Helldivers 2: For Managed Democracy!

[glacial light]

Interesting maybe breaker, medium stim, flamethrower, shield, eagle, and either 110 rockets or railcannon

Does 110m one shot biles?

[stone bridge]

It won't sadly

[kindred lintel]

no

[stone bridge]

I'd take a 500kg, because that usually will

[honest acorn]

110 will usually open up their armor though

But I agree 500kg is better

[glacial light]

I try not to run 2 eagles at once to prevent downtime when ones out

Idk why I just don't like an eagle being out and not rearming

[pale remnant]

most relaxing bug helldive

[glacial light]

Have youve considered using your stratagems? /S

Ig I could do 500kg and railcannon

[candid finch]

I'd prefer 9 bile titans over 9 stalkers

[glacial light]

The amount of times I've been saved from being knocked back by a stalker thanks to shield is why I choose it over rov3r

[pale remnant]

the stalker knockback is definitely one of their nastiest aspects

[granite rivet]

oh lawd he comin

[glacial light]

I dropped like 600 super credits for the helm and armor to not really use it

[granite rivet]

yep

thankfully i have a bunch saved up from just playing and warbonds

[glacial light]

I probably should have waited to see if id use the armor before buying the helm but I couldn't go one mission with bad drip

[stark ether]

reminder new premium warbond the 14th

[glacial light]

Did they put a price on it yet?

[burnt vapor]

not yet I assume same as the last one at 1000 super creds

[south temple]

can’t wait for more lasers

guard dog, orbital, lascannon

[sinful bay]

Payday2 flashbacks

https://tenor.com/view/medic-payday-2-gif-9545303594697907095

[sinful bay]

Do you think the current one is wroth it?Extra limb protection and throw stuff further
And is heavy

[south temple]

but is the drip fire

that’s what matters

[dusty spruce]

Absolutely

fashion > functionality

[south temple]

it’s why the bone snapper hurts me

[sinful bay]

Honestly the only thing I didn't like is the color

it does NOT fit with the default helmets
And the black with gold drip? Majestic

[glacial light]

I like the heavy yeet armor for bots if you don't need the extra survivability of explosive heavy. That 30% throw is kind of huge and let's you do stratagem hit and runs without being noticed until the fabs are destroyed and by then you're like 100m away and running

[dusty spruce]

Combine it with the jumppack to throw strategems insane distances

[glacial light]

And you can take care of nearby fabs without wandering too far away from the team, especially at extraction when fabs tend to be within 100m of extract

[pale remnant]

The long yeet is really nice

I've got some really good strat throws off against bot and bug bases with it

[dusty spruce]

Though I prefer the armors in the steeled veterans warbond because robo limbs are rad

really weird that that pack doesn't have a light set

[sinful bay]

But yes the drip has a thing that I LOVE in heavy armor

[glacial light]

That's a hidden benefit is being able to throw from a distance means less time running that short distance adds up and I've noticed being able to shave a good 3-5 minutes off of a 40 min mission just dealing with fabs yourself

So you can just say you got this light or med base and your team does more important objectives

[sinful bay]

The plate thingy
I love it

that covers some of the mouth and neck

[azure pewter]

Bevor

[sinful bay]

👏
THAT'S THE NAME

Love that shit

tho I do hear the 'medic' armor is the best for survivor

[keen zinc]

i have acquired a cursed image

probably too risque for this chat

@quick plinth you wanted me to dm it to you but i cannae at you as a friend

[dusty spruce]

I think I accidentally killed a charger with physics being wonky?

[stone bridge]

Its a cool clip but I'm fairly sure it just bled out

It took an Airstrike pretty directly and you zapped it a whole bunch on top of that

[dusty spruce]

ah, just wonky timing then

[sinful bay]

Oh also, anyone been using the ammo backpack? Been a great support

[dusty spruce]

It's honestly a pretty good choice, especially on certain mission types or if you've got a good team.

I have a video here somewhere from earlier on of feeding ammo to someone with the autocannon backpack, while they are doing co-op reload with the autocannon user

Side bonus of that backpack basically being a free extra resupply, even without doing the whole 'pass around the backpack to double a resupply drop'

[honest acorn]

I haven't been that good about using it but I welcome it on my team

[full swallow]

Who up for a few games

[glacial light]

Supply drops become like a big potion I feel like where everyone tries to save it for a vital moment but it's never used ever

It is map dependent cause some maps throw nothing but supplies at you for POI and some maps give you nothing

[wide mural]

that's one of the best parts of the supply backpack, you can call down resupplies just to refill it

don't have to save it for when everyone needs stuff, can just distribute over time again

[rich marlin]

@steady vine

[glacial light]

Huh that's really cool

[stone bridge]

yeah that's the thing about the supply pack

[wide mural]

yeah the first time I saw the backpack fill up from a resupply drop I was like

oh, this is all I'm ever taking then

[stone bridge]

it gets supplies back for every supply you take

[wide mural]

even being totally selfish it's a ton of ammunition, stims, grenades for myself

[stone bridge]

for maximum value you want to have Spear or Recoilless Rifle user(s) on the team

[glacial light]

I tried supply pack and railgun pre nerf and that was fun

[wide mural]

also basically acts as a second resupply drop? you can drop a new backpack mid mission for another four resupplies

[glacial light]

Didn't know how to give others supplies

[wide mural]

I'm a grenade launcher enjoyer and the backpack definitely supports how hungry it is

I'd say probably half my resupplies go to myself, other half to my friends

also turns out accidentally dropping directly between two stalker nests is kind of difficult to pull out of

[glacial light]

I love the grenade launcher and jumpjets

Against bugs you're basically untouchable if you play right

[wide mural]

I wear 50% reduced explosive damage entirely because I know how unpredictably grenades can ping off things and back into my face

had one accidentally ricochet off a friend's shield and go straight up into the air earlier

[glacial light]

I do that for bots, no longer fear rocket devastators except for ragdoll physics deaths

[wide mural]

suddenly we're playing lawn darts

[honest acorn]

https://youtu.be/-HCS-pLjUl4

lol

[merry cosmos]

Payday was robed

[sinful bay]

it was man...

[stone bridge]

what kind of robes? monk, priest?

[glacial light]

Bath

[stone bridge]

woah

[candid finch]

"AH!"

[naive dragon]

⚡

[candid finch]

shock trooper

[naive dragon]

Now I just need those new guns

[stone bridge]

high tech trooper

[honest acorn]

What armor is that?

[naive dragon]

one sec, once I'm done this drop I'll get it

[honest acorn]

[eternal lantern]

Big dick brick

[naive dragon]

Armor: CE-81 Juggernaut (Medium Engineering Kit, SE store)
Helmet: SC-37 Legionnaire (Standard Issue, SE store)

[honest acorn]

Thank you

Wasn't expecting engineering kit with that look but neat

[stone bridge]

<@&1206091872716595200> i yearn for the mines

[naive dragon]

It's very based

[glacial light]

I am ready to dive into the hellmines

[naive dragon]

I can dive

[stone bridge]

I shall be in Activity 2

[oblique storm]

BTW

I thought of something

"Mechs suck against bots" but what if

Bubble Shield + Mech

vs bots

[naive dragon]

#9585-3151

[glacial light]

4019-6481

[unreal merlin]

To make mechs not suck against bots, you must have prime situational awareness and control over the engagement .

It's still kinda >:T since scout striders seem to be totally immune to the machine gun, but it's solid vs devastators and the rockets are great.

Eventually we'll get the EXO-48 Obsidian and it'll probably dunk on bots though.

[pale remnant]

If it's medium armour penetrating (which it seems to be) you want to focus on the legs of the scout walkers, since I think the front is heavier, armour wise

[unreal merlin]

EXO-44 - Minigun + Rockets
EXO-48 - 2x Twin 20mm Autocannons
EXO-51 - Flamethrower + 90mm Battle Cannon

[unreal merlin]

Perhaps, I think it's jank that it's significantly more protected against medium-pen bullet hail than devastators are.

[candid finch]

A single rocket kills the dood behind the shield though

[unreal merlin]

Yeah but I wanna save the rockets for bigger problems, is all.

[barren iron]

GOD

the exosuit is really buggy

[unreal merlin]

Don't missile while walking left.

[upbeat vector]

Don't missile while turning left.

[strange vine]

Don't missile.

[upbeat vector]

Honestly yeah that

[stone bridge]

I have not died once to the missile bug

It's not hard to avoid

[granite rivet]

the mental image of super earth r&d seeign that the mech blows itself up if it walks in a certain direction while firing a missile and going "we could fix that but we won't" is peak comedy

[keen zinc]

Do not fire rocket without a stable firing position

Ez

[upbeat vector]

I have died to it while intentionally tryring to avoid it

[wide mural]

look my first experience with the mech was exploding seconds after entering it and I wouldn't trade that for the world

[keen zinc]

Someone drew the arachnid warrior laptop meme image but anthro and

[daring monolith]

I’ve blown myself up once with the bug and have gotten used to rocketing while stationary

[glad marsh]

Mine was it exploding the second it landed and I never got to use it

[stiff pine]

my friend

I climbed in as like 3 spitter things hit me and I exploded

[cerulean sluice]

entirely realistic

[granite rivet]

no it's a 20/20 with trample

doesn't matter if you block it it will kill you

[cerulean sluice]

I'm feeling a 5/5 with a tap+X-cost that deals like 5 damage to X targets

[lethal granite]

at what point do you consider yourself leveled up enough for all game content?

10? 15? 20?

also that tien kwan payout was massive

[unreal merlin]

However high level you need to be to have:

• an anti-armor option (EAT, RR, Railcannon, getting gud with Precision Orbital, etc)
• a support weapon you like to bring (default MG is unironically just really good)
• a booster to equip (ideally at least one person brings the ammo booster every mission)

after that it's just finding things you like and what synergizes well, and skill

[jolly mortar]

https://vxtwitter.com/HelldiversAlert/status/1766638737751208404?s=20

[stone bridge]

I am getting very good at the mech

Consistently getting the most kills when I'm using them

My most common deaths are consistently from Chargers basically glitching forward at ridiculous speeds and one hitting me

Which is fair, and balanced

[stone bridge]

Lmao yeah basically

[glacial light]

Mechs are good fun

I'll be using them against bugs

Let's me be dumb and charge into unsuspecting clusters of nests

And make it out alive usually

[stone bridge]

In the 2nd mission of that Op we were in, @cobalt patrol and I were the last alive and did some sick combined arms shit on the main ore mining objective

Me in the mech keeping things off them while they flamered the bulk of the oncoming horde

[lethal granite]

yeah so far i just bring recoiless rifle and a bunch of air and orbital strikes

almost at autocannon though

[cobalt patrol]

Oh my god that's an actual CGI shot that exists whhhhhyyy

[cobalt patrol]

That was great because we didn't even verbally communicate it, it just played out really naturally

Of course, earlier in the mission I had seconds to register that briars 500kg had just embedded in the ground of the cliff I was on, and then I was no longer with them.

My vaporised particles were though! 😄

[stone bridge]

Lmaooo

That was so funny

I called it down on the bile, but

Being at the edge of the map strikes again

So it caught the cliff

[cobalt patrol]

Yep, it was great

[lethal granite]

i had a kinda badass moment

took like 6 consecutive shots from rocket devestators and was slamming stims, taking cover, and waiting for my 180mm orbital to make impact

one them hit me almost square and did like 70% my hp and sent me flying back

that marksman rifle aint half bad in the early going, wish it had like a couple more shots but it is still p cool and good

[vestal trail]

https://packaged-media.redd.it/vkpxxqrb4enc1/pb/m2-res_480p.mp4?m=DASHPlaylist.mpd&v=1&e=1710046800&s=2d452a9206bac1470b788bc79a40c15e3769be5c#t=0

[unkempt river]

I feel like elim missions have become too overwhelming. The maps feel too small for the amount of enemies that spawn

[stone bridge]

Yeah they tuned them a bit too hard

[lethal granite]

yeah i notived those missions feel hard to solo

unless youre undercutting the difficulty

im level 10 and doing medium difficulty elim feels insane

by myself

the rest of the mission types i can do with somewhat relative ease

[strange vine]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3KhScBe89M

[stone bridge]

<@&1206091872716595200> who up

[cobalt patrol]

I'm back in bed sorry. Stupid long COVID

[stone bridge]

very valid

[quick plinth]

considering its 0901 I just woke up

so I'll be there if you wanna helldive lmao

[stone bridge]

if we get one more I'll jump in Activity 1 or something

[burnt vapor]

I am around

[stone bridge]

sweet

be there in a sec, I should actually use the bathroom rq

[burnt vapor]

I shall do the same then

[stone bridge]

@quick plinth we'll be in activity 1

[modest fiber]

le chonk

[stone bridge]

<@&1206091872716595200> need 1 more for democracy

[barren iron]

My main issue with the mechs is the "the rockets shoot exactly where you aim"

Bug

Because I am almost always focused on where the shoot reticle is more than anything else

<@&1206091872716595200> Need some more to fight the fascist/communist/non-democratic menace

[unkempt river]

oof

If I wasn't at work, I'd be there

[keen zinc]

I'm not gonna sugar coat it

[merry cosmos]

⬆️➡️⬇️⬇️⬇️

[graceful bluff]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1102976131503763496/1216313053591634081/lv_0_20240309022638.mp4?ex=65ffeecd&is=65ed79cd&hm=edec6f882adfa7405cc4c3dc52998dad27123ef60270a99b706a98261e4e591f&

https://tenor.com/view/evil-are-we-the-baddies-surprised-gif-19176339

Bot marching song is literally just about taking back cyberstan and freeing the cyborg slaves

[idle hollow]

Always have been.

[merry cosmos]

But... how can humanity be the bad guys? where humanity. Are you saying you're a fucking bug sympathizer!?!

[idle hollow]

free cyberstan

[stark ether]

weeks of searching

i found it

the moon moon of helldivers

[red steeple]

There’s also Dawn of Dawn

[granite rivet]

Lmao

I wish we had the ability to customize our ship's exterior so seeing the ships in orbit looked even more like an absolute cluster

[glacial light]

I like the patriot of patriotism

Or fist of family values

And executor of the people cause it's easily misread

[steady bone]

I am knight of midnight

[cobalt patrol]

I'm still happy with mine being Prophet of Audacity, which suits me and my shennagins down to a T

[glacial light]

Another one I rocked for a bit I'd mother of the people

[keen zinc]

Warrior of War

[lethal granite]

Oh right so i saw a post that was like semi funny but it said that bile titans are considered a smaller terminid bioform. Anyone know if this is real?

[stark ether]

afaik bile titans are officially considered "mid tier" in the planned progression

[lethal granite]

Gotcha

Automatons are just automatons and kinda just "evolve" by way of making a bigger better model

Rn im just spitballing what could appear down the line

[stark ether]

theres some kind of worm thing you can see the corpses of scattered about

[glacial light]

Yes on their homeworld they're considered mid sized which will be fun once we reach that

The bosses will be insane

[stark ether]

i hope we get a mission where we just man the guns of the ship

[lethal granite]

Also ive been in malevelon creek lately

This place is hellish

All the places are hellish. Tien kwan was hellish but malevelon creek is proving to be a real grindstone

[glad marsh]

We command the elected representative of family values

[cobalt patrol]

Also it was a big boss in the previous game

[glad marsh]

The ship names are very fun

Oh but yes!
I suspect we'll see the big bosses again

I mean
These are a couple of the bigger enemies in the first game
The behemoth and impaler, which were variants of the tank (the previous game's charger)

[candid finch]

Ombudsman of Gold is my horrible destroyer name

[glad marsh]

So there is plenty more we can expect to show up

If they're gonna drop any new enemies though it might be the entire illuminate faction first

[graceful bluff]

yeah there's a bunch of variants we haven't seen yet and it terrifies me

because thanks to modern patch deployment they can just have that kinda shit in their back pocket until suddenly they show up when there haven't even been a patch

[glad marsh]

Yeppers

I think that's really neat game design though

Very immersive

Assuming hackers don't get a hold of that too

[stark ether]

probably harder to access that than stratagems

[glad marsh]

I hope

[graceful bluff]

yeah the way some games do it is that it has the stuff encrypted, and then you send a decryption key outside of the way patches normally do stuff to activate it

[dusty spruce]

The behemoth charger is actually in game right now

[barren warren]

wait i was reading back log what do you mean bile titans are mid-sized 😭

[dusty spruce]

They show up guarding some objectives

[barren warren]

they're huge

[graceful bluff]

Tiny babbies

[glacial light]

They're normal sized on their homeworld

[graceful bluff]

Considering we can actually run on enemies just fine(jump packing on top of bile titans is hilarious)

[glacial light]

We're just on the border worlds and fighting babies basically

[barren warren]

dawg i gotta unenlist i gotta go be a technician

[graceful bluff]

I really hope they go full shadow of the colossus with it

Give me something bigger than a hive lord

[glad marsh]

Wait huh
I gotta see that

Hmmm
So they are

Neato

[glacial light]

I want the ability to explode a hole in a bug and climb inside to blow it up with grenades

Like the scarab from halo

[glad marsh]

Looking at the timeline of people uploading footage of it, the behemoth appeared about a week ago

[glacial light]

Or if bots would be easier to design that way

[cobalt patrol]

I was about to tell you Charger Behemoths are a thing already.

I dont actually know wha'ts different about them mechanically, but they're very visibly different. tehy show up on the civilian defence missions (the one where you have to do a mini civi extract) and on the hunt-the-x missions at low tiers, after brood commanders but before bile titans

[cobalt patrol]

Nah, they've b een in the game since launch

[glad marsh]

Weird that everyone uploading stuff is acting like they're new then

[keen zinc]

They have more health than normal charger but not by much

[glad marsh]

It also appears they hurt slightly more when they trample you, but I'm not sure

[cobalt patrol]

Because they're very rare to see, and also content creators are going to content create.

but they have pretty specific spawn conditons which means they just dont turn up in 90% of games

and they're e asy to miss in the 10% of games that do turn up

@stone bridge didnt even belive me abotu the behemoths in defence until i made them come look, what a jerk 😛

[glad marsh]

I see I see

Now I have to wonder if there are any other rare enemies

[glacial light]

Joel

[cobalt patrol]

I dont think so, but i'd have to check.

I know sometimes bile spewers can spawn as 1 offs when there's no otehr biles in the map

[naive dragon]

Last night tho lol

I'm still losing it over the sheer volume of titans that came up

One of them when it spawned iunno if it was a glitch or not but it looked like it dropped from the sky

[lethal granite]

Oh right what do yall have your ships named

Mine is Aegis of Pride

[keen zinc]

SES Warrior of War. I am an adherent of the Church of Jump Packs, I assault my problems with shotgun, revolver, LMG, and impact grenades.

[naive dragon]

SES Harbinger of Family Values

[dusty spruce]

Bugs in general seem to have funky spawn rates. Automaton enemy rates feel consistent to me, but Terminid missions have some sort of randomization factor. Some missions have spewers, some don't, some missions seem to spawn a ton biles, some have none except for the occasional wandering one. Sometimes you get a wave of 'oops all brood commander' or big hunter patrols.

[naive dragon]

Ottos be like "do you want twenty berserkers today or another flamer hulk? Too late have both"

[glacial light]

I'm rethinking my bot build once again

[naive dragon]

I just wish scythe felt as good as laser backpack drone scythe does

[glacial light]

Slugger (but no slugger so breaker for now for berserkers), heavy explosive, 110 rockets, laser cannon, shield, and ?

Not sure on the ?, I want mech but it's paper to rocket devastators

Weaker than my character

[naive dragon]

Nothing wrong with an airstrike

[glacial light]

I kind of want to avoid doubling up on eagles

[cobalt patrol]

I really hate fucking heavy devs

the stagger is stupid

[keen zinc]

Use the punisher

[dusty spruce]

Airburst maybe?

something good for clearing waves of chaff

[keen zinc]

It staggers heavy devs at huge range

[dusty spruce]

the slugger can struggle with that

[naive dragon]

Between slugger and punisher which one is which

[keen zinc]

Slugger shoots... Slugs

[glacial light]

I do have the punisher so probably that instead of breaker

[naive dragon]

Okay

[keen zinc]

Punisher does not shoot slugs

[naive dragon]

Thanks

[keen zinc]

Punisher is my favorite gun rn

[steady vine]

Same

[naive dragon]

I am trying to save up for that

[glacial light]

Is airburst an orbital?

[dusty spruce]

Yes

[steady vine]

Yep

[naive dragon]

I had to spend req to unlock the card 😔

Er, medals

[keen zinc]

It's impact force is massive, it can push back Brood Commanders and stagger Heavy Devastators

[glacial light]

I probably want an explosive orbital in case there's AA

[steady vine]

Also airburst is surprisingly good at medium armored enemies

[glad orchid]

Punisher has become my go to against the bots

[keen zinc]

Like it can send a Brood Commander back 10 feet no joke

[glad orchid]

The stagger is so handy

[keen zinc]

The force is insane

[naive dragon]

I like throwing the Tesla tower into a place I don't plan to go into

[glacial light]

What's the current personal? Is it bile titans?

[rotund marten]

<@&1206091872716595200> have spare time to try out the mechs now if anyone wants to join me for some casual 7s

[keen zinc]

Landmine kills

[rotund marten]

possibly lower

[glacial light]

I am a casual 7s but unfortunately I am not available for the next uh 7 hours

[copper crest]

Precision orbital is a good all rounder, could also consider a turret or bubble shield

[steady vine]

Sure!

[keen zinc]

I will be down to play on Thursday

Possibly Wednesday evening

[dusty spruce]

Oh yeah, that shield emplacement is great against bots

has a really quick cooldown too

good for covering an objective when the big waves come

especially the seismic probe one

I swear the bots have a specific hatred of you prospecting their rocks

[glacial light]

I forget precision exists at time

It is a good one

[glad marsh]

So the mech melee can 2 shot chargers :/

[glacial light]

And I've got a lot of practice from 500kg getting it right and it's basically a flashy precision

[steady vine]

Precision has been really hit or miss for me, either does really well or nothing at all

[glacial light]

Meleeing a charger with a mech, bold move

Ig charger kind of fizzle against the sides of a mech

[dusty spruce]

The charger charge will get stopped by the mech, unless it does that ‘big stomp’ move

[graceful bluff]

Impact killing biles and chargers with the 500kg never stops feeling great

[dusty spruce]

Which will oneshot the mech

[wraith furnace]

I'd argue you get more bang for your buck on Hard, sure the enemies are a pain in the butt but the bonus is higher

[dusty spruce]

I think it also depends on what you're trying to grab. Difficulties with rare samples will replace some item drops with rares, which therefore lessens your chances for each pod/bunker to have medals/reqs/super coins

[rich marlin]

I’m tending towards trivial for poi looting

[keen zinc]

https://www.rxddit.com/r/Helldivers/s/gu6Ld4ZKRW

[rich marlin]

As someone said during that discussion, maps are smaller while usually not really skimping on the number. And you can handle the enemies really easy

[stark ether]

trivial is optimal farm for a lot of things

[glacial light]

For liberation percentage speedrunning trivial ops are the best way to min max it

[stark ether]

i am very eepy, but i have 1000sc for thursday

[glacial light]

I wonder if they'll do a paid dlc for the new pass, I know I could buy SC separately but it doesn't feel the same

[rich marlin]

Might get on a run a few trivials

[glacial light]

I would be sad on trivial cause I love seeing stratagems blowing up the big kiddos

I'm very much a big game hunter now even though I started as an airstrike/cluster/napalm bug destroyer

[rich marlin]

I just want the easiest time with the most pois

I do love my some challenge but sometimes efficient is more important

[honest acorn]

https://x.com/ciaphuscaim/status/1766600134417080746?s=46&t=RjdIzh2qFuWkjovzBmgCsQ

ophthalmophobia. (@CiaphusCaim) on X

Friend has access to a dev server for #HellDivers2

Here's some content he sent to me. I have his full permission to share it.

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I’m glad hazops is back for armor

[graceful bluff]

of course there's a jin-roh

[honest acorn]

Also the Spartan Laser looks neat

[strange vine]

https://youtu.be/0xXXMNaSOQw?si=uiLXBKdF0HZZMx1L

[graceful bluff]

Been doing a bit of arc thrower in preparation for the new one and I'm always surprised how well it deals with chargers

if it arcs to one of its legs it opens up a small hole you can just shoot normally

[dusty spruce]

YES! MY HAZARD OPS SET

Granted the drip is a little different, but it's close enough

[barren warren]

big yellow among us armor time

[graceful bluff]

How much does the scythe do currently

cause the sickle doing 55 seems pretty nice

[keen zinc]

A good identifier for people you don't want on your team

[dusty spruce]

also since it's briefly shown here but doesn't have the video played, I may as well put this video up I found a while back
Info: spoilers ||for the Quasar Cannon||

[honest acorn]

It’s very dependent on playstyle and precision

Polarizing weapon

[graceful bluff]

no I mean in the stat window

[honest acorn]

Oh none of its stats make any sense

But it was “300/s” for damage

[graceful bluff]

yeah just trying to figure out if 55 is low or high

[honest acorn]

(This seems to be a lie)

The sickle is the pulse laser right? 55 would be the same as the liberator

[rapid plover]

comparing them directly is a bit tricky, since the Sickle is burst fire and not a continuous beam like the Scythe

[graceful bluff]

Hello beautiful

This seems like everything I wanted the laser cannon to be

[rapid plover]

a bunch more medium AP weapons from the look of it
which is nice

[wide mural]

holy shit I love it

what an absurd weapon

[graceful bluff]

Just give me that but for stratagems

[lethal granite]

is that in the supercitizen warbond

[graceful bluff]

we don't know yet

[dusty spruce]

That and some more ||explosive things|| are in a leaked one called ||'Democratic Detonation'||
Was leaked at the same time as the now officially revealed and upcoming 'Cutting Edge'

[keen zinc]

Fuckin spoilers

[strange vine]

Holy
|| https://imgur.com/OwXbunu ||

[glad marsh]

Goodness me that carpet bomb

[keen zinc]

That's the fucking HMG??

[rapid plover]

presumably

[keen zinc]

Americadabra

[dusty spruce]

That's a chunky boi of a gun

[graceful bluff]

That gun should give you a bonus to melee damage god damn

[keen zinc]

Jump pack and HMG

Life

[glad marsh]

||we also really like that missile silo thing, depending on the range for it.. it'll be very useful for doing objectives||

[graceful bluff]

goomba stomp enemies

[graceful bluff]

Is there a video of that?

[glad marsh]

There's a clip of it in this one @graceful bluff

I think it's time-stamped?

Yeah it's near the 14:40 mark

[keen zinc]

On one hand

Cool stuff

Other hand

Spoiled

[glacial light]

I want to delete that direction

[graceful bluff]

||I do hope there's an upgrade to get two of the silos though, else I don't really see it beating the EAT for objective destruction||

[glad marsh]

||I'm just happy we've got an equivalent of the old screen clears. It's probably super limited use though||

[glacial light]

Makes sense considering orbital laser is limited to 3

[granite rivet]

Unrelated but I think one of the most peak helldivers things is being reinforced as soon as the pelican arrives.

You're literally being dropped down just to go back up

[sinful bay]

how do you mark the map in long distances? As wellusing stratagems so far away

[graceful bluff]

I really want upgrades to my hellpod

like blasting an airburst around me just before I exit

[barren warren]

you can open the map and tag it, which is nice for letting the team know youre gunna go explode a bug base rq

as for farwaway stratagems: i just throw real good

[sinful bay]

o

[graceful bluff]

without the bonus armor you can throw 41 metres

I forget what it is with the armor

[sinful bay]

thank u

[honest acorn]

Also stratagem balls inherit your momentum so diving forward and throwing in the dive boosts the distance

[graceful bluff]

Momentum is stored in the balls

[glad marsh]

Oh uh
Huh
||https://youtu.be/aX_ttsibiDo?si=HqvFtxZdskswpqL6||

[vestal trail]

Precision Strike is, for better and worse, very precise

[honest acorn]

Hitting or missing are indeed all it will do :p

[sinful bay]

Incendiary Breaker feels like you are shooting fireworks at the enemy

[honest acorn]

Yeah basically

They do pretty good damage tho

[sinful bay]

agreed

[graceful bluff]

It is honestly the best depiction of dragons breath rounds I've seen in a game

[lethal granite]

the gas strike ive found to be not half bad

good for canning up bug breaches for a bit

[graceful bluff]

Dropping either the gas strike or EMS strike on a bug breach is lowkey busted

[lethal granite]

yea lmao

[graceful bluff]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/KP9mL30bl-A

[upbeat vector]

Why not both?

[idle hollow]

have you seen ||the unused music that people think is for the squids?||

[glad marsh]

I've seen posts about it, but || I'll wait to hear it myself in game||

[idle hollow]

it's fucking great, ||absolute banger tracks and they fit the illuminate well||

[cobalt patrol]

Okay, they've d one some incredible bullshit to rocket devs

[graceful bluff]

lol

[honest acorn]

Oh?

[sinful bay]

is the extra padding that significant ? Or nha?

[strange vine]

Gives you same armor as medium armor roughly

[sinful bay]

thank ya

[wide mural]

yeah extra padding is +50 armor

[red steeple]

Yeah, if all you care about in light armor is speed and stamina degen, then this gives you the same rating as medium armor!

[sinful bay]

sounds gud

[meager sandal]

Does armor rating affect knock back? Because stalkers have been knocking me back a good 50ft at times now

[sinful bay]

Now
👏
very important question

Nazi helmet? The shape the top has is... sussy

[lethal granite]

what do you all think of liberator pentrator rifle?

[honest acorn]

I think so but not very much

[honest acorn]

I really like it vs bots

Haven really used it against bugs

[lethal granite]

i havent yet but it caught my eye since it is in the next level of catalogue for me

im just getting through page 5

[wide mural]

I've enjoyed it against bugs

[honest acorn]

It’s very accurate and strong at long range

[wide mural]

yeah the high zoom level is really nice

[honest acorn]

And pretty good at killing devastators at long range

[lethal granite]

that all sounds really appealing for me since rn im using the diligence

for most of those purposes

[wide mural]

can shoot right through the faceplate of hive guards

[lethal granite]

WHAT

that's

awesome

[wide mural]

it's slowish but it works

[lethal granite]

fair enough

[wide mural]

but yeah good accuracy at range and zoom, burst fire keeps up at close range, armor pen is enough to be relevant, it's a good all rounder

[upbeat vector]

It doesn't do the most damage, but if you're not using it against proper Heavies it will always be doing that damage

[honest acorn]

Yeah the anemic damage stat is kind of a lie because it gets red hitmarkers way more

[upbeat vector]

And if you can hit weakspots with it, it doesn't even do that little

[lethal granite]

ah it is consistant

that makes sense

[wide mural]

solid ammo capacity too at 10 mags

[upbeat vector]

10 mags with 30 each, yeah

[wide mural]

I don't think I've ever taken it off burst fire so it's more functionally 10 shots but yeah

[honest acorn]

You can single tap the burst fire tbf

(I never do)

[keen zinc]

I love that armor

Speed

[jolly mortar]

takes more firing discipline than the regular liberator because your burst can go wide if you don't aim decent. but if you aim even slightly okay you're nailing shit pretty reliably. i can take down devs and hive guards with some ease.

[sinful bay]

Speed fun

[wide mural]

I love the speed of light armor but I need passives that compensate for what a hazard I am to myself with my chosen secondaries so it's always medic or 50% explosive damage

and I don't think I've seen a light armor with those yet?

[honest acorn]

They’re in the super store

[keen zinc]

Armor is always useful, especially since it'll probably be being buffed soon based on feedback

[keen zinc]

Trench Paramedic and Eradicator

I think you JUST missed Eradicator

[wide mural]

eh, it'll come back around

armor buff will make my friend happy, he picked up the extra padding heavy armor that looks like a bomb squad suit and has been rocking it exclusively

[dusty spruce]

Is the later medic armor that comes with the Spray&Pray not a light set?

[wide mural]

ngl I just haven't made it that far into the warbond yet

[barren warren]

I really like it, esp with my scope set out longer

[keen zinc]

No

[dusty spruce]

I have a hard time telling by sight whether armor is light or medium, I think

[naive dragon]

I still really like the smg but I want the punisher a lot

[rotund marten]

light armour with blast plating is the only thing that has reliably kept me alive after one rocket hit

[naive dragon]

I wonder if the new laser will be fun

[rotund marten]

while preserving light armour speed

pretty sure extra padding does not affect rockets

[naive dragon]

One thing I like about the smg is I can run away and shoot behind me if need be instead of the walking back that happens when you try to fire behind you

[keen zinc]

Idk

I've survived rockets in my current armor but only sometimes

I think if I get hit in a way where my armor is as effective as it can be, I can survive

And while blast resist is very nice, it doesn't protect you from the many other things that can kill you hard in light armor

[idle hollow]

sickle was massively popular in HD1

so hopefully it's as good in HD2 as it was

[velvet pollen]

yes, intentionally so

[sinful bay]

oh no

[barren iron]

hey in their defence the stahlhelm isn't just the nazis

but yes

it is infact meant to be jihn-rho ish

[rotund marten]

blast reisst plus shield has been good to me

[barren iron]

sorry

[velvet pollen]

they have skulls and shit all over their jet black armor the devs were not subtle about you being nazi stormtroopers

[barren iron]

jin-roh

[rotund marten]

but I am number one grenade launcher fan so my backpack is free for supply pack or personal shield

[idle hollow]

saw leaked stuff that has armour that looks even MORE like jin-ro

[sinful bay]

Oh my god that's som' good drip, fuck

[idle hollow]

also one that is 100% going to be used for DKOK LARP

which i dread

it's bad enough in darktide i don't want to have to deal with it in helldivers too

[sinful bay]

Which is funny because, yes the helmet is german, but the mask is british, the coat french and the shovel usa

Is suppose to be "WWI the uniform"

[lethal granite]

personally i was thinking of the helm being more like the vet ranger helm from FONV

but yeah it makes sense

[idle hollow]

the helmet is actually closer to an adrien helmet, which is the french helmet

[sinful bay]

Big Iron sidearm when

[idle hollow]

wait

no

it's a mix of a ww1 stahlhelm and that helmet

[lethal granite]

walking barrage seems p good

[idle hollow]

DKOK, stahlhelm, adrian helmet

[lethal granite]

i might use that over the 180mm

120mm*

[sinful bay]

Yeah, is suppose to be WWI the uniform but
People will not understand satire , as always

[lethal granite]

but yeah idk i just use the helmet because it is neat looking and mighty intimidatin

[sinful bay]

yes

and gasmasks are neat

And/or terrifying , up to you

[quick plinth]

and then a charger snuck up on us

lmao

[glacial light]

Beautiful mech wall

I wonder what the vehicle upgrades for the mechs will be

[honest acorn]

I’m guessing toughness ammo and strategem launcher

[graceful bluff]

.

[quick plinth]

ah

thx

[glacial light]

All of which I'd be extremely hyped for

Imagine doing a drive by stratagem on a bot base with the APC

[honest acorn]

Oh that’d be interesting - only the mechs had it in 1 iirc

[glacial light]

Yea makes sense mechs and like other drivables would have different upgrades

I think the mechs only have a vehicle and something else tag?

[granite rivet]

Warhammer 40k fans and poor media/historical literacy

name a better pair

[glacial light]

Wdym starship troopers isn't a guidebook for the ideal society

[oblique lotus]

I mean it's not a historical literacy problem the DKs are just an amalgam of every WW1 uniform

they're "WW1 soldier" in the same way that cadians are "1960s/70s canadian army" or the catachans are "vietnam vietnam vietnam vientam"

[barren iron]

I did it

[oblique lotus]

noice

super earth salutes you

[rotund marten]

I have noticed that if I wear a personal shield while in the mech, the shield sticks out of the front of the mech and catches a few bullets

largely pointless but funny

[dusty spruce]

Honestly if that could eat a missile for you or something that'd be an amazing tech

[rotund marten]

I'm pretty sure it can eat one rocket, but the rocket devastator will still kill you easily

[glacial light]

I thought it was visual

Cause I don't think rover works in mech so I'm assuming shield doesn't

[rotund marten]

I saw it eat bullets and go down

so I think it works

[hot meadow]

I have a question about automaton tanks

Can I just shoot them with EATs and expect them to die, or do I have to hit a weakspot on the tank somewhere?

[candid finch]

There is a glowing vent on the back of the turret

[honest acorn]

You can shoot them in the front of the turret for more damage but it takes more hits

[lethal granite]

finding an artillery encampment 🙏

especially with a HYE round or Mini Nuke

[velvet pollen]

you can shoot the weakspot with any weapon and do respectable damage, but your best bet for wiping tanks fast is the eagle 500 or rocket pod, which both one shot, or the airstrike, which seems to do most of its health or one shot probably depending on whether any of the explosions are considered to hit the weakspot

orbitals work too but most of them have pretty long cooldowns and the bots often send tanks in packs past level 7

[meager saffron]

airstrike + similar gems are pretty solid counterplay

[honest acorn]

2 impact grenades to the turret bustle also seems to kill them

[meager saffron]

hard to go wrong

[honest acorn]

Maybe 3 if you don’t hit the heat sink dead on

[sinful bay]

Lancer fans and never playing the game -runs

[meager saffron]

impact grenades, recoilless, autocannon to weakspot

[honest acorn]

Lmfao

[hollow plover]

Stalkers just do that. Their tongue game is out of this world.

[graceful bluff]

what

[hollow plover]

Not sure versus the standard cannon tanks, but an EAT shot tend to kill the blaster tanks in one shot to the turret.

[honest acorn]

Hulk DNA showing

[stiff pine]

I have a question: can the extract pelican die?

[graceful bluff]

technically yes

[lethal granite]

yea

[graceful bluff]

but you really have to try

[stiff pine]

Because we had one explode

[lethal granite]

yeah

that indeed can happen

[honest acorn]

It can?

huh

[stiff pine]

Yeah it was on a horrific blitz mission with 10,000 bots and a ton of hulks

[lethal granite]

a series of extremely unfortunate events must occur

[lethal granite]

like this

[stiff pine]

And it blew up and kinda flopped there and we couldn't get in

And you can't call another

So we just black hawk downed

Tbf it was cool

[lethal granite]

yeah at that point youre playing the last mission of halo reach

hitting level 10 feels like the "okay now this is firepower" benchmark

walking barrage really has some heat on it

[candid finch]

watching the world go by

[hot meadow]

Thanks for the answers about the automaton tanks folks! I apppreciate it.

[graceful bluff]

<@&1206091872716595200> Need one more for sample farming(commons)

[sinful bay]

Reminds me of an awesome animation

[quick plinth]

https://youtu.be/5pTCxSWDXCY

[sinful bay]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1QRZki3zb8

[keen zinc]

Good news: steam deck runs Helldivers 2

Bad news:

Cannot extract

[graceful bluff]

Pelicans tired of your shit

enter it normally :v

[blissful sparrow]

the servers are supremely fucked today tbh

and i had that bug before too

and in our last mission i just couldn't be revived 😄

[wide mural]

every time that's happened to me it's because one of my friends decided to be funny and hit the pelican with an orbital or a supply pod or a reinforcement pod or something

[keen zinc]

But I did collect like 11 samples off a trivial so

I feel entirely justified in prioritizing Supers over Commons for 7+ diff missions

[sinful bay]

Is anyone else having this or is my internet being garbo?

[strange vine]

it sometimes happens to me, i just keep trying to launch til it works

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJs_kqHrzzQ

[sinful bay]

thank ya

[ivory swallow]

||oh||

||what if the forerunners lost to the flood huh||

[glad marsh]

I guess that one model is uh.. yeah.
Very clearly ||an illuminate with some terminid mixed in?||

||if they're anything like the first game, people are gonna hate fighting them at first lmao||

[blissful sparrow]

its fine, we are already used to hunters

[glacial light]

Illuminate charger Hulk which is tanky, has one shot explosive projectile, can teleport, and cloaking

[ivory swallow]

Yeah I was curious how they were gonna change illuminate up, I doubted we were gonna be fighting the white orbs. I don’t think that would translate well to third person

[glad marsh]

Well there are models for those horrible invisible scout things that call in reinforcements

But the tripods used to be like
Their main line troop
Not a big tanky special unit

Here it looks like they're gonna be the heavy thing

[ivory swallow]

I haven’t seen the vid yet

[graceful bluff]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/329759787896012802/1216518176964218880/LmvEul64oP3sPHcV.mp4?ex=6600add7&is=65ee38d7&hm=0a31551d61f0d98aa0eaafcfd2e9ae6423a02262a8d104cd99a6ec6a868d01a1&

[velvet pollen]

when lancer tactics is done its gonna revolutionize the field of actually getting to play lancer

[lethal granite]

lol maybe

[sinful bay]

PPPFFFF Sad but true

Hope the guy can use the same engine to make Icon too

[graceful bluff]

It checks if you've ever used compcon and if you have it doesn't allow you to play

[strange vine]

https://vxtwitter.com/Network_Synth/status/1766644425701097885

[strange vine]

the main dev's a lady i believe

#1079952007915376711 posts dev stuff here!

[sinful bay]

Thank ya!

[fringe quiver]

How well does it run?

[keen zinc]

Surprisingly

On low settings

Course I am totally not used to playing a shooter on controller so

[quick plinth]

though

I'd argue this is one of the premiere games to learn how to

(I haven't used a controller for shooters till about a couple of months ago when I injuired my tendons due to poor ergonomics, and in helldivers I haven't really felt that limited due to a lack of precision which is usually a given with a mouse)

[keen zinc]

It's less about precision and more about reaction time

<@&1206091872716595200> democracy crusade in 30?

[fringe quiver]

Apologies, I more meant what fps

Mainly cause uhh

I'm getting 40ish on my laptop that has a 1060 max q

[keen zinc]

Idk

[fringe quiver]

Ahh kk

No worries

[undone veldt]

I am now a proud citizen of super earth

[strange vine]

man talking with some others i realized

helldivers 2 is really close to the PvE-only extraction shooter i want

like the main change would be the goodies and stuff you can loot in mission mattering more in terms of your progression

obviously helldivers 2 is a completely different game from an extraction shooter

but like, the idea of a semi-randomized open world-ish map with various POI that you can explore while also helping random players with their own stuff for rewards and goodies you extract with

sounds so fun to me

[lethal granite]

the autocannon is so hype

using it versus bugs is such a good time

i will still take recoiless vs bots but autocannon goes so hard for bugs

[glacial light]

As for extraction shooters Helldivers is creeping up on Payday 2 for me

It's more my game of power fantasy and explosives

[sinful bay]

Ok uuuhn
How this can work, because is slow and i dont know one handed weapons very much

but i love shields :3

[daring monolith]

Autocannon is really good vs bots.

[meager saffron]

it goes onto your back while you're wielding a two-handed weapon

and does protect you from back.......... fire while that's the case

[wide mural]

smg primary is one handed, otherwise it's just secondaries which is more limited

[sinful bay]

oh cool!

[meager saffron]

I think there's another one-handed primary but the defender is a+++

great gun all-round thhat happens to also synergise very well with the ballistic shield

since you don't have the better energy shield version it'll do you well as far as stopping you from being one-shot by rockets, just remember that it falls off whenever you get ragdolled

[sinful bay]

:3c

[meager saffron]

so you'll have to pick it up again

[sinful bay]

sounds perfect thank you

[meager saffron]

it also makes ads a bit of a pain

since you aim through the slit in the shield

[oblique lotus]

it's also not invulnerable

[meager saffron]

but you still get the laser sight

so use that to aim instead of the reticle you might be expecting

[keen zinc]

it does not slow you down

that video is a lie

you can sprint with it

[meager saffron]

with it held in front or just carried on the back

[keen zinc]

both

i love it vs automatons

but jump pack owns my backpack slot

[meager saffron]

huh

I guess I just didn't run the ballistic that much after I got the shield gen

shame

it would be super funny if it just outright deflected attacks

[velvet pollen]

the other one is an smg you get for super citizen, but its basically just worse than the defender

[meager saffron]

not a huge surprise

the defender is a crazy gun

you'd need to put the r-99 or something into this game to even have a chance of topping it

[velvet pollen]

the defender is the liberator but better yeah its silly

good pick tho even if i usually take other ones now

[meager saffron]

I've been super in love with the slugger but I admit I am just chaperone-pilled

I do really miss the crowd control of the defender/lib a lot

[velvet pollen]

yeah slugger was already good and the extra ammo makes it great

i take a nade boost armor usually so my crowd control is pressing g

that or im running breaker or spray and pray so crowd control is free

[meager saffron]

I love my crutches so I'm basically welded inside my light medic armor

more impacts is super tempting though

when light grenade armor rolls back around I'll probably pick it up

[velvet pollen]

i never take the medic armor because my deaths usually arent from running out of stims, theyre from instakill or stunlock mechanics where more stims would never have saved me

[undone veldt]

Ok so I’ve run a few missions today

I’m level 4 and I’m really liking the disposable anti tank

[meager saffron]

the EAT is fuckin goated at low levels

[undone veldt]

and the pump shotgun is so nice against automatons

[alpine seal]

the draw of medic armors is less quantity more quality in my experience

[meager saffron]

the EAT is your best friend

[undone veldt]

It staggers them so well

[honest acorn]

I don’t think the defender is better than the liberator

I think it’s just better at short range

[alpine seal]

2 seconds more of effective invincibility can save you against hunters

[meager saffron]

I think it's a little weird that the defender is the more accurate slow-firing weapon than the AR

[honest acorn]

The liberator lowkey has a great optic and great ballistics at range

[meager saffron]

but the lib also doesn't have apex drop like the defender does

[honest acorn]

EAT honestly stays pretty goated

[velvet pollen]

im Aiming Georg and simply unaffected by bad optics/irons so idk ymmv ig

i pop flawless noscopes with the AMR too

[alpine seal]

that and getting dropped into a pub where no one picked space optimization for some reason

[velvet pollen]

my secret is having enough hours in post void that i stopped looking at reticles/irons and started just centering heads in my screen

[honest acorn]

It’s also got weird dispersion and drop at long range - but that only really matters vs bots

[alpine seal]

you may not notice 4 to 6 stims but you'll notice 2 to 4

[meager saffron]

in fairness vs bots is where it really matters

[velvet pollen]

i play almost exclusively with the homies, sparing me from this hellish existence 🐱

[alpine seal]

i mostly use extra grenades or the light gunner armor myself but explaining the reasoning for medkit. for bots i'll never switch off the explosive resistant light armor though, been hit with one too many rockets

[honest acorn]

Yeah I still run the lib-P vs bots most of the time for its well roundedness

Yeah it’s very hard to justify not having explosive resist vs them for me

Saves against a lot of annoying deaths

[velvet pollen]

rocket devies got me using the amr on bot missions

[meager saffron]

the sheer tilt factor of robot backshots is unmatched

[velvet pollen]

one or two to the pods pops them

[honest acorn]

Yeah the AMR is great vs bots

[velvet pollen]

idk if the amr got buffed but its way better than i thought initially, against bots, in general

[meager saffron]

not since trials have I been decapitated for peeking in 0.00001s

[honest acorn]

I think it was hugely slept up during the Railgun Era

[velvet pollen]

it can like three shot hulks if you're good at face plate shots

[meager saffron]

yeah that's basically it

both of them competed

[honest acorn]

Kills anything but tanks and turrets well

[meager saffron]

and the AMR has way harsher recoil and worse ergo due to the sens cap

[velvet pollen]

amr could do with a third person reti

[meager saffron]

god dammit I want to flick with my sniper

[velvet pollen]

even as a Notable Noscoper,

[honest acorn]

It’s weird that it doesn’t get one

[meager saffron]

yeah idk why games insist on saying 'no reti for snipers >:(' when you can just put a fucking marker dot on your monitor

[honest acorn]

Feels unnecessary

[meager saffron]

they do it all the time and it's completely pointless

[undone veldt]

Also I’ve got a question, how do I ping on the map? Because whenever I open the map the mouse still just moves the camera and not the map

[meager saffron]

I also have this question ngl

[velvet pollen]

hold down right click

[meager saffron]

people said 'right mouse button' but that just scopes

[velvet pollen]

when the map is open

[undone veldt]

Oh thanks

[velvet pollen]

then click where you wanna ping

left click i mean

[honest acorn]

God the controllers controls actually so much better there

D-pad or touchpad control the map when it’s open

[glacial light]

Parrying a devastator rocket back at them

[meager saffron]

you melee with the shield up and get a deflecting shieldbash instead

play tennis with the rocket dev

[keen zinc]

then a heavy dev dives in front and parrys it back

[glacial light]

https://www.vxtiktok.com/t/ZTL8sCYqV/

[meager saffron]

make it work like lethal league where it increases damage and speed each time you hit it

use a heavy dev as your stationary wall, then flick it into a tank and instantly crash the game with the explosion size

[rotund marten]

<@&1206091872716595200> running one op before bed if anyone wants to join

[cerulean sluice]

I'm down

[glacial light]

I could do a mission or 2 if needing a 4th

[rotund marten]

come join the diff 7

shouldn't be too tricky, rolled three easy missions

[glacial light]

5810-2443

[strange vine]

important thing is that call ins after you drop after the first one will attract patrols

[quick crown]

I love using it but i'm a pad player so when i do stratcallins they end up getting eaten since they share down on the dpad

I need to find a good replacement for that keybind

[barren warren]

Same issue

I use a controller but im too lazy to rebind

[honest acorn]

Huh I have not had this issue

[glacial light]

I don't think I like laser cause I'm mostly bad with it, I'm thinking between railgun or EATs for support weapon. Combined with punisher, heavy explosive armor, railcannon, 110 rockets x3, shield

Is railgun safe useful against bots? I am bad at timing charging stuff while panicked

[honest acorn]

It takes out devastators pretty well

I forget if it still 1 shots scout walkers on safe

[wind arrow]

it's my main backpack slot'

[glacial light]

I'm also deciding whether if I want to just be a big game hunter type and be a tank and hull killing monster or balance things out and swap rocket or railcannon for something else

Rockets x3 makes tanks a cakewalk but iffy on hulks, railcannon can actually take out hulks and tank

[honest acorn]

For bots I like to use airstrike or gas strike and rockets

Rockets are "good enough" and have a lot more uptime

[glacial light]

When I played earlier I was dropping tanks as soon as they came in with rockets and on a 240s rearm there was hardly any tanks in play

At diff 7

Hulks I had to wait on railcannon or teammates

[honest acorn]

Hulks I usually just try for an eyeshot

[glacial light]

Does gas kill bots quick?

[honest acorn]

very

struggles to kill devastators some but that's it

And they have a habit of marching into it, yielding really huge killcounts if you place it well

[glacial light]

I want to give up shield for a 3rd orbital but having a chance to negate a rocket devastators knockback has grown on me

It's less so a shield to stop damage but to stop being thrown into a rock and being one shot in heavy armor by physics

[velvet pollen]

Unsafe is pretty... Safe lol, you just gotta shoot it before about five and a half seconds

It also charges faster so there's no real reason not to use it in unsafe

[glacial light]

Maybe I'll do a niche balanced team build. Shield, railgun, rocket, gas

[stone bridge]

Gas has a very whacky uptime too

75s CD is bloody chipper

[meager saffron]

slightly higher than a minute with the cd upgrade

[glacial light]

Shield to survive cause with bots and heavy explosive armor I consistently have half the deaths despite being worse than my teammates thanks to tanking devastators and other one shots
Railgun - kill hulks and devastators to protect my squishy teammates
Rocket- kill tanks like crazy so teammates can focus on hulks
Gas- ad clear and dropships

I think thays going to be my next bot loadout

75s cooldown sounds amazing

It might become my new EATs

I assume it's also good against bugs

[stone bridge]

Yeah Gas rules vs bugs

[meager saffron]

throw onto breach

go to sleep

wake up five minutes later refreshed

[stone bridge]

Throw one on a bug breach and it solves 75% of your isssues

[meager saffron]

wombo combo with EMS and/or eagle strats for even more killitude

[stone bridge]

My typical loadout for bugs these days is Clusters, 500kg, Autocannon, Gas

Though I'm thinking about replacing Clusters with Airstrike for extra Bile killing

[meager saffron]

airstrike also a bit less fickle when deciding to tk

[cobalt patrol]

Briar is very fond of squishing me with the clusters XD

[stone bridge]

Lmao

They have a truly ludicrous amount of horizontal reach

and you have random ricochets expanding the area

I have been straight up robbed at the end of a mission before by calling in a danger close cluster I'd normally be perfectly safe from because I had plenty of clearance

And then had an errant cluster charge ricochet off a nearby rock face and directly into me

[cobalt patrol]

Briar: I have made many mistakes.

[honest acorn]

I've been a fan of napalm or tesla for bugs lately

I like how well the tesla covers a retreat

Though crushers tend to kill them pretty fast

Which sort of sucks

[cobalt patrol]

my bug loadout is Flamethrower, Slugger, Impact, EAT, 500kg, Shield.

[honest acorn]

Sentries in general are something I've been sleeping on though

[stone bridge]

Crushers give extremely high priority to killing sentries

[honest acorn]

That's fairly similar to mine

[stone bridge]

Its annoying

[cobalt patrol]

and then i just sit on the frontlines or covering the retreat turning everything into a bbq.

[honest acorn]

AC sentry beats their asses at least

1 burst=1 dead crusher in most cases

Now that I have a lot of their upgrades I've been using sentries a lot

Since I find they can kill way most bugs than pretty much any red and draw aggro

Just need to be careful with placing them because their lead faucet is rated E for everything

I've been running gatling+AC+mechs+rockets lately

[stone bridge]

Yeah sentries really whip ass

While we have no Strat launcher for the mech, sentries pair really well with it

Since they're pure fire and forget

[honest acorn]

Yeah and if I'm meching I can usually get by without a backpack or support weapon for a while

[stone bridge]

Its funny to think we have the weakest version of the mech and it's still pretty fire

[mortal wing]

What primary do you all usually go with for bots?

[honest acorn]

Yeah after the first time I popped a leg on a charger and instantly killed it with the minigun I was sold

I generally use the liberator penetrator

Or the breaker if I am Mad About Berserkers

[mortal wing]

I can see them nerfing rocket capacity on it tbh

[wind arrow]

level still low, tend to just rock the diligence

[stone bridge]

I don't think they will until the patch reducing heavy numbers happens, if at all

Its a 2x mission call down, it should be powerful proportional to that (very)

[mortal wing]

one "problem" I have with mechs is that I keep running out of machinegun ammo before rockets

[stone bridge]

The other mission limited stratagem is autonomous death on a grand scale

[velvet pollen]

Theyd have to change the model to nerf the rocket count lol

[velvet pollen]

I usually have the opposite problem but I treat them as disposable and fire off the ordinance asap

[dusky solar]

give us a laser cannon mech

:3

honestly the mechs feel super smooth and intuitive to control. less clunky than like, mechwarrior haha

[mortal wing]

Just comes with some ammo already spent, ask no questions, move along citizen

It wasn't used up for fishing

I wish we could use map in mechs without mech weapons being active

attempts to mark something on the map

fires a rocket at a rock point blank

[stone bridge]

That's a bug and will be fixed, I imagine

[velvet pollen]

mechwarrior is clunky on purpose and its part of the appeal imo

[dusky solar]

indeed!

[velvet pollen]

mw's mechs are also generally much, much larger than helldivers tho

[dusky solar]

i have like, 300 hours in roguetech and super modded mw5

XD

[glad marsh]

Exterminated, more like

[rotund marten]

The Helldiver mechs are very much the Armoured Core MT experience

right down to having surprisingly effective rockets

[glad marsh]

Battlemechs are very much tanks on legs (with arms), control like it too
Helldiver exosuits are more like turrets with legs, to me

[velvet pollen]

My tank on legs when I pop masc and hit 178kmh

[granite rivet]

complete with being made of explodium sometimes

[glad marsh]

you roll a 1 and your mech immediately falls over and explodes

Hmm
Well actually that's impossible but we're gonna ignore that

Because you'll totally fall over the next time you'd need to roll for it

[velvet pollen]

I'm talking Abt my mwo flea tho

[glad marsh]

Ahh
That's
A videogame

I do not know how MASC works in the games lol

Other than make you zippy

[true smelt]

two rockets to the head drops a bile titan

[velvet pollen]

You get a timed sprint and if you go over it starts doing structure damage on your legs until they pop

[glad marsh]

Ah

[glad marsh]

That tracks, the recoilless and EAT do about the same too (though I suspect the EAT does slightly more damage)

[rich marlin]

time to grind POIs

[cobalt patrol]

https://youtu.be/2t4K_81w6ys

[lethal granite]

Autocannon today felt kinda goat'd

This might be the go to support piece

I can break down chargers with relative ease

[meager saffron]

autocannon is apeshit

[glad marsh]

It's my favourite thing against bots
So bloody useful

[lethal granite]

I just find it has a nice balance of "scoped enough for snipin armor" and enough firepower that it's like "yeah tanks and armor should fear this and the eagle + orbital strikes that may come with"

Fire rate is good, reload isn't terrible (i cannot tell if it is actually diff than recoiless), and has all the bells and whistles of a meaty AT weap

[blissful sparrow]

it uses 5 round stripper clips, so if you reload between 5 and 1 rounds left you only top it off which is super fast even solo compared to the full reload

[lethal granite]

Yeah i noticed that it was filling part the mag and i didnt want to break the animation just because 1.) Had no reason to 2.) I figured it wouldnt need to go through a racking animation of some sort if i only half loaded it but i wouldnt want to hamstring myself potentially (the bots are in the trees) and be caught lackin

I still wany to try the spear when i unlock it but for now the autocannon really is one stallion of a workhorse

[meager saffron]

the tac reload on the autocannon is so nuts

keeps it handily above recoilless for me in 99% of situations

[glad marsh]

^^^^

Recoilless like
It kills things good but the reload time without a friend is atrocious

Whereas you get like 5x the shots with an autocannon and it'll handily beat anything you can hit in the right spot

[quick plinth]

its better to constantly call in EATs than use RR

[glad marsh]

The big draw is that you can actually use the reload on the AC too

[glad marsh]

Oh for sure

[quick plinth]

like the RR is that bad when it comes to solo use

I'd rather have silghtly less avilabale ammo immedately

than have to fkn time my reloads perfectly between getting swarmed

on bots its easier

since you can theoretically take cover

[stone bridge]

With a loader RR is wild good though

[glad marsh]

Everyone I've played with has been annoyed to be a loader

[meager saffron]

yeah the coordination required especially in scrambles is brutal

[stone bridge]

Play with me then lmao

I'll gladly do it

[glad marsh]

:0

[stone bridge]

If people are annoyed to be a loader they gotta suck it up

[meager saffron]

it seems aite if you can squad up though

[stone bridge]

Yeah it's not something I'd do with randoms, to be 100% clear

[meager saffron]

you have a death ray pointing in one direction and one guy chained to them unable to fire lest they tank the dps, so the other two have got to keep crowd control up

[stone bridge]

The secret with loading is that you don't need to continuously be loading unless it's like, a Bile Titan

Just load the gunner at some point after firing

[glad marsh]

Have a friend to pop in and load when you need it, not be attached to you like a symbiotic organism

[dusky solar]

I am posting my own meme

For Democracy

[copper crest]

I remember watching friends in a duo do RR and AC and loading each other and when things went smooth it was fucking amazing

[meager saffron]

I would rather have a GL or railgun to round things out personally

in part because one of the coolest things you can do in this game is run RR and an ammo backpack

[stone bridge]

Yeah, keeping the launcher fed is hella

You can even run Flamer into bugs

[meager saffron]

anything that keeps the back free which is why I'm a little hesitant to say flamer

[dusky solar]

Preach the GL word. I got addicted to GL + jetpack over the course of the afternoon today

I was doing level 7 bugs for the first time, just yolo swagging into heavy nests and blasting all the holes closed in seconds before jumping out

Incredible efficiency

[meager saffron]

I GOT A GLOCK IN MY RARI

[stone bridge]

I think you can make it work well sans shield as long as you're careful and swap off to a primary when you have flaming hunters going at you

Breaker or Spray & Prey will mince everything that gets that close in shockingly short order

[meager saffron]

it's not mandatory but certainly nobody's complaining

[cobalt patrol]

@stone bridge @meager saffron How about some of that... helldivin

[stone bridge]

I might be around later but I'm decompressing after work rn

[cobalt patrol]

Fair, fair