#Helldivers 2: For Managed Democracy!
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I have but only through "Alright just gotta line up-" faceplanted via charger
ah that is fair
they can yeah, I think I've just been lucky with the personal shield mostly
Fair
I don’t have the personal shield so that’s probably apart of the issue
Fire builds get way safer with it
I gotta do more heavy armor + flamer + shield
It's funny how I went from "personal shield is goated vs bots but I don't need it for bugs" to the exact opposite
Getting hit with a charger is always so funny
Because before you even know what happened the entire screen blurs and you’re launched 50 feet away
and then you explode
And then yah you die violently
"SWEET LIBERTY MY LE-"
It’s funny how in general how much the bugs were underestimated Vs the bots
Everyone was talking about mavlevalon when Draupnir was the real villain
Yah but it’s also the only bug planet I can name off the top of my head
Erata Prime is the eternal bug war planet imo
It's been a front for literally the entire time and hasn't budged an inch
And its a horrible extreme heat planet
What does extreme heat do actually?
Less stamina and lasers overheat faster
As a running and scythe enjoyer I hate it so much
SIMPLY APPLY FLAMETHROWER
Oh that sucks
Stamina never feels like enough during a fight
Especially with how much I dive
I've realized heavy armor does really well against bots infantry and rockets so unless you're actively drawing attention to tank then shield is optional for bots compares to bugs where it can be life and death whether your shield is charged
personally Meridia is my favorite
I use shield again cause heavy armor is still not where I want it to be
Yeah now that armor works on bots I don't need it so much but being slow immune while your shield is up is a literal lifesaver
The desert planets are harsh. Against bugs is one thing, but Ustotu (bot desert planet) was hell for me. The open sightlines with little cover on the sandier parts got me shredded by Devastator and tank fire
Yah, getting bots in a funnel is so helpful
Really stops the harassment fire and tanks
personally i just can’t get enough of the jungle planets. the foliage, the atmosphere, hell even just the extra sound effects. it’s all so great.
Fenrir is nice tho
Honestly I have a problem with any planet with fog
I focused on it a bit when it was falling a while back
Enemies are already kinda hard to tell when they’re dead
But I’ve wasted so much ammo shooting at dead enemies in fog
I do love jungle being thick and blocking line of sight to make engagements more close quarters until you blow up a ton of trees with a stratagem to open up a wide open corridor for exchanging fire. That simple short to long range shift is like really easily missed but changes up the game in a nice way
It adds environmental environmentalism I like
Jungle planets are honestly so nice just for the ability to occasionally sneak past enemies
It’s so much easier with all the line of sight blockers
I just wish the smallest shrub in existence didn't totally block my arc thrower shots that have no problem arcing through 18 chargers to zap my teammate 50m further, but I guess all these leaves are made of Super Rubber™
It's cause the plants are made of conductive metal and form a Faraday cage /s
Also I’m about to start using it, how does the auto canon preform against armor?
bug or bot
Bug
It's meh
autocannon vs. charger is difficult, doesn't yellow leg it like rockets
It only has medium armour pen, but it's on the high end and has high damage
Credible vs chargers if you can hit the tail bulb, and awkward vs bile titans in general
good against bots though, especially hulk
You need to hit weak points vs heavies
Ah IC
twoshots them to the eye slit
It'd excellent against bots
yeah it works awesome on bots
Imo it's really good against bugs too
it does chop up hive guards and brood commanders really well
And I've been seeing more of those lately
One of the best weapons into either Spewer variant
oh yeah that too
oh true
Is there a way to see if a map is going to be a "bile map" before starting it?
Oh so it’s great for anything sans charger and bile titans essentially?
laser cannon is my goto for bugs but it does struggle vs. bile spewers
That’s not too bad
better matchup vs. chargers though, they have pretty similar kill conditions on charger butts but does not need to reload
I think if I run auto cannon on bugs I’ll probably just wanna take some other stuff for bile titans
Unfortunately I don’t have a lot for that yet
sometimes i run flamethrower as an anti-charger specialist weapon since you can cook the leg off with about half a magazine
There's just not that many options for bile titans
Only EATs so far really
though that leaves me very vulnerable vs. titans
EATs RR, Railgun
then again - bile titans are basically stratagem food anyway
That's kind of it outside of strats
Yah but I’m still lacking some obvious stuff like the orbital railcannon
Oh I was referring to strats for bile titans
so i don't feel that bad not prepping for them weapons wise
Yeah I bring Airstrike + 500kg so I've got 5 chances to kill a Bile
I've had some success with using the Patriot's rockets on Biles, but I haven't seriously tested it
So take that with a big ol' grain of salt
And they're prolly more efficient to use on other things
mech rockets are ~ equal to an EAT
so it wouldn't surprise me
face-blasting biles with EATs works pretty well
2 rockets to the head *usually kills a titan
It's 1-3 in my expedrience
1 if you get the perfect mouth shot whil;e it's vomiting and they just explode
it's a life or death situation though. if it gets the barf off the mech is toast
Yeah I find its better to just rocket it normally
just keep lobbing rockets at its skull and things will probably be fine
also Rom while in the shuttle lmao
Yeah, I wouldn't call in a mech to go Bile hunting, but if one shows up while I'm in one I'm emptying the pod till it stops moving
Rail gun is still good against biles if on unsafe
And yet only one accidental! Do not stare into the aperture, folks!
🌤️
🔍
❗
💥
I'm fairly sure the Railgun can still one shot Biles to the jaw webbing but you need high charge
Which makes the shot window extremely precise
I’ve been going back to my pre-20 option and running the EAT again for anti-armor, it seems to work okay for Biles on 8
Reminds me of the time one of my friends was bleeding out and ran straight into my face screaming "Stim me!" while I was charging an unsafe railgun at the hulk behind him
Miraculously, I managed to:
- Not explode
- Not take his head off
- One-shot the hulk in the eye
And 4. Stim him
"Stim me!"
"why not just shoot you, it's gives you all your health back"
This was all in the span of like half a second, and I suspect I will not be topping that for quite some time lmao
This is how you should consistently move in order to move faster and more optimally.
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<@&1206091872716595200> anyone for diving in about ~10?
sure, what difficulty?
6+, usually
i've yet to make my way to 6
difficulty 7 is like right on where it starts to get overwhelming for me, i tend to play around difficulty 5 casualy
sure thing

That's okay, you don't need a difficulty unlocked to play it if someone else sets it in their lobby
Also I'm ready to roll, will be in Activity 1
yeah same here
AND I LOST THEM
steam maitenance
AAAAAAAAARGGGHHHHHHHH
had a real keystone cops ass time of it tonight
we were at the extraction point and we kept getting bugfucked
we lost like 12 mans there, it was ridiculous
we got down to no mans left, one guy falling from the sky, and nothing else but corpses
two of us got on mic to start shouting at him to get on the dropship and just GO
rip samples but we're better off without you anyway
I think I'm kinda mid at this game
I'm so much better at deep rock
but this is new so here I am
the harder difficulties are like really hard
I'm getting my ass bounced around on 4
sometimes it do be that way
I'm sure I'll get my buglegs eventually
but I haven't been able to play very consistently
FWIW I feel like 4’s difficulty swings wildly from easy to OMGWTFBBQ
that's worth a lot
heck it, <@&1206091872716595200> , I need medals and I ain't gonna get that in trivial
This game also has a slightly rough start as you develop the right techniques and unlock equipment.
You'll eventually develop a playstyle that is right for you
that and it is easy at any difficulty to get into a chaos spiral
yo!
Wanna join us on diff 6
if you wanna join me, I'll be hanging in HORUS chat
What, this personal? /j
I ain't going above Hard til like level 30
That's a ton of levels, you don't need to go that high if you have a decent squad
looks at me running diff 7s
I find it very stressful and just don't want to til I have a lot more equipment
in fairness DRG also has the old environmental instakills
although they did nerf the yoinky bois
Eh, it's easier if you just accept the chaos lmao
The play style bit is really key
I kept trying to force myself to use recoilless or railgun, but I’ve seen vastly more success ultimately using grenade launcher and choosing different anti armor, for example
EATs my beloved
I am trying to get my friends to join the cult of EAT
literally one to two people bring it and heavies don't trouble you as much
it also leaves a backpack slot empty and still frees you to use any other stratagem weapon of your choice
bu-but my infinite ammo laser beam
Laser Canon is very nice now that they've buffed it
I'll agree
hitting the vents on bot heavies / turrets is nice with it it
however you can still bring eats, laser cannon and a shield / dog backpack
that's more than enough to deal with basically anything while still leaving you a forth slot for reds or greens
though its probably more than what most people bring regarding blues
well yeah most people only bring 1 blue
I guess the real trick would be to supply 2 guys with 1 normal blue and 2 EATs
or two, if its a backpackless with a backpack. eg. grenade launcher, jump pack
really wanna be doing that
I need another 800 supercredits though
since you can just run in, under supporting fire of your friends, and start clearing the nest
you mean requisition slips, the non prem currency?
supercredits are the prem currency
I thought you got the nade launcher from the supercredit war bond thing
the automatic grenade launcher is a stratagem
ohhh ok then I just need like 10k req slips
since I have neither
what's your primary gun here then
My go to bug loadout has settled into rover, railcannon, grenade launcher and EAT with breaker or liberator
I find that I end up quite self sufficient!
on bugs I usually take either the punisher, breaker or breaker spray n pray (since the buff its basically like prenerf breaker in regards to horde clear)
I'm getting breaker next
Against bots I swap rover for shield backpack, and if someone else isn’t bringing orbital laser I swap railcannon for orbital laser.
it's gonna whip sack
not a huge fan of scrambling to each new gear priority as they unlock cause I'm not always sure what's good but this time I Know
I think the Defender is an underrated choice against both bugs and bots
Having really effective hipfire is shockingly good for avoiding normally frustrating situations
It does depend on your weapon, but if you have good burst on your Support for anti-Stalker firepower you can skip out on the meatier primaries
That's the main reason to run the Breaker and contemporaries
Defender is a very solid option and probably my current weapon of choice vs bots
The defender is really nice since it 2 shots hunters
but I've found it difficult to use against bots (I'm on controller so my aim isn't what it could be)
*not me
lmao
This is in my opinion, the best loadout for playing a very low key guerilla tactics style game against the Automatons on Helldive Difficulty.
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Greetings Helldivers!
In this first video of the Helldiver's Handbook, we're taking an in-depth look at the latest addition to our arsenal - the Exo-45 Patriot Mech!
We'll being going through some of the basics of the mech before delving into its combat potential, and then taking a very detailed look at just how durable our mech actually is an...
I find patiently waiting is super inefficient
but on the other hand
just follow the host
Helldiver acting up made me get off and go to bed
am sad
how dare this game make me be responsible
I just had the most insane randoms experience ever
no chat
no voice coms
but perfect understanding and cooperation at like difficulty 7 bots

we all mostly split off, silently doing bases via stratagems and if not loudly, once someone draws the bot drop
since there can only really be one botdrop outside of geolocial survey objectives
it can't if your unwillingness to go to bed is strong enough
however, upon trying out the spear some more, I feel like it's lockon should be more reliable than me simply taking a different stratagem and eyeballing it
in most planetary conditions it's range is either severly reduced to non existing, sure in rare cases it's a godweapon, killing anything from as far as it can lock
but as it currently stands it doesnt feel that great to bring when more often than not, terrain, the wather (fog, spores, ect) work against you
which is annoying, because otherwise I love it
I’ve tried it and felt severely restricted as to what I can kill with it. Especially vs bots not being able to lock onto devastators is a big thing. For bugs it’s not as bad but bugs tend to have the spores.
I would honestly rather not be able to lock onto devs
if I could I would do it constantly then have no ammo for the hulks and tanks 💀
what you lose in anti medium you gain greatly in anti heavy
also
being able to just, nuke fabricators from a distance without using eagles or orbitals is nice
not so much on draupnir considering the god damn fog
or most other bot planets it seems (dust, foliage, ect)
Yeah, if it was more consistent, maybe if it had an optical/laser guidance, it would be the best weapon in the game
<@&1206091872716595200> anyone available to dive for a bit?
The what?
one of the leaks|| is the M202 Flash (not literally)||
||a quad-barreled rocket launcher||
Helldivers 2 is killing it with new content! Loads of new weapons, armour and vehicles are coming to the game! In this video let's take a look at some of the more insane weapons coming soon!
0:00 New Weapons Look INSANE!
0:40 Stratagem Problems 😂
1:07 Mech Tech! How to Block Chargers!
1:43 Explosive Crossbow
2:16 Grenade Pistol WTF!
2:51 Quasar...
Fornicate it, I'll see if it is having a better time
Ahh, we had that in game 1 too
i am
and hades appears to be too\
do you still have a spot?
is there anything im missing about not just getting space rocked on fenrir
never stop running
you have about 0.3 seconds to dive if it suddenly gets bright
New patch
Less titans and chargers on high diff for bugs
More of other enemy types to compensate
Recoilles and EAT should 1 hit chargers
Grenade launcher stay winning
also known as Autocannon Buff 😄
if they did, it'd be a tiny bit too good imo, the current one rocket strip leg and main weapon burst is fine
any patch notes ?
Good news: it literally does now
One to the head and done
real shit?
Good day citizens of Super Earth. A new patch to aid you in your efforts is coming in. May Super Earth give you courage Overview Today's patch is dealing with the spawn rate of heavily armored Terminid enemies as well as the possible play against them. It also contains some fixes to UI elements and crash fixes. Balancing Enemies: The amount of h...
notez
thats exactly why I said it lel
and yeah, just did a mission with @cobalt patrol as my loader
"should" as in "the patchnotes says it does, so it should do that"
rather than like, wishful thinking
the other day i killed a charger with a pod carrying my EATs so that was already true 
oooh i see
and yeah I agree
3 kills per call in
it was the only charger there so i was just kinda standing therel ike 'damn what do i do now'
cry that it wasn't a supply pod?
real
real
'We are not changing anything regarding the Charger’s legs, we are however lowering the health of the Charger’s head. It should now be at a point where a well placed shot from a Recoilless Rifle or EAT-17 instantly kills a charger.'
OwO
it was very effective
thats a great change tbh
even if I think it might make them less tanky
the head isnt an easy target as the charger is barrelling toward you
the legs are arguably easier but still iffy
however I think this'll make chargers more fair
considering how many of them can be present some times
'"Electronic Countermeasures" operation modifier, which had a chance of giving you a random stratagem instead of the one you input, has been removed in order to be reworked, and will be reintroduced in a future iteration. We found that this modifier wasn’t communicated clearly enough and overall caused more frustration than excitement with the way it was currently implemented. This change was made in 1.000.100 but was unintentionally omitted from the patch notes.'
Didn't knew about that
leg meta
THIS IS AN OFFICIAL SUPER EARTH PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT. Your undivided attention is mandatory.
- Biologist research into the dreaded Terminid Charger has revealed new insights into the workings of their ill-functioning brains. Particularly of note is their ability to be misdirected by certain pheromones, which are being used to lead Chargers off the front lines Helldivers are deploying in
- Notes suggest Bile Titans may also be affected by this distraction measure
- Additionally, Super Earth Research Corps has devised a new mixture for anti-tank weapons capable of destroying their heads in one shot
- Intelligence has cracked the codes used for Automaton electronic jamming systems and have deployed ECCM measures, and successfully neutralized the risk of randomized stratagems. This was done a week ago but was redacted for security reasons
- Automaton infiltration into Tien Kwan's exosuit production facilities has resulted in sabotaged ordnance having the chance to detonate inside the suit if fired while rotating. This will be remedied as soon as all the affected rockets has been shipped off to Super Destroyers galaxy-wide. Issue ongoing
Apparently some fucks have bots posting on the comments to keep the game 'neutral' and 'don't add woke stuff'
4chan still exists
but sad
tho, in a happy note
I discovered yesterday that, indeed, the bots speak english ,and their chanting goes hard
i honestly dont think thats english
but rather the power of the human brain to recognise words where there might not really be any
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5KOgaE3FG4 i bet to differ, when you listen without the chaos around you can hear clear english
The socialist automaton marching chant from Helldivers 2!
Many thanks to all those who are helping interpret!
Here's a current consensus of the lyrics:
HEART - STEEL
WE - KILL
IRON - WILL
UNTO DAWN
HEART - STEEL
WE - KILL
IRON - WILL
UNTO DAWN
CYBERSTAN
CAN'T KEEP HER DOWN
WE COUNT DOWN
GO TO WAR!
CYBERSTAN
CAN'T KEEP HER DOWN
WE COUNT DOW...
expecially the "until down" part where the voice almost sounds human
considering literally everyone has a different idea of what they say
I am inclined to think it just sounds like english
Really? Until now I just saw people saying is the same thing
like, untill I saw a video
like that one
assigning words to ehat they were saying
I couldnt for the life of me figure out what it might even be
but now thats the only interpretation my brain accepts no matter how much I listen to it
like how you can mishear lyrics to a song and then after looking it up you hear the song correctly
Fair, but i argue some parts are more clear than others, specially the
'CYBERSTAN
CAN'T KEEP HER DOWN
WE COUNT DOWN
GO TO WAR! '
part
Which is when the robotic voice sounds the most human
why would it be "her" though?
lore says the reason the bots are doing what they are is because they are marching to cyberstain to liberate their creator, being a her, as far as i recall
Because HD1 cyborgs got slaved etc etc
motherland etc etc
also that
hm
Tho someone should ask the devs otherwise it will become a SMT3-Nocturne situation
where the boss theme for years people though it said "Another god rejected" and then-
It was proven it was just random english babble made with an text-to-speech voice
<@&1206091872716595200> anyone want to get a second lobby going?
sure thing
I can, in about half an hour
#7613-6458

New patch today
RR and EATs are now one shot to the head for chargers
Charger head hp decreased
@glacial light WE were just playing with that, it's great
very noticable on the chargers
Recoil with a reloader kicks arse
Yeah, I think if you run an optimal gunner/loader setup you get serious work done
Damn time to switch to RR from the auto cannon now
||Looks like chemical warfare is back on the menu||
I wonder what the bonus for that will be
Probably some form of damage resist/immunity against the relevant type? ||Gas Strikes and whatever gets added alongside||
@barren iron your prediction came true
||MY OWN SPECIAL BREW… WOULD YOU LIKE TO TRY SOME?||
Me who fight mostly bots:
GIVE ME AN EMP WEAPON ALREADY C'MON.
Give me this
Oh, the new patch made Chargers one shottable with the EAT and Recoiless in the head.
ye
It's really nice actually
Recoilless gunner/loader teams are very real into bugs now
And they were already good
Kind of a shame the spawn rates went down since I was enjoying the bugs actually having a ton of bulk, but at least there's more grenade fodder now
knowing our luck all the heavy unit spawns are now Hunter packs
28 brood commanders
so many hunters...
More warriors or Hive guards would actually be enjoyable
Laser drone my beloved, don't melt yourself but you have a lot of work to do
The little drone that could...
atleast hive guards have some fun in trying to shoot between the gaps
I actually like fighting Brood Commanders because the slugger pops their head off in a satisfying manner
Flamethrower too melts heads
and i think the Machine GUn and Stalwart just got a lot better with the increase in fodder.
I can't be trusted with a flamer
I can! I very r arely murder teamates with it.
Now, high explosives? do not give me those
I'm magnetically attracted to them.
I became Stalwart pilled yesterday
It's
So fun
But I do understand that, I kinda need a railgun/GL if I gonna play something higher than normal, otherwise I will need to do backflips to deal with some enemies
Now
Can I be trusted with a GL? No
Will I use it anyway? Yes.
Why?
"Oh, they're goin' ta have to glue you back together... IN HELL!"
And because I got a bit frustrated yesterday that I needed a certain kind of weapon to destroy the anti-air turrents to destory those... red parts behind it.
And I just could not call stratagems at the time
So, in exactly one(1) update the recoilless rifle became my favourite weapon in the game
You think in universe helldivers is a copyrighted term?
Like if a corporation uses it without buying the rights super earth will sue the fuck out of them?
Probably
Tho I do wonder, does super earth even have private corporations? It seems everything is goverment owned.
There’s references to private corporations that produce stims in the loading screen
There’s the bit of stims having no long term side effects (study was paid for by a pharmacy company and then their slogan)
there's also an advert for a gun company
yeah the Mechs are produced by Morgunson Arsenal
if super earth didn't have a corrupt military induistrial complex it wouldn't be a good satire
There’s also different corp names that show up on the terminals during missions
Speaking of diegetic lore details, is there a translation for what’s posted on the illegal transmission towers during automaton missions?
I ran out of ammo for my AMR and had to embarressingly wait like 30 seconds to drop another one just to kill one of these in a rando lobby yesterday
I really think for the AA guns and Mortars you should be allowed to kill em with small arms fire. At least within a certain range at least
BUT i didn't try grenades that might have worked too
I played myself
Grenades didn't owrk for me
Also, I wish the grenade descriptions gave a better... descriptions before buying them with the medals
Tell me the strat with jump pack stalwart
it's so fun
And with the light armor medic? As long as you stim yourself in time, you are almost immortal
Seconding this
Ok big question, why is the impact grenade icon like 240p
Hold R, click M2 to put at MAXIMUM SPEED the Stewmaker
Jump pack to abuse cover and stealth, that way the enemies will get their backs exposed more often
MAJOR ORDER: Activate the Terminid Control System, Helldivers!
EYES UP, WE GOT FAST MOVERS
WARM IT UP
EVERYTHING YOU GOT
MY STALWART IS ALREADY AT MAXIMUM SPEED, COMMANDER
Come on you apes, you wanna live forever?!
From the movie Starship Troopers.
(Oh and Rate 5 stars, thank you very much.)
i cant wait to see how this goes wrong
also,
you
You gorgeous Amko
I became JetStawpilled
Give more tips
Impact Grenades are your friend, and I suggest the punisher or slugger primary
The knockback and single shot damage is useful
Oh may I ask why not the breaker?
I personally run the revolver for secondary to shoot hive guards
Doesn't kick enemies back like the pumps do
They can send a Brood Commander backwards 10 feet
This gives you space for shmovement
The slugger also pens medium
I like the slugger but I always struggle with bugs just because of its rate of fire, I like pairing it with the auto cannon for medium and above bugs
I am working towards grabbing a slugger
That is why the stalwart pairs with it so well
The stalwart is your primary, it handles all common targets
Your primary is your "oh shit"
So something with oomph is important
I like the punisher for it's kick and crowd control
The slugger is great but precise
I use the senator for precision shots
WE'VE GOT HOSTILES
10-4
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We got Helldivers space shanties
And yeah the jetpack really need some getting used to
I hate how much AI art is being used in the helldivers community
Tik tok said it's Ai generated
Idk how they determine that whether community labeled or something
I just hate how Ai could've been something truly interesting and new, all those early outputs that looked like robot dreams
Ope reading comments voice was ai generated
but it's all fueled by venture capital for sake profit so none of it can be truly ethically sourced
This is why we fight automatons
As someone who has created a makeshift image ai, its basically the only way to do it
(school project)
@quick plinth friend bequest? 
It says you not accepting friend requests
I've had that issue yesterday
Someone sent me one and I couldn't accept no matter how many times I pressed accept
oh no its just probably my privacy settings
so turns out the "kill devastators" objective means specifically normal devastators not heavy or rocket
so my attempt at doing it quickly by dropping into a 9, triggering a bot drop or two and lasering them didn't work because all of them were upgraded versions
yea i think 4-6 has a lot more regular ones
||They fly now || 😩
Wait what
yeah, I did a 6 blitz and got like two
I think they mean personal order
Ohhh
Cuz I know there is a mission specifically for destroying devastators and it's always been heavy devs for me
I was only looking at spoilers on the subreddit but i gotta be real
This is so cool
I would love to make one of these unironically
Also it would be fun for a cosplay too
That would be really sick
You could even use it while moving like arrow keys i'm guessing
nah, my daily is Destroy 15 Devastators
and presumably everyone elses' daily too
I think it is if you’re up to date
I’ve still got Anti-Personnel Mines and kill Hunters since I didn’t play much the last two days
Not certain if having two is intended or not
Because it doesn’t wanna let me scroll
I had 3 at once yesterday
Anti personnel mines one was painful
Speaking of painful who wants to <@&1206091872716595200> play?
I got the day off so i'm ready to no life
Getting a lot of use out of this on the reddit
Looks like we're finally activating the terminid control system
huntertide....
https://i.imgur.com/gjOu5oS.mp4
The existence of the TCS is further proof of [redacted for anti-democratic statements]
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Those are Pouncers
I hope we get more hordes of hunters and warriors and pouncers
Gosh I wanna see what that looks like on Helldive
oh I'm excited to use the arc thrower on these larger hordes of chaff
Stalwart gaming
I didn't see the patch notes posted here so here they are
Glad that chargers are easier to handle
they are easier to handle, and less frequent
eats and recoiless and pretty comparable imo
eats are probably better
eats for range and just being able to throw them whenever, recoilless for consistency imo
yea the eats have significantly lower dropoff at range
arc thrower users are my op
i need to try it again now that charger head hp is reduced
should take the number of hits to a little lower
Oh yeah that'd probably help it a lot
I HATE THE ARC THROWER
GRAHHHH
KICK ALL ARC THROWER USERS
(this is a joke)
but fr dont shoot the arc thrower near teammates
also it's a cone so aim higher to avoid hitting the sides more
whenever i use it someone literally dives in front of me, the person who has been shooting it forever, and gets mad at me for using it\
Arc thrower users just need their space
in all cases where I've been killed by someone using an arc thrower
it has been their fault
I like to hear the krrr-zot krrr-zot krrr-zot krrr-zot from a good 50-100 meters over a sand dune ideally :p
with the new eat/recoilless buff
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yeah but I haven't seen them
Only at specific side objectives like Stalkers
It's a really phenomenal gun it just needs allies who don't run in front of you and enough awareness to not shoot at at targets within ~5-10 meters of your people
Oh hell yah EATs are even better now for chargers
that last part is the problem
I have even been killed at way longer ranges than is reasonable for them to even assume
there was a bile titan maybe 20-30 meters away
and it was jumping to me
very strange
this guy has the arc thrower and guard dog
he is a machine who consumes reinforcements and produces failed missions...
go forth and roam for secondaries my friend
(referring to that guy, who I want hard cover between me and them)
yes
machine gun feels great in the current game state, even if they didn't change the gun at all lmao
more chaff, less heavy is a buff to the machinegun
mg is a gun I didn't really respect until I went back to it after using a bunch of other specials
Same as the AMR
machine gun / rover / EATs / autocannon turret felt great
on the newest bug mission
I am a rover hater
yeah, you come into the game "oh i get this at the start, it must be shit" and then you replace it with exciting stuff and never bother looking back at just how solid it is
rover my beloved
I'm split on the laserdog, it kills great and is wonderful for loud assaults, but I don't like how its the Patrol Waker 9001 and it gets hard to avoid FF when there's more than one of them
i wish we could stow it
for bugs it’s funny
Yeah I'd love a safety for it
iirc just the other day my ship technician dialogue rolled something about her hearing a rumour that some terminids were adapting to termicide during testing
Just a silly dissident rumour of course
Arc thrower, guard dog, cluster bomb, mortar sentry
The perfect combination to be a walking friendly fire machine
i am sure that the terminid menace will be controlled once and for all once the TCS is complete
thats the tryhard friendly fire loadout. Casuals still slot the 380 in there
these stupid fucking dissidents don't think the Terminid Control System can control the Terminids, like, they wouldn't have named it that if it didn't ffs
you forgot mines
<@&1206091872716595200> I am need once more
workin all day sorry
RIP my one spontaneous day off, how dare work exist for other people
my friend killed 2 bile titans with a 380 barrage
i'll be free in a few minutes
Nice i'll be on in about 10 minutes
arc thrower guy killed the entire team after I killed the charger with the RR and he got kicked by the host
I really REALLY wish the ballistic guard dog refilled off ammo boxes
Because it is REALLY GOOD
Hound is/was supposed to be limited too but it's bugged
I'll be there for a dive!
Just gimme 10
Maybe 15 minutes
The Rover?
Lordy yeah if it wasn't for the heavily constrained ammo it'd be the goat
No weird scything laser beams it just headshots everything within 50 meters in like .25 seconds
I'll be in activity 2
It's even using a Liberator so the fact it cannot be reloaded off standard ammo pickups is so bizarre
Yeah it's really frustrating
Rover, that's the name
Yeah AIUI the yellow bars on the backpack are supposed to be coolant and get used up whenever the rover overheats and docks with you
3575-1599
I NEED THIS
https://youtu.be/RBrFvshGFC0
This menu lets you check out all the game's weapons, vehicles, and starships in great detail, providing info on stats, mission effects, and even some lore tidbits!
***All of this is a fan-made animation. I have no idea what plans there are for these ominous consoles!
Helldivers fan art by Martechi.
All Models & Renders created by Martechi.
F...
hehheh docks.
In all seriousness has anyone had their guard dog friendly fire rate go up recently or does my dog need behaviour training.
FOR THE GOD PRESIDENT OF MANKIND
I think I got allocated Type 4
I've learned to keep it twisted around when there are bugs close to my left to stop it shooting me
I had this happen a little bit in the last week, but it calmed down. I chalked it up to poor positioning on the part of myself and others.
lmfao
The community manager on Tumblr seems to have been authorised to share some juicy tidbits:
https://www.tumblr.com/helldivers-2/744762290870665216/new-stratagems?source=share
We knew about two of these already, but I'm very intrigued by the missile silo??
Missile silo feels too long cooldown imo
Based on literally what?
leaked footage of it?
These have got to be placeholder CDs
It's basically just half an eagle rocket barrage
No way is the stinger on a 30 second CD
I like to believe I am 3
until its in the game it isnt real
Well if it only targets aircraft, is it that insane
I don't think we can judge based on leaks tbqh
Oh I missed the 5 uses part
That's a weird call in
Though I'd imagine the missile pod CD is shorter than it looks since support weapon CDs start when you drop it not when its used
Yeah it feels like a weird use of a slot to.. Kind-of-Sort-of have a SEAF SAM Launcher
Though getting more fliers down the line'll be a deal I spose
I wonder if 5 uses like 5 call ins total per mission
Im p sure with the silo you can do stuff like call 1 down and keep em active on the field
Until you need them
I'm guessing if you have multiple silos they all go when you use it
except default loudout 1, going to 3 soon
From the footage I've seen I just can't see a time I'd use it since iirc it doesn't even kill factories
From the leaked videos, it seems each silo drops with its own laser designator, so I don't think you can mass launch them. If the designator doesn't aggro, I could see some use as a stealth way to destroy certain targets, but if it can't break fabs.... I dunno
but glad to see the commando finally get an official teaser like that, been seeing it pop up for a while now
excited to see how it'll be
could see it being great here, if the missiles are comparable to, say, the rocket pod missiles with two being enough to kill a tank
strength could be buffed since it'll probably be shorter ranged than the recoilless rifle
Guess the question is how many missiles each silo has?
Shot in the dark 3~4
from the videos, 1
I really hope it's a bug that it can't destroy fabs and they can on release
preferably also having 2-3 shots per silo
I don't really buy anything as concrete until the are officially added
Mechs in the end are less about being run n gun and more
Mobile weapon platforms
Which is fine! Hey, as that, it's great, still a bit frail, but great.
Just never summon it in the middle of a krumpin'
let me shoot rockets without killing my call in is what i mean.
Also dunno how stratagems may end up being buffed by certain upgrades
tbf the causes of the missile bug are as far as I can tell deterministic and can be mitigated
plenty of things in hd1 were iffy until they got the anti tank or 'more bigger damage' sample upgrade
lol of course, who in their right mind, in this day and age, at this time of year, at this time of day, at this side of the country, entirely localized on your kitchen
Would say "get gud" as a legit insult ?
I feel ya
me when people complain about anything in sekiro except 2ape
Drop your shield

2 ape complaining is valid because it dropped me to like 25 fps and that was horrid
Mfw i drop my sheild
Perfect
Drop your shield
Get the energy one
omg thats right
I never tried that yet
I have been wanting to try the riot shield but the energyshield is just too good with randoms
I love riot shields so when I have the level I will grab it
Riot is neat but the fact ragdolling makes you drop it sucks
oh god thats right
my issue with the riot is that it forces you to use the select one primary slot
I have no problem with the cause the defender kicks ass
Easily top 3 weapon in my opinion
Yeah, could use some more one handed weapons, but the defender does work
Maybe one day 😦
oh who was it that found out
shame no way to make the double freedom a sawn-off like the first game
I did
YE
Very silly
Inb4 new challenge mode
yeeeees
hopefully whatever primaries they add with the warbond are nice n heavy
now i am become kerberos, the destroyer of media literacy
why are there 3 last rainforests?
I'd say a bit more than defeated if it's not on the map anymore
deleted
super earth strikes another victory for the collective human race o7
Maybe it was all one connected last rainforest that shrunk
Oh yea I hadn't thought of that
Don't forget the land bridge between africa and south america of 2150
So, was Antarctica just removed or is it just not on the map?
It melted
Also why did the north pole get nuked?
superstone park
considering a lot of wasteland zones also happen to line up with huge oil reserves I suspect those wastelands are not the result of nuking
I did see this on reddit and everyone appeared to miss that in favour of going "at last the British have been exterminated" for nine hundred posts straight, so there you go
the polar bears rose up
Don't forget the great wall of democracy
superstone park
Obligatory more like superstoned park
don't make me HMG you
Pyramids of Super Earth and Great Wall of Democracy are also bangers
missed opportunity for Superhenge
insanely based
One thing I noticed
Since Super Earth is 100% goverment owned and they don't have private companies
They force give jobs to their citizens, designate where they live (as seen in the trailers is all houses that look exact like one another), complete control and extreme propaganda
They are... technically more akin to socialism than Democracy?
yk they have big ass flags on it too
AUTOMATON
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
they clearly do have private companies
Oh i missed that, sorry
its super fascism
the place we salvaged the mechs from is ran by one, and there are adverts for home defence breaker shotguns running in the ship
with corporate branding
don't forget the eagle sweat
||CYBERSTAN||
||CAN'T KEEP HER DOWN||
||WE COUNT DOWN||
||GO TO WAR||
Though it was a goverment brand, because in the USSR there were such things as state-owned enterprises
every time i hear it i reach for the autocannon
maybe, but given all the straight-up propaganda for Super Capitalism I suspect we're not Secretly Leninist
no we totally are
they wrap around to being Super Communist Earth
They chanting slaps so hard, sorry
they seem to be pretty directly buying piles of guns from private manufacturers, considering the branding
Theres a loading screen tip that says the stims we use are absolutely not addictive at all and also that study was paid for by the corp that produces it
So question about the current major order, what does activating the terminid control system actually mean?
oooooh
Just liberating the planet?
it really does
where there would have been a "liberation progress" bar there is now an "activation progress" bar
so same thing, do ops there
but it triggers my kill response i’ve been manchurian candidate’d
Bugs don't have slapping theme like the bots
They do have that weird trilling alarm call
they should
Ah ok
But its not as good
Bringing back the cyborg theme from the first game
https://youtu.be/XEtwaDPxqB0?si=xqdlvCNClROsO8F6
Background music while fighting versus the Cyborgs on difficulties 9 and above. Originally recorded by Ttnbros. All credits to him and the developers of Helldivers. This version is edited for normalised volume and smoother ending.
i want a cursed clicky bug chant
They are sentient, so where is their marching theme
God I hated DS2 fucking tracking attacks
Rolling forward 9/10 was the best option
So their marching chanting is sweat and farts? Aw man
lame
Every single hollow having dodge punishing tracking was bullshit
that is 100% bs i agree
it’s so hard going back to older souls games after elden ring’s hit boxes
i love being able to ash of war under swipes n shit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZfxTS131N0 anyway have ptsd in mp3 form
1 hour of the ultimate bass boosted marching chant, with a progressively larger army of automatons marching to their chant from Helldivers 2! With bonus automaton voice lines and ambience!
Many thanks to all those who are helping interpret!
Here's a current consensus of the lyrics:
HEART - STEEL
WE - KILL
IRON - WILL
UNTO DAWN
HEART - STEEL...
it’s going into the VTT playlist
I appreciate the added game sounds
the automatons are legit making me want to play necrons, damn communists
:3
Maybe if the necrons guns were a tad less oversized... but yes :3
chop up las guns idk
y e s
Question for you all,
Is the premium warbond time gated?
I believe I’ve seen some stuff that says otherwise but I just wanna check
No, all warbonds are around for good
Okay that’s pretty cool
yeah
yea everything scummy you can think of about battle passes isnt here
Well they still cost money
i’m never gonna financially recover from this
they made a statement somewhere to the effect of "fuck FOMO, fuck time gated shit"
this is like the one time where I tolerate them costing money
you can just grind super credits from missions
And to a degree weaponize fomo to get you to buy each bond as they come out
though honestly I might spend money just to encourage them further
but also, yeah I was like halfway through the free pass and had enough to get the paid one. if I played more daily I could have been grinding them all out.
how is it fomo if its all possible to get for completely free
Having grind doesn't remove my point
its not even that grindy
its not grindy
:3
Yeah the super credit rate for free is pretty generous
Like not everyone has time or the patience to grind
thats the thing, dont grind
It's like 20-30 hours of normal play (IE not intentionally grinding) for 1000+ SC
just play and you get enough
I mean, like CYAN's saying it doesn't even take that much intentional grinding.
I understand that (no I dont I'm a warthunder player)
I didn't grind at all
making it sound like playing the game is the grind, it should be fun
I'm actually not sure how to optimally grind them run 4s and hit every POI?
I just, like. played the game regularly.
Trivials really
I just hope we don't have power creep
and nothing on that paid pass is really so game-changing I'd say I'm 'missing out' by not getting it NOW.
The map is a lot bigger on 4s so I think it might be more time efficient
I think trivials are the fastest easiest grind
but idk
Bring two people (in case of friendship doors) visit every point, knock out the mission ez and boom
it really is tbh
Yeah the best thing on the current paid pass is... the senator I guess?
The primaries are all fine but sort of mid
I think the game doesnt even lend itself to powercreep really, so far it seems they want everything to not outshine other stuff
the redeemer on single-shot mode is perfectly serviceable
Scout armor boots on ground trivial and don't even finish the mission and you can get lik 200 in an hour
or. whatever the machine pistol is called
primaries are meant to be mid by design, stratagem weapons are meant to to be where the real power lies
you can fire off rounds on single-shot real damn quick
I mean no. But literally for some you can maybe play a match every few days. That along with anxiety over fomo and time management still comes into play with the bonds. Like I know I'm speaking from my own experience with it.
I guess your experience is your experience, but I play literally once every two to three days lately and I'm 7 pages deep into the free pass, and I've bought the paid one basically for free with earned credits, and I don't feel like I've missed anything.
it'll be there if I wanna deliberately progress for it over time but, like, the shit I already have is still fun as hell and useful in a fight.
I have been putting a lot of time into this game, but I already have the current premium bond and enough SCs for two more stockpiled and I have never intentionally gone SC hunting
Playing the game is definitely a grind
Whether or not it's fun is if you enjoy grinding
I'm not sure if that's in response to what I was saying about the current pass but while the redeemer is really solid the senator has a strong niche for being a secondary which penetrates medium armor
fair, yeah
is it a grind if its just gameplay
The rest are fine but don't really bring anything as unique imo
I really disagree with this, lol. I play because I like the core gameplay loop of dropping in, killing things, and accomplishing objectives not because I enjoy grinding.
Ye cause arguably you do have to play in a somewhat specific way, depending on what you're grinding for
Do you?
And while I do wish we lived in a world where devs don’t need money, Helldivers does need to at least make a bit of money so they can keep the servers lights on and marginally not on fire so it’s probably the least toxic battlepassish system I’ve encountered
you really don't, though
Also yeah helldivers is not a grind normally
Ye, you can't just ignore all objectives I don't think
Grinding is a pretty specific term
yeah i feel like you're maybe misusing the term grinding
I mean sure. But ultimately any sorta pass charging money ultimately to some degree is predating on fomo. Because I'm assuming every bond is not gonna remain available to unlock access to forever. Like once you have the bond you have it though which is nice.
But maybe you can, in which case tell me plz
They said it will
The devs have stated the opposite yeah
which feels like a breath of fresh air
considering time gated battlepasses have become the normal
haveing come from games like warthunder or world of warships, i greatly prefer this "grind" to theirs
Do the devs have any official merch beyond the game?
Yeah I was pleasantly surprised by the monetization since there was a scare about the superstore on release
this doesn't even constitute as a grind to me (I ground 2 ground trees to top tier, gajin has ruined me)
Afaik none of the stuff is time-gated
Same here, with the difference that I've also bought all the light premium armour etc
i don’t think it is, no
I mean I'm aware. It still is using the monetization strategies though which was all I was pointing out. The only non monetized pass I know of was drg.
plus being able to get the SC in a decent amount of time is nice
I’d like to have some Helldiver stuff and still support the devs as I don’t really need to purchase SC.
There was some grind stuff in Helldivers but mortar grinding for medals/XP is mostly gone now
I got a couple of them, I'm waiting until I have 400 more SCs to get the Michelin Man suit because I would like to keep enough for more bonds on hand
the supercommando suit is indeed nice
I really want a model of the ship ngl, that’s my biggest want. Those ships look so cool
yeah as long as you play with the magpies masquerading as people here you'll get so much SC :v
For people wanting the source of if warbonds are forevergreen, here it is:
https://store.steampowered.com/news/group/40425349/view/3968301974645555698
However I will say that like
All I want is the tile of 'dead cadet'
Someone made an STL if you fw 3d printing
I'd kill for one of those, honestly.
as of now i'd bet the devs are doing pretty well as far as liquidity is concerned, the game is far more popular than they expected
Where there’s a will, there’s a way. I don’t have a 3D printer but I assume I can find one somewhere
yeah, the game did gangbusters
I need to create a business (a group of ferrets is called a business)
Off to find the STL!
the game did so much better than they probably ever expected
considering their previous entry was relatively niche
Thank you CYAN
of course the warhammer fan was the one to give the stl file /j
So you can buy access to a prior bond even after the release of a new one?
It's their plan
Fair enough
I think someone also made a build guide for a lego super destroyer
huh. thats weird. im sure its nothing to worry about
it’s in our natures
Actually question
A GIRAFFE
Are they called battle passes in HD2?
warbonds
warbonds
You know, I guess I should expected the game that is so heavy on satire to have devs that are pretty cool but like… damn
Warbonds
Yeah I wonder if like
That’s really cool
The most FOMO stuff in HD2 is the super store but at least rn stuff cycles through minimum weekly so its really not bad
yeah, see, I can agree with that much
yeah
I at least wish there was no cycle
a cycling store is a FOMO tactic
yeah I'd prefer that
just give me one bigass catalog
as more stuff gets added that cycle will take longer and longer
HD2's monetization feels a lot like meeting the bare minimum of a contract you dont particularly agree with lol
But at least we're not in Fortnite-hell "buy it now when its gone its gone f o r e v e r"
I do kinda like the catalog in the way that the armors don't matter that much, and it gives people a reason to try something new every couple of days
true i need my jug armor
it really does doesnt it
I get this feeling myself, honestly. it sort of feels like Sony telling them they had to have some kind of monetization to get their support.
Possibly, but this is also the magicka studio. One should take a gander at the steam store for that game
I mean, I guess? I didn't play any of their previous games though, and this feels like a very marked difference.
hd1s monetization was a lot different/worse
HD2 monetizing is unironically the fairest monetization they'd had imo
dlcs for everything
so it feels like something must have changed.
Oh I'm not gonna complain, I put this sorta in the category as me buying the stuff for DRG. Some cash to help keep the development ongoing
1 honestly sucked with the jillion 2-5$ dlcs for like 4 pieces of gear
because there's zero chance Sony would tell a studio 'oh yeah you should monetize less'
It’s honestly the lowest effort part of Helldivers
“Fuck it, put a few armors in a small screen and have em rotate for the premium money”
“And let SC be collectible in missions”
Nothing flashy, no big sales signs, just a few fake reviews
Which are IC satire
You can tell that it wasn't a huge priority because there were significant bugs with super credits on release
Since generally, buggy games have near-flawless premium stores haha
darktide i mean what
Oh yeah, nice to see somethign with that issue being reversed
darktide had a classic fatshark release
it did
Darktide has a lot of company there but yeah that's a good example
Fatshark games you need to wait 1~2 years after release to play properly
it's just the most recent example I think of
because that premium store launched flawless
I think Darktide sticks out because of some noticeable gaffs there. "Immeasurably complex" is never gonna go away
Good drip, but I do like to look like the Bulldozer from payday 2 one day
anyways it's the mark of a good game that just talking about it makes me want to boot HD2 up
I wish there's a ghillie in the future of HD2 but I feel like something like that is beyoned the scope of the average helldiver
considering their "training" is just a filter
myyyy hot take is that they are very well trained
unfortunately you cannot truly by THE FUCKING WALL yet
Ghillie suit that's just terminid parts
they are supposed to be taken out of normal SEAF, so it's not entirely untrained, but the Helldivers are still basically a 'lets throw bodies at the the killbots' method
decreases agro from enemies, increases agro from friendlies :v
or robot bits stapled on
I'd argue they're somewhere between a starship trooper and an ODST, myself. not spec-ops but a sight better than your average grunt.
I think a helldivers is a little below an ODST
The best 5 minutes of training super earth can afford
helldivers are just numbers
prolly below odst yeah but not grunt level
We got the good cardboard for our mech armor
considering how many we go through and how many are on ice
They used to be more well trained in helldivers 1 where they were taken from SEAF forces
My take on it is that **helldivers ** are not well trained but Super Earth's cartoonishly militarized society produces good soldiers with minimal training
nowadays they just need numbers
Well "good" as in in shape, motivated, and able to handle weapons
should note helldivers 1 had paid DLC for new stratagems (new mechs, weapons, etc.) and shit, this is significantly less predatory in comparison
and individual kill count wise we kill a fuck ton for at max average 25 people
helldivers fire their guns amazingly, have pretty good stamina considering their armor, know how to get up and down efficiently, and have AMAZING throwing arms (I'm sure baseball is a mandatory sport for this reason)
sounds like CoH2 Commander DLCs
soon
Hmm
The dozer armor is pretty good
yeah id see it more that every able-bodied citizen of Super Earth is soldier-level or bust
I don't have it but I played with someone who did and its actually hella tough
Why do you think I want the riot shield so bad even without a 1 handed shotgun?
I don't think I necessarily agree with that. But the dlc thing in 1 wasn't good either.
Actually if the society is super brainwashed, you could theoretically make super soldiers out of normal people by having their standards of life be super high
thus the filter
so super earth is basically cadia
GOD PLEASE ARROWHEAD
"Perfect health is patriotic" or w/e
I think it's way less predator
BREAKER RIOT SHIELD
Y e s
I see a lot of activity <@&1206091872716595200> we need more diving on the frontlines in activity 2
Yeah sort of similar - like everyone gets a rifle on super earth when they turn 16 iirc
WE CALL THIS A DIFFICULTY TWEAK RAHHHHHHHH
There is indication of other training. Things like Ranger Helldivers being a separate thing with separate training though it's no longer standard training as most get turned into nice meatbags
yeah the springfield lmao
everyone gets a pre ww1 boltaction
is it pre-ww1? i thought it was a sci fi springfield which was in ww1, no?
YEAH LIKE
Hear me out Arrowhead
its the M1903
yeah it's a scifi version of the springfield

