Helldivers 2: For Managed Democracy!

[south temple]

:((((

[sinful bay]

HELLDIVER, GO DIVE IN THE CHIMERA

[south temple]

i gotta get my sword and shield to duel space marines like a real gamer

[dusky solar]

😂 I can't even be like "but it's RELEVANT because ||BUGS||" because that's kind of a spoiler

[sinful bay]

What, you prefer the BIG BUTT Necron instead ?

[dusky solar]

man, Mechanicus was like, kind of disappointing initially, I assumed every fight was gonna be as tough as killing that boss in the opening, then I found out you were supposed to lose

lol

shoulda played on harder settings I guess XD

[south temple]

i crave glorious melee

but i’d take an ass that big tbh

[rich marlin]

gotta admit after a couple nights of playing the bots after this new invasion they do seem a lot more aggressive

is it just me and my bug war maining noobishness?

[sinful bay]

Just makes me want a one hand shotgun all the more tbh, so I can combo with the shield

[rich marlin]

a one handed shotgun would be nice

bet they'd put it late in a warbond tho

[quick crown]

Whats the name of the shotguns you could akimbo in CoD?

[sinful bay]

Better later than Never

[quick crown]

The ones with the reloading levers

[sinful bay]

No idea

I just have the Doom 2 super shotgun in mind

Or Hypermall Infinite Violence's Wristbreaker

[honest acorn]

model 1897?

[quick crown]

Thats the one

I didn't remember the like "year" of it

I imagine that would be a cool shotgun with a shield even if it might be TOO silly

[rapid plover]

Mechanicus is very easily broken, especially once you get more gear
you do really need to up the difficulty if you want it to be challenging

[dusky solar]

if there's a contrarian in here there's another dual wieldable shotgun from mw2

I just don't remember the name

not as broken though

[quick crown]

Ooo Mozambique was cool too

[quick crown]

Same thing more futery build

[sinful bay]

wow! Reaper Overwatch gun! /j

[quick crown]

Titanfall 2 my beloved

[sinful bay]

https://tenor.com/view/titanfall-titanfall2-titanfall-bread-cooper-jack-cooper-gif-24660089

[quick crown]

Oh yeah

I havent seen a mech in the wild in a while

[pale remnant]

I wont forgive apex for what they did to the Mozambique and the alternator

[quick crown]

I won't forgive Apex.

[honest acorn]

It was hard adapting from the TF|2 Moz to the AL Moz yeah

[sinful bay]

Now I wanna play Lancer again

anyway 👏
Smoke grenade
Actually useful
Sucks ass that if you aren't hte leader the ping will fuck it up

sad face

[hexed steeple]

?

[quick crown]

If you arent host some stuff like Smoke and Fire wouldnt be read by the ai

Because server ping

[dusky solar]

What are the strongest primaries vs berserkers?
Right now I have:
Punisher / Breaker / Breaker Incendiary / Punisher Plasma / Dominator / Eruptor

I feel like those are all actually very good vs them

i'm kind of on the fence about the scorcher

[quick crown]

At least thats whats been widely reported

[hexed steeple]

oh annoying

[honest acorn]

Yeah if you're not the network host then your connection quality can mess up dots and smoke

[quick crown]

I'm sure it'll be fixed eventually

But idk if its still an issue or not

[honest acorn]

I think the scorcher lacks the raw damage to be strongest

But its not bad

[dusky solar]

yeah I definitely agree it doesn't really deserve a Strong ranking

Moderate is better

uh the 4 ranks i'm thinking about are Strong, Moderate, Poor, No Effect

the ammo issues are bad too

idk if anything less powerful than scorcher will fit in Strong vs zerkers

pretty sure that list is right?

[strange vine]

(the tweet shown is too short for the full message but it was part of a thread)

[honest acorn]

Yeah I think that's all the real solid ones

[dusky solar]

I was kind of surprised when I sat down and wrote it out how many guns are excellent vs devastators and heavy devs

mostly just because of how easy it is to learn to headshot them, since almost every gun aims sort of the same

[shy prairie]

Dealing with heavy devs poorly is a case where (most of) the guns are not the limiting factor I think

[dusky solar]

I only have scythe, diligence, breaker incendiary, and lib conc as "Moderate" or "Poor" vs devastators

and i'm honestly not sure if those ARE all bad. besides lib conc

lmao

the spread on breaker incendiary seems sus

[honest acorn]

B-I is solid ime

[dusky solar]

how does it kill them? is the spread not as much an issue as I think?

[candid finch]

Diligence can work too for head shots

[honest acorn]

It takes a relatively long time to kill but the weird roman candle pellets can overpen and hit multiple zerkers in a line

[dusky solar]

ohhhh this is about devastators not zerkers 😄

[honest acorn]

So you dump a good portion of a mag and then the whole group falls down

Oh

That's different yeah

It's not great against devastators

[candid finch]

The counter sniper does need some more love though

[honest acorn]

It does hit weak spots a lot just from weight of fire

I will say if you have extremely good aim the Scythe actually kills devs really fast with headshots

It just only damages them with headshots and has a poor optic

[dusky solar]

hmmmm

think it deserves Poor or Moderate?

[honest acorn]

Moderate

[dusky solar]

same question for Breaker Incendiary

[honest acorn]

Too hard to use it properly beyond short range and devs are threatening at long range

jeez I can't type today

[candid finch]

the blitzer shotgun is rough against bots

It's such heavy stagger but the time between shots is rough

[shy prairie]

This is interesting to me, was the advertisement just the CE armor prefix or was there more? Because there are other armors in the game that have inconsistent trait/prefixes. Could those also be mistakes?

[dusky solar]

I also have Dilligence down as Poor vs devastators

not the CS since that one taps in the head and pens on misses

[sinful bay]

Punisher my beloved

[honest acorn]

I actually quite like the blitzer vs bots

The hard 30 meter range cap bites though

But it sufficiently stagger locks stuff until it dies for me

[candid finch]

I can see it working well with a team mate

someone who can take advantage of the stagger

alone, it's rough

[honest acorn]

it tends to 1 shot little bots and staggers groups of bigger ones

and has such little "firing slowdown" that I can just keep moving

I certainly wouldn't be opposed to it shooting faster ofc

[dusky solar]

I should try the blitzer again

and then get massively disappointed again

[honest acorn]

But I feel fine using it on maps with shorter engagement ranges

I prefer it vs bugs

Though its annoying habit of not shooting hunters at melee range kind of sucks

[dusky solar]

the arc thrower has the same issue too

so annoying

I wish there was an unsafe mode that allowed it to arc backwards after the first shot

[honest acorn]

yes please

[dusky solar]

arc armor and you can clear yourself

[honest acorn]

though lets label them "dangerous" and "egregiously dangerous"

[dusky solar]

it's a shame, I love the arc thrower but I never get to run it with any of my groups

i don't want to ask people to run the arc armor

and i never TK

[stark token]

https://youtu.be/HjGe515yI8c

[honest acorn]

It's pretty easy to avoid IME

It's just sometimes hard to employ the arc thrower when grouped vs bugs

[dusky solar]

i agree, until you want to clear swarms off someone without swapping to your primary

uh this is vs bugs, vs bots it's fine

but i prefer other supports strongly vs bots

[honest acorn]

tbf many weapons kill TK in that situation but yeah

I tend to prefer the Arc Thrower as an outrider/secondary objective doer kind of role

[dusky solar]

I just don't like imposing the conditions that make the weapon really really strong on my team cuz it's annoying to have someone be like "teehee change ur armor for meeee :3"

[pastel igloo]

seems they patched farming a mission for SC

or at least it's not working for me rn

[kindred lintel]

How so?

Like SC don't spawn on 1's?

[pastel igloo]

i had a mission queued up to farm on and picking up the SC's does nothing

picks them up but doesn't register any gain to my account

[stone bridge]

That seems like a bug

[pastel igloo]

could be a bug

i'll hop in again and try it

[honest acorn]

That seems more like a bug

They have patched some stuff with them regarding completing missions

But that doesn’t seem like it

[burnt vapor]

I recall hearing they did patch that method out

[pastel igloo]

jumping into the mission again to see what happens

nope

still nothing

jumped into the same mission i've been using to farm that has 50sc on it

[honest acorn]

The “pick up the SC’s and then quit out” one?

[burnt vapor]

yeah

[pastel igloo]

and i am not getting anything from the picking up sc

[dusky solar]

Arrowhead make constant stealth changes, i wouldn't be surprised

[pastel igloo]

yeah it's not giving me medals or sc

good to know

[honest acorn]

As in on pickup or after you exit or what?

[dusky solar]

Given how they acted with the railgun nerf this feels like the same kind of funny trolling lol

[pastel igloo]

on pickup

like i pick it up and nothing happens

[honest acorn]

That seems like a bug

[pastel igloo]

well

i've jumped into the mission 3 times

[honest acorn]

Possibly an old mission or something

[pastel igloo]

and it's not given me anything any of the times

[pastel igloo]

it's a hellmire mission from about after we defeated the automatons forever

[burnt vapor]

From what I recall if you leave a mission and then go back into the same one the pickups are turned off but don't quote me on that

[pastel igloo]

that does seem to be the case

oh well

not exactly a big loss

going to try jumping in a new mission

ok

test done

i got super credits from doing a new mission

now i am going to test this by hopping into the mission again

and see if i get super credits

yup that does seem to confirm it

jumped in, didn't get anything from picking up sc or medals

ones that i picked up previously

[pastel igloo]

damn

game crashed

[pastel igloo]

survived the mission

zero revives

no time left

guy dies to a fire tornaodo 😭

cause we were trying to hug

[strange vine]

OH SHIT OPEN SKETCH HAS A HELLDIVERS QUEST
https://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/d-day-malevelon-creek-helldivers-patrol.129562/

[north fiber]

of course she does why wouldn't she

Don't know why we're surprised lol

(for those that don't know, she's the creator of Flying Circus among other things less relevant to this server)

[hollow plover]

There's need to be an ARC ORBITAL STRIKE

Just a big-fuck lightning bolt striking the ground and then arcing off-of all the enemies hit

[pastel igloo]

oh man this mission is not going well

[glacial light]

The ligntning bolt

[pastel igloo]

there's just fucking infinite gunships killing everyone

[keen zinc]

Impact

[pastel igloo]

and my shield backpack is just

broken

and unusable

great

[wide zenith]

Oh, cool! we have a discord subthread?!

I'll be in the horus hangout.

[merry cosmos]

Everyday I wake up high off SUMY brand, yougert flavored combat stimulants. and begin watching strohmann news.

Each day begins with me thinking the same thing.
"The violence has escalated, I need more firepower"

[pastel igloo]

accidentally set off a hellbomb

woops

[keen zinc]

We even have a pingable role to rally gamers

[merry cosmos]

gamers or Gamer™️'s?

Or a secret third thing perhaps

[keen zinc]

I'm such a freedom loving son-of-a-gun that I just found a sesame seed on my leg.

https://youtube.com/shorts/nNmlUiCEov8?si=aU3f6p1AFFNX5Qsg

when i die in a combat zone, pin my hamburger on my chest and ship me on home

[pastel igloo]

we've done like 70% of this mission with reinforce on cooldown

[glacial light]

Gay mer

[pastel igloo]

oh man we are not surviving this

they took too long and now the extract is just swarmed with bots

ok they managed to live

what is WITH these randoms and never trying to extract

jfc

they do not want to live

[glacial light]

Extraction is optional, as long as you bring their samples from their corpses

[pastel igloo]

these mfers only want to attempt extraction once we are out of revives, the enemy is swarming extract and nobody has any ammo left

actually deranged

lvl 9 players do not want extract

once again

i was the only survivor

[keen zinc]

<@&1206091872716595200> horus hangout helldiving

[pastel igloo]

My teammates: die
Me:

better fitting image

[wide zenith]

Alrighty, Divers! Space for 2 in the Horus Hangout!

[keen zinc]

we need game gamers

democracy weeps

[honest acorn]

I might be able to later

[glacial light]

Dang kill 400 automatons

[kindred lintel]

1 mission

[glacial light]

Got a vendetta against bots today

[muted burrow]

400 😩

[pastel igloo]

burning fucking sucks

[keen zinc]

<@&1206091872716595200> we need additional gamesers

[kindred lintel]

you need to be the host for them to work

[graceful bluff]

they still haven't fixed burning?

Honestly just route all burn instances through the host at this point, it'll cause fucky damage numbers on the extract screen but who cares

[pastel igloo]

lmao

the extract left us on the planet

excellent

we got totally fucked for our samples

love that

made it to lvl 25

from now on i will always run patriot mech

in all my missions

[honest acorn]

It’s on the known issues page but not fixed

[pastel igloo]

all my homies hate fire

that shit kills you way too fucking quick

if you don't IMMEDIATELY dive you just die

[stone bridge]

They're working on an ancient, esoteric engine and we don't know their dev pipeline, they'll get around to it

[kindred lintel]

And just to state the obvious, the people creating new content (warbonds) are most likely not skill transferable for bug fixing

[keen zinc]

4head

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1GkYStfmw8

[modest fiber]

this is mine now
||https://www.facebook.com/reel/383140534608601||

[pastel igloo]

i am very excited to use the Patriot Exosuit tomorrow

[pastel igloo]

lmao

yeah

[kindred lintel]

still need to try out this mission type, is it any good?

[pastel igloo]

another reason we are getting absolutely COOKED in defense

[modest fiber]

its quite easy when you got it figured out.. honestly easier than the other one on bots

just get prepared for heavy units

lots of them

[kindred lintel]

autocannon sentry got it

[stiff pine]

Rocket sentry is nice too

[indigo bear]

Even with it figured out, I just don’t enjoy escort missions in any shape or form

[keen zinc]

@trail nymph ET TU ADAM

YOU BESMIRCH THE JUMP PACK?

YOU BETRAY ME, BROTHER

[idle hollow]

https://vxtwitter.com/AmericanRanger4/status/1778747475135779154?t=IfHxqORHBBPJ1cDe5vVmCQ&s=19

[royal lantern]

Just picked up the Eruptor and it is goofy as hell

Whoever described it as playing war thunder got it exactly right

[kindred lintel]

Those yak 7s are funny

[dusty spruce]

I haven't used it yet, but I'm excited to toy around with it.

Tested out the new marksman rifle tho. It's... eh. Feels like it could be better.
Could use a little less kick on single fire, imo.

[keen zinc]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1204832579287519292/1227790897127755816/30b21abf-5cf0-4ee5-b2d4-9cc4b5160a4f.jpg?ex=6629b061&is=66173b61&hm=4cc825f6c90f1364b597c530e3462aa22353cace8c52cbdc05bc87316972be52&=&format=webp&width=507&height=676

[dusty spruce]

dog

[idle hollow]

ouppy

[alpine seal]

yeah, not hitting good breakpoints for me. as a diligence lover the adjudicator is just alright

i do enjoy being able to go ape magdumping into a devastator, but the recoil is too high for a spray n pray strategy to be too efficient without crouching & fortified

[keen zinc]

new excellent fashion

now THIS is an assault trooper

[stone bridge]

4/10 not bulky enough

[keen zinc]

fast and mean

[glacial light]

The new explosive armor is so bulky I love it

[dusty spruce]

I immeadiately slid into the armor in the first page. It's a good stand-in until they return the hazard ops set to my deserving hands.

[keen zinc]

i like this helmet

[shy prairie]

We have very similar fashion tastes

I've been looking at that helmet since the promotional material

[glacial light]

https://www.rxddit.com/r/Helldivers/comments/1c24mnc/how_are_we_supposed_to_see_the_ground_in_this/

[undone veldt]

Through the power of democracy

[undone veldt]

I don’t get it

[keen zinc]

my loadout

i like messing around in paint idk

memery

[copper crest]

For a moment I was like “wow they went wild with new super destroyer name options”

[keen zinc]

LMAO

they should add a booster that makes all hellpod delivered stratagems deploy smokescreens from the pods

[graceful bluff]

no no

deploy cluster munitions

including your own hellpod

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1217642462303096832/1228106785005633667/rapidsave.com_least_cinematic_hd2_moment_super_epic-jiylk3jdsstc1.mp4?ex=662ad692&is=66186192&hm=7592ad71afd813b8dfe88dadd7d902efc37b5db74ee90e155dd2fe6da5649851&

[unreal merlin]

found out why the mission was so quiet. easy 54 kills with an airstrike

[oblique hazel]

<@&1206091872716595200> anyone up for a dive?

[hearty sleet]

[Helldivers 2] https://old.reddit.com/r/Helldivers/comments/1c2a8a0/regarding_the_ce27_ground_breaker_armor_there_was/

Regarding the CE-27 Ground Breaker armor, there was a slight mixup that resulted in it going live with the Servo-Assisted instead of the Engineering Kit passive. This should be changed back in an upcoming hotfix.

[graceful bluff]

ruuude

[unreal merlin]

Explosive Crossbow into bots is pretty decent.

Naturally it's not very good vs devastator armor or any vehicles, but it does well at clearing Raiders, Striders, and even Berserkers.

[graceful bluff]

yeah the aoe is huge

[rich marlin]

hmmm do I wanna be social tongiht

I think I am <@&1206091872716595200> anyone else wanna kick some bots to hell?

[graceful bluff]

what's the daily

[shy prairie]

400 dead bots

[oblique hazel]

the personal? kill 400 bots

[graceful bluff]

yeah sure I can run a few

[junior badge]

that's yesterdays, that'll run for like 3 more hours

[graceful bluff]

yeah didn't get to play yesterday

[ionic holly]

A shame, makes sense i suppose

[junior badge]

Cat tax, on the upwards fan.

(old HDD that stopped working, sadly. Now used to block the power button on my PC so the cats can't press it.)

[graceful bluff]

We just had a gunship base with 2 towers that spawned SIX gunships

on difficulty 5

what the fuck

[rich marlin]

It was….

A time

Good time? Bad time? Joel-you-bastard time?

[supple siren]

The worst is finally getting up on the Gunship Tower only to realize it's within range of a Stratagem Jammer, the bots really have it out for our whole deal

[alpine seal]

once saw a gunship base with two towers, but one of them wasn't actually real. it never spawned gunships and any rounds shot at it would phase through instead of bouncing off

the automatons are learning illuminate hallucination tech

[orchid pulsar]

<@&1206091872716595200> who wants to do some diving?

[oblique hazel]

I could hop on for an op or two

[oblique hazel]

just finished a mission with randos, one of them killed the other two at extract, but then immediately got killed by Pelican

karmic justice if I've ever seen it

[pastel igloo]

Owned

[stoic lotus]

congrats on climbing out of the crab bucket

[glacial light]

My favorite meme

https://www.rxddit.com/r/Helldivers/s/Zl4nvcb4N2

[keen zinc]

https://youtu.be/F9LOAdP9iIQ?si=TteafGu_BfCVCIAn

<@&1206091872716595200> HELL MUST BE DIVED

[cobalt patrol]

@keen zinc Accept the friend request and i'll add you to teh call

[keen zinc]

negative

[cobalt patrol]

Arright

[graceful bluff]

<@&1206091872716595200> Bot time

[unreal merlin]

Continued experimentation, explosive crossbow is super good and quite easy to get value from it. Naturally does not handle any degree of armor particularly well (though in some cases you can play angles for it) but it's an extremely easy to use chaff clearer. Raiders, Striders, Scavengers, Hunters. If you're accurate and prepared, two direct hits will kill a Stalker even.

[cobalt patrol]

It does one shot devs if you hit their head

it's just arse to hit the head.

[craggy lagoon]

I tried the crossbow and it just felt like a harder to use eruptor

[honest acorn]

It has a wider area and higher rof

But it is certainly weirder to aim

[craggy lagoon]

Does it really have a wider area? It felt like it wasn't exploding much at all. Maybe I just hit armor?

[honest acorn]

They’re both fairly large so it’s hard for me to be sure but I think so

Just based on the number of unexpected moments when I shot once and got 5-7 skulls

[keen zinc]

its a tribes ascend weapon

and it does 420 damage on direct hit so can be used to squarsh the fat sacks of bugs

and the char ger

[cobalt patrol]

I really, really tried to make it work vs the charger

and just could not

but i put that down to a personal skill issue thing

[blissful sparrow]

Woohoo! Shazbot

[candid finch]

Started a rank 8 mission, first thing that happens is a bot summons a drop. It immediately drops three hulks directly on our head

[honest acorn]

level 8 hell yeah

every drop is a hot drop and its always hot as hell

[candid finch]

Specially hurts when the team either doesn't engage on them or didn't bring anything to help with them

And either get rolled over from behind or you lose multiple lives trying to deal with three hulks

[naive dragon]

Where does one get that middle armor I keep seeing it

[honest acorn]

I think that's preeorder armor

[graceful bluff]

no it's twitch drop armor

so basically same thing lmao

I think it's medic?

[kindred lintel]

medium medic armor, twitch drop, unavailable

[keen zinc]

yep

probably the most "optimal" armor in the game tbh

[stoic lotus]

there's plenty of medium medic armour

[pale remnant]

there's two medium medic armours in the basic warbond, even

[honest acorn]

I was surprised there were 2

[stoic lotus]

me too it was very odd

[undone veldt]

Holy shit the incendiary breaker fucking

Destroys spore spewers

We spawned next to one so I started shooting at it and destroyed it in like 5 seconds with half a mag

[glacial light]

Fire damage is kind of overtuned imo, I think they buffed it too much after seeing too few players were using it (cause it's only good if you're the host)

Once they fix the dot damage for non hosts and people realize how good it is then it'll be nerfed probably

[honest acorn]

yeah fire is trash

75% chance it does nothing

the damage was ok before the desync bug though

so I expect its pretty nutty now if it works

[cobalt patrol]

Meanwhile, my hell diver, cackling insanely

It's ridiculous how fast chargers drop now

[glad marsh]

We're in a biological arms race with the terminids
And we're winning

[honest acorn]

they do drop pretty fast you can 2 deag them with the eruptor 😤

[glacial light]

It takes like 1/4th of a flamethrower tank and dies almost instantly for chargers

Even faster than before

[honest acorn]

That's pretty nutty for chargers yeah

Since you're using the blowtorch damage not the dot

[glacial light]

I couldn't imagine with the ship fire perk though

[honest acorn]

Does that one effect the normal damage or just the burning?

[glacial light]

No clue

I vaguely recall it's gas and fire DoT

[honest acorn]

same

[cobalt patrol]

The fourth upgrade is a 50% increase to the burning damage from eagle napalm, flamethrower and incendiary mines.

It's dramaticlly noticeable

Like FT dot damage is already very high when it's working, now chargers just liquify

[honest acorn]

Yeah back when it was reliable I'd use it to make firebreaks to good effect

But I don't like rolling the dice on if a weapon works properly this network so I'm mostly just avoiding fire stuff until they fix it

Which is a shame since I used to run the Full Meme Flame Build a lot

(Breaker Incendiary, Flamethrower, flame grenades, napalm strike)

No fire secondary (yet)

[candid finch]

Fire should be dangerous

Fire should be feared

This does mean that hulk flamethrowers are a fuckin ass tho

[honest acorn]

25% of the time it kills everything

I wonder if the fire bug is connected with hulk flamers sometimes killing me instantly?

Like not the "instantly" they usually so since they're very high damage I mean like "die in 1 frame of fire" instantly

[glacial light]

Plot twist the flamer hulk was the host

[stoic lotus]

if the rocket damage was registering multiple times it seems plausible the hulk damage might be too

[honest acorn]

true

[sour whale]

that's happened to me a good bunch too, hulk flamers just instakilling me

[candid finch]

yeah

feels like if I get brushed right on the end it's fine

or "normal"

[stoic lotus]

my experience with hulk flamers is also that like 90% of the time touching any part of the flame is instant death

[candid finch]

But if I'm too close it whacks me good and I instantly die

[glacial light]

Maybe hulks sometimes kill me faster than pre nerf spewers

[stoic lotus]

very rarely I get clipped and set on fire and can jump away or take a half second to die

but it's usually just insta delete

[glacial light]

I still want a tradeoff passive armor thats like -1 stim but "autoinjects" stims without animation so you can stim while shooting or ragdolled

[gusty heron]

I've found that it kills if I'm prone, too far away, in the process of diving, or in any animation that delays my ability to stim. However, if I'm close to the edge of the fire (but NOT near the end of its range), very close to the hulk, or just ending a dive, it does very little damage (but the fire DoT does a hell of a lot and kills in about half a second anyway) and I can stim and live.

_ _
The big ones for me have been being prone or diving, though. Diving on reflex is very bad with flame hulks. I don't know if it's because they're more likely to hit more hurtboxes when you're lying down or if I'm imagining the instant death since diving stops me from stimming immediately and leads to split-second death anyway, but I've noticed those two are killers.

[keen zinc]

<@&1206091872716595200> https://discord.gg/ewq4TgJz

neato new server featuer

[idle hollow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/492799900145418270/1228775905439256727/RDT_20240413_1402428085220501953145516.jpg?ex=662d45bd&is=661ad0bd&hm=9a8a3e07b400d8670b0dcc302030d8979a5538e80119b16d6f3956170e18783a&

[blissful sparrow]

a Freedom Burger with a large pack of Liberty fries please

[modest fiber]

the borgor

[keen zinc]

<@&1206091872716595200> anyone wanna farm 4/5/6s for rare shramples

[merry cosmos]

Currently busy with helldive medal grinding

[quick plinth]

bots or bugs?

[keen zinc]

bugs

atm

[quick plinth]

eh damn I wanna play bugs but something came up

[keen zinc]

nvm im just gonna solo

[keen zinc]

these vacuum explosives are really pissing me off

[stone bridge]

Vacuum explosives?

[hot meadow]

There’s a weird bug where some explosions from I think eruptor yank you forward IIRC

[dusty spruce]

cavitation gun

[wind arrow]

new (to me) anti charger tech: GL the ground under its nose

assuming flat terrain

[blissful sparrow]

you are actually GLing under its butt by shooting through its undercarriage

[wind arrow]

yeah i think it's the trajectory of the bounce that carries the grenade to its butt to be boomed

[hazy oriole]

Anyone got tips for dealing with hulks, especially bruisers? I hate flame hulks but at least a lot of the time I can run away from them long enough for a teammate to notice I'm in trouble and railcannon them. Bruisers though, they always manage to just ragdoll me every time I try and take a stance to fire them. Also, tips/suggestions for hulk killing weapons would be helpful, as nothing I've tried feels consistent or flexible enough for them. Railcannon helps, but the cooldown and only being able to hit one at a time is less helpful on higher diffs (or when it decides to pick a random strider instead).

[alpine seal]

you either have to be quick about it or have someone else run around while you shoot its weakpoints. autocannon and anti-materiel rifle both twoshot it to the eye, any of the dedicated anti-tank weapons (expendable, recoilless, quasar) can do it in one

[blissful sparrow]

Stun grenades also work wonders

as does EMS

[alpine seal]

stun grenades are a very good option for them, gives them pause long enough to double tap them and the new explosive weapons make this a more viable option since you preserve building destruction capability

i run stun grenades regularly to bots since they help deal with the two biggest problems on that front for me, hulks and special devastators

my current favorite anti-tank weapon is the spear, from a mix of building kill convenience (when it works) and fire and forget vs. heavies

the downside is it's inconsistent vs. hulks, sometimes it impacts onto the armor and needs 2 shots

then you're just kinda screwed

[hazy oriole]

I've tried the AC but I think I'm skill issue filtered by it

Can't seem to land on the eyeslit consistently

[glad marsh]

I'm told aiming slightly above it helps sometimes

But it is a small target to hit

[kindred lintel]

I prefer eats, recoiless, or quasar cannon personally

[blissful sparrow]

i find shooting their arms off easier with AC, tho it does take significantly more shots

[heady halo]

you gotta either use the electric weapons to stun them so you can lock them down, hit them in the eye or the back with either an explosive or heavy armour penatrating weapon (also mini stuns them to buy time to aim again) or run/be far away then when safe target their arms with medium armour penetrating weapons

blowing of the flame hulks flame arm is so much better

grenade between the legs will hit both arms and their back weakspot

four of the extra damage grenades can kill a hulk with a little luck

[hazy oriole]

How many? I feel like getting rid of the missile launcher/the flamethrower will help me a lot

[heady halo]

oh the laser cannon 98 (NOT the quasar) is real good at stripping arms too

just aim and hold at the arm and its off in a couple seconds

quasar is a pain with having to charge and aim

[hazy oriole]

oh shit, THAT'S where you gotta hit them??? i've been chucking my impacts at their faces for too long

[heady halo]

impacts at faces will work! but gotta still hit around the eye area to do max damage

and impacts are lower damage smaller aoe as downside for the explode on impact upside

its not JUST the red slit either, the small "Lip" around it is close enough

about half the size of the bot factory roof vent

maybe smaller but that feels about right for whatever thats worth

the big aoe high explosive grenades will hit from like, anywhere around the feet

[heady halo]

what is stettler blade anyway? i see people yelling about it but never gameplay or a trailer or even the people who like it reccomending people play it

[blissful sparrow]

third person spectactle fighter from what i gathered

[tall stone]

All the advice on how to handle Hulks is greatly appreciated.

[glad marsh]

Huh
I wonder if we'll ever see a stun dart launcher of some kind

[hot meadow]

I dropped a 500 kg on a bile titan, but both me and the titan died in the explosion.

All 3 other players opened their mikes and were like “a martyr for democracy!”

Total randos, only thing they said all game.

[candid finch]

Wonderful

[hot meadow]

Was a good run too. I’m still in the camp of bugs are easier than bots, even after I learned more about fighting bots from this chat lol

[pastel igloo]

love it when my stims don't hit

[rare nymph]

Love it when I die with the stim in my neck

[pastel igloo]

yeah

also love shooting a hulk in the eye with a quasar and nothing happens

[hot meadow]

It doesn’t one shot them I think? Seems to take more than one AFAIK

[rare nymph]

I’ve switched from quasar to arc thrower just for more reliable hulk-stopping

[keen zinc]

There is a bug RN of some explosives sucking you towards the blast instead of sending you away

[pastel igloo]

i had already been blasting it with grenades

[keen zinc]

I posted that after my grenade pistol pulled me off a rock I was standing on

[sour whale]

i find hitting a hulk in the eye with a quasar is unreliable. sometimes it'll down them in one shot if you get the perfect shot, sometimes it feels like it can miss by an inch and the hulk won't die. very finnicky

i've had the most success aiming slightly above the eye, though

[pastel igloo]

exosuit kinda raggedy for bots 😔

[keen zinc]

People here know what I do to Hulks

If you are insane, you can use my technique

[honest acorn]

I think it can but you should plan for 2

[keen zinc]

Jump pack at them, sprint behind them and circle strafe while blasting them with a Punisher

Like you are fighting a TF2 sentry

[sour whale]

that's very funny

[pastel igloo]

sometimes bot missions are the easiest shit imaginable and sometimes it's just like

constant death

[keen zinc]

It would be less funny if it didn't consistently work

I have killed loads of Hulks this way on 7 diff

Scorchers and Bruisers

Scorchers are a bit trickier because you need to bait out the flame before you charge them

The key is to run as close to them as possible, their turn speed isn't fast enough if you're close enough

If you try to stay at arms reach they will turn faster than you

[hot meadow]

I would definitely die.

[keen zinc]

Most of the time when I die from this it's because someone else shot at the Hulk and ragdolled me with an explosion

[sour whale]

hmm, interesting, interesting. i tried circle strafing a scorcher yesterday but he was too fast, i was probably too far then. good intel

[keen zinc]

If you see me flying at a hulk or tank, let me cook

[keen zinc]

You cannot respect their personal space

Yes you will take a little damage when their back vent explodes but it's worth it

[sour whale]

definitely noted, scorchers are my bane in bot missions

[alpine seal]

funnily enough i've gotten into a good rhythm for hulk eye shots but i'm very bad at devastator face shots

[sour whale]

i usually need to play with a teammate to bait out their back and unload the dominator into them, or just use some heavy AT

[glacial light]

Quasar does indeed one shot hulks to the eyes it's just a very small slit and a large margin of error due to sway and flinch

[alpine seal]

my biggest opp remains heavy devastators but i'll accept that being an armor issue, i could stand up to them better with the shield backpack or heavier armor but that's not my common playstyle

[glacial light]

For vent shots I find sickle can kill a hulk in half a "mag"

[hazy oriole]

what's the max amount for samples you can store?

[honest acorn]

500/250/100 iirc

[pastel igloo]

ok just going to play whatever the lowest level i can play to get rare samples

this is just annoying

[honest acorn]

I find you get piles and piles of rares on 7+

[pastel igloo]

yeah but it's really annoying to do unless i have a good squad

keep getting swarmed and wiped

[modest fiber]

from what i have seen an heard, basically anime postapocholypse with darksouls ish combat

[honest acorn]

<@&1206091872716595200> looking to play this evening

[modest fiber]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/5Q0wE5NyEwE?feature=share

[golden ledge]

Huh?

[pastel igloo]

no cyborg helldivers

[keen zinc]

What I was doing earlier

Just running 4s

[keen zinc]

I'll be around in 10

[strange vine]

Does anyone know what loadout the hulk obliterator has?

Its the variant with a banner on the back

[stone bridge]

Dual rockets, apparently

[keen zinc]

dual rocket arms

[alpine seal]

now that i think of it, i've never seen a hulk with that name

only read about it in guides

it might be a unique variant like the charger behemoth

[keen zinc]

it is

it shows up at objectives

civilian extraction is almost guaranteed

[oblique hazel]

iirc it has the same spawn criteria as the behemoth, diff 3-4 extermination mission targets and chilling around full length civilian extract objectives

[honest acorn]

I feel sort of bad lol there’s like dozens of cool looking armors and my favorites mechanically are

• the armor you start with
• the armor from page 1 of the basic warbond

[stone bridge]

I'm engineer kit pilled myself

It's the only real offense boost armour and it's quite good at it

[keen zinc]

engineer kit is great against bugs

[stone bridge]

I run it into bots these days as well

[keen zinc]

i run padded or medic into bots

[stone bridge]

Bots I don't need the explosive resist now that the bug has been fixed

[keen zinc]

padded not fortified

padded is +50 armor

i use Light Gunner

[oblique lotus]

I like the democracy protects armor first because oneshot resistance was really important but then because shiny

[keen zinc]

bots, both, bugs

[stone bridge]

yeah I think Padded is kinda mid

Particularly with the buff to medium/heavy

[keen zinc]

on an ultralight armor it is good

light gunner having max speed and stam with the same armor as medium armor

[stone bridge]

Proper medium armour is slightly higher survivability now

After the balance pass

I'd rather just run that and have a real passive

[hot meadow]

I just had a dude stop on the lip of the pelican with the super samples and then die.

[hazy oriole]

there's a DUAL ROCKET HULK1?!?

NOOOOOOO

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[keen zinc]

its a special spawn

[hazy oriole]

i hate the brusiers enough already

ough ough ough

[glacial light]

Not the dual rocket hulk

I think I'm tired of swapping loadouts and maybe a little burnt out cause I'm just sticking with medium medic armor, stun grenade, sickle, and grenade pistol (once I get it)

[south temple]

yeah once you find fun shit it’s hard to stop using it

[keen zinc]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1GkYStfmw8

[shy prairie]

In a sincere and non-confrontation tone: why do you post this video, amko?

[keen zinc]

bucket of salmoan

[keen zinc]

my steam name is Bucket of Salmon and people playing with me keep asking

:V

[shy prairie]

Ah I.. See

[craggy lagoon]

My new favorite loadout VS bugs is grenade pistol, eruptor, stalwart, ammo backpack, medic light armor

You will need someone to help with bile titans but usually others will bring it

VS bots I still like the tried and true dominator/scorcher, autocannon, medium explosion resist armor

And senator

Stalwart at 1000rpm, can consider the recoil armor too

[tall stone]

Just had a couple of traitorous chucklefucks who cost me a mission because they spent 15 reinforcements killing each other.

At a certain point, I just...

Didn't reinforce them.

[cobalt patrol]

Simply 500kg.

[keen zinc]

HI ZOMBIE

[cobalt patrol]

@keen zinc I see i joined at juist the right time, lol

I'm not gonna vox, feeling pretty awful from long covid

but i can be a warm body to help get samples

[keen zinc]

🫡 Good to see you, Commander.

[keen zinc]

@tropic wraith btw there is a helldivers role if you want to be summoned for gamering

[cobalt patrol]

@stone bridge Okay, the Eruptor/Jetpack/Laser Cannon combo is such a fucking good time. The laser cannon vs gunships is a hilarious. just a couple of seconds on a thruster and woooompbooom

[honest acorn]

It's so good

I stumbled on it to have an excuse to try out the stun grenades but they complement one another so well

[cobalt patrol]

I kinda want to give Eruptor/AMR a go

liek i suspect that might actually be really good?

[honest acorn]

You'd need a secondary which works up close but it seems ok

Eruptor can engage most of what AMR can so it might wind up redundant

I tried AMR/explosive crossbow and it felt real good though

[stone bridge]

[honest acorn]

AMR for long range, Xbow at mid, dagger for the survivors

[cobalt patrol]

See with turn on a dot things i think the amr would work up close

i'll give it a go at osme point

now is lie back down time because arrgh sinuses

[modest fiber]

ngl this be me

[honest acorn]

they look so cool

I instinctive back away from them now

If I don't shoot them someone will

[keen zinc]

I am plagued by a curse

[honest acorn]

Though leading swarms into them RULES

I love watching the x30 skull appear

[keen zinc]

The curse of toaster

Whenever I have time to play, I must endure the ever present threat of 380 barrages and autocannon shots

[keen zinc]

I got a 54 today

Or yesterday

I forget

[rare nymph]

One time I accidentally got a 64 kill hellbomb

(I thought there was only a charger nearby)

[keen zinc]

I've been trying out the scorcher more

[honest acorn]

nice

[keen zinc]

I like it

[honest acorn]

I think the highest I got was a 61 but that didn't involve a hellbomb

[keen zinc]

But it does preclude my normal strategy of high aggression

Cuz of close range splash

I'll always inevitably go back to my precious Punisher

But I think Arc Thrower is becoming a staple support weapon for me

Putting the shock in shock trooper

[honest acorn]

arc thrower stunlock is so valuable

I was really enjoying a "ranger" build with light stealth armor, the eruptor, and the arc thrower+shield

[keen zinc]

Great for Hulks

I enjoyed the Eruptor into bugs

[honest acorn]

SUPER self sufficient base destroyer and secondary doer

[rare nymph]

Yeah, I've been rocking eruptor + arc thrower for bots

[honest acorn]

It feels good

I can take out anything which isn't a tank with some safety

[candid finch]

I really like the Scorcher, great for dealing straight out with Walkers

[honest acorn]

And I usually run 500+airstrike for reds

[rare nymph]

Only rough spot is when I'm getting rushed by tons of berserkers

[candid finch]

Also yeah the Scorcher does disgusting damage against vents, so hulks and tanks and turrets

[honest acorn]

Arc Thrower can stunlock smaller packs at least

And Eruptor 1-2 shots them

But yeah its scary

[rare nymph]

But that can be addressed by sticking with your team

[candid finch]

Hulks can die in less than one clip

[rare nymph]

Yeah, it's not like there's no options

But it can get dicey

[honest acorn]

Just a lot of "if I miss this shot I'll have to run another 120 meters"

[rare nymph]

It doesn't help that I run heavy armor lmao

Especially on Menkent

[honest acorn]

oh yeah that would make it a lot harder

I was running that green scout armor so I was actually faster than the denjis

[rare nymph]

Come to think of it, that may be the source of my recent berserker troubles...

[honest acorn]

It's way harder to handle them in heavy armor yeah

I run a lot of heavy blast armor vs bots so I can wade through rockets

[rare nymph]

Same

[tall stone]

I'm loving my coinflip survival armor. I don't know if I'll ever be able to give it up.

[rare nymph]

I either run fortified, or Fortified Commando with Ballistic shield for bots

Been rocking the devastator armor lately

Love that huge neck guard

[wind arrow]

i kinda wish for transmog at this point

[honest acorn]

They are apparently not planning on adding transmog

[wind arrow]

oh, shame but also i guess it's a thing i can stop burning calorie putting thoughts on

[honest acorn]

https://twitter.com/Pilestedt/status/1778883161201487944

Pilestedt (@Pilestedt) on X

@EnigmaAMC @HelldiversAlert We are not doing transmog. It doesn't make sense - equipment looks different because it has different effects. Swapping one for the other is like having an apple that tastes like bacon or the other way around.

Twitter · Apr 12, 2024, 8:29 PM

Yeah I'm not completely happy with the choice but it means I can avoid thinking on it much

[rare nymph]

Also fun fact: the Devastator armor is the only armor I've seen that has different descriptions for the helmet and armor

[dusky solar]

I ran this earlier after one of my friends showed it to me

It handles all the bots very well

[dusky solar]

I saw this, i hope we get the ability to recolor shit at some point

[honest acorn]

Yeah recolors would be nice

[hot meadow]

I gotta try this.

[cobalt patrol]

I find this take off theirs really goofy and think it's leaving money on the table, personally. But I'm not gonna loose to much sleep over it either

[hot meadow]

I think it’s one of those things that may change tbh, but it doesn’t bother me much either way

[shy prairie]

I think it's funny they say this and yet the armor that has the servo assisted prefix and fluff text that says it makes you stronger has the scout trait

[unreal merlin]

crossbow gaming is weird for stats

[honest acorn]

lmao

[mortal wing]

Can you destroy automaton detector towers with anything other than hellbomb?

Sometimes if fabricator is next to it, it's explosion detonates the tower as well.

[cobalt patrol]

You can!

[mortal wing]

Not sure if stratagems work by itself.

[cobalt patrol]

500kg, Precision strike will both do it

[mortal wing]

I sees.

[cobalt patrol]

The Orbital laser can also do it

[mortal wing]

Thanks!

[cobalt patrol]

380 barrage being "what if we spammed precision shots at something" will also do it

The spear may be able to kill it?

I know it's fragile enough that just the impact of the 500kg can kill it, not even the explosion. Which is very funny

[mortal wing]

I know that rocket, eats, and such aren't enough for it?

or I think I know

[oblique hazel]

Quasar definitely doesn't do it, so I'd be somewhat surprised if eats or recoilless did

[hearty sleet]

I'm guessing it takes "building destruction" tier damage to break then

[shy prairie]

Spear kills it via blowing up adjoining fab

[blissful sparrow]

Laser also works, but might be temperamental and go for something else

oops, hadn't scrolled down

[graceful bluff]

I remember we figured out something stupid could kill it yesterday

but I don't remember what it was

[pastel igloo]

380 barrage is so nice

real and proper area denial

[primal river]

https://youtu.be/8SesYUHdcjA

[graceful bluff]

yeah, only problem is that you only ever use half of it for that unless you throw it danger close when retreating

[pastel igloo]

i usually throw it at camps

[graceful bluff]

it's great for that yeah

[pastel igloo]

absolutely fucking level them

[graceful bluff]

esp with the increased throw range armors

[pastel igloo]

nothing will stand the wrath of my 380 barrage

[pastel igloo]

i just get right up close tbh

[graceful bluff]

since those can actually throw it far enough to not be in range :v

[pastel igloo]

i don't run throw range armors

[graceful bluff]

I ping to get a range, then dive and throw while looking up

that throws it at max range

(works on all armors)

[pastel igloo]

neat

[graceful bluff]

great for getting consistent throws

[pastel igloo]

i run up to the camp, throw it in, then walk away

[graceful bluff]

I've seen people get pranked by the very first shell too many times

[keen zinc]

https://www.rxddit.com/r/Helldivers/s/F5gkcGwLSu

"Things can always get worse."

[pastel igloo]

Lmao

[keen zinc]

Yep this is how I huck precision strikes onto objectives

A dive throw will go 45-50m without SA

[blissful sparrow]

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/theearthdefenseforce/images/3/36/Shield-bearer.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20140316180427

[keen zinc]

Compensate for elevation and we good

[blissful sparrow]

the next step of "fucking annoying thing"

[keen zinc]

EDF! EDF! EDF!

[burnt vapor]

I honestly wouldn't be surpized if the squids got something like that they did invent shield tech

[blissful sparrow]

can't wait to throw out a railcannon strike and 0.3 frames before it impacts a shield bearer teleports in

[pastel igloo]

Helldivers when they see anything that isn't a Helldiver

[graceful bluff]

What do you mean when it isn't a helldiver

[graceful bluff]

This shit is why I really want them to just give us the missile silo already

[keen zinc]

https://www.rxddit.com/r/Helldivers/s/bF4BsE7PS2

God I wish the Stalwart had hitmarkers

I feel this dudes pain having to spray a line of corpses just to make sure

https://www.rxddit.com/r/Helldivers/s/IeQULGL53p

[tropic wraith]

ty! how to get ;-;

[keen zinc]

https://www.rxddit.com/r/Helldivers/s/IeQULGL53p

Reddit full of good idea fairies this morning

[keen zinc]

#bot-stuff type ?rank helldiver

I think

[idle hollow]

another funny thing

Beacons can get attached to personal shields

[hollow plover]

And support stratagems land exactly on the beacon

:]

[keen zinc]

Can we pin posts in threads?

[idle hollow]

whoever made the thread can I believe yes

[keen zinc]

We should put the instructions to get the Helldivers role in the pins

[north fiber]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Clte6nX0298

This carries the stamp of the Astartes guy but it's unconfirmed

[keen zinc]

A lot of Warhammer 40K animators jumped ship to other franchises when Warhammer+ launched

Halo, STALKER, etc

Not surprised to see some move to Helldivers

[blissful sparrow]

Astartes guy was hired for WH+, so doubt it

[indigo bear]

I don’t know which I would enjoy more: That Astartes duder is making shorts still or that someone has emerged with skill enough to accurately match that style

[keen zinc]

@barren iron

[north fiber]

Looked up the dude behind the video. He's an architect by trade tho his LinkedIn mentions he has a passion for CGI cinematography

No confirmation on ever formally doing work for GW+, but he might be hiding it or things didn't work out and he left.

https://kennethcai.com/about

[merry cosmos]

https://www.tumblr.com/pencilbrony/743881210770735104/helldivers-2-when-you-want-to-get-schmovin?source=share

[primal river]

This kinda reminds me of the sights in Apex that would launch you back into the air

[merry cosmos]

It would honestly fit as a tf2 item

[keen zinc]

Nah better than a rocket that stays on you

Rather than it slowing your descent

Just a SRB that launches you up and then you chute down

But not like modern glider chute, world war 2 umbrella chute

Launches you off in an SRB burn, then the booster falls off and the chute comes out a second later

With a 2% chance of the chute not deploying

And you just plummet and die

Gory gory what a hell of a way to die

Super Earth having Jump Pack tech but still using parachutes would be so funny

[hollow plover]

And fitting

There's always space to cut costs, in space!

[keen zinc]

I just want to do a parachute drop

[glacial light]

Ok but what if instead of a hellpod at the beginning of a mission there's a flying pelican and you can jump out of it and parachute down and you have to say "thank you pelican pilot"

Helldivers battle royale

[keen zinc]

Nah

Helldiving is cool as fuck, drop pods rule

But para-assault is also wicked

[merry cosmos]

I would unironically like coming out of the pelican

[stoic lotus]

kuben blisk is stood in the door with a knife

you kill me, I'm betta

[keen zinc]

Captain Speirs call-in stratagem.

[blissful sparrow]

I want there to be soldiers coming out of the pelican when it lands and laying down cover fire while we embark 😌

[keen zinc]

Spawns Death Captain Speirs at the edge of the map and he runs all the way to you, gives you 10 more reinforces and 5 more minutes of mission time, then runs all the way back.

The enemy is so stunned by his bravery that they can't hit him.

[keen zinc]

Darktide

[blissful sparrow]

In a good game

[keen zinc]

Lmao

Idk id feel bad leaving them behind

[keen zinc]

Hi Letter

[honest acorn]

https://x.com/elamimaxima/status/1779452440821022831?s=46&t=RjdIzh2qFuWkjovzBmgCsQ

Ela Bambust, 🏳️‍⚧️ professional author (@Elamimaxima) on X

Twitter · Apr 14, 2024, 10:11 AM

[keen zinc]

I feel like the democracy officer starts every day reciting the names of every citizen killed by the enemy the previous day.

It takes like 3 hours. Which is why he only sleeps 4 hours.

[merry cosmos]

How is he not collapsing from exhaustion

[keen zinc]

Patriotism.

[merry cosmos]

Is he on caffeine and amphetamines

[keen zinc]

4 hours is all you need to function

Source: Army said so

[merry cosmos]

Tbh they probably know what their talking about if it's actual army advice

Their whole thing is stretching the human form beyond its limitations

[keen zinc]

Well no, it's just the minimum amount of time that MUST be allowed for a soldier to sleep per 24 hours

And many times we did just that

It's not close to healthy

But it is what it was

[keen zinc]

In the short term

You pay it back with interest in the long term

I am currently suffering from it physically and mentally

[north fiber]

we have a little laugh every time we hear about making something lighter so soldiers don't have to carry as much weight

[keen zinc]

Just means we'll carry something else

[north fiber]

always need more ammo

[keen zinc]

Ammo and water

Both are vital. Both heavy as fuck.

[north fiber]

(which is why soldiers have like 10 mags strapped to their chest)

[keen zinc]

And more in the assault pack

And why they have a CamelBak and multiple canteens

[north fiber]

best advice we got while hiking long distance

[keen zinc]

And usually several jerry cans of water in their vehicles

[north fiber]

"pack too heavy? drink more water"

[keen zinc]

"take a knee & drink water"

The mantra of a foot march

[north fiber]

(context was boy scouts to be clear, we were never in the military)

[keen zinc]

I was an infantryman so I've lived this as my whole life for four n a half years

All soldiers have to carry stuff and march around but most have actual jobs to do

Infantry is JUST the grueling stuff

And you do it constantly

Constantly training

No job at home station so all you do is march and drill and train

[north fiber]

My step father jokes he joined artillery because he was on a march in boot camp and saw people driving by and decided he was going to do what they did

[keen zinc]

Artillery and Infantry, King and Queen of battle

Artillery can't move much and losing it means you lose, Infantry have the power of maneuver and versatility, but can be lost and replaced by any pawn.

[north fiber]

(gotta drive for 2 hours, sorry!)

[keen zinc]

Honestly never knew the Scorcher could damage cannon turrets

[hollow plover]

It is basically the most anti-bot primary

[keen zinc]

fr

[rare nymph]

Menkent’s under attack

[glacial light]

What's menkents weather like

[tired crystal]

ice planet

wait no

fire tornados

[hazy oriole]

aw MAN

[tropic wraith]

i love it

[hazy oriole]

me and my buddy just liberated that planet last night 😭

[rare nymph]

Menkent's bot hellmire

[blissful sparrow]

Ice Planet with fire tornados

[glacial light]

I'm deathly allergic to fire tornados unfortunately

[merry cosmos]

Centrism

[stoic lotus]

that's the opposite of centrism

it's like free market communism

[blissful sparrow]

no no, not the middle point between 2 opinions. both opinions!

[hazy oriole]

oh god it's gonna be a defence campaign too 😭
fire tornado retrieve essential personnel

[honest acorn]

Menkent is hilariously miserable

At least the bots burn too

[merry cosmos]

J.O.L.E. is setting us up for failure again

[supple siren]

Are Fire Tornados buggy for other folks? One of my friends seems to be desynced with them no matter the host

[pastel igloo]

are we still failing the defense

wait

last i checked Menkent was at like

80% i wanna say

did they unliberate menkent

[tall stone]

Oh fuck, Menkent got turboscrewed.

[idle hollow]

what

it w as taken

[pastel igloo]

it ain't any longer

[idle hollow]

oh it's defence

[pastel igloo]

it is

[heady halo]

we took mankent then it got re-invaded

[tired crystal]

we liberated it

now we are trying to keep it liberated

[hazy oriole]

What's the niche of rocket sentries? I don't think I've ever seen anyone really use them much compared to the AC one

[glacial light]

I haven't seen it used or know about it to know what it's. Iche is

I assume according to description heavy enemies but it doesn't seem good against say chargers, tanks, or hulks

[stoic lotus]

they have loads and loads of ammo

[glacial light]

And well against AC who deals with medium enemies just fine with faster rate of fire

[candid finch]

I think they have different targetting parameters too

[glacial light]

Sentry stuff is my last on the ship modules hopefully it makes them good with the HP upgrade, more ammo, and faster turn rate and such

[candid finch]

They're a long range attacker, lots of ammo, safer to put down at the back and let do some support damage than holding a closer front line

[hazy oriole]

yeah I just don't find sentries engaging so I rarely use them

[hazy oriole]

gotcha, makes it sound like they're good for both bots and bugs if you can keep them safe
good for defence missions?

[candid finch]

yeah pretty much

[hazy oriole]

and how do they fare compared to mortars

[candid finch]

great for holding down an area

Less likely to kill you

concentrate more on heavier targets

Lower splash area I think, but direct firing

[keen zinc]

I appreciate the Rocket sentry as a decent damage long lasting support weapon

Thing sticks around for forever

Doesn't blast stuff like the Autocannon Sentry but it sticks around like 3x longer

[candid finch]

It is useful for breaking armour too

It softens things real well

[keen zinc]

I like to put down autocannon and rocket sentries a few meters from each other and form a little firebase

[hazy oriole]

Thanks for the tips, I'm trying to make an unlock guide for a couple buddies of mine who are a lot newer to the game (what's strongest, what's more niche, what everything does and what you generally want to unlock first etc)

[glacial light]

The moment I summon a sentry on bugs a charger spawns and steps on it before I can kill it

Maybe it's better against bots with HP upgrade and now rocket devs probably won't one shot them

[hazy oriole]

on the subject of the same guide, what's the EAT's breakpoints vs Bile Titans, Tanks and Hulks? I don't remember them off my head

[keen zinc]

2 headshots kills BT

One headshot kills Hulks

Two rear shots kill a tank

[honest acorn]

I think 2 front turret hits kills a tank too

[kindred lintel]

my warthunder instincts kick in when aiming at tanks thats for sure

[glacial light]

Tanks are deceptively easy to kill since even clusters can kill them if the explosive hits the vents

2 Impacts

[keen zinc]

Honestly wouldn't mind them buffing tanks armor

They're a bit too easy to squarsh

Maybe give them more HP

[glacial light]

They probably have very low HP but otherwise hard to kill like how devastators are like 2 tap to the head with any primary but otherwise absolute tanks if you don't

Thermite kills most med enemies in 2 sticks, devastator 1 stick even on the shield. They need to buff it more since it's just weaker than impact

[keen zinc]

I wish I understood PC specs and parts and shit

[stoic lotus]

it's not that hard

[keen zinc]

All these numbers and letters are essentially deep runes to me

I wanna make a wishlist of parts for a new PC to have a number to save up to

But idk what these numbers mean in comparison to one another

Idk what a VDKG KDGD 54 KING SUPER DUPER 5000 means

[glacial light]

For gaming a lot of it isn't hugely important unless you want a super computer or an absolute monster to show off

[keen zinc]

I can tell you the muzzle velocity of the M320 40mm grenade launcher but this is gibberish to me

[stoic lotus]

the way you spec a pc is you start with the budget and work backwards

[keen zinc]

[stoic lotus]

$1000 gets you something that can play all the AAA games well now, $1500 gets you all the next console generation's games too

[keen zinc]

But then graphics cards are like 1000 bucks on they own

[stoic lotus]

nah only super pricey ones

[keen zinc]

[glacial light]

Yea there's plenty of new ones third of that price and plenty of used that are fine

[keen zinc]

PC gaming is basically my main hobby/leisure activity so I am willing to put down dosh on it

~2000

More or less

Ballpark

Or at least save up dosh for it

All I know is Helldivers graphics options says something about VRAM so I assume more is gooder

[glacial light]

My brother builds like budget gaming PCs as a business and he can do $600 for one that runs most games this year at medium low graphics at 60fps

[keen zinc]

And people say it's CPU heavy so good CPU also

[glacial light]

So it's not terribly expensive all the timr

[keen zinc]

I wanna run game at Good Quality

[glacial light]

My PC is like 4 years old and runs helldivers on max at nearly 60fps, I turn down a few settings for 60fps, I think that was $850?

Hard to gauge cause I've been upgrading it over time for a decade

[keen zinc]

My current PC runs HD2 on lowish settings at 40-58 fps

[glacial light]

The most important components you don't want to cheap out on is graphics card, CPU, and power supply rest are flexible really if you want longevity

I can link resources I found useful in the past or continue the convo in detail elsewhere since this is HD2 thread

[keen zinc]

I just wanna run Helldivers 2 at high fps on good quality

[pastel igloo]

for my money HD2 is just, very cpu intensive

[honest acorn]

Yeah its very CPU hungry

[pastel igloo]

my pc runs basically anything i throw at it perfectly fine

[honest acorn]

So you'll want a modern fast CPU

[pastel igloo]

generally speaking on max settings

[honest acorn]

More than anything else

[pastel igloo]

HD2 was immediately stuttering

i had to play around with the settings for a good bit to get it running decently at all

[keen zinc]

So I want Good Graphics and Very Good CPU

[pastel igloo]

i've got it running on custom but basically medium settings

[glacial light]

Yea I'm biased from my brothers opinions but it seems currently Nvidia graphics cards and Intel CPU are the best for high end games

[heady halo]

honestly ive found the best use for turrets is "offensive defence"
Not defence against something attacking you, but laying an ambush for a patrol round a corner, or throwing one down a bit away as soon as breach or drop happens

[pastel igloo]

i don't think i have like, the best CPU ever which is probably why it's getting owned without custom settings

[glacial light]

It's likely cause I have my orbitals and eagle modules to 3 and no upgrades in turrets yet so of course my upgraded stuff is better than turrets rn

[stoic lotus]

amd cpus still da best

[heady halo]

i run hd2 on a 3 year old $500 laptop and it does okay (aspire 7, gtx1050, 4gb vram, i58300h)

[heady halo]

ah that does make sense

[keen zinc]

https://www.amazon.com/HP-25L-i7-10700-Octa-Core-Processor/dp/B09XFD7H92

This is my PC I think

[heady halo]

im in the same position but still like them
tho my favourite is the mech becuase its effectivly a turret you can move that can take more hits

[pastel igloo]

googled my current CPU and it is also discontinued like my last one damn

[glacial light]

Way overpriced for a 2060 it seems

[pastel igloo]

at least this one isn't a decade old

[keen zinc]

Oh yeah

It's super overpriced

[pastel igloo]

i'm running a 2060 myself

[glacial light]

Ope misread that as gtx

[rare nymph]

Turrets benefit greatly from their ship upgrades, yeah

[glacial light]

Ignore my statement

[stoic lotus]

so this is what I spec'd out for someone recently as $1500 including assembly fees from a pc builder

• fractal pop silent case
• ryzen 5 7600
• asus b650 plus
• 16gb ddr5
• rx 7800 xt
• 2tb samsung 990 pro
• corsair 650w PSU
• deepcool ak620

[pastel igloo]

got a i5-9600KF cpu, though i have no real idea if that's good or not

got it off my brother last time he upgraded his computer

[stoic lotus]

in your case amko just replace the gpu, the rx 7800 xt, with whatever nvidia card you can afford that starts with 40

[pastel igloo]

miles better than the i5-3470 cpu i had before at least

[glacial light]

Let's see my setup is a AMD Ryzen 5 3500X 6 core 3.8 Ghz
16 RAM
And Nvidia 3070

[keen zinc]

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-star-starfish-gif-26051009

[pastel igloo]

i'm also running 16 gigs of ram

[keen zinc]

I hit my head in the army too much for this stuff

[glacial light]

I think my ram's still DDR3 surprisingly

[supple siren]

As a society we need to make a less scary way to change CPUs

[stoic lotus]

put each of those bullet points into amazon and go nuts

[pastel igloo]

yeah

[glacial light]

There's a site PC part pickers that helps a lot

https://pcpartpicker.com/

[pastel igloo]

i probably should upgrade my CPU even now but

[keen zinc]

You can change CPUs?

[pastel igloo]

running old functioning stuff is money efficient

got the motherboard, CPU and GPU off my brother hella cheap

[glacial light]

You can change everything, only thing that's difficult is motherboard cause motherboard determines what CPU you can use amongst other parts