Helldivers 2: For Managed Democracy!

[oblique hazel]

I refuse to think of a system that has "cosmetics" with actual mechanical impact available for premium currency on a 4 day rotation as anything less than predatory

[quick plinth]

new shottie is good

flechettes hit real hard on bugs

ammo is a bit tight however

[cobalt patrol]

Hello. My name is Carry

[quartz cloak]

Right, so, new SMG?
Disgustingly powerful, I love it

I do find it extremely weird that it's SMGs that ended up in the niche of 'slow rate of fire, high damage' with the Defender, the Pummeler, and now this.

[cobalt patrol]

There's a new tab in game now, that you can acess with B, for hte Democracy Space station

[sage plume]

<@&1206091872716595200> anyone wanna dive for some supercredits?

[cobalt patrol]

@sage plume I'll come along shortly

let me join you

[sage plume]

wehoo :D

[cobalt patrol]

i just need to bio break

@sage plume I'm backl. not gonna join on vox

because in a quiewt modo

[sage plume]

np

[graceful bluff]

I'll join ya just need to make breakfast first

[sage plume]

yey more fren :D

[undone veldt]

Oh the new doubt killer armor is literally the Jin Roh armor

https://x.com/iron_s1ghts/status/1851232133710315554?s=46&t=fIUfY3FiRXkmKVbIBdHHIw

IronS1ghts (@Iron_S1ghts) on X

(Leak) UF-84 Doubt Killer Armor
#Helldivers2

Twitter · Oct 29, 2024, 11:58 AM

It even lets you do the whole “keep firing your LMG unflinchingly” thing

[muted burrow]

dang what

400 SC 😔

[odd arch]

makes me think they realized long time players have too much SC even without ever buying it for cash

[muted burrow]

guess i don't play enough.. (ignore the fact i haven't played for the past 3 months until last week)

i know it is silly, but having my requisition go up would do a lot for me, like having something spend it on (SC/smamples)

i just don't like the feeling of one of the currencies i'm "earning" to be thrown out of the window mission after mission, and ship upgrades don't come up often enough

there might be some new strategems actually, but eventually it just caps again

[pastel igloo]

mhm

i don't have anything to spend my requisiton on atm

[blissful sparrow]

you get so much requisition you can buy anything after 1-3 missions anyway, so req are never an issue

i actually really miss HD1 unlocking a bunch of strategems as mission chain rewards

[tight zephyr]

I have nothing to spend my samples on. I’m maxed out.

[cobalt patrol]

Thanmfkully, the DSS should sort that

[pastel igloo]

dss?

[graceful bluff]

I don't like the new jetpack

[cobalt patrol]

Democracy Space Station

[pastel igloo]

oooh

[cobalt patrol]

I mean... you flew yourself right into a wall there

[strange vine]

Skill issue, ragdolling with the jump pack is funny af

[cobalt patrol]

Not sure what you're complaining about

[graceful bluff]

My feet caught a ledge :v

[supple siren]

The tumbling is a marked benefit, very hilarious

[graceful bluff]

also I'm not being serious

[muted burrow]

arrowhead! let me buy super credits with my requisition at a horrible rate and my life is yours!

[supple siren]

I'm onto my last ship upgrade, gonna feel weird having nothin to spend

[hazy oriole]

Anyone given the new armor passive a try? I wanna make sure it aint a launch peak physique issue again

[trail nymph]

Not yet but I’ve seen some rumblings about it being bugged

[hazy oriole]

dammit

[keen zinc]

the new jetpack really messed with my old jump pack muscle memory

its much more oomf forward than upward

so harder to just get on top of things without proper run-up space

[quick plinth]

wasn't peak physique also bugged on release?

[tight zephyr]

I really like the forward momentum of the new jet pack.

[keen zinc]

i do too

but it did mess up my muscle memory for a while

calling all <@&1206091872716595200> , medals must be won, glory must be bitten on, democracy must manifest its destiny

[tall stone]

GO F A S T

[keen zinc]

also new smg medium armor pen

[tight zephyr]

I like the Twigsnapper armor, so being able to yeet myself around is great.

[keen zinc]

my life is good

oh my god it kicks like a horse

what is this firing, .50AE?

i love it

the space UMP

[undone veldt]

So I’ve gotten democratic detonation, and now I’m working towards a new warbond

Y’all think I should grab viper commando or cutting edge?

[tight zephyr]

Most people would say Cutting Edge, but I prefer Viper Commando because I like the armor from it, the stim booster is good and the Liberator Carbine is a nice weapon for bugs.

[keen zinc]

cutting edge

oohh the new shotguns magazines are independent

[undone veldt]

Alright

[keen zinc]

new shotgun is really nice

even if you just keep it on the medium armor pen mode most of the time

being able to swap to a stun is nice

feels like the judge dredd pistol lmao

[royal lantern]

I think Polar Commando has a good argument for it now with all the buffs to its weapons

The armor is kind of a take it or leave it situation though

[undone veldt]

I mean the thing with polar commando is that none of the weapons in it are particularly unique?

They’re good and seem fun to use but I already have access to an assault rifle, a SMG and a pistol with medium (or better) pen

None of them fulfill a niche I don’t already have

[keen zinc]

the verdict is, imo, the best pistol

[tall stone]

It's the stagger smg for Polar, right?

[keen zinc]

ye

[tall stone]

That thing goes nuts with a shield iirc

[royal lantern]

That's honestly fair on all points, though I have come to prefer the tenderizer to all the other assault rifles at this point

The one I know is an impossible sell is Steeled Vets

[undone veldt]

I already have that

[royal lantern]

The Dominator is my favorite primary but it's also buried three tiers deep in an otherwise mediocre warbond

[undone veldt]

I got it when the game came out

[cobalt patrol]

Polar Patroits has both the Purifer and the Verdict

so i dont know what you're on abvovut it not bieng unique

there's nothing else like hte Purifer right now

tbh, just off the strength of it's last page i'd get it

I guess the new pistol is am inipurifer

a mini* purifer

[tall stone]

I do like Steel Veterans for the armor

[unreal merlin]

New buffed purifier is very good, a solid weapon so long as you aren't getting overwhelmed or losing control of the situation

[tall stone]

Wait a second, Breaker Incind is in Steeled Vets. Senator is Page One! If it wasn't for how nuts Cutting Edge is, it'd be my first pick

[undone veldt]

Yah the purifier is definitely the main draw to me rn, but also I just don’t really care to much about it

[glacial light]

Just any sink for requisitions like requisitions to buy samples or convert samples to another sample

[muted burrow]

yess

[glacial light]

Even if you play like 2 missions weekly like I do at times you're always capped OK requisitions and it's only really used for stratagems which don't come out fast enough to ever cause it to dip

[muted burrow]

this this this

[glacial light]

The missions on helldivers aren't the longest but a QoL feature I love is when games let you buy upgrade resources at a bad rate than earning it in mission. It feels bad to me in games so like be a few resources short of an upgrade that would be a big one and change how things work for me but not have enough so I got to do another 30 minutes of game instead of having the option to spend to get it now

Like shop modules being a few samples short of like some of the ones that really have a big impact like +1 eagles for a 500kg user is a big change. And a lot of players time is limited so it could be the difference between ending the days gaming session annoyed that you won't be able to use the ship module today or your last mission you used it and it was so worth it now that you've had a taste of one mission with it

[muted burrow]

mhmmm

any open squads atm?

might play some missions since i can't connect to guilty gear matches for some reason :/

[keen zinc]

https://discord.gg/yBgZnPdE

<@&1206091872716595200> i am once again asking for reinforcements

[hazy oriole]

even the lib concussive aint half bad since it got the drum mag

[quick plinth]

okay, thats busted for bots

bugs not so much because they dont inflict a lot of ranged aim-punch

[glacial light]

It seems a bit underwhelming as an armor perk to me

Compared to stims, grenades, throwing distance, stealth

[hallow gorge]

agreed they should give it a bonus effect like extra limb health or something

[strange vine]

https://youtu.be/mw-bIz8Zeus

[glacial light]

Yea doesn'tbroken arms make your aim just go wild?

Limb health seems very appropriate additon to flinch perk

Always be aiming well whether dying or being shot

[tall stone]

The video gives me a different idea. It'd be nice if it also stopped stimcancelling

[heady halo]

<@&1206091872716595200> anyone down for some dives? or grinds, im prolly gonna alternate for a bit

[tight zephyr]

Sure, just give me a few minutes to make my lunch.

I want to try out the Halt, so grinding for SC would be fine.

[trail nymph]

Can do in about 15 minutes

[fleet jacinth]

I’m up in like, ten minutes

[heady halo]

sweet see yall in a bit

ive only got 80 left for 1k

[tight zephyr]

Ping me when you're ready. I'm just eating lunch.

[trail nymph]

I'm ready to go

[fleet jacinth]

Ah got some issues on my end, I’ll take a bit longer

[heady halo]

<@&1206091872716595200> in ipsn, feel free to join when ready it only takes 5-10 for a mission so u wont wait long

just checking my curry in the oven

[quick plinth]

I'd join, but uni lecture

[heady halo]

lol

[fleet jacinth]

Internet’s back in action

[heady halo]

@fleet jacinth in ssc!

i am gettin no audio from you ai

@fleet jacinth

[fleet jacinth]

guh

[pastel igloo]

ok 700 sc

then i will buy the new bond

[keen zinc]

new plasma pistol very silly

[fleet jacinth]

imma go ahead and keep on grinding super credits

[pastel igloo]

that's what i'm doing atm

at 830 atm

[fleet jacinth]

mind if I join in a bit?

[quick plinth]

I really ought to grind for the superstore(unfortunately abbreviated as SS)stuff

[glacial light]

I thought I was over the red and black with a skull phase but the patriot skin has me questioning

[tall stone]

Good fashion is eternal

[stone bridge]

In what way?

[steady flame]

..Could anyone help me with grinding out some SC? I'm at 445/1000. :(

[fleet jacinth]

ah, doin a mission rn. I can help after it

take maybe 20 minutes?

[steady flame]

Sure.

[keen zinc]

It is a pocket Purifier

Insanely good

Wildly good

[quick plinth]

I'll be there as well ig

[pastel igloo]

got the truth enforcers thing, very good

i really want the free of thought title

[fleet jacinth]

Josie, sorry to say but kinda bogged down with super helldive

[steady flame]

It's fine, something bogged me down too

[quick plinth]

just @ me when yall gather

[fleet jacinth]

roger that

[merry tartan]

new shotgun is actually kinda baller

[fleet jacinth]

aight, I can hop off my curret game

[cobalt patrol]

Simply equip both to have TWIN PURIFIERS

[fleet jacinth]

@quick plinth I am ready for havoc

[merry tartan]

is there room for 1 more

[quick plinth]

sure

[merry tartan]

i need rare samples

[quick plinth]

ah

[merry tartan]

starving

[quick plinth]

we were gonna farm SC

[merry tartan]

need 12 more but I can do SC too

[fleet jacinth]

80 million helldivers dead but 4 billion enemies killed, that's victory in my book

[quick plinth]

https://discord.gg/jzuP9eGe

[pastel igloo]

50:1 kill/death ratio in favor of the Helldivers is wild stuff

[steady flame]

Sorry for taking so long. ><

[quick plinth]

no worries

[fleet jacinth]

no problem

[quick plinth]

spot the anomaly

[keen zinc]

I will join shortly

[quick plinth]

we're doing 1s

[hearty pier]

Stealth pod, so sneaky that the atmosphere doesn't know it's there

[supple siren]

Ghost Pod.. Hauntdiver..

[keen zinc]

"a guy! a guy! a four-legged man!"

• @merry tartan, upon sighting a Factory Strider

evil minions assemblage

[glacial light]

It has strong EDF trooper's "they look just like us" https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/theearthdefenseforce/images/8/87/14364767_490694624473356_4718970558116403293_n.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20160922061052

They have four limbs and use wepaons!

Another jewel of a line
"Why did you get married?"

"Because of my wife"

[undone veldt]

I finally realized why nearly all the SE assault rifles are bullpups

Because being left handed is undemocratic

[glacial light]

Super Earth has removed all concepts of differences between gender and race, but left handed people? People who would require extra R&D money to make ambidextrous that could be used for ammo? That's too far

[undone veldt]

Quite frankly, worse then traitors

[glacial light]

If you're left handed, just use your right hand

[undone veldt]

It’s not that hard

[glacial light]

Me with handwriting that literally hasn't improved since kindergarten and awful at aiming in games

[burnt vapor]

Hey pickaxes are ambidextrous

[undone veldt]

An unfortunate byproduct of the strength of super earth engineering

[glacial light]

Hand carts are also amidextros last I checked

But also a good way to dodge service. Sorry I can't be deployed i'm left handed

[undone veldt]

We’ll make a righty out of you eventually

[north fiber]

hey no pepe emotes pls #the-rules message

[strange vine]

theres literally a little pda you can find on POIs thats a temporary grant to use their left hand to salute after submitting a medical document about their injured right hand

[fleet jacinth]

gonna do late night super credit grinding

[odd arch]

gundog is performing so well in my loadout I'm thinking about swapping my laser cannon for AMR

[strange vine]

https://old.reddit.com/r/Helldivers/comments/1ggisvl/arrowhead_zendesk_has_a_sense_of_humour/

[undone veldt]

Man the chaos divers become way lamer to me when I found out they weren’t doing like, actual RP but were just griefing as protest to arrowhead like, nerfing weapons

I thought they were just a RP group

[tall stone]

Nope

They're just mad.

[undone veldt]

I thought they were bot aligned divers

[graceful bluff]

What constitutes a chaos diver is.. weird

the main one is basically just divers that don't give a shit about the major orders

but some took it to be teamkilly dipshits

[burnt vapor]

the majority are the former from my knowledge the latter are just a very visible and apparent minority

[undone veldt]

I’m happy to hear most of them aren’t griefers but like, idk I still preferred them when they looked like bot aligned divers and not mad guns were nerfed

[graceful bluff]

They're not even specifically aligned with mad the guns are nerfed people

it's more just general "I don't wanna be told to fight a faction I don't find fun"

[burnt vapor]

yeah chaos divers kinda by nature are unaligned they just do what they want without really caring about the meta game

[undone veldt]

Oh

[odd arch]

call me a chaos diver then because I have to be dragged kicking and screaming to the bug front

[burnt vapor]

that means any story you've heard about the chaos divers is probably true about some of them

[undone veldt]

Damn

[burnt vapor]

like the bot guys do exsist somewhere but they aren't the core of chaos divers

[undone veldt]

Use arc rifle

You can stun lock a charger to death

Tase the bastards

[odd arch]

then instead of running in circles I'm walking in circles

[pastel igloo]

saaaame

fuck fighting bugs

[undone veldt]

Honestly I tend to play so aggressively I really like fighting bugs

Like most of my playstyle for both bots and bugs is grabbing the attention of every melee enemy and then running the fuck away while I shoot them with a shotgun

I think I’ve killed more berserkers on the bot front then any other kind of enemy

[strange vine]

im fine with either bots or bugs but bugs are way easier

[undone veldt]

Idk I feel like they can be just as hard

Bile spewers fucking

Hurt

And so many spawn

Also chargers aren’t as bad anymore but they can still sneak up if you’re not looking

[trail creek]

Yo guys I really like the game but I have unbearable lag and unstable 30fps most of my specs should easily be able to handle it but my graphics card is ass (1650 laptop ) do you guys know any settings that could make it bearable?

[glacial light]

I assume no DLSS or FSR?

I know there's a mod to "force" FSR onto older cards and basically does the same upscaling for better frames

[tall stone]

Bugs are good for me to fight now.

[trail creek]

I’m sorry but I’m not tech savvy enough to understand

[supple siren]

Both factions have a lotta fun, they just need to give us a forewarning if it's a Bile Spitter Party

[glacial light]

What is your graphics card?

[trail creek]

NVIDIA 1650 ti laptop version

[glacial light]

Basically it downscale say like 1080p resolution down to 720p then "creates" frames based on an algorithms that make it look sort of like 1080p. So you get usually a hefty frame boost of at least fps cause it's like you're running a 720p game but see close enough 1080p visuals

[trail creek]

I’ll try that but do you think I can run the game with certain settings in game without the mod?

[quick plinth]

me running the game on 720p so I can actually get 60fps

[trail creek]

My laptops screen is 1920 x 1080

[quick plinth]

yeah and so is my desktop screen

but it's either playable framerate or sharp visuals

gotta choose

[trail creek]

Wait so it’s still fullscreen for you?

[quick plinth]

yeah I run it borderless

so it streches the 720p across the big screen

and makes it blurry sure

but I can at least play the game

[trail creek]

Can you send a pic of how that looks?

That might be something I should do

[quick plinth]

of what looks?

the image quality?

[trail creek]

ye

mb

[glacial light]

I would look i'd look up the FSR mod, basically puts FSR2 which does the thing of creating frames while mostly retaining the graphics and mostly meant for AMD cards but the mod makes it work with older NVIDIA cards. It seems compatible with yours

If the game setting has FSR option in it then you don't need to do this but I don't think NVIDIA cards get that option

[trail creek]

it doesn't

[glacial light]

Even ones without DLSS

I'd google specifcally "Helldivers 2 FSR mod" it should be fine for most anti-cheats but that varies per game

[graceful bluff]

Considering the helldivers 2 anticheat is so bad that you can just run cheat engine

[trail creek]

am I cooked if it ever gets upgraded?

[glacial light]

They probably won't ever

Implementing a different cheat engine or even a different engine is super complicated for a multiplayer game

[graceful bluff]

The anticheat is an ancient, incredibly shitty anticheat that basically only ever saw use in shitty kmmos

[glacial light]

AH does not have the resources

[glacial light]

The nexon anticheat too

[graceful bluff]

Incredibly shitty kmmos yes :v

[glacial light]

Like in games like Grand Chase which had it and pay to win grindy game with all the MXT, people would literally use cheat engine to pose as admins and mods

Like you wouldn't know unless the actual person signed in and there's 2 of them now

[graceful bluff]

The only change I can ever see them do in regards to anticheat is remove it now that steam specifically warns that games use kernel anticheat

[trail creek]

ye so I couldn't really find a mod

also you sure it works for Nvidia aswell?

[quick plinth]

FSR works for older Nvidia cards

that's how I played C77 at decent settings

but then again, C77 at this point is incredibly well optimised.

[glacial light]

Yea that's the main audience is Nividia graphics before DLSS was released and ancient AMD cards

I believe there's a general mod that emulates FSR and tricks the game into thinking you have it so it works on almost any game that already has FSR support but game specific FSR mods tend to perform better

[odd arch]

people sing praises of the lossless upscaling program on steam

it's a paid

[quick plinth]

unfortunately HD2 uses FSR 1.0 which manages to both make the game look worse AND run worse

[glacial light]

Oh I see

Pain

[quick plinth]

oh yeah I heard about that

seems good, however, paid? damn

[glacial light]

I used to be AMD fangirl but like DLSS works pretty great if you don't care about the latency and whatnot

I'm not MLG FPS person so I don't notice any differences

FSR 3 if the game supports it is like alright but DLSS generates way more frames with most every game unless the dev specifically optimized FSR

[trail creek]

what exactly is it and do you pay once and then you can use it for any game?

[glacial light]

Oh right that one, yea I believe it's one time pay

[odd arch]

yeah you pay once and it works with nearly anything

it's a separate program that launches the game with... a load of settings I've never really dived into

[quick plinth]

yeah but to use DLSS you need an RTX card and, well, getting a 2000 series card is silly and yet 3000 series is expensive as fuck still

[glacial light]

I thought that was mostly for linux and custom resolutions

Is it?

[trail creek]

how much?

[glacial light]

I do have a 3070TI and it was like $550?

[quick plinth]

7 euro

[trail creek]

I'm getting a 4000

[trail creek]

damn that's cheap af

I'll go look into that

[glacial light]

I say it's worth since apparently set up real easy

[quick plinth]

are you tryna tell me that 550$ for a single component isn't a lot of money?

[glacial light]

Much cheaper than any upgrade

[trail creek]

and its from valve themselves?

[quick plinth]

no

[glacial light]

A component I use frequently on a daily basis and could probably last 10 years if I really wanted?

[trail creek]

I just realized that's a bit more than half of the graphics card I want 💀

[quick plinth]

a single 550 purchase is a lot of money to spend at once

[glacial light]

Sure, but you can save up for it or pay for it over time. You don't have to buy a whole compuiter at once

[quick plinth]

and the insane thing to me ablut that is youre saying you got a 3070TI at that price?

[glacial light]

Yea, my brother has a side business building budget gaming PCs and finds good deals on used parts

[quick plinth]

ah, used

[glacial light]

I think my current card is a RX 7900 GRE though since I traded with my sister in law

[quick plinth]

we do be getting a bit off topic

if you wanna talk PC parts we probably ought to do it in a different chat?

[strange vine]

The main issue with bile spewers imo is not knowing that theyre coming and your loadout isnt geared for them. Any explosive weapon and clear em really well.

Autocannon and grenade launcher for example

[trail creek]

I asked something about pc parts in technical discussions anyway so I think if you want to you can continue talking there

[undone veldt]

Fair yah

I remember having a lot of success with the breaker too

But that was back when the breaker was the best weapon bar none

I don’t really know how good it is anymore

[odd arch]

I continue praying for a disposable MG

[cobalt patrol]

ffffffssss

There is some b ug with too many inputs and too much on screne

that reliably causes some kind of crash to desktop

and when it happens at the nedo f am ission it's real fucking annoying

[muted burrow]

played some diff 7 bugs with some frens, went pretty well

enjoyed the eruptor and stalwart, as well as incendiary mines

[tight zephyr]

I like the standard Machine Gun a lot.

[undone veldt]

So like, all the various player factions are effectively just player groups right?

[pastel igloo]

well yeah, there isn't any distinction in-game

everyone is a helldiver

[sage plume]

<@&1206091872716595200> anyone wanna join us?

[pastel igloo]

you can't just play for bots or nothin

[fleet jacinth]

sure, imma get on

[tight zephyr]

He's going home......

[sage plume]

are you in or do we just have someone else here?

[fleet jacinth]

I was in but then my game crashed

[sage plume]

ah

[fleet jacinth]

that was me in the match lol

[sage plume]

was mildly confused

nw

[fleet jacinth]

ye, seemed like I played then dipped. It's just that my game's been a bit unstable

[sage plume]

thats all good

[fleet jacinth]

imma see if I can rejoin

[sage plume]

i just didnt recognize you, sorry bout that

[fleet jacinth]

naw it's all good

[sage plume]

@twin orchid

[fleet jacinth]

Yep bad crash

[tight zephyr]

Just going full YouTuber here and pointing out the Hunter on his way to space.

[supple siren]

This is how they travel between planets

[steady flame]

https://youtu.be/WUl9NPPMx8s

Fang [He/Him] ↩️

[Reply to:](#1204832579287519292 message) Just going full YouTuber here and pointing out the Hunter on his way to space. 📎

Alt text for the video because Discord and multiple embeds don't play nice: A mall officer waving and saying "Bye, have a great time!".

[tight zephyr]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4t_3wc2jJU

[heady halo]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rITbGRY4zRs

[tall stone]

https://youtu.be/MUL5w91dzbo?si=VKPhGO_AGOpxKERI

[keen zinc]

We have a new codename for factory striders thanks to @merry tartan

Codename: FOUR-LEGGED MAN

Keep this in mind when communicating with your fellow divers.

[strange vine]

https://youtu.be/yM5srgT_6rA

[stark ether]

but can i still change other options on guns?

[keen zinc]

So many people on the subreddit do not understand what an SMG is

To them it's just "small gun"

Calling the Reprimand an assault rifle and saying all SMGs must be one handed categorically

Do people really not know that weapons are called things for more than just video game tropes

[steady flame]

Honestly, I was a bit disappointed the Reprimand was 2H-only, because it broke the trend, but I don't think that makes it an AR. I am curious, what does the Reprimand do uniquely, amongst every other gun?

I mean obviously it has the slap, but like.. Statistically.

[undone veldt]

Can the eruptor kill rocket striders well?

[strange vine]

AP3, highest ballistic automatic fire damage per bullet, very ergonomic

[oblique hazel]

they're biggest weakspot is fully immune to explosive damage, so its not great at it, but I think it still can

[odd arch]

iirc I was one shotting them to the hips

but I could be remembering wrong

[oblique hazel]

Oh does it? I don't use the thing so I might be completely talking out of my ass lol

[cobalt patrol]

Gods

i am having an awful night fioghting bughs

[quick plinth]

I dreamt there was diff 12 bots

hulks and devs were faster than your run and all heavy armor on the front, there were "screamer striders" that just run around and alert everyone once they see you, and I couldn't find any teammates so I just kept dyin.

wild what the human mind can conjure

[pastel igloo]

Lore accurate Malevelon Creek

[muted burrow]

screamer striders are funny

HELP! HELP! HEEEEEEEEEEEELP!!! HUMANS!!!

(in robot language)

[tight zephyr]

https://tenor.com/view/sml-bott-buddy-super-kill-mode-activated-kill-mode-supermariologan-gif-24413506

[cobalt patrol]

Huh, we might actually pull off the mo

Only need 1 more defence, and garacrux is like 60% taken?

[quick plinth]

I imaged them more for psychological warfare than anything, because they look like regular reinforced striders but with no missiles.

but once they see you their head part extends upward and the front unfolds to the side to reveal some kinda abrasive, very much red, angular mouth paint

[glacial light]

HD2 giving players war flashbacks, very immersive

[keen zinc]

Screamer strider spotting a helldiver

https://youtu.be/ITo-WbpANi0?si=Wh-Nvg7Bkt282IfU

[undone veldt]

So what does having a broken body do?

I know broken arms makes recoil worse and legs make it so you can’t run

[keen zinc]

you bleed out

[undone veldt]

Oh

[keen zinc]

democracy protects prevents this

[undone veldt]

I thought bleeding out was a separate mechanic

[keen zinc]

nope

crippled torso is bleed-out

[undone veldt]

Ah ok

[glacial light]

I think arms means your recoil is super strong and aim is worse

Like sway

Legs I think you just can't sprint

Yea torso is bleed out

But also it's been a while, medic armor supply pack gang stim ming up the moment they get hurt.

[keen zinc]

what do you mean losing 24 helldivers raising a flag isnt strategically vital

[cerulean sluice]

God I love how utterly stupid that mission type is

[supple siren]

The enemy response is so funny, they get more angry than when you nuke a nursery

Truly, they despise Democracy

[glacial light]

Hey my democracy officer wants to know your exact location

But also some missions are like kill a bile titan

And once you play the game enough it's like, I have been doing nothing but killing a bile titan every 1 minute for the last 40 minutes

[tall stone]

It's good for getting people used to what kills a Bile Titan at least.

[glacial light]

Oh yes but in lore it's funny to think that like 10 helldivers died trying to kill a bile titan while there's 1 killing 10 every few minutes

But also they're given the same equipment

[tall stone]

Hey, not all Helldivers are created as glorious as the others.

[keen zinc]

bio processors and fuel silos destroyed: send a few light infantry patrols
theyre raising a FUCKING FLAG: i want every dropship we have redirected IMMEDIATELY

[glacial light]

All helldivers are democratic, but some are more democratic than others

That'd be a great quote

We should teach it to the automatons

[tall stone]

https://tenor.com/view/what-do-you-mean-everyone-shouting-gif-15091849

[keen zinc]

they send devestators, they send striders, they send hulks, they send four-legged men...

[tall stone]

Ran into a guy who said that he didn't know what Scout Striders were called yesterday because his main group just calls them "Doug Walkers"

[keen zinc]

calling all <@&1206091872716595200>, today is the day we decide the fate of the major order https://discord.gg/mSTdsB8J

we must take gacrux and hold curia

[glacial light]

In my gaming crew we call them ATATs even though I am aware resemble ATSTs but they don't know star wars

[keen zinc]

two days ago when playing a defense with Havoc and I, varmint said something that shall live in forever in how we identify factory striders

[glacial light]

The factory striders we say big dog, gun dog, or doggo but that also peeves me cause gun dog is the the nickname for the stratagem is

[keen zinc]

in a voice of panicked emphatic sincerity, he stressed: "a guy! a guy! a four-legged man" whilst pinging a factory strider

[glacial light]

I remember you mentioned that and it's still great

But also concerning that four-legged man was a thing they thought of, what have they've seen, what do they know

[tall stone]

Also, the blob has got the defense handled

[keen zinc]

the bloarb

gacrux must be taken

awaken awaken awaken awaken

two more <@&1206091872716595200> needed for the campaign

[quick plinth]

I'll be there in a bit

[fleet jacinth]

I will rise

well differently yalls messages were hours before lol

[fleet jacinth]

okay so I figured out why my game keeps crashing turns out it didn't install right lol

also means I'm gonna have to reinstall helldivers 2 so yayyyyy

[blissful sparrow]

shouldn't verifyng the files be enough?

[fleet jacinth]

ye I just looked at the faq that uh I didn't read so apparently I immediately thought of the nuclear option lol

time to liberate gacrux!

[stone bridge]

Okay the Halt is the best thing since sliced bread

Love this gun

Legitimately, fantastic weapon that rounds out my bug loadout extremely well

Really elevates the Autocannon too, since it makes killing Chargers very very straightforward

[trail creek]

Yo guys how’s the new warbond?

[stone bridge]

Great, I think

The Halt is a superb all-rounder shotty that will slide into a lot of loadouts, the Reprimand I haven't tried out yet but that damage is hilarious

and the Loyalist is a pocket Purifier

[muted burrow]

up to 850 SC now

[hexed steeple]

they put like 50 stim pistol shots in me

[trail creek]

Infinite stamina

[stone bridge]

My current loadout into bugs is like

Halt/Verdict/Gas

Gas Strike/500kg/Flex/Autocannon

and it feels crazy good

Flex I'm not 100% decided on what I want there yet, possibly a big strike or a bit more heavy AT

[graceful bluff]

machine gun turret is always a nice choice

same with tesla

[heady halo]

id also reccomend trying rocket sentry and machine gun sentry instead of flex and autocannon

[graceful bluff]

machine gun turret working as AA is just really nice though

[heady halo]

rockets autotarget heavies

while machine gun protects rockets from infantry

oh thats reggo autocannon not auto sentry, maybe not then

but rockets are a surprisingly good anti bug sentry

if you can get them down with a bit of range from the bugspawn

[graceful bluff]

I just wish the rockets were homing

[supple siren]

Rocket Sentry buffs made it kind of wild honestly, outlandish range

Does love to get stuck firing into a wall now and then though

[undone veldt]

How does the halt compare to the punisher?

Because the punisher is one of my main bot weapons

[keen zinc]

I love the Reprimand and the reworked Scorcher

The Halt is great but it isn't as accurate as the punisher

Has medium pen but half the magazine, plus stuns when you need em

[tall stone]

We got so close, but I never expected to get that close so...

[strange vine]

slightly more versatile but waaaay shoter range since the spread is more aggressive

also less effective ammo since the 2 8-round tubes are split between the stun and flechettes

[undone veldt]

Ah ok

[heady halo]

<@&1206091872716595200> anyone wanna run some missions in a bit?

[trail nymph]

Can do

[heady halo]

niceeee, 15 minutes?

[glad marsh]

We could go for some as well, gotta get some of that sweet SC

[heady halo]

hell yea we can do some sc farm too maybe, but also just run missions and actually take the time to look for sc

i hope one day we get an update that if nothing else increases the per mission length average sc farming chance to match for higher levels

so that its at least roughly kinda equal even if 1s will always have the edge for ease of combat and reduced time that takes

[sage plume]

if i there is still space im down

[heady halo]

anyone can feel free to start a vc and hop in ill be there in a few minutes

[keen zinc]

really wish we could toggle the random grenade belts on this armor

[undone veldt]

https://fxtwitter.com/Pilestedt/status/1852837660785787013

[tall stone]

What a crossover to see

[keen zinc]

"first crossover"

am i stupid

i dont remember a crossover

[spare verge]

I think that might've been astro bot

[stone bridge]

The Stun ammunition makes up for any shortcoming if you're using a weapon like the Autocannon or AMR, imo

Anything that needs time or precision to take out lighter heavy units, the Halt elevates

[undone veldt]

I see

[stone bridge]

It's a worse statstick than the Punisher, it has to be, but I think there's a healthy amount of scenarios where it's the better weapon

[undone veldt]

Admittedly my main concern is the relatively low ammo count for the non stun rounds

Just because of stuff like berserker conga lines

[stone bridge]

Just stutter reload and you'll be fine, imo

[undone veldt]

What’s that?

[stone bridge]

Reload between each shot

[undone veldt]

Ohhhh

[stone bridge]

You have enough time to chamber a new round before the pump cycle lets you fire again

You won't get the timing down every time in a running fight until you get really good at it

But it'll extend your magazine a lot

[odd arch]

me trying to replicate that irl and somehow getting a bent shell stuck inside the internal workings on the wrong side of the gun

[undone veldt]

Look super earth engineering is the best there is

[stone bridge]

It's true

[undone veldt]

Also yah i really wanna try the halt now

Maybe I’ll pick it off a friend’s corpse

[stone bridge]

I'm not normally a shotgun guy but I love versatile weapons

The Halt slides into my loadouts well

[alpine seal]

a trick to improve halt gameplay is rebinding both open weapon wheel and weapon wheel right to the same keybind, and switching open to tap instead of long press - it'll allow you to hotswap between the ammo types with a single keypress instead of having to hold reload

though bear in mind many other weapons, like assault rifles, tend to put semi/automatic fire toggling on the right, so it will mess with that

ditto with autocannon's flak/HE for weapon wheel left, but you can't bind both at once unfortunately

[undone veldt]

Can’t you bind multiple keys to the same action?

So you could bind 1 key to both weapon wheel and swap while still keeping the normal hold for normal guns?

[alpine seal]

you can, which is why it works, but something in the game only prioritizes one in the weapon wheel itself

[undone veldt]

Ohhhh

[alpine seal]

keeping the others the same will still let you hold to switch, just not both at once with a single key press

[undone veldt]

That’s annoying

[alpine seal]

having tried the reprimand, it's pretty much as you'd expect for its statline - an adjudicator sidegrade through and through. compared to adjudicator it can bodyshot troopers and headshot devastators in one round, which gives it a lot of utility on the bot front, but its mag size is even smaller

given it's an SMG it's also much less accurate than its rifle cousins, which is important to note

[undone veldt]

I tried it briefly vs bugs when my friend who was carrying it died but I didn’t really like it’s feel

I like the adjudicator but this thing has even more kick to it

It feels sorta unwieldy

[alpine seal]

it is unwieldy in practice

satisfies some important breakpoints for the bots, which gives it its niche, but i don't see it being a stellar bug weapon

[undone veldt]

Also with it being two handed does it being a SMG really mean anything?

Mechanically it just seems more like an assault rifle

[heady halo]

guns arent defined by how many hands you hold them with , smg means sub machine gun, any shoulder or hip fired gun using pistol caliber ammo is a sub machine gun

assault rifle means...well, variable things depending on jurisdiction, origionally it meant a gun designed to be fired while moving as part of an assault

dont take videogame gun classes as factual

honestly, most legal irl gun classifications arent even "factual"

as they contradict

[sharp crater]

I haven't used the weapon in-game, but I would suspect a heavy SMG would hit about as hard as an AR, but have shorter effective range and worse recoil in exchange for better handling

if it's not the case then 🤷‍♂️ it's all vibes

[heady halo]

really it just means it uses smaller caliber rounds

[sharp crater]

yeah I'm talking pure videogames here

irl be damned

[undone veldt]

Oh yah I know what the terms mean IRL, I just meant in the context of helldivers

[heady halo]

ah sorry

[undone veldt]

Where it was a consistent thing that SMGs are 1 handed compared to all other primary weapons

[heady halo]

i think they phrased it similarly to armor

they want it to reflect what it looks like they would be like if they were real, rather than have videogame class systems

so they wont do sleek heavy armours or chunky scout armours

[undone veldt]

That’s fair tbh

Looks and lore wise it’s definitely still a SMG

Just a really chunky one

[glacial light]

All this time and I haven't really looked into what makes a SMG a SMG, vs say automatic pistol with extended mag and stocks like how tricked out a tech 9 could be modded to like triple it's weight

More attachment than gun

[undone veldt]

I gotta imagine at a certain point it graduates from pistol to SMG

You can only add so many features before it changes its description

[heady halo]

in reality, the only difference is what you call it

theres no hard and fast system

its like cars

realistically, whats the difference between a heavy mpv and a light truck

[glacial light]

If semi-circle is half a circle, whyis the semi-truck bigger than a truck

[heady halo]

and thats why american pickups look like that

[strange vine]

In terms of bullet it uses the exact same one as the verdict (the not!deagle)

[alpine seal]

ohhh that explains a lot actually

[undone veldt]

oh neat

[steady flame]

So it is literally just a primary auto-Verdict? Is.. Is it good?

skaianDestiny ↩️

[Reply to:](#1204832579287519292 message) In terms of bullet it uses the exact same one as the verdict (the not!deagle)

Because it's called a semi-trailer truck, since the trailer can't support itself whilst moving.

Sevens Ate... (Her/She) ↩️

[Reply to:](#1204832579287519292 message) If semi-circle is half a circle, whyis the semi-truck bigger than a truck

I hope that helps.

[keen zinc]

yes it is good

[strange vine]

i find it enjoyable to use, but youll definitely feel the lower ammo count compared to other full autos

[keen zinc]

i am a big fan of it

[strange vine]

semi or burst might be better, but i like it

[keen zinc]

burst is gut

[steady flame]

Does it use Verdict mags?

[strange vine]

good close quarters sidegrade to adjudicator

it has 25 rounds

[steady flame]

That's not a terrible mag size, but it's also not fab. What's its burst length?

[keen zinc]

it is a UMP

3 round burst

HK needs to stop being cowards and make the UMP50 in .50AE or .50GI

[steady flame]

With.. 25 rounds? 24 fine. 21? Ehh. 27? Nice. But 25? That's not a multiple of three!

Pantsko the Wearable ↩️

[Reply to:](#1204832579287519292 message) 3 round burst

[keen zinc]

it has a very slow reload so having one in the chamber to cut out the charge and slap saves like a full second

ngl this fit hits

<@&1206091872716595200> i summon you to play helldivers 2 with me

@merry tartan stop playing with your Plastic Man and play with me

the resinous foe...

[merry tartan]

noo

[keen zinc]

🖕

[keen zinc]

<@&1206091872716595200> we need 2 more patriots

stream leech is just stream leeching

[feral iron]

stream leech never counts!

[fleet jacinth]

I can get on in a bit, tylenol needs to kick in for my headache

Shit, can’t get on. Helldivers keeps causing my PC to crash

[stone bridge]

best killstreak so far

thank you gas

[muted burrow]

[south temple]

quad constitution + battlemaster gaming

it was so peak

[trail creek]

I mean tbf sleek heavy armor would be cool

[unreal merlin]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1208390071074562139/1302915787367124992/4A129C13-E70D-4C4E-9A89-DDFC0219A386.png?ex=6729da62&is=672888e2&hm=706637de0b60dad3ce5ebd6cd9dc14df64cd097ad2844fc0a50a9bb872be07c0&

The new SMG hits like a truck but with the accuracy of a musket

[quick plinth]

if you spray it yeah

2 round burst / semi auto use works fine

[stone bridge]

recoil reduction armour also helps immensely

[unreal merlin]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Helldivers/comments/1ginai8/reprimand_the_least_accurate_nonshotgun_gun_in/
It's remarkable

Single shots that deviate far off to the side like they forgot to rifle the barrel

[quick plinth]

huh

[cobalt patrol]

Huh. That's... wow, huh, that's werid, i dont rember noticing that using it myself

[royal lantern]

I have to imagine this is someone entering one number in how it calculates dispersion wrong

A 5 instead of a 0.5 or something to that effect

[cobalt patrol]

ffff

There is osme werid CTD gbug i kleep getting

when i die atr the end of the mathc

[trail nymph]

Glad to see I’m not crazy for thinking the spread on that smg was atrocious

[quick crown]

External TREATS

[keen zinc]

Honestly probably for the best for them to move out of those planets

[tight zephyr]

And give ground to the bots?!

[strange vine]

its bugs

[tight zephyr]

I know what I said.

[undone veldt]

I think we’re using a smooth bore SMG

[glacial light]

Smooth bore isn't inaccurate enough, I want rough bore rifles

[odd arch]

random deviation bore

[glacial light]

Pachinko bore

[keen zinc]

Sprinkler head muzzle

[odd arch]

flexible barrel

[pastel igloo]

sawed off barrel

[glacial light]

Double no barrel shotgun

It's just a handful of gunpowder

Or you aim the bullet with your hand then tap the back with a hammer real hard

[glacial light]

Amazing

[undone veldt]

I found out what gun the reprimand was based off

[fleet jacinth]

lol

[keen zinc]

It's based on the UMP

But it do have silly spread value

[undone veldt]

I know but the patriot’s lack of a stock and literally firing bullets whole does match with the reprimand’s stats

[fleet jacinth]

Legit the only thing I'd want changed to the reprimand is lower recoil

[heady halo]

<@&1206091872716595200> anyone down for for some dive in a bit? currently waiting for a headache pill to kick in

god maybe im feeling worse than i thought. sorry for bothering yall with a fradulent call to democracy lmao

[cobalt patrol]

True democracts take care of their health 🙂

[glacial light]

I also vote for healthcare

[tight zephyr]

Love when I get a SEAF arty site on a bug mission that is, I shit you not, four smokes and a static.

[oblique hazel]

Seaf static is suprisingly nice, but I legit think seaf smoke is the most useless thing in the entire game

iirc its the same size as fucking smoke grenades

maybe smaller even

it feels smaller

[tight zephyr]

Static is fine but I only got the one and the rest was smoke.

[glacial light]

The SEAF definitely got left behind by the buffs

[tight zephyr]

Maybe that's why the state you typically find them in is "horribly dismembered."

[keen zinc]

i mean i do gotta say

the only thing anyone ever wants to find is mini nuke, high yield explosive, and explosive

removing the other shells would be a straight upgrade

[tall stone]

Napalm.

[tight zephyr]

Napalm is fine too.

[spare verge]

Vernen Wells gets really aesthetically pleasing around sunset

didn't get a picture but it was a gorgeous pink-purple before the sun set

[tight zephyr]

My current Helldiver has survived five missions in a row and I’m getting paranoid.

[tall stone]

A veteran

[undone veldt]

Holy shit the differences of protect valuable assets on bots and bugs is insane

I’ve consistent been overrun by bots by rocket 3

But for bugs I could alt tab and only come back to occasionally throw more sentries down the entire time

[tall stone]

Recoiless will help on the bot one. Reliably takes out dropships

[hearty pier]

Two RR users means you only end up needing to clear a few dropships worth of bots each heavy wave which is pretty trivial really

[undone veldt]

Honestly I have a weird kinda pet peeve with a lot of helldiver animations posted to YouTube is that they make the helldivers a bit to competent

I think it’s sorta part of their charm they kinda suck

[cobalt patrol]

Helldivers are weird in that i think a lot of mitlaires wold (kill to have soliders this capable, at the same time as viewing the helldiver loss rate as paplling (Helldivers have 2 minute lifespan, that's offiacl)

Ultamteily, a lot of this stuff is It's a Game - like our accuracy numbers are insane by real world standards

[undone veldt]

Yah any and all competency shown in helldivers is primarily just from players

[cobalt patrol]

To quote @hexed steeple upon spectating some ofm y antics "They're gaming! Look at this gamer!"

Usually right before i die hilariously after doing a chain of badass things

(i'm vconvinced no one complains about my death count in games because they see all the crazy bullshit i couple it with)

https://old.reddit.com/r/Helldivers/comments/1gjiua3/would_it_kill_the_bugs_to_invade_a_nice_planet/

[shy prairie]

too true

but also darn these guys have so many habitable planets

[strange vine]

i think theres room for helldivers being competent while also sucking. Like this one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8l5ug_OEhI

where he manages to snipe every bot and then ||get snuck up on by a patrol and dies offscreen||

[tight zephyr]

The game does make you feel ten feet tall and invincible when you’re running on all cylinders, though.

This illusion rarely survives extended contact with the enemy.

[undone veldt]

yah I really like that one

[north fiber]

Half of the feeling is knowing just how dangerous the enemy is imo

[cobalt patrol]

I love the wayh the trooper helps out

[north fiber]

Nailing a group of 6 Devistators with an HE Recoiless feels great because I know exactly how dangerous the pack is

[cobalt patrol]

Just because you're goiing to murder someone is no nreason to be rude

[glad marsh]

yo <@&1206091872716595200> anyone up for an op or two?
maybe just some SC farming?

[winged hearth]

maybe in a bit, got some night stuff i gotta take care of first tho

ill msg when I'm available

[quick plinth]

I got one person in my squad already, after this defence I'll just make a lobby here

[glad marsh]

[quick plinth]

5 more rockets left

[glad marsh]

we're just gonna do a quick level 1 mission to get a few SCs

[cobalt patrol]

<@&1206091872716595200> got room for 1 more for D10 bugs

[quick plinth]

looking for one more <@&1206091872716595200>

[feral iron]

stream leech doesn't count remember!

[winged hearth]

ill join in later

ill msg when

just gimme a bit

[glad marsh]

Man, we were really off our game tonight
Apologies folks

[quick plinth]

not really

we did most of the missions no problem and then choked a tiny bit at the end

no worries

[glad marsh]

we're just used to being able to be more helpful and not miss our shots as much :b

Those flags are rough though, geez

[quick plinth]

happens

[winged hearth]

<@&1206091872716595200> is anyone up for a game rn? I can do whatever so long as its not too long

[odd arch]

can't believe they released the constitution without a bayonet charge

[strange vine]

the gloom appearing in the skybox 👀

[odd arch]

shoot it

[keen zinc]

no dont

do not provide an attachment point for spore accumulation

[undone veldt]

I’ve been doing nothing but shoot gloom for the past 3 days

[burnt vapor]

Can we burn it?

[tall stone]

Fire doesn't work in space

[burnt vapor]

That depends on what you’re using if you can supply oxidizer it should burn just fine

[cobalt patrol]

M O A R P L A S M A

[undone veldt]

Doesn’t plasma need oxygen too?

[trail nymph]

Why aren’t we developing space napalm

[cobalt patrol]

If we supply sufficent plasma, space will self-oxygenize.

that's just science.

democratic science.

[undone veldt]

I see

[glacial light]

Terraform an atmosphere in space so we can set it on fire

[plucky loom]

Only the "Fire" variety, IIRC.
Otherwise you just need heat.

[undone veldt]

Ah cool

[glacial light]

Sun I believe is a ball of plasma

Plasma is a state of matter where electrons can move between with very little resistance or need for chemical reactions such as hydrogen like gas+

And that's not good if it touches you cause plasmas tend to be real hot but also your body likes having electrons in a certain place and doesn't want more

[glad marsh]

So in other words
Plasma electrons want to be friends?

[glacial light]

Plasma electrons don't believe in private ownership of atoms

It's our electrons atoms comrade

[glad marsh]

I never thought our plasma would betray our political alignment like this...

[glacial light]

Lightning is a plasma

You see we're using Arc and Blitzer to show the bots that they're wrong by fighting fire with fire. If they're so right why are they destroyed by particles following their ideas?

[glad marsh]

Truly enlightening

||or enlightninging?||

[trail nymph]

<@&1206091872716595200> Who’s up for a bug hunt?

[glad marsh]

me! me!

[trail nymph]

Excellent I’ll be on in about 10 minutes

[sage plume]

ohh same here

[trail nymph]

Ready

[glad marsh]

just doing a quick SC farm and we'll be in

[alpine seal]

i have to wonder how many times estanu has been under attack

[fleet jacinth]

back we go for managed democracy

[glad marsh]

<@&1206091872716595200> we got room for two more here!

[heady halo]

im in

[oblique hazel]

what diff?

[fleet jacinth]

gonna hop on and see if my game crashes

[sage plume]

@wide star WE JUST GOT A SPOT

[wide star]

i actually need more like 5-10 min so mayb start without me if anything

[fleet jacinth]

90.6 accuracy, I think that's the highest I've ever gotten

gonna go and do some super credit grinding to get that new armor

in the shop

[cobalt patrol]

I'm really going off Flamethroweri nto bugs

the add clear is good, but the risk//reward is badly skewed

and you're pincered by both teammates AND bugs

[stone bridge]

Huh, really?

[trail creek]

I love flamethrower

Is there a weapon that does something similar like flamethrower to bugs but to bots?(area denial, big damage etc)

[unreal merlin]

Gas, either grenades or orbital. I don't think the sterilizer has been range buffed like it needs to be useful yet

Also I like crossbow. Purifier (the charge plasma rifle) serves a similar capability. Both can nuke squads of raiders

[cobalt patrol]

Basically in bugs it comes down to the lethality isn't there too compensate for how fragile you are. Even in heavy armor you go down to a few hits from alpha warriors. And they're everywhere on D10 because alpha Commanders are everywhere.

You're also pigeonholed into fire proof armor, which doesn't actually protect you that well. (Esp vs the best fire strat, Napalm Barrage). Likewise you need either a Jetpack or shield pack too help your survivability

Or another way to put it might be it's much easier to pack a loadout with anti chaff and take a rr that crushes any heavy unit on the field, but the inverse isn't true. And those loadouts can get away with light armor and just going shits hairy? Drop gas, pop stim, drop a machine gun turret, zoidberg into the distance

Tldr: I feel safer and more effective using a light armor + RR based setup than any flamethrower + X combo I've found

[stone bridge]

Hmm okay

[cobalt patrol]

This is just my current experience. It's also possible it's a product of playing with randos almost exclusively, and the RR loadout I run is a lot more self reliance

While flamethrower needs to lean on trusted teammates to really shine

[fleet jacinth]

ngl I'm actually having pretty good fun just filling in support weapons/attack strategems my team's missing

though your strat, Zombie, definitely do work and have carried me through difficult bot missions

[unreal merlin]

RR is very independent and powerful

And then you do a bot defense mission with two plus RRs team loading each other and don't even have to fight the enemy because you gun down all their dropships

[fleet jacinth]

even better if you call in rocket turrets and a shield, I'd imagine

I was about to say that might be overkill but no kill is overkill when it comes to spilling oil

[unreal merlin]

I like the mg turret. Amazing at clearing out anything devastator sized or below, and then you just AT whatever tank or hulk survives

[oblique hazel]

I love MG turret into bugs

its a super flexible piece of horde clear, that also tears through my beloathed shriekers

[unreal merlin]

Just a really good tool. Throw it off to the side before engaging and it splits their attention

[oblique hazel]

it + gas strike just fully shuts down breaches

[fleet jacinth]

Yep!

[cobalt patrol]

I should really try it into bots. My current bots loadout is RR/Gas/Shield/500kg

[unreal merlin]

Not a bad kit, I'd trade the shield away for it. Shield is cool and all but you kinda need the other stuff

[cobalt patrol]

Shield hasp icked up and carried so many missions

I'd actually throw away the gas over it

since i also run gas grenades

[unreal merlin]

Maybe gas if you're competent in clearing- yeah

That's a fine candidate too then. I really value orbital gas but if you're running grenades then you can do without and mg turret will fill a similar role anyway

If you throw it off to the side before a fight breaks out it almost guarantees you win that fight without effort

[cobalt patrol]

Yeah. I'll givei t a play

i value shield too much into bots to drop it though

like the sheer amount of crap i've saved my teams from

it's insane

[stone bridge]

My honest opinion is that, of that list

I'd drop the 500kg

You just don't really need it into bots ime

[unreal merlin]

Now that I think again yeah, if you're already carrying RR you don't need an airstrike

Loadouts are so flexible

RR/MG turret/gas/shield is perfectly fine

[cobalt patrol]

On the otehr hand

SPOLISON

Also it works for me

tbh, i dont think i need to drop anything form that list

[hazy oriole]

bwughhhhhh

getting all those defenses done is gonna be an ouchie

I miss my bot front

[strange vine]

the defenses likely wont matter as much as keeping the specified planets up

[oblique hazel]

what grenades do y'all recommend on the bug front for clearing holes?

[glad marsh]

Incendiaries are pretty nice

Though if you miss, it's a bit of a problem

As for any timed grenade I suppose

You can pretty much use whatever (besides gas a stun I think) and it should break holes

[hearty pier]

Frags give you an extra now so can be worth it if that's the hole in your kit

[strange vine]

Frags are genuinely pretty good now

[supple siren]

Having 7 of them with grenade armor feels very empowering, s'nice for the bonus recoil for the new SMG

[wind arrow]

meanwhile, izen: just bring stun and hose spawned bugs down then use explosive support weapon

[oblique hazel]

I bring an RR into bugs rn, so I don't really want to be wasting ammo on holes with that

[wind arrow]

ah

[shrewd tiger]

<@&1206091872716595200> Got room for 2 more in Helldivers (Vulture isn't playing)

[oblique hazel]

I can join in like half an hour if y'all still need 1

[wide star]

sounds nice

[wide star]

(one dude here isn't actually playing)

[trail creek]

I’m usually playing with friends so one guy who has played the most uses single target plasma weapons and the other one uses standard assault rifles n all I can just BURN everything, flamethrowers have actually made my (usually very low) survival rate go up

[trail nymph]

Useful information about the dead sprint booster you can’t die from using it

It has a cut off at about 5% health

[fleet jacinth]

and then you can just stim and sprint even more

[trail nymph]

Also works with vitality booster

[fleet jacinth]

nice

Also stim infusion sounds great with it

I should get viper commandos next, probably

that or the chemical warfare one cause gas grenades

[trail nymph]

I would recommend viper commando first then chemical agents

[fleet jacinth]

👍 roger that

[cobalt patrol]

If viper ocmmandos is the one with Experimental Infusion, it's worth it for that alone

[trail nymph]

Yes it is

I will also make an argument that the peak physique armours are also worth getting

[stone bridge]

I actually think Viper Commandos is kinda low value overall, mostly due to Throwing Knives being terrible, and the Carbine + Bushwhacker being Okay TM

Unless you really need Experimental Infusion for your playgroup, I'd buy something else

[fleet jacinth]

interesting

[trail nymph]

I will agree that the carbine is lacking but the bushwhacker in my opinion is the second maybe third best sidearm in the game

[stone bridge]

It's a point blank burst damage firearm with AP2 - unless they've buffed it since I wasn't looking, it's in a weird limbo of a niche

[trail nymph]

Not sure if it’s been buffed but it feels like it has more stopping power than before

It will decap a 10 alpha commander and that’s good enough for me

[stone bridge]

I guess my experience is partially coloured by maining Autocannon into bugs there

Since that decaps commanders on a clean APHET headshot at any range

[fleet jacinth]

really? always takes me two

...I am once again reaffirmed I have shit aim lol

[stone bridge]

You need to aim for the center of the head

If you hit the crown, it'll take 2

[fleet jacinth]

ah k, swear I've been hitting though...

eh

[unreal merlin]

I can second the "it only takes one clean hit". It's gotta be a really centered hit though

[cobalt patrol]

I wanted to like it, but it's too slow to reload

[stone bridge]

Yeah it takes practice

[cobalt patrol]

It's the main thing that puts me off using the bushwacker.

Range isnt great into bots, andi t's too slow to reload vs bugs

[stone bridge]

Yeah that's been my experience too, by and large

[unreal merlin]

The new Halt shotgun seems pretty cool.

The stun rounds being EMS type stun instead of concussion makes it super good crowd control

[stone bridge]

I think it's legitimately real good

[steady flame]

Stun rounds are fab for giving you time to reload flechettes.

[sage plume]

<@&1206091872716595200> dive time?

[wide star]

i sadly kinda can't right now

[trail creek]

Yo guys

What order would you recommend the war bonds in?

[sage plume]

personally id say cutting edge first

[wide star]

I'd recommend steeled veterans but yeah that is also an option

[sage plume]

then yeah steeled veterans

but its more personal preference

[pastel igloo]

I kinda want to grind for a new warbond but i already don't have any fucking medals to spend on the ones i have available lol

[sage plume]

then grind we do

[trail creek]

I like the blood hound armor but my play-style is just setting everything around me ablaze with bugs and

Wait no for bots it could be useful

[trail creek]

What does the cutting edge armor do btw, like is it worth using?

[sage plume]

its less for the armour its more the weapons that carry the warbond, especially the stun grenade that sadly has no ability to destroy things but its utility is amazing, and the sickle is great

[sage plume]

but yeah tangent aside stops electric weapons from killing you AS fast

[trail creek]

Ah

What enemies deal electric damage?

[pastel igloo]

I've been utterly taken with the DP-00 Tactical armor

Been running it with the Battle Master helmet

[trail creek]

I mean they look fire

Also I recently saw a plasma rifle with a really high fire rate, anyone know what warbond it is in? (The one from a premium one)

[sage plume]

so far none but teammates do so its more for that for now (hopefully we get more varied damage from enemies rather then minimizing the chance of teamkilling)

[pastel igloo]

My friend got obliterated by the electric tower thing so hard one time he ragequit

[trail creek]

Tesla tower be like that

[trail nymph]

The plasma purifier is in polar patriots

[trail creek]

Alr thx

Ye that one

[trail nymph]

I’d also recommend the loyalist in truth enforcers if you want a pistol version

[trail creek]

Nah, I’d rather have the revolver or deagle or grenade pistol there

Also is the primary flamethrower good or should I stick to the stratagem

[trail nymph]

It’s okay not as good as the strat version

It has a very short range

[pastel igloo]

I'm itching to get the truth enforcers title thing

[trail creek]

Something something to think?

[trail nymph]

But is a good choice if you want to keep an aoe weapon will having a different strat

[trail creek]

Ah

Alr thx

I think I’ll stick to the stratagem for now as it allows me to not constantly die

[trail nymph]

Free of thought is the title

[trail creek]

Ah

Mb

I’ll read up on all the titles

Truth enforcers the gas one, cutting edge and democratic detonation all have some real cool armor

[stone bridge]

The Torcher is pretty fantastic if you can handle its quirks - it's no full flamethrower, but it still burns hordes very well, kills spewers very efficiently, and leaves your support weapon slot free

I like to pair it with the Quasar Cannon, usually

[trail creek]

Ah makes sense

[stone bridge]

Torcher/Verdict/Impacts, 500kg/Gas Strike/Quasar/backpack of choice is a plenty flexible loadout that's great into BTs in particular

Since the Quasar one taps to the head with infinite ammo, and the free backpack opens you for stuff like Guard Dogs or a Jump Pack

[trail creek]

I like the rover

Also what rifles and other weapons do you recommend for a very aggressive play style?

[stone bridge]

If you want to go crazy with it, I'd probably go Eruptor or Crossbow/Stalwart/Jump Pack, grab Thermites to deal with heavies

Then just kinda jump around shooting shit

Primary is really to taste, but the specialist ones have the least overlap with the Stalwart and let you close bug holes without needing to use a Grenade Pistol secondary

[trail nymph]

Sickle/Dagger/Thermite
ORS/OGB/Railgun/GD-Las

[trail creek]

Alr thx

[hazy oriole]

does the laser cannon work on bugs? I remember trying it a while back and struggling to even kill a regular charger

[twin orchid]

not really

it bounce of theur shells

even medium bugs

[hazy oriole]

i swore it had medium pen

dagnabbit

[tall stone]

It does work on Medium bugs and can strip charger legs/set them on fire

[odd arch]

it works ok enough if you know the ideal target on every bug but it's not as bombastic or efficient as other ammo limited options

much better on bots

[hazy oriole]

if you've got a list of said ideal targets i'd love to hear em

yeah ive got a hankering to use the thing but i also wanna contribute to the mo

[tall stone]

Impaler - Face
Charger - Front Legs
Bile Titan - Right in the mouth

[hazy oriole]

how long does the bt and charger kill take?

[strange vine]

Laser cannon works fine, has AP4 so it can punch through basically all bug armor, but the issue is its a bit slower dps/burst damage wise and there arent many precision targets that take advantage of the beam. The fact it sets enemies on fire does help

[strange vine]

Since they reduced bug armor from 5 to 4 this isnt true anymore

Damage does get reduced by 65% tho

[hazy oriole]

Do these weakpoints also apply to the HMG? if so, it'd explain why i've had such a hard time using it on bugs

[tall stone]

A long while.

[hazy oriole]

bweghhhhh

[tall stone]

But also you don't really have to care about that.

Or you could bring OPS

[hazy oriole]

technically true, i've been caught with my strats on cooldown too many time around those fuckers to be completely reliant on em for bug heavies

[strange vine]

HMG, AMR, AC, and LC have the same AP4, yes

[hazy oriole]

gotcha
are the ttks on charger legs and bt mouths any good with the HMG?

[tall stone]

Ehhhh

[hazy oriole]

bugger

it's going to be hard tp wean me off the hard AT on bugs

[tall stone]

I enjoy killing hordes. Helps the AT folks focus

[hazy oriole]

i might have asked this already but is there any reason to bring HMG over MMG on bugs? It feels like the latter is overall better in the niche most folks use the HMG for

[glad marsh]

HMG deals with bile spewers really well, and you can damage anything (shooting a charger in the leg a bunch for example, is pretty good as killing them)

Buuuuttt

You have to probably bring a supply pack and account for the rather sluggish stationary reload

Regardless, I think HMG is pretty good into bugs, but you can be just as successful with the MMG. You just can't attack heavier targets nearly as well, so you're more on horde clearing duty

[undone veldt]

Honestly it’s very telling the adjudicator’s 30 round mag is considered small by super earth standards

[hazy oriole]

Hit level 100, thought I'd post stats here

[heady halo]

hell yea thats a victory

also, love how the hat comes with a naruto headband

[trail nymph]

Welcome to the triple digits now the real climb begins

[glad marsh]

<@&1206091872716595200> anyone down for an op or two in a bit?

[fleet jacinth]

sure

[cobalt patrol]

What diff?

[glad marsh]

I'll play literally anything

So... Depends who shows up in the lobby really

[cobalt patrol]

Well, ican be convinced to run d10 buggles

though i need to get my meds and shit first, brb

[fleet jacinth]

shit my game is not performing well rn

[cobalt patrol]

Actually, soprry, looking at things i need to do some RL stuff for a bit, more than just meds. Apologies

[glad marsh]

We wish you the best

[fleet jacinth]

🫡

[glad marsh]

Booting up now, I should have the lobby up soon

lobby is up, as is VC

[heady halo]

yall in mission yet?

[quick plinth]

@loud lava

you up to join us bestie?

[heady halo]

i was abouta join in but they are welcome to the spot instead lmao

[quick plinth]

oh wait

[quick plinth]

sorry

[heady halo]

i should probably sleep sooner

ya good lady

play whit ya bestie!

(if she aint around tho, ping me, and i think i got one game in me)

[glad marsh]

we are not, but if Jeepers is joining then it does mean we're full unfortunately

[heady halo]

👍 ping me if she isnt but no stress if she is

[oblique hazel]

if another spot somehow opens up I can also hop in for a mission or two