#Helldivers 2: For Managed Democracy!

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undone veldt
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I’ve had problem’s because I’m pretty sure on fire bugs can ignite you

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So hunters just jump and I ignite

oblique storm
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I have but only through "Alright just gotta line up-" faceplanted via charger

honest acorn
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ah that is fair

honest acorn
undone veldt
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Fair

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I don’t have the personal shield so that’s probably apart of the issue

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Fire builds get way safer with it

oblique storm
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I gotta do more heavy armor + flamer + shield

honest acorn
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It's funny how I went from "personal shield is goated vs bots but I don't need it for bugs" to the exact opposite

undone veldt
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Because before you even know what happened the entire screen blurs and you’re launched 50 feet away

oblique storm
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and then you explode

undone veldt
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And then yah you die violently

barren warren
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"SWEET LIBERTY MY LE-"

undone veldt
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Everyone was talking about mavlevalon when Draupnir was the real villain

honest acorn
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Huh? I love fighting on Draupnir

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It's got good ass sight lines a lot of the time

undone veldt
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Yah but it’s also the only bug planet I can name off the top of my head

honest acorn
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Erata Prime is the eternal bug war planet imo

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It's been a front for literally the entire time and hasn't budged an inch

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And its a horrible extreme heat planet

undone veldt
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What does extreme heat do actually?

honest acorn
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Less stamina and lasers overheat faster

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As a running and scythe enjoyer I hate it so much

cobalt patrol
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SIMPLY APPLY FLAMETHROWER

undone veldt
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Oh that sucks

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Stamina never feels like enough during a fight

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Especially with how much I dive

glacial light
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I've realized heavy armor does really well against bots infantry and rockets so unless you're actively drawing attention to tank then shield is optional for bots compares to bugs where it can be life and death whether your shield is charged

oak crow
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personally Meridia is my favorite

honest acorn
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Fenrir 3 for me

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It's so pretty

glacial light
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I use shield again cause heavy armor is still not where I want it to be

honest acorn
dusty spruce
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The desert planets are harsh. Against bugs is one thing, but Ustotu (bot desert planet) was hell for me. The open sightlines with little cover on the sandier parts got me shredded by Devastator and tank fire

undone veldt
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Yah, getting bots in a funnel is so helpful

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Really stops the harassment fire and tanks

oak crow
# honest acorn It's so pretty

personally i just can’t get enough of the jungle planets. the foliage, the atmosphere, hell even just the extra sound effects. it’s all so great.

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Fenrir is nice tho

undone veldt
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Honestly I have a problem with any planet with fog

oak crow
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I focused on it a bit when it was falling a while back

undone veldt
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Enemies are already kinda hard to tell when they’re dead

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But I’ve wasted so much ammo shooting at dead enemies in fog

glacial light
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I do love jungle being thick and blocking line of sight to make engagements more close quarters until you blow up a ton of trees with a stratagem to open up a wide open corridor for exchanging fire. That simple short to long range shift is like really easily missed but changes up the game in a nice way

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It adds environmental environmentalism I like

undone veldt
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Jungle planets are honestly so nice just for the ability to occasionally sneak past enemies

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It’s so much easier with all the line of sight blockers

dusty spruce
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I just wish the smallest shrub in existence didn't totally block my arc thrower shots that have no problem arcing through 18 chargers to zap my teammate 50m further, but I guess all these leaves are made of Super Rubber™

glacial light
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It's cause the plants are made of conductive metal and form a Faraday cage /s

undone veldt
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Also I’m about to start using it, how does the auto canon preform against armor?

alpine seal
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bug or bot

undone veldt
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Bug

honest acorn
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It's meh

alpine seal
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autocannon vs. charger is difficult, doesn't yellow leg it like rockets

stone bridge
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It only has medium armour pen, but it's on the high end and has high damage

honest acorn
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Credible vs chargers if you can hit the tail bulb, and awkward vs bile titans in general

alpine seal
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good against bots though, especially hulk

stone bridge
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You need to hit weak points vs heavies

undone veldt
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Ah IC

alpine seal
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twoshots them to the eye slit

undone veldt
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So I’ll probably save it for bots then

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Use it for barreling hulks

glacial light
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It'd excellent against bots

honest acorn
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yeah it works awesome on bots

stone bridge
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Imo it's really good against bugs too

honest acorn
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it does chop up hive guards and brood commanders really well

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And I've been seeing more of those lately

stone bridge
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One of the best weapons into either Spewer variant

honest acorn
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oh yeah that too

alpine seal
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oh true

honest acorn
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Is there a way to see if a map is going to be a "bile map" before starting it?

undone veldt
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Oh so it’s great for anything sans charger and bile titans essentially?

alpine seal
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laser cannon is my goto for bugs but it does struggle vs. bile spewers

honest acorn
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yeah and its ok on chargers

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IIRC 5 shots to the butt is a kill

undone veldt
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That’s not too bad

alpine seal
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better matchup vs. chargers though, they have pretty similar kill conditions on charger butts but does not need to reload

undone veldt
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I think if I run auto cannon on bugs I’ll probably just wanna take some other stuff for bile titans

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Unfortunately I don’t have a lot for that yet

alpine seal
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sometimes i run flamethrower as an anti-charger specialist weapon since you can cook the leg off with about half a magazine

honest acorn
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There's just not that many options for bile titans

undone veldt
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Only EATs so far really

alpine seal
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though that leaves me very vulnerable vs. titans

honest acorn
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EATs RR, Railgun

alpine seal
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then again - bile titans are basically stratagem food anyway

honest acorn
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That's kind of it outside of strats

undone veldt
undone veldt
alpine seal
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so i don't feel that bad not prepping for them weapons wise

stone bridge
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Yeah I bring Airstrike + 500kg so I've got 5 chances to kill a Bile

rare nymph
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I've had some success with using the Patriot's rockets on Biles, but I haven't seriously tested it

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So take that with a big ol' grain of salt

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And they're prolly more efficient to use on other things

meager saffron
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mech rockets are ~ equal to an EAT

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so it wouldn't surprise me

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face-blasting biles with EATs works pretty well

alpine seal
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2 rockets to the head *usually kills a titan

cobalt patrol
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It's 1-3 in my expedrience

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1 if you get the perfect mouth shot whil;e it's vomiting and they just explode

alpine seal
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it's a life or death situation though. if it gets the barf off the mech is toast

stone bridge
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Yeah I find its better to just rocket it normally

cobalt patrol
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@red steeple with the friendly fire damage: 3666.

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WE SEE YOU ROM

meager saffron
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just keep lobbing rockets at its skull and things will probably be fine

granite rivet
rare nymph
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Yeah, I wouldn't call in a mech to go Bile hunting, but if one shows up while I'm in one I'm emptying the pod till it stops moving

stray tide
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Rail gun is still good against biles if on unsafe

red steeple
stone bridge
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I'm fairly sure the Railgun can still one shot Biles to the jaw webbing but you need high charge

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Which makes the shot window extremely precise

sour falcon
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I’ve been going back to my pre-20 option and running the EAT again for anti-armor, it seems to work okay for Biles on 8

rare nymph
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Reminds me of the time one of my friends was bleeding out and ran straight into my face screaming "Stim me!" while I was charging an unsafe railgun at the hulk behind him

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Miraculously, I managed to:

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  1. Not explode
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  1. Not take his head off
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  1. One-shot the hulk in the eye
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And 4. Stim him

granite rivet
rare nymph
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This was all in the span of like half a second, and I suspect I will not be topping that for quite some time lmao

quick plinth
hot meadow
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grenade launcher is the best support weapon

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send post, no questions please

stone bridge
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<@&1206091872716595200> anyone for diving in about ~10?

granite rivet
stone bridge
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6+, usually

shy prairie
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i've yet to make my way to 6

granite rivet
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difficulty 7 is like right on where it starts to get overwhelming for me, i tend to play around difficulty 5 casualy

stone bridge
stone bridge
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Also I'm ready to roll, will be in Activity 1

oblique storm
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I did a Helldiver mission recently

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or, Helldive Difficulty

wraith furnace
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I love

When I lose connection

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And had

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A FULL

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3

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FUCKING

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SUPER SAMPLES

quick plinth
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yeah same here

wraith furnace
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AND I LOST THEM

quick plinth
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steam maitenance

wraith furnace
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AAAAAAAAARGGGHHHHHHHH

final frigate
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had a real keystone cops ass time of it tonight

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we were at the extraction point and we kept getting bugfucked

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we lost like 12 mans there, it was ridiculous

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we got down to no mans left, one guy falling from the sky, and nothing else but corpses

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two of us got on mic to start shouting at him to get on the dropship and just GO

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rip samples but we're better off without you anyway

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I think I'm kinda mid at this game

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I'm so much better at deep rock

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but this is new so here I am

rich marlin
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the harder difficulties are like really hard

final frigate
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I'm getting my ass bounced around on 4

rich marlin
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sometimes it do be that way

final frigate
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I'm sure I'll get my buglegs eventually

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but I haven't been able to play very consistently

rich marlin
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hm now do I wanna offer and be social or grind alone

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hmmmm

final frigate
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roll your bones

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even social grind odd

hot meadow
final frigate
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that's worth a lot

rich marlin
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heck it, <@&1206091872716595200> , I need medals and I ain't gonna get that in trivial

dusty spruce
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This game also has a slightly rough start as you develop the right techniques and unlock equipment.
You'll eventually develop a playstyle that is right for you

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that and it is easy at any difficulty to get into a chaos spiral

wraith furnace
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Wanna join us on diff 6

rich marlin
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checks name

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no

rich marlin
wraith furnace
rich marlin
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I ain't going above Hard til like level 30

stone bridge
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That's a ton of levels, you don't need to go that high if you have a decent squad

wraith furnace
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looks at me running diff 7s

rich marlin
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I find it very stressful and just don't want to til I have a lot more equipment

stiff pine
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DRG has a higher TTK

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if you fuck up in helldivers you just fucking die

meager saffron
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in fairness DRG also has the old environmental instakills

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although they did nerf the yoinky bois

wraith furnace
final frigate
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yoinky boys are why I run the Fuck Yoinky Boys perk

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getting yoinked? just say no.

hot meadow
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I kept trying to force myself to use recoilless or railgun, but I’ve seen vastly more success ultimately using grenade launcher and choosing different anti armor, for example

quick plinth
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EATs my beloved

umbral temple
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I am trying to get my friends to join the cult of EAT

quick plinth
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literally one to two people bring it and heavies don't trouble you as much

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it also leaves a backpack slot empty and still frees you to use any other stratagem weapon of your choice

final frigate
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bu-but my infinite ammo laser beam

quick plinth
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Laser Canon is very nice now that they've buffed it

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I'll agree

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hitting the vents on bot heavies / turrets is nice with it it

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however you can still bring eats, laser cannon and a shield / dog backpack

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that's more than enough to deal with basically anything while still leaving you a forth slot for reds or greens

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though its probably more than what most people bring regarding blues

final frigate
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well yeah most people only bring 1 blue

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I guess the real trick would be to supply 2 guys with 1 normal blue and 2 EATs

quick plinth
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or two, if its a backpackless with a backpack. eg. grenade launcher, jump pack

final frigate
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really wanna be doing that

quick plinth
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its amazing on bugs

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you become death, destroyer of bugholes

final frigate
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I need another 800 supercredits though

quick plinth
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since you can just run in, under supporting fire of your friends, and start clearing the nest

quick plinth
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supercredits are the prem currency

final frigate
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I thought you got the nade launcher from the supercredit war bond thing

quick plinth
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the automatic grenade launcher is a stratagem

final frigate
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ohhh ok then I just need like 10k req slips

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since I have neither

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what's your primary gun here then

hot meadow
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My go to bug loadout has settled into rover, railcannon, grenade launcher and EAT with breaker or liberator

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I find that I end up quite self sufficient!

quick plinth
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on bugs I usually take either the punisher, breaker or breaker spray n pray (since the buff its basically like prenerf breaker in regards to horde clear)

final frigate
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I'm getting breaker next

hot meadow
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Against bots I swap rover for shield backpack, and if someone else isn’t bringing orbital laser I swap railcannon for orbital laser.

final frigate
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it's gonna whip sack

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not a huge fan of scrambling to each new gear priority as they unlock cause I'm not always sure what's good but this time I Know

stone bridge
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I think the Defender is an underrated choice against both bugs and bots

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Having really effective hipfire is shockingly good for avoiding normally frustrating situations

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It does depend on your weapon, but if you have good burst on your Support for anti-Stalker firepower you can skip out on the meatier primaries

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That's the main reason to run the Breaker and contemporaries

burnt vapor
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Defender is a very solid option and probably my current weapon of choice vs bots

quick plinth
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The defender is really nice since it 2 shots hunters

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but I've found it difficult to use against bots (I'm on controller so my aim isn't what it could be)

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*not me

merry cosmos
quick plinth
quick plinth
stark ether
fringe quiver
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I find patiently waiting is super inefficient

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but on the other hand

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just follow the host

rich marlin
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Helldiver acting up made me get off and go to bed

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am sad

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how dare this game make me be responsible

quick plinth
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I just had the most insane randoms experience ever

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no chat

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no voice coms

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but perfect understanding and cooperation at like difficulty 7 bots

stark ether
quick plinth
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we all mostly split off, silently doing bases via stratagems and if not loudly, once someone draws the bot drop

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since there can only really be one botdrop outside of geolocial survey objectives

wraith furnace
quick plinth
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however, upon trying out the spear some more, I feel like it's lockon should be more reliable than me simply taking a different stratagem and eyeballing it

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in most planetary conditions it's range is either severly reduced to non existing, sure in rare cases it's a godweapon, killing anything from as far as it can lock

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but as it currently stands it doesnt feel that great to bring when more often than not, terrain, the wather (fog, spores, ect) work against you

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which is annoying, because otherwise I love it

daring monolith
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I’ve tried it and felt severely restricted as to what I can kill with it. Especially vs bots not being able to lock onto devastators is a big thing. For bugs it’s not as bad but bugs tend to have the spores.

barren iron
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I would honestly rather not be able to lock onto devs

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if I could I would do it constantly then have no ammo for the hulks and tanks 💀

quick plinth
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what you lose in anti medium you gain greatly in anti heavy

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also

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being able to just, nuke fabricators from a distance without using eagles or orbitals is nice

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not so much on draupnir considering the god damn fog

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or most other bot planets it seems (dust, foliage, ect)

quartz cloak
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Yeah, if it was more consistent, maybe if it had an optical/laser guidance, it would be the best weapon in the game

barren iron
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excited for the m202 to be added

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the commando

stone bridge
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<@&1206091872716595200> anyone available to dive for a bit?

quartz cloak
barren iron
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one of the leaks|| is the M202 Flash (not literally)||

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||a quad-barreled rocket launcher||

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Helldivers 2 is killing it with new content! Loads of new weapons, armour and vehicles are coming to the game! In this video let's take a look at some of the more insane weapons coming soon!

0:00 New Weapons Look INSANE!
0:40 Stratagem Problems 😂
1:07 Mech Tech! How to Block Chargers!
1:43 Explosive Crossbow
2:16 Grenade Pistol WTF!
2:51 Quasar...

▶ Play video
unkempt river
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Fornicate it, I'll see if it is having a better time

quartz cloak
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Ahh, we had that in game 1 too

cobalt patrol
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and hades appears to be too\

feral fable
stone bridge
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yup!

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3/4

shy prairie
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is there anything im missing about not just getting space rocked on fenrir

blissful sparrow
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never stop running

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you have about 0.3 seconds to dive if it suddenly gets bright

dusky solar
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New patch

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Less titans and chargers on high diff for bugs

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More of other enemy types to compensate

barren iron
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Recoilles and EAT should 1 hit chargers

copper crest
blissful sparrow
quick plinth
hexed steeple
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any patch notes ?

stone bridge
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One to the head and done

hexed steeple
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real shit?

stone bridge
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notez

barren iron
stone bridge
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and yeah, just did a mission with @cobalt patrol as my loader

barren iron
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"should" as in "the patchnotes says it does, so it should do that"

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rather than like, wishful thinking

hexed steeple
stone bridge
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and yeah I agree

hexed steeple
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it was the only charger there so i was just kinda standing therel ike 'damn what do i do now'

blissful sparrow
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cry that it wasn't a supply pod?

hexed steeple
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real

stone bridge
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real

sinful bay
stone bridge
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it was very effective

quick plinth
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thats a great change tbh

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even if I think it might make them less tanky

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the head isnt an easy target as the charger is barrelling toward you

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the legs are arguably easier but still iffy

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however I think this'll make chargers more fair

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considering how many of them can be present some times

sinful bay
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'"Electronic Countermeasures" operation modifier, which had a chance of giving you a random stratagem instead of the one you input, has been removed in order to be reworked, and will be reintroduced in a future iteration. We found that this modifier wasn’t communicated clearly enough and overall caused more frustration than excitement with the way it was currently implemented. This change was made in 1.000.100 but was unintentionally omitted from the patch notes.'

Didn't knew about that

sinful bay
alpine seal
# stone bridge https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/553850/view/4113546867256852245?l=englis...

THIS IS AN OFFICIAL SUPER EARTH PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT. Your undivided attention is mandatory.

  • Biologist research into the dreaded Terminid Charger has revealed new insights into the workings of their ill-functioning brains. Particularly of note is their ability to be misdirected by certain pheromones, which are being used to lead Chargers off the front lines Helldivers are deploying in
  • Notes suggest Bile Titans may also be affected by this distraction measure
  • Additionally, Super Earth Research Corps has devised a new mixture for anti-tank weapons capable of destroying their heads in one shot
  • Intelligence has cracked the codes used for Automaton electronic jamming systems and have deployed ECCM measures, and successfully neutralized the risk of randomized stratagems. This was done a week ago but was redacted for security reasons
  • Automaton infiltration into Tien Kwan's exosuit production facilities has resulted in sabotaged ordnance having the chance to detonate inside the suit if fired while rotating. This will be remedied as soon as all the affected rockets has been shipped off to Super Destroyers galaxy-wide. Issue ongoing
sinful bay
alpine seal
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thats just steam for you

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possibly the worst comments section site ever

sinful bay
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4chan still exists

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but sad

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tho, in a happy note
I discovered yesterday that, indeed, the bots speak english ,and their chanting goes hard

quick plinth
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i honestly dont think thats english

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but rather the power of the human brain to recognise words where there might not really be any

sinful bay
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5KOgaE3FG4 i bet to differ, when you listen without the chaos around you can hear clear english

The socialist automaton marching chant from Helldivers 2!

Many thanks to all those who are helping interpret!
Here's a current consensus of the lyrics:
HEART - STEEL
WE - KILL
IRON - WILL
UNTO DAWN

HEART - STEEL
WE - KILL
IRON - WILL
UNTO DAWN

CYBERSTAN
CAN'T KEEP HER DOWN
WE COUNT DOWN
GO TO WAR!

CYBERSTAN
CAN'T KEEP HER DOWN
WE COUNT DOW...

▶ Play video
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expecially the "until down" part where the voice almost sounds human

barren iron
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considering literally everyone has a different idea of what they say

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I am inclined to think it just sounds like english

sinful bay
quick plinth
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like, untill I saw a video

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like that one

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assigning words to ehat they were saying

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I couldnt for the life of me figure out what it might even be

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but now thats the only interpretation my brain accepts no matter how much I listen to it

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like how you can mishear lyrics to a song and then after looking it up you hear the song correctly

sinful bay
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Fair, but i argue some parts are more clear than others, specially the
'CYBERSTAN
CAN'T KEEP HER DOWN
WE COUNT DOWN
GO TO WAR! '
part

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Which is when the robotic voice sounds the most human

quick plinth
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why would it be "her" though?

sinful bay
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lore says the reason the bots are doing what they are is because they are marching to cyberstain to liberate their creator, being a her, as far as i recall

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Because HD1 cyborgs got slaved etc etc

barren iron
sinful bay
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also that

quick plinth
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hm

sinful bay
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Tho someone should ask the devs otherwise it will become a SMT3-Nocturne situation

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where the boss theme for years people though it said "Another god rejected" and then-
It was proven it was just random english babble made with an text-to-speech voice

barren iron
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<@&1206091872716595200> anyone want to get a second lobby going?

hexed steeple
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sure thing

quick plinth
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I can, in about half an hour

cobalt patrol
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RIP briar

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Mo st of briars deaths were team kills

stone bridge
glacial light
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New patch today

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RR and EATs are now one shot to the head for chargers

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Charger head hp decreased

cobalt patrol
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@glacial light WE were just playing with that, it's great

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very noticable on the chargers

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Recoil with a reloader kicks arse

stone bridge
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Yeah, I think if you run an optimal gunner/loader setup you get serious work done

meager sandal
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Damn time to switch to RR from the auto cannon now

barren iron
burnt vapor
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||Looks like chemical warfare is back on the menu||

quick plinth
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I wonder what the bonus for that will be

burnt vapor
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Probably some form of damage resist/immunity against the relevant type? ||Gas Strikes and whatever gets added alongside||

sinful bay
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@barren iron your prediction came true

idle hollow
sinful bay
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Give me this

eager pine
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Oh, the new patch made Chargers one shottable with the EAT and Recoiless in the head.

sinful bay
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ye

stone bridge
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It's really nice actually

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Recoilless gunner/loader teams are very real into bugs now

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And they were already good

rotund marten
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Kind of a shame the spawn rates went down since I was enjoying the bugs actually having a ton of bulk, but at least there's more grenade fodder now

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knowing our luck all the heavy unit spawns are now Hunter packs

blissful sparrow
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28 brood commanders

unreal merlin
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so many hunters...

blissful sparrow
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More warriors or Hive guards would actually be enjoyable

unreal merlin
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Laser drone my beloved, don't melt yourself but you have a lot of work to do

sinful bay
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The little drone that could...

blissful sparrow
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atleast hive guards have some fun in trying to shoot between the gaps

rotund marten
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I actually like fighting Brood Commanders because the slugger pops their head off in a satisfying manner

cobalt patrol
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Flamethrower too melts heads

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and i think the Machine GUn and Stalwart just got a lot better with the increase in fodder.

sinful bay
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I can't be trusted with a flamer

cobalt patrol
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I can! I very r arely murder teamates with it.

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Now, high explosives? do not give me those

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I'm magnetically attracted to them.

sinful bay
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But I do understand that, I kinda need a railgun/GL if I gonna play something higher than normal, otherwise I will need to do backflips to deal with some enemies

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Now
Can I be trusted with a GL? No
Will I use it anyway? Yes.
Why?

"Oh, they're goin' ta have to glue you back together... IN HELL!"

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And because I got a bit frustrated yesterday that I needed a certain kind of weapon to destroy the anti-air turrents to destory those... red parts behind it.
And I just could not call stratagems at the time

quartz cloak
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So, in exactly one(1) update the recoilless rifle became my favourite weapon in the game

undone veldt
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You think in universe helldivers is a copyrighted term?

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Like if a corporation uses it without buying the rights super earth will sue the fuck out of them?

sinful bay
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Probably
Tho I do wonder, does super earth even have private corporations? It seems everything is goverment owned.

undone veldt
#

There’s references to private corporations that produce stims in the loading screen

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There’s the bit of stims having no long term side effects (study was paid for by a pharmacy company and then their slogan)

rotund marten
#

there's also an advert for a gun company

burnt vapor
#

yeah the Mechs are produced by Morgunson Arsenal

barren iron
#

if super earth didn't have a corrupt military induistrial complex it wouldn't be a good satire

glad orchid
#

There’s also different corp names that show up on the terminals during missions

#

Speaking of diegetic lore details, is there a translation for what’s posted on the illegal transmission towers during automaton missions?

quick crown
#

I really think for the AA guns and Mortars you should be allowed to kill em with small arms fire. At least within a certain range at least

#

BUT i didn't try grenades that might have worked too

#

I played myself

sinful bay
#

Also, I wish the grenade descriptions gave a better... descriptions before buying them with the medals

alpine seal
#

ran jump pack stalwart finally. i'm a believer

#

very fun

glacial light
#

Tell me the strat with jump pack stalwart

sinful bay
#

And with the light armor medic? As long as you stim yourself in time, you are almost immortal

glad orchid
meager sandal
#

Ok big question, why is the impact grenade icon like 240p

sinful bay
keen zinc
#

EYES UP, WE GOT FAST MOVERS

#

WARM IT UP

#

EVERYTHING YOU GOT

sinful bay
#

MY STALWART IS ALREADY AT MAXIMUM SPEED, COMMANDER

keen zinc
stark ether
#

i cant wait to see how this goes wrong

keen zinc
#

Apparently the flying bugs have been making appearance

#

IIINCOMIIIING

sinful bay
keen zinc
#

Impact Grenades are your friend, and I suggest the punisher or slugger primary

#

The knockback and single shot damage is useful

sinful bay
#

Oh may I ask why not the breaker?

keen zinc
#

I personally run the revolver for secondary to shoot hive guards

#

Doesn't kick enemies back like the pumps do

#

They can send a Brood Commander backwards 10 feet

#

This gives you space for shmovement

#

The slugger also pens medium

meager sandal
#

I like the slugger but I always struggle with bugs just because of its rate of fire, I like pairing it with the auto cannon for medium and above bugs

sinful bay
#

I am working towards grabbing a slugger

keen zinc
#

The stalwart is your primary, it handles all common targets

#

Your primary is your "oh shit"

#

So something with oomph is important

#

I like the punisher for it's kick and crowd control

#

The slugger is great but precise

#

I use the senator for precision shots

#

WE'VE GOT HOSTILES

kindred lintel
#

spoiler that, probably

#

first day of the patch and all

keen zinc
#

10-4

glacial light
#

We got Helldivers space shanties

sinful bay
#

And yeah the jetpack really need some getting used to

keen zinc
#

I hate how much AI art is being used in the helldivers community

oblique storm
#

is that auto-tuned or an ai voice

#

cuz it sounds like an ai voice

glacial light
#

Tik tok said it's Ai generated

#

Idk how they determine that whether community labeled or something

quick plinth
#

I just hate how Ai could've been something truly interesting and new, all those early outputs that looked like robot dreams

glacial light
#

Ope reading comments voice was ai generated

quick plinth
#

but it's all fueled by venture capital for sake profit so none of it can be truly ethically sourced

glacial light
#

This is why we fight automatons

kindred lintel
#

As someone who has created a makeshift image ai, its basically the only way to do it

#

(school project)

keen zinc
#

@quick plinth friend bequest? pwees

quick plinth
#

huh?

#

oh sure

#

@keen zinc

keen zinc
#

It says you not accepting friend requests

quick plinth
#

oh thats weird

#

here ill just send you one

glacial light
#

I've had that issue yesterday

#

Someone sent me one and I couldn't accept no matter how many times I pressed accept

quick plinth
#

oh no its just probably my privacy settings

rotund marten
#

so turns out the "kill devastators" objective means specifically normal devastators not heavy or rocket

#

so my attempt at doing it quickly by dropping into a 9, triggering a bot drop or two and lasering them didn't work because all of them were upgraded versions

kindred lintel
#

yea i think 4-6 has a lot more regular ones

limber pike
rotund marten
#

yeah, I did a 6 blitz and got like two

keen zinc
#

How are you getting that mission at 9s

#

How are you getting that mission at 9s

kindred lintel
#

I think they mean personal order

keen zinc
#

Ohhh

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Cuz I know there is a mission specifically for destroying devastators and it's always been heavy devs for me

quick crown
#

I was only looking at spoilers on the subreddit but i gotta be real

#

This is so cool

#

I would love to make one of these unironically

#

Also it would be fun for a cosplay too

glacial light
#

That would be really sick

#

You could even use it while moving like arrow keys i'm guessing

rotund marten
#

and presumably everyone elses' daily too

dusty spruce
#

I think it is if you’re up to date

#

I’ve still got Anti-Personnel Mines and kill Hunters since I didn’t play much the last two days

#

Not certain if having two is intended or not

#

Because it doesn’t wanna let me scroll

glacial light
#

I had 3 at once yesterday

#

Anti personnel mines one was painful

#

Speaking of painful who wants to <@&1206091872716595200> play?

#

I got the day off so i'm ready to no life

keen zinc
#

Getting a lot of use out of this on the reddit

lethal dagger
#

Looks like we're finally activating the terminid control system

strange vine
copper crest
#

The existence of the TCS is further proof of [redacted for anti-democratic statements]

graceful bluff
#

49188311

keen zinc
#

I hope we get more hordes of hunters and warriors and pouncers

copper crest
#

Gosh I wanna see what that looks like on Helldive

dusty spruce
#

oh I'm excited to use the arc thrower on these larger hordes of chaff

keen zinc
#

Stalwart gaming

barren iron
#

are there supposed to be flying bugs?

#

serious lack of them

honest acorn
#

I didn't see the patch notes posted here so here they are

#

Glad that chargers are easier to handle

kindred lintel
#

they are easier to handle, and less frequent

#

eats and recoiless and pretty comparable imo

#

eats are probably better

graceful bluff
#

eats for range and just being able to throw them whenever, recoilless for consistency imo

kindred lintel
#

yea the eats have significantly lower dropoff at range

barren iron
#

arc thrower users are my op

kindred lintel
#

i need to try it again now that charger head hp is reduced

#

should take the number of hits to a little lower

honest acorn
#

Oh yeah that'd probably help it a lot

barren iron
#

I HATE THE ARC THROWER

#

GRAHHHH

#

KICK ALL ARC THROWER USERS

#

(this is a joke)

#

but fr dont shoot the arc thrower near teammates

graceful bluff
#

also it's a cone so aim higher to avoid hitting the sides more

kindred lintel
#

whenever i use it someone literally dives in front of me, the person who has been shooting it forever, and gets mad at me for using it\

honest acorn
#

Arc thrower users just need their space

barren iron
#

in all cases where I've been killed by someone using an arc thrower

#

it has been their fault

honest acorn
#

I like to hear the krrr-zot krrr-zot krrr-zot krrr-zot from a good 50-100 meters over a sand dune ideally :p

barren iron
#

with the new eat/recoilless buff

keen zinc
barren iron
#

yeah but I haven't seen them

keen zinc
#

Only at specific side objectives like Stalkers

honest acorn
#

It's a really phenomenal gun it just needs allies who don't run in front of you and enough awareness to not shoot at at targets within ~5-10 meters of your people

undone veldt
#

Oh hell yah EATs are even better now for chargers

barren iron
#

that last part is the problem

#

I have even been killed at way longer ranges than is reasonable for them to even assume

#

there was a bile titan maybe 20-30 meters away

#

and it was jumping to me

honest acorn
#

very strange

barren iron
#

this guy has the arc thrower and guard dog

#

he is a machine who consumes reinforcements and produces failed missions...

honest acorn
#

go forth and roam for secondaries my friend

#

(referring to that guy, who I want hard cover between me and them)

barren iron
#

yes

lethal dagger
#

machine gun feels great in the current game state, even if they didn't change the gun at all lmao

barren iron
#

more chaff, less heavy is a buff to the machinegun

lethal dagger
#

yep

#

likewise

#

the laser guard dog is so sick right now

honest acorn
#

mg is a gun I didn't really respect until I went back to it after using a bunch of other specials

#

Same as the AMR

lethal dagger
#

machine gun / rover / EATs / autocannon turret felt great

#

on the newest bug mission

barren iron
#

I am a rover hater

blissful sparrow
south temple
#

rover my beloved

honest acorn
#

I'm split on the laserdog, it kills great and is wonderful for loud assaults, but I don't like how its the Patrol Waker 9001 and it gets hard to avoid FF when there's more than one of them

lethal dagger
#

i wish we could stow it

honest acorn
#

Yeah I'd love a safety for it

strange vine
#

iirc just the other day my ship technician dialogue rolled something about her hearing a rumour that some terminids were adapting to termicide during testing
Just a silly dissident rumour of course

dusty spruce
#

Arc thrower, guard dog, cluster bomb, mortar sentry
The perfect combination to be a walking friendly fire machine

lethal dagger
#

i am sure that the terminid menace will be controlled once and for all once the TCS is complete

blissful sparrow
honest acorn
#

these stupid fucking dissidents don't think the Terminid Control System can control the Terminids, like, they wouldn't have named it that if it didn't ffs

glacial light
#

<@&1206091872716595200> I am need once more

honest acorn
#

workin all day sorry

glacial light
#

RIP my one spontaneous day off, how dare work exist for other people

lethal dagger
#

my friend killed 2 bile titans with a 380 barrage

blissful sparrow
glacial light
#

Nice i'll be on in about 10 minutes

barren iron
#

arc thrower guy killed the entire team after I killed the charger with the RR and he got kicked by the host

keen zinc
#

I really REALLY wish the ballistic guard dog refilled off ammo boxes

#

Because it is REALLY GOOD

copper crest
#

Hound is/was supposed to be limited too but it's bugged

barren iron
#

REALLY?

#

really?

glad marsh
#

Just gimme 10

#

Maybe 15 minutes

honest acorn
#

No weird scything laser beams it just headshots everything within 50 meters in like .25 seconds

glacial light
#

I'll be in activity 2

keen zinc
honest acorn
#

Yeah it's really frustrating

copper crest
#

Yeah AIUI the yellow bars on the backpack are supposed to be coolant and get used up whenever the rover overheats and docks with you

glacial light
#

3575-1599

strange vine
#

This menu lets you check out all the game's weapons, vehicles, and starships in great detail, providing info on stats, mission effects, and even some lore tidbits!

***All of this is a fan-made animation. I have no idea what plans there are for these ominous consoles!

Helldivers fan art by Martechi.
All Models & Renders created by Martechi.

F...

▶ Play video
quick crown
keen zinc
#

I will forever be number 3

#

TO ME, MEN, FOR THE EMPIRE DEMOCRACY

sinful bay
rotund marten
#

I think I got allocated Type 4

rotund marten
hot meadow
honest acorn
#

lmfao

stone bridge
#

We knew about two of these already, but I'm very intrigued by the missile silo??

graceful bluff
#

Missile silo feels too long cooldown imo

stone bridge
#

Based on literally what?

graceful bluff
#

leaked footage of it?

honest acorn
#

These have got to be placeholder CDs

graceful bluff
#

It's basically just half an eagle rocket barrage

honest acorn
#

No way is the stinger on a 30 second CD

glacial light
#

30 seconds is wild

#

5 uses, less wild

barren iron
barren warren
#

until its in the game it isnt real

supple siren
#

Well if it only targets aircraft, is it that insane

stone bridge
#

I don't think we can judge based on leaks tbqh

honest acorn
#

Oh I missed the 5 uses part

#

That's a weird call in

#

Though I'd imagine the missile pod CD is shorter than it looks since support weapon CDs start when you drop it not when its used

supple siren
#

Yeah it feels like a weird use of a slot to.. Kind-of-Sort-of have a SEAF SAM Launcher

#

Though getting more fliers down the line'll be a deal I spose

glacial light
#

I wonder if 5 uses like 5 call ins total per mission

strange vine
#

Im p sure with the silo you can do stuff like call 1 down and keep em active on the field

#

Until you need them

glacial light
#

I'm guessing if you have multiple silos they all go when you use it

sinful bay
graceful bluff
dusty spruce
#

From the leaked videos, it seems each silo drops with its own laser designator, so I don't think you can mass launch them. If the designator doesn't aggro, I could see some use as a stealth way to destroy certain targets, but if it can't break fabs.... I dunno

#

but glad to see the commando finally get an official teaser like that, been seeing it pop up for a while now

#

excited to see how it'll be

#

could see it being great here, if the missiles are comparable to, say, the rocket pod missiles with two being enough to kill a tank

#

strength could be buffed since it'll probably be shorter ranged than the recoilless rifle

meager sandal
#

Guess the question is how many missiles each silo has?

quick crown
#

Shot in the dark 3~4

graceful bluff
#

from the videos, 1

keen zinc
#

Heavy machine gun...

#

Jump pack...

quick crown
#

ah i keep forgetting we have leaked videos

#

truely foolish of me

graceful bluff
#

I really hope it's a bug that it can't destroy fabs and they can on release

#

preferably also having 2-3 shots per silo

keen zinc
#

I don't really buy anything as concrete until the are officially added

quick crown
#

I don't till the first fix

#

otherwise mechs are too silly

#

Let me turn and shoot pain

sinful bay
#

Mechs in the end are less about being run n gun and more
Mobile weapon platforms

#

Which is fine! Hey, as that, it's great, still a bit frail, but great.
Just never summon it in the middle of a krumpin'

quick crown
#

let me shoot rockets without killing my call in is what i mean.

sinful bay
#

Just tell them to dodge smh /j

quick crown
#

You almost had me there lmao

#

I was like THIS IS A BIT RIGHT

dusty spruce
#

Also dunno how stratagems may end up being buffed by certain upgrades

honest acorn
#

tbf the causes of the missile bug are as far as I can tell deterministic and can be mitigated

dusty spruce
#

plenty of things in hd1 were iffy until they got the anti tank or 'more bigger damage' sample upgrade

sinful bay
#

lol of course, who in their right mind, in this day and age, at this time of year, at this time of day, at this side of the country, entirely localized on your kitchen
Would say "get gud" as a legit insult ?

quick crown
#

I'm always on guard just in case

#

Never dropping the sheild

sinful bay
#

I feel ya

honest acorn
#

me when people complain about anything in sekiro except 2ape

graceful bluff
#

Drop your shield

quick crown
honest acorn
#

2 ape complaining is valid because it dropped me to like 25 fps and that was horrid

quick crown
#

Mfw i drop my sheild

graceful bluff
#

Perfect

sinful bay
#

Drop your shield
Get the energy one

quick crown
#

omg thats right

#

I never tried that yet

#

I have been wanting to try the riot shield but the energyshield is just too good with randoms

sinful bay
#

I love riot shields so when I have the level I will grab it

hallow gorge
#

Riot is neat but the fact ragdolling makes you drop it sucks

quick crown
#

oh god thats right

quick plinth
#

my issue with the riot is that it forces you to use the select one primary slot

hallow gorge
#

I have no problem with the cause the defender kicks ass

#

Easily top 3 weapon in my opinion

dusty spruce
#

Yeah, could use some more one handed weapons, but the defender does work

sinful bay
#

oh right
no shotgun with riot shield...

#

sadness

hallow gorge
quick crown
#

oh who was it that found out

dusty spruce
#

shame no way to make the double freedom a sawn-off like the first game

quick crown
#

Turns out that the Breach shotgun has an alt fire mode

#

BURST FIRE

hallow gorge
#

I did

quick crown
#

YE

hallow gorge
#

Very silly

quick crown
#

Inb4 new challenge mode

sinful bay
#

Pistol only
go

#

Go on
Kill that Hulk with a pistol
like the founding fathers did

south temple
#

hopefully whatever primaries they add with the warbond are nice n heavy

#

now i am become kerberos, the destroyer of media literacy

tidal wing
#

dunno if this was posted but Britain is Defeated

honest acorn
#

why are there 3 last rainforests?

glacial light
#

I'd say a bit more than defeated if it's not on the map anymore

tidal wing
#

deleted

south temple
glacial light
honest acorn
#

Oh yea I hadn't thought of that

stone bridge
#

Australia being Sector 1 means we're the prime sector and thus the best

#

Canon

glacial light
#

Don't forget the land bridge between africa and south america of 2150

honest acorn
#

So, was Antarctica just removed or is it just not on the map?

glacial light
#

It melted

honest acorn
#

Also why did the north pole get nuked?

rotund marten
#

superstone park

tidal wing
#

considering a lot of wasteland zones also happen to line up with huge oil reserves I suspect those wastelands are not the result of nuking

rotund marten
#

I did see this on reddit and everyone appeared to miss that in favour of going "at last the British have been exterminated" for nine hundred posts straight, so there you go

dusty spruce
glacial light
#

Don't forget the great wall of democracy

stone bridge
glacial light
#

Obligatory more like superstoned park

stone bridge
#

don't make me HMG you

honest acorn
#

Pyramids of Super Earth and Great Wall of Democracy are also bangers

rotund marten
#

missed opportunity for Superhenge

south temple
sinful bay
#

One thing I noticed
Since Super Earth is 100% goverment owned and they don't have private companies
They force give jobs to their citizens, designate where they live (as seen in the trailers is all houses that look exact like one another), complete control and extreme propaganda
They are... technically more akin to socialism than Democracy?

south temple
#

yk they have big ass flags on it too

sinful bay
#

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

rotund marten
#

they clearly do have private companies

sinful bay
barren warren
#

its super fascism

rotund marten
#

the place we salvaged the mechs from is ran by one, and there are adverts for home defence breaker shotguns running in the ship

#

with corporate branding

dusty spruce
#

don't forget the eagle sweat

sinful bay
sinful bay
south temple
rotund marten
#

maybe, but given all the straight-up propaganda for Super Capitalism I suspect we're not Secretly Leninist

south temple
#

they wrap around to being Super Communist Earth

sinful bay
rotund marten
#

they seem to be pretty directly buying piles of guns from private manufacturers, considering the branding

strange vine
# sinful bay Oh i missed that, sorry

Theres a loading screen tip that says the stims we use are absolutely not addictive at all and also that study was paid for by the corp that produces it

undone veldt
#

So question about the current major order, what does activating the terminid control system actually mean?

undone veldt
#

Just liberating the planet?

south temple
rotund marten
#

where there would have been a "liberation progress" bar there is now an "activation progress" bar

#

so same thing, do ops there

south temple
#

but it triggers my kill response i’ve been manchurian candidate’d

sinful bay
#

Bugs don't have slapping theme like the bots

honest acorn
#

They do have that weird trilling alarm call

south temple
honest acorn
#

But its not as good

strange vine
south temple
#

i want a cursed clicky bug chant

sinful bay
strange vine
#

Its pheromone based

#

You cant smell it

keen zinc
sinful bay
sinful bay
south temple
#

lame

keen zinc
#

Every single hollow having dodge punishing tracking was bullshit

sinful bay
#

that is 100% bs i agree

south temple
#

it’s so hard going back to older souls games after elden ring’s hit boxes

#

i love being able to ash of war under swipes n shit

sinful bay
# south temple i love being able to ash of war under swipes n shit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZfxTS131N0 anyway have ptsd in mp3 form

1 hour of the ultimate bass boosted marching chant, with a progressively larger army of automatons marching to their chant from Helldivers 2! With bonus automaton voice lines and ambience!

Many thanks to all those who are helping interpret!
Here's a current consensus of the lyrics:
HEART - STEEL
WE - KILL
IRON - WILL
UNTO DAWN

HEART - STEEL...

▶ Play video
south temple
#

it’s going into the VTT playlist

sinful bay
#

I appreciate the added game sounds

south temple
#

true

#

can’t wait to run a helldiver mission but with big robots

sinful bay
#

the automatons are legit making me want to play necrons, damn communists

south temple
#

oh god you can’t do this to me

#

i see your vision

#

now i wanna spend moneyyyyyy :(

sinful bay
south temple
#

NOOOOOO

#

AUGHHH

sinful bay
#

Maybe if the necrons guns were a tad less oversized... but yes :3

south temple
#

chop up las guns idk

sinful bay
#

y e s

rich marlin
#

Question for you all,

Is the premium warbond time gated?

I believe I’ve seen some stuff that says otherwise but I just wanna check

quick plinth
#

no

#

they all stay

jolly mortar
#

No, all warbonds are around for good

rich marlin
#

Okay that’s pretty cool

jolly mortar
#

yeah

kindred lintel
#

yea everything scummy you can think of about battle passes isnt here

autumn plover
#

Well they still cost money

south temple
quick plinth
#

they made a statement somewhere to the effect of "fuck FOMO, fuck time gated shit"

jolly mortar
#

this is like the one time where I tolerate them costing money

quick plinth
autumn plover
#

And to a degree weaponize fomo to get you to buy each bond as they come out

quick plinth
#

though honestly I might spend money just to encourage them further

jolly mortar
#

but also, yeah I was like halfway through the free pass and had enough to get the paid one. if I played more daily I could have been grinding them all out.

quick plinth
autumn plover
quick plinth
#

its not even that grindy

kindred lintel
#

its not grindy

honest acorn
#

Yeah the super credit rate for free is pretty generous

autumn plover
#

Like not everyone has time or the patience to grind

kindred lintel
#

thats the thing, dont grind

honest acorn
#

It's like 20-30 hours of normal play (IE not intentionally grinding) for 1000+ SC

kindred lintel
#

just play and you get enough

jolly mortar
#

I mean, like CYAN's saying it doesn't even take that much intentional grinding.

quick plinth
#

I understand that (no I dont I'm a warthunder player)

jolly mortar
#

I didn't grind at all

kindred lintel
#

making it sound like playing the game is the grind, it should be fun

honest acorn
#

I'm actually not sure how to optimally grind them run 4s and hit every POI?

jolly mortar
#

I just, like. played the game regularly.

rich marlin
#

Trivials really

sinful bay
#

I just hope we don't have power creep

jolly mortar
#

and nothing on that paid pass is really so game-changing I'd say I'm 'missing out' by not getting it NOW.

honest acorn
#

The map is a lot bigger on 4s so I think it might be more time efficient

rich marlin
#

I think trivials are the fastest easiest grind

honest acorn
#

but idk

rich marlin
#

Bring two people (in case of friendship doors) visit every point, knock out the mission ez and boom

quick crown
honest acorn
jolly mortar
#

yeah

#

and even then

honest acorn
#

The primaries are all fine but sort of mid

quick plinth
jolly mortar
#

the redeemer on single-shot mode is perfectly serviceable

quick crown
#

Scout armor boots on ground trivial and don't even finish the mission and you can get lik 200 in an hour

jolly mortar
#

or. whatever the machine pistol is called

quick plinth
#

primaries are meant to be mid by design, stratagem weapons are meant to to be where the real power lies

jolly mortar
#

you can fire off rounds on single-shot real damn quick

autumn plover
jolly mortar
#

I guess your experience is your experience, but I play literally once every two to three days lately and I'm 7 pages deep into the free pass, and I've bought the paid one basically for free with earned credits, and I don't feel like I've missed anything.

#

it'll be there if I wanna deliberately progress for it over time but, like, the shit I already have is still fun as hell and useful in a fight.

rotund marten
#

I have been putting a lot of time into this game, but I already have the current premium bond and enough SCs for two more stockpiled and I have never intentionally gone SC hunting

fringe quiver
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Playing the game is definitely a grind

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Whether or not it's fun is if you enjoy grinding

honest acorn
jolly mortar
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fair, yeah

barren warren
#

is it a grind if its just gameplay

honest acorn
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The rest are fine but don't really bring anything as unique imo

jolly mortar
fringe quiver
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Ye cause arguably you do have to play in a somewhat specific way, depending on what you're grinding for

barren warren
#

Do you?

rich marlin
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And while I do wish we lived in a world where devs don’t need money, Helldivers does need to at least make a bit of money so they can keep the servers lights on and marginally not on fire so it’s probably the least toxic battlepassish system I’ve encountered

jolly mortar
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you really don't, though

honest acorn
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Also yeah helldivers is not a grind normally

fringe quiver
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Ye, you can't just ignore all objectives I don't think

honest acorn
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Grinding is a pretty specific term

jolly mortar
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yeah i feel like you're maybe misusing the term grinding

autumn plover
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I mean sure. But ultimately any sorta pass charging money ultimately to some degree is predating on fomo. Because I'm assuming every bond is not gonna remain available to unlock access to forever. Like once you have the bond you have it though which is nice.

fringe quiver
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But maybe you can, in which case tell me plz

kindred lintel
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All bonds will remain, forever

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As stated by them

honest acorn
quick plinth
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which feels like a breath of fresh air

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considering time gated battlepasses have become the normal

ripe iron
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haveing come from games like warthunder or world of warships, i greatly prefer this "grind" to theirs

rich marlin
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Do the devs have any official merch beyond the game?

honest acorn
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Yeah I was pleasantly surprised by the monetization since there was a scare about the superstore on release

quick plinth
fringe quiver
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Afaik none of the stuff is time-gated

cobalt patrol
south temple
autumn plover
south temple
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plus being able to get the SC in a decent amount of time is nice

rich marlin
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I’d like to have some Helldiver stuff and still support the devs as I don’t really need to purchase SC.

honest acorn
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There was some grind stuff in Helldivers but mortar grinding for medals/XP is mostly gone now

rotund marten
quick plinth
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the supercommando suit is indeed nice

rich marlin
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I really want a model of the ship ngl, that’s my biggest want. Those ships look so cool

graceful bluff
kindred lintel
fringe quiver
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However I will say that like

sinful bay
#

All I want is the tile of 'dead cadet'

honest acorn
jolly mortar
ripe iron
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as of now i'd bet the devs are doing pretty well as far as liquidity is concerned, the game is far more popular than they expected

jolly mortar
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really depends what their budget for dev was

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but even then

rich marlin
jolly mortar
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yeah, the game did gangbusters

quick plinth
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I need to create a business (a group of ferrets is called a business)

rich marlin
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Off to find the STL!

quick plinth
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the game did so much better than they probably ever expected

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considering their previous entry was relatively niche

rich marlin
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Thank you CYAN

sinful bay
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of course the warhammer fan was the one to give the stl file /j

autumn plover
autumn plover
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Fair enough

dusty spruce
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I think someone also made a build guide for a lego super destroyer

velvet pollen
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huh. thats weird. im sure its nothing to worry about

south temple
fringe quiver
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Actually question

fringe quiver
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Are they called battle passes in HD2?

kindred lintel
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warbonds

quick plinth
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warbonds

rich marlin
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You know, I guess I should expected the game that is so heavy on satire to have devs that are pretty cool but like… damn

south temple
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Warbonds

fringe quiver
#

Yeah I wonder if like

rich marlin
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That’s really cool

honest acorn
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The most FOMO stuff in HD2 is the super store but at least rn stuff cycles through minimum weekly so its really not bad

jolly mortar
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yeah, see, I can agree with that much

quick plinth
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yeah

jolly mortar
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I at least wish there was no cycle

quick plinth
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a cycling store is a FOMO tactic

honest acorn
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yeah I'd prefer that

jolly mortar
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just give me one bigass catalog

barren iron
velvet pollen
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HD2's monetization feels a lot like meeting the bare minimum of a contract you dont particularly agree with lol

honest acorn
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But at least we're not in Fortnite-hell "buy it now when its gone its gone f o r e v e r"

graceful bluff
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I do kinda like the catalog in the way that the armors don't matter that much, and it gives people a reason to try something new every couple of days

south temple
jolly mortar
dusty spruce
jolly mortar
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I mean, I guess? I didn't play any of their previous games though, and this feels like a very marked difference.

velvet pollen
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hd1s monetization was a lot different/worse

honest acorn
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HD2 monetizing is unironically the fairest monetization they'd had imo

velvet pollen
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dlcs for everything

jolly mortar
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so it feels like something must have changed.

dusty spruce
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Oh I'm not gonna complain, I put this sorta in the category as me buying the stuff for DRG. Some cash to help keep the development ongoing

honest acorn
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1 honestly sucked with the jillion 2-5$ dlcs for like 4 pieces of gear

jolly mortar
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because there's zero chance Sony would tell a studio 'oh yeah you should monetize less'

rich marlin
#

It’s honestly the lowest effort part of Helldivers

“Fuck it, put a few armors in a small screen and have em rotate for the premium money”

“And let SC be collectible in missions”

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Nothing flashy, no big sales signs, just a few fake reviews

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Which are IC satire

honest acorn
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You can tell that it wasn't a huge priority because there were significant bugs with super credits on release

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Since generally, buggy games have near-flawless premium stores haha

jolly mortar
#

darktide i mean what

dusty spruce
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Oh yeah, nice to see somethign with that issue being reversed

quick plinth
jolly mortar
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it did

honest acorn
sinful bay
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Fatshark games you need to wait 1~2 years after release to play properly

jolly mortar
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it's just the most recent example I think of

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because that premium store launched flawless

dusty spruce
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I think Darktide sticks out because of some noticeable gaffs there. "Immeasurably complex" is never gonna go away

sinful bay
jolly mortar
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anyways it's the mark of a good game that just talking about it makes me want to boot HD2 up

quick plinth
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I wish there's a ghillie in the future of HD2 but I feel like something like that is beyoned the scope of the average helldiver

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considering their "training" is just a filter

barren iron
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myyyy hot take is that they are very well trained

south temple
graceful bluff
dusty spruce
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they are supposed to be taken out of normal SEAF, so it's not entirely untrained, but the Helldivers are still basically a 'lets throw bodies at the the killbots' method

graceful bluff
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decreases agro from enemies, increases agro from friendlies :v

south temple
jolly mortar
barren iron
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I think a helldivers is a little below an ODST

graceful bluff
quick plinth
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helldivers are just numbers

south temple
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prolly below odst yeah but not grunt level

glacial light
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We got the good cardboard for our mech armor

quick plinth
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considering how many we go through and how many are on ice

graceful bluff
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They used to be more well trained in helldivers 1 where they were taken from SEAF forces

honest acorn
graceful bluff
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nowadays they just need numbers

honest acorn
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Well "good" as in in shape, motivated, and able to handle weapons

strange vine
south temple
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and individual kill count wise we kill a fuck ton for at max average 25 people

barren iron
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helldivers fire their guns amazingly, have pretty good stamina considering their armor, know how to get up and down efficiently, and have AMAZING throwing arms (I'm sure baseball is a mandatory sport for this reason)

quick plinth
south temple
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soon

fringe quiver
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Hmm

honest acorn
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The dozer armor is pretty good

barren warren
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yeah id see it more that every able-bodied citizen of Super Earth is soldier-level or bust

honest acorn
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I don't have it but I played with someone who did and its actually hella tough

sinful bay
# south temple soon

Why do you think I want the riot shield so bad even without a 1 handed shotgun?

autumn plover
fringe quiver
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Actually if the society is super brainwashed, you could theoretically make super soldiers out of normal people by having their standards of life be super high

jolly mortar
fringe quiver
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"Perfect health is patriotic" or w/e

south temple
#

BREAKER RIOT SHIELD

sinful bay
glacial light
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I see a lot of activity <@&1206091872716595200> we need more diving on the frontlines in activity 2

honest acorn
south temple
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WE CALL THIS A DIFFICULTY TWEAK RAHHHHHHHH

dusty spruce
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There is indication of other training. Things like Ranger Helldivers being a separate thing with separate training though it's no longer standard training as most get turned into nice meatbags

south temple
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yeah the springfield lmao

quick plinth
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everyone gets a pre ww1 boltaction

south temple
sinful bay
quick plinth
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its the M1903

barren iron
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yeah it's a scifi version of the springfield

quick plinth
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or the M1911

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Im not sure