Damn gal, those are some good stats!
#Helldivers 2: For Managed Democracy!
agile fable
oblique lotus
is the thing with the gloom enemies that they explode?
in kind of a smokescreeny kinda way?
glad marsh
Man
I finally did the "drop into a botched run with no reinforcements left, and make it a win"
stone bridge
you get the acid status if they do it close to you yeah
glad marsh
I feel legendary
oblique lotus
huh, neat ig
I have discovered the secret tech which is running cluster and airstrike
unreal merlin
Valid (like many combinations)
stone bridge
I should pick up Airstrike/500kg again, but Strafe/Gas covers so many angles and is just really comfy for me
unreal merlin
Strafe/Gas is a very flexible setup. Low cooldowns and flexible
graceful bluff
I've been loving the manual autocannon turret lately
mainly since I tend to be orbiting the main group doing side objectives/grabbing samples, so I can just pop it down on a hill and just absolutely rain down hellfire
civic apex
agile fable
Hoo boy here we go
stone bridge
Could you spoiler this please? Not everyone wants to be spoiled on leaked content
civic apex
there
stone bridge
Danke
quick plinth
I'm doubtful they'll add something like that
cobalt patrol
Yup, I actually failed one for once last night. First time in yonks
Pretty fearsome. And mega nests just vomit impalers & bile titans
Ffs, going past a cleared mega and it had 4. 4 impalers in it!
Though when I'm paying attention the ol RR/Gas Strike/MG sentry/500kg with Purifer and gas nades has been working well
viscid salmon
<@&1206091872716595200> its john divering time
winged hearth
o hell yea
sage plume
ill join soon if space, need to dry my hair first
sage plume
Could appear need to do so.e stuff first though
stone bridge
strange vine
is the thing with the gloom enemies that they explode?
Theyre slightly tougher (3 liberator shots to kill a regular warrior head, 4 shots for spore burst warrior) as well
cobalt patrol
The burst also makes targeting them difficulty in general. They also seem to come in much higher quantities than normal bugs, I've seen nearly 100 streaks from a single gas strike, or even the odd gas grenade
graceful bluff
What the fuck
This would make mines actually useful if you didn't have to turn on bloom
quick plinth
bloom sucks so much ass though
makes a lot things harder on the eyes
anyone got any mods they can't live without? I'm struggling to find anything particularily hand on the nexus beyond a couple of 3rd person reticule and some sight changes.
strange vine
i dont really have any other than the armor body type mod
graceful bluff
To make the railgun sight actually useable outside knife fighting range
Here's my modlist, all on nexus
quick plinth
https://www.nexusmods.com/helldivers2/mods/978
ysee I tried that
but like
I dont need it
I have the railguncharge max in my muscle memory and I was very dissapointed to find that out
graceful bluff
no no, that's not what it does
rapid plover
what does the Miku mod do?
graceful bluff
the railgun sight mod makes the dot smaller
quick plinth
mn
rapid plover
yeah, good
quick plinth
the railgun sight mod makes the dot smaller
ah no its the same mod I tried
graceful bluff
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-ReqmCd4Yo and here's what the maxwell mod does
quick plinth
it just does both of the things
graceful bluff
ah no its the same mod I tried
no?
graceful bluff
This mod un CRT's the charge bar and makes the scope smaller
quick plinth
yes
graceful bluff
you can choose not to have it un CRT'd
I thought you were talking about https://www.nexusmods.com/helldivers2/mods/481
quick plinth
that's the one I tried and found unnecessary, myself
I did try that one too
the pings are like half a second too early to max potential
hexed steeple
what's CRT
graceful bluff
Ashley you're not that young
hexed steeple
i am a large adult
quick plinth
graceful bluff
You were alive when CRT tv's were a thing I'm pretty sure :v
graceful bluff
But yeah I use that mod just for the smaller dot on the scope, don't really care about the bar
quick plinth
its more like a regular screen with EM interfirence when charging up fully
graceful bluff
Having the dot be 2-3 times as big as a hulk eye at ranges I wanna use the gun at isn't really useful
quick plinth
I mean
hexed steeple
You were alive when CRT tv's were a thing I'm pretty sure :v
oh those
quick plinth
I just do it in third person these days because I use controller and first person can be tricky at longer range with that input
hexed steeple
i didn't know them by name cause they were simply 'tv' to me
graceful bluff
The fuzzy tv's
hexed steeple
the fuzzy tvs
quick plinth
the RADIATION tvs
that had a wall of fucking phosphorus
stopping actual to god harmful raditiation and using that energy to light up
oblique lotus
also leaded glass
agile fable
Turn those cathode screens into cathode screams!
ionic holly
~~anyone got any mods they can't live without? I'm struggling to find anything p...
I don't really do QOL mods, mine are just audio or visual
like how Rusty is my eagle-1
feels so good to hear i won't miss right before a 110s barrage
Do be cautious on those audio mods though, some use AI and it always makes me sad seeing those
unreal merlin
they mercifully downsized the railgun's dot sight so it isn't a frisbee covering the entire target at like 50m distances. when you're trying to snipe a Hulk's eye from 200m away it can still be fiddly but it's workable. Most of the time you can get by without ADS at all and use the empty-circle reticle, though this does require some practice and figuring out the timing (I think it favors the bottom half of the circle? at closer range anyway)
strange vine
graceful bluff
You know I just realized
it's been like 8 months since the dark fluid jetpack event and we haven't had even just a ship upgrade to the jetpack to make it more like it yet
stone bridge
I'm glad, it'd make the Jetpack too good
graceful bluff
I mean you say that until you remember that it could be shot and explode
like automaton jetpacks
cobalt patrol
Jetpack is in a very good space these days. I wouldnt mind a tiny dewcrease in it's cooldown time
but it's pretty hjealthy imho
graceful bluff
I just really want to be able to hit it while diving to superman
hearty pier
it's been like 8 months since the dark fluid jetpack event and we haven't had ev...
The jetpack did get a substantial movement buff since then so it is a lot closer to what the dark fluid pack wss
ionic holly
Yeah maybe im just getting lucky but my seekers are just deleting chargers
graceful bluff
there's only one armor piece with siege ready right
graceful bluff
what's the other one? wiki only has the battle pass one
oh the heavy ones in there too
Either way, I hear it's really good with the new secondary
quick plinth
that interaction has been removed
graceful bluff
It has? I thought they're making it intentional
stone bridge
The Ultimatum is specifically excluded from Siege Ready now
graceful bluff
rude
stone bridge
Hellpod Optimization, too
But!
If you run both together, spaghetti code makes hellpod optimization take effect anyway
so you start with a spare round in reserve for 2 total
Still won't get the overall ammo boost
But it's nice
graceful bluff
also has the tech been found out yet what causes you to be able to see poi's when hovering over the map
oh, first mission in a session doesn't work after that it does
what wonderful spagett
Still wish there was a light armor democracy protects
anyway <@&1206091872716595200> Who up divin their hell
graceful bluff
just providing cannon cover at long range, turn around
"Oh, how's your day goin"
Hm which one to get first
Thinking the eagle or orbital
but I don't use either a lot
glad marsh
Get the universal cooldown honestly
It's just plain value
graceful bluff
yeah that's what I'm thinking actually
graceful bluff
I mean yeah you're hitting it with a big metal spike
cobalt patrol
Yup, but it's still useful to know since normal grenades cannot kill the BT nest
oblique lotus
universal cooldown is literally never wrong
eagle cooldown is also very good just because of how good eagle stratagems are
cobalt patrol
A fun trick with that one is to go 500kg + Eagle Strafe
use 4 eagle strafes, 2 500kgs, sned it off
still counts as having stuff remaining, so 10% faster
But i'd just take unviersal cooldown in gneeral
cobalt patrol
They got added a while ago!
cobalt patrol
BT nest?
You can find them in Mega Nests, and in some of the city Heavy Nest layouts. visibly bigger, cant be killed with grenades, spawn Bile Titans.
cobalt patrol
They're fun, nice little wrinkle
cobalt patrol
I've disappeared for a few months again, wasn't aware of them haha
We als o have new terminids in tthe PRedator Strain (Like the jet brigade, but for bugs), and Sporenids (Found in THE GLOOM)
oblique hazel
I think they can pop up in any heavy nest on higher diffs, not just on city maps
cobalt patrol
I think they can pop up in any heavy nest on higher diffs, not just on city maps
I havent played enough bugs to check 🙂
oblique hazel
also, do we know what demo force they actually require? I've heard conflicting reports whether its 40 or 50
cobalt patrol
40, per wiki.
It's worth noting that normal nests are 20, but that HAS to be explosive. If it['s not explosive, they require Demoforce 30.
So it's possible tehre;'s something similar going on
tight zephyr
How's the HMG against bile titans?
unreal merlin
IIRC it works on the face but I'd rather use a real AT if I have one. Will demolish the underbelly though.
tight zephyr
I'm trying to figure out a good way to take out a whole bunch all at once while I eyeball heading back into high-end pubbie missions.
graceful bluff
the deployable autocannon just tears them apart
tight zephyr
Isn't that kind of asking to get swarmed by the lesser bugs?
graceful bluff
You can stay at quite the range if you find a high spot and just provide covering fire
tight zephyr
Hmmm.
graceful bluff
But even in ranges where you'll deal with bugs, I run it with the machinegun turret and the liberator drone
tight zephyr
That's not an angle I would've considered. I tend to move around a lot when I'm fighting.
So building a nest like that feels counterintuitive.
graceful bluff
it has no bullet drop(that I can notice really), so you can get absurd range shots
the current loadout I'm running is machinegun sentry, rocket sentry, liberator drone, manned autocannon
stone bridge
the AT Emplacement definitely has drop over longer distances but it only starts around 300m or so I think
graceful bluff
allows me to pick up a heavy weapon in the field(like a quasar goes amazing with this build)
unreal merlin
yeah the AT emplacement has ridiculously high velocity and low drop
you need to be cross-mapping bot outposts to notice it
graceful bluff
it's also surprisingly good at clearing chaff
unreal merlin
Almost wryly remarked that diff10 bots "chaff" consists entirely of heavy/rocket devastators and berserkers.
graceful bluff
~3m aoe of medium armor pen 150dmg, ~6m of 149-0 light pen
unreal merlin
which yes it is very good at clearing that "chaff"
graceful bluff
also lasts forever if it still has ammo, so good to throw down in an area you think you'll need it later, like when you drop off samples to extract
If only they'd fuck off with making some areas bounce stratagem balls and I would drop the guard dog for a jump pack in a heartbeat
Also did they ever say anything about the silo stratagem that's been in the files since like release
graceful bluff
Just chunking EAT12 shots into a chokepoint at close range during extract is so satisfying, same with this amount of samples
graceful bluff
what primary/secondary do ya'll bring against bugs nowadays? Been using the tenderizer/senator and wanna vary it up
stone bridge
my top 3 are the cookout, torcher and halt
graceful bluff
What do you run with them sidearm wise? small grenade launcher?
stone bridge
I tend to run gas nades, so it's usually the Senator or Ultimatum - particularly the latter if I'm running the Autocannon
graceful bluff
can gas grenades kill bug holes?
stone bridge
you can run the GL pistol if you want more ability to close holes, or just need it period if you're carrying utility nades
stone bridge
yeah they got demo force in a patch in november iirc
if you're a serious sicko you could run the halt+combat axe+peak physique and chop chargers to death
stone bridge
the dps loss is not minor
the combat axe deals over double damage
and attacks significantly faster
stun lance takes 13 hits to a charger leg to take it down with peak physique
combat axe takes 6
graceful bluff
117 hits per minute compared to 150
looking at the wiki they should have the same damage
stone bridge
yeah but you're going off the raw stats which don't tell the whole story
the way the melee weapons work, they essentially do damage per game tick they're in contact with a damageable part
the stun lance stabs and retracts, so it doesn't tend to be there for long
the stun baton bounces off most armour sources
the combat hatchet, however, cleaves through anything that doesn't bounce it
so it's there for longer and thus does more damage
i do have video evidence of this, i'm not making it up
oblique hazel
Yeah the axe deals crazy damage compared to either of the stub weapons
Also, the lance is just kinda awkward to use in my experience
graceful bluff
huh guess I'll pick it up next time it rolls around
oblique hazel
Maybe it's a controller thing, but I just couldn't get it to go where I wanted consistently
stone bridge
this covers the F key vs left click thing (its a myth) but also is a damage test
CH is near the end
unreal merlin
Maybe it's a controller thing, but I just couldn't get it to go where I wanted c...
It's pretty easy to use with mouse after practicing
I don't imagine controller gives the kind of fine input that makes it easy
oblique hazel
It's truly amazing to me how much this game published by sony favors MK over playstation controllers
graceful bluff
I mean it's a shooter
oblique hazel
I was I could use the halt 
graceful bluff
ofc it does
oblique hazel
Plenty of other shooters have better controller support and accessibility
graceful bluff
lol the helldivers.io superstore page doesn't work because they changed how the superstore works now
wanted to check when the store changes stock
stone bridge
rotation in 1 day 1 hour
graceful bluff
and it's drone master in the shop so it's gonna take forever for the axe to come back
oblique hazel
It should be next rotation actually
stone bridge
remember it's 3 pages at once now
graceful bluff
I just really want the combat shovel though
being able to make trenches is so nice
unreal merlin
I just really want the combat shovel though
Woe, blue stratagem with a 6 minute cooldown
cobalt patrol
I'm trying to figure out a good way to take out a whole bunch all at once while ...
Recoilless. That's basically it's niche, there's nothing else that matches it's ability to delete heavies
daring monolith
The only thing I struggle to deal with on bugs with recoilless is impalers but I may just be missing something
It’s incredibly good at killing BTs and Chargers though.
stone bridge
Impalers are funny because their armour is largely more of a shell
their main weakpoint, the "neck", is high health but low armour
you're a lot better off cracking a leg and pumping firepower into that
strafes also one tap them
oblique hazel
You can kill them super consistently with the RR once you can recognize their weakspot. It's significantly larger than the heads of Chargers and BTs, and the impaler is guaranteed to be sitting still whenever you have a shot at it
stone bridge
it won't actually do it one go
oblique hazel
The most annoying part in my experience is just waiting for them to open up so you can blast it
stone bridge
unless I'm misremembering
oblique hazel
Yeah it has to be right on the neck
But that's still a massive hitbox compared to a charger head
stone bridge
yeah important to be specific cause a lot of people think the whole thing is the weak spot
I know I did
oblique hazel
their main weakpoint, the "neck", is high health but low armour
I mean it sounded like you knew what you were talking about lol
blissful sparrow
iirc hitting the tentacle only disables thag tentacle or something?
stone bridge
I mean it sounded like you knew what you were talking about lol
apparently not!
oblique hazel
iirc hitting the tentacle only disables thag tentacle or something?
I'm pretty sure they do transfer some damage to main body
According to the wiki they do not actually
Also wait, I just realized something
Are those holes on the weakspot its eyes?
Is that it's face?
stone bridge
yup
cobalt patrol
The other easy way to kill Imaplers - shoot the leg
thjen just shoot the exposed leg
exact same method as chargers, tehy die real fast to that
stone bridge
yeah its that, shoot the "head", or throw a strafe at it
hexed steeple
there's nothing a lil autocannon barrage won't fix
cobalt patrol
Two the ehad when it's not deployed also works
cobalt patrol
Is that it's *face*?
Hope you dont have eye/hole phobias!
viscid salmon
<@&1206091872716595200> need one more diver
quick crown
It's truly amazing to me how much this game published by sony favors MK over pla...
As a pad player i've been recommended trying gyro for the fine aiming.
Going to give that a shot at some point
hallow gorge
I've been enjoying the gyro aiming
graceful bluff
gyro aiming was the main(pmuch only) upside to the steam controller and it's only gotten better as a concept since then
What kinda range does the hellbomb catapult tech get
Don't have the hellbomb yet so can't check
strange vine
click thru https://www.artstation.com/artwork/obgLwW
also click thru https://www.artstation.com/artwork/elkxGP
oblique lotus
what primary/secondary do ya'll bring against bugs nowadays? Been using the tend...
blitzer
hazy oriole
The other easy way to kill Imaplers - shoot the leg
I've also had a surprising amount of success hitting them in the butt with AT or a thermite, though I can't verify if they've been damaged previously or not
graceful bluff
Their ass, much like the charger ass, is weak to explosive damage yeah
graceful bluff
<@&1206091872716595200> Once more into the gloom hotbox
tight zephyr
I tried out the AT emplacement and that thing fucks against bots.
graceful bluff
it's great vs bugs too
if you find a hill you can just sit there providing artillery fire across the entire map
unreal merlin
My favorite activity is AT emplacement on high visibility bot missions
Give me a hill and I will cosplay SEAF artillery all mission
tight zephyr
One of my friends has embraced the Sapper lifestyle and I should get her on this particular boat.
hexed steeple
https://discord.com/channels/426286410496999425/1342999448212471859 <@&1206091872716595200> it's divin time
graceful bluff
Tried the hellbomb catapult thing, it's tougher than it seems
agile fable
Tried the hellbomb catapult thing, it's tougher than it seems
an attempt was made
graceful bluff
You know what would make a great upgrade for the portable hellbomb
double the arm duration, now functions like a dark fluid jetpack after its been armed
cobalt patrol
I think you just want the Dark Fluid Jetpack.
(Also, realstically, how would that even work? What if you dotn want the long duration, etc)
graceful bluff
Double activate it to speed up the timer?
cobalt patrol
Maybe, but it's still a very werid thing of "Suddenly your super obmb is also am obiltiy tool!"
graceful bluff
I mean more that suddenly your super bomb is a one way trip :v
cobalt patrol
Anyway, tehy really dont do upgrades like that currently. I'm still holding out we get a mech/vehicle bay and upgrades there for those
ionic holly
Really hope we get a vehicle bay, the fact none of the upgrades besides morale augmentation touches them (even then i'm just assuming it does) feels really bad
cobalt patrol
LOL
teammate runs to escape alpha commander
que "MY LEG!"
as the resupply c rushes her
unreal merlin
I think you just want the Dark Fluid Jetpack.
dark fluid jetpack but it works more like the rocket nozzle from mario sunshine where you charge it for a second and then ZOOOOM launches you up
cobalt patrol
Datamines indicate that ||Something like that might be comming||
unreal merlin
normal jetpack is like 80% forward, this one will be 80% upward
graceful bluff
Imagine an 80% upward into parachute/glider
and you just hang up there laying down fire get used as target practice by the nearest bot
oblique lotus
portable hellbomb alternate mode where it's got an impact fuse
trail nymph
<@&1206091872716595200> It's time to dive
sage plume
alrighty
trail nymph
2 more for freedom
sage plume
<@&1206091872716595200> still need more bodies
wide star
<@&1206091872716595200> still need more bodies
where you going?
sage plume
whatever we decide
graceful bluff
Hell
wide star
fair
graceful bluff
It should be next rotation actually
Oh huh no, no combat axe
graceful bluff
Just wanted to test if the raise weapon thing actually gave the ultimatum more range(it doesn't) and casually got a 100, nice
strange vine
tight zephyr
None of the Helldivers who were there at the start of the campaign are still alive so it’s fine.
graceful bluff
Any helldiver that survives combat for more than five minutes is a traitor anyway
tight zephyr
Ah, I found who the bomb collar armor was aimed at.
graceful bluff
https://theterribletenno.tumblr.com/post/680105107486064640/oh-my-god-thats-fucking-hilarious They really need to give us a bow or crossbow that has a bunch of different ammo types
like let me do a noise arrow to get a patrol to fuck off
heady halo
i still think they should make an ice gun
flamethrower spray but blue, no fire aoe but applies the ice slow effect from those expoding plants on ice planets
to stop it being over powered maybe give it a overcool meter- use it too much and you slow and damage yourself
uncut hatch
cryocannon from drg please
cobalt patrol
Gonna be glad when this mo is over. Too many folks on diff 10 who don't understand that you have to kill the nests asap, and that you don't have to stand and fight every breach
On the other hand, some really fun brawls and running fights
And great comedy like "so what are we doing?" Post 5 different reinforcements and a breach.
Us: "bunker!"
Then". "Ooooh."
(It had 20 super credits in it, worth)
strange vine
worth!
hearty pier
Gonna be glad when this mo is over. Too many folks on diff 10 who don't understa...
I've actually found it a great use for mines. Throwing a set of mines between us and a useless breach really helps encourage my team to move on. Or they just kick me and save me the time of a bad match
stone bridge
I've actually found it a great use for mines. Throwing a set of mines between us...
I don't think that's worth wasting a stratagem slot on, unfortunately
hearty pier
No, but the mines are actually quite good at breach blocking now anyway
2 min cool down for a lot of spread damage. Won't stop chargers/titans but the chaff simply go away
I don't think it's the strongest option in slot or anything but it's fun and works well enough
unreal merlin
One day we'll have gas mines and it'll be perfect for that specific job.
stone bridge
Mines worth taking at last
unreal merlin
I can confidently say they're the best mines because of the ridiculous amount of time they purchase. Yeah enemies don't die immediately and can wander into additional gas mines but it's not like the antipersonnel mines last long either.
Gas cloud puts that entire direction on hold for a loooong time.
strange vine
mines need to have cooldown dropped to a minute or less tbh
theyre the most passive stratagem
blissful sparrow
i just toss flame mines into a bug breach and the bugbreach is gone
also deletes voteless for a minute
really the biggest struggle is body parts being blown around and detonating more mines
cobalt patrol
Man, being on the bot front again is noice
ionic holly
Favorite comment award goes to a random saying "this man makes the spear look like it has infinite ammo, jesus christ"
sage plume
potentially
strange vine
strange vine
calm sorrel
I respect your right to name yourself General Landmine, I respect your right to put landmines in between me and the enemy, but if you put landmines where I'm trying to retreat to you're getting kicked right before evac
agile fable
I respect your right to name yourself General Landmine, I respect your right to ...
keep an eye out for the mines, m8.
blissful sparrow
they glow red with and without bloom
blissful sparrow
?
they are still red glowing lights
just because there is a difference doesn't make them inivisible
calm sorrel
Without bloom they only glow as red as, say, the heads of the berserkers that were chasing me
Not saying they're invisible, but they don't register as a priority
At least I'm part-way through upgrading my PC, soon I'll at least have the option of turning on bloom
strange vine
so the stats for the spore burst variants of the scavenger, hunter, and warrior came out and while health-wise theyre identical to the regular versions, most of their body parts have increased durable values ranging from 25% to 50%
for reference, the regular variants all have 0% durable
the 40% durable on spore burst warrior heads is enough to push a liberator bullet from 3 shot breakpoint to 4 shot breakpoint for example
graceful bluff
I love the anti tank cannon so much, 1v2'd a pair of factory walkers at point blank lmao
tight zephyr
I hate these fucking armored striders.
stone bridge
important thing about armoured striders - unlaunched rockets are massive weak points
if you shoot them enough, they detonate and instantly kill it
and they're only Armour 2
unreal merlin
Yeah it takes a bit of precision but shoot the side-mounted missiles if you aren't already using a sufficiently anti-strider weapon. They're also still weak to hip-shots with medium pen+ weapons (railgun, Diligence/CS, autocannon, etc)
tight zephyr
Oh, I know.
I just keep getting rockets hitting me in the back of my head.
That said, I agree with the consensus that the AT emplacement is an S-Tier bot enfuckulator.
hexed steeple
if you shoot them enough, they detonate and instantly kill it
wait fr
tight zephyr
Yeah, you can even do it with the LibPen.
hexed steeple
i've been wasting railgun shots on these freaks this whole time
tight zephyr
Either way, I just keep getting assblasted by one I didn't notice until I was suddenly being sent back to the Super Destroyer.
stone bridge
arguably they're even more vulnerable than standard striders, they're just more offensively capable and you need more precision
tight zephyr
Yeah.
This is not a very strongly held opinion, I'm just griping because I think they're annoying.
But I am glad I decided to bring an AT emplacement to the last run I had.
I didn't have the most kills, but I think I had the most kills on tanks and factory striders.
unreal merlin
This is not a very strongly held opinion, I'm just griping because I think they'...
It's okay I think they're annoying too with their stupid torpedoes
This is why they can eat cannon shells from my AT Emplacement
ionic holly
But I am glad I decided to bring an AT emplacement to the last run I had.
Sorry not exactly related to the comment at hand but i wanna just bounce off of it a little
does anyone else who uses the AT emplacement also find themself with an issue of "i still have like 10 rounds and it's only chaff this point, blow em up so i can move on from this emplacement"
tight zephyr
I just abandon them once I run out of targets and if I find it again later that's just a bonus.
ionic holly
i am Stubborn and don't wanna abandon munitions
unless it's genuinely risky to mine or another diver's health
super earth paid for the whole 30 rounds, i'm emptying all 30 rounds
quick plinth
medium pen to their[reinforced striders] hip takes them out quick and doesn't even require precision
graceful bluff
if you shoot them enough, they detonate and instantly kill it
There's an amazing animation if you hit it near the back of the rocket that causes it to ignite and just judo throw the strider into the ground
tight zephyr
Nah, just ditch the turret. Helldivers leave every battlefield littered with UXO.
graceful bluff
Sorry not exactly related to the comment at hand but i wanna just bounce off of ...
They're still amazing for clearing chaff, but usually no. I try to put them in areas that can see most of the map
enemies don't shoot it when it's unmanned, so they tend to survive even if you leave it
which is why I always drop one on extract if we spawn there
tight zephyr
The Helldiver Corps is not very efficient with resource deployment.
The one thing I do find interesting from an in-universe perspective is how much stuff is crammed into the formfactor of a Hellpod.
I just think it's Neat.
unreal merlin
i am Stubborn and don't wanna abandon munitions
I do the opposite of leaving UXOs around: I'll even collect spare weapons and supplies on extraction just to deny the enemy those resources >:)
every POI gets all its ammo and grenades collected
ionic holly
Now that's funny
but yeah i just don't like leaving behind unused ammo is all
which is hilarious because if i am
completely dry on spear shots i just call a fresh one in
mostly cause that's way better than burning a resupply for myself
graceful bluff
But yeah especially against bots I feel like it's always worth it to pop a shot into a group of demolishers
ionic holly
Oh when i say chaff i just mean raiders, anything higher it's a shell to the face no questions asked
graceful bluff
It's specifically to damage the demolishers and clear anything that can call in a dropship
ionic holly
Aye, fair
honestly i might switch out my eagle flex spot for a permanent green spot, either AT emplacement or rocket sentry my beloved
or flame sentry
i do love my flame sentry
graceful bluff
I've been real happy with rocket sentry, anti tank turret, liberator guard dog, flex
flex being either an eagle(airstrike/500 usually) or a stratagem weapon
most of the time I just scavenge a stratagem weapon from the field though
unreal merlin
I used to do that a lot in squid missions since the city gate POIs were so commonly stocked with Machine Guns
graceful bluff
Mainly mean that there's probably gonna be spare ones from other players
and if there aren't, I didn't really need one in the first place did I?
unreal merlin
Squad sharing their blue stratagems should be more common
graceful bluff
I don't think I've ever had someone say no if I asked to grab one of theirs when it next gets off cooldown
and I usually drop a guard dog down with people if I call em down in a spot where it might be annoying to get to their stuff
unreal merlin
I do get a little 🙄 when I see three people bring the same thing like they can't survive 5 minutes and just bring a red/green stratagem instead
Shoving them into the get-along sweater until they learn how to share
stone bridge
yeah
oblique hazel
i've been wasting railgun shots on these freaks this whole time
Tbf railgunning them is supremely satisfying
unreal merlin
Only takes one safe-mode shot to the groin to instantly kill an armored strider, and you can rack out those shots pretty damn fast.
unreal merlin
holy shit he can't be stopped
cobalt patrol
I'm impressed
glad marsh
hey hi hello friends, it's been a while.
but would anyone be around for an op or two? <@&1206091872716595200>
I'll be sitting in HORUS
cobalt patrol
hey hi hello friends, it's been a while.
but would anyone be around for an op or...
I need to feed cats, but then I think I could do something
sage plume
hey hi hello friends, it's been a while.
but would anyone be around for an op or...
If there still is a spot in 5 mins
glad marsh
If there still is a spot in 5 mins
should be!
cobalt patrol
I am here
cobalt patrol
@quick plinth Can't join cos it's private, can you set it to public please?
quick plinth
yea sure
cobalt patrol
Still private
quick plinth
it takes a bit
cobalt patrol
lol
Till Slammed into the extract vehicle in their hellpod
a
nd isntantly disembarked into the seat to leave.
10/10 landing
stone bridge
Fantastic
quick plinth
glad marsh
@stone bridge if you wanted to join us, we'll have a spot for you in a sec
stone bridge
glad marsh
is open!
stone bridge
flamethrower vs bots experiment: pretty good, terrain really didn't help, might need Inflammable next time
glad marsh
It seems surprisingly effective
stone bridge
little bits of terrain kept picking up the flames and setting me on fire
stone bridge
It seems surprisingly effective
yeah, you can flame hulks down quite fast and it heavily suppresses anything you point it in the direction of
i think i just run flamerthrower + DE Sickle + heavy inflammable next time
cobalt patrol
@stone bridge Your smokes were on point btw
let me get a couple of one shots on Factory Stirders i coudlnt ahve otherwise
quick plinth
also briar I meant to apologise because I'm certain while I was sitting on the AT/E I ragdolled you down a cliff by hitting the lip of a rock rather than the bot behind it
stone bridge
<@166290470530580480> Your smokes were on point btw
ty! smoke nades are good
stone bridge
also briar I meant to apologise because I'm certain while I was sitting on the ...
nah its cool, np
cobalt patrol
nah its cool, np
Getting blasted by teamamtes is just what happens when you have the flamethrwoer
viscid salmon
<@&1206091872716595200> anybody down for some bot diving?
strange vine
graceful bluff
Finally, mines teammates won't blame me for walking into :v
quick plinth
blissful sparrow
ah, the Moderately Feeble Young Adults yearn for the mines
graceful bluff
I still feel like the mine deployer should get a turret like the resupply pod does with that booster
blissful sparrow
it should get a little super earth flag
considering how much raising one attracts enemies
strange vine
If we hold bekvam iii we can hold both
glad marsh
I still feel like the mine deployer should get a turret like the resupply pod do...
Landmines around a resupply seems like a terrible idea
graceful bluff
Landmines around a resupply seems like a terrible idea
See I already liked my idea, but I like this idea even more
blissful sparrow
free landmines with every resupply pod
i hate it when someone else doesn't leave me any
tall stone
Time to go save some Moderately Feeble Young Adults.
hot cosmos
they are more than moderately feeble young adults, they are voters
i will not have any more votes be lost forever to the clanker menace
keen zinc
Landmines around a resupply seems like a terrible idea
i dont think thats what they meant
blissful sparrow
it is a great idea however
graceful bluff
Just let me pick up mines and frisbee them like we're back in mgs 5
bronze cargo
Please God can we finally get the mines
agile fable
How much y’all wanna bet that we’ll end up holding both?
graceful bluff
Please God can we finally get the mines
bronze cargo
bronze cargo
They were available again for a short time after the mine rework
steady flameBOT
Wait, mines got reworked?
bronze cargo
Better spread so they chain explode less and shorter cooldown
cobalt patrol
I'm conflicted on that because the griefing potential goes up.
But also they need something
quick plinth
like-
it would be very funny if we delayed getting the gas mines again
on the other hand
the gas mines are arguably one of the only mines that would actually do what mines are supposed to, delay.
graceful bluff
I'm conflicted on that because the griefing potential goes up.
But also they n...
lower cooldown, make them easily visible
also apparently the heavy gas armor makes you entirely invulnerable to gas
hazy oriole
on the subject of heavy gas armor, i do find it odd how it's 400 super creds when other heavy armors are only 250
graceful bluff
I have seen no consistency in how they're priced
hazy oriole
bwuegh
quick plinth
gonna chill and farm some SC if anyone wants to join me at some point
graceful bluff
Yeah I'll pop in in 15 min or so
barren iron
if we dont save the moderately feeble young adults
I'll be quite peeved
notably because I think this is a charity event like the last one
quick plinth
I think they'll donate anyway
barren iron
prolly
bronze cargo
I mean as of right now the planet that leads to both MO planets is on defense campaign anyway so
Could have both
bronze cargo
less than a minute imo
True- honestly I'd be happy with mg turret cooldown time
But EAT cooldown would be funny
graceful bluff
Well that took way longer than I expected
karmic prawn
Wonder if any of the moderately feeble adults were the very sick children, some of them would be all grown up by now
unreal merlin
Lol time to not get the mines again
karmic prawn
Yeah but if some were like mid 17 now they'd be old enough to helldive
(Which sadly they cannot, as they are moderately feeble)
tall stone
I am hoping the community elects to help kids again.
karmic prawn
Might be possible to do both!
indigo bear
Doubt we could manage both. They released a 'Interview with Joel' today where they talk about how they set up a buffer planet on a 24 hr timer for the community to discuss the choice before the buffer planet was made to fold.
So I expect that unless something extraordinary happens, this is a strictly binary choice
strange vine
Doubt we could manage both. They released a 'Interview with Joel' today where th...
Im pretty sure they still have plans for if the community manages it. Right now the defense on bekvam iii is up in the air, might pull ahead
graceful bluff
https://youtu.be/9p_Si21ig7c music to botdive to
crystal badger
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRFiXjmpS9Y music to bugdive to
graceful bluff
<@&1206091872716595200> Who up punching toasters
graceful bluff
<@&1206091872716595200> Still need two more
graceful bluff
<@&1206091872716595200> uno mas
tight zephyr
If nobody jumps in by the time I finish eating my dinner, I'll come in.
glad marsh
See I already liked my idea, but I like this idea even more
I just now realized what you meant originally 
graceful bluff
Too late, already raiding arrowhead and adding mines to the resupply pod
glad marsh
Oh
Right
Firebomb hellpods exist too 
quick crown
Lol dropping down during a scrambler and dropping mines instead of an EATs at beginning of mission
tight zephyr
"oops"
strange vine
graceful bluff
Lol dropping down during a scrambler and dropping mines instead of an EATs at be...
Ah yes the wizard tech
cobalt patrol
Ugh. I don't actually like kicking folk, but had a real pair earlier. One just... Kept dying randomly, and then somehow managed to nuke us all, while claiming it was the other guys fault.
Then they escalated to team killing each other? At which point kick a roo.
It's diff 10, quit arsing around to such a degree.
Thankfully once I had ejected those two, everything else went way smoother and we had some real talented players. One of them solod a raise flag vs the bots, which is just hella impressive
viscid salmon
Ugh. I don't actually like kicking folk, but had a real pair earlier. One just.....
feel that- there's some people who just can't let their ego go 😭
strange vine
hexed steeple
lmfao
sweet surge
Has the Super Store ever been down before?
hazy oriole
i'd love to see factional conflicts down the line in the game's future
agile fable
it is apparently a thing that can happen according to the devs
tight zephyr
And it’s not like the Bots and Squids have any reason to like each other.
I mean other than they both hate Super Earth.
quick plinth
though I imagine the squids see the automatons as just another faction of humans to wipe out
considering their origins
unfortunately for the squids however, they'll never beat them at ground warfrare, since they don't have biomass to convert into fodder, and even if they herded converted humans to incursions against them, the automatons match them in number, but also have guns
a single heavy dev would mow down a horde of voteless
god now I got an idea for an animation project
but that would require modelling an entire city street eugh
blissful sparrow
Hulk Scorcher stomping through a sea of voteless
bronze cargo
Three Way fight between the Bots vs Squids on a Bug Planet to secure E710
(four way when a random helldiver squad shows up)
cobalt patrol
but its hell on performance
Specifically it takes way too much RAM iirc, which isn't an issue for some PC players, but it's a big problem for playstation and anyone not running a monster computer
calm sorrel
Just had a bot mission featuring two overlapping jammers. Had to take both of them before we could hellbomb either
quick plinth
this is what the hellbomb backpack and ultimatum is for I guess
unreal merlin
sometimes it do be like that, the insidious oil-bloods are always up to no-good vile machinations
indigo bear
Just had a bot mission featuring two overlapping jammers. Had to take both of th...
This doesn't happen too often, but it happens enough that I can slap out 'Overlapping Jammers' in chat in a pub group and folks are in sync
calm sorrel
oh yeah, wasn't much hassle at all to get ourselves organised with just a few words in text chat
just thought it was a funny thing to have happen
indigo bear
It's always a good laugh when you and the squad shut down the terminal and everything's still jammed
strange vine
speaking of factions fighting ive been working on a helldivers tabletop wargame
borrowing a lot from the old starship troopers miniatures game
blissful sparrow
The power of the sun in the palm of our hands
quick plinth
I'd really like an arc onehanded
cobalt patrol
The power of the sun in the palm of our hands
The viper commandos can tell even cooler stories of how they held off terminids with a knife and eight orbital lasers
quick plinth
also I feel that the plas-39 would be fixed if they just upped the rate of the burst
as in how fast the 3 rounds go
civic apex
hey anyhone wanna join me and my brother for helldivers?
verbal summit
I'd really like an arc onehanded
I want arc one hand and buff to the arc thrower
Gimme more arc :3
Let me cast spells on the enemies
crystal badger
I want an auto shotgun support weapon
verbal summit
I'd also love silenced equipment like a sniper
bronze cargo
Hd1 Tanto when- (not a hd1 player I've just heard of it spoken of before and would like to try the laser SMG)
rapid plover
we need the Trident as well
unreal merlin
I'd hoped that's what the SuperSickle was when I first saw it, since it has the dome-shaped thing on the end of the barrel
Laser shotgun would be quite nice for run & gun setups, though HD1's laser weapons didn't have the wind-up time HD2s do so Trident is gonna feel weird with that 0.25 delay or whatever it is
stone bridge
I mean, the Sickle has a windup
unreal merlin
I know it does, and it makes it a bit awkward when you're trying i to run around fighting at close ranges
graceful bluff
I still want an arc thrower big brother with a backpack
lemme just go full RA2 tesla trooper
hazy oriole
it'd be fun if it worked kinda like the quake lightning gun to differentiate it
cobalt patrol
They gotta redo how the mechanics work, so people piling onto bugs doesnt affect the mos 😦
becauise like bugdivers have every right to do what they think is fun
but it does get frustrating
verbal summit
Is bugdivers even really a thing? I haven't looked at numbers but all my friends prefer bots so I'd sooner expect there to be a botdiver problem
royal lantern
As a bot/squid diver I am also always a little surprised by it but yeah as I understand it the majority of players do actually prefer to fight in the bug sectors, only during big MOs is it even close to equal afaik
sour falcon
Given the amount of marketing the game had that focused solely on bugs, it isn’t too surprising
They do also feel like the most complete enemy faction, if I’m being honest
Bots are close and I really enjoy diving them but I understand how someone new coming in decides to stick with the bugs
blissful sparrow
Bugs also tend to have the most varied missions
i like bots, but every bot mission is the same
while Bugs have like 3 different "spawnsets" right now, with spewer, normal and gloom enemies
verbal summit
I suppose bugs kinda have more different enemies when I think about it
Like sure the light bots have like 3 different guys but they're practically the same considering how not dangerous they are. Then you have the medium ones which is just 3 different ones the shield guy the normal guy and the rocket guy.
Oh and scout striders
Maybe bugs have less different enemies but it still feels more varied yeah
barren iron
Bugs have a bunch of enemies and honestly they feel really good to shoot
They go pop and die in droves
agile fable
I like bugs because of the sheer variety
I like bots because their weak points are obvious
I like illuminate because the horde is easy to kill
verbal summit
I like bots most then bugs then illuminate
Mostly cus I'm still figuring out gear for illuminate
I have trouble hitting the heads with the amr against them when against bots I don't have that issue
blissful sparrow
i find the voteless horde very fun to cleave through
but squids only having 2 types of enemies, harvesters and overseers makes it so monotone and boring to play
But seeing an orbital napalm strike with 200+ kills makes the neurons cackle
quick crown
I wish killing the bugs with the car felt more doable
I wouldn't mind if I couldn't run over the medium sized ones but the basic warriors feel like they should get pasted more often than it happens
sweet surge
The community highly overestimates how many ppl only exclusively play on the bugs side.
cobalt patrol
The community highly overestimates how many ppl only exclusively play on the bug...
Do they? There's still a significant chunk. It was something like 30k people online when I was kvetching, and a solid 8k lump over in bug land
verbal summit
I like how there's an at everyone in there so if the wrong person reposted it here....
agile fable
War’s on hiatus for a sec. This gives everyone time to play monster hunter.
cobalt patrol
I like how there's an at everyone in there so if the wrong person reposted it he...
Oh gods, I didn't think of that. Hopefully it doesn't work like that when forwarding it!
golden ledge
Wait what happened?
strange vine
Backend update fuck up some stuff
calm sorrel
Some decimal point in the wrong place and the Bot invasion of Bekvam III folded like a crepe
quick crown
War’s on hiatus for a sec. This gives everyone time to play monster hunter.
Guy who runs the war: "Shit i have 10 hours till i can play and i have to work this weekend what do i do"
Button that breaks the war
golden ledge
Oh so both planets got saved accidentally?
calm sorrel
yep, looks like we managed to push them all the way back to Martale before the pause
agile fable
Talk about a warpath
hallow gorge
Yeah the automatons were just tired this week guys
They're getting a good night's rest
hexed steeple
forwarding doesn't trigger @ everyone
upbeat vector
Oh thank god they changed it
barren iron
do they have anti SC farming measures now?
Did a trivial job to grab some SC, quit then rejoin and it dissapeared :(
rare nymph
I ran into that yesterday
strange vine
Did a trivial job to grab some SC, quit then rejoin and it dissapeared :(
you cant do that now, you just have to start a new mission
cobalt patrol
agile fable
everyone's called a ceasefire! it's time for sports!
the bots are playing soccer because any hand sports are just cruel to the heavier ones
the bugs meanwhile are fucking killing it at basketball somehow
and the illuminate know how to play baseball for some reason
rare nymph
They learned it from the voteless
cobalt patrol
the bugs meanwhile are fucking killing it at basketball somehow
I've got a mental image of hunters doing basketball dunks.
It's beautiful
cobalt patrol
After all this tiem
Welcome to the dive! We've got fun and games!
weary granite
Ngl when I first saw the season title, I thought it said "Ovens of Tyranny" for some bizarre reason.
meager saffron
thought you meant the destiny class and was about to raise strenuous objections
sharp crater
Ngl when I first saw the season title, I thought it said "Ovens of Tyranny" for ...
those are the automaton fabricators. where they bake the bots til they're ready to tyranny.
barren iron
the bugs meanwhile are fucking killing it at basketball somehow
pouncers or whatever they're called would fucking dunk on every helldiver
oblique hazel
thought you meant the destiny class and was about to raise strenuous objections
Idk, I think of all the classes hunters would be the best at dunking
meager saffron
yeah exactly
meager saffron
like sixteen different pieces of clothing dedicated specifically to ups
strange vine
https://i.redd.it/lry9nw4kgqle1.jpeg
shut bane
https://i.redd.it/lry9nw4kgqle1.jpeg
twas christmas in the trenches and the frost so bitter hung
agile fable
wow it's been a while since i've seen that happen
weary granite
wow it's been a while since i've seen that happen
You know what this is? Cause I kinda wanna play
agile fable
it's not an issue on your end, im afraid
cobalt patrol
OOF
Verify your files etc
Just in case
But they are having server issues it seems, given the backend problem
cobalt patrol
Still nope, so it is a server issue probably
Def cahse up customer support, they are pretty responsive from what i've gathered
Also! Whe nyou do get things working, rember that you can @ helldivers here to get a group together
plenty of us love introducing newbies to the game 🙂
civic apex
quick plinth
I will never stop wishing for a laser designator backpack stratagem that allows you to guide your own reds home
graceful bluff
I will never stop wishing for a laser designator backpack stratagem that allows ...
There's a missile silo stratagem that works like this, is fully implemented within like a few months of release, yet we've never seen
cobalt patrol
Suspect it's gameplay ended up somewhat sus
(as in not as fun as it seems, hard to balance etc)
quick plinth
right but that's one strat, what I meant is being able to say, precision guide a 500 or OPS onto a moving target
guide 110s so they dont lock onto the wrong thing
make the designator a deployable thing or at least slow to use, to discourage just running around and precision guiding stuff all the time
it honestly wouldn't even be that effective compared to just bringing a AT/E or a regular loadout, it'd just be neat
strange vine
hazy oriole
https://www.rxddit.com/r/Helldivers/comments/1j00ruc/a_little_peace_for_now/
the dev looks so polite, i would like to stand on my tippy toes and kiss his forehead...mmmmwah
agile fable
https://www.vxreddit.com/r/Helldivers/comments/1j03jge/we_ballin_with_new_homies...
just noticed the voteless cheering and the helldiver ballin on the propaganda tower
trail nymph
<@&1206091872716595200> Anyone up for some dives?
tropic isle
sure, who esle joining
crystal badger
I'm down.
tight zephyr
...Yeah sure why not
royal lantern
the dev looks so polite, i would like to stand on my tippy toes and kiss his for...
The way their head is set in their armor makes them look like they're peeking out from behind something, it would be very sweet if they weren't launching so many rockets at me
weary granite
I swear, if I come back from work and Helldivers 2 still has that error. I am going to McFuckin lose it tbh.
graceful bluff
the dev looks so polite, i would like to stand on my tippy toes and kiss his for...
I only saw this and thought it was about a developer lmao
tropic isle
<@&1206091872716595200> anyone for heckdivering?
idle hollow
unless something goes horribly wrong
we have saved the moderately feeble young adults AND the gas mines
graceful bluff
Can we yeet julheim into the singularity for fun anyway
ionic holly
unless something goes horribly wrong
"the illuminate have slingshotted the black hole right at Julheim"
unreal merlin
we have saved the moderately feeble young adults AND the gas mines
And they thought we weren't the best Super Earth has to offer, that we could only manage one.
agile fable
"Oh, what a dilemma! what will you save?"
"Both."
"B-both?"
arms portable hellbomb "Did I stutter?"
marble talon
tight zephyr
They didn't think this all the way through, did they?
tall stone
No, there was a bug in the Galactic War, remember?
north fiber
they absolutely were going to force it because people were dumb actually
but then yeah the galactic war got bugged and broke so they froze it
cobalt patrol
It broke, we basically super cleared things, and Arrowhead said they'd honor that, because it'd be screwy not to
ionic holly
Super earth deployed the Super Helldivers
rare nymph
They finally broke out the helldivers left over from the first war
agile fable
they sent in brasch
blissful sparrow
iirc Bekvam was explicitely intended as a 24 hour buffer before it would be forced to fall, and then the fight for Julheim or Tyr would happen.
but then the bug just secured Bekvam by accident
trail nymph
<@&1206091872716595200> 2 more for diving
sage plume
cobalt patrol
graceful bluff
the gas mines are apparently amazing for bug breaches btw
due to it lasting way longer than gas strike
idle hollow
due to it lasting way longer than gas strike
i need a mod that replaces the gas mine detonation sound with jerma saying "gyass"
graceful bluff
I mean shouldn't be too hard
though it'd probably be all gas explosions rather than just mines
https://youtu.be/7mUOs_G1_p4 for example
tight zephyr
I always seem to come back to the Tenderizer.
hazy oriole
she's a good 'un
crystal badger
<@&1206091872716595200> anyone up for some diving?
bronze cargo
<@&1206091872716595200> anyone up for some diving?
If youd have a random I'd be down but would it be ok if I don't join your vc? I'm in one rn with some other friends
crystal badger
I'd like to do some higher difficulty missions and those require communication.
bronze cargo
fair
oblique hazel
I can join in about half an hour or so if you still need folks then
bronze cargo
👍
crystal badger
<@&1206091872716595200> spot open
graceful bluff
Holy shit just learned something very important to bug diving
if you mark a tentacle it'll mark the impaler
unreal merlin
Neat.
marble talon
yo?
quick plinth
if you mark a tentacle it'll mark the impaler
I don't remember this being the case?
hm
quick plinth
so far only the tentacles get marked on my end
quick plinth
placid agate
quick plinth
its more likely that its just how many it can display
weary granite
There are too many divers
strange vine
Ive completed most of the basic rules for my helldivers 2 wargame! Now i need to make the factions and scenario rules and i can do some playtesting
viscid salmon
<@&1206091872716595200> hello chat, need 2 players to fill up a squad
hazy oriole
Ive completed most of the basic rules for my helldivers 2 wargame! Now i need to...
if i'm not horribly busy by the time the playtest releases ud love to give it a shot
graceful bluff
Me dropping into a diff 10 that some low levels clearly are having major problems with, bringing my portable hellbomb
No idea how they even got access to 10's
tight zephyr
I hit level 100 last night.
tight zephyr
Me dropping into a diff 10 that some low levels clearly are having major problem...
Also I would like to know the context as to why Pinhead is comforting this ape.
unreal merlin
Also I would like to know the context as to why Pinhead is comforting this ape.
Found it, it's from Hellraiser Anthology Volume 2. A handful of scientists were trying to get the chimp to open whatever puzzlebox summons pinhead, and it's fiddling with it but nothing is happening. One of the scientists gets mad, takes the box, and unintentionally solves it which summons pinhead who murders them all. From what I can tell, the chimp was never at risk of being harmed by pinhead or the box, for it is wholly innocent. The scientists presumably had whatever it is actually calls/activates the thing. "It is not hands that summon us. It is desire."
So in the image Pinhead has just flayed three dudes and the chimp is understandably terrified, so he's like "no it's okay buddy, you didn't do anything wrong"
tight zephyr
Ah, I see.
graceful bluff
Yeah a hard requirement of finding out is knowing why you're fucking around with the box
the scientists was trying to offload the finding out to the chimp
They've tried several ways of offloading the finding out, it never ends well for the scientists
sweet surge
agile fable
Billions have died
blissful sparrow
Squids only twice as deadly as helldivers to helldivers
strange vine
dont worry about it private
graceful bluff
This shows that only a quarter of all eagle call ins have been 500kg's
Gotta pump those numbers
weary granite
<@&1206091872716595200> anyone alive for a few chill runs?
strange vine
one of the private NPCs in HD1's bridge is a lady and she says this
limber pike
one of the private NPCs in HD1's bridge is a lady and she says this
Helldivers 1 had great world building such as this
bronze cargo
Glory to the Director-General
I mean super earth
bronze cargo
I mean looks like the bot planet isn't doing too bad at least
Current projected liberation in 10hrs
ionic holly
I don't mind losing MOs but when i think both our losses recently have been almost the same type of squids MO you kinda think something would change
but i could be wrong and if i am, ignore me
bronze cargo
Well the squid half looks like it's fucked yeah
But this is an either or MO so as long as the bot campaign succeeds the mo will be a success
unreal merlin
The squids MOs are always kind of scuffed because
- they're fairly repetitive due to limited objectives and enemy roster
- the resistance/duration balancing of each planet is such that you need the entire player population to fully commit to just squids to win
So asking people to fight the same 5 enemies and missions back to back over and over out of obligation when there's more fleshed out factions and missions to go do is a stretch.
blissful sparrow
hard shell, squishy interior
also 5 enemies is generous
There is Harvesters, overseers, Light bulbs and zombies
Flying and walking overseers don't really feel distinct enough from each other to be counted seperately
graceful bluff
yeah
quantity also leaves something to be desired tbh
compared to bots and bugs
strange vine
also 5 enemies is generous
There is Harvesters, overseers, Light bulbs and zombi...
ehhh theyre different enough the same way rocket devastators and heavy devastators are different
blissful sparrow
they have the same weapons, the same armor, the same target points
they are just 20° higher up on the screen
graceful bluff
They're just easier targets yeah
unreal merlin
Squids seem hard until you realize MG and AMR dunk on all of them with ease
Their weakness is bullets
bronze cargo
I honestly really like the Squids- I like not having to have someone lug around an RR
flexible faction
oblique hazel
I'm really not a fan of them currently
mostly because I'm just bad at fighting them, and I don't feel particularly inclined to get good when so little of their roster is out and I'll inevitably have to adapt to the rest of it when it does get added
ionic holly
Ive not found myself struggling against squids yet but they're very much testing my "I kill all factions equally" feelings cause boy howdy do i feel choked for weapons on them
Like, primary and secondary? i can bring whatever, not my concern
supports though?
its just HMG
ionic holly
Anything else i like is overkill as fuck/does not work with squids (spear/wasp)
supple siren
wait what the wasp works very well against squiddos I've found
ionic holly
Actually scratch that, not even overkill
just dont fuckin work
ionic holly
*wait what the wasp works very well against squiddos I've found*
Ehh
its good on overseers, ill 100% say that
supple siren
puts work on striders too!
ionic holly
Not in my experience
It takes me atleast 3~ canisters to kill, even if im prudent in popping shields with my primary
In burst, for the record
And its sadly a whole lotte nothing on voteless which sucks, i would love to arty an unalerted group
Ultimately they dont kill my enjoyment, im just pretty choked in what to use against em that i actually like
unreal merlin
Imo wasp is only really good at killing overseers at medium+ range, and while it's EXTREMELY GOOD at that it doesn't do well enough vs harvesters
Especially when compared to something like AMR/MG or quasar that just delimbs them in a few seconds
ionic holly
Mhm, that's where i am with it
i much prefer it on bugs n bots, more so bugs
nothing like artying a random warrior and wiping out a whole swath of the bugs
unreal merlin
I like wasp as a tool but I'd probably never use it solo. I see it as a "I have decided to singlehandedly kill all medium enemies for the team" tool so that everyone else spends their time just dealing with lights/heavies
devastators are in shambles, hive guards and commanders are in shambles
engage everything at long range and kill the actual threats (mediums) so you're only left with cleanup of lights
strange vine
they have the same weapons, the same armor, the same target points
they are just...
They have very different weapons actually. Overseer staves have a single big shot that has aoe damage, and has an energy shield and will charge into melee
Elevated overseers have 3 shot burst rifles and will throw grenades
cobalt patrol
I just enjoy being the RR guy into Squids
but you def need soemthing like the DE sickel to tango with the oversers if you're doing that
bronze cargo
supports though?
its just HMG
honestly Base MG works absolutely fine
ionic holly
I prefer the HMG
ionic holly
If we ever get a full blown backpack and gun minigun i would use the fuck out of that over anything
bronze cargo
but yeah I feel the opposite that the squids give me the most support weapon variety where I don't have to worry about AT
Hell squids are the first time I've used the Stalwart and enjoyed it
ionic holly
but yeah I feel the opposite that the squids give me the most support weapon var...
The issue for me is my main helldiver friends just don't know how to really fight squid's
i don't blame em for it, maybe a little frustrated since i've explained it so many times, but not blaming them
bronze cargo
fair fair
bronze cargo
The issue for me is my main helldiver friends just don't know how to really figh...
but how so? squids are usually straight forward
ionic holly
the way the overseers armouring works, shields not allowing bleed through
stuff like that
bronze cargo
aah
idk if you've tried telling them this yet so sorry if I'm repeating you but have you suggested either the Guard Dog or the MG sentry?
both are really good horde controllers and overseer snipers
ionic holly
I have, yeah
i've made more than a few suggestions, even noted to our AMR user how suited they are at harvester leg joint destroying
weary granite
Squids feel a bit manageable with the Autocannon for me
Mostly because I like smacking overseers out of the sky and hordes of overseer + voteless using the Flak rounds
Harvesters are a bit of a pain tho since I need to aim at the joints but the harvester weeble-wobble is atrocious
weary granite
Also anyone up later to help liberate Claorell?
karmic prawn
I'm very much looking forward to more Illuminate issues but I think part of the problem is the Major Order invasions pop up iregularly?
And since there's only two at once it seems like it's very easy to just run out of time
cobalt patrol
The main problem is the whole player has to pile in
And people still dont get that you have to complete entire cmapaigns
graceful bluff
And that's why defense objectives fail so often
because people skip the mission where you get fuckall for samples
idle hollow
dont worry about it private
cobalt patrol
Fan suggestion, but the last point has me ugly laughing. my sense of humor may be too dark sometimes
viscid salmon
My tactic for defeating Harvesters against those Squid bastards is very simple
Senator
All you need is the Senator
Run into their shield
Shoot both of the horns out which is two shot
Then shoot at the leg joints
No need for support weapons
tight zephyr
I’ve been getting pretty good at killing hulks with the Senator lately.
viscid salmon
I’ve been getting pretty good at killing hulks with the Senator lately.
Three shots to the face and boom 💥
strange vine
ionic holly
Yippie
unreal merlin
We already have a dozen of them sitting around on the battlefields, why not have one we can put where we want it?
cobalt patrol
tbh, i'd be for it, or even just a 500kg Mine
"500kg mine" is a delightufl sentance in and of itself.
unreal merlin
that's just a 500kg eagle strike with the impact fuse removed
blissful sparrow
impact fuse mounted the wrong way around
graceful bluff
Bomb dropped the wrong way around
graceful bluff
cobalt patrol
Wut.
quick plinth
driving the FRV with someone with a hellbomb backpack in the backseat (they've set it off)
burnt vapor
Uber Liberty™️
strange vine
unreal merlin
A conventional blockade will absolutely stonewall this unconventional enemy operation.
quick plinth
graceful bluff
Found a strategy for 10's that I'm kinda ashamed I hadn't thought of before
bring 380mm, yeet em at the megabase and just.. go and do other stuff
kills all the prespawned big things, and probably closes a bunch of the bug holes/kills a bunch of the turrets
then you just rotate back to it whenever convenient and finish the job
tropic isle
anyone wanna dive hecks?
bronze cargo
Perhaps
strange vine
rare nymph
I do hope folks will be able to wrap up that defense on the bug front soon so bugdivers can focus on bore rock
I would quite enjoy having 50% faster re-arms on my 500s
graceful bluff
I hope they continue doing stuff like that
will make people whine a lot less about bugdivers/botdivers if they get bonuses for their victories
hazy oriole
was going through some old clips and wow hulk flamethrowers would literally just oneshot you back in the day huh
supple siren
the instinctual fear of them is still strong
they just needed a touch and you'd melt
graceful bluff
and now you can just go prone
graceful bluff
Especially since helldivers keep going for their head(like a diipshit) instead of going for their waist
calm sorrel
we need more destiny players, that game teaches you the correct way to kill robots
meager saffron
aim for penis mass
graceful bluff
taking out a leg wrecks em hard, taking out both kills them straight up, which is incredibly easy to do with the railgun and is what I generally do when I'm at ranges where getting a dome hit is a pain due to the scope
one shot one leg
rare nymph
I use a railgun to pop the head at range then bring thermites in case they get too close - so far I havent had too much trouble dippin n dodging while I wait for them to pop
graceful bluff
hulks?
rare nymph
Ye
graceful bluff
A headshot on a hulk is an instakill even on safe
rare nymph
Yerp
graceful bluff
ah I see what you meant
but yeah remembering you can pop a leg to basically make em useless is a great tip if you don't have a good angle on the head or they're at a long range
and then you can just pop the other leg at your leisure
popping the flamethrower and a leg is feels like bullying on flame hulks lol
I really wanna be able to pop legs with safe mode because it'd be hilarious
But it's just barely not enough
strange vine
Im most of the way to getting enough mechanics for the first play test of helldivers 2 war game im making, does anyone want to look over the doc as it is?
unreal merlin
wargame, huh
bronze cargo
but yeah remembering you can pop a leg to basically make em useless is a great t...
Popping a leg with the railgun is so satisfying
to be fair: RR do onetap hulks to anywhere
so just making things easier for whoever is running AT 👍
hazy oriole
ngl i wonder if part of why i love fighting hulks way more compared to chargers is i can see hulks glowing from miles away wheras by the time i see most chargers it's too late
weary granite
Pardon me, but how the hell do you not see a bug the size of a bus?
Also just fought Terminids a few days ago. Fucking Stalkers.
stone bridge
Pardon me, but how the hell do you not see a bug the size of a bus?
Because Chargers don't have good sound cues and especially in higher difficulties, have a low enough profile it can become difficult to see them admist other enemies - no need for the snark
karmic prawn
They are very stealthy guys
strange vine
out of the 126 kills i got in the eradicate my group just did, 104 of them were from the portable hellbomb
cobalt patrol
Noice.
I'm very glad that things exists, the stupid meme potential, amazing plays and everything else it's caused is lovely
strange vine
i honestly want more semi-redundant stratagems
more disposables (disposable machine gun and there was a datamined disposable spear missile launcher)
more AT supports with backpacks
like a double shot laser guided missile launcher
tight zephyr
Guy tried to go back to Cyberstan.
https://cdn.steamusercontent.com/ugc/19807983198381171/5F9EC0A7BCB55BF7C8E62EB18D4674A655CE2B32/
ionic holly
tenderizer spotted
tight zephyr
It's my favorite gun. I always come back to it.
strange vine
tenderizer's excellent
tight zephyr
Simple point-and-click interface.
karmic prawn
more AT supports with backpacks
Quasar variant where the backpack is a second quasar
shy prairie
Spooky
cobalt patrol
That's just jim, he's harmless
trail nymph
<@&1206091872716595200> 2 more for diving
weary granite
Dang, was too late
sage plume
Dang, was too late
IN CASE YOU WANT
(sorry caps)
<@&1206091872716595200> one slot open im rotating out
ionic holly
Dumb stratagem desire but i just had one i like but know wouldnt work out
Backpack that is basically a mechanical arm that copies your chosen primary, assisted dual wielding
hazy oriole
This is honestly my favourite suggestion for adding dual wielding that I've seen
strange vine
That would be funny
ionic holly
alternatively it just uses whatever weapon you dont have equipped, support weapon excluded
just let the AI use the ultimatum, surely nothing bad will happen
quick plinth
ultimatum dog
crystal badger
I'd love to see a backpack tesla coil that just zaps enemies that get close too to you.
ionic holly
ultimatum dog
give it the gas drone's charging aspect so it just rushes enemies with it
rare nymph
Drone that just has an ultimatum grenade taped to it that rushes to explode on enemies
Just immediately annihilates a scavenger then goes on cooldown
ionic holly
seeker 2
rare nymph
Seeker 2: Electric Boogaloo
stone bridge
Can you delete this actually? This falls under our "don't post things just to be mad at" rule, it sucks and just drains the energy out of a thread
Gamers can be awful scumbags, we all know that
daring pelican
Sorry about that
cerulean sluice
strategem idea: some kind of explosive or electric guard dog
spare verge
drone that drops grenades instead of is a grenade
graceful bluff
Just a floating pitching machine
ionic holly
I still yearn for a backpack+support weapon stratagem that's just a minigun
i don't care how rarely it will be used, i will main it whenever i don't need to be a tank buster
unreal merlin
GRINDERRRR!!