Helldivers 2: For Managed Democracy!

[oblique storm]

several dozen seconds

[stone bridge]

Yeah I mean ignore the clickbait title, it's a given

But the advice is interesting I think

Laser Cannon is kinda a dark horse weapon now

[cobalt patrol]

Very good if you can wrangle it

[rare nymph]

My current tactic is to hit shrieker nests with an AC from as far away as possible

Sure it eats up ammo but hey - it beats having to deal with shriekers

[forest crater]

Yeah, that's a good point

[reef path]

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTL2p2NT4/

[ivory swallow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKvhx1lb-4A

[cobalt patrol]

See, they';re really fun to hit with Sluggers <.<

[ionic holly]

i wanna find them just to fuck around and get used to pelting them with plasma punisher shots

least till the blitzer is fixed

just cause i think it'll be hilarious to ping one of them out of the sky with the plasma equivalent of a 40mm

[junior badge]

At the same time, Darktide is also always online and has no problem with mods.

Including fairly major ones like the weapon customisation, which makes some weapons much much better by way of giving them better sights.

[stone bridge]

Darktide had the benefit of being built from an existing engine fork with mod support, making implementation relatively straightforward

Arrowhead's custom version of the engine does not have that

[unkempt river]

<@&1206091872716595200> Game updated. Let's go

[junior badge]

That makes sense, but it's not quite the same reason 🙂

[cobalt patrol]

@unkempt river I'll be along shortly

[stone bridge]

What do you mean?

[junior badge]

Zombie said it wasn't possible because of the live service stuff, which Darktide technically has too.

[stone bridge]

Right, that's not the reason it's not possible

[junior badge]

I wasn't trying to say that they should trivially have mod support, since I wasn't even thinking about them technically sharing an engine ^^

[stone bridge]

Fair enough

[junior badge]

And given that they're obviously very different versions of the engine, what you said makes perfect sense.

[stone bridge]

Yeah HD2 and Darktide are functionally on different engines at this point - the only real commonality is they're arcane and esoteric

We might see mods further down the line but it won't be for a good long while

[cobalt patrol]

<@&1206091872716595200> Anyone else want to join Hades and I?

[orchid pulsar]

I might

Give me 5 minutes

[quick plinth]

this also explains varying levels of optimization

[civic apex]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/TawJZWQfDFI?feature=share

[orchid pulsar]

<@&1206091872716595200> we have space for one more

[oblique lotus]

I wish I could use the blitzer more because it's pretty fun

blitzer-senator quickswapping is better than I thought it would be though still pretty action intensive

[barren zephyr]

Starship Troopers OVA Klendathu Drop scene with Helldivers 2 music.

[stoic lotus]

starship troopers what

[stone bridge]

yup

six part OVA

[stoic lotus]

wtf

is it like the film or the book

[stone bridge]

also: <@&1206091872716595200> we have room for 1 more in SSC

The book, it was released in '88

[graceful bluff]

Do they explain the mechs

[stone bridge]

Its power armour and mentioned in the book, apparently

[shy prairie]

It's what puts the mobile in mobile infantry

[cobalt patrol]

https://www.threepanelsoul.com/comics/1711079092-850.png

Three Panel Soul: It's a bug's (Terrible) life.

[hexed steeple]

it ain't easy being bug

[sinful bay]

Join the Tyrannids
Ezz

[graceful bluff]

super earth would be turbofucked if the terminids got just one narvhal

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1183236936383594567/1220699377484431430/hulkdancefloor.mp4?ex=660fe3e3&is=65fd6ee3&hm=48b3b1117adcfc2c8d07e79e8388b47bb284fc139a55aa775319d94fa067a30f&

[stone bridge]

Thinkin' about running like, Strafing Run/500kg/Stalwart/EATs into bugs or something

MG/EATs worked really quite well

Though I'd like a better/more mobile weapon

Maybe even the Laser Cannon

[stoic lotus]

at the higher difficulties you kinda need a support weapon that can kill chargers, unless the rest of the gang has got a lot of stuff to deal with them

[stone bridge]

EATs does that

[stoic lotus]

ye

did you mean instead of the stalwart

[stone bridge]

Nah I just run both

EATs is the 4th slot

[barren zephyr]

hmm anyone here play HD1?

[stoic lotus]

I mean when you talk about replacing something with a laser cannon

[glacial light]

Yea I'm assuming drop the EATs whens you see a charger pick it up then picking up your other support when it's dead

[stoic lotus]

amko runs jump pack stalwart EATs

but he's a proper maniac

[glacial light]

I did that for a bit but it's kind of clunky but when there's a lot of enemies sometimes getting to your support on the floor is rough

Amko built different

A skill level I can't hope to match

[stoic lotus]

he has converted me to the jump pack lifestyle

no more will I cower behind a shield, simply run away from the bullets

I discovered today that you can actually reload midair

[glacial light]

Yea that's very useful I wanted to try GL jump pack but the grenades just go in crazy directions when you use it mid air

I want to live the close assault trooper fantasy cause I love being a melee tank in most 3rd person games or fps but I have skill issue to wear light

Heavy armor life for me, the slow and steady way

[stoic lotus]

I wear the light throwing distance armour and go 500kg, airstrike, jump pack, flamethrower

with stun grenades

[north fiber]

sex is cancelled for the foreseeable future

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/325196365166673920/1220712488656699403/GJRl7hDaYAAhzud.png?ex=660ff019&is=65fd7b19&hm=b432c51e55e7d6caa0363be4b92840d625908d6e1b4ce1b84445a6572f31df95&

[stoic lotus]

[stark ether]

deeply ironic

[stoic lotus]

the gamer population remains unaffected

[barren iron]

Lol

[hollow plover]

My one shot at glory...

[glacial light]

It makes sense how would humans reproduce without 710, you need it for so many things like Eagle Sweat

[glacial light]

Well gay sex that can't result in a child is still on the menu

No C-01 needed

https://www.vxtiktok.com/t/ZTL2v6CYK/

[burnt vapor]

Apparently I live in the best time line

[stoic lotus]

huh what

[stark ether]

just thats the entire deck with a 500kg bomb at the bottom

[sinful bay]

The flamethrower really is so fucking fun against bugs
Like
Fuck

"Chokepoint? More like BBQ central"

[stoic lotus]

I love my propane and propane accessories

[barren iron]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/992876819688734760/1158471915799859214/dfe.gif

[stoic lotus]

it would be fun if it was napalm and you could slosh it about

[sinful bay]

Big same

Maybe in the future, Naphalm launcher

[glacial light]

Wish granted, you have a napalm launcher but it's a rover dog

[sinful bay]

Honestly give me a 95% fire resist/afterburn armor and we are golden

I shall become the Helldiver
But I bring hell where I dive

[stoic lotus]

burn resist armour would be lovely

[sinful bay]

If that would be too specific, combo with acid resist

[stoic lotus]

they put shock resist in

[sinful bay]

"Environment armor"

[stoic lotus]

nothing is too specific

[sinful bay]

That exist just so you can breakdance while inside the tesla coil

[cobalt patrol]

@stoic lotus March 2024: "All my bones have fallen out. I need drugs."

Verbatim quote, folks.

[junior badge]

Chilling while listening to the anthem is the most democratic way to relax

[stark ether]

remember to take your 2.4 seconds

[graceful bluff]

How the fuck

last I checked one of the planets weren't even unlocked

[fringe quiver]

There's been conflicting reports

some are saying we won, others saying we lost

I'm convinced something else is going on

but surely the automatons aren't advanced enough to hack our communications right?

[glacial light]

Automatons can't get past our advanced arrow base captcha!

Theyre too socialist to understand being able to look at highway bridges and bikes!

[keen zinc]

So did we win or losen

I've heard conflicting reportsb

[stark ether]

lost

but game buggy so some people get win message

[quick plinth]

thats hilarious

[barren zephyr]

Me whenever my teammate accidentally alerted the patrols and got the entire team screwed at the objectives

[stark ether]

same energy

[keen zinc]

I'm bummed the patch fixing issues isn't gonna come this week

[junior badge]

Eh, I appreciate that they won't do overtime on a Friday including a deployment to prod...

Sucks, but I'd rather they also have decent working conditions. Makes the game more enjoyable for me, actually ^^'

[keen zinc]

[undone veldt]

Also I’ve been hearing talks about Arc weapons crashing games

[keen zinc]

I agree but my work week is Sunday-Wednesday

[undone veldt]

Is that true?

[keen zinc]

Yes

[undone veldt]

Fuck that sucks

[keen zinc]

No lightning for you

[oblique storm]

The leftism leaving amkos body when the game won't update

[keen zinc]

I am not saying I want them to work through the weekend

I accept the reality I am just bummed

[blissful sparrow]

If we delete weekends they don't have to work through weekends

[oblique storm]

Mako wants these devs whipped so we get a new update every day

[keen zinc]

My leftism is better than yours

Bastard

Doing this to you

[oblique storm]

As you go to get other rocks I eat the ones you left on me

[barren iron]

That shit is so evil

Everyone looks so fancy too

This aint medieval this is like 1700s

[barren iron]

Enlightenment my ass

[oblique storm]

It's the Salem witch trials

[barren iron]

Ah

Idk american history (this is a lie)

[oblique storm]

There was a guy accused of witchcraft so he was crushed with weights in an attempt to get him to confess

All he said was MORE WEIGHT

Until he died

So that the government could not revoke the land from his sons

Since he technically died innocent

[barren zephyr]

damn we are losing the invasion of Cyberstan in HD1

only an hour left and the Borgs are winning

[keen zinc]

Historical revisionism

[oblique storm]

https://youtu.be/P9yK5E1iw4o?si=yRyHxuZO6Pxy4F28

[heady halo]

in the book everyone was in mecha, with nuclear bazookas

[glad marsh]

Hey wait
We didn't actually liberate the target planets right?
But it was bugged out?
Maybe that's why the victory thing was sent instead of the defeat one?

I'm confused about the results of the last major..

Oh well

[keen zinc]

We lost

Some people got the victory message by mistake

Liberation stuff is being tweaked by the devs allegedly

How it works

Might have higher diffs do more liberation

Also remove decay and make it so resistance just changes how much liberation it takes, so no effort is wasted

Means the Creek will eventually be taken

[glad marsh]

I see

[stoic lotus]

nobody gave me any

[velvet pollen]

apparently the arc thrower is causing crashes

[glad marsh]

Arc weapons in general actually

The shotgun might do it even more often

[blissful sparrow]

really the annoying thing is that its never the arc user that crashes 😄

[glad marsh]

I'm told it's a hit-marking issue, where it tries to send all the information from the arc user to everyone else

[graceful bluff]

Anything that causes arcs yes

so the shotgun and stratagem too

[glad marsh]

And the data ends up overloading the connection enough to crash the game

[graceful bluff]

I find this unlikely since it affects the stratagem too

[forest crater]

Arc user here, definitely crashed mid-smite at one point

[orchid pulsar]

hey hey <@&1206091872716595200> who wants to join me?

[velvet pollen]

heard it has to do with the arc thrower giving great than 100% accuracy

[rich marlin]

I was trying to do the traditional 'drop your leftover 500kg on extract for cool effect' thing when one of my rando teammates punched me, ragdolling me and causing me to drop the stratagem and almost not make it to the shuttle

I did make it and it looked epic but come on man

[stoic lotus]

lol who punches a guy

[glacial light]

It's why I only do strats if I'm the last one on the shuttle

Which is never I'm always first

[quick plinth]

be there in a bit

[stark ether]

this is my cue for a PSA: the extraction shuttle is vulnerable to AOE damage, if it takes enough you cant enter and you cant leave

[keen zinc]

https://tenor.com/view/aax-gif-25751647

[rich marlin]

I was trying to be the last and time it so it exploded while we flew away like badasses but I guess rando saw the stratagem and got... nervous?

idk, I kicked them for that because if I wanted to team kill, I'd have my gun out

[glad marsh]

Oh I see

I'm just saying what I heard

I

Don't actually know what it is for sure

But it's clearly something to do with how the game registers hits with them

[blissful sparrow]

devs now officially confirmed it 😄

[graceful bluff]

That was over a day ago :v

[junior badge]

<@&1206091872716595200> anyone up for a few?

[graceful bluff]

fuck it sure I can run one or two

[junior badge]

awesome

activity 1 it is

[stoic lotus]

I'll come do a couple

[heady halo]

looks like you got 4 now but give me a ping if u need another !

oh that said <@&1206091872716595200> anyone else down to dive?

ive got an hour or two from now

im gonna jump into a 10 minute to help out bur im around

[glacial light]

I can join in a bit

[heady halo]

hell yeah

ill be in activity two, no stress
if im not there when anyone joins ill be back after checking my frijoles

[reef path]

How many spots do you have open? I’m available to join up if that’s ok!

[heady halo]

jump on in! currently two left but sevens will be a bit

thats two left after you themp

[heady halo]

activity room 2

[keen zinc]

spot stolen

heuebauauah

[agile fable]

im gonna keep it real folks

i dont care how tough helldivers is, splatoon 3 salmon run is harder by a good margin

[velvet pollen]

gamers will flex about their "achievements" but haven't played the cult PSX classic Elmo's Letter Adventure

the single most hardcore game to ever be released on consoles or other video gaming hardware modalities...........

[stoic lotus]

I don't think helldivers is that hard it's just chaotic

[rare nymph]

A random I was with just wiped the squad on extract with a 500kg… while he was standing on top of a rock with our samples

I was like “ok, even if the rest of us die, at least our samples will be safe as the bugs can’t get to him”

He found a way disprove me

[stoic lotus]

he's doing his part

[heady halo]

@reef path can you hear us?

[reef path]

Yeah I can hear you

[heady halo]

we cant hear you waaa

sorry

[reef path]

I guess my mic hasn’t been working for like 10 minutes lol

I gotta do some chores so I’m hopping off

[heady halo]

wahhh have fun with chores!

thanks for joining us! was good to meet you!

[alpine seal]

the red timer with objective not even close to done. the spent reinforcements. the POV being the limbless torso of a helldiver with all 5 wounds. the hulk dancing with 2 rocket devastators flanking it. the rocket chaff running past just to rub it in

i said it when i saw this vid first but this is the helldivers video of all time

[heady halo]

@glossy patio can you hear us? you are muted?

[heavy portal]

https://vxtwitter.com/Mr_Rebs_/status/1771207073176392119

[modest fiber]

well jokes on you, i don't get to do that anyway

[glacial light]

It does specify procreation

My gay sex is safe

[heady halo]

<@&1206091872716595200> got one/two spaces free in activity two if anyone wants a quick mission!

[undone veldt]

So the laser cannon is great for shriekers

I can basically cut off their wings with a sweeping shot

[ionic holly]

yknow
here i was thinking i did poorly in the mission

[cobalt patrol]

New way to comit suicide in mission: accidnetaly stick your own shield with a gattling turret call in

undodgeable >.>

[graceful bluff]

(You can drop your shield pack)

[ionic holly]

simply parry it

[wind arrow]

you rang?

[glacial light]

Not enough melee kills

[ionic holly]

boutta make you number 8

[keen zinc]

<@&1206091872716595200> we must earn back the privilege of sex in the missionary position for the sole purpose of reproduction

Estanu must be defended

https://discord.gg/udRAQ3rT

[rich marlin]

That is still the funniest part of this major order

[ionic holly]

no seggs

but yeah kill the bugs

[rich marlin]

"Listen here Helldivers, no grass touching permitted til you shape up"

[ionic holly]

somewhere out there a helldiver was promised a C-01 permit if they cleared a mission

not a bad mix

[rich marlin]

I need to check out how my HUD removal mod interacts with the stores

[rich marlin]

Might make that even better

[heavy portal]

[keen zinc]

no patriots have answered the call

[rich marlin]

Sorry Amko Super Earth Estth demands I work a "regular job" before Helldiving

Which is bullshit but Super Earth knows best

(I desperately wish to Helldive)

[honest acorn]

I should be available soonish

[undone veldt]

I’ll be on a bit

[rich marlin]

Reddit is a lawless place but sometimes it hits you with some bs and your mind is blown

Just read a post explaining that every Helldiver that is dropped out of the pods is a different person, not clones like i kinda assumed.

[kindred lintel]

they just happen to wear the same thing and act exactly the same

[rich marlin]

One of the things the post pointed to is how, by default, your voice pack is set to random

Which while it is only 4 voices, is a pretty interesting range of masculine and feminine voices

[strange vine]

lemme find the ceo's tweet again

[rich marlin]

Of course you can change it, but i do find the idea interesting

I think it does make a slight bit more sense than using cloning tech when your Super Destroyer and its various stratagems are held together with thoughts and prayers until you upgrade it

[glacial light]

You can't clone democratic values, you gotta raise a whole freedom loving democratic individual from childhood for Super Earth

[rich marlin]

And then i just read this and I find it amusing and horrifying at the same time

[glacial light]

That's why helldivers are shot out like bullets

They're the ammo

[rich marlin]

This game is too fucking clever for its own good i swear 😭

[kindred lintel]

SES Ranger of Starlight was probably a great name choice, I enjoy it even more after reading that

[strange vine]

from the ceo himself

[rich marlin]

Yeah i saw a lot of references to that tweet in the thread

Damn brilliant game, glad i actually saw that thread, makes me appreciate the satire more

[rare nymph]

I finally have enough rare samples to get the final ship upgrade, despite the game’s best efforts to prevent me getting them

I can finally leave deathspiral mode

[unreal merlin]

Now you can focus all your efforts toward simply winning the war. Complete those objectives, Helldiver!

[glacial light]

https://www.rxddit.com/r/Helldivers/comments/1bla6u2/so_we_tried_to_cross_the_river_in_a_mech/

[wraith furnace]

I was wondering how Super Earth had the budget to give every Helldiver their own ship.

[candid finch]

got bodied into a water and drowned ;-;

[glacial light]

Well considering there's probably hundreds of Helldivers frozen and each are unfrozen when the previous die with a life expectancy of 2 minutes

Probably less ships than you'd think

Also super destroyers are fairly small

And I assume relatively cheap since the ordnance we use in a single op is worth more than a super destroyer

[rare nymph]

I figure Super Destroyers are pretty cheap and/or launched half-baked, and that's why you need to upgrade it extensively for such luxuries as breech-loading cannons

[keen zinc]

I think I am AMR-pilled

[oblique lotus]

I want to use the arc blitzer so bad

but I can't

[honest acorn]

I like it for bugs

I feel like its on the wrong side of a lot of breakpoints for bots with the low fire rate

[oblique lotus]

oh I meant that it crashes the game atm

[honest acorn]

Oh yeah I mean ignoring that

[oblique lotus]

it's so much fun against bugs

going blitzer-revolver-blitzer

[keen zinc]

I do wonder what the next balance patch is gonna be like

[honest acorn]

My wishlist is:

• more ammo per pickup for MG, maybe an extra mag
• more ammo per pickup for RR
  And I suspect that we're gonna see some changes around armored enemies again

[cobalt patrol]

I wouldn't be surprised to see the Sickle get a love tap

[rare nymph]

The sickle makes me wanna revisit the stock liberator, but then I think "but what if I just use the sickle instead" lol

[meager saffron]

a nerf to the sickle's uptime wouldn't be out of line

it's pretty brutal going back to the liberator afterwards

despite the lib itself being a great gun

[glacial light]

What advanragss does the liberator have over the sickle

Sickle feels like better liberator but with a slight spin up

[rare nymph]

Uh... its got a laser pointer!

[cobalt patrol]

I'm hoping they maybe give some love to the Railgun - i do think at this poiint they over nerfed it, and it's gone from The Meta Weapon to who runs this.

Ideally, i'd like to see it's AP changed up again (Probably put more in the unsafe state - if it can get back to "punch through heavy dev shields", it gets a lot better), and reduce it's ammo down in return (20 in the pack is a ton, and it'd be a lot more reasonable at 15 or even 10, which would push the sniper fantasty with it too. A better scope could also help it a lot)

I'd like them to take a look at the basic Frag and HE grenades - the latter especially needs a tune on it's fuse time. Shifting it's fuse down and increasing it's base damage a small amount would give the HE a role vs Impacts. Frags could probably just use a bigger aoe, so they have the role as the "Fuck this group" aoe grenade. Impacts getting an aoe reduction wouldnt be the worst.

Agree on ammo uptime on Machine Gun.

otherwise, i odnt think anything's jumpoing out at me right now

everything feels like it's got a niche and a reason to bring it

I guess priamries in general still need a bit of a look

[honest acorn]

That's a good call yeah its kind of just a Liberator but with quasi-infinite ammo

[honest acorn]

These are small but it has a longer reload and a spin up

But you get more shots per burst and infinite ammo with careful heat management out of it

And I think no bullet drop?

[cobalt patrol]

Sickle mainly jhust needs to loose a few heat sinks

[rare nymph]

And minuscule recoil

[cobalt patrol]

6 is very silly and lets you bake them all day every day

if you had 3 or even 2, heat management is actually a consideration

[glacial light]

Yea I rarely use more than 2 heatsinks in a mission

6 is overkill

[honest acorn]

Yeah the Scythe needs 6 but the sickle can probably get away with 3-4

Actually a small scythe buff would be nice

[glacial light]

And considering sickle gets like 2 sinks per ammo I believe

[honest acorn]

All I really want is for the movement lockout for like .3 seconds after firing to go

But a little more damage would make it a more reliable pick

[glacial light]

How does the scythe handle I've never used it

[oblique lotus]

if it has bullet drop I haven't seen it

[honest acorn]

It's very weird

[oblique lotus]

the scythe doesn't have recoil but it does wander if you're moving

[honest acorn]

It's similar to the sickle with a windup

But it fires a continuous beam which has very high damage vs unarmored and ablates heavier armor

[oblique lotus]

I really wish I knew how laser damage mechanics worked becaues there's some kind of secret sauce to its damage output but tldr hold the beam on weakpoints

[honest acorn]

So it works pretty well on bugs by snipping legs off and such

And can eyepoke bots pretty well

But it sucks vs armored targets

If you can't avoid the armor

It's extremely accurate but has a shitty scope

[oblique lotus]

actually I wish they made the scythe dot smaller

that's pretty much the only thing I"d change about it besides telling me how the hell it functions

[glacial light]

Oh I see so I guess dagger being a smol scythe does something similar?

[oblique lotus]

the dagger is almost exactly half a scythe

[unreal merlin]

It's a half scythe yeah

[glacial light]

Maybe one day we'll get a half sickle sidearm for infinite laser dakka

[rare nymph]

Sawed-off scythe

[unreal merlin]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1208390071074562139/1220871492913467472/image.png?ex=6610842e&is=65fe0f2e&hm=0749fc13d1b7d135e26435c73cb7e40c736c0fdf589532c7bf22bfab82576b15&

[rare nymph]

Or a Scy, if you will

[unreal merlin]

We brought enough AT

[glacial light]

Gee I wonder where you dropped in at

I guess we'll never know what the Helldivers did on ground

Also, I wonder if automatons like scrape up leftover weapons from helldivers

Like surely unless our stuff had self destruct or helldiver identification they could just take an EATs or mech leftover

[wide mural]

my one friend calls in EAT on cooldown no exceptions

map always looks like that

[unreal merlin]

I go out of my way to deny the enemy resources (most of the time)

Every EAT gets fired, every time.

[glacial light]

Sometimes I just use eats on medium enemies cause no one else uses them

And I never remember where I put them if the pod is gone

[unreal merlin]

Really though, calling EATs preemptively is important. One friend only ever called them down after we needed them, when a Charger was already on top of us.

NO. If there's not one on your back at ALL TIMES, you need to call more down.

[glacial light]

If your only heavy weapon is an EATs you might as well always have one

Although I do know folks that run a heavy alongside EATs and just call it in when needed

Or just scatter them on CD

[unreal merlin]

I've done that. Though really, "drop your MG for two seconds to nab this RR/EAT and kill an enemy, then trade back" should be encouraged. Especially if it's someone else's EAT/RR.

Doesn't matter who kills the Hulk, as long as it goes down.

[cobalt patrol]

https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxDUuKvtVmzFECCeRJEFXJlFpubRAVoDU0?si=UIOhdpWsGCVnUTTo

[keen zinc]

God yes more ammo for the mg per pickup would save it

[stone bridge]

I'm genuinely not sure why the MG only loads 1 magazine per resupply box

[dusk agate]

THat is... that is specatcular

[cobalt patrol]

THank you, thank you

[graceful bluff]

It being a single mag per resupply pack is just insane

[quick plinth]

I mean a lot of other support weapons function that way

its just that those support weapons have a lot more value in that one round/resupply

[junior badge]

I dunno, I felt the MG worked pretty well for me against bugs.

Of course it would love more ammo, but I feel like that's much less restricting than the Spear's lock-on being crap, fex.

[stone bridge]

The MG is a good weapon for sure, but it's hamstrung by the lack of ammo

[cobalt patrol]

For comparsion, the FT with easier reloads gets all 4 mags back from a single ammo pop

[stoic lotus]

it is odd how the flamethrower gets a full refill

I never use all 4

[cobalt patrol]

The FT is also the highest risk/reward support weapon atm, i think

nothing else says "Puit yourself in the danger zone while also setting your own face on fire"

[stoic lotus]

not me constantly setting myself on fire

running up to stunned chargers to try and point blank burn them before they recover

it's fun

[junior badge]

I think my wishlist would go something like this:

• Spear lockon improvement (+ maybe ammo)
  • it's just not consistent enough
• AMR sight fix
  • genuine bug that makes a good gun unnecessarily harder to use
• Diligence + Counter-Sniper buff (probably big AP on one, big damage on the other?)
• Scythe and Dagger damage or armor-melt buff or something
  • the scythe is nearly okay. Pre-Sickle, I already liked it, but now it's clear that it just isn't quite there.
  • the dagger doesn't kill chaff fast enough. It should deal about as much damage as the scythe, but overheat much faster, then it'll be good, imo
• Blitzer slight firerate improvement
  • it just gets overwhelmed a bit too easily atm, I think
• Sickle slight nerf to make it not the perfect all-rounder
  • maybe overheat a tad faster and only have 4 spares or so?
• Pistol gains a suppressor or something to give it a benefit vs the machine pistol
  • right now, the MP just does its job better, and the MP feels like it's in a great spot - so buff the pistol
• Railgun QoL on the sight
  • I'm sure it would love regaining some AP or damage, but I'm not convinced it needs anything.

[honest acorn]

I do haha

I love making firebreaks but it burns up ammo like mad

[junior badge]

Which imo is the weirder part. But sure, bring up the MG to be more on par with that.

[stoic lotus]

I'm constantly goblining around after ammo and calling in resupplies

[junior badge]

It won't turn into an all-dominating weapon even with more ammo, so that's fine.

[stoic lotus]

I do think the mg deserves 2 refills

[honest acorn]

It feels really weird that the MG gets the same ammo from supply and ammo boxes

So yeah I agree

Since its really quite strong I'd make it so you can carry 3 reserve mags and supply packs give 2

I think its meant to be supply-hungry

[junior badge]

And then give the Stalwart 4 reserves?

Since it's supposed to have more.

[honest acorn]

I'd be fine with that haha

It already has a lot more ammo though since each mag is 100 more shots

[junior badge]

Yeah, I mean, neither of these are gonna be broken with that much ammo.

[wind arrow]

question: does orbital laser close bug holes

[junior badge]

No, at least I've never seen it do that.

Requires something explosive.

[junior badge]

I've added some of my reasoning; curious to see what all of you folks think.

[stoic lotus]

I agree with all those

[shy prairie]

as an admittedly low skill fella i wish the spear was 1-tap charger wherever

[stoic lotus]

if it hits it should knock armour off

[quick plinth]

dear mother of democracy

[junior badge]

Yeah, I'm mostly okay with it not being a guaranteed kill, since it does quite a bit of damage and removes armor on a hit.

But perhaps once the targeting is fixed, it turns out that it does also need a slight damage buff.

[stone bridge]

The Dagger really is trashy

It deserves a bump

[quick plinth]

I wonder what causes bugs to extrude like that

[oblique lotus]

I wish the dagger was closer to last game's tanto

extreme damage at very short range

[junior badge]

Yeah, that would work too!

[quick plinth]

though I feel like its use is kinda moot then

since there are many primaries already that excell at close range damage

[junior badge]

The point would be to use it with one of the others.

A loadout I tried was Punisher Plasma, Dagger, and various supports.

[oblique lotus]

I'm talking sub shotgun range

the tanto in hd1 covered about five helldiver lengths but absolutely murdered things

[junior badge]

And like, in such a loadout, you'd want something to take out whatever manages to come too close.

The machine pistol can do it, but it runs out of ammo too fast for a whole mission, unless you absolutely hog the resupply.

If the dagger were even just "pocket scythe" at the same damage but quicker overheat, it would've worked.

It would also, I think, give it a niche in the secondaries:

• MP is the "oh shit" gun - pull it out, hose down anything nearby that's lightly or un armored
• Senator is the big singleshot secondary
• Dagger is the unlimited ammo but kinda slow TTK basic sidearm
• Pistol gets a silencer and becomes the sneak-gun

Because right now, you have Senator and Redeemer, and then you have worse redeemer and tickle beam

[stoic lotus]

tried out the fairly wacky loadout of eagle airstrike, jump pack, stalwart, EATs this morning

I think it could do with taking a cluster or strafing run over the airstrike and swapping the stuns for impacts, but overall it works pretty nicely with a punisher/slugger primary

[keen zinc]

welcome to the life

[stoic lotus]

oh god

I'm turning into amko

I even switched to that armour today

[keen zinc]

<@&1206091872716595200> liberty doesnt sleep in

[stoic lotus]

gimme like 10 minutes

[random socket]

Is there a reason my game keeps like... flashing

Both the world and the UI keeps flashing, mostly separately, sometimes my UI loses letters...?

My legs keep losing textures too and becoming bright pink, which wouldn't bother me if it were like, intentional

you can see it on the NPCs pauldrons actually

[cobalt patrol]

Verify your files

[random socket]

I have

My friend said my computer's haunted

Not immensely helpful tech advice

im gonna do it again anyway

[stoic lotus]

I'm with your friend

[random socket]

Cool thanks

The flashing is giving me a migraine

So like I'm just not gonna play it if this keeps happening

[cobalt patrol]

Machine spirits are jerks.

I'd try uninstalling and reinstalling as the next step

[graceful bluff]

Might be your graphics driver being fucked

[cobalt patrol]

I'd also try uninstalling and reinstalling your graphics drivers

If none of that works or it turns up in other games, it's likely a graphics card issue

If it's just this game it might be a hard drive issue

Pink textures like that are what the game uses as a fallback "I don't have a texture" texture

The flashing between would indicate some sort of file corruption somewhere

Where it's trying and failing to load

[graceful bluff]

(also dumb question but it has to be said, have you restarted your pc)

[cobalt patrol]

That's all I can think of currently, but i hope it helps @random socket

And yes, restarting can help flush things out

[random socket]

I have played this game multiple days on multiple boots.

I have verified the files

My hard drive is an SSD with plenty of space and a 99% on CrystalDiskInfo, as are all my drives

I install latest graphics drivers as soon as I see them, but I don't know if I've installed any fresh recently

last update was 4 days ago and added Forbidden West support, which I was just bought by a friend, so I guess I'll fresh install those

[cobalt patrol]

That does imply it might be a hardware issue then, but it's certainly possible a file got weirdly corrupted somehow

Sadly, I'm at the limits of my tech knowledge.I hope you find a solution

[keen zinc]

boots?

[cobalt patrol]

As in booting the computer up

From our being shutdown

[glacial light]

I am so democracy pilled I had a dream where I was using ultra light armor in HD2 and actually being good at the game with it

[quick plinth]

it indeed is offcentre

(magenta dot is centre of the screen)

[glacial light]

https://www.vxtiktok.com/t/ZTLjyQ969/

EATs once again goated but as a melee weapon

[barren zephyr]

The Bolter thing from HD1

[red steeple]

<@&1206091872716595200> who's around for a second squad? hanging out in SSC

[keen zinc]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SUdC4r82WM

@quick plinth

[strange vine]

its funny how the helldiver drones have changed from generic sci fi drone in HD1 and then after quadcopters have become mainstream they've become quadcopters in HD2

its a trend ive been seeing in sci fi and stuff over the years

[glacial light]

wow the ranges for combat in HD1 are a lot smaller than 2

I do see a lot of Magicka in that as the same studio

[oblique storm]

https://vxtwitter.com/DumbRobotStuff/status/1771462400811606194

[copper crest]

Oh the drone's made from SM jump packs, clever

[cerulean sluice]

Given that the Tau focus on aerial/orbital firepower and mobility over holding terrain, wouldn’t they fit better?

[keen zinc]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kkj5xvsYks

[keen zinc]

<@&1206091872716595200> https://discord.gg/RbWM7Uwm

[glacial light]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDVfekQWnsU

[glacial light]

Is that light gunner with extra padding worth it?

[alpine seal]

i'd say so, yeah

[stoic lotus]

I ran it today and I like it

[glacial light]

I have like 3 light armors and i'm gonna try out ultralight + shield to see how that feels

[stoic lotus]

I am living the ultralight jump pack life

if shit sucks, hit da bricks

[quick plinth]

it's worth it

its medium armor for light stamina and speed

very good on bots if you're a fan of light armor

[glacial light]

I got the most top heavy helldiver

[stoic lotus]

lmao

[glacial light]

Also who's <@&1206091872716595200>

[glacial light]

Ok I see the beauty of ultralight armor

[stoic lotus]

welcome to speed

[glacial light]

Yup i'm converted to ultralight

I still use shield pack because i'm in a toxic relationship with it

[stoic lotus]

it's definitely really good

but it doesn't launch you into the air

[hot meadow]

Yeah light armor is my favorite and light armor with medium armor scores is low key the best in the game

[glacial light]

I do not like squishy unfortunately, I do not h ave the awareness to not put myself in bad situation

[oblique storm]

I like light armor for bots and heavy for bugs

[hot meadow]

It’s pretty much a nonissue with bugs IME but with bots it is quite hard I agree

[oblique storm]

That's where I'm at rn

[blissful sparrow]

opposite for me. I like to run circles around bugs, but for bots i need to be able to get shot in the face 37 times and still be standing

[oblique storm]

The thing is that like

You can't outrun stalkers, hunter, bile titans, crushers, or shriekers

[blissful sparrow]

but you can run towards them

[oblique storm]

You CAN outrun everything but a Hulk

[stoic lotus]

I can fly away

[glacial light]

This is surprisingly fitting

[stoic lotus]

it looks pretty silly with the giant helmet

[glacial light]

I've got to have something wide if not my armor

Hold up that's an old screenshot

This is what I meant

[stoic lotus]

oh yeah those look good together

it looks like a big pilot helmet or something

[glacial light]

The chest on the ultralight throw armor is oddly wider than the padded other one

[stoic lotus]

the throwing armour looks really nice

[blissful sparrow]

ultra light throw armor keep taking Ws

[stoic lotus]

I was using that for a bit but I figured I'd try the padded

[blissful sparrow]

that armor + the Insect head was my drip for like the first 30 hours

[stoic lotus]

since it does give you twice the defence which seems strong

[glacial light]

What are like some good ultralights to keep an eye out for

[stoic lotus]

the one on the previous super store rotation was explosion resist

which is great vs bots

but afaik I think you have the two best ones, throwing and padded

[honest acorn]

Light medic armor is pretty nice

[stoic lotus]

there's also the sneaky one in the base battle pass

I didn't realise ultralight medic existed

[glacial light]

Is there a big different between light and ultralight?

[stoic lotus]

idk

[quick plinth]

wdym ultra light

[honest acorn]

I think my favorite armor is actually the BMX biker stealth armor from the first page of the free pass

[stoic lotus]

50 armour instead of 75

[honest acorn]

I assume 550 speed armor

[quick plinth]

light armor is 50

75 is the inbetweener from medium

most light armors have 50

[honest acorn]

There’s 68 and 75 light armors

[gusty heron]

I'm a fan of medium armor right now, but I'm 90% sure that's just because I've barely unlocked anything and the +2 grenade medium armor is both early and fun

[quick plinth]

but anyway, who needs anything else since there's both light and heavy medic armor
(this is mostly a joke)

[stoic lotus]

people who like throwing things, sneaking, not getting oneshot, having more grenades, etc

[gusty heron]

Also because it seems like when I die from robots it's from an unseen turret tower which heavier armor probably wouldn't have saved me from, and when I die from bugs it's from getting flanked and dragged down by the medium-light bugs which maybe more speed would have saved me from but idk (I just need to get better with the jetpack there probably)

[stoic lotus]

I was absolutely schmoovin on a turret tower today

I had to distract it for like a minute while amko ran up behind it

[honest acorn]

Heavy blast armor means you won’t die to anything but a direct shell hit from a tower

You actually take almost 0 damage from the explosion

I think the 50% reduction applies before armor reduction

[stoic lotus]

not sure how effective trying to sidestep rockets and cannon shots is with heavier armour but it's feasible with light

[honest acorn]

It’s doable

[stoic lotus]

I have begun seeing into the matrix and just walking between devastator rocket salvos

[honest acorn]

It’s a little bit harder but also you survive 2-3 rocket hits with heavy blast armor

[gusty heron]

Once I notice them it's EAT time, but I've only fought towers in Malevelon and they'll just donk you from behind tree cover if you allies activate the base.

But also that sounds like a compelling case for heavy armor

[quick plinth]

I like the little light thing they do before firing

[gusty heron]

I may need to try that out once I get a better set of it

[quick plinth]

makes me feel like an anime protag dodging cannons

[stoic lotus]

there's an armour that's halfway between medium and heavy and has explosive resist and that one seems like it would be pretty great for bots if you like that sort of thing

[quick plinth]

the one that was in the super store sometime earlier

yeah I've been using that one

[gusty heron]

I've been sitting on my credits for now, probably going to wait until I can pour them into a warbond but idk. I'm at this time only eight or so hours in, and considering how dramatically the entire feel of playing changed when I got the EAT I reckon there's a lot more things in store

[stoic lotus]

yeah there is a lot of neat stuff to unlock

[azure pewter]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1204832579287519292/1219095526625116331/image.png?ex=660a0e2f&is=65f7992f&hm=56eaab7ef8b50a5dcd4fdda9f2b1d7750acb11854ca5c2e572b2c3b8ebc9eb28&

[stoic lotus]

stand ball for turtle crawl

[glacial light]

Ok now I hate shriekers

And their corpses one shotting you

[stoic lotus]

the corpse thing is silly

[gusty heron]

<@&1206091872716595200> Any of y'all up diving they hell with room for one more?

[glacial light]

I'm up i've been waiting for a group

[gusty heron]

Wrapping up a short practice, be ready in a sec then

[glacial light]

No rush it's been a slow day for helldiving

[stoic lotus]

we were on in the morning

[glacial light]

Oh I was likely asleep then

[gusty heron]

Alrighty, how does one go about hosting a private game? Set matchmaking to friends only and shoot you my code?

[glacial light]

Yup friend code

[gusty heron]

#6375-6373

[glacial light]

I will be in activity 2 if you want VC

[gusty heron]

Good copy, be there

[heady halo]

ah this will generate a new one i think whenever you leave the friend-code screen? so you might need to read another one out over voice!

i might also jump in if you have room for one more, but I also might be a bit and jump into the second half of a mission

so dont wait for me!

[gusty heron]

I'm open for more, more is good

[graceful bluff]

When's light gunner again in the rotation

it's marshmallow currently I think?

[gusty heron]

Light gunner is in the shop right now

[graceful bluff]

oh neat

It's honestly probably the outfit I regretted not getting the most

[stoic lotus]

it seems very worth grabbing

I've just been spending all my SC on picking up whatever light armour is in the shop

[cobalt wing]

https://fxtwitter.com/Venommoe/status/1771595749563723821?s=20

[keen zinc]

Lmao bet

You don't need to outrun the Hunter, just the rest of your squad

[glacial light]

Running light armor, I now feel the pain of hunter swarms

[stoic lotus]

simply jump pack away

[keen zinc]

Simply Punish them

Or introduce them to your Senator

[golden ledge]

https://tenor.com/view/senator-armstrong-senator-armstrong-tear-smile-wholesome-senator-armstrong-smile-senator-armstrong-proud-armstrong-smile-gif-25514955

[naive dragon]

Senator my beloved

Six shots have saved my life many times

[blissful sparrow]

i have my Slugger, which is just a big senator

and the brrt pistol does have good hunter clearing actually

[keen zinc]

<@&1206091872716595200> https://discord.gg/CQj8v9zX

hellmire must be liberated

[naive dragon]

Mirehell

[graceful bluff]

Does it though

nothing survives long on it anyway

[glad marsh]

erimlleh

[keen zinc]

i hear a bunch of unpatriotic scuttlebutt in here

come do your duty

[graceful bluff]

I'll be around in a bit

[shy prairie]

We must allow the colonists to pursue their great tradition of fence-smashing

[keen zinc]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1wpuxgutSU

diving: ✅
hell (deep ocean): ✅

[graceful bluff]

why the fuck do people still use the arc weapons

[stoic lotus]

they do not know

[rare nymph]

They are either uninformed or choose not to believe

[graceful bluff]

also is oshaune just bug scotland

[stoic lotus]

it doesn't seem like playing with randoms is great for your health

[undone veldt]

its not

[rare nymph]

It’s not

[meager saffron]

there are a lot of planets that are bug scotland

[graceful bluff]

it felt very draupnir-y the short time I was down there before an arc thrower crashed the host

[alpine seal]

bug draupnir

same biome same modifiers

[stoic lotus]

it has kinda draupnir vibes but it's not as foggy

[rare nymph]

Though getting all the upgrades mean I don’t die inside anymore when randoms lose our samples

[alpine seal]

saw a teammate willingly walk into the path of a hellpod and die, i think the draupnir vets are getting shell shock

[stoic lotus]

I like draupnir even if you can't see anything on it

[graceful bluff]

it's a good planet

[rare nymph]

Bottom text

[keen zinc]

i never play with randos

thats why i am always here

[glacial light]

Same

I do bet the average random doesn't keep up with Helldivers news

[keen zinc]

🙂

[glacial light]

On any media they just boot up the game for an op or 2 and that's it

That's how the majority of most games userbases are

[stoic lotus]

I have like 35 hours I think

[glacial light]

Which is why in game announcements are important

[shy prairie]

yeah i was gonna say

[honest acorn]

Couldn't see the bottom text through the fog sad

[shy prairie]

they've got the infrastructure to give the playerbase messages ingame

[glacial light]

I'm surprised they didn't give an announcement and also disable arc weapons

[alpine seal]

from dev talk i recall patching out arc weapons would take as long as fixing them in the end

since both of them require pushing the update anyway

[rare nymph]

I’m sure it’s nothing important

[stoic lotus]

this nice young man is just proud to represent his home planet

[alpine seal]

on the other hand a news bulletin would be helpful

[glacial light]

The fog is inside the helmet HUD

[stoic lotus]

helldivers constantly vaping

[honest acorn]

That's how the stimms work its not an injection its a fat cloud

[graceful bluff]

That's pretty fogged up

[oblique lotus]

you telling me a bottom sent this text

[keen zinc]

<@&1206091872716595200> ALERT

[undone veldt]

Huh wonder what could have caused that

I’m sure it’s fine

[keen zinc]

we liberated too fast

now hellmire is going to be very resistant

[keen zinc]

Crimsica has been de-liberated

[alpine seal]

huh

thought we had it

ah well, looks like we didn't squash all of them. a little GM fiat goes a long way

[honest acorn]

I love fighting on Crimsica

[undone veldt]

Yah really looks like we’re not making this one

[honest acorn]

lets fucking go

[undone veldt]

Hellmire was already bad

Now it’s even worse

[keen zinc]

the surge has pushed us back

[alpine seal]

so long as our soldiers move off oshaune we should have it

pretty close but not what we need right now

[keen zinc]

im just doing trivials on hell

[keen zinc]

https://www.rxddit.com/r/Helldivers/comments/1bm25dh/from_your_local_hunter_terminid/

[glacial light]

<@&1206091872716595200> Anyone want to Helldive

[keen zinc]

Right as I get off my PC too

[keen zinc]

Another work week begins in the morn, alas.

No Helldiving until next Thursday

Nothing serious anyhow

That just means the rest of you need to fight harder

[forest crater]

(this is targeted towards the image, not the poster)

Somewhat unrelated note, I can finally farm super samples!!!!

I toughed up and beat an Extreme operation today, but then I went EVEN FURTHER BEYOND and beat a Suicide Operation too!

I will admit, however

The suicide missions ended mostly with all of us dying before extraction

[cobalt patrol]

Suicide missions are kinda chill now. I actually prefer diff 8 or 9

[quick crown]

I really like playing on 7 but its a mixed bag because not all of the discord buddies can keep up with 7 Tryin to get em good nuff to get there though

[stone bridge]

<@&1206091872716595200> anyone up to play in ~10

[quick plinth]

sure, ill be there

[stone bridge]

Long as we get 3 or 4 I will be too

[meager saffron]

honkdonk..

[stone bridge]

Poggers

[random socket]

uninstalled, rebooted, and reinstalled to see if its not flickering and losing letters anymore

if anyone has any relevant prayers of the omnissiah or whatever lmk

[unkempt river]

@cobalt patrol's most hated enemy.

They don't just have beef, they have the whole Cow

[random socket]

moo

[shy prairie]

[name of enemy that killed me last] are my most hated enemy (it tends to be hunters a lot of the time)

[unkempt river]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wy-sVTaZRPk&pp=ygUgd2FyIGNhbnQgb2YgbWFycyAod2FyaGFtbWVyIDQwayk%3D

[random socket]

Last mission I died more to the same guy throwing napalm down than anything else

[unkempt river]

Clusterbombs are my most hated enemy

That or the random little bots that are invicible and unkillable without orbital-class damage

[stone bridge]

@meager saffron we in

[cobalt patrol]

Honestly I'm pretty chill with hunters. Generally when they get me it's entirely my own fault

[oblique storm]

https://youtu.be/sGrrgUMhjxc?si=LU7mwAFhrl0fWCI1

[quick plinth]

been trying out the dominator

is there some sort of uh, minimum range?

because otherwise I'm lovin it, oneshots raiders/troopers, fairly accurate, ammo economy is alright

the handling could stand to be a bit better

[unkempt flax]

https://twitter.com/haultrukkz/status/1771506239609917657?t=dv1dfk7T_GqOPGXWEi3C5A&s=19

Boss Haultrukkz (@haultrukkz) on X

Twitter · Mar 23, 2024, 11:56 AM

[graceful bluff]

Meta mis huevos en tu boca

[quick plinth]

is this?

this normal?

[stoic lotus]

seems new

[quick plinth]

idk I never played lower levels enough

[stoic lotus]

oh it's a 2

idk might not be new then

[cobalt patrol]

It's old, but it is usually just one flag

people have been reuqesting the RAISE THE FLAG as a high diff thing

becuase it's funny as hell

[quick plinth]

huh

3 flags?

[quick plinth]

helldive where you have to raise like 6 different flags

[cobalt patrol]

<@&1206091872716595200> anyone interested in divin?

[graceful bluff]

in a bit sure

[junior badge]

Started a few days ago that you'd get more than 1 flag missions.

[cobalt patrol]

I may not be around in a bit, i'm baiscally doing one or two missions

then going to bed

[junior badge]

lol, I was in a mission, started before the personal order refreshed, finished and "personal order completed"

never even saw what it would've been xD

[stoic lotus]

excellent work soldier

[cobalt patrol]

Hunters

[junior badge]

ohhh

[cobalt patrol]

OOkay, lol

died to the scorcher... because i shot a devastator missile as it hit me

[cobalt patrol]

Scorcher into bots is so fucking good

[quick plinth]

yeah, it's great- works as a sort of impromptu stealth weapon as well, since the register where you hit is louder than the firing sound, so potentially you can kill isolated troopers/raiders without alerting the rest of the bots

[cobalt patrol]

You can do similar with the autocannon, it's very funny

[quick plinth]

the autocannon is a stealth weapon, clearly

[cobalt patrol]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIyWuYu-toc

[junior badge]

What would you say do the scorcher and the punisher plasma do differently?

I'm aware that the punisher arcs, very very strongly, which makes it a bit awkward to use, but I haven't gotten to play with the scorcher yet and I'm curious.

(also, just ~100 medals to the scorcher, wheeee)

[quick plinth]

the scorcher is like a short range DMR
works very well against bots, mediocre against bugs
the punisher?
its basically a mini grenade launcher as a primary, and it's ability to just shove medium bugs is hilarious (brood commanders, hive guards ect)
also with a stun grenade and 1 battery/magazine you can kill a charger if you land all the shots below it

[junior badge]

Why short range? Just because of the scope?

Also thanks for the answer!

And yeah, that matches my experience with the PPlas, too.

Although it has a bit of a hit reg issue, ime, where shots go through enemies occasionally.

[keen zinc]

The scorcher is a nice battle rifle if it had more ammo

[junior badge]

Thanks

Also, uh.

What does helldivers.io know that I don't?

Because I'm pretty sure that Mantes used to be another Automaton fight...

[keen zinc]

Mantes is under attack by Automatons

Ignore dissident propaganda

The Illuminate are gone

[stoic lotus]

[orchid pulsar]

<@&1206091872716595200> who wants to help on the automaton front

[junior badge]

I'm down for a few

[quick plinth]

likewise

im just quickly gonna restart

[keen zinc]

[undone veldt]

https://vxtwitter.com/Helldiversmedia/status/1771900000202870872?t=xnJiRAcE3WgJvGAH9hx1Tw&s=19

[keen zinc]

Its fake

Hackers pretending to be AH Staff

[quick plinth]

you know you made it when people start to impersonate you

[undone veldt]

I mean thats still very funny

[keen zinc]

Also that account just reposts other people's content without credit or permission

[undone veldt]

oh that sucks

[rare nymph]

I’m curious: is there any advantage to using the MG sentry vs the gatling sentry?

[keen zinc]

No

They need to halve it's cooldown imo

[junior badge]

Ever so slightly longer uptime vs groups of small stuff. But effectively no.

[rare nymph]

Ok, cause it certainly felt like the gatling is strictly better

[barren iron]

MG does not keep firing when it is changing targets

this is very important for safety

[rare nymph]

Any time I’d see someone bring an MG sentry to a high-level mission I’d be like “what do you know that I don’t”

[barren iron]

and also not wasting ammo

[oblique storm]

The MG turret is also quicker to turn.

If you wanna just drop it down in the middle of bugs to create space it can do it.

[undone veldt]

Safety is only an issue if you’re not a real one

[keen zinc]

Rocket Sentry is actually really nice

It has a LOT of ammo

And better target priority than other sentries

I find it supplements Autocannon Sentry very well

Slap them both down in good vantage points and they are a veritable firebase

[rare nymph]

I really like AC sentry with the improved turn rate upgrade

[keen zinc]

Oh yeah

It's basically a screen clear if you can get it in a good spot and protect it

[glacial light]

https://www.rxddit.com/r/Helldivers/s/nwWlDvULCY

Shrieker corpse one shotting a bile Titan is wild

[stoic lotus]

their ragdoll must have a super high weight value or something

[glacial light]

I hope they fix or address it cause I avoid being close stalker nests

Only taking pot shots now

[stoic lotus]

yeah I do think it needs to be addressed

[glacial light]

It might convert me to autocannons on bugs between stalkers and biles

[heady halo]

or its velocity based or the calculation involves a gravity number in unassumed increments or something

[stoic lotus]

who knows

[forest crater]

I feel like stalkers just need a nerf in general

Either nerf how fast they move or attack, or nerf their health, because once one is close you're essentially fucked and not in the good way

Even more so when there's multiple

[graceful bluff]

MG turret enjoyer here, faster turn rate, doesn't keep firing when turning so doesn't rinse your entire team of idiots, effectively more ammo due to that

And the most important part: you can run it alongside gattling turrets

running both vs bugs makes pouncers way less of a problem

[stoic lotus]

mg turret seems like it would be very useful for shriekers

[graceful bluff]

That too

It might also have a bit more range than gatling? Not sure

[glacial light]

I saw 2 sentries against shrikers in the distant and it was like seeing beautiful AA firing wildly into the air

Likely gatling cause they didnt stop firing in between shriekers

[graceful bluff]

The gatling doing sweeps seems good at first but then you realize those bullets are just going into corpses/terrain

or helldivers

[stoic lotus]

does it seem good

seemed like an explicit downside to me

[naive dragon]

Use the mortar turret instead, then all of your ammunition will go into something. It will be me most of the time but it won't be laying on the ground at least

[stoic lotus]

ems mortar my beloved

[glacial light]

EMS mortar is like a vicious kitten that wants to kill you and tries to but can't

[rare nymph]

I don’t think I’ve ever used the regular mortar

Skipped straight to ems

[graceful bluff]

Another reason I like bringing both is that it basically guarantees that at least one of them is off cooldown when you need it

so you can basically drop one every engagement

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1077802608091209878/1221484582193336350/628947.mp4?ex=6612bf2a&is=66004a2a&hm=5c691ea00f81da4a9d260f720d53628626fbba8f4efc79154d0c77a46c6cc49d&

Shriekers might be a tiny bit overtuned physics wise

[glacial light]

#1204832579287519292 message

Be sure to post source

Anyone want to <@&1206091872716595200>

[heady halo]

definitely plan to dive today, but just got home and am pretty wiped

[quick plinth]

why is everyone bugging

[meager saffron]

https://vxtwitter.com/FrenlyFrenchBoi/status/1771672515590463610

[quick plinth]

a bot planet needs defending!

[stark ether]

defence missions are hell in a not fun way, the will of the community has come to accept its better to lose the planet and retake it

also i think they are trying to lock supply lines to the major order for bugs

[junior badge]

What's the difference? I solo'd a few low-diff missions on Mantes and they were nothing I wouldn't see on the offense either.

And hell, the high-diff mission we did earlier was fine, too.

[keen zinc]

They used to be hellish and unenjoyable

That taste has lasted for many people

[upbeat vector]

They used to be "spawn multiple tanks at once on difficulty 2" hellish

My like, first mission out of the tutorial was a defense mission and I had 3+ hulks and a tank drop in that mission

[burnt vapor]

Initially every op on defensive had a extract personal mission exclusive to defence that had endless hordes attacking you while you tried to get NPCs to a shuttle bay
To my knowledge it is no longer present in every op

This mission type Retrieve Essential Personnel

[stoic lotus]

whenever I've done the civilian missions the hordes have not been particularly endless

they're pretty uneventful

[burnt vapor]

You've probably done the normal version

This is the normal version Emergency Evacuation

[stoic lotus]

oh ok

[burnt vapor]

Yeah the difference is it's only the main objective but you have twice as many civs to escort and have exterminate level spawns happening the entire time

[keen zinc]

It's an Eradicate but you have to protect civilians who die in one hit running headfirst into chainsaws and flamethrowers

It sucks

[burnt vapor]

thankfully it's no longer required

[keen zinc]

Yeah but people still avoid defense like the plague

They need to replace that mission with a new fun one like the TCS silo

And then people will WANT to defend

[burnt vapor]

yeah I don't think it's ever been widely announced that the torture mission is no longer required so people avoid it out of habit

[quick crown]

the Bug defence missions are a nightmare because the map is so twisty and you don't get good sightlines to shoot the bugs

civ extract ones i mean

[naive dragon]

Defense missions are fun because you just all defend the doorway while forcing the NPCs to be unable to leave their spot and repeatedly push the button

Then send everyone at the same time in one convoluted blob and hope your turret is out of ammo

Everyone bring a deployable shield and multiple turrets for added comedy

[keen zinc]

Fun for the bots

[junior badge]

Not only is that mission not always there anymore, it was really only on high diffs where it was a problem. I solo'd that type of mission back then, but only on 1-2 diffs... (edit, because word order matters a lot xD)

[keen zinc]

Most people don't play 1-2

[junior badge]

Yeah, but I doubt that 1-2 were fine, and then 3+ were utterly broken.

And especially at the time, there were a lot of posts about how farming 1s was the most efficient way to play.

[heady halo]

<@&1206091872716595200> anyone down to dive for an hour?

[orchid pulsar]

should be

[graceful bluff]

sure

[heady halo]

hell yeab

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[oblique storm]

The shrieker corpse thing isn't a glitch

It's a feature done on purpose 100%

Because it's literally just how that one guy dies in Starship Troopers

https://youtu.be/RtE3ue3hBhE?si=mL5jBoNFUT1dZY2l

2:45

[meager saffron]

holy shit

[stoic lotus]

idk I think that's just a coincidence

the game already has a physics damage model

[heavy portal]

Can people die from rag doll corpse of a flying bug

[stoic lotus]

yes and if you scroll up you can see the same bug corpse oneshotting one of the strongest enemies in the game

[heavy portal]

Lmao

[oblique storm]

It's coincidence that the starship troopers game added flying bugs that can hit you with their corpses and kill you in exact replicas of a death from starship troopers?

[stoic lotus]

it makes the flying bugs really annoying to fight

[stoic lotus]

yeah

[oblique storm]

Cmahn

[stoic lotus]

because they're melee enemies so they dive bomb you to attack and that means if you kill them you get hit with a fast moving heavy physics object

if it was like scripted damage it wouldn't be killing bile titans

[oblique storm]

I mean it totally would be

[stoic lotus]

why

a bile titan doesn't die to a flying bug corpse in starship troopers

[oblique storm]

They are weighted to specifically cause that death scene to happen

And as a result they kill bile titans

[keen zinc]

That dude WAS a general

[oblique storm]

That's what happened to the guy before Brasch

[stoic lotus]

helldivers is not literally just starship troopers

[honest acorn]

Big physics objects just seem insanely dangerous

I had something send a charger corpse flying and it 1 shot the bile titan it hit in the leg

[shy prairie]

IMO another thing to note is the ST bugs do just like, oneshot decapitate when they aren't dead too.

[stoic lotus]

yeah I've had flying charger corpses instakill brood commanders by smacking them in the face

[undone veldt]

I do definitely think it’s intentional

Just not killing a bile Titan being intentional

That seems like an oversight from the damage model

[quick crown]

I dont like the idea of not being allowed to shoot the enemy flying at you if thats their only attack pattern even for a joke

[graceful bluff]

game is -not- happy tonight

a ton of hard crashes for everyone in that session

[undone veldt]

Yah I had a crash earlier today too

[keen zinc]

Voy isn't being serious

He's jokesing

[keen zinc]

They need to give the Dominator airburst munitions

That'll make it good

[ivory swallow]

https://x.com/fallenspherell/status/1771957060948627724?s=46

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Guys I figured out a way to improve the exosuit

Twitter · Mar 24, 2024, 5:47 PM

[stoic lotus]

[keen zinc]

Well

The community just fell into the most obvious trap in the book and rushed for Omicron

And now Oshuane is getting attacked

Hellmire is losing ground as well

People were theorizing that Omicron would be kicking the bees nest at the start of the last major order

Based on it's supply lines and the assaults that it was supporting

Many people are saying this. We pushed Omicron and now the Bugs are hitting us with a surge.

[oblique storm]

No, I was being serious until the very end there

[keen zinc]

Tactical Command was right, it's an ugly planet, a bug planet, a planet hostile to all life

https://tenor.com/view/trap-its-a-trap-star-wars-admiral-ackbar-gif-5740548

[keen zinc]

Moreover I think Joel will absolutely put his thumb on the scale if we keep pushing Omicron

It's definitely a key planet for the bugs based on it's supply lines

[graceful bluff]

bugs don't use supply lines

only bots and helldivers do

Because the invasion is coming from inside the house

[keen zinc]

Pretty sure they do just from a gameplay mechanic angle

Unless you are suggesting the bugs cannot travel systems and are placed on worlds by other means, which is very seditious thinking

[keen zinc]

Why did they run? Running from Hunters just means they win.

Stand your ground, punch them back.

[rich marlin]

hunters are more afraid of you then you are of them

~Brash tactics tip and definitely not made up by me

[keen zinc]

Also just hosing down scavengers with their Sickle sweeping it like it's a Stalwart, while Hunters gather. Classic error of target priority.

I really hope people don't get Hunters nerfed, they're actually a really good enemy actually capable of handing you Ls.

[barren iron]

nah I kind of agree that what hunters need is their kit to be spread out amongst the rest of the bugs

the rest of the bugs just... don't do anything

[stone bridge]

^

Agreed

[heady halo]

or added to some other bugs AS WELL

[idle hollow]

we just need like

bayonets

or an actual decent melee

then people will stand their ground against hunters

[keen zinc]

Make Warriors faster and stronger

Give them more HP like Berserkers

It's annoying how few Warriors show up when they should be the #1 most common swarm bug

[heady halo]

also take some more leaves out of the Tyranid book, along with the Heirophant Bio Titan-Bile Titan and Crusher Carnifex - Charger

and Stalker-lictor

[stiff pine]

Fuck I want a bayonet now

[heady halo]

i would -

make brood commanders bigger and tougher, or at least have a more upright pose or even glowey bit to stand out in the swarm and able to buff the swarm visibly with glowey phermemone gas energy or something

counter by making the hive guard able to "rear up" and try to position themselves between the commander and helldivers

make EVERY lesser enemy able to either jump as a pack OR have a ranged option with the mini spit

[keen zinc]

We'll probably get em

I think a Hive Commander should buff bugs around them

Giving them speed buffs and unlocking special moves like a leap or charge for Warriors

[heady halo]

i want a sidearm chain bayonet and a support weapon pile bunker bayonet

https://youtu.be/giPnsnWy2a0?t=162

[rapid plover]

there were bayonets in HD1, so maybe

[undone veldt]

I think that’d be cool

Get a armor piercing melee

[heady halo]

i wonder if we will get more tyranid inspired bugs, like a psychic floating brain bug or a giant bile titan sized flying bug, maybe a bile spewer that instead fires swarms of lesser bugs at you, flying/floating "bug mines"

[undone veldt]

Honestly I think a very lightly armored heavy is a sorta unexplored design space for this game

A psychic brain bug that has the same spawn rate as a charger would be interesting

And kinda make some encounters that don’t need as much anti tank

[keen zinc]

I have faith the community will rally to stabilize Hellmire

But Mantes and Oshuane are toast

[alpine seal]

mantes is undeniably lost