#Helldivers 2: For Managed Democracy!

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graceful bluff
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because you're not hitting the thin squishy bit

honest acorn
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It’s “plasma explosive” and has pretty low damage

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But plasma explosives seem to follow different rules

dusky solar
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I think it's not very good vs bugs

honest acorn
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Like completely ignoring barriers

dusky solar
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Would rather have a breaker and an anti armor back weapon

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Breaker incendiary is going to be fucking awesome if you're host now

graceful bluff
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Honestly the breakers still really nice

dusky solar
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Yeah it's my fave bug primary

honest acorn
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I’m very sad that the fire bug isn’t fixed

graceful bluff
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I think they did?

honest acorn
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But even without being the host the IB was decent

dusky solar
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I might swap to punisher and accept that it's just a crappier version of old slugger

honest acorn
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There’s definitely still DOT bugs with distant connections

graceful bluff
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I definitely saw some of the enemies you killed get killed by DoT after you stole my breaker incendiary :v

dusky solar
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The important thing slugger did was stagger and kill medium armor enemies

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At least the punisher can delay them

honest acorn
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I had a gas strike do literally 0 damage today

graceful bluff
honest acorn
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Had like 10 bugs basking in it for about 70% of strike duration and they didn’t die

graceful bluff
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Now you can't just magdump them if you miss

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Oh is it the gas strikes turn in the timeout

supple siren
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I dont know where you guys are finding the time to be reliably headshotting

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Y'all talk like it is a given to hit

graceful bluff
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Many, many hours of killing floor

honest acorn
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I think it’s both I also had no damage incendiary grenades and breaker incendiary

supple siren
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Stun grenades a blessing I'll just say

dusky solar
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Plus, half the reason i ran slugger was to peel

honest acorn
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It wasn’t consistent though - I had another gas strike work fine that same mission

dusky solar
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Not for me

honest acorn
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So IDK wtf is happening

dusky solar
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For my allies

graceful bluff
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Though I do feel every weapon should get a laser pointer like the dominator though

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it's so nice

honest acorn
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Maybe something about EMS? The undying bugs were all EMS stunned

supple siren
graceful bluff
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having an actual barrel accurate point, and also having an easier time seeing where allies are aiming

honest acorn
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I should probably make a big report yeah

dusky solar
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It's fine that it's gone but that's like, why i liked it

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Great unique function

graceful bluff
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if you want what the slugger lost I'd highly recommend the dominator though, it has stagger and onetaps at the cost of mag reloads and a bit less ammo

supple siren
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Truly my ideal patch note would be "gave Heavy Devastators weapon spread"

dusky solar
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The changes to breaker incendiary and the dominator are enough to make me want to try it

graceful bluff
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If you wanna go farming for some SC hit me up

honest acorn
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Oh does the dominator have noticeable stagger now?

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I hadn’t gotten around to testing it

dusky solar
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Honestly? Probably after class. I feel like i argue with people in here all the time and i'd rather have fun playing

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Lemme see how much work i get this evening 😄

strange vine
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iirc it staggers devastators now

graceful bluff
oblique lotus
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I definitely think the slugger nerfs were both warranted and not nearly as bad as people think

hazy oriole
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I could also use a few super creds myseld, @ me when y'all doing that farming if you could use a third

oblique lotus
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it still oneshots to the head and previously was like, categorically better than several other primaries

honest acorn
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Dominator already punked heavy devs pretty hard if you hit the head or backpack so that’s nice

graceful bluff
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oh yeah that's another reason why I like the dominator, it's just absurd raw amounts of damage, even more so now

oblique lotus
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and if you need horde clear to get back to your AT option uh

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cluster exists

honest acorn
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I will say that the arc thrower feels like it got hit pretty hard

oblique lotus
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you have four stratagem slots

graceful bluff
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it just chunks parts off devastators(I basically always just pop rocket dev packs now)

honest acorn
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No more 1.8x fire rate trick, and the lost of 15 meters of range is pretty painful

graceful bluff
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the arc thrower is so tasty now, but it takes some getting used to

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It stuns every bot except tanks

oblique lotus
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like this is me being me but I think some people are so used to taking backpack plus support weapon that they forget that you can just not run a backpack

graceful bluff
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Yes also hulks

dusky solar
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Lol

honest acorn
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The boosted stagger was not very noticeable to me but I had trouble testing it because of EAT firing squads

dusky solar
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Like most of the primaries in this game are not worth using

graceful bluff
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also you can keep hordes of berserkers at bay while killing them pretty fast

oblique lotus
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I'd disagree but that doesn't make the slugger any less of an overperformer

graceful bluff
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it is honestly the best anti zerker weapon now imo

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I find the story of the dominator really funny though

dusky solar
honest acorn
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Yeah I’m probably going to start running it - can’t deal with these 8-12 zerker packs

graceful bluff
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until this patch it has had no buffs, at release everyone called it hot garbage until like a week or two ago people finally realized how busted it is

oblique lotus
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the slugger was obviously substantially better overall than most primaries

graceful bluff
supple siren
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So buff primaries waaa

dusky solar
oblique lotus
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the punisher is not mediocre

graceful bluff
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...punisher is literally one of the most meta guns outside of the slugger

honest acorn
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I 100% don’t buy “this weapon is fine every other weapon is just ass” it just seems like cope

oblique lotus
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but the slugger did not need to be best in class stagger plus best in class DMR plus reasonable ammo efficiency plus good handling

graceful bluff
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and the countersniper while niche as hell, if you got good with it, it was nice

dusky solar
hazy oriole
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all this talk of slugger vs punisher and i feel like donkey in that one shrek meme format cuz I use the Liberator Penetrator

honest acorn
oblique lotus
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"but most primaries are bad"

dusky solar
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Yeah

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Yeah, my list of "good stuff" was like
The new pulse laser rifle
Slugger
Breaker
Scorcher

oblique lotus
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like sure you can't stunlock a devastator because you couldn't land a headshot anymore but that was honestly one of the more ridiculous aspects of the slugger

dusky solar
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4 guns out of the massive variety is not great

oblique lotus
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because you could just keep trying until you eventually landed a hit

supple siren
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I just liked the clarity of 'This pump action for bugs, this pump action for bots'

graceful bluff
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did you never try the punisher after its buff(it got buffed at the same time as the breaker got nerfed and the slugger buffed)

oblique lotus
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that's also such a narrow list holy shit

honest acorn
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There’s a text log there’s no point in denying it haha I’m not a big fan of this whole “say something unreasonable” and then when pushed back “wait no I never said that I meant [entirely different thing I just said now]” shit

oblique lotus
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like I would fully disagree with that list

dusky solar
oblique lotus
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you literally just claimed that everything other than four weapons aren't good

honest acorn
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Are you for real right now???

dusky solar
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Like objectively. I haven't said anything contradictory. I think most primaries suck and the game is all about support weapons

oblique lotus
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.......

dusky solar
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And i think that's kinda dumb

oblique lotus
dusky solar
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"This weapon is fine, every other weapon is ass"

oblique lotus
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.......

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but you're saying that

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you've been saying that

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you literally just said that

dusky solar
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There's a really big difference between "most of the weapons are bad" and "lol everything but this one gun is trash"

honest acorn
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This is not a hair worth splitting or a hill worth dying on (imo)

dusky solar
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Idk homie, it feels like everyone's like "lol git gud, arrowhead keeps nerfing everything fun and that's awesome" and i'm like "well, i liked that stuff, lame"

honest acorn
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Yes that's fine to feel

graceful bluff
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I would highly recommend running a bunch of different weapons though, like for example I never thought I'd like the dominator until I picked it off someones corpse and onetapped 5 devastators in a row

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now it's my main weapon

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graceful bluff
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(also honestly I like the punisher better than pre nerf slugger anyway because it has way better handling)

oblique lotus
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I'm also a pretty big plasma punisher fan

graceful bluff
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much better for knife fighting

oblique lotus
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I think it's heavily slept on

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it kills things

keen zinc
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The Punisher finally gets to shine without being overshadowed by the Do It All Gun

honest acorn
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The plasma punisher is a lot of fun

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It's so weird to use though

south temple
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yeah tbh the slugger being so good meant that i felt like i had to willingly fuck over my own effectiveness to not be bored

honest acorn
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But I love how it handles heavy devs and scout walkers

hazy oriole
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assuming this is for bots, what secondaries have y'all been running with the shotguns

honest acorn
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Or regular devs but those feel easier to deal with in general

dusky solar
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AC vs bots is sick

keen zinc
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Literally every time someone asked for how to deal with something, the answer was usually "use the slugger"

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And that's bad

honest acorn
south temple
dusky solar
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AMR also god tier

oblique lotus
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machine pistol is my default

honest acorn
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I use the machine pistol with the plasma punisher tho

keen zinc
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Punisher and Senator my beloveds

graceful bluff
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You'll pry my senator off my cold dead hands

keen zinc
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Yes I will

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I want to dual wield

south temple
# keen zinc And that's bad

yeah like i can think of only a few scenarios where the slugger couldn't just fucking obliterate everything

dusky solar
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The machine pistol is cracked but i'm kinda curious if the senator can pull medium armor busting duty post slugger nerf

supple siren
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Senator reload buff, please

keen zinc
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No

supple siren
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Why are the divers actively bad at it

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I can't stick to just one loadout

graceful bluff
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pranking a berserker with a senator magdump will never not be funny

keen zinc
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The reload is so fun

honest acorn
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I mostly use the dagger for weapons where I don't need my secondary much and use it for popping lights

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or mines

keen zinc
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Keep rounds reload, maybe make it faster, but keep it rounds reload

honest acorn
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Since it struggles to kill anything more than the most basic enemies

hazy oriole
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nodnod
been waiting to get the senator so i can have something with a bit more range and pen with a shotty

In the meantime, more than happy to just sit away and plink with my penetrator on diff 5-7

supple siren
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Of course keep rounds reload I meant faster

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Rounds is an active buff

graceful bluff
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let me mash the reload button to reload the senator faster

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I've been leaning heavily on the Sickle, but that's just kinda vanilla

honest acorn
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I wouldn't mind losing the weird delay when you reload it

oblique lotus
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I wish the dagger dealt more damage

south temple
oblique lotus
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though that's also me missing the tanto

honest acorn
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I think its a bug

supple siren
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Dagger damage feels fuckin broken

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150 dps it does not

keen zinc
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Make the Senator reload like the Punisher on an empty tube

dusky solar
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Maybe we'll get a pulse dagger that's just better

oblique lotus
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continuous laser weapons are strange

keen zinc
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A quick click open and then fast loading

honest acorn
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Where if you stage the reload it keeps the delay of knocking the old shells out

oblique lotus
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there are weird under the hood mechanics that I don't understand but it definitely does more than listed damage

hazy oriole
south temple
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until i got the slugger it was my main

dusky solar
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How is lib pen's full auto mode?

oblique lotus
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like the scythe absolutely does more than 300DPS I just don't know why or how

south temple
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with full auto i might go back full time til dominator

dusky solar
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Also, i think silenced weapons will be pretty bad for the game

supple siren
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Laser weapon dps is affected by phases of the moon or something

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hazy oriole
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I prefer semi cuz I struggle with the burst recoil + generally have better ammo effeciency

oblique lotus
honest acorn
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I think the Scythe has something to do with either boosted weak point damage or something to do with red hit markers

keen zinc
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honest acorn
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It seems to do massively increased damage to heads and limbs

south temple
keen zinc
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Can't wait for Ninja to drop

honest acorn
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But those are also usually badly armored

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keen zinc
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Yes

dusky solar
# keen zinc Why?

Efficiently taking out patrols or groups of enemies before they can call in reinforcements is doable/fun/rewarding, and usually not too difficult, already. This is especially true in a squad but even solo it's not too challenging with a bit of thought/practice.

Adding silenced weapons will make that trivial and remove a ton of interaction in the game. It also doesn't lend itself to teamwork. Or at least, leads away from that direction.

There are other games you can play if you want the silenced weapon / full stealth gameplay loop.

honest acorn
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For the dagger you really need to hit weak points

oblique lotus
honest acorn
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It kills basic bots in less than a second if you get the head

hazy oriole
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honest acorn
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But also like a whole second or more if you don't

south temple
keen zinc
honest acorn
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But also the Dagger has really low damage

honest acorn
dusky solar
keen zinc
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Yeah. It literally did everything.

hazy oriole
honest acorn
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A few weapons were "silent" as well

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Arc Thrower was another one

oblique lotus
keen zinc
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And silenced weapons aren't going to be completely silent

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Just lower audio range

oblique lotus
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guess how much audio range reduction silencers had in HD1

keen zinc
oblique lotus
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yup

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keen zinc
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I love it

south temple
honest acorn
dusky solar
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Right, but i don't think that having functional silent weapons is gonna be very good for the game still. Trivializing picking apart patrols without causing alerts is going to be even worse.

hazy oriole
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I love how it looks like an oversized luger mechanism

honest acorn
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I like it as a utility tool with infinite ammo for demining or de-blinding as well

keen zinc
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I think it's more for static guards than patrols

oblique lotus
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I don't think silenced weapons will let you pick apart patrols, I think it's more to avoid aggroing other patrols

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dusky solar
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I still don't like how it pushes people away from teamplay

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dusky solar
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Which is 10000% the best part of the game

honest acorn
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Oh I think the dagger is also pretty silent

oblique lotus
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though I also don't think silent weapons will actually be very good because being able to deal with alerts is a lot more important than suppressing patrols

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esp at higher levels when patrols start having heavy armor in them

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dusky solar
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An ounce of prevention and all imo

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You can avoid patrols nearly 100% of the time up until extract, and then you have all your strats and trusty support weapon for the few bot drops that get called

hazy oriole
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i wonder if suppressed weapons having extra damage on unaware enmies could work..

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honest acorn
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Silent weapons seem nice for taking out POI guards but especially later in a mission or whatever makes the patrols huge its really hard to take them out before someone pops a flare/plume

dusky solar
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Yeah, but do you often engage them?

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Usually i run light armor and walk around em

honest acorn
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Engage patrols?

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If they're in the way yeah

dusky solar
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Yeah

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I see

oblique lotus
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also sometimes patrols decide to engage you

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esp if you're not running stealth armor

honest acorn
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Though usually I use an area destroyer like airburst

dusky solar
supple siren
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Has anyone else had an Airburst kill something like a good 15m from outside the range

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I swear like one of the shots bounced off armor or something

oblique lotus
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I've been killed by cluster ricochet before

hazy oriole
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plus even if you don't decide to engage em always a chance your teammate who ran off towards a blinker 200m away will (hi that teammate is me i am sorry)

supple siren
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or the ship-angles made it funky

keen zinc
honest acorn
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It seems to basically make cluster bomb explosions appear at the margins of orbital call ins

keen zinc
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In fact some of the best teamwork moments I've had in this server is a whole squad of us low crawling across a map due to it being Nursing Spewer Hell

hazy oriole
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Aw man, still need the samples forthat

dusky solar
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But that's what it'll do. There was a ton of discussion about this with the GTFO devs, another squad based shooter that has alerts and such, and they spoke and wrote a lot about how suppressors sort of broke teamplay every way they tried testing them

honest acorn
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I think suppressors are relatively teamwork neutral

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For this game at least

graceful bluff
hazy oriole
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But this ain't gtfo tho

dusky solar
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From seeing them in similar games i don't agree. Specifically gtfo.

south temple
honest acorn
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I agree wrt GTFO since its a much more methodical and confined game

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oblique lotus
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GTFO is also a very-yeah

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I can't wipe a room with an airstrike in GTFO

dusky solar
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I play bots very similar to gtfo tbf, very slow and methodical

oblique lotus
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there are significantly fewer safety valves

hazy oriole
south temple
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shit just makes my heart rate skyrocket so it's a very "play for 2 hours and then go lie down" game

dusky solar
honest acorn
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Those platinum based MFs ain't ready for this [teleports in 500 kg bomb]

south temple
hazy oriole
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hahahaha

dusky solar
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Adding suppressors doesn't really add like... more "coordinated ambush" to the game. It simply adds "solo MGS gameplay" you know?

honest acorn
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One of my favorite teamwork moments was all 4 of us as randoms opening up on a patrol at 25 meters at once

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And just wiping it with small arms before it could signal for help

oblique lotus
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again we don't actually know what suppressors will do

dusky solar
honest acorn
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I think there'd be more of it honestly

graceful bluff
dusky solar
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Why's that?

honest acorn
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Since you could do it from further away

oblique lotus
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also with less risk of aggroing other patrols

honest acorn
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So normally firing a shot basically makes every enemy in a big radius turn towards you

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And in more situations, since you're not going to pull as many other enemies.

honest acorn
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Silent weapons, from what we have seen, make it so that it only happens if the enemy sees someone die in their tiny cone of vision (ime)

dusky solar
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But like... that's a big part of why teamwork is important. People gotta communicate enemy locations better without silencers

honest acorn
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So there's way more grace for opening up on a patrol as a group

dusky solar
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That risk requires teamwork to manage

keen zinc
oblique lotus
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like, first off I don't think this gun is actually very good from the stats but also from the description I don't think it's going to be silent silent

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honest acorn
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Whereas without suppressors and good teamwork ambushes tend to lose out to "throw airstrikes in front, then rush through" which is practically the battle drill 1 of helldivers

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Sure, and now the teamwork is slightly different, since there are other risks. And probably drawbacks to the weapons.

It's just enabling another playstyle.

honest acorn
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And simply run away from the resulting reinforcements

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Something I think will be sort of annoying is if suppressors are "all or nothing" for a team

oblique lotus
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if we get a customization system that lets you slap a suppressor on anything then maybe there will be issues but one of the tradeoffs of the suppressed rifle is having to take the suppressed rifle

honest acorn
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Like is it good to bring 1-2?

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Or do you need to commit to 3-4?

dusky solar
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I don't think that "other playstyle" (stealth) meshes well with the design of the rest of the game and how easily it spills over into the huge fights where it excels.

graceful bluff
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What I could see suppressors do is that if you snipe with it, they don't know where it comes from so they're gonna not aggro onto you even if they see someone die

oblique lotus
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or that

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we don't know how they'll work

graceful bluff
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but rather do recon by fire in every direction

oblique lotus
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I do wish the devs were a bit more transparent with how HD2 actually functions but that's also the part of my brain that optimizes the fun out of things

honest acorn
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I do recall a tweet from the arrowhead CEO talking about how he liked to do full suppressor missions

south temple
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dusky solar
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Unsurprising, i love how much the devs and public faces actually play the game

honest acorn
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Found it!

dusky solar
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I'm so excited for the apcs

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And HOPEFULLY eventually a light tank

graceful bluff
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bring back the tank destroyer

dusky solar
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Really that 2nd mech is going to open up a whole new playstyle, where you can be in a mech for every important fight on most missions

oblique lotus
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I think the tank destroyer would be a lot better with the new camera

honest acorn
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Running 2x mech is gonna be good

oblique lotus
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since you're not restricted by how far you can see into the distance anymore

dusky solar
honest acorn
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I'm glad they fixed the aggro bug for mechs too

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It was really weird being completely ignored haha

dusky solar
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That felt so stupid

honest acorn
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I do think mechs are playable vs bots but you have to be very cowardly

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And it depends on the map a little bit

graceful bluff
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have anyone checked how mechs fare now that rockets have been neutered

dusky solar
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And then if one of your teammates magically goes out of aggro fwoosh every rocket dev is like "HELLO"

honest acorn
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I found it a lot easier on Draupnir where it was pretty easy to hull down

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I have only seen an ally bring a mech once and it seemed... fine

supple siren
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Ubanea's a very 'Here, get Shot' for Mechs

honest acorn
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I mostly was fairly far away

supple siren
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Truly I do love how the different planets impact gameplay

dusky solar
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I think mechs are totally fine when you have cover which is at most objectives

supple siren
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but please, game, let me see if it's a Nursing Spewer planet or not, somehow

keen zinc
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Bile maps are hell

honest acorn
dusky solar
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Where's my top mounted weapon rack for the REAL hull down experience

honest acorn
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The random rocket dev you didn't see who empties the pods into the back of the mech and just kills you

graceful bluff
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There's three enemy types they really need to warn

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Shriekers, bilespewers, and the new thing on bot planets

dusky solar
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Has anyone tested if the parts of the bubble shield that stick through the mech block shots?

honest acorn
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They do

dusky solar
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I always felt like it

supple siren
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Having a teammate with the Big Shield is so solid with a mech

ionic holly
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spear locks onto new gun ships and kills them in one, so happy about that

honest acorn
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I don't think its super useful because it doesn't protect much but it does something

supple siren
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even bringing one yourself, the popin/out isn't slow

dusky solar
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Shield pack amr is busted good vs bots

graceful bluff
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you can also save team mates by hugging them while having a shield

honest acorn
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Also the bile spewers are funny - they said they kill you less quickly now but that was a lie ime

dusky solar
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I still like jetpack the most 😭

honest acorn
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I still died in like less than half of the spew

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But I guess you're more likely to survive if you dive?

dusky solar
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Bile spewer planets make me want to commit grenade launcher

honest acorn
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Yeah pretty much haha

south temple
supple siren
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bringing a flamer and learning you're to face the acid wall is so painful

graceful bluff
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I always pack for bile spewer

south temple
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i just don't play bugs lol

honest acorn
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I'd love a "bile planet" indicator

oblique lotus
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500 kilo is god

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though they don't get stun naded anymore so I'm going to have to get my eye back in for lead

dusky solar
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I think going back to the bug front, quasar will be worth its weight in gold

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Its big advantage in sustained shots per minute over RR and EAT is really significant

oblique lotus
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it's also nice just having one when you need it

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convenience factor

dusky solar
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Yeah. And you can run shield pack with it. Breaker / shield / orbital rail / 500 / quasar is pretty uninspired but very good

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dusky solar
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Honestly, maybe even cluster bomb over orbital rail

oblique lotus
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500/airstrike/cluster/quasar for me

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I like my planes

hazy oriole
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How good is the big shield in y'alls experience? Seems rewlly good on paper to me but I never seem ro see anyone bring it

dusky solar
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Based

graceful bluff
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it's amazing

south temple
supple siren
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I love the Big Shield

graceful bluff
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I just like big boom

supple siren
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but a tank will melt it

dusky solar
quick plinth
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500, rail, (support weapon), EMS or laser dog

and a shottie primary be that punisher or a breaker variant

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It has a shorter CD than people imagine I think

dusky solar
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It's the big "defend this position" thing, but most players learn to kite and run

south temple
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heavy armor defender and big shield is insanely based

dusky solar
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So with randoms it's pretty poor

supple siren
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It does have some problems with 'here's four Flame Hulks'

hazy oriole
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nodnod

dusky solar
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Oh do you mean the physical ballistic shield?

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Or do you mean the big bubble

hazy oriole
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Nah, bubble

south temple
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oh bubble is also great

supple siren
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There's something psychically calming about being inside bubble

hazy oriole
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Do you reckon it'd be okay if i slap it on for an eradication mish

graceful bluff
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Bubble does have one extremely neat broken thing about it

dusky solar
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Yeah ok, my main thing is that it's cool as heck but most players have learned to do things that go directly against its big strength

south temple
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it's a must take for me tbh

hazy oriole
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nodnod

honest acorn
graceful bluff
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if a bile spewer spews on it, it will kill itself with backsplash because it's right next to its face

dusky solar
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Yeahhhhhhhh

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Works on titans too!

hazy oriole
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IT STOPS CHARGERS?!?!

honest acorn
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I do think its an improvement - diving to the side and instantly dying because they got your feet sucks

dusky solar
hazy oriole
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Awww

dusky solar
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And then they can walk through it

hazy oriole
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Still, nice way to line up an EAT or RR

dusky solar
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Very, and it gives bugs something for their dumb little brains to focus besides your meaty bits

hazy oriole
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hehe
tiny bug brains
little fellas...

dusky solar
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The ballistic shield got some buffs too if that's your spice

hazy oriole
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Maybe when I unlock the senator

dusky solar
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Haven't tried it recently but it was like... sorta usably good before?

honest acorn
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That video made the ballistic shield look really good

dusky solar
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The defender is great with it ofc

honest acorn
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(I have literally never used the ballistic shield)

hazy oriole
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For now im gonna try running a supply pack with eithera quasar or EAT and the medic armor and run around handing out candy to buddies

glacial light
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I can confirm I've been kills by a lack of shield pack because I forget chargers charging you is supposed to a lot of deal damage

dusky solar
honest acorn
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Also did someone say AMR buffs earlier?

south temple
glacial light
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They buffed the hitbox so in assuming it's beyter

dusky solar
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30% damage!

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Crazy

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AMR was already amazing vs bots

honest acorn
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wild

dusky solar
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I wonder if this will hit any new thresholds

honest acorn
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I wonder if that's enough for it to 1 shot hulk eyes?

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That would be huge

dusky solar
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SAME

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Stun nade -> tap eye is already great

honest acorn
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It does seem nice for those random times where it just fails to kill a devastator

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So that's good QoL for a really good bot weapon

dusky solar
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You know what they should do to shield pack

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Buff it to launch level, but make it increase your detectability

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It's way too good rn imo

azure pewter
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Hamster ball physics

hazy oriole
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The one thing keeping me from using amr is the misaligned sights as soon as they fix those im slapping that baby on with a jetpack, hopping to the nearest high ground and plinking away to my heart's content

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I think that's what it's meant to do: improve consistency.

honest acorn
junior badge
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I hope Spear gets a buff for that too - although fixing the aim might do it too.

azure pewter
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Lemme do some katamari bullshit and obliterate someone

honest acorn
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It would be SO funny to roll down a hill if you get ragdolled with the shield up

dusky solar
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Compromise: ball physics when ragdolling

hazy oriole
azure pewter
honest acorn
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excellent

dusky solar
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The real question is, does the diligence counter sniper kill hulks now

keen zinc
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Give me a light recoilless rifle that fires autocannon-tier shots one at a time but doesn't require a backpack

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dusky solar
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If it does that is actually kind of ridiculous

keen zinc
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Probably not

honest acorn
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Speaking of ragdolls I think this remains my funniest death

hazy oriole
keen zinc
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Eh, I want something with sustain

dusky solar
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What do you think of the quasar?

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It sounds like approximately the function you want

graceful bluff
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it's sustain in a weird way, you have one on your back that you use while you call down two more

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(bonus points if you kill something with the pod too)

keen zinc
dusky solar
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I would agree but i think we'll get higher diffs 😂

glacial light
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It's very good

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I missed the hamster ball physics talk

graceful bluff
south temple
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wish my friends were more consistent so i could reliably run 7+

honest acorn
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I wouldn't be surprised if the Quasars cooldown was made a little longer next patch

glacial light
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My silly suggestion is you can permanently overcharge the shield to become completely invincible and it turns you into a hamster ball cause nothing gets in or out not even the ground or air so you got a few minutes to bowling ball before you die of suffocation

dusky solar
keen zinc
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Allegedly Gas Strike only works if you're the host

honest acorn
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There's something else going on -

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I had a gas strike fail to do shit and then the next one I called killed myself, another helldiver and 12 bugs

glacial light
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Quasar CD could be like 20 seconds and id still use it

honest acorn
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Same mission 70 seconds apart

south temple
honest acorn
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Ok I think the other helldiver dove out but I misjudged it badly

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I'll be using Airburst instead that way there's no chance they can dive out

oblique storm
hazy oriole
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I do wish med armor meant you got 3 stims per resupp but that might be a little op

honest acorn
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it would be nice but I agree

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I think med armor is already one of the best types

hazy oriole
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nod nod

keen zinc
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I wish grenade armor gave you 3 grenades per resupp

honest acorn
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I think there's more space for that

dusky solar
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Light grenade armor the GOAT even if it's horribly ugly

hazy oriole
dusky solar
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The red and tan is just Not Good

graceful bluff
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it's so silly

dusky solar
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Wait does the stagger effect apply to friendlies with the arc thrower now too

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That's gonna kill arc thrower comps where people run the 95 arc resist armor lmao

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Not because it's objectively bad

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You can still manage angles

honest acorn
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I haven't been able to test

hazy oriole
dusky solar
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But man that sounds unfun to get staggered LOL

graceful bluff
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yes

hazy oriole
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oh i am absolutely gonna run that with my med armor now

dusky solar
keen zinc
hazy oriole
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my teammates are gonna get so drugged up

graceful bluff
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30 fucking stims

keen zinc
dusky solar
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XDDD

honest acorn
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Wait does the supply pack give more stims?

graceful bluff
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the supply pack maxes out your stims

honest acorn
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Or is just just that you get a bunch of uses

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whaaack

hazy oriole
graceful bluff
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so 6 stims(starting) and 4x6 stims from the backpack

dusky solar
# keen zinc

Hey that's what i run with that armor! I use the... botbreaker cape? It's the same color scheme from the uh, advanced weapon warbond

graceful bluff
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run it with something ammo hungry like the grenade launcher for maximum hilarity

keen zinc
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It's my favorite looking armor

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It's great

dusky solar
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I loooove how the basic heavy armor looks xD it looks like power armor

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Shame it's

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Yknow

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Bad

honest acorn
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I think the blast resist heavy armor is pretty solid

dusky solar
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I used to use it vs bots

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To help with the one shots

graceful bluff
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blast resist vs the new rocket damage is hilarious

honest acorn
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Lets you just messily 1v1 rocket devs and play with an alarming amount of danger close explosives

dusky solar
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But being fast is so good

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I use it whenever I'm restricted to 3 stratagems.

glacial light
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Heavy blast resist is very good against bots and you can laugh at rocket devs until you run out of stims

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Especially with shield pack for overkill one shot defenses

dusky solar
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I definitely used to swear by heavy armor vs bots, but then i actually ran a couple missions in light stealth armor and i can't go back now

junior badge
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Since against bots I really like having some 1-shot protection, which is either a shield or the heavy armor.

keen zinc
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Me atm

glacial light
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If I die more than twice in a 40 minute bot mission I cry a bit in the inside

blissful sparrow
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oh thats a fancy helmet

honest acorn
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Yeah its real easy to get peeked by a heavy devastator and obliterator in light armor ime

dusky solar
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Very xD

hazy oriole
honest acorn
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Though I've really been warming to... the stock tactical extra padding medium armor

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It's actually really solid

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Fucked up

hazy oriole
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i gotta learn the jetpack playstyle just so i can mando cosplay with somethin like that

dusky solar
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I walk around with the autocannon out a lot

keen zinc
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I love the Breaker armor

dusky solar
hazy oriole
dusky solar
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Nade launcher jetpack vs bugs is cray cray

keen zinc
dusky solar
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Sit up on a rock and it's very easy to hit the right spots on the ground for maximum kill power

keen zinc
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Amko style

dusky solar
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I like jetpack amr more for bots

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Sneeki sneeki and you can go loud when absolutely necessary

honest acorn
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I had a lot of luck with AMR+eagle smoke with no backpack

dusky solar
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I wish the bugs had an effect as satisfying as hearing 3 or 4 sizzles from bot heads

honest acorn
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It's hard to make myself take a red call in which doesn't kill though haha

dusky solar
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I watched a 4man do bot 9s with no deaths like 3 missions in a row with eagle smoke

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It's sooooo gooood but it turns the game into a walking simulator

keen zinc
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The life

honest acorn
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I think its more like a jogging sim but yeah

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It's wild how the bots just... leave you alone

quick plinth
hazy oriole
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"hey bob should we check out that massive smoke cloud"
"nah man don't worry about it nothing ever happens"

keen zinc
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I'm using HE nades now instead of impacts

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I need to see if the prototype helmets dirt regions are still broken

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If not I can wear my Walter helmet

dusky solar
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Have you tried stuns vs the bots?

keen zinc
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No, I need to be able to destroy fabs

dusky solar
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Oh right, only the 500 would do that on your loadout

keen zinc
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That pic is a little outdated

dusky solar
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Oh

keen zinc
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I now run Breaker armor

graceful bluff
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Yeah jetpack stalwart gaming leaves a lot to be desired objective destruction wise

dusky solar
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I've become an orbital laser enjoyer

graceful bluff
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so HE's are kinda needed

dusky solar
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Throw it into a bot base and walk away and wait for the little "AREA SECURED" jingle

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Anyone up for some diving?

graceful bluff
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I do that with 380's :v

junior badge
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Pushing Ubanea into a solid win?

keen zinc
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I wonder if they fixed stalwart hitmarkers

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Copium

modest fiber
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found this nice piece, looks good

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quick plinth
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gonna retry the precision strike now that ive heard it destroys detector towers

keen zinc
quick plinth
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I dont get it

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why dont people just draw a ripped af helldiver lady

modest fiber
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they have tho

quick plinth
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make her built like illaoi

modest fiber
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i have seen few but too spicy for this group

undone veldt
dusky solar
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Hahahaha

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The failed major order of consequences rarely arrives democratically

quick plinth
undone veldt
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And god that sentence terrifies me

honest acorn
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buppy

dusky solar
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It does. I wonder if orbital rail 2 shots it

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blegh

keen zinc
dusky solar
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Ngl i was hoping for the battletech King Crab version

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junior badge
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Lib-P is just not good enough for an eradicate

dusky solar
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Still not enough damage huh

honest acorn
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I really feel the pressure to bring a breaker or slugger to handle getting jumped by like 10 berserkers

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For those

junior badge
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yeah, makes sense

quick plinth
#

dom

honest acorn
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I haven't tried it post-patch but it seems like it should be good

quick plinth
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dom shreds berserkers now

honest acorn
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Oh yay

quick plinth
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2-3 shots to the waist

honest acorn
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that's pretty good yeah

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5 a mag is pretty solid

quick plinth
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still handles like a heavy hunk of metal though

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which is fair

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countersniper getting medium pen makes it real nice too

honest acorn
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Yeah I kind of like the weight for it if it has enough punch to justify it

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I need to try that too

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Really curious if it goes through hulk eyes

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(I doubt it)

glacial light
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Has anyone tried mech against bots? Is it a lot more tanky?

quick plinth
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i mean

honest acorn
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I saw a teammate use one to pretty good effect

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That's the most data I have

quick plinth
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ive been taking missiles left and right with 100 armor value

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so

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i imagine the mech is a lot more usable now

glacial light
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I'm gonna have to see how it feels to replace shield pack with mech, trying to get off the shield pack with each heavy armor buff

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And gun dog is also on my try list for bugs

honest acorn
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Gun dog is mixed for me

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I think its much more usable now but ammo boxes not refilling it at all kinda sucks

glacial light
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Oh is it only supply boxes from supply drops?

honest acorn
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yeah but a supply box fills to to 100% now instead of by 25%

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It's a big buff

glacial light
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That kind of ruins it for me I rarely ever use supply boxes and let my teammates have it, I run a very low cost efficient sustain build usually

honest acorn
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I think it also has more reloads? Or reloads more consistently?

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Upside is while it has ammo it will kill all small bots within its attack radius before you notice them

keen zinc
honest acorn
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Very low time to acquire and very low TTK

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One of the best things for killing off POI guards before they can flare

keen zinc
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Never taking off the jump pack

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And has anyone tested the rumors that the AMR is more accurate to it's crosshair now?

honest acorn
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I have yet to use the AMR sadcowboy

keen zinc
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✅

wind arrow
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crosshair as in scope? cause i remember AMR not having hip aim reticle

honest acorn
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scope

wind arrow
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was it previously not accurate?

honest acorn
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One of its annoying quirks is that the shots would usually land up and to the left of the scope crosshair

wind arrow
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TIL

keen zinc
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It was/is incorrectly centered

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But I hear scuttlebutt that shots are now landing closer to the crosshair even though it still isn't centered

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So I was wondering if anyone could confirm that

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If so it might become my go to second slot

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At least until stalwart gets hitmarkers

dusky solar
keen zinc
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I already used it a lot

south temple
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god the senator fucks

sinful bay
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Slugger can't open crates and doors anymore

stiff pine
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👀

sinful bay
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Caviat*

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keen zinc
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I saw that but I also hear that it's actually hitting on target or at least closer

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So idk

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Misaligned but shots hitting where the crosshair is instead of center

graceful bluff
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cause if you had to aim through that center crosshair it'd be horrible

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it blocks off so much

keen zinc
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Clearly it's meant for you shoot center mass on heavy devastators so as to headshot them

oblique lotus
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anyone else running into frequent crashes?

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I just had two back to back

undone veldt
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Is there a new warbond coming soon?

honest acorn
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I have had good stability on playstation but have been bonked out of lobbies with no message a bunch of times so I think there's PC-side instability

undone veldt
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Could be steam

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It is Tuesday

keen zinc
undone veldt
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Ah ok

south temple
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does the stalwart have hitmarkers now?

honest acorn
#

I don't think so

idle hollow
idle hollow
# undone veldt https://x.com/millanoire/status/1775143199020913070?s=46&t=fIUfY3FiRXkmKVbIBdHHI...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDGK78Vtt-A this is apparently the music that plays when you fight it

YouTube
Mootacoo
Automaton Boss Combat Music with Vocals | Helldive Choir | Helldive...

A choir accompanying an epic Helldivers 2 track!

Playlist of Helldivers 2 Music: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLW250uNvfh760vKzCVyWR7DaY7K33cvFD

Music Composed and Produced by Wilbert Roget, II

#Helldivers2 #Democracy #Liberty
Helldivers 2 Song
Helldivers 2 OST
Helldivers 2 Soundtrack

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god i hope that's true

undone veldt
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Oh god lol

quick plinth
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like a supercharged grenade

graceful bluff
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Realizing you don't actually have to go into detector tower bases to hellbomb them makes them a lot less annoying

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you can just sneak up to the wall, arm it, then sneak out entirely undetected

keen zinc
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Well it depends

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The hellbombs blast is severely susceptible to being blocked by walls and bunkers

strange vine
graceful bluff
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not in my experience

keen zinc
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It is in my experience

graceful bluff
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it's weirdly low range to wreck objectives

keen zinc
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Two days ago we planted a hellbomb INSIDE a detector base and it didn't destroy it

sinful bay
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Oh boy I sure want more experience

graceful bluff
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this can also be seen with research bases

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which have no walls

strange vine
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Well theres a video of someone destroying a command bunker by planting a hellbomb outside the walls

keen zinc
#

Precision Strike my beloved

idle hollow
#

going to get hate for this but

i do not care for pelican-1

honest acorn
#

detector tower hellbombs are weird

idle hollow
#

foehammer > pelican-1

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also pequod >>>>>> pelican-1

graceful bluff
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More pelican for me then

keen zinc
strange vine
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If pelican 1 was a girl-

idle hollow
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if pelican-1 was a girl they'd be foehammer

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from halo CE

keen zinc
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Atlas is now banned from extraction

idle hollow
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also firebrand and big sky >>> pelican-1

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also jock from deus ex

keen zinc
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You're a hater

idle hollow
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because there's so many better transport pilots in games!

keen zinc
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You've never called in Pelican to be a loitering gunship before and it shows

idle hollow
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this is just yuri lowenthal!

idle hollow
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i wish i COULD

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but i CAN'T

keen zinc
keen zinc
idle hollow
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im sorry but he's replaced steve blum and nolan north in my brain for a voice actor that's in everything

keen zinc
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Call them in, then leave the extraction radius after the countdown but before the landing sequence

idle hollow
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this is because i played the hitman WoA trilogy recently

keen zinc
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He will loiter indefinitely and kill everything on the map to support you

idle hollow
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and he was like 50% of the voices in hitman 1

keen zinc
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Yeah and I played New Vegas

idle hollow
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oh god new vegas too

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oliver swannick...

keen zinc
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Where he was 80% of characters and you as well

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And I will accept no slander

idle hollow
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he was ben ten too

keen zinc
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The loitering pelican strat is really good for poi looting

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That gun on the pelican has obscene range and can kill bile titans and shoot down dropships

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Pelican will enter a circling loiter around the evac zone and kill anything he can see

hazy oriole
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i want more women that look like beasts

ionic holly
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I like the entire destroyer crew

though i think my eagle likes me with how accurate her angles are, ive only misjudged one angle in the past month

hazy oriole
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also on the subject of pelican i just like him because that one fanart of him gives me gender envy

ionic holly
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Which one?

hazy oriole
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one sec

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this one

undone veldt
ionic holly
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Ah fair

hazy oriole
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mighta been me by accident, my touchscreen's been glitchy

undone veldt
#

Ah probably yah

undone veldt
idle hollow
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i need to draw my TTRPG characters

honest acorn
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I kinda wish pelican and eagle 1 had multiple voices

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Would make things feel a little larger scale and impersonal

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But I like how they've been latched onto as characters

undone veldt
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I mean I see them as the destroyer crew

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They’re only the same because you can’t have unique voices for everyone

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But technically these are just our destroyer’s crew

keen zinc
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I want a special evacuation where your shipmaster or democracy officer General Shepherds you during extraction

blissful sparrow
idle hollow
# idle hollow i need to draw my TTRPG characters
  • human fridge ex-IPS-N cargo pilot, goth lite
  • escapee super soldier who knows nothing about anything, uses a C&H charioteer fitted for police work she stole, looks like a sister of battle
  • space french-english anti-corporate terrorist, looks like mistral and quiet were blended together, EOD specialist
  • ex-pirate half-orc, not very smart, still ends up being the straightman of the group most of the time
keen zinc
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I want my shipmaster to just pop me with a senator, take my samples, and then reenter the Pelican

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If I get too close to an alien ruin or something

undone veldt
keen zinc
idle hollow
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oh yeah uh

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don't alt-tab RN

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the game does NOT like it

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it's crashed twice for me

undone veldt
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“A1, DONT TRUST THE SHIPMASTER”

hazy oriole
#

also, fucking hell
even with the nerfs to them evacing priority civs is still really fucking tough
either that or i just really suck, i've lost four of the damn things in a row and quickplay KEEPS SLOTTING ME INTO THEM 😭

undone veldt
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You suddenly get told you’re leaving the mission area as you’re in the dead center of the map

dusky solar
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hamblergh, the best way to do them is to hit buttons, then run outside of the base to force the spawns to be away from the civvies

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the best way to do it is to have 1 sneaky breeki in the base and 3 people galivating around the map fighting every bot drop so none of them show up at the base

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but you can do it with one person too

hazy oriole
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unfortunately my teammates still insist on fighting on the obj
so i guess i gotta be the guy that runs away from everything to take the heat off them?

dusky solar
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Maybe. They might not be salavage-able lol

quick plinth
dusky solar
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You could ALSO go full evil

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And bring mortars and turrets

honest acorn
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lmfao

keen zinc
hazy oriole
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joel have mercy on me

dusky solar
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those missions kind of suck because you can't just go stealth all the objectives and then extract

keen zinc
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Get close to an alien ruin and get Anomalous Samples? They still want them, but not you.

hazy oriole
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i've gone through like eight missions like this i think im gonna go take a break

keen zinc
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Blammo

fringe quiver
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You're joking but like

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What if how they drop the 4th faction

hazy oriole
undone veldt
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Even better if the triumphant mission complete music is still played

honest acorn
dusky solar
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XD

quick plinth
dusky solar
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absolutely

fringe quiver
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Is randomly you begin to extract before a cutscene plays and you get shot by the pelican pilot and turns out it's the fourth faction

honest acorn
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It's so important to offset your defense at least a little bit so you're not neck deep in berserkers next to the buttons all the time

hazy oriole
dusky solar
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responding to distress calls is SUCH a diceroll

hazy oriole
undone veldt
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Your helldiver is unceremoniously betrayed and murdered and you still here the dududun du duuuuuun

dusky solar
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XDD

honest acorn
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I played 2 which went badly because of poorly thought out defenses and then went to fight bugs

alpine seal
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i once accidentally one less loose ended the entire squad

quick plinth
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I feel like too many people don't release that when defneding an objective you're supposed to create a perimiter around the objective rather than fighting on top of it

dusky solar
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it doesn't help that the bot drops spawn SO close to the players on that mission

hazy oriole
keen zinc
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The problem is the enemies spawn on top of it

dusky solar
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yea

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so the game teaches you "oh we fight in here"

alpine seal
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we were at 0 reinforcements, i accidentally arc thrower a player right as they prepare eagle cluster bomb, it lands at our feet and kills the rest of us, completing the mission

hazy oriole
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not to mention HOLY FUCKING SHIT THREE HULKS AND TWO TANKS???? what are these fuckin drops man

alpine seal
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had to go to another planet so they wouldnt recognize me

quick plinth
hazy oriole
honest acorn
quick plinth
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not wrong

hazy oriole
quick plinth
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lol

dusky solar
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YEAH getting overrun with small bots and devastators is fun, but when there's just too much heavy armor to kill it's sooooo annoying

honest acorn
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Also yeah I think it may be environment dependent

hazy oriole
hazy oriole
quick plinth
honest acorn
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I remember forest planet defend missions like that having bot spawns about 100 meters further out

dusky solar
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give me my IRL cluster munition strikes

honest acorn
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But ubanea is nuts

quick plinth
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you have to cull the bots quickly before there's too many heavy and rocket devs

honest acorn
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They just land outside the walls

hazy oriole
quick plinth
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but it seems to me that Ubanae is one of those "devestator" planets

hazy oriole
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i hate this damn planet fr fr

hazy oriole
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pwease mister diwector i am a huwmble level nineteen helldiver it is difficulty six pwease stop dropping annhilators on me

honest acorn
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Last time I was there I got a heavy berserker mix

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Albeit

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I suspect that I just noticed them more because I had the scorcher

dusky solar
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why do berserkers have so much health

honest acorn
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And that's a problem solver for devastators

hazy oriole
hexed steeple
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how else are they gonna do their thing

keen zinc
dusky solar
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i also really like scorcher vs berserkers when i don;t have an AC

hazy oriole
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oddly enough my pocket smg seems to do better against them than the penetrator

honest acorn
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Berserkers are just lost... brood commanders basically

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they're so tough

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Terminids wish they had these MFs

dusky solar
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they should add a gun that can 2 tap headshot and stun brood commanders like the old slugger lmao

keen zinc
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The Punisher

dusky solar
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like give it a smaller clip

keen zinc
dusky solar
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punisher doesn't have the armor pen to do it tho

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with punisher don't you just blow off legs like the breaker?

honest acorn
keen zinc
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I've blown off plenty of Brood Commander heads

dusky solar
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"ah, you were at my side all along... my guiding break action..."

keen zinc
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Only their forehead plate is armor

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The rest is fair game

stone bridge
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Autocannon does it in one shot, fun fact

honest acorn
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I like to shoot them other places because the headless charge can sometimes do a shitload of damage

dusky solar
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tbf it was probably bad anyway to shoot heads

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the number of breaches

honest acorn
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but they do die faster

dusky solar
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that get summoned by a headless invincible brood commander

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man that's always funny

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goofy ass design lol

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so people are saying they nerfed 500kg AGAIN, but i haven't seen anything official about it

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did they?

keen zinc
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I love my Punisher

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It throws Brood Commanders backwards like 10 feet

quick plinth
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Laser Cannon

stone bridge
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The 500kg has never been touched

quick plinth
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just

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Laser Cannon

honest acorn
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500 kg seemed to be the same as normal to me

dusky solar
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right?? like there have been several times people have been like "oh they stealth nerfed 500"

graceful bluff
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Surprised I still haven't seen any of the new bot enemy yet

keen zinc
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People act like you need medium pen to deal with devastators but I've never struggled to kill them with normal guns

cobalt patrol
graceful bluff
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cobalt patrol
dusky solar
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smaller AOE was the nerf someone said, i haven't seen anything legit about it like i said

quick plinth
dusky solar
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but the 500 did have its radius reduced several patches ago right

quick plinth
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no

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I'm fairly sure its always been like that

graceful bluff
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120 and 380 got their aim radius reduced

quick plinth
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500 has a small damage radius but it's a nuke on demand basically

cobalt patrol
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500 has either a cone or cylinder aoe, not a sphere. It's very powerful, just requires precision

dusky solar
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hm. guess it felt like it went from killing bile titans very reliably to much less reliably

honest acorn
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500 is weird because the damage falloff is so extreme

dusky solar
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i still like the 500 for bot objectives

cobalt patrol
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I routinely crush hulks with the bomb, not the explosion.

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graceful bluff
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direct impacts never get old

honest acorn
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That might be anecdotal bile titans are just really inconsistent with everything imo

cobalt patrol
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And routinely one shot Biles why it

quick plinth
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and now we can't even stun them for easy 500s anymore

cobalt patrol
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The trick to Biles is you want them to stand over it

dusky solar
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"biles are inconsistent" for fricken real

cobalt patrol
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Which is v. Easy to get to happen

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And I do it all the time

dusky solar
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really? i often have biles stop at random to barf rather than walking towards my squad

cobalt patrol
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Ask @stone bridge they're used to my silly bile hitting

dusky solar
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so the bomb goes off in front of them

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whereas if they'd kept walking it woulda gone off right under em

cobalt patrol
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Get closer, Helldiver

honest acorn
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Yeah they move weird and what kills them is pretty weird

dusky solar
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that's my biggest problem with hitting 500s

honest acorn
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I've had them take anywhere from 1-4 110 rocket pod hits

dusky solar
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i prefer orbital rail anyway to throw at them

honest acorn
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Shit Nalesh killed one with a strafing run once

cobalt patrol
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I'm a flamer main against bots, so I just get up close and nail them with the 500

keen zinc
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I once jumped on a bile titan

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I didn't do anything but it was fun

dusky solar
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i don't usually take 500 on bugs anymore tbf, usually cluster airstrike and orbital rail

cobalt patrol
# honest acorn I've had them take anywhere from 1-4 110 rocket pod hits

Biles have extreme amounts of body health. The head is weaker, but can still take a beating unless you get the shot just right with the eat. Spear is a consistent one hit if the Titan is facing you

The rocket pods will at least tear a hole in the armour, and that usually makes killing them easy - impacts into the hole do them in very fast

dusky solar
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spear........

quick plinth
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one thing that's really nice for BTs is applying the spear to the forehead

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one taps them

dusky solar
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when spear works it's so cool

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i love spear

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when it works

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lmao

honest acorn
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Yeah that seemed pretty consistent once lock was achieved

quick plinth
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I think some here can back me up on that

stone bridge
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RR and Spear are going to pop off this patch imo

cobalt patrol
quick plinth
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headshotting BT's with the spear for a 75% chance at an insta kill

honest acorn
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The improved ammo economy is great

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Also lots of fights on cold planets

dusky solar
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doubling the amount of ammo you get from pickups for spear Kreygasm

idle hollow
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time to become a spess mehreen

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cobalt patrol
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I'm still going to be flamethrower 500kg psychopath, but I'll be going my part to keep the bugs distracted

alpine seal
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retried spear the day before the patch and liked it more than i expected to, though i won't lie the lock is aggravating against moving targets

dusky solar
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JAR-5 is going to replace slugger for me vs bugs, so excited to grind the last SC for it

alpine seal
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so i might pick it up again especially with all the new spear targets

quick plinth
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@alpine seal have you tried the ping and aim where its telling you, trick?

alpine seal
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that's a thing?

quick plinth
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as in it shows you where it's roughly trying to lock onto

stone bridge
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Lady Havoc has a great tip where if you ping a target and aim at - yeah lol

quick plinth
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centre mass

alpine seal
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thats interesting

dusky solar
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it varies on EVERYTHING

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super good trick

alpine seal
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i've heard some claims that pinging helps the spear lock-on but i don't know how much of that is placebo

dusky solar
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it's applicable to a lot of games tbf

alpine seal
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if it really does assist the lockon that's huge

dusky solar
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it doesn't specifically assist it, but my guess is that the model has a single point that the missile likes to lock on to

honest acorn
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Yeah I think the spear cares about how much smoke/fog there is as well

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So it sort of sucks on Draupnir

dusky solar
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if they added a manual aim mode

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my god

graceful bluff
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Give me unreal tournament Redeemer mode

kindred lintel
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with the dominator dmg buff does it still ricochet like hell?

dusky solar
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probably yes

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because it didn't get increased armor pen

keen zinc
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Me want AMR gaming

idle hollow
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it does

graceful bluff
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The dominators gimmick is insane damage no armor pen

keen zinc
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Me no want work

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Can the new AMR now pop Bile Spewers easily

honest acorn
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If the Spear had a SACLOS mode it would be the funniest and maybe best weapon in the game for AT

dusky solar
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preach it

keen zinc
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Better: a TOW mode

honest acorn
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Funniest because of when a Hunter leaps in front of the beam when you're walking a missile onto the bile titan 70 meters behind it

keen zinc
graceful bluff
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Imagine being able to drift SPEAR missiles around obstacles

keen zinc
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I member the tow missile from warhawk

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Fun as fuck

dusky solar
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any form of like... laser designated "keep the dot on the target" weapon would be so fun

honest acorn
keen zinc
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Oh I thought you meant a guiding system, I meant where you fly the missile yourself from a camera

honest acorn
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Oh I misunderstood then

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Yeah a TV missile kind of thing would be awesome

dusky solar
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give me a space magic semi active radar homing surface to surface missile

keen zinc
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Lock yourself in place and fly that B in

dusky solar
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that would be so funny

keen zinc
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Give the spear like 6 different stupid firing modes

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Press 5 to switch

dusky solar
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don't you already have alternate firing modes on "hold reload"

stoic lotus
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relevant arma clip

keen zinc
dusky solar
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XDDD

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wait what reason would there be to have

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low missile speed

keen zinc
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Ez to fly in tv mode

honest acorn