Helldivers 2: For Managed Democracy!

[cobalt patrol]

https://old.rxddit.com/r/Helldivers/comments/1bggi1r/when_the_spear_finally_gets_a_lock/

The physics and simulation in this game is truly amazing

[pale remnant]

lmaooo

[stoic lotus]

incredible

big ups to spear users for toiling in the lockon mines

[pale remnant]

It is our burden to shoulder, and very occasionally our ally if we can convice them to do a quick reload :v

[stoic lotus]

🙏

[keen zinc]

Actually it is the cyborgs toiling in the-

I was hoping for new superstore rotations

[stoic lotus]

there is a new one today

or do you mean more new armour

[keen zinc]

More new armor

[stoic lotus]

I picked up the ultralight throwing distance armour and have been surprisingly loving it

[keen zinc]

Oh yeah I love that onen

[stoic lotus]

you can sprint around everywhere and take out bases from really far away by just yeeting airstrikes at them

works well with stun grenades too

[keen zinc]

Yeah I like that armor plus the engineer helmet from the last rotation

[stoic lotus]

I need one more super sample (and a bunch of rares but they're fine to get) to max out my hangar and get that wonderful extra eagle strategem use

[blissful sparrow]

Ultra light throwing armor + drone commander helmet is ultimate drip

[keen zinc]

I don't like drone helmet

[stoic lotus]

I was considering that helmet, since it's in the store atm, but I like the first cutting edge helmet

[keen zinc]

It looks fragile

I like the third cutting edge helmet

Smooth

[stoic lotus]

yeah that one looks neat but I haven't got there yet

I think for the first time I actually have pretty good drip

[keen zinc]

I have been pairing it with TR-117 Alpha Commander and just being an unstoppable future warrior

I've always liked that armor but not the helmet that goes with it

So having a nice neutral helmet with green in the back to match the armor is really nice

[tiny flume]

I've almost got enough supercredits to unlock a battle pass. Which one should I get?

[keen zinc]

Cutting Edge

The Sickle is sick

Steeled Veterans has cool fashion and the Senator revolver but the other guns ain't very good

[stoic lotus]

yeah cutting edge it has good stuff

[keen zinc]

It has a great booster and great primary weapon

[stoic lotus]

people have probably let you know already but if you need some extra super credits you can drop into a difficulty 1 mission and run around looting all the POIs for it

[stoic lotus]

the plasma punisher is neat

[tiny flume]

Ye I have been, thanks thou

[naive dragon]

Helldivers crashing. Verity game files. This is going like "install the whole game" speed.

What happened to unverify all my files

[stoic lotus]

that's just how verify files be

[steady bone]

You basically have to apply for streaming on youtube. If your channel has no issues, should be done in a week at most.

[graceful bluff]

<@&1206091872716595200> Time to flatten bugs

[keen zinc]

Buges

Gonna try to play on my steam deck via mobile hotspot

[stoic lotus]

that sounds like a recipe for suffering

[keen zinc]

I do my duty, Shas'la

[rapid plover]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUr5r4XVoFc

[graceful bluff]

new enemy spotted

[keen zinc]

Monolith

[keen zinc]

I really wish they would give the Bile Spewer variants different names

Annoying that the light armor and medium armor mortar capable bile spewers have the same name

Considering bringing the AMR in bug missions just as Spewer Insurance

AT options can't match their numbers, and the GL will rapidly run out ammo with its wide range of effective targets

[glacial light]

https://www.vxtiktok.com/t/ZTLFQVGFV/

Silo destroying detector towers from a huge range? That looks nice

Reminds me like an EATs version of the spear

[hexed steeple]

i wonder if you can dro pit outside a jammer's range and then use it to explode it

[glacial light]

And if it could be used on jammers that'd be instant pick for me

[keen zinc]

Jesus christo

Hail the Super Patriot Missile

[unreal merlin]

Hell yes?

Can't wait for the whole squad to bring 'em and we alpha strike a large outpost from 2km away

[dusty spruce]

Good god I didn’t expect that thing to have basically infinite range, especially if you can just place the silo and carry the designator until you find a good target

[graceful bluff]

<@&1206091872716595200> Come bug milord

[cerulean sluice]

This will invalidate so many secondary objectives

[keen zinc]

A lot of the leaked stuff seems really op compared to what we have and what we've been getting

[graceful bluff]

09885917

[glad marsh]

Apparently the yellow ones are called nursing spewers, while the green ones are just regular old bile spewers

[keen zinc]

Great. That's not what I'm talking about.

[glad marsh]

Oh...

[keen zinc]

There are literally two variants of the Bile Spewer both called Bile Spewer, a low difficulty one with light armor and no mortar, and a high difficulty one with medium armor and mortar attack.

[glad marsh]

Ah, that's what you mean

[keen zinc]

Gaming

[glacial light]

I imagine it's why it's leaked cause it's not properly balanced yet and they're just playing around with values

But if they keep it that way then it'll definitely be a must pick for bots

[fringe quiver]

Thats untrue

Everyone knows devs don't play their own videogames /s

Except Joel

[glacial light]

You don't need to play a game if you create enough tests /s

[blissful sparrow]

they don't play the game, they just roll dice for stats

[glacial light]

If broke then don't

[blissful sparrow]

i do that every day for our financial software, it keeps you occupied, imagine instead being able to do with the explosion radius of a nuke 😌

[graceful bluff]

<@&1206091872716595200> one more

<@&1206091872716595200> Or rather two more

[keen zinc]

Careful what you wish for

[fringe quiver]

What strategems should I be taking onto lvl 7 difficulties?

I don't think I'm taking the right ones as I'm getting stuck in looping bug breaches

[graceful bluff]

Best tip is stop being detected

[keen zinc]

Keep in mind i am on steam deck

[glacial light]

Against bugs I find you're always fighting, you just got to keep moving when you're not in critical danger

Considering every little bug can summon a breach it's nearly impossible to stop fighting

[fringe quiver]

I can sometimes do that, although I'm having to re-adjust cause I think they adjusted explosion radius of strategems

[glacial light]

Or rather, the amount of time and effort you put into killing every bug is a lot of time wasted you're not doing the objective

[fringe quiver]

also I was not aware bile titans are the fastest bug in the game

[glacial light]

They got the long long legs

[keen zinc]

Your faith in me is astounding

[fringe quiver]

they gotta be apex predators too because holy shit

no downtime after running?
has the inner organics to actually run that speed despite the mass

like if godzilla had that shit the world would be ded in the godzilla movies

[glacial light]

That's why we harvest them for 710

[fringe quiver]

but uhh, I'm only lvl 14 and only have the uhh, base orbital cannon and normal eagle run strategems

hence why I was curious on the stratagems

[glacial light]

Honestly against bugs EATs is goated

I still use it after unlocking everything for bugs

[fringe quiver]

yeah, that's what I was using, but I was also trying to do the flamethrower personal order

although now I'm thinking maybe I should do the personal order separate from normal missions

[glacial light]

I don't remember what anti-bile options are at level 15, but you could run flamethrower and EATs since you just swap them out as needed when you see a bile then pickup the flamethrower after

[fringe quiver]

anti-bile?

[glacial light]

I think laser, railcannon, 110 rockets, are good options

anti-bile titan

[fringe quiver]

oh I thought you were gonna say there was like, anti bile shields to help deal with being one-shot by all the spits

[glacial light]

I found the only "reliable" method to survive is to heavy armor and stim immediately after being hit by bile and by the time the stim takes effect you'll be nearly dead but recover

I also don't know if bile ignores armor it feels like it

[blissful sparrow]

i'm a big fan of EMS strike, allows you to slap it down on a patrol or bug breach and kill them comfortably

[glacial light]

EMS strike seems nice on a team, it has super low cooldown

[blissful sparrow]

You can even slap it down on yourself when you are overrun, bcause it can't kill you, but it does prevent the bugs from attacking you, so you can dive out of it

[glacial light]

I do like EMS mortar on bugs for that reason unless there's spewers

The advantage of ranged weaponry

[blissful sparrow]

yeah, aslong as you can keep it safe it has amazing uptime

[stoic lotus]

for bugs I would recommend guard dog and flamethrower with an orbital laser and your choice of 4th thing

since at level 15 you don't have access to the shield backpack

the stun grenade is also really nice if you have cutting edge unlocked

[rare nymph]

I’ve been converted to bringing the arc thrower for bugs

[stoic lotus]

and my advice is to focus hunters first because they're always the thing that kills you

[rare nymph]

You can even use it against Biles if you have nothing else

[stoic lotus]

that or bile spewers since the two are usually kinda mutually exclusive, at least in large numbers

[keen zinc]

Death and Nalesh are sending Steam Deck me to Hellmire

Cruel

[graceful bluff]

You're really gonna feel the heatn ow

[glacial light]

If you overheat in the game your steamdeck overheats in real life

[strange vine]

the yellow light armor ones are Nursing Spewers, the green medium armored mortar ones are Bile Spewers proper

[graceful bluff]

83389232

[keen zinc]

#1204832579287519292 message

[strange vine]

do you have a screenshot?

[keen zinc]

When I get home I will record evidence just for you

[honest acorn]

Ohh

So that explains why I can headshot some bile spewers with the senator and not others

[fringe quiver]

rip, I just got killed by a stalker through a wall

[graceful bluff]

Yeah there's two types of green ones

and it's really annoying

[glad marsh]

I have to assume the mortar ones just replace all the non-mortar ones at like..
Diff 6?

[honest acorn]

I wish there was some way to know if you’re gonna be on a Bile Map ahead of time since you want different gear

[graceful bluff]

honestly bile artillery should be a mission effect like longer stratagem callins

rather than just being a random thing ontop

[honest acorn]

Bile artillery doesn’t really bother me I just really want something explosive to kill spewers with if they’re spawning in large numbers

But bile artillery is super easy to track and avoid ime

[fringe quiver]

I wish strategems would kill spawning enemies but apparently they don't exist until they're ontop of the map

[unreal merlin]

Autocannon users rejoicing when they see the mission is full of fat targets they can just pop with ease.

[keen zinc]

Did y'all win

[glad marsh]

Grenades are real good against bile spewers

[stoic lotus]

I agree with this, it would be nice to know

[keen zinc]

I just hate that there exist light Armor ones at low difficulty that train new players to do the wrong thing

[glad marsh]

You can get like 4 of them with one impact nade

[glad marsh]

The wrong thing?

[keen zinc]

It's the principle

[stoic lotus]

what's the wrong thing that people do

[barren zephyr]

I miss the Helldivers 1 Springfield with the bayonet attachment

[keen zinc]

Yeah you can kill the light armor ones with regular weapons shooting it in the cephalothorax

[stoic lotus]

seems like it would be a cool add

can you not shoot the other ones in the face?

[barren zephyr]

I saw a few people ran Hell difficulty missions with that rifle in the first game

[keen zinc]

The medium armor ones have medium armor heads

[honest acorn]

You can but need heavier weapons

[keen zinc]

You can only shoot them in the mouth

[fringe quiver]

do non-breaker guns do effective damage against their mouth?

cause when I first ran into one I just shot it in the face and it just died on avg with everything else

[glad marsh]

^

[barren zephyr]

and it had AP ammo btw but you have to load the bullets to the mag individually like a shotgun,

[keen zinc]

And was this on high or low diff

Because that totally works for the 5- ones

[fringe quiver]

and like, to be clear, the breaker might just be better because if you aim at it's face you're likely to just hit it's mouth eventually

lvl 7 for me

[honest acorn]

Breaker has enough spread you probably were hitting the whole head yeah

[barren zephyr]

also I just realized they havent implement the Rumbler mortar yet

[glad marsh]

Augh
I yearn for the tube

[barren zephyr]

best horde killing weapon

although I also accidentally killed my teammates with it quite often too

[glad marsh]

looks at mortar turret
Uhhh yeah sounds about right

But

Imagine

4 players, everyone has a mortar, bombarding a base

[barren zephyr]

YES

big YES

[glacial light]

I'm surprised we don't just have a manual or handheld mortar

[barren zephyr]

the Rumbler is it

[glacial light]

I've never played HD1

[barren zephyr]

Im gonna wait til they add it to the 2nd game

[honest acorn]

I don’t like running more than 1-2 mortars on a team because it gets real hard to track their trajectories

[keen zinc]

The Constitution is definitely going to be added on Liberty Day

Just like in HD1

[glacial light]

I simply don't look upwards

[keen zinc]

Mark October 26th on your calenders

[keen zinc]

Be ready to fix bayonets

[barren zephyr]

the handheld mortar is part of a DLC weapon pack in first game btw

[rapid plover]

tbf, like half the weapons in the first one are

[barren zephyr]

yes

and the vehicles too

(I still suck at riding those bikes btw)

[honest acorn]

Tox thrower is what I really miss

[keen zinc]

Why does everyone think I'm lying about light armor Bile Spewers

I am not crazy

[barren zephyr]

btw you guys are lucky that the tentacles Bug isnt in Helldivers 2 yet

[glad marsh]

Oh yeah

That bugger

Hated that thing

[barren zephyr]

yep

[keen zinc]

It'll be here

[glad marsh]

You think you're safe?
NAY
UNDERGROUND INDIRECT TENTACLE BUG

[keen zinc]

Jump pack chads continuous victory

[keen zinc]

God HD2 is just gonna keep going up huh

[dusty spruce]

I would like to see it return but I imagine it'll get changed somewhat. It somewhat depended on the isometric view to work

[keen zinc]

So much cool shit to draw from HD1

[barren zephyr]

yeah the change to 3rd person required a lot of revisions to the OG HD1 units

[keen zinc]

But they still got all that design framework to bring and it's just Much Content for a long tme

[barren zephyr]

yep

also I hope they change the player tank design in the first game too

that thing was too clunky to use

[keen zinc]

Wrong

I want them to make it even more pancake

I want the space stridsvagen 103c

[barren zephyr]

lol

yeah but stridsvagen 103c had an extra MG

the HD1 tank only had a cannon

[dusty spruce]

I mean, it was more meant to be a SPG/tank destroyer than an outright tank. Big gun with no traverse is the point

[glad marsh]

Ye

[dusty spruce]

*it also had a mg

[barren zephyr]

the best coop vehicle of course is the APC

[glad marsh]

It was a tank destroyer, had it right in the name
I think the MG was controlled by a passenger?

[barren zephyr]

nope

no MG

only the cannon actually

[glad marsh]

Which is already in HD2! (Somewhere)

[glad marsh]

Ohhh I got it in reverse then lol

[dusty spruce]

The MG was an upgrade

[keen zinc]

https://tenor.com/view/cry-about-it-tank-tank-meme-stridsvagn-gif-23706016

[barren zephyr]

yep

the Bastion

reminded me that I really need to use it more

[keen zinc]

I want them to redesign it to be the Indestructible Pancake Tank

[barren zephyr]

most of the time I just bring mech strategems

[barren zephyr]

sounds like fun

[dusty spruce]

I actually do hope it'll be nice and squat, may help to prevent it from being rocket sniped

[barren zephyr]

hopefully the bikes is less clunky in the control too

[keen zinc]

Indestructible from the front

[barren zephyr]

I find the bikes to be really difficult to use

[dusty spruce]

Nah, make it worse to control

[keen zinc]

https://tenor.com/view/tank-swedish-strv-gif-20185239

I love this stupid thing

I would hide them all over in Wargame Red Dragon

[glad marsh]

It's very silly

[keen zinc]

Actually Indestructible from the front

[barren zephyr]

I would let other people ride and me sitting in the turret most of the time tbh cuz I suck at driving it

[glad marsh]

That thing was as hard as an EDF bike to drive

[barren zephyr]

also EXO-48 Obsidian >>> EXO-44

its not optimal but it looks less stupid than its cousins

[dusty spruce]

I didn't much care for the 44 in the first game, it was too unspecialized to be helpful, compared to the Obsidian for Illuminate and Lumberer for Cyborgs/Bugs.

[glad marsh]

Lumberer was sooooo good

[barren iron]

it looks way sillier

I want more interactive stratagems

gimme that one call of duty killstreak that's the chopper gunner

drone killstreak would be cook

cool*

[glad marsh]

The mention of killstreaks just made me realize one of the reasons helldivers is so appealing

Cause you effectively get what are traditional killstreaks in FPS games on command here

[glacial light]

EDF Air Raider my beloved

Leveling half a city on a 15s CD airstrike

But the nice thing about HD2 is you're useful outside of your stratagems

[stoic lotus]

chopper gunner would be neat, but very strong

[glacial light]

Until flying bugs get in

[stoic lotus]

you could maybe have it as an option on reinforcing or something

because being in a tough spot and having the ability to just yeet outta there and kill everything messes with the game a bit too much I think

[glacial light]

Alternative reinforces would be interesting like dropping from a fuel limited glider with guns

Or a hellpod that lands safely but shoots for a but to ad clear the landing zone

[rapid scaffold]

Give me napalm loaded explosive hellpods

[stoic lotus]

it would also turn the reinforce budget into a kind of currency you could spend, creating a tradeoff where you can risk mission success for some potent offensive options

[keen zinc]

My condolences

[glacial light]

Antithematic but reversed engineerec illuminate teleport that causes a minor explosion where you appear from

[honest acorn]

Fire mines kinda

[glacial light]

A hellpod that plants mines near your landing to make it extra dangerous for everyone

[graceful bluff]

I could see chopper gunner being a thing where like in cod you just have to lay on the ground and hope no one finds you while you control it

[glacial light]

Then you can friendly fire yourself

[graceful bluff]

exactly

and you can also not run away from enemies closing in on you

[glad marsh]

I mean
The obvious alt reinforce is just bringing people in on the Pelican

[graceful bluff]

I really want a callin that's just pelican circling from above for like 20 sec

[glad marsh]

I think they said they're thinking of doing something like that?

[graceful bluff]

it's gonna have the same problem as mortar with friendly fire

[glad marsh]

That and spawning some AI helpers

[graceful bluff]

and it'd be great

[glacial light]

A midair rope drop with pelican would be sick

You can shoot from the side of pelican then drop down on a rope after a timer with a onehanded firing

As an alt reinforce

[stoic lotus]

fast-roping my beloved

gotta be one of the best british inventions

[graceful bluff]

If you don't have rope burns did you rope fast enough

[stoic lotus]

you have to do it with gloves on

[graceful bluff]

brave of you to expect the gloves to survive

[stoic lotus]

they do

the rope's made of nylon

[modest fiber]

its lé tonk

[rich marlin]

Me: I'm feeling confident, let me go into a Challenging mission alone
Immediately gets ganked by a charger

[unreal merlin]

EAT-17 to the rescue. I'm kind of addicted to it right now.

[glad marsh]

EATs are my go-to AT option against bugs

Autocannon is what I use for bots

[keen zinc]

Does the increased limb health armor affect chest limb

🤔

[honest acorn]

https://youtu.be/7XvsSQEx7Z0

It's nice to see some numbers here

[honest acorn]

Subjectively I think so, I actually don't remember getting chest bleeds at all in that armor

But I don't get them that often anyway

Some interesting notes so far is that white hitmarkers seem to represent like 60% damage loss and the breaker has more AP than the basic liberator

Oh huh, the sides of nursing spewers have worse armor than the top

Still a very poor choice for a lot of weapons since its explosive weak or something

[stoic lotus]

grenade (including GL) to the side of the abdomen is the best way to kill bile spewers, you can usually arc it past their legs

good intel that the white markers are reduced damage tho

[honest acorn]

Yeah explosives dispatch spewers really well

[graceful bluff]

I've been thinking about the liberator penetrator for bugs recently

since it pens bile spewer heads

with the bonus of the hive guards too

[dusty spruce]

S'why I'm excited for more explosive weapons ||like those in the leaked warbond||.

Tell me how it is, if you do. I normally bring the arc thrower versus Terminids, which tends to kill spewers really fast since it's a 2-3 shot depending on angle

[stoic lotus]

I think someone in the squad having a penetrator seems useful

it would open you up to take a recoilless or something to kill chargers

since you don't need a support weapon for the chunkier guys

[honest acorn]

This video is making me look at it a lot more

Though I think the slugger often outshines it around bugs

Since you don't really need its good optic and excellent ballistics for enemies which don't shoot back

[stoic lotus]

it at least occupies the niche of being unlocked quite a bit earlier than the slugger

[dusty spruce]

Honestly I say the pen may be better against bugs than the slugger. I love my slugger but it struggles against large groups

The liberator penetrator may be better for that

[stoic lotus]

it's really neat being able to have these kind of discussions about a game

[honest acorn]

That's reasonable it does shoot real fast and have a good ammo economy

[quick plinth]

does the blitzer get thought of by constantly empty for yall else?

[honest acorn]

You mean it always reads as low ammo?

[quick plinth]

it's always reading as empty in the sense that the game is always telling me to switch off it as if there's no ammo rather than reload

[stiff pine]

I like the penetrator but large groups with it are just constant sprint and reload fest because the mag size is so small

[quick plinth]

and the damage is too low compared to it's standard iteration ( I don't see what niche it fills)

[stoic lotus]

hive guard and spewers

[rich marlin]

I have been converted

[quick plinth]

so instead of taking a stratagem wepaon that can easily dispach them I'll replace my safety blanket (your primary that you use to keep yourself safe from chaff) with something that can?

[rich marlin]

EATs is the best

[stoic lotus]

it frees you up to take something else as your stratagem weapon

I think it makes more sense in the context of a team

[quick plinth]

right- but most stratagem weapons can deal with them tho

[stoic lotus]

you can always pistol the chaff too

[keen zinc]

I'd rather use the senator for hive guards

And grenades for Spewers

[quick plinth]

too much of a limited ammo supply

[stoic lotus]

the machine pistol on semi auto does good work

the senator seems handy but also you won't catch me getting the steel veterans pass any time soon

[quick plinth]

yeah

not enough good stuff in it

[stoic lotus]

I don't think most people have it unlocked

[quick plinth]

unless they buff the weapons that are inside steeled veterans

[honest acorn]

idk turn off autoswitch?

[quick plinth]

I don't see many using their gameplay acquired SC

[honest acorn]

I've never had the game try to switch weapons on me

[quick plinth]

oh no- it doesn't switch them for me

it just keeps telling me to on screen

[honest acorn]

Ah, I turned off the hints because they're buggy as shit

So I never see that

[stoic lotus]

especially when cutting edge is right there now

[quick plinth]

though

to be fair

I think by the time the next pass warbond comes around people might have another 1k swimming around to get StVet as well?

[graceful bluff]

My main problem with the slugger is that it really does not like knife fighting

it's too unwieldly for it

[meager saffron]

with the increased focus on hordes the slugger's hard ceiling of 1 kill every mouseclick is a little rough

[graceful bluff]

The libpen is also helped by overpen being a thing

[keen zinc]

Punisher moment

[graceful bluff]

you can just go through like 3 scavengers with one shot I feel

[wide mural]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPW_HeOHA1E

[modest fiber]

<@&1206091872716595200> am once again asking for more dudes

[keen zinc]

Im bout ta be off the winda

[rare nymph]

I managed to grind for both Steel Vet and Cutting Edge

Though I wish Steel Vet’s guns were better

I had high hopes for the Dominator

[stoic lotus]

yeah they could do with some love for sure

[honest acorn]

I like the dominator

They just oughta make it actually explode

[barren iron]

yeahy

it needs a small splash radius

[dusty spruce]

It is lacking the oomph that the Supressor used to bring

[barren iron]

does helldivers actually do fragmentation?

like, when there are explosions is there shrapnel?

[keen zinc]

Yes

[honest acorn]

Depends on the explosion I think

[keen zinc]

I have seen fragmentation dome someone

[rare nymph]

I find the jet moves at just the right speed to ensure I miss most shots

[barren iron]

that would be very cool if the dominator turned enemies killed by it into shrapnel...

[honest acorn]

I’m don’t think it does I think it just needs to fuck up explosive weak points

[barren iron]

thats true

[rare nymph]

That plus the handling and damage means I’m generally better off bringing a slugger

[stoic lotus]

I want the dragon's breath shotgun to be good because dragon's breath shotgun

[honest acorn]

I actually really like it

I think it’s the second best weapon in steeled vets

[rare nymph]

I like it, though I wonder if that’s just cuz I forced myself to use it a lot

[honest acorn]

(Senator takes first)

[stoic lotus]

yeah the senator seems actually useful

does it stagger bots if you shoot them in the face

like devastators

[rare nymph]

I only switched off of breaker incendiary for bugs when I got the spray&pray

[honest acorn]

It doesn’t stagger chainsawmen but I think it does regular devs

[stoic lotus]

so like a punisher lite

I guess it's more comparable to a little slugger

[honest acorn]

More like a slugger lite yeah

[quartz cloak]

I mean, I like the punisher, though I do always run it with the recoil reduction armour.

Mostly because I find the Slugger's reload a bit too clunky and they kill roughly the same things.

[honest acorn]

Same but it does not compare to anything else in terms of stagger

[stoic lotus]

I used the punisher for a while, just swapped to the sickle for variety more than anything

[honest acorn]

It blasts people back so far

[stoic lotus]

I really like the stagger on it, so useful to just be able to stunlock devastators with your primary

like they can't do shit

[rare nymph]

I really want to get the sickle but I’m saving for the Champion of the People set

[honest acorn]

I like how it pushes brood commanders back like 10 feet

[dusty spruce]

The slugger is the ultimate breathing room weapon. It gets anything big out of my face, and snipes things surprisingly well.

It seems to kill hunters even if it just clips them, which is also really nice

[honest acorn]

That is nice

I’ve been using the blitzer and scythe for bugs lately

[oblique lotus]

I quite like the plasma punisher

the crowd clear is nice and I've only killed myself a couple times

plus it tears scout striders to shreds

[wide mural]

yeah anything that explodes just knocks them right off their stupid high chairs

[meager saffron]

my favourite thing about scout striders is tasing them with the arc thrower and seeing them jump out of their chairs like a looney tunes cartoon

[dusky solar]

Slugger goated

If you ever want to feel like a god, run bug 5s with slugger / GL / jetpack / orbital rail / your choice of armor killer

You can solo breaches all day, kill entire patrols for no alert, just find a high spot and start nuking

[stoic lotus]

is the power of the jetpack just being able to stand on tall rocks

[quick plinth]

exemplary service getting those samples @keen zinc

[keen zinc]

I did all I could

[quick plinth]

also sorry about the blitzer

[keen zinc]

I felt mad football energy juking the horde at the end

Thx for the game

[dusky solar]

And going REALLY REALLY FAST down hills

Generally its best use is making fall damage not exist

You can jetpack off of any height and the pack will still slow you down for a 0 damage landing

[modest fiber]

you're doing your part!

[honest acorn]

You can also cross (some) water gaps with it

[final frigate]

hmm I'm not getting the right dopamine outta this
randos aren't as fun as they are in drg and my friends aren't playing as much as I expected

[stoic lotus]

the water crossing strat we had this morning was one of us running into the lake and me yeeting their respawn beacon to the other side with servo assist

[keen zinc]

And leap small buildings in a single bound. And fly really far from high ground. And assault Automaton bunkers directly. Bypass choke points. Escape dead ends.

[oblique lotus]

pnet has a very active crowd rn so that could be a way to find a group

[keen zinc]

Stand on top of objective stuff

[stoic lotus]

the recharge on the jetpack feels really slow tho

[keen zinc]

Yeah, feel free to throw out the @ for the Helldivers role

[keen zinc]

That's why you learn to shmoove with it

[final frigate]

aight I guess that's what it's for

[keen zinc]

Yeah

I play almost exclusively jump pack, usually light armor

Punisher, senator, impacts, basically always

I am inzane

[stoic lotus]

after it showed up in the super store rotation today I picked up the super light servo assist armour and really enjoyed it

[keen zinc]

I cannot play any other way. This shit makes me feel like a lightning bolt.

[keen zinc]

That is currently what I am rocking actually

[stoic lotus]

perhaps I will become a jump pack maniac in due course

[keen zinc]

Legionnaire and Light Gunner are my go to

[final frigate]

one problem I had specifically today is a -1 strategem mission
that shit was awful

[keen zinc]

Both provide ubiquitous booosts to survival in all scenarios

[final frigate]

we kept getting tanks and dreadnoughts

[keen zinc]

Though I prefer light gunner for bots cuz armor

Bugs limb you a lot, Bots tend to just shoot you dead

[stoic lotus]

I have also been really enjoying the shield pack

it saves you from having to stop and retreat and stuff when you're getting got by bugs

[keen zinc]

I tried out the shield pack earlier since I'm playing on my steam deck and I can thoroughly say it is easy mode

I don't like it

[glacial light]

Oh boy will they shoot you dead, rocket devastators, bruiser hulks, cannon towers can one shot one you. It's why I love heavy armor and shield against bots

[keen zinc]

It is WAY too forgiving and it makes my brain angry

[stoic lotus]

[keen zinc]

I must live on the edge

[glacial light]

I do like forgiveness

[keen zinc]

I must fly

[rare nymph]

I tried legionnaire today and really like servo assist

[glacial light]

And living near the center
And being on ground

[stoic lotus]

servo assist is way better than I was expecting

[rare nymph]

Makes me wanna get the heavy servo assist armor for bots

[keen zinc]

Legionnaire + the new grenadier helmet is fashion as hell for me rn

[stoic lotus]

the ability to snipe bases with an eagle airstrike is wonderful

[glacial light]

I started off playing with heavy servo assist and it was great

Missions go by like at least 5 minutes faster on average with a good servo clear nests and fabs

[rare nymph]

First thing I did was yeet an impact into a bug hole from the other side of a heavy nest

[glacial light]

Cause of a lot of little things you save time on running to the base, teammates can focus on objectives while you clear, you can yeet spawns closer to deathpoints while being further

And that 30% is just enough to be able to avoid detection and run for it, I do miss it sometimes

[stoic lotus]

switching to ultralight yeet armour and a shield pack feels like playing a different game

[glacial light]

I never got light armor cause I do like standing out in the open and playing aggressively

Aggressive but not smart aggressive

[keen zinc]

I play that way with light

[final frigate]

I've got the padded light armor so I'm fast and a dumbass

[keen zinc]

@quick plinth @modest fiber @graceful bluff just saw me put the jukes on a entire horde of bugs including 2 bile titans and chargers

[keen zinc]

[meager saffron]

I only really like the shield on light because I fucking despise getting oneshot by rockets

[glacial light]

I like being the one running towards a rocket devastators without cover to attract it's attention from my teammates that'd get one shot, taking a rocket or 2 and standing back up ready for more

[stiff pine]

I have been converted to the Cult of Spear

[keen zinc]

My defensive maneuver is to break the enemys ankles

[stoic lotus]

you are god's strongest target dummy sevens

[modest fiber]

the spear is my beloved, after Eagle 1

[meager saffron]

-evangelion

[keen zinc]

The Punisher lets me bully Devastators

[final frigate]

I miss the mech, it let me do so much dumb shit

[keen zinc]

No no silly robot you don't get to play today die of cringe

[stiff pine]

also visual proof you can lose the pelican

😦

[keen zinc]

RIP

[final frigate]

F

democracy dies in AA range

[honest acorn]

How does this happen?

[meager saffron]

F

[stoic lotus]

it has to take a really high amount of damage right

[keen zinc]

Man I am still pumped at juking the entire termanid swarm, grabbing the samples, and getting out with everyone else dead

[glacial light]

I've lost the pelican to a bile titan once

And to something in bots, Amko was there for that one

[keen zinc]

I wish I could've recorded that

Steam Deck sorrow

[honest acorn]

I dropped a cluster strike right on the pelican once and it was fine

[glacial light]

It looked fine except in both cases the engines were on fire

[final frigate]

can it die after takeoff

[glacial light]

And you can freely move inside the back but it won't trigger any animation, the mission still went on as normal

[stoic lotus]

doubtful

[glacial light]

I don't think stratagems, pcs, or npcs can harm it, I think it's usually due to physic glitches

[rare nymph]

I once had the pelican glitch into the ground

[final frigate]

try 4 500 megaton bombs on it at once

just to see

[rare nymph]

On my friends first mission, no less

[glacial light]

So like a bile titan can mess up it's animation and push it slightly into the ground and cause it wild physics glitch it just breaks

But not lke a bile titan can spew acid on it to harm it

I'm sick but I feel like doing my democratic duty

[keen zinc]

Happened to me once

First time on steam deck it did it

Worried me

[quick plinth]

I also saw you run into a Gatling barrage seconds after it started right in front of u

[keen zinc]

It missed a bug I had to kill it

Democracy NEEDED me to attack

[graceful bluff]

They really need to fix drop pod killing

[keen zinc]

They need to make it so I can actually use the power steering I paid for

So annoying when it just doesn't let me do anything

[glacial light]

<@&1206091872716595200> I am once again requesting helldivers

[glad marsh]

Will probably be on within the hour myself

Assuming you don't get fully reinforced sooner than that

[glacial light]

Maybe i'll be on personally for like 2.5 hours depending on how i'm feeling

[graceful bluff]

https://vxtwitter.com/FurinMaikeru/status/1769398981233107366

[sinful bay]

It is good?

Looks very dope

[glacial light]

Yes if you like ultralight armor and the ability to be a stratagem mortar

[rare nymph]

I quite liked it, at least for the one mission I managed to play today

[glacial light]

Ideal for hit and run nest/fab clearing

[sinful bay]

excuse enough to buy it,thank ya -runs

[quick plinth]

unfortunately- for me I have light armors I like better and I already have my stratagem throw locked in with the default throw distance

[rare nymph]

Honestly, the one thing I’m worried is that it’ll mess up my throws, but then again I still manage to consistently undershoot my stratagems

So it’s not like there’s anything to mess up lmao

[keen zinc]

[keen zinc]

Extremely

[keen zinc]

Trust me being able to huck a deathball 70m is a big deal

[rare nymph]

Oh for sure

[keen zinc]

You can be a genuine bastard to the bots just running around hucking strikes at them outside of their ability to return fire

[glacial light]

It has a neat breakpoint where you can throw a stratagem and they won't be able to pinpoint you despite seeing the red beacon and then you can run before they notice

[honest acorn]

I always fuck a few up when I put on or take off throw armor

[glad marsh]

Hmm
Actually not feeling it right now, I'll probably stay off
Sorry Sevens :(

[keen zinc]

I'll be home from work in approximately one hour and fourty five minutes

[ionic holly]

Same, its gotten to the point i just stick to my servo limbs

[merry cosmos]

I mean that's true yeah

[dusty spruce]

Does Fori Prime have a tileset we've not seen before?

[honest acorn]

Which one is fori prime??

Did it just open up?

[dusty spruce]

Opened up when Estanu got conquered

I mean liberated

Tremors but not high heat

[honest acorn]

Oh sick

[cerulean sluice]

any <@&1206091872716595200> down for a dive or two?

[barren iron]

I would love to see a stratagem launcher

like you equip the weapon (maybe a secondary or something), input the stratagem, then you have to load it into the weapon

a cost effective alternative to a laser designator

(it is not cost effective)

[stone bridge]

Rifle grenade (scuffed)

[barren iron]

OH SHIT

I want underbarrel attachments

that would be really cool

[stoic lotus]

bayonet would be nice

[honest acorn]

https://youtu.be/6ELUXUf5A1U

[glacial light]

https://www.rxddit.com/r/Helldivers/s/q58nqfoHuh

[stoic lotus]

I wouldn't know either bud

[honest acorn]

lmfao

[quick plinth]

that's one helluva trip

[honest acorn]

the bursting mushrooms are so funny

[stone bridge]

They're so good

[golden ledge]

So Ion Storms suck

Becasue they also turn off your radar/minimap

[honest acorn]

they're so pretty during slow moments

I like how they also silence the soundtrack

[sinful bay]

I think is bugged

[honest acorn]

bug on the right

[sinful bay]

AAAAAAAAAAAA

[stoic lotus]

bug, 50 metres, left

fuck me I am so terminally bad at left and right I literally got it wrong while looking at the correct direction written out in front of me

[sinful bay]

it got stuck there and we just abandoned the mission a well

[keen zinc]

I am 30 mins out

[keen zinc]

current fashion

[autumn plover]

vibe

[dusty spruce]

That the helmet that was on the superstore yesterday or the helmet from steeled veterans?

[autumn plover]

i hope we get the ability to recolor

cuz i love the robo arm body but the colors dont do much for me

that and i want to be obnoxiously pan flag colored

[velvet pollen]

what u think the tube running from the chest to the sleeve does

Id make a joke Abt tactical armpit sniffing but I don't want ppl to get the wrong idea about me 😰

[stoic lotus]

that's the throwing assistance I guess

helps you chuck good

[glacial light]

It's the gene modding capabilities of eagle sweat

[keen zinc]

its attached to a tank under the arm

probably a rebreather

[keen zinc]

superstore, ce-titan

[glacial light]

Anyone up to make another group? I've got a mission or 2 worth of time

[dusty spruce]

I think I've got some more in me as well, if you can give me a couple of minutes

[glacial light]

I'll be in HA

[shy prairie]

the ssc hangout group just lost 2 peeps so perhaps you'll want to merge

[azure pewter]

i feel very fashionalbe

feels like pilot titanfall

<@&1206091872716595200> i need my helldivers too

[tall nova]

damn I wasn't expecting to like Helldivers at all, but then a few friends were playing it so I picked it up, and I ended up playing for 8 hours straight

what is this game

[glad marsh]

Fun

[unreal merlin]

Arrowhead knows how to make fun games and they kinda knocked it out of the park with the transition to 3rd person shooter, somehow

[oak crow]

same here!

i got it, thinking i'd just play it because of my friends and uh

i then proceeded to play it from 10:00 PM to roughly 4:30 AM

needless to say, def a game i enjoy

[keen zinc]

my playstyle:

https://coh2.win/sites/default/files/2020-05/Icons_portraits_unit_soviet_shock_troop_s_portrait.png

[barren zephyr]

Did you try the 1st one yet?

HD1 walked so that HD2 could run

Really one of the best sleeper hits of a game out there on Steam

[granite rivet]

HD2 didn't run though, it repeatedly dived prone right into the dropship and into orbit

[turbid tapir]

Hell divers 1 is so fun

[cobalt patrol]

It's on a big sale currently too

[tall nova]

Never even heard of HD1 before HD2 came out. I think I'm gonna pass on it since 2 is what everyone is playing

And I only have so much time to give to Democracy

[turbid tapir]

It's a twinstick rather than a third person shooter

but pretty much everything else is similar

[oblique lotus]

the transition from top down did a lot

but it is fun

[tall nova]

Honestly nothing quite compares to finding yourself under a Bile Titan, slamming an orbital strike stratagem at your feet, and running like hell. That happened yesterday and I'm still riding the high

Also in my group I've become the danger close guy

[oblique lotus]

something worth bearing in mind is that engagement ranges in HD1 are far shorter than they are in HD2 because you physically cannot see as far

[rapid plover]

I was originally wondering if the perspective shift would make things easier, but the increased chaos from not being able to watch the whole screen makes it a lot harder

[keen zinc]

i loved helldivers 1 a lot

and me and my friends were looking forward to hd2 ever since announcement

and it is by far one of my favorite games of all time

probably not gonna rank above fallout new vegas or jurassic park operation genesis but

its up there

[glacial light]

I've never even heard of Jurassic park operation genesis

[final frigate]

<@&1206091872716595200> alright I've got an hour or so

[glacial light]

https://www.rxddit.com/r/Helldivers/s/bPjdP8uFc8

The legendary brood charger

[glad marsh]

Oh no

They're evolving

..through some strange biological fusion??!!

They really do hate freedom and independence

Look at them
Joining together

[ionic holly]

Why do i remember that being an adult swim thing

[rich marlin]

Its Sunday night but who knows <@&1206091872716595200> anyone wanna bug hunt with me

[cobalt patrol]

Not now, currently, sorry! I'm doing some solo stuff in between trying to room clean and do food and shit

[barren zephyr]

https://media.tenor.com/ZGSpjWBwsBYAAAAM/zaku-omg-gtfo.gif

Which one of you is the Zaku in the hidey hole?

[undone veldt]

The more I use it the more I think the punisher is the best stun tool for bots in the game

Genuinely I need nothing else to handle berserkers and demolishers

It won’t kill them fast but god it will not let them shoot me back

[honest acorn]

Plasma punisher has great stagger

If you can hit consistently

Which is admittedly hard

[undone veldt]

It’s also magazine fed instead of single shot right?

[honest acorn]

Yeah has 12 8 shot magazines

[undone veldt]

That’s pretty good

Though I think for bots I prefer single shot loaded

Just because being able to quickly stop and fire when running for jump pack dudes or rockets is so nice

[rotund marten]

I really do not get on with the plasma punisher

doesn't really have the damage output, even if it can keep going forever

should try it on bots more though

[undone veldt]

It seems to at least handle the small bots pretty well

[unreal merlin]

I think it's much more of a bot weapon than bugs.

[undone veldt]

Like I’m pretty sure I’ve heard people say it one shots them

[unreal merlin]

"oneshots raiders" isn't a very high bar I feel, but it's still a very useful one

not spending 4-6 shots on chaff enemies is a good time saver

[undone veldt]

Yah but it’s one of those pretty important break points

Just because raiders are unfortunately rather deadly when you’re distracted with demolishers and up

[unreal merlin]

i'm probably just overbiased from all my time using a scorcher on them

[honest acorn]

It’s pretty good for breakpoints, one shots raiders and troopers and commissars even with the splash

2 shots machine guns

1 shots scout walkers

Needs 4-6 for devastators or chainsawmen but stun locks them

I haven’t really tried it on tank hulk weak points

I suspect it’s not great though

[unkempt river]

<@&1206091872716595200> Feet first into danger.
Playing some

[stone bridge]

I'll be around in a bit

[oblique lotus]

I like the plasma punisher into bugs

it massively staggers anything brood commander or smaller and outputs surprisingly high damage into chargers

[stone bridge]

<@&1206091872716595200> need more divers in HA Hangout

(I'm gonna take out my bins and be on myself)

[cobalt patrol]

@stone bridge @unkempt river Will join you Soon TM

I'm just gonna walk a pupper, so about half an hour?

[unkempt river]

@cobalt patrol you are muted and deafened, just fyi

[stone bridge]

[cobalt patrol]

`Yes, see my above message ya goob 😛

[unkempt river]

I saw the message. Just watned to make sure it was intentional

[cobalt patrol]

It would be very silly to join and not deafen myself when i'm going afk

[fringe quiver]

wait

can you blow open the dual button doors that require 2 people?

[honest acorn]

I don't think so

I incidentally dropped a 500kilo on one once and it didn't change

[quick plinth]

do you think they might increase the level cap later on?

[honest acorn]

Honestly I have no idea iirc they never did in HD1

[quick plinth]

what was the level cap there?

[honest acorn]

50

[quick plinth]

huh-

also I'm maxed out on common and rare samples

ArrowHead pls increase max stack

[honest acorn]

https://helldivers.fandom.com/wiki/Ranks_(Helldivers)

[quick plinth]

(req slips too while they're at it)

[honest acorn]

Different names though

[stiff pine]

just do DRG and prestige

[honest acorn]

Prestiging would make sense to me

[fringe quiver]

what about the ones with no control panels?

[honest acorn]

You mean the buried shipping container looking ones?

[fringe quiver]

ye

they look like they're blowing up when I drop an eagle run on them and then they have click clacks inside

[honest acorn]

oh yeah those can be blown open

any explosive weapon except the plasma punisher and dominator opens them

also incendiary grenades and the slugger for some reason

[quick plinth]

arc thrower can too

[honest acorn]

oh neat

maybe its a specific level of armor pen that matters?

Since the slugger and incendiary have very high penetration even though they don't explode

But the dominator's penetration is similar to the slugger's

[dusky solar]

Has anyone experimented seriously with mechs?

I'm considering practicing bug 9s with one as a backstop to keep deaths from cascading out of control

[honest acorn]

They're pretty solid

[dusky solar]

For example, too many heavies and all AT is on cooldown? Drop in one mech, which has 14 EATs

[honest acorn]

Because of the high cooldown and limited uses you need to be strategic with using them

[dusky solar]

Idk if anything else gives you as many dead heavies at once as a mech

[honest acorn]

But they arrive very quickly

and fight very hard while moving

I think they're generally worth bringing once you know their idiosyncrasies

Like how to face their armor and not blow yourself up and such

[pale remnant]

The other nifty thing about mechs is the dropship kicks ass while its in the air, the cannon on it is really nasty

Makes me wish there was just a loitering gunship stratagem

[copper crest]

What an amazing last words

[meager saffron]

how in the fuck

[blissful sparrow]

not the first time they has managed to miss the door

[cobalt patrol]

Just FYI, i'm a They, not a he.

[blissful sparrow]

oops, sorry, corrected!

[stone bridge]

Apparently stun grenades can actually affect bile titans

Holy shit

I say apparently, I just did it before

[cobalt patrol]

They sure can!

[stone bridge]

These things are incredible

[meager saffron]

it's crazy

stasis 2

[stone bridge]

The best part is?

I dunno if they're ever gonna get nerfed due to how comparitively unpopular they'll be

[honest acorn]

if it can't kill its NOT good

[stone bridge]

Pure CC nade, no instant gratification like impacts, can't destroy factories or bug holes

Most people are gonna put it in the bin

Then there's Grenade Launcher Jones out here busting heavies like Scott Morrison takes holidays

Frequently and carefree

[stone bridge]

Yup lmao

[honest acorn]

I was experiementing with eagle smoke recently

And its really nice for successfully running away

[stone bridge]

I haven't had much success with it

Should you throw it directly on top of you? At the enemy?

Very prepared to admit this is a skill issue

[honest acorn]

I tend to throw it a little ahead of me and run through it

[stone bridge]

Ah okay!

I'll try that

[honest acorn]

It's also helpful in holding actions to throw in the general direction of bots since they don't seem to like shooting through it

ofc it also makes it hard for you to shoot through

[autumn plover]

quite like this look ngl

[stone bridge]

Thermal scope when

[autumn plover]

though im vaguely sad that the bionic arm body has sorta i feel mid traits?

like not terrible by any means but i can recognize im sacrificing utility for my love of bionics lol

[honest acorn]

I think throwing arm armor is pretty solid

Especially in conjunction with a jump pack or dive you can throw strat balls so far enemies don't aggro

[pale remnant]

Yeah, throwing arm is super useful. Yoinking airstrikes at bot bases or bug holes from a safe distance is really handy

[shy prairie]

Injuries seem like one of the more arcane mechanics to me, hard to get like, a solid read on the extra limb health

[honest acorn]

I think it basically does 2 things, makes it less likely that you'll get a limb break, and I think reduces the "crit rate" from hitting multiple hitboxes

Also makes "chest breaks" less common I think

[autumn plover]

fair

ultimately i know its not a big deal and its valid to just dress up in what i like lol

btw unrelated but did that weird bug with aiming as toggle ever get fixed?

[cobalt patrol]

I think they're actually pretty well balanced, honestly

Like they have a very distinct set of strengths BUT they require you to warp your loadout around them to compensate for their weaknesses

whcih is great!

[stone bridge]

That's a fair shout

[cobalt patrol]

Like i tried running them with railgun, and it's horrible, you absolotuey have to commit to somethign explosive, dieally auto or GL

just so you can blow up nests and factories without relying on strats

[junior badge]

I wonder how that'll change with the new explosive options - from the crossbow to the grenade pistol.

[daring monolith]

Grenade pistol sounds like it’ll be very very good purely because it blows up fabricators and bug holes.

Which means you might not need as much additional stuff to do that with depending on reload speed

[junior badge]

Yup, exactly. I think that'll massively up the value of smoke and stun grenades, because you won't need them as much.

[blissful sparrow]

i think it'll be more effective in that regard for bots than bugs

bot bases only have a few fabricators anyway

but bugnests have so many bugholes, if the grenade pistol is your only way to close them you'll likely run out

so there it will be a nice supplemet

[stone bridge]

Notably, from the leaks, the 'nade pistol only resupplies 2 ammo per box out of the 8 it has in reserve

[cobalt patrol]

Basically an extra set of grenades then?

Interesting

<@&1206091872716595200> Who wants to manage some democracy?

[stone bridge]

I can a bit later

[shy prairie]

Divers has been vexingly unstable, I'll have to pass 😭

[unkempt river]

<@&1206091872716595200> Freedom Never Sleeps, so why are you??!!

[unkempt river]

0382-9812

[candid finch]

https://fixvx.com/TRAPPANCAKE/status/1769372485126865342?s=20

[cobalt patrol]

19527603

[copper crest]

@civic apex

[civic apex]

yes

[sinful bay]

Protect him for ultimate

DEMOCRACY

[civic apex]

Deploy meee

[glacial light]

Biological fusion? A cheap trick to make weak terminids stronger

[barren iron]

they aren't quite EATs but yeah

[cobalt patrol]

That moment where you have to figure out if it's a dragon ball z or Steven universe quote.

[keen zinc]

Gamers

Is it possible to fit two people on a mech

Can we get a weapon team on top of a mech

Recoilless or Autocannon

[quick crown]

Yeah but you slide off if you don't walk at a crawl

[blissful sparrow]

its a bit glitchy
Basically the physics is strong enough to keep you on the mech just fine
But the issue is if there a bit of desync your client will see it is no longer on top, so it'll fall down which will tell the server you are falling down

[keen zinc]

I know one person can stay on decently

But two people for assisted reloads is not tested

But imagine the power

A mobile recoilless rifle platform

[blissful sparrow]

Assisted Autocannon on a mech

just full auto it

[keen zinc]

Unstoppable

[undone veldt]

Honestly do hope they eventually make an actual like, gun platform mech

[keen zinc]

New mech: no guns just a large platform on top for three people to stand and operate a team weapon with a supply pack

[undone veldt]

One with a ladder on it for a second person to hop on and man a machine gun or something

[blissful sparrow]

the Buggy will have a top mounted MG or grenadelauncher, i'm looking forward to that

[keen zinc]

New backpack: it's a step stool you can stand on to master blaster with your teammate

[blissful sparrow]

i want to drive by bugnests

[keen zinc]

Mecha shiva

[undone veldt]

Also in my experience they’re great for bugs but terrible for bots

With bugs there’s only so many ranged enemies and most of them are big enough that it’s easy to point them out from a crowd and fire rockets at them

But with bots there’s just to many rockets

And it’s impossible to dodge them in the mech

[keen zinc]

Yeah it's just too tall a profile for such a well rounded faction like the bots

[orchid pulsar]

hey anybody wanna play?

[keen zinc]

@ the role

If you wanna assemble a squard

<@&1206091872716595200> a soap wizard is assembling a squad in ISP-N Hangout

Fight for democracy in my stead

This is an order

[fringe quiver]

Amko, thoughts on using a controller vs keyboard and mouse?

[keen zinc]

I don't like it

Keyboard and mouse is my preferred forever

I use controllers only for arpgs

[fringe quiver]

That's what I figured

I've been using the controller but I'd want to try out gyro controls at this point because I haven't used a controller to aim in a long time

[keen zinc]

I can't flick to Hunters in close quarters on controller

[fringe quiver]

Also what difficulty is best to farm super credits in?

[keen zinc]

Trivial

Has really high poi density

[unreal merlin]

Whatever lower one you're comfortable with. Strictly speaking you want whatever lets you just run around looting POIs, though I don't think I'd do that much myself. Kind of... trivial and unengaging.

[quick crown]

Trivial and do the Hunt Commanders and Illegal brodcast

[keen zinc]

It's good for warming up or cooling down

[quick crown]

The raising the flag objective is avoid at all cost

It has a great deal less POIs as i recall

[fringe quiver]

is that dificulty 1?

[quick crown]

Yeah

[fringe quiver]

hmm, I'll have to try it again, when I did it yesterday I couldn't find any POIs so I set it to 3

[quick crown]

I can't tell you truthfully if the Oil mission is one with good spawnsrates or not I haven't looked into it as much

But I can tell you my best experience is for Brood Commanders

Can you even open bunkers in solo

[keen zinc]

Uav booster and recon armor and nuclear radar upgrade

[keen zinc]

Nop

Buddy up

[fringe quiver]

I think I only have scout armor

how do I check?

[keen zinc]

You can also just run your mouse over the map and it'll usually tell you if you mouse over a minor poi

[fringe quiver]

and it doesn't have to have the icon on the map?

[keen zinc]

The map icons appear when you get close

Also the ?s on the compass

I can't believe you didn't find any when half of them have a blinking yellow beam of light shooting upward from them

[fringe quiver]

I found like 1-2

but on difficulty 3 I was finding like 4-5

[blissful sparrow]

tbh the blinking yellow beams are the least interesting ones

the containers are more fruitful

[keen zinc]

You gotta optimize your search pattern

[dusty spruce]

Also make sure to avoid a planet like estanu that loves to make causeways/mountains. Try Draupnir or someplace that prefers larger flatter maps

[keen zinc]

Hellmire is nice

[tiny flume]

I had fun there

[nocturne saffron]

It's a bit toasty, innit

[blissful sparrow]

its a bit dififcult to see where my incendiary grenade effects end

[keen zinc]

I can't switch off impacts

[nocturne saffron]

I can't switch off frags because all of my friends are impactpilled and I have to be the one to take care of it when they can't get one down a bot fabricator vent

[glacial light]

I think I'm starting to run GL launcher so I'm also gonna run stuns

[blissful sparrow]

thats a good point
however:
⬆️ ➡️ ⬇️ ➡️

[stark ether]

having atleast one person with stuns is so nice

[stoic lotus]

I have not switched off stuns since I unlocked them

stun + eagle upon thee

[glacial light]

Yea it's really nice since I learned you can 4 shot kill a charger with a stun and Gl launcher which isn't efficient but you can deal with every situation with bugs except bile titans with just GL launcher and primary

[stark ether]

stuns on chargers

charger: exists
stun: i'm going to ruin this man's whole career

[glacial light]

And bots the GL launcher is basically a backpack less autocannon but less accurate

No booping little red weak points

[stoic lotus]

sevens would you like to know what the L in GL stands for

[stark ether]

i run slugger/punisher, some pistol, stuns, rr

[stark ether]

leg

[blissful sparrow]

i need to grab stuns just to easily get the kill a charger with a resupply pod achievo

[stark ether]

one of my favorite things to do is when theres a charger and all at is empty or on cool down just stunlock it with nades while evveryone runs off and breaks los

[glacial light]

GreLade

[tiny flume]

Can stun grenades destroy bug nests?

[stark ether]

no

would be too stronk if they could

[tiny flume]

That's fair bit rip

[stark ether]

also they wont set off hellbombs iirc

[tiny flume]

You can just shoot those thou

[stark ether]

yeah but sometimes i toss a nade at them for a time delay fuse when running

and its also a you can use stuns near them thing to get to minimum safe

[dusty spruce]

I feel like in most cases nobody even shoots the hellbomb. You call an air strike and suddenly boom “guess there was a hellbomb over there”

[glacial light]

Yup

Or someone arc throwers and suddenly they die to a nuke

[blissful sparrow]

or the bots miss you and hit a bomb you hadn't seen

[glacial light]

They didn't miss, they weren't trying to hit you they were aiming for the hellbomb

[stoic lotus]

classic marvel dialogue

"ha, you missed"
"did I?"

[quick crown]

https://youtu.be/nIyWuYu-toc?

[stoic lotus]

lmao

[merry cosmos]

I am now a certified draupnir veteran

[modest fiber]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Qi1MCY2Erg

[undone veldt]

Oh shit Draupnir was liberated

The Creek is finally actually the highest priority bot planet now

[stoic lotus]

oh nice

[undone veldt]

Honestly things are going way to good rn

The bots and bugs are both pushed back to 2 sectors each

Something bad is gonna happen

[stoic lotus]

illuminate time

[hexed steeple]

noooo my favorite planet

i mean. yay. go liberty.

[rare nymph]

Surely not! The enemies of Managed Democracy are finally being routed! This is cause for nothing but celebration and more massed charges!

[copper crest]

An unsanctioned rumor

[candid finch]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRzbLQ_WKPs&list=RDMMxRzbLQ_WKPs&index=2

In response to how well everything's been going

[keen zinc]

Alleged Illuminate sightings seem to be increasing in frequency

One report I saw on the subreddit was a diver claiming to have seen an Illuminate Sniper take a shot at a distant target and then cloak/disappear

[candid finch]

Oh god snipers

[keen zinc]

Now they'll actually be able to snipe

With the new perspective

[undone veldt]

Horrifying

[candid finch]

I hope all the electric shit that's been coming out recently are suggesting you can conk out cloaks with EMS and electric shocks

[junior badge]

<@&1206091872716595200> divin time?

[quick plinth]

Sure

[stoic lotus]

I can get a bit in sure

[keen zinc]

Illuminate missions

[dusty spruce]

Considering how much the dim lighting of Malevelon has stuck with players, I'm excited to see what planet becomes the death campaign against the Illuminate

[golden ledge]

||Cyberstan||

[oak crow]

i hope theres another fun jungle world down there

[candid finch]

Honestly with snipers and stuff I feel like the ballistic shield will be even better

Running my SMG and ballistic shield so I can play the paladin

[blissful sparrow]

i hope smoke will be good vs the bright boys. Block their laser beams accuracy

[nocturne saffron]

Considering their general colour scheme, and the long sight lines and ability to either slow you down or blow you up, I wouldn't be surprised if either an arctic or moon world became Illuminate Hell

When the snow starts communicating telepathically

[copper crest]

What're the other paladin stratagems besides shield?

[candid finch]

Orbital Lazer for smite

[copper crest]

Bubble shield for circle of protection?

[candid finch]

I think the EMS strike would be good as well, for disruption paladin

[blissful sparrow]

Railcannon to smite thy foes

[candid finch]

A couple of protection and disruptions and lazer or railcannon for SMITE

[glacial light]

I wish ballistic shield had like say a bit of a energy barrier thag extends outsides so you're completely covered from the front

As is enemies can get lucky shot st exposed parts from the front and there's not much you can do about that

[candid finch]

Crouch to cover yourself better

I think it makes you harder to knock back too

I do wonder how crouching shield does against bile spewers

[fringe quiver]

Gimme laser sword that goes "swoosh" and if I say a chant it launches a beam of energy

[undone veldt]

Can you use another backpack if you’re holding the ballistic shield in your arm?

[dusty spruce]

Nope

[undone veldt]

Damn

[orchid pulsar]

<@&1206091872716595200> anyone wanna join me?

[oak crow]

a pale moon with a near white jungle would be perfect imo