Helldivers 2: For Managed Democracy!

[blissful sparrow]

i am liking scythe into voteless hordes. its very comfortable to mow them down at head level

[agile fable]

that's just real

[verbal summit]

Is it back?

[graceful bluff]

not yet

[verbal summit]

I'll be on holiday soon

I was hoping to be able to use it again soon

[ionic holly]

Ah screw it im coming back, cant just throw helghast gear in there and expect me to not bother

[high epoch]

https://tenor.com/view/jetstream-sam-clap-fireworks-cheer-gif-23094976

[cerulean sluice]

blob see new thing

neuron activation

[verbal summit]

Too bad I'm gonna be gone by the time they give us back the wasp launcher but idk someone ping me when it comes back :3 I wanna get the secondhand enjoyment of yall being able to use it I guess.

[idle hollow]

so

where do you guys guess they'll go next

i think they're after achird iii, then turing, and then meridia

[keen zinc]

is the scythe 100m zero supposed to look like this

[quick plinth]

probably not

[keen zinc]

<@&1206091872716595200> freedom aint free the tree of liberty gotta be watered with the blood of patriots

[high epoch]

https://tenor.com/view/tf2-soldier-heavy-any-second-now-gif-12465896910554458717

[tight zephyr]

I like this new SMG.

[keen zinc]

really hope they fix this

[high epoch]

me waiting for the cuddle-fishes to show back up and do some blackhole shennigans.

[burnt vapor]

I concur it feels very nice

[terse marsh]

Idk if this is a hot take but the new sniper desperately needs an ammo buff

[uncut hatch]

its pretty bad

[strange vine]

it just needs damage buff

right now its missing 1 burst thresholds

[terse marsh]

It does drop devastators in 2 bursts and tears apart chicken walkers

[strange vine]

its killing a lot of mediums with the 4th or 5th shot

[terse marsh]

But it only has 3 bursts in a magazine

[uncut hatch]

i just want the mag to be bigger

[quick plinth]

so they should buff the damage so it consistently kills mediums in 3 rounds I guess

[uncut hatch]

3 rounds or 3 bursts?

[terse marsh]

Honestly they should add a semi auto mode and give it an extra 3-4 magazines and it would be on an equal field to the eruptor and the counter sniper in terms of long range primary weapons

Then again I have no idea what the meta is, I just recently found out how fun it is running automaton missions with light armor, the counter sniper and auto cannon

Setting up on a hill overlooking an automaton patrol and killing all of the troopers with 1 body shot each, then killing the devastators with 1 headshot each, and autocannon for walkers and hulks is my absolute favorite playstyle. Trying to do the same thing with the PLAS-39 Accelerator was genuinely painful bc I kept running out of ammo multiple times.

https://tenor.com/view/sniper-tf2-sniper-tf2-meet-the-sniper-team-fortress2-gif-23137486

[cerulean sluice]

the new rifle honestly NEEDS 3-round burst, simply as a sweet spot between semi auto and burning through its mag in 3 seconds

[strange vine]

if they make the mag size bigger theyll have to change the magazine model

if you notice every time you fire a burst one of the blue plasma cylinders goes dark

[keen zinc]

ez

double it

two shots makes one go dark

double it and give to the next guy

[tight zephyr]

The new SMG synergizes well with the new urban armor.

[ionic holly]

Im looking forward to trying out the helghast AR myself

[daring monolith]

The burst sniper is very fun. Loving it into bots and illuminate

[high epoch]

i rate it highly for fighting illuminate. given it has the same quirks as any rifle does rn.

tho i do wish i could single-shot it.

but also it's viable cause for illuminate cause usually you find ammo in the city easily or the occasionaly resupply but its something you must make your shots count with in the head if you can.

tho i would guess with new ammo reserve expanding armor. it can fight against that.

[oblique hazel]

huh

apparently you can survive the railgun exploding on you in non explosive resist heavy armor now

[mortal wing]

I recently got back into the game and - oh look at all those warbonds I don't have weapons and options from

Doesn't feel good.

[trail nymph]

Looks like you need to start farming for credits

[unreal merlin]

It's fine for people who have been keeping up with it, but yeah getting into Helldivers now would feel like a huge content wall.

[verbal summit]

Yeah

Also I want my wasp launcher!!!!!!

I only have 1 day waahhh

I wonder if they're taking this time to make some changes

[short rune]

I hope they release another general warbond next year

Like Helldivers mobilize

[verbal summit]

Yes

Or release a mix large warbond mixing things from all the warbonds together in 1

[short rune]

Hmm?

Like a way to get premium warbond stuff without SC?

[verbal summit]

Well rn we have a bunch of weapons that newcomers don't have. Release a big warbond for 1000 or 1500 SC with weapons and armours and things from all warbonds. So it doesn't have all of it but it has some of it.

For newcomers to have a nice way of getting general gear. Cus rn I feel like making a new BIG warbond is just gonna have more niche gear or weapons cus we already have a lot of weapons that just exist.

Or start adding weapons to the superstore but make them cost samples so people can still get current weapons

[short rune]

I mean, the General gear is good too. And if they didn't change SC drops they should be able to unlock a premium warbond before they have the means to get enough medals

[verbal summit]

I guess so

I tend to run more "extreme" gear. Don't like ARs that much. I'll run something like crossbow or eruptor or shotguns or plasma punisher.

[short rune]

They also overhaul the super store so you have no more issues with Fomo

[verbal summit]

Well if it actually deals with fomo

Could be they just reduce the fomo

[short rune]

Last thing I heard was that they remove the timer entirely

[verbal summit]

Ill see when I see I guess.

[short rune]

Fair enough

But yeah, granted. The General warbond has more... conventional gear

[verbal summit]

Guh I wish they kept the wasp launcher for 2 more days!!!!! I won't be able to play for like a week and now I can't play the wasp launcher which I actually loved

[short rune]

Didn't get to test it either but I heard its confusing to use

[verbal summit]

Idk

Seems simple to me

I like it as a replacement for the role I use the AMR for which is primarily anti medium but capable of anti heavy.

Cus it's got 7 "shots" and 5 "mags" and it 1shots every medium unit

The AMR has 7 shots and 7 mags I think

[short rune]

I personally don't quite understand how the AMR ended up in that niche.

But I get what you mean.

[verbal summit]

Headshotting devastators and overseers

Can take out anything from afar. 2 shot to the eye of a hulk. 4 shots to a harvester leg.

[short rune]

Yeah, but then it's more about taking out priority targets from a bit of distance. On the bot front people used it point blank

[verbal summit]

Well I also use it point blank yeah if necessary

[short rune]

A shame we cant just swap out scopes and such.

[verbal summit]

A shame amr scopes only go up to 200m

[short rune]

Hmm.

It was a simple crosshair scope. Yes?

Without like incremental distance lines

[verbal summit]

Idk yeah? Idk what you mean by that cus idk that much about scopes

[short rune]

Like, you got the crosshair where the bullet normally hits but also lines below to calculate the bullet drop

[verbal summit]

Nope

[short rune]

Ah. Shame

[verbal summit]

But that's not the reason why I want longer scopes

It's cus it's hard to make anything out at 300-400m

[short rune]

You mean for scouting?

[verbal summit]

No for shooting

Small targets are hard to see with a scope that barely zooms in

[short rune]

Thats a fair point

Though you would also need like an amazing spot to have that much of a free line of sight

[verbal summit]

That happens quite often tho

Otherwise it isn't really a problem

[glad marsh]

We still stand by our stance that there should be a new free warbond (at the scale of Helldivers Mobilize) released at the 1-year anniversary of the game

[verbal summit]

Yea

It should be at that scale

[short rune]

With the same type of content. Not sure if I would want to see skins and stratagems in one.

[verbal summit]

But the weapons in it shouldn't be too niche

[short rune]

?

[verbal summit]

Eruptor, crossbow, primary flamethrower, secondary flamethrower, energy warbonds weapons

All much more specific and niche weapons

[short rune]

Oh yeah. I thought you meant the weapons of a general warbond.

[verbal summit]

A big scale warbond should be more general.

Or at least not be only a few niches

It can have niche weapons as long as it has all sorts of types of niche weapons.

[short rune]

They may want to increase the medal cost should they make another free warbond next year

Like, first one is good for new players but now you get like so many medals

[unkempt river]

<@&1206091872716595200> THE ONLY GOOD SQUID IS A DEAD SQUID! FOR MANAGED DEMOCRACY!

[verbal knot]

What difficulty are you looking to do?

[unkempt river]

7s (we worked it in VC, but just so other people know)

[quick plinth]

https://www.rxddit.com/r/Helldivers/comments/1hhvdgb/we_are_so_back/

if you'll consult the graph

[unreal merlin]

I think it's not up at the peak yet, just the upswing, but I love hate how accurate it feels

[ionic holly]

Huh, the second wave of killzone stuff hasnt been given to me, ah well

[short rune]

It's given out in waves

[ionic holly]

Same as usual then? alright

[blissful sparrow]

2 waves the announcement said iirc

[cobalt patrol]

<@&1206091872716595200> you wouldn't download a car, but you sure can requisition one!

New FRV available now

[quick plinth]

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

https://tenor.com/view/mr-bison-street-fighter-yes-gif-3718772

[supple siren]

480 seconds but unlimited? joyous

[quick plinth]

8 minute CD before CD reductions

[cobalt patrol]

Genuinely may be taking it a bunch as a mobile hmg emplacement

[supple siren]

And just a blessing for blizzard planets

plus just fun, deeply glad it's not 2 per game

[cobalt patrol]

They must have cracked some of the memory issues

[quick crown]

@hallow gorge @steel sleet

its time

CAR CAR CAR

https://tenor.com/view/rvb-red-vs-blue-red-vs-blue-red-team-red-team-rvb-red-team-gif-23514753

[short rune]

Hell yeah

Toyota Hilux unlocked

[steady flame]

Fuck, now I wanna see a Super Earth light tank fitted with a light howitzer.

Theja, Dog w/Pilebunker again ↩️

[Reply to:](#1204832579287519292 message) https://tenor.com/view/rvb-red-vs-blue-red-vs-blue-red-team-red-team-rvb-red-team-gif-23514753 📎

[unreal merlin]

Just keep waiting, one day things will escalate so much that we get a 4-crew tank stratagem like HD1

[steady flame]

Mhm. I can explain where that thought came from though: The polkka mention.

[blissful sparrow]

i'm still waiting for the day where i can do my standard HD1 tactic:
bring 4 mechs and give everyone a toy to rampage with

[glad marsh]

CAAAAAAAARRRRRRR

[warped cypress]

hello

[quick plinth]

1 FRV
3 Helldivers
HMG Gunner
AC Gunner
FRV Driver

Close bug holes by driving around the edge, HMG running security while the AC does the work.

[warped cypress]

does anyone want to play helldivers?

[trail nymph]

<@&1206091872716595200> It's tine to hit the road

[steady flame]

Couldn't you then improve efficiency by getting a second AC?

Lady Havoc (She/Her) ↩️

[Reply to:](#1204832579287519292 message) 1 FRV
3 Helldivers
HMG Gunner
AC Gunner
FRV Driver

Close bug holes by driving around the edge, HMG …

[unkempt river]

give me 5?

[steady flame]

Though, I do wish the front passenger seat had a mounted MG-43 or Stalwart on it.

[cobalt patrol]

One tip: Dont use the wasp and the FRV.

It will go badly

in very funny ways

Read: I, the driver, was fine. @stone bridge killed everyone else and themselves with the shot. (At least, i think it was Briar who fired. it was funny either wy)

[hexed steeple]

hey this happened to me too (i fired)

and i think briar was there

[steady flame]

Mhm. As for why I mentioned a front-mounted MG, see the SAS Jeeps in North Africa (image courtesy of the Imperial War Museum)
https://media.iwm.org.uk/ciim5/171/572/mid_000000.jpg?action=e&cat=Photographs

[quick plinth]

I mean

you can fire the MG you brought

[supple siren]

Also if you aim out the door with a directional shield you can block shots from your side, s'neat

[steady flame]

Does it get stabilised if you're firing from a seat?

[glad marsh]

Ye

Ish

[uncut hatch]

Back pack shields also block damage while in the frv

[supple siren]

You do also stand exactly in Machine Gun Firing Range

when you start aiming

[supple siren]

but just needs a little care

[uncut hatch]

Lived a tripod beam because it had to bust thrugh 4 backpack shields to damage the car

[steady flame]

I.. Don't recognise that cannon.

Lady Havoc (She/Her) ↩️

[(click to see attachment)](#1204832579287519292 message)

[quick plinth]

weird 3 punder probably

or the american variant

[uncut hatch]

A technical in all but name

[steady flame]

Apparently a 37mm, so that's the US one.

Lady Havoc (She/Her) ↩️

[Reply to:](#1204832579287519292 message) weird 3 punder probably

[supple siren]

God these new purple explosive barrels are just chaotically dangerous

Swear I was like 20m away

[steady flame]

Fun fact: The term for a military technical is a gun truck.

ceptin ↩️

[Reply to:](#1204832579287519292 message) A technical in all but name

[quick plinth]

was gonna say

[steady flame]

Britain didn't much need that sort of thing because it had the Deacon. (All WW2 British SPGs have ecclesiastical names)

[cobalt patrol]

Oh, it may have been you who murdered everyone. Briar was there for sure

[hexed steeple]

:3c

[glad marsh]

Diabolical exploder....

[odd arch]

put ashley and danny in one car

[glad marsh]

There would be so much concentrated :3

[cobalt patrol]

Either way it was very funny

[verbal summit]

Raahhhh I want the wasp backkkk :(

I miss it

[strange vine]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/373639779050455040/1319436357201952919/guess-everyone-has-this-thought-about-watchers-v0-bn11d5sswt7e1.png?ex=67669d1d&is=67654b9d&hm=f2c04cd99897deee8534da76585a7622acb57336c4edc61a2de40651241e7856&

[trail nymph]

We have a slot open if anyone wants to join us

[cobalt patrol]

What diff are you rolling, and what are you hunting?

[trail nymph]

10s

[cobalt patrol]

(looks like you filled up anyway though)

[indigo bear]

I've been thinking about the 'reverse controls' mechanic from HD1 Illuminate, and how much I hate that mechanic in every game I've seen it in.

If we end up seeing it in HD2, it would be so cool if you could end the effect by using the Salute emote.

[neon plover]

😭

[graceful bluff]

When are they gonna give us the upgraded jetpack though

[glad marsh]

Holy moly

[tall stone]

https://tenor.com/view/rich-compressed-gold-drg-deep-rock-galactic-were-rich-gif-27496741

[neon plover]

how tf am i able to hear that gif

[unreal merlin]

🪨 ⛏️

[quick plinth]

https://www.rxddit.com/r/Helldivers/comments/1hih5db/drive_by_on_an_overseer_in_the_invisible/

[warped cypress]

i was eating dinner

now im back

but do note that i am breathing heavily cause my nose is stuffed and its hard to breathe 🫠

do anyone want to play?

[indigo bear]

Pondering my orb but my orb is a galactic anomaly.

[keen zinc]

<@&1206091872716595200> room for one more in Helldivers channel

[high epoch]

i'm dying for that shit.

200 hours and level 50. no fully upgraded ship cause i stayed mostly to lower.

tho i've recently gotten a few upgrades from playin so thanks ya'll :)

[indigo bear]

Literally me. I'm at cap with common samples. Scratching by on R and SR.

[spare verge]

something's missing here

this black hole lacks hole

[high epoch]

common bug where it disappears. try warping to another planet and back.

usually fixes it

[indigo bear]

There's something weird going on with texture rendering and mesh loads. Might be related.

[twin bridge]

its a lot scarier when its just completely empty

and dead silent

[lethal dagger]

the car is so fucking good

[indigo bear]

Just need the frogman veiled helmet to really round out the sinister-ass miltech fashion

[high epoch]

yes we're homicidial angry maniac soldiers in the name of democracy.

given our survival rates are low. to live you probably need to be deeply whatever the fuck that is.

expendable ? in your 0.5 seconds on the war-ground, throw as much bombs and bullets as possible.

[glad marsh]

We are notably playing as literal human bullets

[indigo bear]

Imagine a booster that makes reinforcement pods auto-aim like orbital rail strikes

[heady halo]

booster that activly launches you from the pod towards the nearest enemy

[indigo bear]

A Helldive into a Dive Kick

[glad marsh]

Why not just drop you from orbit without the pod
Just get really big atmosphere-entering boots

[indigo bear]

https://tenor.com/view/kamen-rider-geats-kamen-rider-tycoon-kamen-rider-naago-kamen-rider-ace-ukiyo-gif-26410260

Gah, now I want a kamen rider scarf style cape

[glad marsh]

They have not given us a single scarf yet

Nothing around the neck area

I think making that a thing would actually fix the peak physique armors for us

The whole not matching with anything part

[indigo bear]

A 'scarf' would probably end up being an asymmetrical streamer off one shoulder, and you would need the torso armor to have the wrap around. Like how the default scout armor has.

Or maybe a helmet could have it.

Just tricky the way they have the assets split up and physics enabled

[tight zephyr]

https://youtu.be/uZS0WIQI7UU

[steady bone]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCtFuq3YFXE
Has anyone else done the slug mode yet

[versed hamlet]

car seems good for sc farming so far btw
although it can be pretty easy to flip when trying to go fast

[unreal merlin]

The trick for car driving is Slow is steady, steady is fast. Don't gun the accelerator all the time, pulse it to maintain a decent forward speed that still lets you guide around obstacles. Avoid hitting obstacles by going slow, avoid wasting time coming to a full-stop or flipping.

[steady flame]

I.. Definitely didn't read "miltech" as "Militech". >.>

ZenosGreataxe ↩️

[Reply to:](#1204832579287519292 message) Just need the frogman veiled helmet to really round out the sinister-ass miltech fashion

[quick plinth]

I can attest to gunning it being a bad idea unless you can see a good 100 meters in front of you

[quick plinth]

https://x.com/egirlbl00dsport/status/1870011052613873797 @keen zinc

a Ceres for all seasons (@egirlbl00dsport) on X

buppydivers...

Twitter · Dec 20, 2024, 7:39 AM

[keen zinc]

It's me

[hallow gorge]

I hope that eventually the cosmetics get silly

Like not too silly, but I would love a cat ear helmet like a year from now

[verbal summit]

I've become one of the few of drivers of my friend group cus the rest either don't know how to drive, don't have a license and flip the car or gun it and flip the car.

I still try to go as fast as possible tho :3

[versed hamlet]

I have planetside brain 'if you go fast enough you'll probably roll a few times and then stopping it while upright is within your agency, if you flip while slow you're kinda screwed'

[quick plinth]

I do want them to gives a god damn handbreak

[versed hamlet]

although this is more when the terrain is agonizingly unflat rather than dealing with obstacles

and customizable controls

[strange vine]

!!!! https://www.rxddit.com/r/Helldivers/comments/1hip8ry/a_really_important_barrager_tank_change_not_many/

[versed hamlet]

I really want to gear shift with scrollwheel

[quick plinth]

yeah I noticed I could kill em with HMG turret

[versed hamlet]

shift and ctrl is so cumbersome to me I had to give up on learning how to use manual reverse

I actually prototyped an autohotkey script for someone who doesn't use WASD (since apparently they're forced to be wasd) although I have no idea if it works in practice

[idle hollow]

hellpod that launches you up, and then makes you do the Dr Doom foot dive from MVC3

[idle hollow]

i think the same applies to the rocket devs

shooting their rocket pods has always been strong

but it feels stronger

[graceful bluff]

give me a hellpod that shoots out a bunch of wasp micromissiles while coming down

[upbeat vector]

I have noticed a mild annoyance with the Blitzer

It says I'm out of ammo all the time

[versed hamlet]

yeah a lot of infinite weapons seem to do that

it probably also contributes to making your teammates think you have no ammo?

[verbal summit]

Bweugghhh I'll be on holiday when they give us back the wasp.

And I loved it

Wehhhh

I want it now!!!

[oblique hazel]

<@&1206091872716595200> anyone up for some diff 8 or 9 bots?

[oblique hazel]

<@&1206091872716595200> more divers requested!

[muted burrow]

kinda split on getting the stim pistol warbond or the newest warbond to try out the lance, these 2 seem the most unique to me, not sure if melee would get old quickly though

[civic apex]

https://youtu.be/zTtxO2B3xF4\

[indigo bear]

Sorry for having to bow out, Helldivers!

Cat is okay. She's stopped throwing up.

[tight zephyr]

Smoking a cigarette through the Helldiver helmet is very funny.

[ionic holly]

Personal opinion, melee got old within the same mission i tried it

im sure I just messed something up but for the kind of enviroments melee would have a use, our first one being a poking stick with a pretty narrow hitbox is not the best food forward

Like when it works it can work, you stun like nobody's business, but i'd rather have something with more eh, wide swings

love the directional shield though, pretty much exactly what i want

just waiting to get the helghast SMG till i use it a lot

[shy prairie]

You try the stun baton?

[hexed steeple]

didn't we get the smg for free

[ionic holly]

Yes and yes, i just havent gotten it actually delivered to me yet

which was
a hair irksome as a friend who joined me later in the day got his when joining me, but i dont wanna mire coming back to the game in minor annoyances like that

[ionic holly]

Wait by baton you mean the lance, yes?

[hexed steeple]

no there's a stun baton too

it was on the superstore before the hellzone cycle

[ionic holly]

Ah, then no

just the lance

[burnt vapor]

Shorter range but wider swings better for fighting hordes

[ionic holly]

Was not playing at the time the baton would've been availible

[ionic holly]

See that feels like it would've been exactly what i wanted

[burnt vapor]

Harder to aim though can’t poke in the head like you can with the lance

[covert umbra]

the new sniper is pretty good, but man the ammo economy sucks

[muted burrow]

oh yeah, the shield looks cool too

[covert umbra]

there was a more traditional baton type weapon in the SC store a few days ago

that being said, i think the spear is pretty good at stunlocking things to death

[muted burrow]

i do think i would get bored with a melee weapon with only 1 attack instead of a string or other attack options

I'll check the rest of the warbond contents again, thanks for the feedback y'all

[ionic holly]

Aye, i do think its good for what it can do, i guess i just wanted something else out of a melee weapon

[frosty nexus]

The next melee weapon they need to add is the flag of super earth

The one after that is just the ullapool caber from tf2

Hitting anything with it just instantly kills you and everything within 5m

[ionic holly]

YEAH

JUST USE THE THERMITE LIKE A CABER

[muted burrow]

https://tenor.com/view/sin-kiske-guilty-gear-guilty-gear-strive-kiske-kyske-gif-27240940

give em a good smack

[quick plinth]

we should really defend Errata Prime first

[quick plinth]

these fkn

they see "FENRIR III" in the MO brief and stop thinking right there

WE HAVE TO HOLD BOTH

[cobalt patrol]

Hey hey hey, i was driving aroundo nErrata prime

[quick plinth]

I was as well

but it wont matter because people seemingly can't strategise

[glad marsh]

In all fairness, you two totally would singlehandedly liberate an entire planet

Strategy is still very much mob rules here though, people see the planets that a majority of players are on and go there

[verbal summit]

Yeah

[cobalt patrol]

Honestly, there are times i wish i could

[trail nymph]

<@&1206091872716595200> It is time

[cobalt patrol]

(also, thanks for the compliment. I'm not sure i'm THAT good, but ia prpeciate it)

[keen zinc]

Gimme 20 dollars five minutes

[unreal merlin]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R09y83XJJJU

[trail nymph]

<@&1206091872716595200> 1 more for bug 10s

[keen zinc]

failure to report for duty will result in immediate defenestration

[cobalt patrol]

Do you actually have a window to throw people through?

[cobalt patrol]

Fuckin' nearly 800 kilsl that bug mission

[trail creek]

yeas, I like making everything burn. I'm spreading flames of freedom

[keen zinc]

||https://divers.gg/primary-weapons/ar-20l-justice||

[warped cypress]

my helldiver in the meantime:

https://tenor.com/view/back-to-bed-youths-gif-26378944

*she is a heavy sleeper and can be awoken with food only

i give my helldiver LORE

[upbeat vector]

Oh

Is that a leak

[unreal merlin]

divers.gg seems to be

[upbeat vector]

I mean, I know it's a screenshot from the first game but it was posted with absolutely no context or discussion so I think that's a leak

[unreal merlin]

Well the weapon itself is a first-game weapon, the spoilered-link above links to what I assume is a data-mined information site.

[blissful sparrow]

the "leak" is in the earlier spoilered link

[tall stone]

Oh hey, just noticed that planets show Decay Rate and Invasion rating now!

[glad marsh]

||It's a marksman rifle instead of a baby MG now???||

[indigo bear]

||Its mechanical stats may be partially or totally placeholder.||

[strange vine]

yeah those stats are very out of date, as is the rest of that site

[idle hollow]

ist es over fur mich...

[hazy oriole]

Aw DAMMIT we were RIGHT THERE

[quick plinth]

if only

the blob

wasn't fkn stupid

[hazy oriole]

might as well make that the helldiver corps motto

At this point I have given up all hope of the majority of this community ever putting in an ounce of tactical thought

[quick plinth]

CONSISTENTLY 40% of players don't use the strategic part of their brain

[hazy oriole]

gamers don't read unfortunately

...it legitmately may be as simple as erata being a desert planet and people not wanting to play on it.

Seriously, apparently a lotta folks make the decision of where they want to play based on that.

[unreal merlin]

Cold planets are objectively favorable toward helldivers, but it seriously isn't that bad.

[indigo bear]

I don't think the majority of players are even considering the current status of planets in the galaxy when they drop. It's purely 'Select and Quickplay'

[hazy oriole]

Fuming unhappily and stomping my feet

[quick plinth]

the fact you can quickplay by selecting a front

[unreal merlin]

Still, I am of similar belief that a huge fraction of divers don't realize that they could have flipped over to Erata and burned out that defense all quick-like and then gone right back to Fenrir so they wouldn't have to liberate Fenrir and ALSO go liberate Erata.

[keen zinc]

https://www.rxddit.com/r/Helldivers/s/Yuqt9xpjiC

@quick plinth

[tall stone]

So hey, there's actually another factor that's important to this that I feel needs to be called out as well....

[unreal merlin]

There's too many fronts breaking out and Super Earth is struggling to regain control of the situation after the incredibly hectic defenses against Illuminate raids. We're in increasingly dire need of maintenance on the bot and bug fronts, not just "hey build a new science outpost!" but "we need to carve out and reestablish a buffer zone".

Unfortunately the majority are just following the MO wherever it leads, and any sense of community strategy is lost in the wind to be overshadowed by whatever method Joel & Co. are using to choose new objectives.

[tall stone]

I hate to say it, but too many people are going for the squids.

[blissful sparrow]

obviously. they are new enemies

[tropic isle]

hey, need an opinion.

Are 8-10 diff torture?

[shy prairie]

depends

with a competent crew, no

[unreal merlin]

It's very much dependent on the players working together and using their kits well.

[tropic isle]

aaaaah that's why they don't like it...

they like to run off on their own and do their own thing on mission

[tall stone]

You can do that.

You just have to prep right.

And also acknowledge that sometimes the right answer is to leave.

[quick plinth]

very often you can have 2 people doing the objective and 2 people doing the side stuff solo across the map on a 10

at least that's with the crew I play with here every often

[tropic isle]

i know, i'm part of it lol

[unreal merlin]

I like splitting into pairs at 10s, it's a cool balance of independence and chaos minimization.

I use scout armor so am VERY confident in running off solo while the other three do normal stuff.

[oblique lotus]

8-10 are the easiest they have ever been in the history of the game

so no not really

[tropic isle]

yeah there's someone i played with who refuses to play anything above a 6

[oblique lotus]

some of it is enemy dependent but honestly you can do 10s as uncoordinated pubs nowadays without too much issue

wait why 6?

[tropic isle]

i have no idea

[oblique lotus]

7's about as difficult (not) and you get much better sample payouts

imo bugs are the easiest to do solo uncoordinated and it's pretty easy so long as you have the right gear

[tall stone]

6 is the minimum to get Super Samples.

[strange vine]

friends and i tried out the car on some terminids

[indigo bear]

I was in a pub squad today where there was nobody on mic, no quick-menu callouts, and no text chat. The only communication was by way of dropping waypoints on the map.

Reader, we were piling in and out of that FRV with perfect precision and mutual understanding. Slammed through that lvl7 in carpool style

[idle hollow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMk3HMZTrcw

[strange vine]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHj6WKAmYZ8

[oblique lotus]

I have yet to find a convenient way to kill harvesters

they can soak eagle rockets all day, laser cannon takes a bit, they seem to be able to soak commando fire

shooting the leg joint works but man that laser kills you quick

[stone bridge]

RR/Quasar/EATs/Commando to the leg joint is a one tap

I believe RR/Commando do enough damage to one tap the eye too

[unreal merlin]

MMG, HMG, and AMR bullet focus on the leg joint is an easy kill as well. AMR is just 4 shots.

[trim breach]

Salty Real Talk

I fucking hate jetpack overseers to the point where I think there would be nothing of value lost if they were removed from the game entirely.

[unreal merlin]

They're very annoying. My personal go-to is an MG sentry that just cuts them down.

[trim breach]

Tanky, High Damage, High Mobility: Pick two. All three for something that isn't a heavy/elite is just bad design

Especially given they can show up in packs of half a dozen

[spare verge]

I'm hoping they'll cut down on their numbers when they have more than 5 units in their roster

[oblique hazel]

For what it's worth their main attack doesn't actually deal much damage, and they have pretty awful accuracy

They're not much of a threat on their own if you can dodge the grenades

[high epoch]

[high epoch]

the bright side is. atleast it's quicker to take a planet then defend it.

or so i was told eons ago back when we pushed bots off the map.

[unreal merlin]

Yeah their accuracy is trash, but it does hurt if they hit you with several bolts. Their movement is SO hard to predict though.

Honestly the best primary I've found for Illuminate work? Vanilla Liberator. Just dump half a mag into an Overseer's chest and they die, don't even bother for headshots. Headshots go on the Voteless, just pop them with a single bullet to the noggin.

[stone bridge]

Do you have the Halt?

From the Truth Enforcers warbond

[unreal merlin]

Plasma weapons like Scorcher do excellent against Overseers as well, but it's hard to beat the sheer versatility of the Liberator.

Oh I bet the Halt's stun mode really cheeses them.

[trim breach]

Yes

The issue with the plasma weapons is landing hits

Same with the MGs

[stone bridge]

Take the Halt, use stun rounds, one trigger pull stuns them for around 4 seconds

[trim breach]

I tried the halt earlier and didn't think it was doing much, for some reason

[stone bridge]

Don't bother trying to kill them with Flechette, just swap to the Senator or Verdict

One Senator headshot kills them, two jetpack shots does the same

My general loadout for Illuminate so far has been:

Primary: Halt
Secondary: Senator
Grenades: Gas

Armour: Heavy Siege Breaker (Flexible, take whatever you like)

Stratagems: Strafe/Gas (But this is realistically a flex slot)/Rover/Commando

Halt/Senator 1-2 kills overseers, Rover and Gas kills Voteless crowds, Commando one-taps Harvesters

Strafe flexibly one taps shields or sweeps away enemy clusters

[oblique lotus]

wait commando rockets onetap the joint?

the half-EAT rockets?

am I shooting the right part?

[strange vine]

yes, it has to be the horizontal portion of the leg connecting it to the main body

[oblique lotus]

oh I was shooting at the vertical portion where the horizontal portion connects

that explains it

[quick plinth]

shoot the black bits

[stone bridge]

https://youtu.be/QfVDAD2c9B4?si=SVtRhidWu6qpKaAX&t=96

Video depicting it

[oblique lotus]

yeah I was shooting at the wrong bit

all good now

[tight zephyr]

<@&1206091872716595200> Who wants to dive on some bugs?

5326-1485

[trail nymph]

Give me 10 minutes

[oblique lotus]

ok yeah this is really easy

just burn off a leg and it instantly dies

[tight zephyr]

Yeah, once I figured that out my problems went away suddenly.

[unkempt river]

I'll be up in a little bit, need to eat first

[hallow gorge]

I like that the tripods are armored at the top

Really shows that the illuminate aren't messing around

They know how we work

[tall stone]

Jokes on them, I'm built different. Built stupid.

I run under them and aim up with a flamethrower. 😛

[quick plinth]

landing on them kills them

[hallow gorge]

Well yeah I just mean I've seen one tank a railgun shot

But they die to a rocket to the joints

[tall stone]

Of course. Moving parts can't have as much armor.

[hallow gorge]

Yeah, so the tripods are armored against orbital fire from super destroyers more than on foot weapons

It's cool

[oblique hazel]

<@&1206091872716595200> got 2 spots open for another squad

[cerulean sluice]

I'll hop on in a bit

[trim breach]

Autocannon, however, is completely useless

...Against basically everything squid-wise

It takes four direct hits to kill an overseer

[royal lantern]

Holy fuck the laser cannon is so good against the Illuminates

My baby boy has arrived in his niche, though he has been kind of a sleeper for a while

[trim breach]

laser cannon is good

I actually like the MMG more than the HMG for everything except Harvesters

Mostly because round travel time with the HMG sorta makes it feel like you're lobbing paintballs

AMR is decent

[stone bridge]

It's a one tap to the head tho

[trim breach]

Not in my experience

[half crypt]

I've been loving the antimat rifle against Illuminate

[stone bridge]

I recorded this specifically to show the AC one tap

EMS does no damage, so this was a full 100-0

It's just a tight shot

[supple siren]

Halt Stun - Flechette Headshot works at close range too

Very brutal response to melee Overseers

[strange vine]

https://girlcockx.com/helldivers2/status/1870553572003488079

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1212545208445837362/1320171121798025307/611a5f2634e1ad942eb1dabc47590ce206d66ce97ffe5a131f1e7b72067080e1_1.mov?ex=6768a0ab&is=67674f2b&hm=51f687177d1fa927e3c7c2a86f023e7e6e9c0f7457d0aa27576f9f22c1aabafe&

[trim breach]

Hmmm. Apparently I'm just a shit shot with it then. >_>

[stone bridge]

It's not an easy weapon to aim, I'm just letting you know it is possible

AC Sweep continues apace

[ionic holly]

Man i REALLY like the reprimand, know im a bit late to talking about it but eh, i wasnt here when it released

[cobalt patrol]

You're doing the High Explosive Lord's work

[trim breach]

Honestly, I'm digging the commando on squid maps now

[tight zephyr]

I bet the autocannon is hilarious when you're a passenger in the buggy.

[trim breach]

Given how many times we've had a full squad wipe due to somebody fucking up with the plasma weapons while trying to shoot from the side seat...

[ionic holly]

Hm, is siege ready bugged? its applying to my secondary

And while it'd be neato to have the GP back to 8 shots via an armour perk, kinda seems unintentional given the descriptor

[stone bridge]

yes

[ionic holly]

Tracks
a shame, ill hold off on using it till its fixed then, dont wanna accidentally get used to the incorrect ammo for secondaries

[cobalt patrol]

applies to everything right now. Very ogod with machine gun builds as a result

[ionic holly]

See that's fair but i'd rather not get used to a bugged version of the perk, no offense

[cobalt patrol]

Oh, totally

I'm in will enjoy it while it lasts, totally expedct it to et fixed (or embraced, but if htey do i imagine they'l,l nerf it sliughtly)

[royal lantern]

Honestly making it both primary and secondary feels like a good change, though it probably shouldn't effect support weapons for balance reasons

[cobalt patrol]

Agree. Secondaries is fine and even fun!

but supprot weapons makes it arugably the BiS armor choice.

Which is boring.

[royal lantern]

It's made using the Dominator much more enjoyable against the squids

[royal lantern]

Yeah that's basically my feeling

Even though I've been using the laser cannon so reloading them has been sort of a non issue

[cobalt patrol]

Reload buffs are just incredibly strong. like even if without applying to support weapons, it's a huge buff to the Ex Crossbow

which is one of those "May actually be the best weapon in teh game"

[ionic holly]

That i can 100% jive with, especially since like said it actually puts the GP back to 8 shots

Honestly i'm just happy to see armour abilities effect our bread and butter weapons like this

[unkempt river]

<@&1206091872716595200> anyone up to stomp the enemies of Managed Democracy? (which are many and evil and ineffective against the might of Super Earth)

[graceful bluff]

Can do

[cobalt patrol]

Sadly, all i got left is an erdacite and i'm gonna do that and then bed or POE probably

[cobalt patrol]

I'd love to see passives like Gas Rounds or Incindenary Bullets etc

[ionic holly]

Ooo that would be fun

[cobalt patrol]

stuff where it's a notable boost, but the downsid of giving up otehr passives should balance it out

(This is totally inspried by having Path of Exile on the brain, admitedlly)

[ionic holly]

Gas rounds would be my favorite frankly just for the confusion effect

[unkempt river]

nerd

Me when Gas Rounds are actually just Fire Bullets:

[ionic holly]

See yknow something i REALLY want?

an armour passive that lets you one hand any non-support weapon

this desire is absolutely influenced by the directional shield

[unkempt river]

yall know if the lance is any good against the bugs?

[ionic holly]

Haven't tried it on em myself, still really soured from my first few goes with it

which is a shame because, as you can see, i am HUGE shield nerd so i was kinda excited for the combo

[unkempt river]

I enjoy it into squids, but idk if it's worth giving up Grenade pistol

[ionic holly]

What nades are you running?

[cobalt patrol]

It really needs the peak physique passive to shine, and even then you gotta use the actual melee button for it towkr right (Oh video game code)

[unkempt river]

stun

[cobalt patrol]

Big note: Gas nades can now kill fabs/bug holes etc

[ionic holly]

wait what

[cobalt patrol]

Recent patch upped their demo force. So ifd you drop em in a hole tc, boom goes the hole

[ionic holly]

as someone who loves the gas grenades

WOOOOO

[stone bridge]

Gas was already goated, wild buff

[ionic holly]

my current build has been a blast ngl

reprimand, verdict, gas nades and flexible choices on the support weapon depending on what i'm fighting

[strange vine]

I really dont agree? It opens up alt playstyles but for one it only applies to support weapons that dont use backpack reloads and youre still giving up stuff like peak physique which really makes a lot of sluggish weapons super snappy, recoil reduction armor which is really great on MGs and AC, and unflinching which is super useful on weapons with charge up time or require you to hold the reticle on something. Not to mention utility armors like arc resist or fire resist

[quick plinth]

it gives you an extra mag to maybe carry, not more ammo outright which I feel like is worth but not OP atall

[strange vine]

Like id take siege ready with Stalwart or the MMG, but only so i can take a guard dog

If i bring a supply pack then siege ready's extra magazine is worthless

And bringing a supply pack means i can bring recoil reduction armor

If i bring the RR then id rather have peak physique because being able to snap my aim to my target is much more useful

[cobalt patrol]

Still gives faster reloads to backpack weapons

[strange vine]

For the most part i dont notice

[cobalt patrol]

(I actually run stelath lgiht armor most of the time, personally)

[strange vine]

Its nice but its not a massive gamechanger

[verbal summit]

I hope they add silenced weapons since you mentioned stealth

Give the amr an optional silencer

[tall stone]

It's so hard to not indulge in the sneaky. Scout armor is so good.

[fringe quiver]

me going on higher difficulty flag mission
Ah, so I see the dev that designed the evac missions designed another one

[unreal merlin]

I don't think they're nearly as bad as original defense-evac missions.

[fringe quiver]

Probably not because as far as I can tell it just spawns 1 bug breach at like 20-30%

so if you can stay next to the flag and survive that you're fine

but if it drops and you go back it'll reset that trigger

[unreal merlin]

Oh yeah, THAT sucks especially when you're playing with randoms who don't communicate or understand this.

[fringe quiver]

bile titan just means no given you can't one shot them, charger spam you could get lucky if you have a solid 500kg drop but def not meant to be soloable it feels

[unreal merlin]

You can one-shot BTs with recoilless/quasar to the head, though.

Same with chargers.

[fringe quiver]

it works against the BTs with a face shot? is it the mouth or can it pass the armor?

[strange vine]

Yeah AT weapons trivialize the bug heavies

[unreal merlin]

Use of rocket sentry helps. It's kinda hard to just solo diff10s with defense objectives like that though

yeah BTs aren't actually much of a threat assuming someone has a real AT weapon to use

the new AT/E turret two-shots them in the head as well

[fringe quiver]

I've been just running and belly shotting with the quasar

so that's good to know

[cobalt patrol]

For BTs. the head is ao ne shot

Destorying a leg (hard to do, but can happen) also works

[fringe quiver]

I used to use EATs but the Quasar seems more convenient esp for snipping the shrieker nests/spores

[cobalt patrol]

guts are a general well, uh, gut em.

[unreal merlin]

Ever since the quasar cooldown increase I've kinda stayed away from it because I wind up fighting more heavy armor than it can handle

[cobalt patrol]

For Impalers - when they deploy their tentacles, go for the eyes it reveals, not the teantcles lower down

The eye peic actually is super vulenrable, you can melt them with a lot of wepaons as long as you're going for said eyes

breaking their legs is also very reliable if they're chasing you/not deploying

[fringe quiver]

Ah found which warbond the ATE is in

yeah I thought it looked neat but I've no super credits

so gotta get some more

[fringe quiver]

is it just me or the kill forces missions 1-2 difficulties higher than what they say they are?

[hearty pier]

IMO they aren't actually any harder, they are just testing you on how fast you can actually kill things. The missions aren't long enough that running out of lives is really a threat so just send it with lots of ordnance

At small player counts that's a bit tougher because you only get so many stratagems

[fringe quiver]

Really? Cause the AI feels like it's more aggressive than the normal missions

[hearty pier]

Oh, that's because they have nothing to defend and know where you are. Basically the whole mission is like you've activated a geological survey node or a raise flag objective

[fringe quiver]

Ahh

yeah that's what it was cause I'm used to like, "oh I'll start the obj" and then just kinda dodge around them where in the exterminate forces mission they're like actively running infront of me

[signal jackal]

https://youtube.com/shorts/RB6QIZ_0sbs?si=W46Zho2FMZ7_EGwr

this looks fun

[ripe cloud]

i'm sad i miss the field chemist armor

[supple siren]

wonder how they'll address the shop rotation, probably get a few pages to sort through or something, but they did mention wanting to have things more accessible now that there's a lot

[undone veldt]

So as someone who’s never driven shift before

What does the 1 and 2 mean on the buggy?

[unreal merlin]

Lower gears of a transmission apply more torque (power) to the wheels but at a lower speed. When you need lots of pull you use gear 1 such as when you're going uphill.

[undone veldt]

Thanks

[quick plinth]

the FRV has an automatic transmission with the ability to go into the 1st and 2nd gears manually, to facilitate more grip and torque, very useful on slippery terrain such as sand, going up a hill or to keep a limited top speed on precarious terrain.

[undone veldt]

Thanks for the explanation

[quick plinth]

https://www.rxddit.com/r/Helldivers/comments/1hk0285/the_correct_way_to_clear_a_mega_nest/

for some reason reddit embeds have broken audio

[unreal merlin]

We tried that once but it was very spontaneous and hard to do with a full party in the bus.

[oblique lotus]

wait barrage tank turrets are AP0

just like, all of it

you can pen it with shotguns

[unreal merlin]

IIRC it's a recent change, particularly on the barrel-end of the turret.

[oblique lotus]

yeah but it's supposed to be AP5 on the sides, AP2 on the front

it's AP0 all round

[high epoch]

https://youtu.be/cOVHaKbh9X0

[indigo bear]

Really enjoying the Democracy Protects armor ability for random pub games.

I've eaten more than a few poorly placed strike stratagems and lived to tell the tale because of it

[oblique lotus]

50% of the time 100% of the time

[signal jackal]

I survived overcharging a railgun shot on purpose with it

[cobalt patrol]

So.

Peak Physique STun baton might not just be viable into d10 bugs, it might actually be good!?

[quick plinth]

Peak Physique stays winning

[unreal merlin]

If you macro the animation cancel you can fight chargers to death with a stun lance

In seconds

I've one friend who runs at bile titans to stab them to death in the legs

The stun effect is genuinely crazy good vs bugs

[cobalt patrol]

Eh, that feels like cheating to me, i basically avoid macros like that like the plauge

just not fun

[unreal merlin]

That's very fair, I don't want to do it myself either and suspect it may get patched out

Even still, you can swing either the lance or baton fast enough to hold back a lot of bugs at once

[cobalt patrol]

Yeah. It's not super great at killing - YOur limit looks to be Alpha Warriors

Alpha commanders are pretty hard to actualyl kill

but you can lock down and smear a lot of littles

and just flat out blunt the offensvie of a bunch of mediums by whacking off their legs while they're stunned

Not acutally sure i like it as a playstyle, i'm a bit more "ANd here ism y gas strike, lol"

but it's certianly interesting tech to know about

[unreal merlin]

Yeah I'm a big "fumigate these bugs" advocate and run both gas grenades and orbital gas (vs all enemies actually)

My latest bug kit involves
MMG
AT Emplacement
MG Sentry
Orbital Gas

Sometimes trade MMG for quasar as a "running around" AT option with the Emplacement for any time I find a good spot to hammer away at a bug breach

[cobalt patrol]

My bug kit is RR/Gas/MG SEntry/500kg. So similar but differnet to you.

Gas grenades are great. I like Purifer a whole bunch, it purifies things very well

[unreal merlin]

I really like the power a well placed cannon Emplacement brings to 10s, just absolutely hammering anything medium and above

[cobalt patrol]

https://i.redd.it/hb5jgc5j8j8e1.jpeg

The "Whoops, My Bad" build

[cobalt patrol]

So my reaosn for not liking this ovbviosuyl really powerfuil strat is very silyl. but it's also valid:

I cant see shit form the smoke it spews out on impact XD

[unreal merlin]

Yeah that's a problem lol

Gotta pace yourself to see, though my way around that is switching targets after each shot and hitting something else in the interim and swinging back if the first one needs to be hit. Or just, y'know, hold fire for a second

But that thing is 15 dead bile titans or chargers, more chargers if you're able to direct hit the abdomen

30 dead brood commanders

Turns out enormous breaches are real easy to handle when everything bigger than a hunter is obliterated from 200m away

[royal lantern]

I'm shocked by the lack of orbital 380 or napalm

[quick crown]

Those bastards!

The squids are ruining christmas!

[verbal summit]

A friend was using mines and then they drove into them themselves.

[ionic holly]

they were being quality assurance

gotta make sure they blow up

[muted burrow]

didn't get the baton in time

[cobalt patrol]

It'll rotate back! And they want to fix the store so you don't have to wait for rotations

[trail nymph]

<@&1206091872716595200> It is time for the helldivers to save Christmas

[verbal summit]

By the time I get back home the wasp launcher will probably be out already

I loved it

[high epoch]

Carol of the bells while spreading democracy goes hard.

[trail nymph]

2 more for diving

[idle hollow]

is the Loyalist any good?

the plasma pistol from enforcers

[idle hollow]

oh cool

[cobalt patrol]

I don't like it personally, it feels very fussy to use. But i love the purifier, so ???

[idle hollow]

oh is it charge like the purifier?

interesting

[verbal summit]

I like it

The purifier doesn't feel good enough.

The loyalist feels good enough for a secondary

[cobalt patrol]

It's literally just a mini purifier.

[idle hollow]

and is the purifier good

[quick plinth]

yes

[unreal merlin]

https://vxtwitter.com/HD2Memes/status/1871178053415825763

can confirm though I think the most I've fought is six or so

[high epoch]

I need a futuristic knife or machete next.

Or an axe.

Imagine a fire-axe

[indigo bear]

https://tenor.com/view/chainsword-warhammer40k-warhammer40000-space-marine-adeptus-astartes-gif-19117746

[high epoch]

And that

Especially that

[strange vine]

https://www.rxddit.com/r/Helldivers/comments/1hkt4ra/get_stick_bugged_helldivers_lol/

[wind arrow]

somehow reminds me of this: (source: https://www.fab.com/listings/9e4b1230-153a-45a2-a065-a1b3c8244094)

[glad marsh]

Sol.. hellguy...

[indigo bear]

Finally got Thermite Grenades. How have I lived without them for so long?

[unreal merlin]

IMO you can keep living without em, mostly because I think they just take way too long to justify bringing

gas grenades are where it's at

[steady flame]

Personally what I want is an entrenching tool or some other non-stun melee weapon. One that actually properly goes BONK.

[upbeat vector]

Cavalry sword

[trail nymph]

Give me a flagpole spear

[upbeat vector]

Are Illuminate still around?

[spare verge]

they've been invading about a planet a day currently

Seasse is the one up right now

[indigo bear]

They take a long time, for sure. But it's pretty often that I find myself dodging a heavy unit because nobody else has the tools to take it down.

At least with thermites it's not 'If?' but 'When?'

[graceful bluff]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1208909745428111441/1320688830264774716/IMG_4366.png?ex=676b2b92&is=6769da12&hm=7e283518402a6c44be4c62c36176380b9066f2bb32c3efd819431b02b54b5bb8&

[fringe quiver]

me trying to figure out where the StA-11 SMG is

realizes it's part of the 2nd KZ collab stuff

doesn't have the 2nd KZ collab stuff
It would be a bit easier if I paid attention sometimes

[upbeat vector]

How do you get the 2nd KZ collab stuff?

Or, how did you?

I have a friend who logged in on the same day I did, but I got the stuff and he didn't

[spare verge]

someone else with the same issue posted this https://www.reddit.com/r/Helldivers/comments/1hkp4j0/arrowheads_response_to_my_complaint_email/

[fringe quiver]

ye it's up in the air what's going to happen

like for me my account was innactive

so I don't qualify technically

[stone bridge]

I mean it's not up in the air really

That response is a pretty clear statement of intent

[fringe quiver]

I meant for how the 2nd wave stuff, cause based on the HD2 discord and some of the dms people have asked the mods, it sounds like they're unsure outside of specifically the 2nd wave stuff will be available at some point in the future

might mean it would be paid for the individuals that missed it, or they might give it out for free in another wave (what I suspect is going to happen)

[odd arch]

I've been part of the church of thermite even before the buff

[graceful bluff]

They'll probably just yeet it at everyone, figuring out who the couple of people that didn't count for it is such a big annoyance compared to just giving everyone it

warframe players see that every year when they do a big twitch drop thing and never learn :v

at worst they'll probably just attach it to a major order as a side thing

[sinful briar]

anyone been using smoke grenades?

think i should try them on bots

[odd arch]

yeah they're a staple of my loadouts

[sinful briar]

kinda missing my panic button impacts, but a little foresight and a servo armor seems to make it worth the trade

[odd arch]

a funny thing about smokes is that if you want to cover yourself you often have to let them cook in your hand

because throwing them might make everything in the area turn around and look directly at you

[indigo bear]

Man, having a real bad string of pub games. Lots of people that just start killing teammates, reinforcing, and killing again

[fringe quiver]

I don't play pub

I have other games for that

I shall join you if you need tho

Be warned I am only lvl 21 and have not too much unlocked

[trail nymph]

Same here if you need help

[indigo bear]

I should toss up a call in here more often.

Generally, I have a pretty great time with pub groups though. Just a weird bad streak all the sudden.

[high epoch]

yea pub groups 9.5/10 are fine. but maybe that's just cause im use to working with a below ideal team idk.

lotta time i'm rawdogging main objectives cause a lot of people don't use move and shoot

[unreal merlin]

I'm kind of addicted to roleplaying as field artillery with the AT Emplacement. Find me a rock or hill to park atop and I will sit there all mission blasting medium+ targets all the way across the map.

[quick plinth]

I see no god damn wasp in my armory

[high epoch]

https://youtu.be/jI23PjBjQKM

[oblique hazel]

uhhhh

y'all see the new MO?

[high epoch]

https://tenor.com/view/war-vietnam-ptsd-shell-shock-moment-gif-3022747568394546158

100 medals as a christmas present....

[quick plinth]

me that's been capped on medals for forever

[wind arrow]

me when i just unlocked a warbond and it's timely that i needed medals

[high epoch]

nothing can go wrong within this certain amount of time to hold super earth right ?

surely not ?

right ?!

it's free 100 medals right guys ?

[unreal merlin]

There's precedent of this kind of MO already, nothing bad's gonna happen to Super Earth.

The next three days are party mode per the MO announcement.

[agile fable]

meaning we can KILL WHOEVER WE WANT WITHOUT CONSEQUENCE unless they're a citizen of super earth

[quick plinth]

wasp as a global modifier again

let me fkn buy it arrowhead

[strange vine]

No its been given for free as a strat

[unreal merlin]

https://twitter.com/FrezshDraws/status/1871288449107718210

Frezsh 🍊 (@FrezshDraws) on X

IM IN FUCKING SUPER DEBT

Twitter · Dec 23, 2024, 8:15 PM

[strange vine]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1209566200959602710/1321269198285967420/IMG_20241224_191139535.jpg?ex=676c9f54&is=676b4dd4&hm=2d78779c69e8272e85e5372a23abc647dde6b8c502fb449e7b1a986c21e6a653&

[quick plinth]

finally

[strange vine]

Told you

[quick plinth]

I did get that

checked my menu

wasn't there

it takes too fkn long

but wtf is this

I own it but it says I can unlock it

damn

AH

pls, fix ur ui

I dont see it being great on bugs

they get too close too quickly

[trail nymph]

<@&1206091872716595200> A merry festival of reckoning to all the Pnet divers

[strange vine]

Yeah, but i tried it on bots and its really fun

[fringe quiver]

Wait that's what it was?!

I was so confused lol

[unreal merlin]

Wasp

• Extremely useful vs Illuminate overseers
• Extremely useful vs Automaton devastators/berserkers
• Moderately useful vs Terminids, probably not enough to justify
  basically it's a tool for dunking on medium sized enemies with a little up-punch capability but not efficiently. You can usually just fight medium bugs with more typical options, though the extreme range of the wasp does let you do it very effectively if they're not already upon you.

[oblique hazel]

how does it do vs tanks?

[unreal merlin]

Haven't tried myself, probably poorly unless the angles happen to line up for vent impacts.

Compare to how effective it was vs Harvesters, or rather how not-effective it was. If you dumped two mags or so it would get them (assuming shield already down)

[strange vine]

It requires more than 1 reload to deal with hulks and above, unless it hits a vent. Its max AT damage per reload is 1400 damage, and for reference a single Commando missile does 1100 damage and EATs/QC do 2000

[oblique hazel]

Damn ok

[upbeat vector]

What does the RR do?

[strange vine]

Its an anti medium/light heavy (like scout striders and bug commanders) weapon that can damage heavies, the 200 AP6 AT damage per missile is only to make up for needing a lock on to fire as opposed to the AC being able to hit weak spots

[strange vine]

RR does 3000, and the spear does 4000

[signal jackal]

It one shots illuminate overseers

[cobalt patrol]

Side note on this, i fugred out why the RR seems to sometimes randomly one shot Harvesters in odd places

It's because tehy actually only have 3k hp total, and only 2k body hp. So if you hit in bertween the plating on their body, or osmeone's already taken the plating off...

...also you can shoot them in the foot with the rr for a kill and it's v. funny

[glad marsh]

The toes are a vital organ for the illuminate war machine

[oblique lotus]

The foot is a leg weakspot yeah

[strange vine]

my head doesnt match my armor anymore

thoroughly fucking painted my god

[oblique hazel]

no clue why our heads get so muddy, but its certainly funny sometimes lol

[keen zinc]

its a bug

one they HAD fixed in the past

[unkempt river]

<@&1206091872716595200> anyone up to help spread some Managed Democracy?

[cobalt patrol]

Maybe in a bit? Need to feed cats etc first

[oblique hazel]

I can't be on comms, but I can hop in for a mission

[unkempt river]

you good with bots or would you prefer a different faction?

[oblique hazel]

bots is perfect

ideally 8+

[verbal summit]

So since the wasp is back, anyone seen any differences from when we first got it?

[quick plinth]

if you're still up for it a slots open now

[graceful bluff]

https://tenor.com/view/godfather-massacre-sad-gif-16810633

[strange vine]

I dont think the wasp in the og game could take out heavy tanks so idk why youre saying this :v its a beast of a medium killer rn

[verbal summit]

Yeah

I'm gonna love it

Tho it not taking out heavies whereas the AMR does I guess is what makes the AMR better ish for me but I still love both so now j have 2 weapons I can switch between depending on my mood.

[strange vine]

It can take out heavies but its gonna require multiple reloads to do so

It can kill a tank from the front in 2 reloads while every other anti medium support weapon barring the railgun is stuck only damaging the tracks unless they flank

[ionic holly]

YEAHHHHHH
ive been wanting this the moment i saw it

[verbal summit]

You can damage the tracks???

[ionic holly]

Hell fucking yeah man
i adore the wasp already

gonna wind up flexing between it and the spear at this ratew

[verbal summit]

Wasp and amr

I tend to fill a taking care of mediums easily role.

I do wonder if my role is noticeable to my team but I guess it is at times cus sometimes I'll just snipe ahead for my team while they go to a Base/POI/something else.

Cover a friend while they do stuff.

[stone bridge]

Yeah there's Armour 3 tracks exposed in the front you can damage and destroy to stop it from moving

[verbal summit]

Ooh

[steady flame]

poke head in. Hey er, I have 1000SC, should I get Freedom's Flame or wait for the next warbond?

[cobalt patrol]

You have every other warbond?

Freedom's Flame is worth it just for the Torcher and Crisper imho

[steady flame]

I don't have the chemical warbond but I don't want it either.

[cobalt patrol]

Gas grenades are really good, and i think youre' missing out, but yeah, i'd say grab Freedom's Flame

All the weapons in it are good, iirc it has the Cookout too

which is an excellent shotgun

[steady flame]

Oh, it's not that I think it's bad. It's.. That I have a passionate interest in WW1, so chemical weapons are something that I would not feel comfortable using.

[cobalt patrol]

That is competley valid!

[steady flame]

I'm.. Not actually sure what to say here. I'm not used to that answer.

[ivory swallow]

<@&1206091872716595200> need one more

[unkempt river]

oh, so I'm not enough for you any more? 🥺

[cobalt patrol]

If you're still looking i'll jump in for a bit, but no vox

[ivory swallow]

sure

[ionic holly]

I have found my sole complaint with the wasp

artillery mode feels very inconsistent on fabs

[unreal merlin]

Per a friend's testing, it takes 8 wasp rockets to destroy a fabricator. The launcher can retain one in the chamber if you partial-reload, leading it to have 8 in the next magazine. If you launch an artillery shot, it'll do all 8 and thus enough damage for a fabricator.

[ionic holly]

Admittedly not the damage that's the issue, just have issues with rockets coming short or missing

It's not a deal breaker by any means seeing as i can just use burst and it works
surprisingly well

[odd arch]

what's the purpose of the artillery shot?

[unkempt river]

AoE

[odd arch]

haven't had a chance to play around with the wasp yet

[unreal merlin]

top-down area burst

[odd arch]

is it like an airburst (the stratagems) shell?

[unkempt river]

A very small version, yeah

[unreal merlin]

swarm mode is more-or-less direct fire (it swerves hard out of the launch but goes straight after)
artillery mode launches your entire current magazine straight up into the air and it comes down on top of the target with an airburst

[ionic holly]

Burst also just kinda has nutty levels of tracking

i've seen it miss a target before going for the hardest curve you've ever seen a rocket do

shit reminds me of close range spear

but like

actually still hitting the target and not you

[verbal summit]

Personally I'd wait for the next and see which you like better.if you manage to get 1700 sc then buy something and you can use the 300 scfrom the warbond to buy the next

Oh I didn't reply

[verbal summit]

Meant to reply to this

[ivory swallow]

anyone else wanna hop in? last mission

[unreal merlin]

Tried Wasp a bunch with bots, it's about as I expected: 1-2 shot on any Devastators or Scout Striders, limited usefulness vs tanks/hulks/turrets if the angles play nice for the vents. Pretty useful vs the smaller turrets you encounter in Fortresses or Command Bunkers (2 rockets).

[glad marsh]

I've found it does very very mean things to tank turrets

[unreal merlin]

It probably does great vs Shredder Tanks, though Annihilators I imagine have enough armor that it would need vent hits.

Shredders have awful turret armor.

[quick plinth]

2 taps gunships a lot of the time

[ionic holly]

I've noted 1-2 shotting mortars so that's been fun

[strange vine]

Its 11 shots to kill any tank turret

So in a pinch you can magdump it

[quick plinth]

WASP seems to me like a smart AC equivalent that trades versatility and ammo capacity for the F&F features

I wish that in burst mode the missiles just went UP and down onto the target

because as it stands now, the micro missiles tend to missbehave whenever there's cover

[trim breach]

We killed a Factory Strider with it last night, by team reloading

It took about 1 and a half backpacks

So, probably not that useful, but it was still funny

[ionic holly]

Oh hey i can afford a tier 5 upgrade

yeah payroll management system it is

[rare nymph]

Out of context, that’s a very funny statement

[verbal summit]

2 shot?? Isn't it always 1 shot?

[unreal merlin]

Usually is 1, but certain angles and things like heavy devastator shields can eat up to 3

[verbal summit]

Damn

When I get home I'll find out how much I like it against the other factions.

[unreal merlin]

also not accounting for terrain difficulties, either on your end (congested space like rocks just blocking missiles) or theirs (more rocks, walls, other bots, etc)

[ivory swallow]

What are some good primaries with supply pack + mg 43?

I’ve heard something explosive but I’m not sure

[frosty nexus]

Plasma sniper, your favorite liberator, scorcher.

[ivory swallow]

I see

[frosty nexus]

Really supply pack doesn't matter too much for primaries, you're better off customizing to the enemies you're facing.

[fringe quiver]

One time I spawned in and called in all my stuff.

Just for me to look up and see it all ontop of a big fuckin rock.

I was like, "fuck, guess I don't get my gear for 7 minutes"

Like to be clear

The line was on the ground infront of me

There was just a big rock overhanging above me so high no way I could possibly reach

[shy prairie]

The something explosive would be the eruptor or the exploding crossbow probably. With supply pack you could use the MG for shooting most stuff and blow up bases with your primary + run non-base exploding smoke or stun grenades

[cobalt patrol]

Explosive Crossbow or Purifier would pair well

I'd probably take EX Crossbow, it's my usual pair with a MG support as i can pop fabs/holes/warpies, and is good at mulching mediums or crowds in a pinch

[strange vine]

sometimes you can shoot the pods and itll come down

[fringe quiver]

It was out of sight I think

Like it was so high up

[idle hollow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/877630642232365076/1321282542246170665/hulkdancefloor.mov?ex=676cabc2&is=676b5a42&hm=208b797bc258712fdf192632b8c1fff9e82257ea94676e87a0695f271aaf01db&

[ivory swallow]

What are some good ordinance stratagems for squids?

[upbeat vector]

I like gas and either airburst or gatling

Napalm, too

[ivory swallow]

doesnt eagle strafing run kill a strider in one go?

[stone bridge]

No, but it turns off the shield

[ivory swallow]

I see

[oblique lotus]

cluster

for squids all the armor cracking I need is a laser cannon so the rest of my strategems are utility (OPS) or crowd clear (strafe + cluster)

[frosty nexus]

The only ordnance I'm normally taking to squids is 500kg or atlas shot for quickly killing landed ufos

I feel like orbital gatling might be good though, I need to give that a try.

[ivory swallow]

Atlas shot?

[frosty nexus]

Orbital precision

[ivory swallow]

I see

[ivory swallow]

<@&1206091872716595200> would ayone like to divehellers

[unkempt river]

<@&1206091872716595200> we're back at it

[shy prairie]

dive dive dive

[ivory swallow]

It’s a bit late for me, but I can sit in vc and chill

Mayb one mission

I wanna try out the purifier

[unkempt river]

I hardly know 'er!

[unkempt river]

If I use all of the pips in my supply pack and refill it from a resupply, is it still the same supply pack?

[stark ether]

[oblique hazel]

got room for a 1 more in a bot 9 <@&1206091872716595200>

(squarepeg isn't playing)

[unkempt river]

(doesn't love us Y^Y)

[stone bridge]

<@&1206091872716595200> soon perhaps?

[unkempt river]

mm, maybe later? I just switched off to minecraft

60-90 minutes maybe?

[stone bridge]

sureb

[stone bridge]

I can't stop winning

[verbal summit]

How do people even get an accuracy over 100?

[cobalt patrol]

Multiple hits in one shot

i belive he's using the WASP, which auto locks on and fires a bunch of missiles in one go

[kind cloud]

I mean, yeah WASP is funny as hell

[cobalt patrol]

it's too late i saw your illegal 600% accuracy

[kind cloud]

Crazy show

fired 135 shots, somehow hit 861

[verbal summit]

Damn

Can it multilock or something or did you just fire a lot at 1 target?

I tend to just single fire

Then again I haven't been around since they rereleased the wasp

[glad marsh]

I think it tends to get lucky and other stuff gets caught in the explosions more often than not

[cobalt patrol]

FT for a while had a simialr thing going on

[verbal summit]

Ft?

[cobalt patrol]

Flamethrower

[verbal summit]

Ah

[civic apex]

https://fixupx.com/Helldiversmedia/status/1872116435725828199

least cinematic helldivers death ?

[cobalt patrol]

...

How are 90% of missions ending like that

I do nto belive this number

[civic apex]

yeah I dont either

I just liked the cinamitc feel

halo reach vibe

[unreal merlin]

that's an excellent ending shot
90% of missions ending like that is a skill issue though

granted diff10 extracts can turn out to be some real hell that we've dived into

[verbal summit]

It's just for the post on the socials. Definitely not true but it's a very cool clip

[cobalt patrol]

There was someone trying to be very gatekeepery on a forum i'm on, on "30s shouldnt be in d10s" andi t's just... dude.

Carry more! It's diff 10. it is not That hard with a good loadout

a crazy misison is an excsue to show off

Also my experience is if you're good with pinging stuff, good at encoruaigng your teammates etc, it gets reflected and things go more smothyl

[verbal summit]

I run amr and ping stuff and then sometimes hang back to be the sniper support n stuff.

Take care of mediums n such especially.

Sometimes I'll have a friend go to somewhere while I use a vantage point to support them from with the AMR.

[unreal merlin]

Gatekeeping is so dumb. Go in with an MMG, Orbital Precision, and a liberator. Trial by fire, pop off and get it done.

[supple siren]

Amr makes me want like a stratagem launcher

[verbal summit]

Gatekeeping is dumb anyway. Let em have fun even if they lose.

[supple siren]

Just gimme a wrist rocket

[verbal summit]

What??

Idk how that works

I mean like the brain connections

[unreal merlin]

only the most advanced hardware for the helldivers

[supple siren]

Being 200m away from something and going "sure wish I could throw a gas strike this far" while sniping

[verbal summit]

OOOOOOOHHHH

Yknow what I want from.the AMR?

Longer scopes

[unreal merlin]

Yeah the best you can get is about 75m with a dive throw

not using the throw-armor anyway

[verbal summit]

Yeah

I always run the drip

Tho light armpur

[supple siren]

Lemme sacrifice some max hp for throw range

Robot arm doesn't have to be armor related

[verbal summit]

Lately I've be using drip to match my "role"

So jet trooper drip or heavy infantry with the wasp (still with light wrmour) or some frontliner idea with the energy shield

Tactical person with the laser backpack drone

[supple siren]

The buffs to the jetpack have been so gratifying, especially with flamer or other vaguely-aiming business

[verbal summit]

Car driving person is difficult tho cus like what kinda drip is that? Racer drip? Yeah sure but there's not many racing helmets.

[supple siren]

Lot of motorcycle helmets for some reason

[unreal merlin]

There's one helmet that looks like it's for dirtbike riding

[supple siren]

We keep getting Scout Trooper hats

[verbal summit]

from before they fixed tje aiming thing but still

Meant to reply to the jetpack comment

also this one

Really went from "I'll save you" to both of us dying.

Anyway im excited to play with the wasp when I get home

I keep going on about it but yes I'm just that excited about it.

[supple siren]

god they really perfected the way Helldivers just cartoon explode

every physics interaction in this game is wonderful

[verbal summit]

It is yeah

i need to show yall this

Oh that's the wrong clip but also good

i meant this

[supple siren]

Dark Souls Mushroom Punch on the last one

[verbal summit]

Makes me think of that gif of the character getting punched and bounces around the room.

[verbal summit]

Every time I look at it I chuckle

[cobalt patrol]

Oh no, the mission freebe has changed from Railcannon stireks to... ANTI TANK MINES

[verbal summit]

:3

You mean anti teammate mines