#Helldivers 2: For Managed Democracy!
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But that doesn't mean anything if a single pixel of flame makes me drop dead from full health
Oh yeah
yeah
Love stun users
Bullpup Dominator
Arc throwers too
I will use it as a club (to kill you)
The only possible use for that abomination
honestly... that looks mostly ok to me
Also Dominator and Eruptor share the same gun body
Yeah the humongous magazine that close to the hand doesn't work
Bullpup fans when you try to explain egonomic necessity for holding a rifle for 16 hours
god
Or reloading in the prone
Yeah that seems like the biggest problem with them honestly
Bullpups have a perfect spot as urban combat special purpose weapons. They are substandard battlefield weapons (in my opinion)
Have you held one?
Yes
The dominator is already sort of nightmarish looking for ergonomics so making it shorter might be nice
But that magazine doesn't work
They're fun to shoot and definitely have all the upsides that people praise them for
But people just go deaf when it's like yeah it's nice to shoot but I don't want to hold that in patrol position for hours
Wrist pain
Or try to maintain a sight picture in the prone while reloading
Because youd have to fucking plank
And you generally wanna stay as low as possible
Also tactical reloads in the high ready are more tricky
Still doable but not as fluid as standard
I have infantry brain when it comes to guns
I don't think of how good it shoot so much as do I wanna carry that all day every day
But for urban ops, hell yeah I want a bullpup with a short as fuck barrel
less stuff for a dude around a corner to grab and yank
A magwell is a great place to get hauled to the ground and shot from behind a door
Amko don't post a wall of text for a minor tangent challenge impossible
Not mutually exclusive
You should play whatever makes your heart sing
i've gotten all of the basic-sample-only upgrades?
Do what you want you can theoretically handle 9s with only gear you get at like level 8 or lower
It will admittedly be very hard without the extra hours of game sense that more practice gives but in terms of weapons you’ve got what you need early
I would perhaps shoot more rifles if I hadn't learnt to shoot guns with a shitty cadet version of the SA80A1, which is the bad one
I shot the SA80A3 some years later and it was much less infuriating but damn
genuinely impressive that we made a gun which falls apart if it gets wet
and fires on average three rounds before breaking
and were like "yep seems good give it to the troops"
a lot of that was that the factory making the first model of the SA80 told all the workers they would be laid off soon
as such, they didn't have a great motivation to address things like "build quality"
but this was also the same war as "minesweeping is when you plough an unlucky frigate through the area where we think there are mines and hope they hit enough of them to clear the way"
misc how on earth did you get your hands on an sa80a3
just had pelican betray us
wouldn't let us in the doors
tried desperately for 4m to get in and we just couldn't.
Funny moment
The crossbow feels shockingly nice
It's really good
its good stuff
might have been an A2, it was the Current Nice One
scouts getting pulled into the Cadets Get Shown Army Things in my area
I love how the grenade pistol is just an underbarrel gl given to the divers as a standalone weapon
Yearp
This is gonna be Death one of these days
@shrewd tiger
As I always say
The piss don't miss.
Don't much care for the piss but maybe one with a surprise stalker and 500kg or something
It'll happen someday
Statistically it is assured
Same as everything else
50/50 either it happens or it doesn't
It is satisfying as hell to quick shot chargers in the face with missiles.
listening to We Are The Helldivers again
gonna play some more with friends tomorrow hopefully
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i'm quite fond of this one
it gets the propaganda vibe quite well
oh hey JY
he's good some good powermetal vibes
though his leans more towards bits of other genres so it has a unique sound to it
Good for them but jeeze such a sorry state people put themselves in for a game they dont even seem to enjoy
Lotta similar stories in comments
i wonder if we'll see a big shift away from zero sum games
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can't wait until they let us have super super destroyers
It’s just two super destroyers taped together
Super Duper Destroyer...
It drops the 1000kg metric ton eagle strike
delivered by two eagles taped together
What do you think would happen if you referred to super earth command as chat?
Probably depends how combat effective you are
"Oh that's just Magma, they went a little crazy and now they think they're a Vtuber. Yeah, we let them call us up on the destroyer 'chat' and they keep coming back with Ws, so we're not questioning it."
Hey Voters and Patriots, it your president.
The destroyer is chat, Pelican 1 is twitch and Eagle 1 is mods
Hey Eagle One can we ban the next automaton fabricator that creates communism thanks
Just send a stream of bullets at whatever problem, yeah
Stalwart the primary support weapon
I read a post on Reddit praising the precision strike and they brought up a good point that precision and 500kg are kind of very similar overall
Same building destruction, similar time from calling in to exploding, similar damage radius
And also stun grenades followed up by precision seem good
i love precision strike
I'm addicted to 380
technically the precision strike is a 380
This is why I run them both with stuns
I think my new loadout will include precision and stuns and will be very different from how I play now
Impact stun grenade please
something to toss at an area to stun targets but could immediately be attacked
nah the stun grenade we have has, like, a lingering stun
30 minute mission.
level 7.
guy drops a 500 kg on the shuttle and kills everyone right as the timer ends
host kicked everyone, which was unsurprising
still, that's enough helldivers for the night!
I think something funny would be stagger grenades that staggers enemies for a moment but you get double tbe amount
Throw them maliciously
you should honestly play with people here more, Steamed
i really dislike showboaters who throw the mission for cool factor
Death at least usually only risks his own hide
I wish they made pelican helldivers invincible
you are probably correct
regardless, the game was otherwise
fun
I am very happy at how smooth 7s feel for me now
There's like no way to stop something from killing yoh as someone in the pelican seat which is a shame
there's a lot of potential griefing right at the end of the mission
this one was notable only because frankly I've experienced almost none, which speaks well of the community
It's like a minor thing I feel like they could add easily enough, how many story point could it be 8?
Me the software developer with the worst ability to gauge dev time
I am back to build crafting a jack of all trades build I'll won't swap out from for like a few weeks.
Thinking medium medic armor, stun grenades, eruptor, grenade pistol
Precision stike, shield pack, arc thrower or laser cannon, and one yet to be decided
I am open to suggestions, might be eschew the shield pack if I can get better at surviving
Eruptor wants laser cannon
and i'd swap shield pack for jetpack
i'd probably add 500kgs there
thoguh i drop the g renade pistol for redeemer
and you basically have my bot build
Why laser cannon specifically
Grenade pistol plus eruptor might be a bit much
Leaves you without ultra-close range options
Unless you’re fine with eruptor self-damage
I will simply refuse to switch off from arc thrower or laser cannon
Depending on which one I like better
Laser cannon handles everything that Eruptor cant and is highly flexible.
You use it to kill tanks/hulks/turrets and as an ddtioanl chaff clearer
also deletes gunships
Laser cannon is pretty variable in what it can handle.
It can mob clear just as easily as it can handle bigger threats.
Blasting off hulk arms, handling tanks...
It’s also really good for shriekers
It’s surprisingly good for all anti air needs
laser cannon feels great after the buffs
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yeah its was pure ass on launch haha
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I've also found it is really easy to bullseye devastator heads.
Much easier than shooting them with your primary, for some reason, maybe evne easier than the AMR
it's really easy to "walk" the laser onto weakpoints ime
Laser cannon used to be my go-to for bots early in my hell diving career
Maybe it’s time to revisit it (beyond that one time I tried to revisit it, had a bad game, then ditched it again lmao)
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Laser Cannon is a monster now, and on ice planets it can just fire so long it's comedy
Btw, something that you don’t notice about guns till you don’t have it? Flashlights
Dropping into a night mission with no flashlights is a special kind of annoyance
I do wonder what makes them decide which gun gets a light or not
Always a bummer to have no options on R
Now, sometimes in hazy/foggy conditions flashlights can be a liability, but at least you have the option
Another benefit of the Laser Cannon: It makes light
It’s just a big flashlight, really
One that can kill hulks if you shine the light in their eyes
Legit I actually used it as a big, damaging flashlight once
chat was like "can't see, can anyone light them up"
Also thanks to chat again for the 380 explanation, I used it to clear a heavy nest without having to be there. big fan now
I had a mission where i kept using it on heavy nests
and kept coming b ack to find dead bile titans
So I decided to play onnnnnee more mission with randos tonight, to try to end on a good note
it was great!
highlight tho was dropping into a really bad spot, with stalkers climbing up the collective team's butt crack
I figured out the direction they were coming from, hucked a 380 with my servo arm, and a few seconds later...
STALKER LAIR DESTROYED
@oblique hazel Did you crash too?
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damn
I think the game got very un happy at 500kg AND laser AND wild hell bomb all going off at the same time
Man some people are so aggressive on 7s, like shooting every bot they see haha
I've been politely asking people to let me solo tonight
had a few times where i had a random come with me and then open up on every patrol that got within 80 meters
Also arc thrower NEEDS to have its goofy "oops teehee the bolt is getting stopped by foliage/corpses/thin air" behavior fixed before i will take it again vs bots
Arc thrower, shield, eruptor is pretty good. I still think autocannon is the best overall blue strat for bots though
Oh also, mortar turret is broken vs bots
Patrol gonna catch you due to some factor? Throw the mortar into some cover relative to them and watch them all die shooting at a rock
It'd be more tolerant of the misfires if it was clear what was causing it so I could work around it.
the issue with the arc thrower is that it sometimes refuses to arc to targets in clear view
those are misfires yeah
I think the one complaint i have with the crossbow currently is the inability to container pop
I don't even need it to pop outposts, i'll deal without, but no container popping hurts

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woo yeah medium medic armour
sorry
finally we get some
engineering kit????
¯_(ツ)_/¯
for gods sake all i want is a heavy engineering kit.
Trademark AH fuckywucky
i'm tired boss
If going by the prefix of armors, a lot of them are mislabeled/have the wrong passive effect.
I mean I assume it was an mistake on the site
Fixed an issue that resulted in different damage being dealt enemies between PC and console players.
Would be nice if they said which it got changed to
the correct one
See but this one also has the medic paint job and is literally named "clinician"
which site is this
need to get a new good looking throw medium then
Checking with Reddit posts, the Medic Armor seems to have the Medic passive in-game? Or got hotfixed really fast.
https://old.reddit.com/r/Helldivers/comments/1c5bh5f/new_armor_in_mag/
Wish you could see the patch notes without joining their damn discord
ah so my steam just isn't playing nice
I have never been able to get it to show patch notes for this game for as long as I've been playing
never had trouble with any others
Could always check a prior post from the game and just scroll up, unless it's just completely not showing up
ah that did work! thanks!
had to go down to the new warbond announcement, thats the only post actually in my feed for this game normally, but it did work
Bizarre.
But yay workaround!
I do it often cause I know sometimes the library feed is sluggish as hell
But yeah surely that heavy engineer armour is just right around the corner
Ooft that went slower before i sent it, my bad
another light fortified armor with the same armkr value?
and another medium armor kit? / medic?
hell the light armor has the same frickin color scheme as the other one
Trying to recall all perks MIA from heavy currently
I think it's just scout, engineering kit, and arc resistance? might be forgetting one
Oh, democracy protects
so solid 2/4 that i can 100% never being added
so where's my DP and EK?
Democracy protects should be some goofy looking parade armor with oversized pauldrons
heavy stealth isn't there either
To make you feel like a facist storm trooper
I think they added new armour to the store today?
scout is the stealth passive, and I'd be very surprised to see it on heavy armor tbh
I think there is a medium set that has it
there is yes
and heavy+stealth would be a really nice combo since stealth gets punished less by the sprint loss
I wish the two attributes were separated for each set
Like Scout was like: Detect enemies and 30% stealth
Scout is stealth
Shit just saw you caught that
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oh that's a neat new thing
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I am trying to recognize her accent.
It'a hard cause it's so light.
I should say cute AND hillarious.
21.3% damn thats higher than I remembered for survival rate
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Oh, the order ends in 20 minutes
I wonder if we get instantly a new one
I hope it involves Cyberstan
I mean there was a 6gb patch that totally didn't have a bunch of new stuff in it
just a couple of fixes, promise
anyway still need 2 in squad 2
Hit the gym. You must keep your body in good shape for spreading democracy
(All my personal orders have either bot related or adjacent)
ex AMR kills)
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Give us the robot enemies city
Technically cyborgs
They may complement the robot forces which would be scary.
APCs, Legionaries, Abominations
Butchers
Pyro soldiers
Hounds
The rest is relatively identical.
Give me the APC 😔
i miss that clunky mofo
Oh man, I realize that the best extension of the concept of the gunner loader weapons is a tank/APC with multiple positions
in HD1 there was multiple vehicles with seperate driver and gunner positions
Unpopular opinion. I loved the MC-109
Aw shit I totally forgot they were already like that, I haven't touched HD1 in years
But I figure they'll wait a while before adding that kind of thing back in
i figure the terrain would also make it difficult
Unless, of course, they gave us spider tanks
we've already seen the APC and a dune buggy with a roof MG in leaked footage
Next to the wrecks
I also saw the Emancipator Exo
I shame they are changing the Lumberer
Also hackers have called in WIP of the dune buggy and apc
-.-
And tried to pass it off as a ‘glitch’
Pff
So they are in the files as WIP
APC is 2x stalwart on the sides, driver, and autocannon gunner
Dune buggy has HMG I think?
APC is relatively identical to the M5 then
I would like to be a cyborg
No more tooth ache
Riiight. I just gotta report that to the Democracy Officer.
And there is also that theory that the Automatons have human brains in them
I am sapient
The Sickle loses to leaf 
I want more smgs
More one-handed weapons would be great
Or melees
With the ballistic shield a melee would be entirely viable
Agreed
Weapon upgrades would also be great so I can finally get the bayonet
I want to try the grenade pistol + ballistic shield but I think I just gonna be disappointed ;w;
Great
||Factory striders dropped by dropships||
rapid photosynthesis
Oh no, it Empowers the leafs
Menkent foliage doesnt die to something as feeble as lasers
Can't wait for the Lumberer.
Genghis in Helldivers
The robots didn't build the Flamer hulk just to fight us, There is a reason they built it with a buzzsaw AND a flamethrower

Foliage management.
Hell yeah!
Hey so what Does and doesn't kill the bunkers
Is it just 500 and hellbomb?
380 didnt seem to do it
the ground breaker armour is peak now it has Engineering Kit
It has a huge amount of health and multiple points that need to be destroyed
Usually a 120+380 can destroy a command bunker
500kg can help to hit a specific turret/sponson that the arty missed
ah so you have go round and just kill everythin
orbital laser can take care of a bunker pretty well too
Like maybe uh, enviromental resistance or so
after I learned some of the safer spots to approach at I might just stick to hellbombing it but damn I guess my 380s just didnt have good RNG on the salvos
orbital laser does
needs to focus on it for a while though
So, Spears pretty OK at killing striders? I've not gotten to shoot at one yet
Intel is highly spotty
They were rare during first encounter
So knowledge on how to take them down is kinda "hit it with a lot of stuff"
I imagine a good old L-Ambush-Formation should do
Don't be in front of it
And take out the turret fast
Those dual multilaser cannons on the front will mince you
the funniest thing i heard is that apparently eagle clusters oneshot striders
shrapnel getting everywhere
a sacrifice i'm willing to make
A sacrifice in the name of liberty and democracy no less
Jerks had it ocmming
i don't run eagle clusters, i only teamkill with orbital bursts
Either hit them with full stuff, or brave boy that shit and kill it EDF style
Get underneath and fire explosives and throw grenades into it's guts when it's spawning Devastators
Yeah, you gotta attack it from the side with two folks using heavy weapons and then flank it from the back with two further
Regardless, you cannot maintain a defensive position against it
How do you solo it?
You need to attack it
EDF technique assumedly
By running away
Get under it and huck grenades into it's guts when it's spawning devs
I imagine you can also just drop 500s on it
thank
So if one whiffs you gotta wait for anotherb
Baiting to a hellbomb could also work
If you want to play bait for the mighty battle camel
Can I stick the strategem to myself I forget
Pff
throw it straight up and land it on your personal shield
I will deliver the payload let's go
Can't wait for Shredder and mortar variants
Count as mobile AA guns and mortar batteries
C'mon AH
I want the range of enemy artillery to slowly get closer
Give them a bigger radius too. ^^
Same for MG emplacements.
And enemy snipers would also be great
May you live to regret Illuminate Snipers.
I think their assassins are worse?
Besides that, keep in mind how much the Illus rely on shock weapons.
Just wear arch resistant armour
What if they start using plasma?
Overcome it. Like everything else.
Precision isn't really the Automatons thing
They're more "level that hill to kill a guy on top of it" type warfare
Same
Stormtroopers
They crush you under weight of firepower and then assault with chainsaws and flamethrowers
Weight of firepower
They don't shoot very accurately they just shoot a lot
You only notice when it hits you
But it misses more often than not
Ah
It;'s very easy to see how inaccurate they are when you;'re stealthy
Accuracy via volume
they just shoot vaugely in the direction that they thought things were
it's only really heavy devs and MG raiders who manage to be at all accuracte
Which is kinda funny tbh
Videogame logic tells me the guy with the shield and gatling cannon will miss a lot
Then
Nope, that shield must be a great stabilizer
Robort goes "hey check out this aimbot"
They're robots so it could have locked joints just to stabilize the gun from the weight of the shield
The entire thing is a walking stabilizer
Not very stable when you shoot them with propelled 20mm
A walking mounted machine gun
Metal Gear...
You're up against the wall and he is the fucking wall
Imagine they also were faster now and had an autoshotgun. ^^
I just want a laser SMG to go with my ballistic shield so I can add the big chonk armor
I lost respect for devs altogether since I got the Eruptor.
I wonder how it'll perform
Their faces are too exposed to be dangerous Amko
I hope beam lasers get buffed before it drops
Silly bot don't recognize the reason we Helldivers wear helmets
Punisher makes all devs nothing
Still hoping they add the M2016 at some point.
well...
I need 2 headshots for a dev while they only need 1...
It's basically guaranteed for liberty day
October
Railsniping was made for devastators s2g
I love my railgun
I would also love the AR-19 variant of the Liberator with a better scope
Pls
Due to budget constraints the Liberty Day Constitution is purely decorative
Kills you
Nah
Super Earth goes into civil war
Every citizen gets a Constitution on their 16th birthday
With bayonet so we can bayonet-charge them fishes and robots
Blowing on a whistle and the entire squad charges with bayonets on bolt action rifles
on your 16th birthday, be patient
I want a beam weapon that can be switched to a charged pulse
Like you overload the battery for a big shot
DBS-Doublefreedom is not the shotgun we find on the map, yes?
Dunno, I do like that shotgun tho
Sawed off variant
Sweet liberty
I really hope they didn't condense upgrades down to different weapon variants.
I don't think that could work
Autocannons akimbo
Mechanically
factory striders actually have a p big weakpoint on the head
I think the autocannons barrel is part of its firing mechanism
theres a strip of medium armor around its eye and a strip in the middle of its head
Hmm, jumpjet on their backs?
you can kill it with autocannon, laser cannon, etc. fairly quickly hitting that
Laser cannon stay winning
Laser cannon 😌
I assume it has Hulk face armor level
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So can't use Machine-Gun
that green bit on the thumbnail on the head is a strip of medium armor
Neither Eruptor.
Also obligatory can someone tell me if Stalwart has hitmarkers yet
Havent tested it yet
"Downed"
Wait so when your HP hit zero you didn't insta die in HD1?
No
Yet get downed and can still fight with your sidearm
Granted enemies will try to finish you off that way
Though HD1 didn't had multiple hellpods. When all of you die at the same time its pretty much over
you were also screenlocked to a single screen
Yep
so everyone was always close together
actually was a pretty cool mechanic to have completely seamless local coop and online coop
oh cool
Makes the Helldivers feel more like an elite unit that way
And not fooder like in 2
They were better trained too
tho the game design did get a bit weird with patrols and such still working essentially exactly the same, but now the devs can't rely anymore on everyone being at most a screen apart from each other
Helldivers 1 training was much more advanced and less lethal than it is now
You were still kinda cannon fodder. HD1 kinda plays a couple years after Helldivers became a standard unit without many specialized branches
Yeah but the tutorial is a much more invested thingn
Has a much lower fatality rate
And has a robots and holograms for training assistance
its amusing cause for the most part the tutorial is almost identical
Prior to the galactic war Helldivers also were often deployed against humans.
"Now we have REAL guns and REAL bugs!"
when i did the HD2 tutorial i immediately recognized the room layout
oh...
Assumedly they weren't quite as expendible then
Before SE kinda started a three fronted war.
But with the constant training and cryo freezing and spiking population and war economy
Helldivers have just become ammunition for the war machine
The first hellpods were used to drop directly into a human parliament which wasnt part of Super Earth.
IIRC
Yeah. Used to slaughter a dissident government
And not like military leadership
Dropped into their parliament and killed everyone
Very cool and not fascist at all
I vaguely remember that some helldiver branch was also used for domestic issues like protests.
Which is unsurprisingly not legal
C-
Can I join the Automatons yet?
No, and for this you will be reported to the Democracy Officer and executed.
Because we are a managed democracy and dont want to bother with politics.
is this treason i smell?
People that protested against the war against Cyberstan were all executed
makes sense
SOUNDS LIKE SOMEONE NEEDS A REMINDER OF WHAT FREEDOM IS ALL ABOUT
As cyborg sympathisers.
to an extent it's not wrong but it's also comically evil
?
Also the "terrorist attacks" committed by "cyborg agents" killed like
How many people?
Like a dozen?
Lemme doublecheck
Iirc
you are sympathising with the Cyborgs but also Super Earth absolutely was just justifying going to war with Cyberstan cause they wanted to
YOU WILL NEVER CATCH ME ALIVE
Well I missed my only two shots, I will surrender now
They definitely did the terrorism and framed the Cyborgs for it
8 Citizens
is the gameplay-based implication that Super Earth would've won the war a long time ago if they weren't so hilariously wasteful and inefficient part of the satire?
Which was an insight job as it conveniently happened shortly after the government of cyberstan announced their sovereignty.
Who had no clear connection to the attack other than the person having cybernetics
good justification for genocide war /j
Super Earth loves false flags
Also, everyone on Cyberstan needed these enhancements to survive the rough climate and the mines.
It's not like they did out out of ideological reasons
They only got more extreme and militarized to resist super earths assault
Super Earth makes its enemies worse.
Just like the bugs became more feral and wild
They used to be an intelligent and peaceful species.
The Illuminate are going to be back all fucked up and spiteful
ah yes, "I can make him worse 😻" - Super Earth President
We killed their knowledge gathering peaceful culture
Yep. They prolly dropped their scholarship to became fierce warriors
And as a fourth faction, maybe dissidents themselves.
big funnies that Super Earth dropped a bunch of propaganda saying that the knowledge and peace people were awful barbaric warriors and waged war on them
which probably made them awful barbaric warriors to survive
10 years of galactic war and 100 years of exile did
They're gonna come back less as scholars and priests and more as strategists and paladins
imperial conquest forces the conquered into increasingly desperate straits, which in turn is used to justify further imperial oppression?
Or worse
perish the thought
AS LIBERALS?!

Is there something worse than communism for Super Earth?
Warlords and cultists
Oh joy
Dissetants that want to abolish the 7 days per week work schedule
I mean the two kinda go together. They're hilarious wasteful and inefficient because they're fascists; if they weren't fascists, they wouldn't be fighting this forever war in the first place.
Abolish the 7 day work week for an 8 day work week
Social score -3000
Honestly the inefficiency is probably intentionally left as is to fuel the war economy replacing the massive equipment losses
And keep up recruitment
Please report to your public execution
"They, Abolish the 20 hour work day and 7 day work week that we rely on"
The weapon is worth more than the diver firing it
"Enlist today"
something something "we have always been at war with Cyberstan"
Except Cyberstan is a gulag for people now which ironically become cyborgs to survive Cyberstan
So super earth turns people into Cyborgs
Why would you want to stop losing men and materiel if you can use their deaths and equipment losses as justification for increased war spending and encourage recruitment
And every weapon lost keeps a weapon manufacturer working! It's a job creator!
Which leads to the cyborgs rebelling, and then another war
Hence. "We have always been at war with cyberstan"
Well right now they are very likely joining the Automatons
it seems extremely likely
It's one hell of a family reunion
Who wouldn't?
Pretty sure the cyborgs like, made the automatons?
They did
They are very proud of their kids for their successful campaign against Super Earth
Either that or the Automatons are a splinter group of radicals that entirely laid off the rest human they had
Nah there was a binary message that confirmed the Automatons as the Cyborgs "children"
everyone knows that red eyes are the sign of an evil robot
They are based on what the cyborgs looked like
And the Cyborgs looked like that because they had to
probably would have been worth investing in some different color lighting for the eyes
Well no
Red is a very good color for lights
Hence why military flashlights have red lenses
For low light
Super earth would have found some excuse to kill and enslave liberate them
Some other excuse that is
this looks like it worships Khorne
Super Earth makes its enemies worse and no doubt the Automatons fucking hate Super Earth
And want to strike fear in SEAF personnel
oh they absolutely hate Super Earth
Definitely an improvement to be fair
Chainsaw skullbot no doubt causes routs amongst SEAF soldiers when they assault the trenches
that is incredibly evil looking
I want that strogg asthetic to come back to HD2
Ehhh
It works for a stylized and zoomed out game
Less so for an up close and more realistic aesthetic
As it runs into censorship issues in many countries
IIRC those were surgeons or so
makes sense
wait what
I mean
Original Necron lore was Chaos Machines
So hey
The super earth work day is 20 hours with only 4 hours for rest
And you do that all 7 days of the week
Legionaries, should the cyborgs ever join Automatons
Also doggos
Yeah, I could only see dedicated cyborg combatants joining the battlefield, the rest taking up rear echelon research and development type stuff
How much sleep does a person need witb stims anyways? You can sleep during your allotted 15 per day
But I doubt the cyborgs will join the field in number
They certainly force me to tactically relocate
They're going to be protected by the Automatons
I wish the jump pack extinguished fire like it used to
It sucks to be lit on fire mid flight
Can't stim or dive
Every time I play HD1 I forget these fucking things exist
Honestly I don't forsee a lot of the "desperation" units returning if any do
The cyborgs don't need to take to the front
Thats a good point. I just feel like these specifically would complement the Automatons
Grotesques we're a desperation unit
Berserkers and Air Raiders do the same job better
But without expending cyborg lives
Factory Striders have made a resurgence on the Automaton front. These imposing, massive support dreadnoughts now threaten freedom and democracy throughout the galactic rim.
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They are just a bigger target that explodes just as well as smaller targets
honestly they need to stop cooking long enough for a smoko at this point. Ceaseless Cooking.
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They are beefy and armoured from what I've seen
There's the eye, but like... I'm no good at shooting the dot on tanks ._.
For Factory striders
The eye and the joints
The "eye" is actually pretty big, it's the whole front visor
the main threat is their big arse machine guns, take those out asap
thankfully the autocaannon/alser cannon peels them off pretty fast
ass gun
Wait
<@&1206091872716595200> you know what i want (whatireallyreallywantilltellyouwatiwantwhatireallyreallywantiwannaiwannaiwanna(sorry))
Bless you
well they did say new Factory Striders :)
If you wanna be my 'diver, you will have to SPILL OIL FOR MANAGED DEMOCRACY!!
mind if I hop in after I boot up?
They gave them field artillery cannons
yeh no prob
My one Factory Strider want is that they should count as a Base Destruction for Blitzes
Imagine if you bomb a fab and it survives then it just starts walking towards you
That would be a fun
Strider fab mimic
I hope these cannons still have the vent weakspots
I feel like that’s absolutely gonna be there
Every automaton cannon has them
It’d feel weird if they didn’t
I hope we're reminded every 1.5 seconds that we're within Mortar Range
So true!
I'm not suffering enough the mortars should drop cluster munitions
I want them to mount all the different turret types
Shredder, aa turret, mortar turrets
I imagine this is what the Arrowhead devs hear in their head whenever they see something like this
ya wanna/have the opportunity to join?
A like multi factory strider thats big enough to climb into and inside would be sick like a halo scarab
I am eepy or I would
I would totally watch a livestream of eagle pilots operating on different planets.
Chat donates 1000 bits so the next 500kg comes in at a steeper angle to hit near the helldiver
200 requisitions is 200 requisitions
It's field training, Helldivers need to be prepared for every eventuality
<@&1206091872716595200> patriots please we got room for two more
Any new orders yet?
no not yet
I found a friendship bunker and started yelling in chat that someone come over here.
Blue was halfway to extraction, and thus closest to me.
Pink and Orange were at extraction and we only had 10 minutes left.
Orange told blue to go to me.
Blue (the same guy that kept trying kill a bot mortar instead of running away from the hellbomb next ro it) ...
only personal
no major order, the minor order is 6 secondary objectives
I fucking love General Shepherd jokes
ive never played battlefield
I think about super eart version of twitch and whether they'd call the viewers patriots, citizens, or voters
Instead of chat
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Factory Striders have made a resurgence on the Automaton front. These imposing, massive support dreadnoughts now threaten freedom and democracy throughout the galactic rim.
factory striders are now dropping from dropships
(I still find it hilarious that dave van ronk was at stonewall despite afaik not being gay)
“I was passing by and I saw what was going down,” he said in an interview, “and I figured, they can’t have a riot without me!” ... “As far as I was concerned,” he said, “anybody who’d stand against the cops was all right with me, and that’s why I stayed in…Every time you turn around the cops were pulling some outrage or another.”
"They can't have a riot without me" is just such a line
cmooon (i want this mission that doesnt exist yet) new level 9 mission "ambush bot assault spearhead" consisting of like 3+ factory striders protected by a wave of tanks and infantry, which moves diagonally across a large map, you have to destroy it before it leaves
Automatons if they were Serious
I would love to fight against the Strider
Well, it would most likely be a CQC boarding mission.
Replace the factory with a missile silo
YOU ARE IN RANGE OF ENEMY MISSILES
Me: Any spot of the map
replace the under side factory with a second cannon, add mortars to the top
“Helldivers, the automaton have hired barbarous traitorous mercenaries with advanced mechs.”
I mean that doesn't go well for them either though 
Acecombat/Projectwingman flashbacks
** M I S S I L E** M I S S I L E
Because they had to deal with a nugget floating in liquid crack piloting an incredibly stupid strong mech :v
Argueable. (only because my pilot is just scrambled brain wise)
What has borders given us
Pelican doesn't call me buddy in a personal video he sent me, still worse than ace combat
But I know who will always call me Buddy
Did anyone get a cash-out from the last general order?
gonna take a few days like usual
Ah
Rusty's good but no Pixy
no raven for sure
i so wanna encounter the factory strider.. no such luck yet
There's a mission type now
neat
Yeah, from 4-6 they're an assassinate target now, like bile titans
and then after 7 they appear from bot drops etc
<@&1206091872716595200> room for one more
I guess I've just got horrible luck, cause I've still never seen one
And I play almost exclusively 7s now
From what i can tell they're a constneallation system thing
I had one mission with multple of them dropped in\
antoehr with none
just got strider air dropped on me at the end of a level 7 Automation Eradication defense mission
thankfully i was in a mech and a full salvo of mech missiles into a weakpoint seemed to handle it nice and quickly
epic sauce
<@&1206091872716595200> got 1 slot free atm if anyone wants to dive o7
Huh..
I suppose I'll see them eventually then.
Hopefully..
Yeah the patch adding them to drops only just dropped somyoull see them soon
theres also a specifically "find and destroy factory strider" mission you can look for on difficulty 9 now
we had one on difficulty 6 as well ^^
Till: "I've had terrible luck, I never get to see them..."
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Isn't the point of diff 9 that it is entirely unreasonable?
its the standard helldiver experience, i mean even the name says so
It's time for the hmg to shine!
It kills factory striders SO fast in the face
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Reasonably unreasonble.
Does it have crosshairs or hitmarkers now?
Does the Stalwart have hitmarkers yet
Those bugs really surprise me - I'd have thought that those are very basic parts of the guns in HD2 and not something that needs a lot of custom code per gun. So them being bugged at all, and then being bugged in a way that isn't a trivial fix, really surprises me.
It is really highly confusing and that adds to the irritation
(or perhaps it is a trivial fix, but the analysis is still big enough that it's being pushed back behind higher priority stuff. But still!)
I am absolutely see how that happens tbh
(Not a game dev but am a software dev, so)
personally I think the once a month warbonds might actually be a bit much for the size of the team they have
What's your wild guess for it? (By which I mean we're all just speculating, and I'd like to hear your take.)
the issue with delaying warbonds is that while the playerbase may be amenable we dont know if sony or stakeholders would be
also it could be the monthly warbonds are a contractual thing with sony
This I agree with. I can see why someone would say 1 / months is too slow, though... But it was always going to be a challenge to stick to a monthly schedule for this size of team.
so they dont have a choice in the matter
That there are other large tickets that are repeatedly prioritized over them, so the small stuff literally never gets fixed. Or that it’s so small no one ever wants to even slot it in.
Monthly content updates is a quite fast pace yeah
Diff 9s aren't as hard as folk make them out to be. At least the open field missions. The small map 15 missions are a toss up.
The big thing people seem to forget is that sometimes the best option is to ignore the objective and Simply Leave for a while.
I think they probably don’t have a choice on warbond releases, but each new batch of 3+ weapons may mean new bugs, etc
It is an unenviable position in some ways.
"This gun doesn't have hitmarkers" and "If you shoot this gun the game crashes" do have slightly different priority
One seems like a much simpler fix tho
Oh, right, in the sense that even a 15 mins fix actually needs someone to sit down for those 15 mins, which they don't get, what with all the big stuff. Yeah, that would make sense too.
Yeah it seems like hitmarkers should be as simple as like a weapon setting toggle
DoT being borked is way more important than hitmarkers
Yeah absolutely! I don’t even think they’re making the wrong choices, just that I suspect some of the small ones will be around for a really long time.
ill be honest i sometimes genuinely forget the game has hitmarkers with how much i ignore them
Yup and then they have PRs and stuff I’m sure so it’s never just 15 minutes, really.
i think in our backlog at work we have a ticket for wrong capitalization of a word in a tooltip.
Been there for about 2 months
They might even be waiting to get some number of small fry fixes, so that they can tell someone to just take a day/week and do them all in one gone.
Mhm
its less about effort and more just "okay we have like 8 minutes, work on DOT being bugged"
They have some major issues they need to resolve
Also I think some bugs are like a poisson process
They don’t occur all the time they occur at some rate, but because the player base is so goddam big the raw number is nasty, even if the rate is slow
A lot of times also there’s a balance within prioritizing where it is like, okay this is a minor bug but it is incredibly embarrassing so it’s high priority and then there’s this bug which is annoying but everyone can live with and then there’s the goddamn horned beetle from hell that is fire damage.
Also its not like there is "Stalwart doesn't have hitmarkers" and "all other bugs" and you pick to work on one of the 2
its just a long list of tickets that all need work
So can anyone in game confirm that the Stalwart and HMG still have their prior problems
I'd rather they work on glitches that, say, stop you from being able to extract at the end of the mission
Sorry, I have like, lots of thoughts on this. My partner is a project manager and I’m an engineer so I think a lot about these kinds of processes lol
It may also be worth noting they are using an engine made by fatshark, bought and shitted up by Autodesk, then discontinued in 2018.
Big mood. I have plenty of friends who work in programming, so I get to hear stories about what they go through for their stuff.
Oh and an important detail here is that that middle annoying bug may literally never be fixed.
I would not be surprised if fixing fire means major updates to the engine itself
If the horned beetles from hell keep coming up, or there’s stuff that’s seriously embarrassing (even if minor) that will literally always get prioritized over the minor annoying thing if everybody’s even slightly rational.
All good. I think there's a lot of people in at least related fields here, so yanno - lots of sympathy.
Oof, yeah, that's a good point. It might well be that.
Ya. I really admire the dev team for what they’ve accomplished but err
The sheer audience size has got to be problematic
Especially since they didn't think they'd get this size of audience.
Agreed agreed stuff that is being prioritized is what should be prioritized
Also their dev team is probably a little too small, but fixing that is a long term goal not a short term goal unless you want worse bugs IME
ive done a bit of game dev and its worth noting that sometimes its stupid, and things you would THINK are simple really arent
But just in case, can anyone confirm the status of the hitmarkers in game
i didnt notice them being there or not when i used the guns yesterday
I can't I'm at work
I am at worm
its the hmg and stalwart right?
i think i got time for another game rn i can see
I'll say that some teams will try and set aside time for a bundle of the lesser priorities every couple of months, because people still get really mad over those, and they can become embarrassing just by how long they've been around if you don't.
That's imo the best compromise you can make - if you at all can.
just go to trivial, test it out and then exit o3o
the simple bugs are also great to keep around for a bit cause they are ideal fodder for junior dev to get comfortable with the product 😄
True! I can’t say I’ve had this experience personally, but I’m blessed to kind of be in a greenfield so we rarely get embarrassing and more just horned beetles.
A tiny issue left for a long time can become a sore spot for the community
Yeah, exactly.
i do have a handful of tickets in our backlog earmarked for our next apprentice to bite their teeth on
Yeah, the headtap emoji is not even entirely joking.
It is useful to have low-prio tasks for getting new team members up to speed.
My old job involved getting elbows deep into a VR library that was depricated before the Index came out and I had to make it work with modern versions of steamVR and the quest.
I am very aware of how seemingly simple changes can balloon out of control.
yeah looks like no aim thing on the hmg or hitmarkers



