Helldivers 2: For Managed Democracy!

[graceful bluff]

Hear me out, arrowhead

[south temple]

i can’t wait

they gotta add that too

[barren iron]

the m2016 is the m1903 with modern mateirals

[sinful bay]

Arrowhead let me roundhouse kick a bug and slap it with a baton
please
"NOW GO TO THE FORUMS AND CRY LIKE THE LITTLE BITCH YOU ARE"

[south temple]

two world wars and several intergalactic ones and it still kinda sucks

[barren iron]

wth

[south temple]

true and real i need it

[barren iron]

the m1911 was great (when it happened)

[quick plinth]

I want deployable cover that increases your tankiness while around it but has health

[quick crown]

I'm jeolous because i missed the chance to get the HUNK helmet

[south temple]

NO (yes please let me be a brace for autocannon bros)

[barren iron]

you haven't missed anything

[sinful bay]

Bully the Hulk

[quick plinth]

it'll be back in like 4 days

[barren iron]

it'll be here soon

[quick crown]

Yay!

[barren iron]

wait hunk helmet?

[quick plinth]

super commando I assume

[quick crown]

It looks vaguely like RE Hunk

[barren iron]

uhhhh

[quick plinth]

uhh??

[barren iron]

yea idk

hunk has a gas mask

[south temple]

the light gunner?

[sinful bay]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1204832579287519292/1216454111524814869/image.png?ex=6600722c&is=65edfd2c&hm=ecc49f870408cceef90ddef9867c0006f25c7ebed8f8acabe1b64cbadb3f813d& this one?

[quick plinth]

NCR armor lookalike?

[barren iron]

MY FRIEND SAID THAT

[sinful bay]

BIG IRON WHEN

[barren iron]

they said it looked like scifi veteran ranger armour

[barren iron]

we literally have a revolver though]

[quick plinth]

we already have the senator

[south temple]

true but have u considered my beloved

[graceful bluff]

Don't fuck with this senator

[sinful bay]

Too weak
I want the revolver to dislocate my arm when I fire with it

[quick plinth]

sure sure BFR

(Big Frame Revolver)

[quick crown]

Hellyeah!

[honest acorn]

The senator is a big ass revolver

[graceful bluff]

It's a legally distinct chiappa rhino

[quick crown]

https://tenor.com/view/resident-evil-4-re4-albert-wesker-wesker-resident-evil-resident-evil-wesker-gif-2543914844425316738

[south temple]

but it could be bigger

[honest acorn]

Most of the helldivers guns are huge but its pretty comical in 1st person reload

[quick plinth]

why are guns copyrighted?

[quick crown]

Its just because the Red with the Helmet with a lip

But

[south temple]

40mm revolver when

[quick crown]

Its close

[barren iron]

not all of them are

[jolly mortar]

please please please please

[sinful bay]

Because in the end of the day is a piece of machinery and engineering someone made

[barren iron]

and most of them are not

[barren iron]

most of them are trademarked, rather than copyrighted

[quick crown]

Did they make the senator BETTER?

[sinful bay]

Or fuck it, go full brazillian

[south temple]

i’d also kill for a DSHK

[quick plinth]

tru tho

[barren iron]

you can use a Colt AR-15 in your game, but you need to pay to call it an AR-15

[jolly mortar]

the fact that most of them have you reach around the gun to pull the slide

[graceful bluff]

I'm still chasing the high of the planetside 2 revolver and its unique as hell reload

[honest acorn]

Strictly speaking guns are usually trademarked

[sinful bay]

Give me the homemade shotgun revolver, arrowhead

[barren iron]

but you can call it it's military designation, like an M4A1 or whatever

[south temple]

use that with the shield and shatter ur arm instantly

[quick plinth]

please tell me its from south America

[jolly mortar]

gimme a revolver so big that it ragdolls me when I fire, but whatever it hits turns into a fine mist

[south temple]

just like super earth intended o7

[sinful bay]

Brazil, yes :3

[quick plinth]

I knew it

[south temple]

that’s just a normal revolver if ur small enough (me)

[quick plinth]

ive seen a full auto 50cal smg lmao

from brasil

[sinful bay]

PFFFF

We make teh best homemade guns and pizzas

[dusty spruce]

I do hope we get something like an Obrez or some other sawn-off secondary. I want a wrist breaker, please

[quick plinth]

homemade to go after APCs

[sinful bay]

Hell yes

[quick plinth]

I want AK74U

[honest acorn]

The leaked grenade pistol may tickle your fancy

[graceful bluff]

look at this stupid fucking thing

[quick plinth]

or VSS

[graceful bluff]

half moon speedloaders

[quick plinth]

VSS would slap honestly

[blissful sparrow]

Commisar be based

[quick plinth]

subsonic suppressed AR

[south temple]

spread democracy with beautiful bakelite mags

[jolly mortar]

ginme that hellboy redeemer ass secondary. the hellsing 454 casull gun that is so comically long it looks looney tunes

[honest acorn]

There's one of those in the leaks but its doesn't look anything like a VSS

[sinful bay]

Shoot while laying down or be blow away by recoil

[south temple]

EWWWW (i love her)

[blissful sparrow]

tho i prefer the Underboss. Snubnosed Split cylinder revolver

[graceful bluff]

If we're bringing in something called the redeemer, give me the unreal tournament redeemer

[quick plinth]

REVOLVER OZELOT IN HD2

let me dualweild

[south temple]

god i wish

[blissful sparrow]

Its "Tactical" reload is up to 3 shots, when you only have to replace half a cylinder. Its so cool.

[graceful bluff]

a fly by wire missile would be really interesting

[quick plinth]

a bigger revolver called "Parliament"

[south temple]

it’s gorgeous i wish it was real

one single speck of dust gets on the mechanism and it explodes

[honest acorn]

It'd be so good

I'd run that with shield in a heartbeat

[sinful bay]

So a Taurus revolver

[quick plinth]

oh maybe a gyrojet

[honest acorn]

The Dominator is a gyro

[south temple]

yes

[south temple]

tru

[quick plinth]

yes but a pistol

[dusty spruce]

I think the Dominator is gyro ||and a leaked bolt action is gyro as well||

[quick plinth]

no damage up close

[graceful bluff]

I could do with a gyro just about now

[quick plinth]

needs time to accelerate

[sinful bay]

Dedicated second slot melee like L4D2 when

Let me chainsaw bugs

Or the pan

both works

[south temple]

montante montante montante montante

[quick plinth]

were there melee weapons in HD1?

[graceful bluff]

honestly it's criminal that we can't have a chainsaw fight with the devestators

[honest acorn]

There was one and it was 50% a meme

[quick plinth]

huh

[south temple]

mandy (2018)

[honest acorn]

It was a parade saber and was basically a short ranged bayonet which swung a lot faster

[sinful bay]

Become demoknight tf2 and you are set

[honest acorn]

So damage was good, armor pen was trash, and risk of death was omnipresent

[sinful bay]

oh yeah bayonets were a thing in HD1
Give it back plz

[dusty spruce]

It was only in unique missions, where everyone was restricted to the saber, ye?

[blissful sparrow]

i just want the IFV already
then i "melee" bugs with my front bumper

[graceful bluff]

bumpa cars

[quick plinth]

I'm curious to see how quickly one could do missions when vehicles get introduced

[south temple]

pull up by the hulk and smack it with a saber commissar style

[quick plinth]

though how would their sound and "smell" system work woth jeeps and stuff moving entire teams

[graceful bluff]

just an IFV rolling up to an objective, 4 people with recoilless rifles pop out

[quick plinth]

would patrols just instsntly see you?

[honest acorn]

I thought you could take it normally but I stopped playing HD1 before it came out

[blissful sparrow]

you'd probably be driving around trailing 17 bug breaches and a million bugs and occassionally throw out a 380mm

[quick plinth]

that somehow seems like it would make life more difficult not easier

[barren iron]

I cannot wait for the jeeep

it's going to be so good

[honest acorn]

I'm glad they're replacing the motorcycle with the space jeeep

[blissful sparrow]

Only if you stop going full throttle

[dusty spruce]

I hope they bring back the motorcycle, that think was a glorious deathtrap

[quick plinth]

considering breaches and drops are whats responsible for the overwhelming amount of heavies in the first place (before today's changes, but I imagine it wont change the outcome much)

[barren iron]

it's literally the warthog

it's the warthog but I assume without the magnetism that lets you stay in it if it gets flipped

[honest acorn]

Though I suspect that having the jeepers run around doing secondaries and POIs while dismounts go for the time consuming main objectives will be better

[jolly mortar]

please give me a motorcycle to die horribly in

[honest acorn]

Since I expect the jeep peeps to be constantly trailed by 5-10 heavies

[south temple]

but it would be fun

[barren iron]

I want to sit in the side and run the recoilless on the jeep

[quick plinth]

I guess the jeepers could

oh my god

[barren iron]

like the halo rocket warthog gunner

[dusty spruce]

This also depends if the bigger vehicle is more like the heavier or light apc from HD1. Heavier had some anti tank options, which could be pretty nice in this game

[graceful bluff]

imagine the backblast yeeting someone else out

[barren iron]

yknow how you'd get a marine with a rocket launcher? yea I want to be that marine

[barren iron]

oh that's very true

[idle hollow]

i need the halo 2 gauss warthog so bad

[quick plinth]

thats the name of my friend lmao

anyway, yeah, I guess the Jeepers run around causing a ruckus while 2 people sneak about doing mains quietly

[barren iron]

halo 2 gauss warthog?

[south temple]

gauss hog when

[quick plinth]

jeepers

[sinful bay]

Drift in front of hte Hulk while someone else shoot him in the ass back

[barren iron]

new server nickname

[dusty spruce]

Please Arrowhead, bring this back. I wanna give the automatons a taste of their own medicine

[honest acorn]

That gun always crackes me up it looks like an oversized paintball marker

[blissful sparrow]

hit nitro and ramp over the hulks front angled armor

[barren iron]

it kinda does doesn't it

I love it

[quick plinth]

I want arrowhead to give me a crewserved mortar

[blissful sparrow]

Loved that thing, it was so terrible, but i loved oneshotting like everything

[quick plinth]

drop a bunch of ordiance on a base before going in

[barren iron]

yes that would be so good with a two-man team

[kindred lintel]

have you seen the original mortar in hd1?

hand carried

[quick plinth]

unfortunately I haven't played hd1

[dusty spruce]

The rumbler was glorious and a teamkilling machine

[sinful bay]

It seems team killing is in the blood of helldivers

[barren iron]

sending you to the great democracy in the sky

[blissful sparrow]

Helldivers is just Magicka but with rifles instead of staffs, so, yeah

[jolly mortar]

imagine the backblast flipping the jeep and killing everyone because you fired right as the driver hit a bump

[dusty spruce]

Weirdly enough the Rumbler was also a burst fire 'hand held' mortar

'hand held' because it clearly still had the stand and everything

[quick plinth]

I still wonder whats the reason airstrikes are coordinated by beacon rather than having the pilot do their judgement calls

(I understand the doylist explanation would be its for gameplay, but what's the watsonian explanation?)

[dusty spruce]

your meathead helldiver just fired the thing underhand

[barren iron]

because we have never done that irl

except when we had no way of doing it

[quick plinth]

I mean, irl you have laser designators

[barren iron]

yeah

or coordinates

[quick plinth]

but those are mostly only for precision strikes

[barren iron]

helldivers dont have time or the training to call in coordinates

[sinful bay]

Maybe to cause less friendly fire?

[blissful sparrow]

If i fly in Ace combat i am capablw of doing airstrikes by myself. But in Arma? If i ain't getting a target designated i ain't even really know where enemies even are

[barren iron]

they do have a ball and a hell of a throwing arm

[quick plinth]

its insane what ive seen a sim arma flyer do in an A10

[jolly mortar]

sim Arma helicopter pilots mildly terrify me.

[kindred lintel]

they had rifles in magicka

[quick plinth]

however that guy has more optics devices than any IRL A10

[barren iron]

you're saying this like eagle-1 is a good pilot

[honest acorn]

I think its based on using smoke to mark targets

Though that's sort of out of date

[barren iron]

she drops her flares against literally bugs

[sinful bay]

S-She's not?

[quick plinth]

doctrine

[honest acorn]

Yeah - they might set a bug on fire

[quick plinth]

my argument is that helldivers are the numbers and literally every other branch gets much more training

[barren iron]

it's a waste of flares, there could be an automaton surprise attack any minute now

helldivers are not the numbers imo

[blissful sparrow]

Would you not drop flares if you did a gun run? thats cool as hell

[keen zinc]

It's doctrine to drop flares for any CAS

[barren iron]

yeah

[keen zinc]

Because safety

[dusty spruce]

It's Eagle-1 letting us know she cares

[quick plinth]

they literally are though... did you see the number of them on ice during the tutorial

[barren iron]

because that makes sense

[barren iron]

there are also like a shitton of humans

[jolly mortar]

but also my brain sort of just assumed it was just barely too much training to teach every single helldiver how to call out exact coordinates every single time, they didn't want to program an automatic coordinate designator into every helldiver's helmet hud, and it's easier to teach each soldier to just 'chuck this at target so red laser pops up, then run'

[barren iron]

so there will of course be a lot of helldivers

[quick plinth]

yeah and only 25% of helldivers survive the filter

[barren iron]

but 20 people deployed to a mission against literally a thousand bots is not "numbers tactics"

[quick plinth]

I feel like thats largely a gameplay thing

[keen zinc]

Ten million Helldivers died at Mort

[barren iron]

gameplay is lore in hd2 (except when it is very obviously not, like glitching through the map)

[glad orchid]

Missed it a bit but: The motorcycle would be very fun and seems like a natural addition if they want to include vehicles in the same vein as the Mech:

Very effective at doing a specific task, but flimsy and hella vulnerable

[keen zinc]

You are fighting over basically a square mile of land

Helldivers are being deployed all over

[barren iron]

yeah

but imo that's just a product of scale

[honest acorn]

yeah the scale is just large I think

[sinful bay]

Let me 360 shot the anti-material rifle while in the motorcycle to make me fly across the map from recoil plz

[quick plinth]

if it is the way you say it is the war would be "won"

[glad orchid]

Yeah exactly

[quick plinth]

there wouldn't really be a way for the bugs or bots to truly oppose SE

[barren iron]

no there's just that many bugs and bots

[jolly mortar]

I mean, I sort of just assume the enemy has equally as many numbers.

[barren iron]

^#

[quick plinth]

hm

[keen zinc]

Helldivers are absolutely just thrown en masse to be expendible JTACs for the super destroyers

[barren iron]

automatons can make 1 dude every like 15 seconds

and a tank every minute or something

at every single outpost

[jolly mortar]

bots can assemble all of their soldiers in a factory faster than we can kill them, bugs probably breed like coked-up rabbits.

[barren iron]

and there are probably tens of thousands of those per planet

also importantly, they don't actually expect you to die

[jolly mortar]

meanwhile super earth has to (unless they perfected cloning / vat growing people) wait for a human to hit fighting age, train them, and then deploy them.

[barren iron]

if they did, they wouldn't have those 20 reinforcements on standby

[keen zinc]

#1204832579287519292 message

[barren iron]

they'd send them all in at once

[glad orchid]

You know what I think

I think that those civilians you rescue are the next line of helldivers recruits

[keen zinc]

It's a budget thing

[barren iron]

they only need to give 4 people the stratagems

the other 16 can just shoot things with support weapons

or without!

[jolly mortar]

it's kind of just the 40k dynamic. everybody has a lot of numbers, but some keep up by replenishing fast enough to keep the war from going too far in either direction.

[quick plinth]

this all feels like a gameplay thing though

[barren iron]

I don't think it is imo

[jolly mortar]

I dunno if I agree. it makes logical sense for bugs and bots to be able to have absurd numbers to match humanity's.

[quick plinth]

thats fair but it just wouldnt make sen-

yonow what

[keen zinc]

The Helldivers are deployed in teams all across a combat zone to secure objectives and destroy targets

[barren iron]

I think the tutorial at the start is either not the entirety of helldiver training, or they have mostly all had previous training

[quick plinth]

your scifi space ship has fkn frontloaders as stock

[keen zinc]

They have to be on the ground because a lot of it is purely resource acquisition requiring button pressing

[keen zinc]

#1204832579287519292 message

[honest acorn]

I agree I think the limit of 4 is gameplay - though I think the idea of what's basically a platoon strength group with a shitload of organic firepower in orbit isn't that crazy of a concept

[keen zinc]

SE Society passively trains militia civilians

[barren iron]

yeah

[glad orchid]

Yeah we see that in game. Lots of dead militia on the map

[jolly mortar]

like. look at how fast a human factory can output shit versus, like, Literal Skynet. then think about how fast an anthill can reproduce and multiply that to intergalactic scale.

[keen zinc]

Helldivers are just the more capable civilians filtered by training fatalities

And then frozen and shot out of a gun at problems

[barren iron]

important to remember as well is that they are also given complete and total operational command

[keen zinc]

No, they aren't

They HAVE to go to combat zones, they HAVE to deploy to locations chosen by super earth

[barren iron]

well yeah

[jolly mortar]

but yeah I largely agree with this. squads of 4 is largely a gameplay conceit. but not, like, an impossibly illogical one and one that can fit within the 'super earth isn't THAT good at tactics' line of thinking.

[keen zinc]

They can choose where but it's an illusion of choice

[barren iron]

but they choose where they go

[honest acorn]

tbf that's not "operational command"

[keen zinc]

The illusion of command

[barren iron]

even the major orders are just carrots to get them to go places

not actual orders

[keen zinc]

They need to make them feel important and invincible so they throw themselves into the grinder

[honest acorn]

Yeah I think the limit of 4 is just for gameplay reasons but if you had the whole flotilla launch 20-25 troopers and gear and stood on standby with them that seems reasonable

[jolly mortar]

yeah

why throw more bodies at the problem than you might need till you know you need them

[honest acorn]

That'd be a funny rationale

[quick plinth]

i forget the name of the "given a goal, free to complete however they see fit"

[keen zinc]

It's literally a budget thing

[barren iron]

mission-type tactics

[keen zinc]

The less they use the better

[jolly mortar]

basically yeah

[keen zinc]

It's not about effectiveness, it's about literally budget

It's lean staffing in war form

[barren iron]

I guess? but I would not trust a kid fresh out of boot with that

[keen zinc]

SE is insane and cruel and fascist

[glad orchid]

The average helldivers mission costs the same as one of those ships you fly around in, according to in-game chatter

Like it isn’t cheap

[barren iron]

so either super earth are maybe completely incompetent it's a miracle they even managed to survive the first galactic war (they didn't all the time)

[keen zinc]

At least that's the narrative to make you feel important

[jolly mortar]

the fact that the super destroyer will fuck off and leave you when the timer runs out makes sense, because that ship is worth infinitely more than your life

[honest acorn]

Not quite - it costs as much as a "liberty class cruiser"

Which space ship names are made but but that sounds bigger than a Super Destroyer

[barren iron]

if I know anything about liberty class ships

it's that they're dirt cheap

and mass produced

[quick plinth]

Auftragstaktik I think??

[keen zinc]

You can, if they can be immediately replaced if they fail, and immediately refrozen if they succeed to use again

[glad orchid]

Yeah so still very expensive

[south temple]

yep

[barren iron]

yeah

[graceful bluff]

I am a meat popsicle etc etc

[barren iron]

the thing is that mission-type tactics leads to disasterous results for fascist empires- oh right

yeah

[quick plinth]

but ships leaving because they have limited atmospheric flight time makes sense

[keen zinc]

The whole theme is how absolutely little helldiver lives matter

They only use the minimum necessary

[sinful bay]

And they pump you up as much as possible

[keen zinc]

And don't care if they die

And they fill you with ideas of invincibility and importance

It's literally a satire of the fascist absolute disregard for human life

[glad orchid]

The wars are also entirely SE’s fault, and the defeat screens from the first game implied that when SE would fall the fleet would go and find a new SE

[keen zinc]

We are bullets, and only fired in bursts so as to "save ammo" purely for budget concerns

We are bullets that can flip switches and press buttons

[glad orchid]

Assuming that still holds canon here, it could be that 100 years ago SE failed, found a new distant sector of the galaxy, then recreated their problems again

[keen zinc]

Makes us useful for maintaining oil infrastructure

[barren iron]

I dont think it's still canon

but it is funny

[honest acorn]

I don't think the war loss war endings are canon from hd1

[strange vine]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gi7beGJ22is

you can lose arms of the mech

[barren iron]

yeah

[quick plinth]

I hate youtube titles

[honest acorn]

Though given how Super Earth does a lot of... information curation its not impossible I just don't think its likely

[glad orchid]

It’s canon in my brain because I like the satirical implications of it

[quick plinth]

yes, you can, we know you can, why must it be a question

[sinful bay]

Reminds me of the uplifting primer the in-universe guardsman of 40k are forced to read

"(ii) The Warboss is always the biggest and toughest ork in the band. It keeps all the others in line by virtue of its dominance, size and strength. Because of its size it will present an easier target. A shot to the face will drop the alien scum like a sack of sand. "

[merry cosmos]

I dislike operatorderwski

[south temple]

i love the uplifting primer so much

[quick plinth]

oh wait, thats the guy who played with the devs

that video is okay

[merry cosmos]

Derwski?

[quick plinth]

yeah

[sinful bay]

big same

[quick plinth]

played with CEO and Main Production guy (forgor title name)

[merry cosmos]

Blatant lies

[quick plinth]

they talked about how a lot of the devs served their mandatory 7 months in Sweden and how that informs their design philosophy regarding the game

[wind arrow]

is this due to his content format or is there other reason?

[sinful bay]

Yes! I love the primer so much

[south temple]

extremely true

[merry cosmos]

Vibes. I generally dont like millsim people

[wind arrow]

understandable

[quick plinth]

I want CV9040 in HD2

[merry cosmos]

They tend to be massive insufferable dweebs

[south temple]

it’s so unfortunate yeah

[quick crown]

Yeah.

[graceful bluff]

it's the same with grand strategy people

[south temple]

there’s just that vibe about them like they’d call me a slur

[wind arrow]

ok look we're mech people, so like there's a glass house somewhere. that said, i can understand the dislike for sure

[graceful bluff]

(especially hoi)

[south temple]

heyyyyy i’m a grand strategy person (help me get me out)

[jolly mortar]

I divorce myself from the greater Total War fanbase for good reason.

[south temple]

fuuuuck the total war people

i’m neither but yes this is true

[honest acorn]

Milsim/grand strategy spaces are hard to navigate without a good idk Godwin Counter or something

[merry cosmos]

And this is coming from someone who likes more realistic shooters as opposed to boomer shooters

[sinful bay]

then you are the third
Furry /j

[honest acorn]

Whatever the equivalent of a Geiger counter is for hitler particles

[south temple]

uh oh

[quick crown]

Yeah i wouldn't say the same about grand strategy i know too many queers that love their map games

[jolly mortar]

thaaaaaaaaaaaat is a really not good dichotomy to set up I'm not gonna lie

[strange vine]

shoutout to that one channel that posted a load of hoi stuff and then 1 video about coming out as trans and then back to the hoi strat stuff

[sinful bay]

´PFF

[quick crown]

(I'm a queer with other interests for the record map games make me dizzy)

[south temple]

i love my arma 3 but wow i don’t like so many of the people who play it

[strange vine]

dichotomies are like that yes, i was just using it for humor

[barren iron]

I play arma 3 exclusively with my friendgroup

[jolly mortar]

and I'm saying I think it's a bad joke

[strange vine]

sorry

[south temple]

like damn it’s so sucky that all the shit i like is kinda infested with the fash plague

[wind arrow]

the dichotomy i think is contextually less bad due to the amount of trans visibility on the server, that said.. yeah it's kinda dangerous to do so outside pnet

[sinful bay]

how the hoi looks like?

[graceful bluff]

arma is one of those games I kinda wanna get into but the community just seems like a minefield

[south temple]

it is

also the game is bad

[graceful bluff]

same with that other game that's basically somewhere between battlefield and arma in milsimness

[barren iron]

squad

[sinful bay]

Arma 3 was fun as hell
but
Hard to get into it

[south temple]

however, it is the best game i’ve ever played

[honest acorn]

I've gotten used to it now - I got into mil sf in high school

[wind arrow]

squad or oh god i need to look up the title every time, the one whose sequel is called sandstorm

insurgency

[sinful bay]

Rainbow Six too

[keen zinc]

Me and my friends liked Tom play Wargame Red Dragon, but before we made our game together, we would go into the global chat and say "Rommel was a war criminal"

It evoked many responses

[south temple]

true yeah but i also feel like there’s a fairly clear difference between a hyperbolic joke and a statement of fact

[sinful bay]

Oooh german
yeah

[south temple]

i just play DCO and antistasi bc multiplayer makes my computer smoke a bit

[keen zinc]

Antistasi and liberation are fun arma game modes

[coral linden]

as someone with 2k hours in that game owing to a hyperfixation when i was younger, who is now a trans girl, i have to say i hate this joke

[south temple]

squad is pretty fun, ins2014 isn’t super populated but sandstorm i like

[keen zinc]

Same general idea but different approaches and vibes

[coral linden]

as to this day i never hear the end of it

[strange vine]

sorry

[coral linden]

from literally everyone

[south temple]

i could never figure out liberation

[strange vine]

ill just delete i if people are really upset about it, i literally have no emotional attachment to it

[coral linden]

like in fairness yes there are a lot of Really Odd HOI4 players

[keen zinc]

Antistasi you are militia guerilla, Liberation you are NATOs Strongest Soldiers

[south temple]

ew

[merry cosmos]

On both ends of the spectrum?

[keen zinc]

It's funny

[coral linden]

and that’s the unfortunate part — i’ve had to defend myself when joining servers a fair few times

[strange vine]

alright removed it

[south temple]

fuck nato i wanna blow up the united states marine corps

[quick plinth]

ah wargame global chat

[south temple]

antistasi with U.S.A. invading is peak 🔥🔥🔥

[coral linden]

ah, sorry for not clarifying, no i meant neonazis

[keen zinc]

You have access to so much stuff in Liberation, you build fobs and landing pads and vehicle bays and collect resources

[south temple]

true horror

[keen zinc]

Liberation is genuinely good fun

[quick plinth]

its worse than 4chan

[coral linden]

appreciated, apologies

[south temple]

fuck this sounds cool actually

[coral linden]

i may have come across stronger than intended there, really sorry if that was the case

[keen zinc]

Zones you capture actually provide resources you need to TRUCK BACK TO YOUR FOB IN CONVOYS and spend them to expand your base and build stuff like mech bays and hangars

[south temple]

real shit i just have to coerce my friends to hop on

[keen zinc]

So you can buy jets and shit

[south temple]

THATS FUCKING COOL

i used to run missions where me and a friend did that for fun

[keen zinc]

early game you are just trucking boxes of ammo and fuel back to your shitty little hidden fob and later on you have a convoy of hemts hauling whole loads of resources

[south temple]

beautiful o7

[honest acorn]

https://x.com/Pilestedt/status/1767627610912157728?s=20

Pilestedt (@Pilestedt) on X

I've heard rumors of flying bugs in @helldivers2. I want to officially refute such preposterous claims.

Everyone knows that "Bugs can't fly".

And I'm not alone in thinking this. The Ministry of Truth agrees that this is propaganda from bug sympathizers that want to brainwash…

Twitter · Mar 12, 2024, 7:03 PM

Flying bugs are fake sorry y'all

[keen zinc]

So you can requisition a fucking jet and strike a CSAT (or whoever enemy you set) facility

[south temple]

some day i’m gonna get 5+ people on arma again

[south temple]

BYE BYE U.S.A. I DRONE STRIKE NOW

[keen zinc]

@merry tartan #1 airstrike bastard

[sinful bay]

Like how I made you buy a necron patrol squad? :3

[south temple]

it’s so over 😔

[keen zinc]

Yeah it's pretty modifiable and has RHS support

[south temple]

oh good

[sinful bay]

or hey a kill team

[jolly mortar]

a likely excuse to keep helldivers from panicking about flying bugs

[keen zinc]

I think you could theoretically set yourself as greenfor and fight bluefor occupiers

[merry cosmos]

"Real odd folks" is a interesting way of putting that

[south temple]

i ran an op with 6 people hot dropping into chernarus at night that shit was peak

[keen zinc]

But oh my god does the AI of Liberation not pull punches

They will crack the hell down on you if you let them

[south temple]

we’re all fairly coordinated in duos but trying to get everyone to just kill one patrol was deranged

[keen zinc]

They WILL assault and retake their territory if you don't perform side ops

[south temple]

yayyyyyy

[keen zinc]

We had a fucking tank battle in the salt flats of altis

[south temple]

the true arma experience is VCOM AI stomping ur dick in

[south temple]

the salt flat is so beautiful

[keen zinc]

6 dip shits vs a CSAT armored platoon and airbase

[strange vine]

lotta arma talk in helldivers thread :V

:P

[south temple]

oh yeah i forgot what channel i was in 💀

[keen zinc]

@oblique storm evasive maneuvers

[merry cosmos]

Blame me for bringing up millsim

[strange vine]

helldivers does have a lot of milsim elements

[merry cosmos]

Yeah i was about to say that

[keen zinc]

https://youtu.be/9m48aLMwkp4?si=uOY7kEUi18dDxRQn

[south temple]

it made me reinstall arma lol

[strange vine]

in the video drewski did with the ceo they talk about how they wanted to bring some of the more fun milsim stuff to a more casual audience

[keen zinc]

Please watch

This is @oblique storm killing the entire squad via laughter

[south temple]

WHAT THE FUCK

[honest acorn]

Helldivers is weird with how it meshes milsim and much more arcadey gameplay

[final frigate]

is there any reason to not make the stalwart shoot as fast as fuckin possible

[azure pewter]

ammo economy

[south temple]

accuracy

[honest acorn]

Its WAY more controllable on 700 and you burn less ammo for point targets

[merry cosmos]

Shame

[sinful bay]

https://twitter.com/Pilestedt/status/1766568830908662092 CEO straight up asked for suggestion on how to make kicks less toxic, based

Pilestedt (@Pilestedt) on X

This is so shitty. Also very hard to solve - we have some ideas but no conclusion.

You know what, let's try this: Hive Mind - do you have a design suggestion for how to improve this experience?

Twitter · Mar 9, 2024, 8:56 PM

[final frigate]

I don't understand these words in this context

[honest acorn]

HD1 rating system would be good

[final frigate]

surely more dakka is objectively better and there are no downsides

[honest acorn]

700 is the low RPM setting and point target means firing accurately at 1 thing - not a mass

[merry cosmos]

Laz-5 sickle my beloved

[sinful bay]

agreed, hey suggest that to him :3

[honest acorn]

(I'm not sure if that was a joke response so I'm responding genuinely haha)

[south temple]

incredibly cursed thank you

[final frigate]

you're too good to me

I don't deserve this

[strange vine]

holy shit

[keen zinc]

That's me dying laughing btw

[final frigate]

though I didn't actually know point targetting

[keen zinc]

I nearly fell out of my chair

[merry cosmos]

Me

[south temple]

bro has the personal AOA limiter

[coral linden]

apologies - i don’t mean to appear sympathetic to neonazis at all, as i am decidedly not, and i’m sorry if that’s how it came across

[merry cosmos]

I was simply trying to be funny

[coral linden]

ah,.,,

[merry cosmos]

No hard feelings

[quick crown]

m i s s l e

[coral linden]

sry ;v;

[merry cosmos]

Dw

Genuinely

[south temple]

missile missile missile missile pull up pull up missile missile missile

[quick crown]

s t a l l w a r n i n g

[merry cosmos]

The missile doesn't know where it is

[south temple]

skill issue

accipiter gaming

[merry cosmos]

(I am playing Helldivers 1 again)

[quick crown]

Conquest mode calls to me

[south temple]

sadly i can’t stop dickriding the f16

[south temple]

answer

[sinful bay]

me on the daily

[merry cosmos]

Me on the hourly

[south temple]

that’s how i feel when my car’s navigation shits itself every minute

i become blind instantly

[sinful bay]

Imagine having a car
Can't be me

I always almost crash the car when i drive

[merry cosmos]

In America thats a death sentence

[south temple]

me too!

[south temple]

mazda cx5 built superior that shit saved my ass 🔥🔥🔥

[sinful bay]

JUST ONE MORE LANE, BRO

[south temple]

ONE MORE WILL FIX IT

(please get me out of here)

[merry cosmos]

American road engineers about to add yet another lane to the road

[south temple]

i love it here

(everything is like minimum 30 minutes from me)

[sinful bay]

Billionaries expending billions to re-invent the metro system
but shittier

[final frigate]

a 3 hour walk!

[glacial light]

OK HEAR ME OUT, WHAT IF WE STACK LANES ON TOP OF EACH OTHER

[final frigate]

probably more!

[merry cosmos]

Tech bro public transportation

[sinful bay]

Trolley for cars you mean

[glacial light]

If you've ever been to texas it's like 3d highways on 3 levels

[south temple]

worth it

[merry cosmos]

Anything adam something makes a video about

[idle hollow]

went to florida it was insane to me that it was basically just

flat terrain

with the occasional hill

[tidal wing]

tried the Terminid control system mission on lunch break, managed to claw through with randos, only for the terminal to bug out at the very end and prevent us from activating the final objective and extraction

[quick plinth]

there seems to be a decent amount of bugs (ha) regarding last objectives and extracts

but none seem consistent

which explains how they slipped by ig

[honest acorn]

The funniest one for me is when both oil pickup ships arrive at the same time

[velvet pollen]

i had a run that spawned two pelicans, we got in the first once and the second one crushed us to death when they clipped through each other

[honest acorn]

Ok I hadn't seen that one haha

[quick plinth]

and this is why I try to exclusively host whenever I play without premades

[sinful bay]

I remember when someone called an airstrike when everyone was about to get into Pelican 1

We all died, but good thing we had extras lives so nothing was lost, it was quick to get the samples

[quick plinth]

pelican should have a scramble radius around itself

[honest acorn]

nty I just needed to clear the LZ with a cluster bomb so we could board yesterday haha

[quick plinth]

huh

my issue is people keep calling in shit as we're about to leave, potentially endangering samples

[honest acorn]

yeah that's people being dumb

But the pelican was so covered in bugs that I got 34 kills with the cluster bomb that time haha

[glacial light]

The steepest hill in my city is like 10 feet tall so I know flat

[blissful sparrow]

the only person who is allowed to call in stuff directly on the LZ is the last one out

[undone veldt]

Wait how does that endanger samples?

[sinful bay]

they can clip out of the map or become hard to find

[honest acorn]

If there's 2 people on board and the 2 people who are outside have samples and get killed the pelican will leave without them

[blissful sparrow]

also if anyone is already in and then everyone else dies the ship just flies away

[undone veldt]

Ohhhh

I see

[glacial light]

These are what i'm talking about

[quick plinth]

alternatively it can just kill us

[glacial light]

Multiple heights for each highway

[idle hollow]

oh yeah i saw a few of those

[glacial light]

Or like driving and all you can see above you is more highway

[sinful bay]

hell

[idle hollow]

i don't even know what's comparable to those in the UK

the most i've seen is a bridge

oh my god i know what it is

we just have a roundabout instead

like

that whole huge thing would be a roundabout

[sinful bay]

texas?

[undone veldt]

Also, take your bets, when this major order is completed:

A. The bugs are driven back and start expanding in another direction away from the currently held territories

B. The devices go terrible wrong and somehow empower the bugs leading them to spread even faster in the future

[south temple]

B

[idle hollow]

B

super earth is intentionally breeding bugs for oil

why would they not want more

[glacial light]

Both

[keen zinc]

Growth hormones

[glacial light]

Yup I Google Texas highway

[sinful bay]

C. The signal does jack against the bugs but bring in a new enemy faction because it turns into a huge "I am here" beam

[glacial light]

The oil abundance would explain why are mechs are basically made of plastic

[south temple]

ILLUMINATE RAHHHH

[sinful bay]

Yeah is what I am thinking tbh

is also how the humans called the tyranids into their universe in 40k whoops

[south temple]

i can’t wait for cross map sniping to resume

[unreal merlin]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/582712150695477258/1216180794457067540/RDT_20240309_161724.mp4?ex=65ff73a0&is=65ecfea0&hm=485f08f574e7e12d139c06c0169044466e363b79520d9e8a6f7876f6874bdd9c&

[quick plinth]

I wish shadowplay didn't kill my frames

[quick plinth]

looks like intentional baiting to me

on 9s pre today's changes I only ever saw about 5 bile titans

[honest acorn]

It's gotta be

[quick plinth]

which to be fair is still too many

considering pre today's changes you also had more chargers around and weaker AT options

[meager saffron]

what're the patch notes

[blissful sparrow]

Charger Head HP lowered
Charger and BIle Titan relative spawnrate lowered
New Mission type

[unreal merlin]

Less heavy armor in general on higher difficulties, with a specific focus on bugs. Also chargers' heads are vulnerable to EAT/RR one-shot now instead of needing to do the LEG META

[fringe quiver]

Some things fixed, some bugs acknowledged

They wanted to stay away from EFT so they made sure you didn't have to do leg meta

Based tbh

[tidal wing]

yeah you can headshot Chargers with the EAT now

[honest acorn]

I posted them up a ways

#1204832579287519292 message

[rich marlin]

Oh thank God

The one helldive difficulty I went on was ridiculous

There was no escape or managing any of it even with a full team

The bile titan spawns were insane and i doubt we got the worst of it

[junior badge]

man, since now two patches ago, I get so many crashes 😦

[modest fiber]

<@&1206091872716595200> started doing the major order, so am once again requesting more dudes

[junior badge]

sorry, going for my personal order first

[modest fiber]

i did that on randoms.. was a mistake but at least we finished the mission, no extracts

[sinful bay]

happened two to me last night, was a huge bummer

Double bummer when my "friend" didn't wanted to wait for me and just finished the mission while I was going back to it

[blissful sparrow]

i've thankfully been relatively stable, just repeatedly run into the bug where you can't respawn

[sinful bay]

For bugs, I once dived between two rocks and got stuck

had to F myself with a grenade

[keen zinc]

https://fixupx.com/pinglyadya/status/1767528567368568842?s=46&t=ZbmV7-uIay4ajy_w8rT0yQ

[undone veldt]

So like, how do I deal with hunters?

Because even if they’re easy to kill god they feel terrible to fight

[graceful bluff]

shotgun

[modest fiber]

shoot them :3

[fringe quiver]

An application of freedom bullets usually works well

[blissful sparrow]

Rover drone is the convenient way to do it

but just the habit of shooting them quickly and efficently is the most consistent way

[honest acorn]

My best feeling tool has honestly been the Scythe

[quick plinth]

the heriarchy of targets when I'm dealing with a swarm places hunters like right bloew the heavies

[honest acorn]

Kills them very quickly by snipping legs and works well enough at any range

[glacial light]

Shield let's you soak a few hunter hits without being slowed

[quick plinth]

Stalkers
Bile Titans
Chargers
Hunters
(everything else)

[honest acorn]

yeah I also run the shield almost always to avoid the slowed death spiral

[undone veldt]

I should really get shield

[limber pike]

Spray and Pray both the gun and the tactic

[blissful sparrow]

tbh i kill Hunters before Chargers

they are like 3 times faster an dtwice as dangerous and also there is 10 times as many of them

Orbital EMS is also solid before they spread out

[glacial light]

With shield I can ignore hunters for like a good few seconds to go after heavies, or ig shoot some hunters. Reloading in a swarm isn't a death sentence is the big thing

But melee crits still hurt

Medium stim feels better than heavy cause it let's you not run out of stamina

[undone veldt]

Also all the SMGs are one handed right?

[blissful sparrow]

All 2 of them yes

[undone veldt]

Sick

[blissful sparrow]

tho i personally didn't enjoy the knight

[glacial light]

I like defender over liberator for the 1 handedness

[blissful sparrow]

too high rpm and too little punch

But defender is sweet

[undone veldt]

How do you get the knight anyway?

I can’t find it anywhere

[glacial light]

You need the DLC

[undone veldt]

Ah

Will it ever come out in a different way?

[glacial light]

Not sure

[undone veldt]

Damn

I kinda liked it after picking it up off my friend’s body

[glacial light]

It's not really good but for a completionist it's unattainable

[undone veldt]

And I kinda don’t like the defender

[glacial light]

Eats up ammo too fast

And weak damage overall

Even with it's rare of fire and mag size

[blissful sparrow]

also just feels bad to fire

it rattles around like a lose screw

[glacial light]

I thought it'd be good against bugs it takes like 2 or 3 bullets to deal with the weakest bug

[undone veldt]

Also none of the (idk what else to call them) battlepasses will become unbuyable right?

[blissful sparrow]

yes, they are all permanent

[glacial light]

Bless the devs for that

[undone veldt]

Sick

[sinful bay]

oh god you know what we will
eventually
"Is not a matter of if
It is a metter of when"
get?

[south temple]

good

[sinful bay]

I can't wait for halloween so we get the cadrboard box helmet

[keen zinc]

I do not understand how people think Hunters are OP

They are the tunnel vision punish bug that punishes tunnel vision

[blissful sparrow]

they are not OP at all

they are just incredibly annoying

and t hey are everywhere

[keen zinc]

Good, food for the stalwart

Knee deep in hunter guts

[blissful sparrow]

and when they hit you once you can't move anymore

[keen zinc]

Yeah they're supposed to slow you down

You see how slow the other bugs are? If they took away Hunters slow, Warriors would literally never reach you

[blissful sparrow]

the warriors don't reach you if the hunter hits you either

cause the hunter kills you

[honest acorn]

Yeah if there’s an OP thing it’s that hunters don’t really do their “job” of slowing players down for other bugs because they just kill you

[velvet pollen]

These are called flyovers

[blissful sparrow]

yeah, Hunters really should be doing something like latch onto you to slow you down instead of slashing you for 50+ damage

[honest acorn]

That’d be nice yeah

[keen zinc]

The tongue lash thing on the cover art

Grab you and slow you down with their tongue grabs so Warriors can come cut your head off

And I honestly think Hunters only do as much damage as they do due to headshots from how they swing downward and are bigger

Cuz I've been hit by them whilst moving around a lot and only been sorta chipped and slowed

[stone bridge]

The actual issue is that Hunters have like, 6 or 7 unique tricks and hard carry the terminid infantry roster just by existing

There should be a power redistribution so more stuff is actually threatening

Rather than Hunters having 80% of the real danger

[keen zinc]

I could see nerfing their damage and making Warriors a bit more of a hustle to attack slowed targets

Actually, the cover shows a termanid warrior leaping

Give them a leap that is triggered by someone having the slow affect on them

[blissful sparrow]

Warriors just suffer from the most popular weapons being optimal warrior counters

[keen zinc]

More that they're slow as hell and do the video game circle around instead of attacking

[blissful sparrow]

i don't even know what warriors even do cause i haven't not oneshot them from 50m away for the past 50 or so hours

[keen zinc]

They do big damage

Like if you land amongst Warriors you are dead meat

They do lift their tails up as some kind of threat display

I wonder if there is anything actually about that

[glacial light]

One thing I'm surprised doesn't exist is a carrier bug that carries little ones on its back in protective pouches or something

Kill the carrier and it's passengers just spew out

[blissful sparrow]

maybe together with the release of the APC 😄

[glacial light]

Bug APC skin when

I want to drive a biomechanical monstrosity

[graceful bluff]

We already have the super destroyers for the token clown car units :v

[glacial light]

Ok let me drive my super destroyer into atmosphere real quick

[graceful bluff]

It already is in atmo during missions :v

[stark ether]

i missed the word "skin" and was imagining a giant spider that when you kill it releases yet more spiders

[south temple]

soon

you kill a charger and it spawns 10 hunters :)

or maybe a bile spewer spawns the small fuckers

[glacial light]

You kill a hunter then 2 spawn in its place

[graceful bluff]

a fake bile spewer that's a transport unit instead

if you pop the back they all spew out

[glacial light]

Helldiver fake teammates that's just 3 hunters in a trenchcoat suit

[keen zinc]

That's what the nursing spewer should be imo

Full of bile scavengers

[blissful sparrow]

i want bug artillery to throw scavengers at me instead of explosions

[stark ether]

dont give joel ideas

[graceful bluff]

Instead it's just full of pilk

[blissful sparrow]

little scavengers with little parachutes

[south temple]

i agree it would be so unfun in the best way

[graceful bluff]

Would also feel amazing gas striking that

Suddenly going from 1 kill to like 20

[south temple]

YEAH

[graceful bluff]

Speaking of gas strike

why the fuck don't you get two gas strikes with the upgrade

[keen zinc]

Because it's a strike not a barrage

Dingus

It specifically specifies Barrage stratagems

[glacial light]

Gas is expensive

[graceful bluff]

They're already skimping me on how much is in the canister

[glacial light]

Yea since the nerf gas needs a bigger area

Most enemies just walk out before they die

[keen zinc]

Why does it kill helldivers anyhow

Ain't we wearing gas masks

[glacial light]

They don't have filters

[keen zinc]

What a scam

[glacial light]

Our expected lifespan is 2 minutes they're not spending those requisitions on us

[pale remnant]

filters cost extra

[stark ether]

iirc the gas is corrosive not just toxic

[blissful sparrow]

its corrosive gas, not even really poison gas

[graceful bluff]

Yeah it's corrosive gas

[stark ether]

so it probably just disolves the filters

[graceful bluff]

purified redditor tears

[stark ether]

no that would be toxic

[honest acorn]

Same way it kills robots I imagine

[graceful bluff]

highly corrosive gas doesn't really give a shit what it hits

[keen zinc]

Treat our suits with a neutralizing agent that protects us from the corrosive gas

Let me fight through the gas and maybe I'll use it

Maybe

[graceful bluff]

We used to have that

but budget cuts :v

[stark ether]

we used to have ppe now sop is just dont stand where it hurts

[glacial light]

They wanted to pay for less transition surgeries so they removed the fire proofing and gas to cut costs

Can't claim those benefits if you're dead

[keen zinc]

https://www.rxddit.com/r/Helldivers/s/a86TwlpIan

[sweet surge]

Did I miss the dunking on operatorderwski and like?

Damn

[honest acorn]

I hit a Bile Titan on the head with a 500 kg and it didn’t die

Ok not quite the head

It was like the back of the neck/shoulder area

But that feels wrong

[blissful sparrow]

Just did that today in a Bot Exterminate mission. Killed maybe 150 bots just sprinting across the map in my heavy explosive resist armor, getting occassionally ragdolled all over the place by the Free Orbital Artilery

[meager saffron]

I think it would be extremely funny to have so much explosive protection that you can use orbital strikes to rocket jump

I managed to damage boost out of a Situation with my teammate's cluster bombs once and I felt like a god

[blissful sparrow]

the real limit is just that you do run out stimms decently fast

[glacial light]

Yup

[quick plinth]

Calling all <@&1206091872716595200> need 2 more

[glacial light]

I am once again asking for heavy stim armor

[graceful bluff]

I am once again asking for heavy stealth armor

[south temple]

the drip would be insane

[blissful sparrow]

Harmacist armor

[south temple]

medic dozer style

[tidal wing]

it's so funny that there is Light "Medium" armor

[honest acorn]

Class too soon sorry

[glacial light]

Call a medic, but not for me

[undone veldt]

anyone wanna dive?

[kindred lintel]

ill be free in around 10 minutes

[undone veldt]

sick

[granite rivet]

i'll also join in if you have a spot, what difficulty?

[undone veldt]

5

[granite rivet]

sounds good to me

[granite rivet]

just ping me when you're ready to go

[undone veldt]

Actually Im not sure Ill be able to

Im sorry

[granite rivet]

that's alright

[cobalt patrol]

<@&1206091872716595200> Who wants to help me break in my new computer?

[granite rivet]

i'd be up for it in like 5 minutes

[cobalt patrol]

ahahahaha

i have everything maxed out in HD2

and a 140 fps

[umbral temple]

im down 2 helldive

[cobalt patrol]

Hang, i'm having a few tech issues

[graceful bluff]

rip steam

[cobalt patrol]

Wait, did steam go down?

[umbral temple]

its tuesday

[steady bone]

yes, maintainence

[umbral temple]

maintenance day

its always spotty today

[sinful bay]

Ah

it will be like this for an hour or?

[unkempt river]

Seems to be done

[steady bone]

it varies from area to area

[alpine seal]

dang

keep getting robbed of my pink samples

first meteor landing right as i extract now steam maintenance

[idle hollow]

my advice for super samples is to drop them at the evac site

so you dont lose them

[cobalt patrol]

@unkempt river brb

[keen zinc]

My flavorite

[rapid plover]

I do enjoy the Padded light armor

[quick plinth]

light gunner I think its called

yeah its real nice for bots

[idle hollow]

light gunner is my favourite armour

[quick plinth]

the mobility of light with the protection of medium

[idle hollow]

i love that it's just

a PACA and some pants and a long sleeve shirt

and leather boots and gloves

[rapid plover]

Though Scout is also a nice perk to have
Might switch back to that eventually, but I haven't progressed that far in the Warbond yet

[agile fable]

folks, the desire to helldive is calling me. UNFORTUNATELY i'm broke AF and can't afford it yet.

[graceful bluff]

https://isthereanydeal.com/game/helldivers-2/info/ it's a good bit off on other sites at the moment if that helps

https://fxtwitter.com/MDKII/status/1767657913739346187

[meager saffron]

CHRIST

[glacial light]

Is that comic still going?

I remember I dropped out when it kind of just stopped

[upbeat vector]

Eh, kind of

It gets like, a new page a year-ish?

[granite rivet]

<@&1206091872716595200> we're looking for a 4th, difficulty 6

https://discord.gg/JHHcdwec

[cobalt patrol]

I wish we had some easy way to pool money for folks for shit like this. CAnot afford the full game to gift someone, could totally throw a fiver

[glacial light]

If there was a four pack i'd buy one and give few a out

[granite rivet]

crowdfunding buying a game is serious latestage capitalism

[cobalt patrol]

Yeah, but like also what we g onna do? I'm disabled and chronically ill and shit, i aint got income, but i still like helping people and paying it foward for folks\

someone was generous enough to gift me the game

[granite rivet]

totally fair

[glacial light]

Games tax that lets everyone claim free games, games socialism

If it goes on sale, there's someone that wants to play, and i'm feeling generous i'll gift a copy or 2

[cobalt patrol]

Right now it seems there's sales on other sites for -17% which aint bad

[glacial light]

3384-4146

[meager sandal]

is helldivers not working now for anyone else?

[glacial light]

We had some issues joining each other

[idle hollow]

It’s steam maintenance day

[meager sandal]

It was fine just a second ago but now it's having issues on launch

also steam maintence ended by now right?

[cobalt patrol]

https://i.redd.it/7t7thccrbync1.jpeg

[meager sandal]

Weird nevermind it's fine now

[glacial light]

RIP we had to disband cause steam dumb

[barren iron]

aw really

I was ready to play too

[undone veldt]

Damn

[barren iron]

@cobalt patrol I see you still in vc are you still helldivering or nah

[glacial light]

They may be afk, we said we'd try again in an hour for those that were free

[cobalt patrol]

I am not currently

[barren iron]

aw

fwiw I am currently in a pub

not the same tho

been playing the mechwarriors 5 ost

[alpine seal]

why are the guard dog rover and guard dog AR in completely separate sections in the R shop

i want to believe two separate divisions coincidentally came across the same idea

[tidal wing]

two Super Earth geniuses, independently: "what if we built a friendly fire robot"

[red steeple]

convergent evolution real

[honest acorn]

putting a gun on a device

[ivory swallow]

https://fixupx.com/triumbrush/status/1767560500706214193?s=20

[honest acorn]

I think its funny that they're blue beacons

[wind arrow]

yeah i assume they just meant rail gun calldowns rather than shooting with it

[autumn plover]

yeah i think thats the joke

cuz you see the railgun image for the strat

theyre lil floating hud pieces next to each strat lol

[glacial light]

Does steam work now

[steady vine]

I don't think so

[granite rivet]

pfft that is hilarious i love that

[glacial light]

Carbot is perfect to animate helldiver stuff

They got the silly in check

[rich marlin]

Heres a good rp moment:
https://www.instagram.com/reel/C4EIBtkRfAw/?igsh=MXg5c211NTkzOG42Mw==

the_dazi_guy

Likes

21797

Instagram

[ivory swallow]

https://fixupx.com/pinglyadya/status/1767528567368568842?s=46

[cobalt patrol]

CAn we not link rehosted content? Fucking sucks for the original creator.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZORE-wxQL18 here's the actual original

[rich marlin]

Thanks for finding the original

[wraith furnace]

The fucking wifi one

[cobalt patrol]

Sorry for being a grump about it, i've seen it stolen twice (both insta and tiktok) and that shit really gets my goat

[rich marlin]

Makes sense, I'm just memescrolling at work with no thought to who posted it

No thoughts head empty, scroll funny HD2 memes

[stone bridge]

<@&1206091872716595200> anyone up to play?

[cobalt patrol]

Y E S

[unkempt river]

oof

[wraith furnace]

I would be if I didn't uninstall the game in an attempt to fix my sleep lmao

[stone bridge]

[cobalt patrol]

What do you mean oof?

Come helldive

(or else)

[unkempt river]

I just got to work

[cobalt patrol]

Oh, lol

<@&1206091872716595200> Anyone else? we've room for two more

[glad marsh]

I'm.. debating, gimme 10 to figure it out

[granite rivet]

i thought i recognized that channel, they did a hilarious remnant 2 video a while back

https://youtu.be/zIAS7bfZ4BA?si=44R5qq53kLTp8L65

[glad marsh]

Ah.. seems all the spots are taken up

[unkempt river]

Varrick: Zhu Li! Do the thing.
Zhu Li: ⬆️➡️⬇️⬇️⬇️

[cobalt patrol]

https://i.redd.it/1svhd7ijwvnc1.png

[jolly mortar]

colony drop stratagem when

[glad marsh]

@stone bridge mind letting me know when a spot opens up?

[cobalt patrol]

wILL DO!

If you want to see what the game looks like with maxed stats, i'm streaming

[glad marsh]

Eh my internet doesn't handle livestreams very well on discord

[stone bridge]

@cobalt patrol https://www.tumblr.com/helldivers-2/744762290870665216/new-stratagems?source=share

[pale remnant]

yoo, missile silo sounds awesome

[glad marsh]

It looks awesome too

There is footage of it somewhere...

What I am a little weirded out by is the stinger being limited use

[cobalt patrol]

He's watching me helldive

[burnt vapor]

My guess is it’s either legacy text or flying enemies are meant to be quite rare
it could also just be an incredibly strange design choice

[cobalt patrol]

We dont know how much ammo it actually carreis though

OPh

single use

NEVER MIND

I think the actual balanincg factor is the 30s call in

like that's good

[glad marsh]

It feels kinda weird though, in a universe where the SPEAR exists and can deal with so many ground threats (all of them), it's unlimited use (with a lengthy cooldown, to be fair)

While the stinger can presumably only deal with air threats, and yet it's limited use

If it's like the EATs, but for air... The choice to make it limited use is very strange to me

[stone bridge]

I mean here's the thing

We're trying to extrapolate data based on a supremely limited set of factors

[jolly mortar]

we don't even know if the stats on that image are the actual, final ones going into the game

that could be a dev-build thing they put up because the stuff leaked

[glad marsh]

This is true!

We also have no idea when they're gonna be here

[jolly mortar]

yeah, all we know is it's vaguely sometime after tomorrow

because the 14th is the next content drop

[cobalt patrol]

This.

[jolly mortar]

also if we take the whole '50+ hidden stats' thing the devs said as fact, even if those listed stats in the image are 100% accurate to release, it could still play different than how we're all picturing it based off reading a buncha numbers

[honest acorn]

If I were to guess the Stinger's deal is shooting down bot drops

Which seems awful strong

[mortal wing]

SPEAR?

[meager saffron]

the SEAF SAM is already pretty good

if the stinger is just

[cobalt patrol]

also, again, 30s cooldown.

[meager saffron]

a pocket SEAF SAM you can spawn in at any point

that's pretty nice

[cobalt patrol]

like 30s is insane

[honest acorn]

Spear sucks at at killing dropships

[strange vine]

spear locks onto the dropship body, not the engines iirc

[honest acorn]

yeah

[strange vine]

which doesnt kill it

[mortal wing]

I'm just a bit confused on what stinger is

[strange vine]

also gonna manifest this horrid idea: bot gunships

[honest acorn]

I suspect the stinger's niche is primarily thus far unrevealed enemies

yeah stuff like that

[glad marsh]

Has to be

[mortal wing]

Could you post the image itself? Cannot open tumblr atm

[glad marsh]

||we do know there will be flying bugs, after all||

[cobalt patrol]

https://64.media.tumblr.com/88e676dedbfe20de92f77fac11421574/1b66e3518d70a92b-e0/s1280x1920/c6930cb54d092d76f95b3918c9a009cb483e4856.jpg

[mortal wing]

bleh, feels like I'm being an ass now
I will just try reading the tiny text

[meager saffron]

also 30s souped up EATs might be worth the 5 use limit

in conjunction with EATs

[glad marsh]

If it drops two launchers I can see it being worth it

[meager saffron]

ye

[honest acorn]

Honestly if it reliably kills dropships that's pretty good

[unkempt river]

MS-220 has me

[meager saffron]

it would probably need to because there is uh

some issues

with shooting down dropships

[honest acorn]

That's like 160+ dead bots a mission

[mortal wing]

wonder how ms-220 looks like

[meager saffron]

and wasting a shot like with the spear would still feel fucking awful if you got 1/30s

[unkempt river]

And if has 1 or more missiles

Cause MS-220 as a drop that you just hammer down before engaging a group of enemies and then can target like... the Tank or Bile Titan with to clear it would be 10/10, imo.

Unless it occupies a support weapon slot, in which case, it might be a bit worse. But even so, it will depend on the # of uses per drop

[honest acorn]

Yeah I'm really curious how the silo works

[glad marsh]

I have footage, if you wanna see

[honest acorn]

sure

[glad marsh]

Spoilered for those who don't want to see it
||https://youtu.be/-2JyrsiADKM?si=hXHPmsnbjvaXyQBA||

[mortal wing]

it does say support weapon. no?

[honest acorn]

oh wow

That's dope

That's gonna be extremely nice for command bunkers and such

[glad marsh]

Indeedy

Remember though

Only 1 missile in the silo, and the designator takes up your support weapon slot

[mortal wing]

3 minutes cooldown hmm

[honest acorn]

Yeah there's a real cost, I like the look of it for "scavenger" builds where I don't pack a support weapon

Same as a sentry - that's not that bad ime

[cobalt patrol]

https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/2443837939169679857/77DB76E03318132B95DBBDE8D3756E380A64A830/?imw=5000&imh=5000&ima=fit&impolicy=Letterbox&imcolor=%23000000&letterbox=false

[glad marsh]

I like it for running around as a solo objective hunter for your team

[cobalt patrol]

Max graphics helldiverfs is Real pretty.

[glad marsh]

I keep having to turn it down