Helldivers 2: For Managed Democracy!

[tight zephyr]

The Tenderizer rules now.

Might be my favorite gun.

[strange vine]

PATRIOT ROCKETS GO WHERE I AIM

also they can shoot downwards now

[stone bridge]

The downward shooterrrrr

Okay so mechs confirmed fixed, that's good

[honest acorn]

I should try them out again

[stone bridge]

The gatling round also got buffed

[honest acorn]

Ironically the weird shooting never bothered me (in fact I never noticed it) but the way it was impossible to survive a mech death and it would usually despawn your backpack and samples suuucked

[strange vine]

i managed to survive a mech death

i think its purely because you get lit on fire

that you die

given the changes to fire damage to helldivers i think theyre more survivable now

[honest acorn]

I think it may have been a related bug yeah

I’d get set on fire and be getting out and then just snap dead

[stone bridge]

It's almost certainly related to tick damage having an uncapped number of times it could hit you per second pre patch

[daring monolith]

tenderiser is real nice now

very much enjoy it

[tall stone]

The lack of insta flame death has been nice

[supple siren]

Good goddamn these buffs are satisfyin', and I love the motor function armor

[keen zinc]

motor function?

https://www.rxddit.com/r/Helldivers/comments/1df9yk6/first_thing_i_needed_to_try_after_reading_the/

oh fuck

[supple siren]

The new 'aim faster' buff I forget the name

[stone bridge]

Peak Physique

It's on the new armours

[keen zinc]

from what ive seen on the reddit

it doesnt seem to actually do anything

from video comparisons

[supple siren]

:|a Then I guess the crossbow just feels great regardless

[keen zinc]

it is a fashion win tho

[stone bridge]

They'll hotfix it I'm sure

[cobalt patrol]

The reddit video comparsion was shit though

actively deciving

to the point that even the mods went "Wtf" and flagged it as misleading

Ah, there is a second one that shows there doesnt appear to be a differnece htough

i'd seen the one that was just bizzare

shrug i am going ot wait for more word and more testing because i don ot trust reddit to b e sane at all with this stuff

[keen zinc]

That's the one I was talking about

[cobalt patrol]

Yeah, sorry for leaping to conclusions

[glossy horizon]

Did Bots have different paint jobs before? I noticed some white-ish painted bots in my games

[cobalt patrol]

SOmething's changed with their shaders

[stone bridge]

They changed some kind of lighting, I think

Yeah

[cobalt patrol]

and that's made the bots a lot glossier

[stone bridge]

<@&1206091872716595200> any divers in the chat?

[cobalt patrol]

Sure are!

I need like 10-20 minutes though?

Gotta put some washing out

and grab my evening meds

[stone bridge]

No problem, that's ideal

[orchid pulsar]

yeye

[short rune]

Has anyone unlocked the knife yet?

[cobalt patrol]

Not persoanlly, scuttlebutt is it's pretty mid

[short rune]

It's only throwable, yes?

[ionic holly]

I believe cyan packed some notes from the grape vine

8(?) total, high single target damage, not retrievable, can possibly crack charger legs, take that last one with two shakers of salt

[short rune]

It also apparently doesnt work as melee weapon.

Sad

Guess I have to wait for bayonets or so then

Bashing is still not particularly effective even with the commando armours

[stone bridge]

The Bushwhacker is nasty

If you need a last ditch defensive weapon, set the thing to unload all three barrels in one click and you can one tap Stalkers

[short rune]

Looking forward for that one then. I imagine it goes great with the shield?

[stone bridge]

I guess it depends on what you mean by "goes great", it's definitely not something you can use for extended periods

You can shove it in people's faces more reliably but Helldivers shotguns don't really require you do to that

[ionic holly]

It's a holdout weapon, not a pathfinder

[short rune]

So perfect as a sidearm

[stone bridge]

It's a great burst damage compliment to something more sustained I think, yeah

Setting it to the tri-barrel fire mode is 1215 damage in one trigger pull

[short rune]

Oh lord

[stone bridge]

Not much that can really match that

[short rune]

Thats more than the eruptor.

[stone bridge]

By a factor of about 2.2x, yeah

[short rune]

So it one-hits hulks?

[stone bridge]

Well, no

It's light armour pen and has no explosive properties

[cobalt patrol]

It might crack their vents, since iirc hulk vents are pretty low armor

but you have to get around behind the hulk

[short rune]

Hulk vents are not even medium IIRC?

[stone bridge]

What it will shred to mincemeat is anything bug shaped

[short rune]

I know they were medium at some point at least

[stone bridge]

Ah yeah, the heatsink is super lightly armoured

Light 1

Which means pretty much anything goes through it

[cobalt patrol]

@stone bridge @orchid pulsar I am freeee

channel setup and everything

[stone bridge]

Be there shortly, bio rq

[cobalt patrol]

<@&1206091872716595200> One more for the cause! The children need you!

[short rune]

Thoughts on the carbine?

[cobalt patrol]

I dig it

set it to burst fire

[short rune]

Same

It's really good

[modest fiber]

quite big, nice FR tho

[cobalt patrol]

it's just a nice, snappy repsonsive gun

[short rune]

I kinda just wish they gave us something melee capable too. ^^

[cobalt patrol]

mag dumping feels like a mistake when it's burst fire mode can chew stuff up

[unkempt river]

pain

I wish I was not at work

[short rune]

The spread is a bit hard to control in full auto

So yeah

And for the rest I still use the cluster launcher. ^^

Annihilates 10-15 enemies per shot

Assuming they are not armoured

But yeah, I hope they add melee stuff soon

[shy prairie]

darn, my patch did not complete/progress was reset

[unreal merlin]

Crossbow is so back, I love it.

And you can SNIPE automaton factories with it.

The arcing projectile makes it so easy.

[short rune]

So like what the Eruptor did?

Not sure if I'm happy about the extra damage

[stone bridge]

Whaddya mean?

[short rune]

They removed the splash damage the Eruptor had a while ago and instead increased it's damage. I just don't think thats really a good direction.

[stone bridge]

I mean

No, it still has splash

It no longer has shrapnel

[short rune]

Oh? It feels like the chipping damage is gone tho

Which made the weapon interesting.

[stone bridge]

Chipping?

[short rune]

Eg. You hit a devastator in the chest and it damages the vents

I probably have to benchmark the weapon a bit more in its current state when this is not a splash problem

[stone bridge]

I'm very confused still

Like, the issue is the shrapnel did too much damage

If you read the blogpost it says the old Eruptor could cap out at more than 9k damage per shot

[short rune]

Theoretical damage

[stone bridge]

Which was easily reachable with certain setups

[short rune]

Not sure how exactly it works tho

I thought what they removed was the splash damage

[stone bridge]

Yeah no they didn't

[short rune]

Guess I used it incorrectly then.

[unreal merlin]

They removed the kind of sub-projectiles that would shoot out in random directions, not the explosive blast.

[modest fiber]

honestly would be neat if they made the weapon slightly smaller, to fit the carbine feel

[stone bridge]

triple factory strider: slightly difficult to deal with

[quick plinth]

now if only packaging wasnt broked

and I would be satisfied with the spear

though I am of the opinion the spear should oneshot whatever it hits regardless where it hits

considering that you only get 5 shots per call in, and dumping ammo into it is not extrmely efficient

increase its cooldown or whatever idc, this very limited weapon system shouldn't just hit and not kill imo

[ionic holly]

Considering how much snappier it's lock is i feel like that's genuinely a bit much for it to just "always oneshot"

[quick plinth]

okay sure

[ionic holly]

and considering the only enemy it just
can't oneshot is the striders...

[quick plinth]

but then I feel like they should at least fix the "top attack"

rn it just shoots up and goes straight to the target, which fine, works best for most enemies, but in a lot of cases it causes it to miss weak points

[ionic holly]

Like...?

[quick plinth]

Hulk eye

top of tanks

[ionic holly]

Oneshots the back of hulks, so going for the eye is already a mistake

[quick plinth]

okay you politely ask the hulk to turn around

[ionic holly]

You have teammates and stun options.

[quick plinth]

thats like saying "but you can do X thing to mitigate the issue so its not an issue"

[ionic holly]

sorry for expecting someone to use more than one aspect of their kit?

Didn't realize we could drop in spear only

[hexed steeple]

can you please mind your tone, it's highly inappropriate

[ionic holly]

Apologies

[quick plinth]

its more just that in my conception of the weapon, the spear taking more than one missile per target feels really bad when you only get 5 tops and there's going to be usually a lot more than that between resupplies and cooldowns.

yes you have 3 other strat slots and the rest of your loadout to use, correct, but I'd like the on purpose limited weapon do its job when directed to

like bugs isnt even a discussion

[ionic holly]

You only get 4 by the way

[quick plinth]

the heads on chargers and biles are really easy to target

[ionic holly]

3 backpack, one in the gun

[quick plinth]

correct I miss remembered

[ionic holly]

I'm gonna leave it at a "agree to disagree" respectfully

It oneshots so much stuff with a little aim and the lock is so fast now

As one of the folk who had been using it since month one it genuinely feels like it's in a perfect spot is all

Don't wanna come off rudely again

[quick plinth]

I've been using it for about as long as well, and because it can oneshot most things with minor aim adjustments, id like it to be at least capable of doing so to like the 2 things it seemingly unintentionally struggles to at least from my perspective

[ionic holly]

And from mine it hasn't, hulks you blow the backs out of, and whatever they did to tanks has made them very reliable to one shot

[quick plinth]

hitting the roof of hulks and tanks it oneshots them, but because of the rocket trajectory it doesnt do thst often

tanks yeah, they nerfed the hull and sure while it does kill the radiator in one, I'm of the opinion that it shouldn't haven to hit the rear of the heavy enemy it was designed to counter conceptually

[ionic holly]

I've never hit the rear

[quick plinth]

the radiator is the rear of the hulk

[ionic holly]

... i'm talking about the rear of tanks

[quick plinth]

the tanks arent really the issue

not anymore

[ionic holly]

I don't-
what

So are hulks and tanks the problem or not

sorry that sounded rude didn't it?

i'm just confused

[unreal merlin]

hulks are problematic, tanks are so ponderously slow that you can kind of ignore them for the most part

[quick plinth]

as I've said, they nerfed the tank hull in a way that the missile diving too soon isnt too much of an issue anymore

Hulks remain as the only ones that cause issues

though ive noticed that tanks sometimes still ask for a second missile if it hits at a weird angle

[ionic holly]

So it's one enemy that's an issue that can still be snuffed by other means to make its weakspot easier to hit

[quick plinth]

like its not a huge issue by any means

[ionic holly]

This whole thing is just confusing then

[quick plinth]

it would just be neat if the spear could reliably take out the targets it locks, while not using a lot of its very limited ammo

(example) using 2 missiles per front facing hulk, though you could argue its the tradeoff for being able to do so to them at ranges of 300 and less

[ionic holly]

Correct

It has range, it's way faster and consistent now

and it still reliably one shots so much of the cast

[quick plinth]

a trajectory select would be cool though,

direct and top attack just like the system its based on

also it sometimes not oneshotting gunships is annoying when it doesn't seem to matter too much where the missile hits

I've seen it hit the body/head and kill, but I've also seen it hit the same part on a different gunship and not kill

[ionic holly]

Sometimes i wonder if they can shot the rocket down

cause i'll fire it and not even see it like
miss

it'll just disappear

[quick plinth]

doesnt seem to be the case because these were not engaging us at the time which is what makes it weird, my guess is that the head and body are separate bodyparts on a gunship

[ionic holly]

Shrug

Personal experiences here, don't wanna comment

Er, by that i mean like

i don't wanna comment and downplay your experience

[quick plinth]

no worries

[ionic holly]

Just
making sure

[modest fiber]

yea one of them is hard enough.. tho at most i have seen 2 at once but 3? god damng the bots really don't like your squad

[ionic holly]

If you want a suggestion that might help deal with possible ammo troubles in the now with the spear, might i interest you in an eagle strafing run?

I'm not joking, in the rare times i have to go face on a hulk, one missile, one strafe tends to do it, and kills any trash near it

[modest fiber]

honestly i also sometimes run the strafe when i have room, because the good old reliable brrrt, also you get 3 or 4 of them before needing to restock

[ionic holly]

i believe it's 5 with full eagle upgrades

But yeah strafing run is no joke

i've cleaned up slightly damaged hulks, dev squads, and even some low health striders with it

It does make my current default build kinda funny though

spear, strafing run, ems strike, OPS

[trail nymph]

So how are people liking the new patch?

[ionic holly]

Pretty happy with it myself

Love the gunship patrols, shits mean and i adore it

[unreal merlin]

very good patch

[quick plinth]

my issue is that, especially as rn the spear doesn't kill fabs, I find myself having to run like, one loadout basically.

500, laser, spear, flex (rocket, ac turret or another red) to deal with bases quickly

[south temple]

my beloved tenderizer is hella fun now, 10/10

[ionic holly]

To be fair that fab thing is a mentioned bug

[quick plinth]

yes

[ionic holly]

Fair just wanted to be sure you knew

[quick plinth]

"rn"

[ionic holly]

i-
i know.
i just

nevermind

[quick plinth]

"it doesnt kill fabs right now", sorry but I thought that indicated I was aware of the unintentional sideffect of fixing the targeting on anytning else

(im not trying to be mean, this text seems kinda rude??)

@ionic holly thanks for the strafing run heads-up I will try out

[ionic holly]

Hope it works out for you too

[graceful bluff]

How are the throwing knives

[tight zephyr]

The new patch rips, but gunship patrols can fuck right off, I hate that shit.

But that's my one gripe, otherwise i'm happy as a pig in mud.

[quick crown]

Ya'll....

The spear is fixed

Life is good

The funny machine goes brrrrrr

and hits the bad man

[daring monolith]

I enjoy the gunship patrols as actually being able to have flying enemies on map without a secondary objective to spawn em

also shrieker patrols I've noticed

[quick crown]

All I've ever asked for has been solved and I am free from this painful tormented cycle of playing camera man with a big weapon

I legit think i overreacted and teared up shooting the tanks

[tight zephyr]

I don't like fighting gunships, it's like if a Rocket Devastator was three times tougher and could fly.

[daring monolith]

eh, they go down in about the same amount of autocannon shots

and can be targeted with the spear

[quick crown]

I had a teammate use the laser cannon against them to great effect

[daring monolith]

laser cannon is also nice vs them ye

[tight zephyr]

I don't use any of those.

[daring monolith]

there's your issue then

[quick crown]

HMG can also do it but at the cost of shooting an HMG

[daring monolith]

if you or someone on your team doesn't have a tool to deal with something ofc youre going to dislike it

[tight zephyr]

Yeah, and it sucks.

[quick crown]

Oh the scorcher too

[tight zephyr]

Scorcher, really?

[quick crown]

But its a bit of a sink

yeah

[tight zephyr]

I'll keep that in mind.

[daring monolith]

autocannon turret, rocket turret also can deal with them

SAM site secondary can kill them too just as they roam

[quick crown]

If there are more than one you are better off running but if you just need to shoot down 1 you can empty a mag of the scorcher into them and I've taken down one or two

maybe 2 mags

its hard to tell

YEAH sam sites real good now

Recoilless rifle is good for them too

[ionic holly]

i landed an OPS directly on a gunship one time, funniest shit i've seen

[quick crown]

IDK How eats performs vs em

[ionic holly]

Likely the same

[quick crown]

I spent all of my session last night with Strafing run in my loadout

Can confirm it feels REALLY good now

[ionic holly]

strafing run FUCKS

[quick crown]

Having 5 runs to fucking clear a line of heavy/rocket devis is so clutch

Downside, I am reminded how much some of the bunker tilesets are just CBT

[ionic holly]

It's also really good cleanup if you wanna cheap out on wounded heavies

[quick crown]

When the bunker is surrounded by fucking open feild those turrets that oneshot you feel just the most fucking busted

[ionic holly]

Heavy armour privilege means as long as it's not dead on they can't really kill me

Especially with the new engineering heavy kit

er, heavy engineering kit

An aside, yknow something i crave?
i need a utility weapon/nade that sprays riot foam, i'm unsure of how to make it feel like a different form of CC properly but

man

[tight zephyr]

Okay there’s my answer, thank you.

[south temple]

the HMG is fun as hell for chewing them up tbh

[glacial light]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Helldivers/s/cxx2DgCOKy

According the this post the throwing knife can go right through a players shield backpack and if it's intentional then throwing knife could be really good against illuminate if they have shields

A slow blade pierces the shield

[quick crown]

Beautiful. No change requires 😌

[glacial light]

Hmm I wonder how many knives supply pack restores

I guess I gotta go unlocknstuff

[quick crown]

I haven't gotten the knife yet can you pick em up after throwing?

[glacial light]

No

But you get 8

[tall stone]

I imagine grenade packs still replenish them?

[glacial light]

If supply pack or grenade boxes only restored 2 that's kind of lame

[tall stone]

The hard question of yeet distance enhancement or extra grenade armor for your throwing knives...

[glacial light]

Huh that sounds interesting

Just snipe a bot from 70m away with a knige

I wonder if it counts as silent too

That would make it real good for stealthing a base

Devs are trying to bait us into picking AT mines

https://www.vxreddit.com/r/helldivers2/s/2ugGlINPry

[placid hamlet]

too late

Vernen Wells is like 2 hours from being liberated

[tall stone]

That ship has long since sailed.

[placid hamlet]

oh it's liberated

must've last checked 2 hours ago

[glacial light]

It's be funny if they get tlso desperate for mines that the next weapon will be like a support weapon that's just a water fun that does no damage or mines and the people choose water gun

[junior badge]

The camera!

Give us the patriotic media gun

[tall stone]

Put out fires? Yes please!

[placid hamlet]

it could secretly be an acid projector!

[glacial light]

I would take a patriotic camera support weapon over mines

For the bit

[junior badge]

yess

[tall stone]

We could rule of 3 the mines at this point. Just have them softball the easiest MO to get them, and still fail it.

[strange vine]

@quick plinth sorry for bringing the topic back up again, but while it does suck needing to 2 shot a hulk or tank i think the spear already has p busted stats compared to other AT weapons, given others have 6 AP and 650 damage while the Spear has 8 AP and 1000 damage, so im not sure on whether it should straight up have even more damage

[tall stone]

Don't forget the range advantage Spear has.

[civic apex]

https://fixupx.com/helldivers2/status/1801607654214713451

[glacial light]

Uh oh shriekers are now patrols

[tall stone]

I am even more fine with shrieker patrols.

Breaker Incendiary my beloved.

[glacial light]

Gunships have advanced technology with floodlights and laser scanners that can't see targets well. Meanwhile shriekers are just flying buggy guys that will spot you from their nest 200m away

[tall stone]

Can shriekers call in bug breaches?

[glacial light]

No

[tall stone]

Then they can die.

[glacial light]

Blitzer is fun for bugs but it just decides to be dumb with shriekers

[kindred lintel]

Lightning wants to ground itself and well I hate to break it to you but-

[tall stone]

Yeah, the 6 Shriekers vs. 3 Gunships shown are very different patrols.

6 Shriekers join an already ongoing bug fight? Fine, any weapon you've got can still handle them.

3 Gunships show up during your bot fight? Uh-oh.

[civic apex]

A helldiver just minding thier objectives

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/I81yqBZtEPs A shreiker

[junior badge]

Finally got to try the purifier and... it's fun? Feels a bit like the crossbow used to - a kinda small grenadelauncher but with a flat long-range trajectory.

[glacial light]

Damn that fish has a mean face

[junior badge]

Took down the transmission turrets real fast.

[glacial light]

Nice time to unlock the purifier eventually

[junior badge]

I can totally see why it's basically too slow / a bit too high TTK on high diffs.

But on lower diffs or in a decent team, it seems like it should do work.

[quick crown]

Lmao

I'm proud that we saved the orphans

[glacial light]

Oh damn the sickle makes pew noises now, this is the buff we really needed

[junior badge]

Ooooh, very cool

[tall stone]

Yeah, got to hear it last night! It's great

[glacial light]

You know what would make throwing knife top tier, if it replaces your default melee pistol whip with a stabby animation even if it's purely cosmetic

[sweet surge]

We did some good both in game and out

[glacial light]

Dang these MOs have real life consequences now, good thing we chose the right one

[quick crown]

If we didn't save the orphans they would have given money to some military manufacture (THEY WOULDN'T /S/S/S)

[blissful sparrow]

donation of 4311$ to kill the children

[junior badge]

I'd like to believe they would have donated either way - just with a "while the Helldivers didn't, we did" message.

[glacial light]

The illusions of choice

[glacial light]

AT mines factory employees: terminated? How will I afford my house
Automatons: you don't have to worry about that once we take your brain you get free housing and healthcare

[stark ether]

hmmmm but hows the dental?

[sweet surge]

Even when we do something good, someone still suffers smh

[glacial light]

You don't need to visit a dentist ever again!

You won't have teeth to worry about

[tall stone]

Hey, we have 24 hours to liberate Marfark!

And we've just hit the weekend!

Maybe we get both!

[stark ether]

dont fall for it

make the devs have to offer it a 4th time

[glacial light]

Those are rookie numbers, double digits at least

[stark ether]

make it a helldivers tradition

like the creek

[glacial light]

I want the devs who worked on the mines to suffer, and the community too when they realize AT mines are god tier options and they've been going so long without it for the bit

[stark ether]

commit to the bit

[tight zephyr]

I heard the spawn rates got fugged again. That true? I didn’t notice it but I didn’t play much last night.

[north fiber]

Seriously tho, AT mines are going to be fucking cracked against the bots

[glacial light]

Yea pile confirmed it, according to their data it should be easier back how it used to be but he's looking into it aka play some missions cause the community is loud about it

[turbid tapir]

Last night, from my experience, seemed nuts. We were drowning in devastators and gunships

They just. Kept. Coming.

(Difficulty 8)

Laser Cannon cooks though, slices through devastators, gunships, and hulks.

[tall stone]

The Laser Cannon just answers all problems for bots.

It's not as good as a specialty tool of course, but it will hit anything.

[turbid tapir]

I typically use the AMR and it's a tossup which is better

I think amr is better on hulks and devastators but has no chaff clearing capabilities and is bad against gunships

Also requires skill lmao

[strange vine]

omg

(from official discord)

[tall stone]

Yeah, we made the right choice. 😛

[glacial light]

Aw

[tall stone]

This is worth more than anti-tank mines.

[strange vine]

https://www.rxddit.com/r/Helldivers/comments/1dfm1cl/it_was_bound_to_happen_to_someone_eventually/

[tall stone]

Beautiful

[junior badge]

True Democracy in Action

[wheat plank]

BAHAHAA

[wheat plank]

WORTH IT

[glacial light]

Amazing

Now the knife is my new utility even though I haven't unlocked it yet

[tall stone]

Also the obvious reason to have a knife tbh https://youtu.be/EmUIfX9TSJs?si=gyG1V5diHk48zAYx&t=95

[cerulean sluice]

I wonder if that clip is why we got a throwing knife before actual melee weapons

[oblique storm]

Love how at no point does anyone use a throwing knife against a bug

in that movie

[quick plinth]

also catachan jungle fighters
https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/warhammer40k/images/0/01/CatachanHeavyWeapons.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20100617185012

[glacial light]

I heard 2 knives kills a brood commander

[quick plinth]

however on second thought the two could be just drawing inspiration from the same place instead- rambo

[orchid pulsar]

<@&1206091872716595200> might not dive for long personaly but anyone down?

[quick crown]

I got the Jaguar armor of the superstore as soon as I learned it was medium and like

Hearing my divers fem voice and seeing her rippling muscles

[modest fiber]

relatable and yes

[supple siren]

Also it adds so much to every handshake emote, somehow guns out has more comradery

[quick crown]

Hits stim "FEELSS GOOOOD"

[tall stone]

H U G

[modest fiber]

"dillon, you son of a bitch"

[honest acorn]

I can be on in a few

[orchid pulsar]

yey

[strange vine]

22 hours left
if more of the bugdivers went to bots its entirely likely we'd be able to get the mines too, but...

[reef raven]

I've actually just learned to kill gunships by shooting their engines with the AMR >.>

[modest fiber]

saw this in another group, its nice

[tall stone]

There's so many people on the bug planets making exactly zero progress.

26k on the Bug Front.

[stark ether]

i am commiting to the bit damn it let me farm sc on bug planets in peace

[tall stone]

I want the medals.

[modest fiber]

they are farming that E-710 so we can fight the good fight, for democracy! c:

[tall stone]

Yep, 59% of the current helldivers are on Marfark. 30% are on the Bug Front.

Once again, I just marvel at how many people just don't leave the Bugs.

[tight zephyr]

You and me both.

[wheat plank]

Bugstompers are so annoying

[tall stone]

Also, 2.7k on Hellmire. 😛

[pastel igloo]

the eternal grind

[reef raven]

Tbh during the Mavellon Creek days there had been a few times I went on the bug front but it was for like... just 1-2 missions to refresh myself before heading back to the bugs

[tall stone]

Oh yeah, that's fine.

[supple siren]

Tbf there was a 'Kill 100 enemies with a flamethrower' deal but not sure if it's still running

[oblique storm]

Some people just enjoy the bug gameplay loop

Listen

[reef raven]

What's surprising to me is that so many people keep sticking to the bugs after the Marathonian ordeal of bug MO after bugs MO er had to deal with

[oblique storm]

if there was a major order that I really wanted

I wouldn't mind if everyone else fucked off to the opposite side of the galaxy

I'd just do it my damn self

[blissful sparrow]

It is supremely funny how much people whine about bug front players after malevelon creek

[naive dragon]

I get it. I'm a bots guy. That brief time when we had no bots to fight was the worst. I hate fighting bugs. Y'all can have em.

There's folks like me but just really hate bots instead

But them kids are safe and the salt lords on the discord are mad about it and that's a win/win for me

[glacial light]

The first bot mission I did scarred me, it was on malevelon creek on a civilian defense and we just started the game and got our asses kicked hard on diff 3.

[pastel igloo]

i could never main bugs personally

[glacial light]

I think there were more bots on that mission than there is diff 7 now

[pastel igloo]

but i'll do whatever the major order tells me tbh

[glacial light]

It wasn't until I was like level 12 and went back to bots on diff 6 that they weren't so bad and actually more fun if you've got a good number of loadout options

[tall stone]

We left the bot front and got a lot of planets taken to help the supercolony situation. Dwindled down to a few thousand over there. It would be nice if the bug front could do the same.

[blissful sparrow]

nah, it wouldn't. people get to pick the gameplay they enjoy

there is no "bug front" there is only people playing the game who want to have fun

[naive dragon]

I still wanna see the illuminates so bad

[tall stone]

There is absolutely a bot front and a bug front.

[naive dragon]

I wanna see third faction so bad

[pastel igloo]

yeah there absolutely are fronts

[tall stone]

Your personal preference for what you like fighting does not influence that there are two different factions on different sides of the galaxy.

[pastel igloo]

^

they have different progress

if we stop fighting one the other will progress

[blissful sparrow]

the "front" in the map sense is very different from what you all are complaining about, which is the players who play the game.

[tall stone]

... No? There are some people who do not leave the bug front.

[blissful sparrow]

there is no organized "bug front organization" that exists to personally spite you

[tall stone]

If they are staying and fighting on bug planets, they are on the bug front.

Like, this isn't a terminology problem.

I am just saying it would be nice if 30% of the current playerbase wasn't making zero progress.

[blissful sparrow]

they are playing the game they want to play

[stark ether]

we saved the kids and now we scatter to what we will

[blissful sparrow]

therefor they are accomplishing their goal

[tall stone]

They're smacking their heads into a 3% regen rate in a system that requires total percentage of playerbase on the planet to make progress.

[blissful sparrow]

just because their goal is different than your goal doesn't mean they shouldn't be allowed to play the game as they want to

[stark ether]

but it fun

[tall stone]

If they focused on a planet, I would be more fine.

[honest acorn]

It’d be the same fine

[modest fiber]

well at least we have 2 fronts instead of 1, honestly makes it so one enemy can't steam roll the map so is fine with me

[blissful sparrow]

i personally think that "the game i want to play" is going down on planets and shooting at enemies. incrementing a progress bar with small numbers until it reaches 100 isn't in the least bit interesting or even gameplay to me

[tall stone]

Also a part of me is annoyed because every time I go "It'd be nice if some more people came to the bot front" people accuse me of wanting people to not have fun.

[blissful sparrow]

hmmmmmm 🤔

[wind arrow]

sounded to me like you have mentioned that sentiment to the wrong people

but also i echo prudentia heavily

[stark ether]

i'm going to request we dont this conversation

[modest fiber]

am i the only one that gets their game crashed when they press ESC in game? while when it doesn't do that i can't access the friends or settings tab due to them being blank

[wind arrow]

nah mine crashed upon hitting ESC last night as well

[junior badge]

Yeah, it's a known bug

There's a workaround, hang on...

We are working on a fix for a crash that occurs when you change settings after viewing the Viper Commandos banner in the Warbond menu. However, if you are experiencing this crash, one of our developers has a workaround for it:

You can avoid the crash by not changing settings on the ship after viewing the warbond. If you wait until you drop into a mission, you are safe to change settings again.

Ah, that might be a slightly different one

But maybe it'll help you!

[supple siren]

The bug fix team has to be suffering. Just why is that the case with the menu, why now, why the warbond..

And the spear developing a new personality every time they try

[blissful sparrow]

nah i'd call that probably an easy thing. If something crashes after you look at one thing then there is probably data from that persisting around that interfers 😄

[tight zephyr]

The Spear is starting to become for Helldivers what the Telesto is/was for Destiny 2.

It hasn’t been quite that dramatic yet, but I anticipate it…

[quick crown]

I don't know what that means but if you touch my spear I am going to pull out my senator

Let me have my cool weapon they finally fixed it and it feels amazing to use

and the ammo consumption is reasonable

And it can't oneshot hulks 100% of the time

fair and balanced

Ok i looked into it

It seems its some weapon that was bugged to hell and back

and somehow reenabled itself after being shut off?

[tight zephyr]

The Telesto is so famous for bizarre bugs and instability in the Destiny 2 community that there’s a website with a counter of “days since the Telesto broke.”

[modest fiber]

the spear has always been wack, the one time i managed to try it after the update, i do approve quite heavily

[quick crown]

Thats pretty funny from how everyone in threads are describing it tbh

[quick crown]

reddit 2 years ago

On Wednesday, another strange firing pattern was noticed, where a different kind of projectile would spawn when the Telesto projectiles exploded, like Graviton Lance's effect.```

[cobalt patrol]

@quick crown oh no it's way more cursed than that. That's just Bungie doing shit on purpose there, telesto had all kinds of breaking the game bugs and balance issues

[keen zinc]

<@&1206091872716595200> room for 2 to fight for the cause

[shrewd tiger]

Still need 1 CrazyDave is just chatting

[stark ether]

might join in a few if theres still space

[shrewd tiger]

Come on in the war is fine

[tidal wing]

viper commando armor is cool but please I beg gib lite prosthetic armor

pleas

I want to run fast and yeet far and have a cool robot arm don't make me pick 2/3

[tight zephyr]

I’ve been using the armor with the prosthetic arm so long that I had to relearn how far I can throw a stratagem when I switched to something else.

[ionic holly]

Ah, the only bad part of about servo assisted limbs

it can teach some really rough habits

[tall stone]

Like the idea that there's a safe 380 distance

[ionic holly]

To be fair there is

assuming it's not scatter increases, 70+ is usually safe

[honest acorn]

70+ seems very safe to me

I might be distorted by having the less divergence upgrade but 45m feels safe enough now

[hot meadow]

spear crazy good now wao

[alpine seal]

i love the spear

i was already a believer when it was bugged but now it's almost surreal what it can accomplish

[supple siren]

Gonna be a real demon with the secondary bugfix

Bots shan't be prepared

Also; the rocket turret aims at buildings it is way annoying

[stone bridge]

Secondary bugfix?

[supple siren]

Whenever it's able to hit buildings again

[stone bridge]

Oh I see

[glacial light]

One day the spear might reach Telesto levels of buggy

[quick crown]

We're just going to see a increase in map objectives that can't be solved with the Spears my guess

[tall stone]

I have discovered my autocannon turret aiming at buildings now

[stone bridge]

It sadly always did that

[daring monolith]

my guard dog (ballistic) is aiming at buildings too. And the front plate of striders.

Which is irritating when the bullets bounce off and hit me.

[tall stone]

I must have never noticed it aiming a buildings.

Or never put it in a place where it could.

I will happily report that it does do a nice enough job of deleting a building while we're busy with gunships though.

[glacial light]

Yea it's annoying when a turret tries to shoot something it can't harm

Chargers become a ricochet nightmare to the machine/gatling turrets

[cobalt patrol]

I watched my rocket turret angrily attack a bot fab to no real effect

whcih was pretty funny

[honest acorn]

Ok so now that I’ve had a chance to use it more

What the hell is Gatling barrage now lol

[quick plinth]

I mean the rockets (can) kill a fab, it just takes a bit

[honest acorn]

Shit has killed

• hulks
• factory striders
• bot fabs
• gun towers
• not a tank yet but I bet it does

Goes on for like 15 seconds with the upgrades with sub 50 second downtime

[hallow gorge]

Yeah, I've been loving gatling and airburst barrage

But I have not noticed gatling kill factory striders

That's nutty

[honest acorn]

Airburst was already lowkey goated but Gatling did need buffs

[honest acorn]

I don’t think 1 use of it reliably kills them but it does damage them and can finish them off

But I have seen it solo kill hulks and (probably) fabs

[hallow gorge]

Yeah, those are literally the most heavily armored target in the game it probably shouldn't do that

[honest acorn]

The probably is just there because I can’t rule out someone shooting it with an autocannon and me not noticing

[honest acorn]

It does have some weak top areas

[hallow gorge]

Yeah? Didn't know that

[honest acorn]

They made them tougher but they used to be so weak that cluster bombs would reliably 1 shot them

[tall stone]

Yeah, the Striders are less sturdy than they seem.

[hallow gorge]

Ok huh. I guess I've been wasting my time unloading into the face plate

[tall stone]

2 Hellpods and a OPS kills.

[honest acorn]

Strafing run is also not over buffed like I was worried, it seems that AHS quietly made it a little skinner to compensate for the improved pen

So it’s more of a dedicated medium mulcher

Gatling is bananas now though

[tall stone]

I do like Strafing Run.

It's still capable of bullying a single hulk.

[honest acorn]

Crossbow is neat now, a weird “support weapon primary weapon”

[honest acorn]

Same

Though I’ve been using it less than I expected because Gatling is wow

[cobalt patrol]

I need to experiment with gattlign more

it's very much an area supresison tool

it can kill tanks, but it takes the whole barrage to do it

i susepct it's good on factory striders simply because said things are so big they soak all the hits

[strange vine]

its absolute killer in maps with corridors and chokepoints

like marfark

[tight zephyr]

My favorite method to kill an Annihilator tank is to climb on it and throw an HE grenade straight down so it gets stuck between the turret and hull.

It’s stupid and risky but it works more reliably than trying to shoot the vent because the turret is always facing me.

[glacial light]

Does 1 HE grenade destroy a tank that way?

It seems more difficult than 2 impacts to the turret but uses half the grenades if it one shots

[tight zephyr]

It does.

I do it all the time. You just kind of have to make sure the turret rotates so the grenade is vaguely near the vent.

There’s probably better ways to do it, though.

[glacial light]

Neat

[tight zephyr]

I actually kind of prefer the HE grenades over the impact ones. But that’s mostly because I kind of use grenades for combat engineering more than for kills.

I like having a backup that I can easily kill fabricators with if the air strike or orbital misses or is on cooldown.

[tall stone]

I like them for getting Berserker groups.

[quick plinth]

<@&1206091872716595200> anyone feeling like relaxed lower difficulty gaming?

[tight zephyr]

Sure, just need a minute.

[quick crown]

whats the crash fix again?

[cobalt patrol]

The official discord trouble shooting has some stuff pinned

[glacial light]

Finally got to play post patch and damn orbital gatling and strafing is great. Precision is easier to use, Eruptor is strong enough to one shot headshot shield devs. It's good times

Orbital Airburst seems to have a wider area than it had before

Leading to a few friendly fire deaths

[modest fiber]

sounds great, time to see if i can try

[stone bridge]

Airburst is so damn good

[modest fiber]

as long as the enemy doesn't yoink it out of your hand and it kills your current squad.. then again thats most strategems i use because precision ain't really my thing.. oh one time i saw a player bring killed by their orbital railgun.. it was confusing times

[hearty pier]

I've been indirectly killed by orbital railguns popping hulks/tanks but never directly

[alpine seal]

at 70 seconds a piece gatling barrage is a beautiful reliable tool now. i might just have to pick up airburst as well

i've also been using machinegun sentry a lot with its new 2 minute cooldown and it serves as a great option to toss out at any time

the only reason i still have eagle air strike in my kit is because the spear can't kill bot buildings yet, if it did i might even drop it too

[strange vine]

tried out the reg guard dog and its actually fairly good vs bots, it consistently 1-2 taps troopers and seemingly always gets headshots vs Devastators and occasionally Berserkers

if you got its ammo from ammo packs then itd be fantastic, as it is it's supply pod hungry

[alpine seal]

enemy spawns getting cranked up once the mission's complete is definitely more than it should be, but it's impacted me less than i thought it would

though part of that is in part because i maxed out my samples long ago

[honest acorn]

Yeah it’s pretty nice I like it myself

Worst part of it it’s it’s love of wasting a whole mag in the front of a scout strider

[strange vine]

Or trying vainly to headshot a hulk

[unreal merlin]

Getting a lot of use out of the deagle now that my beloved crossbow is back in business. One-tapping bots feels good.

Grenade pistol was kind of my locked-in secondary just so I could destroy crates and things, but now I don't feel the need to use it.

[hexed steeple]

what's like the use case of the crossbow? can it kill hulks and shit?

[stone bridge]

it's kinda like a more agile eruptor with less damage and a projectile you need to lead a lot

is the impression I get

[quick plinth]

The new sights while nice, are still missaligned on some wapons, cheifly the AMR

[stone bridge]

is that from experience? I read they weren't anymore

Specifically on the AMR

[quick plinth]

I tried it without my centre dot and kept missing devestator heads

put on my centre dot, hit every head

that's conclusive enough for me

[hexed steeple]

centre dot?

[quick plinth]

using the XBOX overlay thing that comes with windows

there's a plugin that allows u to use a PNG as an overlay

tldr I use it because the firstperson sights in helldivers are innacurate to where guns are actually firing

it feels annoying that I have to do so because it lowers the immersion factor (and doesn't work well with guns that sway a lot outside of prone)

[hexed steeple]

:o

[quick plinth]

In the end you get something like this

where you see the centre of my screen, (where the AMR is actually firing) and the sight telling you where its thinking its firing

I know it's misaligned because if I put the dot on a head and pull the trigger it goes there but if I aim with the actual sight it tends to miss / take more than one round (or I have to hope that the hit detection smooths over the inaccuracy)

[unreal merlin]

As stated it's kind of similar to the Eruptor, but much better rate of fire and handling. The arcing bolt is entertaining and rewarding to use for me especially at long distances. In practice, it's useful for:

• killing small groups of raiders (you can shoot their feet and kill 3-4 easily enough)
• staggering devastators (headshots kill them instantly) though I usually just change to my railgun for these
• strong vs hulk's vents (though again I usually prefer railgun eye shots)
• blowing up POI crates
• blowing up assemblers/nests precisely from afar

[cobalt patrol]

OPh, that's an upsetting bug

OPS has it's cooldown fucked up - mine is 1:20s cooldown 😦

[stone bridge]

ack

[cobalt patrol]

Which is 80s

but i have the cooldown reduction upgrades

...

gfdi

[stone bridge]

wait

yeah uh

90 - 10% is 81

😛

[cobalt patrol]

but they buffed it's cooldown this patch

[stone bridge]

yes, from 100 to 90

[cobalt patrol]

...

Oh

sigh(

It has Been A Time

also the gfdi was me popping google open and typing it "Ship ugprades elden ring"

Which

uh

Wrong game, brain

Very wrong game.

[stone bridge]

can you imagine

[cobalt patrol]

"Lion strike on this area, now"

Que greatsword flips onto everyone

[stone bridge]

:)

[cobalt patrol]

Otehr than the fact i can't touch tghe menus at all currently (Very, very frustrating)

the combo into bots of OPS, Gattling, Strafing run, autocannon feels really good

and you can do some fun trticks, like eye shot a hulk once into a strafing run to drop it

[stone bridge]

It sounds pretty good

I think my regularly scheduled loadout of Airstrike/Clusters/Autocannon/Airburst is just even better this patch

More target saturation for Clusters, an Airburst every minute 30 with apparently a wider area

https://www.reddit.com/r/Helldivers/comments/1dfmd61/this_new_stim_booster_slaps_i_am_outta_there/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

Wow that's zippy

[cobalt patrol]

Wait,m did they buff the clusters?

Or are you just meaning there's more enemies thus clusters are better?

[stone bridge]

Yes

[cobalt patrol]

Gotcha

I'm just really enjoying the AP on Strafing run

it's so nice watching it just cut down beserkers, and it feels so good when it kills tanks/hulks

[south temple]

man the MMG fucking rips now

i still kinda prefer the HMG for big pen and being sick as shit but the medium is crazy

[stone bridge]

Yeah the MMG is fucking jacked now

You can shred a Charger butt in 35 rounds

Not even a third of a mag

[unreal merlin]

Gunship Patrols:

• cool addition
• sucks hard when you have no weapon that can fight back

Anyway I got dropped into the mission and the host disconnected during loading so I made it in with only my scout armor. Successfully stealth'd the majority of it. Orbital Gas is actually very useful vs bots as it will VERY QUICKLY clear out all the chaff raiders and even scout striders, leaving only slow devastators to pick off.

[cobalt patrol]

It also messes them up something ferice too (The devs)

the only reason i'm not using it is that Gattling feels better and is faster cooldown

and the niche "I can blow up fabs with gas trike" isnt really of interest ot me

[trail nymph]

<@&1206091872716595200> anyone up for some morning dives?

[hexed steeple]

can it hit hulk eye or is it only for vent

[unreal merlin]

I haven't had any success using it to hit hulk eyes, though I also haven't been trying for it. It can be used to destroy other vent units like turrets and tanks though.

[unreal merlin]

Yeah though it usually leaves devastators still standing and when my normal devastator killer is a waist-shot railgun it doesn't really matter to me how close they are to dead.

Still, the value of guaranteed clearing out 15+ raiders in a chokepoint cannot be understated and does great value to keeping the situation under control.

[cobalt patrol]

Oh, for sure

I used to run it all the time into bots

One side benny of thegattling barrage?

Becauise it makes os much noise and aoe, it draws bots to it

...and often into the aoe

[orchid pulsar]

<@&1206091872716595200> divedivedivedive

[cobalt patrol]

I just finished a run and am gonna take a break

[orchid pulsar]

fair nuf

[winged patio]

How long do you think they’re gonna let us get away with the meme of just avoiding the A-T mines wherever possible until they give up and just give them to us?

[strange vine]

you know given all the government assigned jobs i actually wonder if super earth has homelessness

while it wouldnt be surprising if they do given their hyper-capitalistic society

[glacial light]

Homelessness is inefficient for the productivity of the war machine, we give them unpaid internships and they get to sleep in the factories

[quick plinth]

So

the usecase for the purifier is?

they both deal "explosive" damage iirc

purifier has an AoE yes

but why use it if you want the AoE when the Plasma punisher is there

[wheat plank]

You say homelessness I say fuel for the Democratic prison-industrial complex

Those are patriots who help keep the arsenal of the helldivers fully stocked

[honest acorn]

Looks cool decorating the wall of the super destroyer

[tall stone]

Oh boy another terminid MO

[turbid tapir]

Given the satire of the setting the SE solution to homelessness is the most nutcase GOP suggestion for homelessness you've ever heard

[blissful sparrow]

Execute workers until there is enough free jobs for everyone who is homeless

[strange vine]

the only real case is that it shoots much straighter, otherwise yeah the purifier got a bit better after the patch but its still otherwise meh compared to scorcher or plas punisher

[wheat plank]

Indentured labour

I'm telling you guys Super Earth would totally have a series of comprehensive anti-homeless legislation to just make losing your job become a pipeline to becoming an unpaid munitions factory worker

[reef raven]

I mean they already hinted that one time we got free napalm airstrike during the Meridia Thing was due to a 'volunteering' campaign SE citizens 'priducing and donating homemade napalm to support the campaign on Meridia'

[glacial light]

homemade napalm

[blissful sparrow]

noone makes better napalm than grandma

[heady halo]

"super earth and its colonys are every citizens home, some people can choose to sleep outside and super earth accepts them and their kind decision in times of housing shortage"

[glacial light]

Those super suburbs won't build themselves

[honest acorn]

Super Campers!

[glacial light]

Unfortunately the suburbs take quite a bit of space with the Super Earth mandated size minimum on front and back yards but there's no Democratic way to create more housing space in a smaller area unfortunately

Unlike those automatons with apartment buildings and walkable cities, why won't they think of the car industry?

[honest acorn]

Not sufficiently democratically phrased those are “concentration towers” not “apartment buildings” l

[tight zephyr]

Maybe I should give this thing another shake.
https://fxtwitter.com/HelldiversAlert/status/1801915678322274593

[honest acorn]

HMG fucks now!

Improved damage makes its 75 round belts go further

[tight zephyr]

I think I need to remember to turn down its RPM a bit, too.

I didn't like having to fight its recoil.

[honest acorn]

Has hit markers and 3rd person crosshair

[tight zephyr]

It can kill a gunship, which is what I'm excited about.

[honest acorn]

One perk of it is that the recoil, while significant, is predictable

You can under-aim properly with sustained fire

[junior badge]

Easier to use than either dominator or punisher.

Bullies devastators (including shield ones) through stagger.

Is still undertuned, but a lot of fun for me.

[turbid tapir]

Anything that can smoke a gunship is good now

[honest acorn]

Luckily a lot of support weapons are up to the task

HMG/Lascannon/Autocannon/Quasar/Spear

I find RR and EAT kind of hard for it since they have a lower projectile velocity

[glacial light]

I love the spear, a bit overkill but it feels good against gunships

And generally if someone uses the HMG they can gun it down before I can acquire lock and the projectile travels to the gun ship

[honest acorn]

Oh yeah and you reload it like a little maniac since they just made the animation play faster

[south temple]

HMGing gunships is my favorite thing now

HMG, adjudicator, supply pack, big wins

[junior badge]

Adjudicator over Tenderizer?

I would've thought the extra damage on the Tenderizer would push it into an even better contrast to the HMG.

[tight zephyr]

There's something panicked about the reload animation. I love it.

[south temple]

i kinda flip between them but i like the adjudicator for emergency devastator disposal if the MG is dry

[junior badge]

Gotcha.

[south temple]

tenderizer is genuinely super fun now tho

[junior badge]

I guess in an emergency the Tenderizer's headshot-ability goes down a bit ^^ certainly does for me...

[south temple]

i do feel like it should have more rounds tbh

[strange vine]

Nah its got enough rounds

Youre meant to be hitting weakspots more

If it had any more itd be creeping to OP

Liberator Penetrator absolutely needs more rounds per mag tho

If theyre keeping it low damage it needs more in the clip than the fucking adjudicator

Like no reason why it shouldn't have the same mag size as reg lib when it has 25% less damage per bullet

[honest acorn]

The LP does have better ballistics and a better scope but those are very marginal

Since it’s so rare to engage at long range

[tight zephyr]

The LP felt really underwhelming when I first got it. I notice a lot of lower-level players running it against bots and it kind of feels... not exactly like a trap option, but in the same vein?

[honest acorn]

That may just be because it’s on like page 3 of the free warbond

And it’s the only medium pen weapon at that level

[tall stone]

Correct.

The bug changes make them a lot less miserable for me to fight now.

[keen zinc]

<@&1206091872716595200> war?

[orchid pulsar]

sure gimme 10 to 20

[keen zinc]

we are fighty bugsd

gonna be doing 5/6s cuz patrol density insanity

and i mostly only need rares and medals

i want it

does the skintone on the armor change randomly

i swear its different today

[rapid plover]

I hear it does, yeah

[keen zinc]

neato

[orchid pulsar]

<@&1206091872716595200> anyone wanna join us?

[modest fiber]

i would.. but still can't launch the game so i'll try later

[burnt vapor]

it does they show that off in the trailer

[honest acorn]

I might be on in a bit - not sure what my day plans are yet

[tight zephyr]

bro this guy is using incendiary on bots

He's chucking impact incendiaries at hulks...

[orchid pulsar]

yes because fire deals burn damage

[tight zephyr]

It doesn't do shit to Hulks though.

Does it?

[orchid pulsar]

i was making a lancer joke (( aka burn damage)how do i write this without sounding mean)

[tight zephyr]

Oh. Went over my head.

I'm fully expecting someone to tell me that incendiary weapons are good for bots now, though.

[orchid pulsar]

oh i wish i wish

[honest acorn]

I actually do like incendiaries vs bots

they cook heavy devs pretty good

definitely better vs bugs

[ionic holly]

Yeah bots don't take like reduced fire or anything to my memory

it's a situation i rather appreciate

Bugs it's just more useful cause they spread it amongst themselves more

[keen zinc]

no takers?

sadge

[ionic holly]

I'm not at my computer currently, apolocheese

[heady halo]

sorry amko i am siiick or id be down

[modest fiber]

those damng bots have hacked my systems so can't drop :/ curse them

[keen zinc]

bushwacker fun

its a pocket punisher

<@&1206091872716595200> still looking for 2 more

[stark ether]

yay we dodged the at mines again

[sweet surge]

https://fxtwitter.com/helldivers2/status/1802054453828178037

[stone bridge]

[stark ether]

diggy diggy hole?

this woulld be the perfect time for a drg crossover

[undone veldt]

Did they ever fix the issue with fire weapons?

It’s been a while since I played the game

[strange vine]

Like a month ago, all fire stuff burns shit good now

[alpine seal]

flamer hulks also got tuned so they don't flash-fry you anymore

same with the mech explosion

[keen zinc]

same with spewers

i actually survived a spewer attack today

[wheat plank]

Literally was so glad for that change

Though I still instinctively book it if I see one

[undone veldt]

Nice

[tall stone]

Flame Hulks will probably forever inspire my fight or flight response tbh.

[naive dragon]

Drilling missions
Shai Hulud

[glacial light]

New MO is liberating 5 bug planets including hellmire for habitation

Who's living on hellmire

[supple siren]

It's fiiine, the Fire Tornados don't even follow you anymore

[quick plinth]

we see farms on hellmire

who tf was farming on helmire

[glacial light]

Super Earth needed the spiciest peppers and the driest jerky

[stone bridge]

Hellmire seems to have a lot of volcanic activity, so what soil there is would be extremely rich

[hazy oriole]

maybe it's cuz i had good teammates but MAN the rebalanced bugs and spawn rates feel great
bringing a ton of aoe (including the glorious gatling barrage) and man oh man oh man i haven't had this much fun with this game in ageeeeeeeeees

while i love bots this MO came at a great time, was getting tired of them

can't wait to workshop new loadouts for bugs n stuff now

[wheat plank]

I should drop my friend code here

[supple siren]

Gatling Barrage seems wild, lasts nearly half the damn cooldown

[wheat plank]

anyone wanna go for one (1) dive?

[unreal merlin]

Noting could possibly go wrong with injecting nuclear bombs into the planet's mantle to kill big nests. It's common knowledge that all hive lords were exterminated one hundred years ago.

[pastel igloo]

nothing bad could ever come of a Super Earth operation

[quick plinth]

Man just give me a buggy to ride the edges of the map while the rest of the team draws aggro (I am hoarding all the samples and credits)

[cobalt patrol]

Hellmirians!

Good salt of the fire tornado people, though they're very alcohol adverse

[glacial light]

A fun idea that was posited is if you can reload empty SEAFs same way you active them then it's be fun to sacrifice yourself after the super destroyers have left by driving a vehicle to the seaf alone reload it

[cobalt patrol]

Cultural reasons, you understand.

[cobalt patrol]

They're kinda not scary any more ;.; but also a bit more fun to fight as a result

[wheat plank]

my grandpappy got drunk once

poor sonofabitch stumbled right into one of them fire tornados

Screamed for a whole six minutes, he did

[cobalt patrol]

Honestly, that's actually kinda impressive given how fast they kill Helldivers

[wheat plank]

Tough old bird my grandpappy

He fought in the first war

[modest fiber]

damng thats a one old raisin for sure

[modest fiber]

i mean they gotta farm that fire somehow :3

[unreal merlin]

where else do you think we get flamethrower fuel from?

[heady halo]

https://x.com/Helldiversmedia/status/1802140133027959252

Helldivers 2 Media (@Helldiversmedia) on X

The Ministry of Truth doesn’t want you to see this…

Approached the large boreholes on the new Nuke Nursery mission and overheard this. Something big is coming Diver!!

📹cigretz #Helldivers2

Twitter · Jun 16, 2024, 12:44 AM

[quick plinth]

where are these missions?

I can't seem to find them

[keen zinc]

on the major order worlds

[stark ether]

they seem to have a difficulty minimum lowest i saw one on was 5

[quick plinth]

I haven't seen a single one so far and I've played like 2 ops on one of the planets

weird

[stark ether]

just had a very irritating game, i just want to talk to whoever decided on the delay before stims activate and the stagger/stun timings

[tall stone]

Let me guess, hunters?

[stark ether]

no just a bunch of the little guys staggering me forever into a spewer

[shy prairie]

it does kinda happen like that sometimes

in my last game i got launched right up into the air by those exploding spore sacs, and got run over by a charger right after i hit the dirt

[agile fable]

ladies and gents, i've joined the fight

freedom doesn't sleep and neither do i

[pure wave]

I'm assuming Australia still exists on super earth

[modest fiber]

found some neat art of the Viper Commandos c: the artist is Count Grimhart (makes good stuff)

[candid finch]

Hellmire farming

[cobalt patrol]

So, Orbital Gatting into bugs is (shockingly) really good

On the other hand, i dont actually like the bushwacker into bugs

it's just too slow to reload 😦

[daring monolith]

I like it better into bots tbh

The triple shot kills a zerker if you hit it right and staggers devastators.

[cobalt patrol]

Yeah, it feels better as an emergency "oh, screw this devastator/beserker" weapon

[daring monolith]

I’ve been using it along with the tenderizer (sickle on cold planets). Very good, also funny when you flick to a bot and automatically fire even though a teammate is in the way, filling them with three shells of buckshot

[supple siren]

I love the Bushwacka into bugs, Emergency Stalker Button is just handy-dandy, and brood commanders just evaporate

[orchid pulsar]

<@&1206091872716595200> yo anyone down? (just seeing if people are down to dive later not to play rn)

[modest fiber]

sure

[cobalt patrol]

I'm off to bed, sorry

[orchid pulsar]

np gnight

[runic cairn]

I'm down

in like 15min

[tight zephyr]

I’m out on my morning walk but I’d be down when I get home.

[orchid pulsar]

yeah, i cant play rn i can in like four hours

[runic cairn]

nope thats eeping time for me

[trail nymph]

I’m available for some diving now if anyone wants to join in

[orchid pulsar]

[runic cairn]

i down

<@&1206091872716595200> actually playing

[glacial light]

I want to try out bushwhacker cause I've been rocking Eruptor in bots and hopefully knives soon

[glacial light]

I need that new booster, imagine super stims with light armor and a jetpack you can jump so far probably

[tall stone]

https://tenor.com/view/mario-super-jump-nintendo-video-gif-13737166

[glacial light]

Did they ever change the jumppack in a recent patch?

[modest fiber]

dunno, didn't use it much before that

feels like it recharges faster tho

[tall stone]

I'm too addicted to Rover to know.

[glacial light]

With all the patches I just use spear and have 3 reds to rain down hellvry few seconds

Orbital Gatling, precision strike, and strafing and I could just spam so much

Goodbye long cooldowns

[tall stone]

Gas, Gatling, and Clusters for me.

Over on the bug front, at least.

[keen zinc]

<@&1206091872716595200> two squads with room

https://discord.gg/sZfPKV5F

[runic cairn]

net died

[orchid pulsar]

damn <(:(

[tight zephyr]

Wonder if they're going to be able to hotfix the Infinite Devastator Works soon.

[stone bridge]

The what now

[tight zephyr]

The spawn rates for the bots are borked on higher difficulties and you're seeing a lot more devastators and hulks than you're supposed to.

IIRC anyway.

It certainly feels like there's even more devs and hulks than there were before and even then that was pretty crazy.

[stone bridge]

I've found it really fun

[gusty heron]

I’ve been loving the numerous spawns. My ballistic shield is doing work. Nothing quite like walking directly into a bot cluster, shooting out dev heads with my SMG, while all their lasers just flash off of my shield.

Even heavy devastators are no problem, they just have no answer for someone walking directly at them, and once you’re within throwing range it’s easy to shoot past their shield.

Agh I need to play a full mission here sometime, I’ve just been doing runs with randoms lately. Maybe later tonight.

[unreal merlin]

Waiting for the day knives get buffed to

• be melee capable
• can pick them up after throwing

[gusty heron]

That would be dope. I’m looking forward to whenever I have the supercredits for the new warbond, and if knives can do proper knife stuff by then I think I’d definitely crowbar them into my loadouts just on the cool factor.

[unreal merlin]

As is, they're pretty useless unless you're running scout armor (I usually do) and have snuck up on a patrol or POI, and it only kills raiders. It's silent though so you can easily clear most of them out, it's just really wasteful not being able to pick them back up

[tight zephyr]

I'd rather have more small enemies on the map than being swamped with big guys.

Especially hulks. Those are too tough to come at you more than maybe two at a time.

[sweet surge]

SE dabbles in eugenics too?

Lovely

[quick plinth]

"we will lower the amount of Chargers and bring in the (forgot its name) big charger to compensate"

(meanwhile me getting surrounded by 5 big chargers on difficulty 7 and it's not like I was intentionally farming them)

[strange vine]

C-01 forms have a wait time and require approval, ofc they do

[cobalt patrol]

Hulks i find it really, really depends what weapon you're equipped with and personal palyer skill.

Autocannon/AMR/Railgun and you're a deadshot? Hulks all day eevery day.

...NOt a dead shot? tend to whiff shots? Stun grenades and also running screaming may be advised

(I am totally making fun of myself there, i can usually take down hulks very wqell, but also get some pretty amazing whiffs too)

[unreal merlin]

Love blapping hulk eyes with the Railgun

Speaking of, I hadn't mentioned it yet but they reduced the Railgun optic dot size so you can actually see what you're aiming at and it's great

[tight zephyr]

I'm not that good of a shot, so it's a bit dicey.

The Railgun is a great can opener for Devastators, though. I use it to pop Berserkers too.

[daring monolith]

optics across the board have been made better

it's really nice

[stark ether]

i still want a hesh autocannon

[quick plinth]

20mm is too small for hesh

(realistically speaking best you'd get is a high explosive round, too little explosive to do what hesh was designed to do)

[daring monolith]

HE is what the autocannon is already I think

Bc it does have an explosion

[honest acorn]

It's named ammo type is APHET

Which I assume is Armor Piercing High Explosive Tracer

[stone bridge]

<@&1206091872716595200> anyone up to play in around ~20?

[unkempt river]

I am!

[quick plinth]

sure

I'll be there

[unkempt river]

(finally home, available, and in the mood)

[keen zinc]

sure ill be in

[stone bridge]

[quick plinth]

https://discord.gg/Rr3N35ky

[orchid pulsar]

If there is space im down

[tight zephyr]

I'd like to, but I'm about to hit the sack because I have to exchange my labor for money tomorrow.

[stone bridge]

Will be jumping in shortly

[quick plinth]

@keen zinc

[steady flame]

Opinion of something that'd be a neat call-in: A disposable 4-bnarreled incindiary rocket launcher.

[honest acorn]

Good news!

That was the Commando in HD1

And has been datamined in 2 so it'll probably be added later

[steady flame]

I entirely forgot that was in the original.

Ironically, I was inspired by the same thing that the Commando was inspired by: The M202 Flash.

[cobalt patrol]

IIRC, Commando in this isnt inccindary, but is still a 4 shot eats aalt

[stiff spoke]

They still haven't added it? Surprising given its state months ago

[cobalt patrol]

<@&1206091872716595200> Who's currently around?

[orchid pulsar]

i am

[cobalt patrol]

I'm not feeling like Vox, but wanna dive, Soap?

[orchid pulsar]

sure

[cobalt patrol]

Cool, i'm in game

join up on me and i'll get us going

...Once i uncrash my game

[unkempt river]

nyoom

[quick plinth]

I'll be up for a few missions

[unkempt river]

let me fill my water rq

Then I'll be on

[cobalt patrol]

Cool cool folks

i'm in gmae, just join up on me

A bit headachey and low spoon, which is why no vox

[unkempt river]

imagine having a head to ache, lmao

[cobalt patrol]

Just waiting on you to join

@quartz cloak If Havoc doesnt respond shortly, you should come join

I can't make my game private because of the crash bug, so >.>

[quick plinth]

sorry

thing

I'm loaded in rn

[civic apex]

https://youtu.be/BHQ2N9gRA0g

[cobalt patrol]

<@&1206091872716595200> IF you're still having the crash on menu bug, try following these instructions -

#1218153537914273802 message

Doing that made my game not crash anymore on menus again. Hooray! (TLDR: Edit your config files via notepad or similar to turn off crossplay)

[strange vine]

apparently certain research buildings can be destroyed without 500kg/OPS/hellbomb if they have an AC unit on top (person destroys it with grenade pistol)
https://i.imgur.com/Fe8Fikd.mp4

[cobalt patrol]

Yup!

It's a neat werid little thing

[lethal badger]

https://youtu.be/1-atk8s9a60?si=abXzCV-GKwKNZlLj

[quick plinth]

good to know

[honest acorn]

I lowkey didn’t realize 500 kilo could destroy those

I must have had a bugged one back before they fixed that one

[glacial light]

Whoa

[quick plinth]

yeah u can 500 research stations

same with the precision strike

tbh any objective u gotta destroy you can do it with those two

(jammers once they're off, detector towers, ect)

[honest acorn]

I think I had a bugged indestructible one but the hellbomb got it

I think only the aircraft towers need a hellbomb?

[quick plinth]

the one terminal objective? where you hack it to blow up?

cuz I'm currently failing to remember which objective that is

[honest acorn]

Oh sorry I meant the gunship factories

I think the control towers are actually indestructible other than the hack

[copper crest]

Oh... SEAF artillery mini-nuke prolly kills jammer towers real good now

[sour whale]

the gunship factories are technically destructable without the hellbombs, but- it's highly impractical

they have, like, armor 10, and only the railcannon orbital can pierce that, iirc

[quick plinth]

high yields might do it too since I think they're equivalent to 380s?

[supple siren]

>:|a I -know- some research stations withstood a 500kg before, I wonder if this was a bugfix or somethin'

[quick plinth]

I've never had them resist 500s (but this is all anecdotal so)

[cobalt patrol]

YOu have to be really dead on with the 500kg to crush Research stations

they're shockingly resilent if you even miss by a little

[quick plinth]

I mean I was under the assumption people were chucking them dead on (right next to the building) and had the station survive

because I've had the bomb itself hit the station and destroy it a couple of times

[cobalt patrol]

IOt's easy enough to have them bounce off the building

(The beacon that is)

[quick plinth]

true- honestly i wish the stratagem beacons were sticky

no rocks bouncing or building bouncing

[supple siren]

Them sticking to shields is so damn funny every time

[quick plinth]

shields?

[supple siren]

The personal bubble shield, for whatever reasons beacons are real clingy with them

[quick plinth]

ah

this explains

[tall stone]

Just got off of the best Helldivers run of my life. An entire operation with 0 deaths on my part!

[supple siren]

I love how the officer will comment on stuff like that