Helldivers 2: For Managed Democracy!

[dusty spruce]

It is an impure device, clearly lacking the arc's brilliance

[junior badge]

IMO, it needs a slightly more aggressive lock-on and just a touch more damage - guaranteed one-shots, not just "usually", on some targets.

[glacial light]

Does the spear use a backback slot?

[graceful bluff]

oh, it's apparently not just 3 shots

it's until you stop firing

[honest acorn]

Same I'm sitting on a bunch rn trying to decide if I want to save for the new premium wb or just spend it on the free one

[honest acorn]

yes

[junior badge]

Yes.

[rotund marten]

I just want to max out the free one because everything else looks like it will be way easier

[glacial light]

How does it compare to RR?

Assuming lockon is fixed

[graceful bluff]

found a random video as an example https://youtu.be/LC-psKtqY4w?t=320

look at how it just tears the charger apart

[rotund marten]

if I can almost max Helldivers Mobilize and Steel Veterans in this short a time it really won't be tricky to do the new premium ones

although the medal cap is 250 so it's not like you can bank enough medals to do the entire thing anyway

[dusty spruce]

I think recoilless is better against the bugs, while spear is better against bots. Spear can just oneshot cannon turrets and tanks, and is a bit more dependable in that case than against chargers/biles, which need some longer range for it to hit their head

[junior badge]

And it can take out fabs at long range.

[dusty spruce]

Joking aside, I do think the Spear is great... as long as someone who isn't me is using it

It really just doesn't work for me

[oak crow]

to be honest, neither premium excites me much yet, so i'll probably just save up my supercredits. if the next still isn't my vibe, i'll probably go for Steel Vet for the incendiary grenades and the revolver.

[rotund marten]

spear irritates me because it's most consistent in situations where you least need a high burst low ammo count guided weapon, when you're sitting 100m away and have all the time in the world to line up a regular RR or rocket shot

[glacial light]

If they would make lock on more consistent I'd love to use it more, but it's the lockon not locking onto cannon towers or randomly deciding the strider 2 feet away is the target

[rotund marten]

when I really want to not bother aiming is when there's four chargers on my arse and I need to stop for no longer than 0.62 seconds lest I be ragdolled into a pack of hunters

but it is not so great there

[dusty spruce]

I'm excited to see how the commando is, now that the official stuff for it says it is laser guided, instead of being a heat-seeker

[rotund marten]

cannon towers I've started either shooting from extreme range with the Scorcher/AC or running up and dunking with grenade launcher/impacts

[graceful bluff]

with the scorcher?

[rotund marten]

scorcher at range is interesting because if you're directly behind the tower it will die before it can turn away

[graceful bluff]

huyh

[oak crow]

the heavier machine gun and the missile silo seem fun. missile silo seems great for clearing out nests and factories solo.

[rotund marten]

yes, it kills a tank or tower with less than a magazine to the vents

kills a charger in about the same to the abdomen but that's a harder shot

[graceful bluff]

I do like that we have MACHINE GUN, HEAVY MACHINE GUN, HEAVIER MACHINE GUN

[glacial light]

I wonder if multiple missile silos will fire all at once or one by one

[oak crow]

Stalwart, MG and HMG is a fun little series.

[glacial light]

I could see silo being good if you just stockpile them for a heavy nest

[dusty spruce]

I think one by one ||in leaked videos of them they drop a laser desginator that you have to use to mark where it goes||

[glacial light]

Yes but what about heaviest machine gun

[graceful bluff]

autocannon

[oak crow]

that's the HMG Emplacement stratagem

which i think i've seen used once lmao

[honest acorn]

380mm barrage

[oak crow]

may actually be good on robo defense missions tho

[quick plinth]

380mm barrage has too large of an area to be remotely useful

[honest acorn]

After the buff its pretty good

[agile fable]

i think some terminids deserve a far larger caliber than what's being used

[honest acorn]

I think the CD is a bit too long but it actually kills things now

[agile fable]

i say we pull out the old .950 cal

[junior badge]

don't forget gatling barrage

that's gotta be in the line of machine guns too

[quick plinth]

My problem is that the 380 in the hands of randoms just ends up being more detrimental than anything

[honest acorn]

Yeah its hard to use without comms

[lethal dagger]

380 feels weirdly consistent at dealing with bile titans

[honest acorn]

Since it has a 50-70 meter kill radius

[oak crow]

even in the hands of friends, it's a pretty detrimental lol

[quick plinth]

not to mention I haven't once seen it clear anything unless we were doing a funny and stacking like 4 of them

[dusty spruce]

Obivously we need a punt gun in helldivers

[glacial light]

Ok but what if we combined Gatling and 380mm where the ship just has like 10 machine guns and it just Gatling barrages a wide area like the upcoming carpet bomb strat but bullets

[honest acorn]

I've seen it take out bot bases pretty well

And nests... sort of well

[glacial light]

I think laser is more reliable than 380mm, but it does have a CD of 300 than 240 and limited uses

[quick plinth]

this game truly does feel like everyone is indeed playing it differently and thus experiencing different things

the 120 however is nice

I just drop it on eggs and walk away

works wonders

[glacial light]

Out of the barrages, walking is still my favorite

[honest acorn]

Airburst for me

[quick plinth]

unfortunately- a napalm eagle on the eggs is much faster and better

[quick plinth]

yea, airburst is gold

[glacial light]

The consistency and being able to almost guarantee a destruction on light and medium is great

[quick plinth]

you throw it on a bug breach and it rips

[honest acorn]

Short CD, flattens the shit out of anything it can kill and sticks around long enough to kill multiple waves of bugs

[junior badge]

Completely agreed. It's one of the best and most reliable stratagems.

[glacial light]

I think I'm gearing towards airburst since gas was a bust

[oak crow]

"Kitchen Sink Bombardment" - Orbital Gatling, 180, 380 and idk, maybe something equivalent to a 500kg bomb.

[honest acorn]

Post nerf I think airburst outperforms gas

[quick plinth]

Gas is still nice for when you get a chokepoint

[oak crow]

if that were an actual suggestion, i'd replace the 380 with something like a clusterbomb lol

[quick plinth]

otherwise it's airburst all the way

[honest acorn]

Gas can also kill funny things with direct hits

[glacial light]

For the 500kg bullet equivalent it's just a rod of god giant tungsten rod from orbit

[junior badge]

Something I never see mentioned: Smoke. Doesn't seem to do enough for stealth or survivability, doesn't it?

[graceful bluff]

smokes great

[quick plinth]

Smoke is good against high tier bots

as in

7+

[junior badge]

I wonder if smoke / ems grenades are gonna benefit from the GL pistol, once that arrives.

[glacial light]

Survivalibility it's good for bots since bots do not really shoot into smoke

[honest acorn]

Smoke is actually very strong but its hard to justify not bringing something which kills

[glacial light]

And it has like 75 cd

[rare nymph]

I’ve had pretty good experiences with the 380

[glacial light]

But cyan has a point it's better to kill then to CC at this point except EMS mortar

[honest acorn]

I think with better organized teams you can use smoke for basically free objectives

[junior badge]

Yeah, that's kinda my experience - it's nice, but not crucial and we only have 4 slots at best, so it gets left home.

Huh.

[honest acorn]

Enemies just don't shoot at or advance into smoke

[quick plinth]

however if I can just bring

[honest acorn]

It's basically invisibility

[quick plinth]

I dont need anything else on bot missions

chuck a stratagem and leave the base to die

[oak crow]

seeing as this is the lancer server - what do you guys think of the mech(s)

[quick plinth]

its more of a weapons platform

[honest acorn]

pretty good

[quick plinth]

youre just a mobile rocket and gatling turret

with arguably worse aim

[agile fable]

they're alright

[rare nymph]

I love using them to clear stalker lairs

[oak crow]

to be honest, i haven't really used them on bots much yet, but they seem fairly strong on bugs, and not nearly as flimsy as i've heard from others.

[quick plinth]

it's a lot of gun to back up your more squishy friends

[rare nymph]

Try bullying me now, bugs

[glacial light]

Yea I see it as a mobile turret, a weapons platform is apt description, it is not a tank it's to dakka dakka

[honest acorn]

I wish you had a chance to bail out if they got wrecked though

[oak crow]

very excited for the teased/rumored Emancipator variant tho

[quick plinth]

basically they're just meant to provide fire support but not take any hits themselves

[glacial light]

Mechs are great on defensive objective or soloing heavy bug nests

[quick plinth]

which makes taking mechs against bots questionable when so many enemies fire rockets like its free

[honest acorn]

They're pretty survivable vs bots if you're good at using enfilades and keeping your front towards enemy

[rare nymph]

It is a lot of fun when one of your friends is about to get overrun but then you crest a hill and start laying into the horde

[quick plinth]

especially when half the time you can clear most bot outposts by just throwing a stratagem and leaving

[glacial light]

I always bring mechs on bugs

[keen zinc]

[quick plinth]

but yeah

against bugs they're great

[glacial light]

It lasts a pretty good amount of time if you use rockets sparingly

[honest acorn]

Once the 40mm mech exists I think they'll be better vs bots

[quick plinth]

40 what

[glacial light]

It's like hold LMB for a no ads for 4 minutes

[keen zinc]

[quick plinth]

the length of the cartirge here is vital

[honest acorn]

The gun the AC sentry has

[oak crow]

have you heard about the Emancipator? iirc teased on one of the Helldivers accounts, it's a 4-autocannon wielding mech.

[rare nymph]

Also, the charger can now get one-shot by mech rockets, which is nice

[honest acorn]

That's the one I'm talking about haha

[oak crow]

it sounds wonderful against bots lol

[quick plinth]

40×46 mm
40×311 mm R

very different things

[south temple]

battletech-maxxing

[rare nymph]

Fun size vs king size

[jolly mortar]

the description for it lists it as being heavily armored, too, and I'm real curious as to how much more it can take

[oak crow]

personally i'm waiting for one with a melee weapon (imo unlikely) and one with a laser weapon. i don't like the laser weapons much (prefer kinetics) but the ability to have a mech which doesn't run out of ammo sounds wonderful.

[quick plinth]

im sorry (gun nerd mode)

[honest acorn]

This is actually pretty obvious with context and doesn't need like 5 posts

[glacial light]

I want an armored core mech with a sword, tower shield, and boosters

[keen zinc]

Real Gs think the girlies on both right and left are just as beautiful

[quick plinth]

I mean- a mech with a 40mm AGL would be pretty rad

[glacial light]

I'm taking the melee fight to the bugs

[honest acorn]

The weird little mech in MGS5 feels like it would be more at home in HD2 than its home game

[quick plinth]

but yes the 40mm AC mech would be really nice

[oak crow]

i want one with an MG and a sword or a flamethrower and a sword. would be wonderful against bugs.

[quick plinth]

though I feel like it would be very strong

so keeping it relatively squishy might be for the best

[glacial light]

I have not seen that one but yes I doubt we'll see a super agile melee mech in HD2

[oak crow]

yeah

sadly, it doesn't seem to fit

[honest acorn]

this little guy

[glacial light]

What's the MGSV mech

[graceful bluff]

Sharing the braincell again I see

[glacial light]

If you told me that was concept art for a patriot variant I'd believe you

[jolly mortar]

I loved that goofy ass mech

[quick plinth]

goofy box

[dusty spruce]

D walker also had a fun zappy gun

[sinful bay]

Give me backstab damage

let me one shot the robots that i melee from behind

[graceful bluff]

I still love how instead of having a dedicated gun thing, it's just two hands holding pistols

[oak crow]

I want a patriot with a hellbomb inside

[quick plinth]

you can actually

if you aim the melee up

[jolly mortar]

would love to have one in this, honestly. as a sort of counter to the bot walker.

[sinful bay]

👁️

[glacial light]

I'm guessing the only melee that'll probably happen is if they add in that saber from HD1 that had high pen

[quick plinth]

it can hit the head and kill them quickly

[honest acorn]

Also for scale - its small

[glacial light]

That'd be so sick

[quick plinth]

this makes a lot more sense now

[jolly mortar]

favorite part about how tiny it is, is that Venom has to crouch while riding it.

[honest acorn]

the fiat 500 of mechs

[jolly mortar]

it's both too small to stand up in or sit down in.

[fringe quiver]

Tbh I'd run a Saber build

[quick plinth]

give me the Citroen Ami of mechs

[jolly mortar]

so he has to do this SUPER uncomfortable looking squat.

[honest acorn]

MGS5 and Helldivers feel weirdly similar in their movement and gunplay too

[jolly mortar]

very much so yeah

[quick plinth]

I mean

the stealth gameplay is also fun

[keen zinc]

Hm

[rich marlin]

My hubris rn is hopping on to do a single mission 20 minutes before I have to leave to go to work

[keen zinc]

Fuckin SVGs

[quick plinth]

SVGs?

[glacial light]

I feel like saber and ballistic shield as a foot infantry is so hell divers

[quick plinth]

find a blitz

easy

[honest acorn]

vector graphics - pictures discord hates in this context

[quick plinth]

ah

[glacial light]

You have a cheap sword and a cheap block of steel, go fight economically so we don't need to spend ammo

[honest acorn]

Don't do this it made me 10 minutes late to class

[keen zinc]

Type of image file

[quick plinth]

I've never heard of them weirdly enough (for context I'm like, a digital arts student)

[keen zinc]

But doesn't embed or display correctly outside of programs made to display them

[glacial light]

SVGs are uncommon in public use they're meant for lossless vector graphic design that doesn't loss quality when you zoom in or out cause it rasterizes the lines so because they're calculated you don't get pixelization when working with them

[honest acorn]

The big advantage is that they can be losslessly resized

[glacial light]

Useful for graphic design logos and CNC printing

[oblique lotus]

SVGs are vector, aren't they?

yeah

[quick plinth]

yes I know that much about vector graphics, its great (I tend to use them a lot in ilustrator)

since the whole program operates on vectors

[glacial light]

Does illustrator default to svgs? I try not to use adobe

[quick plinth]

no

default project saving is their own proprietary format

[glacial light]

Ah makes sense

[honest acorn]

Oh yeah that makes sense then

[quick plinth]

but you can export to just about any file format

[glacial light]

I use inkscape and they default export to svg

[quick plinth]

unfortunately Adobe chains me to Windows

but uh we're kinda getting off topic

[honest acorn]

That's fair

I gotta say I am digging the Charger changes

They feel way better now

[quick plinth]

yeah though I feel like it would've been fine if they just changed their head health but not the spawnrate

[dusty spruce]

Same, they don't feel like a time sink anymore

[quick plinth]

maybe just reduce the amount of BTs

oh hey

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v46cF5MRD90

Provocative titles are still alive and well

[glacial light]

Idk I like the change to bug heavies, you don't need everyone to bring 2 heavy killing strats and opens up room for ad clear which you need a lot of

If you want heavy spam bots are the way to go

[quick plinth]

I mean that's fair

bots have heavier mediums

[keen zinc]

The only life for me

[quick plinth]

esp the heavy devastators

[glacial light]

So like how do you not die with that loadout I tried it against bots and die like instantly

[quick plinth]

where did you find these

[keen zinc]

There is a GitHub with the SVGs and I converted them

[quick crown]

This is it

This is who i was yesterday,

It felt great to run ahead and clear eggs with one 500K

[keen zinc]

My loadout is Punisher, Senator, Impact Grenades

Wearing this

[keen zinc]

Me every day

[glacial light]

What does thay armor do

I tried it with heavy armor

[quick plinth]

my usual bot loadout

[keen zinc]

I use this load out for everything

[quick plinth]

with the super commando armor it's great

I face tanked missiles

but that's heavy armor +

[keen zinc]

Padded armor

+50 armor rating, on an ultralight armor

[quick plinth]

ah yeah

[keen zinc]

So has maximum speed and stamina with medium level armor

[quick plinth]

Light gunner is what I usually run for bots too

[glacial light]

Maybe the assault infantry life isn't for me

[keen zinc]

Running running and running running and running running

[keen zinc]

I can't go back

I must close and engage with the enemy by means of fire and maneuver

[glacial light]

I have learned that GL is a good autocannon alternative if you want a backpack

[sinful bay]

I wish I had grabbed light gunner
BUT
Light armor medic gives a TON of survivability too

[glacial light]

I used it against bots and it fulfilled a ton of similar roles to autocannon

[quick plinth]

any medic armor is insane

[keen zinc]

Mantra of my life

I may be out of the infantry but the infantry ain't out of me

[quick plinth]

any <@&1206091872716595200> feel like spreading democracy?

[dusty spruce]

I love the robo arm, because I get to throw things far. May change later to some of the teased armor, because I must return to my Hazard Ops set
~~I just hope it has an interesting perk that isn't just more '+2 grenades, +2 stims, crouch better' ~~

Please keep the armor perks interesting as opposed to slotting everything into the same three options

[keen zinc]

I hope the new armors aren't just blatantly overpowered

[quick plinth]

power creep doesn't seem like their kinda deal

[vestal trail]

The ones coming tomorrow have 95% Arc Resist

[sinful bay]

a

[quick plinth]

that is however a very specific

but good thing

[honest acorn]

Is that it?

[dusty spruce]

Two of them are, I think one isn't

[hot meadow]

TBQH this seems backwards to how it should work to me, but I appreciate the info!

[keen zinc]

Massive cringe

[hot meadow]

Why?

[keen zinc]

An armor being either essential or absolutely useless is bad

[glacial light]

Honestly I feel like it should be an environmental suit that provides resistance to arc and either fire or corrosive gas

[hot meadow]

Should keep my wife alive when she inevitably get down mr presidents in front of me as I’m arc throwing

[keen zinc]

Yeah but that's a reactive trait instead of a proper passive

[quick plinth]

it doesn't augment your gameplay

its a passive buff

[keen zinc]

Against one specific thing that only you or allies can do to you

[sinful bay]

'absolutely useless is bad'
So, heavy armor in higher difficulty? /j

[vestal trail]

Sure, but given how with tomorrow we'll have exactly 2 sources of arc damage, both of which would be friendly fire, 95% arc resist is Super Mega Hyper Specific

[quick plinth]

just wait till the illuminate

[vestal trail]

I don't recall the Squids having Arc in HD1? But I could be wrong

[quick plinth]

I mean

isn't Arc tech based on theirs?

[dusty spruce]

Yes

The walkers in HD1 especially had a little zappy gun

it didn't arc

but they tazed you to death up close

[vestal trail]

Fair 'nuff

[upbeat vector]

Isn't it 3 sources?

[vestal trail]

Real question though, will the Squids fuck up our controls again

[vestal trail]

Oh right there is the turret

[hot meadow]

I do expect arc damage from enemy sources eventually

But I’m incredibly attached to my light armor with extra padding

[upbeat vector]

Which like, the ability to do things other than die when walking up to a tesla turret feels quite useful imo

[honest acorn]

There's a datamined "Hallucinate" effect

[dusty spruce]

The turret is the big one for that armor ||videos of it have shown that the armor lets you tank 4-6 tesla tower shots before it kills you||

[honest acorn]

Which sounds similar

[upbeat vector]

Opens up strategies like baiting enemies into/off of them, etc

[honest acorn]

Also to clarify - I meant this more as wondering about the source

[upbeat vector]

(I know that it doesn't target you when prone, but it will still zap you if you are prone and an enemy walks into it's range)

[honest acorn]

Since there's a lot of leaks and a lot of... speculation

[quick plinth]

I just realised why some parts of HD2 felt so familiar

it's the capes

they remind me of D2

[glacial light]

Eyes up Helldivers

[keen zinc]

I'm likely never gonna take off my Light Gunner armor unless they add something with a coat

[modest fiber]

<@&1206091872716595200> its time to do my part, am once again requesting for more dudes

[dusty spruce]

What kind of coat? The All-Terrain type of the light sorta trench gear used by the Hero/Ranger stuff from HD1?

[modest fiber]

uuhh a nice snow trooper drip

[keen zinc]

I will never not want to be a desert ranger

[sinful bay]

I want helmetst hat protecc against headshot ;w;

[glacial light]

Granted but you take more damage from body shots

[dusty spruce]

I hope they bring back the REP-80 as well

That thing was hella fun

[honest acorn]

Which thing was that?

Oh yeah I'd love that

(Medigun support weapon basically)

[dusty spruce]

I imagine it'll be nerfed a little compared to how it was

It had unlimited ammo and healed people to full in under a second

[honest acorn]

probably the 3rd person gives it much more power

Compared with the constrained screen

[barren warren]

https://fxtwitter.com/rocks_bridget/status/1767943710652731686?s=20

[glacial light]

At least half the time someone says they're stimming we need to do the autism thing

[agile fable]

Yea

[glacial light]

Mod to replace stim with weighted pen

Clickity click click

[granite rivet]

i'm autistic and i've never heard the term "stimming" to refer to the movements/sounds i make for no reason lmao

[quick crown]

"Helldiver, we are sending down a textured sheet of glass, it should aid you"

[granite rivet]

at least not before like last year

[quick crown]

Me rubbing my helmet against it
Its not working sir

[granite rivet]

super earth be like "how can we weaponize autism"

[quick crown]

This thought comes from me staring at the holotables surface and wondering how it would feel to push my face against it.

Would it be warm?

[oblique storm]

That's why the buttoms are like that

all the arrow keys

[quick crown]

Would it feel like one of those plasma TVs with the gel?

We will never know...

[granite rivet]

https://youtu.be/lAShOiYZqV4?si=J3iNo6yvWcG1Qs8o

[rich marlin]

Been thinking about the IC reason we use arrows instead of like numbers and the meta explanation is that its a gameplay mechanic that adds a bit of complexity but like:

IC Super Earth puts its Helldivers through so little training its easier to do little arrow pictographs than number codes which might require the ability to understand numbers

Idk, I'm bored and brain wants to speculate

[wind arrow]

we do know helldivers recognize numbers due to countdowns and like, sub objective X

[oak crow]

i also imagine it helps stop automatons who don't know the codes from simply stealing stratagem orbs off of a corpse and bombing the divers/calling reinforcements into a trap

knowing a special input code rather than just writing out to call down a bombardment or something may be why

[wind arrow]

hell, coordinates terminals indicates at least someone reads letter-number combinations

[oak crow]

each squad has a dedicated reader

[wind arrow]

it's really funny to imagine that

[meager saffron]

the funniest part about this is that the gem jammers have human Ui

since you have to use a touchscreen to enable a hellbomb callin

I get that this is because the automatons are using super earth tech but it's also very funny to imagine they literally cannot read it

[rich marlin]

Half tactical consideration half just keeping it as simple as possible so they don't have to worry about recruits reading levels

[glacial light]

It has built in captcha

I mean there's 9 numbers and only 4 cardinal directions. That's less than half of things to memorize!

[stark ether]

have yall noticed bots stare at their arm for a bit before sending up a flare

[rich marlin]

Yes

[stark ether]

are they doing a strategem code

[glacial light]

Are they calling in a reinforcement stratagem

[wind arrow]

dear liberty

[rich marlin]

I think its hiw they activate their 'bot drop' sos beacon

[wind arrow]

are the automatons recycled helldivers?

[glacial light]

The fan theory that automatons are deprogrammed Helldivers

[stark ether]

wait

what if we're all actually bots but SE just makes us think we're humans but drops the no you're totally human bits for the bots because they're rebelling

[rich marlin]

Well just be aware that Super Earth is the cause of all its own problems

Idk about the canon lore anout the bots

[glacial light]

Hey not all it's problem when I vote I am responsible for my own problems thanks to the algorithm that votes for me hey wait-

[wind arrow]

hmm... does static field affect pelican 1?

[alpine seal]

i want a super commissar to look at its arm and throw a red line stratagem at us

machine eagle. shrike or something

[rich marlin]

Those thoughts sound super unpatriotic there Helldiver

[glacial light]

It'd be funny if in order to have Helldivers do anything someone has to throw a Call in Helldivers reinforcement stratagem

One poor guy jumping down into a terminid infested planet to call in helldivers

[rich marlin]

Who said the civilians didn't 🤔

[glacial light]

It's a stratagems all the way down

Vote by throwing stratagems at the algorithm

Every UI in super Earth space just uses arrows to train helldivers

[dusty spruce]

the arrows are captcha to keep the automatons out

Bots use numbers, and you’re not a bot are you? /s

[glacial light]

Numbers are a gateway to binary and that's for automaton sympathizers

[rich marlin]

I specifically reported my math teacher to the Ministry of Truth because they used numbers like the bots

No way I was gonna let my classmates suffer

[glacial light]

Super Earth doesn't use binary with it's communist 1s and 0s, they use quadnary up, down, left, right in it's circuits

It's why our technology is so advanced such as our sentry IFF, stratagem beacons being necessary for eagles, and of course arrow keys

[blissful sparrow]

love me some Quarternions in my basic maths

[granite rivet]

As cool as it would be if enemies had strategems it would end up being very frustrating to get blasted by a bot strafing run or a whole bunch of bug mortars out of the blue

Also random armor perk I'd like but being able to see the map/motion sensor without needing to pull it up

[glacial light]

Every bug suddenly has an arc thrower and shield pack

[junior badge]

man, I really don't know how bot defense/eradicate is supposed to work anymore. There's no perimeter you can defend, so you're just constantly under fire from all directions

and then I land two pods on top of tanks to 0 effect

[glacial light]

Yea the pod just spawns on top of tanks and you just come out of one

The most recent bot eradicate we had to cheese it on diff 7 by spawning on top of a rocket and throwing stratagems and grenades down

[barren iron]

I dont mind eradicates

you just need to like

shoot them

I know that's unhelpful but idk any other advice

blow them the hell up

[barren warren]

the bot one is usually the fort with little central area, right?

[barren iron]

Yeah

[dusty spruce]

Yes. It got fixed a little too hard, not only do you get much heavier spawns, they added a route in back for the bots to come directly up the hill, and they will also just spawn things directly up on top of them hill.

[barren iron]

The two forts

[keen zinc]

Yeah it sucks

[tidal wing]

it needed a buff but unfortunately like with the heavy spawns they buffed it Too Much

[stone bridge]

Yeah they went a bit too far in the other direction

I imagine the patch dropping tonight will help fix that

Since the TCS missions draw from the same elevated spawn pool

[keen zinc]

Patch tonight?

[keen zinc]

???

[blissful sparrow]

the new battlepass will drop in about 12 hours

[kindred lintel]

time to stay up

[glad orchid]

Oh dang, new battlepass

Haven't even unlocked the current DLC one

[graceful bluff]

Speaking of battlepass, anyone wanna farm supercredits/medals in chill low level bugs?

[honest acorn]

Patch tonight 👀

[hexed steeple]

lmao

[quartz cloak]

Wait what?

[honest acorn]

Patch 2night Arrowhead 👀??

[graceful bluff]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-AgtknHfDhI

[keen zinc]

Wait does it drop at midnight?

I thought it was tomorrow

[glad orchid]

It's March 14th

[honest acorn]

I’m guessing 4-5 am est tomorrow

[quick plinth]

because Sweden

[blissful sparrow]

all their patches sofar have been at <t:1710410400:t>

[honest acorn]

Based on about when the last ones have been

[keen zinc]

Oh pog it'll be live when I awaken from my slumber

[barren iron]

12 hours?

[honest acorn]

Oh, I guess I was off by - wait no I wasn’t spring forward happened since then

1 sleep away

[barren warren]

https://tenor.com/view/kermit-muppets-christmas-carol-christmas-eve-gif-24022370

patchmas

[graceful bluff]

<@&1206091872716595200> gonna be farming common samples/supercredits a bit

also you weren't kidding with the achievement spam @stoic lotus lmao

[stoic lotus]

yeah lol I got so many on the first one

[kindred lintel]

only got 5 left for me

[pale remnant]

Coinflip armour is really good for the top one

[merry cosmos]

Has in divers who saw the truth

[glacial light]

I still haven't healed someone else with a stim despite 52 hours

[stoic lotus]

I did it on my first mission

[wind arrow]

i did it pretty early on as well, as a support backpack main

[merry cosmos]

I give the comrades injections on a regular basis

🏳️‍⚧️

[stoic lotus]

how will my fellow helldivers fight for managed democracy without their estradiol valerate

oh lol same brain

[wind arrow]

at this point, i'm partially incentivized to switch from my p2w armor to a stim enhance armor

[graceful bluff]

https://vxtwitter.com/rocks_bridget/status/1767943710652731686

[wind arrow]

calling it p2w is a joke, note

[rich marlin]

This is something about an Achievement in Helldivers:

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C4LY6_2rJ4R/?igsh=MXRva2hxYm50Z3k1eg==

rivtekk

How is this so rare? #helldivers2 #helldivers #gaming #fyp #reels

Likes

11674

Instagram

[stoic lotus]

I was gonna head off for the night but I think I'll come join you nalesh

[lilac copper]

Stims are actually testosterone and all the helldivers are transmasc at different points of their transition

[merry cosmos]

Me

[wind arrow]

(the premium track page 1 armor that potentially causes you to roll LANCER custom paint job die)

[merry cosmos]

Just realized estrogen is a mech pilot drug

So it makes sense

[glacial light]

We have the super freedom to let us choose our hormones with managed democracy

[merry cosmos]

The MT EXO pilots take e on the reg

[graceful bluff]

I know that comic

[merry cosmos]

I dont know that comic

[merry cosmos]

Do they get chosen for us?

[glacial light]

Yesn't

Out of all the hormones you can democratically have you get 2 choices in the end

[merry cosmos]

T and E?

[agile fable]

Testrogen and Estosterone

[merry cosmos]

Would it even be hrt or some form of hyper advanced procedure that completely replaces whatever you had

[glacial light]

The secret is they're actually the same drug but it somehow works

No terminid rapid evolutionary DNA strands was likely used in the making of this drug

[agile fable]

it totally was but just like the fascism no one recognizes it

[merry cosmos]

You say that has if super earth wouldn't proudly announce they reverse engineered them for medical technology

[agile fable]

they use the damn critters for fuel, i think reverse engineering their rapid evolution is nothing compared to that

[honest acorn]

Helldivers canonically has genetically changing body spray

(From the eagle sweat ad)

[rare nymph]

Just had my extract blocked by a dead charger

Love to see it

[glacial light]

I've been on super earths HRT (helldiver replacement therapy) for years but since I'm not allowed to take off my armor I haven't seen the results

[muted burrow]

a friend has gifted this to me, i'm think it might explode my laptop so i'll try after i put my computer together ☺️

[glad marsh]

:0
New recruits!

[graceful bluff]

<@&1206091872716595200> low level runs with a newbie

[muted burrow]

[granite rivet]

i can help out

[graceful bluff]

83616638

[keen zinc]

Today is my Friday at work so I am good to stay up late tonight spreading mongered democracy

Managed

[granite rivet]

mongered democracy works too

[keen zinc]

Freedom-monger

[wind arrow]

freedom? mongrel

[keen zinc]

I am a Helldiver, like my father before me, and his father before him, and his father was a fishmonger

[azure pewter]

Damaged memeocracy

[keen zinc]

How many fish have you mongered

Do you even know?

[agile fable]

how many breads have you eaten in your life?

[verbal summit]

Yaay

[glacial light]

I eat nothing but helldiver rations as is my patriotic duty

The first captain of my super destroyer never opted for super microwave in her ship so the funds can go towards an 1/10000ths of a stratagem for the war effort

We removed the kitchen to fit in more explosives

[agile fable]

that's not good

a satisfied and full helldiver is a much more efficient helldiver

[glacial light]

I eat my daily 4000 calories of dry rations a day

[oak crow]

Helldivers eat Super McDonaldies (legally distinct) every day

[glacial light]

I go above and beyond and eat even more

[oak crow]

(Super McDonaldies are flavored nutrient paste packets)

[keen zinc]

My Helldiver eats Super Campbell's® Super Chunky® Super Soup, the Soup That Eats Like a Super Meal®

[glacial light]

Helldivers giving their lives to get a little toy in their hell diver meals

[muted burrow]

[verbal summit]

We get to play together the 1 time the stars (and timezones) align.

[muted burrow]

true!

lemme know on weekends

[glacial light]

Who <@&1206091872716595200> else be playing

[keen zinc]

https://youtu.be/0AUIrNCETS0?si=bX7lxEQYhWvAsxQD

[muted burrow]

[keen zinc]

[glacial light]

Uh anyone else having connection errors

[umbral temple]

steam is being funny rn

[glacial light]

I'm not laughing steam

[umbral temple]

its not a very good comedian unfortunately :(

[glacial light]

Ok i'm finally able to stay in the game

RIP no bites

Curse you responsibilities and work

[graceful bluff]

@glacial light we got room now

[glacial light]

Ope i've got a 3 person group going

[graceful bluff]

ah no problem

[raven quarry]

while I am a big proponent of "big spinny gun" and am also named Tommy, the age is wrong (and I also haven't played Helldivers)
appreciate the ping though :P

[rotund marten]

I assumed it wasn't quite dead on but it did seem like something you'd do

[glacial light]

<@&1206091872716595200> I am once again requesting reinforcements

[rich marlin]

https://twitter.com/Azlaar/status/1767952636702007497?t=bv3D48g-UoITcGACzDgXNw&s=19

Ali Qaiser (@Azlaar) on X

My #Helldivers2 Mobile Wallpaper collection so far!

All available for free, link in the comment below.

Twitter · Mar 13, 2024, 4:35 PM

All those Cool helldiver wallpapers in one place

[glacial light]

My fav personally

[rich marlin]

Ive got the ship one as my lock screen

[quick plinth]

this game is great fun

like

the first few months of playing DRG fun

the cooperation is great

[rich marlin]

It really is

[quick plinth]

and so is the sheer variety of stuff you can do (loadouts)

[rich marlin]

Despite some if the rotten vibes i do love the rp around it

Has the same vibes of DRG folks always going 'rock and stone'

[unreal merlin]

HD2 shares a lot of notes with DRG.

[glacial light]

If you manage to ignore the community it's a great game

Everything has a niche and playstyle that's valid and fun

[unreal merlin]

For better or worse. You'll find DRG elitists, just as you'll find HD2 elitists. Either way they're fun games.

[rich marlin]

Ignore the community, pay attention to pnet Helldive community

[barren warren]

A lot of my quickplay micless has been fun and simple

[cobalt patrol]

<@&1206091872716595200> get in here folks

[barren warren]

Being able to just quit out helps

[keen zinc]

Gimme a few minutes

[rich marlin]

I'm starting to enjoy spinning up the easy difficulty and helping newbs

[barren warren]

Yeah! I do that often

[keen zinc]

I just got off work so I wanna do EZ difficulty

5-

[glacial light]

0714-4835

[eager pine]

<@&1206091872716595200> Anyone wanna grind trivials for super credits so we have enough for the Warbond releasing tomorrow?

[keen zinc]

gimme 5

[oak crow]

can’t access the comments for some reason, could you send the link to the wallpapers?

[quick plinth]

https://youtu.be/2ya6eBBwxaI

[rich marlin]

One sec!

https://payhip.com/Azlaar/collection/helldivers-2

There it is

[quick plinth]

what is the strategy behind running trivials for super credits?

[eager pine]

@quick plinth Trivials spawn a lot of minor POIs in a circle without the risk of anything else really taking their place.

[quick plinth]

ah, so it increases the chances of SC spawning

[eager pine]

Yeah

[rotund marten]

would be cute to have "storm a bunker to stop X" secondary objectives with some random loot in them somewhere

[copper crest]

And also difficulty 1-3 don’t spawn rare samples as a POI reward

[eager pine]

That too

[quick plinth]

speaking of

how many simple samples on avreage is possible in a trivial

[rich marlin]

Uh usually like 10-17 (usually averaging lower) i think?

It feels like a lot for how small the maps are

Its finding them thats usually the problem

[keen zinc]

okay so if you leave the evac zone after the countdown but before pelican arrives

he fucking LOITERS IN THE AIR AND SHOOTS SHIT

GUNSHIP

[eager pine]

ANd he has like hundreds of meters of range

[keen zinc]

he shot down a dropship!

[eager pine]

Really ahndy against bots but potentially catastrophic against bugs. XD

But also really handy against bugs

[rich marlin]

Pelican is the MVP

[meager sandal]

mech strat is even better because you get a drop ship

[keen zinc]

pelican-1s gun can kill bile titans

so idk

[stone bridge]

I mean

[eager pine]

The dropship only sicks around for like 2 secfonds though.

[stone bridge]

Pelican 1 is what drops in your mech

Same 40mm autocannon gun

[eager pine]

The model looked different to me

[stone bridge]

The point is its the same gun

[naive dragon]

I am starting to get the hang of scythe

Cycling between hipfiring it and laser cannon while laser dog is primed

I am the beam

[honest acorn]

Pelican 1 has 2 of them but I think they are basically the AC sentry gun

Which is admittedly an extremely good gun

[eager pine]

Ok, I'm not saying it's a different gun. I'm saying that the mech dropship only sticks around long enough to drop the mech so it's much less good than Pelecan 1

[keen zinc]

pelican will loiter indefinitely so long as nobody enters the evac zone

[naive dragon]

I need more laser

And more arc

[eager pine]

Tomorrow

[stone bridge]

Tonight for me

I'm excited

[stone bridge]

Then we're talking past each other and we're in agreement, actually

[naive dragon]

Lightning is such a cool power

[jolly mortar]

pretty excited to get hands-on with that arc shotgun

[honest acorn]

I'm curious if the armor will really be arc resist

I'm actually kind of hyped for that

I love the Arc Tower

[pale remnant]

arc tower is very funny

[honest acorn]

Arc Shotgun+Arc Thrower+Arc Tower+Arc Pistol (in my dreams)

https://tenor.com/view/elmo-storm-thunder-rain-rainy-day-gif-26704445

[pale remnant]

did an eradicate mission with 3 friends where we all brought it and it was chaos

so much teamkilling

[honest acorn]

It's disgustingly good now that chargers have weaker heads

[kindred lintel]

ivn't seen it against chargers

[honest acorn]

Ok I am overrating it with that

[kindred lintel]

can it kill them

[honest acorn]

But it is good

Yes though its not the fastest

I think its 5-7 head hits ish

But its fast enough you can mostly kill one while it charges you, dodge it, and finish it off

[oblique lotus]

I saw a thing about how a stratagem costs more than a super earth citizen makes in a year

and then I noticed that stinger missiles allegedly cost $400k per unit

so maybe we're getting a decent deal on our stratagems

[upbeat vector]

Or maybe super earth citizens don't make much

[oblique lotus]

median pay in the US is $45k/yr

[agile fable]

as sable said

[oblique lotus]

yeah

well, my point was more that modern stratagem equivalents already cost a shitload more than what people make in a year

so if strats "only" cost more than someone makes rather than multiples of their salary that's quite possibly an improvement over the US

[glacial light]

Or because of the immense war industry the cost of stratagems are essentially nothing compared to modern day

The biggest industry of scale effect

[honest acorn]

This might just be social commentary tbh

[glacial light]

Social commentary? In my satire game?!

https://www.vxtiktok.com/t/ZTLNepkK7/

[keen zinc]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYjTKFQrxz8

[jolly mortar]

I remember someone here asking about HD2 merch. Not much, but this got posted in the official discord. https://gear.playstation.com/Browse/HD

[spice roost]

Aesop Rock mention

[keen zinc]

my helldivers soundtrack

[rich marlin]

Idk what this loadout is but it looks like a fun way to kill your teammates

Also good fashion! I like that helmet and armor together

[mortal wing]

Hello it's officially thr 14th here. Where is my update. /s

[dusty spruce]

toasty

[burnt vapor]

What it looks like on non-democratic worlds

[honest acorn]

Man… termicide tower missions are tough with bile spewers

[burnt vapor]

The arty ones or the normal ones?

[rich marlin]

I swear Helldivers better be stable tonight I wanna helldive

(It won't be)

[mortal wing]

oh it's gonna die once update hits

[kindred lintel]

bile spewers are green, the yellow ones are called bile nuturies/breeders

[stone bridge]

The yellow ones are Nursing Spewers

[kindred lintel]

yea that

afaik the only difference is that on haz 7 the bile spewers can rear up

[honest acorn]

They can do that on lower difficulties

[honest acorn]

arty ones, they're really good at resetting towers

[dusty spruce]

Yeah, I can imagine. Especially since whenever a mission seems to decide it'll spawn them, it just prints bile spewers

[burnt vapor]

Yeah the arty ones are a pain though I have found they target you more then the tower so if you stay away from the base it’s not too bad

[honest acorn]

Oh that's good to know

I was in a 2 person lobby so it was hard to get far from the towers

It would admittedly have been a lot easier if I hadn't hot dropped and not known that it was gonna be towers...

AC Sentry would have made things Different

[dusty spruce]

Ooph, they really need to let you see what the mission you're dropping into is

[eager pine]

https://youtu.be/_F6g6ADaknY?si=5MFISH2LNAZN86ZZ

[burnt vapor]

Yeah hot dropping into towers is not great

[honest acorn]

Yeah its one of the most annoying things for me rn

I dropped in with a GL, Shield, 500 kilo and rockets haha

So, I'm increasingly pretty sure that the Termanids can do their own FTL

Since their bodies contain the element that enables FTL

[tidal wing]

I played a Challenging match and as soon as we landed we got mobbed by three Chargers. hwat the fcuk

[honest acorn]

which number is that?

[mortal wing]

4

[honest acorn]

wow unlucky drop haha

[mortal wing]

I landed on a charged yesterday

that felt nice

[dusty spruce]

Oh the Terminids absolutely can, they were capable of spreading between planets in the first war. And the encyclopedia in that game outright called them sentient.

[mortal wing]

good solo mission start

[honest acorn]

There's some good lines in here haha

"Undeniable Hatred of the right to Vote"

[stone bridge]

I am very excited for the new Warbond stuff

Plasma Punisher my beloved

[honest acorn]

I've got like 150 medals banked for it ngl

I can wait on the S&P and Scorcher

[hot meadow]

Challenging difficulty seems bimodal. It’s my wife’s favorite difficulty… but I swear sometimes it spawns three chargers, a bile titan, and Satan himself on you.

[honest acorn]

(I couldn't resist the slugger lol)

[stone bridge]

I've been buying bits and pieces to avoid being capped out for the last week lmao

So I can drop 250 big ones immediately

[hot meadow]

I have 200 saved up.

[stone bridge]

Should be enough to grab an armour set + all the weapons and hopefully the booster

The booster is hopefully as useful as it sounds

[honest acorn]

Do we know anything about the booster?

[stone bridge]

Yup

We even know about the one in the next warbond

[honest acorn]

What is it?

[stone bridge]

https://www.tumblr.com/helldivers-2/744762053633490944/new-boosters?source=share

Reduced time for extraction to land

The confusion booster is vague as always, but I'm hoping it increases the time between roaming patrols seeking you out or how frequently a breach/dropship can show up

[honest acorn]

interesting

[fleet jacinth]

||I'm here to say chargers may be easier but GOD DAMN THEY FLY NOW WTFFFFF||

[stone bridge]

The official Tumblr has been actually been a really good source of drip fed future content lol

[honest acorn]

huh

[stone bridge]

They posted about the upcoming stratagems as well

[hidden steeple]

what

[hidden steeple]

no,

[honest acorn]

Just heard it from the deck officer on the ship in one of their lines like an hour ago

[hidden steeple]

the official lore is that super earth has been farming them for said chemical

[honest acorn]

and?

I don't see how that contradicts what I was saying

[hidden steeple]

they were spread to prisons across different planets to farm them for element 710 (the ftl chemical), and then broke out and understandably started killing everything

so in other words it's super earth's fault that they're everywhere

[honest acorn]

And... they biologically produce FTL juice

Which is probably so they can travel FTL

[hidden steeple]

how

with spaceships?

[honest acorn]

By using the E-710 to warp themselves between planets

[glad marsh]

A hive lord could probably do that

Not sure about any of the smaller guys though

[hidden steeple]

is that how ftl works in helldivers?

[glad marsh]

Ye

[hidden steeple]

neato mosquito if so

[glad marsh]

Or well
That's the fuel

[hidden steeple]

i feel like the bugs being all warp-y would muddle up some things

[glad marsh]

Uhh
The actual thing (that the super destroyers use, at least) is an Alcubierre drive

[wind arrow]

it'd be pretty funny if the bugs developed ways to FTL using only their bio organs

[honest acorn]

I'm reading between the lines but:

• super earth (famously curious society) doesn't know how Termanids move between planets
• termanids biologically produce the seemingly sole fuel for FTL
• termanids can use it to go FTL and spread like wildfire

[honest acorn]

They've got a whole self directed evolution thing going on and are actually intelligent

At least some of them

[glad marsh]

Oh no
https://www.reddit.com/r/Helldivers/s/OExX1MzONO

CYAN YOU'RE RIGHT

[honest acorn]

lmfao

It'd be really funny if they didn't fix that and just added the super destroyer arrival sfx to their spawns

[glad marsh]

FTL jump sound behind you

A bile titan has appeared

[honest acorn]

It would explain how chargers can suddenly run up behind me with no noise

(Though I think this is a sound mix issue)

[wind arrow]

hey which part of charger can a liberator penetrator shoot through that light armor penetrating guns can't?

feels like shooting at the mouth still gets reflected?

[honest acorn]

I don't think the lib P can penetrate any armored part of a charger

I haven't tried but its true for the machine gun which has about the same pen

[wind arrow]

i see

[rich marlin]

alright time to Helldive

[stone bridge]

None

You really want proper AT or funny tech weapons into Chargers

Flamer works incredibly well, Arc Thrower can do good work with enough sustained fire, Autocannon can pop the abdomen weak point in 4 to 5 shots

The only primary that can even remotely do well into Chargers is the Scorcher, and that's slow + ammo hungry

[wind arrow]

so i guess the mouth looking less armored wasn't actually a clue at it being a weakness

[stone bridge]

Nah unfortunately

[wind arrow]

man, soloing the new mission type at diff4 is still too difficult for me

[stone bridge]

The head overall is a weak spot for heavy AT weaponry

[stone bridge]

The new mission type uses the heavily amped exterminate spawn pool. Don't bother trying to solo it imo

[wind arrow]

that or my approach was ineffective (autocannon turret, tesla turret, gas, precision strike, punisher, revolver, napalm grenade)

ah

[honest acorn]

I've duoed it on 6 but solo seems hard

[wind arrow]

hell, i couldn't get exterminate missions scored past 150 out of iirc 250 at diff4 solo

[wind arrow]

yeah so i duoed it on 6 and i had like 40% of the kills so i thought 4 solo might not be impossible

it's definitely not trivial for sure

might need to consider static field...

do failed missions hurt liberation progress?

[honest acorn]

I think its really hard to solo because the idea way to play it imo is to have people lead the bugs off from the silos

[glad marsh]

Nothing a player does will remove planet progress

[wind arrow]

oh cool i was worried for a sec

kinda failed a few times in solo

and kinda gaslit myself into thinking it might hurt progress and stopped

[strange vine]

no its just fuel

literally just fuel

their bodies decay into fuel

[honest acorn]

That is not what the lady in the game said

[rich marlin]

alright I need to kill 4 chargers anyone want to join me <@&1206091872716595200>

[strange vine]

also yes, the ship uses an alcubierre drive

[stone bridge]

E-710 powers FTL drives

That's confirmed

[strange vine]

the PA system talks about it

thats the FTL system

[wind arrow]

in a few mins

[honest acorn]

Yeah and it needs E-710 to function

Maybe its got negative mass or something

[strange vine]

bugs dont likely dont have FTL

[honest acorn]

Might explain how they get so big lol

I mean you are free to rely on the fanon or whatever but I am making well supported inferences from the game

It's not "literally just fuel"

[strange vine]

i

im not using fanon???????????????????

at the very least the current spread is literally because super earth deliberately spread them out for farming

which they then escaped

[honest acorn]

The whole "bugs don't have FTL they're seeded as a fake enemy by Super Earth" is just like a thing a guy made up on youtube

[strange vine]

its fucking not

we literally see

in the illegal broadcasts on bug planets

people saying "the terminds are an inside job" or the like

[rich marlin]

my ship master said today she can't wait to put them (the bugs) all back in camps with better security

[honest acorn]

Yeah I think they rolled out new lines with the new major order

I've been getting a bunch of new ones

[wind arrow]

hey do ppl know if i accidentally disabled something to prevent the in-game friend code entry to not show up for me?

[honest acorn]

I'm not aware of a way to disable that at least

I'd guess its a bug

[wind arrow]

unfortunate

[glad marsh]

Yeah it's not like the terminids producing E-710 (you should totally read 710 upside down btw) is a result of genetic modification and farming by a certain nation

[umbral temple]

it only shows up when you have cross play enabled

[wind arrow]

ah ok

[cobalt patrol]

Buigs having or not having FTL isn't confirmed by nayhting in game, but there's very strong evidence they do not and are being seeded by super earth based on what we know

[umbral temple]

had this same issue earlier

[glad marsh]

Lies and slander

[honest acorn]

I'm aware of the inside job stuff - I mean the extension to that meaning they don't have FTL isn't really supported any more than them having it

My read is that they didn't "escape" the farms

[glad marsh]

I think it'd be funny if they had some way of getting from system to system

I wonder what it is

[honest acorn]

They certainly did in HD1

[glad marsh]

Oh yeah

For all we know, it's hive lords hiding in asteroids and such

[honest acorn]

Bug asteroids would be super on brand

[glad marsh]

It absolutely would be

[umbral temple]

I assume it’s something like launching spores around the galaxy

They got a lot of weird fungus stuff going on like spore spewers and stuff

[honest acorn]

I think that was one of the in game theories in HD1

That some small spore of them traveled via asteroid or planetoid

But I don't think that E-710 was connected to FTL at the time

It's been a while though

[glad marsh]

I'm quite certain it's always been connected

That's why the war with the bugs was started in the first place

In the first game

[honest acorn]

I remember fighting the bugs for literal oil in HD1

[quick plinth]

I mean what would probably make most sense is that SE moves them around either from research labs or E710 production

they escape

and we are sent to clean up the mess

[umbral temple]

the thing is that they were a multi planet species prior to contact with SE afaik

[quick plinth]

but they definetly do not seem like they can space travel themselves

[honest acorn]

They were yeah, since they controlled most of the eastern part of the "galaxy" map before Galactic War 1

[glad marsh]

That's true
Do note that that mission type existed pretty much exclusively on bug missions though

[honest acorn]

it was pretty much just bugs yeah, I mostly mean it was just called "oil" not "E-710"

[glad marsh]

Ehhhhh

But look at 710 upside down

Might just be a name to make it sound cooler or something

My headcanon is that they're roughly the same thing

[honest acorn]

I do think that's a nod for sure but I'm not sure its more than that

It does seem reasonable that they'd be the same thing just with some setting shuffling in the intervening years

[glad marsh]

E-710 is probably more refined version of what the original bugs produced

Or

That's what I'd like to think

[honest acorn]

That seems reasonable actually

If the bugs had been on planets for a really long time the "oil" on them may have the E-710

And later Super Earth skipped that process and just directly refined bugs into it

[glad marsh]

Super earth did genetically modify them to make good fuel yeah

[umbral temple]

what part of their genetic modifications required them to be able to launch a full grown person 500 feet into the distance I wonder

[stoic lotus]

it's very important for their enrichment

[honest acorn]

E-710 is stored in the muscles

[stone bridge]

Unironically I think the Bile line of units are like

Organic refineries?

[copper crest]

I want them to explode in big fireballs

[stone bridge]

Spray acid on thing, reduce it to base elements

Spray it on bugs, E-710

[wind arrow]

uhhhhh

[stone bridge]

[honest acorn]

Huh that's an interesting idea

https://youtu.be/6Bw-oBESfXw

This is pretty interesting

It's better than I realized

It's not good

But it hits harder than I expected

[oblique storm]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zm0m2-vzHHo

[stone bridge]

It makes sense if you're approaching it from the line of thinking that Terminids are the byproduct of 100 years of Super Earth genetic manipulation

And also the line that Super Earth is gonzo and insane

[honest acorn]

And Bile enemies are entirely absent in HD1

[stone bridge]

Domesticate them into completely obedient livestock? No, breed them bigger and meaner, we get more E-710 that way

Use machines to refine them? Too noisy and costly, make the bugs do it to themselves instead (its karma)

[copper crest]

See I'd more imagine like... bile enemies barfing on organic stuff to partially digest them, then slurp up the goop and finish the processing internally

[stone bridge]

I mean that works too

[copper crest]

Rather than "directly turns into useful oil"

[stone bridge]

It'd explain why they're so big

[honest acorn]

The grossly bloated bile enemies are all new and make sense as "livestock" kinda

[copper crest]

And bile nursers feed that to bug larvae/etc when they're not being milked/juiced/whatever

[stone bridge]

[oblique storm]

https://tenor.com/view/familyguy-stewie-andihelped-gif-18299139

[honest acorn]

I'm sad now I really liked fighting in Extreme Cold

Eternal lasers

[burnt vapor]

At this rate I think we’ll be done by Sunday

[stone bridge]

It's definitely far better than fighting in extreme heat

[glad marsh]

Something tells me this might be bad, actually (in terms of story)

[stone bridge]

Holy shit extreme heat is awful

[stone bridge]

surely, nothing will go wrong with Termicide

[honest acorn]

yeah its rough

[meager saffron]

[honest acorn]

Erata Prime might be my least favorite planet to fight on

And it feels like its never moved on the bar haha

Been consistently like 10% liberated from day 1

[glad marsh]

I don't think anyone else likes it either lol

[stone bridge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOx6ZvAagGo

"The benefits to local ecology far outweigh the loss of some native species"

y a y

[glad marsh]

"a child with radiation poisoning gets to see their hero"

I uh

Huh

[lethal dagger]

that raises some questions yes

[stone bridge]

propaganda!

[burnt vapor]

To be fair it’s not like the terminids have a small impact on the environment around them so this might actually be a true statement

[lethal dagger]

it would be very funny if they genuinely weren't a problem for anyone but humans but that seems farfetched yeah

[honest acorn]

I think this is fan made but funny

[copper crest]

As long as their hero is "a" helldiver and not any specific one

[honest acorn]

It would be… pretty ineffective if it was this stuff I think

Since it’s sprayed from high towers and HCN is lighter than air

[stone bridge]

yeah you want a composition that spills down to infiltrate their nests

[blissful sparrow]

the best thing about it is that it does not contain any info about terminid effectiveness, only the effect on humans

[granite rivet]

https://youtu.be/0qWLF-Q7MBU?si=OMfF4VK0ssCdQ3Bd

Stumbled upon these fan renders/animations which are really insane

[south temple]

can’t wait to stay up til the warbond drops

[stone bridge]

only 9pm for me

[honest acorn]

I’ll just find out in the morn

https://x.com/hb73423182/status/1768025307725136115?s=46&t=RjdIzh2qFuWkjovzBmgCsQ

HB (@HB73423182) on X

Twitter · Mar 13, 2024, 9:24 PM

Every time

[south temple]

:( it’s midnight for me

[glad marsh]

It's more like
I'm wondering how common radiation poisoning in children is

But

[stone bridge]

they do work in the mines

[glad marsh]

Yeahh

And the rather casual use of nuclear bombs to solve many problems

[stone bridge]

Yupp

[stone bridge]

Every damn time

[stoic lotus]

yeah I always end up on top of that thing

[cobalt patrol]

Wait, do we actually have a time for the warbond to drop?

[honest acorn]

It’s probably in 1-2 hours

[cobalt patrol]

Oh, neat

also i'm testing out how well i can stream this game now with my new computer

if anyone feels like tuning in

gimme a yelll and i'll share a link

[dusk agate]

Pranoia TTRPG behaviour, Friend Computer behaviour

[cobalt patrol]

<@&1206091872716595200> Setting up a second crew in HA Hangout, come n dive with me and b riar

[stoic lotus]

oh I can probably come say hi

[barren iron]

I can helldive

"Don't let your family get murdered! Spend your extra cash today!"

[quick plinth]

do yall think helldivers have a hud in their helments?

[barren iron]

yes

I also think they have the OST playing in them

I think it's diagetic

[dusk agate]

This, this is a perfect take

[quick plinth]

I wonder if eagles just Vtol somewhere untill they're needed

or are they constatly just flying in a circle somewhere just outside the AO

[blissful sparrow]

looking at the eagle it does not look sophisticated enough to hover in placr

[stone bridge]

<@&1206091872716595200> Warbond is out!

[barren iron]

aw yeah

new warbond

[unkempt river]

👀

[stark ether]

O.O heavy stim armor in the super store

[unkempt river]

For those of us stuck at work, what's it look like?

[stark ether]

cost is 250

[unkempt river]

Oh, that's nice, I was actually asking about the new bond XD

[barren iron]

looks exactly like what was shown

[stark ether]

new warbond is 1k sc

[quick plinth]

every single one will be like that I think

[unreal merlin]

• LAS-16 Sickle, Localization Confusion booster, Medium armor that gives 95% electricity resist
• Punisher Plasma, Stun Grenade, Medium armor that gives 95% electricity resist
• Arc-12 Blitzer, LAS-7 Dagger pistol, Light armor that gives 95% electricity resist
  for the useful things

[stone bridge]

Sickle seems pretty jacked

[unkempt river]

... electricity resist?

https://tenor.com/view/chuckles-im-in-danger-ralph-wiggum-the-simpsons-gif-14149962

[unreal merlin]

Appropriately paired with the arc shotgun.

[barren iron]

???

[south temple]

how much is the sickle?

[barren iron]

20 medals

[stone bridge]

55 damage per round, no recoil, 750 fire rate, functionally regenerating ammo

[south temple]

oooh

[quick plinth]

no CS:S mounted?

[barren iron]

my game keeps

fucking crashing

I have no idea why

[stark ether]

given the question mark i would say verify if you havent

[quick plinth]

yeah I was about to say- try verifying integrity of files

[stark ether]

magenta questionmark is HD's red flashing error

[barren iron]

yeah

[unreal merlin]

MAN THE SICKLE HAS A LOT OF ENERGY

[south temple]

true!

[unreal merlin]

quick low-level test, it mulches light bugs

[blissful sparrow]

Is the sickle the laser shotgun? i remember the name from HD1 but its been ages

[south temple]

sickle's the laser liberator

[idle hollow]

wait is the new pass out

[south temple]

yep

[idle hollow]

yaaaaaaaay

[south temple]

i do kinda wish that the sound was more laser-y

[unreal merlin]

Yeah, it's a no-recoil liberator that mulches hunters. Given the recent hunter-swarming, it's perfect

[south temple]

it's got a tiny delay before shooting but tbh it's neglegible

[unreal merlin]

Stun grenade is neat, though it doesn't last long. That's not bad though given it lets you put a small mob on pause to either deal with them easily or a DIFFERENT mob that's more pressing.

[lethal dagger]

does it work on hulks

[cobalt patrol]

very low to no recoil, it's great

and six heat sinks so you can afford to overload it

[south temple]

it fucks up hunters, brood commanders, and all the lower level shitters

v fun

[burnt vapor]

The trident is the las shotgun

[south temple]

i’m excited for the fucked up and evil TK shotguns