Helldivers 2: For Managed Democracy!

[cobalt patrol]

Scorchers are still a meance if they make it to you. whcih is fine

I'm cool with them being a "kill before it gets near ya"

Also we know the bots are getting a enw toy at some point ||Their own mechs. They're inbetween Hulks and Factory striders in Size it looks like||

[oblique lotus]

I miss the bruiser oneshot gun

It had character

[cobalt patrol]

That is a very uh, unique opinion. I'm very chill with not getting one shot

Outside of obvious "I got blown to pieces b y a turret" or similar

[stone bridge]

Loller c'mon lol

I'd honestly suggest stepping away from the game at this point and coming back at a later time if you're becoming bored of it

[sinful briar]

ngl im too comfy for bugs 😭

[stone bridge]

That's pretty textbook burnout

[sinful briar]

wanna help? 🥺

[oblique lotus]

Idk it was the only time I'd think twice about challenging a hulk

[cobalt patrol]

Because it can diceroll you out of existances is yeah, that's not good diffuclty

what i personalyl wnat ot see is an icnrease in varied enemy units, across all facitons

give the bugs some more light ranged units, giove the bots osme interesting melee units (I'm standing by my "HEavy dev with a shield and a shotgun, and also it has jet boosters to CHAARRRGE the team" idea), etc

[shut bane]

that sounds so fun (the jetcharge specifically)

[indigo bear]

I wouldn't want to see things like that as a regular unit. Just homogenizes the factions' mechanical identities.

But if there were rare aberrant units that ran count to their faction's design rules, that would be cool

[strange vine]

I think more light unit variety for bots would be good, a trooper with a riot shield and shotgun would be fun

Riot shield being av3 and destructible

[cobalt patrol]

I'd vb e ptihcing it as somethign that works in conjunction with beserkers - a spearhead for them or soemthing

think "You have a pack of beserkers, one of them gets replaced iwth this guy who acts as "Leader" unit for them"

[shut bane]

exploding voteless might be interesting, keep you on your toes

[cobalt patrol]

That's a fair point. THough i dont think "mini-spewers" would be the worst thing for bugs. iT'S MORE THINKING OFS TUFF THAT CAN HELP SHAKE UP WHAT'S GOING ON

AND FORCE SOME FOLKS TO ADAPT ETC

[idle hollow]

are we still on the squid murder major order

[cobalt patrol]

People are very bad at defending against them 😄

[unreal merlin]

The issue is that a successful squid defense requires like 80% of the population to successfully manage, and there's always like 35% scattered on random planets

[cobalt patrol]

I do hope evneutally they take anotehr lok at "the player base has to focus ona planet to get anywhere"

At the very leasti t feels like it should only be taking into account action Against that faction

[unreal merlin]

For the past few weeks we've been entirely stalled on all fronts because people wouldn't just pick one place to focus. We lost Bore Rock and Esker due to it, Vog Sojoth floundered for days on end until the bug MO cleared, and it's impossible to keep up with anything and the Illuminate raids when they look like this needing 51% pop to be a win:

[shut bane]

i feel like something in the middle could work like if you do missions on another planet in the same quadrant or little chunk of space it counts 50 or 25 percent for the special invasion planets like your missions there allow SEAF command to send extra resources to the contested planet

[tall stone]

From a more normal capability perspective, the problem lies in that ships are very good at crashing into the gates of that one defense mission type.

[sinful briar]

couple more brain storming sessions like this and the bots will have fucking astartes

https://tenor.com/view/40k-warhammer40k-on-my-way-omw-space-marine-gif-27011220

they already got shitty dreadnoughts

[unreal merlin]

The trick to trivializing the gate defense missions is to just set up on the second wall instead. Don't try to hold the first zone.

Especially if you bring a few HMG emplacements

[shut bane]

i never get up on the first gate anyways cuz the mortars i bring would keep hitting my ass

[glad marsh]

Arrowhead when am I gonna get the super lawnmower so I can finally get rid of all those plants that have collision for some reason

[trim breach]

I still hate jetpack overseers with a passion

And think the game, as current, would lose nothing by just removing the fuckers entirely. 😛

[uncut hatch]

Helps if you bring some spears and just blow up all the ships as they come in. If you run 4 spears you can get every ship before they land

[fringe quiver]

Is it bad I like when the voicelines play when the helldivers become unhinged

https://www.tiktok.com/@grimmyaintreal/video/7342290709451459845

[burnt vapor]

nothing wrong with enjoying the game

[unreal merlin]

Recoilless Rifle to the belly will take them down, as will 2-3 AT emplacement shots.

But yes killing incoming ships works wonders on squids and bots for defense missions

[warped cypress]

https://tenor.com/view/car-cliff-meme-funny-idk-gif-27654668

*aimed towards a harvester

[stone bridge]

Try the Halt yet? :p

[trim breach]

Yes

GLA SUPER EARTH POSTAL SERVICE

[cobalt patrol]

SIR, YOU HAVE AN ADDICTION

=p

[trim breach]

I found the halt middling

stun is good if you have a buddy that cna take advantage, but good luck having that happen with pugs

It is good at deleting Overseer heads if you get close enough, though

[oblique lotus]

blitzer's a pretty solid overseer killer

slow killing but the stun does work

[hexed steeple]

love me halt

makes a satisfying sound

[stone bridge]

You don't need a buddy, just a Senator or to be quick on the draw

[stone bridge]

Utility primary goated

[trim breach]

Adjudicator works well if you can aim

My biggest gripe is most primaries take an entire mag to kill them

And you're often getting fucked by a half-dozen at once

Honestly the best things I've found to deal with them are either taking an MG, or throwing down a gatling sentry if you're about to aggro a bunch

[shut bane]

amr to the jetpack is my goto but they are sorta annoying otherwise

[tall stone]

The glory of Gun Dog helps this.

[cobalt patrol]

A tip re: overseers is that both the Senator and Loyalist fuck them up real good

Senator can flat out delete them in a single headshot if you're a good shot. Loyalist takes 3, but will take out crowds, and one-twoi shots will crack their armor open

[tall stone]

Fire Good against them too.

[cobalt patrol]

whcih then makes them simple with something like the Stahl

[shut bane]

finally saved up enough for my first warbond

[unreal merlin]

Instead of Gatling Sentry, use MG Sentry. The significantly lower cooldown means you can throw it out almost every fight, totally gutting the ability of overseers to do anything useful before being cut down.

[cobalt patrol]

Yeah, it's a very good tool for them

One thing i think people sleep on with low cooldown strats - esp turrets - ius how good they are at just bieng A DISTRACTION

like if you havent been detected and you throw a gas srtirke somewhere

everythting will run over to check the amazing stinky cloudy

Also, throwing Jetpack Overseer's grenades back will often kill them hilariously

also also also, their jetpacks are incredibly weak to small arms fire - any kind of bullet hail to them very quickly makes them pop and no more overseer

[versed hamlet]

I think they have much less alternatives in the pool
just the helldivers-side penalties
and a bunch of those got removed a while ago iirc because they were really obnoxious

[versed hamlet]

yeah esp. with how lackluster the new faction is
requiring a majority of players to act like the other factions don't exist (when a good chunk of them would probably rather quit than play against factions they don't like) doesn't make sense to me

I don't think encouraging players to be mad at other players for having fun in their own space is ever productive

a lot of players are already burnt out of the squids

[uncut hatch]

Yeah rr would be better if youd dont miss but with the spear its brain dead, just lock on and fire and it has pretty much a 100% chance of killing

[cobalt patrol]

It's funny, I hate the spear and wasp because of the lock on.
Don't take control from me, game!!!?

But I'm also the penguin who can reliably snipe harvesters at 200m+ with the RR, so ya know

[uncut hatch]

i mean harvesters are probably the definition of easy target for a RR, slow tall and decently wide

[trail nymph]

<@&1206091872716595200> 2 more for democracy

[trail creek]

YEAS

if they add c4 as well

[strange vine]

AH pleasseeee i want disposable MG so badly
https://www.rxddit.com/r/Helldivers/comments/1hr6e8n/minigun_this_gatling_gun_that_how_about_some/

[cobalt patrol]

Genuienly surprsied we havent seen more disposable strats, hoenstly

[trim breach]

Dumb thought for new FRV weapon

Just because I remembered this thing and how hilariously annoying you could be in it in Squad or Project Reality

Or: Militia faction is one of those 'irregular' ones that doesn't have access to a lot of heavy hardware or any air power whatsoever, while their opponents typically have tanks and choppers. What they do have is a bunch of SACLOS missiles bolted to the top of a speedy paper-armored BRDM

Now I'm just imagining an FRV that has something like a Commando bolted to the top, but with the punch of an RR

[shy prairie]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M50_Ontos

[keen zinc]

The perfect weapon

[agile fable]

gods beyond....ITS PERFECT

[rustic portal]

the ontos is so funny

peak "if it works, its not stupid"

[shut bane]

the thing

[rustic portal]

yup!

sometimes you just need six really big guns and enough armor to move them around safely

(originally intended as a tank destroyer but mostly used for fire support)

[oblique lotus]

and importantly a platform light enough to move around easily

[keen zinc]

the marines used the hell out of them in vietnam and loved them

lightweight as hell to get around the rickety bridges and poor roads

show up to a fight, unload shells to stun the shit out of the enemy, provide cover for guys to get behind

speedy retreat

[burnt vapor]

Also was able to fire flechette rounds which were very effective

[unreal merlin]

The "Beehive" Round, aka 10,000 nails in a can

[keen zinc]

the idea was it was fast enough to make a hasty retreat to cover to reload, and thus external reloading wasn't that bad

its not a tank so dont treat it like a tank

[cerulean sluice]

strategem idea: handheld Flechette RR
minimal art asset work needed, same reload mechanics as the regular RR, but now as an anti-light Strategem

[keen zinc]

would step on the airburst too much

would be better if they replaced one of the modes for the airburst with beehive rockets

[high epoch]

My thing is what if 2 factions never spawned their full numbers use the 2 halves of 1 factions spawning pool.

1 half for example bots and the other bugs. You'd have the same amount as 1 faction on a map but variety of enemy.

[odd arch]

I imagine the memory draw is from them trying to pathfind to each other and listening to 30 billion sound sources instead of just the 4 helldivers

[cobalt patrol]

Also loading the # of models into the memroy, the ai, etc

because it's not just enemies, you have to handle their reinforcemnt code, you ahve to handle their bases, etc

[odd arch]

they tried to out wash the earth

[cobalt patrol]

(The imnplcation is much more all citzens in super earth have brain damage from the sheer cogntivie dissoance they're awlays exposed to)

[spare verge]

furthering what I'm assuming is the intended subtext that the voteless's minds would be perfectly fine with illuminate mind control devices removed, but super earth refuses to understand this because of how they look
-# and that the voteless would probably not exactly be thrilled with super earth being completely unable to prevent their abduction and then giving up on them afterwards

[trail nymph]

<@&1206091872716595200> Democracy awaits

[idle hollow]

i want the gauss hog

so much

[trim breach]

Except the Gauss FRV's weapon will explode if you charge it too long

I just want a mod that starts playing the RvB warthog polka music when you jump into the FRV and I'll be happy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZS0WIQI7UU

[oblique hazel]

<@&1206091872716595200> room for one for bot 10s

[kind cloud]

God I love myself orbital barrages

https://tenor.com/view/helldivers-helldivers-2-orbital-barrage-380mm-barrage-gif-18250603846799368044

https://tenor.com/view/helldivers-2-helldivers-120mm-380mm-barrage-gif-10439930042694775035

Apparently they aren't as random as people think

[oblique hazel]

they're actually fully predictable iirc, but which barrage pattern you get depends on a lot of factors and learning any of them takes a lot of practice

[honest acorn]

They’re technically deterministic but in a complicated way you can’t meaningfully predict

[winged patio]

Some truly magical things are about to happen

And by "truly magical" I mean I'm going to spend the entire mission lighting myself on fire

[honest acorn]

https://tenor.com/view/elmo-fire-burning-gif-22103342

[honest acorn]

That's ok it just tickles with that armor on

[versed hamlet]

esp. if you're not the one to have thrown it and are just walking up to it later

[cobalt patrol]

Yep, they're one of 30 something patterns.

Buuuuuut, which pattern you get is hard to tell, and ofc, the angle you throw etc still matters, I believe (think off putting a stamp on the ground - you can rotate the stamp. Which in turn effects things)

[high epoch]

the flammenwerfer grind

https://tenor.com/view/fire-kill-fuego-matar-incendiar-gif-5307315

tbh it's satisfying to light bugs on fire.

mostly cause it crowd controls the little buggers and does true damage to the armor boys

also why i love the incendiary shotgun. i can just light a charger or even pile titan on fire. is it effective ? no but in desperation it works.

incen shotgun plus my entire cash of 6 impact grenades if i am desperate with armored. (i've gotten like 4 charger kills already)

[fringe quiver]

what's a good replacement for the breaker incendiary against the bugs?

I want an automatic rifle with fire bullets instead

[cobalt patrol]

I dont think anything like that exists currently

[fringe quiver]

rip

bugs are so unfun to fight rn

but then again probably just not understanding how to manage them as easily as the automatons

[trim breach]

Lasers? Sorta?

I think the sickle can set things on fire eventually.

The Scythe definitely can, but it's nto really the same thing

[cobalt patrol]

Bugs are mostly a "Did you do leg day?" test

[fringe quiver]

not that for me anymore

now it's just "can you deal with non-stop bug breaches for 5+ minutes"

swapped out orbital laser for orbital napalm

doing a bit better now

also trying to get used to railcannon

just can't

[cobalt patrol]

Oh, yteha, there's a reason i take spammable shit into bugs

actually i take spammable shit everywhere tbh

Gas Strike, 500kg, MG turret, RR is my goto bug loadout.

[fringe quiver]

I swapped to Quasar Cannon

[cobalt patrol]

I really dont like Quasuar into bugs, or most anyhting. it's jhust too slow on it's recharge peroid.

[quick plinth]

I mean, Arc thrower, Laser dog and whatever you want means you can just sit on a bugbreach

usually some anti heavy reds and thermites in support

[tall stone]

Gas Strike is great into bugs.

Locks down a breach for a long time.

[fringe quiver]

It's a mix between

breaches spawning a total of 40~ enemies

bug breaches being near instant

and patrols being overabundant

like if I kill a patrol there should not be another patrol in the exact same spot in 30 seconds

[burnt vapor]

Also the fact that Damn near the entire non-heavy bug roster can summon a breach means shooting the messenger is damn near impossible

[supple siren]

There's always One Little Bastard behind a chest-high wall or a boulder

but also bug breaches are delightful as a fan of poison and fire

[burnt vapor]

woe five f*ing bile titans upon you

[stone bridge]

My personal loadout into bugs is 500kg/Gas/Quasar/laser dog + Torcher/Senator/Gas

And I'm fucking cruisey

[supple siren]

Gas grenades are wild

Especially now that they close nests

[oblique lotus]

blitzer

[stone bridge]

Torcher + Dog melts hordes, Gas contains breaches and makes for excellent firebreaks, 500kg and Quasar handle any bigger problems

[oblique lotus]

medium armor pen, infinite ammo, high damage output for a primary, stuns

[fringe quiver]

too slow, needs to kill 20 with 10 of them being armored

[stone bridge]

Senator pops big mediums that need to go now

[stone bridge]

Torcher then

[oblique lotus]

I bring cluster/500kg/OPS/commando w/ blitzer/GP/stuns

and that blows through patrols just fine imo

[tall stone]

Blitzer + Laser Dog is my usual Bug thing, thanks to hating Hunters.

Quasar as well.

OPS and Gas Strike are the others.

[oblique lotus]

cluster kills all the chaff, blitzer kills everything else (and also chaff), OPS+stun/commando for anything big, 500kg if I need it

[oblique lotus]

you can drop 3 little ones per shot, the only things it really stalls on are spewers and guards and you can just kill them last

alternatively throw a cluster at the patrol and watch it vanish

[fringe quiver]

does that work for 4 patrols at once?

cause like

something is going horrifically wrong

[oblique lotus]

why are you fighting 4 patrols at once

[fringe quiver]

because they all spawn next to eachother

I wish I was kidding

like I just did a difficulty 7 mission

and somehow

[oblique lotus]

do we have the same definition of patrol here?

[fringe quiver]

every time I wiped out one patrol with about 8-12 enemies

another would appear under a minute

[oblique lotus]

oh a diff seven patrol is like 20 dudes

they're just big

[fringe quiver]

that's odd

because what was happening is I would kill 8-12, then 30 seconds to a minute, another 8-12 would show up

when a bug breach happened it was 40+

excluding bile titans or impalers

and I'm using the eagle cluster bombs

so they'd have to be really wierdly far apart

[oblique lotus]

uh

those are weirdly undersized patrols

[fringe quiver]

I mean maybe the map was bugged

cause I was sitting there going "no way this is normal"

I'm gonna swap to the blitzer because I'm just losing ammo so quickly

but tbf I noticed the breaker incendiary has less ammo now

err less total magazines

okay yeah

patrols are broken right now for me

first picture is the first half

the second picture is the 2nd half, behind me

having to use two times as much stratagems rip

Also yeah blitzer is working better but still somewhat unmanageable with how the patrols are being weird right now

cause if I trigger either half I can't seem to get the other half quickly enough to prevent a bug breach

like I've had an easier time dealing with the goon squad from eft than these patrol spawns

I'm still trying to wrap my head around it cause last time I seriously fought bugs was 2 weeks and it wasn't even close to being that hard and I was solo

[south temple]

man the lib pen is fun

with the siege armor it slaps

[stone bridge]

wow. what could this be a reference to

[quick plinth]

truly a mystery

[steady flame]

Is this a reference to the post-9/11 legislation? I'm sorry, I am.. Very out of it right now.

[stone bridge]

Yeah this is 100% a Patriot Act reference

[agile fable]

oh my god calypso was space 9/11 wasn't it

right down to the severe disproportionate retribution

[burnt vapor]

I don’t know if this response is exactly disproportionate they have attacked what a dozen planets now and killed hundreds of millions of people if not billions by now

[agile fable]

fair but the start was definitely disproportionate

[burnt vapor]

As in HD1?

[agile fable]

as in calypso. hd1 was humanities fault

[versed hamlet]

it's also possible you're running into a patrol meant for another player group

[versed hamlet]

I really love senator for bugs so +1
it absolutely deletes mediums

[burnt vapor]

I’d say calypso was also a fairly reasonable response
One of our planet gets attacked by a race we thought dead or gone, they are targeting civilians and turning them into zombies so we promptly dump every rapid response unit we can on them

[odd arch]

y'know, it would seem that they really improved the game's performance

I say this because I plugged my HDMI into the motherboard ()

and it ran about twice as fast as the last time I did that

[versed hamlet]

I think they mean helldivers 1

[burnt vapor]

They clarified calypso
I do agree the war against the squids in HD1 was entirely humanity’s fault

[winged patio]

Senator is goated as fuck

Only secondary that's maybe better is the Grenade Pistol

[heady halo]

https://www.forbes.com/sites/paultassi/2025/01/02/helldivers-2-director-make-good-games-dont-make-a-contemporary-political-statement/

wh

what

how the fuck is helldivers 2 NOT a political commentery

its obvious and on the nose but

fuck is this NOT satire?????

because this looks like the director saying "this is not satire"

[tall stone]

Not really. This looks like giving a non-answer to a chud to me.

[unreal merlin]

It's a satire narrative, but it's not the satire narrative that makes Helldivers fun as a game.

In the same vein, don't make a game whose only claim of "goodness" is that it makes political commentary one way or the other.

[odd arch]

I might be giving them too much credit but I read it as "this is not a joke this is what your govs literally look like" said in a way that'll go above their heads

[quick crown]

give forbes nothing when the opening to the article is "“DEI,” diversity, equity and inclusion, is another buzzword"

[unreal merlin]

(User): “Never add dei to your games”

Pilestedt: “If it doesn’t add to the game experience, it detracts. And games should be a pure pursuit of amazing moments.”

(User): “How would DEI have benefited Helldivers 2?”

Pilestedt: “I don't like labels. But mankind is united in its extreme xenophobia on Super Earth. #Inclusion so, maybe that's DEI? I really don't care. Make good games, don't make a contemporary political statement.”```
This is what pilestedt actually said. I dunno what forbes is trying to imply, the dude is right. Game should be a good game not a political commentary. You can HAVE that commentary but if your game sucks otherwise then it's just a shitty game

[quick crown]

[unreal merlin]

Article discarded from brain

[honest acorn]

Helldivers very clearly is a contemporary political statement though

[unreal merlin]

You can HAVE that commentary but if your game sucks otherwise then it's just a shitty game

they made a fun game with a political satire narrative over it

[honest acorn]

I don’t see what that has to do with what I said

[tall stone]

See my earlier point about Pilestedt giving a non-answer to a Chud.

[unreal merlin]

I guess I interpreted it poorly

[honest acorn]

But I think it’s kinda weird that you’re coming in to the defense of some random Twitter chud’s commentary now

[tall stone]

Hey now, that's not what's happening.

[unreal merlin]

I don't really follow

[burnt vapor]

I think It’s more so calling helldivers a political statement feels weird because it sorta implies that is it’s primary purpose
It has a message within it yeah but it isn’t a political statement in and of itself

[honest acorn]

That is what political statements are

There’s some kind of false dichotomy that there’s an either/or here being posited by the random commenter here and there isn’t one

“Good game” and “political statement” aren’t really in tension I think

[burnt vapor]

This might just be a deference of definition then and it’s probably best to just move on since I think we all agree on the point if not the semantics

[tall stone]

They're a random commenter fishing for a very specific line of reasoning that's unrelated to what Pilestedt actually asked.

[cobalt patrol]

Yeah, Pilestdt's answer reads as a non answer to a chud fishing for reasons to be mad.

I'll point out that there game actively doesn't label voices or bodytypes, and it's pretty on the ball with poc rep etc

[strange vine]

people getting mad that they randomly get dark skin with peak physique armor are so funny

[oblique hazel]

It's really hilarious

I love the efforts the game takes to make it feel like each diver is a wholly new person being thrown into the meatgrinder

[supple siren]

The intro cinematic into being instantly mulched by friendly fire turrets was such comic perfection

[honest acorn]

I want an ultimate bravery mode which just random weapons on respawn

[cobalt patrol]

Random weapons, armor & strats.

[indigo bear]

It would be a really cool planetary modifier.

'Outer Rim Planet: Due to logistics difficulties, helldivers must make do with what is on hand.'

[fringe quiver]

Alright after giving myself some time to think I figured out why bugs are so annoying to fight for me compared to illuminate and automatons

For starters illuminate is probably just missing units to make them tougher to fight

[indigo bear]

Just unlocked the '25% boost to fire damage from stratagems' ship module. Wew, we are cooking now.

[cobalt patrol]

Eh, i would need to iterate on it a bit more before it would be ap latneary modifier. then ovelty c ould run out real fast

[fringe quiver]

Blep got to go.afk

[cobalt patrol]

The big things that'd make it from "Terrible" to actually playable/fun would be:

Always give the player a support weapon of some kind (Solid argument that Emplacements should count here)
If they get a backpack support wepaon, theyt dont get a b ackpack strat.
If they get a support weapon with an open backpack slot, have a backpack slot strat too
One high cooldown, one low cooldown strat.

Maybe someting so you dont get "multiple mines"

[trim breach]

DRG did this, and it's hilarious

The 'Randoweisser' beer scrambles your cosmetics, weapons, and weapon upgrades. Doing runs with it is chaotic as hell, and I love it.

[azure pewter]

peeking over real angy

[verbal summit]

Tragedy

[cerulean sluice]

yeah they need a Bile Titan/Hulk analog (BIG THING KILL IT NOW) and some more mediums that aren't the flying bastard

[agile fable]

elevated can go fuck themselves

[daring pelican]

This happened in a game today so I had to make it into a gif

[agile fable]

nice legs idiot

[versed hamlet]

did they have autoclimb on? after climbing every bush and hellpod, I turned it off and felt so much better

[versed hamlet]

I think this would be annoying if it drew from what you had, since unlocking stuff that isn't good or you don't resonate with would feel like it punishes you
although all the buffs to the underperforming weapons would make it much more tolerable 🤔

I do really want the DSS or something to give random stratagems as a bonus to players, I feel like that would encourage build diversity without forcing it
🤔 although uh, they did have the -1 stratagem slot modifier? that could be cool if you combine it with free stratagems
like you get 2 random stratagems you can see beforehand and then have to customize the remainder
so you can still fall back on your favorites if you dislike that style, but are encouraged to branch out

[versed hamlet]

I think this highlights my biggest issue with the idea: that's optional
planet modifiers and operation modifiers in helldivers aren't really, you'll quickjoin a mission and it'll be active
there will be a time where the active planet is that and everyone will be forced to do it or take away % from everyone else; even those who don't have much unlocked so it does nothing, or those that have weapons that are super specific in their inventory

[trail nymph]

<@&1206091872716595200> Democracy awaits

[sage plume]

it does and i appear

[trail nymph]

1 more for diving

[graceful bluff]

I got two rounds of major order rewards when logging in that gave me something other than medals, what were these?

weren't the killzone stuff since I already had tose

[tall stone]

Bought the helmet for my Thicc Boi armor. Mmmm, 200.

[quick crown]

I can still hear the guns....

[muted burrow]

[trim breach]

"YOU'RE UP AGAINST THE WALL, AND I AM THE FUCKING WALL!"

[indigo bear]

Just had an awesome campaign with some quality randos.

Last mission, we hit extract and I notice there's still some red all the way across the map.

Drop my samples at extract, tell them to leave without me, and start sprinting.

Managed to clear the last bit of enemy presence on the map before they took off. Feels good

[sinful briar]

the fuck are people playing coop games with chat muted tho??

[spare verge]

children with parents that aren't taking any chances on online interactions comes to mind as one possibility

[sinful briar]

isn't the avg age of helldivers2 player base like late 20's?

[blissful sparrow]

people who have interacted with people online before

[spare verge]

children do play the game nevertheless

[sinful briar]

i recommend sensory deprivation tank

[sinful briar]

that's not the cause of avg 0.8 peple per lobby using chat

[oblique hazel]

People who don't want to join voice chat with completely random people online?

I don't get what the confusion is, that's an entirely normal thing

[sinful briar]

no, people just straight up ignore text chat and any attempts of me dancing in their face to read it

[oblique hazel]

Oh text chat

No fucking clue lol

[shy prairie]

Language barrier for some of em

[sinful briar]

at this point i ping in loadout and if noone responds i just exit lobby

[shy prairie]

Engaging with the game in a different type of mode for like a lot of em

[indigo bear]

I've had a lot of squads where people found the sensory debt of communicating while being shot at too high.

Generally though, waypoints and emotes prevail.

[sinful briar]

(i'd like to think) of course im not stupid enough to expect people to respond while actively fighting

[indigo bear]

I wasn't trying to insinuate that?

Just trying to offer an explanation

[sinful briar]

not taken as an insult, lol

guess im just tired with """coop"""

[trim breach]

Me when there's a guy with an open mic and breathing heavily/arguing with his mother/chewing loudly/has a fucking basketball game or podcast going on in the background

or I guess wait that's voice not chat

I'm an idiot

[spare verge]

any number of reasons why someone might not want to talk to randoms even in text so it's hard to guess what the most prevailing one might be

[uncut hatch]

I mean theres a lot you can communicate with just pings and typing stops you from doing anything but type

[fringe quiver]

me slamming the ping button and typing "2 panel door here" but they don't turn around while standing 20 feet away and instead go towards the objective

[tall stone]

Oh, yeah, I don't know how to fix those folks.

[strange vine]

https://www.rxddit.com/r/Helldivers/comments/1htktrd/fun_fact_the_eagle_strafing_runs_original_fire/

[uncut hatch]

Ff them and throw their respawn at the door :))

[shut bane]

everyone i encounter with an open mic always has the low battery ping on their smoke alarms 😭

[fringe quiver]

hilariously not everyone knows what that is lmao

[shut bane]

you'd think it would be annoying enough to check, maybe its only a thing a landlord can do

[fringe quiver]

nah

you literally just pop off the smoke alarm and replace the battery

the apartment company I rent under actually appreciates it when we do it so they don't have to get the maint crew involved

so they provide the free batteries

[cobalt patrol]

Accidentally brought MG turret instead of Rocket turret into bots. Little guy is doing more than i thoguht he would

[kind cloud]

MG turret is med pen so he does work on devastators

[versed hamlet]

text chat is painfully hidden it feels like
I am terminally chatty (in it) and I often miss messages unless I'm playing with someone I know uses text chat

I really wish there were more settings, ie to make it bigger or have the 'discovered x' displays be in a different feed

[versed hamlet]

also I'd argue this is inaccurate, you'll be getting tons of medals while sc farming also :3

super helldive would be 36 base per operation with a few PoIs (with the loot pool also being diluted by rare samples), and the time would probably be something like 30m 30m 10m
trival would be 1 base with similar odds to getting sc for more I think? and the medal rewards of PoIs are random between 1-3. time can easily get under 10m even if you extract, although it's more vulnerable to long load times and bad maps

[hazy oriole]

OH SHIT i forgot about that, deffo gotta bring him

[unreal merlin]

Mg turret is great especially if you have coverage for heavy+ enemies like proper AT. It'll cut down entire patrols of raiders/striders/devastators at great range and has a low enough cooldown that you can use it almost every time you get into a fight, sometimes multiple times

[trim breach]

MG turret also has a lot more uptime than the Gatling

[oblique lotus]

iirc its 100% uptime

[unreal merlin]

More actually, if it's not burning all its ammo out. You can wind up with 2x deployed at once easily

[supple siren]

They do really love burning their ammo out though

Watching 150 bullets ricochet off a tank corpse is artful

[oblique hazel]

at least they know to stop firing while switching targets

[stone bridge]

they don't actually lol

MG turrets also just keep firing

it's just less likely to kill you

[oblique hazel]

oh yeah huh

I was more thinking in terms of ammo efficiency, but I guess a gatling turret is still gonna burn more ammo switching targets than an MG just based off fire rate

[indigo bear]

Wonder if we'll ever get a beam cannon sentry.

Man. That thing would shred teams

[supple siren]

The gatling sentry is so good at sawing teams in half it'll be hard to compete

[trim breach]

around the time we get the flamethrower guard dog, probably

[oblique hazel]

cursed concept

arc dog

[versed hamlet]

imagine a thumper sentry: it just knocks things down

[cobalt patrol]

Gattling turets are just VERY excited

like a murderous crippled puppy with a gattling gun

[versed hamlet]

this does make me wonder for anyone who has the dog breath drone unlocked: how's that with friendly fire?

[oblique hazel]

its much better than the other 2 dogs because it works pretty differently

[supple siren]

Pretty safe actually! Instead of just spraying from a distance it actually gets up in the enemy's face

Plus the damage is dainty for teammates

It's mostly a Stun Machine

[oblique hazel]

it picks a target and follows them around spraying them until they die, then moves onto another victim

so unless you or your teammates are also right next to its chosen target, you'll be fine

[versed hamlet]

sounds nice!

I think EMS and gas are much more debilitating status effects for npcs than for pcs inherently

[stone bridge]

Honestly I wish the dog breath was good

[oblique hazel]

god me too lol

[cobalt patrol]

Yeah, it's problem is it does fuck all damage

but wants to chase stuff

[stone bridge]

But the Sterilizer is. Just not a good weapon coupled with bad AI for the drone

[cobalt patrol]

and sticks to one target

[stone bridge]

If it had sweeping behaviour it'd work significantly better

[versed hamlet]

yeah AoE confusion sounds better than confusing 1 enemy and then spraying them until they die

[oblique hazel]

it could even mostly keep its current behavior if it just moved on once a target actually gets the gas debuff applied

[versed hamlet]

given that info, these are my general feelings on friendly fire:

for me barrages drop down a lot if the person using them has a mic, just calling out every time they use it massively reduces the risk since you always know when there's an ongoing barrage

[hearty pier]

The barrages also depend on difficulty too. I find in the high intensity engagements of diff10 nobody should be going into the spots where you'd be throwing a 120mm anyway

[versed hamlet]

laser drone probably also deserves it's own category also
"will probably kill you at least once randomly but isn't so bad if placed well"

feels like paying the tithe to use it when it does happen

[stone bridge]

<@&1206091872716595200> two more for high diff diving

[versed hamlet]

is it okay if I'm in vc but don't have a mic?

(or rather just really suck at talking and playing at the same time)

[stone bridge]

sure, we are sadly full though

[versed hamlet]

understandable
should have just joined ig lol

[sage plume]

@versed hamlet Im rotating out, hop on in

[sinful briar]

🤔 might try sub in for usual gattling strike

or for mortar? eh, mortar too satisfying

[unreal merlin]

Depends what I'm fighting but my usual loadouts are

BUGS
- Liberator/Crossbow | Grenade Pistol/Dagger | Gas Grenades
- Railgun | MG Sentry | Orbital Gas | Orbital Gatling

BOTS
- Crossbow | Dagger | Gas Grenades
- Railgun | AT Emplacement | MG Sentry | Orbital Precision (Flex Slot)

SQUIDS
- Liberator | Grenade Pistol | Gas Grenades
- Anti Materiel Rifle | HMG Emplacement | MG Sentry | Eagle Strafe```

All using medium scout armor unless it's a defense/eradicate mission in which case engineer for more grenades.

[sinful briar]

after the handling buff, Diligence CS is my most reliable primary

medium pen, very good dmg, amazing handling and scope

i have no fucking clue why would anyone use ex. Slugger at current state

[sinful briar]

how is the buff on scout?

my favorite armor for bots are the prosthetic ones, the 160% yeet is just so useful

for the others, usually engineering kit light-medium, extra grenades+ MG recoil support

[sinful briar]

amazing combo with jump sniper loadout, especially if i manage to get the jetpack and AMR from teammates so i can hog strikes

[unreal merlin]

Scout
Markers placed on the map will generate radar scans every 2.0s.
Reduces range at which enemies can detect the wearer by 30%.

The map markers are useful if you're diligent as you can scout all over the map to identify POIs and act as early warning for the team by detecting patrols on your route or if you're being flanked. The reduced detection range is misleading: it's way better than 30%. You can low crawl through entire objective sites without alerting anything.

[sinful briar]

whoaa

which medium armor has this?

[unreal merlin]

Page 8 of the default warbond. Page 7 and 1 also has a light and light+ version as well. I used to run those but got tired of stray bot bolts clipping me to death and medium armor is just as sneaky.

SA-04 Combat Technician

[sinful briar]

oh, looks fairly nice even, thanks 🫡

[indigo bear]

Really hoping we get a dedicated stealth warbond. I would love to do more stealth gameplay

[sinful briar]

https://tenor.com/view/skatingby-sneaky-sneaking-sneak-gotcha-gif-7641348

[unreal merlin]

I'm all for doing objectives entirely covert and undetected, it's rather difficult when your best options are either melee or just normal guns. With a well utilized liberator or diligence/CS you can do a lot by rapidly executing alert capable enemies

AMR for squids

[tall stone]

Sorry, can't hear you over the ultimate stealth weapon: Explosive Crossbow

[unreal merlin]

You'd think, but it isn't STEALTH ENOUGH for my tastes. Yes I know "no survivors, can't alert" and all, but I want a suppressed Liberator or something too.

[tall stone]

What? Oh, no, it's not a case of No Survivors, Can't alert!

Firing the Crossbow is silent!

Only the explosion attracts attention.

[unreal merlin]

Yeah, and the explosions are the problem when I want to be subtle.

Trust me, I've been using it and still do.

[odd arch]

it's very subtle because everyone's on their way to stare at the explosion site instead of you

which is hilarious AI design to the point where I can't decide if I want it fixed

guard following a trail of rocks thrown over his head: extreme

[unreal merlin]

The quasar has the same property and is much more noticeable.

Too many times I've just had entire outposts pivot and face me after one crossbow takedown.

[verbal summit]

Stealth sniper and pistol for the love of God please

I'm already using the diligence counter whatever its name is against bots with the wasp launcher now, used to run AMR. I love snipers raahh!!!

Give me longer scopes and silencers

One of my fav things is when a teammate is going somewhere with enemies to be lying on a hill and sniping them away for them.

[odd arch]

tbh I never use the highest magnification on DCS

[verbal summit]

Rn I'm running wasp with dcs the car a 500kg and anti tank emplacement so I can just use the anti tank emplacement to take out like half the map if I have a nice eno7gh open map then drive back to my team with the car and use the wasp for anti medium stuff and the dcs for anti light snd anti medium and the revolver for hulks I guess and the 500 for any heavy

[muted burrow]

stealth 😌

[trim breach]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/267771759716073472/1325507897819664430/ScreenRecording_01-05-2025_09-53-50_1.mov?ex=677c0aed&is=677ab96d&hm=2681bff9a91ef1b38fa2d86844ea8dc10690ae59c6761f65846f153ddc9f6786&

[cobalt patrol]

I always love when it's sandstorm/blizzard time

Snuck all the way into a cannon base and armed the hellbomb as the sandstorm cleared, that was fun

[oblique storm]

https://youtube.com/shorts/C1UMmIYgonA?si=EvAEzAglj6E4T01_

@keen zinc

[kind cloud]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Helldivers/s/NEdcTAyuRr

"I've come to make an announcement, the illuminate overseers are bitch ass mofo. They pissed all over my supercitizens. That's right, they took out their fucking mind-controlling tendrils out and they pissed on my fucking supercitizens and they that their tendrils were "this big" and I said thats disgusting

So I'm making a call out post on strohmann news dot com: Illuminates, you got them small tendrils, it's the size of this wall nut except way small, and guess what? Here's what my superdong looks like. That's right baby, all points, no slime, no tendrils, look at that it look likes 2 Superballs and a Superbong.

They fucked my supercitizens so guess what? I'm going to fuck their Illuminate Camp. That's right this is what you get, MY SUPER LASER PISS. Except I'm not pissing on the Illuminate Camp. I'M PISSING ON CALLYPSO! HOW YOU LIKE THAT SQUID, I PISSED ON CALLYPSO YOU IDIOT

You have 23 hours before the piss drop-el-ets hit the Illuminate camp, now get out of my fucking sight before i piss on you too."

[oblique storm]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Helldivers/comments/1hukfk5/you_can_cancel_fall_damage_by_perfect_timing_a/

WHAT

[ionic holly]

full of stim

[stone bridge]

I saw a video saying the Torcher was obsoleted by the Flamethrower today...

[supple siren]

The most wrongest statement of all, someone's found it

[honest acorn]

But… didn’t the flamethrower come out first?

What is the balance point between those two anyway?

[supple siren]

Basically ammo capacity, for taking up a whole stratagem slot you'll be reloading slightly less often

Thrower might also shoot farther?

[honest acorn]

Oh is the fire not substantially different?

I haven’t played much lately so I haven’t compared them that well

It seemed like the torcher had better range and handling and more fire time but I assume the flamethrower did more damage

But I’ve only used the torches vs Illuminate and the flamer vs bugs lately

[strange vine]

Flamethrower benefits from ship upgrades for flame weapons, torcher doesnt

So flamethrower has much better DPS

[honest acorn]

Oh yeah that might be significant I do have the hotter fire upgrade

I was surprised how fast the flamer killed spewer bugs now I’m guessing they made them less spongy at some point

[stone bridge]

It's moreso that the Torcher does 40% less direct damage by default, more around 45-50% with the enhanced fire upgrade

But it's also a primary weapon

[honest acorn]

Which seems nice they were sorta absurd

[stone bridge]

Vs a stratagem...which you can take a different strat weapon if you take a torcher....

[honest acorn]

Torcher also means you kinda don’t have shit beyond 20-30 meters on drop but they only matters sometimes

[stone bridge]

it's especially not really relevant into terminids

Oh, it's also notably a primary with heavy armour pen

Which is also cracked

[strange vine]

The flamers have ap4 now when they used to have ap3 meaning theyre now dealing full damage to spewers instead of being cut in half

[honest acorn]

That might be the difference

[stone bridge]

yup

Anyway I run the Torcher on my main bug all-rounder build, it's great

[supple siren]

I forgot the non-support flamers didn't benefit from ship upgrade orz

tragedy

( though they're still very good yes )

[cobalt patrol]

Yeah, point of dedicated flamer is it's massive increase in damage over the torcher etc

[quick plinth]

I wanted to like the Torcher and Crispr but I just can't, the lack of range is too much for me

[stone bridge]

It's not an issue with the right gear into Terminids

[quick plinth]

I mean yeah, you can cover for it's weaknesses, but I prefer having innate range

[unreal merlin]

Torcher/Crisper/flamethrower/sterilizer all have too low a time to kill vs functional range for my tastes

[twin orchid]

Playing some helldivers 2 , difficulty 7 to 10 if you want , major order on Tarsh

[verbal summit]

I really hope silenced weapons come soon or that the plasma accelerator either gets more ammo or more damage or idk better armour penetration or something

It's just so meh rn

[unreal merlin]

Idk who in the universe uses burst fire sniper rifles

My stance on the accelerator is "anyone who tells you it's good is lying"

[blissful sparrow]

Mass Effect Incisor is goated

[odd arch]

it not even being "hyperburst" tickles me

[quick plinth]

give me G11 hyperburst on that thing, or at least fast enough so the target isnt in another country by the time the third shot lands

[verbal summit]

This was peak tho

[blissful sparrow]

tbh in a weird way i think the sniper will get a bit better when squids get more enemy types
Cause having medium sized enemies with personal shields where the tripple burst could break the shield with the first shot and then slam 2 shots into the body under it, maybe Shield -> ablative armor -> head would be really fun
would need better damage for that probably tho

[strange vine]

the sniper needs more damage because its missing 1 burst breakpoints on a lot of medium enemies

[twin orchid]

playing some helldivers 2 in HA hangout , if yall wanna hang out

[sinful briar]

farmed some SC and bought Polar

moderately disappointing how much less SC one get while playing properly

[indigo bear]

Medals too.

[shut bane]

is there anything to do with requisition when you bought everything

[tall stone]

Yes*

Technically we can throw it at the DSS, but that's disabled right now.

[shut bane]

trying to think what they could add to give something to use it on

[shut bane]

yeah i feel it shouldnt be more efficient to play a million trivial missions than anything else

[shut bane]

maybe they could add some like one use powerful consumable stratagems you have to buy again

[tall stone]

Again, the DSS

[indigo bear]

I would love a funny gun that used requisition as ammunition

[supple siren]

Twilight Princess Rupee Armor, the Democracy passive always activates but it costs $5,000

[shut bane]

thats what brasch has

[indigo bear]

Or a damaging emote like the kick that smacks someone with a stack of requisition and actually deducts 1k from your account

[oblique lotus]

I would pay 5000 req a hit to be unkillable

[muted burrow]

zelda magic armor strategem

pads your body with req slips

[cobalt patrol]

Apprently sony's working on a Helldivers 2 movie? Which i'm like eehhh about.

I actually think a helldivers movie could work really well! But i'd lean int othe helldivers are dispsoable. Have the same actors playing a squad of heldlivers, but you never see them out of armor, they get kileld cosntantly. etc. Set it across a mission chain

and enveutally at the end of the movie you pull out to show how futile and pointless everything was, that they've had a tiny impacto n a tiny part of the war that's going on everywhere

thisx being sony and hollywood, i predict we're going toget utter shite that misses the point entirely

[unreal merlin]

looking forward to Starship Troopers 2

[glad marsh]

I think it would be very funny if they titled the film "Helldivers 2"

[glad marsh]

Yeah :(

[cobalt patrol]

it annoys me because i've been rolling around How i'd do it in my head for a bit, and... yeah, ij ust odnt have any faith that it'll actually capture the spirit of the game

becuase i think a well done thing where it's shwon the helldivers are uttelry dipsoable, you get lots of ocnstant friendly fire etc

and as said, the pan out ot show how useless all this expentirue was would be relaly good

[glad marsh]

Hollywood doesn't like not having an action hero, unfortunately

[cobalt patrol]

Exactly.

[glad marsh]

...or in this case, 4

I'd suspect we'd see something like one team of 4 divers as the "main characters" and they just.. never die

If this was a representative movie, we'd get introduced to a bunch of recruits and watch training mulch them 5 minutes in

[cobalt patrol]

That's why i'd do the same actors, same armor, but just have them die and replaced constnatly

[glad marsh]

Mhm

The game already does that, no reason not to make a movie do it

[cobalt patrol]

Keeps costs down, lets you setup "Characters" (you can just call them T3 from <ship name>, etc)

and gets you al ot of humor out of them doing dumb things and paying for it

[glad marsh]

Sony has 2 of the actual game trailers to match the vibes of

And yet
I'm not faithful..

..that it'll go well

[sinful briar]

Helldivers never die!
checks out ✅

[cobalt patrol]

The movie is a fialure if it never includes "Squad lost, deploying new squad" at least twice.

at least once because of a hellbomb too

[quick plinth]

Helldivers would be a lot more fit for an animated show maybe

where at the end of each episode the squad is all dead, and has been replaced

each episode following a different squad, or even just individual diver, and showing just how shit SE is

[glad marsh]

You could feasibly follow one ship through each difficulty, I think

I think they should maybe be allowed to have a recurring diver or two, at least on the lower diffs (1-4?)

A hard carry deus ex machina diver who gets left behind is something I think may actually show up in the movie

[oblique lotus]

A comedy would be pretty good

[glad marsh]

Action comedy is absolutely what they should be going for

[tall stone]

James Gunn Suicide Squad is the right vibe

[trail creek]

What if it’s John helldiver and that one general?

[verbal summit]

It could follow 1 divers. Similar to something like edverunenrs where the characters around them die easily (fellow divers). A movie is only like 2 hours at maximum im going with 1.5 or something. A mission is 40 minutes they can easily make it about just 1 mission and the character that's followed on a deeper level can die near the end or in the end or maybe before if they could do it right. They could even cut away to different scenes from before being deployed like how the characters life was before the military to show how corrupt super earth is

Something something guy working minimum wage or some shit job cus super earth bad forced into military or something through either some event or just cus no other way out anymore, goes in training as well with fellow divers n shows more different sides of corruption n maybe also the fools who'd willingly become helldivers and then the first mission and the reality of thr war that everyone dies all the time and the main character then maybe survives longer than most cus yeah. Then have the stuff from before the mission as bits between bits from the mission so it goes mission->before mission stuff->mission n so on.

Or follow like 2-5 characters who get deployed throughout the mission and all have different stories.

Like 1 of em at the start of the mission along with some other divers and then that character dies and the other character with a story is deployed or something like that so it stays more realistic with characters dying off fast but still manages to follow a story of a character.

Really each of those character would only be alive in the mission for what? 7 minutes more or less which doesn't seem unrealistic.

[shut bane]

like that one heavy metal animation where whoever kills the protagonist takes over as the new focus, but with like different helldiver squads transporting an SSD or something, interesting.

[verbal summit]

Oh huh I guess that is what I tried to describe yeah

S9mething like that

[shut bane]

not heavy metal i was thinking of aeon flux

[idle hollow]

cutting it close

[strange vine]

We're fine lol

[idle hollow]

Yeah I saw

I wouldn’t have hopped off if not

[indigo bear]

What's the cadence to Warbond releases? 2 months?

[burnt vapor]

Roughly yeah

[cobalt patrol]

Yeah, I wouldn't expect a new one till next month or so

[forest crater]

Y'all, I finally got enough sc to buy a warbond, which one do y'all recommend buying?

[shut bane]

i got democratic detonation first i felt the thermite giving me guaranteed antitank on my person even with no stratagems gave me a lot more build freedom to bring whatever , and i liked the faceguard heavy armor. but none are bad

[forest crater]

I don't need any new primaries for sure, the Scorcher is do me just fine

[quick plinth]

I want more weapons in warbonds again

[forest crater]

Siege-ready is good...too bad it doesn't have a medium Armor equivalent

[quick plinth]

not even like an SC store one which is usually how they make it cover all three weight classes

[stone bridge]

Democratic Detonation for sure, it opens up the most build options

[forest crater]

Eh, the only thing I'd probably consider from that is the thermite

Like I mentioned, I don't need any primaries because I'm already running the Scorcher and probably will for a very long time unless its magazine gets nerfed

[shut bane]

well then urban legends, its one of the like, 2 that give new stratagems? its probably what im getting next

[supple siren]

I will say primaries tend to be an important factor for the bonds, but they're not always about it

Just feels limiting to write every one off

Not going to recommend a Warbond for Shock Resistance Armor but the purifier hell yes

[forest crater]

How good is the Loyalist from Truth Enforcers?

[supple siren]

Quite good! Like a pocket purifier, half the mag, still very good damage

[forest crater]

I already have Cutting Edge, almost exclusively because of the Sickle lol

[supple siren]

Charged shots remarkably don't cost extra ammo

forgot the sickle was also in there

[forest crater]

Hm....

[supple siren]

Basically the only issue with the Loyalist is it doesn't blow up bugholes

[forest crater]

I don't know if it would warrant replacing the Senator...

[supple siren]

It's better into crowds for sure, less headshotty

I bring Senator for bots and Loyalist for Squids, usually

[forest crater]

If I did I couldn't reliably launch using the puffs

[supple siren]

Can't you just smack em

[forest crater]

....I didn't know you could

I thought you had to shoot em

[supple siren]

I'm not 100% certain but believe it still might

[forest crater]

I'll try it out later

I've been using the Senator to set them off and launch me

Since the Scorcher has AOE and Sickle has charge up

I really do wish armor coloring was a thing

Because I love the Killzone cape everyone got but not much goes with it....

[quick plinth]

Grenade pistol lets you run more utility grenades

[forest crater]

Ohhh yeah that is true

[oblique lotus]

it also gives you a lot of shots for bug holes

1 in the tube, 6 in reserve and you can resupply from ammo drops instead of grenade ones

[cobalt patrol]

Purifier is a Better Scorcher imho

Anyway, notable stuff:

Gas grenades
Stun grenades
Purifier
Explosive Crossbow
Eruptor
AT Emplacement
Torcher & Crisper
Thermites (If you dont carry AT as your support)
Grenade Pistol
Halt (If you really like stunning things with a primary)
Senator
Verdict

That's all off the top of my head

Purifier/Verdict are in the same warbond, and it also has Incn. Impacts, which are pretty decent as a grenade type

[royal lantern]

Gas Grenades are really shockingly good

Though honestly the Senator feels so far ahead of the other options in slot that I think it makes Steeled Vets really appealing in itself

The Dominator is also a really good primary but probably just sort of exists in parallel to the scorcher

[unreal merlin]

Very. Serves a similar function to stun grenades but will actually kill chaff while still disorienting bigger stuff

Won't stop hulks and chargers (usually) but at that point you should have a real AT option to use

[quick plinth]

theres something I really want now come to think of it

a huge ass chain shotgun on an exo

I wonder if / when they implement vic customization they'll make it so that the Emancipator exosuit would just be "autocannon upgrade" unlock kinda thing

[short rune]

I would really love some vehicle and support weapon customisation.

[tropic isle]

Apparently saluting the flag during raise flag missions makes it go faster

[unreal merlin]

If you're not shooting, be saluting

[short rune]

So many civilians arrested. ;-;

[fringe quiver]

<@&1206091872716595200>

[tight zephyr]

???

[fringe quiver]

If your account was inactive when they gave away the free KZ collaboration items you didn't get them

The inactive time frame was like 2 months without playing

[forest crater]

Yeah my cousin didn't get them lol

Cuz he had deleted the game a while ago and recently got it back bc of illuminate and stuff

[forest crater]

Scorcher is an automatic weapon which, as a console player who's not the best at aiming, works better than a weapon with precision in mind

(i say, having contemplated using the Accelerator when it came out)

[cobalt patrol]

You can rapid fire the Purifier? I wouldn't call it a precision weapon at all

[strange vine]

purifier rapid fire is awkward and it only has 8 shots, scorcher has 20

[forest crater]

You can? I thought the charge up prevented that

Or at least hindered it a lot

[strange vine]

nah just tap fire

you can tap fire really fast lol

[forest crater]

Ah

I keep the Scorcher on full auto

[cobalt patrol]

It can still rapid fire, and it's excellent for burning down targets. I find it superior to the scorcher because you can pace with hcarge shots (and the aoe potential), or burn when you need to

[strange vine]

ehhhhhhh

tap firing is a waste of damage potential

its basically there to give you some more flexibility

[cobalt patrol]

tap firing is still useful when you need to burn a target now

potential damage matters a lot less than "Target is fucking dead", whcih is what tap firing does to hulks/tanks etc

[glad marsh]

I will say, I am a little tired of being pressured into using the purifier when I just... Don't want to
"It's optimal" they tell me
"It's purely better" they say

And yet I do not find it nearly as comfortable to use as the scorcher

[fringe quiver]

That's me with the railgun

I do not like the unsafe charging minigame

[keen zinc]

i dont like guns that fire on trigger release

[high epoch]

Whatever feels good to use is best. If what you use is what you perform optimally best with use it.

Especially if you have tried said weapons. People's play styles are different and different weapons fit said playstyle depending the situation you find yourself in.

[fringe quiver]

...I like the throwing knife

[strange vine]

just ignore penguin and just use the scorcher, its fun and effective enough

[oblique lotus]

Praise blitzer

[fringe quiver]

I am mixed on blitzer

I like it and don't like it at same time

[cobalt patrol]

Using a weapon you find more comfortable is always optimal

[odd arch]

I find all the plasma guns immensely boring which is weird because usually I love charge ups and single big shots

but they just don't got that juice in some way

[honest acorn]

They sound so wimpy

[forest crater]

The fact it's a plasma weapon and not a standard ballistic gun is just a bonus to me. I took it up because it's pretty decent at both crowd control and clearing medium-armor targets

[hazy oriole]

are they still free or just in the shop now

[fringe quiver]

Page 1 items were never free

They were 1000 SC

I think there's some talks they'll be back for rotation at at a later date

The Page 2 items were originally going to be for 1000 the following week after the page 1 items

But instead they gave them out to all active accounts

If your account was marked as inactive (cause not playing for a few months) you didn't get the items

This is them coming back around and doing another distribution

For the page 2 items

[hazy oriole]

yeah that's what i was wondering about
if the second wave of page 2s was still free

[fringe quiver]

Ye this distribution will be free too

Past this not sure (might work as a reward you get upon login from now on but idk)

[burnt vapor]

Wasn’t closer to 1600?

[fringe quiver]

Uhhhhh

Yes actually now that I double check, looks like was closer to ~1600

[honest acorn]

https://x.com/helldivers_now/status/1877024744362397883?s=46&t=RjdIzh2qFuWkjovzBmgCsQ

Helldivers NOW (@Helldivers_NOW) on X

#HelldiversTwo

Oh My God bro 💀

Twitter · Jan 8, 2025, 4:09 PM

[tight zephyr]

I’m going to set myself on fire.

[honest acorn]

Common enough Helldivers occurrence

[tall stone]

Lose Chris Pratt and I am down

[shut bane]

imagine if its a bunch of a listers but they die less than a minute in

[tall stone]

James Gunn Suicide Squad energy

[agile fable]

no no no. they die a few minutes in. you advertise that they're gonna be in, have everyone think they'll be the heroes, THEN when the movie gets released its revealed they die fast

[quick plinth]

it's a move too bold for mainstream media

[oblique lotus]

This is fake right?

Right?

[rustic portal]

no. real leaks straight from the sony lot

(the only thing we know about the movie is that its in production)

itll be really funny if its a retelling of HD1 and Super Earth gets blown up 30 times

[hazy oriole]

A Ministry Of Truth Approved History of Super Earth:

Super Earth has never, ever been defeated.

cut to montage of lost wars

[forest crater]

I genuinely hope they have a moment where one of the actors gets killed, only for a new diver to drop in that coincidentally looks and sounds just like the original diver. And they never comment on it

[blissful sparrow]

They killed kenny moments every 5 minutes

[wind arrow]

https://x.com/Helldivers_NOW/status/1876879448882188530

Helldivers NOW (@Helldivers_NOW) on X

#Helldivers

Mod Showcase | Yippee Bugs by lololy100

Makes the little bugs say ''Yippeeee'

Mod Description:

This mod is very simple, it makes Scavengers, Bile Spitters and Pouncers say 'Yippee' every now and then. They are just very happy to see you!

⚠️Use Mods at Your Own

Twitter · Jan 8, 2025, 6:31 AM

[blissful sparrow]

now i want halo party grunt scavengers

[forest crater]

So...do the majority of urban PoIs have nothing in them and just say they do for whatever reason or am I just not finding the things?

Mainly the ones with the two weapons(EAT and Machine gun usually)

[tall stone]

There's usually one or two common samples nearby.

But yeah, Urban POIs are generally blurgh

[forest crater]

Great

The fact it says there's something valuable still there despite there being nothing is very annoying

[supple siren]

It's a trade off for having four SEAF SAM sites per mile

[cobalt patrol]

Generally the way urban pois work is a: They're never quite at where the map shows intialyl,f or whatever reason.

They often cotnain a ton of ammo, med kits, and support weapons, whcih is very useful.

Generally have samples too

And then you get crashed drop pods which have the usual lootg, and bunkers which also have some usual loot

[muted burrow]

the drop pods are nice and easy to spot in them too

[ionic holly]

Oh hey i just got the other killzone stuff i thought i missed, did they relaunch em out or something?

[stone bridge]

yup

[ionic holly]

Rad

[vestal trail]

What're people's thoughts on the Dog Breath? I've been running it on Bug 7+ to try and suss out its value and my general take is "This dog don't hunt." Just doesn't seem to do anything of particular value or note so far.

[supple siren]

Dog Breath just needs a little AI adjustment, make it spray crowds instead of trying to focus down one target.. but idk if the bots are coded for that

[cobalt patrol]

Same as AIM, it's got too many AI issues to be worht. If it flew out, sprayed a targe,t and moved on, it'd be great, but it uses the same drone ai as everything else, so it just... focuses one target till it's deazd

which is a terrible think for a CC weapon with very low damage to be doing

[vestal trail]

So ironically I have noticed it does leave me and lightly crop dust multiple targets by target swapping sometimes, but its attached gas effect doesn't seem to last long enough to even matter in that respect, and it'll still sometimes hard focus and try to chase something

[unkempt river]

<@&1206091872716595200> any party people out there?

[oblique hazel]

perhaps in like 30 min or so?

[cobalt patrol]

I can DIVE DIVE DIVE

Lemme finish up in Poe2

[unkempt river]

[cobalt patrol]

We squidding, botitng, or what?

[unkempt river]

🤷

I figure we'll take a vote?

[oblique hazel]

I would prefer bots if y'all don't fill up in the next 15 minutes

[quick plinth]

wizard said he'll cede his spot once you get here

[oblique hazel]

oh he can keep it! I really should be going to sleep lol

I didn't realize y'all already had 3

[cobalt patrol]

You called the spot earlier, sop... up to you cheese

[oblique hazel]

y'all go on ahead, if someone drops out while I'm, still awake I may hop in

[sage plume]

go ahead and join, as stated ill cede the spot when ya join. it early morning for me so no big deal

[oblique hazel]

oki! well I'll be on in 10-15 or so

[steady flame]

You all got a 4-stack and some spectators, 2x 3-stacks, what's up?

[quick plinth]

4stack some people waiting to rotate in and spectators

[cobalt patrol]

You done @unkempt river ?

[unkempt river]

yeah, not enough attention span rn

Sorry :/

[cobalt patrol]

all good

[idle hollow]

finally got my alpha commander armour

[shut bane]

its very cool i am bugged it isnt the same green as my master chief helmet tho

tho the tan pads go well with that tan hooded head

[keen zinc]

goes well with the cutting edge walter helmet

[tardy onyx]

Yay, everone can get the not halo armor now.

[strange vine]

automatons heroically rescuing their surrounded comrades in a daring breakthrough operation

[sinful briar]

how long til?

or is it gifted for everyone without having to claim it?

[quick plinth]

should be the latter

[quick plinth]

on steam it's was / maybe still is a free DLC you can claim

[quick plinth]

just solo stealthed a bunker mission

makes me wish for subsonic supressed weapons even more now

[muted burrow]

speaking of bunkers (the loot ones), i wish we got a lil strategem near them when playing solo that calls down one of those helldiver cutouts to press the button

[quick plinth]

clear influence from soviet posters, but a lot more early constructivisim in them, rather than the standard socialist realism

[keen zinc]

gotta keep the troopers morale up with posters

[toxic socket]

good graphic design wins waRS!

[burnt vapor]

my 500kg bomb would dispute that last statement

[oblique hazel]

Genuine Explodium

[sage plume]

wait so does this imply that the bots are Swedish?

as that would be kinda funny

[quick plinth]

what's more likely is that the script was made internally for the Swedish dev team

[royal lantern]

Super Earth is also Swedish

[idle hollow]

Bug major order...

https://tenor.com/view/italy-old-man-soup-rain-old-man-eating-soup-gif-19570874

[shut bane]

I hate bugs ( in helldivers )

[hexed steeple]

termintide

[indigo bear]

It's so hard to get my bug legs back after stomping bots for a while

[fringe quiver]

I recently found out how good the orbital railcannon is against bugs

Also

The patrols are not broken for me anymore

So now it's one big fight every 15 min instead of getting swarmed every 2 minutes from breaches

[muted burrow]

hooray

[verbal summit]

I've found a bug loadout for the first time ever.

It's just jetpack with flame thrower torches and crisper

I like the amr and wasp but on bugs the amr doesn't work as well cus the heavies don't have glaring weakspots like the bots do and the wasp does work I just haven't used it.

[supple siren]

That seems like perhaps an excess of flame but does seem fun

[verbal summit]

I've come to like it

Otherwise I'd run tenderiser, senator and wasp probably

[stone bridge]

Yeah I think that's overkill

[indigo bear]

The Firefly build

[stone bridge]

Why not run tenderizer/senator/Flamethrower?

[trail nymph]

<@&1206091872716595200> who's up for some dives?

[trail nymph]

2 more slots for diving

[shut bane]

grand errant and pherkad secundus

the flame tornados are new to me

[fringe quiver]

dang

don't think I can make it

[ionic holly]

speed run /j

[cobalt patrol]

Dear randos: Please, please do not napalm barrage the freaking flag point

[fringe quiver]

eagle napalm

or orbital napalm?

[cobalt patrol]

Orbital napalm.

repeteadly.

Right ontop of where the fight ws happening

[ionic holly]

Oh god

and is it dead on? not even trying to long arm it to min-safe?

[verbal summit]

More flame, never out of flame

[quick plinth]

an PO specifically for me

[fringe quiver]

rip

[fringe quiver]

honestly I love using the spear

the lockon so gud

[verbal summit]

I'd like if the spear got something more. Rn it feels little meh

[quick plinth]

honestly I just feel like they should make it oneshot whatever it's aimed at

since ur only targeting heavies, buildings and sometimes gunships

maybe not the fac. strider

[glad marsh]

They do not know the secret technique...

[cobalt patrol]

Literally the beacon was coming out of the flag

[ionic holly]

good lord

[fringe quiver]

what's that? I always throw it ~50m away and usually it's fine

[sinful briar]

a little stabby stab!

[trail nymph]

<@&1206091872716595200> Anyone up for some late night democracy?

[oblique hazel]

I can in a little a while

[glad marsh]

That's the secret technique :3

[ripe iron]

the secret technique of YEET

[glad marsh]

Real talk, being able to accurately throw stratagem balls pretty is such a nice skill to have

[tight zephyr]

We still looking for Divers?

[cobalt patrol]

I have spent long times getting very good at my diving throws with strats

[muted burrow]

tfw you find a radar station but it's straight up bugged

😔

no goodies :(

[versed hamlet]

one time I was in a group that did a radar that revealed a whopping 1 PoI on the entire map (due to map shape limiting spawn points and other objectives needing to be placed)
was very funny

[cobalt patrol]

Never seen that before! Bile spewwer killed a bug hole with it's artillery

So many samples

if oinly they did something

[versed hamlet]

😔 imagine if you could donate it to the poor souls who don't have the basics yet
🤔 the progressive curve on helldivers is still, so whack, even ignoring sc as a currency that exists

[cobalt patrol]

Hoenstly, i dotn feel like i can have a useufl opinon there

sicne i've been playing since launch

and climb up myself

[fringe quiver]

IMO depends on how you look at progression

[cobalt patrol]

It's somethign supposed to take your time though. The onyl thing i really dislike are the upgradses that need exactly 250 rares (The cap on rares)

[fringe quiver]

for me I'd say how much does it take to comfortably be able to solo diff 6

[cobalt patrol]

since that can create real feel bad moments

Otherwise, my arttidue to a level 30 in a diff 10 is 'I will get this young lad all the samples"

[fringe quiver]

Sample collection is a bit odd to me out of everything

but I think it depends on the avg player

[blissful sparrow]

i miss HD1 Campaign Chain unlocking of strategems 😔

[fringe quiver]

super rare samples you only get from the egg rock and unless you know it's the only place it spawns you might be a bit confused until you reliably get the lidar station a few times and realize it from that (since you'd traverse the map after you get the lidar station)

but once you do, rare samples become the painful sample to get

due to how you get them less than common samples, and you're more likely not to get the cap of rare samples per missions, while super rare samples you're more likely to get the cap

so you might only get 7 rare samples but you find the egg rock and get all 3 of the super samples or w/e

but outside of that

for warbonds, the two biggest bumps that make them easier (IMO) vs the factions

is the warbond that gives you the punisher plasma (lets you take down most medium enemy automatons with ease), and the grenade pistol (makes it easier to get objs done with bugs)

given that, the grenade pistol makes a smaller impact on faction fighting potential

so progression, assuming no free 1000 sc to boot, would likely mean
bugs are easiest for awhile, then if you decide to try to build for automaton, they become easier with the punisher plasma.

this is mainly cause using strategems for bugs is a bit easier IMO than automatons but I'll admit I'd be curious to know if there's an equivalent strategem to the orbital railcannon (since that's so good against bugs for me)

but then again this is talking like

current state of the game

[blissful sparrow]

Autocannon. It solved Bots for me well into diff 8

[fringe quiver]

and like

yeah I was gonna say, I'm not referring to MP play and more solo play, where things like autocannon become much much stronger

also tbf incendiary breaker being buffed/nerfed throughout the game's lifecycle too

cause I'd say outside the first 2 months, the breaker probably made bugs a bit too easy

I'd see them nerfing/adjusting a few guns next but Idk

also adding in the new armor passives

but IMO armor is secondary to progression cause I was using scout armor fine for a long time

But ye right now for me, biggest progression gates are super credits and rare samples

[blissful sparrow]

on the topic of napalm barrage and flag raising earlier:
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA

[muted burrow]

😭

oh i missed the ping toggle, sorry

on the topic of progression, my modules are mostly level 2 or 3, with the level 5 global 5% cd reduction unlocked

everything i don't have feels like a nice lil boost to get, but not necessary

imo it's fun to have samples dotting pois as a consolation prize for when you just find requisition slips, or grabbing them in a panic while you're fleeing a completed base! but if they felt more necessary I'd probably get sick of hunting for them

[versed hamlet]

there's some silly impactful ones like how 500kg gets double uses or reloading all of a support weapon on a single resupply

[versed hamlet]

me who has never used the punisher plasma

I think thermite was the biggest jump for me with just "heavy, begone"
but I also use nade pistol

[unreal merlin]

grenade pistol is the biggest utility for me since that's my anti-spawner tool (nests/assemblers/ships) if I'm not using my crossbow

[versed hamlet]

yeah the thing is
crossbow, nade pistol, and thermite are all in the same warbond
it has a monopoly on booms

[unreal merlin]

I don't really like thermites because they cook for too long (too low TTK)

I recognize the utility of them but for everything they're useful against I would rather and could use a different tool instead.

[versed hamlet]

yeah fair
my loadouts tend to be more focused on killing the medium-heavies or chaff really quickly and thermites kill the super heavies (tanks, strider, impaler, bile) that get too close

oh and thermiting the tactical mortars 🤔

I usually 500kg 2 of them and mop up the final one with thermite

[unreal merlin]

My prefered 'nade is gas, since it fills a similar "buy time" role to stuns but also just outright kills lesser enemies.

[versed hamlet]

what do you use to kill heavies? like, support weapon or red strat

I use the aforementioned thermite but also the AT emplacement which is green I guess

[unreal merlin]

Recoilless Rifle (if nobody else has that covered), Railgun, AT Emplacement, Orbital Precision sometimes.

[versed hamlet]

ah hm
I'm a railgun enjoyer vs bots but shooting super heavies with it takes eons lol

idk if there's a good word for the tiers of things

[unreal merlin]

Depends what front we're fighting on honestly

• bugs: recoilless rifle or quasar
• bots: railgun or AT/E (sometimes both)
• squids: AMR

[oblique lotus]

GP is good because it lets you have objective destruction in a slot that usually can't

[twin orchid]

anyone wanna play helldivers 2 ?

[wind arrow]

https://fixupx.com/Helldiversmedia/status/1878271987761721613

[oblique lotus]

Bugs: Commando, stun+OPS, 500kg
Bots: Commando/laser cannon, eagle rockets, 500kg
Illuminate: Honestly whatever you want, preference for laser cannon

eagle rockets are really good against tanks and I prefer the commando over EATs since I can carry the whole drop with me

but I usually bring support weapons and one or more antitank stratagems both because cluster usually does all the chaff clear I need but also because running out of antitank sucks a lot more than running out of chaff clear

I can't stand how slow thermites are but they're good for busting objectives since my ability to hit fab vents with the GP isn't consistent day to day

I like disposables and strikes because in the event that I die I can't spiral because tools aren't available

A RR offers really good AT coverage but if it's on the ground it's not doing anything

[trim breach]

For me, it's

Bugs: RR, Commando or EAT, Thermite Grenades, Eagle Rockets, Railcannon

Bots: RR, Commando, Autocannon, HMG.

Illuminate: MMG, HMG, Commando, Quasar, Laser Cannon

[stone bridge]

For me it's

Bots: Autocannon
Bugs: Autocannon
Illuminate: Autocannon

[trim breach]

For whatever reason I just can't fuck with Autocannon vs bugs or squids

Doesn't work fast enough against chargers or bile titans

And I'll be goddamned if I can consistently pull of headshots on overseers, or joint shots on harvesters.

[stone bridge]

autocannon works fine vs chargers

just pop the butt

[oblique lotus]

I don't like having to stand still to reload and if I'm going to have medium pen I may as well use the laser

plus EATs/commando are a very quick one/twoshot against bug heavies

[blissful sparrow]

classic charger tactic with autocannon is to just take a calm knee to reload it while the charger runs past and your friends panic, and then whip around and unload 5 rounds full auto into its butr

[stone bridge]

and far less flexible into swarms/mediums

AC can one tap alpha commanders in particular with HEAP ammo, which are incredibly dangerous

[oblique lotus]

blitzer does the same and is a primary

also against swarms I have eagle cluster

[stone bridge]

no it doesn't?

[oblique lotus]

blitzer will oneshot headshot commanders

[stone bridge]

alphas it will not

and thats if you get the headshot

which is distinctly unreliable

[oblique lotus]

oh wait alphad

it will three shot alphas and the headshot is pretty reliable

plus cluster turns the swarm into mush anyway

err wait hold on

5 arcs, each arc does 35*0.7+50x0.3= 39.5 damage, full damage because alphas are AV2, head has 250 hp, so two shots

[stone bridge]

blitzer headshot is reliable if you shove it in their face and it's the only thing around, sure?

[oblique lotus]

anyway, between blitzer and cluster runs alphas and swarms are not a huge issue

[stone bridge]

like dude I know you're the no.1 blitzer fan but it is not the ultimate weapon at all

[oblique lotus]

against bugs I am entirely convinced it is the ultimate primary

the only issues it has are shriekers and heavy armor

fighting shriekers really sucks I won't lie

[stone bridge]

then we don't really have anything to discuss

[oblique lotus]

like, yes if you want a generalist support weapon then yeah the autocannon is a very good generalist weapon

I'm not disagreeing

but I think bugs particularly give room for and reward specialization

[stone bridge]

fair enough

[oblique lotus]

I didn't know about the oneshot alpha thing, that's actually pretty sweet

[shy prairie]

i'll second blitzer headshots being pretty reliable

[oblique lotus]

what's AC stk on BTs?

[stone bridge]

Titans are the only thing it can't really engage effectively, it can headshot them but it'll take a magazine and a bit iirc

i just bring stratagems or least teammates deal with them

[stone bridge]

you basically need to aim down and center - the commander's head is actually not all its headshot hitbox

the crest counts as a distinct body part

[oblique lotus]

I'm coming around on eagle strafe but against squids

they actually form lines away from you so strafe hits the whole group

[stone bridge]

oh strafe is one of the best strats in the game

[oblique lotus]

running strafe+cluster gives pretty good orthogonal/parallel coverage

[stone bridge]

i take it into everything

[oblique lotus]

for me bots and bugs tend to spread out in a way that favors cluster

plus the larger AoE etc etc

but strafe has some really absurd damage stats iirc

yeah strafe is ap5 for some reason

[stone bridge]

bugs tend to come at you in columns i find, and strafe can damage BTs/Fabricators/Tanks/Hulks etc.

It actually kills tanks in one go if you hit them head on, fabs the same

[oblique lotus]

yeah its pretty solid against bots

bugs I usually huck a cluster at a patrol and regardless of orientation the AoE gets them

since cluster has a bigger area

500kg post buff is a really great flex pick imo

one stop "fuck this shit" callin

also weirdly survivable at short range

[stone bridge]

yeah it's real good

[cobalt patrol]

Find and replace Autocannon with RR

Honestly briars real solution for Biles is just mark them. Then a rocket comes from off screen somewhere and headshots them

True facts.

[unreal merlin]

Having that one regular teammate who's on point with the RR really is the solution to all your AT needs

• bug breach initiated
• see bile titan crawl out
• "BT on breach"
• its head mysteriously explodes

[kind cloud]

God I love orbital Bombardment, Napalm, 380, 120 and Orbital Laser

https://tenor.com/view/absolute-cinema-girls-frontline-2-gfl2-gfl-cheeta-gif-14375650876355304884

[cobalt patrol]

It's part of why I love being the RR guy, just watching team mate reactions when heavies keep suffering mysterious accidents

[stark ether]

right?

if you get good enough with it your team thinks they're killing them

[versed hamlet]

yeah I was asking salad what they used instead to the point where they didn't feel the need for thermites due to other more preferable tools
(also please don't reply ping me)

[unreal merlin]

I get crazy usage from the crossbow in both bugs/bots (squid overseers move in frustrating ways to dodge bolts so I just use a liberator)

• crowd clear (scavengers, hunters, raiders, etc)
• anti medium (guards, commanders, devastators)
• emergency anti heavy (weak spots on chargers, titans, hulks, tanks, turrets)
• spawner destruction from afar (nests, assemblers)

Pair with a dagger for efficient precision secondary, then support of choice (RR or railgun usually)

Sniping bot assemblers from 100m away with it is very satisfying

[strange vine]

honestly i kind of liked the implicit storytelling of the squid raids becoming routine
the initial calypso raid was shocking, scary, and out of the blue and sent Super Earth into a panic
but weeks later it has faded into the general background noise of the constant war super earth uses to oppress its citizens

[spare verge]

"the helldivers will save you!" and the helldivers have gotten bored and left because for some reason we let the helldivers deploy wherever they want

I like that bit too; "we should have the ground troops make decisions because they're the only ones that know what it's like" taken to its logical conclusion

[unreal merlin]

meanwhile me looking at the https://helldiverscompanion.com/#map and thinking "man this planet defense is unwinnable in time, if only we could herd the masses to Gar Haren and then Bore Rock to quickly focus down these weak links" and lamenting how it's impossible to coordinate any sort of strategy with the mindless zerg

[tired crystal]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/108686075781726208/1328446439788904682/i-met-the-legend-v0-qq9iy6a60tce1.png?ex=6786bba8&is=67856a28&hm=ad9f80da41f00ec529ee3bde547d28f3f686458993a71906308ebdcb043e9300&

[unreal merlin]

it's him

[ionic holly]

There is something immensely satisfying about swapping ammo types with the halt

[sinful briar]

huh

wasn't bugs, like, way harder before?

with the charger spam

done a couple lvl10 bugs and it was surprisingly manageable