#Helldivers 2: For Managed Democracy!

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dusky solar
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depends how many 380s you throw 😂

meager saffron
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get it twisted

honest acorn
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I've been using the 380 a lot lately because it's pretty much the most reliable base destroyer

dusky solar
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you prefer it to orbital laser?

meager saffron
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it will pretty much kill any fortification for free

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it judt

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takes a bit

honest acorn
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Just needs communications

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Since its a 50-60 meter standoff instead of just throw it at your feet lol

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And it takes out bug nests nicer

pastel igloo
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i'd just throw a grenade

dusky solar
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yeah, orbital laser definitely wants you to throw it DURING an assault sometimes

honest acorn
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I like the orbital laser for stabilizing a bad objective or something but I prefer the 380 for taking bases

dusky solar
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oh vs bugs i don't think i've brought either 120 or 380 in a good while

honest acorn
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You just toss it in, wander off, and if there's anythign left its easy to finish

pastel igloo
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looking slightly fucked up

dusky solar
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lol

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i'll try 380 next bot mission and see if i can get lucky on some bases

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does it work for heavy bases as well as the laser?

meager saffron
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bugs tend to not be as neatly spread out as bots

dusky solar
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or do you need like 2 people to throw bombardments

honest acorn
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You need to land the marker relatively close to the actual fabs since its biased towards the middle but yes

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It's about 60% it kills them all and 40% one fab in a weird spot lives

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But it also tends to destroy all the MG nests and defenders so its easy to finish off

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The thing I'm really impressed with is command bunkers

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I think its actually the best strat in the game for taking them out

dusky solar
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500kg crying in the corner

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it feels kinda nonsensical which buildings take a hellbomb vs which can be stratted

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looking at you, gunship facility

honest acorn
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500 kg used to be good for bunkers but after the bunker buffs it takes too many of them and landing the marker close enough is risky with all the gun turrets

dusky solar
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yep

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i like that hellpods still kill them

south temple
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i want to use it but the battle master goes too hard

dusky solar
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it's worth a try

honest acorn
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380 is just "land it vaguely nearby and hope that at least 2/23 shells land near it"

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Which is good odds

rare nymph
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I just got launched out of the map

dusky solar
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we had one of those last night

rare nymph
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Like, beyond even the kill field

south temple
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it’s the new SEAF space program

rare nymph
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My game is just straight up frozen

honest acorn
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You're being censored because you figured out how Terminids travel between planets

rare nymph
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It do be like that

honest acorn
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Actually does anyone know how many shells the 380 drop?

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I thing its one set of three every four or so seconds

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So 20-24?

kindred lintel
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~27 seconds of 380 barrage time

kindred lintel
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probably only a 30% useful hit rate, though

dusky solar
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i wonder how good mini nuke will be

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as a stratagem if/when we get it

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can't wait for it to have some weird tech like "yeah you can survive it if you max distance throw it with Servo Assisted and then sprint the other direction"

kindred lintel
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You mean Shredder missile?

honest acorn
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I'm hoping the missile silo isn't too far out I'm excited to try that one out

kindred lintel
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Oh yea the leaked laser designated one

dusky solar
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being able to have a direct LowTierGod response to strat jammers

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will be amazing

honest acorn
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I'm curious if it'll be able to take them out

dusky solar
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god i hope so lol

honest acorn
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IIRC they are vulnerable to a 500kg after the jammer is disabled

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(I usually just use a hellbomb)

dusky solar
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yes, they're not toooooo tough

strange vine
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automaton trooper girl im working on, wip

dusky solar
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reverse jointed legs? good taste

strange vine
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gonna do monstergirl versions of all the automaton and terminid enemies

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i mean the automatons all have reverse joints

dusky solar
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oh wait they do? i guess i never paid that much attention, huh

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lol

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i wonder if it's for the same character design reasons of extra height without looking too goofy as the halo elites

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also i think my most surprising automaton deaths are when you walk up to an MG raider and it just doubletaps your face

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lol

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i never expect it because it happens maybe once a week

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i wonder if the automatons actually use human body parts for anything

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if we'll get like an ultrakill guttertank or something

honest acorn
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Yeah those guys can hit really hard

alpine seal
idle hollow
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and knowing who their masters are it’s not surprising

dusky solar
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i saw that reddit post and the 4chan greentext but i went looking for those details and didn't find much to back them up

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i did find a lot of skulls on spikes though

honest acorn
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Hmm idk it seemed more like they were just killing or sacrificing the humans

dusky solar
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yeah

idle hollow
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maybe

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we shall see soon enough

wraith furnace
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<@&1206091872716595200> I'm in Activity 2 if anyone wants to dive

dusky solar
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which given like....... the cyborgs wanted to live peacefully, then literally got enslaved by super earth haha

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understandable anger

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i think the bot front is more like two kinda evil forces fighting it out

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one born of rage and the other of empire

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wow that sounded so cringe what was that last sentence

golden ledge
quick plinth
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three teammates with autocannons

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not a single one shoots at the gunships

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we deathspiral

dusky solar
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LOL

quick plinth
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random teammates truly are an experience

dusky solar
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rip y'all that sucks

quick plinth
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like broski you brought the damn autocannon use it

dusky solar
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i wonder if they shot them a few times then gave up

quick plinth
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they take 2-3 if aiming for the jets and like 4 to the body

dusky solar
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yup

blissful sparrow
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oh i think the explosive warbond just dropped?

dusky solar
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the official news said on the 11th

blissful sparrow
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atleast there is a steam news page for it

dusky solar
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in one week 😄

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yeah! it'll give you the date

blissful sparrow
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Ah, there deep down in the text 😄 it started with "has been deployed" and got me confused

dusky solar
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yup! no worries

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Does the laser cannon kill hulks now?

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It got a buff a while ago but i remember it being super mid at launch

daring monolith
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it can get their eyeball

but it takes a little while on target aiui

dusky solar
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hm

blissful sparrow
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if its exactly on the eye its like 2-3 seconds, so not too slow, just easy to slide off target when it moves

oblique lotus
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best done from crouch or prone to minimize sway

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but it does burn out hulks pretty quick if your aim is good

dusky solar
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i'm learning other weapons b/c i think the autocannon's gonna catch a nerf before too long

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laser seems to do a lot of the same jobs just a little worse

blissful sparrow
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i've been experimenting a bit with the spear. Surely it'll get fixed/buffed, right 🙃

dusky solar
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if they fix the spear lock it'll be one of my favorite weapons by a huge margin

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i love it for running around doing objectives vs bots

blissful sparrow
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we did just do an amusing 4 spear bot blitu

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turns out if everyone has the backpack to reload everyone else, its super smooth

heady halo
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<@&1206091872716595200> anyone down to dive?

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actually, sorry, retract that, im feeling worse than i thought

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😓 orz

daring monolith
heady halo
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yeah autocannon and grenade launcher are the supports they are ballancing arouns

stone bridge
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I honestly think that's a good thing

honest acorn
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I wouldn’t be shocked if the AC lost a tiny amount of damage or ammo pickup efficiency but I don’t think it’s overpowered

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If there’s something up with it it’s how it’s ammo economy is good enough you don’t really have to… switch off it

stone bridge
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Support weapons should feel strong, they're your reliable combat lynchpin for basically the entire mission

stone bridge
honest acorn
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Maybe I’ve just had good with with teammates killing light targets 🤷‍♂️

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Like that might be it

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I run into a lot of people with sickles and itchy trigger fingers haha

stone bridge
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I am a sickle enjoyer

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Lmao

glacial light
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Autocannon users going through hel to get their autocannon back off the ground

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I enjoy the sickle so much I simply don't use "primary" support weapons I want to use sickle and occasionally use supports

dusky solar
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I need the dune chanting sting for when the giant worm enemies drop

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So i can LISAN AL GAIB them and make a clip for youtube and get 100 million views

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Lmao

rough ravine
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I'm getting close to affording my first premium warbond

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Probably gonnna pick up the sickle one

dusky solar
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Sickle one is cracked, HOWEVER, if you can only pick one, another comes out in one week precisely

daring monolith
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a lot of my usual squad runs sickles

often a MG as well, so light targets usually aren't an issue

which frees me up to run autocannon

rough ravine
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It's one at the moment and the explodey one doesn't super grab me

dusky solar
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So it might be worth waiting a few days just to see if anything you like better comes out in the other warbond

rough ravine
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except faster extracts

honest acorn
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Oh nvm

dusky solar
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Oh! Also!

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No fomo

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All warbonds stay up forever

dusky solar
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Buuuuut arrowhead are super goated

heady halo
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<@&1206091872716595200> putting out the call again after taking some painkillers lmao

rough ravine
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Nah I'm not particularly worried about missing out, I just am not going to spend real money on supercreds, so I need to pick which premium warbond to grab first

wraith furnace
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<@&1206091872716595200> Level 8 missions! Come get yer level 8 missions here!

graceful bluff
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Have they said what's causing all these end of mission crashes

heady halo
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we all crashed at the end of that one

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blegh

glacial light
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Why did the devs add crashing to the end of missions, it is a questionable design choice /s

south temple
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to reflect super earth’s struggle against the automaton hackers ofc

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it’s ludonarrative harmony

royal lantern
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I've noticed it seems to be when I try to open a menu immediately after loading in after the mission, are people finding it other times too?

graceful bluff
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Seems like people are saying that installing c++ redists helps the end of mission crashes but I.. doubt it

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it's 100% a memory leak

kindred lintel
barren iron
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if it was that important they'd lock our ships from going to these planets

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that's exactly what is going on with the whole "why cant we just go to the other planets" thing#

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its not supply lines

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it's super earth locking your nav consoles from going there

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because if you could just go to automaton space and blow their HQ up it wouldn't be a forever war, now would it

graceful bluff
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I'm still waiting for a super cruiser to show up randomly one day that's like thrice the size of our ships

south temple
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SES Pride of Hiigara when

graceful bluff
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Just one day the SES Breadstick of Olive Garden shows up

south temple
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man i hope HW3 is good

glacial light
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I understand the bugs players cause they don't want to fight bots, simple is

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Or bugs are more fun to them

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It's a completely different experience than say fighting on draupnir vs creek which are both bot planets

kindred lintel
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as a bug player i just enjoy seeing the funny red number and making sure we prioritize the right targets before they blitzkreig their way into a bile titan spiral

south temple
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i just like being able to run heavy armor, bug missions usually mean too much running for my taste

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the mid-light armor is fire tho

kindred lintel
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i run the enforcer armor (medium heavy) and its fine

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The extra bit of armor lets you tank quite a bit of things

south temple
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that's probably true, i haven't tested bugs with the latest armor patch

kindred lintel
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As far as Im aware its the only type

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(it being medium with slightly more amror/lower stamina)

south temple
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yeah i think there's one per armor type

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light gunner, fort commando, and ig enforcer, tho i don't have it

oblique hazel
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there's also the titan armor in the light-medium slot

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slightly higher armor rating than light for less speed and stamina, with engineering kit passive

azure pewter
south temple
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oh isee

stone bridge
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Titan armour is goated

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My go-to for Bugs

oblique hazel
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its very nice

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I'll even use it for bots up to like diff 7

stone bridge
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With the explosive changes I might actually start using it for bots too

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Now that you can't get one deag'd by random stray rockets

south temple
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the rocket changes are amazing, in battle master i can just eat them for days

oblique hazel
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the endless rain of lasers makes it a bit of tough sell, but I love it so much I use it anyways

glacial light
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I like the light medic armor for bugs and heavy medic for bots for bots now explosives aren't a death sentence

alpine seal
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i'm starting to believe more armors are viable against bots than bugs now

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now that rocket explosions deal intended amounts of damage

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with bots you can tank a decently high amount of gunfire if you don't get randomly domed, and it's actually saved me decently well especially with the ballistic shield

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on bugs if you're not running light armor you get mauled to death by hunters though

glacial light
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I think my new bot setup has 3 support stratagems of quasar, ballistic shield, and mech with 500kg

burnt vapor
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Yeah bugs lack of care about armour makes everything that’s not light feel not great against them

glacial light
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Light stim armor with stamina booster is the forrest Gump build

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Run forever

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Never stop

oblique hazel
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I'm just waiting for AR50 medic armor

glacial light
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Yea it was a superstore item

oblique hazel
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oh damn, hope it comes back around then

glacial light
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Yea that's the armor inuse on bugs and it's very good

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Saves you a lot against spewers now

modest fiber
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i have about an hour or two to kill so <@&1206091872716595200> am once again requesting for dudes

stiff pine
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Lots of people prefer 'not being obliterated by missiles at random'

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I'm not one of them but yeah I get why people prefer bugs sometimes

modest fiber
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sounds fun

rough ravine
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They even nerfed the missiles

keen zinc
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missiles got nerfed

unkempt river
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The only thing I get randomly 1-shot by is cannons post missile fix

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(And gunships, but that's because like 80 or whatever missiles at once kills most people)

south temple
unkempt river
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It's why democracy armor is one of my faves into bots

south temple
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and it looks sick as fuck too

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i prefer my battle master for the recoil reduction and missile tanking

south temple
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real shit tho i can't wait for the new warbond, i need more DMRs

royal lantern
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Honestly I much prefer bots because getting swarmed by stalkers while reloading is more frustrating to me than the occasional Rocket Devastator one tap from across the map

unkempt river
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me, a sun-caster: Re Coil Less?

south temple
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the adjudicator has that drip that the dilligence is sorely lacking imo

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now i wait for the constitution to get added again

keen zinc
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the BR Adjudicator seems like its just gonna invalidate the diligences

heady halo
south temple
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my bet would be a mix between the regular and CS diligence, prolly CS penetration but less damage in exchange for better handling

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or maybe a middle ground between the lib and diligence

graceful bluff
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Also fucking love this quote on one of the new warbond armors

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“The ground is just another obstacle that hasn’t yet been cleared.” – SGM Janet Jones, Excavation Corps Founder.

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really resonates with me rezoning stuff into agriculture with 380 and 120's

south temple
graceful bluff
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Everything needs that sight picture, it's the only non shit one imo

south temple
glacial light
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Oh no a zombie faction

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Or a fungus faction

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Parasite faction?

kindred lintel
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bugs and bots working together

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a true threat to democracy

south temple
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stalkers with guns

keen zinc
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flood faction

naive dragon
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Factory Strider with a Stalker Nest on its back

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Woe

south temple
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i think u mean fun

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infinite corpses for super earth

kindred lintel
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There is a theory out there that automatons are basically just humans forced into servitude (and metaltude)

heady halo
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(human termanid "cultists" who use termanid biology to in some way gain power)

keen zinc
heady halo
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enemy heavenminers with natural carapace and biological acid guns

keen zinc
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more gamers required

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@crystal badger you there?

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we need one additional gamer

glacial light
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Huh mechs can survive a few contact mines, idk if they can even be hurt by it

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Nvm they can survive 7 mines

strange vine
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commissar and brawler

copper crest
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@golden ledge

glacial light
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Ballistic shields can tank several hulk bruister shots before being destroyed and you can barely any damag

runic cairn
strange vine
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true!!

keen zinc
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<@&1206091872716595200> we need one more

hazy oriole
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What strats do y'all like running into bots?

naive dragon
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I have been doing AC/Airstrike/Precision Orbital/Rail Cannon lately

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Anything with barrage in the name I forget exists entirely

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I have been blown up too much

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EMS turret is also great

candid finch
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I just ran some missions with heavy explosion resistant armour + backpack ballistic shield + defender + EATS and then something to take out buildings.
I also run healing light armour + DMR + the lock on missile combo sometimes because they're funny.

naive dragon
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Sickle Senator Impact and a engineer kit medium armor also

hazy oriole
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sadly I don't have the Sickle or the Senator

naive dragon
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A part of me wants to start dropping in with basic kit stuff like the starting armor and liberator and whatnot just because after like level 15 you never see them

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Just start giving off the menacing aura of the newbie gear on a higher level character

ionic holly
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I did not come this far to die now

cobalt patrol
naive dragon
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500 funny

glacial light
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My new fun bot build is
defender + ballistic shield
Senator for berserkers and devs
Quasar cause goated against dropships
Mech cause now it's not paper it shreds berserkers and devs in a second
500kg for buildings that need it

ionic holly
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My bot build is mostly the same as my bug build, just differernt primaries really

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500, cluster, ems strike, spear

And either blitzer/plasma punisher, senator, or stun nade

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Blitzer for bugs, plasma pun for bots

glacial light
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My fun bug build is
Breaker incendiary
EATs
Airburst
Mech
Airstrike

ionic holly
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ive grown to like the clusters after the personal order to use them

glacial light
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Breaker incendiary is really good with both direct damage buff and fire DoT

ionic holly
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Helps that i actually know min-safe on it

wind arrow
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ok sickle just goes really far from how i usually operate

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(aka semi auto reliant, shooting for accuracy)

glacial light
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Yes idk if it has dropoff or bullet drop

wind arrow
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however it's definitely not disliked

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it might just be how it spreads?

glacial light
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Oh misread

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Sickle feels really accurate for a full auto weapon

wind arrow
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i'm not good at controlling full auto guns i find, that and i really don't take shot spread into account when i shoot far

wide mural
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basically no recoil makes it a lot easier to dial in

wind arrow
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first run with sickle, 22% hit rate

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2nd run, 34

honest acorn
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tbf you have quasi-infinite ammo

meager saffron
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yeah it really doesn't matter

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the gun is both a literal laser beam

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and a metaphorical laser beam

glacial light
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Oh I usually get lime 70%+ with at least 2000 shots fired with a sickle

meager saffron
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that has basically bottomless mags

glacial light
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Idk if accuracy is correct cause I usually get like 40% in most gamss

wide mural
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I love that it's accurate enough to snipe the top of a strider pilot's head over their shield with even a little bit of elevation

glacial light
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Or maybe I'm just shooting really close targets all the time

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It has very little recoil

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It's no sniping weapon but it can easily do 50 to 100m hitting devs in the head with short bursts

graceful bluff
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<@&1206091872716595200> this might help the crash at extract thing: Open HD2 > Options > Graphics > Use Async Compute. Close HD2

ionic holly
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Christ
found my first strider
and killed it

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Will note the turret on its back and it itself have different locks for the spear

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I aint fuckin

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fighting one of those again

rare nymph
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I've only encountered two so far

ionic holly
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Found two in the same mission, killed that first one, avoided the other

rare nymph
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Both times I just threw a 380 and started praying

ionic holly
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it took me nearly 2 whole spears and a 500kg embed to kill it

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(whole counting the backpack to be clear)

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so like.. nearly 7 shots didnt even kill

rare nymph
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The second time, I killed it via hellpod landing, so I got lucky there

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(the 380 missed due to complex stratagem plotting)

ionic holly
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Ouchie

rough ravine
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I haven't used the 380 yet, though I have it. The 120 is more than scattershot enough for me

honest acorn
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I quite like the 380

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Big spread big booms

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Clears bases and shit well

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Occasionally annihilates enemies in the field

rough ravine
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See I used 120s for base clears but it would often just... not hit the fab

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So I tend to just go for eagle strikes

honest acorn
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380 tends to clear bases... eventually

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But with the upgrade it lasts like 30 seconds

rough ravine
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Jesus

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Oh byw

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What's the tradeoff between the orbital gatling and airburst?

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They both seem to do basically the same thing

meager saffron
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orbital gatling is a lot less continual

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airburst fires a huge blast at regular intervals

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gatling fires for like a second and then stops

honest acorn
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Orbital gatling has a marginally shorter cd and hits unreliably but continuously

meager saffron
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gatling is also dependent on the position of the super destroyer in the sky so I've found it's largely useless

honest acorn
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Airburst hits 2x (3x with extra guns!) at about 1.5 second intervals and kills basically everything with less than heavy armor each time

keen zinc
honest acorn
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Airburst is kind of the goat

rough ravine
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Ahh okay

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Also is there a way to know what direction an eagle will approach from/aim their run?

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Is it also center of map?

honest acorn
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depends on the ability

meager saffron
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I always aim it as perpendicular to your facing when they're thrown

undone veldt
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Yah I think it’s generally perpendicular coming from the left

honest acorn
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strafing is always directly away from you, air strike napalm, and clusters all go perpendicular to you

meager saffron
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black circle is you

honest acorn
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500kg comes in from basically behind you

meager saffron
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red is impact point

rough ravine
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Ahh okay, handy

honest acorn
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oh eagle smoke is also perpendicular

meager saffron
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this is most applicable for strafing, airstrike and napalm like Cyan said

undone veldt
honest acorn
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I'm not sure what rockets do - somewhere from vaguely behind you

undone veldt
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There’s not much of an angle to it

honest acorn
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I think that's all of them?

rough ravine
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Rockets auto aim at least

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Okay, might give strafe a few more tries, I've found it really hard to aim

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But I love strike and rockets

honest acorn
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yeah and its worth noting that they select their target when the beacon "arms" and puts the beam into the sky not when the eagle arrives

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So don't lead targets with it

rough ravine
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Worth the rocket? Yeah

undone veldt
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I generally just run 3 eagle strikes

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I love ‘em

oblique lotus
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I think 500kg embed does reduced damage or something

rough ravine
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Yeah I love the standard eagle bombs

oblique lotus
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a friend of mine said that it's basically a cone out of the back of the bomb

meager saffron
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maybe they shouldn't have put it in an iframe then

honest acorn
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I think its basically an upwards cone yeah

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embeds definitely do less damage

undone veldt
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That feels wrong

rough ravine
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Wack, but I don't have that yet

oblique lotus
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strafe is pretty good

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just get in front of the crowd and huck it at them

oblique lotus
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short callin time

honest acorn
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don't do this

oblique lotus
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snrk

undone veldt
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Oh

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Oh god there’s a lot more of angle then I realized

oblique lotus
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it's actually not that much

undone veldt
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I always thought it was basically directly downwards from the eagle

oblique lotus
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but sometimes eagle 1 wants to break someone's kneecaps

honest acorn
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its about a 50-60 degree angle

stiff pine
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and I literally know what will happen

oblique hazel
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<@&1206091872716595200> 2 slots here if people want to dive

honest acorn
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yeah sure

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one sec I need to boot up

cobalt patrol
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Orbital gattling is a sustained barrage in a fairly focused area

meager saffron
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the radius is eenie

cobalt patrol
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@oblique hazel i can come too, but it looks like Nalesh just jumped in?>

meager saffron
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the attack pattern is basically like shining a flashlight down on the ground, if that helps you visualise it

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the problem is that the flashlight can be pointed from fucking anywhere

oblique hazel
#

yeah unfortunately

cobalt patrol
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And airburst is a big cone that comes out three times

oblique lotus
#

cluster is pretty reliable just because it chucks out a trillion submunitions

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so everything will get hit at least once if not multiple times

stone bridge
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(including your teammates)

oblique lotus
#

but I've also been killed by what I think is a bounced submunition at least once

meager saffron
#

cluster is super reliable at the cost of occasionally pinging your teammate in the head with frangible popcorn

oblique lotus
cobalt patrol
oblique lotus
#

then it's only sometimes

keen zinc
stone bridge
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Yeah it goes from 75% to 33%

oblique lotus
#

I am a master of cluster so I only frag myself or my teammates every eight throws or so

stone bridge
#

Clusters are insane at TKing

oblique lotus
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but they're so good

keen zinc
#

I'm good at clusters

oblique lotus
#

they cover a huge area

meager saffron
#

I still run em because it makes my brain happy to see the funny x50 numby

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especially on hard bug missions

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where you can just solo waves at the occasional cost of Funny Ricochet

oblique lotus
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I fear no cluster

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if you're afraid it'll get you

rough ravine
#

see I'd rather spend slot on airstrike?

oblique lotus
#

but if you carry democracy in your heart you will never die

oblique lotus
rough ravine
#

WHich can take out hard targets and buildings

oblique lotus
#

500/airstrike/cluster/support weapon

rough ravine
#

Part of the problem for me is I don't have the command down for clusers yet

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where airstrike is ezpz

oblique lotus
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it's up right mash down

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in the same way that rocket pods are up and then just firing three fingers sequentially

meager saffron
#

86222 is the 500

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i think clusters is 86262?

keen zinc
#

8675309 good time stratagem

rough ravine
#

thresh are you using the tenkey for commands

meager saffron
#

no this is fighting game notation

rough ravine
#

oh okay

meager saffron
#

i use the arrowkeys like a scrub

rough ravine
#

.> I'm still using wsad

stiff pine
#

I have ctrl bound to crouch and strat

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and I'm not sorry

meager saffron
#

...wait yeah that was what I meant to say

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doi

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i haven't used arrowkeys to move in a video game since playing flash games in the 2000s

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what am I talking about

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it's maybe not optimal to have to sit still to punch in a gem but it does feel intentional sometimes

rough ravine
#

I'm really tempted to import my XIV hotbar crimes into helldivers and use the tenkey

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bind strat meny to numpad 5

oblique lotus
#

oh wait cluster

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86226

meager saffron
#

yeah I think I just got mixed up with the 120 or 380s

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actually no I was thinking of walking barrage

oblique lotus
#

380s I have to do from menu I don't have it memorized

meager saffron
#

which iirc is just 626262

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although I just input it as 62622626262626262626262622626262626262262626262626262662 until the thing lights up

stiff pine
#

my fastest input is EATs

keen zinc
#

I can call in the jump pack by memory

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But I don't know what the combo is

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That's how muscle memory it is

meager saffron
#

88282 I think

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which I only know because like... it's a jump pack

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of course the only inputs involved are up and down

rough ravine
#

See I love eagle airstrike for just be uprightdownright

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simple and clean

meager saffron
#

it might be 82882

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i forgor

cobalt patrol
#

Anything that requires moving my hand off numpad or my fingers off WASD is a no go for me

keen zinc
#

The second and third are the ones that are the same

rough ravine
#

cluster is uprightdowndown right

keen zinc
#

It's down up up down up

cobalt patrol
#

<@&1206091872716595200> Interest in a second front?

keen zinc
#

Bed time for bamko

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Give them hell for me

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I'm a lunatic

dusky solar
merry cosmos
keen zinc
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5

merry cosmos
#

Out of 10

candid finch
#

I thought that said Lunatic Akimbo

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... I want akimbo weapons

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Bang bang double Senators

heady halo
#

armour attribute of weild two one handed weapons

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cmooon

candid finch
#

Even have it take up the backpack slot

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like the shield

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bam bam hold this L(ead)

heady halo
noble shuttle
#

does anyone know if Hulk vents take extra damage from explosives?

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just want to be sure before I buy the plasma punisher

heady halo
#

i think explosions just can hit even if they explode on the bars or edge, as they aoe

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no specific weakness i am aware of

noble shuttle
#

okay, I heard somewhere that the abdomen end of the bile spewers is only a weak spot to explosive

heady halo
#

i dunno i dealt damage there with the countersniper but maybe that was due to armour piercing

noble shuttle
#

if you have medium armor pen aim for the head, it gets the job done faster

graceful bluff
#

ok yeah I'm pretty sure the fix I posted earlier fixes the extract crashes

graceful bluff
#

Blitz Search and Destroy mission speedrun on difficulty 9 helldive in helldivers 2.

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honest acorn
hot meadow
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I played a ton with quasar tonight and loved it.

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And then as I ended the night I realized I spent the entire thing on a cold planet, so I think the baseline gun is probably quite different from what I experienced!

honest acorn
#

It’s better

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Cold planets make it take longer to charge to fire but I think it’s bugged and they don’t cool faster for the next shot

unreal merlin
#

Yeah it's a little backwards. Not terribly though

unkempt river
#

<@&1206091872716595200> these bots seem to think I don't deserve my emotional support 500kg bomb.

hot meadow
#

Ooooooh

junior badge
merry cosmos
rough ravine
#

<@&1206091872716595200> Anyone up for a second fireteam?

oblique hazel
#

we just got room for 1

unkempt river
#

lol

oblique lotus
#

the lib concussive for instance

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for spewers

idk about hulks since their vents are weak to most things

#

plasma weapons aren't explosive which gives them some weird properties

daring monolith
#

the scorcher is explosive iirc?

but yeah most weak spots (vents, spewer and bile titan sacs, etc) take increased damage from explosive-tagged weapons

stoic lotus
#

spewer sacs take like 90% reduced damage from regular shots but full damage from explosives

pastel igloo
#

Having played Helldivers 2 dome more, i npw perfectly understand this meme

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My third eye opened when i threw one into a camp and watched my teammate run into the base as i did so only to then get blown to fucking smithereens

unkempt river
#

<@&1206091872716595200> there's HELL TO DIVE!!

quick plinth
#

hmmm

cobalt patrol
#

Maybe in a bit @unkempt river ? i'm in DD2 atm

sinful bay
quick plinth
keen zinc
#

What happened there

quick plinth
#

#679662242672672769 message

oak crow
#

what do you guys think about the new warbond set coming out?

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iirc it was officially announced, but i'll spoiler it anyways just in case

#

gotta say the CE-27 Ground Breacher armor looks beautiful

modest fiber
#

its glorious

sinful bay
#

I FORESAW IT

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YES

oak crow
# oak crow

the BR-14 and R-36 look awesome. undecided on the crossbow tbh

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i think its got potential but like, idk how much it fits with everything else

keen zinc
#

BR is gonna be a space FAL

stoic lotus
#

give me space fal

oak crow
#

"R-36 Eruptor Rifle
Keep your distance… this bolt-action rifle fires jet-assisted shells that explode shrapnel in all directions upon impact. All directions. Even your face."

#

very very excited to see how good this is, tho i wonder what distance the shrapnel can reach

sinful bay
#

It's the BR-14 a rifle or a shotty?

oak crow
#

rifle

keen zinc
#

its a battle rifle

sinful bay
#

sad

keen zinc
#

BR

sinful bay
#

No new shotty sadcowboy

oak crow
keen zinc
#

gonna be an inbetween of the diligence and liberator and with medium pen

oak crow
#

honestly don't think we need more

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yet anyways

oak crow
#

certainly sounds like it

stoic lotus
#

give me the dmr

oak crow
#

sounds like a good anti-dev weapon

sinful bay
stoic lotus
#

give me the 7.62 videogames

sinful bay
#

B. Shield + Pistol Grenade

keen zinc
#

<@&1206091872716595200> i summon thee

#

democracy needs you

pastel igloo
#

Omw home atm

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Should be home in 15-20 mins

south temple
#

if there’s still room in 15-30 minutes or so i should be able to hop on

oak crow
#

honestly, probably a weird preference, but i wish they let us take the scopes off our weapons and just use iron sights

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don't get me wrong, some of the scopes are nice, but with others, i'd just rather be able to take it off

south temple
#

they should let me run AMR iron sights

keen zinc
#

remove ironsights improve handling

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slick

graceful bluff
#

oooh

#

I just saw a video of the ||anti air rocket launcher|| and I might have a new favourite

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||Looks to be prox fuse too||

stone bridge
#

||handheld cluster launcher zoom ||

graceful bluff
#

neuron activation

oak crow
graceful bluff
#

The scope is a part of balance

south temple
#

true but i want to become simo hayha like the SEAF intended

oak crow
#

I just wanna cosplay sci-fi 1917

graceful bluff
#

yeah but it'd get nerfed so hard if we could cod it

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I'm sure they'll add space garand sooner or later

south temple
#

real shit when are they gonna give me a martini henry

oak crow
#

i wanna see lines of trenches going miles, with little machine gun bunkers and bombed out craters to hide in

graceful bluff
#

Or actually fuck the garand

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give me a pedersen

oak crow
#

it would work really well imo

graceful bluff
#

it has the neuron activation gizmo

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(And it would also fit super earth so well having a rifle where you lose sight picture whenever you shoot)

oak crow
south temple
#

i can imagine how fun it would be to run that shit on a helldive

graceful bluff
#

Just give me a one handed sawnoff version of the shotgun you find on the ground

south temple
#

yeaaaaaaah

graceful bluff
#

we need more one handed weapons badly

sinful bay
#

EXACLTY

south temple
#

the break action is so sick

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i love archaic sci fi shit

#

shame it has no hitmarkers

graceful bluff
#

I still have no idea how you accidentally make a gun have no hitmarkers

glacial light
#

One handed 50 cal double barreled sawed off that breaks your arm every time you use it

#

A true helldiver weapon

graceful bluff
#

let me strap a slab of semtex onto the ballistic shield and just throw it at someone

south temple
#

aggressive ERA

south temple
#

omg same brain

sinful bay
#

PLEASE

glacial light
sinful bay
#

And let me bash with the shield

south temple
#

thanks lmao

graceful bluff
glacial light
#

Lisan Al Gaib

south temple
sinful bay
#

Strap the remote detonation grenade on the 95% explosive resistant armor

south temple
sinful bay
#

Bit of a shame we didn't get that, and the Thermite grenade looks like a cluster bomb grenade

glacial light
#

Explosive resist armor should let you rocket jump I'm just saying

sinful bay
#

SO the stun grenade still META for most cases

south temple
graceful bluff
#

honestly with the stagger from the arc thrower I've gone back to HE/napalm

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just to get fabs and holes better

glacial light
#

I still run impacts for no reason than personal, I like big booms

south temple
#

i just like panic stunning the denji horde

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stun grenade and autocannon or slugger headshots

glacial light
#

Since I stopped running airstrike I find myself lacking in the building destruction field

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Ironically since I started off running throw armor and 3 reds for bases

south temple
#

i usually take air strike and 380 for bots

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then ems mortar and AC

graceful bluff
#

I usually go 120 380 arc thrower flex slot for most things

south temple
#

i might take the walking barrage for a spin, it seems interesting

graceful bluff
#

the saturation isn't enough imo

glacial light
#

I like walking it's reliable if you angle it right for medium bases

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Will take out fabs and nests by itself usually

stone bridge
sinful bay
#

Sticky 👀

keen zinc
#

<@&1206091872716595200> send twodes

glacial light
#

I think cause I play like 7 most of the time I run like more fun builds over what's optimal for me knowing usually my teammates will pick up my weaknesses

stone bridge
#

I mean, did you watch the trailer?

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It shows that quite prominently

quick plinth
#

and the rifle looks like an inbetween liberator and dilegence

sinful bay
#

I did not, I arrived home and slammed my face into my pillow nad blacked out

quick plinth
#

which just feels like its gonna be a more handy dilegence

keen zinc
#

diligences need to be buffed to make room for the BR imo

quick plinth
#

maybe they dont give it a scope?

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so if you wanna snipe the dilegence is still a thing

#

probably just gonna have it be a reddot I guess

south temple
#

prolly gonna be a slugger type red dot from the looks of it

keen zinc
#

nah its a BR, if it has a worse sight than both the rifles its supposed to in-between thatd be dumb

blissful sparrow
#

gimme a flip up magnifier Holosight

heady halo
#

gimme a PIAT (personal infantry anti tank) a reloadable shoulder launcher that throws a huge directed charge with a small bullet and a Big Spring in a short ranged arc. A reloadable EAT that does more damage but fires in a short arc. Great for hitting the top of hulks and tanks or hitting bile titans from the underside.

hexed steeple
#

the should invent a gun that shoots bullets next

heady halo
#

seems played out

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gimme a gun that throws knives

blissful sparrow
#

Stake launcher

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i want to nail bugs to other bugs

glacial light
#

Spear should have a javelin mode where it goes out the barrel and impacts the top of the target to avoid hitting anything in the way

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Actual tank buster

keen zinc
#

give me a hip mortar

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Illuminate music

pastel igloo
#

finally got the helmet i wanted thanks to the Major Order

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now i got that Helldiver swag

#

doesn't seem like i got the malevelon creek cape sadly

glacial light
#

I got the cape already the day they announced it I believe

pastel igloo
#

makes sense

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just realized the Super Store is a thing, i think i will save my super credits for the season pass things instead tho

graceful bluff
#

There's a few armors that are really worth grabbing, mainly ones that don't have a version of that armor type in the passes

pastel igloo
#

these mfers just got out of the damn trenches wtf

graceful bluff
#

though it rotates pretty fast

pastel igloo
#

interesting!

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i have like

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400?

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super credits

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rn

graceful bluff
#

for example there's a light armor with a perk that gives it the armor of a medium which is really nice

pastel igloo
#

that does sound cool

graceful bluff
#

There's also a heavy armor with said perk which just gives you absurd levels of armor

pastel igloo
#

which one

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i need it

graceful bluff
#

looks like EOD armor

pastel igloo
#

currently using th4e one that gives me more grenades

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lmao

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teammate just died to a supply pod

graceful bluff
#

that's one way of getting more supplies

pastel igloo
#

lets gooooo

#

finally got the jump pack

graceful bluff
#

oh the EOD armor is in the store currently

pastel igloo
#

i kinda wanna grab it

graceful bluff
#

There are ways to farm super credits decently fast but it's a bit boring

pastel igloo
#

good to know

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yeah super heavy armor seems my vibe

blissful sparrow
#

i'm personally a big fan of the heavy explosive resist armor, iirc thats also from the super store

graceful bluff
#

yeah the heavy and light explosive resist ones are real neat

blissful sparrow
#

also looks dope with its silver metallic plates

burnt vapor
graceful bluff
#

but yeah the light gunner also looks really nice

#

I mainly run this though

blissful sparrow
#

yeah, legionnaire is my goto for bugs

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with drone commander helmet

stoic lotus
#

I have been going light gunner drone commander

graceful bluff
#

legionnaire+380 is just such a nice combo for dealing with annoying objectives

#

Also since it really doesn't make sense, this armor is a medium stealth armor even if it doesn't look it

#

which is really nice since sprint bonus doesn't matter much when sneaking

#

still waiting on a full on ghillie suit heavy stealth

pastel igloo
#

got hellbombed

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tried to arm one and got stuck in a wall

#

two of them turned me to ash

blissful sparrow
#

did you enjoy the experience?

pastel igloo
#

got an achievement so it wasn't all bad

graceful bluff
#

Also speaking of things that don't make sense

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as long as you're prone you take less explosive damage, even if you're midair

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diving into tank shells(as long as they don't hit your head) means you usually survive em

dusky solar
#

Does the game register you as prone if you spam the input midair, or do you just have to mash dive beforehand

graceful bluff
#

as soon as you press it you count as prone

#

Some people here saw me utterly disrespecting a tank earlier by eating like three of those shells in a row without taking damage, then trimping off its corpse to launch myself ~170 metres towards where we were going

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also without taking damage

stoic lotus
#

trimping

graceful bluff
dusky solar
#

This video has been immensely fun to watch

sinful bay
#

the head floats

modest fiber
pastel igloo
#

i only have money for the armor

graceful bluff
#

Also I suggest rebinding your prone key(not dive) and crouch keys to where you can quickly press them cause ducking under devastator rocket barrages never stops feeling amazing

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and is much safer than trying to dodge them by moving

pastel igloo
#

i want to use dodge but then no jump pack

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though i don't think i'm going to be particularly using the jump pack a lot

#

got another 45 medals for some reason

#

i'll take it

graceful bluff
#

you can rebind dodge to tap spacebar and then hold spacebar is still jetpack

pastel igloo
#

hero of the federation looks pretty cool

#

ok i want the heavy armor

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but also this looks sick

#

and i'm almost halfway through getting it

#

nevermind i bought the heavy armor

graceful bluff
#

time for chonk

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it just shrugs off small arms fire so much it's great

pastel igloo
#

this kinda fucks

graceful bluff
#

Combining it with the ballistic shield is also great

pastel igloo
#

how do i get the ballistic shield

graceful bluff
#

it's a stratagem

pastel igloo
#

ahhh

#

i need lvl 12 for it

graceful bluff
#

backpack slot, you can fire one handed weapons with it(sidearms, smgs), and when you're not using it(sprinting, using a two handed weapon like for example the arc thrower), it's on your back and still blocks stuff that hits it

pastel igloo
#

i'm lvl 8 rn :)

graceful bluff
#

it's great for running away due to this

pastel igloo
#

ooh nice

#

i want that

#

i can get a submachine gun for it

#

since that's one handed

#

or use a handgun

graceful bluff
#

it used to be terrible because small arms fire took health off it, now only explosive does

pastel igloo
#

neat

graceful bluff
#

the Senator revolver is amazing with it because it does a ton of headshot damage

pastel igloo
#

everyones on Maia huh

#

it's like 70% liberated

#

meanwhile Durgen is 1% liberated and Tibit is 3%

hexed steeple
#

i feel like there's some sort of unspoken agreement to go from top to bottom

glacial light
#

It's generally the best strategy to focus on one planet at a time

idle hollow
pastel igloo
#

unless it's this, then yes

idle hollow
#

it’s at like 30% on there

#

wtf

pastel igloo
#

gonna try playing on hard

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i don't think it's gonna go great because i'm lacking good weapons to take out bigger targets

glacial light
#

Each planet has a base percentage where the liberation drops by like 1.5%(?) per hour so if everyone is spread out equally then it's effectively 4.5% loss every hour vs the 1.5% of focusing on one planet

pastel igloo
#

join hard mission
immediately kicked

#

democracy

glacial light
#

Yea you kind of get kicked a lot in pub games for being low levels, accidentals, wearing the new cape, "bad" loadouts, and my favorite not reinforcing during ion storms or in jammers

graceful bluff
#

But yeah if you wanna start a group freyja I'm fine with running some lower level stuff

glacial light
#

Same I can play soon

pastel igloo
#

sounds goods

#

oh they left me alone in the mission

#

guess i'll leave and do something easier

#

Challenging was fine so i'll do that

honest acorn
pastel igloo
#

oh

#

got booted from a mission, i assume that was a kick?

graceful bluff
#

it'll tell you if you got kicked

pastel igloo
#

i see

#

well i was booted from mid mission to the ship so idk what that was about

graceful bluff
#

host probably crashed

#

or some other connection issue either on the hosts or your end

glacial light
#

There's been a lost of server disconnects for me recently

pastel igloo
#

righto

graceful bluff
#

for pretty obvious reasons a lot of the ps5 players are wifi warriors so you can just get pranked by a dropped package at the wrong time sometimes

pastel igloo
#

💀

orchid pulsar
#

<@&1206091872716595200> u know what

fallen tendon
# pastel igloo i see

the kick banner is as big as the You Died in a souls game - its impossible to miss it.
For checking chatlog if someone was kicked if they "returned to civillian life" then they left, if they "didn't make the cut" they were kicked

dusky solar
#

I wonder if we'll ever get a stillsuit looking fremen armor

#

Also hot Dune take: "Kiss the Ring" is a better movie theme than "Binary Sunset"

cobalt patrol
quick plinth
ionic holly
#

Welp
i hit medal cap cause i'm saving them for the next warbond

#

i want the new marksman rifle and GP

dusky solar
#

xD nice

#

i want the eruptor because i'm basic

#

idk what loadout i'll use it on but

#

i want it 😂

ionic holly
#

I would reccomend one that uses a stratagem as a primary

#

(so like your stalwart or arc thrower type builds)

pastel igloo
#

Finished my first suicide difficulty mission

ionic holly
#

Good job Freyja

pastel igloo
#

Was pretty fun to play tactically actually

#

It got me to level 9 too

dusky solar
#

right, but if i run autocannon or quasar i'd rather have a gun that can handle hordes

pastel igloo
#

So it'll level me up faster

dusky solar
#

so like sickle or scorcher my beloved

ionic holly
pastel igloo
#

Got to try Sickle

#

It's really good

dusky solar
#

the gun itself seems so fun hahaha

#

big kaboom

graceful bluff
#

oh and freyja, if you like snipers you're gonna adore the bolt action that's coming in the next warbond

ionic holly
#

It's nice but it needs a loadout that works with it, not against it

again this is assuming the stats i saw pre-release are correct

pastel igloo
#

Oooh

#

Sounds cool

ionic holly
#

Sometimes hard to make sure to pry open the game just right

graceful bluff
#

it's a frag explosive shell sniper rifle

ionic holly
#

Mhm, can blow up fabricators should that remain unchanged

graceful bluff
#

and probably still gonna oneshot hulks in the head

ionic holly
#

Yep yep

dusky solar
#

if it kills hulks i will run it with an MG

#

but do you really think it will?

ionic holly
#

good bot weapon no matter how you spin it

dusky solar
#

MG + eruptor + ammo backpack would be so cool

ionic holly
#

Unless they just randomly changed it, should still do that

dusky solar
#

i've wanted an excuse to run MG when dropping solo

graceful bluff
#

Even if it won't kill hulks I feel like it's gonna be good for ripping their arms off

ionic holly
#

Aye, and good backshots damage

graceful bluff
#

and neutering a scorcher hulk by blowing its flamethrower up is always fun

ionic holly
#

I want the GP because i run stunnades so having a more instant outpost destroyer than my stratagems will be nice

graceful bluff
#

Turns it from the most terrifying enemy in the game to a mild annoyance

ionic holly
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We love that

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Honestly the crossbow vaguely has my interest too, not in the 'i want to use it' way more in the 'i want to see how people use it' way

tall nova
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Its not called Hellcrouchers

dusky solar
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wait you can prone without diving???

ionic holly
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But yeah
beyond the lack of new passives for the armour, this might be my favorite warbond yet

for the record that's not a spoiler, playstation themself have shown the armour passives

tall nova
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I think its Z by default, but why would you ever want to?

dusky solar
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XD

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sometimes you're on fraught terrain where if you dive in any given direction you might ragdoll

ionic holly
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Oh the new booster! the extraction pilot one

fun to see that finally come out too

dusky solar
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what's that booster do? 😄

ionic holly
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Unless it's changed, shaves off some of the extraction timer, like a minute i wanna say?

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possibly just 30 seconds

dusky solar
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that's a big chunk ngl

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i wonder if it's worth taking?

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maybe

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idk

ionic holly
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Yeah it's gonna be the booster i run if the main 3 are already being ran

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(vitality, stamina, ammo)

fallen tendon
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it'll def be worth it on the longer extraction timer modifier ones

dusky solar
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hm. how often does that 30 seconds or 1 minute save you?

fallen tendon
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stuck 4m till extract is not fun

dusky solar
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you're right, it's definitely great QoL

ionic holly
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An aside, i do hope they throw out the next free warbond soonis-

Ohhh, that's probably why we still have a lot of unreleased weapons and armour

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they're building up the stockpile

fallen tendon
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for 2m it'll be nice but not a gamechanger, for 4m its the difference between holding out vs 12 sudden hulks or holding out vs 8 sudden hulks

dusky solar
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that's sorta what i meant, how often do you get overruns on the pad?

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i guess it depends on that factor mostly

ionic holly
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i mean it also means a little more of a time bonus if you ask me

dusky solar
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true! it's free XP

ionic holly
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Either way i'm happy to run it

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also, i think my eagle pilot likes me

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between throwing so many suicide plays cluster bombs and 500kgs that i've survived i'm convinced there's a weighted hand on these ordinance drops

modest fiber
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<@&1206091872716595200> am once again requesting for dudes

quick plinth
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sorry

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saving my helldives for after the 11th

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(when the new warbond comes out)

fallen tendon
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lmao just logged in and had 85 medals from major orders dumped on me apparently

ionic holly
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I'm taking a break today, i farmed way too hard yesterday to hit 250 medals

graceful bluff
dusky solar
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i don't really mind going without the "start with full inventory" booster

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UNLESS

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my stack is suiciding 12 times on a detector tower

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lmao

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i didn't think much of it until last night

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haha

graceful bluff
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Honestly it's gonna be very hard for anything to ever beat the vitality, sprint, spacepod, muscle/delayed drops boosters

dusky solar
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yeah

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it will take boosters that do things like reduce stratagem cooldowns

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which are boring

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and i REALLY hope they don't add them idk

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sometimes it seems like the boosters are a corner of the game's design that can easily go bad

graceful bluff
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honestly a lot of the current boosters should just be ship upgrades

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would give a good sample sink too

dusky solar
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it would XD tbf i'm almost level 50 and have neglected samples for so long that i still need 154 more greens and 43 more oranges 😅

graceful bluff
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I was capped on samples before I hit 50 lol

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I could also see just giving us a second booster slot at 50 or 100

dusky solar
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idk, i like how non grindy the progression is

graceful bluff
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yeah it's just being rewarded with qol options later on

dusky solar
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2 boosters is a lot though

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like 8 boosters vs 4 is kinda significant

graceful bluff
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consider that we get like what, one or two boosters a month

tall nova
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I have a ton of rare samples and not nearly enough common

dusky solar
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i don't think it'd be game breaking but i really love how you can design loadouts, and players can easily earn all the parts quickly

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pro tip for quick commons, on eradicates, kill everything on the map

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they stop dropping more after you 100% the mission

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there's usually like 10 regulars

graceful bluff
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I could also see just burning samples to get X missions worth of second slots

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would also give you a reason to pick up samples other than shiny

ionic holly
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Honestly if we're talking about a resource sink
for the love of fuck lemme use requistion for anything

dusky solar
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i just want to donate it for name decorators and stuff

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i don't really want anything that impacts gameplay

graceful bluff
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decorations for your ship

dusky solar
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yeah 😄

ionic holly
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I just want a way to burn it man, i dont care how

graceful bluff
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new banners, silly hat for your democracy officer, etc

dusky solar
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i would LOVE the hats

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what kind of boosters would y'all like to see

graceful bluff
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stealth booster would be nice

dusky solar
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like -detection range?

graceful bluff
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yeah

dusky solar
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would be sick

graceful bluff
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Also, hellbomb seeding

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making more unexploded hellbombs show up on the map

dusky solar
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like, spawns more hellbombs on the map?

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yeah those are great

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i had a mission on vandalon iv with 12 hellbombs lol

graceful bluff
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I crave explosions

dusky solar
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they were EVERYWHERE up on every cliff

graceful bluff
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I once had 5 hellbombs chain

dusky solar
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5? lol, i've seen ONE blow up another but never 5

graceful bluff
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I have no idea what the deal was on that map it was just cursed

dusky solar
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"cursed"

graceful bluff
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it turned malevolon jungle into a plowed field

dusky solar
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INSUFFICIENTLY DEMOCRATIC

honest acorn
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Is Vandalon an ice planet?

dusky solar
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it is!

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it's an ice planet, very flat

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lots of craggy rocks

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it's either you're in tiny little valleys all the time or wide open

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very good Spear territory

tall nova
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How about a booster that INCREASES detection range, because freedom doesnt sneak around! o7

hexed steeple
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they should add a booster that lets you shoot bullets from a gun

tall nova
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But boosters that make the game harder (like dark souls calamity ring) could be interesting

dusky solar
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LOL imagine the griefing

tall nova
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It cant be worse than the Tesla tower in terms of griefing

dusky solar
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you could drop into other games with the negative boosters, then leave

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would rather not have that lmao

honest acorn
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Oh yeah I remember Vandalon idk why it had so many

dusky solar
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i wonder if it was just a terrain generation issue

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i hope they keep it around though 😂

tall nova
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More hellbomb spawns would be cool tho

pastel igloo
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i need to get more experience with bugs at some point

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like 97% of the missions i've done have been automaton

cobalt patrol
pastel igloo
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i didn't really like the bug missions i've done so far so this current major order suits me fine

cobalt patrol
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Bring fire m

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Or lighting

dusky solar
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the best reddit post i've seen in the last week is "hellbombs should detonate instantly if you mess up the inputs"

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yeah freyja, bug missions are a horde shooter, bot missions are a LOT more tactical

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they're both horde shooters i guess

honest acorn
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every correct button input is one (1) second of fuse

dusky solar
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but bots feel way more like... fun

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LOL that would work too cyan

pastel igloo
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automaton missions haven't felt much like horde shooters personally tbh

dusky solar
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yeah i was just covering my ass because the spawns can get dense

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specifically on uh

pastel igloo
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there are a lot of enemies sometimes but like

dusky solar
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the prospecting missions

pastel igloo
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they tend to be in smaller groups

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so you don't get swarmed

honest acorn
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automaton missions still do the horde shooter thing but the lots of ranged enemies and wide open areas make for a really unique feeling experience where you have to deal with "hordes" of fire-and-maneuver sections

dusky solar
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you can also USUALLY burst down automatons very quickly

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so it's like, even if there's a ton of bots it's usually possible to just wipe the infantry then kill the others at a slower pace

pastel igloo
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yeah

dusky solar
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where do y'all zero your laser guns to btw

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i've been doing 200 on the full auto one

pastel igloo
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i use diligence to just one-tap the smaller bots

strange vine
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gonna be really interesting how they handle the Illuminate in HD2

graceful bluff
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I just max all scopes out

graceful bluff
strange vine
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bots are straightforward ranged power, but illuminate were tricksy

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i heard that in HD1 a lot of illuminate weapons were arc weapons

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so uh

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i guess the arc resist armor's gonna come in handy lol

graceful bluff
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They can't really do what they did in HD1(messed with your controls) since that just feels horrible in fps

honest acorn
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I think they should