second this btw. they teased upcoming weapons a few days back.
#Helldivers 2: For Managed Democracy!
oak crow
south temple
the new DMRs look fuckin sick
quick plinth
why do people insist on calling in airstikes around the pelican
dusk agate
why do people *insist* on calling in airstikes around the pelican
Cool guys run from explosions
verbal summit
When I cluster the dropship it looks like glitter :3
stark ether
psa: droping ordinance on the pelican can break it and make it unenterable
graceful bluff
huh, the hazmat suit didn't come in the battlepass?
daring monolith
That’s why you drop ordnance only as you’re getting in. Not like, before everyone’s in
stark ether
huh, the hazmat suit didn't come in the battlepass?
might be future battlepass or superstore
graceful bluff
Guess I have to get the heavy medic armor then
quick plinth
Guess I have to get the heavy medic armor then
there's a heavy medic armor?
cobalt patrol
500kg looks great on the pelican
and i'm always chasing the high of cutting someone in half with it again
stone bridge
The new weapons seem really solid
graceful bluff
Also I don't think we posted it in chat after finding out, but
If you're prone you won't get hit by any lightning, including arc throwers
stone bridge
The Sickle is an absolute workhorse of a weapon, great uptime, basically no recoil, the scope lacks any muzzle flash so its incredibly accurate in first person
People who liked this thing in HD1 will not be disappointed at all
The Plasma Punisher's AoE is pretty small but it really hits, especially on directs
It one shots warriors to the head, two shots hive guard
The downside is the range - very small, and the projectile travels fairly slowly
Haven't gotten the Dagger or Blitzer yet
graceful bluff
how is the punishers ammo economy
stone bridge
Great
it has 12 magazines of 8 rounds each
So a total of 102 rounds including what the weapon comes with
Reloads are pretty frequent
stark ether
reloads are also very interuptable
quick plinth
they keep making armors that keep stealing away from my Warbond fund
stone bridge
I imagine it'll be really good into bugs - against bots it can work but the limited range really hampers how you operate unless you're using a focal support weapon
stone bridge
reloads are also very interuptable
The Plasma Punisher isn't, its a magazine based gun
stark ether
oof
sinful bay
Should had throw myself out of a stair to have a day off work
But last week I already did that due to food poisoning so F
stone bridge
Also, I think Stun Grenades are good to the point of being competitive with Impacts
unreal merlin
I think the Plasma Punisher will shine a lot more vs bots than bugs given its relatively gigantic EXPLOSIVE area
stone bridge
They don't last long, but its enough to open a window for people to take out the smaller heavies
stone bridge
I think the Plasma Punisher will shine a lot more vs bots than bugs given its re...
The AoE is not big
It can't really be big since its a primary
sinful bay
so, new stuff dropped?
stone bridge
yup, new Warbond is out
unreal merlin
That's why I said relativley , compared to say the Scorcher
sinful bay
Anything that stands out the most?
unreal merlin
Sickle has a really nutty usability.
sinful bay
S-
SICKLE?!
What's next?!
A HAMMER?! /j
stone bridge
like I said before I think Stun Grenades are good enough to compete with Impacts, and the Sickle is probably a top 3 general use primary choice, its a real workhorse
unreal merlin
I might agree with that. The ability to just tell a small group to "hold on while I kill you" can be very strong
A full squad of heavy devastators on stun are trivial to dispatch.
stone bridge
It even keeps Hulks and Chargers stopped for a brief moment
unreal merlin
Oh that's big
stone bridge
Which lets you line up eye shots really easily
pale remnant
being able to freeze up a scorcher is big
sinful bay
I might agree with that. The ability to just tell a small group to "hold on whil...
Must be great against bots and not let them call reinforcements
oak crow
Also I don't think we posted it in chat after finding out, but
If you're prone y...
are you sure? maybe my game bugged out, but i got zapped by a tesla while crawling yesterday.
although it could just be because there was an enemy next to me?
graceful bluff
did you just go prone?
it might not have registered on the arc throwers/hosts side yet
stark ether
you wont get hit by the primary arc but chain arcs can still hit you
quick plinth
arc throwers are generally, not a nice experience in randoms
candid finch
New update?
stark ether
new warbond dropped
candid finch
Man they have not stopped cooking have they?
limber pike
They’re about to cook very hard with new faction and abilities soon ™️
stone bridge
I might agree with that. The ability to just tell a small group to "hold on whil...
Update on this: they can freeze a charger's charge dead in its tracks if you time it right
candid finch
Call those devs a short-order chef cause they they don't stop cooking
stone bridge
These things are smoking hot
sinful bay
wait, what happens if that hits a friendly?
stone bridge
The Stun grenades?
sinful bay
ye
stone bridge
They're basically just localized EMS fields, so same thing
Big slow and saps their stamina
sinful bay
Sounds like a good emergency cqc option too
burnt vapor
S-
SICKLE?!
What's next?!
A HAMMER?! /j
Welcome to las weapon naming convention you can look forward to the trident and the tanto
quick plinth
Steeled Veterans warbond I only really want for the Senator and Dominator
everything else is a bonus
barren iron
sickle, dagger, guard dog, and orbital
forgot the laser cannon
stone bridge
Okay, can confirm Stuns don't close bug holes
I think that's fine, keeps them honest
sinful bay
I think that's fine, keeps them honest
GL is your best friend
It can close so many holes
stone bridge
Autocannon too
Gives them both fantastic utility
But yeah, I think these stun nades offer really good pocket CC
Worthy competitor/sidegrade to Impacts
graceful bluff
Welcome to las weapon naming convention you can look forward to the trident and ...
I really want a 40mm slug shotgun called the hammer to combo with it
quick plinth
im mostly worried about stuns limiting anti spewer capabilities
since impacts insta kill em
graceful bluff
impacts are just so good vs bugs that I don't think people will bring them much
hexed steeple
Also, I think Stun Grenades are good to the point of being competitive with Impa...
can they still explode factories/ nests?
graceful bluff
big group of leapers/hunters? impact, spewer? impact, bughole? impact
even nailed a bile titan in the mouth with one once
sinful bay
noice
stone bridge
can they still explode factories/ nests?
Negative, you'll probably want to bring a GL or Autocannon along
sinful bay
GL was so fun last night, totally recommend it
stone bridge
im mostly worried about stuns limiting anti spewer capabilities
Plasma Punisher works wonders on Spewers, as do the explosive support weapons if you need that capability
stone bridge
big group of leapers/hunters? impact, spewer? impact, bughole? impact
Impacts also don't save you or a buddy from being mobbed point blank - Stuns do
You tend to be rather negative about some things Nalesh
Try em out first - they can cook
quick plinth
I feel like in this game you can make most things cook
it's just about how dedicated you are to making it cook
copper crest
Is the grenade pistol in or not yet?
stone bridge
Not in yet, that's in the explosive themed warbond coming At Some Point
hexed steeple
ah fuck i was really excited for grenade pistol
stone bridge
It and cutting edge were datamined/leaked first, so I imagine it'll be next months thing
stone bridge
Once it does it's really gonna buoy up the non-explosive grenades
Yeah, it'll be nice to have a pillar weapon in the secondary slot
sinful bay
pillar weapon?
stone bridge
pillar weapon?
I use it to describe what a piece of gears role is in a Loadout
Focal weapons are the main thing you use, pillars support the focal by filling niches and roles it cant
Backups are emergency tools and fall backs
The Scorcher is a great example of a pillar primary, for instance, since it's ammo capacity doesn't lend it to being a focal, but its unique capabilities let it cleanly kill Striders on bot missions from any distance
Which is significant with how much of a roadblock and danger they can be
quick plinth
Scorcher is also really nice since it acts as a pseudo stealth weapon
the register of u firing is much lower than the explosion on target (it onehits raiders on avreage)
unreal merlin
Scorcher's great fun to use.
Its limited magazine capacity is the drawback, I'd say. Hard to use as a 100% go-to weapon unless you're really diligent about your accuracy and ensuring you have enough space to reload.
The ability to just two-shot Striders is invaluable as Briar said, though.
quick plinth
I'm loving the sickle
barren iron
Do we know when we will be getting a new non premium warbond
graceful bluff
You tend to be rather negative about some things Nalesh
What? I've said that they can be really good, it's just that impacts are a really good jack of all trades
I've been talking about the stun grenades since they got leaked lmao
stone bridge
I mean you were naysaying the missile silo based purely on leaked footage just yesterday
quick plinth
I really dont like people leaking stuff
stone bridge
And you condemned the Railgun to uselessness when the patch came out
graceful bluff
Saying that it won't really have a niche if it doesn't destroy factories is naysaying?
stone bridge
I'm just saying, chill
We literally don't know if that'll change or not before release or if the person was just using it incorrectly
graceful bluff
And the railgun is useless now, in the role it had previously. The combination of removing it from its role except for hulk headshots+that there's just so many other choices now means that I've seen people run it maybe twice since the patch
it's just not worth the chance of exploding in its current role
modest fiber
eh never used the gun my self so can't say much.. but if you manage to explode your self while using it, sounds like a skill issue XD
graceful bluff
eh never used the gun my self so can't say much.. but if you manage to explode y...
You have no idea how many times I've had people run infront of my railgun while charging and having to decide if I should just shoot them or explode
quick plinth
And the railgun is useless now, in the role it had previously. The combination o...
it's not useless
idk what game ur playing Nal but the railgun's niche is heavyily armored mediums
graceful bluff
again, in its previous role of big target elimination
blissful sparrow
You have no idea how many times I've had people run infront of my railgun while ...
just aim up and shoot?
graceful bluff
just aim up and shoot?
if I had time to do that I would
It's just a magnet for people running in front of you just as you hit 90%
blissful sparrow
that sounds like plenty of time to move the mouse half a millimeter tbh
graceful bluff
I use quake sens levels so it's really not half a millimeter
I will never get people that run at like 2k dpi
blissful sparrow
then move it further
quick plinth
again, in its previous role of big target elimination
it wasn't meant to do that
graceful bluff
it wasn't meant to do that
It was what it was used for
graceful bluff
That's irrelevant?
quick plinth
no it's not irrelevant
graceful bluff
I'm saying that using it in its previous role was what I liked and it's useless for that now
quick plinth
right
graceful bluff
people just seem to skip that part
blissful sparrow
If you run low mouse sensitivit i trust you are also capable of the required hand movement to aim with that sensitivity
If you aren't, then you should adjust your settings to suit your requirements
quick plinth
idk what to tell you, unless they give it a backpack slot or very limited uses per calldown it's not gonna go back to that role
graceful bluff
I don't mind it staying in its current role?
graceful bluff
I'm just saying that I'm not gonna use it
Because people like saying that I say shit I didn't
autumn plover
Unrelated but I kinda want a like ultrakill style nail gun for the game lol
Idk how you'd make that work perse but I feel it'd be fun
graceful bluff
APDS rifle probably
autumn plover
Well the main thing I'd want to retain is the magnet thing
So I guess some sorta weird smart gun
Maybe something like the ones in Allens
graceful bluff
I really want weird utility grenades like that, like a lightning rod spike or a bullet magnet
sinful bay
oh neat, apparently heat based weapons heat slower on extreme cold planets
graceful bluff
and heat faster on hot planets yeah
spear also tracks worse on cold planets and easier on hot planets iirc?
sinful bay
thats neat
Would be funny if using arc weapons during the rain completely fucks you over
autumn plover
I think my two big ask weapons that aren't weird are a bolter main and a minigun secondary
sinful bay
minigun secondary
wot
stoic lotus
do you mean support
autumn plover
Yes
Am dum
Tbh for secondary a like one shot breach loading super high caliber pistol would be cool
Or a sawed off
hexed steeple
now you're talking my language
dusty spruce
The sickle has a really nice sound
oak crow
I really want a 40mm slug shotgun called the hammer to combo with it
i think we just need to be able to run the Caliban in Helldivers, along with the Cannibal shotgun.
graceful bluff
I want a slug shotgun so big that I need to use a stim to repair my arm after every shot
oak crow
Tbh for secondary a like one shot breach loading super high caliber pistol would...
the fact that the orbital cannons have to research breech loading as the third option is absurd to me. one of the funniest things in the game to me.
i can't believe they muzzle load orbital cannons.
ig thats why the stratagems cooldowns are so long lol
upbeat vector
It's only 10% faster
quick plinth
someone still has to grab a space suit and walk the round in from the outside
like
graceful bluff
that's why it's only 10%
quick plinth
these guns even if they're breech loaded dont look like they go back inside the ship
sinful bay
Like the man in black pistol?
unreal merlin
It is ARC-12 electroshotgun trial time
hexed steeple
anyone mess around with localization confusion booster yet?
kindred lintel
from my understanding of it, it increases the duration that bots can call in or bugs can call in
has nothing to do with patrols
hexed steeple
that sounds cool
eager pine
I think my two big ask weapons that aren't weird are a bolter main and a minigun...
I think Dominator is supposed to be a Bolter. It's in the explosive category all by itself even though it isn't explosive.
autumn plover
Is that a primary?
eager pine
Yes
blissful sparrow
Steeled Veterans Page 3 iirc
sinful bay
I think Dominator is supposed to be a Bolter. It's in the explosive category al...
40k Bolter?
eager pine
16 rounds. Medium Armor Penn. Heavy and slow but decent rate of fire.
blissful sparrow
It fires out a shell that then ignites a rocketmotor
hexed steeple
misc's dreams of full arc thrower squad grow even more powerful with the arc damage resist armor
eager pine
Heehee
Someone in here insisted that the arc thrower can hit more than three enemies but I've used it a lot more now and it has yet to do so.
modest fiber
You have no idea how many times I've had people run infront of my railgun while ...
well they are the one who walked in front of the gun, they get shot, simple as
unreal merlin
So the ARC-12 shotgun is... interesting.
idle hollow
is the sickle as busted as it was in the last game
unreal merlin
No charge up, but a fairly long pump-action between shots
unreal merlin
is the sickle as busted as it was in the last game
Kinda yeah
modest fiber
shotguns are overall funny
unreal merlin
it minces bugs
sinful bay
shotguns are overall funny
Extremely satisfying, specially against bots
meager sandal
misc's dreams of full arc thrower squad grow even more powerful with the arc dam...
Teammates are free range extenders now
Just shoot a teammate if you can't reach that bug
modest fiber
is the sickle as busted as it was in the last game
ah the piss laser pointer, not that great on hordes on my experience but it mite be just i have problems with the charge thing
unreal merlin
The Scythe is the more laser pointery
idle hollow
the sickle is the new gun
unreal merlin
The sickle is the pulse laser.
quick plinth
I'm loving the sickle
idle hollow
im glad that it is as busted as it was in helldivers 1
forest crater
Huh what
unreal merlin
Sickleis unironically equivalent to a Liberator with no recoil, and you have to reload it less
modest fiber
oh they came out already?
idle hollow
yes
idle hollow
now we just need the tanto back
and we've got all the HD1 lasers
oh and the trident
forest crater
Imma need to grind super credits then
It is 1000 super credits, right?
The new warbond
kindred lintel
ye
rotund marten
I'm looking forward to the laser liberator and the plasma shotgun
sinful bay
Do we have a new free warbound or just a new paid one?
kindred lintel
just the new paid one
forest crater
I'm assuming just the new paid one
modest fiber
welp, time to grind them supas
oak crow
i wonder what the next "theme" will be, for the packs
forest crater
welp, time to grind them supas
Indeed
oak crow
like how this one is laser/electronic based for the most part
merry cosmos
i wonder what the next "theme" will be, for the packs
Is cutting edge already cyberpunk or no?
graceful bluff
cutting edge is experimental tech
like the weapons very much look like prototypes
kindred lintel
well no strategems are hidden behind a warbond, so my current assumption is no new free bond soon
forest crater
I kinda hope the next theme is for melee weapons
modest fiber
i think my current is 300.. so if am luckly maybe 1-3 weeks time
forest crater
I have around 600 rn
dusty spruce
Nah, deployment is the only free. Otherwise just these premiums every second Thursday of a new month
oak crow
I kinda hope the next theme is for melee weapons
personally i'd love either a CQB warbond (melee weapons, SMGs and new sidearms, etc) or something based around stealth (suppressed weapons, maybe some kind of grenade that acts as a "silencer" and stops bots/bugs from calling in support, etc)
dusty spruce
An ECM Jammer grenade would be pretty nice
strange vine
i wonder what the next "theme" will be, for the packs
according to leaked stuff theres an explosives-themed one in the pipeline
rapid plover
yeah
strange vine
includes a grenade launcher secondary
rapid plover
which will presumably have the grenade pistol
oak crow
An ECM Jammer grenade *would be* pretty nice
it's gotten to the point where i'd rather fight a whole patrol of striders than the standard grunt bots, just because of the bot drops.
i always make sure to engage taking out the grunts to avoid drops, rather than the biggest enemies
quick plinth
An ECM Jammer grenade *would be* pretty nice
didn't we just get something similar
ESM nade?
dusty spruce
Always aim for the ones with one sword and one gun
quick plinth
its basically EMS what r u on about
dusty spruce
Could do the same in a pinch
quick plinth
EMS is stun and this is a stun nade
graceful bluff
EMS is electromagnetic smoke
quick plinth
it even has the same visual effect
unreal merlin
It's the same thing as EMS, it just doesn't last long.
graceful bluff
it's closer to a flashbang than anything EMS we have
unreal merlin
EMS = EneMy Stunned
quick plinth
oh my god
it lasts for a shorter duration sure
but it literally uses the same visual effect as EMS mortar and EMS orbital
sinful bay
Throw on your feet, jump with pack, then GL them to hell
graceful bluff
it's just that a lot of people expected it to be literally just the smoke grenade but EMS instead
(which woulda been broken as hell)
supply backpack just yeeting EMS everywhere would be hilarious though
dusty spruce
EMS is rather strong, even in a very short duration
The ems mortar basically trivializes most defense missions, so I imagine the grenade is still really good
graceful bluff
It seems good yes
you can also do what you can do with smoke grenade where you just hold it in your hand until it explodes
(1.8 fuse iirc?)
unreal merlin
Anyway ARC-12 is odd. It doesn't have as much damage as the arc thrower, but what it does have is pretty enormous stopping power that will stagger Stalkers and Brood Commanders readily. It suffers from the same "dud shots around corpses" issue though, and doesn't seem to arc all that much (or if it does, each individual one doesn't do a lot)
graceful bluff
has anyone tested if the lightning armor makes you resist EMS?
quick plinth
stunned chargers for an easy rocket
graceful bluff
I know a couple of people theorized that it would
strange vine
im gonna pair the arc shotty with arc thrower
dusty spruce
I could see the reason for why, but I don't think it will
quick plinth
if anything 2 - 2 split between impact and stun would be great on a team
strange vine
lightning power at all ranges
quick plinth
though stun can't clear fabs and holes
dusty spruce
Honestly, that grenade pistol will be so nice, simply by giving people another slot to handle fabs/nests
unreal merlin
im gonna pair the arc shotty with arc thrower
The dud shot effect alone is enough to discourage me from using it regularly. Also, I think arc thrower is just a better weapon at all ranges aside "literally point blank" so I wouldn't advise bringing both in the same loadout
graceful bluff
It would be really neat if throwing a stun grenade into a fab or hole just stops it from spawning enemies for a bit
unreal merlin
Cuz when the arc12 might stagger something, the arc thrower could just zap it three times and kill it
dusty spruce
but the shotgun does fill that role of 'get this out of my face' that the thrower needed, I could see them complimenting each other nicely
rotund marten
looks like a better liberator but it depends whether "fire limit 9" means 9 shots or 9 bursts or what have you and how aggressive the cooldown is
dusty spruce
of course, any shotgun can do that, but not with the same style
unreal merlin
Based on my (limited) testing, I don't think it fits that niche well
dusty spruce
The sickle has much lower sustain, I think the liberator can fire for longer
the sickle also has a delay
unreal merlin
You can easily stretch the magazine by using bursts of fire
dusty spruce
takes a second to actually fire
unreal merlin
If you're actually just holding the trigger it's got a smaller magazine than the liberator
rotund marten
well, that's irritating since part of the benefit of the Lib is amazing handling, but I'll give it a shot
not right now though, the servers seem to be teetering a bit and I have things to do
graceful bluff
<@&1206091872716595200> instead of just talking about the game, anyone wanna play it
unreal merlin
"a second" is overstating since it's maybe half a second at most, enough that it's noticeable but not problematic
dusty spruce
anything less than a minute = a second /s
stoic lotus
having used the sickle (after requisitioning it from dead fellow helldivers) it seems just better than the liberator
unreal merlin
If you're actually diligent about the heat level, I'd prefer the sickle over the liberator every time
quartz cloak
I love the sickle, I adore it it's my favourite gun in this game now
stoic lotus
it has 6 heatsinks so you can totally spend them like magazines if you want to
unreal merlin
Put 2-3 shots into any light bug and it dies, let off the trigger a fraction of a second to retarget and shoot again
rotund marten
I am very excited for Plasma Punisher but I only had enough medals banked to get the Sickle
quartz cloak
The recoil is non-existent, the damage is solid, the six heat sinks last Basically Forever
It's the Cadia pattern lasgun I've always wanted
stoic lotus
I don't plan on spending more money on the game so I suspect it will be quite a while until I actually unlock any of this stuff, if ever, but as long as everyone else keeps bringing them I will keep looting them off their bodies lol
unreal merlin
The wind up is also not starting from zero every time you let go and click again, it stays spun up
quartz cloak
I do wish the warbonds were cheaper, yes
rotund marten
interestingly once you get one you get on a bit of a roll since they tend to have 200-300 super credits in the warbond rewards, so it's a considerably shorter run-up to the next one
oak crow
everyone who plays helldivers in Activity 1 rather than its rightful place in HA Hangout is a coward
quartz cloak
Yep
Sadly I impulse-bought the heavy medic armour with that because it's really cool
dusty spruce
Yeah, 10$ is a bit more than I feel comfortable dishing out on a monthly basis, but I think the full base warbond gives 750 SC? That plus some POI and the 300 refund from a premium gives a good sustain if the save between them
oak crow
Yep
~~Sadly I impulse-bought the heavy medic armour with that because it's reall...
it is probably the most HA game I've encountered
quartz cloak
Yeah, 10$ is a bit more than I feel comfortable dishing out on a monthly basis, ...
Yeah, the base warbond is intended to give you roughly enough for a second warbond
oak crow
Yeah, 10$ is a bit more than I feel comfortable dishing out on a monthly basis, ...
I've heard just grinding trivial operations can earn you quite a bit, because theres no chance of rare samples and whatnot.
quartz cloak
With a friend because most supercredits I find behind friendship doors
stoic lotus
yeah same I spent my super credits on the heavy medic when it dropped this morning
stoic lotus
I might go do some trivials for the cash, was doing all the POIs in level 3s with nalesh last night
oak crow
With a friend because most supercredits I find behind friendship doors
i hate those vaults, cause i've been mostly playing solo. found like 3 of them in one mission.
quartz cloak
Suffering from success also I need to get more super samples
rotund marten
I need 20 more supers to be maxed out but nobody seems to play 7+ around here any longer
stoic lotus
also geez misc how much have you been playing this game
rotund marten
at least not when I'm on
stoic lotus
I'll play 7 with you
I got the game yesterday but have been dunked into the deep end regardless
rotund marten
stoic lotus
my first mission was level 7 bots
rotund marten
to be fair I'm basically maxxed
oak crow
my first mission was level 7 bots
goofy, very goofy
rotund marten
at this point there literally are no more grinds other than medals, which you get just from playing the game
I blew all my SCs on the new warbond and the light grenade armour because more impacts is more good
need to get the plasma punisher so I have something to apply the recoil reduction to, but it's going to be handy regardless
stoic lotus
we should definitely do some misc, you were a good darktide buddy
rotund marten
samples ramp really quickly once you stop having things to buy with them, especially since I'm still hardwired to grab them
the exception is supers, obviously.
oak crow
i'd play more on here with y'all, but i'm a little dogshit at Helldivers rn
need to get better at dodging and not getting stunlocked by bugs lol
rotund marten
we should definitely do some misc, you were a good darktide buddy
I am a terminal roamer in this game, I'll be honest
cobalt patrol
If you're actually diligent about the heat level, I'd prefer the sickle over the...
With the number of heat sinks it's got, you can absolutely (and probably should) break a few
rotund marten
everyone else can attest that my usual contribution to the team is to steal a resupply charge, vanish into the distance and then destroy a random series of bases and minor objectives on the other side of the map
oak crow
I am a terminal roamer in this game, I'll be honest
from what i've seen, it's a good strategy as long as your team can back themselves up and as long as you're not dying halfway across the map
stoic lotus
that is very misccore behaviour
modest fiber
woo! we completed 1/4 planets already
rotund marten
occasionally I get got, but roaming is a good idea when you know how to do it and how to dodge/escape patrols, because the bot drop and bug breach have cooldowns
cobalt patrol
I need 20 more supers to be maxed out but nobody seems to play 7+ around here an...
You need to come play with Briar and me. Anything lower than six gets a little too breezy
rotund marten
so if you get heat on you everyone else has an easy time and vice versa
forest crater
Yeah, 10$ is a bit more than I feel comfortable dishing out on a monthly basis, ...
Refund?
oak crow
woo! we completed 1/4 planets already
with any luck, my sweet Meridia will be next. Handsdown my favorite planet.
rotund marten
the downside is that standing near the centre of medium and large bases increases the spawn rate of patrols, according to some people who did Bug Science on this game
and it stacks so don't just have multiple people camping multiple bases
oak crow
the *downside* is that standing near the centre of medium and large bases increa...
bug patrols feel so much more lethal than bot patrols
forest crater
Oh
cobalt patrol
Oh, good thing with the sickle: pops rocket Dev rocket pods very easily
forest crater
I thought you meant refunding stuff like the armor in the superstore
rotund marten
hell, with a little luck and fast feet you can just run through bug bases clicking on holes and dodging charges
bots are much more likely to set up a defence I actually need teammates for
cobalt patrol
hell, with a little luck and fast feet you can just run through bug bases clicki...
Simply bait the chargers into the holes
rotund marten
big open plain with multiple cannon towers and lots of patrols
oak crow
i feel so weird when i hear that others have a harder time with bots, because to me the bugs are so rough. I can very easily stealth by bots, while bugs can seemingly sniff you out much more easily.
cobalt patrol
(this closes the hole and kills the charger)
rotund marten
I've shut holes with it before, I have never seen it kill a charger
oak crow
and the bugs just stunlock and murder you so much more easily. keeping distance and using cover just feels easier against bots
rotund marten
the important thing for bugs is that you will be spotted and you need to know when to just blitz it
stoic lotus
bots have a lot more stuff that's resistant to small arms
upbeat vector
Really?
rotund marten
bugs are highly vulnerable to Blood Bowl tactics of "stun, then run past"
upbeat vector
It feels the other way around tbh
stoic lotus
most bugs you can splat with just about anything but it feels like bots have a lot of stuff that needs heavier weapons to be effective against
oak crow
i was doing some solo missions yesterday (and granted, i'm only playing difficulty 4 or 5) and i was able to do not only a deathless but stimless run against bots, and then completely wiped due to stalkers just stunning and tossing me every time i landed.
but its probably just a skill issue tbh
forest crater
The one thing I hate about the bugs is that you can't see when they're preparing to start a breach
When you shoot one it's more than likely already too late
rotund marten
Helldive bugs are much easier to solo
cobalt patrol
I've shut holes with it before, I have never seen it kill a charger
Watched it happen tonight, if I wasn't lazy I'd find the footage from my stream
rotund marten
helldive bots wil fuck you right up
oak crow
The one thing I hate about the bugs is that you can't see when they're preparing...
and yeah, it feels way harder to stop the breaches, especially cause they continue after they die.
rotund marten
although it's doable
upbeat vector
It feels like all but maybe two of the bots have an easily hittable weakpoint where small arms do damage, whereas bugs have multiple units that spawn in high numbers that are practically immune to non-armour piercing weapons
sinful bay
Heavy Medic? 👀
Pics plz
forest crater
and yeah, it feels way harder to stop the breaches, *especially* cause they cont...
Yeah
rotund marten
helldive bugs are not much harder to dodge than normal bugs, there's just a few more of them, whereas dropping into a bots map on that difficulty is like hitting Normandy Beach
the individual units have a much wider radius where you have to give a fuck about them because they all have guns and good ones at that
stoic lotus
bots I will walk round a corner and there are 8 chainsaw men in a line who do not care about my shotgun
cobalt patrol
Watched it happen tonight, if I wasn't lazy I'd find the footage from my stream
But I literally have footage of a charger smashing into a bug hole and killing itself while closing the hole
stoic lotus
or those big horus heresy dreadnought lookin mfs
rotund marten
you'll get the machine pistol soon and it is reliably good for the denjis
stoic lotus
I have the machine pistol
rotund marten
yeah, dump vaguely into head area
dusty spruce
I find shooting them in the crotch much more productive myself
rotund marten
it's a DPS machine, and Berserkers are just a DPS check
zero armour, tons of health
grenade launcher also good since they horde, but the autocannon struggles
only bot unit it can't walk over
stoic lotus
I do enjoy the autocannon
dusty spruce
THe spray&pray later in the base warbond is actually really good against them
rotund marten
the dreadnoots are the dangerous ones in my experience
dusty spruce
A mag can easily kill all four of them
stoic lotus
there's the horus heresy dreadnoughts and the 40k dreadnoughts
rotund marten
rocket dreads and heavy dreads have instakill potential and amazing sustained dakka respectively
stoic lotus
the 40k ones are terrifying
cobalt patrol
it's a DPS machine, and Berserkers are just a DPS check
Not entirely true, you can one shot them with the Slugger if you get the headshot perfect.
rotund marten
the 40k dreadnoughts are Hulks, which are bastards but less numerous
dusty spruce
The slugger does, I think, the most single shot dmg in the game, tho
rotund marten
this is because slugger headshots have very good DPS
dusty spruce
*of a primary
sinful bay
the 40k dreadnoughts are Hulks, which are bastards but less numerous
At least hey have a red 'shot here' head
And their backs are naked
cobalt patrol
I had a great hero moment where Hades was running for his life, and I stepped up and proceeded to down 6 berserkers in 6ish shots, it was great
stoic lotus
I shot one of those mfs in the face with two EATs and dropped an airstrike on it and its response was to blow me up with a rocket
cobalt patrol
Turns out aiming is way easier when you've got good fps
rotund marten
anyway, for the contemptor dreads I like to run the Slugger shotgun since it staggers them, kills in 1-2 headshots and can pen their armour anywhere so you can just spam them down if necessary
Scorcher plasma rifle is max level so not many people have it but it's also decent
doesn't stagger but it can burst them reasonably fast
stoic lotus
yeah that's what they're called, contemptor pattern
cobalt patrol
I shot one of those mfs in the face with two EATs and dropped an airstrike on it...
Hulks go down in one eat if you hit the eyeball.
rotund marten
and it has the massive upside of being able to two-tap those ATST looking things from any angle
stoic lotus
I would like the slugger but I have not yet unlocked it
been using the basic pump action
sinful bay
same
rotund marten
I haven't actually used the Punisher since they buffed it
cobalt patrol
anyway, for the contemptor dreads I like to run the Slugger shotgun since it sta...
Do you mean devastors? Pretty sure the slugger doesn't stagger hulks.
sinful bay
I haven't actually used the Punisher since they buffed it
Great for stagging bigger bots
stoic lotus
I like it, you get a lot of kills per reload (which you can do very flexibly) and the range is decent
sinful bay
Chainsaw bots are nothing with the punisher
rotund marten
Do you mean devastors? Pretty sure the slugger doesn't stagger hulks.
contemptor dreads are Devastators, yes
stoic lotus
and it does stagger the chainsaw bois but not enough to stop them stabbing me in the face
dusty spruce
Do you mean devastors? Pretty sure the slugger doesn't stagger hulks.
Older dreadnoughts weren't so chunky as the current 40k ones
dusty spruce
Yes, please add Heavy Rocket Devastators, with shield, minigun, and rockets
rotund marten
also known affectionately as the Eggnought
sinful bay
At least is not the sus bots
cobalt patrol
contemptor dreads are Devastators, yes
Ah, cool. And yes, perfect headshot = dead Dev. You know you got it right if the head combusts into flames
dusty spruce
Slugger is so good against them, simply because every shot staggers them, with makes them way easier to deal with
rotund marten
the headshot collapse animation for devastators is obscenely satisfying
dusty spruce
except for when the Heavy finds out how to make the bullets come out sideways
rotund marten
as a grenade launcher main I appreciate the heavy devastator for holding out a big flat shield for me to aim the grenades at
hitting the other two types is a bit more difficult if there's fog or sandstorms
stoic lotus
scotland is so foggy
merry cosmos
I wonder how Glasgow is doing in helldivers 2
rotund marten
nuked, apparently
cobalt patrol
the headshot collapse animation for devastators is obscenely satisfying
It's great on berserkers too when you get it right and they just go down
stoic lotus
*super glasgow
rotund marten
I am much less good at headshotting zerkers because of their run animation
merry cosmos
nuked, apparently
Does it have anything to do with the razor gangs?
rotund marten
devs are pretty easy
dusty spruce
I think it just got turned into Glassedgow for being too close to England
oak crow
I am much less good at headshotting zerkers because of their run animation
i typically just go for their guts tbh
the machine pistol chews them them at close range, and at longer range, i'll just use an autocannon or a primary.
merry cosmos
Wait. Mega-city?
stoic lotus
rest in piss glasgow 
merry cosmos
They have mega city's
cobalt patrol
Mega city one
merry cosmos
What kind of dredd level shit happens on super earth?
unreal merlin
Cursory testing, the ARC-12 is NOT a good weapon vs bots.
cobalt patrol
rotund marten
probably just regular Dredd
merry cosmos
What kind of dredd level shit happens on super earth?
Are the scenes of utopia in the intro just propaganda
dusty spruce
I think the blocks get even bigger here
unreal merlin
Its rate of fire isn't enough to staggerlock a single devastator, though it DOES stagger them. It also doesn't do nearly enough damage to them to justify it either.
oak crow
Are the scenes of utopia in the intro just propaganda
partially yeah, tho i don't doubt theres plenty of suburban areas
merry cosmos
partially yeah, tho i don't doubt theres plenty of suburban areas
Slumburbs
Super earth is a shithole
unreal merlin
Vs Raiders, its rate of fire is just too slow and it doesn't arc nearly as good as the arc thrower, so it's basically just mulching one target every second
merry cosmos
Confirmed
stoic lotus
thinking about post-apocalyptic milton keynes
now there's a setting for a stalker game
merry cosmos
I want to call in a squad of SEAF troopers to fight along side me
stoic lotus
a little goon squad would be great fun
merry cosmos
🤨
stoic lotus
I suspect they would die immediately though
rotund marten
the turrets tend to die immediately anyway, so if there's a few more Troops then they should last longer than those do, with the same level of good placement
crystal canopy
a little goon squad would be great fun
arsenal FC??
stoic lotus
lol
rotund marten
the exception is the tesla tower which is actually great for bugs at the cost of teamkilling the occasional guy
merry cosmos
a little goon squad would be great fun
Squad of something awful posters
stoic lotus
that thing is extremely teamkilly
rotund marten
the good thing is that it won't TK you if you respect it properly, which is much easier than for regular turrets which love to detect a bug roughly in front of you and shoot you to death from across extraction before you realise there's even a turret there
stoic lotus
I just stand on top of the turrets
oak crow
I want to call in a squad of SEAF troopers to fight along side me
would be awesome to call in some SEAF grunts, yeah. Would love to call in a bombardment, then make a push alongside a few other soldiers.
dusty spruce
Sentries are better placed at higher or lower elevation so that they are less likely to mulch your teammates.
This doesn't apply to the mortar
nothing will save you from the mortar
stoic lotus
I simply place myself at higher elevation and then someone usually jumps on my head
rotund marten
tesla turret works fine anywhere vaguely in front of you but should be placed on a hill to stop the bugs eating it
easily my favourite deployable though
stoic lotus
even the bots' most genius tactical AI could not conceive of the totem pole tactic
quick crown
Apparently the new warbond has an armor that reduces Arc damage by 95%? That might have been a joke from my friend though so IDK the validity of the statement
rapid plover
it's in there, yeah
dusty spruce
All three of them do that, lets you eat ~5 tesla tower strikes
rapid plover
Arc Tower still does a lot of damage through the armor still
it just doesn't instantly get you
quick crown
if true though i'm about to force my squad to become a god damn group of Electro priests from 40K
stoic lotus
lol
quick crown
a veritable lightning storm on the battlefield
rapid plover
I shudder to imagine the amount of friendly fire arcdog would inflict
naive dragon
I love it
rotund marten
I already really like the tesla tower so Shock Trooper Squad will be very fun
dusty spruce
if true though i'm about to force my squad to become a god damn group of Electro...
I would love a backpack that works like the voltagheist field
naive dragon
Listen I'll blend arc and laser I like them both
dusty spruce
like a shield backpack with the chance to discharge against enemies
rotund marten
I'm thinking arc thrower and either slugger or plasma punisher depending on how well it goes
have to bring the stun grenades
stoic lotus
doc brown over here packin the 1.21 gigawatts
glacial light
Make the big Tesla backpack just the turret but on your back and works exactly like the regular so you have to be prone all the time or die
stoic lotus
lol
quick crown
Activate the backpack to discharge like a fighting game Burst
south temple
is the blitzer good?
candid finch
I don't have enough super creds for the new stuff yet but I'm working through the main free one
and what's the Plas rifle thing good for? Certainly seems to struggle against bugs
burnt vapor
It’s pretty solid for bots
Big thing is it can 2 tap striders from the front
rotund marten
for bugs it's a standard issue rifle with the explosive tag, which means that if you fire it at something pressed up against your face you die instantly
but it also does full damage to charger abdomens rather than the 10% that non-explosive primaries manage, which means you can kill them with about a mag to the behind, or tear through the big spitter guys by magdumping vaguely in their direction
for bots it's incredibly good
two-taps striders, 1-2 taps infantry, dumping a full mag will blow up the vents of cannon towers, hulks or tanks from extreme range since it has great handling
not quite as good for devastators as the slugger but not far off
candid finch
Well neat, I can use it for my bot runs
quick crown
I only bring the spear on defensive missions for bugs, Are the tanks particularly weak to the Spear?
Its so cumbersome what with being backpack based so i've never tried
honest acorn
Spear consistently 1 shots tanks
rotund marten
Well neat, I can use it for my bot runs
It's not bad for bugs, it's just annoying to have to switch to your pistol for a second whenever a hunter gets in your grill
graceful bluff
spear is amazing vs turrets, be it tank or tower
burnt vapor
If it locks
unreal merlin
Can confirm that the Sickle is mondo good vs bots as well as bugs.
Very easy to mulch raiders and focus fire on devastator heads/waists
honest acorn
So the legend lives
unreal merlin
Stun grenade is clutch and makes hulks and bunches of devastators easy mode.
Not a fan of the ARC-12 due to the overall lightning inconsistencies and its lack of damage. Plasma Punisher is neat but kind of difficult to use and IMO not worth that extra difficulty for what it brings.
unreal merlin
Stun grenade is clutch and makes hulks and bunches of devastators easy mode.
Also crushers. Telling them to just HOLD STILL for even two seconds is great.
hollow plover
and the Funny Guns
undone veldt
Anyone wanna dive?
glacial light
I'm hoping for a spear lockon improvement or even the ability to dumb fire in a direct line of sight
I do like having spears for like cannon towers
If only it'd take out an eye of sauron too
autumn plover
Random thought but I think it'd be cool to have an option to disable the safety on lasers so that they do more pen/damage but start to damage you over time when heating up
alpine seal
heatsink just explodes when you maxx it out plasma pistol style
though maybe not lethal except for the cannon
autumn plover
I just like the idea of letting them go hard enough that the cannon can like melt a hole in a tank or etc
tiny flume
So, I gotta say I am tempted by the game
But I've not looked into a lot of details, hoping folks here can help out
- specs, I'm a bit behind on upgrades, tools online say I can run it but I never really trust those
- How much of a time commitment is it. I'm mainly looking for a casual hop on, blast bad guys and leave thing
But I'm seeing talk of levels, ranked gear, etc
south temple
it’s not a huge time commitment if you don’t want it to be
levels and ranked gear and that shit comes up in higher difficulties
autumn plover
-
What do you have in terms of specs?
-
That is absolutely a viable way to play.
tiny flume
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-8400 CPU @ 2.80GHz (6 CPUs), ~2.8GHz
Memory: 16384MB RAM
Chip type: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 6GB
I'll be running off of an SSD
How does higher difficulty content differ
Is it scaled up enemy count and stats, or are there objective differences
dusty spruce
Heavier enemies, usually more objectives
Enemy health is the same at any difficulty
south temple
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-8400 CPU @ 2.80GHz (6 CPUs), ~2.8GHz
Memory: 16...
you should be fine with these i think
junior badge
That should be able to run it on low settings, from everything I've heard.
Possibly mid, even.
tiny flume
For a comparison to another game, would easier content be a Destiny 2 Strike and higher content a Raid. Or would it be more like a Destiny 2 Strike compared to a Grandmaster Nightfall
dusty spruce
More like they start replacing dregs with extra captains
graceful bluff
leveling isn't bad at all
tiny flume
Like is it XP per mission, per kill, do you get your own sub-objectives, etc
graceful bluff
you'll never have enough samples
per mission
based on objectives, you get nothing from killing stuff
dusty spruce
XP is per mission, depending on how many side objectives, people you extract, etc
tiny flume
Makes sense, thanks
graceful bluff
avoiding firefights is a major thing at higher difficulties
tiny flume
How's the matchmaking work, I assume you can go in with a couple friends and connect as a group to a wider pool?
junior badge
I have 50ish hours in it and while far from max level, I'm high enough to be able to unlock anything.
For reference.
tiny flume
That's a good time frame, thanks
dusty spruce
You can group up before missions, and also join/be joined in progress
graceful bluff
Basically you'll unlock every calldown but one by the time you're level 20 out of 50
stoic lotus
yeah you can have two of you and two randos
tiny flume
Sorry for all the questions but details like these it's a lot easier to ask people 😛
junior badge
For sure
blissful sparrow
you get almost everything by level 20, the new mech is 25
junior badge
Resources are plentiful enough to not require grinding, but scarce enough that you won't just get everything instantly, imo.
If you grind, you can get everything pretty fast, I'm told.
dusty spruce
The game has multiple progression systems. XP gets you levels, unlocking strategems. Requisitions lets you buy those strategems. Samples can be found in mission to upgrade your ship.
Weapons and armor are unlocked in "Warbonds", which are your more traditional battlepass. There is a free one inately and now two premiums, each of those two costing about 1000 of the premium currency. You can get 750 from the free, and find a fair few in mission, with the premiums further refunding around 300 (so if you conserve and aren't too affecting by FOMO, you can do it all free without insane grinding).
stark ether
i do want to attach an asterisk to the word "everything" so far in that most people are talking about unlocking stratagems, weapons arent level locked but you need a currency you get from mission
completion and can pick up in missions
stark ether
nothing if you're willing to do some light farming
well other than the supercitizen armors and stuff
tiny flume
Is supercitizen stuff cosmetic?
junior badge
Nothing is entirely locked, but you definitely can buy super credits (for unlocking warbonds and additional armors) faster than you earn them in-game ^^
graceful bluff
Everything outside of the deluxe edition armor and weapon can be gotten just fine ingame
the weapon is shit
sinful bay
blissful sparrow
there is 1 currency that you can botj earn in game or buy
it unlocks certain armor pieces
new battlepasses (which are permanent)
and the battlepasses themselves contain the premium currency aswell
dusty spruce
And also the weird arcade cabinet on your ship
tiny flume
Seems like the old Battlefront system of pay or play to unlock
junior badge
Is supercitizen stuff cosmetic?
Ish. It's a mid weapon and a pretty armor. You can get equivalent armor.
stark ether
Is supercitizen stuff cosmetic?
ehhhhh, there are equivalents for the armor, the weapon has no one to one equivalent but isnt anything special imo
tiny flume
Fairs
blissful sparrow
oh yeah, the M99 Knight SMG is premium only and its... uh... a saltshaker rather than a weapon
dusty spruce
Seems like the old Battlefront system of pay or play to unlock
Basically, though this at least doesn't have EA leaning over top of it too hard.
stark ether
oh yeah and the game cabnet but its just a minigame with no reward
sinful bay
the game cabinet is for super citizens only?aw man
junior badge
I haven't bought any super credits, and have earned 1.8k in the time I've been playing.
stark ether
its for super citizen ships only, if the host of your game has super citizen you can play it even if you dont
junior badge
Actually closer to 2k, since I bought one armor, now that I think about it.
blissful sparrow
well, for Super Citizen hosted games
if someone who has it is the host you can play it
sinful bay
:D!
junior badge
Which means I could unlock both premium passes by now.
Instead I will unlock the new one once I play tonight, and the older one in a few days.
tiny flume
All seems like an acceptable level of money grab
stark ether
the premium currency is super super easy to farm
junior badge
Absolutely.
tiny flume
I'll give it a go and test those specs in person
blissful sparrow
i bought the Super Citizen Edition by Accident which gave me access to the Premium battlepass from the start and while at the start i was quite excited for getting its stuff.... its just meh.
And costs more medals than the basic stuff
dusty spruce
Yeah, nothing in the Steeled Veterans is that essential. Maybe best there is the Incendiary Grenade, but everything else there is sorta a sidegrade.
junior badge
Worst things about the game to me rn:
Technical issues. Crashes a bit too often, but they'll get to those in time.
Doesn't explain quite enough things to newbies - like the reload menu which lets you change weapon settings, callouts, or how ADS works.
dusty spruce
The weapon settings does show up in one of the Brasch Tactics on the tv, but those are random
junior badge
Fair.
tiny flume
Thanks everyone
dusty spruce
Hope you have fun/it runs well o7
quick plinth
graceful bluff
oh this is gonna make the resupply achievement real easy huh
junior badge
It's only gonna get better with the grenade pistol - you'll have on-demand basic explosives and stun!
dusty spruce
I dunno if the grenade pistol fires your type of grenades or just more lik in the launcher
sinful bay
Leaked Grenade Pistol /j
merry cosmos
Remove that j
sinful bay
PFF WHy
merry cosmos
Because there's no joke here
oak crow
<@&1206091872716595200> ips-n hangout
why IPSN?
alpine seal
why ipsn and not ha
oak crow
though I could see an IPSN argument
alpine seal
oh i was cut off
junior badge
I dunno if the grenade pistol fires your type of grenades or just more lik in th...
Like in the launcher, according to the leaked footage. Which is why I think it'll combo incredibly well with the stun nade.
alpine seal
ah both are true you have a point
oak crow
imo, if Helldivers had missions where you boarded space stations or large automaton ships, that could feel very IPSN
but HA just fits the whole Managed Democracy schtick
merry cosmos
imo, if Helldivers had missions where you boarded space stations or large automa...
Space hulk
unreal merlin
I actually enjoy the gunplay of HD2 enough that I'd be down for an occasional indoor gunfight.
glacial light
Consider fighting on the surface of a space station
Entering some shallow basements and seeing a stratagem punch through the ceiling
verbal summit
Didn't they release new stratagems or something?
unreal merlin
"how are we supposed to use stratagem calldowns INSIDE/UNDERGROUND??"
" :) "
ceiling explodes, hellpod tunneled all the way through
verbal summit
I swear I saw stuff about that somewhere
merry tartan
Didn't they release new stratagems or something?
not yet
verbal summit
Ahhh
unreal merlin
Just some new weapons/armors/a booster
glacial light
"how are we supposed to use stratagem calldowns INSIDE/UNDERGROUND??"
" :) "
*ce...
DRG intensifies
verbal summit
I was worried my game was bugged.
verbal summit
Trye
glacial light
That's what the termidcide is for
verbal summit
True
glacial light
It's wild they're going to wipe out the bugs for good and we'll only be fighting bots surely that's the only outcome
stark ether
autumn plover
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-8400 CPU @ 2.80GHz (6 CPUs), ~2.8GHz
Memory: 16...
I have similar. Won't be solid 60 but should run ok.
tiny flume
I'm looking at 50 on medium
glad marsh
It's wild they're going to wipe out the bugs for good and we'll only be fighting...
It's totally gonna have the reverse effect and make new bugs instead
tiny flume
But tutorial so
glad marsh
Calling it here
dusty spruce
I'm also stuck between 'termicide will mutate them' and 'I bet we're only doing these four planets and they'll just do the sectors next to it and go around it'
glacial light
It's totally gonna have the reverse effect and make new bugs instead
Would the super Earth scientist lie or us or be wrong?
glacial light
It's the elusive pistol stalker
autumn plover
Ork snipers moment
quick plinth
not to mention that from our outside perspective its obvious that what happens on bug infested plantes is SE constantly failing to contain them
dusty spruce
Nah, surely farming the sentient bugs couldn't have been a bad idea
quick plinth
be it for science facilities or farming for fuel
I mean
all animals are sentient
idk about sapient however
they dont seem like they're capable of any kind of self reflection or higher thinking
granted all we encounter are drones or workers
/ warrior castes
the queens as it were probably do have some kind of higher intelligence if scifi tropes are to be believed
dusty spruce
Sticking to the tropes, they've absolutely got a brain bug. The hive lords in the first game may have been that, or just have been really big tunneling bugs that make the nest infrastrictire
umbral temple
lethal dagger
glad marsh
Would the super Earth scientist lie or us or be wrong?
I'm gonna guess it's just them screwing up the formula
dusty spruce
More games need that, I hate that I always think of it as, 'Wizard 101 naming'
It always leads to fun
blissful sparrow
My ship is just the "Elected Representative of Family Values" because its the longest name you can get
glad marsh
....
unreal merlin
Elected Representative of Individual Merit is mine
glad marsh
That's also my ship name....
south temple
distributor of democracy for me
south temple
Like any nerd I named it in the hope of Firefly being renewed
what’s it called
rapid plover
mine is the Martyr of Justice
tiny flume
Dream of Serenity
south temple
Dream of Serenity
BASED
quick plinth
SES Princess of Destruction
azure pewter
judge of judgement baby
tardy onyx
SES Dawn of Peace
graceful bluff
SES Pride of Pride is forever
alpine seal
SES Octagon of Super Earth
graceful bluff
Me calling in an orbital laser on the poor brood commander objective in trivial missions after grabbing all the samples
sinful bay
Custodes of Humankind
...Look, I am reading Master of Mankind, it's a mood
and there was nothing Orky in da names >:V
stoic lotus
mine is called princess of starlight
sinful bay
Gee I wonder who is your favorite pony -runs
stoic lotus
glacial light
SES Mother of the People
glacial light
Arc armor and stims armor, surely it can't be bad for your heart
I'm gonna make a prediction of Helldivers vids of dropping Tesla towers around corners running past them just fine and when their teammate follow they get zapped to death
stoic lotus
99%
glacial light
101% heals you a bit
graceful bluff
Giving you a buffer of like 10 zaps that slowly decays but if you get hit by that many you explode
glacial light
Shield should let you so that
Zapping a shield pack makes it stronger until it just explodes like a mini nuke
graceful bluff
Imagine being able to recharge/supercharge the shield by hitting it with tesla
quick plinth
stoic lotus
stoic lotus
swoman?
quick plinth
man woman or?
helldiver
glacial light
Yes
sinful bay
Zapping a shield pack makes it stronger until it just explodes like a mini nuke
I would love that
blissful sparrow
it is very simple: "Diverse" is just german for "various others"
sinful bay
Hell Diverse
glacial light
Heck Diverse
sinful bay
Hefty Disk
keen zinc
Heavy D-
sinful bay
Heavy D-
Diet! Of course
Remember kids, Helldivers have a very heavy balanced diet! So eat your greens and remember to brush your teeth!
After finishing your daily rifle 1 hour firing range of course!
blissful sparrow
we currently have a 80 story point ticket in our backlog to adjust all our documents with an extra gender option. Old german computer systems are very rigid and its a lot of work and testing to make sure it works 😄
sinful bay
pain
blissful sparrow
its adjustments to every single document and letter we send out in all versions, both light and dark processing. Its not even complicated i just needs to be done and tested for all of them
i think we currently have about 1200 different document templates
graceful bluff
we currently have a 80 story point ticket in our backlog to adjust all our docum...
Please tell me not COBOL
blissful sparrow
: )
glacial light
That's a lot of not AGILE
graceful bluff
o h n o
blissful sparrow
but no, thankfully not
The project i'm working in is infact the project to replace the old COBOL application
blissful sparrow
That's a lot of not AGILE
its fine, we can split the story a thousand times when we get to it
meager saffron
"with Fortran!"
glacial light
What was your blockers today?
Everything COBOL
sinful bay
The project i'm working in is infact the project to replace the old COBOL applic...
With Rust? -runs
blissful sparrow
Gosu actually, which is just Java, but improved, but before anyone had invented Kotlin
blissful sparrow
https://gosu-lang.github.io/ Its a quite ok language thats comfortable to work with
junior badge
It's still steadily growing in the places where it matters, like the Linux kernel.
Because well, that's what it's for.
sinful bay
Rust had popularity?
With a few people, saying "Oh how old code can be replace with Rust and it will work out! Look! mozilla is doing it!"
blissful sparrow
beep boop public static void
junior badge
main()
sinful bay
|| 01000011 01011001 01000010 01000101 01010010 01010011 01010100 01000001 01001001 01001110 00001010 01000011 01000001 01001110 00100111 01010100 00100000 01001011 01000101 01000101 01010000 00100000 01001000 01000101 01010010 00100000 01000100 01001111 01010111 01001110 ||
That's nonsense
glacial light
Is that binary? We don't use communist freedom hating 1s and 0s we use the democractic quadnary ↗️⬇️◀️▶️
sinful bay
Binary? Where? Comissar you are seeing things, now let's enjoy a cup of Liber-tea
stoic lotus
Is that binary? We don't use communist freedom hating 1s and 0s we use the democ...
⬆️⬇️⬅️➡️
glacial light
The ends of the left and right arrow weren't in the budget we needed for a 1/1000000th of a stratagem
blissful sparrow
Is that binary? We don't use communist freedom hating 1s and 0s we use the democ...
ah you mean 00 10 11 01?
forest crater
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/335438088816033794/1217894533442830447/...
Arc Thrower enthusiasts stay winning
glacial light
I was never taught to write directions, only read
forest crater
Arc Thrower enthusiasts stay winning
(I wish I could wear that armor but the bonesnapper armor bonus is too damn good)
...I am. Definitely. Not addicted to stims. No siree.
glacial light
I can wait for heavy stim armor I don't have a problem
blissful sparrow
Its fine, Pharmacorp determined you don't get addicted to their product :)
glacial light
It'd be unpatriotic to question them
stark ether
I can wait for heavy stim armor I don't have a problem
its in the super store now
stoic lotus
yeah I picked up the heavy medic armour this morning because it seemed neat
graceful bluff
I just need a heavy stealth armor now
glacial light
Fuck that new warbond gimme heavy stim armor
forest crater
I've only been wearing medium armor so far
graceful bluff
since if you're doing stealth the sprint decrease doesn't matter much
south temple
Fuck that new warbond gimme heavy stim armor
how many SC in total
forest crater
I might wear some light stim armor if it existed
glacial light
However much my wallet can handle
blissful sparrow
light stim is what i ran around all the time before the armor fix
stark ether
off cycle super store
glacial light
The 2 extra stims and +2 s duration really helps heavy as with effectively infinite stamina during the time let's you mitigate the downside of slow
graceful bluff
yeah
naive dragon
I will change my fit when the drip commands
forest crater
I thought you couldn't stim if you were at full health
graceful bluff
I never thought to do that instead of shield
Who needs a shield when you can berserker your way through damage
graceful bluff
resupply only gives you 2 stims
Backpack resupply gives you full stims
it's more powerful than a regular resupply
forest crater
I wish, for lack of a broader term that I know of, glamouring existed in HD2
Y'know, stats of one thing but appearance of another
graceful bluff
same, especially with the hazmat armor coming out at some point
forest crater
Mainly with armor
graceful bluff
I mean yeah, helmets are already just cosmetic
forest crater
I love the prosthetics on the first premium warbond
I know for a couple weapons it wouldn't make sense(i.e energy weapons and rounds reload weapons)
honest acorn
Ok plasma shotty is growing on me
It’s fucked up to aim but it does kill bots pretty well
glacial light
Is there a personal order today
junior badge
200 kills with the MG, I think
honest acorn
It does
glacial light
RIP if my dreams of heavy stim armor supply back berserker stays on hold
I want maximum tanking
dusk agate
Alright, so it definitley seems like TCS is soloable on medium, but the Tesla Tower appears to be m a n d a t o r y
rich marlin
Man I need to get the Tesla tower
dusk agate
kind of curious to see what four tesla towers could do to that mission, frankly
stark ether
machinegun does not use a backpack slot
rich marlin
it looks like such a good stratagem
dusk agate
Man I need to get the Tesla tower
Most team-killingest strategem to exist. I cannot recommend it enough
rich marlin
Most team-killingest strategem to exist. I cannot recommend it enough
cluster bombs needs a friend
dusk agate
(it is such a struggle to intuit its range and not just fry your whole team)
honest acorn
It does?? I thought it was just a normal support weapon
Oh I misunderstood what you were asking
forest crater
(I wasn't the one asking, but it's fine)
glacial light
Being gaslit in Helldivers
blissful sparrow
me, throwing a napalm strike into a gas strike
glacial light
That should just ignite the gas like a bomb cloud
blissful sparrow
Magicka rules
dusty spruce
Please, please arrowhead, bring back my lovely poison weapons
graceful bluff
wait I just realized, the lightning shotgun isn't a stratagem
dusty spruce
granite rivet
golden ledge
Heavy Medic armor in the super store by the way
rotund marten
I picked up the light grenadier armour personally
very handy whenever you haven't brought autocannon or GL to a mission
keen zinc
I prefer the ultralight one
stoic lotus
are light armours worth it
glacial light
Where's the ultraheavy armor
stoic lotus
also: ultralight?
glacial light
I want to be a walking tank
Some light armors have like 50(?) Armor instead of 75(?)
So there's kind of 2 types of light armor
stoic lotus
huh
glacial light
The ones I can think of are the two types of light scout armor in the free warbond
stoic lotus
I kinda just picked heavy for the hell of it but it does feel like I don't quite get two shot by some things any more
blissful sparrow
i'm still getting used to armor actually mattering but i tend to run medium against bugs and heavy against bots
being able to survive a random rocket from off screen is nice
glacial light
Basically why I use heavy, avoiding one shots and getting a chance to stim is huge for survivability
stoic lotus
I find my courageous defender of democracy is often simply too brave and heroic to use their stim unless I hammer the button a few times
glacial light
Usually the biggest thing that leads to failed missions at diff 7 is like being bogged down and not moving, death spirals, and taking too long.
The times I don't die is like 2 to 4 extra lives for my teammates
rotund marten
I don't recall an ultralight grenadier armour at all
sinful bay
Honestly Heavy armor atm feel is not worth it much.
Speed is still king
The category by itself needs an extra 'oomf' to be worth it, damage reduction is not enough, speed is simply too important
oblique storm
Heavy armor is good against bugs
graceful bluff
I feel like there's literally just two kinds of people, people that feel heavy armor is useless vs bugs and people that think it's amazing
oblique storm
And also there's certain maps and mission loadouts with long drawn out defense sequences
graceful bluff
no middle ground
glacial light
I think heavy armor is well worth it for bots
oblique storm
I really like heavy armor and shield generator vs bugs and I don't like it with my current playstyle against bots
glacial light
Let's you ignore light infantry and focus on mediums/heavy like devastators and just run through bases to objectives
oblique storm
because when I'm fighting bots I go light armor
honest acorn
<@&1206091872716595200> I got an operation in me anyone free?
oblique storm
Sure
graceful bluff
sure
rich marlin
Wake up divers, new Eagle/Pelican art just dropped
https://twitter.com/Heartbreak_Juan/status/1768164193533136898?t=mMDh4cdC06zluKDtCfjCaQ&s=19
Twitter
glacial light
I just had a thought with bugs being able to fly there could be bug AA nests that spew out a lot of flyers that "jam" eagles
glad marsh
Hmm
upbeat vector
Wake up divers, new Eagle/Pelican art just dropped
https://twitter.com/Heartbr...
Eagle 1 totally leaves though?
rich marlin
Shhhh, let Eagle be a badass
glacial light
Bots do seen to have a lot of unique POIs like cannon towers, eye of saurons, AA, mortar.
Bugs have stalkers nest and what else?
dusty spruce
Stinky mushroom
meager sandal
"how are we supposed to use stratagem calldowns INSIDE/UNDERGROUND??"
" :) "
*ce...
Yes please, edf style cave missions
rich marlin
thinks
dusty spruce
Technically the screamers which don't exist
glacial light
What now
dusty spruce
shhhh
upbeat vector
Shhhh, let Eagle be a badass
No. I will not let Eagle pretend to not abandon helldivers in the field when they do
rich marlin
No. I will not let Eagle pretend to not abandon helldivers in the field when the...
Listen Eagle-1 would definitely hang around if her craft didn't require rearming
Actually that would be a cool upgrade
upbeat vector
I do think it would actually be kinda cool if- yeah
If you could still use Eagle strikes after the destroyer left, but you don't have any more rearms
glacial light
Yes please
rich marlin
Like the last on the list, if the super destroyer leaves, Eagle stratagems can be used till they are exhausted
glacial light
Or similarly you can summon vehicles after super destroyer leaves cause they arrive on a pelican which doesn't leave until we do
rich marlin
I'd assume it'd be an expensive upgrade but a worthwhile one
30 super samples
120 commons and 50 rare or something like that
undone veldt
Does the liberator anti armor work against devastators?
Because rn my only real plan for them is to just stunlock them with a shotgun
kindred lintel
<@&1206091872716595200> Lookin' for 2 more!
hallow gorge
Does the liberator anti armor work against devastators?
I don't really think so
undone veldt
Damn
honest acorn
Does the liberator anti armor work against devastators?
Yes
hallow gorge
In my opinion it's better to just shoot more bullets and hit their weakpoint
undone veldt
Oh
undone veldt
In my opinion it's better to just shoot more bullets and hit their weakpoint
I’m gonna be honest with recoil in this game I can never really consistently hit bot weak points
keen zinc
In my opinion it's better to just shoot more bullets and hit their weakpoint
Stalwart gaming
kindred lintel
Just got an email, seems playstation has their own site for enemy ID
https://www.playstation.com/en-ca/games/helldivers-2/?et_rid=&et_cid=240208-TESTAWLC-GL-1ST-T-FLX&Linkid=240208-TESTAWLC-GL-1ST-T-FLX&emcid=em-1s-500574#enemy-types
(doesn't include variants)
strange vine
