#Helldivers 2: For Managed Democracy!

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forest crater
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The ones that run towards you and explode, that is.

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I already vaguely knew of the other

lethal badger
hazy oriole
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keep me posted on how this goes, i've been wondering lately if i'd enjoy having smokes as a way to spice up my bot loadout

dusky solar
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Nier Automata is 1000% worth a play sometime. One of the most fun games to contemplate on how people create meaning in their lives i've ever played.

lethal badger
dusky solar
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Whaaaat noooo nier automata is just about cute anime robots teehee~

glacial light
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You can't fool me the fanmade music video prepped me for a tragedy

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In like a good way

dusky solar
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It has some very satisfying character arcs lol

random socket
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terminid meteor ships

lethal badger
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I uh

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I have multiple Pinterest boards just for 9S/2B

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One is for gender goals

dusky solar
lethal badger
rare nymph
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Tibit is secure

pastel igloo
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Lets fucking go

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Another victory for Managed Democracy

wind arrow
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gonna be in HA divin' (currently doing dif4)

royal lantern
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Just unlocked the Dominator and I'm really enjoying it. In some respects it feels like a straight upgrade to the regular punisher, though it's slower to react to things right up in your face

glacial light
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0397-8522

lethal badger
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But this one might be a chance to spot a walker

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(:

glacial light
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I'm curious to see what would happen if we managed this major order and take out the automatons

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Probably just temporary but still

strange vine
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ive seen some story spoilers

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we very much are in the prologue of the story theyve planned lmao

burnt vapor
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Yeah we’re still waiting on the return of the squids so I expect we’ve yet to see any of the actually big story beats

burnt vapor
solid lagoon
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1724-8431

hot meadow
cerulean sluice
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anyone need another?

wind arrow
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8292-3835

keen zinc
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me mode

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be disrespectful

barren zephyr
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really want to see this armor set return in HD2

strange vine
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work progressing on the berserker, really happy with how the arm turned out

keen zinc
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<@&1206091872716595200> more soldiers for the cause

unkempt river
junior badge
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Another way to kill fabs that I learned recently:

EATs to the vent also work.
At least from far away with a relatively flat angle.

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In case anyone else didn't know that yet.

rich marlin
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is there a problem EATS can't solve

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if there is I don't wanna hear it, thats treason

unkempt river
unkempt river
stone bridge
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EATs is so damn good

junior badge
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Gotta try GL too, tbh.

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Plus, resupply in the vent also does it, since that's a hellpod.

stone bridge
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GL can absolutely kill fabs

junior badge
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Gives us a decent amount of flexibility, I think. Sure, grenades and airstrikes or similar are still the easiest way, but we're not actually forced to bring those, necessarily.

hexed steeple
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i think autocannon is easier than nades tbh. you can do it from insane ranges

graceful bluff
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I mean if you want range nothing really beats the quasar

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unkempt river
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Quasar? Nah, that's a Sun Shooter

junior badge
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Quasar does have a bit of a minimum range / the angle can't be too steep, but much easier than AC.

unkempt river
strange vine
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yeah with AC you riccochet the shot in via the vent flap

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ive sniped fabs from like 200+ meters with AC

unkempt river
hexed steeple
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the autocannon is a type of sniper if you’re cool about it

junior badge
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Again, at long range I've found it easy, but as soon as I'm within... 30ish meters, I've yet to manage with the AC.

strange vine
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again, shoot the vent flap

unkempt river
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Odd, I've literally never had an issue.

strange vine
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its guaranteed kill

junior badge
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Yes, I've tried that - though previously I was told to hit the middle of the vent, so that's probably it.

unkempt river
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Yeah, you've got to hit closer to the top in order to kill it within about 30m

junior badge
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Still, grenades are the easiest way to do it once you're right there, together with stratagems.

Which is all I'm saying, really.

unkempt river
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??? Wild.

strange vine
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nah i run impacts, i can get them in the vents but it sometimes takes a few tries

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eagle airstriking the fabs is a mainstay but sometimes i want to save those

unkempt river
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I mean, Strats, yes, 'nades? I might be out of practice (#impactpilled) but there's a serious chance of it bouncing

glacial light
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My personal ease list is support weapon if you got an angle, stratagems if within 70m then I do a dive toss, then grenade if I need to be closer than 30m and out of everything

unkempt river
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#quasarpilledbasekiller

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stone bridge
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The grenade pistol will be a godsend for em

glacial light
hexed steeple
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lmso

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oh right the shield got buffs didn’t it

glacial light
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Oh yes it can survive several direct shots from a rocket

tall stone
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Man, Hellmire is in trouble over in Terminid Space.

cobalt patrol
dusky solar
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i am soooooo excited for grenade pistol

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tonight i tested smoke nades vs bot 9s btw

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it felt good?

glad marsh
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See

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I really

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Really

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REALLY

dusky solar
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i also tested arc thrower and it was hiiiiiiiiilllllaaarrrrriiiioooouuuuuussssss

glad marsh
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Like the thermite grenades

meager saffron
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arc thrower staggering hulks even on chain hit is

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insane

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why can it do that

glad marsh
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It WHAT

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That's

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Huh

dusky solar
meager saffron
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I mean it should be

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as an arc thrower fifth column

dusky solar
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because if they had nerfed it by 40% dps and the range and given it the stagger it would kind of be mid

honest acorn
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Arc thrower stagger is wild now

dusky solar
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but the nerf was only 20%

honest acorn
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Yeah it unironically needs it

dusky solar
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cuz they removed the fast charge but buffed the base charge

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which i didn't realize initially

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so i thought they just wayyyyy overnerfed the dps

honest acorn
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The damage nerf and RoF fix really hit it hard, and then losing 15 meters of range

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And it’s still good

dusky solar
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yeah, i think the stagger is what saves it now

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though the OTHER thing i tried the last few days vs bots is just running no support weapon

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it's Just Good

glad marsh
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It works sometimes

honest acorn
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It’s pretty decent imo

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Requires some bravery

dusky solar
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on blitzes specifically i think it might be optimal?

glad marsh
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Having so many strikes is big

meager saffron
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EAT gamin

dusky solar
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i don't know about other modes

hot meadow
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sometimes it's nicer to just drop a million eagles on them

dusky solar
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but blitzes for sure it's very good

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i was orb rail, orb laser, 380

meager saffron
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yeah for blitzes you can afford to frontload all your power within the first 7 minutes

glad marsh
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I think it's gonna be even better when we get the new warbond, having AT grenades will be great

dusky solar
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i have started running up to the enemy spawns at extract to make sure the 380 placement is extra precise and about 70% of the time it's really good

glad marsh
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As well as a portable flak gun

honest acorn
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I really like the GL for blitzes

dusky solar
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bug blitzes especially imo

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jetpack GL is like, the most dopamine build

honest acorn
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Since it lets you stay very mobile and allows you to pop fabs/nests well

dusky solar
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lol i've also taken to throwing resupps at bot fabs now

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esp if i'm good on ammo and stims and won't need it but there's a light base?

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yeet

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*only on blitzes

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i'm excited for the grenade pistol

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slightly nervous to lose the redeemer vs fucking berserkers

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it reloads so fast and kills so fast

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ALSO the light armor currently in the warbond shop with 50% explosive resist is cracked vs bots and i highly recommend anyone reading this with the spare SC to pick it up

honest acorn
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Yeah grenade pistol is gonna be ace

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I barely use my secondary so I’m pretty willing to go for a utility pick

stone bridge
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Same

dusky solar
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i wonder if we'll get new stratagems with the warbond

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i haven't been keeping track of leaks in a serious manner, but i also haven't heard anything about the next batch of strats

honest acorn
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My guess is no

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Last time they released them 2 weeks after the warbond with little warning

glad marsh
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We seem to get a stratagem or two every month or so, but they've never been released alongside a warbond yeah

honest acorn
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I’m guessing that will remain the case with a staggered warbond then strategem schedule

glad marsh
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There are so many leaked strats though, it could be so many things

honest acorn
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Yeah

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Hoping for missile silo

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My gut feeling is missile silo and air burst rocket

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But I have no particular evidence for that

shy prairie
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Mm got most kills with ballistic shield and no support weapon

dusky solar
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Ballistic shield is going to be fantastic with defender/grenade pistol post-patch

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Assuming grenade pistol is one handed

junior badge
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My feeling is Airburst and AA-Eagle.

dusky solar
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ohhhhh this makes so much sense

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i don't think it's necessary and i don't really want to do it

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but

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there IS a reason to kill fabs and bug holes

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tldw:

  1. everyone has a 75m bubble around them. Any overlapping bubbles are considered the same "group" of players for spawning patrols near
  2. patrols can't spawn inside your 75m bubble
  3. patrols either spawn on a point between you and a fab/bug hole, OR 10m outside the nearest map edge if all fabs/bug holes are destroyed
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Thus, if you destroy all fabs/bug holes, make a player group on extract, and position one person to extend their bubble 10m outside the map border (65m from map edge), you can invalidate the only spawn criteria for enemies and have a peaceful extract

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I hope they patch this cuz that's realllllllly not fun lol

merry cosmos
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15 Billion dead fascists

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What a time to be alive

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Also we need the tato back

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(Lazer smg)

dusky solar
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Defender riot shield really warps your playstyle a lot. You have to focus rocket devs very quickly or you lose your build's main value. I'm not sure how much i like it especially because it suffers vs walkers. Hm.

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Grenade pistol will probably make it a lot better when you can just slap striders and you have a lot more ammo

royal lantern
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How is the mech doing these days? I don't see many people take it and then only in the extermination missions where you're in a really tiny arena

meager saffron
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a lot less likely to die from being clipped by a devastator

quick plinth
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since it turns out rocket damage was getting applied multiple times

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they fixed that

dusky solar
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It's great vs bugs especially

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You have to learn the yolo aim for the rockets though

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It's very "feel" based

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I personally always bring it on bug missions in case of dropping near a shrieker nest.

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One mech can level the nest and clear hordes

meager saffron
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yeah rockets are highly applicable to bugs as are the gatlings

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being able to solo a heavy nest without many other strats, or not devoting as many slots as the gl+jetpack+light armor combo is reaaaaal nice

dusky solar
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Soon as we get the mech with quad 40mm we'll be able to play mechwarrior

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"Do i want the rifleman or the urbie..."

meager saffron
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i already want to poptart with the quasar

royal lantern
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I'll have to give it a try once this bot campaign push is done then, I'm really been avoiding bugs and this has been an excuse because I've found them comparatively very frustrating to fight

noble shuttle
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tbh bugs aren't as much of a headache once you have a medium armor pen weapon you like

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or a flamethrower

blissful sparrow
royal lantern
noble shuttle
dusky solar
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Veagle is the most anime mech in battletech

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Including the LAMs

hexed steeple
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mama mia

naive dragon
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I hope the illuminates are fun

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sadcowboy I'm going to miss fighting bots

hollow plover
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I hope you're looking forwards to inverted controls!

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Cuz' that's what we're getting

pastel igloo
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I'm certainly not

hexed steeple
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i will adapt i got what it takes

naive dragon
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They spent all that time on bugs and then looked over to my favorite faction and went "what if we speedrun your content"

hollow plover
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Built Different
(within patriotic parameters)

royal lantern
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The illuminates making you plug your keyboard and mouse in to different USB slots like Psycho Mantis

naive dragon
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I will single-handedly start a rebellion on Cyberstan

royal lantern
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I can honestly seem them pulling having the galaxy map zoom out a little to reveal how fucked super earth really is

hollow plover
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The western war was a diversion to conceal the automatons' crack team of socialist spec-ops infiltrating Cyberstan's security aparatus

naive dragon
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Giving me hope

keen zinc
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The Automatons are not gonna be wiped out

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My prediction is map expansion, Illuminate invasion, TCS failure, automaton stealth fleet arriving at Cyberstan

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They're Automatons, they could've built a massive fleet and just sent it coasting at Cyberstan 50 years ago and all this has been a diversion

heady halo
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i just realised helldivers 2 is an mmo

naive dragon
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šŸ¤” You know, you're not wrong

keen zinc
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An MMO where the only gameplay is 4 player instances

naive dragon
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Imagine my framrate with 30+ helldivers all calling in 500kg bombs

keen zinc
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Imagine your freedomrate

naive dragon
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"Democracy officer, his freedoms per second are way too high!"

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"He can't fucking see"

blissful sparrow
naive dragon
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Don't remind me

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I had so many hopes for that game

blissful sparrow
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it gave me my profile picture and about 5000 hours of playtime, so i'm happy

sour whale
craggy lagoon
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Every game is an "mmo", or rather, they've all incorporated mmo elements

keen zinc
heady halo
undone veldt
keen zinc
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Every game is a deckbuilder if you don't think about it

glacial light
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I never think

glacial light
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Also trying to destroy fabs with the rocket is very annoying

pastel igloo
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as soon as i unlock it i'm going to use it immediately just for the sheer badassery of a Mech

glacial light
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I try to always bring it to bugs

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Being able to solo clear a heavy nest always feels good

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And if you wear heavy armor it mitigates the slowness as I believe a mech is as fast as a sprinting helldiver despite looking slow

cobalt patrol
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While it's very much Not For Me, I always appreciate having a mech user on team

pastel igloo
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as an average mecha fan i am legally and morally obligated to pick the mech

glacial light
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I'm on the fence with bots for it, but being able to charge headfirst into a jammer or AA without fear is great since you don't need stratagems

pastel igloo
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bringing in the 500kg, eagle cluster, Autocannon and Mech

junior badge
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I know why it's a bad idea, but I still want a mech that's laser cannon / quasar cannon

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Endless reserves!

glacial light
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I still want an armored core/Fencer mech that has dash boosters and a melee weapon with a tower shield

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Or a dodge roll exoskeleton or jetboosters and that let you dash step and make it dark souls

cerulean sluice
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I honestly just want one where both weapons can break Striders

keen zinc
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A mech on a team is nice

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Cuz it's something you can rally around

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It's a mobile hard point for the squad

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Empty magazines and need to heal? Go run behind the mech and formulate your plan

heady halo
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one of its other vs bots is serviing as a distraction and additional health, even out of ammo you can leave it in a narrow gap or infront of a patrol and bots will attack it rather than walk around, bots will focus on it rather than you

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like amko says its also fantastic moveable cover, and you can jump out and use your own mech as cover to throw down stratagems

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i want a fastmech for moving quickly over terrain wheels cant cover, and an anti air/anti heavy laser mech ballanced by both weapons being quasers, so its SO slow against infantry

cobalt patrol
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Oh shit, ride back, that's a blast from the past

glacial light
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Fast power armor that works like a mech would also be sick

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Give me a fast power armor powered by AA batteries but makes me feel like a speed demon

glacial light
keen zinc
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Elemental suits from MechWarrior

noble shuttle
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that's a weird looking Caliban

glad marsh
keen zinc
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One good thing about a Sunday-Wednesday work week is the content drops happen on my Saturday

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The BR got me kinda hype ngl

azure pewter
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Similar with my weird fucky 2 on 2 off 1 long day schedule

pastel igloo
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i spent all my super dollars on buying heavy armor so i won't be able to buy the back prolly unless i do a bunch of farming

keen zinc
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Grenade pistol cool but a solid medium range medium pen battle rifle

pastel igloo
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i'm probably going to be doing farming later today for that reason

keen zinc
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Got a few days for trivial berrypicking

pastel igloo
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i have like 130 super credits i think?

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need to farm lots

keen zinc
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I have 2000+ pain

pastel igloo
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daaaamn

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how you get so many?

keen zinc
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I play a lot

pastel igloo
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fair

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i got the game 4 days ago so i haven't had time to play much yet

keen zinc
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This game basically hits me in all da right ways

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I love being faceless cannon fodder

pastel igloo
keen zinc
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A little inzane

pastel igloo
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i have 16 hours so far

candid finch
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What you got left amko?

keen zinc
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Infinite

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@merry cosmos

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Just so you know what kinda lunatic I be

candid finch
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Oh I meant achievements but nah I getchu

pastel igloo
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holy shit

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Durgen is 80% liberated

keen zinc
merry cosmos
candid finch
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Fair fair. And God I feel the harder we push back the automatons the harder Joel rubs his hands and plots

keen zinc
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This number does not represent my total amount of time playing NV, I played it a LOT on PS3 and on a different steam account

pastel igloo
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i feel like with how the map is looking rn

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we are going to be witnessing a MAJOR reversal

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because otherwise we are just going to like

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win?

stoic lotus
keen zinc
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New Vegas is my Formative Gaming Experience

pastel igloo
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at this pace we will absolutely drive the automatons off the map

keen zinc
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Illuminate inc

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No shot that they don't hit us

idle hollow
pastel igloo
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no

idle hollow
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you push the borgs/bugs/squids back to their homeworld and they're gone until a new war starts

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or they push super earth back to super earth

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and if you cant defend super earth you lose the campaign

keen zinc
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I doubt we're gonna have a war end so early

pastel igloo
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yeah

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that's my thing

keen zinc
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They're gonna do something so we can have all three factions at once

pastel igloo
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some kind of reversal is going to happen i think

idle hollow
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durgen is like

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82%

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~5 hours left

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we are 100% wiping out the bots

merry cosmos
pastel igloo
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this major order will be completed

idle hollow
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yea

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for now

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inb4 they're like necrons and have underground vaults full of robots ready to start the war again

candid finch
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I can't help but imagine the map zooms out a little and it's like that horror tyranid scene

pastel igloo
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that would be cool

candid finch
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Just basically "well done you chipped a tooth on the behemoth".

keen zinc
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The map is going to expand and the Bots are going to be a giant wedge pointed towards Cyberstan

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And the Reclamation will begin

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And the Illuminate will invade

idle hollow
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god i hope the siege tank comes back

keen zinc
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And the TCS will fail

idle hollow
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that thing is literally a terminator H-K tank

keen zinc
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Siege Mech*

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Remember, there is a guy in there

idle hollow
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yeah i had tank on the brain

keen zinc
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Scariest thing about the siege Mech was that there is a very human mind directing this mass of metal and gun

idle hollow
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also the Hive Lord and Great Eye

keen zinc
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Deep inside there is a man

stoic lotus
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amko you know there is a guy driving a tank too right

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they're not robots

idle hollow
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there's dead hivelord corpses lying around bug planets too

keen zinc
stoic lotus
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you just said it's scary that there's a guy inside it

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and that that makes it a mech not a tank

idle hollow
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i really doubt they have a trooper in the tank tbh

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im guessing it's just like

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they stick an automaton brain in there

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i see no hatch for them to get in and out of

keen zinc
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More than it's a gigantic machine with massive guns but it is the "body" of a human mind directing all of it, it's not a vehicle, it's them

idle hollow
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like, uh, a machine spirit from 40k (see: AI)

glad marsh
pastel igloo
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farming super credits also gets me medals and samples at a

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not awful rate

merry cosmos
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I think that's just a Tank AC

cobalt patrol
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Aww, that was nice

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randos who brougth autocannon

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and team reloaded me all the time

blissful sparrow
keen zinc
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The fact the squat is a victory pose and not and emote is a crime

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Let me squat to assert dominance as a fabricator explodes

cobalt patrol
keen zinc
cobalt patrol
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Muaahahah, i love seeing my kills being higher than the total of everyone elses

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Just ignore the friendly fire damage, hellbomb happened.

pastel igloo
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saving up for Expanded Weapons bay is going well

keen zinc
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It's well worf it

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5 cluster bombs is life

pastel igloo
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got 90 common samples, so i just need 40 more rare and 7 of the purple ones

pastel igloo
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ran a quick mission on Durgen just to have been there

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unsure if it'll already be liberated by the time i show up later

runic cairn
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<@&1206091872716595200> divers in chat

candid finch
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"I was there"
"Like once"
"BUT I was there"

lethal badger
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AUTOMATONS WILL BE WIPED OUT BY 1 PM

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Prediction

pastel igloo
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i was on Malevelon once too

candid finch
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I was running tibit, jungle planets are horrible

pastel igloo
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played it on my Brothers account cause he had to go do something and he was at the extract

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i only died once

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and we managed to extract

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literally had no idea what i was doing but i managed

candid finch
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Better than my runs on the creek

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I got frickin ate up more than once

cobalt patrol
candid finch
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I love the creek becoming this symbol

pastel igloo
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i wish i could have gotten the cape

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i joined in a day too late

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šŸ˜”

candid finch
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What was the necessity for the Cape?

pastel igloo
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i don't think there was a requirement

candid finch
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I probably don't have it I only had a few runs

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Ahhh

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Maybe I do have it

pastel igloo
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i just joined in like the day after it was given to people

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i think everyone who played got it

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iirc

candid finch
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Man these devs are nuts

pastel igloo
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?

keen zinc
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I think everyone gets it no matter what

candid finch
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Just like producing so much so regularly, engaging super well, having regular item outputs, embracing player memes like the creek becoming this big thing and playing in it

pastel igloo
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i don't have it tho

candid finch
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Considering my other four player vs ai game before this was darktide the difference in support between the games is massive

pastel igloo
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yeah

cobalt patrol
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it's a really impressive thing

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I've been enjoying Alexus's posts over on the main discord, where he talks about balance and why

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(use the From:Alexus | bringer of balance)

candid finch
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Oh that's good to hear

keen zinc
cobalt patrol
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Eg, his current take on Team-reloads.

"I'd say that the assisted reload is in line with our design philosophy. The cost is great, but you turn into a rocket turret for a moment. The biggest issue I see with it is ammo, you just spend it in seconds, that's not even worth the effort sometimes. That's difficult thing to solve, and we have some ideas how to do that, but it's not the most urgent thing at the moment

On the other hand, it's fine if some mechanics are there just for lulz and roleplay"

candid finch
cobalt patrol
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Honestly, other than the backpack awkwardness (which has pros and cons in it's current state), i thin kteam reloads are pretty healthy

pastel igloo
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i bought the game on the 3rd

cobalt patrol
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the ammo is an issue ,but you cget to Wreak So Much Shit

pastel igloo
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so i think i just barely missed the cutoff

cobalt patrol
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Or this comment in regardess to the Slugger damage nerf, which is the sort of thinking i like to see from devs

keen zinc
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Double my TTK daddy

candid finch
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Is the Creek one the Fallen Hero's cape?

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it is a sick frickin cape

keen zinc
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Yeah

cobalt patrol
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I've been wearing it because i just really enjoy fighting on the Creek

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spoopy blue jungle is a great time

keen zinc
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But it'll be hard to replace the Mantle of True Citizenship for me

pastel igloo
#

i'm definitely considering upgrading to become a super citizen rn

#

games just super fun

#

supporting it more would be good

cobalt patrol
#

It's genuinely impressive how fun it is from the word go

#

and how fun it stays

#

I am nearly 350 hours in >.> and like it hanst got boring at all

#

The mission/op structure is real comfy too

keen zinc
#

Agreed

cobalt patrol
#

The procedural generation is incredibly impressive too, the maps are always very natural feeling, while being interesting to fight on.

The use of PoIs and bases as fixed arenas is ingenious.
And the build crafting in this game is satisfyingly deep without being obnoxious - you have a basic set of goals to meet with a build

(Chaff, heavies, bases - how do you solve these?) And a wealth of ways to tackle it. Which expands dramatically when you're with a team.

keen zinc
#

I wonder if this Thermite grenade is gonna make Engineering Kit more competitive with Medical Kit

#

Impact grenades are wonderful but the TR-117 armor is just a huge increase to survivability for me

glad marsh
#

if I can chuck a grenade at a hulk and kill it in one or two hits, I'd say yeah

#

being able to spawn with AT capability is big

keen zinc
#

Yeah

#

Going from 4 to 6 isn't a huge deal for some grenades

#

But if the Thermite is an efficient AT options, killing a Charger and Hulk in 2, then being able to kill 3 in one spawn is a massive death spiral stopper

mortal wing
#

So is some bs going down once last bot planet is liberated?

keen zinc
#

Most likely

glad marsh
#

look, if there are in fact more bots to liberate, I'm all for it

quick plinth
#

many guesses are on the cyberstan front being opened

#

or the illuminate showing up

#

though I'd say it's most likely the bugs get planted on planets closer to SE invade

glad marsh
#

hopefully we see a new bug or two

quick plinth
#

like a 50 30 20 split of likelihood
50 bugs
30 cyberstand
20 illuminate

mortal wing
#

oh no, bugs on mars

glad marsh
#

we've had 2 new bots, only 1 new bug

#

so

#

I have to wonder if they'll balance that out

mortal wing
graceful bluff
#

I already know the other bug they'll add and I'd prefer them not to yet :v

dusky solar
#

the impossible thing that i want the MOST out of HD2 is a multi-faction planet fight

#

bugs, bots, helldivers, and illuminate all duking it out

keen zinc
#

Watch the bugs actually evolve a way to travel planets

#

And Super Earths entire oil operation just goes tits up

graceful bluff
#

Instead of using it to invade further, they just fucking leave

glad marsh
#

<@&1206091872716595200> anyone around? (activity 1)

keen zinc
#

And keep them from escaping

tall stone
#

We're holding onto Hellmire by the skin of our teeth.

glacial light
pastel igloo
#

we need people defending against the bugs

heady halo
pastel igloo
#

would be fun

hazy oriole
#

I'll hop on the mire after lunch

glacial light
#

I think super private would be fun

#

I like we need to be like rank 100+ to be considered a regular private

keen zinc
#

Super Death Captain

hazy oriole
#

In the meantime, wanted to ask the Spear Enthusiasts in the chat if it's got any neat breakpoints
I've been messing around with it but can't seem to figure out any unique utility it has beyond "slightly farther fabricator sniping"

glad marsh
#

we're so bloody close y'all

stiff pine
#

until they fix the spear lockon I'm not using it

glad marsh
pastel igloo
#

lets goooooo

hazy oriole
#

Pretty sure I nailed a Hulk with it the other day and it shrugged it off

glad marsh
#

literally half the playerbase is on that one planet

#

more than that actually

#

fully 2 thirds at least

#

wait what

pastel igloo
#

?

keen zinc
#

Spear needs to be buffed

glad marsh
#

some poor divers got stuck behind the bug lines

keen zinc
#

Omicron was a mistake

#

They are trapped on that hive

#

God it's hilarious how badly we got smacked by the bugs the moment we touched their home sectors

pastel igloo
hazy oriole
#

Remember the Hellmire 26

pastel igloo
#

i did not realize that Severin was the only sector the automatons were currently holding

glad marsh
idle hollow
#

They’re almost gone

solid lagoon
#

7319-2071

pastel igloo
#

unfortunately that does mean the bugs are totally fucking us

#

because everyone is over in Severin

#

we're about to lose Mirin, though we have Draco at a good 39% at least

graceful bluff
#

It's a problem that hellmire is our bottleneck

#

cause no one wants to go there lol

pastel igloo
#

i mean 4 sectors still isn't a lot

heady halo
#

they should add termanid allied humans from the civilians left on termanid seeded worlds

#

humans who work out it was actually really simple to just live with termanids

#

and are like "oh this is way better than super earth"

idle hollow
#

Finally

graceful bluff
#

No everyone wanted to malevelon, no one wants hellmire :v

keen zinc
#

I love Hellmire

#

It is a jump packs paradise because the firenados don't go into high ground like rocks

idle hollow
#

It literally is Hell

keen zinc
#

I want it to suck more

idle hollow
#

I don’t think it has any supply lines at all

#

Just like malevelon

hot meadow
#

So as per chat I tried to vary it up on the automatons and it went pretty well!

pastel igloo
#

what is up with the supply lines shit anyway

hot meadow
#

I guess I hadn’t realized you could shoot devastators to death with some primaries tbh

pastel igloo
#

i heard about it but i have no idea how it is relevant

keen zinc
#

A classic image

stiff pine
#

and we can't fucking see it in game

idle hollow
stiff pine
#

which is A Design Decision

pastel igloo
#

bruh

#

yeah that's

#

kinda dumb

#

ngl

#

how do you see it then????

graceful bluff
#

enable supply lines in the top right of the map

graceful bluff
#

under the zoom button

keen zinc
#

More like All

stoic lotus
keen zinc
#

Like, devastators only have medium armor on their torso but everything else is light

#

They can be killed with anything but people act like they're bulletproof

#

Its puzzling

pastel igloo
#

ok so we have absolutely no in to Hellmire

#

i see

stoic lotus
#

do people act like that

#

I've never seen it

pastel igloo
#

but we do have supplies coming into Estanu and Crimsica

graceful bluff
#

Also joel totally isn't putting a finger on the scale of durgen :v

#

blue is progress red is playercount

stoic lotus
#

they're annoying because heavy devs can be hard to snipe the heads off of and rocket devs have a lot of damage and aim punch

idle hollow
#

Shoot the rocket pods for the rocket devastators

candid finch
#

I love that there's less that 2% of players over in bug areas

keen zinc
graceful bluff
#

The progress stayed somewhat consistent despite changing player count

idle hollow
#

They normally are destroyed but they do damage to them

keen zinc
#

Medium pen is nice for devs but not even close to necessary

pastel igloo
graceful bluff
#

yes

keen zinc
#

I mostly kill them with light armor pen weapons like the punisher or sickle

pastel igloo
#

i see

graceful bluff
#

Or rather, the drop in players should have lowered progress but it didn't

pastel igloo
#

oh yeah

#

that is a MASSIVE drop in players there with no appreciable effect on the progress of liberation

hot meadow
blissful sparrow
#

you can just headshot devs, their face is light armor

keen zinc
#

It's really not, it's the brute force way to deal with them but the best way is just precision

#

With the punisher you can stagger them and open up a clear shot to just pump their gut with lead

#

The head and the unarmored tummy are weak spots

#

The sickle is absurdly good at this because no recoil you just walk the shots onto their face and the high fire rate basically guarantees a kill

tall stone
#

I for one appreciate how accessible automaton weakpoints are.

burnt vapor
# graceful bluff Also joel totally isn't putting a finger on the scale of durgen :v

So that's not joel that's the scaling at work
This isn't hard confirmed but data shows that they have implemented liberation progress scaling vs total player count
So as the player count goes up the effect of each player is reduced and vice versa which is why the progress looks so smooth because while the total player count has risen or lowered the % of the playerbase has stayed consistent

heady halo
#

so it really DOES matter what gets focused on

#

more than just how many people are there

pastel igloo
#

oooh

#

cool

keen zinc
#

Yeah

burnt vapor
keen zinc
#

They don't want to have the actions of people be meaningless during low activity hours

burnt vapor
keen zinc
#

So it scales

pastel igloo
#

going to do a bit more farming for super credits

#

at 215 atm

#

doing it on durgen to help out

#

even if i am doing low level missions for farming purposes, every bit counts

oak crow
burnt vapor
#

It also makes it much simpler for them to plan how hard and how long liberation is since they have consistent output from the playerbase without huge spikes or dips

merry cosmos
pastel igloo
#

so close

keen zinc
#

Jesus christo

#

That's a lot of people

meager sandal
#

illuminate about to come in with that steel chair

muted burrow
#

we're gonna win!

keen zinc
#

And I'm at work

cerulean sluice
#

Nah, the cloaked fleets will go outside the edge of Super Earth’s known space and take Cyberstan

honest acorn
#

Good lord 300k on one planet

#

Shame I’m gonna be touching grass

keen zinc
#

Stuck at work

cobalt patrol
#

<@&1206091872716595200> get in loosers, we're going Helldiving.

keen zinc
keen zinc
rotund marten
#

finally, helldivng when I am in fact free

#

I haven't even seen a strider yet

stoic lotus
#

I'll make it 4 then

cobalt patrol
#

We arent voxing, or at least, i'm not @rotund marten

#

but it looks like everyone else is?

#

actually i think we have 4, so you will need to start a new group

stoic lotus
#

oh if you're with the 3 in vc then yeah

merry cosmos
#

Were actually gonna do this...

#

Godamm

stoic lotus
#

wanna hop in HORUS misc?

merry cosmos
#

Me?

stoic lotus
#

misc

cobalt patrol
#

You, misc and alex would be anotehr crew

stoic lotus
#

but you're welcome to join

dusky solar
#

The graph itself is tracking the wrong thing; if you just had it based on raw player count, every time NA went to bed the rest of the world would basically be watching every operation fail

pastel igloo
#

yeah

#

that makes sense

#

me and my singleplayer looting missions are contributing to the percentage bosssalute

dusky solar
#

Yeah, the normal way would be cooler but i like the inclusivity

#

Sometimes you get the ultra late night koreans

#

I've never seen any jp usernames

#

But a few korean ones

pastel igloo
#

going to keep farming a bit

#

almost at 300 super credits now

idle hollow
pastel igloo
muted burrow
#

:D

azure pewter
#

all gooped up

undone veldt
#

Ah

#

There’s the catch

pastel igloo
#

?

undone veldt
#

The liberation bar is stuck at 99%

#

It won’t go any farther

graceful bluff
#

It probably requires a manual button press at arrowhead

#

just in case of bugs

muted burrow
#

no bugs here

hollow plover
#

Or botting

heady halo
idle hollow
#

WE DID IT

muted burrow
#

:D

#

:D

pastel igloo
#

did we get it?

#

i'm in a mission

#

on Durgen no less

muted burrow
#

i did my part last night!

barren iron
#

EXCITING SHENANIGANS

#

EXCITED TO SEE JUST HOW IT GOES DOWN

muted burrow
#

will they have some cutscene

barren iron
#

would be cool

pastel igloo
#

40 super credits in this mission

#

lets go

muted burrow
#

how do they usually do big story beats/updates?

#

i am p new

muted burrow
barren iron
#

we dont know yet

#

it's not been done before like this

muted burrow
#

ah makes sense

heady halo
#

yeah the game is one month old and heldivers 1 didnt have them

barren iron
#

hd1 didn't really work the same as this does

muted burrow
#

also i read that hd1 was a bit different

barren iron
#

hd1 was purely liberation and decay and galactic wars were fairly quick

muted burrow
#

guess we'll see!

heady halo
#

yeah tho there was some lore. like how they lost the defense of earth and so went got a new earth

pastel igloo
#

extracting now!

idle hollow
pastel igloo
#

LETS GOOOOOO

heady halo
#

only 92????

pastel igloo
#

MANAGED DEMOCRACY IN ACTION

graceful bluff
#

because

heady halo
#

STANDIF BY

#

im gonna eat icecream

candid finch
#

FUCK

#

I'm going to go eat ice cream

pastel igloo
#

final mission on Durgen was hella lucrative

glacial light
#

No more bots only bugs

pastel igloo
#

got 9 samples and 50 super credits or smthn

candid finch
#

Heck yeah

#

.... we're so going to get destroyed for this aren't we?

merry cosmos
#

...We did it

pastel igloo
#

beautiful

dusk meadow
meager sandal
#

new bug mutations?

candid finch
#

I'm so looking forward to it

#

bigger badder better bots

meager sandal
#

or hoping it's the illuminate show up

candid finch
#

Maybe the illuminate

heady halo
#

bug / illegal broadcaster alliance

merry cosmos
#

Oh

dusk meadow
#

this is...

alpine seal
#

the order IS done, this was done in post

dusk meadow
#

Oh

hexed steeple
#

yayy more bots to fight

alpine seal
#

looks like this is the leadup to something that may happen in the future

dusk meadow
#

so we're really really going to get destroyed for this then

merry cosmos
candid finch
#

Call me an idiot but I love the moment of victory before everything goes so so wrong.

barren iron
#

I want to see just

candid finch
#

We're about to be red wedding'd

barren iron
#

GIANT

#

bots

pastel igloo
barren iron
#

like actually just massive

barren iron
#

give me a 40k titan that can only be killed with artillery and airstrikes

pastel igloo
#

is it an official site or what?

barren iron
#

not official but it's something you can see in the code iirc

pastel igloo
#

325 super credits

#

doing good

#

i guess i HAVE to fight the bugs now

glacial light
#

This is when they bring back the dogs from HD1 en masse

burnt vapor
blissful sparrow
#

we already have hunters

burnt vapor
#

I will fucking riot

alpine seal
#

No not the dogs

candid finch
#

The bugs don't know what's about to hit them

graceful bluff
merry cosmos
#

Now what

#

Take a big break and kill bugs for a while?

candid finch
#

Now we wait for the shoe to drop

muted burrow
pastel igloo
#

well

graceful bluff
pastel igloo
#

i guess i'm on bug duty now

graceful bluff
#

considering the time window, we'll probably see a big reveal tomorrow

alpine seal
#

give the bugs hell for a day or two before we inevitably start detecting slipspace ruptures in the west at -1000% per hour

graceful bluff
#

it was very much intended to finish late sunday(eu time)

pastel igloo
#

i have only fought the bugs like two times so far

#

so i am going to have to learn i guess

#

it is late on sunday eu time

candid finch
#

So bugs like stuff that can deal with crowds or heavy armour, so EATS and a shotgun, arc thrower with a missile eagle or orbital railgun

hollow plover
#

Later, eu sunday time

meager sandal
pastel igloo
#

source: i am swedish

alpine seal
#

generally more stratagems are good against bugs but less weapons are good against bugs

meager sandal
#

500kg bombs are importoant for the bile titans

alpine seal
#

precision weapons especially fall in favor of immediate close range damage

meager sandal
#

way more important for bugs than bots

candid finch
#

the airburst bombs are great for clearing hordes of bugs, and your own teammates

graceful bluff
alpine seal
#

though this is kind of weighted towards getting owned by a stalker so you can definitely survive with one aside from that case

candid finch
#

Note, I always find clearing nests a lot harder than clearing buildings

undone veldt
candid finch
#

God

blissful sparrow
#

On higher difficulties you can have like 20 bug holes in one nest, while even the heaviest bot base has like what, 3 fabricators?

graceful bluff
#

bug holes are hard because there's just more of them so you can't just yeet a 500 at a base

blissful sparrow
#

Air strike keep winning

graceful bluff
#

so it means you have to get in there with the moshpit

blissful sparrow
#

just need to be very strategic with your strike path

candid finch
#

Grenade launchers are great for clearing groups of bugs and then closing bug holes. You just have to worry about ammo

graceful bluff
#

grenade launcher supply backpack is just so comfy

kindred lintel
blissful sparrow
#

Autocannon also good vs bugs, can also close bugs, and its good vs all the mediums, just less agile than the GL

graceful bluff
glad marsh
#

we did it

#

bots are no more

stiff pine
#

Wow, I can't believe we won

#

With no repurcussions

#

😌

glad marsh
#

we'll never see them again Chadmancer

glacial light
#

As always there's never any consequences to our actions

barren iron
#

Imagine if they do this and then they just leave it like this forever

blissful sparrow
#

i am so sad that i'm on a 4 day business trip in a few hours and will miss The Consequencesā„¢ļø

barren iron
#

abandon development on the game and leave it with only three bug planets

#

with no new updates

#

after the warbond drops

glacial light
#

Noooo

kindred lintel
#

I can't get on soon, are there actually no more bot planets

barren iron
#

yeah

#

no more bot planets rn

honest acorn
#

Unqualified victory super earth eternal

quick plinth
#

welp

kindred lintel
#

Victory for me who doesn't like bots

quick plinth
#

time for something "unforseen" to happen

pastel igloo
#

i do not like fighting bugs

#

this sucks

#

i really don't get how people enjoy this more than automatons

barren iron
#

bugs are awesome

#

they run at you and you spray them down with a machine gun

#

then you get cut down by a fucking hunter

#

both automatons and bugs have their own brand of fucked up bullshit that annoys the hell out of you

quick plinth
#

what annoys me isn't the enemies

rough ravine
#

Is there a new major order?

quick plinth
#

its the random teammates

pastel igloo
#

what the hell do i do about the big ones that run at you

#

my bullets are just bouncing off

oblique lotus
#

eat-17 to the head

blissful sparrow
#

Thats not very specific

#

The very big ones? the medium big ones?

pastel igloo
#

i don't have whatever eat17 is

alpine seal
#

well we do have a swath of bug planets to go

oblique lotus
#

got a recoilless?

undone veldt
#

It’s the expandable anti tank support weapon

supple siren
#

Explosive rounds to the exposed backportion, air strikes, fire...

pastel igloo
#

i have an autocannon

undone veldt
#

It’s one of the first ones you unlock

alpine seal
#

so if the bots are gone for more than a day we at least have something to do

rough ravine
#

Yeah the oneoff shoulder rocket

undone veldt
blissful sparrow
#

Auto cannon kills a Charger in about 3 shots to the butt

barren iron
#

use an anti tank weapon

#

EAT-17s, Recoiless Rifle, Quasar

blissful sparrow
#

the only bug thing AC cannot kill is Bile titan

barren iron
#

yeah

heady halo
#

or flamethower

barren iron
#

I wouldn't say 3 shots

#

it's like 5-6

undone veldt
#

Or arc thrower

#

That works too

blissful sparrow
#

i just full auto into its butt, so i don't count the shells šŸ˜„

barren iron
#

I would say if your issue is chargers use the Recoilless

tall stone
#

I'm liking the Laser cannon myself.

undone veldt
tall stone
#

Just because of sheer sustainability.

barren iron
#

I am a certified recoilless rifle lover because killing chargers with it is maybe the most satisfying thing in the game

heady halo
#

i wonder how long the war gaps were in hd1

pastel igloo
#

ok yeah i am just not going to play any actual missions like this

#

i'm going back to farming super credits

supple siren
#

That's giving up insanely fast

undone veldt
#

What’s wrong with the missions?

barren iron
#

its your prerogative but I wouldn't dismiss half the game (or maybe 1/3 of the game if we get the illuminate soon)

supple siren
#

People are offering valid suggestions and just hit with "this is stupid actually"

oblique lotus
#

you can take much more aggressive positions against bugs since they mostly don't have ranged weapons

keen zinc
#

Did we win

barren iron
#

yes

#

the galaxy is secure

#

victory is established

oblique lotus
#

but you will need more horde clear imo

pastel igloo
barren iron
#

I feel like these first two months have actually been a preamble to the real galactic war

#

afaik we aren't actually officially in the second galactic war

undone veldt
hot meadow
keen zinc
#

Wear light armor

#

Throw grenades

cobalt patrol
#

Arc thrower and falmethrower also v. good into bugs

keen zinc
#

Identify status applicators for target priority

oblique lotus
#

the flamer is great

cobalt patrol
#

It flames and wurfs things and makes ahahahaha noises.

hot meadow
#

I use breaker incendiary, impact grenades, cluster, rover, quasar or eats, and air strike or rail cannon or a different support if I chose eats

barren iron
#

personally dont like quasar against chargers

supple siren
#

Breaker Incendiary is brutal now

barren iron
#

the chargeup is too slow

undone veldt
#

That’s fair yah

#

It can be a problem if you don’t get the drop of em

barren iron
#

recoilless has no chargeup and it's reload is about as fast as waiting for the quasar cooldown

oblique lotus
#

its usable but tricky

barren iron
#

downside is that you arent able to do anything during the quasar cooldown

#

sorry

oblique lotus
#

gotta do it from range or you're relying on some pretty narrow windows

barren iron
#

recoilless reload

undone veldt
#

I mean there is the big difference that you can do other stuff while the quasar is cooling down- yah

barren iron
#

but the chargeup itself

#

is also a massive timesink

blissful sparrow
#

just tossing EATs every 70 seconds is like having a quasar without a chargeup

supple siren
#

Bugs do love making great use of that 3 second windup

barren iron
#

the real benefit imo of the quasar is that you dont need to target priority as hard

#

if there's a bug you hate, like an annoying brood commander or stalker

#

you can bap them with it

graceful bluff
#

I honestly prefer the chargeup to the RR's reload

undone veldt
#

Fuck you random Hunter- QUASAR CANNON GO

graceful bluff
#

same time, but you can move at the cost of it being front loaded

barren iron
#

but with an RR you need to like, pick your targets because you only get 6 shots per resupply

#

6 shots is usually enough to deal with big targets like chargers or annoying spewers

#

but

graceful bluff
#

yeah I'm more talking the act of firing it itself

barren iron
#

yeah

#

I personally prefer the RR reload

graceful bluff
#

everything past that is just more of a bonus

barren iron
#

I can use it in split second situations

#

there have been times I've seen a charger charging me so I whip out the recoilless and kill it and it slides to a stop infront of me

barren iron
#

I've seen a leaked illuminate model

#

and they are fucked up

glacial light
#

Mother of liberty

barren iron
#

I cant find it anywhere

undone veldt
#

Very in character for them

barren iron
#

I remember it looking like ||A cyborg-ized flood from halo||

merry cosmos
#

We already got new orders?

#

Sick

undone veldt
#

What are they?

graceful bluff
#

bugs

merry cosmos
undone veldt
#

Ok so now they’re dropping the pretenses

#

We’re just going to secure oil fields

#

(The oil fields are bugs)

merry cosmos
#

Pretense?

#

They never had any

pastel igloo
#

going to take a break for a bit

glacial light
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Imagine if we somehow manager to wipe out bugs and there's just no missions for a day

merry cosmos
undone veldt
merry cosmos
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Also I now have 1150 supercreds

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I love war

forest crater
pastel igloo
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where my medals for doing the major order at

glacial light
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War is good for the super Earth economy, how can it be bad?

graceful bluff
dusky solar
graceful bluff
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We've completed a second major order before getting the reward for the first one once lmao

keen zinc
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Space mail

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God I can't wait to fight bugs again

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Been fighting bots for so long

undone veldt
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Ah shit

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I just realized I never got to fight the gunships or Walking Foundries

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I never encountered them

cobalt patrol
graceful bluff
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Sadly you'll never ever be able to now

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:v

undone veldt
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Hopefully the bots are back by tomorrow when I can play again

undone veldt
cobalt patrol
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Really brave of the devs to permantly remove content

graceful bluff
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following in the shoes of destiny

stoic lotus
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destiny 2 pilled

graceful bluff
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lmao

forest crater
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They did it with HD1, didn't they?

glacial light
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New enemy is terminid fabricator striders where the pilot is a scavenger

undone veldt
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With HD1 the factions respawn after a bit I think

glacial light
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And terminid gunship that a shrieker flies

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Completely unique enemies

graceful bluff
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just a bot gunship with a shrieker pilot

forest crater
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I'm very excited to see the heavy flyers in the bug front

merry cosmos
# dusky solar

This but unironically (in the context of helldivers 2)

glacial light
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I hope it's like a giant Quetzalcoatl or a giant spore filled blimp

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Imagine just fighting and it suddenly becomes dark then you realize it's just a shadow above you

forest crater
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Gods yes

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Imagine if it and the shriekers dove in formation

burnt vapor
glacial light
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Dang that's kind of long

burnt vapor
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Tbf once a faction gets wiped that meant you were getting close to the end as everyone then dog piled the remaining 2 factions

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Also a week might be overstating it I haven’t played in a while

forest crater
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We're gonna have to deal with the creekers again once everything resets lol

merry cosmos
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I just thought to myself

merry cosmos
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Like, Let me give an example.

solid lagoon
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We made them pay for the creek

merry cosmos
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Say you started playing destiny 2 today. You'd go through a scripted campaign designed by professional game designers with a ok ish plot

modest fiber
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huh just noticed we got rid of all the robots for the moment.. well that was fast

merry cosmos
solid lagoon
dusky solar
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merry cosmos
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I saw the first liberation of heeth and angel's venture

glacial light
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I started a week after launch when tbe major order was defending malevelon creek and armor was broke

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Such a hell scape to be thrown into

solid lagoon
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You can take a diver out of the creek, but you can never take the creek out of a diver

merry cosmos
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I never stayed long enough because I only go where the MO tells me to go

solid lagoon
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It was such a brutal experience when I first started playing

merry cosmos
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We have another premium warbond on the way

quick plinth
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wtf are those lights on the horizon

graceful bluff
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I am kinda sad we won't be able to use the anti air rockets vs the gunships for a bit

quick plinth
honest acorn
quick plinth
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they be shimmering

graceful bluff
quick plinth
honest acorn
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Ohhh

modest fiber
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just wondering, have any of you else gotten your medals from the previos major order?

honest acorn
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Those are one of the terrain features for planets with the lava blasts hazard

ionic holly
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They'll be delivered later on, as usual

graceful bluff
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major orders like this that have a fuckload of players to be rewarded takes up to a few days yeah

honest acorn
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It’s the like ā€œvolcano forestā€ biome planet

alpine seal
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can you delay it to thursday high command i'm at the medal cap :(

quick plinth
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and then ofcourse

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an extruding bug

ionic holly