It makes a really really weird blast shield
#Helldivers 2: For Managed Democracy!
honest acorn
barren iron
I've still not found the new automaton enemies...
rare nymph
I haven’t found the factory strider yet
sinful bay
dif 8-9 so I heard
rare nymph
I’ve been doing 8s, but no luck so far
hallow gorge
I’ve been doing 8s, but no luck so far
I just got one on 7, I think it's just rare
ionic holly
Found another gunship fabricator today, god i love using the spear on them
the ships not the fabricator for clarity
craggy lagoon
fabricator so tanky that if you put the hellbomb on the wrong side of it, it doesn't die
either that or somehow I had my hellbomb get destroyed even after arming it
dusky solar
either that or somehow I had my hellbomb get destroyed even after arming it
Every bot looooooves to shoot hellbombs
Especially gunships
keen zinc
Shield generator is getting the attention it deserves
90s cooldown for the world's greatest decoy or hellbomb protector
stone bridge
RE: the Autocannon chatter earlier, as someone whos mained it for a long time, taking a backpack is a significant downside, along with the fact that its only really "the best weapon" into tanks
Which, imo, is more of an issue with tanks being too fragile
Since two well aimed impacts also does the same thing
Otherwise, a lot of support weapons deal with smaller threats just as or more efficiently, its strength is in its versatility
honest acorn
Can the AC pen tanks from the front?
stone bridge
Hell no
junior badge
probably best jack-of-all-trades support, although at a cost.
Scythe is best joat primary, imo.
stone bridge
It takes them out in three shots to the heat sink, though
Which makes lets them rapidly flank and kill a tank
random socket
Can autocannon take down dropships
wind arrow
oh yeah has there been any situation where it's justified to turn full auto on for AC?
stone bridge
Can autocannon take down dropships
Nope
random socket
Quasar has been a godsend for all the dropships this liberation
stone bridge
At least, whenever I've tried, it can't - pretty certain the engines are heavy armour
random socket
One of the few automaton units where hitting the red glowy bit is sub-optimal
stone bridge
Lmao, yeah
Anyway, apologies for being a "that weapon" defender but I honestly think the AC is fine overall
random socket
I've found AC to be pretty balanced for the reasons you said, though like I said after I'm using quasar a lot for dropships and gunships atm
Against bugs AC is really useful but doesn't exactly stop the real nasties
rough ravine
I'm a newbie by I really like the AC for taking down auto mediums
Devs, scout walkers etc
random socket
I'm only level 34 i think tbf
rough ravine
I'm not even 20 xD
random socket
but i've done a helldive mission so there's that
tall nova
Can the grenade launcher take out a tank by hitting the turret?
sharp crater
only in the vent in the back, but yeah
stone bridge
If you hit the heatsinks, yeah
random socket
Hitting the heatsink is almost always the best thing
stone bridge
Though I'm not sure how many shots that takes
wind arrow
i now wonder if you can actually take a tank out from the front with a grenade launcher via arching your shot to hit the vent
sharp crater
it's like 3-4ish shots iirc?
meager saffron
you would need to do so much math
random socket
GL already has an arc
meager saffron
either you'd need to basically shoot it vert because you're too close or you'd need higher ground to get the correct lob
random socket
you would need to do so much math
I'm absolutely pro-firing a GL into the air to Kobe a tank
wind arrow
oh yeah GL shot is contact triggered after a distance?
random socket
That's extremely Helldivers
wind arrow
or how does GL richochet work? if it ever does it?
stone bridge
oh yeah GL shot is contact triggered after a distance?
It has a minimum arming range, afaik
wind arrow
i know from experience that it's not fuse
random socket
Right I'm misremembering sorry
sharp crater
alt-mode where you hold down the trigger to fire then release to detonate
random socket
I would love to see more remote det alt modes
meager saffron
i miss my fighting liion
sharp crater
haha
cobalt patrol
Serious answer: It's because a lot of this content is already in the live client, just not activated. it's the price of the devs being able to do the cool "hey helldivers, here's XYZ" stuff
stiff pine
"It is every citizen's final duty to go into the tanks and become one with all the people." - Chairman Sheng-ji Yang, "Ethics for Tomorrow"
always be posting SMAC quotes
quick plinth
otherwise they'd have to update the game every time they wanna give us something
but that wouldn't work that well because of the sony 1 week test thing
were any patch has to go through playstation testing by sony or something
ionic holly
Serious answer: It's because a lot of this content is already in the live client...
honestly?
it's worth it
because sure we can know what but we don't know when
hot meadow
Yeah it’s completely worth it
Since the audience is overwhelmingly happy with the game (like in the approval poll sense) the leaks are potentially even a net positive, since they produce hype
meager saffron
also creates some very funny opportunities for pre-balance testing
since hackers are out there just giving this shit to people randomly
honest acorn
Leaks are I think most frequently a kind of low budget marketing
ionic holly
Especially in this case because arrowhead can play into a bit with the ministry of truth and the likes
leakers? no no, privileged helldivers sharing new experimental tech
ionic holly
Good, welcome to the fight soldier
hazy oriole
Have fun!
god, after doing tons of bot missions in a row for the major order it feels nice to take a break and squish some bugs
ionic holly
leakers? no no, privileged helldivers sharing new experimental tech
another thing that helps the leaker situation: the story is still moment to moment per arrowhead's design, so you can't spoil story, just gear
hazy oriole
I'm really annoyed because I found a great team on diff 7 that collected tons of samples and overall had great comms and vibes and then my game crashed post-extract and I couldn't find them on the map again
ionic holly
Oooft that shit hurty
pastel igloo
we are off to a great start, they are already giving me the propaganda
blissful sparrow
that info text is a complete lie
pastel igloo
Linking your Steam account to a Playstation Network account is required for playing the game
granite rivet
heady halo
<@&1206091872716595200> calling helldivers! anyone down to dive?
heady halo
im not sure ive met anoyone whose actually linked their account lol
sharp crater
Gimme a few minutes and I'm down to dive
quick plinth
I had to make a PSN account because I was being silly and then like
I got told it was unneccary
not to mention there wasn't a PSN site nor could I pick for/ my country
heady halo
Hey ps4s a good not too pricey console and dvd player if you ever wanna pick one up lol
sharp crater
I linked mine because, well, I already had one and it was relatively easy
heady halo
that things got bloodborne!
quick plinth
now I'm looking for ways to unlink
sharp crater
but good to know that it's skippable for those that don't
heady halo
gimme an @ when you are ready to dive!
sharp crater
gimme an @ when you are ready to dive!
good to go!
oblique hazel
I can hop in for a dive as well if y'all have room
pastel igloo
got my ship, the Whisper of Twilight
heady halo
yeahhhhhh good name
barren reef
You ever show up literal days late to a conversation? 😔 Discord.
Anyways to folks asking how to blow up bot factories with the quasar: I've had the best luck aiming as low as possible in the vent hole, the splash from the explosion is big enough to detonate the factory.
This method has issues when the factory is significantly above you however.
honest acorn
I think they're just slowly passing them out
keen zinc
Almost done with the work week
pastel igloo
ah ok
keen zinc
Soon I can be a helldiver again and stave off the existential dread and misery
pastel igloo
i would really like the malevelon cape
keen zinc
For another week
pastel igloo
Malevelon Creek is the only place i've played on so far
helldiving onto a automaton planet first thing
for Super Earth and Managed Democracy
heady halo
oh damn thats a trial by fire
pastel igloo
i'm not on Malevelon
keen zinc
Literally
pastel igloo
i think it's been liberated
keen zinc
Ye
pastel igloo
where is Hellmire
pastel igloo
i'll go there immediately to spread democracy
keen zinc
Enjoy the scenery that is trying to kill you
pastel igloo
for Super Earth and Managed Democracy
honest acorn
Hellmire is I think the worst rn
keen zinc
No other planet is actively trying to kill you as hard
honest acorn
Shoutout to Maia with the maze like walls and falling meteors though
keen zinc
Hellmire has two modes:
can't see shit
can see everything and its bad
stone bridge
Hot planets are absolute ass to fight on
hot meadow
finally bothered to unlock quasar
is it worth running eats with it if no one else bringing them
pastel igloo
keen zinc
Hot planets are absolute ass to fight on
Eh I like Erata
It's homey
Whenever the sandstorms clear up it's like the Mojave
keen zinc
is it worth running eats with it if no one else bringing them
Yes
Eats are always a good pick
pastel igloo
dropping right onto a brood commander
keen zinc
Gaming
Fori gotta be one of my favorite planets so far
Badlands as fuck
Why would anyone want to live there
I gotta wonder what the super earth colonist incentive package is like
cobalt patrol
You might. (might get your citizen ship ugpraded to clas C!
keen zinc
Wowie! Normally you have to die in military service to get that class for your surviving family!
I gotta wonder how many classes there are
Because of being upgraded to C for mission success or death in service, there must exist a D class
dusky solar
RE: the Autocannon chatter earlier, as someone whos mained it for a long time, t...
i don't think the downsides do enough to make it not best for almost everything. I think the nerf it probably deserves is less AOE on its shots
you can cover crowd control with scorcher or something else
sinful bay
1 club!
1 club!
dusky solar
i hope we get remote explosives
sinful bay
i hope we get remote explosives
DRILLER GANG
dusky solar
nothing like lobbing c4 and then blowing it midair to do trickshots
pastel igloo
mission completed
going back to Vandalon IV to participate in its defence from the Automaton menace
stone bridge
i don't think the downsides do enough to make it *not* best for almost everythin...
I don't agree, but alright
cobalt patrol
Can the AC pen tanks from the front?
No. Vent for Annhilator, turret anywhere but the front plating for Shredder tanks.
honest acorn
That's my recollection
It's why I was wondering why it was praised so much for tank killing
When the Quasar/RR/EAT can 2 shot from the front
pastel igloo
for some reason the game is utterly obliterating my CPU so i lowered all the settings significantly
cobalt patrol
Yeah, i like autocannon because it's flexible and generally doesnt have bad matchups
but it has very few amazing/good matchups either. Striders is probably the highlight
(one tap into the crotch)
honest acorn
for some reason the game is utterly obliterating my CPU so i lowered all the set...
It's a pretty CPU hungry game
pastel igloo
yeah
meager saffron
with difficulty
cobalt patrol
Hellbomb
stiff pine
it tanked like, 4 air strikes
honest acorn
I've had the most luck by dropping a hellbomb in the trench around them
pastel igloo
had fun with the missions i did
honest acorn
I think 380s can but have yet to test this
heady halo
EITHER
hellbomb
OR
knock an airship onto it
heady halo
for some reason the game is utterly obliterating my CPU so i lowered all the set...
yeah im on lowest graphics for everything lol
and it still becomes a little slideshowey sometimes
also theres a free space in activity one for any <@&1206091872716595200> looking to squad up!
heady halo
i think that was filled up already 😭 sorry freyja
for future reference, jump in voice, then you gotta ask for a helldivers friendcode from whoever is hosting
input the code you are given into the "search" space on the social menu, and select the one option to send a friend request
the requested person then has to accept the request
then they can send you an invite or you can join on them from the social menu
pastel igloo
👍
heady halo
i will keep a space open for you if im around tommorow!
and you are also around tommorow
lol
pastel igloo
yeah lol
heady halo
i might away from my laptop for a few days
pastel igloo
i will hop into one last automaton mission i guess since i want to try completing the personal order i have
heady halo
...god, itl be till saturday, this is the first time in YEARS ive CARED about missing out on playing a game 😄
gl!
pastel igloo
just need to kill bots with the new gun i got
heady halo
ooo
honest acorn
just need to kill bots with the new gun i got
I'll be playing in about an hour if you still are
heady halo
watcha got
pastel igloo
I'll be playing in about an hour if you still are
unfortunately it is 1:30 and i need to get up at 8 tomorrow so i will be doing this last mission
pastel igloo
watcha got
Stalwart
keen zinc
...god, itl be till saturday, this is the first time in YEARS ive CARED about mi...
This game makes me feel like a decade ago fr
Only games that come close we're super niche things like Kenshi and that game is NOT a marvel of impeccable design, it is a marvel of insanity
pastel igloo
for managed democracy!
unkempt river
<@&1206091872716595200> anyone up for starting a second lobby?
idle hollow
Aim for the legs
JAR rounds damage the legs
It’s like three shots into a scout striders leg
To down the walker
Then just finish the trooper piloting it off
Either with the dominator or your sidearm
heady halo
also, god, i used the antimat for the first time earlier, and its so good??
its the only weapon ive used that lets me just solve devestators, heavies, hulks
pastel igloo
automatons in shambles
heady halo
just actually hit them in the weakpoint and remove the threat
pastel igloo
also me a little bit
pastel igloo
a helldiver could never retreat from automaton scum
unfortunately advancing on them is not always the best strategy
heady halo
lmao
unkempt river
lol
pastel igloo
got got by being rushed and exploded
heady halo
some times you have to take you allocated rest period, and spend 2.5 seconds saluting in your hellpod
pastel igloo
i've yet to retreat from one of the big chainsaw lads though
oh yeah the Helldivers sticker i've had on my ps4 controller for several years now finally has some meaning
Also this pin
dusky solar
Aim for the legs
i think i still strongly prefer scorcher vs bots
strange vine
I think 380s can but have yet to test this
They don't
craggy lagoon
Also this pin
Man I would love this pin
honest acorn
They don't
Shame
glacial light
I tried the incendiary mines and they feel nice and very very visible
Maybe they'll be something i'll use if they fix fire damage for non-hosts
Anyone want to start a second squad <@&1206091872716595200>
pastel igloo
Man I would love this pin
It's a cool pin
oak crow
hey, does the SEAF SAM actually do anything?
meager saffron
shoots down dropships
sharp crater
they have an area of effect. if the dropship is too far from the SAM, it doesn't do anything. Too many dropships can also overwhelm it afaik
glacial light
RIP no helldivers for me connection issues again
unkempt river
they have an area of effect. if the dropship is too far from the SAM, it doesn't...
And it has... 16? or so shots before it's out
sharp crater
hm! I didn't know that
unkempt river
yeah, it has some number of tubes, each holds 1 missile, once you're out, you're out
I forget how many tubes tho
oblique hazel
slot just opened @glacial light if you can fix your connection issues
graceful bluff
If it's considered several different hitboxes on the tracks, a quesadilla might turbowreck it if shot from the front or back
Also people vastly overestimate the lethality of being in a 380 zone
I ran into an egg nest, dropped both my 120 and 380 at my feet while dodging the 50 fuckin' bugs in there and made it out fine :v
honest acorn
It’s just a matter of odds
graceful bluff
Simply don't believe you'll get hit and you won't get hit
honest acorn
I had the first shell of my 380 splatter the helldiver 65 meters away from the center yesterday
rare nymph
I can operate within my own 380 zones, but my teammates alway immediately get splattered
glacial light
I want to try it out immediately
rare nymph
Its pretty fun
glacial light
Unless rockets still one shot break the shield
undone veldt
So I got launched into the ground again and I found pelican 1 while down there
rare nymph
Unless rockets still one shot break the shield
They don't, but they'll toss you around
glacial light
That's fine apparently they added wrisg straps to shield so it doesn't drop all the tine
rare nymph
I did pretty much the same loadout as the video, but brought Fortified Commando to be the chonkiest lad
glacial light
We have a tank now
rare nymph
You really can tank - so long as you don't end up in a mission where its "oops, all rocket devs!"
eager pine
Can't tell if they're mispronouncing Malevalon Creak on purpose, cause it'd make total sense for someone who doesn't know anything about Helldivers to replace a fake word with a real one that sounds similar. https://youtu.be/xw-ent-tI5w?si=Ns3ZIgLasBgOYq1q
glad marsh
<@&1206091872716595200> anyone up for a few drops?
I'll join up, computer's gotta update for a bit though
glad marsh
I'll hop on when it's done 
kindred lintel
Plasma punisher does work
strange vine
@keen zinc i managed to get my hands on a rip of the terminid models and you were right about there being 2 different bile spewer models; theres a tier 1 and tier 2 variant with slightly different textures
tier 1 on left, tier 2 on right
theres also 2 tiers of warriors
graceful bluff
Does the ballistic shield take the same spot as a railgun/arc thrower etc, or does it take the spot of a backpack
kindred lintel
backpack
graceful bluff
hm I might wanna start running it in bot missions then
shy prairie
1-handed support weapon when
graceful bluff
Let me one hand any support weapon at the cost of my arm breaking
cobalt patrol
@stone bridge @honest acorn Let me know if a slot opens up in like.. half an hour or so?
primal river
Can't tell if they're mispronouncing Malevalon Creak on purpose, cause it'd make...
This is how I have been mostly pronouncing it in my head (no t though)
ionic holly
1-handed support weapon when
Explosive flechette SMG
glad marsh
<@166290470530580480> <@255907872993574923> Let me know if a slot opens up in li...
we have a slot now!
a whole hour later..
honest acorn
The Quasar feels so weird on ice maps
Longer charge up + shorter cool down makes it basically a different weapon
stone bridge
I've honestly not been a Quasar fan overall
glad marsh
I've gotta get a proper feel for it
But I might just prefer EATs personally
honest acorn
I like it since it does a lot of things the spear does but without a backpack
I think that’s actually my closest comparison
oblique hazel
I swear the cooldown isn't actually shorter on ice planets for it, just the bar on the hud
stone bridge
Its good into bugs but you really feel the lack of anti strider firepower into bots, and if you take an anti strider primary you don't do great into Devastators/have ammo econ issues depending on your choice
oblique hazel
but I'm still quite a big fan of it overall
honest acorn
I find that it and the plasma punisher cover most enemies pretty well
pale remnant
It's so good at swatting gunships for bots, though
honest acorn
Except heavy devs at long range
glad marsh
Except heavy devs at long range
Well that's why you have a friend with an autocannon
stone bridge
I'm slowly becoming AMR pilled into bots
It was always goated into them and with the buffs you lose less ammo into heatsinks on hard targets
pale remnant
The standout of the patch to me has been the liberator penetrator. I liked it before but with full auto now its awesome
glad marsh
I'm lukewarm on it, but I used it against bugs which I suspect is not where it shines
pale remnant
I think it handles pretty well against bugs tbh. The larger ones normally have medium armour that the lib pen really likes shooting into
and full auto also makes it better at dealing with the swarms which are fairly common with them, too
honest acorn
For me it’s the Diligence Countersniper
Went from imo the second worst primary to really good vs bots
meager saffron
I have never enjoyed the AMR but I admit that was mostly irritation at the scope
I trust the buffs probably make it much better
honest acorn
I haven’t used it on bugs but I imagine it’s too unwieldy vs hordes
pale remnant
I have never enjoyed the AMR but I admit that was mostly irritation at the scope
I wish you could noscope with it easier
same with the heavy machine gun
honest acorn
For me it’s the Diligence Countersniper
It now 2 taps any devastator with head shots
Which I kind of suck at getting on console aim but
That’s not really the gun’s fault
stone bridge
The Stalwart is basically an Ascended Primary, imo
honest acorn
I think the Stalwart would feel way better if it had hit markers
Otherwise it feels sort of bad to me since it’s once of very few support weapons which don’t penetrate medium armor
Which is often what I need my support weapon to do
Actually with the laser cannon buff is there any other support weapon which doesn’t pen medium?
I think it’s the only one
And while it’s really handy and has a shitload of ammo it feels weird to need a specialized primary
Though using it with the dominator or something is probably decent
pastel igloo
I found it good but then again it's the only weapon i've unlocked so far
It's that and the starter weapons i have access to
honest acorn
It’s good I think just not good for me
It’s also kind of miserable on a bile map for bugs
But frankly a lot of things are
pastel igloo
I like big mag so it good for me
honest acorn
I’m also biased cause I just came out of using it on a bile map
And the big bile spewers are mostly immune to it from the front and take like 100+ bullets to the sides to kill
stone bridge
the upgraded biles you find on 6+ are genuinely hard targets if you don't have explosives, yeah
pastel igloo
And the big bile spewers are mostly immune to it from the front and take like 10...
That makes sense
I started playing yesterday so
Not much experience with tougher content
honest acorn
Upgraded bile spewers are also just a really extreme enemy
junior badge
Though using it with the dominator or something is probably decent
Still underwhelming imo, as it struggles even against devastators, so you have to constantly swap back and forth.
honest acorn
2 autocannon or GL shots will kill them on the other hand
junior badge
Which you don't have to do if you pick any other combo.
So you can take one gun, deal with a couple of threats, then swap for a specific situation.
pastel igloo
I'll unlock better guns with more playtime so i'm looking forward to that
honest acorn
The good news is that pretty much every support weapon is good
The stalwart is also solid
I know some people swear by it
junior badge
Yeah, that's fair.
honest acorn
Personally I like the MMG more
junior badge
Same. Although my go-to support at the moment is the quasar, at least when soloing.
rough ravine
I was running around soloing 2s for samples
and oof
Would have rather had the standard MG
The hit markers weren't the problem, it was the low pen and low damage
Doesn't always onetaop troopers to the head
only reccommendation for it is the mag size really
junior badge
Tbf, the solution for that is high RPM and relying on theah size.
Fire three shot bursts instead of individual bullets, basically.
barren iron
Can't tell if they're mispronouncing Malevalon Creak on purpose, cause it'd make...
They're pronouncing it almost correctly. I have heard people pronounce it Male-velon creek before, so it could be way worse
royal lantern
Gahdamn the gunship fabricators are a pain to destroy. I don't entirely mind needing hellbombs for it, in fact I feel like some other objectives that you can smash with stratagems could stand to be hellbomb only too just to make it a little dicier dealing with them, but it feels like it's only hellbombs almost touching them and the gunship rockets destroy the bombs way too easily
alpine seal
estanu gets a defense campaign won and then another defense campaign called in the span of about an hour
something is wrong about that
pastel igloo
Sisyphus time
royal lantern
Did you think there would ever be an end to the forever war?
alpine seal
fair point
stone bridge
Never
pastel igloo
Did you think there would ever be an end to the forever war?
yes
Super Earth will win
hexed steeple
super earth will win forever. which why it neesd there to be a war forever
pastel igloo
that is true
Super Earth will stand eternal as a bastion of freedom, liberty and managed democracy
the Super Earth propaganda people are really good
Ministry of Truth got hands
keen zinc
<@&1206091872716595200> anytone wanna helldiving?
merry cosmos
<@&1206091872716595200> anytone wanna helldiving?
👍
unkempt river
I will hope to join for a little while later. (circa 60-75 minutes)
muted burrow
freyja helldivin! 
pastel igloo
For Super Earth
glacial light
super earth will win forever. which why it neesd there to be a war forever
The war is really good for the economy and the trout population agrees
hexed steeple
[watching 3 hulks drop at the same time] this will be great for the economy
pastel igloo
Trout enlist in the Helldivers corps
keen zinc
[watching 3 hulks drop at the same time] this will be great for the economy
loads autocannon and prays to ranald
hexed steeple
who
keen zinc
the god of chance and luck
<@&1206091872716595200> we need two more
we're gonna fight bugs for a change
yohan isnt playing just hanging out
so we need 1 more
idle hollow
petah... the horse is here...
rich marlin
What difficulties do these striders spawn at?
strange vine
What difficulties do these striders spawn at?
7+
thats the lowest ive encountered them
glacial light
Trout enlist in the Helldivers corps
Enlist? No we can't ask fish to serve, they're who the algorithm is voting for
Our hands are rough like so their fins are soft
Always be thinking of the trout population
mortal wing
kindred lintel
Okay I can safely say that after 20 hours of use plasma punisher + guard dog is the definitive bug combo. Pair with quasar or eats and some anti armor strat(s). Does aoe fantastically, deals with hiveguards easily. On 8's it was pulling ~750 kills on average.
Side note: Terrible for bots, they are too spread out and are very "thin", making them harder to hit.
PPS: Needs a few hours to get used to the arc, I use defender armor
dusky solar
Arc thrower is quite good vs bots now
glacial light
I actually do like punisher plasma against bots since it deals with med bots well between stagger and penetration
dusky solar
Okay I can safely say that after 20 hours of use plasma punisher + guard dog is ...
I've been looking for a new bug gun after arc thrower got changed. They buffed the full charge time, even while they removed the half charge mechanic
So it wasn't a 40% dps loss like i thought, it comes out to like 20%
Also my spiciest take is that autocannon sentry is a top tier pick on basically all missions
dusky solar
Used it a TON yesterday
kindred lintel
It melts chargers and bile titans especially
dusky solar
I actually tried something very goofy vs bugs, orbital gatling
I think it might be the strongest "throw this at a breach"
kindred lintel
it does the job
dusky solar
Shame you really want elite-busting power in your stratagem slots
I would love a primary with extremely low ammo but kills heavy armor elites. That way you could move your "horde clear" and "elite busting" stuff around to different parts of your loadout
rare nymph
I like Gatling barrage against bots
dusky solar
As it is now it's pretty strict, your back slot is almost always elite busting unless you're playing in a team
rare nymph
I find it breaks up groups of devastators pretty well
dusky solar
Noice
Eagle airstrike + orbital rail + orbital laser + autocannon with scorcher and senator is i think the best bot loadout if you're responding to distress beacons rn?
AMR is also good if you want uh, jetpack? Shield?
pastel igloo
Oh yeah i unlocked Heavy armor yesterday before i went to bed so i have access to light medium and heavy now
dusky solar
Yay! The heavy armor with 30% less sway / 50% explosive resist is awesome
pastel igloo
Going to wear the heavy armor cause i like being a tank
dusky solar
It's pretty bad vs bugs b/c it doesn't really do anything but make you slower, but vs bots it's excellent
honest acorn
I really like the blast resist heavy armor vs bots but vs bugs the extra run speed is nice
dusky solar
The main thing i miss about not running scout armor is enemies showing up on scans at your map pins
A squad people with scout armor can have up to 8 "pins"
honest acorn
It’s definitely noticeable in terms of protection vs bugs but you tend to die anyway if a bunch get on you and you don’t have heavy medic armor
rare nymph
My general fit is heavy armor for bots, light for bugs
dusky solar
You still get two shot headshot by a hunter at random so
I do agree that heavy armor can definitely save you from a couple bug hits
But it's a much better option to run away faster
cobalt patrol
I'm am edium fan for bugs and bots
pastel igloo
It's pretty bad vs bugs b/c it doesn't really do anything but make you slower, b...
Speed is only good for running away and i could never run from Terminids
cobalt patrol
the mobility and defence miux is Just Right
dusky solar
You'll learn as you get to higher tiers haha, bugs require a good amount of kiting sometimes, especially solo
pastel igloo
Just like how i could never run from a filthy automaton with chainsaw arms full tilt sprinting at me
honest acorn
I'm am edium fan for bugs and bots
I’ve been really liking the medium armor with extra padding they give out at the start
Very enticing mix of speed and protection
cobalt patrol
I’ve been really liking the medium armor with extra padding they give out at the...
I prefer Fortified into b ots because the explos res is sso big
pastel igloo
I prolly won't play much on higher difficulties cause that requires optimized play which does not please the brain meat
cobalt patrol
It really doesnt.
It just requires being decent.
It's just most people are really bad at this game <.<
at least in randos.
but like, most of the strat is just putting stuff together that works well t ogteher
rare nymph
It just takes getting used to, really
cobalt patrol
If that coutns as optimizing then ???
Like my bug go-to is currently Punisher/Flamethrower/500kg/impacts with medic armor
the rest varies a chunk
rare nymph
I bumped up from 7 to 8 and it was kicking my ass at first
keen zinc
hell yeah
honest acorn
I don’t really have a set loadout I’ve found that pretty much anything works if I have at least 1 thing which kills small stuff well and at least 1 thing which kills bigger things well
pastel igloo
If i am thinking about anything but sweet sweet liberty and the glory of managed democracy then i've failed Super Earth
I like putting myself into a game by adopting a fitting mindset so i have more fun playing casually in games like Helldivers 2
cobalt patrol
I don’t really have a set loadout I’ve found that pretty much anything works if ...
Yeah, it's just the flow of how things pair together i care aboput
mathcing Support weapon to primary weapon is an art
junior badge
I actually tried something very goofy vs bugs, orbital gatling
I've used both it and Strafing Run a lot, because having a low CD, easy to use, "I need some space right now" strat is actually pretty valuable.
With even one other helldiver you can cover the big threats easily well enough to spare that one slot.
blissful sparrow
For space keeping i am a simp for EMS strike.
It lasts so long, has a good cooldown and can disable everything up to BTs/Tanks
honest acorn
Last mission I did we literally all took it I think it might be appropriately rated now
But yeah its really good and kind of slept on
junior badge
None of these can solve a mission all by themselves (they can't destroy fabs/holes or big stuff), but you can use them infinitely and very freely to just... Make some space.
junior badge
Last mission I did we literally all took it I think it might be appropriately ra...
Ooh, cool!
honest acorn
It's so good for "I don't want to deal with this bug breach right now"
junior badge
Yep
blissful sparrow
also funky that Airburst counts as explosive, so it can just shred Hulks if you get them to face the outside of the map
dusky solar
Orb laser vs bots is too good not to take
But if i were to drop anything from my bot strats i'd drop it precisely because it's too good
junior badge
Hm. I like it, but have been avoiding it for a bit because it's only 3 uses and high CD...
Like, it's objectively amazing.
But it's one where I'm worried about calling it in the wrong moment.
dusky solar
It can solo clear most bases, so it's like, "oh wow i'm in a big fight, panic button, run"
And you'll get like a x30 or so
junior badge
Yeah, and then you notice that your buddy had called a 500kg in just seconds before, solving most of the issue...
But that's balancing, after all.
dusky solar
Because it destroys turret towers, fabricators, etc, it's great if there's a base in your way that needs to quickly be gone. And at extract it can solo an entire wave of enemies. Also great on seismic missions
junior badge
Yeah, I do love it on the seismics.
dusky solar
When you have 12 of them it becomes an ultra powerful stratagem
glacial light
Airburst is great but it's cone is so wonky with elevation and if you throw it high up then its range is deceptively huge and will teamkill
dusky solar
Airburst is great but it's cone is so wonky with elevation and if you throw it h...
I think you mean "throwing it up high results in an increased AOE with absolutely no downsides, right?
glacial light
Oh yea even going up like 10m on a hill you can effectively double the AoE at the bottom it feels like
I bring it for eggs but I usually get at least 1 person who thought they were safe
When it gets caught on a hill
dusky solar
I've never tried that but i'm quite excited to now
lunar jetty
It appears reinforcements are currently bugged
glacial light
It's great for eggs cause it hits straight down and doesn't hit at an angle so it can easily get most of the eggs in on go
lunar jetty
1 mission where I couldn't respawn, 1 mission where nothing happened after squad wipe
stoic lotus
I feel like the airburst shots sometimes ricochet or something
you can be safe for a bit and then suddenly not safe
keen zinc
keen zinc
machine gun highlighted for being interchangeable
i must prepare to go to costco
then i shall return and helldive
blissful sparrow
1 mission where I couldn't respawn, 1 mission where nothing happened after squad...
old bug, been around since the beginning
junior badge
I'd just like to say that I love the little touch that the terminals can be from different companies with different color schemes
dusky solar
https://youtu.be/URGUwvk82Bw?si=gi0H1-ku8eMC5uqx
I will never not repost this
lunar jetty
old bug, been around since the beginning
damn, hadn't experienced it before
dusky solar
I'd just like to say that I love the little touch that the terminals can be from...
I just noticed a corn company logo on one, i wonder if this was a recent change
junior badge
Yeah, Cob Genetics has buttons go Red->Yellow, for example.
Hah! No, this has been around from the start, I'm pretty sure.
I've seen it forever.
honest acorn
It's just sort of rare I think
glacial light
I like how magazines with bullets you can see how empty they are after you've reloade
Me prone on the ground to see if my teammates have been wasting undemocratic unused bullets
copper crest
honest acorn
aw fuck
sinful bay
The leaks were correct them?
honest acorn
I mostly used hazop armor in HD1
I have been marketed to
Also thermite grenades look cool
undone veldt
Fuck I just used 1K super credits to get steeled veterans
kindred lintel
this fucks
orchid pulsar
aw hell yeah
junior badge
Tech I just learned:
You can throw stratagem balls into vents.
Including resupply, which then hellpods the fabricator.
(had all my other strats on CD and packed Impacts, which are annoying to get in the vents.)
stoic lotus
I do it to bug holes if I don't have anything for them but I didn't know it worked on fabs too
glacial light
Same I also used it for bug holes but didn't think to use it on fabs
Despite me always dropping in on top of fabs to crush them
Whatever clamps our feet to hellpods seems to be made of the strongest materials
glad marsh
I feel like the airburst shots sometimes ricochet or something
They absolutely do.
Someone told me about a piece of shrapnel bouncing off a rock and hitting an ally
junior badge
I've only seen that happen with clusters, so far, tbh
graceful bluff
If those thermite grenades can be used to kill fabs/bugholes they're probably gonna be my new main
honest acorn
same probably
honest acorn
They absolutely do.
Someone told me about a piece of shrapnel bouncing off a roc...
I'm not sure if rocks deflect them but I know medium/heavy armor enemies do
Same as bullets
Or cluster munitions
Which have a nasty habit of going really far when they bounce off of a brood commander crest
wind arrow
in case yt is preferred: https://youtu.be/g122XN-DQoY
glad marsh
Oh hey
Is that explosive gun shooting cluster munitions?
pastel igloo
another successful mission against the automaton menace
could have done without my guy bombing me so many times
glad marsh
Also adjucator has me excited :D
heady halo
i wanna know what slot the grenade pistol is and if it works with shield....
glad marsh
Alas.. no Justice or trident yet but I will hold out hope my old friends will come back
heady halo
i hope its support
heady halo
ooooh seconday also rules
heady halo
my hope was to be able to go submachine gun + senator + grenade launcher + shield
but i guess not.....pls on handed support weapon....
ah well will still rule
now i have to choose explosive or steel....
pastel igloo
unlocked the eagle cluster bomb so i can complete one of those personal goals
honest acorn
I think democratic detonation is probably going to be the stronger one
Though a lot of steeled vets is really good now
I think just the concussive liberator is kind of ehh
heady halo
didnt it get buffed?
graceful bluff
I just want more one handed primaries
pastel igloo
think imma keep fighting on the automaton fronts
rapid plover
the grenade pistol is going to be huge
kindred lintel
unlocked the eagle cluster bomb so i can complete one of those personal goals
those goals are squad wide btw
pastel igloo
oh neat
graceful bluff
ohgod it's a cluster bomb daily? time for my teamkill count to go up by like ten
pastel igloo
lets gooooo
rapid plover
having a way to pop holes/fabricators in your secondary slot is really good
kindred lintel
once the burning bug is fixed ill go back to the fire breaker
plasma punisher by beloved
pastel igloo
what do i do if a thing is jammed
kindred lintel
you kill the thing jamming it
glacial light
Sometimes jammers have a fab that's attached to it and you just throw an explosive into it
glacial light
Otherwise they have to be deactivated at a terminal then destroyed
naive dragon
I want that grenade pistol and thermite grenade so bad
sinful bay
Good thing my salary drops day 11
"You can just farm"
I have time/energy to play 2~3 mission tops during the work week days
plz
pastel igloo
glacial light
My thing is medals
I accrued a ton of medals and almost unlocked everything now early on but I'm playing less cause life so like I'm slowly falling behind
The pace of new warbonds being released
heady halo
Good thing my salary drops day 11
"You can just farm"
I have time/energy to play...
similar place but i am just going slowly lmao
its taken me a couple of weeks to nearly get enough credits for a bond
ill get there slowly
sinful bay
true
graceful bluff
The way I see it, I need to farm about equally to get the medals for the warbond and to get the super credits
glacial light
I pay to convenience since I don't grind SC or play often to get 1000 every month
But SC doesn't help when you don't have medals to unlock new stufd
cobalt patrol
Grenade pistol opens up so so many options
consider: Flamethrower, Stun Grenades, Grenade Pistol.
Bugs are having a BAD day with that load out
dusty spruce
in case yt is preferred: https://youtu.be/g122XN-DQoY
ah so that is where my hazard ops lookalike went
heady halo
i havent really farmed at all i think, i just, get what i get and itl take as long as it takes
hmmm i wanna try the shield backpack next
heavy armour, shield backpack, one of the explosion guns from steel or the new bond. space marine build
dusty spruce
The dominator from Steeled is maybe the closest, if Space Marine is the feeling you want. Especially since I heard it just got a slight buff
honest acorn
It's more than slight
But it is pretty good now
(got buffed from 200 to 300 damage)
junior badge
hell yes it does
glacial light
hmmm i wanna try the shield backpack next
Shield pack with heavy armor on bots is very tanky, if I die more than once on a bot mission wearing that I think about my life
junior badge
so nice for staggering rocket and heavy devs
honest acorn
Yeah it used to have shockingly little stagger
quick plinth
dunno why they gave it stagger
honest acorn
I think that was just a function of the boosted damage
I think damage has like a baseline stagger and then there's a stagger stat on top of that?
idk
it's pretty unclear
quick plinth
ah
heady halo
so nice for staggering rocket and heavy devs
god the new anti material has been amazing for that
i dont even have to stagger
just one shot them
honest acorn
I find that kind of funny because I really struggle to use the Dominator at long range
glacial light
The best stagger is death
heady halo
the backpack is a weakspot for the heavy devs btw i think
honest acorn
The red dot and 1 mph bullets make it tricky
honest acorn
though maybe my idea of long range is different
heady halo
honest acorn
At least they don't seem to drop so you can get heavy devs well
junior badge
Yeah, but I can also just slam bullets into their gun arm at mid-range, and it stops them from taking over the battlefield.
honest acorn
Since they just sit their menacing me with machine guns
quick plinth
but I feel like my WT experience gives me an advantage since judging distance and aiming projectiles of various velocities at moving targets is like 75% of early ground tree gameplay
dusky solar
it basically works like the old slugger
oblique storm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GE8SpUEE1Uw
Clearly an freak ball lightning accident due to that planet's atmospheric conditions
dusky solar
it's really cool, and at range it's a bit tricky to learn the lead
oblique storm
don't spread fake news smh..................................
honest acorn
Yeah the nonlinear speed makes it tricky
dusky solar
dominator's so good now though. the magdump having 1.5x its old damage is great vs the berserkers
kindred lintel
its still so sluggish to aim, though
dusky solar
also does it like..... shoot through bugs?
it feels like it's killing more than one thing at a time
kindred lintel
its explosive so
sour whale
it has some splash damage, yeah
dusky solar
yeah but that's not quite what i mean
more like uhhhh it's penetrating THROUGH stuff and hitting things behind
dusky solar
right, that's why it can't frontally kill walkers in the same way as the scorcher
or plasma punisher
honest acorn
also does it like..... shoot through bugs?
It does I think, a lot of things do
graceful bluff
Yeah overpen is a thing
honest acorn
The smaller bugs seem to barely slow bullets down
graceful bluff
you really see it with the libpen
dusky solar
man i played liberator penetrator yesterday and it felt Really OK
i was kinda hoping it'd be better vs hive guards
also the grenade launcher secondary is gonna be so good
free bug hole popping and fab destroying
honest acorn
It's been a bit since I used it vs bugs but IIRC it makes a large difference if you hit them in the lower portion of their head near the teeth or higher up
dusky solar
good ambush weapon for light enemy patrols
yeah, the lower part of the face on hive guards is way weaker, sometimes i can't really hit that though because it's SO low to the ground and there's rocks, terrain, etc
dominator slaps them, it's crazy
pastel igloo
is this implying that i'm using free trial software for my orbital weapon targeting
honest acorn
yeah it takes them a while to aim them because they have to click out of the popups
rapid plover
is this implying that i'm using free trial software for my orbital weapon target...
Yes, anc they are also front loaded
Until you upgrade more
pastel igloo
incredible
graceful bluff
And even then, you only upgrade them to be breech loaded, which is still outside the ship, it's just closer to the hatch
which is why it's only a 10% cooldown decrease
dusky solar
i wonder when the next tranche of stratagems comes out
i still really want more vehicles
graceful bluff
I feel like we'll probably see the anti air stratagems either this weekend or early next week
idle hollow
I accrued a ton of medals and almost unlocked everything now early on but I'm pl...
i'm at the last tier of the free one and steeled vets
still buying stuff from the second tier of cutting edge iirc
dusky solar
i bet if you don't run autocannon, the eagle air to air will be great vs gunships
idle hollow
the late tier medal requirements are fucking painful though
dusky solar
yes, does the single pellet still kill?
idle hollow
like, it's 100 medals for the Scorcher
honest acorn
needs a moment of burn damage but yes
dusky solar
yeah, it's so good. we had a mission with 3x shrieker nests and we spawned in range of one of them
ONE person with breaker incendiary was enough to hold off the hordes while we blew up the nests with a single quasar
heady halo
is this implying that i'm using free trial software for my orbital weapon target...
yeah it rules
dusky solar
(the other people were fighting the patrol that walked into us) lmao
heady halo
every cannon shot gets a "please download the official release" printed on the side
graceful bluff
The breaker incendiary not being a shotgun but a fucking cluster area denial tool is still great
graceful bluff
dropships
oblique lotus
fair
graceful bluff
And I still feel like they'll work on bile titans
dusky solar
gunships can be hard to hit with non-autocannon non-spear support weapons
dusky solar
but they spawn in such small numbers and are generally non threatening
quick plinth
I mean sure the gunships move sometimes but like, they also hover in place like fools (premium heli players)
dusky solar
xD
quick plinth
I wonder if the gatling turret can take them out
dusky solar
i bet autocannon turret can xD
glad marsh
Don't the gunships have vehicle armor though?
dusky solar
if it looks up
glad marsh
Oh yeah autocannon for sure
quick plinth
I managed to kill one with a dominator
dusky solar
yeah they do on their main body
quick plinth
granted I aimed for the thrusters
glad marsh
I managed to kill one with a dominator
Might've been the explosive doing the job then?
But that's interesting
How many shots did it take?
dusky solar
thruster nacelles have less armor
the little engine pods
so you can kill them with one or two primaries
hold on
ohdough's voice and tone annoy the crap outta me but he has a good video on the gunships
where he tests a TON of different weapons on them
quick plinth
How many shots did it take?
half a mag to the thrusters, accounting for misses
probably the explosive magnifying damage to weakspots
heady halo
oh shit the hmg can shred gunships https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7WF1M0xruY
dusky solar
also scorcher can shoot them down, but it takes like a full mag to the same engine
scorcher stays winning
stun nade + scorcher i think kills everything but tanks pretty handily, even hulks. you just zap them and then run to the back
glad marsh
fixed a broadcast tower by myself
Oh Freya, a lil tip to make those faster is just throwing an explosive at it and blowing up the tower
dusky solar
oh right! yeah you can shoot those towers from pretty far away too. can you kill them with any primaries?
pastel igloo
oh
dusky solar
i've never tried anything smaller than the autocannon on them
pastel igloo
i did not know this
pastel igloo
cool
dusky solar
spore spewers?
pastel igloo
i just solved the puzzle
dusky solar
and shrieker nests
graceful bluff
yeah any explosive just wrecks them
pastel igloo
also just had my first mission where we succeeded but i was dead
challenging was in fact challenging
glad marsh
oh right! yeah you can shoot those towers from pretty far away too. can you kill...
It's alright!
You can use grenades, so presumably the grenade pistol that's coming can probably get them. Big maybe on the dominator but I'm really unsure on that one
dusky solar
haha, "you know what they call a mission where you do the objective but die? A VICTORY FOR SUPER EARTH!"
pastel igloo
my life for Super Earth
dusky solar
i really wonder if i'll use the grenade pistol
pastel igloo
my life for liberty and for managed democracy
dusky solar
because it's amazingly good, but often i run the scorcher, and that has Issues when you shoot point blank enemies
so the redeemer and the senator are both great as backups
senator in particular is so amazing for bots lol
pastel igloo
are boosters one time use or reusable
dusky solar
reusable forever!
pastel igloo
neat
dusky solar
the best ones for solo are the one that lets you sprint more, the one that gives you more HP, and if you're on a world full of snow and you don't want to be miserable, the muscle boosters LOL
graceful bluff
they're basically just a modifier you bring in yeah
dusky solar
the muscle booster has been so clutch on vandalon
oh right where are we supposed to fight today
maia?
glad marsh
One I'd say is almost mandatory is the hellpod space optimization
But
Thinking about it
You can just call a resupply at spawn
pastel igloo
oh right where are we supposed to fight today
major order for automatons
as far as i can tell at least
dusky solar
oh did the major order planets destabilize?
honest acorn
hellpod space is great just for having full stims and grenades during shit's fucked moments
glad marsh
Yeah no I think it's still basically an auto-take
dusky solar
space optimization is really good, i don't think there's anything wrong with running it
graceful bluff
Yeah space optimization exponentially gets better the more you die
honest acorn
Then I think either localization confusion or more stamina is best
dusky solar
i think it varies bugs vs bots too
graceful bluff
It honestly shoudl just be baked in
dusky solar
like vs bugs more stamina = more alive
pastel igloo
graceful bluff
so we can run some of the more interesting ones
glad marsh
We're trying to wipe the bots off the map eh?
pastel igloo
ayup
dusky solar
well, anyway, i really like running bot 7s with localization confusion, vitality booster, muscle enhancer, and stamina booster. muscle enhancer gets swapped to something better if you're on a planet with less unfriendly terrain
pastel igloo
got some new armor so now i am orange
dusky solar
d r i p
broke: "optimize your armor for firepower"
woke: "optimize your armor for unique effects"
bespoke: "optimize your armor for looks"
naive dragon
What am I to do if the bots are gone
dusky solar
fight the illuminate
also after so long fighting bots i really think bugs are harder lol
orchid pulsar
<@&1206091872716595200> anyone wanna do some drip or dive?
dusky solar
bots are so easy to ignore
pastel igloo
broke: "optimize your armor for firepower"
woke: "optimize your armor for unique...
drip is the right of all sentient beings
naive dragon
There's one or two things i definitely hate about bugs but my main one they apparently balanced recently
(the one hit kill spit)
honest acorn
(the one hit kill spit)
yeah now it takes 2 hits
naive dragon
yeah now it takes 2 hits
That's twice as many hits
honest acorn
It is an undeniable improvement
naive dragon
I may just be a crybaby though because I hate player facing one hit kills in general
naive dragon
Not just this game just in general
honest acorn
I like that they can happen but I don't like it when it happens to me
dusky solar
i don't think it matters much for THIS specific game
because so many things kill you instantly
cobalt patrol
The smaller bugs seem to barely slow bullets down
Pretty sure it's based on the armour pen stat - So high armour pen is inclined to punch through multiple targets
honest acorn
That's likely
naive dragon
HD2 is mostly pretty forgiving in that area
Like most of the one hit kill sources either telegraph or have some other drawback
dusky solar
i'd still like to see helmets that can block headshot crits
naive dragon
Ye
dusky solar
but also
it should just be tied to armor
or else those helmets will become disproportionately important
dusky solar
yeah, also i am loathe to give up my explosive resist on heavy armor, but man the scout armor has the STRONGEST passive ever
like wow
naive dragon
In this galaxy it's drip or down, and helldiver I am floating
dusky solar
8 pins that can move almost anywhere
honest acorn
I think medic armor competes with it for passive
honest acorn
I actually think medic armor is probably the strongest
naive dragon
I will retain my "extra grenades" perk simply because extra grenades
dusky solar
heavy medic armor is great vs bots
but i think the ability to never ever ever have to be surprised by enemies is stronger
it does take engaging with the minimap and micromanaging your pins a lot, but next time you've got a buncha people in scout armor, drop pins around any objective you're doing so you can see patrols spawn from further away
quick plinth
do we knew what the new armors do?
honest acorn
idk I find it pretty easy to just see patrols visibly and I can already expect what I'll find on an objective
Outside of the occasional surprise tank POI guard
But the minimap wouldn't show that either
cobalt patrol
Yeah, explosive resist or medic + the speed I get from medium is good enough for me
graceful bluff
do we knew what the new armors do?
Either blast resist or more nades probably
cobalt patrol
But I've good eyes and a good sense of what's on points Germany
Generally*
Also being ambushed is funny
dusky solar
we've been trying to do deathless 9s without going full stealth, so far our best streak is 4 missions
the pins have been amazing for it
honest acorn
I find the reduced aggro range part of scout armor really good, I like running the basic bmx biker one since it doesn't completely sacrifice protection
naive dragon
Having the reduced wobble when crouching makes sniping out weakpoints with primaries hilarious
dusky solar
i can't wait for the cobra commander armor haha
i am a sucker for blue
a lotta the time we just dodge patrols
it's always the one comissar who sees you through a rock and calls 4 hulks and 2 tanks on you that's the one that survives haha
honest acorn
I just move in the most direct line honestly
If I see a patrol in the way I'll try to wipe it
If that doesn't work I'll just keep running haha
cobalt patrol
Ah, fair enough. I tend to play sevens/eights and if I die, I die
honest acorn
Bot drops tend to just loiter in place
dusky solar
they do especially once you break los
cobalt patrol
Penguin is an avatar of chaos and also 380 barrages
dusky solar
bots are really really dumb
like if you break los and then turn a few degrees they'll never find you
the only enemies that chase super hard are berserkers
cobalt patrol
I always love watching them run to investigate their buddy who toppled over
honest acorn
Berserkers tend to put more pressure out since they actually are fast and chase you but I prefer speed to minimize patrol spawns
dusky solar
that's why i like the extra radar scanning, you can still go fast and dodge patrols
since you see em from further usually
honest acorn
idk I find it faster to just bull through
Though the aggro reduction makes it a lot easier to go around them without just wandering for a while
dusky solar
yeah
the scout armor has so many strong effects all at once
fast, good stamina regen, extra radar, less detection
orchid pulsar
<@&1206091872716595200> we got space for two more
dusky solar
i'm quite pleased that all the armors have a few good ones now
medium armor with Democracy Protects is a total meme
i love it
honest acorn
Oh I mean, I pretty much don't use it but its nice when I'm using an AMR or something and want to be bothered a little less while providing fire support
My goto is blast resist or medic armor
dusky solar
blast resist heavy armor my beloved
honest acorn
Or shock resist if I think I won't get kicked for bringing a tower :p
dusky solar
lol, quad shock resist with 2 arc throwers is still broken vs bugs btw
honest acorn
like actually broken or just gamer meme broken
dusky solar
it's approximately as good as it was before, soloing breaches is still very doable
honest acorn
so the latter
dusky solar
well, like, it's still much more effective than other options
we were going out of our way to kill every patrol and do all nests on a 9
the other 2 people brought RR and Quasar
pastel igloo
sweet sweet liberty
dusky solar
the only weapon almost as good as the arc thrower for clearing breaches now is the grenade launcher, but that struggles when the breach is uphill
and it can't kill chargers in the same way
pastel igloo
this armor gives me more grenades
dusky solar
and if you fail to contain some hunters, they will fan out to the side and make the grenades very inefficient
pastel igloo
i am happy
south temple
man i’ve been maining quasar but after 1 game with the autocannon i don’t think i can go back
dusky solar
vs bots?
yeahhhhh
it's way overtuned imo, it does literally everything
well
not WAY overtuned
i don't think it needs to be crippled
barren iron
autocannon is crazy because it is an infantryman's wet dream
and also not a thing that exists irl, so you cant really balance it in that way
dusky solar
not just the infantrymen, but the infantrywomen and infantrychildren, too!
south temple
oneshotting hulks is based, but turning a dev group into slurry on the floor is so yummy
south temple
it's way overtuned imo, it does literally everything
the day it gets nerfed is the day i die in agony
the only downside to me is no bubble but heavy armor solves it ez
dusky solar
yeah the anti explosive 30% recoil heavy armor is great
have you tried the medic heavy armor btw?
also super strong
sinful bay
I should grab it, the extra stims really make you live longer by a lot
dusky solar
the increased "invincibility" duration is also phenomenal
honest acorn
All the medic armors are good
dusky solar
the sickest hybrid armor would be either of the stim buffs (capacity or duration) + 50% explosive resist
dusky solar
quasar, ballistic shield, defender?
alpine seal
yup
dusky solar
or do you run like, AMR
alpine seal
quasar usually
dusky solar
the shield was already pretty good before the buff and i think it's excellent now
what i'm waiting for is like, a plasma smg so i can handle walkers with a primary
sinful bay
95% explosion protection armor so you can rocket jump when
dusky solar
lol
if you lay down i think you have 90+ explosive damage resist
i've been curious if throwing multiple 380s into a base and crawling in with heavy armor would be survivable
world's goofiest tank strat
dusky solar
doesn't that break relatively fast under 380?
honest acorn
Problem is a near shell hit can overload it
meager saffron
rip
dusky solar
yeah
honest acorn
It'll probably regenerate before a second shell lands
meager saffron
the spread on the 380 is still pretty high