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#Helldivers 2: For Managed Democracy!
keen zinc
I cannot wait for people to get got by Outcasts
south temple
grey goo would be fuckin sick
heady halo
like you put pants and a jacket on a gelatenous cube
south temple
i'm imagining the ash sections from titanfall 2 kinda
heady halo
yeahhh
enemies include "model citizens" (obvious crash test like models), "dog 2's" the sequal to dogs and the solution to home defense, "self driving cars" and "goo cops"
flying enemy thats a big goo manta ray
south temple
enemies include "model citizens" (obvious crash test like models), "dog 2's" the...
boston dynamics AR-15 dogs
heady halo
helldiving through grey gooed white picket fences
south temple
yeaaaah
heady halo
the satire then being that the grey goo does actually follow human commands
but super earth is like "no we cant interact with this evil fascist monster"
so you "illegal broadcast towers" that are obviously hastily evacuated nice places to live that people were fine and super safe in
its like a bright reflection of the super earth suberbia, but super earth hates it
barren iron
grey goo would be really cool enemy
south temple
its like a bright reflection of the super earth suberbia, but super earth hates ...
just carbon copies of the suburbs from the intro
keen zinc
I'm super surprised AH hasn't made a cosmetic for HD1 owners, like from an economic angle. Seems like an obvious way to get another big boost of money lmao
heady halo
only thing is you gotta find a way to play gray goo thats not just shooting a puddle
keen zinc
Because loads of people would buy HD1 just for a cosmetic in 2
south temple
only thing is you gotta find a way to play gray goo thats not just shooting a pu...
prey 2017 typhon type beat ez
barren iron
^
keen zinc
Back pocket maybe
heady halo
ive just kinda been assuming they dont want to do that because they could also really easily just say "the next warbond is all cosmetic and $10"
and people would buy it
nah amkos asked us to not talk about human enemies
honest acorn
I'm super surprised AH hasn't made a cosmetic for HD1 owners, like from an econo...
Hazops armor I guess
heavy portal
Oh ok
keen zinc
I really dislike the idea
heavy portal
Discussion moved pretty fast sorry
south temple
goodnight o7
keen zinc
I don't want to shoot a man shaped man in the head
heady halo
oh you played the first one right
keen zinc
Yeah
heady halo
werent the cyborgs enemies you could fight in that one
the cyborgs are literally human right?
keen zinc
Cyborgs were fucked up and deformed with cybernetics
heady halo
but, thats still a human?
heavy portal
How about some biotic blob monsters for fourth faction
Or is that too similar to insects
keen zinc
Yeah, but they weren't just Normal Guys With Guns Like You
south temple
but, thats still a human?
i think it's different bc of the level of cybernetic augmentations involved
heady halo
How about some biotic blob monsters for fourth faction
i was thinking that, like resident evil style
heady halo
i think it's different bc of the level of cybernetic augmentations involved
isnt the entire point of the satire that it isnt different, thats just what the ministry of truth says
like the whole
brain bug thing
keen zinc
I mean they are very visually inhuman
south temple
isnt the entire point of the satire that it isnt different, thats just what the ...
sorry what i meant was that it's different from shooting people
heady halo
in starship troopers
no like, yeah, you are shooting people, they are people, they just look different
heavy portal
Like soft fleshy horrible abomination enemies rather than chitin and claws
south temple
I mean they are very visually inhuman
yeah exactly there's a certain threshold of robotic that separates them from the same headspace
keen zinc
Yeah
heavy portal
Shooting bile and tentacles
keen zinc
I don't want to shoot normal human soldier guy , rebel or otherwise
candid finch
Maybe some sort of plants...
heady halo
thats like the whole point, like the psychically reading the brain bug in starship troopers and knowing its afraid, was a confirmation its a person, and the campaign of earth in that movie was evily shooting people
heavy portal
Plantoids
south temple
if they're 90% robot it's just shooting robots, if they're 100% meat you're doing murder on a person just like you
honest acorn
HD1 cyborgs were very strogg looking
south temple
Maybe some sort of plants...
break out the napalm it's time to GAME
heavy portal
Maybe flamethrowers will become useful but what would they be like
honest acorn
south temple
thats like the whole point, like the psychically reading the brain bug in starsh...
idk if i'd say it counts as confirmation of personhood, more like confirmation of human-level intellect
heady halo
idk if i'd say it counts as confirmation of personhood, more like confirmation o...
thats basically what personhood means
sapience and sentience
south temple
but the primary point is that bugs don't look like dudes, and amko's point as far as i'm aware is about the visual aspect of shooting a flesh and blood guy in the face
keen zinc
I don't want a faction that is Normal Humans Like You
I don't want to shoot different colored SEAF troopers
south temple
i'm curious, is it a gameplay/fun thing or a morality thing? either is valid tbh
hot meadow
Stalwart, Rover, EATs, Railcannon or Cluster, Breaker Incendiary or Dominator. Honestly EATs are usually enough.
heavy portal
Ooh how about fungoids
hot meadow
The trick IMO is at least two ppl should be capable of killing chargers and up.
heavy portal
Looking like those horrible halo flood
hot meadow
i'm curious, is it a gameplay/fun thing or a morality thing? either is valid tbh
For me it’s both!
heady halo
im also partly confused because my entire thing earlier was that they would be like a biological version of what i didnt know that the automatons in HD1 actually were-people that look just enough not like people that super earth can lie to you and make you feel better about shooting normal humans
south temple
For me it’s both!
me too tbh, kinda crosses a gulf into milsim-adjacent fun which is a very different vibe
heady halo
because looking att he wiki now, automatons are litereally just, humans
i thought they always looked all robot and inhuman
instead of having meat human parts
anyway i really do need to sleep
keen zinc
No the cyborgs were human
hot meadow
I want something weirder aesthetically and then also like I think I would find the satire less satirical if I were killing humans.
heady halo
and dont want to start an argument
south temple
they're identifiably robotic enough that it's different in weird vibe way idk
hot meadow
they're identifiably robotic enough that it's different in weird vibe way idk
Yes this
I need the layer to play and not feel really bad about it
keen zinc
Yeah
south temple
I want something weirder aesthetically and then also like I think I would find t...
yeah fr if i want to shoot rebel dudes i've got arma for that
heady halo
honest acorn
It’s sort of a worldbuilding thing across HD1
heady halo
thats just a dude
south temple
but that requires a degree of committment and gravitas i don't want to expend on helldivers lmao
heady halo
i can see why they didnt do that in this one
honest acorn
The bugs and (most) of the illuminate are also just dudes
keen zinc
Yeah I get that
heady halo
that WOULD be kinda more horrifiying to shoot in the head in non iso 3rd person
honest acorn
It’s sort of obscure text in 1 but all the bugs are actually pretty smart iirc
south temple
that WOULD be kinda more horrifiying to shoot in the head in non iso 3rd person
oh 100%
keen zinc
I think that's precisely why they made the Automatons for the sequel
south temple
i feel like to me the difference between this and a person is that the cyborgs are zombie-like in aesthetic in a way that lets you detach the fact that they're dudes yk?
keen zinc
So as not to have people having to shoot people up close and viscerally
keen zinc
Cyborgs in third person like HD2 would feel weird
heady halo
i feel like to me the difference between this and a person is that the cyborgs a...
honestly i really dont
south temple
gets less funny when you're doing more "realistic" shit in a way ig
heady halo
i have the same thing with human zombies-thats literally just a person with a magic disease
hot meadow
I personally - and this NOT shade to others in a different boat - just wouldn’t be able to find a too-human faction humorous
keen zinc
Yeah the idea of a faction that is Humane Like You who's whole shtick is being normal
south temple
honestly i really dont
maybe it's a me thing then, but i just think that bc they're more deadlike visually it doesn't come across the same
south temple
Yeah the idea of a faction that is Humane Like You who's whole shtick is being n...
it's less funny when you're doing fascism on Normal Dudes
heady halo
also for a biotech human faction i was thinking less "different coloured seaf trooper" and more
with the lore being its just humans in suits
keen zinc
Wasn't talking about that tho
hot meadow
Like in Destiny the more time we spent getting to know the Eliskni the more uncomfortable I felt shooting them
keen zinc
I was specifically talking about people's pitch for rebels/evenworsethansuperearth normal human guy faction
hot meadow
Legit actually contributed to me stopping playing that game, which I’m sure was the opposite of the intended outcome
supple siren
Didn't some people find like a 'parasitized' Charger body or was that a weird hype hoax
honest acorn
I am glad these didn’t make it
heady halo
my pitch would be that these were humans who developed alternate tech like the cyborgs
compared a bit to the genestealer cults form 40k, except more advanced, basing tech of termanid stuff
not that you would be fighting civilians with guns and technicals or anything
hot meadow
also for a biotech human faction i was thinking less "different coloured seaf tr...
AIAT
south temple
Like in Destiny the more time we spent getting to know the Eliskni the more unco...
it's different when you're killing dudes with a clearly defined culture that aren't all evil which kinda ends up being at odds with destiny's gameplay
heady halo
like the cyborgs/automatons it turns out already are this
hot meadow
(Destiny joke - they look like Hive to me)
candid finch
I mean literally every enemy in this game so far are better than super earth
heady halo
yeah
honest acorn
(Destiny joke - they look like Hive to me)
Oh thank you
heady halo
Didn't some people find like a 'parasitized' Charger body or was that a weird hy...
iirc its uncomfirmed what it was but also just looked like earth barnacles and was on a water planet
so could be just, an alternate appearance effect
but could be more
hot meadow
Ya, it’s kind of the Hive word for “Amen”
heady halo
god i was going to bed, sorry
hot meadow
lol, sleep well
honest acorn
There have been some surprise enemy types like that
Or at least rare variants like Behemoths
strange vine
i think the best way to go "human faction" is go all out with the silliness and campiness of it
like
south temple
god i was going to bed, sorry
thus is the state of the pilot net
once you're in you can't get out
part of the crew part of the ship n allat
strange vine
the best proposal ive seen is basically a bunch of clones (that super earth made) who rebelled and are practicing unmanaged democracy
who have a punk rock/mad max aesthetic
keen zinc
Still no
strange vine
and super earth's entire attitude to them being all pearl clutching moral panic
keen zinc
This game is brutal and you turn enemies into chunks and craters
keen zinc
Yeah
south temple
given the amount of high-caliber anti-armor the results would not be pleasant against meatbag dudes
keen zinc
I'd rather not turn a platoon of normal human dudes into manghetti
south temple
the autocannon becomes much more gruesome once the targets aren't super tough
supple siren
Also; it's more fun to fight giant robots and big weird alien designs
pastel igloo
Autocannon vs. human infantry would surely make for a great chunky salsa recipe
keen zinc
This isn't spec ops the line
pastel igloo
yeah
keen zinc
Not here for that experience
south temple
This isn't spec ops the line
yeah 100% that's what squad and other games r for
keen zinc
Ye
pastel igloo
not here for the chunky salsa shit
strange vine
okay im pretty sure the 500kg bomb angle goes in the direction you throw it
eagle comes from behind you
thats why theres that one video of the bomb landing on the cliff the diver was on
pastel igloo
Or friends
based
glacial light
I think a nonhuman faction where it's totally our fault is a good one. Maybe living plant parasites? Like a zombie/fungus infestation but completely nature themed
south temple
not here for the chunky salsa shit
except for glorious glorious e-710 via cluster munition
glacial light
Takes over automatons somehow and bugs
pastel igloo
okay im pretty sure the 500kg bomb angle goes in the direction you throw it
eagl...
this is some incredible cartoonish shit
keen zinc
Plants or Rockmen are good
strange vine
i def want more than the original 3 factions eventually
supple siren
"Basically The Flood' would probably work fine
pastel igloo
lets become besieged on all fronts
strange vine
and its all super earth's fault
pastel igloo
give me a target rich envirronment to point my big fucking gun at
south temple
Plants or Rockmen are good
again i present this for your consideration
south temple
give me a target rich envirronment to point my big fucking gun at
aiming is undemocratic we hipfire up in this bitch 🔥🔥🔥
honest acorn
Given the amount the game sold there’s probably going to be another faction or something eventually
pastel igloo
aiming is undemocratic we hipfire up in this bitch 🔥🔥🔥
just mag dump
south temple
if enough of the air is replaced with lead you'll hit them eventually
strange vine
unlike other live service games AH actually planned out the live service part
which is fantastic
also them being receptive to shit the players have done
like the whole malevelon creek thing
honest acorn
Yeah it’s usually well executed
south temple
unlike other live service games AH actually planned out the live service part
the pace at which warbonds are rolling is wild i did not expect it to be so fast
strange vine
like its great how you can actually make an organic story about the community line so far
south temple
i'm used to being drip-fed cool shit
but i've hardly had time to do the 2 other warbonds
burnt vapor
Yeah them actually having a plan and content lined up and scheduled before they released the game is great
pastel igloo
they are interacting with the actual stuff the playerbase is doing which feels really good for the players
cause they get to be part of the story
south temple
Yeah them actually having a plan and content lined up and scheduled before they ...
explains why so much shit is leaking too
burnt vapor
Yeah other games don't get as many leaks because they don't have shit to leak
good problem to have
south temple
they are interacting with the actual stuff the playerbase is doing which feels r...
no straight up it's so nice being able to follow shit that's going down as the playerbase wins or loses
strange vine
if this was PC only like warframe theyd be able to drop shit w/o notice
wait
ignore that lol
for some reason i forgot warframe had console
south temple
Yeah other games don't get as many leaks because they don't have shit to leak
added bonus, i get to see random twitter screenshots and get hyped for the future drip
pastel igloo
no straight up it's so nice being able to follow shit that's going down as the p...
they are managing the community stuff really well
glacial light
Do they have a history timeline in game?
I wonder how well the emergent story will hold up in like a 1 year to new players or if it's very modular where you don't need to know what happened last month to understand the current major order's
south temple
they are managing the community stuff really well
the fact that my only gripe is that a few messages are discord only is a very good thing
pastel igloo
mhm
south temple
that and the lack of badass swords (rapier i beg)
alpine seal
I wonder how well the emergent story will hold up in like a 1 year to new player...
endless war is endless war i feel
heavy portal
humanity will fight forever
south temple
the only thing new recruits need to know is how to move and dive
heavy portal
and how to inject themselves with drugs
alpine seal
the average helldiver has no idea what a supply line is, they just drop onto the nearest highlighted planet. i don't imagine that needs changing
heavy portal
supply line
more like unnecessary line
real helldivers source their weapons on the field
south temple
true and real your only supply is your comrade's corpse
(this also applies for emergency rations)
copper crest
that and the lack of badass swords (rapier i beg)
I feel like thematically it should be a saber, rapiers are for dueling
stoic lotus
definitely an officer's sabre
a rapier is not the weapon for hacking away at bugs nor is it an appropriate battlefield weapon
craggy lagoon
No thanks but maybe a cannon that shoots rapiers
gusty heron
The tricky part of melee weapons is definitely going to be balancing the fact that you are just Some Person™️ wielding a piece of sharpened metal/plasma against robots/unusually large bugs with the gameplay interest of making it actually fun to use. I don't know if they'll actually go in on any melee weapons, but a saber or something might be neat, and I guess we'll see how it goes.
pastel igloo
Bayonets good
glacial light
Bayonets and sabers were in HD2 so I believe
gusty heron
Oh also, has anyone else seen this kind of mech before? I found it in the field today.
glacial light
Give me the 1 handed saber for my ballistic shield and be a knightly terror to bots
gusty heron
Oh also, has anyone else seen this kind of mech before? I found it in the field ...
The cockpit looks different than the standard, but I haven't seen too many of those and may be the fool.
oblique storm
pastel igloo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJLgAX85CbM
"on every planet, our bombs bringing hope" is such a fun line
oblique storm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJLgAX85CbM
oblique storm
I feel like that's gotta be intentional
pastel igloo
probably
the chorus is extremely remenicent of a Sabaton song i can't quite place atm
honest acorn
Oh also, has anyone else seen this kind of mech before? I found it in the field ...
That’s a Lumberer from 1 but with a missile pod instead of a flamer
Same cannon and elongated body
gusty heron
Ooh, I see it! Though it looked like there's a hole in the middle, like there were those two wedges and then a recessed portion. It's somewhat visible in the screencapture.
I look forward to seeing them in the field at some point.
honest acorn
I think that’s a missing armor piece in the wrecked one or a smaller redesign
gusty heron
I'm not 100% sure, but I think I see a cockpit there, with some padding where someone would stand(?)
I wish I'd gotten a better image, but this was 30 minutes into a solo kill-the-charger mission where one charger didn't spawn for the longest time (the objective said "Kill Chargers: 0/0") and I was rushing terribly. I did find the charger eventually, at least.
honest acorn
That looks accurate - I just think there’s a door missing in front of the pilot cause it’s a wreck
gusty heron
Yeah, some kind of emergency-release thing
Mech upgrade that's literally just an escape hatch in case of critical damage lmao
strange vine
ship upgrade where you get an ejection feature but it ejects you from the front into where all the enemies are shooting you
gusty heron
You understand my vision completely
glacial light
Mech upgrade that ejects you with explosive force fast enough you deal the same damage as a hellpod but you're not immune to physics damage
I think something that'd be sick is like hellpod upgrades, like stun AOE on landing, or cluster AOE, fire, shield bubble, or slow aoe or extra hellpod damage
heady halo
ejection that goes straight up and can kill you with fall damage if you are in a bad spot
heavy portal
how long has super earth been fighting these wars again?
is super earth the same super earth it always has been or have multiple planets been super earth
honest acorn
It's always been one aiui
The "war lost" endings are not canon for HD2
I don't know how long Galactic War 1 was but its been about 100 years since it concluded
stone bridge
The "war lost" endings are not canon for HD2
Are they?
stone bridge
Ah lmao, yeah that's fair
candid finch
Most traumatised blorbo
oblique storm
Have they ever said they aren't canon?
honest acorn
I haven't seen it but there's also been no mention of it
And Super Earth has defeated all of the HD1 enemies
It's not impossible especially since Super Earth Historiography is probably pretty managed
honest acorn
But yeah with the bugs farmed, cyborgs put into liberty camps, and the Illuminate disarmed and gone it looks like Super Earth won galactic war 1
oblique storm
I haven't seen it but there's also been no mention of it
would they ever mention that they lost tho
honest acorn
The strongest indication we have that they didn't is that we have an official HD2 Super Earth map and it has earth's continents
cobalt patrol
IIRC, there's been about a 100 years of "peace" between HD1 and hd2.
honest acorn
But they wouldn't mention it much
cobalt patrol
the terminid breakout happens, triggers the start, the automatom front breaks out at about the same time
oblique storm
The strongest indication we have that they didn't is that we have an official HD...
they had the same continents after super earth was blown up every time in HD1 tbf
I always just assumed they'd literally chisel the planet to look like Earth
cobalt patrol
<@&1206091872716595200> anyone interested in a couple of bug 7s?
honest acorn
they had the same continents after super earth was blown up every time in HD1 tb...
I don't think its impossible but I do think its sort of
It's much more complicated for it to be a new Super Earth imo
oblique storm
I also think it's MUCH funnier is the thing
dusk agate
oblique storm
Historical photo
honest acorn
I also think it's MUCH funnier is the thing
It is funny for sure
oblique storm
clearly doctored
honest acorn
I managed to be one of the last automaton fighters by not playing for a while on an automaton planet with an incomplete op
hot meadow
ok so. i will not be a jerk about this and will not whine.
dusk agate
THATS NOT WHAT IT IS
honest acorn
And not playing like all weekend
hot meadow
but. I don't know who thought hellmire was like, fun
dusk agate
THEY ARE ON THE WRONG FRONT
honest acorn
but. I don't know who thought hellmire was like, fun
I got trapped against a cliff by 3 fire tornadoes while being solo alive
hot meadow
anyway, complaining over. hnnngh hnnghn hnngh
honest acorn
10/10 would dive again
I legit had like 10 sq ft I could safely walk in
And 0 reinforcements
oblique storm
Clearly we have some delayed video feeds from the automaton front
honest acorn
Extremely Memorable Helldiving
wind arrow
i just witnessed a diver surviving traitor elimination artillery for like minutes on end
oblique storm
they're all dead forever so nothing can happen
cobalt patrol
Hellmire gets a lot more fun if you Light armor, Stamina upgrades, and muscle nehacnement
hot meadow
It is definitely memorable but like... idk.
not my cup of tea
legit tho I'm actually really glad others like it
stone bridge
Don't worry everyone the automatons are all gone forever
honest acorn
I've been running a lot of light arc resist
stone bridge
:)
cobalt patrol
Anyway, grabbing my meds then i'll try pinging again
tall stone
Hellmire gets a lot more fun if you Light armor, Stamina upgrades, and muscle ne...
Hellmire extractions get wild
honest acorn
I don't mind hellmire so much my least favorite planets are M. Creek ones and the bloodmoss planets at dawn or dusk
honest acorn
I just don't like the extreme lighting on M. Creek
hot meadow
For some reason, that specific hazard maakes me real stressed loool
honest acorn
And you can't see SHIT attacking into the sun on place like Ubanea
Fire nados are the more aggressive hazard for sure
I think ion storms are sometimes more annoying but they don't limit freedom of movement anywhere near as much
tall stone
But there's something inherently satisfying about bugs dying to tornados
oblique storm
I like the moon
honest acorn
same I love the moon templates
hot meadow
I think what I dislike is sometimes I feel like really trapped with the tornados
honest acorn
I like how wide the sight lines are and the terrain feels cool and sci fi
hot meadow
so it feels like there isn't a solve
cobalt patrol
<@&1206091872716595200> We need more men. To helldive. Into hellmire.
honest acorn
The good news is that vs bugs at least there's very little which can get to you alive when you're trapped by fire
smash cut to a burning half alive charger which can get to you while trapped
hot meadow
*smash cut to a burning half alive charger which can get to you while trapped*
this last run it was a bile titan on ifre
cobalt patrol
THATS NOT WHAT IT IS
You wanna explain all this btw, Rattle?
dusk agate
You wanna explain all this btw, Rattle?
They where on Hellmire
There where no survivors
heavy portal
Has anyone ever actually been to super earth in hd2
honest acorn
It's pretty easy to be in orbit of it but no
None of the crew except maybe the democracy officer has
They talk about wanting to see it in some of the conversation lines
mortal wing
So many a time fire tornados just completely blocked extraction for me
unkempt river
<@&1206091872716595200> Super Earth calls on you to crush bugs!
mortal wing
That does not make for a happy Sharkl
glad marsh
<@&1206091872716595200> Super Earth calls on you to *crush* bugs!
I shall join in a minute
cobalt patrol
anyway @unkempt river going afk to walk a pupper, afterwards i can
dusk agate
They are very very on hellmire
honest acorn
maybe they want bug juice for ftl
candid finch
sneaky bots
shy prairie
@cobalt patrol you can take my slot when you get back
glad marsh
major order complete!
honest acorn
🥳
stone bridge
yay :)
meager saffron
no schottkey
alpine seal
back to fori prime...
one of the planets of all time. fori prime at night has the worst visibility of any planet i've ever been to, which makes me miss the automatons' glowy bits
stone bridge
Catalog expansion: carpet bomb
mortal wing
major order complete!
Is there a new one?
oblique hazel
not yet no
honest acorn
Usually it takes a little while for a new one
alpine seal
maybe one day some of the bugs will evolve bioluminescence like some of the specimens on this other planet hoxxes
mortal wing
don't shriekers already?
candid finch
The Catalogue Expansion thing doesn't work for anything at the moment
alpine seal
haven't seen them at night but i wouldn't be surprised. the nests and spore spewers definitely glow already though
oblique hazel
figured it wouldn't, it doesn't even have a cost
candid finch
either a bug or something that slipped through the cracks
mortal wing
haven't seen them at night but i wouldn't be surprised. the nests and spore spew...
might just be very orange, not sure actually
dusk agate
honest acorn
tf is wrong with your video encoder?
stiff pine
live automaton feed
honest acorn
I knew I should have added a winking emoji or something
cobalt patrol
IT IS TOO LATE
dusk agate
There we go
Just some minor tweaks to the footage, and popped it on youtuibe so that it could get uploaded to hte heldivers server
hot meadow
this is a meme right
candid finch
Well this poor motherfucker is dead
oblique hazel
@cobalt patrol spot open now if you want to hop in
cobalt patrol
<@169349146233405441> spot open now if you want to hop in
Not currently
unkempt river
t-tall 
dusk agate
this is a meme right
Nope, this is actual footage from Hellmire, it happened to us about 30 mins before Liberation was completed
Never seen that many bots on a level 3 before when they where in their own territory
Also the dunes of hellmire and its generalized lack of cover did uh... did not do us any favors
runic cairn
<@&1206091872716595200> i need that e 710
graceful bluff
fuck, didn't get the daily in time
modest fiber
https://www.reddit.com/r/Helldivers/s/3yDQR4dggc
or multiple fronts for factions to insert in, maybe, remains to be seen
graceful bluff
fixed a bunch of crashes, nice
now if only I'd get the medals from the last two major orders :v
huh oh shit, if you're in mission when a daily mission rolls over you can still complete it
junior badge
You can also finish the new personal order without ever seeing it, if it rolls over while you're in-mission xD
Oh, not just bugfixes, but more accurate damage stats for explosive weapons in-game.
And the "known issues" now include a whole bunch of stuff more that needs fixing - which is good in that it means they're working on it.
quick plinth
me getting zero medals from MOs and POs because I maxed out medals ages ago
graceful bluff
I just buy random stuff from the warbonds when I get close to maxing
quick plinth
I just buy random stuff from the warbonds when I get close to maxing
Nalesh my friend, I have unlocked everything
graceful bluff
skill issue
dusk agate
absolute unit patriot
junior badge
Remind me what the cap is - I don't wanna miss out on medals, but I'm trying to save for the new warbond.
pastel igloo
Did we take Hellmire on time?
junior badge
(and I've bought everything I want. There's a few more things left, but not many.)
burnt vapor
Remind me what the cap is - I don't wanna miss out on medals, but I'm trying to ...
250
burnt vapor
Did we take Hellmire on time?
I think so
pastel igloo
Lovely
pastel igloo
yes
stone bridge
thats right
pastel igloo
ooh, Update
did i miss anything since yesterday?
i saw someone earlier in the thread say something about Automatons on Hellmire?
unlocked the Quasar finally
oh shit
i think i might still have access to the farming mission i found on Hellmire
i do
that's really convenient
quick plinth
seems like fish to me
hellmire doesn't have sanddunes
like they showed in the vid
pastel igloo
fair
just woke up and saw something interesting so i mentioned it
i'm still on Hellmire farming
dusk agate
i saw someone earlier in the thread say something about Automatons on Hellmire?
It was me, and I can post some clearer footage later. It dropped for us about an hour and a half before Hellmire was liberated. I think it was very rare tho
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsrcSHaLlSk
Also, it would make sense of why we have been seeing automaton and bug corpses occassionally drop on one another's planets.
pastel igloo
mhm
dusk agate
That said, if a bot comeback happens in bug space, that means the quadrants aren't necessarily limited to single factions, which is a wild concept to consider
pastel igloo
that would be fascinating
going to grab the second warbond today
prolly grab some armor stuff in the store
unkempt river
could
quick plinth
OH BOY
unkempt river
screenshot?
pastel igloo
wait what
quick plinth
LETS HAVE A LOOKSEEE
pastel igloo
screeni
unkempt river
in game
merry cosmos
ITS BEGINNING
pastel igloo
i just hopped into a mission
quick plinth
im loading uop the game now
lethal dagger
I'm gone for three weeks what's happening
merry cosmos
THE RECLAMATION AS BEGUN
pastel igloo
what the fuck is happening
quick plinth
Ill show once im in
merry cosmos
THE BOTS ARE BACK <@&1206091872716595200>
stone bridge
Relax on the pings, yohan
merry cosmos
I REPEAT
north fiber
Screen shot please
pastel igloo
oh fuck they are going for Cyberstan ain't they?
merry cosmos
THE BOTS ARE BACK
quick plinth
CYBERSTAN
trail nymph
cobalt patrol
Chill, dude.
stone bridge
I get the excitement but please chill, folks
stone bridge
From the little intro sequence:
quick plinth
they took cyberstan
pastel igloo
From the little intro sequence:
intro sequence?
stone bridge
It does a little zoom in and shows the ships arriving from outside the map
pastel igloo
oh fuck
north fiber
stone bridge
They've already taken all of Valdis, we need to defend Lacaille and Hydra
pastel igloo
fucking hell
pastel igloo
oh fuck
hexed steeple
yayyyy
hexed steeple
my greatest enemy, my greatest friend
pastel igloo
yeah lmao
merry cosmos
In minutes
hexed steeple
the automaton
pastel igloo
FINALLY, A WORTHY OPPONENT, OUR BATTLE WILL BE LEGENDARY
barren iron
merry cosmos
They've been overdosed on meth
unreal merlin
unreal merlin
I called it weeks ago that their goal was Cyberstan and they would have a huge armada.
cobalt patrol
I appreciate the libcon 1
daring monolith
I think we all saw it coming. At least somewhat
tiny flume
Does cyberstan have lore or do we just know it has a roboty name
barren iron
lmfao Libcon 1
tiny flume
Yeah like, the bots where gonna come back quickly
idle hollow
it's the cyborg's homeworld
lethal dagger
CYBERSTAN
CAN'T KEEP HER DOWN.
idle hollow
and the cyborgs made the automatons
tiny flume
Makes sense then
pastel igloo
Cyberstan is the Cyborg homeworld
barren iron
Cyberstan is the Cyborg homeworld from the first game and the automatons are trying to liberate them
tiny flume
Ye
barren iron
cyborgs joining the automaton ranks would be really interesting
having fleshy cyborgs in with the automatons? thats cool
tiny flume
Just in time with those new bot units to
barren iron
really kind of sad we didn't get to fight on cyberstand
perhaps it'll have a unique tileset?
stone bridge
really kind of sad we didn't get to fight on cyberstand
I mean, we're in phase 1 of the invasion matey
tiny flume
We'll get there
barren iron
yeah no I know
pastel igloo
how do defense missions work anyhow, do we need to keep them over a certain percentage of liberation?
stone bridge
Chort Bay has Acid Storms
hexed steeple
what do they do
rare nymph
It just says reduce visibility
hexed steeple
oh that’s manageable
merry cosmos
Chort Bay has Acid Storms
Who looks at these planets and decides to make farms out of them
trail nymph
how do defense missions work anyhow, do we need to keep them over a certain perc...
hold a higher percentage of the planet at the end of the timer
rare nymph
Also my first time seeing this mission
barren iron
its new
junior badge
Oooooo
pastel igloo
tiny flume
My guess is, we'll defend the hardest one
hexed steeple
the fight ended and they just restarted it for no reason? why do they hate peace and love
junior badge
Right, the peace negotiations were almost complete
dusk agate
tHREE WHOLE DAYS
stone bridge
super earth: "as we foresaw all along. da automatons are back babey."
also super earth:
keen zinc
THE RECLAMATION
pastel igloo
they are upon us
keen zinc
CYBERSTAN
CAN'T KEEP HER DOWN
pastel igloo
we must meet them with steel and liberty
dusk agate
My exciting footage from yesterday kinda feels less exciting, but this is SO funny
hollow plover
No respect for the peace-keeping actions our honorable helldivers have taken for free liberty
dusk agate
https://tenor.com/en-GB/view/helldivers-baby-steal-kidnap-gif-119437906984654950...
this is the strangest embed I have ever witnessed
lunar jetty
shit son it is on
pastel igloo
that gif is so fucking funny
hexed steeple
it's walking hte baby for that person who seems to be too tired to stand :D what a helpful robot
pastel igloo
dusk agate
it's walking hte baby for that person who seems to be too tired to stand :D what...
Ok, hear me out, what if cannonnically that is what happenning in that footage
pastel igloo
i am at least glad for one thing
dusk agate
I would, in fact, beleive it
pastel igloo
i get to KILL more AUTOMATONS
stoic lotus
anyone up for some tuesday afternoon heck dive
pastel igloo
my FAVOURITE helldiving activity
dusk agate
Everyday we fight Automatons I feel more and more
stone bridge
it's walking hte baby for that person who seems to be too tired to stand :D what...
proof peaceful integration of automatons is possible (i am killed in the next 7.843 seconds by traitor-seeking airburst rounds fired from my super destroyer)
dusk agate
pastel igloo
https://tenor.com/view/mitchell-and-webb-are-we-the-baddies-goodies-baddies-worl...
no
you're a HELLDIVER
https://tenor.com/view/democracy-helldivers-intensifies-freedom-helldivers-2-gif-1202998951342753696
for PEACE and LIBERTY
quick plinth
new defence mission type is great
I much prefer it to the retrive essential personnel or whatever that one is called
pastel igloo
keept getting deducted credits during those
dusk agate
keept getting deducted credits during those
Proof that you need to use heavier bombardments
hollow plover
Freya the Personnel Obliterator
pastel igloo
with this stratagem i summon large quantities of dead bodies
pastel igloo
Freya the Personnel Obliterator
democracy is indiscriminant against the enemies of Super Earth
keen zinc
I much prefer it to the retrive essential personnel or whatever that one is call...
I wonder if it is just outright replacing the old one
If so huge W from the devs
Not being afraid to scrap a mission that players don't enjoy
cobalt patrol
It's not
naive dragon
I heard bots 👀
keen zinc
On the bright side
pastel igloo
i'm still on Hellmire farming SC but i'm going to hop on the Automaton front soon-ish
keen zinc
The pause on procreation applications has been lifted
rare nymph
Approval is just 180 days away
pastel igloo
rare nymph
No time at all, really
pastel igloo
they came in fucking quick
keen zinc
Yeah they brought the whole shazam
oak crow
goddamn
oak crow
and just last night i was wanting to go back to fighting bots
rare nymph
It’s too bad no one could have foreseen this 
oak crow
guess my wish got granted
pastel igloo
i wonder if they will try to free the Cyborgs from their righteos re-education
unreal merlin
I called it MONTHS AGO.
keen zinc
Bots are about to get loads of upgrades from their parents
pastel igloo
and if we might see the Cyborgs return to their old anti-freedom ways
that would be extremely undemocratic of them
keen zinc
I know they're all socialist monsters to be destroyed, but imagine how happy they must be reuniting
Big metal crush claw arms hugging
Cyborgs telling them they are wonderful and did a great job
How proud they are
oak crow
and just last night i was wanting to go back to fighting bots
i just hope we get more unique maps and whatnot
god if they actually come out with a trench world that the automatons are defending, i may just spend my whole weekend playing
pastel igloo
would love some urban environments
keen zinc
In Cyberstan there is a family reunion of epic proportions
tall nova
god if they actually come out with a trench world that the automatons are defend...
We've had Robot Vietnam, time for Robot Verdun
hollow plover
Imma call that Cyberstan is going to be the first urban tileset
pastel igloo
it seems likely
modest fiber
welp, they sure brought it a fleet this time
pastel igloo
yup
naive dragon
I just dropped into a D7. It's
pastel igloo
ten times the size of the force deployed by them during Operation Swift Disassembly
naive dragon
Beautiful ;w;
rare nymph
I liked the little animation of ships sweeping in from the border
keen zinc
Somewhere there is a cyborg hugging a devastator and telling them how proud they are
pastel igloo
I liked the little animation of ships sweeping in from the border
that was cool
keen zinc
It is the best day of the Devastators life
pastel igloo
oak crow
We've had Robot Vietnam, time for Robot Verdun
i wish
im just saying it would fit with the new warbond
got a gas mask wearing medium armor, a devastator-themed juggernaut and a grenadier, plus a stick grenade
oak crow
i just want my flat, winding trench filled map with massive craters.
keen zinc
We gotta plant the flag of super earth on the Robotstag
oak crow
Not Verdun
i mean, ideally we'd get the Argonne
vestal trail
keept getting deducted credits during those
Just saying this for clarity in the event, that mission type can never make you go negative, it'll just potentially hit 0 on the payout
pastel igloo
Just saying this for clarity in the event, that mission type can never make you ...
i mean
i'll be impressed if you hit 0 payout
genuinely incredibly impressed
vestal trail
i'll be impressed if you hit 0 payout
Oh, for sure deffo, but figured I'd say it regardless for anyone who didn't know
oak crow
i mean, ideally we'd get the Argonne
would love for a planet that, according to Super Earth records, is a lush, beautiful garden/forest world, that has been grinded into muddy wasteland
bonus points if it's like that because WE bombed it once the Automatons took it
tall nova
I had a friend who didnt realize killing civilians deducted credits, so as soon as we reached the number for the objective he just started gunning people down
pastel igloo
absolutely democratic
hollow plover
would love for a planet that, according to Super Earth records, is a lush, beaut...
That's MalCreek
pastel igloo
dusk agate
That's MalCreek
You are right and you should say it
dusk agate
WHOA
pastel igloo
the Automatons came back in force
tall nova
Malevalon Creek is still my favorite planet to fight on. Idk why, but fights in the creek are much more intense
oak crow
That's MalCreek
it would be cool if they did that imo, but the change that i would desire (absolutely riddled with craters, trenchs covering the map, machine gun nests dotting every valley and hill) would be significant enough that i think current MalCreek enjoyers would hate it.
pastel igloo
10x the force that they deployed during Operation Swift Disassembly
oak crow
it would be cool if they did that imo, but the change that i would desire (absol...
with that said, i think turning worlds into trench worlds could be cool. maybe as like a "if this planet is disputed territory for 9 days" kinda deal?
cobalt patrol
New defence mission is very fun
blissful sparrow
eventually all maps turn into moon crater maps
the crabs of maps
pastel igloo
lmao
quick crown
New defence mission is very fun
What does it have you do?
quick plinth
defend an entrenched position
naive dragon
It's so good ;w;
quick plinth
compared to evacuate essential personnel its basically the best defensive mission
tall nova
with that said, i think turning worlds into trench worlds could be cool. maybe a...
Honestly I dont think they should do that. I like their map design, I dont think they should change it too much
orchid pulsar
<@&1206091872716595200> we have space for one more IT IS DIF 9 BE WARNED IT IS DIF 9
orchid pulsar
wanna join us amko?
keen zinc
Work
naive dragon
Quit
orchid pulsar
or you ashley x 3
keen zinc
I'll be around on Thursday
hexed steeple
took a direct hit from a cannon turret tower on the shield and survive with this much hp and a bit of a tumble. what da hell
ballistic shield i should specify
keen zinc
It's a good shield
unkempt river
They're good shields, Bront.
tall nova
I'm surprised at how good AMR is against bots
It feels so bad against bugs, but bots is great
pastel igloo
@orchid pulsar still have an open spot?
orchid pulsar
hell yeah
naive dragon
:)
sinful bay
THEY ARE BACK ❤️
rare nymph
The new defense mission is so crazy when everyone brings sentries
azure pewter
quick crown
I love democracy.gif
hexed steeple
how does the new defense mission differ from like extermination mission or ye olde evacs
modest fiber
<@&1206091872716595200> anyone else interested in diving?
cobalt patrol
how does the new defense mission differ from like extermination mission or ye ol...
It's a dedicated faciltiy to defend. You start off up at the rocket launch, and it has several tiers of gates that you can close/open
you get 2 minutes to setup, and then teh automatoms start flooding in
The bototm most area has two entry points, then there's just one for each other one
hexed steeple
:o that soinds cool@as hell
cobalt patrol
Gates can be destroyed
sinful bay
Oh so is almost like a tower defence mission?
cobalt patrol
and you're holding until X rockets get launched (was 8 on diff 7)
20 minutes, we finisehd at... 7 minutes?
so a rocket every minute and a half or something?
keen zinc
I hope they end up just replacing the standard evacuate important personnel with that
quick plinth
unfortunately doesnt seem likely
I'd just hope they make evac ess personnel more defensible
cobalt patrol
Evacuate isnt unfixable, it's msotly neeidng things pusehd even further out on where tehy drop
sinful bay
My favorite is that clip of the scientist jumping on a bot grenade
T-
Thanks dude
unkempt river
sinful bay
What are you doing
HELLDIVER NO, THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS AN AUTOMATON GIRLFRIEND WAITING FOR YOU AT THE BORDERS
pastel igloo
that's so funny
keen zinc
Cyborgs being freed is gonna be interesting
I wonder what new and interesting things they're gonna cook up for the Automatons
undone veldt
What are you doing
HELLDIVER NO, THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS AN AUTOMATON GIRLFRIE...
I WILL GET MY COMMUNIST ROBOT GF
HEART STEEL
WE KILL
ON TO WAR
keen zinc
Automatons just got their R&D think tank
Cyborgs are gonna be evacuated out to safety and churn out upgrades, I'm betting
keen zinc
I don't think the cyborgs are going to be risked in direct combat, they're too valuable and shooting humans up close and gory style with the new graphics brings rating problems in European countries
Robots much easier to have as enemies
undone veldt
The infantry waves
keen zinc
Ye
undone veldt
I’m imagining more like, a command vehicle
keen zinc
Maybe like, VIP units that are protected by automatons
undone veldt
Being piloted by a cyborg
undone veldt
Maybe like, VIP units that are protected by automatons
Hell there could even be side objectives attached to it
keen zinc
A cyborg being nearby providing buffs to Automatons
undone veldt
“Destroy the cyborg bunker”
keen zinc
Destroy a cyborg brain tank
sinful bay
I WILL GET MY COMMUNIST ROBOT GF
YOU FOOL YOU FORGOT TO READ THE SACRED WALL TEXT
keen zinc
Cyborg detected
sinful bay
WHAT YOU MEAN THE GUARDSMAN IS NOW DATING A NECRON?!
undone veldt
Twitter
burnt vapor
https://x.com/rrh_art/status/1777679122786894004?s=46&t=fIUfY3FiRXkmKVbIBdHHIw
A great lesson in why non-super earth prosthetics should be destroyed asap and under no circumstances integrated into citizen physiology
burnt vapor
See now that is a super earth approved prosthetic
sinful bay
And super earth is now a cyborg paradise
FOR DEMOCRACY
keen zinc
Super Earth approved
heavy portal
Maybe you have been cybernetically enhanced to be able to fire such weapons
sinful bay
Surprises me they don't Dreadnought Helldivers with a smidge of life left in them
merry cosmos
I have augmentative prosthetics
Whats the difference?
pastel igloo
cyborgs are traitorous
burnt vapor
Cyborgs have cybernetics
pastel igloo
we don't do cybernetics
burnt vapor
Steeled Veterans have Augmentative prosthetics
tiny flume
We have demonetics
sinful bay
Technically his extra arms would be the augmentative prosthetics right?
So you can argue some armors have that, like the ones that help you throw stuff farther away
keen zinc
Yeah, we don't have cybernetics
We have servo-assisted prosthetics
Having my face and scalp replaced with my X-03 helmet and facemask has not only improved my tactical awareness, but also means I never have to deal with an itchy nose!
sinful bay
And a great boost to your charisma for sure
keen zinc
Yes, the scar tissue was getting a bit thick from the claws and rockets and burns
sinful bay
Kids love to paint your X-03 during photo shoots!
keen zinc
The Helldivers made me the man I am today
glacial light
It's probably because we didn't buy enough Eagle Sweat and their stocks went down
Coincidence? I think not, we simply needed to be more patriotic
keen zinc
sinful bay
But we all konw what TRUE patriots would wear
Give us the Real Patriot armor we need, ArrowHEad
quick crown
I feel like bug killin is a better way to get super samples
but maybe its just because running from bugs is marginally easier
sinful bay
Ballistic Shield is useful again
stoic lotus
I challenge you to beat 28/28/90/211
modest fiber
gotta carry them samples
stoic lotus
that is a lot of samples
idle hollow
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_4i-yOUmXY
https://youtu.be/Iq3iJdfIuyo also, alternatively:
stoic lotus
to this day I have no idea how one physically gets 28 kills in a full mission
lunar jetty
I swear these extraction missions are getting harder
modest fiber
perfection
quick crown
It would be cool if cyberstan has like the city tileset that the first game had
But thats been pretty much the desire for most of HD2 so far is even more variety of maps. (Its not dissapointing mind you its just i want more)
cobalt patrol
My combat stats ammuse me
on average, 36 enemies die for every dead helldiver i'm responsible for (Friendly fire AND my own deaths)
...and then there's the melee kills where i've only b eaten something to death 7 times, showing my clear ethical superority.
heavy portal
You know it strikes me
That even though helldiver casualty rates are horrific
Casualty rate of the enemy has to be much worse
pastel igloo
oh yeah
it's so much worse
i mean the automatons came back with 10x numbers in their mega fleet
tall stone
Helldivers really are elite
pastel igloo
but we still absolutely slaughtered them in Operation Swift Disassembly
in like 3 days we killed an equivalent of 1/10th of their current mega fleet
that's a lot
cobalt patrol
Helldivers are very d isposable elites, but they're still quiute potent
1:36 kill ratio is well
good
pastel igloo
it's crazy good
pastel igloo
Helldivers are very d isposable elites, but they're still quiute potent
and because they are so disposable while still having access to insane weaponry
cobalt patrol
Our accuracy is absurd in real life terms
pastel igloo
they can do maximum damage
pastel igloo
Our accuracy is absurd in real life terms
cobalt patrol
In real life a 1:500 accuracy is about what you get (1 hit for every 500 shots or something)
meanwhile i'm often coming out with an acuracy of 75% or so.
3:4 in otherwords.
pastel igloo
our bullet acc according to Helldivers.io is higher globally than the amount of bullets we've shot
which means Helldivers statistically kill more than one enemy per bullet
tall stone
It also doesn't count accuracy for laser weapons
south temple
jesus
pastel igloo
it's around 20 BILLION vs. 573 million
south temple
not bad numbers
tall stone
Hell yeah
pastel igloo
yeah statistical average of 34 enemy kills per helldiver death is really fucking good
34:1 K/D ratio is nuts
south temple
no straight up that’s wild
pastel igloo
objectively Helldivers are omega fucked when it comes to killing
like no matter what you say about the like 70% casualty rating in the tutorial thing they are still winning massively
honest acorn
Tbf helldivers aren’t that special they just have an insane amount of firepower in orbit and a satchel of call in grenades
pastel igloo
i mean yeah that's the point
south temple
Tbf helldivers aren’t that special they just have an insane amount of firepower ...
quantity has a quality of its own oorah
pastel igloo
the way they work and the armaments they are given makes them monstrously effective at killing
south temple
every diver has the ability to call in a shitload of 380s there’s no way we could lose
honest acorn
If you ask me the REAL heroes are the people on the bridge clicking out of free trial pop ups to steer the orbital lasers
honest acorn
I hope so
cobalt patrol
pastel igloo
lmao
good to know that my medals should arrive at least
i'm still missing my medals from Operation Swift Disassembly
junior badge
I didn't spend enough of mine, because I'm trying to have 250 ready for the new warbond and wasted some : 😭
pastel igloo
yeah i'm still missing my Operation Swift Disassembly money
cobalt patrol
Meanwhile
at 250 and counting for weeks on end
RIP me
hoenstly thoguh it's hard to get too mad about this
merry cosmos
Tbf helldivers aren’t that special they just have an insane amount of firepower ...
And take a shit tone of meth and believe in themselves
sinful bay
We need that medal money, explosion warbound is coming soon 👏
pastel igloo
I have three warbonds and not enough money for any of them yet
unreal merlin
Wonder if there will ever be any kind of resource sink. Sitting at 500/250/100 samples and 50000reqs is underwhelming.
sinful bay
I need those super samples ;w;
copper crest
Consumable sink where you can buy bigger fireworks on mission completion
merry cosmos
Wonder if there will ever be any kind of resource sink. Sitting at 500/250/100 s...
Send your surplus to other super destroyers in need!
pastel igloo
Idle resources do nobody good
copper crest
The most expensive firework option involves actual explosives large enough to set off the ship’s alarm klaxons
unreal merlin
Send your surplus to other super destroyers in need!
And deprive them of the opportunity to demonstrate their individual merit and commitment to spreading Liberty? How could you suggest such a thing. Every man, woman, and child over seven deserves the chance to prove themselves.
hot meadow
I’m really glad they’re aware the current system sucks lol
merry cosmos
What is the minimum age to inlist in the SEAF anyway?
burnt vapor
18 I think was the minimum?
Which sounds surprisingly good of super earth till you realize it also endorses child labour
merry cosmos
So they aren't sending every man woman and child over seven then?
burnt vapor
See if they sent the 7 year olds they would need to make smaller armour which would be inefficient
The 7 year olds get sent to the factories instead
merry cosmos
And get custom fited PPE... if available
(Look you have a black Templar pfp I had to do it)
unreal merlin
So they aren't sending every man woman and child over seven then?
Everyone does their part, but not everyone's part is the same.
sinful bay
So they aren't sending every man woman and child over seven then?
If that 7 year old can hold a rifle he is more than ready to shoot bugs
You see that Bile Titan? It's barely a YEAR old, what is the baby's excuse?! /j
tall stone
Someone has to work in the factories
gusty heron
Not anymore 😢
heavy portal
They escaped again?
gusty heron
We may have the lower the minimum age to 6. Truly, those automatons hate the children* of Super Earth.
*This will no longer be true in a couple of years, when the socially acceptable age for children to work has been recognized as 6, but it stands for now. Damn robots!
gusty heron
They escaped again?
Cyberstan is very very unliberated, so I'm assuming so. Super Earth might be Gainfully Employing them elsewhere, though.
sinful bay
Welp
Time to make the bugs work for superearth
cobalt patrol
I’m really glad they’re aware the current system sucks lol
I suspect like a lot of things it's them dealing with the impact of "Oh shit, we assumed a max of 120k ccu. We now have peaks of over 700k CCu. Uh. HELP"
honest acorn
lol yeah
pastel igloo
Welp
Time to make the bugs work for superearth
bit of an issue as we are using them for fuel currently
heady halo
Wonder if there will ever be any kind of resource sink. Sitting at 500/250/100 s...
i hope we get exorbitantly medal expensive but reasonably priced in super credits colours at some point as a super shop options
as a resource sink
cobalt patrol
You know, i'd like people on Helldive diffuclty to be better
i basically solo carried thatm ission becauise i knew how to stealth around bots
On that note, i have been sleeping on how good Orbital smoke strike is.
wish it had a little lower cooldown, but it is immensly strong
dusky solar
Huh did you know you can beat hulks to death with your bare hands?
dusky solar
Lol
Me and a friend tried it this morning when we heard the automatons came back and we were fucking around
Also found out if you stand behind the hulk's right leg it's easiest to stay behind them
heady halo
i basically solo carried thatm ission becauise i knew how to stealth around bots
god i had a hellish mission like that a few days ago
i managed to sneak around them causing hell and get two bases on my own, ending up curled in a corner waiting for the bots to deagro and the timer on free respawns to wind down for the two dead teammates
and the third runs right on top of me dragging a patrol
we had so much time
dusky solar
Oh god one time i was stealthing a detector tower and my WHOLE TEAM showed up and burned 9 lives fighting the horde of hulks they weren't thinning
cobalt patrol
MNy contiuned 380 abuse serves me well
both of these two bozos bought the orbital laser, and then used it up early
often very wastefully
like it's a great strat, but if you're gonna be that liberal with it just... bring 120 or 380
do yourself a favor
(it's exactly why i bring 380, because i can go Bot drop? No. Heavy base? No. Escaping hell at extract? No.)
heady halo
MNy contiuned 380 abuse serves me well
thats how i got those two bases!
crawl up, hock a 380 and a 120, leave
dusky solar
I heard my new favorite headcanon for faction lore
The automatons don't really care too much about super earth, they just need oil to live and we're between them and the bugs
heady halo
hah
oblique storm
pfft
dusky solar
It would be extremely funny to me if the bugs were like the ONE mostly innocent faction in the setting
And everyone just keeps trying to kill them for their oil
oblique storm
Fun fact!
dusky solar
I still have a crack theory that there are brain bugs somewhere
dusky solar
They are??
honest acorn
even the little ones
dusky solar
Like i knew they were individuals but like
Don't they have simple little animal brains?
oblique storm
Nope!
heady halo
oh my god its all people
dusky solar
So they're as smart as a helldiver?
heady halo
i mean
honest acorn
Given the state of the helldivers
heady halo
thinking about some teams ive played with
dusky solar
They seem animalistic
honest acorn
Maybe even smarter
dusky solar
:3
But for real i definitely buy them being individuals with their own brains, but their behavior is so much simpler than i'd think if they had like, a culture
Or communication outside of pheromones
Like i don't really see bugs sharing complex ideas with each other that weren't just evolved
dusky solar
Maybe even smarter
This gem really cemented my assessment of helldiver intelligence
heady halo
honestly though, thats also like, part of being both an alien and one that had all society and culture stripped from it and was raised in a factory farm for a 100 years
which, is what we in cannon did to the terminids
dusky solar
True! So bugs in hd1 had an actual like... society???
heady halo
its kind of miracolous they even managed to break out of that
dusky solar
So they're like planet of the apes humans?
heady halo
i kind of hope they and the bots win
dusky solar
Fuck the bots but the bugs can win
heady halo
hah