#Helldivers 2: For Managed Democracy!

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honest acorn
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stun+lascannon does make hulks really easy to handle though

keen zinc
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But that doesn't mean anything if a single pixel of flame makes me drop dead from full health

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Oh yeah

honest acorn
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yeah

keen zinc
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Love stun users

strange vine
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Bullpup Dominator

keen zinc
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Arc throwers too

keen zinc
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The only possible use for that abomination

honest acorn
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honestly... that looks mostly ok to me

keen zinc
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One word

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Wrist.

strange vine
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Also Dominator and Eruptor share the same gun body

honest acorn
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Yeah the humongous magazine that close to the hand doesn't work

keen zinc
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Bullpup fans when you try to explain egonomic necessity for holding a rifle for 16 hours

meager saffron
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god

keen zinc
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Or reloading in the prone

honest acorn
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Yeah that seems like the biggest problem with them honestly

keen zinc
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Bullpups have a perfect spot as urban combat special purpose weapons. They are substandard battlefield weapons (in my opinion)

stone bridge
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Have you held one?

keen zinc
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Yes

honest acorn
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The dominator is already sort of nightmarish looking for ergonomics so making it shorter might be nice

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But that magazine doesn't work

keen zinc
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They're fun to shoot and definitely have all the upsides that people praise them for

meager saffron
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the scope position is so fucking funny

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it makes the gun look like a borzoi

keen zinc
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But people just go deaf when it's like yeah it's nice to shoot but I don't want to hold that in patrol position for hours

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Wrist pain

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Or try to maintain a sight picture in the prone while reloading

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Because youd have to fucking plank

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And you generally wanna stay as low as possible

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Also tactical reloads in the high ready are more tricky

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Still doable but not as fluid as standard

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I have infantry brain when it comes to guns

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I don't think of how good it shoot so much as do I wanna carry that all day every day

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But for urban ops, hell yeah I want a bullpup with a short as fuck barrel

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less stuff for a dude around a corner to grab and yank

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A magwell is a great place to get hauled to the ground and shot from behind a door

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Amko don't post a wall of text for a minor tangent challenge impossible

tired crystal
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dominator?

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i 'ardly know 'er! owo

keen zinc
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Not mutually exclusive

rare nymph
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The sample grind continues apace

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Got three tier 4s now

tired crystal
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poggers

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speaking of

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should i just stay on lower-level missions until o

keen zinc
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You should play whatever makes your heart sing

tired crystal
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i've gotten all of the basic-sample-only upgrades?

honest acorn
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Do what you want you can theoretically handle 9s with only gear you get at like level 8 or lower

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It will admittedly be very hard without the extra hours of game sense that more practice gives but in terms of weapons you’ve got what you need early

rotund marten
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I would perhaps shoot more rifles if I hadn't learnt to shoot guns with a shitty cadet version of the SA80A1, which is the bad one

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I shot the SA80A3 some years later and it was much less infuriating but damn

stoic lotus
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genuinely impressive that we made a gun which falls apart if it gets wet

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and fires on average three rounds before breaking

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and were like "yep seems good give it to the troops"

rotund marten
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a lot of that was that the factory making the first model of the SA80 told all the workers they would be laid off soon

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as such, they didn't have a great motivation to address things like "build quality"

stoic lotus
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but this was also the same war as "minesweeping is when you plough an unlucky frigate through the area where we think there are mines and hope they hit enough of them to clear the way"

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misc how on earth did you get your hands on an sa80a3

fallen tendon
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just had pelican betray us

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wouldn't let us in the doors

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tried desperately for 4m to get in and we just couldn't.

keen zinc
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Funny moment

fallen tendon
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nah fuck pelican

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lost 40 samples to his bs

keen zinc
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Funnier moment

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(my condolences)

ionic holly
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The crossbow feels shockingly nice

keen zinc
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It's really good

modest fiber
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its good stuff

rotund marten
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scouts getting pulled into the Cadets Get Shown Army Things in my area

rare nymph
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I love how the grenade pistol is just an underbarrel gl given to the divers as a standalone weapon

keen zinc
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Yearp

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This is gonna be Death one of these days

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@shrewd tiger

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As I always say

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The piss don't miss.

shrewd tiger
keen zinc
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It'll happen someday

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Statistically it is assured

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Same as everything else

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50/50 either it happens or it doesn't

tall stone
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It is satisfying as hell to quick shot chargers in the face with missiles.

pastel igloo
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listening to We Are The Helldivers again

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gonna play some more with friends tomorrow hopefully

keen zinc
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There is only one Helldiver song to me

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GORY GORY WHAT A HELL OF A WAY TO DIE

quick plinth
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oh hey JY

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he's good some good powermetal vibes

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though his leans more towards bits of other genres so it has a unique sound to it

keen zinc
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Common sample acquired

strange vine
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Good for them but jeeze such a sorry state people put themselves in for a game they dont even seem to enjoy

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Lotta similar stories in comments

stark ether
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i wonder if we'll see a big shift away from zero sum games

honest acorn
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BRs already are

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Since you can have a good ass game and come in 3rd

keen zinc
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Automaton voice

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I'd install that mod

strange vine
glacial light
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can't wait until they let us have super super destroyers

rare nymph
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It’s just two super destroyers taped together

unreal merlin
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Super Duper Destroyer...

glacial light
rare nymph
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delivered by two eagles taped together

undone veldt
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What do you think would happen if you referred to super earth command as chat?

dusky solar
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"Oh that's just Magma, they went a little crazy and now they think they're a Vtuber. Yeah, we let them call us up on the destroyer 'chat' and they keep coming back with Ws, so we're not questioning it."

glacial light
undone veldt
glacial light
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Hey Eagle One can we ban the next automaton fabricator that creates communism thanks

keen zinc
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mods, cluster strike that guy

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👉 🤖

keen zinc
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Stalwart my beloved

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I forgor how good it feels to just buzzsaw things apart

tall stone
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Just send a stream of bullets at whatever problem, yeah

glacial light
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Stalwart the primary support weapon

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I read a post on Reddit praising the precision strike and they brought up a good point that precision and 500kg are kind of very similar overall

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Same building destruction, similar time from calling in to exploding, similar damage radius

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And also stun grenades followed up by precision seem good

keen zinc
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i love precision strike

tall stone
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I'm addicted to 380

keen zinc
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technically the precision strike is a 380

cobalt patrol
glacial light
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I think my new loadout will include precision and stuns and will be very different from how I play now

keen zinc
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i wish we had a, like

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offensive stun grenade

glacial light
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Impact stun grenade please

keen zinc
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something to toss at an area to stun targets but could immediately be attacked

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nah the stun grenade we have has, like, a lingering stun

hot meadow
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30 minute mission.

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level 7.

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guy drops a 500 kg on the shuttle and kills everyone right as the timer ends

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host kicked everyone, which was unsurprising

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still, that's enough helldivers for the night!

glacial light
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I think something funny would be stagger grenades that staggers enemies for a moment but you get double tbe amount

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Throw them maliciously

stone bridge
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you should honestly play with people here more, Steamed

keen zinc
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i really dislike showboaters who throw the mission for cool factor

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Death at least usually only risks his own hide

glacial light
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I wish they made pelican helldivers invincible

hot meadow
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regardless, the game was otherwise

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fun

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I am very happy at how smooth 7s feel for me now

glacial light
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There's like no way to stop something from killing yoh as someone in the pelican seat which is a shame

hot meadow
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there's a lot of potential griefing right at the end of the mission

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this one was notable only because frankly I've experienced almost none, which speaks well of the community

glacial light
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It's like a minor thing I feel like they could add easily enough, how many story point could it be 8?

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Me the software developer with the worst ability to gauge dev time

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I am back to build crafting a jack of all trades build I'll won't swap out from for like a few weeks.
Thinking medium medic armor, stun grenades, eruptor, grenade pistol
Precision stike, shield pack, arc thrower or laser cannon, and one yet to be decided

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I am open to suggestions, might be eschew the shield pack if I can get better at surviving

cobalt patrol
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Eruptor wants laser cannon

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and i'd swap shield pack for jetpack

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i'd probably add 500kgs there

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thoguh i drop the g renade pistol for redeemer

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and you basically have my bot build

glacial light
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Why laser cannon specifically

rare nymph
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Grenade pistol plus eruptor might be a bit much

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Leaves you without ultra-close range options

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Unless you’re fine with eruptor self-damage

glacial light
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I will simply refuse to switch off from arc thrower or laser cannon

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Depending on which one I like better

cobalt patrol
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You use it to kill tanks/hulks/turrets and as an ddtioanl chaff clearer

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also deletes gunships

honest acorn
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I wasn't expecting the laser to handle gunships that well

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But it does

tall stone
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Laser cannon is pretty variable in what it can handle.

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It can mob clear just as easily as it can handle bigger threats.

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Blasting off hulk arms, handling tanks...

undone veldt
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It’s surprisingly good for all anti air needs

honest acorn
unkempt river
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<@&1206091872716595200> bonk "You can't just call it Super Crack. That's a Bug Breach."

hot meadow
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Much easier than shooting them with your primary, for some reason, maybe evne easier than the AMR

honest acorn
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it's really easy to "walk" the laser onto weakpoints ime

rare nymph
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Laser cannon used to be my go-to for bots early in my hell diving career

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Maybe it’s time to revisit it (beyond that one time I tried to revisit it, had a bad game, then ditched it again lmao)

stone bridge
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<@&1206091872716595200> need 3 more to join Hades in HA Hangout

supple siren
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Laser Cannon is a monster now, and on ice planets it can just fire so long it's comedy

rare nymph
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Btw, something that you don’t notice about guns till you don’t have it? Flashlights

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Dropping into a night mission with no flashlights is a special kind of annoyance

supple siren
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I do wonder what makes them decide which gun gets a light or not

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Always a bummer to have no options on R

rare nymph
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Now, sometimes in hazy/foggy conditions flashlights can be a liability, but at least you have the option

tall stone
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Another benefit of the Laser Cannon: It makes light

rare nymph
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It’s just a big flashlight, really

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One that can kill hulks if you shine the light in their eyes

hot meadow
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chat was like "can't see, can anyone light them up"

tall stone
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I love that side benefit.

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That and it blasts open the goodie cupboards

hot meadow
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Also thanks to chat again for the 380 explanation, I used it to clear a heavy nest without having to be there. big fan now

cobalt patrol
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and kept coming b ack to find dead bile titans

hot meadow
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So I decided to play onnnnnee more mission with randos tonight, to try to end on a good note

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it was great!

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highlight tho was dropping into a really bad spot, with stalkers climbing up the collective team's butt crack

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I figured out the direction they were coming from, hucked a 380 with my servo arm, and a few seconds later...

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STALKER LAIR DESTROYED

cobalt patrol
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@oblique hazel Did you crash too?

oblique hazel
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yup

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did everyone?

cobalt patrol
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@oblique hazel YUp[

oblique hazel
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damn

cobalt patrol
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I think the game got very un happy at 500kg AND laser AND wild hell bomb all going off at the same time

dusky solar
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Man some people are so aggressive on 7s, like shooting every bot they see haha

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I've been politely asking people to let me solo tonight sweating had a few times where i had a random come with me and then open up on every patrol that got within 80 meters

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Also arc thrower NEEDS to have its goofy "oops teehee the bolt is getting stopped by foliage/corpses/thin air" behavior fixed before i will take it again vs bots

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Arc thrower, shield, eruptor is pretty good. I still think autocannon is the best overall blue strat for bots though

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Oh also, mortar turret is broken vs bots

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Patrol gonna catch you due to some factor? Throw the mortar into some cover relative to them and watch them all die shooting at a rock

unreal merlin
graceful bluff
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The misfires aren't intentional

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it's just hard to fix

quick plinth
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the issue with the arc thrower is that it sometimes refuses to arc to targets in clear view

graceful bluff
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those are misfires yeah

ionic holly
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I think the one complaint i have with the crossbow currently is the inability to container pop

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I don't even need it to pop outposts, i'll deal without, but no container popping hurts

merry cosmos
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New super store rotation!

stone bridge
blissful sparrow
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Cool Rocks 😌

stoic lotus
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woo yeah medium medic armour

meager saffron
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sorry

stoic lotus
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finally we get some

meager saffron
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engineering kit????

stone bridge
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yaaay

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woooo

stoic lotus
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wait what engineering kit

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that has to be an error right

meager saffron
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

ionic holly
merry cosmos
ionic holly
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i'm tired boss

hearty sleet
stoic lotus
graceful bluff
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Fixed an issue that resulted in different damage being dealt enemies between PC and console players.

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Would be nice if they said which it got changed to

blissful sparrow
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the correct one

ionic holly
graceful bluff
merry cosmos
ionic holly
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Eh, least i enjoy either passive

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will have to readjust for the shorter throws

graceful bluff
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need to get a new good looking throw medium then

hearty sleet
ionic holly
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That's good atleast

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Still wish we could get but a crumb of heavy engineering kit

oblique hazel
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Wish you could see the patch notes without joining their damn discord

blissful sparrow
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what do you mean? just look at the patchnotes in your feed?

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its right there

oblique hazel
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ah so my steam just isn't playing nice

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I have never been able to get it to show patch notes for this game for as long as I've been playing

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never had trouble with any others

ionic holly
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Could always check a prior post from the game and just scroll up, unless it's just completely not showing up

oblique hazel
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ah that did work! thanks!

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had to go down to the new warbond announcement, thats the only post actually in my feed for this game normally, but it did work

junior badge
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Bizarre.

But yay workaround!

ionic holly
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I do it often cause I know sometimes the library feed is sluggish as hell

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But yeah surely that heavy engineer armour is just right around the corner

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Ooft that went slower before i sent it, my bad

quick plinth
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and another medium armor kit? / medic?

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hell the light armor has the same frickin color scheme as the other one

ionic holly
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Trying to recall all perks MIA from heavy currently

I think it's just scout, engineering kit, and arc resistance? might be forgetting one

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Oh, democracy protects

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so solid 2/4 that i can 100% never being added

so where's my DP and EK?

cerulean sluice
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Democracy protects should be some goofy looking parade armor with oversized pauldrons

graceful bluff
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heavy stealth isn't there either

merry cosmos
short rune
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I think they added new armour to the store today?

oblique hazel
short rune
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I think there is a medium set that has it

graceful bluff
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there is yes

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and heavy+stealth would be a really nice combo since stealth gets punished less by the sprint loss

short rune
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I wish the two attributes were separated for each set

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Like Scout was like: Detect enemies and 30% stealth

ionic holly
stone bridge
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<@&1206091872716595200> bwuh (i would like to play)

hexed steeple
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bro wants to play

graceful bluff
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I'll be around in like 10 or so, just gotta get to a good spot to save in starsector

stone bridge
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excellent

quick plinth
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made a channel

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be waiting for ye

graceful bluff
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oh that's a neat new thing

eager pine
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I am trying to recognize her accent.

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It'a hard cause it's so light.

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I should say cute AND hillarious.

quick crown
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21.3% damn thats higher than I remembered for survival rate

graceful bluff
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<@&1206091872716595200> Squad 2 best squad

short rune
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Oh, the order ends in 20 minutes

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I wonder if we get instantly a new one

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I hope it involves Cyberstan

graceful bluff
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I mean there was a 6gb patch that totally didn't have a bunch of new stuff in it

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just a couple of fixes, promise

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anyway still need 2 in squad 2

short rune
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Pondering if I should hit the Gym today or not

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I may dive instead

blissful sparrow
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depends with what

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orbital laser, 500kg, etc

quick crown
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I hope we get another Bug push

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I need to have a bigger reason to go fight em

tall nova
quick crown
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ex AMR kills)

short rune
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💪💀

sinful bay
short rune
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Technically cyborgs

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They may complement the robot forces which would be scary.

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APCs, Legionaries, Abominations

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Butchers

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Pyro soldiers

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Hounds

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The rest is relatively identical.

blissful sparrow
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Give me the APC 😔

short rune
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I hope they also add the turreted variant

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M5-LAV

blissful sparrow
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i miss that clunky mofo

royal lantern
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Oh man, I realize that the best extension of the concept of the gunner loader weapons is a tank/APC with multiple positions

blissful sparrow
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in HD1 there was multiple vehicles with seperate driver and gunner positions

short rune
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Unpopular opinion. I loved the MC-109

royal lantern
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But I figure they'll wait a while before adding that kind of thing back in

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i figure the terrain would also make it difficult

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Unless, of course, they gave us spider tanks

blissful sparrow
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we've already seen the APC and a dune buggy with a roof MG in leaked footage

short rune
short rune
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I also saw the Emancipator Exo

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I shame they are changing the Lumberer

daring monolith
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Also hackers have called in WIP of the dune buggy and apc

short rune
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-.-

daring monolith
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And tried to pass it off as a ‘glitch’

short rune
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Pff

daring monolith
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So they are in the files as WIP

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APC is 2x stalwart on the sides, driver, and autocannon gunner

Dune buggy has HMG I think?

short rune
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APC is relatively identical to the M5 then

sinful bay
short rune
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Riiight. I just gotta report that to the Democracy Officer.

sinful bay
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And there is also that theory that the Automatons have human brains in them

short rune
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They may

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They are a splinter group of the cyborgs and I think they are sapient

naive dragon
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I am sapient

short rune
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Me too!
🤝

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We have so many things in common

sinful bay
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The Sickle loses to leaf sadcowboy

short rune
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That bug was in the last version too

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Sickle is still a great LMG

naive dragon
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I want more smgs

short rune
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More one-handed weapons would be great

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Or melees

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With the ballistic shield a melee would be entirely viable

sinful bay
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Agreed

short rune
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Weapon upgrades would also be great so I can finally get the bayonet

sinful bay
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I want to try the grenade pistol + ballistic shield but I think I just gonna be disappointed ;w;

cobalt patrol
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Bot missions on Seven are now a lot spicier, it seems

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I am cackling

short rune
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Great

cobalt patrol
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||Factory striders dropped by dropships||

short rune
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What did they change?

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Ohoho!

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The Anti-Air players are going to be happy

quick crown
sinful bay
quick crown
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4th faction finally confirmed

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PLANTS.

short rune
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Menkent foliage doesnt die to something as feeble as lasers

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Can't wait for the Lumberer.

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Genghis in Helldivers

sinful bay
quick crown
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The robots didn't build the Flamer hulk just to fight us, There is a reason they built it with a buzzsaw AND a flamethrower

short rune
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Foliage management.

short rune
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Hell yeah!

quick crown
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Hey so what Does and doesn't kill the bunkers

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Is it just 500 and hellbomb?

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380 didnt seem to do it

keen zinc
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Oh no it works

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It just takes a lot

stone bridge
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the ground breaker armour is peak now it has Engineering Kit

keen zinc
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It has a huge amount of health and multiple points that need to be destroyed

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Usually a 120+380 can destroy a command bunker

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500kg can help to hit a specific turret/sponson that the arty missed

quick plinth
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ah so you have go round and just kill everythin

short rune
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I still wish they had their own bonuses.

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For the new pass

sour whale
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orbital laser can take care of a bunker pretty well too

short rune
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Like maybe uh, enviromental resistance or so

quick crown
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after I learned some of the safer spots to approach at I might just stick to hellbombing it but damn I guess my 380s just didnt have good RNG on the salvos

short rune
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Did something just happen to the planets?

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Ah, yes.

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Joel is angry today

idle hollow
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needs to focus on it for a while though

keen zinc
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Apparently factory striders can now be bot dropped

short rune
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Yeh ^^

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Just shoot down the ship

quick crown
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So, Spears pretty OK at killing striders? I've not gotten to shoot at one yet

keen zinc
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Intel is highly spotty

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They were rare during first encounter

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So knowledge on how to take them down is kinda "hit it with a lot of stuff"

short rune
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I imagine a good old L-Ambush-Formation should do

keen zinc
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Don't be in front of it

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And take out the turret fast

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Those dual multilaser cannons on the front will mince you

blissful sparrow
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the funniest thing i heard is that apparently eagle clusters oneshot striders

short rune
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Pff

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But also your team

blissful sparrow
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shrapnel getting everywhere

blissful sparrow
short rune
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A sacrifice in the name of liberty and democracy no less

cobalt patrol
blissful sparrow
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i don't run eagle clusters, i only teamkill with orbital bursts

short rune
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360

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^^

keen zinc
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Either hit them with full stuff, or brave boy that shit and kill it EDF style

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Get underneath and fire explosives and throw grenades into it's guts when it's spawning Devastators

short rune
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Yeah, you gotta attack it from the side with two folks using heavy weapons and then flank it from the back with two further

keen zinc
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Regardless, you cannot maintain a defensive position against it

sinful bay
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How do you solo it?

keen zinc
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You need to attack it

keen zinc
short rune
keen zinc
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Get under it and huck grenades into it's guts when it's spawning devs

short rune
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I imagine you can also just drop 500s on it

keen zinc
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Yeah

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Hopefully both hit well

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Cuz it needs both

sinful bay
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thank

keen zinc
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So if one whiffs you gotta wait for anotherb

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Baiting to a hellbomb could also work

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If you want to play bait for the mighty battle camel

naive dragon
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Can I stick the strategem to myself I forget

short rune
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Pff

graceful bluff
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throw it straight up and land it on your personal shield

naive dragon
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I will deliver the payload let's go

short rune
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Thankfully its only a problem with its ordnance

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Oh boy

keen zinc
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Can't wait for Shredder and mortar variants

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Count as mobile AA guns and mortar batteries

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C'mon AH

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I want the range of enemy artillery to slowly get closer

short rune
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Give them a bigger radius too. ^^

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Same for MG emplacements.

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And enemy snipers would also be great

tall stone
short rune
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I think their assassins are worse?

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Besides that, keep in mind how much the Illus rely on shock weapons.

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Just wear arch resistant armour

sinful bay
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What if they start using plasma?

short rune
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Overcome it. Like everything else.

keen zinc
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They're more "level that hill to kill a guy on top of it" type warfare

naive dragon
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Same

short rune
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Stormtroopers

keen zinc
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They crush you under weight of firepower and then assault with chainsaws and flamethrowers

short rune
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Except their missiles.

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I imagine those are smart munitions

keen zinc
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Weight of firepower

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They don't shoot very accurately they just shoot a lot

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You only notice when it hits you

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But it misses more often than not

short rune
#

Ah

cobalt patrol
#

It;'s very easy to see how inaccurate they are when you;'re stealthy

keen zinc
#

Accuracy via volume

cobalt patrol
#

they just shoot vaugely in the direction that they thought things were

#

it's only really heavy devs and MG raiders who manage to be at all accuracte

naive dragon
#

Which is kinda funny tbh

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Videogame logic tells me the guy with the shield and gatling cannon will miss a lot

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Then

keen zinc
#

Nope, that shield must be a great stabilizer

naive dragon
#

Robort goes "hey check out this aimbot"

keen zinc
#

They're robots so it could have locked joints just to stabilize the gun from the weight of the shield

short rune
#

The entire thing is a walking stabilizer

naive dragon
#

Yeah

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It's very cool

short rune
#

Not very stable when you shoot them with propelled 20mm

naive dragon
#

Just not what I first expected

#

I wish I was as cool as a heavy devastator

keen zinc
#

A walking mounted machine gun

sinful bay
#

Metal Gear...

keen zinc
#

You're up against the wall and he is the fucking wall

short rune
#

Imagine they also were faster now and had an autoshotgun. ^^

keen zinc
#

I wish standard devs had a better gun

#

They should be more threatening

naive dragon
#

I just want a laser SMG to go with my ballistic shield so I can add the big chonk armor

short rune
#

I lost respect for devs altogether since I got the Eruptor.

keen zinc
#

It'll be here

#

Tanto

naive dragon
#

I wonder how it'll perform

tall stone
#

Their faces are too exposed to be dangerous Amko

burnt vapor
keen zinc
#

I mean true

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I fuckin eat heavy devs

tall stone
#

Silly bot don't recognize the reason we Helldivers wear helmets

keen zinc
#

Punisher makes all devs nothing

short rune
#

Still hoping they add the M2016 at some point.

blissful sparrow
keen zinc
#

October

naive dragon
#

Railsniping was made for devastators s2g

short rune
#

Ye

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It should be

naive dragon
#

I love my railgun

short rune
#

I would also love the AR-19 variant of the Liberator with a better scope

keen zinc
#

I cannot wait for the Constitution

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And the Justice

short rune
#

Also definitely weapon upgrades

#

Let me slap a bayonet to every weapon I own

keen zinc
#

Pls

naive dragon
#

Due to budget constraints the Liberty Day Constitution is purely decorative

keen zinc
#

Kills you

short rune
#

Nah

naive dragon
#

Super Earth goes into civil war

short rune
#

Every citizen gets a Constitution on their 16th birthday

keen zinc
#

Please give me the funny bolt action

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I need it

short rune
#

With bayonet so we can bayonet-charge them fishes and robots

keen zinc
#

Blowing on a whistle and the entire squad charges with bayonets on bolt action rifles

blissful sparrow
keen zinc
#

WW1 mode

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I need a bolt action rifle

#

Eruptor is cool but it's not a rifle

naive dragon
#

I want a beam weapon that can be switched to a charged pulse

#

Like you overload the battery for a big shot

short rune
#

DBS-Doublefreedom is not the shotgun we find on the map, yes?

naive dragon
#

Dunno, I do like that shotgun tho

short rune
#

Sawed off variant

naive dragon
#

Surprisingly useful

#

Sawed off would be cool

short rune
blissful sparrow
#

gimme sawed off autocannon

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i want to one hand that mofo

naive dragon
#

Sweet liberty

short rune
#

I really hope they didn't condense upgrades down to different weapon variants.

keen zinc
#

I don't think that could work

naive dragon
#

Autocannons akimbo

keen zinc
#

Mechanically

strange vine
#

factory striders actually have a p big weakpoint on the head

keen zinc
#

I think the autocannons barrel is part of its firing mechanism

strange vine
#

theres a strip of medium armor around its eye and a strip in the middle of its head

short rune
#

Hmm, jumpjet on their backs?

strange vine
#

you can kill it with autocannon, laser cannon, etc. fairly quickly hitting that

keen zinc
#

Laser cannon stay winning

naive dragon
#

Laser cannon 😌

keen zinc
#

I assume it has Hulk face armor level

strange vine
keen zinc
#

So can't use Machine-Gun

strange vine
#

that green bit on the thumbnail on the head is a strip of medium armor

short rune
#

Neither Eruptor.

keen zinc
#

Also obligatory can someone tell me if Stalwart has hitmarkers yet

short rune
#

Havent tested it yet

sinful bay
# short rune

"Downed"
Wait so when your HP hit zero you didn't insta die in HD1?

short rune
#

No

#

Yet get downed and can still fight with your sidearm

#

Granted enemies will try to finish you off that way

#

Though HD1 didn't had multiple hellpods. When all of you die at the same time its pretty much over

blissful sparrow
#

you were also screenlocked to a single screen

short rune
#

Yep

blissful sparrow
#

so everyone was always close together

short rune
#

But there were upgrades to zoom out

#

Like the scout drones

blissful sparrow
#

actually was a pretty cool mechanic to have completely seamless local coop and online coop

short rune
#

^^^

#

Though I'm not sad we lost that in exchange to free movement.

sinful bay
#

oh cool

#

Makes the Helldivers feel more like an elite unit that way
And not fooder like in 2

keen zinc
#

They were better trained too

blissful sparrow
#

tho the game design did get a bit weird with patrols and such still working essentially exactly the same, but now the devs can't rely anymore on everyone being at most a screen apart from each other

keen zinc
#

Helldivers 1 training was much more advanced and less lethal than it is now

short rune
#

You were still kinda cannon fodder. HD1 kinda plays a couple years after Helldivers became a standard unit without many specialized branches

keen zinc
#

Yeah but the tutorial is a much more invested thingn

#

Has a much lower fatality rate

#

And has a robots and holograms for training assistance

blissful sparrow
#

its amusing cause for the most part the tutorial is almost identical

keen zinc
#

It's just way cheaper

#

Way way way cheaper and more lethal

short rune
#

Prior to the galactic war Helldivers also were often deployed against humans.

sinful bay
#

"Now we have REAL guns and REAL bugs!"

blissful sparrow
#

when i did the HD2 tutorial i immediately recognized the room layout

keen zinc
#

Assumedly they weren't quite as expendible then

short rune
#

Before SE kinda started a three fronted war.

keen zinc
#

But with the constant training and cryo freezing and spiking population and war economy

#

Helldivers have just become ammunition for the war machine

short rune
#

The first hellpods were used to drop directly into a human parliament which wasnt part of Super Earth.

#

IIRC

keen zinc
#

Yeah. Used to slaughter a dissident government

#

And not like military leadership

#

Dropped into their parliament and killed everyone

#

Very cool and not fascist at all

short rune
#

I vaguely remember that some helldiver branch was also used for domestic issues like protests.

#

Which is unsurprisingly not legal

sinful bay
#

C-
Can I join the Automatons yet?

short rune
#

No, and for this you will be reported to the Democracy Officer and executed.

#

Because we are a managed democracy and dont want to bother with politics.

keen zinc
#

Remember: anyone who disagrees with super earth is an alien

#

and aliens hate freedom

pastel igloo
short rune
#

People that protested against the war against Cyberstan were all executed

tired crystal
#

SOUNDS LIKE SOMEONE NEEDS A REMINDER OF WHAT FREEDOM IS ALL ABOUT

short rune
#

As cyborg sympathisers.

pastel igloo
#

to an extent it's not wrong but it's also comically evil

short rune
#

?

keen zinc
#

Also the "terrorist attacks" committed by "cyborg agents" killed like

#

How many people?

#

Like a dozen?

short rune
#

Thousands

#

IIRC

keen zinc
#

No it's like

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Literally a tiny amount

short rune
#

Lemme doublecheck

keen zinc
#

Iirc

pastel igloo
#

you are sympathising with the Cyborgs but also Super Earth absolutely was just justifying going to war with Cyberstan cause they wanted to

sinful bay
#

Well I missed my only two shots, I will surrender now

pastel igloo
#

They definitely did the terrorism and framed the Cyborgs for it

short rune
keen zinc
#

Yep

#

A person with cybernetics killed 8 people

tired crystal
#

is the gameplay-based implication that Super Earth would've won the war a long time ago if they weren't so hilariously wasteful and inefficient part of the satire?

keen zinc
#

And they launch a genocide war

#

To enslave the cyborgs

short rune
#

Which was an insight job as it conveniently happened shortly after the government of cyberstan announced their sovereignty.

keen zinc
#

Who had no clear connection to the attack other than the person having cybernetics

pastel igloo
keen zinc
#

Super Earth loves false flags

short rune
#

Also, everyone on Cyberstan needed these enhancements to survive the rough climate and the mines.

#

It's not like they did out out of ideological reasons

keen zinc
#

They only got more extreme and militarized to resist super earths assault

#

Super Earth makes its enemies worse.

short rune
#

Just like the bugs became more feral and wild

#

They used to be an intelligent and peaceful species.

keen zinc
#

The Illuminate are going to be back all fucked up and spiteful

blissful sparrow
#

ah yes, "I can make him worse 😻" - Super Earth President

keen zinc
#

We killed their knowledge gathering peaceful culture

short rune
#

Yep. They prolly dropped their scholarship to became fierce warriors

keen zinc
#

They were a society of scholars and students

#

And we ruined that

short rune
#

And as a fourth faction, maybe dissidents themselves.

keen zinc
#

Nah

#

I don't want to fight a Normal Human faction

pastel igloo
#

big funnies that Super Earth dropped a bunch of propaganda saying that the knowledge and peace people were awful barbaric warriors and waged war on them

#

which probably made them awful barbaric warriors to survive

keen zinc
#

"they have WMDs!!!" and then we took their technology and used it to make WMDs

short rune
#

10 years of galactic war and 100 years of exile did

keen zinc
#

They're gonna come back less as scholars and priests and more as strategists and paladins

tired crystal
#

imperial conquest forces the conquered into increasingly desperate straits, which in turn is used to justify further imperial oppression?

keen zinc
#

Or worse

tired crystal
#

perish the thought

sinful bay
keen zinc
short rune
#

Is there something worse than communism for Super Earth?

keen zinc
#

Warlords and cultists

short rune
#

Oh joy

sinful bay
#

Dissetants that want to abolish the 7 days per week work schedule

stable schooner
blissful sparrow
#

Abolish the 7 day work week for an 8 day work week

short rune
#

Social score -3000

keen zinc
#

Honestly the inefficiency is probably intentionally left as is to fuel the war economy replacing the massive equipment losses

#

And keep up recruitment

short rune
merry cosmos
short rune
#

The weapon is worth more than the diver firing it

merry cosmos
#

"Enlist today"

tired crystal
short rune
#

Except Cyberstan is a gulag for people now which ironically become cyborgs to survive Cyberstan

#

So super earth turns people into Cyborgs

keen zinc
#

Why would you want to stop losing men and materiel if you can use their deaths and equipment losses as justification for increased war spending and encourage recruitment

keen zinc
merry cosmos
#

Hence. "We have always been at war with cyberstan"

short rune
#

Well right now they are very likely joining the Automatons

pastel igloo
#

it seems extremely likely

merry cosmos
short rune
#

Who wouldn't?

stable schooner
#

Pretty sure the cyborgs like, made the automatons?

keen zinc
#

They did

pastel igloo
#

yeah

#

that's why the Automatons were so insistent on taking back Cyberstan

keen zinc
#

They are very proud of their kids for their successful campaign against Super Earth

short rune
#

Either that or the Automatons are a splinter group of radicals that entirely laid off the rest human they had

pastel igloo
#

also i gotta say

#

the Automatons looking like they do does not help their pr

keen zinc
#

Nah there was a binary message that confirmed the Automatons as the Cyborgs "children"

pastel igloo
#

everyone knows that red eyes are the sign of an evil robot

keen zinc
#

And the Cyborgs looked like that because they had to

short rune
pastel igloo
#

probably would have been worth investing in some different color lighting for the eyes

keen zinc
#

Well no

#

Red is a very good color for lights

#

Hence why military flashlights have red lenses

#

For low light

merry cosmos
#

Super earth would have found some excuse to kill and enslave liberate them

pastel igloo
#

fair i guess

#

they just look comically evil

pastel igloo
#

this looks like it worships Khorne

merry cosmos
#

Because it does

#

They all do

#

It's psy warfare

keen zinc
#

Super Earth makes its enemies worse and no doubt the Automatons fucking hate Super Earth

#

And want to strike fear in SEAF personnel

pastel igloo
#

oh they absolutely hate Super Earth

short rune
keen zinc
#

Chainsaw skullbot no doubt causes routs amongst SEAF soldiers when they assault the trenches

pastel igloo
merry cosmos
#

I want that strogg asthetic to come back to HD2

keen zinc
#

Ehhh

#

It works for a stylized and zoomed out game

#

Less so for an up close and more realistic aesthetic

#

As it runs into censorship issues in many countries

short rune
keen zinc
#

"were"

#

But you adapt to what you need to do

pastel igloo
#

makes sense

sinful bay
merry cosmos
#

And you do that all 7 days of the week

short rune
#

Legionaries, should the cyborgs ever join Automatons

short rune
#

Also doggos

keen zinc
glacial light
keen zinc
#

But I doubt the cyborgs will join the field in number

tall stone
keen zinc
#

They're going to be protected by the Automatons

short rune
#

Oh yeah, I could also see Immolator troopers

#

Would be fitting

keen zinc
#

I wish the jump pack extinguished fire like it used to

#

It sucks to be lit on fire mid flight

#

Can't stim or dive

short rune
#

True

#

They should fix that

merry cosmos
short rune
#

Buppies

#

Also don't forget Grotesque swarms

keen zinc
#

Honestly I don't forsee a lot of the "desperation" units returning if any do

#

The cyborgs don't need to take to the front

short rune
#

Thats a good point. I just feel like these specifically would complement the Automatons

keen zinc
#

Grotesques we're a desperation unit

#

Berserkers and Air Raiders do the same job better

#

But without expending cyborg lives

undone veldt
#

Factory Striders have made a resurgence on the Automaton front. These imposing, massive support dreadnoughts now threaten freedom and democracy throughout the galactic rim.

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pastel igloo
#

oh shit

#

they keep cooking

#

damn

short rune
#

They are just a bigger target that explodes just as well as smaller targets

candid finch
#

honestly they need to stop cooking long enough for a smoko at this point. Ceaseless Cooking.

short rune
#

💪💀

candid finch
#

They are beefy and armoured from what I've seen

short rune
#

Yes

#

With obvious weak spots

candid finch
#

There's the eye, but like... I'm no good at shooting the dot on tanks ._.

sinful bay
#

500Kg it is

#

86222

cobalt patrol
#

For Factory striders

#

The eye and the joints

#

The "eye" is actually pretty big, it's the whole front visor

#

the main threat is their big arse machine guns, take those out asap

#

thankfully the autocaannon/alser cannon peels them off pretty fast

sinful bay
#

ass gun

orchid pulsar
#

<@&1206091872716595200> you know what i want (whatireallyreallywantilltellyouwatiwantwhatireallyreallywantiwannaiwannaiwanna(sorry))

short rune
#

Bless you

keen zinc
#

That's not an annihilator turret

#

Wait wait wait

#

Thats not an annihilator cannon

pastel igloo
#

well they did say new Factory Striders :)

unkempt river
fallen tendon
keen zinc
#

They gave them field artillery cannons

orchid pulsar
supple siren
#

My one Factory Strider want is that they should count as a Base Destruction for Blitzes

undone veldt
glacial light
#

That would be a fun

#

Strider fab mimic

keen zinc
#

I hope these cannons still have the vent weakspots

undone veldt
#

I feel like that’s absolutely gonna be there

#

Every automaton cannon has them

#

It’d feel weird if they didn’t

supple siren
#

I hope we're reminded every 1.5 seconds that we're within Mortar Range

undone veldt
#

So true!

glacial light
glacial light
#

Dear god

#

Sweet lady liberty

keen zinc
#

I want them to mount all the different turret types

#

Shredder, aa turret, mortar turrets

undone veldt
keen zinc
#

Comments are gold

orchid pulsar
glacial light
#

A like multi factory strider thats big enough to climb into and inside would be sick like a halo scarab

keen zinc
unkempt river
#

I am eepy or I would

short rune
#

I would totally watch a livestream of eagle pilots operating on different planets.

glacial light
#

Chat donates 1000 bits so the next 500kg comes in at a steeper angle to hit near the helldiver

short rune
#

That sounds like treason

#

Is the chat from Cyberstan?

glacial light
#

200 requisitions is 200 requisitions

supple siren
#

It's field training, Helldivers need to be prepared for every eventuality

keen zinc
orchid pulsar
#

<@&1206091872716595200> patriots please we got room for two more

short rune
#

Any new orders yet?

orchid pulsar
#

no not yet

keen zinc
#
rxddit.com

I found a friendship bunker and started yelling in chat that someone come over here.
Blue was halfway to extraction, and thus closest to me.
Pink and Orange were at extraction and we only had 10 minutes left.
Orange told blue to go to me.
Blue (the same guy that kept trying kill a bot mortar instead of running away from the hellbomb next ro it) ...

orchid pulsar
#

only personal

fallen tendon
#

no major order, the minor order is 6 secondary objectives

keen zinc
#

I fucking love General Shepherd jokes

orchid pulsar
#

ive never played battlefield

glacial light
#

I think about super eart version of twitch and whether they'd call the viewers patriots, citizens, or voters

#

Instead of chat

short rune
#

Everyone is a patriot.

#

Otherwise you would be dead or on cyberstan for re-education

cobalt patrol
#

GGods

#

this mission is a pile of shit

graceful bluff
strange vine
#

factory striders are now dropping from dropships

graceful bluff
#

(I still find it hilarious that dave van ronk was at stonewall despite afaik not being gay)

#

“I was passing by and I saw what was going down,” he said in an interview, “and I figured, they can’t have a riot without me!” ... “As far as I was concerned,” he said, “anybody who’d stand against the cops was all right with me, and that’s why I stayed in…Every time you turn around the cops were pulling some outrage or another.”

#

"They can't have a riot without me" is just such a line

short rune
#

Pff

#

God, I want to fight on Cyberstan already.

heady halo
supple siren
#

Automatons if they were Serious

short rune
#

I would love to fight against the Strider

strange vine
#

Remember

#

We have the scout strider

short rune
#

Well, it would most likely be a CQC boarding mission.

strange vine
#

And factory strider

#

We haven't seen a War Strider

short rune
#

Replace the factory with a missile silo

strange vine
#

YOU ARE IN RANGE OF ENEMY MISSILES

short rune
#

Me: Any spot of the map

heady halo
#

replace the under side factory with a second cannon, add mortars to the top

undone veldt
short rune
#

Gatling canon

#

GAU Avenger

#

Or make it a long-range flamethrower

quick crown
quick crown
#

** M I S S I L E** M I S S I L E

graceful bluff
quick crown
#

Argueable. (only because my pilot is just scrambled brain wise)

sinful bay
graceful bluff
sinful bay
short rune
#

Did anyone get a cash-out from the last general order?

graceful bluff
#

gonna take a few days like usual

short rune
#

Ah

graceful bluff
quick plinth
#

no raven for sure

modest fiber
#

i so wanna encounter the factory strider.. no such luck yet

graceful bluff
#

There's a mission type now

modest fiber
#

neat

cobalt patrol
#

Yeah, from 4-6 they're an assassinate target now, like bile titans

#

and then after 7 they appear from bot drops etc

glad marsh
#

Oh so that's when they spawn

#

Must be rather rare then

cobalt patrol
#

No? Notg particurly rare in my expierence

#

So far.

orchid pulsar
#

<@&1206091872716595200> room for one more

glad marsh
#

And I play almost exclusively 7s now

cobalt patrol
#

From what i can tell they're a constneallation system thing

#

I had one mission with multple of them dropped in\

#

antoehr with none

heady halo
#

just got strider air dropped on me at the end of a level 7 Automation Eradication defense mission

#

thankfully i was in a mech and a full salvo of mech missiles into a weakpoint seemed to handle it nice and quickly

pastel igloo
#

epic sauce

fallen tendon
#

<@&1206091872716595200> got 1 slot free atm if anyone wants to dive o7

glad marsh
#

Hopefully..

keen zinc
#

Yeah the patch adding them to drops only just dropped somyoull see them soon

heady halo
fallen tendon
#

we had one on difficulty 6 as well ^^

copper crest
glad marsh
cobalt patrol
#

I mean

#

diff 9

#

seems reaosnble

junior badge
#

Isn't the point of diff 9 that it is entirely unreasonable?

modest fiber
#

its the standard helldiver experience, i mean even the name says so

dusky solar
#

It's time for the hmg to shine!

#

It kills factory striders SO fast in the face

cobalt patrol
keen zinc
#

Does the Stalwart have hitmarkers yet

junior badge
#

Those bugs really surprise me - I'd have thought that those are very basic parts of the guns in HD2 and not something that needs a lot of custom code per gun. So them being bugged at all, and then being bugged in a way that isn't a trivial fix, really surprises me.

keen zinc
#

It is really highly confusing and that adds to the irritation

junior badge
#

(or perhaps it is a trivial fix, but the analysis is still big enough that it's being pushed back behind higher priority stuff. But still!)

keen zinc
#

Its so minor but the fact it's not fixed being so minor is crazy

#

It's like a splinter

hot meadow
#

I am absolutely see how that happens tbh

#

(Not a game dev but am a software dev, so)

#

personally I think the once a month warbonds might actually be a bit much for the size of the team they have

junior badge
strange vine
#

the issue with delaying warbonds is that while the playerbase may be amenable we dont know if sony or stakeholders would be

#

also it could be the monthly warbonds are a contractual thing with sony

junior badge
strange vine
#

so they dont have a choice in the matter

hot meadow
honest acorn
#

Monthly content updates is a quite fast pace yeah

barren reef
#

Diff 9s aren't as hard as folk make them out to be. At least the open field missions. The small map 15 missions are a toss up.

The big thing people seem to forget is that sometimes the best option is to ignore the objective and Simply Leave for a while.

hot meadow
#

I think they probably don’t have a choice on warbond releases, but each new batch of 3+ weapons may mean new bugs, etc

#

It is an unenviable position in some ways.

blissful sparrow
#

"This gun doesn't have hitmarkers" and "If you shoot this gun the game crashes" do have slightly different priority

keen zinc
#

One seems like a much simpler fix tho

junior badge
honest acorn
#

Yeah it seems like hitmarkers should be as simple as like a weapon setting toggle

tall stone
#

DoT being borked is way more important than hitmarkers

hot meadow
ionic holly
#

ill be honest i sometimes genuinely forget the game has hitmarkers with how much i ignore them

hot meadow
blissful sparrow
#

i think in our backlog at work we have a ticket for wrong capitalization of a word in a tooltip.
Been there for about 2 months

junior badge
#

They might even be waiting to get some number of small fry fixes, so that they can tell someone to just take a day/week and do them all in one gone.

ionic holly
#

Mhm
its less about effort and more just "okay we have like 8 minutes, work on DOT being bugged"

hot meadow
#

They have some major issues they need to resolve

#

Also I think some bugs are like a poisson process

#

They don’t occur all the time they occur at some rate, but because the player base is so goddam big the raw number is nasty, even if the rate is slow

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A lot of times also there’s a balance within prioritizing where it is like, okay this is a minor bug but it is incredibly embarrassing so it’s high priority and then there’s this bug which is annoying but everyone can live with and then there’s the goddamn horned beetle from hell that is fire damage.

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Also its not like there is "Stalwart doesn't have hitmarkers" and "all other bugs" and you pick to work on one of the 2
its just a long list of tickets that all need work

keen zinc
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So can anyone in game confirm that the Stalwart and HMG still have their prior problems

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I'd rather they work on glitches that, say, stop you from being able to extract at the end of the mission

hot meadow
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Sorry, I have like, lots of thoughts on this. My partner is a project manager and I’m an engineer so I think a lot about these kinds of processes lol

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It may also be worth noting they are using an engine made by fatshark, bought and shitted up by Autodesk, then discontinued in 2018.

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I would not be surprised if fixing fire means major updates to the engine itself

hot meadow
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If the horned beetles from hell keep coming up, or there’s stuff that’s seriously embarrassing (even if minor) that will literally always get prioritized over the minor annoying thing if everybody’s even slightly rational.

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hot meadow
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Ya. I really admire the dev team for what they’ve accomplished but err

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The sheer audience size has got to be problematic

tall stone
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Especially since they didn't think they'd get this size of audience.

keen zinc
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Agreed agreed stuff that is being prioritized is what should be prioritized

hot meadow
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Also their dev team is probably a little too small, but fixing that is a long term goal not a short term goal unless you want worse bugs IME

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ive done a bit of game dev and its worth noting that sometimes its stupid, and things you would THINK are simple really arent

keen zinc
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But just in case, can anyone confirm the status of the hitmarkers in game

heady halo
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i didnt notice them being there or not when i used the guns yesterday

honest acorn
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I can't I'm at work

keen zinc
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I am at worm

heady halo
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its the hmg and stalwart right?

keen zinc
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Work

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Ye

heady halo
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i think i got time for another game rn i can see

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keen zinc
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A tiny issue left for a long time can become a sore spot for the community

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Yeah, exactly.

blissful sparrow
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i do have a handful of tickets in our backlog earmarked for our next apprentice to bite their teeth on

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It is useful to have low-prio tasks for getting new team members up to speed.

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yeah looks like no aim thing on the hmg or hitmarkers

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