Helldivers 2: For Managed Democracy!

[short rune]

I really want to get my hands on the new bolt action rifle

[stone bridge]

Do you mean <t:1712833200:t>?

[quick plinth]

no

[stone bridge]

That's basically when they always update tho

[quick plinth]

wait

it says cest

ugh

steam why r u like this

I live halfway across the planet

[short rune]

Timezones...

[quick plinth]

somehow I selectively didn't see CEST all those times

[stone bridge]

Yeah my time is correct

Haha

[quick plinth]

wait

no

CEST

as in central european time

so steam is showing the correct time

[stone bridge]

Yes

[short rune]

I kinda regret spending all my medals on other things.

[honest acorn]

Boy am I glad it’s like 6 am for me and I’ll just be asleep lol

[honest acorn]

Medals are p fast now that personal orders are working

[quick plinth]

<t:1712826420:R> we get the new stuff

[short rune]

Oh, I really need to look into those

[quick plinth]

its kind of unfortunate

[stone bridge]

It's funny

[quick plinth]

resource caps make me not wanna play the fun game

[stone bridge]

The new bolt action rifle is a secret Stalwart/MG buff basically

Because it's an objectively bad weapon at doing what a normal primary should be good at

And I'm here for it

[short rune]

Stalwart shouldn't be a Stratagem to be fair

It wasn't in HD1

[stone bridge]

You'd need to gut it to make it a balanced primary

I'm fine with it being how it is

[quick plinth]

as it is RN it acts like a primary plus

[stone bridge]

You get 1000 rounds of infantry buzzkilling

[quick plinth]

but yeah I agree

[short rune]

It is amazing for light targets. Yes

[quick plinth]

with primaries that act like support weapons the stalwart or the mmg 34 look a lot more attractive

[short rune]

Did they buff the flamethrower?

[stone bridge]

Significantly, yes

[short rune]

That I noticed

And they also changed how the napalm splash works

[honest acorn]

I think the MMG is already pretty attractive

[short rune]

MMG?

Like the default MG

?

[stone bridge]

Yeah, it's a medium machine gun

Like an M60

[quick plinth]

since we have the LMG (stalwart) MMG (the 34 default) and HMG (forgor its name)

[short rune]

No clue if it had one

[honest acorn]

I have a feeling that some variety of MG and the new bolt action explosive sniper will be decent

Since that things apparently a baby autocannon

[short rune]

The bolt action?

[honest acorn]

Coming out tomorrow

[short rune]

Yeah

I think it's more like the Penetrating Liberator but as a sniper variant with the explosive buff

[honest acorn]

There was some leaked footage where it was able to kill anything an Autocannon could

Like turret vents and AA turrets and such

[short rune]

It only has medium penetration

Yes, vents

Couldnt the AC penetrate more though?

My memory isnt super great but I think it used to destroy factories?

[honest acorn]

Seemed to be the same in the vid

[glad marsh]

I believe the AC has medium armor penetration (vehicle)

[honest acorn]

We’ll see tomorrow

Yeah it’s also medium

But there’s multiple grades of medium pen and it’s higher than say the Diligence Countersniper

[glad marsh]

Mhm

[honest acorn]

Fwiw new sniper supposedly 2 shots factories to the vents and 1 shots bug holes

[glad marsh]

I believe there are two types are armor in the game(?)
Infantry and vehicle.
Stuff like chargers and hulks (and anything beyond that) have vehicle armor, everything below is infantry armor

[honest acorn]

But we’ll see if those are accurate

[short rune]

The new sniper seemed like an AP rifle?

[glad marsh]

Oh the explosive one?
It might be the explosive doing that then

[short rune]

There were two sniper-esk weapons IIRC. I think they dont mean the bolt action?

[glad marsh]

We don't have any bolt actions yet iirc?

[short rune]

They come tomorow

[honest acorn]

There’s a dev tweet talking about how there’s 10 ish armor grades and they’re summarized as light medium and heavy in rough groups of three

[glad marsh]

...we still don't have any bolt actions after that? (Unless you want a clever pun with the crossbow)

[honest acorn]

No I do

Only one I’ve been talking about lol

[short rune]

Ah

[glad marsh]

Hrm

[short rune]

There also was another sniper coming. No?

[stone bridge]

You basically need to run the Eruptor with an MG because it's an objectively bad weapon at being a primary

[short rune]

Adjudicator

[honest acorn]

The new primaries are a new DMR, the explosive crossbow, and the bolt action explosive sniper

[glad marsh]

That was a medium armor pen assault/battle rifle

[short rune]

So they add two MedPen rifles?

[glad marsh]

It at least looks like it might go full auto

But uh

Yeah

I didn't know the new boomy gun was bolt action though, that's a neat touch

[honest acorn]

I’m curious how many reserve mags it’s gonna have

A 5 shot mag is bad lol

[short rune]

I will probably end up using it like the M2016 ^^

[stone bridge]

I think 4-5 probably

[honest acorn]

I think you’re right

It’s a quasi-support weapon already

[glad marsh]

I guess this is another sort of support weapon yeah

[honest acorn]

I’m guessing 6 personally just to match the AMR

[glad marsh]

It's something between a grenade launcher and the autocannon (if it had airburst)

I think it'll be neat

Still

[honest acorn]

Explosive crossbow is one I’m not sure about

[glad marsh]

Personally extremely excited for the adjucator

Over all else

[honest acorn]

I just don’t know what kind of performance it’ll have

[short rune]

Perhaps the Explosive crossbow will work like a grenade rifle

[glad marsh]

It'll explode 🤷

[short rune]

Its said to have a low arch

[glad marsh]

For me, it depends how it compares to say.. an impact grenade
Cause the whole gimmick is that it explodes

[short rune]

So probably better for bots than bugs

[honest acorn]

I mean more how much damage it’ll do and how much demo it’ll have

And AoE

[glad marsh]

I'm mostly worried about the AOE

Cause it's presumably a 1 shot then reload, as a crossbow would be

[honest acorn]

I hope it’s high

[glad marsh]

It better be

[honest acorn]

I want those Hunter packs to be in many smaller pieces

[short rune]

Otherwise it would be useless

Enemies are not stationary enough to dial in accurately

[glad marsh]

I feel like it'll fall into the category of quasi support weapon eventually tbh, it's just.. not very primary-feeling
But it's not big enough to be a proper support weapon either

Unless the reload is wicked fast

Then

Hoo

Yippee

[honest acorn]

The reload is pretty fast

[glad marsh]

You now spawn with a spiky grenade launcher

[honest acorn]

Or it has a small mag I’m not sure

[glad marsh]

We'll just have to see

[short rune]

You will also stick your your secondary a lot then since you cant use it in close proximity.

[glad marsh]

Oh yeah
Speaking of secondaries
Grenade pistol

That's also a thing

I wonder if it'll replace my senator..

[short rune]

Looks interesting.

[dusky solar]

Wait did the new thingy drop?

[glad marsh]

Soon™

[honest acorn]

Like 5 hours

[dusky solar]

Poggers

[short rune]

I imagine the pistol has like super low ammo?

Also single shot of course

Like, I dont know its stats

[honest acorn]

I’ve heard it has 10 shots

Break action reload after each one

[short rune]

I wonder if it uses grenade launcher grenades

Stat-wise

[honest acorn]

They look a lot like them at least

[short rune]

Hmm

It might be good for bugs then

But definitely not for Automatons

Is the laser pistol any good?

[honest acorn]

It’s ok

Poor damage but infinite ish ammo

And good handling

[stone bridge]

It's magazine fed actually, a repeating crossbow

[glad marsh]

Ahhhh

That

Changes things a lot

[stone bridge]

Take a look at the warbond trailer if you haven't already

[short rune]

No overheating?

[stone bridge]

It shows snippets of the weapons

[alpine seal]

dagger has really poor damage compared to other secondaries but it's surprisingly decent vs. bots, you can point at devastator faces decently with it

does overheat

[stone bridge]

It does overheat yes

[short rune]

Ah

So not so good then if you already use it as a backup weapon

[alpine seal]

i like using it with the defender and ballistic shield as a pocket option

[glad marsh]

Obligatory post
https://youtu.be/g122XN-DQoY?si=knbJE_sGvaS0p1d7

I somehow forgot all the stuff despite having seen it the day it got put out ;-;

But yeaaaa adjucator looks niiiiccceee

[short rune]

Shield with a sidearm seems weird

[stone bridge]

The big unknown for me rn is what passive the armours will have

Excited for that

[glad marsh]

A little birdie (an entire article) told me the heavy one has 90% explosive resist

Buuuuttt I'm not sure myself

I can't fully trust anything till I actually get my hands on it

[stone bridge]

Hooley dooley

[rapid plover]

Maybe that'd help not getting instagibbed by a cluster vaguely nearby 😛

[glad marsh]

The article in question:
https://www.gamesradar.com/helldivers-2-is-never-removing-friendly-fire-but-it-is-adding-a-heavy-armor-set-with-90-explosive-resistance-to-help-you-survive-things-like-380mm-barrages/

[short rune]

They seem to use existing ones.

[dusky solar]

Nade pistol + impacts + backpack on a bug buster build (always abuse aliteration) is going to be so much ammo

[indigo bear]

I'm holding out for an armor that does that for burn damage. I want to use my flamethrower with impunity

[rapid plover]

Explosive resist seems a lot more widely applicable than arc though

[dusky solar]

That trio will make spewer planets much easier

[short rune]

I hope ground-breaker will be like uh, chemical resistance

[glad marsh]

Oh actually this is totally confirmed (unless the arrowhead devs in the discord are lying)

[indigo bear]

Were chemical weapons a thing in HD1? So far we've got like, the strike and that's it

[short rune]

Yes

[indigo bear]

Rad. Very rad

[glad marsh]

Yeah there was an acid gun iirc

[short rune]

Napalm and acid largely

[rapid plover]

A few

[short rune]

There also was a chemical weapons specialist

[alpine seal]

HUH

is that resistance specific to friendly fire or is the tradeoff with fortified not getting the recoil from crouching

[honest acorn]

There was a chemthrower yeah

[alpine seal]

i suppose we'll find out in 3 hours

[honest acorn]

And a poison bullets gun

[honest acorn]

It was great

Very strong slow and DoT

[short rune]

I wish we would get to swap around passives

[rich marlin]

Haven't played in over a week so time to hop on and get my helldiver senses back

[short rune]

Didn't they also speak about a new warbond? Or only a premium one?

[rich marlin]

was just watching the news and one of the ticker stories was about granting temporary Class C citizenship to pet fishes

[short rune]

So your children can get a pet fish. You need to gain enough social credits so it adds up

IIRC you can also get a hamster with C

[stone bridge]

I don't think so

All the Warbond armours have had unique passives so far

[short rune]

True

Steeled used Sevo, Cutting Edge used Arc Resistance

[alpine seal]

servo assisted...

though i suppose that's an odd case due to being the launch one

[short rune]

Throwing distance is such a blessing

Especially when you are running stealth

Throw ordnance markers from far away

[alpine seal]

i should start running servo assisted again yeah

now that i survive rockets most of the time as opposed to 30% of the time without fortified

[short rune]

I wish I could combine scout with servo.

Reduced detection and increased throwing distance

Together with the scramble signal buff

[dusky solar]

I'm hyped and hopeful for the 90 explosive resist to be good

Verrrrry curious if we can assault into 380s

[stone bridge]

90% explosive resist might be well cracked

[short rune]

No doubt they would nerf it.

Like, concussion and explosive damage is like a super relevant thing

And if you drop prone it would probably even be nullified

[quick plinth]

arc resist is gonna be whatever till we see what the squids dish out

[dusky solar]

Who knows? Either way if it DOES exist, even briefly, i'm gonna be running into 380s like a madlad (is madlad gender neutral?)

Madlass just doesn't have the same ring

[short rune]

Squids?

You mean the Illus because of their tesla weapons?

[quick plinth]

yeah

however- explosive resist is much more- versatile

so even like 60% resist armor would be kinda busted

[cobalt patrol]

I mostly just want it to get a b it more AP in it's unsafe mode

Genuinely if it gets enough armor pen to punch through heavy dev shields in unsafe mode agian, i think that puts it back to a healthy place?

[stone bridge]

Yeah I reckon

[rich marlin]

Really like that new mission type where you gotta defend the rockets taking off

[quick plinth]

it feels like an actual defence

its really nice

unlike a certain other mission type exclusive to defence operations

[short rune]

Is the kicking problem still a thing?

I thought the devs tried to find a solution

[quick plinth]

kicking in what sense?

[short rune]

Trolls that kick people shortly before extraction.

It least I hear about them as much as early on.

[quick plinth]

I mean- it shouldn't be too hard to solve- however it does seem like its gonna take them a bit to implement something

[hazy oriole]

oh i was just coming here to complain about it some more lmao i hate retrieve essential personnel with a passion now
like it is soul crushing loading into it and realizing people are trying to brute force it

and not communicating

because its a 99.9% chance of failure and all i can do is just shrug

because trying to get them to do the strat just doesn't work

[quick plinth]

the strat being, hoping people can keep the enemies away from the civvie paths

[hazy oriole]

i was thinking more along the lines of the "keep people off to the side to take the heat off a runner" because the game just drops so fucking many bots on you that just shooting them barely seems to work

[quick plinth]

twas' what I said

[cobalt patrol]

Aww

Warbond isnt live ;.;

[short rune]

It will be soon.

[tiny flume]

I thought reset was in an hour

[short rune]

The super-store reset was 2 minutes ago technically

[oblique hazel]

its live for me

try reloading

[short rune]

At which page is the bolt action?

[stone bridge]

Its already live? damn

[oblique hazel]

if you're talking abt the eruptor its page 2

[short rune]

Hmm. What is page 1?

[oblique hazel]

the adjudicator is page 1, and the crossbow and grenade pistol are page 3

[short rune]

Ah

Thanks

So at least I get to try interesting weapons

[unkempt river]

AHHHHH It's here?

I can't wait to get home

[short rune]

Cheese is using Paracausal technology to get quick access to it.

[tiny flume]

For folks who wanna see

[oblique hazel]

there's also a new tier of ship modules for every section

though they all look p situational

[cobalt patrol]

Exploding crossbow damage

listed as "480"

er, 420

so uh

Lots

[short rune]

Wait... is that a melee weapon?!

[oblique hazel]

its a grenade

[tiny flume]

Eagles stay winning

[tiny flume]

Thermite grenade

[cobalt patrol]

YES

YESSSSSSS

[tiny flume]

It's supposed to look like those old WW1 stick grenades

[cobalt patrol]

Also @stone bridge

You should beh appy

[tiny flume]

The fire, eagle and arc ones look good

[stone bridge]

https://tenor.com/view/sickos-sicko-haha-yes-creeper-gif-25057805

[short rune]

Ooh. I might get that one in place of the pyro grenade

[oblique hazel]

I can't really get excited abt the fire one until they fix DOT effects

[cobalt patrol]

I always host

so

[stone bridge]

this fucks

And hey, more stuff to spend samples on

....a lot of samples

[short rune]

I mean, the entire set does

[cobalt patrol]

<@&1206091872716595200> Get in loosers, we're going hell diving

[shy prairie]

armor quirks non-unique it seems

[short rune]

I also think thats the old Helldiver rifle?

[stone bridge]

yeah that's disappointing

oh well

[short rune]

What quirk does the first armour have?

[shy prairie]

servo assisted

[stone bridge]

servo assist, yeah

[shy prairie]

a lil weird since it has the CE prefix

[hexed steeple]

they should make you wait 8 weeks after you buy it

[unkempt river]

I cri

[tiny flume]

Thermite seems to burn on the spot it lands for a few seconds

Then explodes

No big AOE

[unkempt river]

How is it vs armor?

[stone bridge]

yeah its an anti-armour grenade

[tiny flume]

oo it sticks to stuff, I see

I'll tell you when I'm not in a difficulty 1 😛

[short rune]

Oooh

This is neat

[cobalt patrol]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X20T3AMR6HY Live with the new gear

[burnt vapor]

so the new booster is 25% reduced time for the pelican

[orchid pulsar]

<@&1206091872716595200> anyone down to dive?

[graceful bluff]

I feel like if you need that, other boosters are more useful

[shy prairie]

could dive

[shy prairie]

good for ethical SC grinding

[cobalt patrol]

Eradictor is interesting

can kill bases with it.

[orchid pulsar]

verry interesting also<@&1206091872716595200> room for two more

[orchid pulsar]

were in activity 2

[cobalt patrol]

Early erdacitor feedback is that it's a Support wepaon that's a primary.

With caveats of it handles like a drunken whale, it is BEYOND UNSAFE to use near anyone

[quick plinth]

however you can kill a whole squad of enemies

[cobalt patrol]

also the ammo upgrade is huge for Spear/RR

[stone bridge]

does it actually reload the entire backpack?

[cobalt patrol]

Dunno, havent tried it yet, but it should do.

I bought the reduced spread upgrade first

i think

[stone bridge]

hot dog

[cobalt patrol]

or the increased FF damage.

FT*

not FF.

[stoic lotus]

increased friendly fire damage

[blissful sparrow]

When the cluster Bomb still isn't efficent enough

[stoic lotus]

how does the extra bomb thing work

[quartz cloak]

So, the thermite grenade is
Underwhelming

[shy prairie]

doesn't kill charger?

[quartz cloak]

Couldn't tell you, used it on bots

[tiny flume]

What did it work on?

[quartz cloak]

Devastators, barely

Anything bigger largely ignored it

[tiny flume]

Maybe if you spam 2-3

[stoic lotus]

did you try sticking it to the back of a hulk

[quartz cloak]

I did not

[shy prairie]

some people say it's suffering from the dot bug

[quartz cloak]

I also tried the new battle rifle, I enjoyed it but I don't think it's great

[tiny flume]

Yeah it's... fine

Not got the explosive one yet

[quartz cloak]

Which explosive?

[tiny flume]

Page 2 rifle

It goes boom

[quartz cloak]

Ahh, I got it, it's Kind of Cool but uhh

It's the world's most indirect Stalwart buff

[tiny flume]

How so?

[quartz cloak]

It's practically a tertiary, it handles worse than the AMR, has a rate of fire of 'no' and a tiny magazine

[ionic holly]

Fuckin
middle of the knight, randomly drops new bond and everything else

god i love arrowhead

time to try the new marksmans

[quartz cloak]

It's noon their time

[ionic holly]

Fair enough

its a solid
4am for me, literally only up because of chickens

Also they fuckin

[shy prairie]

american moment

[ionic holly]

changed ground breaker's passive but not devasator

why do we need yet another fortified heavy armour

https://tenor.com/view/controlmypc-cat-screaming-discord-gif-20582295

[quartz cloak]

Yeah, we got two in the staring warbond, they really want us not to die to explosions

[ionic holly]

JUST GIMME A HEAVY ARMOUR WITH ENGINEERING KIT, PLEASE

As someone who has almost all currently availible heavy armour, i believe now four of them are fortified

[quartz cloak]

Yep, Four

[ionic holly]

i kinda get the idea, i do
slower bois have harder times escape explosives

but like-
please.

[quartz cloak]

But also we have two of those already from the starter warbond

[ionic holly]

y e a h.

we have 2 free sets that do it, a super store set

and now a premium bond set

[quartz cloak]

Marksman is the second armour set you can get

[ionic holly]

like, listen
love my heavy armour
i really do
but please, i just want more stuns

[quartz cloak]

I want more impacts

And the recoil reduction which is why I don't take the extra-padded mostly

[ionic holly]

I couldnt really get into impacts, but i also actively run the spear and an EMS strike

so my tastes are fucked

[quartz cloak]

Hey, I run spear

[ionic holly]

Hell yeah

https://tenor.com/view/my-man-together-smile-gif-20682410

[quick plinth]

okay so

I tried it

only got 2 spears back

so

that's weird

should be 3

[quartz cloak]

Ehh?

[quick plinth]

might be a conflict between the recent changes and the new upgrade that's slipped testing

[ionic holly]

...havoc do you somehow already have the new PAC module?

or are my eyes fucked and its 25k and not 250k like i thought

[quick plinth]

I bought it

[ionic holly]

i am an idiot, fair

[quick plinth]

its 25k

[alpine seal]

ohohohohoho

i was right to hoard the super sample cap

[ionic holly]

Try it with something like the recoiless?

i wonder if it just doesnt work right with backpacks

[quick plinth]

I mean idk they're listed

[ionic holly]

Im not saying they arent, im curious if its just bugged with backpacks specifically.

and the recoiless is in a similair boat of having gotten a resupply pickup buff iirc

[quick plinth]

might be the case

[alpine seal]

hoping for the autocannon to get all 10 mags from a resupply

that'll be huge

[stone bridge]

its bugged and not working atm

MG only reloads one mag too

[graceful bluff]

you'd think that they'd check if their code actually worked, not like it'd be hard to check

[alpine seal]

arrowhead do have a tendency to just push things

often to crash-related results

[blissful sparrow]

difference between making sure it works and making sure it is enabled 😄

[alpine seal]

the nightmare of a live service pipeline

[cobalt patrol]

Yeah, there's a lot of diff between live enviroment and testnviorment

they're probably pretty "oh, dammit" themselves aobut things

[blissful sparrow]

as a programmer currently going through the hell of having a GoLive.. tomorrow... with 2 different feature flags... Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah

[alpine seal]

if there's anything i've learned about coding though it's that anything that sounds simple to do has a coin flip odds of being very much not simple

[tiny flume]

Often times they know the bugs there but it's pushed anyway

A bug like that is low priority

What you don't see is all the map terrain errors, game crashes, economy stuff etc that's been fixed

[graceful bluff]

Yeah it's just weird it didn't even get put in known issues

if they knew

[tiny flume]

Stuff slips through, the guy in charge of checking weapon reloads may have sneezed

[oak crow]

a little bit sad about the medium armors quirk, would have preferred the extra armor rating or the engineer kit, but damn does it look good

[cobalt patrol]

That would have required spoiling this was coming

so

[oak crow]

how is the new battle rifle btw?

[cobalt patrol]

Both the new guns i've tired are very interesting\

[graceful bluff]

I mean known issues gets updated like daily

[cobalt patrol]

BR really requires accuracy

[sinful bay]

Oh yeah it released today

[quick plinth]

it has semi and full auto, has the liberator scope and slots in nicely between the Liberator and Diligence.

it requires the accuracy of the Diligence to be effective but since you can full auto it, it has the ability to get out out of a close range kerfuffle.

[sinful bay]

Hows the Grenade pistol?

[quick plinth]

its on the last page

even with my capped medals it's gonna take me a sec to get it

[sinful bay]

What the fat fuck armor does?

[quick plinth]

its a fortified(the passive) heavy armor

[sinful bay]

Ah so is like the fortified commando armor?

[shy prairie]

Nah

That one has the extra hp

[sinful bay]

Oh nice!

Time to grab the expendable anti-tank and rocket jump /j

[graceful bluff]

does the eruptor still close bug holes and fabs?

[stone bridge]

yup

[graceful bluff]

noice

that's gonna be my primary of choice with the arc thrower then

[cobalt patrol]

It handles like a drunken whale

seriously

like it's very good

buit also

ooof

[hexed steeple]

the eruptor can actually get fabricators from bizarre angles

better than the autocannon in this facet

cause the explosion is bigger it hink

[graceful bluff]

still no airburst rockets though :c

[short rune]

So many people seem to be angry about the new weapons

[graceful bluff]

It's a day ending in day?

Also take this from an arc thrower main, the circuit expansion is very much a double edged sword

[blissful sparrow]

... thanks, now i want that XM24 orwhatever it was
Where you aim at a point to lock a range and then fire airbursting grenade that detonate at that distance

[graceful bluff]

gonna be way easier for it to do a 360 right back to you :v

[graceful bluff]

||There's a leaked airburst rocket launcher which just rips shit, basically cluster bomb strike in rocket form||

[stone bridge]

It's the Helldivers community, they'll build a strawman out of tin and scraps then scream at it until they go blue in the face

[sinful bay]

God yeah , i had to block some doomsayer youtubers that were just screaming nad never happy

[graceful bluff]

Still gonna grab it though because that's part of the fun

they really upped the rare sample cost of stuff huh

[blissful sparrow]

i don't want a good weapon, i want a Gimmicky weapon

[graceful bluff]

It's gonna cause so many friendly fire incidents

it's prox fuse

[blissful sparrow]

Shouldn't have stood near the 20 hunters that were charging you if you didn't want to get airbursted

[sinful bay]

Sawed off shotgun, as long as you keep hitting targets the reload time keeps getting shorter

[graceful bluff]

Ask yourself, would arrowhead give it a minimum arming range

[graceful bluff]

Just give me the double barrel you find sometimes but sawn off and a secondary

[civic apex]

thermite sticky

[sinful bay]

With more stagger

[graceful bluff]

can thermite close bug holes/fabs

also speaking of friendly fire incidents, the XXL bay is gonna do so much friendly fire until people get used to the new aoe range

esp with cluster

[oblique storm]

The Break Action is so fucking bad

[blissful sparrow]

i'll just take the shotty straight up.
Give it to me as a primary
its not good enough to be a support weapon anyway.
But it feels so good to use

[oblique storm]

it's so funny

[graceful bluff]

it actually does a surprising amount of damage

[sinful bay]

Sadly, that's why if it was to become an actual weapon it would need heavy tweeks

[blissful sparrow]

yeah its per shot damage is super solid, its basically a quick reload punisher

[graceful bluff]

Eh it's fine if they made it a primary rather than a support weapon

[cerulean sluice]

It’d be a good “support Primary” for Stalwarting

[sinful bay]

Speed up the reloading at the very least

it reloads so slow

[blissful sparrow]

i'd even be fine if literally the only change they make is to make it a primary. Don't even add it to your armory or whatever, just a primary laying around the map you can pick up for fun

[oblique storm]

I think the purpose is if you somehow run out of primary ammo

[short rune]

I used to be an Arc-Thrower main before I was banned from using it.

[oblique storm]

but it also always seem to have no ammo

they should just make it start with full always

[graceful bluff]

Honestly add a bit of spread to it, call it sawnoff and make it a secondary, put a slug version as a primary and make a civilian warbond

[shy prairie]

It starts with only the 2 rounds inna gun

[graceful bluff]

put the shovel in as the third weapon as the first melee

[short rune]

Also people are seriously complaining that the bolt action rifle is single-shot

[graceful bluff]

Pmuch all weapons you pick up off the ground have one mag in them

[sinful bay]

They don't know what a bolt action is??

[short rune]

Apparently not

Or why the DMR is not full automatic by default

[quick plinth]

gawd

people are

just

[short rune]

Yep...

[blissful sparrow]

ah yes, me firing the AMR on full auto hunting gunships after the first shot and snapping my neck over backwards after the third

[quick plinth]

then again i'm military tech georg and shouldn't be counted when it comes to the knowledge of military equipment that the avreage person has

[short rune]

Isn't that literally the HMG?

[alpine seal]

one sortie reviews: adjudicator feels like the middle ground between diligence and liberator it was intended to be. best fired crouched, recoil will throw off your game. doesn't feel like it has good breakpoints vs. bot infantry compared to the diligence, you have to aim for the head

[graceful bluff]

Here at AAA studios we fire the whole bullet, that's 65% more bullet per bullet

[short rune]

DMRs are surprisingly not good for bug hunts. ^^

[alpine seal]

i enjoy it having an auto mode for sure, but overall i would prefer the diligence aside from one point: it has the good scope the sickle has

[short rune]

Who would have thought

[quick plinth]

anyway- tried the eruptor on bugs,

[alpine seal]

which automatically makes it a better long range option for me

[quick plinth]

it slaps

[alpine seal]

eruptor slaps on both fronts tbh

[quick plinth]

yeap

[short rune]

I hope they wont nerf it

But... they most likely will

[quick plinth]

I don't really see how they could nerf it

[graceful bluff]

I wish they'd rework how patrol spawning works so you could have snipers doing cover fire

[alpine seal]

very liberating for the light support weapon playstyle e.g. any of the MGs or lascannon

[short rune]

It can destroy factories

[quick plinth]

reduced AoE maybe?

[quick plinth]

that was their intention

[short rune]

Oh?

I thought it was just a Bolt action rifle with dum-dum projectiles

[alpine seal]

it can destroy bot buildings, which is insane, but you have to aim for the bottom of the intake like the quasar instead of the top like autocannon

[graceful bluff]

it's basically shooting a frag grenade

[alpine seal]

takes some getting used to from autocannon muscle memory

[short rune]

Ah

[quick plinth]

the AoE is big enough that it didn't seem to matter where I hit the vent as long as it vent inside

[short rune]

I wonder how it will work against drop-ships

[quick plinth]

Quasar really does ask you to aim low

[alpine seal]

it was pretty consistently bouncing off the top for me

[quick plinth]

doesn't have enough damage to take them down

but you can just shoot at the bots inside

[short rune]

Ah, shame. Guess I have to stick to recoilless

[quick plinth]

AoE is huge

collated 3 striders and some raiders that were huddled together

[short rune]

If shooting down dropships is still welcome. I see nobody else doing it

[alpine seal]

one of its main downsides on that note is poor AP capability as opposed to the autocannon, with only medium. twoshots standard devastators to the body, but it won't solve heavy devastators

notably the adjudicator also does have medium AP, but it didn't wow me in terms of taking down devs either

had to dump 3/4ths of the mag if not going for headshots, which is decently standard for medium AP primaries

[quick plinth]

though

it's stable and accurate enough to 2 tap them in the head (devs)

deals enough damage to backpack a heavy dev in decent time as well

[alpine seal]

makes sense

i think the recoil will take some time for me to get used to but i like the gun's design space for sure

a good scope can change your life

[quick plinth]

unfortunately it also seems missaligned

[alpine seal]

oh no

not again

[quick plinth]

like my centredot is slightly above where the cross of the crosshair is

[alpine seal]

it keeps happening

[quick plinth]

when it comes to the eruptor

it has a similar issue to the AMR

[alpine seal]

figured

i'll have to see how the page 3 weapons do once i get the medals. everyone's singing about the inclusion of the grenade pistol and i will almost definitely explode myself thinking i'll pull out the redeemer

[quick plinth]

or me with the senator

[alpine seal]

sounds good for the ballistic shield playstyle alongside a defender

[quick plinth]

just unlocked it

lets see how it goes

[alpine seal]

eruptor will be very popular for solo operatives that like splitting up from the team (me)

[short rune]

Yep

Thats what I want it for

[stone bridge]

The Eruptor is the clunkiest piece of shit ever but it is very unique and powerful

Well balanced I think

[short rune]

I wonder if I drop it for the silenced rifle should they ever add it

[keen zinc]

gonna try out the eruptor

will give you the Jump Trooper review after this mission

[short rune]

Jump-Pack my beloved

[rare nymph]

I just tried the eruptor on a high value asset defence

[quick plinth]

@alpine seal okay so it doesnt kill nursing spewers in one shot

takes 2

[rare nymph]

Went prone in the back line and had fun with the shooting gallery

[quick plinth]

it comes with 8 +1 grenade but that seems like a bug

[short rune]

So it's definitely good for jump troopers

Just get an elevated position, drop prone and get started

[cobalt patrol]

I lowkey love it, honestly

Like it's such a drunken whale but at the same time, the range of attack it has to take out bot fabs

or just blowing off dev arms etc in one shot

[copper crest]

Nah just give it a 30s cooldown

[rare nymph]

Thermite nades don’t seem awful, but given how much teamfire happens to big guys on asset defence it’s hard to say for sure

[copper crest]

Now it’s a kinetic strike strat with a free shotgun

[hexed steeple]

eruptor slaps, thermite grenade kinda sucks

[burnt vapor]

I’m very interested to see how the crossbow performs whenever people grab that

[hexed steeple]

that's my assesment so far

[stone bridge]

my honest take is that, since Impacts can kill a charger in like 2-3 belly hits, Thermites should at least be able to melt leg or head armour in 1

But they cannot

[short rune]

Thermite grenades should be a tad stronger yes.

Anti armour

[stone bridge]

and Impacts are far more widely applicable

[rare nymph]

That makes sense

[hexed steeple]

a couple of times when i threw them at a hulk it bounced off 💀

[stone bridge]

Ugh yeah

Why can they ricochet...

[quick plinth]

yeah the spikes take a bit to come out

you gotta cook them for a sec

[stone bridge]

Yeah, it's actually very well tuned imo

[short rune]

[ionic holly]

i fucking love the adjucator

[sinful bay]

Yeah that's what i fear, thermite sticks on charger
Charger comes for a kiss
You die and the chargers get damaged

[stone bridge]

The thermite detonation is extremely tiny, you'll realistically get popped by it once in a blue moon

[sinful bay]

it is high damaging?

[stone bridge]

It's...not bad, but the damage is too low rn imo

Ashley and I used em for like 4 missions and were unimpressed

[rare nymph]

Really what I want is to be able to throw two of them in a scorchers face and know that’ll eventually kill it

[sinful bay]

sad

impact and stun are still king

[stone bridge]

Smokes very much have a place into bots now too

Especially with the Eruptor and Nade Pistol on the scene

[sinful bay]

do tell

[rare nymph]

Where do you throw smokes, btw? I tried them a while ago and I couldn’t figure out the most effective placement

[quick plinth]

since you have other in-hellpod fab destruction tools that arent tied to a stratagem, you can afford not to take explosive grenades, and since you have more anti armor options as well now you can afford the smoke nades

[stone bridge]

They're basically portable cover - @cobalt patrol can tell you more

[quick plinth]

also the grenade pistol is somewhat underwhelming agiainst spewers (takes two for nursin, I can't imagine it fares better against the regular ones)

[oblique storm]

also

oop

[sinful bay]

That's awesome

[oblique storm]

guess the veteran

[tall nova]

How are the new guns

[keen zinc]

thermite sucks

[azure pewter]

https://tenor.com/view/dissolve-gif-18144671279500427383

[rare nymph]

Eruptor’s fun tho

[ionic holly]

Adjucator is up there for one of my favorite weapons

[sinful bay]

The Brazillian rifle

[ionic holly]

com 2 bugzil

[rare nymph]

It’s a shame the new hangar upgrade doesn’t apply to the 500kg. Alas, that’d be too much freedom for one diver to command

[burnt vapor]

Adjudicator I have seen split opinion on the general vibe seems to be if you can make it work for you it’s a solid gun but if you can’t deal with it’s recoil and accuracy requirements it’s underwhelming

[cobalt patrol]

It's absolotuey a head popper

[graceful bluff]

I still really want a kinetic bombardment strike

[quick plinth]

moreso than even the dilegences since you have more ammo and less recoil for repeat shots

[graceful bluff]

like the rail cannon strike but more targeted towards getting rid of several less armored targets

[burnt vapor]

The diligence has enough damage to body shot which leaves dedicated head popping to the new rifle

[graceful bluff]

I just wanna see like 10 railcannon target markers apear on the battlefield

[quick plinth]

I mean, i'm actually liking the abjucator more than the dilegence ( my previous fav marksman rifle)

since it twoshots to the body and followup shots are easy (raiders)

[blissful sparrow]

Payday 2 Cloaker sound before 10 enemies drop dead

[copper crest]

Orbital gatling?

[sinful bay]

Giant heavy weapons guy floating in space revs up and shoots at bug

[graceful bluff]

I want my democracy officer to go "fuck these ten bots in particular"

[rare nymph]

Also, I love how the new upgrades continue the theme of the super destroyers being janky as all hell

[graceful bluff]

and just send a bunch of the mini railcannon strikes down

[ionic holly]

Atmospheric monitoring is my favourite new one

[tiny flume]

Literally the weather channel

[ionic holly]

"grants a subscription"

[rare nymph]

One of the bridge crew just pulls up the weather channel on their super phone

[keen zinc]

<@&1206091872716595200> we need uno mas

[tiny flume]

Why does it says "perfect weather" on everyday in every region?

[blissful sparrow]

Resource sink in the future: Gotta keep paying for all these subscriptions to adfree services

[ionic holly]

Also, my drip came to me in a dream

[sinful bay]

I love that
One of the upgrades for the Falcon is literally "You are paying the crew better now! 50% reduced cooldown timer!"

[glacial light]

it costs samples to get a handcart

And I think it's a singular handcart

[sinful bay]

A freaking Handcart

There is an sample upgrade that is literally "Now you are accepting ammo donation from families from super Earth!"

[north fiber]

Don't forget the upgrade to allow breach loading on the orbital guns

Because by default they're muzzle loaders

[rare nymph]

A level three upgrade

[glacial light]

Whoever got out into space to muzzle load the orbital Cannon in minutes is a hero

[graceful bluff]

The new sentry upgrade is stuffing packing peanuts into every crevice you can of your sentries

[sinful bay]

The engineer lady said too that for her to use her work tools she needs to pay a fucking subscription

[north fiber]

Remember: a strong economy is a democratic economy! So spend all that money as fast as possible!

[rare nymph]

The flame dot upgrade adds, among other things, capsaicin to your fuel

[glacial light]

I'm starting to think the devs aren't portraying the themes of the setting in a completely good light /s

[blissful sparrow]

Pepperspraying Bugs

[burnt vapor]

Does this mean the bots have taste sensors and can feel pain from spice?

[rare nymph]

And I’m pretty sure the arc upgrade means your arc weapons now have electronics wired in series

[glacial light]

Bots eyes have low pen armor against spicy

[sinful bay]

They can dispense milk on their eyes when needed

[rare nymph]

…now there’s a picture

[sinful bay]

for a pendulum

[glacial light]

I like to believe that the super destroyers are cheap because they're almost completely analog

[sinful bay]

I wonder if Super Earth send 'garbage collectors' after every mission to grab as much leftovers as they can from teh planet to 'recycle' for Helldivers

[glacial light]

We're just eyeballing FTL jumps

[sinful bay]

In analog defence, IRL USA Navy tried to go full digital controls and consoles for a while
They reverted back after trying it out

[rare nymph]

I remember watching all the ships over Durgen and seeing a super destroyer get blown out of orbit every other minute

[burnt vapor]

Sometimes analog is just better when you need something reliable and robust

[rare nymph]

So I firmly believe the super destroyers are as cheap and shitty as possible

[glacial light]

I meant analog as in no electronics, not analog signals which are based

A new idea for the signal jammer, when it's active instead of disabling stratagems the super destroyer just "eyeballs" it and it has a super scatter

Might land withib 40m of where you called it

Pull out binoculars to aim for the red laser

[rare nymph]

But that’s what they do already! They just shoot at the big beam in the sky /s

[sinful bay]

If it's all analog then i have to commend the team aiming my stratagems, kudos

[quick crown]

So does the 380 have somekind of targeting priority to it or is it fully random because i can't tell

[copper crest]

Has your super destroyer ever been blown up? No? Then skill issue on their part

[blissful sparrow]

either full random or a certain preset pattern

tho if it has targeting priority then only for Helldivers

the times i've seen it directly impact a helldivers forehead is a bit too high to be entirely random

[rare nymph]

It targets whichever of your teammates are most likely to complain about it

[glacial light]

I like to imagine they have extremely good targeting but they're like that's an extremely undemocratic looking pebble that could jeopardize the mission let's bomb it

[oblique storm]

https://i.imgur.com/3u4eF2q.jpeg

ENTIRE mission without dying

let's go

[quick crown]

increased scatter event is just the WCO drinking too much libertea

[glacial light]

Hard libertea

[quick crown]

Joel's* Hard Liber-tea

[sinful bay]

They mixed the jet fuel with Liber-Tea!
TREASON

[cobalt patrol]

Fairly certain it's fully random with the 380

[quick crown]

New supersample upgrade. Adds menthol to the jetfuel to discourage crew members from distilling it into booze

(At least i think thats what they added to sub torpedos I can't remember the story)

[cobalt patrol]

The new flamethrower upgrade includes both... capsicum and also the thign that makes mustard spicy

so you know

Super earth really putting their finest minds to the test

[burnt vapor]

It’s working isn’t it?

[north fiber]

I suspect the things like White Phosphorous is doing more

[modest fiber]

the flamenwerfer is da best

[sinful bay]

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34559601/

it sure as fuck didn't stop some people from trying

[quick crown]

Ag

Its METHANOL sorry

During the first half of the war, the U.S. utilized steam-powered torpedo engines on its Pacific theater-based submarines, each of which was fueled by 180-proof grain alcohol. Without other alcohol aboard the subs to indulge in, the sailors quickly turned to the high-proof torpedo fuel, combining it with pineapple juice to smooth its burn. And thus, Torpedo Juice was born.

Fun fact

After sailors wouldn't stop even after methanol (They would filter it through bread which wouldn't always work) higherups decided to step down the shit they spike the fuel with

After this, the U.S. Navy replaced the methanol with slightly less harmful croton oil, a purgative substance that caused extreme stomach pain, vertigo, fainting, and diarrhea if consumed. Still, the sailors couldn’t be stopped. Rather than swearing off Torpedo Juice for good, sailors aboard the U.S.S. Gudgeon developed their own distilling system to remove the croton oil from the booze.

[dusk agate]

Helldivers chat really out here citing sources

[sinful bay]

You can find methanol in some whiskey and Tequila tho :3c

[quick crown]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torpedo_juice

[sinful bay]

It became a fucking thug of war

[quick crown]

Listen, I have nothing but respect to people who will fight that hard and go that deep to get their booze. Its sad in a way but also inspiring

[sinful bay]

You got a good point

https://www.carbotecnia.info/learning-center/distillates-treatment/methanol-and-distilled-drinks/?lang=en also plz drink safely people

[dusk agate]

Loving this story, loving this history, horribly tempted to make Topedo Juice at home. Like, I know it aint the same without the poison, and also...

[quick crown]

Helldivers out in the field desperately using their railguns to distill E-710 into booze

[copper crest]

Ah yes, the classic taste of pineapple and everclear

[meager sandal]

This counts as a tiki drink

[short rune]

Most civilized Helldivers chat all over super earth

[rare nymph]

I prefer my torpedo juice with a little umbrella

[cobalt patrol]

Exploding crossbow has uh, an interesting amoutn of bolt drop

[oblique storm]

https://va.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_sbs4wpPtNa1asjldg_720.mp4

1000 KILOGRAM BOMB

LET'S GOOOOOOOOO

[rare nymph]

500kg is unaffected

[cobalt patrol]

Yeah, it's very clear on being multiple bomb drops get +1

[glacial light]

Huh interesting

[cobalt patrol]

the 500kg is a single bomb

[glacial light]

Cluster becomes marginly more unpredictability

Doesn't it drop a ton of bombs already

[short rune]

Marginally?

The whole map explodes. ^^

[blissful sparrow]

cluster gets exactly 1 more shrapnel

[short rune]

It should add a further carrier projectile

[glacial light]

That one sharpnel will still find a way to kill me

[oblique storm]

oh lame

[burnt vapor]

From what I saw I think it might
I only did a single test but I want to say it had 3 and now has 4

[glacial light]

But also eagle upgrades goated as always

[short rune]

But yeah, 1000 kg bomb is what concerns me

[ionic holly]

cluster bombs my beloved

[cobalt patrol]

The 500kg does not get an extra bomb

[short rune]

Ah?

I see

[ionic holly]

Yeah

[glacial light]

Smoke has more than one bomb? I want no one to be able to see

[ionic holly]

solely multi bomb ones

[blissful sparrow]

does 110s get an extra missile? might make them more reliable

[cobalt patrol]

Read what it says again, because this is making me grumpy:

If the drop drops muitple bombs, then it adds +1 to that.

500kg drops 1 bomb - it still drops 1 bomb after.

Eagle airstrike drops 5, now it drops 6. etc.

[short rune]

Fair enough

[north fiber]

It does

[glacial light]

I didn't realize smoke dropped multiple bombs in the first place

[hollow plover]

The 110 would be dropping- yeah

[north fiber]

Which probably does a lot to move it closer to the intent of being an eagle version of the railgun strike

[ionic holly]

For the record, in game, it does not show the 110s

as those are rockets

not bombs.

[glacial light]

RIP guess rockets aren't bombs

[blissful sparrow]

very fast bombs

[glacial light]

Napalm gets extra goated for bugs

[ionic holly]

its explictly anything with 1. bombs and 2. multiple bombs

Das all

airstrike, cluster, smoke, napalm

[glacial light]

raises hand
Is mayonnaise multiple bombs

[ionic holly]

No patrick

[rare nymph]

It is if you eat the whole jar in one go

[ionic holly]

what the fuck

[hexed steeple]

how many bombs do clusters have to begin with

[ionic holly]

yes

[short rune]

3 carriers was it?

[ionic holly]

jokes aside i wanna say 6ish?

[burnt vapor]

I think so

[short rune]

No clue in how many they split tho

[rare nymph]

So that means with the upgrade it’ll be yes + 1

[cobalt patrol]

Exploding Crossbow is werid

[short rune]

Isn't it just a longer-range grenade launcher?

[ionic holly]

Last gun to get for me, im
vaguely interested

Also
finally
a means to outpost pop without calling in stratagems

[short rune]

That was fast

[ionic holly]

i stocked up a fuck load of medals

[hexed steeple]

how’s the adjudicator

[ionic holly]

it is my favorite non-shotgun gun in the game

[short rune]

Can't wait to get my hands on it

[graceful bluff]

How's the thumper

[ionic holly]

Havent tried it yet

[graceful bluff]

like how many rounds does it have

[ionic holly]

8+1

[graceful bluff]

not too bad

[cobalt patrol]

Exploding Crossbow? I dont know. It doesnt kill fabs. It has extreme drop off and a very low amount of ammo. 5 rounds in the mag, though it carries 12 fullly loaded. Reload speed is okay

main virtue seems to be it's got extreme aoe range (it is widly unsafe to fire up close)

very high damage

[tall stone]

Ah, so it's for bugs.

[ionic holly]

i assume the explosion just hard alerts anything?

[graceful bluff]

extreme aoe range and they're not gonna figure out where you shot from

[ionic holly]

Or not

[cobalt patrol]

Like a limb joint on a berserker blows the limb right off

[graceful bluff]

they'll get alerted but not know where you are

[cobalt patrol]

Yeah, they'll know an explosion landed but have very little idea where

the main issue is it's got pretty wacky bolt drop

like i feel like i'm firing nerf darts the way they start dropping

[ionic holly]

Plasma pun wacky or?

[cobalt patrol]

No, it's much more horizontal

[ionic holly]

Mm

[cobalt patrol]

but it's still very noticable drop

[rotund marten]

Oh, new warbond already? I'm falling behind, evidently

[rare nymph]

Explosives be heavy I guess

[graceful bluff]

Can confirm strapping shit on the front or arrows and bolts is not a good idea

[cobalt patrol]

New warbond every 2nd thursday of the month at reset is the plan

[short rune]

Strap ERA to arrows to counter ERA

[rare nymph]

It’ll be sure to affect the trout population aerodynamics

[unkempt river]

<@&1206091872716595200> anyone up for a second lobby?

[glass wing]

sure

[unkempt river]

4117-6793

[ionic holly]

Admittedly not like they're going away

[glad marsh]

Huh
I guess that one article was complete lies cause the heavy armor is just the regular 50% explosive resist

[ionic holly]

Hm? oh yeah no, it was just fortified

[glad marsh]

So for those who have it already, how's the adjucator compare to the liberator penetrator?

[quick plinth]

its basically just

a better lib pen

[glad marsh]

Well

That's rather nice then

[rare nymph]

Single fire, more damage, higher recoil, lower mag size

Nice for popping heads

[modest fiber]

<@&1206091872716595200> am once again requesting for dudes

[honest acorn]

I can join after I finish breakfast

Damn these level 4 modules are expensive

[modest fiber]

yea the once i can see at least, some i still need the 3rd

[burnt vapor]

Yeah they take a huge amount of rare samples

[merry cosmos]

How many times a week do you require a man?

[modest fiber]

yes

[rare nymph]

I had max rares, and could only get one level 4

[burnt vapor]

A better is question is how many times a mission

[modest fiber]

finally a reason to collect rares again

[burnt vapor]

To collect everything again you’ll need every kind of sample even if you were at cap

[modest fiber]

nice

[rotund marten]

Excellent

[graceful bluff]

yeah you can get like one upgrade even if you were capped

[modest fiber]

time for that grindset

[keen zinc]

#1204832579287519292 message

@quick plinth

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1204832579287519292/1227790897127755816/30b21abf-5cf0-4ee5-b2d4-9cc4b5160a4f.jpg?ex=6629b061&is=66173b61&hm=4cc825f6c90f1364b597c530e3462aa22353cace8c52cbdc05bc87316972be52&=&format=webp&width=507&height=676

[stoic lotus]

amko is this your dog

[merry cosmos]

It is

[stoic lotus]

very good dog

[merry cosmos]

Side note the new ship modules are kinda odd to me

[graceful bluff]

I'm just annoyed they didn't add the one that got accidentally added early

[merry cosmos]

I just think two of them being hyper focused on arc and fire is a little odd

[oblique storm]

tbf they're two things that like

Kinda Suck

[merry cosmos]

Fair enough but it's not what I was expecting

[dusky solar]

This looks like the most important one

[graceful bluff]

Keep believing that, I'll just be here stunlocking hulks to death :v

[merry cosmos]

Agreed

Real question is dose it effect the supply backpack?

[graceful bluff]

doubt it

would be broken if you got more than one resupply for your backpack per resupply pack

[dusky solar]

Very curious about this, because supply backpack refills directly from the resupp calldown

[graceful bluff]

it does specify weapons too

[merry cosmos]

Keep in mind the supply back pack literally uses the resupply boxes

[dusky solar]

Yeah

[graceful bluff]

oh I thought you meant getting 2 charges for your backpack per 1 resupply pack

[dusky solar]

Ah, nein.

[merry cosmos]

No getting two MG mags for one resupply charge

[dusky solar]

Just that a supply backpack will now fully reload your support weapon

[merry cosmos]

If so then that might be the only one I try to actually get

[dusky solar]

Hmg will see a large benefit from this

[graceful bluff]

if it actually works

[undone veldt]

Oh shit that seems insanely good

[ionic holly]

It's bugged currently so

don't go burning your supplies just yet

[merry cosmos]

At this point the only reason I'm getting the upgrades is cosmetics

[hot meadow]

So how are folks feeling about this warbond? I’m just starting my workday so I can’t log on for many hours yet

[merry cosmos]

It's alright

[graceful bluff]

They're niche weapons but very nice niche weapons

[merry cosmos]

On the same tier as steeled veterans

[undone veldt]

Ah

I mean

I couldn’t afford it anyway

[graceful bluff]

like running the bolt action along with a stalwart or arc thrower

basically reversing your loadout

[merry cosmos]

I like the grenade pistol

Might replace the dagger/senior with it

When I get it anyway

Automotons be like:

[glacial light]

How's the plasma scorchers ammo economy

[merry cosmos]

I know the ajunicators is kinda bad if you use it as an assault rifle

But I haven't used the scorcher

[modest fiber]

i mean they do got the world eaters

[merry cosmos]

Strogg/Khorn hybrid faction

[modest fiber]

yush

[granite rivet]

https://youtu.be/jj7d7kGhgYA?si=c8KAW-CUJoXq0z1v

[granite rivet]

Awww I love them, very good doggo

[ionic holly]

My favorite one yet, i've liked each weapon so far

still annoyed the heavy armour didn't get engineering kit because Please for the love of Fuck we didn't need a 4th flavor or fortified heavy armour

[tiny flume]

People seem disappointed with the Marksman Rifle, heavy armor and thermite

But the explosive rifle, grenade pistol, etc seems good

[cobalt patrol]

<@&1206091872716595200> can someone check for me - the instant deployment upgrade has reportedly changed to -100s of cooldown for it's effected strats

[keen zinc]

its a bug

[ionic holly]

People can be disappointed, i've been adoring the MR myself

will agree on the armour

seriously we didn't need a 4th fortified

[merry cosmos]

Same on my end

[cobalt patrol]

Marksman rifle is a skullcracker. 2 tap Devs, 1 shot troopers, gotta land the weak point hits, but the high pen gives you options. Several people here are mad in love with it already.

Thermite is the only thing that really disappoints me, as it's too high effort for to low payoff.

[cobalt patrol]

Source?

[merry cosmos]

My ass

[ionic holly]

I'm not even one of the folk bugged by the lack of new passives, i generally don't want new ones still we get atleast one armour set of each class with each passive

i'm just annoyed it's fortified again

[quartz cloak]

Wait, do we have a heavy with engineering kit?

[kindred lintel]

how is the thermite in action?

[quartz cloak]

It would be decent if Impact Grenades didn't exist

[oblique storm]

We do

Super Credit store

[quartz cloak]

Really?
I've not seen it

[merry cosmos]

Also we did not get a new super store rotation so far

[ionic holly]

Wait no shot, i swore we didn't

i've genuinely checked and asked several times

we have like 3 lights, 2 mediums, no heavy on engineering kits

[keen zinc]

???

[ionic holly]

yeah just double checked
we super don't

cause if we did i would've not continuously remarked on the lack of it

[oblique storm]

Not right now

but it's been on there

[hot meadow]

Hmm it is making me worry a bit that they’ll lock armor passive variety behind the individualized armor purchases

[merry cosmos]

We are loosing the blitz

[rare nymph]

I’m a bit miffed at the fortified heavy, but I like the aesthetics enough that I’ll pick it up anyhow

[ionic holly]

what armour set dude? cause everything i'm finding says no

[cobalt patrol]

Too fiddly for the payoff.

[ionic holly]

juggernaut was medium, trench engi is medium, titan is light, breaker is light, and demolitions specialist is light

[oblique storm]

Huh

I think I just thought Juggernaut was heavy

[ionic holly]

Sadly no, despite its descriptor and name

as it stands, we lack a heavy engineering armour

and it pains me so much

[rare nymph]

Incredibly petty complaint: any armor called titan should be heavy

[ionic holly]

The engineering kit naming convention has been hilariously misused

[cobalt patrol]

Long fuse, need to be precise, and need to then wait for it to do the dot effect into the explosion makes it pretty sad. Just not enough return

[ionic holly]

worst part is you have something like dreadnought that vaguely fits in a linear of titan-juggernaut-dreadnought

but just nothing

[rare nymph]

Dreadnought even has grenades all over it

[ionic holly]

best it can offer is servo limbs

which don't get me wrong, i like servo assisted limbs

[rare nymph]

Like, don’t get me wrong, I like servo

Same braincell

[ionic holly]

it's part of why i actually like groundbreaker now

but my brother in christ we got medic armour

give my slow ass the two extra grenades

[rare nymph]

Though in reality, all I want is superheavy armor

Let me have 200 armor and be practically immobile

[ionic holly]

More extra padded heavy armours? fair

[tall stone]

I too have the desire to be the chonkiest, most metal clad stim addict with giant gun

[ionic holly]

i mean hey there is medic heavy armour

[rare nymph]

Nah, I’m saying 200 armor without extra padding

I’ll take even more movement penalty

[kindred lintel]

250 armor, no diving

[rare nymph]

Now we’re talking

[merry cosmos]

cough

[ionic holly]

300 armour, you get the handcart from the ship module and thusly lose it's benefit

[ionic holly]

Oh yeah i know that one

not my cup of tea admittedly, like said i'm more of an engineer

[rare nymph]

A teammate has to wheel you around

[merry cosmos]

The one I'm absolutely looking forward to personally

[ionic holly]

i solve practical problems like how to stop that charger from tearing you a new behind

[merry cosmos]

As the spetsnaz look

[ionic holly]

mild personal gripe

i will never get why folk get so pissy about a stun near them

i get the slow can be dangerous but it's why i actually use my brain and yknow

catch all the enemies in it so they can make some breathing room with the movement they have

[merry cosmos]

Am I allowed to say I think I'm playing this game a little too much?

[rare nymph]

I catch myself with stuns all the time and have spent millions of super credits on R&D to come up with a solution:

Diving

[ionic holly]

Play it more

jokes aside take a break if you feel a need to hogan

[rare nymph]

For sure

[ionic holly]

my solution usually amounts to "killing whatever the fuck made me use a stun"

[merry cosmos]

Yeah I'm just both really sleep deprived atm and kinda fatigued from poring over 200+ hours into this game

[ionic holly]

even if i really have to range dance a 500kg on the waking up charger

[ionic holly]

yknow the worst part

i specifically corrected it to yohan and then it switched it back to hogan

[merry cosmos]

I have also internalized my responsibility for the galactic war into my head and feel driven to do my part

[rare nymph]

Por que no los dos?

[ionic holly]

counter argument: a tired and burnt out soldier is far less effective than fully awake and refreshed soldier

[hot meadow]

Gently, this part might actually be unhealthy

[ionic holly]

Aye, it
admittedly is