Helldivers 2: For Managed Democracy!

[honest acorn]

Though the far drop trick is still kind of important

[idle hollow]

then why do we keep fucking up!!!

grahhhhhhghghgh

[glacial light]

It's a war weren't not meant to win

Also Joel has to make sure we don't progress too fast and gives us really difficult major orders so we fail occasionally

Remember the liberate 4 planets one we failed? Followed by hold 5 planets one we somehow did

[azure pewter]

<@&1206091872716595200> drive hivers

[glacial light]

And the one that got us banned from sex

[quick plinth]

no

sex doesn't neccesairly result in a child

[keen zinc]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ah2I166f_U

[stoic lotus]

I did not realise GI joe was dutch

🇳🇱

[verbal summit]

Hell yea

[shrewd tiger]

We could use 2 more divers in https://discord.gg/Yuzqx7EF

[dusk agate]

I can't believe that Command would throw shade at the Creekers like this

[stiff pine]

Believe it or not, pressing your helmet tenderly against your squadmates is if anything, more homoerotic

[modest fiber]

damng i gotta get back in there and do my part.. damng scheduling

[idle hollow]

quasar's great

[idle hollow]

good

hate creekers

[hazy oriole]

what is it with all this "creeker" hate anw

[dusk agate]

for shammee

[south temple]

they don't contribute to the spread of democracy enough (why malevelon when draupnir is the goal)

[keen zinc]

?

[glacial light]

Redditors who make memes about being creekers and never having left the creek since day 1

[south temple]

to be fair the creek is very fun

the forests are sick as shit

[glacial light]

Then the counter memes about how being a malevelon creek veteran means nothing and then it got kind of mean

[dusk agate]

Yeah, that sounds about right

[hazy oriole]

yeah i don't want the mean-spiritedness to spread here is all

[glacial light]

I'm a proponent of play as you want

Even in a weird cynical practical sense its a video game, it's better to have players on in the first place then for them to not enjoy the game and not play at all

[south temple]

true

[alpine seal]

bugs reclaiming all the planets we just took back to the control line, bots stomping out ubanea with their flanking maneuver

i won't lie, it's not looking good for us

but i have faith in managed democracy

[kindred lintel]

super earth command super passive aggressive at the bug and creek players

[alpine seal]

85,000 at the creek now is likely from chain of command failures, the average super destroyer is likely not cued in on supply lines

they're only telling those listening to outside-network channels, the official galactic map doesn't list what's connected to what!

[hot meadow]

I don’t post any creeker hate but I will say I’m tired of the memes about it on the subreddit

That said ppl should play the way they want to play, it’s a matter of taste

[keen zinc]

they need to add a toggle to display supply lines on the map

[hot meadow]

I honestly didn’t even know this was a mechanic until this chat pointed it out, yeah

[burnt vapor]

Yeah it’s very unclear about which planets lead where so a bunch of people are at the creek thinking it’s the fastest way to back to Ubanea at this point

At this point I’ve accepted that this major order was doomed the moment they split the player base with the draupnir defence

Especially if some of the theories about how libration progress works as of the 21st are true

[alpine seal]

with the major order scuttled at this point i'm ready to head to the creek just to get that pyrrhic victory

[burnt vapor]

Honestly at this point that sounds like the best idea put an end to the meme that is the creek

[stiff pine]

Nah creek 4 life

Honestly completing major orders is just for medals, it's not like the galaxy map is a campaign you can actually win

[keen zinc]

major orders do actually decide on how Joel does stuff

thats what theyre for

[wide mural]

finally tried the quasar and maaaaaaan against bots it's incredible in a tag team pair

take out drop ships, hulks, tanks, gun turrets, anything big in basically two shots

it's got my friends using the tagging system way more to coordinate shots

[stone bridge]

My controversial hot take is the Quasar is a better overall bug weapon than it is a bot weapon

[wide mural]

the range on it for the big gun emplacements is actually unreal too

haven't tried it on bugs, probably good there too

[quick plinth]

its a good weapon period

balanced out by the charge up and cooldown

[wide mural]

yeah I definitely got knocked out of charging or off target by getting hit a few times

but being able to tag something, two tap it, and keep moving feels great every time

[stone bridge]

Against bugs you can run Rover and take a medium armour buster like the plasma punisher, which covers all your bases

[wide mural]

it's exactly the support weapon I was looking for vs bots

[stone bridge]

I'd rather take an AC a lot of the time vs bots

[wide mural]

against bugs I'm a grenade launcher lifer

[burnt vapor]

The fact that it’s not an auto take is good means it’s less likely to get hit with the nerf hammer like the railgun was

[honest acorn]

I think it’s a really good weapon to bring but not a great weapon for more than 1-2 people to bring

Which is probably a good balance point

<@&1206091872716595200> who up helling their dives?

[graceful bluff]

I could dive some hells

[wide mural]

yeah I was saying to my friends that I think vs bots it's a fantastic 2-of but more than that gets kind of redundant

[junior badge]

I don't think that's official. That's just players RPing.

[keen zinc]

thats the CM

Spitz is staff

[honest acorn]

Yeah that channel is official updates

[cobalt patrol]

@keen zinc You got room? I tried to join, but got unable to join. (I'd hop in voice, but in a queit mood currently)

[daring monolith]

They could definitely make supply lines clearer ingame

Even just faint lines on the map

[burnt vapor]

even if they just showed connencted lines when you hover over a planet

[keen zinc]

we got room now

[cobalt patrol]

Ah, i ended up finding some randos rto play with

probably gonna stop after this op

[keen zinc]

Kk

[craggy lagoon]

Hey, are you guys able to reliable one shot hulk with a head shot?

I've literally never been able to

[glacial light]

With quasar yes

[craggy lagoon]

Well with anything, but where do you aim?

I fill the circle but it still misses

[rapid plover]

the eye

[glacial light]

Does the eye have armor?

[stone bridge]

You need to very specifically aim for the eye slit, which has medium armour

[honest acorn]

It’s a pretty small target

[stone bridge]

Yeah it's legitimately hard to hit

[graceful bluff]

go into first person

basically no chance you'll hit it in third

[undone veldt]

The EAT, Quasar and Recoilless can all do it

Unfortunately yah it’s tough shot

Even more so when you’re running away from a hulk

Which is pretty often

[stone bridge]

Stun grenades help a ton

[undone veldt]

Yah they’re probably your best bet to get it during a firefight

[kindred lintel]

Are stun grenades impact?

I unlocked them but never use them

[honest acorn]

No but the fuse is short and the blast radius humongous

[stone bridge]

Stun Grenades are very competitive with impacts

They'll probably never be nerfed though

[kindred lintel]

I use incindiary nades

[stone bridge]

Everyone wants their insta damage

That's fair, make sure you're host if you do though

Fire ticks don't deal damage if you aren't

[kindred lintel]

Pretty sure the tick dmg is bugged, not the fire pool dmg

But yes, worse in general

[stone bridge]

Yeag

[idle hollow]

People who just never ever stop playing on malevelon and are

basically useless

to everyone fighting elsewhere

[stone bridge]

Atlas, we've already had people ask for folks to not bash others for their gameplay choices

[idle hollow]

Also people hate doing defence missions

[stone bridge]

Let's not make this a thing

[idle hollow]

i was just explaining the whole creeker thing

[stone bridge]

It was already explained hours ago

[idle hollow]

and i didn’t see the explanation, my bad

[stone bridge]

That's fine

[honest acorn]

The defense missions don’t seem so bad any more

[kindred lintel]

I havn't seen the people escape one in a while (being only that one, not tied as a missions thing)

[burnt vapor]

Yeah now that you aren't forced to do the objectively worst game mode in every op they're fine but I imagine alot of people are still avoiding them after being burned by the first ones

Also doesn't help that to my knowledge there was never an official mention that they had changed it

[honest acorn]

There was it was just fixed a lot time ago

In two separate patches iirc

I think it’s still good to offset your defense from the extract

But it’s ime a relatively sedate defense now

[keen zinc]

i swear to god the HMG just shoots a cartoon outline around a hulks eye whenever you really need it to actually be worth its weight

[stone bridge]

Are you accounting for the red dot misalignment when you're aiming?

[keen zinc]

yes

the HMG just genuinely blows chunks

[barren reef]

I feel like I need to run it on lowest fire rate with bracing armor to be able to use it at all.

[glacial light]

Are you prone while using it

[barren reef]

I can usually move and shoot if I am tapping, I need to drop prone if I'm going to burst.

[honest acorn]

I find it relatively controllable with recoil control armor at 750 rpm but the weird and misaligned sight, total lack of tpv crosshair, and lack of hit markers make it very hard to use

Which is a shame since when it works and you can see it work it actually mulches

The damage is extremely high

[stone bridge]

It is absurd damage yeah

[barren reef]

The low mag size also hurts. I feel like I never ever wanna run it at max RPM.

[stone bridge]

It six shots hulk visors and 14-15 shots Charger butts

the problem is its just...clunky in an unfun way

[barren reef]

I didn't realize the sight was misaligned.

[stone bridge]

Yeah you need to put the RD above the desired target

[honest acorn]

Yeah the dot is too high and it shoots in the middle of the sight aiui

[upbeat vector]

Is Tibit liberated already?

[barren reef]

Nah. We lost Draupnir.

Unless we somehow captured 3 planets in a few hours.

[keen zinc]

honestly not impressed

[stone bridge]

I don't know what to tell ya

[daring monolith]

Its absurd damage. The issue is applying the damage

[keen zinc]

i feel like a stalwart at max rpm has a similar ttk as the hmg into a hulk back

[honest acorn]

Given the HMG has more damage per shot and a higher rof I think that’s literally impossible

Though I think it’s easier to employ the stalwart there

[keen zinc]

it does NOT feel like this is shooting the same bullet as the AMR

[barren reef]

This sounds like the zero of the red dot is set really short to me. 🤔

[keen zinc]

try to max fire rate the hmg in close quarters and you'll be shooting at the sky

[stone bridge]

I mean, yeah, it does less damage than the AMR, it's a video game

[honest acorn]

It’s just misaligned I think

It seems to have a really flat trajectory but the dot isn’t in the middle of the sight

[sharp crater]

from what I understand, it is zeroed correctly, but potentially the devs have re-made an IRL phenomenon: height-over-bore

(i.e., the sights sit relatively very high above the barrel, thus even tho the sights are straight on with the barrel, because it sits so high above the barrel, it can't really be aligned without it being innacurate at any range beyond the one it's aligned to to)

(I say potentially as they've recreated some other weird gun idiosyncrasies in other places aiui)

[glacial light]

The attention to detail and realism

[barren reef]

Yeah the game is so weirdly simulationist in other ways it'd be a strange oversight.

[honest acorn]

The dot is just in the wrong spot lol

My added red dot is the true aim point

[sharp crater]

maybe that too lol

got banged up on re-entry

[barren reef]

Isn't the sight on the top cover that you flip up to reload?

[sharp crater]

fwiw I like the HMG, I just wish it had more ammo (either in mag or reserves)

[barren reef]

It seems like it might be a solid arguement to run supply backpack.

You get 2 mags per supply!

[honest acorn]

Pretty sure you get 1 for the HMG

Same as the mmg for some reason

[keen zinc]

its throwing me, at 450 rpm it doesnt do enough damage, but at 1200 rpm it will jump to shooting satellites if you try to track upward

[barren reef]

I am pretty sure it's 2, I swear I tested it but I may have been intoxicated.

[honest acorn]

If it did get 2 mags for a supply pack it’d be much easier to keep fed

[keen zinc]

it gets 2

[honest acorn]

Oh that’s nice

[sharp crater]

huh! that is nice.

[keen zinc]

yeah i just dont get this thing

[stone bridge]

Are you wearing one of the recoil reduction armours?

[keen zinc]

yes

[honest acorn]

Tbh it just lives on 750 most of the time for me

[keen zinc]

ill try that out more

[honest acorn]

1200 is too much for most targets and weird to control and 450 is mostly just for shooting on the move

Since you can fire 2 shots without losing aim while walking on 450 iirc

[keen zinc]

what aim

[forest crater]

:D I got the supah citizen edition

[honest acorn]

Well I point the sight just above the target and shoot

[barren reef]

Yeah never tps aim with it.

[honest acorn]

You can at very short range but yeah

Though maybe quick scope aim is different from normal tpv aim

[stone bridge]

<@&1206091872716595200> anyone up to play in 5-10?

[sharp crater]

sure

[keen zinc]

SURE

like, even using the sights i cant hit a distant target because no hitmarkers

i dont know if i am hitting the rocket dev or just getting myself killed for poking my head up

wait a fucking second

do the tracers not show up on low graphics

they dont

holy shit

on lowest particles you get no tracers

[shy prairie]

oof

[keen zinc]

it can take out stuff like mortar turrets tho which is something

[unkempt river]

[keen zinc]

and thus no helldiving

[keen zinc]

My review of the HMG after taking it on 10 suicide missions: its damage is good but it's impact stagger is not enough to allow you to trade with devastators, it's armor pen is a great utility but it's not accurate enough to allow you to hit hulk faceplates reliably, it's ammo is just scarce enough to make misses really hurt and the recoil and low control make misses frequent

If it had third person crosshairs or a correctly aligned magnified optic, it would be worlds better

It's ammo is too valuable for close and spray, but it's not accurate enough for fire support, so it's just weird feeling

[daring monolith]

even if it had a correctly aligned and smaller red dot

rather than the massive dot it has now

[keen zinc]

It's aim rattle and muzzle flash make the close combat optic it currently has really suboptimal

Everything about this gun is at war with itself

[unreal merlin]

my dude really enjoys his anti-tank tools

Okay he traded the RR for a 500kg

[stone bridge]

Holy shit

[cobalt patrol]

Hahaha amazing

I respect the flex, honestly

Also oh my god, people need to stop the hyperbole about bots

[stone bridge]

What happened?

[cobalt patrol]

Ah, just goofyness inthat forum i've mentioned before

[junior badge]

oooh, the Dominator is fun

like the scorcher, it's kinda what I wanted the DMRs to be

never popped devastator/zerker heads so easily before

[cobalt patrol]

Nice! I should really give it another go

i remeber being very put off by it's handling

[cobalt patrol]

<@&1206091872716595200> HELLDIVERS! DRAUPNIR NEEDS YOU (to bleed all over hte mist)

https://i.redd.it/hanq8eq9ukrc1.png

important info for ye ol' Helldivers above

Liberation % is based off XP earned in a mission

so full clear with full extracts matters!

@junior badge Get in the dropod, Diver. We're doing diff 8 bots

[junior badge]

let me extract first

[cobalt patrol]

Its on private so join up whenver 🙂

[oblique storm]

@keen zinc now you can't say to avoid outposts

[cobalt patrol]

<@&1206091872716595200> We've room for 1 more!

[craggy lagoon]

How do you make a game private? I know friends only but that doesn't show up as private in my friends screen

But some of my friends do show private and I can't join

[junior badge]

Friends only is the private mode.

[craggy lagoon]

Right but sometimes I can't join friends only, and it actually says private in the social screen

[junior badge]

Yeah, it does that sometimes, but that is because the friends only mode occasionally bugs out.

It does refer to that setting, there's no other hidden setting or anything.

That's from 3yrs ago, so it's about HD1. (Edit: Referring to a deleted message.)

In HD2, there's only Public and Friends Only.

(You also cannot report or commend from the menu)

[heady halo]

ohhhh

my apologies

deleted the message to prvent confusion

[heady halo]

sorry panda i gave you completly wrong info from the first game there

[graceful bluff]

That's because the host isn't your friend, but a friend is in the lobby

[keen zinc]

https://www.rxddit.com/r/Helldivers/s/MiBdA7AkhA

Jesus Christ people are trying to treat this like Arma

[blissful sparrow]

just hold W and shift and LMB

[copper crest]

I'm confused by this "team 1, squad command, team 2" affair

[junior badge]

Yeah, how many people do they play with?

[keen zinc]

Lmao

Imagine a squad of Helldivers

Chaos

[stoic lotus]

this post has to be a joke

[keen zinc]

I mean those are the actual formations

90% of the time you're gonna be in wedge

The rest of the time is column (cross country) or staggered column (on a road)

[forest crater]

Oh! I forgot to share a mission moment i had last night

[stoic lotus]

the fact it has two teams with squad command means the image is either just taken from somewhere else or specifically made to be wrong

[keen zinc]

It's an Army image

[stoic lotus]

because there are not 10 players in a helldivers lobby

[keen zinc]

No shit Sherlockthony

[stoic lotus]

which is why I say the post is a joke because trying to apply squad formations to helldivers is nonsense

[forest crater]

We had completed virtually every objective; main, tactical, factories, and we were at the extract point waiting for our guy to come on down

[keen zinc]

WEDGE FORMATION, WE'RE MOOOOVIN' OUT

[stoic lotus]

helldivers formations consist of "roughly in one place", "teams of two on opposite sides of the map", and "everyone has fucked off and got lost"

[junior badge]

Yeah, sometimes it's 3/1 instead of 2/2 but that's about it.

(Like this morning, three people all fighting the bots, making it very easy for me to wrap up the objective.)

[forest crater]

As he did, I decided to zap the shuttle a couple times, enough to make it start burning. He lands, someone gets in before everyone else...and immediately leaves. No countdown. No warning about getting in at the last second. Just. Leaves.

[keen zinc]

john rambo fucks off one billion miles away to fight a light nest, spends all 5 seaf artillery shots, and dies

light nest still active

[keen zinc]

i mean

you caused that lmao

[forest crater]

I didn't know the cause of him leaving immediately was damaging the shuttle...

I thought it was just some weird bug after waiting too long or something

[hollow plover]

"The name's Wedge, Wedge Formation."

[keen zinc]

<@&1206091872716595200> are you brave enough idiots to follow me into poorly planned offensives?

[stoic lotus]

hey, I'm wedge, this here is line, and that crazy motherfucker over there is staggered column

[graceful bluff]

The line between bravery and stupidity gets thinner every day :v

[keen zinc]

line is only ever used to police up trash in a large area

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVwiooEW57Y

[stoic lotus]

this mf has NO experience of napoleonic warfare

[keen zinc]

wrong

[stoic lotus]

how so

[keen zinc]

a good quarter of this is napoleonic warfare

[stoic lotus]

shit

[graceful bluff]

sub 1k hours, babby :v

[stoic lotus]

(into wrist mic) he's a nerd! he's a nerd!

[keen zinc]

too many racisms

[naive dragon]

Me bringing my vet friends into hd2 and they're like "if I meet one more tacticool larper I'm going to uninstall"

It's very fun playing with them tho

Very goofy

[keen zinc]

this is why i dont play Squad and games like it

like, i devoted 4 years of my life to that, i dont need to larp it

[naive dragon]

One of my guys goes on about the use of words like artillery and mortar being used wrong

[stoic lotus]

I am a tacticool larper because I have an assault pack (perfect size for ryanair carry-on) with a big pride patch on it

[keen zinc]

when i came out in my unit i found a slur written poorly over my barracks room nametag

on the other hand

[naive dragon]

"three massholes in the creek" is always a fun night

[keen zinc]

all the guys in my platoon were down to kill someone over it so that was nice

[naive dragon]

Glad those guys were cool

[keen zinc]

infantry platoons are basically family units

[naive dragon]

Understandable

[keen zinc]

the PL and PSG are your mom and dad

[graceful bluff]

"No one fucks with my unit except me"

[keen zinc]

we were Bravo company, third platoon

we called ourselves the "Bastards"

[naive dragon]

Dope

[keen zinc]

Bastard 1 Romeo was my callsign when i was rto

(we got in trouble on batt comms once and had to "change" it)

[stoic lotus]

like tomatoangus

[keen zinc]

if we liberate the creek

all the creekdivers are evicted to new fronts

[naive dragon]

I have been leaving my funny planet to help people who have little bot experience

It will be very fun to see what the new creek will be

[keen zinc]

https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Fhtnovicsf7lc1.jpeg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZGINaRUEkU

[naive dragon]

I recognize an elite dangerous map when I see one

[naive dragon]

Honestly tho

It's something you'd read in a book, go "that seems unrealistic and inefficient of them", then it happens IRL and you go "oh right people are like that"

[honest acorn]

Yeah it is haha

It’s just like nearly 2 real divisions of players have been trapped on the creek for the whole game’s life span

[heady halo]

its what we deserve 😌

[naive dragon]

I am proud to be an atmospheric storytelling skeleton

[thorn inlet]

Are there particular reasons that Malevelon Creek is hard to take?

[cerulean sluice]

Jungle, low light levels even during daytime, lots of water, and maps that play into bot advantages

[naive dragon]

I think it would be funny if they release a creek cape

[undone veldt]

Also the environmental effect that stops stratagems being one of the worst to deal with

[naive dragon]

I think it's funny how I've been to so many more bot missions than bug but my big kill count is still higher

Just from participating in major orders and being jumped to bug side by friends

[oak crow]

i also think people have a harder time adjusting to bots

once they do, the jungle makes it lot easier to fight honestly

[heady halo]

also no mission for it because its pointless right now, its a hard fight that doesnt actually get you anything

so not enough people do it to actually cap but the people doing it dont care, its like a tf2 de dust lobby thats been running hte same game since 2019

[sinful bay]

Also, legit
If I was to have a good shot in the devs hearing about players wanting a vanity slot, where I would go?

[heady halo]

invest several thousand dollars in their company and invite one of them to dinner somewhere fancy

[stiff pine]

creek is extremely fun to fight on if you enjoy playing as VC

[cobalt patrol]

Ion storms are pretty chill honestly. Way easier to cope with than anything else

Creek honestly favours players tactics wise. It's just that it's memeticlly hard, and frankly, most players are terrible at bots and tend to piss them all off. Getting flanked by bots is a death sentence

[junior badge]

Unless they're at exactly the wrong time.

But I generally agree that cooldowns and call-in times suck more

[undone veldt]

Honestly they’re my least favorite

Meteor swarms are more potentially dangerous but I’ve honestly had them help more then hurt sometimes

I’ve straight up had them delete outposts on the other side of the map

[honest acorn]

I think tremors are easier than ion storms but I agree that they’re no so bad

Annoying when they stall an objective though

[junior badge]

Yeah, tremors are definitely the least bad.

[oak crow]

imo as long as you have good anti tank w/ your support and good anti horde with your primary

then you're fine in ion storms

as long as you stay mobile

sure it sucks not having artillery or aerial support, but yknow

[junior badge]

unless you're at an objective that requires a 500kg or hellbomb

or there's a horde after you for one reason or another and you really need something big to clear space

that sort of thing is what I meant by "exactly the wrong time"

[oak crow]

true enough

[glacial light]

Tremors don't really stop you from dolphin diving around oddly enough

Quasar yet again is a godsend for ion storms cause I'm no longer basically locked out of my AT when an ion storm hits or there's a jammer

I kind of stopped bring 2 AT red stratagems to bots now

Airburst is becoming my new favorite as it's basically a delete that dropship or breach

And it has a pretty fast CD so I never feel bad about using it when even the slightest chance of a reinforce loops happens

[hazy oriole]

Airburst can hit dropships?

[cobalt patrol]

They mean the things that come out of the dropships

but due to it's explosive tag and AP, it can kill hulks and even tanks? if the angle is right

[glacial light]

Yes

It's for killing whatever comes out of the dropship

[keen zinc]

<@&1206091872716595200> gamers assemble

[heady halo]

for ion storms i think the best would prolly be like. punisher for mediums and hordes, revolver for single target dps and quaser for heavies

[glacial light]

I find that just 2 ad clear stratagems makes a big difference in a 4 player comp

[heady halo]

i would but i am in bed

[glacial light]

I would be I have lunch in 30 minutes but in like 2.5 hours I'll be free

[heady halo]

paires with either shield or laser rover as u gotta get stuck in, and save nades for bases

[cobalt patrol]

There's a reason i worship at the church of 380.

[glacial light]

Wild

[cobalt patrol]

It's an everything clear strat!

[glacial light]

380mm scares me too much

[cobalt patrol]

Honestly, if you get the hang of a: dive-throwing, and b: keeping an eye on where the super destroyer is so you know the angle the shells will come in at

it's pretty safe

[hexed steeple]

380mm cool but whenever someone drops it on a point that we need to go on to in order to advance the mission i start vibrating

[cobalt patrol]

Oh, yeah, dont do that.

[stiff pine]

I will say, Penguin throws good 380's

[cobalt patrol]

I use it to cut off incoming patrols, take out heavy bases, etc

sometimes i'll hero mode and drop it on myself because i'm going out

[stiff pine]

I have never been inconvenienced by them (by having my limbs blown off)

[cobalt patrol]

but i generally try and warn people when it's "Okay, situation fucked, 380ing it"

If you're throwing them into where you need to go, that's generally silly unless it's like... a heavy base/command bunker/depo.

it's a tool for blocking an area off.

[glacial light]

Smart helldiving, a rare thing to see

Mostly from me

[cobalt patrol]

and sometimes energetically liberating heads from bodies.

[cobalt patrol]

My ship is named the prophet of audacity for a reason.

now, watch thi- dies amusingly

[stiff pine]

watch this dood

[cobalt patrol]

Or as @stone bridge can confirm, seeing me go sailiing over head, land, jab myself with a stim and run off again is pretty common.

Anyway, 380 is basically a companion to the Orbital laser

it's more spammable at cost of being much harder to use and less reliable

[glacial light]

Stim armor is so good, in any situation where you're not full health just stim yourself

[rotund marten]

I haven't got to try the new weapons yet since I've been busy for a week or so

I'm looking forward to it

[cobalt patrol]

but they achieve the same goal which is "fuck this situation extremley"

[hazy oriole]

Airburst is good on armor??? Goddamn

[glacial light]

HMG needs QoL buff in mostly needing reticle and stuff

[glacial light]

Specifically hitting the weakpoints on those enemies

[cobalt patrol]

Clarity: It's that it has the explosive tag, which means it hits the vents on hulks/tanks. So it'll punch those out of existence.

It relies on angle, and it's not garunteed, but it does do a lot of damage.

I bring it all the time into bugs because it's extremely good

[glacial light]

Quasar is goated as basically a Recoiless you need to charge up but is a laser weapon

[hazy oriole]

gotta give it a try sometime

[cobalt patrol]

(Also bugs often have increased scatter, and that just aint safe with 380)

[hazy oriole]

speaking of underrated orbitals ive been really enjoying the EMS strike

[glacial light]

Also good

[cobalt patrol]

I wish it and smoke were slightly faster cooldowns

i have trouble justifying them vs the turret and eagle versions

[hazy oriole]

yeah, true
I don't have the turret yet tho and eagle doesn't have an ems strike iirc (wish it did tho)

[glacial light]

I want to like it but EMS strike CD is too fast for me and I often let it be unused in situations where I should have spammed it more, very personal quirk but it looks good to people that know how tonsoam it

[hazy oriole]

Yeah, it's a great "oh shit" button ib my ezperience

[glacial light]

Eagle EMS strike would be the best bully button

For the next 5 minutes this hulk is in gay baby jail

[cobalt patrol]

It's why i like the turret, EMS turret bullies everything so much

Just extremely rude little turret

[hazy oriole]

Yeah, plus it won't hurt your teammates as much as the mortar

[cobalt patrol]

Mortar is just flat out a trap vs Bugs

and dangerous but useful into bots

[glacial light]

Everytime I'm here to talk about HD2 as a way to vicariously live through y'all it makes me want to blow up bots and bugs

[heady halo]

unless you are running solo in which case its a lifesaver

[merry cosmos]

Is that a bad thing?

[glacial light]

Yes

Helldivers is like the complete opposite of Arma in many ways

At least below diff 8 and 9 it's silly, chaotic, disorganized

With death to be expected and bad decisions made when a million and one things are happening and you slip up once

To expect Arma tactics to work in HD2 is silly and sort of harmful if the host is serious about it

[oblique storm]

https://youtu.be/o3uXGTjSufY?si=_RPcJAdGUyqFCVhA

[honest acorn]

I do think formations and spacing at least are pretty relevant

But yeah forcing people to play certain ways is not a good look for hosts imo

[glacial light]

It sort of only works if everyone is like using a gun similar to a modern one imo, I'd never do column with 2 arc thrower users or blitz shotgun or GL

But spacing is good to avoid a single cannon tower, rocket devastators, charger, spewer to blow everyone up

[honest acorn]

You don’t really want to be in a column formation while fighting anyway

[glacial light]

Like Arma tactics, based on real life ones are meant to be used for 2 symmetrical human factions. HD2 is very asymmetrical we're killing at least like 30 enemies for each death and have greater firepower at our disposable than our enemies which often resort to swarm tactics essentially and don't have the same survival instinct as humans would

It's less effective when your enemy isn't human and isn't acting like one

[merry cosmos]

Idk what to say other than like. Maybe let people take the Game seriously if they want instead of insisting it's supposed to be constantly chaotic and silly

[glacial light]

Sure but that original tweet was doing exactly that of telling others how to play

There's like levels of nuances for telling others to play like telling new arc thrower and new players to check for friendlies before they throw or fire. Vs telling others what to use or not use.

I did not mean to come across as hating on serious but plenty of people take the game seriously as right now without involving arma tactics. Diff 8 and 9 do require serious strategy to complete the mission and not goofing around.

I'm moreso pointing that Arma tactics is specifically human vs human with modern weaponry and vehicles whereas Helldivers has unconventional weapons and enemies and many things aren't applicable due to that. Trying to integrate tactics from a different game with very different design philosophy may not be the best decision to be trying to enforce on others as that tweet seems to be trying to get going

But if the group agrees to treat HD2 like a starship trooper esque scifi milsim then that's fine, it's just weird to try to make a thing with strangers who likely have different expectations going in

[modest fiber]

<@&1206091872716595200> gonna be scrapping some bots, so am once again asking for dudes

[sharp crater]

can join in maybe 30 if there's still room

[modest fiber]

<@&1206091872716595200> still need more men for the order, gotta get this done in 14hrs

[keen zinc]

not just men, but women and children too!

[honest acorn]

What is the new order?

[keen zinc]

same order

[sharp crater]

logging on as we speak!

[keen zinc]

but ubanea is open

we're trying to blitz to tibit

[stoic lotus]

don't forget all the cool and awesome non binary people who are really good at video games

[modest fiber]

as long as they are above 16 and can hold a gun, its good enough for super earth

[keen zinc]

the thems must be mobilized

[glacial light]

Only children over the ages of 7

[graceful bluff]

The nonbinary are the perfect soldiers to fight the automatons

[stoic lotus]

[modest fiber]

lol

[strange vine]

https://www.deviantart.com/the-red-right-hand/art/Delany-u-k-hon-1036803487

[merry cosmos]

Automoton turn coat?

[glacial light]

Would I risk becoming a brainwashed automating puppet if it meant I had a melee fist like a devastator? Yes

[undone veldt]

Honestly not a big change for a Helldiver

[glacial light]

It's not brainwashing if you're willingly buying into the propaganda /s

[copper crest]

That is actually the original brainwashing

The US coined the term when too many POWs were defecting or coming back commie sympathizing

[sour whale]

washing your brain is a good idea, free thinking is stinky. the algorithm can handle all that for us /s

[keen zinc]

Those damn bots and their damn rockets

[merry cosmos]

The ballistic sheld as grown on me

[undone veldt]

I feel like this game really is just using the quantum troll technique for its content drops

No matter what happens we’re getting the new stuff they make

Game development is to taxing to just throw that away because the playerbase couldn’t complete a major order

[graceful bluff]

I mean you're already brainwashed so what does it matter who's doing it :v

[undone veldt]

Also the automatons seem pretty chill tbh

Like outside of war

[idle hollow]

I feel like we’re 100% getting back to Tibit

probably not taking it though

[wide mural]

should only be about an hour and a half until ubanea's liberated, leaving us 9ish for tibit before the major order expires

[burnt vapor]

yeah tibit will not be liberated in time for the major order

even if the entire player base converged on tibit for the entire time we would maybe get half way there

[wide mural]

idk the number of people on ubanea keeps ticking up, I don't think I've ever seen >50% of the playerbase on one planet before

that said things will definitely fall off as it gets late into sunday night so you're probably right

[merry cosmos]

Bullshit

They only think of two things. Violence and more Violence

They must be disassembled in the name of freedom™️ and voting™️

[undone veldt]

Idk man I talked to a berserker the other day

Dude just wants to be a hero and get a girlfriend

Also he had this adorable dog

[honest acorn]

This isn't true they also think about hating voting

[wind arrow]

is hating voting not the bugs' thing?

[burnt vapor]

The bugs are incapable of hate they operate on pure instinct

The instinct to destroy all freedom loving voters

[tall nova]

Can the quasar cannon kill bot factories?

[merry cosmos]

If you hit a very specific point on the vents

[tall nova]

I'll have to figure out where. I tried earlier and could never do it

[honest acorn]

It's similar to the autocannon's requirements

[tall nova]

Wait autocannon can do it too?

[honest acorn]

Yeah

[tall nova]

Holy shit, where

[honest acorn]

You have to hit the covers of the vents at about a 45 degree angle

Like imagine the shell bouncing down into the factory off of them sort of

[meager saffron]

yeah it's incredibly finicky and annoying

but it can be done and replicated

[tall nova]

Good to know

[honest acorn]

It's more annoying with the quasar because if you mess up its like 15 seconds to try again haha

[meager saffron]

comes in clutch if you run impacts which are even more fucking annoying

[tall nova]

I cant shoot down drop ships with the autocannon but I know you can

[honest acorn]

I think that's a weight of fire or impact angle thing

[stone bridge]

The Autocannon ricochet trick is very easy and consistent once you get the hang of it

You want to be quite close

[wide mural]

I've been able to somewhat consistently kill the factories with a quasar but the positioning requirement is enough that half the time it's worth it to just airstrike instead

[graceful bluff]

The nice part is that you can snipe them at absurd ranges

[burnt vapor]

I find it’s more consistent to do from a distance then up close so you can hit the lower part of the vent easier

[burnt vapor]

I have unironically used the quasar to clear an entire search and destroy without leaving my landing site by just being on a hill and sniping with it

[wide mural]

oh yeah the quasar's accuracy at range is unreal, plenty of snipes halfway across the map to destroy broadcast towers, gun emplacements, etc

[supple siren]

do wish it was a oneshot to the gun tower vents, but that might be tooooo efficient

[graceful bluff]

It has zero drop

[burnt vapor]

and if you lay down prone it has zero sway in first person

[glacial light]

I think they hate managed democracy's "voting"

I find you shoot directly into the vent with quasar works best

[honest acorn]

This also works on most haters of voting

[unkempt river]

<@&1206091872716595200> WE SUPPORT TRANS RIGHTS, NOT TRANSMISSION RIGHTS. SPILL OIL!

[keen zinc]

wherefor

[primal river]

could I get people to add me?

#6463-1867

[merry cosmos]

Pink washed helldiver propaganda

[hazy oriole]

UBANEA LIBERATED FELLAS
FULL SPEED AHEAD TO TIBIT

[strange vine]

you have to hit the vent cover so the shot ricochets into the vent

[strange vine]

nah as long as youre like facing the vents from a head on angle you can shoot em at any range. Ive sniped fabs from 100+ meters with the AC

[rough ravine]

Man, I love the redeemer

Nice little panic burndown on berzerkers when you're outta primary

[stone bridge]

I mean, if you have a direct shot yes

I mean ricochets

[strange vine]

yeah? thats exactly what im talking about?

i aim at the vent covers and itll always ricochet in as long as my angle is roughly head on

[stone bridge]

I see

I'll have to try that again, never worked for me in the past

[strange vine]

it does get finicky given the poor sights and the sway

the farther out

[shy prairie]

You can also set it to semi auto and have what is AFAIK a strict upgrade to the starting pistol

[rough ravine]

I mean I basically only use it at point blank range on berzerker weakspots

[vestal trail]

The Redeemer is such a strict upgrade over the starting pistol the devs have stated they're reworking the starting pistol

[stone bridge]

Oh they did?

Hella

[wind arrow]

nice

[stiff pine]

I hope it's good I don't want to buy an entire 1000sc pass for the senator

but I do love revolvers

[junior badge]

Oh nice, it really needs that.

Anyway, anyone up for some divin, <@&1206091872716595200> ?

[stone bridge]

<@&1206091872716595200> anyone up to play in ~15?

[unkempt river]

I'll be in HA

[hexed steeple]

"ok"

[stone bridge]

woah :) rad

[royal lantern]

Man I don't know if it's good but the plasma punisher is a lot of fun against bots. Just being able to bop the walkers straight in their armor and have them go down really makes life easier

I do wish the arc was a little less extreme though

[stone bridge]

I think its a sleeper very good weapon

It just has a very high skill ceiling

[jolly mortar]

yeah if you can master that projectile arc it becomes real mean real quick

[barren iron]

its like a little mortar

I love it

[rotund marten]

I'm not personally a fan against bugs but maybe I should try it for bots

feels kind of bad giving up the Scorcher's easy two taps on walkers at any range and ability to burn down towers and tanks, though

[stone bridge]

I brought it with the AMR today, it was really quite effective

On that note, the AMR gets kinda crazy with it if your aim is on point

[stoic lotus]

amr with a properly aligned scope would be wonderful

[stone bridge]

It would be, but you can at least play around the misalignment right now

The AMR I've gotten pretty consistent with, but the HMGs is a lot more egregious

[stoic lotus]

lol

[daring monolith]

Major order is for sure not possible now. Still, taking Tibit will be good strategically

[sinful bay]

We need at least a whole day plus

We are so close too

[daring monolith]

Anyone else feel like diff 5-6 is tougher than 7 currently? Its like sonethings messed up with the spawns

[sinful bay]

I honestly still trying to get enough common samples for all the basic stuff so I don't see much of a why to go above 4 atm

but! Yes.
Must be something about balance of unit power vs volume
As in
Yes, the total 'firepower' of a 7 spawn is greater than a 5
But a 5 has more volume than 7

[cobalt patrol]

https://i.redd.it/sh9z48g6yqrc1.jpeg

Devs.

Devs why

Dev'[s odnt hurt us on apriol fools like this

[sinful bay]

"Here is what we hate and will NOT be adding:"

[cobalt patrol]

Ugh

still do not like Domintoar

[hollow plover]

I would like it more were it quicker to track with

[sinful bay]

Yeah
Honestly for the primary slot for me is hard not to go Punisher

I tried to use the primary sniper rifle and it just felt so lacking

[stone bridge]

Sickle my beloved

[sinful bay]

I am close to unlocking it
As in, having the supercredits for it

[keen zinc]

Sickle is my best performer, but I love the Punisher

[sinful bay]

hammer when

[cobalt patrol]

Punisher just doesnt have the stuff i want from a primary

Slugger and Scorcher are life for me

Slugger is a backup option

[sinful bay]

What you use for 'true' primary? Laser Cannon?

[cobalt patrol]

Autocannon into bots

Flamethrower into bugs

but yes, that's the otehr thing your choice of support weapon dramatically shifts the temp of things

Slugger/Scorcher pair well with Flamethrower/Arc Thrower/Autocannon because they're covering different weakspots

for AMR i'd probably prefer the Sickle?

or if i'm using the Quasar etc, the nsickle or slugger is the way to go

[sinful bay]

Makes sense.
Man I really need to unlock the Cutting Edge stuff x3

[fallen tendon]

the dilligence countersniper is somehow not as good as the base dilligence - would recommend trying said base dilligence if you haven't already vs bots

vs bugs wouldn't recommend either vs an automatic weapon

[cobalt patrol]

Huh

That was a new way to wipe

All died to a tank... corpse?

and said impact

weeerid

[stone bridge]

For AMR into bots I'd take a strider busting primary if you can

Striders are ammo intensive and inefficient for it to kill

[fallen tendon]

AMR 1-2 taps the striders if you aim for the groin

just like autocannon

alternative is to sneak up on the strider and get it from behind with a quick primary shot, or circle it in close if the rest of the situation allows as they can't turn that fast

nades also work, can cook the basic nades or just lob an impact at roughly where the pilot is

[stone bridge]

I'm well aware

Though I'll need to try shooting them in the lower half again, never quite worked for me with the AMR

[cobalt patrol]

It's gotta be the crotch iirc

as that's where the strider engine block is

[hexed steeple]

what's the options for strider primaries

[cobalt patrol]

Scorcher is probably the king

3 shots anywhere usually kills them

[kindred lintel]

plasma punisher one shots them

[stone bridge]

Rn the most efficient ones are the Scorcher or the Plasma Punisher

[cobalt patrol]

Slugger can take them down via the crotch

but it's a pita.

as youi have to be precise

[stone bridge]

Scorcher two shots to the lower half, PP one shots them but you gotta land the hit

[hexed steeple]

i keep forgetting to give the scorcher a fair go

you can't use that one at close range cause you'll scorch yourself right

[stoic lotus]

I can't wait to unlock the scorcher it seems silly

[stone bridge]

Yup lmao

[hexed steeple]

okay i'll just have to develop a revolver quick draw instinct

[candid finch]

I find it most useful against bots

Since it let's you kill striders

[hexed steeple]

hate striders hate heavy devs love my autocannon love democracy simple as

[candid finch]

Wish it had a small scope option

I wanna zoom in

[fallen tendon]

yup, get em there and they fall over, sometimes the rider lives sometimes they don't so be prepared to follow up with small(er) arms or have an ally on cleanup duty

I love the autocannon more now, as while it takes longer to reload I don't have to reload as often and its got a bit more leeway for where I can shoot and still be effective on devs - AMR is definitely my next pick though just because of the ridiculous range you can provide accurate fire support over

[hollow plover]

The treads deals damage on contact, and that doesn't change when the tank is destroyed for some reason

[kindred lintel]

I've been maining the plasma punisher since it came out, and the area is larger. I personally use the enforcer armor, which lets you tank devastator rockets

What Im trying to say is that it takes practice to ignore the downsides

[cobalt patrol]

Autocannon Andrew - 2024 Teamkiller of the year.

(autocannon andrew is ofcourse, the turret_)

[stoic lotus]

nahh it's gotta be the cluster bomb or mortar

or laser dog

[cobalt patrol]

Ahahahahha.

new MO

...Liberate Malevelon Creek

(high command: not mad, honest)

[undone veldt]

I gotta say

No drop pod in fiction seems like

Good to ride in

But god the Helldiver’s ones seem like the worst

You are strapped in by nothing but your legs

The others at least strap your whole body in

These are just the soles of your shoes

[craggy lagoon]

Maybe they are filled with that liquid that eagle 1 gets, to help with the g forces

[undone veldt]

That sounds to be honest EVEN WORSE

Breathable liquid is a terrifying concept

My lungs would give out just by being near it

[fringe quiver]

It would take a bit for me to get used to but I could do it

[craggy lagoon]

I wanna say the helldiver suits are hermetically sealed cause we get dropped on a lot of different planes

Planets

But then again we do die to gas bomb so nvm lol

[stoic lotus]

it's corrosive gas

not poisonous gas

[craggy lagoon]

Oh well that makes sense

[undone veldt]

Yah otherwise it wouldn’t hurt bots to begin with

[craggy lagoon]

Then again we are always dropped on planets with human habitation so not much reason to need real space suits

[forest crater]

Aye, but a couple planets definitely seem to lack enough vegetation for there to be enough O2

Namely ones like Fenrir III, which is essentially just... our moon it seems

[strange vine]

hey the ones in 2 are an improvement over the ones in 1. At the very least it lifts you up on a platform, the ones in HD1 forced you to physically clamber out of it like youre emerging from a sewer manhole lmao

[idle hollow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/497294084348575754/1224344506111885322/Screenshot_81.png?ex=661d26ad&is=660ab1ad&hm=314c802a6c2bb7c0e95e61e08876bf57f1ad9e39b486885223bae01f379d35c6&

if they want war

we'll give em war

[undone veldt]

Jesus lol

[unreal merlin]

It's finally happening, the creek is falling.

Soon the Creek Crawlers can release a weary exhale. Not a cry of victory, they're too worn and jaded for that, but at long last they will be able to unshoulder that burden.

[alpine seal]

super earth requisite consolation prize

[orchid pulsar]

<@&1206091872716595200> anyone down to dive?

[kindred lintel]

dive

[fallen tendon]

aye aye

[cobalt patrol]

I would but i jumped into a match with a rando

and then i'll probably log

[orchid pulsar]

sure

[fallen tendon]

I just got out from one, had 5 people cycle through after pulling bots and eating reinforces

[cobalt patrol]

Welp.

I actually just said fuck it and quit that mission

because it was a disaster.

[craggy lagoon]

Anyone know if the vents on the back of heavy armored bots like hulk, the cannon tower, etc are damaged by explosive primary like scorcher?

I get the deflect symbol but you know sometimes it's not accurate

[glacial light]

They are but the deflect symbol is cause the explosion also hit the armor as well which is confusing

[dusky solar]

Vs bugs i highly recommend mech

[glacial light]

Same thing as the plasma punisher hitting a strider to the front and killing it but getting a deflect symbol dus to the front

[dusky solar]

It pulls double duty; you can breach clear in it, but you can also give it to someone who just died

And then you immediately have both wave clear AND anti elite on the same person

[glacial light]

Oh I am selfish lone wolf and always clear a heavy nest solo with one

[dusky solar]

XD

I like solo bug 9s on any planet that's not got the 30m visibility setup

[keen zinc]

I have learned of additional spots that the HMG can pen

I didn't know the rear of a tanks body has lower armor

[dusky solar]

Yep! Sides too, but idk if that's relevant to MG or only RR/EAT/Quasar

[keen zinc]

God I want to use it more, it has the stuff I want, but its sights and lack of crosshair are such an obstacle

[dusky solar]

Plasma punisher feels terrible compared to scorcher in pretty much all situations, idk why

Well that's not true it's the inter-shot reload rate

[keen zinc]

?

[dusky solar]

It feels like you have to wait forever between every shot i guess

[glacial light]

I am sort of close to scorcher and I'm excited for new anti bot gun

200 medals

[dusky solar]

Scorcher is extremely dope

I still prefer autocannon for bots but quasar + scorcher is very strong

There are a lot of bot weakspots where you can just zap them with a large hit like a quasar and then one-or-two tap them with the scorcher

[glacial light]

I've started trying out democracy protects armor since I heads praise about it over heavy blast resist over

[dusky solar]

Cannon towers are the main one

[glacial light]

With shield for overkill protection

[dusky solar]

Nice

I should get some democracy protects armor, especially if i'm running autocannon all the time

I started stealthing a lot of bot missions with jetpack AMR

[keen zinc]

I would love the champion of the people armor if it weren't for the ribbons on the chest

At least the helmet is swag

I've been using it and TR-117 Alpha Commander armor and felt pretty damn stronge

Switch for CE-Breaker for bugs

[glacial light]

Democracy protects seems better for bots with the amount of one shots bots have between rockets, cannon tower, and hulk bruiser

Heavy armor even with shield seems to be iffy sometimes at preventing one shots from direct cannon tower and hulk bruiser hits

[keen zinc]

Alpha Commander is medium medic armor so it's basically Omni useful

More and better stims is never not good

[glacial light]

I use light medic for bugs it's very great. I use stim armor less for bots cause stims don't matter against 1 shots

But on bugs since they usually don't instantly one shot in using stims like water

[keen zinc]

Well you see I dont use shields or heavy armor so if something is gonna kill me by Liberty it's gonna kill me

But medic armor lets me do brave shit

[heady halo]

champion of the people, extra vitality, either of the shields
lets fucking go

[glacial light]

You're just built different Amko

[junior badge]

I wonder if a rail pistol would be fun as a secondary.

Like, a railgun that can't be overcharged, but also doesn't take any slots.

Idle thought, I guess.

[kindred lintel]

we have that, its called the railgun /s

[junior badge]

That's stuck on unsafe, Calico, very different.

[kindred lintel]

what im trying to say is that the railgun is as useful as a sidearm

[keen zinc]

Worse, some would say

[stoic lotus]

jump pack for life

[keen zinc]

For life and death

Death and glory

[stoic lotus]

mostly death

[keen zinc]

Glory and victory

My life for super Earth

[junior badge]

Hm. I disagree. I still enjoy the railgun a lot, and do think it's properly positioned as a support.

[keen zinc]

If the railgun was gray instead of white I would use it

It clashes with my look

I'm not joking

[junior badge]

It probably needs a touch more AP again, but it's definitely not just a backup weapon like the secondaries.

[heady halo]

railgun pistol shotgun

chargeable, very short range, the charge increases spread without decreasing damage

[junior badge]

Ooo

Nice.

[heady halo]

so the ideal cycle is charge to clear a horde, and as a pistol you an charge while running

run, charge, turn and fire to get everyone off your back, rinse and repeat

downside is like, flamethrower range at best

[junior badge]

That's a cool secondary. Clear defined niche, still useful. Probably quite limited ammo, too.

Feels like it'd be an arc weapon in this game though.

But basically just sub charged lightning for the railgun.

[heady halo]

mm i could see that

god, the pistol railgun but its a helldiver powerfist. fully charged its as strong as a fully charged normal railgun. but. its a power fist

<@&1206091872716595200> anyone wanna dive in about 15-20 minutes from now?

i am sick so dont have much in me but I wanna put boots on tibbit

[glacial light]

Idk you're usually one of the folks in a squad that have lowest deaths so idk how you're doing it but you're surviving

[stoic lotus]

you're not dropping enough eagle strafes on his head

that should even it out

[junior badge]

I'll be home in 30 ish

[heady halo]

👍 see ya about then

[keen zinc]

I'll be around to play in 3 ish days

[glacial light]

Early on I used to be real bad about accidentals so maybe I'll channel my inner newbie

[heady halo]

the play is
-call down resupply
-surround it with turrets

[keen zinc]

I usually don't try to stay alive

[random socket]

out of like five missions last night the only one that didn't glitch me out and not give me any rewards was one where a guy managed to use 11 respawns on himself in about ten minutes

democracy innit

would've been less annoyed if he wasn't like level 30

one of them was just calling a 500kg on himself and all of the rest of us

[keen zinc]

Still struggling to pick a go-to support weapon

[random socket]

we just stopped respawning him

[stoic lotus]

I think it's fun to shake it up with the support weapons

[keen zinc]

I just need something to handle light vehicle armor

[junior badge]

Arc thrower?

[keen zinc]

Tempting but not great against Hulks since you can't aim for specific limbs

At least not easily

And it slows you down a lot

Great for bugs

[junior badge]

Ah, I didn't think of them as light vehicle armour.

But yeah, fair.

[keen zinc]

Hulks limbs and face are light vehicle armor

Strider shields, tank rear armor, etc

It's really just: I need a weapon for killing scout Striders and crippling Hulks

[junior badge]

Eats should fit well with your style.

[keen zinc]

Eh, great for Hulks and Tanks, less great for Striders

Striders really hurt me and my playstyle

[junior badge]

Otherwise... Theoretically, the HMG, once the sights improve.

Regular MG definitely does work on striders...

Railgun, perhaps?

EATs work fine on the striders, but it's a tad wasteful.

[keen zinc]

The HMG getting a third person crosshair will solve this problem for me

But ATM I'm going with AMR or Quasar

[junior badge]

I figured you'd find the Quasar too slow.

[heady halo]

for light armour? if you have a backslot, autocannon

if not yea prolly amr

quaser is like. best in class all rounder tbh

[junior badge]

Alternatively, you pick scorcher, dominator or punisher plasma and use those - with a stalwart or MG as your main gun.

[keen zinc]

Yeah I've thought about that

I wish the Stalwart had working hitmarkers

[junior badge]

He really likes his jetpack, so no AC in this case.

[glad marsh]

Autocannon :)

Always

[keen zinc]

I might go Scorcher + Stalwart

[junior badge]

It's a combo that I've found works pretty well

[keen zinc]

I love having an autocannon teammate so much

[junior badge]

Should support your incredibly aggressive playstyle pretty well.

[keen zinc]

It makes my heart sing

[glad marsh]

:D

Autocannon!

[keen zinc]

I can just be like "hit these fuckers" and then they all die

And I can maneuver freely

[stoic lotus]

yeah having autocannon backup is lovely

[glad marsh]

I always bring it on bot missions
Bugs get EATs though

[keen zinc]

I haven't fought bugs in a while...

[glad marsh]

Or an MG/stalwart if someone else (who is trustworthy enough to drop them in useful places and/or constantly) is bringing EATs

[heady halo]

actually yea thinking about it
i guess its
HMG for HORDES and also mediums on high rpm (gotta use it crouched or laying down for that tho an prefferably with the better aim armour)
MG for mediums specifically
AMR for heavies and also mediums

and QUASAR for EVERYTHIGN but you are limited by cooldown

[keen zinc]

No matter what I do, I always come back

Still hoping they give the stalwart hitmarkers

[stoic lotus]

is it on purpose that it doesn't have them

[keen zinc]

No it's probably a bug

Idk if it's even been reported though

Kinda minor but kinda annoying

Makes it difficult to know if you're on target

Would make it really good against Heavy Devs if you could get the hitmarkers

[cobalt patrol]

https://i.redd.it/8dmvl1n8rurc1.jpeg

A new player learning about Bile titans for the first time

[junior badge]

Alright, I'm ready 🙂

[heady halo]

gimme a couple minutes, ill log on
just waiting ona covid test too, joy of joys

[junior badge]

oof, 🤞

[glacial light]

Can't wait to get to the bug homeworld where the bile titans are just medium enemies

[oblique storm]

really cool shot tbh

[modest fiber]

ah my first reaction seeing them was like:

[junior badge]

we had a safe extract

it was flat after that

[modest fiber]

its the standard procedure

[graceful bluff]

Just preparing it for more farms

[keen zinc]

https://www.rxddit.com/r/Helldivers/s/aK0HUvA0ER

[oblique storm]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWXazVhlyxQ

[stoic lotus]

380s slap you just have to not stand remotely near them

[supple siren]

380s with the buff have been a delight for Bot missions

'fuck this heavy base, we're not doing this heavy base'

[keen zinc]

Me watching the 3 380s my team called on a heavy base paint a perfect cartoon outline around every target

[stoic lotus]

the guy on the super destroyer is playing pokemon go

[honest acorn]

After the buffs and with explosive shrapnel I’ve pretty rarely had a 380 fail to take a base out

Unless the marker was badly placed

[modest fiber]

meanwhile me in a team with everyone picking 380s: "its perfect"

[keen zinc]

Every mission with you is a suicide mission

I've come to accept that

Has Malevelon been taken yet?

[modest fiber]

well what can i say, i enjoy amping up the mission difficulty on a personal level. haven't looked at creek.. oh did we managed to do the major order?

[keen zinc]

Tibit? No.

We fehled the super earth

[stoic lotus]

toaster you are truly the most proficient helldiver I've ever seen when it comes to dispatching your own teammates

[modest fiber]

what can i say except you're welcome

[modest fiber]

awh sucks, we getting our C-01 permits taken away again

[keen zinc]

Funniest shit yesterday was three of us dying assaulting a mortar during an ion storm only to all get to see Toaster sitting on a hilltop watching from a distance

[modest fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/stephen-colbert-popcorn-3d-glasses-watching-eating-gif-17602628

[keen zinc]

[heady halo]

thanks for hte game yall

[keen zinc]

https://www.rxddit.com/r/Helldivers/s/rL7Npm96hL

I don't hate Creekers but I love the memes

[pale remnant]

lmao

[modest fiber]

life in super earth is great, unless you a helldiver

[modest fiber]

seems about right

[glacial light]

Next eradicate mission everyone has to bring a 380mm and stagger it so it's hell the entire mission

[modest fiber]

sounds like my kinda game, i usually always bring those

[honest acorn]

Sadly I think you can only have ~60% uptime

[keen zinc]

It has been done.

[pale remnant]

Throw in walking barrages for good measure

[honest acorn]

But it’ll probably always feel like there’s 1 happening

[modest fiber]

next morning Joel being like "i don't think so, defence mission time"

[keen zinc]

Now the Creekers can go to Pink Malevelon

Tibit

[idle hollow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1206817323860627476/1224410279022956564/image.png?ex=661d63ee&is=660aeeee&hm=bf81e8119966e9008ece348520dba9b2ddbdae3eae2d2f9770e056a9d7ee528b&

[keen zinc]

Tis a beautiful thing

[heady halo]

now creekers can just sit in orbit and never elave

incase imediete defense is needed

[oblique storm]

https://tenor.com/view/beautiful-whoa-lord-of-the-rings-gif-19620923

[keen zinc]

Ubanea is under attack

[stiff pine]

joel pls

[sinful bay]

It's the bots final assault.
After that who know what will come

Maybe himwill come

[turbid tapir]

Yo I met Him yesterday
A basic bot on a 5 diff mission was utterly unkillable

We called in a couple of airstrikes on the dude, didn't flinch

Barely escaped with our lives

[sinful bay]

I see Beep is making a name for itself

[glacial light]

I saw an invincible trooper and it just followed me around

I tried to offer it a hug but it wouldn't take it

The greatest betrayl

[keen zinc]

https://www.rxddit.com/r/Helldivers/s/YIA9WAJ5VU

[sinful bay]

Clem 2.0

Makes me want a model viewer or a Museum

[modest fiber]

we have done our part!

[idle hollow]

oh my god i forgot how trash defence missions are

[sinful bay]

spam sentries

ezz /j

[cobalt patrol]

for bot defence missions, EMS and 380 barrage

i';m not even kidding

[hexed steeple]

it’s not really about the tactics they’re just kinda boring imo

[cobalt patrol]

Oh, that i'll agree on.

It's why i prefer the oines where you run around the map and then do a small evacuate

those arwe a lot more fun imho

Eradciate and Defend are my least favourite types because they're so one note

and they dont play to the game's strengths

Must. COntiune. To resist. Tempatioon., To. Say. Skill. Issue. At. Peoples. Bad. Takes.

.>

[hexed steeple]

yea i love running around

it's like enrichment

[sinful bay]

https://tenor.com/view/dark-souls-skill-issue-gif-23859816

[hexed steeple]

and going beep bap tap tap on the puter

[sinful bay]

Wow
Did you knew that
The anti-material rifle is a

F TIER

Support Weapon??!!!111 /s

[honest acorn]

Yeah I like attacking fixed positions more than defending them

[graceful bluff]

Dropping a 380 at a your feet and let the chips fall where they may

[honest acorn]

And you're on defense all mission long for those

[cobalt patrol]

One of many reasons why i cant take dark souls seriously 😛

Also, that was damn funny

[sinful bay]

You wanna know the correct course of action in that situation? Rolling forward

[cobalt patrol]

Teammate: "I smell a bot."
runs foward, steps on landmine, dies
Me: No, that's a landmine.
Teamamte: "Damn. Nose mislead me again."

[sinful bay]

And a few frames after that

[cobalt patrol]

This is why you play mosnter hunter, which has much cleaner frame info >.>

[sinful bay]

Honestly every game has their frame 'logic' XP

[stoic lotus]

that's only dark souls 2

[sinful bay]

Less we forget hurt boxes

[stoic lotus]

ds2 has really jank animations

[sinful bay]

Or god forbid the huntsman headbox hurtbox

[cobalt patrol]

I've played em all. I do not agree. They are all incredibly jank at points. BUT wrong channel for this, and also, argument ih ave zero interest in actually having

[sinful bay]

HELLDIVER
Where the FUCK do you hit the Bot outpost with the Qsar Laser to make it blow away?
Sometimes I hit the vent iwth my autocannon but it somehow shoots the door

[cobalt patrol]

Bot outpost with Qusaur?

[sinful bay]

yes

[cobalt patrol]

Shoot the open red area of the vent.

For autocannon, you shoot the metal vent so the shot deflects off the vent and into the open red area.

(tbh, i dont run the quasar very much)

[sinful bay]

fair
And I been having fun with Quasar, trying to not auto-select the autocannon to not feel too repetitive
I love the AC but, you know

The HMG felt
Underwhelming

[cobalt patrol]

autocannon's such a great skeleton key into bots

and i just dont trust randos when i'm playing with them XD

Possibly part of why i can stomach playing with randos

[sinful bay]

I don't trust randos with FT and GL

[cobalt patrol]

if you assume they're going to fuck up, it's a lot simpler!

[sinful bay]

not a lie

[glacial light]

I can confirm you shoot directly into vent for bot fab

It does not ricochet like autocannon

[sinful bay]

fun!
I been having fun with the Quasar

[barren iron]

quasar is like the RR but better

I love it

it has the inherent downside of uh

not being an immediate shot though

which has made me want to return to the RR

[cobalt patrol]

I really like it's design, honestly.

It's got notable upsides and downsides

Just gonna pick this group up

and boddily carry them to victory.

I'm really impressed at player 3 with a 29% accuracy, something i have never actually seen before >.>

[stoic lotus]

I present to you my greatest carry (everyone else was higher level than me)

[cobalt patrol]

I have many questions.

[stoic lotus]

I got no clue

[wind arrow]

seems like creek got liberated

[copper crest]

"If I die, I die"

[wind arrow]

double checking

[cobalt patrol]

Creek got liberated

[cobalt patrol]

I have literally gone "Well, i'm fucked." dial in 380, drop at feet, smile at bots

[wind arrow]

ok yeah it got liberated, had to double check since it's apr 1 and i got it from twitch chat

[cobalt patrol]

"So you can all get fucked too"

[wind arrow]

lmao i've done "well i'm fucked, oh hey operation border, time for the ship to participate in the shelling"

[kindred lintel]

this regularly happens with the plasma punisher, since you need direct hits for it to count

[cobalt patrol]

Ahhh

...I'm pretty sure he wasnt running it tho'

These were just very bad players.

[undone veldt]

https://x.com/helldivers2/status/1774885526857773490?s=46&t=fIUfY3FiRXkmKVbIBdHHIw

HELLDIVERS™ 2 (@helldivers2) on X

As of approximately two hours ago, major combat operations in Malevelon Creek have ended. In the battle of Malevelon Creek, we are proud to announce, Super Earth and our allies have prevailed.

April 1st will forever be a day of victory and remembrance. Hold the line, Helldivers!

Twitter · Apr 1, 2024, 7:44 PM

[honest acorn]

winning the creek on April First is the best outcome lmfao

[hollow plover]

I am waiting for the otjer shoe to drop

[keen zinc]

https://www.rxddit.com/r/Helldivers/s/CHJPaVbADu

Uh

Y'all?

[stoic lotus]

[keen zinc]