into it and crossing my fingers hoping they hit a weakpoint

[wind arrow]

oh is the harvester horn for the shield not the zap?

[unreal merlin]

upper horn is shield, lower horn is zap

[unreal merlin]

If you can aim through the chaos of combat, yeah. Go prone and MG laserbeam a leg joint and it'll go down quick. Other medpen weapons can work in a pinch but tend to be less effective.

[calm sorrel]

more testing required, I've only just started using the wasp

[forest crater]

Been doing some testing regarding this, turrets are mostly useless because of the way they all land in one spot. If more than one rise up, it fucks with their aiming and they can't "see" anything other than other turrets

I had one case where it was able to shoot, but I think it hit one of the turrets in the mass and destroyed them all(they were autocannons)

Mines, if your lucky, can cover the area. Unfortunately this means if one gets set off then all the nearby ones do too, causing a chain and wasting some of them

I haven't had any luck with shield generators, it's only ended up with a single generator

I've gotten a bunch of Tesla towers to pop up, but idk their effectiveness given how close together they were

[wind arrow]

oh yeah another question: i've been having my strategem menu not showing up for me from time to time (and every time it happens, it presists til i think the end of that run)

is that a common issue where a fix has been found?

[idle hollow]

https://payhip.com/Azlaar art by azlaar

[keen zinc]

from someone in another server i'm in

i wish i was this cool

[unreal merlin]

update on the latest anti-illuminate tactics: bullet storm gaming is still very effective (MG + HMG Emplacement + Gatling Sentry + MG Sentry)

fleshmobs cannot survive long if you set max RPM and mag dump into them with an MG

[lethal delta]

Feels good when it happens

[oblique lotus]

huh

illuminates are kinda scary now

oh sweet jesus tghat's more kills than usual

[hazy oriole]

the one problem with the new weapon system is i keep wanting to level multiple different weapons at once

so i can try out more neat combos

[hazy oriole]

sadly he wasn't there 😔

[glad orchid]

How does the new weapon level system work? Is it one mission per level?

I haven’t found a good explanation of it online

[cobalt patrol]

It;'s exp gained in the mission as i udnerstand it

so just do all yoru side objectives, etc

clear alll the bases

extract with 4 helldivers

[north fiber]

A squid 10 on a fresh gun gets you around 5 levels

after that it slows down

The highest I got the knight to 15 but I was still gaining a level and change every mission

I expect getting all weapons to 25 is going to be a grind, but it shouldn't be something insane

[unreal merlin]

it's at least one more thing to have to progress toward

[oblique lotus]

also an actual use for XP

and it makes the knight really good

since you can take a lot of the bite out of its recoil

[rare nymph]

What is this lineup

[cobalt patrol]

It's also the fun type of grind where it encourages you to change things up interesting ways

Without being insane about it like say, Warframe was.

[cobalt patrol]

Incident Squid Cannablism. Xenoism? Either way, Helldivers with Cranberry sauce.

[cobalt patrol]

When God wishes to put every bullet in a 50 cent piece

[unreal merlin]

Yeah lib carbine with attachments turns into a hyper bullet hose

[sharp crater]

brrrt

[civic apex]

trying to delete that

huh

its not letting me delete the twitter link

am I in trouble ?

[cobalt patrol]

I can't see any Twitter link. If it's an innocent mistake I think you'll just get a heads up from the mods?

[civic apex]

oh ok

for me its still there

[unreal merlin]

This happened to me before. You can see it but essentially it gets blocked from actually posting and nobody else sees it

[cobalt patrol]

<@&1206091872716595200> Warbond is out

[sage plume]

nice

[verbal summit]

Do you think if I asked nicely they could reduce the price to however many supercredits I have?

[sage plume]

uhhh on that note SC farming or just some good ol diving anyone <@&1206091872716595200>

[harsh kayak]

Doubt

[verbal summit]

I can make big ol puppy eyes

[calm sorrel]

They ought to have made it cheaper

[harsh kayak]

The base 1000?

[calm sorrel]

just for this warbond, and I guess any others they release without a reason to pay full price for them

[cobalt patrol]

I think that's very unliklely, and honestly, bnest to submit that kinda thing in a player feedback form?

Also this is annoying, the planet is not avalbile for dives anymore, but the squids arent on a new planet

[weary granite]

I will join soon if ya'll still picking up

[sage plume]

YUP

[cobalt patrol]

Blegh, people are just abusing the strat bug

[sage plume]

@winter shuttle

[graceful bluff]

I accidentally a walking barrage

[graceful bluff]

Honestly only one I don't mind it on is the laser

because you spend all 3 charges all at once

[weary granite]

Oof, you done?

[graceful bluff]

and I really want a split beam upgrade for the laser now

like instead of the main beam coming down instantly, just do something like this first https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rheHLnQGusg

[lethal delta]

That's kinda the rail cannon

[weary granite]

We got a new Illuminate Invasion

[winter shuttle]

back to hel lwe go !

[south temple]

man i can’t wait to put a drum on the carbine

i’ve wanted a primary stalwart forever and now it’s here

[cobalt patrol]

Squids Squids Squids Squids Squids Squids Squids Squids Squids Squids Squids Squids Squids Squids Squids

[south temple]

KILL EM ALL

[weary granite]

Does anyone even know what the One True Flag even does?

[south temple]

afaik it’s just a spear

[karmic prawn]

If you drop it you instead plant it in the ground

[weary granite]

That's it?

Like, no damage reduction or stamina buff while holding it with allies or planting it on the ground?

[south temple]

it doesn’t even play the anthem 😭

[heady halo]

thats very funny

[winter shuttle]

unfunny sadly, i do wish it had something extra to it

[karmic prawn]

Well it has more reach than the baton or the sword

So that's a buff to your ability to spread democracy

[keen zinc]

the rifle is LIGHT ARMOR PEN

HUH

[south temple]

💀

[keen zinc]

💀

no funny drum mag either

[karmic prawn]

Dang that's a lot of bullets though

[weary granite]

Tbh the only thing worth on this warbond is the Armor (for drip), the thermal grenade, and the Booster (mostly for new players or those who still haven't finished fully upgrading their ship)

[unreal merlin]

Even the grenade is supposedly underwhelming

This warbond is the "it's over" downswing of the oscillation

[keen zinc]

<@&1206091872716595200> divers required for diving

[graceful bluff]

I really want a mad minute upgrade for the constitution

[cobalt patrol]

I'm def let down the amendant doesnt have more upgrade options 😦

ALso wish there was a bit more communcation - like is this just intdned to be a meme warbond because resoruce were going elsewhere? It def feels a bit flat

[keen zinc]

tis ceremonial

[spare verge]

on a certain level I enjoy the humor in "we've defeated the squids for sure! have some ceremonial gear to celebrate."
"oh. oh no."

[cobalt patrol]

Yeah

also oop

servers are dead/exploding it seems

[steady flame]

Oh, is that why I didn't get that SC?

[cobalt patrol]

I literally cant log in right now, so almost certianyl yes

[idle hollow]

Mitch Conner is Cartman’s hand puppet from South Park isn’t it

[weary granite]

Servers exploded?

[cobalt patrol]

Seems that way!

[rare nymph]

Damn you might be right

[weary granite]

Huh. Server fine for me apparently

[south temple]

https://preview.redd.it/we-are-so-back-v0-jr52geu2qt7e1.png?auto=webp&s=3a5dfed8efa3bc9434eb30be1bf6863f458baf33 evergreen

[weary granite]

Huh, the 11 pages are the Permanent Pieces on the Super Store and I suppose the first page is just the rotation for the weirder/specialized stuff.

[ionic holly]

yknow, i like the new heavy armour, i really do

but man that effect just aint doing it for me

[ionic holly]

I swear the randoms are getting worse

on the upside, i really like the amendment

[cobalt patrol]

This is one of those times where I get irritated with the developers, because I don't understand the effect. And right on the heels of a good armor passive that whole I don't use, I can absolutely see the use case for.

But this just seems a worse version of the Steeled veterans one so I'm ??? At it

[ionic holly]

Especially with the 50% chance part

[unreal merlin]

The new armor passive indeed is just a more niche version of the existing "don't break" trait

[ionic holly]

But yeah frustrations aside, amendment is surprisingly fun

its the propr snappy DMR ive been wanting that i actually like the look of

no offense to the diligences, i just

didnt like how they looked

[ionic holly]

Also, i can set the amendment to 3 round burst which admitedly jumps it up by a lot of points

[steady flame]

Yes but it has a 20 round mag, so your final burst is 2 rounds. >:(

[harsh kayak]

Ah, ye olde french mag

[quick plinth]

FAMAS is 25 iirc

[harsh kayak]

But a 3 burst is still left over mag

[quick plinth]

yeah

fires 2 on the last one

iirc

[blissful sparrow]

Do that when you get a non 3 round burst you know your mag is empty

[quick plinth]

yeap

[rare nymph]

Better than pulling the trigger and getting zero

[ionic holly]

Ironically prudentia has the exact answer i'd give

its a small thing but it helps me know when to reload

[steady flame]

That's.. Honestly smart actually.

[ionic holly]

Cause even while i do have Very Intense gun autism that causes me to passively count bullets, after a while i do lose track

like 11 and up i start to lose track, basically

Which makes the verdict perfect due to having a 10 round mag

[blissful sparrow]

sounds like you need more fingers tbh

[ionic holly]

i mean i have a prosthetic i guess thats technically an option

[graceful bluff]

https://tenor.com/view/ghost-in-the-shell-keyboard-gif-7519694

[ionic holly]

But yeah, iunno, outside of the rifle nothing's really even caught my attention for masters of ceremony

kinda just progressing it for the sake of progression

[supple siren]

The fashion is on point which makes the lame passive even more frustrating

[ionic holly]

I just wish it wasnt a coin flip, or atleast was a lot more heavily weighed in the player's favor

Cause like, there are just
too many good passives to justify it at this point

[supple siren]

Or they could have added some secondary bit that's more constant but alas

It joins Flinch Free in 'well, at least it looks cool'

[ionic holly]

Passively draw more aggro /j

...actually i joke but if it did that i would immediately gun for it

just start running a shield everywhere

[strange vine]

unflinching at least has utility on the beam laser weapons and railgun

[lethal delta]

If they finally allow decoupling passives and armor, I'll run the inspector armor with extra padding

Peak look and good defense

Otherwise, I'll hold hope for recolouring

[strange vine]

if i were changing the passive itd be
Reinforced Epaulettes
Increases melee damage by 100%.
Provides +50% limb health.

id also change integrated explosive to be
Integrated Explosives
Armor explodes 1.5s after wearer dies.
Grenades have +40% explosion damage.

[graceful bluff]

Just let me equip as many grenades as I want

with a higher and higher chance that they'll cook off if I get shot

[ionic holly]

I know it'll never happen just due to the bones not being there but i would LOVE a system where i could sacrifice magazines to carry more grenades

(or vice versa)

Ironically it wouldn't even make engineering kit or siege ready useless,mostly cause of the secondary effects but also cause it's basically more room to bargain with

[quick plinth]

kinda how Ready or Not handles its weight system?

[ionic holly]

Pretty much
like said, the bones aren't there for it so never gonna happen

but it'd be nice

[strange vine]

https://www.rxddit.com/r/Helldivers/comments/1kn9nmc/i_have_no_idea_how_i_did_that_but_this_is_amazing/

[graceful bluff]

That needs to be official

[rare nymph]

Make that the perk of the new armor

[harsh kayak]

You have a prosthetic hand?

[ionic holly]

Technically not just the hand and most of the forearm- but yes

[harsh kayak]

Bionic, electric, mechanical?

[ionic holly]

I'll admit i do not remember, i'd have to go get the paperwork

Does what i need to and i have to change a battery out every two weeks~ depending on activity

if that helps any

[harsh kayak]

Mostly electric then

[ionic holly]

Why do you ask?

[harsh kayak]

Curious and was the first time I get a firsthand account

[ionic holly]

Fair

[idle hollow]

having the absolute worst luck with randoms today

• idiot who spams stratagems crashing the game
• idiot who spams stratagems crashing the game
• guy who keeps landing on people on purpose

I think I'm just gonna farm SC on trivials

and wait for my friends to wake up

[south temple]

so what primaries are everyone running for the new squids?

[rare nymph]

I’ve been running default liberator, but really any assault rifle type weapon seems fine

[quick plinth]

LAS-5 Scythe, kills overseers with a few seconds of directed fire

[tall stone]

Scythe is my common one, with attention to the Torcher as well for me

(It kills hordes good)

[supple siren]

Torcher, Eruptor, trying the Knight with a shield for goofs now and again works OK

[quick plinth]

oh, is the new shrapenel eruptor better against their ablative armor?

[supple siren]

I've been using it for the Fleshmobs, but it hasn't felt bad against the squids

Didn't use it enough before for proper comparison though v-v

One shot to the Jetpack works great for fliers tho

[graceful bluff]

They get them in two usually

goes right through their frontal shields too

[pastel kindle]

Eruptor feels pretty good vs overseers and meatballs, just need something in your support weapon slot to handle the voteless. But then you’re reliant on stratagems or teammates if a tripod shows up

[graceful bluff]

I feel like it does fine vs voteless once you have a reflex sight

[winter shuttle]

grenade laucher seems to be perfect to deal with them with two notable exceptions being the interlopers and harvesters

but for primaries i been using the tenderizer

[idle hollow]

DSS brok

[forest crater]

Why did we take it back to the squid front

[ionic holly]

Cause the majority don't read or assume it'll be fine until their toy is broken

[stark ether]

its on brand

[unreal merlin]

Breaking news, gas confusion works almost immediately on fleshmobs meaning the sterilizer has a niche to fill in low DOT crowd control

[graceful bluff]

Gee I wonder why :v

[graceful bluff]

Also why gas mines and gas grenades are amazing vs squids

[quick plinth]

apparently there's a stratagem duplication glitch

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1352323083180179537/1372661464632000602/HELLDIVERS_2_2025.05.14_-_18.50.08.405.DVR_-_Trim.mp4?ex=6827961b&is=6826449b&hm=67e86cfc5df566fecbaeb3274b8f583bf94e6bc18e22ece0e3c3adc8a673e05f&

[graceful bluff]

weren't you around when I called in a walking barrage using this bug?

Or was that the match before you joined

[quick plinth]

nope

I wasn't playing helldivers at all today besides a bit earlier with amko you and night

[graceful bluff]

earlier with amko

time is fake

:v

[quick plinth]

yeah but you didn't duplicate

not that I saw

[shut bane]

What's the bug?

Is it sideways?

[graceful bluff]

it sends in like 8 with one throw

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1204832579287519292/1372514807579672586/image.png?ex=68270d86&is=6825bc06&hm=0c96c384cb5b4c118a4abfe0f2b84544480d5ad281b0e8f6633e5d4089304b5d&

the one earlier was even deeper than this but yeah

walking barrages also one of the only ones that fire slow enough to not crash people

[winter shuttle]

heh

[ionic holly]

yknow i gotta hand it to the borderline justice armour

it's passive makes the bushwhacker extremely enjoyable

[winter shuttle]

aye

honestly the new warbond.;..is not worth it