Also i know people call it the "cock rock" but honestly the super sample rock looks like a chicken drumstick to me
#Helldivers 2: For Managed Democracy!
dusky solar
candid finch
Doesn't the arc thrower still cause crashes?
stone bridge
Nope, they fixed it last night
junior badge
There are still crashes throughout the game - one I get relatively often is when I see a grenade coming and spam E to throw it away.
civic apex
graceful bluff
Had it happen yesterday so probably with the new patch
was on diff 8, no regular super sample rock in level
civic apex
AVE DOMINUS NOX, SHITLORD! - Bricky
unkempt river
Bricky playing this game with VTubers was (is?) Golden if you have a chance to watch it (it's on his Episode 2 channel)
blissful sparrow
repeated loud shouts of "Zen, you whore" for entertainment
quick plinth
bricky fell off for me after he stopped doing league videos
orchid pulsar
<@&1206091872716595200> she managed my democracy til i liberty
stoic lotus
I can play in like an hour and a half
fallen tendon
omw, just finished the bot mission i crashed in yday
glacial light
So how do I not teamkill with arc thrower I think I might try it out next timd
I tried the blitz shotgun and I like it but wanting a stronger version and so arc thrower it is
stoic lotus
don't fire it while people are stood in front of you
glacial light
Is it really that shrimple
stoic lotus
yeah basically
blissful sparrow
well, also don't fire it while people are behind what you are shooting at
requires a bit of getting used to that enemies do not stop your attacks
forest crater
well, also don't fire it while people are behind what you are shooting at
Unless there's like a bajillion things between you and your teammate
graceful bluff
So how do I not teamkill with arc thrower I think I might try it out next timd
Ever watched Wanted? Do that
forest crater
Unless there's like a bajillion things between you and your teammate
Because the stars will have to align for you to accidentally strike a teammate with that many baddies in the way
quick plinth
honestly, im just frustrated whenever im playing randoms and there's this one bastard I've been trying to avoid zapping the entire match.
but by some cosmic comedy level shit they keep placing themselves between me and enemies
or behind enemies
graceful bluff
Also sometimes the arc thrower just wants someone dead so bad that the lightning uses enemies to do a U turn back at them
Always hilarious
quick plinth
and then when I inevitably do team kill them, they have the gall to bitch at me to stop using the arcthrower
saer, I've cleared entire breeches and patrols on my own, keeping them off your ass, please just fucking let me shoot at the bugs
graceful bluff
Cliffnotes is that it has a bit less than a 90 degree cone in front of it(75 maybe?), and so does every jump afterwards
||Tribarrel minigun my beloved||
quick plinth
||https://vxtwitter.com/Helldivers2HQ/status/1772746097800475007||
fake leak
graceful bluff
aw
hexed steeple
why's it a minigun. it's larger than most guns
quick plinth
its a killstreak from CoD iirc
graceful bluff
why's it a minigun. it's larger than most guns
Because it's smaller than stuff made by general electric
quick plinth
minigun is 7.62, micro is 55.6 and the parent to them both is like 30mm iirc
graceful bluff
||It's still such a cursed piece of knowledge that general electric the washing machine company makes rotary autocannons||
stoic lotus
that is an autocannon round next to a minigun round, for scale
so it actually is very mini
graceful bluff
Their MO is 'Speen to solve problems'
stoic lotus
general electric used to be an everything company
graceful bluff
They are an everything company even now
stoic lotus
that's why they are called general electric and not washing machine inc
blissful sparrow
tbh i would be very afraid of a Rotary cannon built by "Washing Machine Inc."
graceful bluff
I feel like any company with 7 distinct subsidiaries can be considered an everything company still
hexed steeple
tbh i would be very afraid of a Rotary cannon built by "Washing Machine Inc."
you're right, it could end up being a wash
glacial light
tbh i would be very afraid of a Rotary cannon built by "Washing Machine Inc."
The fastest dryer available
graceful bluff
You know how some rednecks like to strap bacon to rifle barrels? Strap your wet clothes to the barrel of a vulcan or gau-8
quick plinth
vulcan is 25 gau 8 is 30
iirc their uses are rather different
stoic lotus
me and the boys cooking eggs on the m249
quick plinth
former being more of a defensive weapon in the sense its commonly used on m163s and phalanx as well as CWIS
while the gau 8 was specifically made for the A-10 in an offensive role
graceful bluff
And the Gau-8 is the E-brake of the A-10
barren iron
and then when I inevitably do team kill them, they have the gall to bitch at me ...
nah see
I see people use this excuse all the time
you can do that with any other weapon too
forest crater
Reminds me of when Russianbadger mentioned that the gau 8 has enough recoil to prevent the A-10 from getting lift
graceful bluff
And people run infront of those weapons too
barren iron
the arcthrower requires less skill to use than a different crowd control weapon, at the cost of killing your teammates like 50% of the time
graceful bluff
but don't bitch when they get killed by that
barren iron
yeah because usually that's entirely their fault
and they know that
and also you can aim away from someone who's getting too close to your crosshair
or stop firing
graceful bluff
Running in front of the arc thrower that's been consistently shooting two bolts a second for the last 10+ seconds surely is not their fault
forest crater
the arcthrower requires less skill to use than a different crowd control weapon,...
requires less skill to use
No wonder I love it so much
graceful bluff
especially if it's from and angle where you can't see them until it's too late
barren iron
unfortunately sometimes you need to get infront of someone's fuckin, 180 degree frontal face
graceful bluff
it's 75 at best
forest crater
We are
graceful bluff
Arc thrower has a low skill floor but but a really high skill ceiling. When I have to deal with idiots like the ones atw is mentioning I just aim up a bit so less of the cone is touching the areas where I won't be able to react when they drunkenly stumble into
barren iron
it's less effective than using something else and kills teammates constantly
graceful bluff
I often go entire campaigns without a single teamkill
barren iron
sure
but I just see it as a huge downside
cant use it if an enemy is between you and a friend
forest crater
it's less effective than using something else and kills teammates constantly
Counterpoint. I can't aim precisely for shit and funny zappy sounds
barren iron
and cant use if someone has a closer range weapon (like the flamethrower)
or just, someone is infront of you for any other reason
graceful bluff
I often use it with people in front of me
you just have to make sure they're not in the cone
barren iron
until it decides it wants to zap to them anyway
graceful bluff
I often go entire campaigns without a single teamkill
^
barren iron
I have had the Arcthrower literally zap onto a bile titan, and then do a 90 degree zap to me and kill me
graceful bluff
U turn zaps are just funny though
forest crater
until it decides it wants to zap to them anyway
skill issue tbh
graceful bluff
because that's just the finger of god telling you to sit down
barren iron
you know what doesn't randomly kill teammates?
graceful bluff
Literally nothing in this game?
barren iron
oh yeah, all the other weapons
graceful bluff
Wait, aren't you the one that regularly runs the laser rover?
barren iron
nope
forest crater
All weapons are equally capable of randomly killing teammates
blissful sparrow
the nice thing about arc thrower is that you can just press the 1 key if you are currently close to allies and then press the 3 key when you spread out later
barren iron
I don't really like it
forest crater
Some more than others
graceful bluff
Either way, what was the ancient saying again
Don't hate the player hate the game
barren iron
okay but what I'm saying is the arcthrower just isn't good
like even as a weapon to kill people
teamkilling asside
graceful bluff
And as an arc thrower main that has done a bunch of labwork with it, my opinion is that it is good
graceful bluff
Just because a weapon has mechanics to learn doesn't mean it's bad
Not its fault some players refuse to learn it
barren iron
no as in it's literally just less effective than using a different weapon
I know how to use the arcthrower, it's just I can kill enemies way quicker with other options
machinegun, GL, RR, EATs
graceful bluff
Sounds like you don't then🤷♂️
Either way I'm never gonna convince you so not even gonna bother
hexed steeple
i think y'all need to take a step back from this conversation, it's getting circular and unnecessarily personal
hallow hornet
I'll echo this, especially complaining about teammates using the "unskilled weapon" or whatever is also just kinda weird, you aren't here to police how other people play the game
barren iron
I don't care if it has a low skill ceiling, my issue with it is that it's teamkill central
and when it's ruining the fun of others, yeah actually it's kind of a pain
hexed steeple
that wasn't an invitation to pick it up back come on
barren iron
Alright, I'm sorry
cobalt patrol
and then when I inevitably do team kill them, they have the gall to bitch at me ...
My approach is if i see that someone's b ringing arc thrower on bugs, as a flamethrwoer enjoyer , i do two things:
One, i slap on arc resist armor.
Two, i probably change away from the shield backpack.
Now i'm an extra target to extend the range of the arc thrower!
it's genius
forest crater
Now that I have the cutting edge armor too, I can do the same thing
graceful bluff
I love people bringing arc armor for that reason
forest crater
...even if it does result in me having less stims...
glacial light
You've become an accessory to the almighty arc thrower
graceful bluff
as cyan showed yesterday you can also survive surprisingly long in a tesla tower field
glacial light
What enemies are the arc thrower not good against
I see the destroy ads
And scout walkers
graceful bluff
they were using it to extend the tesla tower all over the place
forest crater
What enemies are the arc thrower not good against
In my experience, they're not too great against hulks and tanks
graceful bluff
~~ They totally didn't kill a person a minute doing this on a small map bug defense lmao~~
forest crater
The former mostly because it will blast you to pieces or burn you to a crisp before you can get more than a couple shocks in
Haven't actually tried against the tank
graceful bluff
Favourite moment in that session was still me standing infront of cyan going "Hey I don't think the arc shotgun actually damages people this patch, try it on me" after getting hit several times with it without taking damage
They instantly turn 180 and blast a pub thinking it was me
cobalt patrol
Hulks are werid vs arc thrower
Arc thrwoer can kill them, but it's not exactly the fastest
hwoever if you've got two or more arc throwers, then hulks tend to die very fast to sustain'd arcing.
graceful bluff
Yeah you gotta full charge vs chargers and hulks
alpine seal
ah
keen zinc
Bark
graceful bluff
Doing a full charge and then half charges does let you shoot faster but they're not full damage as previously thought
alpine seal
the difference between half and full charge on the arc thrower has always eluded me. then again there aren't any hard numbers written down anyway
good to know there is a distinct difference
graceful bluff
You feel it vs chargers
forest crater
Doing a full charge and then half charges does let you shoot faster but they're ...
Good to know
graceful bluff
and zerkers
forest crater
Y'know
I've heard that shotguns aren't exactly good against bots
But im my experience?
graceful bluff
they're great?
forest crater
Yeah
graceful bluff
dominator oneshots devestators
forest crater
Which is a godsend
cobalt patrol
Slugger is amazing into bots
and i waffle back and forth between Slugger and Scorcher as my beloved for them.
When you get the rythm and aiming down, it's amazing to just stand there and execute a squad of incoming beserkers like it aint no thing
forest crater
The less time the bots are able to spend shooting you, the better
cobalt patrol
Yeah, i stand by teh fact that Heavy Devs are the biggest danger in the bot forces
forest crater
Devs in general, really
cobalt patrol
Rocket devs are scary, but they arent "Flinched and then you're dead", and they dont have the multiplciatve danger of heavy devs
Eh, Ordinary devs are like working on games.
😛
graceful bluff
heavy devs is why I run devestator
stoic lotus
rocket devs are the only devs I am particularly afraid of
graceful bluff
being able to oneshot them to the head is so nice
forest crater
Eh, Ordinary devs are like working on games.
.-_.-
stoic lotus
heavies you can mostly still just shoot in the face
but they do pin you down pretty hard sometimes
cobalt patrol
Rocket devs are 90% solved by explosive resist armor
though sometimes you get the ol rocket to the feet, go airborne
and straight into the rocket that was flying over your head.
pale remnant
heavies get super scary if there's more than one of them
so much fire coming downrange from em
cobalt patrol
"The automatons are programmed for only two things: Violence, and hating freedom"
modest fiber
it's the homing bug projectile
cobalt patrol
"Next up: Are toilet stalls disdent hide outs?"
barren zephyr
"The automatons are programmed for only two things: Violence, and hating freedom...
The Automatons/Cyborgs in a nutshell (probably)
cobalt patrol
Eh, i dobut it.
barren zephyr
cobalt patrol
We frankly know very little about automatom coulture and what they want other than liberate the scyberstan slaves
which, you know
barren zephyr
The book in the question
cobalt patrol
is a good goal.
pale remnant
We frankly know very little about automatom coulture and what they want other th...
do you think automatons ever hold hands 😳
cobalt patrol
I mean, probably
i l,ike the theory that the reason they're kidnapping children is...
They're not shitheads. They dont want children in a warzone, so they're getting them out and safe.
unlike "every child over the age of seven" Super earth
We do know they like to sing!
barren zephyr
We frankly know very little about automatom coulture and what they want other th...
They are effectively creations of the Helldivers 1 Cyborgs, so pretty much similar to the Cyborgs except even more inhuman
and also more revanchism instilled to them by their maker parents
graceful bluff
I feel like they're less creations of the helldivers 1 cyborgs and more the next step/an offshoot
cobalt patrol
We've only really got SE propaganda to bo by? Thoguh i think canonicalkly they are created by the cyborgs to rescue said cyborgs
barren zephyr
their anthem probably is like this, a haunting rendition of "The Internationale" with industrial sounds
basically something that screamed "We are a bunch of transhumanist technocrat collectives"
glacial light
Should I get either the dominator or plasma scorcher? I saw it mentioned up above
I do hate devastators but have bad aim
graceful bluff
I'd try out both in a match first
dominator needs head clicking
(it has a laser pointer)
stoic lotus
scorcher
glacial light
Is scorcher a shotgun?
stoic lotus
no
honest acorn
Both weapons can engage devastators well
stoic lotus
it's like a rifle with a little AoE
glacial light
Is the AoE little enough to avoid hitting yourself with it
keen zinc
No
It's enough to kill scout walkers from the front tho
Big problem is it has no ammo
If you try to use it as a primary you will run out of ammo very fast
glacial light
Hmm that could be an assume as I am currently sickle pilled and consistently the player that gets the most shots fired in a match by a large margin
What's ammo economy
honest acorn
How much ammo does the scorcher get?
honest acorn
How much ammo does the scorcher get?
15 per, 6 reserve mags for 105 shots
Doesn’t seem bad at all
glacial light
Ok I'm going scorcher
I struggled with slugger even with bots cause I couldn't hit weakpoints well up close against berserkers so dominator seems like a no for me
I need volume of fire to compensate for lack of aim sickle my beloved
sinful bay
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5KOgaE3FG4
Love that
Another reason why Automatons are better than bugs
Fight me
glacial light
I agree bots seem to have a better design space variety than bugs
sinful bay
They will probably re-do the bugs sometime in the future
Also, yesterday I got an archivement the random dude was trying to get for weeks because he died in the last possible second from extraction
F
It was the... let a Hulk without his arms alive for the entire mission
glacial light
I had to intentionally get that cause everyone one shots hulks with stratagems or shoots the vents
sinful bay
They are scary
glacial light
The one I got naturally surprisingly was killing a charger with a resupply cause it was like level 4 and that was the only way to quickly kill chargers
Before stun grenades too so it was basically goading the charger into eats and resupplies
sinful bay
In my case, he got stuck between two non-destructible palm trees
keen zinc
Doesn’t seem bad at all
Try it
pale remnant
It was the... let a Hulk without his arms alive for the entire mission
that's a fun one, I helped my friend get it by leading one around the map for the 4 minute extract so it didn't get splashed by a stratagem
stoic lotus
It was the... let a Hulk without his arms alive for the entire mission
I thought it was just "extract while there's a hulk with no arms present"
pale remnant
it is just that, yeah
stoic lotus
because I got it by knocking the arms off one like 10 seconds before getting in the pelican
keen zinc
The Scorcher is probably better against bots
sinful bay
The stagger the shotgun does to bots is so satisfying too
Why yes I missed the big red glowing core of the murder bot with two chainsaws coming after me
BUT HE RECOILED SO NICELY
honest acorn
I struggled with slugger even with bots cause I couldn't hit weakpoints well up ...
Dominator doesn’t need weak points that much for devs
It’s hard hitting and punches through medium armor
sinful bay
Surprises me we don't have something stupid like a Dropkick
honest acorn
It’s also got slow traverse and little recoil
sinful bay
I have lol I just couldn’t remember the numbers
86222
honest acorn
Is that 
numpad notation 500 kilo?
sinful bay
Yes!
dusky solar
And as an arc thrower main that has done a bunch of labwork with it, my opinion ...
Necroing this post from 2 hours ago but arc thrower is broken and i hope they don't nerf it
Been running this (2x frontline 2x backline) with very minor variations, like
Different primaries
For bug 9s
sinful bay
Necroing this post from 2 hours ago but arc thrower is broken and i hope they do...
it goes in a straight line instead of doing an arc?
azure pewter
<@&1206091872716595200> dive divers diving?
sinful bay
"Broken" as in "way overpowered even on diff 9"
Good!
i don't know how people solo diff 9
I struggle at 6
dusky solar
Anyway that team comp is ridiculously good in all situations. The 2x RR looks like overkill until it's not
rotund marten
I can dive shortly, just playing some Neb
graceful bluff
Necroing this post from 2 hours ago but arc thrower is broken and i hope they do...
I feel like arcthrowers perfectly balanced cause people either call it trash garbage or most broken gun in the game
rotund marten
soloing diff 9 is a lot of running around
dusky solar
Good!
i don't know how people solo diff 9
I struggle at 6
Solo diff 9 is "copy takibo" https://youtu.be/HFeNI29XFEc?si=dPYgKBBUnhcDNbmj
rotund marten
I want to get back on arc throwing now it's fixed
sinful bay
Solo diff 9 is "copy takibo" https://youtu.be/HFeNI29XFEc?si=dPYgKBBUnhcDNbmj
Thank you! o7
dusky solar
Once you get the fast arc thrower shooting timing down it becomes way better
Yeah takibo is the GOAT, he's great b/c he clearly explains his plays and ideas nonstop
Very comfy voice too
dusky solar
I feel like arcthrowers perfectly balanced cause people either call it trash gar...
Infinite ammo, can solo breeches, can kill everything but bile titans? It's a do-everything gun, and if you have two of them your team can play difficulty 9s like they're 5s. I love it so much.
rotund marten
I haven't done a lot of 9 in groups lately, mostly just solo, so I'm looking forward to getting back on the helldiving grind
I do want to try just meming with quad arc
dusky solar
Group 9s are ridiculous fun when you're just out to have a murder fest
honest acorn
Infinite ammo, can solo breeches, can kill everything but bile titans? It's a do...
It can kill bile titans too it’s just slow
keen zinc
Shock trooper
dusky solar
It can kill bile titans too it’s just slow
50 shots indeed
rotund marten
if you have multiple arcs then you can actually chunk biles pretty fast
you need to get the redcoat firing line going
dusky solar
RR is so much more efficient
honest acorn
It’s mostly just useful when a 500 kilo lands .5 inches too far away and doesn’t kill one
dusky solar
And keeps you from having to kite
honest acorn
Or similar
keen zinc
I do love getting into dangerous situations
dusky solar
Anything you can do to make arc throwers not get interrupted by terrain is great
keen zinc
My MO is aggression and terrain exploitation maneuvers
dusky solar
Personally i like to be the front line, so i run shield pack
dusky solar
Yeah being on ledges vs bugs is great
sinful bay
Are you a spy main by any means /j
dusky solar
Sure they can tunnel or climb or jump but not all of them can
rotund marten
I like laser backpack and arc thrower w/ stun nades, but then you need strats to kill holes so you have to stay with the gang
dusky solar
Yeah that's why we run impacts on everyone
2x arcthrower shield, 2x recoilless, everyone brings orbital rail, and then whatever else
keen zinc
Are you a spy main by any means /j
Demoman
dusky solar
I reallllllly like mech in my last slot
rotund marten
I'm not a giant recoilless fan but yeah, that's very reasonable
sinful bay
I main engi nad heavy
And I like to bring two sentries to the front :3
rotund marten
impacts are just the shit
dusky solar
If someone dies, you can chuck a mech way behind you and then spawn a reinforcement, and IMMEDIATELY get someone with both horde clear and anti heavy power
rotund marten
I think one stun in the party is pretty decent for holding OH SHIT moments
keen zinc
ATTACKA
dusky solar
I think one stun in the party is pretty decent for holding OH SHIT moments
Yeah, one of the RRs likes to bring stuns and she's a great player who contributed a lot to the team design
sinful bay
Maybe one day we will be able to safely rocket jump
rotund marten
my personal addiction is either grenade launcher, orbital laser or both
craggy lagoon
My fav loadout VS bots is machine pistol, incendiary breaker, and grenade launcher with ammo backpack
sinful bay
atm i am having a honeymoon phase with the Autocannon
dusky solar
If GL wasn't outclassed by arc thrower i would use it wayyyyy more
rotund marten
roaming GL is a bit harder to pull off on 9 since you can't just freely dive any nest, but if you combine it with something like 120s you can hit and run basically anything to death
craggy lagoon
Unleash freedom indiscriminately
dusky solar
Yeah, gl jetpack vs bugs is crazy good
rotund marten
the big perk of GL is that it kills bug holes and has god's own ammo cap
honest acorn
I like having stuns on the team with me but it’s very hard for me to put back the incendiary grenades
dusky solar
Hilariously for a team with so much tk potential, we all hate fire weapons
dusky solar
So often they turn hunters from annoying jumpers that crit you to annoying jumpers that crit you and set you on fire
And napalm doesn't kill stuff that comes out of a breech fast enough
dusky solar
For running strats?
Like throw gas, run to objective? And everything that was chasing dies to the DOT?
craggy lagoon
That works but it's better VS things crawling out of a breach than things actively chasing
So yea is you run to obj and get seen, you can throw them on top of the breach and keep running
dusky solar
Hm. Maybe we'll have to try that again in place of cluster bombs
craggy lagoon
It is very hard to see for allies though so prepare for some mustards gas friendly fire
dusky solar
It might also just be a good "free space" option
But uuuuuuusually we all save the free space for a breakdown solution
Like "2+ people are dead and there is a large swarm, i need an option for this"
(The answer is always a mech imo but the rest of the team has yet to experience my genius in action)
oblique lotus
I'm clusterpilled
dusky solar
Yeah, the RRs carry clusters 100% of the time for that reason XD
oblique lotus
you get five callins and it turns anything that isn't armored into a soup like homogenate
dusky solar
Mostly they help if we get a patrol behind us
B/c two arc throwers can kill anything from the front. Also 2 RRs is great vs shrieker nests if you don't trigger them to spawn
My guess is that flamethrower will become meta on difficulty 12+
Because enemy density can increase quite a bit more before 2x RR and 2x arc thrower stops being able to keep up
But flamethrower power scales with enemy density
So the more you scale up enemy density the better it gets
craggy lagoon
So does grenade launcher
dusky solar
Yes, GL is excellent. Outclassed by arc thrower but my 2nd fave
Jetpack GL is an all time loadout xD
honest acorn
I’ve actually never been lit on fire by burning incendiary grenade bugs
Happens a lot with the flamethrower but not it
sinful bay
Flamethrower against bun is v fun
blissful sparrow
poor bnnuy 😔
sinful bay
I MEANT BUG* FUCC
blissful sparrow
its fine, its Easter soon, so time for a good bunny
sinful bay
Devs should put bunny ears on the bots and bugs for easter
quick plinth
I've tried a loadout recently
the supply backpack with stalwart and whatever 2 offensive stratagems (in this case railcannon and 500)
They really gotta give the stalwart the hitmarkers because man that's a cool loadout
absolutely rips on bugs
and the support backpack is nice not only because you'll never run out of ammo but because you can give others ammo as well as essentially duping supply bricks
sinful bay
The only reason I don't use the support backpack anymore is because of the autocannon 
heady halo
<@&1206091872716595200> anyone down to dive?
quartz cloak
o/
orchid pulsar
just got off but hell (pun intended?)yeah
honest acorn
<@&1206091872716595200> anyone down to dive?
I can do a mission or two if there’s still slots
quartz cloak
I can do a mission or two if there’s still slots
There is, and we're doing diff 7 so we'll take the extra
cobalt patrol
Is the AoE little enough to avoid hitting yourself with it
I have headshot myself with the Scorcher and also died to shooting a rocket Devastator... Rocket at point blank with it
heady halo
I can do a mission or two if there’s still slots
sorry you got pipped by shahk
cobalt patrol
Also interesting stuff:
https://old.reddit.com/r/Helldivers/comments/1bol1fu/moar_science_a_bullet_in_the_knee_update/
honest acorn
:/
hallow gorge
Bullet tests shouldn't be used. There are so many stats of guns we just don't know
There could be a hidden friendly fire damage stat
hallow gorge
Testing should just be done with scavenger bugs
Although yeah I guess servo assisted doesn't add health like vitality 😦
heady halo
@orchid pulsar @faint parcel @quartz cloak we may need to use ingame chat
orchid pulsar
ohno
quartz cloak
Activity 2 works for some reason
glacial light
Also interesting stuff:
https://old.reddit.com/r/Helldivers/comments/1bol1fu/mo...
If vitality helps me survive friendly fire a little more I might just bring it if no one brings the stamina one
I am stuck at work when I should be hell diving
rotund marten
I will tag in to start second helldive squad shortly
I am just going back and forth trying to cancel a subscription to some random newspaper I only wanted five articles from
keen zinc
Vitality and medium seems like best compromise for armors
glacial light
I'm at either extremes, heavy or light. Medium is like a half measure I never got used to
I want the tankiest heavy armor for bots like the explosive resist heavy to laugh at rocket devs, or the light stim armor to run forever against bugs
Either way I'm likely running shields
rotund marten
I've become a big fan of the extra nades light armour for bugs and the blast resist light armour for bots
keen zinc
I want the tankiest heavy armor for bots like the explosive resist heavy to laug...
Well according to that test above, heavy does not do noticeably more than medium
But medium is noticeably better than light
glacial light
Explosive resist does seem to make a difference between heavy and medium, it usually let's you survive an extra rocket
I think it's cause the explosive resist is calculated first then the armor is applied
keen zinc
That white medium heavy armor might do
glacial light
So in regards to specifically that one armor it's noticeable, not huge but I like tanking rockets
keen zinc
Alas I am addicted to looking cool as fuck
oblique storm
I've become a big fan of the extra nades light armour for bugs and the blast res...
There's blast resist light armor????
Where
glacial light
RIP I wish I could fashion but I am survival pilled, over a dozen lives per mission and I want to be the least
rotund marten
superstore
oblique storm
Damn
glacial light
There was blast light resist? Whoa
oblique storm
Ain't getting it then 
oblique storm
All my super credits go into warbonds
rotund marten
I will also say that the taser resist armours all look quite sleek, I just want to run the all Arc gang so we can all dress like James T Halo
glad marsh
Oh
Does arc stuff still mess up the game?
glacial light
All my SC goes into armor and their matching helmet if it's ugly without, I end up buying SC for warbonds so it's a poor financial choice
junior badge
Oh
Does arc stuff still mess up the game?
No, it's fixed
forest crater
I need volume of fire to compensate for lack of aim sickle my beloved
Hence why I used punisher for a while. Doesn't need to much reliability on aim, AND it staggers!
forest crater
The one I got naturally surprisingly was killing a charger with a resupply cause...
I got that one because a charger decided to just. Not move. And I took the chance to smite it with supplies.
glacial light
Punisher is a bit too slow for me cause I have bad trigger discipline and usually miss the first shot when wait awkwardly for the next while being chased
Sickle turns my bad aim into a hold and click on heads game, it's like Joel watched me play poorly with breaker and said we need to give them poor girl a better gun
If Scythe was on par it'd probably use it as my main
glacial light
That's pretty sick
Unfortunately my favorite fashion is the light throw armor which messes up my muscle memory for regular armor
keen zinc
I can't get away from this armor it just fits my "stuck in attack position" style
stoic lotus
there goes amko with his handy shoulder pouches and semtex strapped to his chest
glacial light
Where's my heavy armor with ERA for best protection
I want to explode twice as much
keen zinc
there goes amko with his handy shoulder pouches and semtex strapped to his chest
My precious shoulder pouches
It's where I keep my super snack bread
stoic lotus
tasty
blissful sparrow
Where's my heavy armor with ERA for best protection
i want ERA on the Tank when they introduce it, and watch a helldiver standing next to me turn into paste as he gets sandwiches by shockwaves
keen zinc
I like to imagine they're IFAKs, and it has two in case an arm gets blown off
And they're on the arms because legs get blown off more
sinful bay
Where's my heavy armor with ERA for best protection
Dive forward and explode everything around you
glacial light
i want ERA on the Tank when they introduce it, and watch a helldiver standing ne...
ERA on the sides of the APC, protects the driver really well at the cost of everyone else in the vehicle
forest crater
I wish we could make custom armors with mixed perks
I.e something like additional armor and more stims
Or better throwing and arc resist
Even if the standalone perks would be reduced to compensate for the other being added
glacial light
I know the devs know what their doing and assuming they're trying to minimize choice customization bloat and have every single decision be fairly meaningful and impactful to playstyle if it's not cosmetic but the crpg pilled gamer in me wantd a million and one minor customization options
Although weapon attachments in HD1 does seem sick I hope they add thay
forest crater
Yeah I just want additional stims and explosion resist for fighting bots
sinful bay
Yeah like
I understand 100% why they don't want a "vanity slot" for armor
but at the same time
I want it
forest crater
The only reason I want a vanity slot is for the steeled veteran armors
glacial light
Why don't they want like a transmog?
forest crater
The bionic limbs are kewl
glacial light
It's a PvE game it's not like bots or bugs will be deceived by your cosmeticd
sinful bay
Player recognizion, if you see someone using the hellblazer armor you konw they want to be (in theory) stealthy
quick plinth
I know the devs know what their doing and assuming they're trying to minimize ch...
have you played path of exile
quick plinth
makes sense
sinful bay
But at the same time
Let me have a vanity slot plz
I have armor that I love the drip but the stats SUKS*
SUKS= Not for me
quick plinth
yeah well
glacial light
There's like 2 dozen armors and I could not tell you which are which except for like 3 very distinct ones
quick plinth
idk I dont have a convincing argument against transmong other than if you see someone lookin like arc armor and they still get zapped, that'd suck
sinful bay
NO
Not transmog
Vanity slot<<
Transmog... costs resourcers ...
glacial light
Solve transmog with more cosmestics, arc armor always had arcing electricity effect despite the armor appearance
It's aesthetics all the way down
sinful bay
And is not like armor has a 'logical perk' on it's appearance
like,
the Juggernaut armor has grenade launcher ammo around it
but it gives more limb health
glacial light
It's likely very too late for them to implement them but my ideal function and form armor system is to have a base cosmetic armor that's like your traditional armor but the perks have a separate minor but distinct visual element like grenade perk would have a grenade belt, stim would have medpacks, throw would have mechanical throwing exoskeleton on arm, etc
sinful bay
Yeah that would be cool
sinful bay
like,
the Juggernaut armor has grenade launcher ammo around it
but it gives mor...
Tho I would at least agree that, for example
"If your perk base is from a light armor, you can only use a light armor visual on top of it"
forest crater
That makes sense
sinful bay
Otherwise you would have fat fuck over here running at march 5 and it would look weird.
forest crater
I wanna use the Physician armor with the first arc resist armor
...
As in the arc resist armor is the vanity
sinful bay
no perks are only for specific armor types tho
Yes but the stats would come with the perks
glacial light
Dual half perk armors would be fun
Like 2 perks both of which are at half their regular effectiveness
If I could have like a 25% explosive resist with +1 stim that'd be amazing
forest crater
Yeah that makes sense
sinful bay
Makes sense
But I think they want to avoid that , it would make future perks hard to balance
forest crater
Either that or the mix n' match I mentioned earlier
glacial light
Yea that's fair, more customization leads to exponentially more difficulty balancing
Like Warframe
Even Destiny 2
sinful bay
I stopped playing when the void cards arrived
That became an grinding rabbit hole that made me go "ok stop, no."
glacial light
AH is a relatively small company for how successful the game is and its scope
sinful bay
agreed
candid finch
BEHOLD. MAGIC
sinful bay
'accuracy: 0'
aaah I see you did the 'stratagem only' run
honest acorn
Scythe or Blitzer :p
candid finch
Full laser build
honest acorn
love those
forest crater
Can't wait for the full flame build
honest acorn
I really like all the laser weapons except the Dagger
forest crater
Since flamethrower doesn't count in shots fired
quick plinth
Cyan how
honest acorn
Which isn't bad but is extremely... beige
quick plinth
they feel so bad to me
like unusuable bad compared to the absolute viceral and immediate impact of other weapons
candid finch
I need a laser turret to completed the full build.
honest acorn
I don't really like the Scythe vs bots since its hard to consistently hit the weakspots but it has very good damage with aiming for the right points
sinful bay
Because the Mortal Turrent needs a challenger for most Friendly fire?
Or I am just clumsy because friendly dog lasers kills me sometimes
honest acorn
And it feels real good to me to snip off legs and such for bugs
honest acorn
I need a laser turret to completed the full build.
hexed steeple
lmao
alpine seal
a laser turret sounds about as dangerous as the gatling turret currently is, though unlimited ammo makes it a permanent stage hazard so it has that beat
forest crater
Or I am just clumsy because friendly dog lasers kills me sometimes
I get killed by my own rover more than by other's
alpine seal
and the rover is perfectly head height so snips off the head very frequently. bigger turret implies higher beam so probably the same level of danger without headshots though
"mortal turret" is an excellent descriptor though
sinful bay
I meant to say Mortar whoops
honest acorn
mortal turret is great
alpine seal
accurate
honest acorn
I recently went back to the starter armor and I really can't overstate how surprised I was for how good it is
medium armor speed with enough survivability to walk off a lot of bullets and 1.5 rockets
quick plinth
a shotgun turret that's just a full auto 6.2 gauge shotgun
a rotary shotgun turret, yes
keen zinc
Man it's crazy to look at HD2 and then be like hm I wonder how Total War Warhammer and Darktide are doing since I played mid-late last year
And it's: nothing
A puff of dust out of an empty pocket
Boggles the mind
sinful bay
Ur wrong
for a time enemies stopped spawning in Darktide XD
So it literally became a walk in the park
keen zinc
Ur wrong
for a time enemies stopped spawning in Darktide XD
NAY, WORSE THAN NOTHING, THE IMPERIAL MACHINE ENFORCES THE WILL OF THE THALMOR, AGAINST ITS OWN PEOPLE
sinful bay
https://tenor.com/view/blinking-eyes-white-guy-blinking-meme-what-huh-gif-263343...
https://youtu.be/HGFr6wRKhmo?t=41 it has been fixed but, here
keen zinc
What a circus
candid finch
Oh oh, heat seeking mines
they go after the nearest source of heat scuttling along the ground like crabs, and will chase you down
blissful sparrow
grenades that are lil spider mines that you release that seek an enemy
keen zinc
Snarks
glacial light
Aw that sounds cute and carcinizationgenic
keen zinc
candid finch
Grenades that are just rolypoly bugs that you roll along then they pop out and home in
candid finch
Basically, I need little friends that I'm going to be sad as fuck when they explode
get me a little drone I can pilot off into the distance and detonate
keen zinc
Basically, I need little friends that I'm going to be sad as fuck when they expl...
Snarks
What you want is snarks
candid finch
yes, but if we cannot ahve snarks directly, I will accept little drone
candid finch
squishy friends that will be cheerful sent to their massive explosions
500kg bomb buddy
quick plinth
glacial light
Automatons developing a trophy system and we all cry with our lack of effective explosives
shy prairie
I think it's a little sad the only place I can find this information (after like, an admittedly cursory search) is in videos. It's not written down anywhere (beyond like, the basic obvious stats)
quick plinth
granted this info is acquired by them through testing and written neatly for us
candid finch
Because of the bouncy ground around the detector tower my hellbomb summon bounced around the side...
quick plinth
yeah I've given up on using hellbombs for those, just throw a 500 or a laser (directly at it)
candid finch
And I had to watch as the randos I was playing with ran up, stepped around the corner and looked at the armed hellbomb they couldn't see
undone veldt
Are Arc weapons usable again yet?
honest acorn
Yes
undone veldt
Nice
junior badge
The blitzer still feels a bit slow.
It's great, but given that it fails to kill striders, and stuns devs not quite long enough to shoot another time, it gets overwhelmed real fast.
So I still wish it fired just a little bit faster.
glacial light
I tried the blitz against bugs and had a bad time
Granted I had no rover so that's probably why
forest crater
they go after the nearest source of heat scuttling along the ground like crabs, ...
So just. Engineer Risk of Rain alt secondary?
I think it was secondary...might be utility...
glacial light
What if they could move and just yeeted themselves at you when close
azure pewter
So just. Engineer Risk of Rain alt secondary?
Harpoons?
forest crater
No, the little mines he can place
royal lantern
Just starting out and I'm curious, what's everyone's preferences for primary, secondary, and grenades? Not meta, just what feels good
forest crater
If can afford it already, I use Sickle for bugs, punisher for bots
If not, punisher is decent for both(and it unlocks super easy too)
Secondary, I've just been using Redeemer because I don't have the senator unlocked yet
And impact grenades because...yeah
azure pewter
Ngl I love the default liberator, secondary basically always senny
alpine seal
on bugs, shotgun of any sort (breaker variants, punisher, slugger), any secondary really, impact because i want bile spewers gone
for bots, semiauto gun like diligence, dominator, scorcher, slugger, secondary senator, stun
forest crater
I love the punisher/slugger because you can give the bots a taste of their own medicine and stun them to hell and back
Er
Stagger
azure pewter
Knight is fun but blows through ammo and isn’t available to all, breaker s+p is my fav for munching big groups of lil guys
alpine seal
my biggest love for the slugger is being the only primary that can break crates
the dominator can't and that's a scam
pale remnant
knight really does devour ammo, kicks really hard, too
forest crater
Knight..?
pale remnant
space p90, super citizen edition weapon
forest crater
Ah
No wonder I don't have it
I should probably get the super citizen edition....
oblique lotus
fires at an astonishing rate of fire
forest crater
I think my cousin can benefit from it too
Yeah...
Next time I go to a store I'll see if I can't get a gift card...
glacial light
What feels good is Sickle, senator (I am not good with it but it feels cool to have), light stim(bugs) or heavy explosive resist(bots)
If blitz or scythe felt better I'd love those
forest crater
If there was an arc secondary and Blitzer got a speed buff I'd 100% run a full arc build a ton
glacial light
I think assuming they were on equal levels I'd enjoy blitz shotgun mechanic more than scythe's I don't even care about the infinite ammo
Honestly I rarely ran out of ammo post shotgun buff aside from rare situations so like infinite ammo isn't a huge selling point for me
I barely burn through 2 mags the entire mission with sickle
alpine seal
the blitzer feels like a primary not meant to be primary. pairs well with a fast support weapon like the stalwart or laser cannon
i do agree that infinite ammo is not that much of a selling point excepting support weapons
forest crater
I think assuming they were on equal levels I'd enjoy blitz shotgun mechanic more...
Yeah the Blitzer is cool in concept by a ton
forest crater
I barely burn through 2 mags the entire mission with sickle
Same, but sometimes I can burn up to 4 at a time
oblique lotus
blitzer - senator -blitzer lets you deal with bigger threats while clearing chaff
forest crater
Yeah I read about that
The time it takes to fire a senator right after switching to it is just enough for the Blitzer to reload
honest acorn
I just reposition while it recharges
Unless there’s something which really needs a senator shot
undone veldt
So I feel in a lake and like, I can’t die
But I also can’t do anything
I’m just stuck spectating my team and can’t do anything
honest acorn
Lmfao
kindred lintel
Known bug with vitality booster
undone veldt
My team just ran past me when I did and aren’t coming back
So I’m just stuck like this now
sinful bay
Cook a grenade and let it explode on your hand
blissful sparrow
yeah, your team needed to put you down
glacial light
I like to imagine rather than let Helldivers stim themselves on full HP they'd would give helldivers a personal training injury simulator to hurt themselves so they can stim themselves
But also that'd be a great "I'm stuck" solution
undone veldt
Cook a grenade and let it explode on your hand
I couldnt do anything
sinful bay
sad
quick plinth
The blitzer still feels a bit slow.
against bots arc weapons i've found lacking in general, but when it comes to bugs it is an excellent self defence weapon since it can one hit hunters and requires a lot less aiming than other weapons (nimble fkn bugs)
I'll agree it's slow on the firerate but overall I've found it pairs nicely as a personal space defender rather than a primary to clear a lodda bugs with (which it can do but worse than other primaries)
so its relegated to loadouts where one takes support weapons which already clear a lot of bugs (and perhaps the laser dog) while still needing something for self defence
and I've found it just doesn't work for bots at all
honest acorn
I've been pretty impressed with the Blitzer post patch
stoic lotus
best reindeer
honest acorn
It's annoying vs bots though since it doesn't engage heavy devastators or scout walkers that well
oblique lotus
the injury simulator surprised me because I fully expected a gunshot
glacial light
Same
I expected like a bullet to the leg
I am almost freedom from the work and into my real job, helldiving
undone veldt
You think for bots you can just put a mortar sentry outside of their outpost and it’ll eventually handle it (if it’s not blown up anyway)
glacial light
glacial light
You think for bots you can just put a mortar sentry outside of their outpost and...
I've tried a few times but the mortar runs out of ammo hitting enemies that have moved from their position before hitting the fabs
shy prairie
hmm when i used a mortar earlier today all it did was target fabs
undone veldt
I've tried a few times but the mortar runs out of ammo hitting enemies that have...
Ah that makes sense
At least it’s good for softening them up at least
shy prairie
according to a mortar video it needs LoS to target a fab?
glacial light
I do not use mortar more than like a dozen times
So I have little experience
With it
undone veldt
according to a mortar video it needs LoS to target a fab?
Oh I didn’t know
I just assumed it could target above walls
honest acorn
https://www.rxddit.com/r/Helldivers/s/0w9Cf8LbJp
what the heck is the "orange shotgun"?
Incendiary breaker?
glacial light
Yes
shy prairie
it can do that for like, regular enemies i'm like 99% sure, apparently not fabs though
glacial light
I don't believe it needs LoS as I've seen it fire at enemies while on top of a hill with no direct LoS to the enemies below
Enemies tend to be near fabs so it probably hits them by accident
craggy lagoon
Mortar is really bad VS fabs as it just lands on top and does nothing
quick plinth
glacial light
2 players is 50% of the team and that'd a failing grade, do better
alpine seal
thats not fair i use the ballistic shield sometimes
heady halo
i want a melee one handed primary i can pair with the ballistic shield
or secondary
i dont know how the ballistic shield works lll
oak crow
anything one handed works with it
so, all the secondaries + the SMG
its honestly not a bad pick against bots. just rough when you get hit by a rocket and go flying, dropping the damn thing.
quartz cloak
Yeah, it does help when charging down fortified positions, and the Defender SMG is good enough to warrant using it as a primary
strange vine
the seaf sam site doesnt always work but seeing it literally blow a dropship in half is amazing
cobalt patrol
We had a great and funnny moment yesterday where @stiff pine gave their life by shooting down a dropship.... which landed ontop of them.
undone veldt
<@&1206091872716595200> The bots have spread their communist tyranny for far to long, will you answer the call and spill oil?
keen zinc
Hour and a half
stone bridge
The defender is one of the best primaries, it's great
burnt vapor
Yeah it’s very solid against bots
candid finch
We had a great and funnny moment yesterday where <@292989751303077888> gave thei...
Inversely earlier I had an experience where my teammate shot down the drop shit right above us and killed three of us as it crashed down
undone veldt
So I really hate the ballistic shield
The fact you drop it when you ragdoll makes it so much worse then it should be
glacial light
Please arrowhead invent an armstrap for the ballistic shield
honest acorn
Yeah it wouldn’t be so bad if there weren’t so many unexpected ragdolls
cobalt patrol
Als o the fact it breaks to stuff
it really does fel like worse energy shield backpack, whichi s frustrating
sinful bay
So I grabbed the funny arc
Tips?
kindred lintel
Make sure nobody is beyond the thing youre shooting at
tall nova
It prioritizes enemies over allies so feel free to fire it next to friends! ||this is a lie dont do that||
sinful bay
Should I grab the Tesla Tower for maximum funny?
as i heard is a legit better mine field
glacial light
It prioritizes enemies over allies so feel free to fire it next to friends! ||th...
I did it and it hit a 5th helldiver in my squad named Joel and now I hear bugs chittering and binary?
candid finch
Tesla tower is good, I wouldn't say better, as the tesla tower can be destroyed pretty easy
glacial light
Tesla towers are charger magnets
candid finch
it just takes one charger with jerkass syndrome to headbutt it to death
But it is still really useful and cool
glacial light
The moment I decide to drop a Tesla tower a charger spawns
candid finch
Arc thrower is super cool, it has more range than you think. Aim a bit higher than you think when using it. if there is an ally in front of you on the screen, DO NOT FIRE IT
it has infinite ammo so it's better to waste a shot behind you than kill your buddy
sinful bay
Will keep in mind
glacial light
It's a machine that turns left mouse button clicks into dead everything
kindred lintel
I still want to try a 4 stack full arc time
cobalt patrol
I still want to try a 4 stack full arc time
Same here
candid finch
It would be super funny
candid finch
Full tesla tower and arc thrower build and just explode
"hmm, tickles" the entire team of mad people
kindred lintel
arc blitzer too
candid finch
Ah yes
kindred lintel
for good measure
candid finch
Does the arc blitzer link?
winged patio
"hmm, tickles" the entire team of mad people
As long as everyone's got the new armor, it should be fine, tbh
alpine seal
some more formative tips
arc thrower is fantastic vs. bugs and decent vs. bots. if there's nothing in range you'll fire but no arc comes out. you have to charge the first shot but the gun can be fired past roughly half charge every time after, it's like warming the gun up, but it deals proportionally less damage in turn
the arcs do not care about armor, any enemy will take the same amount of damage. mops up grunts, kills bile spewers in 3 shots, kills scout striders in 1
big targets like chargers and hulks will die... eventually
winged patio
Hell, 5-9 shots can bring down a tank, from what I've seen.
daring monolith
6-8 shots for chargers, about the same for hulks, struggles vs bile titans but its doable
Half-charged shots do less damage so its better to full charge vs big targets
gusty heron
<@&1206091872716595200> Anyone up for a 5, 6, or 7 level bot hunt?
glacial light
Me
heady halo
So I grabbed the funny arc
Tips?
you want to be either shooting down at enemies or shooting slightly above them unless its a big horde
it has a little problem with missing individual enemies you are aiming directly at
you also want to be ahead of everyone else, so pair with other speed/close range stuff
if you are playing with friends, all electric with the electric resist armour is INCREADIBLE
honest acorn
<@&1206091872716595200> Anyone up for a 5, 6, or 7 level bot hunt?
Yee
heady halo
you want to be either shooting down at enemies or shooting slightly above them u...
pairs well with jetpack and extra stim light armour
honest acorn
<@&1206091872716595200> Anyone up for a 5, 6, or 7 level bot hunt?
Where should I meet you for VC?
gusty heron
Let's do #actiivity 2
honest acorn
Sounds good
granite rivet
lmao
civic apex
So how do I not teamkill with arc thrower I think I might try it out next timd
face away from your teammates, make sure they arent in front of you
or near the enemies your shooting
sometimes it may just randomly arch towards your friends tho
dusky solar
So I grabbed the funny arc
Tips?
It's the best weapon vs bugs, mid vs bots. Once you fully charge it once, you only have to like half charge it for follow up shots until you drop the chain
honest acorn
75 medals away from the scorcher...
stone bridge
I wouldn't say it's the best weapon against bugs but it's good
unreal merlin
Scorcher is okay vs bugs, imo its best use is popping scavengers and hunters quickly. However it has a cool side role of devastating spewers with ~4 shots to the abdomen.
Vs bots the scorcher is a godsend. Excellent choice weapon.
keen zinc
It kills hive guards too
But bugs present so much target that you run low on ammo fast
unreal merlin
Yeah it works against hive guards but I classify hive guard and brood commanders as lower priority targets for the scorcher than managing the swarm of hunters
If you're accurate you can kill them in 1-2 shots, pick your targets well to eliminate flankers before they become a problem.
undone veldt
So after a good amount of time messing around with helldive difficulty bots
I think bots are easier in general then bugs but god bot eradications are so much harder
If you’re stuck in a compact area with them it really does feel impossible to deal with them
glacial light
I did my first diff 7 bit eradicate with no hill bunkering cheese strat
undone veldt
What’s that?
glacial light
Everyone was out in the open and only one person died and that was me due to drowning
honest acorn
That went... surprisingly smoothly
I think 4 red strats might be a good thing for at least 1 person to bring haha
glacial light
I bought 4 reds that was all ad clear
Gatling barrage, airburst, cluster, and one more I forgot
I bought those cause I was expecting to die so no turrets or supports and wanted low cooldown stratagems to drop in between deaths
Laser that's the 4th
I've begun to bring at least one dropship or bug breach killer stratagem to spam cause it prevents bad reinforce loops usually, even forgoing my 2nd support for it
stone bridge
I think 4 red strats might be a good thing for at least 1 person to bring haha
I think you do need to bring a support weapon, but 3x red strats is good
forest crater
Before I switched back to the arc boyo and shield pack I ran ac, laser, airstrike, and rocket pods/500k
Now that I can use my beloved again I run it, shield pack or rover(bots and bugs, respectively), orb laser, and airstrike
cobalt patrol
I've begun to bring at least one dropship or bug breach killer stratagem to spam...
I contiune to sing the praises of 380 barrage.
cobalt patrol
I think you do need to bring a support weapon, but 3x red strats is good
Agree
I actually feel like if you're arc throweirng into bugs, the ideal should be to team up with a RR user
and be their backpack buddy
honest acorn
I think you do need to bring a support weapon, but 3x red strats is good
I have been being very brave and just taking a jump pack for blues some lately
And just running the map for support weaps
forest crater
I actually feel like if you're arc throweirng into bugs, the ideal should be to ...
Honestly that's not a bad idea, but you'd have to count on the others bringing said RR
stone bridge
I have been being very brave and just taking a jump pack for blues some lately
I've honestly never liked this strategy because you need to run into more enemies to even chance getting a weapon, and there's no guarantee its something you like/fits the mission
stiff pine
honest acorn
I've honestly never liked this strategy because you need to run into more enemie...
Yeah I can only really do it if I have a primary I trust a lot
quick plinth
https://tenor.com/view/blinking-eyes-white-guy-blinking-meme-what-huh-gif-263343...
bricky used to make loads of LoL content yes
blissful sparrow
glad for him that he managed to escape that 😌
rough ravine
Whelp, picked this up
blissful sparrow
Welcome to the swimming pool. You may now helldive into it.
orchid pulsar
so anyone wanna <@&1206091872716595200> ?
rough ravine
I'm just about to jump into my first real mision
shy prairie
i could dive
unkempt river
T^T
rough ravine
Friend code in HD2 is 9638-1500 if anyone wants to jump in on babies first mission
quick plinth
orchid pulsar
merry cosmos
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/496335438722891776/1222853985329746000/IM...
snowball fight
cobalt patrol
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/496335438722891776/1222853985329746000/IM...
<@&1206091872716595200> Be aware of this crash bug
glacial light
Nooooo not the snowball meta
cobalt patrol
I'm afraid so
idle hollow
man portable HMG and spartan laser just dropped
stoic lotus
?
merry cosmos
man portable HMG and spartan laser just dropped
Are they available now?
stoic lotus
whuh
idle hollow
the spartan laser is free, like how the railgun was around launch and the mech was after it was unlocked
gonna be trying it on bots
barren iron
heavy machinegun might be my new weapon of choice
graceful bluff
That is a chunky fucking mag on that hmg
orchid pulsar
<@&1206091872716595200> in honor of the new strategems anyone wanna dive?
keen zinc
heavy machinegun might be my new weapon of choice
YES
JUMP PACK HMG
unfortunately I am having to do PC repair stuff ATM so I'll have to reinstall HD2
unkempt river
I have been bonked by being at work T^T
unkempt river
YEEESSSSS
cobalt patrol
<@&1206091872716595200> room for 1 more
unkempt river
T^T
sharp crater
I'm down, gimme a minute to log on
barren iron
awwww I thought the hmg was going to be a backpack
graceful bluff
That's gonna be the MGX
cobalt patrol
I'm down, gimme a minute to log on
Sounds good,m we're in the VC, just join up w/e
barren iron
like how they call it MG-101 when it's the MG-206
oh that's really ugly
the HMG has no crosshair in third person
I dont like that
keen zinc
gotta track where the bullets land
barren iron
I get that but it's a third person shooter arrowhead...
let me shoot third person...
blissful sparrow
just shoot, aiming is for communists. In Democracy you can just let freedom decide where the bullets land
barren iron
democratically voting on where the shots hit
glacial light
New stratagem and I'm working rip
I thought they only released content on 2nd Thursday of each month but no complaints from me
What pen is the heavy machine gun?
Is there any information I can obsess over online
glacial light
okay the laser cannon fucks
Does it require a backpack
keen zinc
every shot from the hmg is a tracer
that is why you dont get a crosshair
you gotta treat it like a real mg
watch where the bullets splash and draw it onto target
stoic lotus
that seems kinda fun
it creates "difficult to handle" pretty well
does it kill hive guards and devs
glacial light
Is the personal order really kill 400 automatons? Damn Super Earth is on a spree
It's a real personal personal order
sinful bay
Is realtively quickly honestly
If you go in two fo those "15 minutes to kill a fuckton" you finish it quickly
keen zinc
wehat the fuck
stoic lotus
incredible
glacial light
75 round mag and 1200 rpm?
merry cosmos
you gotta treat it like a real mg
I treat it like a heavy semi automatic rifle
sinful bay
wehat the fuck
.
What
How-
merry cosmos
wehat the fuck
$200 custom tooled cartridges
sinful bay
It costs 400thousand dollars to fire this weapon
For twenty seconds...
So super-earth had to compromise
stoic lotus
you can't fire it for 20 seconds you can fire it for 4 seconds
quartz cloak
I thought they only released content on 2nd Thursday of each month but no compla...
No, that's the warbonds, strategems are separate
fringe quiver
Does it take down tanks?
sinful bay
you can't fire it for 20 seconds you can fire it for 4 seconds
Exactly, that was super-earth compromise
keen zinc
i need to test the hmg on hard targets
sinful bay
Look a titan on it's non-existent eyes and fire at it
burnt vapor
So the quasar can kill factories if you shoot in the vent like the autocannon
quartz cloak
Power creep o'clock
keen zinc
its like a recoilless rifle that reloads itself with no backpakc
sinful bay
How much ammo the quasar have?
quartz cloak
Infinite
sinful bay
No way, it's literally a powercreep?
burnt vapor
it does not hit anywhere near as hard as the recoilless
sinful bay
Can it pierce light armor?
burnt vapor
shield devs can take several hits to their shield and be fine
quartz cloak
Easily
burnt vapor
YES
sinful bay
PERFECT, ALL IS FORGIVEN /j
cobalt patrol
Also it's really, really, really slow to fire and then recharrge
sinful bay
Give me the hand mortar and we are golden
cobalt patrol
it's basically a recoiless you cannot rapid fire.
burnt vapor
it feels like similar to autocannon in effect with more AOE
graceful bluff
how many shots
stoic lotus
does it have a first person sight
quartz cloak
It does
keen zinc
does it have a first person sight
red dot
keen zinc
how many shots
took a burst so i guess 3-5? maybe?
hard to tell i was shooting its armor as well
junior badge
Yeah, the las cannon is very satisfying but it's not nearly as powerful as a RR, gonna second that.
It's wonderful overkill on striders though! Literally blows them in half.
cobalt patrol
So far from what i've seen on quasar:
It's a Recoiless Rifle with the following properites:
Unlimited ammo - it has heat sinks, but at least on a cold planet, it seems impossible to overload the heatsink?
No Backpack
No backblast
No ability to rapid fire.
Very slow to recharge and to shoot - you have to charge up (whcih takes a solid 5s?), then it fires, then you're waiting another 10s or so before you can make another shot.
Extreme precision at long ranges - I sniped an AA base from extraction, and the AA base was several hundred meters away.
Less damage? (I'm unclear, i do not use the RR very much)
BUT, it's sufficiently strong to 2-tap turrets from any angle, 2 -tap annihilator tanks from any angle on the tank, it can one shot hulks if you hit the visor or hit the vents.
So it's a very powerful weapon, but you're going to need to couple it with something like the Sickle or the Scorcher to really maximize it's ability - it's not something you'll be using like it's a primary like the Autocannon, FT, Arc thrower. And the Recoiless's ability to go off with team cordination means it's still got a deserved niche. And if you miss your shot on a hulk, you're gonna suffer.
burnt vapor
It can one tap dropships to the thrusters I just tested
keen zinc
<@&1206091872716595200> room for one more
junior badge
Much better said than I could've, but that matches what I've seen from it.
cobalt patrol
Haha, i was writing it up for a forum i hang out on.
Big virtues seem to be it's an excellent hit and run weapon due to it's extreme range letting you get a shot and then run off making zoid berg noises. Jetpack seems a natural pairing to really push mobility and let you get shots from strange angles.
quartz cloak
Yes, though annoyingly enough the cooldown, while long, is still shorter than an RR reload
Which firmly puts the Recoilless in the spot of 'never use without a buddy'
cobalt patrol
Sure, but the RR can team load, and that's a huge deal
alsso the rr can relaod in stages.
I odfnt think it muscles things out, it'
it's juist always this is a team game
burnt vapor
I will say the charge up is definitely something I can see getting you killed where the RR would have you safe
cobalt patrol
Mhmm.
idle hollow
Does it require a backpack
neither of them do
cobalt patrol
my early read is it's a sniper/soloist weapopn
Great for soemone to play the roamer and do hit and run tactrics
and stick back from the main group wehre they can snipe priority targets without risk of getting staggered
sinful bay
So far from what i've seen on quasar:
It's a Recoiless Rifle with the followin...
So is not very good when you have a lot of bug holes around you to close
Seems to be better against automatons
cobalt patrol
Be very intersted to see how it performs vs chargers and biles
but yeah, seems ropuhg into bugs
because you just cannot use it like a primary
sinful bay
Always disrespect the chargers*
craggy lagoon
I think the quasar is relatively worse VS automation just because the auto Canon is so much better
glacial light
Autocannon does use a backpack though
craggy lagoon
Quasar can be a recoiless u can wear a jump pack with
True that is its one downside
glacial light
I'm probably gonna quasar since I usually always run a shield pack for bots
I haven't tried it but depending on the aforementioned spool up I might stick to EATs on bugs
craggy lagoon
Yea I don't think it's usable on 8/9 VS bugs because of the spool time
glacial light
Long Charge up seems kind of iffy when there's chargers charging
craggy lagoon
But with jump pack it might work
burnt vapor
the cooldown between shots also feels like it will be painful when you have several biles and chargers bearing down on you
craggy lagoon
Pray to the 500kg God
glacial light
As a sickle user, quasar seems like a great compliment. No reload, no ammo, cooldown only gang
craggy lagoon
Also I tried out the scorcher. It is definitely very good but for some reason I like the dominator more. I cant say why lol
glacial light
My dream is a continuous fire build where I just swap between laser weapons as they cooldown and never stop dakka
craggy lagoon
Already doable with sickle and laser Canon
glacial light
2000 average sickle shots fire per mission isn't enough I need 5 digits of firepower
Laser cannon seems nice but I prefer to use sickle over support weapons you can basically use as a second primary
Ig dagger exists but it's not great
keen zinc
HMG can pen scout striders from the front
merry cosmos
HMG can pen scout striders from the front
😮
glacial light
Laser cannon seems nice but I prefer to use sickle over support weapons you can ...
Or moreso I wanted a compliment to the sickle, a heavy hitter type cause sickle is already great at ad clear and that might be quasar once I try it out
How's the turn speed handling on the HMG?
glacial light
Rip no weapon handling armor
Let me move the HMG like a pistol with power armor
A better handling and recoil armor would make sense imo, if only recoil weren't on another armor
glacial light
Oh yea that happened to us on the same planet, I just threw a Gatling barrage and got like 15 kills
blissful sparrow
is that the center of the map?
i remember mention of a bug that bot patrols will all walk to the center of the map and then chill there
glacial light
They're just having a party
Center of the map was where I encounter the pile of troopers
It was just troopers and no meds or heavys
graceful bluff
We need modding so we can make it say https://youtu.be/lhXk_cPPm3o?si=SQXxrzBeDAXZE6YI
sinful bay
So it's like that meme "Your motherfucking life ends in 5 minutes from now" and the girl is holding a huge hammer?
keen zinc
your motherfucking life ends in 5 seconds from now
graceful bluff
Can you still aim when charging up
craggy lagoon
Can you still aim when charging up
yes, but its the same terrible spiraling aim marker that the rest of the laser weapons have, so not sure how easy it is to actually hit a weak point
cobalt patrol
Much easier if you ADS.
Also it's strength is enough that even if you miss the hulks eye, a second shot to the Hulk from the front is a kill
keen zinc
i like it for being a jump trooper
airborne bazooka troop
less powerful but more mobile than other AT guns
eats require you to regularly return to the ground to call in new ones
unkempt river
Quasar is a H&R specialist with good utility in roamer play? 👀
Did arrowhead make this just for me?