I still despise chargers
#Helldivers 2: For Managed Democracy!
pastel igloo
keen zinc
Also you can melee scavengers
south temple
FT?
keen zinc
This weekend, Freyja, I will show you the Way of Disrespect
cobalt patrol
FT and AT (Arc thrower) are just very good options vs bugs.
stoic lotus
I always seem to set myself on fire with the flamethrower because of the weird way it places the fire on terrain
firing it down hills and stuff is super treacherous
cobalt patrol
In general, firing while moving foward is a mistake
south temple
i wish i could dip my diver in asbestos
cobalt patrol
i either stay still or slowly walk backwards
keen zinc
undone veldt
In general, firing while moving foward is a mistake
I do that when stun locking devastators with a shotgun
south temple
i keep using the flamethrower and taking out like 3 whole post codes including myself
keen zinc
If there are 500 bugs chasing you, use a cluster on them
cobalt patrol
i only focus fire on chargers (about 3s to kill one if you melt a single leg)
keen zinc
That'll thin em out
south temple
If there are 500 bugs chasing you, use a cluster on them
true clusters are way more fun vs bugs
cobalt patrol
I do that when stun locking devastators with a shotgun
To be clear, that was falmethrwoer sepcific advice
undone veldt
Ah
keen zinc
Breaker doesn't feel like a good bug gun because ammo efficiency is important
stoic lotus
i keep using the flamethrower and taking out like 3 whole post codes including m...
yeah that's how it be
north fiber
mentioned this last night, but I would love to see some flame resist armor
undone veldt
Breaker doesn't feel like a good bug gun because ammo efficiency is important
I like it just for how it destroys bile spewers
stoic lotus
Breaker doesn't feel like a good bug gun because ammo efficiency is important
nah the breaker's not bad you just have to have trigger discipline with it
cobalt patrol
Slugger is still very strong into bugs if you can place your shots
south temple
yeah that's how it be
my life for super earth oorah
undone veldt
Yah ammo efficiency isn’t the best but the burst damage is amazing
stoic lotus
the breaker has really nice ad clear
cobalt patrol
It's slow, yes, but it still cuts legs off very efficetly
south temple
Slugger is still very strong into bugs if you can place your shots
i agree it's very fun still
stoic lotus
and in a pinch you can magdump a big boi and get him off you
cobalt patrol
and it's got enough punchthrough it can wipe multiple littles in a single shot
tiny flume
It wouldn't surprise me if we got a "flame based" Warbond or something, like how we got an energy one
Flame side arm. Marksman weapon that deals fire damage
cobalt patrol
I'm sure they've got a ton of ideas
south temple
what would they add in terms of weapons? i feel like the pool's been exhausted
keen zinc
Eh, at high diffs you gotta have an answer for the mortar bile spewers
south temple
ah i see
cobalt patrol
an incendary marksman rifle could be real fun
undone veldt
Eh, at high diffs you gotta have an answer for the mortar bile spewers
Your own mortar is honestly a pretty good answer
cobalt patrol
high inital damage and garunteed ignites
tiny flume
I was thinking low damage but DOT to make up for it
south temple
flame pistol would be fire (i am literally johnny silverhand)
alpine seal
hoping the thermite grenade is as good v. chargers as the trailer makes it out to be
keen zinc
Your own mortar is honestly a pretty good answer
Mortar against bugs
tiny flume
So you like tag everyone once and let them burn
keen zinc
Lmao
alpine seal
that'll free up a lot of options in terms of bug anti-tank
cobalt patrol
Mortar against bugs
I warn people and if they dont chagne i will kick them
because i do not trust randos with the mortar into bugs
(it can be a good option, but it's often team kill central)
copper crest
Flamer “carbine” that’s a one-handed primary
cobalt patrol
and i'm Mx. 380 enoyer over here.
undone veldt
Mortar against bugs
Ok yes it’s a little EXTREMELY dangerous but against Bile mortars specifically it’s a good option
south temple
and i'm Mx. 380 enoyer over here.
based
cobalt patrol
I've been having fun with precision strike into bugs recently
better than you'd think
south temple
i'd imagine yeah
cobalt patrol
as long as you play like an absoloute psycopath
tiny flume
I just unlocked orbital laser so I'm having a good time
cobalt patrol
which HULLO HAVE YOU SEEN ME PLAY
keen zinc
Cluster and Precision Strike are my two call ins nowadays
cobalt patrol
I AM THE PROPHET OF AUDACITY
I got a bile titan with the precision strike and it flipped through the air and crushed the second one
it was perfection
keen zinc
Zombie understands the super earth strategy of attack and further attack
copper crest
Extremely cool that the starter stratagem precision strike is top tier
tiny flume
Orbital laser got me some nostalgia
south temple
EMS is still one of my favs
stoic lotus
the two pillars of successful military campaigns
keen zinc
The ethos I live by
tiny flume
Extremely cool that the starter stratagem precision strike is top tier
I've never not taken the eagle airstrike with me so far
keen zinc
Liberator is a great gun against bugs tbh
south temple
fuck's the enemy gonna do, counterattack? not if you overwhelm them with your superior offense
cobalt patrol
Zombie understands the super earth strategy of attack and further attack
"My centre is giving way, my right is retreating, excellent situation, I am attacking."
copper crest
Also eagle airstrike, yeah
cobalt patrol
@copper crest The horiztonal balancing of this game is lovely
keen zinc
"My centre is giving way, my right is retreating, excellent situation, I am atta...
The only realistic option tbh
cobalt patrol
especailly after playing sdhit like D2 and Warframe
north fiber
The different factions do a lot to help with the balance as well
keen zinc
especailly after playing sdhit like D2 and Warframe
I will say one thing
cobalt patrol
Where the ever increasing enemy stats and damage - like D2 is a hell of a lot of fun... and then GMs it turns into a bad cover shooter.
cobalt patrol
Because i stuck my head out and the FUCKING SCORN CROSSBOW TOOK IT OFF
I do miss the Optictor from warframe
That was a very satisfying gun.\
north fiber
The last nightwave buffed it to hell
keen zinc
The Corinth was so fucking crunchy
cobalt patrol
(Imagine the quasaur, but a primary weapon and fast charging because... lol)
keen zinc
Felt like shooting a box of captain crunch with every shot
north fiber
Unfortunately it was the last nightwave, not this nightwave
south temple
The Corinth is the greatest video game shotgun of all time
when are they gonna add the Hek for Super Earth
cobalt patrol
The last nightwave buffed it to hell
Wait, did they stop doing Nightwaves? XD
keen zinc
north fiber
the one before the current one
keen zinc
I'm glad the Punisher is good
south temple
man i need to play warframe again
keen zinc
Because it fills a similar brain feel
north fiber
I'm hoping they add a pump action incarnon at some point
cobalt patrol
man i need to play warframe again
II recommend you dont
play more Helldivers, the good live service game
keen zinc
Yeah
cobalt patrol
who's devs will never betray us 😛
south temple
II recommend you dont
oh yeah it's a terrible idea
keen zinc
Fuck DE
cobalt patrol
I still find warframe's monetization INCREDIBLY c reepy
keen zinc
Turned Warframe into the world's most layered onion of ridiculous grinds
cobalt patrol
and the way people defend it
is just ????
like can you play the game free? Techincally, yes.
but the entire game is setup to nickle and dime you and tempt you constnatly
and the prime aceesses are just ahahahahahaha
what the fuck
keen zinc
Disney vault
south temple
yeah no it's a 24/7 battle to not pay money
keen zinc
It's like a Nutaku game
cobalt patrol
Just a fucking 80 usd every 3 months
unless you wish to grind
and dont even get me started on how the plat market is setup to cause all kinds of problems
south temple
but the entire game is setup to nickle and dime you and tempt you constnatly
never gonna forget the feeling of realizing that it would take actual days to get my first non-starter warframe
cobalt patrol
It's like a Nutaku game
Never herd of this. Google it. Immediately a bunch of results about porn games. Side eyeing whoever these p[eople are hard
stoic lotus
the thing that put me off warframe was just the sheer impenetrable complexity
I didn't mind the crafting timers and stuff
tall stone
I like the laser cannon as my big gun for bugs.
cobalt patrol
the thing that put me off warframe was just the sheer impenetrable complexity
Warframe is the proveribal House built on the ruins of other houses
stoic lotus
and I would trade my vaulted prime parts for the current ones whenever there was a cool one on rotation
keen zinc
Yeah they're a site/publisher for porn games that are designed to drain HUNDREDS of dollars out of addicts
cobalt patrol
Tehre's some fundmental math issues - ages back someone did a reddit post showing the difference between a starter gun and a fuilly upgraded gun was literally billions of damage
just due to how things scale
south temple
the thing that put me off warframe was just the sheer impenetrable complexity
this is true actually, i quit warframe because i realized i had only scratched the surface of an infinite ocean of pure moving parts and grind
cobalt patrol
or the infamous "Extractions are too rewarding, i'm nerfing them" Declares developer who played them with invicniblity c heats turned on
stoic lotus
this is definitely off-topic for the helldivers thread though
keen zinc
Helldivers my beloved
cobalt patrol
EVERYONE GET ON THE 500KG BOMB WE'RE GOING TO HELL (Dive)
tall stone
I'm working on getting myself better at the game
south temple
as a targeted personal attack of course
keen zinc
I knew it
stoic lotus
we have a secret group chat where we co-ordinate it
keen zinc
Of course
keen zinc
I imagine it like a network centric warfare diagram
Your intricate system of secret communiques to arrange gaming without me
burnt vapor
They know too much the system has been compromised
alpine seal
we've a long road ahead of us before the bugs go down
south temple
What if we kill off the bugs too
"what if?" i think you mean "we're gonna"
keen zinc
lethal badger
Ofc Paul atredies supports me
keen zinc
Bugs won't go down
pastel igloo
we've a long road ahead of us before the bugs go down
oh nice, we got Crimsica
south temple
Ofc Paul atredies supports me
lead them (the bugs) to paradise rahhhhhh
alpine seal
ah, right
the bug worlds in far sectors aside from omicron aren't currently connected to anywhere else according to helldivers.io
so effective victory is closer than it seems
though there is no doubt this will change when duty arises - the connection between maia and vandalon iv was pathed by automatons in a last ditch effort to regain cross-sector hegemony
stoic lotus
lead them (the bugs) to paradise rahhhhhh
lisan al gaib!
alpine seal
long live the divers!
tall stone
Hellmire is just a bitch of a planet. Don't know why the bugs love it so much
alpine seal
they're looking to destroy our way of life and the long-honored tradition of fence smashing
keen zinc
Hellmire is just a bitch of a planet. Don't know why the bugs love it so much
They're subterranean
keen zinc
We have to assume that a planet with fire tornados must have a very rapid pace of environmental succession
This probably suits the terminids well
tall stone
I will rest confident that the fire tornados kill them too at least
copper crest
Mired in hell on Hellmire
keen zinc
Next planet on the path: Heckmuck
pastel igloo
found a farming spot
keen zinc
What level are yas Freyja
pastel igloo
18
pastel igloo
found a spot with 40 super credits
keen zinc
Do we know the armor passives for demo demo?
tall nova
Do we know the armor passives for demo demo?
Probably take less explosion damage
But we dont know yet
south temple
i mean that's already a passive, so idk what they'd do other than even more resistance
maybe a knockback thing?
cobalt patrol
FS-55 Devastator: Heavy Armour. Domestic versions of this armour allow colonial farmers to safely plant crops and mines side-by-side while staying in one piece.
I HAVE MANY MANY CONCERNS
keen zinc
It sounds like they're just gonna have the Fortified passive
Based on the descriptions and the prefixes
south temple
bit disappointing tbh
cobalt patrol
Eh, Fortified getting more acessible to people is good
right now the only medium fortified is cash shop only
Warbonds are implcitly more acessible, evne if they're rtechicnally cash shop only as well
south temple
fair yeah
keen zinc
I hope the next update adds more superstore armors
cobalt patrol
A buinch did just get leaked
keen zinc
I try not to look at leaks
cobalt patrol
as in they got added in the last update about 7 days ago
pastel igloo
yeah i skip leaks too
south temple
same
dusky solar
I am a preneial spoiler enjoyer
I read "perineal spoiler enjoyer" and my first though was "that'd really taint my experience"
Ba dum tiss
cobalt patrol
Fair! For me I dont really enjoy being surprised etc,. and it's like nowing how a magican does a trick -for me, knowing enhances the apprecation for the skill on display etc
south temple
exactlyyyyyy
pastel igloo
ok leaving the mission resets it so you need to alt+F4, noted
dusky solar
Fair! For me I dont really enjoy being surprised etc,. and it's like nowing how ...
Noooooo >_< i've been reading the leaks too i just wanted to make another really stupid joke about an anatomical area
The ||perineum||, also known as the ||taint||
strange vine
lmao
cobalt patrol
Be better thjan that 😛
pastel igloo
the hunt for a new spot to farm continues
modest fiber
https://twitter.com/helldivers2/status/1777345490121568662
based statement from high command
glacial light
3 minute celebration during our break and 1 minute extra break? That's only a net loss of 2 minutes for this celebration. Thank you Super Earth
pastel igloo
found a good spot to farm on hellmire of all places
keen zinc
modest fiber
well its time for a fire sale
hexed steeple
:o
modest fiber
hmm.. i have a good feeling about this
modest fiber
nice nice
tiny flume
https://www.rxddit.com/r/Helldivers/s/xrn37GIFrR
I saw this earlier, is it new?
Oh wait is the name wrong or something?
pastel igloo
20 missions of this to get 1000 super credtis, i love managed democracy
tiny flume
A bug you say....
Weird cos Catalog expansion could be the name of an upgrade
Ooor
It's the name used internally as a placeholder
keen zinc
It's a sign of something moving in the backend
tiny flume
Yeah but the back end moves around more than Shakira's
keen zinc
This is not the way
pastel igloo
egh, i wanna grab one of the passes
tiny flume
lil farm didn't hurt anyone
pastel igloo
i don't think this is any more objectionable than just buying the credits
honest acorn
If you don’t mind the tedium it’s a very time efficient way to knock out a pass
pastel igloo
yep
which is what i am doing
going to try to save up for the passes i am missing and then for the upcoming one
prolly will farm out as much as i can for the two current ones them farm the rest later
keen zinc
dusky solar
Noice, ugh maybe i should farm sc today
I want the dominator
And the senator
Nothing else in the entire warbond really
honest acorn
Fire breaker and fire grenade will be real good when the issues with dots are worked out
They’re frustratingly unpredictable atm though
dusky solar
Yeah. I wonder if they'll tone the damage back down
I usually don't host or else those would be higher on my list
pastel igloo
Hellmire is looking tough but doable atm
junior badge
ALERT: ROGUE ITEM DETECTED :enforcer:
The Ministry of Truth has confirmation that a rogue item called the "catalog expansion" is temporarily visible in the Ship Management menu and, in accordance with regulations, we instruct all Helldivers to avoid this rogue item until further notice. The Ministry of Truth cannot confirm the reliability or safety of this item, nor can they confirm its origin.
Huh
Glad I'm just about to get home and turn the PC on for some gaming
honest acorn
Seems like nothing
keen zinc
got the Sickle which is epic
It's a good gun
pastel igloo
i like it
graceful bluff
domain expansion: 500kg
keen zinc
I wish it was smaller
It looks way too big on your hip
It floats further out and is angled outward so it clips through your arm
hot meadow
I have fallen in love with the servo armor. I can throw stuff so far omg
south temple
the legionnaire armor is my fav for bugs
graceful bluff
Servo armors also all look great
south temple
with the creeker cape and the first page servo helmet it looks killer
graceful bluff
https://www.rxddit.com/r/Helldivers/s/xrn37GIFrR
also memes aside, I find it kinda interesting that they put it here
so that you have to get power steering before more stratagems
hot meadow
we will see if it stays that way I guess
I kind of hope not, it’s hard to coax my wife into difficulties with super samples.
dusky solar
I finally got all my friend groups playing all factions on 9, it was a struggle but everyone's having way more fun now
pastel igloo
Terminids is bugs
keen zinc
One day I will go from 7s to 8s to 9s
Unfortunately I do not have friends
And do not enjoy playing with randos
So I await here for any opportunities to play
south temple
9 bots are hysterical yeah
keen zinc
I can't wait for the Adjudicator so I can just shoot bile spewers in their stupid face
pastel igloo
i think people should do 9 bots as one of their first missions
south temple
i feel like fucking brad pitt in fury it's so fun
keen zinc
Meh
south temple
literally 10000 annihilator tanks trying to crawl up my ass 24/7
with a coordinated team it's the best
pastel igloo
it is
south temple
it'll teach them something useful for fighting bots
fear
pastel igloo
the difference between 7 and 9 on bugs is staggering
pastel igloo
i jumped to 9 bots as soon as i was able to
pastel igloo
i did my first 7 mission at lvl 8 and it was fantastic
oblique storm
It turns out when there's 10 stalkers spawned all at once you kinda can't do anything
pastel igloo
you just gotta play with other people who know what is going on
south temple
i had to run solo for a while
pastel igloo
i have to preface that what i am saying will not work if you just jump into it solo
south temple
so the first 15 levels for me were running 5-6s solo with only my autocannon lmao
pastel igloo
but if you get carried to the higher levels it's fun
south temple
i have to preface that what i am saying will not work if you just jump into it s...
sounds like seditious talk to me, you only need one helldiver to ensure victory
pastel igloo
no i mean for new Helldivers
if you have two or three experienced Helldivers with them, they should be basically completely fine to jump into like 7-9
at least for bots
south temple
i mean it'll be a fuckin experience but trial by fire n allat
pastel igloo
i didn't do a single mission lower than 7 after lvl 8
south temple
i run 6s fairly consistently for solos, my internet's been slow so i'm dead weight in pubs
south temple
yeah same i just need a team of friends lol
my only other consistent conscript doesn't like running high diffs
pastel igloo
we are not making good progress on Hellmire
keen zinc
It turns out when there's 10 stalkers spawned all at once you kinda can't do any...
Punisher
Shoot em in the mouf
Biggest problem with bot players fighting bugs is they don't stick together
Bots let you split up and be effective but Bugs exist to punish lapses in awareness and coverage
tall stone
It always helps to remember that the bugs aren't fighting you: They're hunting you. And you need to address your tactics as such.
If you focus on one thing too much, the bastards will ambush you
pastel igloo
with this treasure i summon a 500kg bomb at my feet
gg ez
more seriously eagle clusters are really good
modest fiber
we are not making good progress on Hellmire
send in more dudes
pastel igloo
yeah
i'm technically on Hellmire atm but i'm doing super credit farming so i'm not exactly contributing
getting some medals as well while i'm at it
good shit
1-3 medals with my 50 sc
glacial light
I'm a stratgem throwing machine that turns eagle cluster strikes into dead enemies and teammates
solid lagoon
I'm a stratgem throwing machine that turns eagle cluster strikes into dead enemi...
based as hell 
pastel igloo
fr
solid lagoon
Congratulations helldiver, you’ve been promoted to artillery
glacial light
Congratulations helldiver, you’ve been promoted to artillery
I'm part of the SEAF now. Look at me I get benefits and stuff so I can make it home to my family safely
candid finch
stoic lotus
anyone wanna farm some SC
keen zinc
more seriously eagle clusters are really good
Best eagle strat by far
Not joking
I run it and Precision Strike
pastel igloo
time to hell dive
stoic lotus
the planets we have to do it on atm are a bit miserable lol
keen zinc
It always helps to remember that the bugs aren't fighting you: They're *hunting*...
Excellent way to put it
stoic lotus
and I keep finding friendship doors I can't open
glacial light
Or as I would like to call them
Buddy Bunkers
Duo Doors
Pal Places
Comrade Corridor
dusky solar
How does sc farming work anyway, you find a mission with a ton of sc, pick it all up, don't extract, and then force close the game?
candid finch
Game pretty sometimes
keen zinc
How does sc farming work anyway, you find a mission with a ton of sc, pick it al...
Yep
It's an exploit
God I hope they fix Stalwart hitmarkers soon
It's such a minor thing but it significantly worsens the feel
candid finch
Or as I would like to call them
Buddy Bunkers
Duo Doors
Pal Places
Comrade Corri...
I call em buddy doors cause I like the three D's near one another.
honest acorn
God I hope they fix Stalwart hitmarkers soon
Yeha I want it a lot
I'm kind of mixed on the stalwart in general but its annoying QOL
stoic lotus
How does sc farming work anyway, you find a mission with a ton of sc, pick it al...
I'm just running around diff 1 missions picking up all the POIs
glacial light
Do it
candid finch
yeah I purchased nothing happened
glacial light
But did it expand your catalogue
hallow gorge
How much did it cost?
stoic lotus
free
candid finch
Free I think I noticed there wasn't a cost after I pressed the button
why yes I fall for scams why do you ask
heady halo
its a bug theres been some ifficial announcements about it
quick crown
But what was the cost 
honest acorn
no cost and it doesn't stay bought near as I can tell
glacial light
Hello fellow Helldivers, I am a holdout stuck on malevelon creek that has found a secret automaton treasure trove of democracy, I simply need 50000 requisition slips to be able to order a 5000kg bomb to destroy the barrier and will return you with 1 million requisitions as a thanks for your aid
That's what the button should be for
blissful sparrow
nice, i can turn 50000 useless requisition into 50000 useless requisition
glacial light
Thank you malevelon creek veteran holdout
sinful bay
9 with bugs is hellish
Yeah-
I wanted Super Samples and I just felt miserable
sinful bay
agreed, when the team is good is catharsis the gameplay
but I prefer to be overwhelmed by bots rather than bugs anyday
pastel igloo
i have not enjoyed 9's no matter what
sinful bay
I just want the super samples man , then I will not be touching 9
honest acorn
7 is best for samples imo
pastel igloo
you can get them on 7
honest acorn
half as many as 9 but much better odds you get them off planet
9s make you work real hard haha
dusky solar
It definitely also depends on how many 9s you've got your team to play
Because you can eventually get it to where there's almost no risk of losing anything at extract
The other trick where you can manage enemy spawn directions via manipulating what bug or bot outposts are left is really strong too
I hate clearing those 10 hole bug outposts though.
It's such a slog of a fight
honest acorn
just 380mm it
dusky solar
Yeah that's my solution nowadays
honest acorn
it usually gets like 7-9 of them and might clear it solo
oak crow
I hate clearing those 10 hole bug outposts though.
the issue with it, imo, is that you can’t clear bug breaches
honest acorn
It's horrible to fight them manually
oak crow
and so bugs just pile up and lead to even more bugs
honest acorn
The trick with 9s is to keep moving the bugs want to bog you down into like infinite enemies but there are limits if you keep moving
dusky solar
Yep. I replaced orb laser vs bugs with 380 but sometimes it's just bleh at outposts. Like it just decides "nah homie 5/10 is the best i can do"
dusky solar
The trick with 9s is to keep moving the bugs want to bog you down into like infi...
Yeah the way i see it there's 2 phases to bug fights. 1) can you clear everything before the infinite breach snowball starts? If no, 2) run and kite and break line of sight
honest acorn
I think the horrible secret is that I'm pretty sure the infinite breach snowball is actually just more patrols walking up
I'm relatively confident that bugs from a breach can't call breaches unless they're brood commanders doing the funny brood commander summon
sinful bay
A so 7 is best even if it is only 3 per mission, thank ya
dusky solar
A so 7 is best even if it is only 3 per mission, thank ya
The "best" is "the highest difficulty your squad feels comfortable consistently extracting on"
sinful bay
Trivial, got it /j
dusky solar
For example, if you extract the supers more than 50% of the time on 9s, it's better to do those for 6 super samples, than it is to get 3 super samples every time on 7s
Quick maffs
honest acorn
The "best" is "the highest difficulty your squad feels comfortable consistently ...
It's also notably harder to find the uranium mushroom on 9s because you have less freedom of movement
sinful bay
No but yeah, I am trying to get out of my confrot zone because I use sentries a lot and most of the Sentry upgrades really need Super Samples
modest fiber
<@&1206091872716595200> the time is nigh, lets flatten out hellmire
dusky solar
It's also notably harder to find the uranium mushroom on 9s because you have les...
XD that may be true i guess my friends are just really consistent at getting the supers?
I've never felt much of a difference.
honest acorn
It depends on map a lot
honest acorn
Some places are more chopped up by mountains and its much more noticeable there
dusky solar
Yeah, hellmire is hard to find the rock on because everything is a rock spire shaped like a chicken drumstick
Instead of like vandalon
Where it's an open ice field with a random rock in it
honest acorn
Vandalon IV is probably the best example of a really chopped up map setup, but I've also always managed to find the mushroom on it so its a bad example
modest fiber
thats quite a rocky situation
honest acorn
(I might be thinking of a different template - ice map with mountains and water)
sinful bay
At least yesterday I got my highest kill streak yet
57 (Flamethrower + Laser Dog)
oak crow
I'm relatively confident that bugs from a breach can't call breaches unless they...
it’s a combination of patrols and the bugs that come from the 10 holes in the base who, i believe, are capable of calling breaches.
sinful bay
it’s a combination of patrols and the bugs that come from the 10 holes in the ba...
Yeah it feels endless and they 'come out of nowhere'
At least with the bots yo usee the ships coming
oak crow
even if the breach bugs can’t call another breach, the ones who can’t be dealt with because of them are the problem
yep
tho i wish shooting them down did more
honest acorn
it’s a combination of patrols and the bugs that come from the 10 holes in the ba...
Oh yeah, I just mean breach bugs cannot themselves call breaches
oak crow
i take down 9/10 of the dropships i see and the bots are unscathed
honest acorn
But its still important to take large bases as fast as possible
sinful bay
Specially the flying bugs nests
honest acorn
those are annoying yeah
I think the best way to handle them is honestly a buddy loaded RR
even if you're not usually doing buddy loading setting it up for a bit and dropping supplies to bang off 6 shots fast helps a lot
oblique lotus
I think the best way to handle them is honestly a buddy loaded RR
laser cannon does it really well
sinful bay
Absolutely
oblique lotus
and/or multiple EAT/quasar drops
honest acorn
Oh does it? I haven't tried but it seems to take a while
sinful bay
Is LC good against bugs? I need to give it a try still
i-
Look 90% of my time was just against bots
oblique lotus
laser cannon is substantially better vs bots but it will cook flyer nests iwth like 60% of the heatsink
quasar is probably the better option but it takes a while
honest acorn
Bugs there's a big gulf between "weapons which kill chargers from the front" and "weapons which don't" and the LC doesn't and is sort of awkward vs lighter enemies
With the RR buffs I do think its RR
You can take the nest in like 10 seconds or less
sinful bay
Does the FT kills charger fro mthe front? I read you should aim for the front legs
honest acorn
Does the FT kills charger fro mthe front? I read you should aim for the front le...
yes but to the legs specifically
and you need to have blowtorch like focus
sinful bay
dang
Tho I am getting better at dodging Chargers so I can do it soon
modest fiber
currently there are no bots tho so 🤷 potato
keen zinc
Each part has individual health
sinful bay
It literally is like you guys said
just
walk to the side
keen zinc
Yes
sinful bay
Don't dive
Just
Walk
keen zinc
I told you. Do not respect them
Diving appears to trigger them to do the shoulder check that has a faster turn around
Just walk around them and they will run off and do the slow skid to stop
sinful bay
Yeah it does.
I still feel like I am not shooting at them correctly tho
Like
"Shoot the butt" yeah but it feels it takes forever to kill it with the punisher
keen zinc
Impact Grenades pitched under their thorax is key
The butt is a weakspot for explosives
rapid plover
Like
"Shoot the butt" yeah but it feels it takes forever to kill it with the pun...
it's only an explosive weakpoint
keen zinc
It has 90% damage resist to normal bullets
stoic lotus
you aren't gonna kill the butt with standard weapons yeah
rapid plover
yeah you do only 10% damage with non explosives
stoic lotus
need to blow it up
sinful bay
it's only an explosive weakpoint
I gonna insta-buy the new battlepass wareffort i swear
keen zinc
Absurd high damage weapons can overcome this via brute force
stoic lotus
I got melee attacked by a charger for the first time today it was very surprising
honest acorn
The side lunge isn’t dive related it’s based on proximity in general
keen zinc
Such as max rpm machine guns
stoic lotus
it didn't charge it just smacked me
honest acorn
I’ve had them do it just by running to the side of them but close
keen zinc
The side lunge isn’t dive related it’s based on proximity in general
Whatever it is, if I just walk to the side and they miss me by an inch they've NEVER done it to me
honest acorn
But diving tends to put you at that distance unless you were real close to not needing to dive anyway
keen zinc
I think they do it if you get too far away during their pass, they try to dodge punish you
But if you just walk sideways they think they can still hit you with the charge and just keep going
keen zinc
I got melee attacked by a charger for the first time today it was very surprisin...
Yeah the Crushing Claw is deadly
honest acorn
Their melee hits so hard
keen zinc
Hence why you must keep at a good calm controlled hustle
sinful bay
calm
Controlled
Stares at my meds
I will try
keen zinc
To be an implement of destruction you must be highly trained and focused
sinful bay
Not a lie, to recklessly rush forward is to die with a thin layer of bravado
pastel igloo
i'd live
keen zinc
Not a lie, to recklessly rush forward is to die with a thin layer of bravado
I WANT THAT BRAVADO THICK, DO YOU UNDERSTAND ME
I want the your air if confidence to be so all encompassing that the enemies are stifled by it! Choked by it! Killed for lack of the ability to breath freely in the presence of it!
candid finch
The doctors said I might get heart problems if the bravado gets thicker
keen zinc
That's a problem for an old and useless you, which you will never be, because you are a HELLDIVER
sinful bay
I WANT THAT BRAVADO ***THICK***, DO YOU UNDERSTAND ME
YES SIR O7
south temple
wait what's the strat for SC farming? can you alt-f4 to keep the creds?
stoic lotus
yes but it's immoral
dusky solar
Can breach spawned bugs not cause breaches, or is it that there's an internal cooldown on breaches?
keen zinc
You find a good map with loads of SC, remember where they all are, then alt f4 and keep loading that same mission
It'll have the same map over and over
dusky solar
Manipulating drop timers was something you could do with bots that felt actually cool and tactical in game
You shoot a faraway base with a sniper to trigger an alert
honest acorn
Can breach spawned bugs not cause breaches, or is it that there's an internal co...
I think its the former but I'm not sure
keen zinc
Can breach spawned bugs not cause breaches, or is it that there's an internal co...
I think there is a cooldown and that's what the localization confuser effects
dusky solar
Then during the drop cooldown assault another base
honest acorn
I've seen pretty hellish multiple breaches with multiple patrols
But there is some kind of cooldown
dusky solar
I might have to try that on bug nests sometimes in a group
One person triggers a breach somewhere far away then everyone assaults the nest
See if it works
honest acorn
I think the breach CD is per "group"
so someone 75+ meters away causing a breach doesn't change what happens near you
(These widened running battles are the death spiral imo)
stoic lotus
I figured it worked kind of like the eagle at higher difficulties, where there was a short cooldown between breaches and then once you had a certain amount it triggered the long cooldown
but it equally may well be per group
honest acorn
I've done a bunch of missions as 2 pairs and we both got breaches pretty often so I think it's per group
I know patrol spawns are so it makes sense to me
dusky solar
Hmmmmmmm yeah
supple siren
And then there's the Booster that increases time between them by some mysterious amount
dusky solar
That would square with the bot strat too
Because we'd stay in one group and snipe
It's really good with spear vs bots because popping fabs almost always causes a drop
So it was very "hm i can lock half the map from this hill, let's put the bot drop over there"
honest acorn
This person seems to think there is a cooldown and that its either a 40% or 10% boost
candid finch
Anyone fancy a Helldive in Hellmire? I'm in HORUS
honest acorn
I need to get some food first but I'm down
dusky solar
Yoooo they use the same strat
candid finch
2010-4730 code for anyone
honest acorn
I'm not sure if they're right about it but its worth trying
candid finch
<@&1206091872716595200> Down in HORUS if anyone fancies kicking some bugs
solid lagoon
0071-9558
candid finch
Sent
pastel igloo
lost my perfect farming spot 😔
oh well
i got one of the passes and farmed half of the other one so it shouldn't be too much hassle to find a new spot tomorrow and finish farming for the second one
candid finch
Using my head (as a platform)
pastel igloo
epic
blissful sparrow
i've done a RR reload team on top of a Mech before, was very funny
keen zinc
i've done a RR reload team on top of a Mech before, was very funny
Don't even need autocannon mech
We have Mecha Shiva
glacial light
I like how you pilot the mech laying on your stomach
Such democractic space efficiency
south temple
fuckin love bug missions
pastel igloo
Bug missions are infinitely more bearable when not at Helldive difficulty
south temple
i am the mobile infantry (stalwart fucking rips holy shit)
helped a level 10 do some missions in his like first week of playing lmao
keen zinc
I have said this
candid finch
We were going the heavy machine gun on top of the mech
keen zinc
The stalwart is the "get this shit off me" dream machine
south temple
like i am resolutely stalwart pilled now
candid finch
So mobile weapons platform
modest fiber
can't wait for the strategem that drops in troops
keen zinc
One billion hunters? Rip and tear
south temple
that was a fucking wild mission i was cutting through hordes like nothing
keen zinc
If things are going badly, you set your gun to maximum fuck and let er rip
south temple
kill 6 billion bugs with the power of BRRRRRR
having eats on standby is also way more bearable than i thought
south temple
the MG3 setting really is the savior of 7+ bug missions
i usually run it at 700 tho for ammo reasons
bet i could've gotten like a hundred more if i was at max
keen zinc
"Alright." Said the diver, calmly setting their Stalwart to 1150 RPM.
south temple
lock in mode
keen zinc
i usually run it at 700 tho for ammo reasons
700 for patrolling, 850 for when you forget to set it to 700, 1150 for when lots of things need to die fastly
south temple
yep
keen zinc
My name is Terminid Automatovsky and this game has ruined my life
pastel igloo
lmao
keen zinc
I think I'm gonna try out CE-Breaker, Punisher, Senator, Impact Grenades, Jump Pack, Stalwart, EAT-17s, and Precision Strike
In my mind this will answer all bug problems with adequate violence
modest fiber
south temple
I think I'm gonna try out CE-Breaker, Punisher, Senator, Impact Grenades, Jump P...
yeah that’ll do it pretty good in my experience
i like clusters for fun tho
keen zinc
Tbh I might run it instead of strike
south temple
it's extremely cathartic watching the skull counter go from 0 to like 20 in a single moment
hazy oriole
what do y'all stalwart enjoyers run to deal with Chargers and the like? Buddy of mine getting into the game has been struggling with them and is a big fan of the lil' MG, what should I reccomend for him to unlock?
kindred lintel
eats, recoiless, autocannon sentry, 110m eagle, quasar, flamthrower
idle hollow
railcannon is the go-to for all armour based issues
wind arrow
lmao that's a lot of support weapon to fight the stalwart slot
kindred lintel
stalwart isnt fit for high diffs
wind arrow
it's mentioned that the friend just started
i dunno if high diff is what they're shooting for
glacial light
Amko would disagree the man probably runs helldivers with stalwart
kindred lintel
which means that the ad problem isnt there, just use the primary
south temple
what do y'all stalwart enjoyers run to deal with Chargers and the like? Buddy of...
eats and slugger
kindred lintel
no doubt they do, but im almost always the one with more AT and more kills
slugger is like, page 6 of the warbond
glacial light
Railcannon and 110 rockets against bugs seem ok for chargers and titans, the latter usually won't one shot but that's why you have 3
hazy oriole
tbh since we prob aren't running higher than 7 or 6 anytime soon im wondering what I can bring to help him with those and jhust let him clear ads
kindred lintel
you can always bring something for them
candid finch
If I'm running something like Stalwart then I'll bring along the eagle missiles
targets things and good for armour breaks
glacial light
The power of teamwork is the division of labor and niche specializations as long as you stick together
keen zinc
what do y'all stalwart enjoyers run to deal with Chargers and the like? Buddy of...
Chutzpah
Impact Grenades
EAT-17s
hazy oriole
Chutzpah?
keen zinc
stalwart isnt fit for high diffs
Nah
Hunter remover of the highest rank
This allows your AT jockeys to stop crying when they get killed by the tunnel vision punishing bugs when they tunnel vision on a heavy
kindred lintel
damn my tunnel vision, killing the chargers in 3s 😢
keen zinc
And I killed the 300 hunters that were going to kill you in 1.5s
We are a team
We are a UNIT
Obviously the Stalwart isn't solo appropriate nor should everyone in a squad use it
One is good
But one is VERY VERY GOOD
Also the best part about EATs is you can use them when you need to and ditch em when you don't
And they provide an abundance of additional AT to your teammates
kindred lintel
honestly seems like a lot of cope but you do you
south temple
nah amko's cooking a bit
quick plinth
a bit???
south temple
stalwart is fantastic team support
glacial light
You can have overkill AT on bugs but harder to do overkill ad clear
Hunters are the most dangerous part of bugs
Inverse with bots, easy to overkill ad clear on bots but not AT
One person running full ad clear or 2 people running 1-2 ad clear stratagems on bugs makes it so much easier at high diffs
Napalm and airburst are goated at preventing reinforce loops by simply killing bugs before right when they get out of breaches
kindred lintel
I just use a napalm grenade
cobalt wing
candid finch
So, as a note, like, people are greatly anticipating the illuminate. And entirely reasonably. Looking forward to getting sniped in the head myself. But.
Have we considered the idea of a fourth enemy?
south temple
but who would it be?
rapid plover
it would have to be a totally new faction, so hard to say
candid finch
It's got to be appropriately satirical, and I can think of one idea but it's a little... dark? Or rather, cuts too close to the bone.
wind arrow
it would have to be a totally new faction, so hard to say
inb4 rebel humans
south temple
the only thing my mind goes to is the dissidents who are doing the broadcasting
meager sandal
just straight up the N'avi
south temple
that would be wild ngl
south temple
i just wanna kill random innie redshirts who have the same guns you do
that'd prolly step on the bot's toes a bit tho
wind arrow
oh yeah did arrowhead ever publicly state NO PVP?
south temple
i think so yeah
stone bridge
The CEO did, which is functionally the same as the company doing it
south temple
i feel like human enemies would prolly need to be modded arma levels of cracked to be a serious threat if they don't have numbers which is kinda an issue too
modest fiber
please to god no pvp
keen zinc
honestly seems like a lot of cope but you do you
I love hearing this amidst the cavalcade of "GOD HUNTERS ARE SO BULLSHIT"
south temple
please to god no pvp
the game's already got some toxicity it'll only get worse
wind arrow
yeah this game just doesn't feel like it's gonna be good for pvp
south temple
I love hearing this amidst the cavalcade of "***GOD*** HUNTERS ARE SO ***BULLSHI...
hunters are food for the space M249
modest fiber
yea no reason to add that into the mix
wind arrow
to me hunters are good senator practice
keen zinc
The venn diagram of people who diss ad clear weapons and think Hunters are unstoppably overpowered is a circle
south temple
The venn diagram of people who diss ad clear weapons and think Hunters are unsto...
yep
stone bridge
Hey can we chill in here please
keen zinc
It's a support weapon slot not an at weapon slot
stone bridge
Y'all getting kinda personal, relax
south temple
the worst they've gotten for me (as god's strongest AD clearer) is when i'm killing a hunter group and another kills me
modest fiber
hunters are anoying, but overpowered? i want what they are smoking
south temple
It's a support weapon slot not an at weapon slot
this is true and something i'm trying to get out of my head
after running the slugger on bots i've become complacent
south temple
Hey can we chill in here please
rog o7
pastel igloo
i'd simply point my gun at a hunter and shoot it
keen zinc
Like sometimes Hunters are gonna get ya, like Spy TF2 you cant ever be completely safe
pastel igloo
unlocked the Scythe today and it melts pretty much anything except the higher levels of bugs
keen zinc
But Stalwart is a great hunter b gone for a squad
pastel igloo
and i have my Autocannon for that
keen zinc
Sickle is gonna be great for you I think
pastel igloo
only thing i cannot kill are chargers
well i can but i have to use EAT
which i dislike doing
wind arrow
sickle quasar feels like an actual loadout to me...
stone bridge
AC can kill Chargers
south temple
it can???
pastel igloo
how
stone bridge
It takes 4-5 rounds to the butt
wind arrow
it can yes
unreal merlin
sickle quasar feels like an actual loadout to me...
It's extremely good as a pair
keen zinc
only thing i cannot kill are chargers
Are you attached to a specific backpack
south temple
Like sometimes Hunters are gonna get ya, like Spy TF2 you cant ever be completel...
it's just abt reducing everyone's chances of getting got
stone bridge
Then you leave them to bleed out after about 5 seconds
hexed steeple
if you hit the butt enough in the orange part it blows off and then it wobbles around and bleeds out
pastel igloo
Are you attached to a specific backpack
not even a little bit
keen zinc
Because RR can also one shot them, as can the Quasar
candid finch
Okay so this is my idea for a fourth faction, and it hits close to the bone for this level of satire.
People who have rebelled against Super Earth's rule and influence ||because they're not being fascist ENOUGH for these chumps. Literally have the situation where it's finally started to cannibalise itself. For once an actual bad faction, but it's BECAUSE Super Earth fosters these ideologies.||
wind arrow
damn that's cookin'
south temple
Okay so this is my idea for a fourth faction, and it hits close to the bone for ...
wait that's fucking based actually
pastel igloo
that could be neat
unreal merlin
Practice burst firing with the Sickle (3-4 shots, retarget, shoot, retarget) to really amp its ability to clear hordes of things
south temple
you're actually cooking with gas
pastel igloo
Because RR can also one shot them, as can the Quasar
RR?
keen zinc
Recoilless Rifle
pastel igloo
ah
stone bridge
I believe the armour desync glitch for Chargers is also still in the game, but that's finnicky and unreliable
meager sandal
Okay so this is my idea for a fourth faction, and it hits close to the bone for ...
fighting space south africa then?
pastel igloo
yeah i heard it works to kill them
i need to try it at some point
i do kinda like Autocannon tho
south temple
nothing i love more than turning fascists into glue and if that means killing rebels i'm so down
meager sandal
or well the Boers
keen zinc
It costs a backpack slot
south temple
the autocannon is an anti-everything weapon including personnel :)
candid finch
I'm sure there can be many inspirations.
unreal merlin
Honestly it's hard for me to go back after the power of oneshotting chargers with an EAT/quasar
keen zinc
RR is snappy because it requires no prep time like the EAT nor charge up like the quasar
meager sandal
AC is goated never have a problem with blight spewers again
keen zinc
It just has a slow reload
south temple
Honestly it's hard for me to go back after the power of oneshotting chargers wit...
the little delay on the eat is so satisfying
pastel igloo
i generally let my team deal with chargers
just kinda kill everything else with my Scythe and Autocannon
keen zinc
What grenades do you use?
pastel igloo
currently Impact
unreal merlin
Stun
keen zinc
Impact Grenades tossed under a chargers thorax can kill them good
Don't throw at their butt, throw under them
pastel igloo
interesting
unreal merlin
Often with grenade armor if I'm not running infiltrator armor
keen zinc
You want to hit the ground under their thorax
pastel igloo
good to know
heady halo
as for the fourth faction im gonna keep banging the horn of "evil shapeshifting aliens mimicking human form" that are OBVIOUSLY rebel humans super earth is lying about
like, using bio technology and cybernetics derived from both bugs and cyborgs so they have a bit of a broken up outline and non-super-earth weapons
modest fiber
honestly still running high ex
heady halo
but obviously not "aliens"
even if theyhave living bio crab armour and idk laser eyes
keen zinc
Chargers have a weak belly that cannot usually be hit but impacts thrown under them can do large damage
south temple
as for the fourth faction im gonna keep banging the horn of "evil shapeshifting ...
tbh i just want to paint the ground with autocannon-induced gibs
south temple
humanoid targets ideally ofc
unreal merlin
but obviously not "aliens"
THEY LOOK JUST LIKE US
keen zinc
High explosives can do it but require exact cooking
pastel igloo
just cause it explodes slightly quicker so you can open containers quicker
candid finch
My actual terrifying thought of human-style enemies and 'rebels' is the idea that one kills you and then... picks up your support weapon. NAd you have to worry about dropping shit.
south temple
My actual terrifying thought of human-style enemies and 'rebels' is the idea tha...
NO
keen zinc
The grenade needs t detonate under their thorax
south temple
DO NOT GIVE THE ENEMY A QUASAR
glacial light
THEY LOOK JUST LIKE US
So FYI the president said no PvP so we'll never have humans as enemies
heady halo
we have swarm enemy (terminids) squad/airdrop enemy (bots) and will have elite melee/sniper telaporting enemies (illuminate from first game), so what we obvs need is elite space marine enemies
heady halo
yeah my entire point is they dont have human weapons and arent just humans, they would be as different as the cyborgs who were humans
like 100% humans
but super earth lies and says they arent humans
but also thats fair amko
so i will cram it
south temple
I don't want to fight humans I
With human weapons in HD2
honestly fair
not rlly a way to make them balanced and fun
meager sandal
what about a hypercapitalist aliens like the Corpus
heady halo
unrelated to my idea, we do have human enemies atm
glacial light
The 4th faction is just Joel, 300000 Helldivers scouring all the planets on the hunt for one man as he spawns terminid/automaton/illuminate hybrids
keen zinc
just cause it explodes slightly quicker so you can open containers quicker
Impact Grenades are secretly AT grenades
glacial light
what about a hypercapitalist aliens like the Corpus
We're the hypercapitalist
south temple
what about a hypercapitalist aliens like the Corpus
no not the corpus get them away from me (i wanna fight grineer instead)
heady halo
those are just humans again
keen zinc
I have lost the plot of this conversation
south temple
those are just humans again
ah shit that's right huh
candid finch
Could be mutants, once humans who have been transformed due to the uncaring exposure of elements and chemicals from Super Earth. I want trucks. Basically I want one of the delivery processes to be a beat up pick up motoring across the landscape with a dozen dudes in the back
heady halo
do a tie in with deep rock galactic
WE FIGHTIN DWARVES
keen zinc
I'd rather not
south temple
The 4th faction is just Joel, 300000 Helldivers scouring all the planets on the ...
he's like the quantum moon, just keeps teleporting everywhere as soon as you look away
south temple
do a tie in with deep rock galactic
WE FIGHTIN DWARVES
not the leagues of votann 💀
keen zinc
I heard a good idea once for a silicates based lifeform. Rock/gem people
Who we are killing straight up for luxury gems for the hyper rich
candid finch
Mmmm, having like a rolling rock would be somewhat like a charger
Maybe laser like shots. Scouring bzzzzzt
heady halo
oh you know what would be fun too, aliens whose whole schtick is that they are like. super utopian high tech, unlike the weird libertarian meritocracy of the illuminate
keen zinc
I could see them being a very interesting faction that is high hp across the board, resistant to lasers and low caliber weapons, but are punished by explosive damage
heady halo
but super earth is like "these EVIL MONSTERS are using secret MIND CONTROL MESSAGES" but its just "please surrender, we do not have to fight, we will defend ourselves"
south temple
oh you know what would be fun too, aliens whose whole schtick is that they are l...
we should just go to war against the federation fr
heady halo
they come with a sub objective to activate audio blockers
god federation would be perfect
keen zinc
Unlike the Illuminate who have the shields to eat single shot high damage, and robots and bugs who you bring explosives for the armor piercing, these guys are just rockmen
heady halo
a load of aliens in spandex suits
south temple
they come with a sub objective to activate audio blockers
it's just a giant mad max speaker wall that plays the theme song
keen zinc
And are weak to big hits that chunkHP rather than being AP
alpine seal
oh thats a good pull actually
heady halo
thinking about damage types like that IS a good idea
keen zinc
Eh
alpine seal
that sounds like it'd have a lot of good design space
south temple
SEAF versus the covvies who wins (we do rahhhh)
keen zinc
Covenant totally blasts super earth are you joking
modest fiber
south temple
Covenant totally blasts super earth are you joking
yes lmao we'd get glassed in 5 minutes
heady halo
just like. a coalition of lesser known aliens
like, tau cross federation cross even more gundam aeug
keen zinc
Idk
heady halo
maybe with utopian biotech meat mechs
so they are vaulnrable to the big hp damage
not ap or explosive
keen zinc
A Generalist faction probably wouldn't feel right amongst 3 specialized factions
alpine seal
the other concept i hear occasionally is Making The Helldivers Dive Into, Like, Actual Hell From The Bible (Super Earth Did A DOOM 2016)
keen zinc
maybe with utopian biotech meat mechs
Tasty unum meat
south temple
basically the tau
mfw the stormsurge starts looking at me (10 devastators worth of missiles are ready to fire)
heady halo
could make them grey alien "we come in peace"
equally specialized, just visibly a couple of different bodytypes or even just faces
inside helmets
alpine seal
which is absolutely ridiculous and over the top and actually kind of plausible
heady halo
maybe make them centaur aliens, which has been real popular in xenobiological art for the last decade or so
keen zinc
The best ideas I've heard for factions is Mineral Men, Demons, and Grey Goo
heady halo
like someones earlier idea of "its just the navi", big meat mech centaurs with like, biological bows and natural weapons to lean into the utopian angle, so they have zerg creep but its trees
south temple
i mean we've got a horde, subversive, and i guess balanced? so a cannon or powerhouse would be the ideal, ergo, rock dudes
heady halo
thats why i like meat mechs
keen zinc
Grey Goo as an easy way to recycle content by having enemies that mimic different enemies of different factions
heady halo
big guy powerhouses without armour or shields
heady halo
Grey Goo as an easy way to recycle content by having enemies that mimic differen...
see that feels kinda like a copout tbh
its like the fighting game boss that just uses all hte other characters moves
alpine seal
third spitball idea is something cosmic horror angled, like archetypical tentacle guys
keen zinc
Rock Men are my favorite idea
heady halo
also i really want to fight a mech on foot as helldivers
like a gundam/mechwarior ass big mech the size of a bile titan
keen zinc
third spitball idea is something cosmic horror angled, like archetypical tentacl...
Eh, illuminate are like, half that and half space elf protoss magic men
heady halo
yeah they are like dagon fish elves
alpine seal
that's true actually
keen zinc
Illuminate cover a lot of bases
south temple
also i really want to fight a mech on foot as helldivers
let me take down an titan PLEASE
keen zinc
All the HD factions cover bases very well
civic apex
keen zinc
also i really want to fight a mech on foot as helldivers
Automatons eventually
heady halo
like a gundam/mechwarior ass big mech the size of a bile titan
(but it couldnt just be reggo mechs because thats just automatons and the factory strider, ergo, meat mechs. evangelion ass fuckers)
based on the last game their big mech guy is prolly gonna be a big tank
keen zinc
Any fourth faction has to not only have a unique way to fight them, but also have a unique strength
Big mechs is the Automatons thing
south temple
i feel like the obvious solution is no fourth faction, sad as it may be
honest acorn
So, as a note, like, people are greatly anticipating the illuminate. And entirel...
I always assumed illuminate would be at the bottom haha
keen zinc
Mineral Men stand out in my mind as they could be a fun terrain based enemy
alpine seal
the great galactic map is positioned enough that it could reasonably have either 3 or 4 opponents
and that's definitely by design
have enough wiggle room to decide whether it'll come
keen zinc
Like, for example
heady halo
honestly, they could even easily move the factions around pretty easy with each war
like having automatons come from cyberstan next time
keen zinc
A large crystal big guy but as you break him apart, the chunks are also enemies
heady halo
and terminids could pop up ANYWHERE from oil farms
alpine seal
it depends on where the illuminare come from, since i doubt a hypothetical fourth faction would take the top like the map shows
oh that's also true
keen zinc
Rockmen provide a very interesting idea since the handwaive of "biogeology I don't have to explain shit"
alpine seal
i have no doubt there will be A cyberstan automaton event
south temple
i have no doubt there will be A cyberstan automaton event
god urban warfare please please
keen zinc
Rockmen could also be a fun low velocity projectile faction
alpine seal
not a clue when it'll be but it's definitely coming
azure pewter
Mars turns sentient and created the rock fellas
keen zinc
Magneto nonsense
honest acorn
Rock/crystal enemies seem neat
heady halo
it depends on where the illuminare come from, since i doubt a hypothetical fourt...
if the illuminate are invading from outside the galaxy, they could really come from anywhere
alpine seal
if it's within the week i'm afraid cyberstan will be a generic planet though
keen zinc
It's the only area I don't see having major overlap with existing factions
Amongst possibilities of new factions
Stellaris lithoids
alpine seal
it's just fori prime as it stands right now
keen zinc
Whom we are killing out of a desire for gemstones out of pure luxury with full evil genocidal intent as less of them makes the gems rarer and more valuable
But they're rockmen and thus can easily be resurgent as many times as needed because underground is big
It provides sufficient room for the game to play in
heady halo
a biological grey goo could be fun too
like, another way of playing with the terrain
growing over the map like a gross resident evil thing
and you have to burn it back or it can spawn enemies anywhere
azure pewter
Dead space necromorphs berhaps could be fun, kind similar to bugs in attack plan tho
keen zinc
Actual Necromancy could be funny
heady halo
so the bigger area you have of the like, grey goo/meat trees, the bigger/tougher enemies can spawn
like a reverse of the illuminates telaporting in schtick
obvs not like 1 to 1, but with meat cable infrastructure conecting areas that you have to cut
azure pewter
Actual Necromancy could be funny
Lemme use artillery against generic skeleton archers
south temple
Dead space necromorphs berhaps could be fun, kind similar to bugs in attack plan...
the OG fast slashers would be hilarious to fight in hordes
twitchy twitchy
heady halo
im looking at some illuminate footage from the first game and they are weird
like, looking at how they actually fight, telaporting stuff in? its less protoss more necrons
with one big "monolith" spawning lesser enemies
super different to fight
alpine seal
just a fantasy themed enemy would be so ridiculous and almost fitting since what other space do you fill at that point
heady halo
compared to bug hole swarms and bot bases and patrols
south temple
shit that actually reminds me i should get the dead space remake now tht i have money
alpine seal
too generalist to be feasible but very funny
south temple
like, looking at how they actually fight, telaporting stuff in? its less protoss...
necrons would actually be really fun
(i am biased towards necrons so bad)
heady halo
necrons would actually be really fun
no like thats what the illuminate are
honest acorn
like, looking at how they actually fight, telaporting stuff in? its less protoss...
Yeah that’s reasonable - they aren’t super Protoss-like
trail nymph
shit that actually reminds me i should get the dead space remake now tht i have ...
It’s really really good
heady halo
they have a big obelisk unit that spawns in chunkey hordes that can be shieled and big lords with healthbars and magic powers and commands
honest acorn
Outside of like… having energy shields
keen zinc
Enemy elite
south temple
It’s really really good
i've been meaning to play it and re4 for a while
azure pewter
Enemy elite
Rock frog
heady halo
...oh shit, theres an obvious one
keen zinc
Idk mineral based life has always been an interesting idea to me
trail nymph
i've been meaning to play it and re4 for a while
As remakes go I rate it 10/10
heady halo
xenomorphs
keen zinc
Terminids
heady halo
a wayland utani cross umbrulla faction
south temple
xenomorphs
doesn't that fall under hordes?
keen zinc
If a fourth faction is gonna fit in, it can't shoulder in on another factions Thing
heady halo
but they are so scarey and dangerous you dont need many
and my point wasnt that the aliens are the faction
its the company making bio horrors
south temple
a wayland utani cross umbrulla faction
having a human-ish core with xeno auxiliaries would be sick but also tread too far over the faction lines
alpine seal
[LEAK SPOILERS] ||the new illuminate are taking a lot of hr giger cues, so i think that's yet another base they're covering||
heady halo
my thought was more.....
heady halo
varied i think
honest acorn
Yeah iirc
trail nymph
my thought was more.....
Would explain where all the bits of dead helldivers go
south temple
[LEAK SPOILERS] ||the new illuminate are taking a lot of hr giger cues, so i thi...
this is true they're very biomechanical which makes the deranged gigerpilled part of me very excited
i hope they're extra icky
heady halo
theres spoiler images that are said to come from the files if u wanna find em
easy to find on ticktok
posted here a couple times
but completly unconfirmed
south temple
the leak sub has a ton of them afaik
pastel igloo
all enemies of super earth will die no matter how weird they look
but they do say variety is the spice of life so it'll perhaps make things more interesting
heady halo
oh, and speaking of things current enemies dont do
another fun one would be any enemy that brings a more urban enviroment
rather than just forts/bunkers with a couple trenches and the odd couple of small houses
keen zinc
The idea of Rockmen is really running wild in my brain rn
south temple
another fun one would be any enemy that brings a more urban enviroment
god please i want to fight in a big fuckoff city so bad
pastel igloo
that would be sick as fuck
keen zinc
Not being particularly well armored but having damage reductions to certain damage types and being general vulnerable to high bursts of explosive damage
south temple
let me duel illuminate snipers in bombed out city squares pleaaaaase arrowhead
heady halo
faction that fights like urban warfare style
and achieves this by airdropping entire cities on top of you as you fight
keen zinc
Oh that gives me the BEST idea
keen zinc
New enemy faction: Dahir Insaat
heady halo
alien ai that survived the death of its world, and reanimates cyborg clone soldiers, airdropping them in cities
honest acorn
I would like to see them come back
south temple
faction that fights like urban warfare style
and achieves this by airdropping en...
helldivers when a skyscraper gets mac cannoned into the ground:
keen zinc
New enemy faction: Dahir Insaat
If you know you know
heady halo
like the fucking. 40k drop cathedrals but its an entire american block
honest acorn
let me duel illuminate snipers in bombed out city squares pleaaaaase arrowhead
You know now what you seek haha ||illuminate snipers could shoot through any cover||
heady halo
that could be fun, though the enemies would have to not be weird robots
south temple
like the fucking. 40k drop cathedrals but its an entire american block
complete with civilians too (nuketown dummies)
keen zinc
Cheap plastic venture capital pitch designs
south temple
You know now what you seek haha ||illuminate snipers could shoot through any cov...
GOOD I CRAVE GLORIOUS DEATH IN SERVICE OF SUPER EARTH
heady halo
....an ai but its an ai made by an alien umbrulla corporation going of past instructions. airdropping prefab cities and dhaar insaat mad robot creations for the service of a cloned cyborg zombie populace that slowly wanders around, more serving to get in your way like difficult terrain than actually swarming you
if you destroy too many structures or "civilian zombies" it starts spawning police units
except they are dhaar insaat police made by an alien umbrulla ai so its a load of like. weird meat things on monowheels that try to arrest you
they can have a capture gimmick
south temple
....an ai but its an ai made by an alien umbrulla corporation going of past inst...
1150 rpm difficult terrain clearer :)
heady halo
lol
like, some enemies can capture you rather than just killing you, arresting you and taking you to trial (the punishment is always execution so you respawn but it takes an extra little bit unless your allies free you)
keen zinc
No they put you in the Dahir Insaat earthquake bed
heady halo
lmao
keen zinc
Your team must free you
south temple
i feel like that's a level of complexity that'd be difficult to match w/ other factions (but this also fucks severely)
heady halo
it should probably kill you eventually so you cant just be left in there
keen zinc
I'm mostly shit posting
keen zinc
it should probably kill you eventually so you cant just be left in there
Just like the real thing
south temple
it should probably kill you eventually so you cant just be left in there
shakes you til you come apart ofc
keen zinc
Death by asphyxiation
heady halo
alternativly it could go a slightly different way
the enemy is REAL ESTATE SPECULATORS
south temple
NO
heady halo
coming in and developing a planet via airdrop
keen zinc
Grey Goo real estate development