Helldivers 2: For Managed Democracy!

[barren iron]

BREAKING NEWS

[modest fiber]

urge to know more intensifies

[alpine seal]

% per hour the liberation percent goes down

[cobalt patrol]

Uuuugh, long covid is arse ;.;

that is all.

[eager pine]

Apparently atm you can just find them abandoned on maps occasionally.

[stone bridge]

Sending the power of democracy to guarantee a swift recovery, friend

[cobalt patrol]

I'm grumpy because i went out to do computer hopping today, pickedu p some stuff, got a routine blood test, walked a dog.

So out ofthe house for like 2 hours etc.

That was enough for me to have to go crash in bed after the dog walk, and then wake up just a bit ago now with painful sinsues, mad post naal drip etc. Just uuugh

[stone bridge]

Argh that sucks

[keen zinc]

Me yesterday

I swear they have velociraptor-esque ambush tacticss

[steady bone]

They need to show where the storms are happening on the map.

[junior badge]

So I've discovered a weird bug / edge case.

My fancy gamer mouse comes with different side panels, which I promptly never used until helldivers. One side panel has 12 buttons, corresponding to the top row of the keyboard, ending in ^ ` and so on.

I can bind the stratagem arrows to those keys, and use my thumb to enter the codes while still running around, looking around etc - very nice.

But the non-number ones always get rebound to something else on restarting the game.

The one that's ostensibly on 8, that one stays.

The other ones end up on a consistent set of other keys that feels really random.

I have a suspicion that it gets bound to "key xxx", but stored as "key ^" and then on restart, my computer, having a different layout than the devs, translates that back to "key yyy" instead.

[autumn plover]

Random but I love that diver mechs are very dreadnought shaped

[strange vine]

https://www.rxddit.com/r/Helldivers/comments/1b9higp/i_found_a_mech_it_didnt_last_long/

[graceful bluff]

They chonky bois yeah

[steady bone]

Game really went "no."

[graceful bluff]

<@&1206091872716595200> Robot waterworld anyone?

[burnt vapor]

I could suffer a bit

[keen zinc]

sure

[candid finch]

That's the saddest nooooooo

[idle hollow]

just got the heeth angels venture medals

[hexed steeple]

lets go

[idle hollow]

Finally finished off page 7

[thorn inlet]

https://youtu.be/I0gNVyMXndU?si=bJn3AJkb5bt1CuBm

[junior badge]

https://youtu.be/sWQxg5mIzT8?si=7QbQBbF_CeyBdvNa

Most of this is fairly well known, but the PS5 railgun... bug, exploit, thing? that's interesting.

Apparently having a PS5 player in the game does something wacky to the railgun, which allows it to consistently two-shot titans.

People are raging about how that's clearly the only reason the railgun got RUINED, of course, but I wouldn't be surprised if it did get treated at least a bit more harshly due to this effect.

[steady bone]

so the meta now requires a PS5 player in the game.

[keen zinc]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kwd9vYP59m0

[quick crown]

Aesop rock rules

[keen zinc]

my helldivers soundtrack

Racing Stripes is my latest brainworm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqY__-VaRWw

Aes is a fucking lyrical master

[crystal canopy]

anyone lfg

[graceful bluff]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqIPDePRi9A

[junior badge]

I'm down

[crystal canopy]

gimme 5 minutes

trying to clear a stage in sifu and then i can join

[unreal merlin]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1208390071074562139/1215631143555305482/image.png?ex=65fd73b9&is=65eafeb9&hm=67fffe8e38591772f1ecafaecb68515ab372478e1af19c59ba515100e876eb80&

What happened while I was asleep...

[stark ether]

tien kwan

[unreal merlin]

We lost over 60% liberation progress...

[stark ether]

bots have -6.5/hr on all planets

[unreal merlin]

Sweet Liberty, no...

[barren warren]

https://vxtwitter.com/Heartbreak_Juan/status/1765985416757518473?t=lhyvlPZPDsHO4I8NWyGlaQ&s=19

[junior badge]

aw balls, I found a mech and as soon as I press fire it just explodes

[autumn plover]

Rip

[junior badge]

oooh

[true smelt]

It's so silly that people are so mad about the new patch

[idle hollow]

we must liberate tien kwan so i can get me tian qiang

[junior badge]

yeah, especially because the railgun is still very good

[idle hollow]

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/armoredcore/images/1/1b/Screenshot_ACVI_Frame_set_TIAN-QIANG.png/revision/latest?cb=20230923074829

[idle hollow]

had one of my friends say it's literally baby mode

which is correct

it is

[true smelt]

It's like people don't know how to set it to unsafe mode

[junior badge]

I mean, tbf, the game is bad at explaining that!

[idle hollow]

it's uh

it's stuck at 99%

hm

[stark ether]

its complete, just gotta mission cycle to resync on your end

[junior badge]

But even on safe, it's still useful

[meager sandal]

So will mechs be a stratagem or a new thing at seaf outposts

[junior badge]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

probably strats, but we don't know yet

[stark ether]

spensive

and yes that is my screenshot

[candid finch]

spensive

[idle hollow]

https://tenor.com/view/armored-core-server-this-is-now-an-armored-core-themed-server-gif-26370378

[barren iron]

WAIT FR

[idle hollow]

The test is over. From this moment on, you are a Raven.

[stark ether]

yes

[rich marlin]

You got the cash so dole out for it or else 🔫

Jk, that is a very expensive weapon.

[wraith furnace]

It IS a mech

[stark ether]

i mean i was at cap with nothing else to spend it on

[idle hollow]

IF THEY WANT WAR

WE'LL GIVE EM WAR

[true smelt]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Wp3t9Nwjr_8&pp=ygUebWVjaGFuaXplZCBtZW1vcmllcyBpbiB0aGUgZW5k

[idle hollow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jthXb99iZk

[idle hollow]

IT'S PEAK

IT'S SO FUCKING PEAK 🥹

[dusty spruce]

We can buy the mechs now?
Finally! I’ve been stuck at max Reqs for far too long

[junior badge]

why is this on Tien Kwan?!

[barren iron]

YEAHHHHHHH

MECH

[true smelt]

14 missles and 1000 bullets goddamn

[true smelt]

What's the cool down time?

[barren iron]

9 mins

only 2 per mission

[wraith furnace]

That's with full upgrades eh

[hexed steeple]

we're actually all getting the mech temporarily as a free stratagem

[stark ether]

from what i saw the mech benefits from no upgrades

[true smelt]

There will likely be more mech types

[stark ether]

one can only hope

[wraith furnace]

Turning Helldivers into Mechwarrior moment

[true smelt]

In the first game there were 3

[barren iron]

patriot exosuit has no upgrades rn

[upbeat vector]

:\

It unlocks at lvl 25

[barren iron]

it's free rn

as in, everyone gets it rn

I am hearing they are way better vs bugs

than against bots

because bots have anti tank

[naive dragon]

Mixed hostile worlds when

[unreal merlin]

Naturally the bugs are more vulnerable to the walking gun turret than the bots who can actually shoot back at it

[true smelt]

Begging people to use EMS on the robots

[cobalt patrol]

lol the servers are getting slammed

[naive dragon]

EMS is so fun and I've been running it aside arc and tesla tower, just make sure your friends know where to Not Be

[cobalt patrol]

Or i just can't log in for some reason?

[naive dragon]

Need my stun grenades I want to be the Helldivers Electrician

[kindred lintel]

same here, its a login limit

[ivory swallow]

you should be able to drop in already in your mech

[quick plinth]

<@&1206091872716595200> who wants to join me in the mech rollout?

[ivory swallow]

Yeah the servers are getting slammed

[quick plinth]

yeah

[honest acorn]

Glad I’m not playing until this evening

[autumn plover]

Lol

[barren iron]

so many civilians in this escort mission died

that we got

no rewards

[dusty spruce]

lmao

Lots of mortars?

[graceful bluff]

One thing I hope for the sake of pubs though, is that your mech is locked until you've entered and exited it once

considering how often pubs steal shit

[dusty spruce]

If it’s currently a free drop for everyone, stealing should (hopefully) be infrequent.

[keen zinc]

I joined an SOS and drop podded in and destroyed a dudes mech right as it landed

I tried to give him mine but he was frozen staring at his destroyed mech and then disconnected

[steady bone]

Honestly fair sorta.

[barren iron]

considering the free drop is 1 use per mission only

[keen zinc]

I didn't mean to

[quick crown]

wait did they bring back this?

[keen zinc]

I was spamming "I'm sorry" and tagging my mech

[quick crown]

[keen zinc]

And said he could have mine

[steady bone]

oh no no I'm not giving you shit.

You did -nothing-

the game genuinely just went "no."

[keen zinc]

I don't think so

It'll probably be added on Liberty Day

Oct 26th

Same as before

[cobalt patrol]

https://preview.redd.it/76ek4e9z15nc1.png?width=1916&format=png&auto=webp&s=4ee563405d581fc6f06b5cee5b408fcbc665e59b

Sneaky.

[golden ledge]

That's been in since launch

[quick plinth]

<@&1206091872716595200> I'm once again asking for more mech pilots

[cobalt patrol]

You're gonna have shit luck, the servers are on fire

[honest acorn]

I’ve heard they’ve outright crashed

The gamers long for the mechs

[autumn plover]

Divers server expansion round two lol

[cobalt patrol]

It seems that way, it's not showing a cue, just a flatout error

[stark ether]

perfect time to go eeps

[cobalt patrol]

https://old.reddit.com/r/Helldivers/comments/1b9jr4q/you_can_do_some_really_cool_plays_with_the_jump/

Have soemone being an excellent showoff with the LASOR

[quick plinth]

penguin

I'm begging you to use rxddit links so they embed properly

[keen zinc]

I wonder how the new warbond drop is gonna go

[dusty spruce]

May be a little smoother, since I am uncertain how many people have 1000 SC saved up/will buy immediately

[cobalt patrol]

They embed fine on my end, and i'm really not going to bother editing the link lke that instead of just copy/pasting.

[quick plinth]

:/ is it though?
when the video don't play

[vestal trail]

The rxddit link would let people play the video in discord instead of having to open a link tho

[modest fiber]

oh i gotta start looking for super credits again

[thorn inlet]

Can you chuck strategems out of the mech suit like you could in the first game?

[vestal trail]

Nope

[thorn inlet]

Tragic

[vestal trail]

It's deffo something that makes me personally averse to them

[honest acorn]

Oh man

[steady bone]

the mech suit should hold up it's own arm and input the strategems and throw them like the player would

[vestal trail]

Also Tesla Turrets (and presumably Arc Throwers) can just Snap Crackle Pop! you while inside the mech

[honest acorn]

Mechs being a bulletproof way to launch strats was one of my favorite things about them in 1

[graceful bluff]

my problem with the mech is that I'm not sure what I'd replace

[honest acorn]

That feels like it might be a bug

[graceful bluff]

my usual picks are autocannon, autocannon turrets, rockets, 500kg

[oblique storm]

Turrets probably

[graceful bluff]

turret is amazing stealth though

as long as you're not spotted, they won't call in backup on a turret

[unreal merlin]

Autocannon turret thrown up on a hill as you're approaching an outpost is very powerful

[graceful bluff]

like out of all of these the turret is probably the last I'd remove

[barren warren]

if only helldivers 2 would let me in

alas

[quick plinth]

I was in

it kinda sucked

I can't claim anything or get any upgrades

and the mech is frankly underwhelming a bit

but its just that I probably hyped it up in my mind

[hexed steeple]

i love my mech i've accidentally killed myself twice with it cause i fired the rockets into the floor while trying to tag sometrhing on the map. i love my mech

[vestal trail]

The mech feels like there's unreleased things that'll bump it up, but I'm currently of the same mind

[barren warren]

lucky for me i dont care if somethings good, just if its cool

and mechs are cool

[rich marlin]

I also think in an in universe sense hyping up these mediocre mechs FOR DEMOCRACY is completely on brand for the universe

They probably have their uses but i don't see em being as useful as say, Titanfall titans

[dusty spruce]

Maybe when all the vehicles release we’ll get a Vehicle Bay that buffs mech and cars

[graceful bluff]

I feel like the early mech release was because of the hackers

[strange vine]

mechs are gonna be good for holding an objective and pushing into resistance

[strange vine]

there were like extra upgrade stuff that was in trailer we didnt have yet

also theres a vehicle bay

[cobalt patrol]

They've been clear the mechs have been done since before release basically

and the main issue was the servers catching on fire

[graceful bluff]

Yeah I'm saying that them releasing the mechs earlier while the vehicle bay upgrades etc weren't finished is due to hackers spawning them in so much

[cobalt patrol]

Nah, i doubt that.

It's pretty clear they have a plan with content releases and that ties into them having a dedicated GM team for the game

hackers could spawn the mechs in because the data was loaded in and ready to go.

[tidal wing]

with everything the relatively small team has had to deal with in the past month it would be fairly incredible if they also had time to rush forward a major content release like that on such short notice

[limber pike]

I am sure the hackers didn’t help but the main issue was clearly the population growth and servers being thus set on fire

[graceful bluff]

That's why I'm saying they rushed in one of like four vehicles and none of the upgrades

since hackers already ruined the surprise

[lethal dagger]

if i was on the moderation team for the discord i would be hitting the ban button 24/7

[graceful bluff]

I feel like them appearing in missions was supposed to happen for a lot longer

[limber pike]

They clearly have more vehicles and Exo patriot variants planned with upgrades bay but who knows what’s going on behind the scenes

[cobalt patrol]

But your only proof is "None of the upgrades", like, it would fit the cadence etc and the tone for them to go "here's mech! another mech! vehciles! super earth has finally realized we need to upgrade them!"

It makes a lot more sense to drip-feed this stuff, both from a sensible game production standpoint

and from a "Make sure our GMs have fun toys to play with"

eg i think one of the mechs is double-machine guns or whatever, i'd bet we get a bot push

or it gets tied in to the Illuminate (who rumors from playtesters etc point to being ready to go as well)

[dusty spruce]

By the devs own words, they were gonna come much sooner, but the whole… release servers happened

[stone bridge]

The existence of mechs has never been a surprise, they were shown at the end of the last PlayStation trailer

[limber pike]

I’m surprised by the jeep and APCs

[graceful bluff]

I mean the surprise that mechs were ready and will probably start appearing in missions

[honest acorn]

I'm mildly surprised by the jeep since iirc it was a motorcycle and sidecar in HD1

[strange vine]

double autocannons

[stone bridge]

I feel like that's kind of a tinfoil hat theory ngl

[limber pike]

I hope they bring that back lol

[stone bridge]

The event is just to build hype and momentum for the content drop next week, imo

[honest acorn]

same it'll be much funnier to operate how that you can flip it

[dusty spruce]

That would be accurate if the ones people modded in weren’t incomplete, lacking UI features. They were released when they were ready

[graceful bluff]

you better be able to roadkill with the jeep

[honest acorn]

Honestly this stuff is great live service stuff

"Hey want a cool new thing? Go liberate the planet that makes em!"

[stone bridge]

We will 200% be getting all the vehicles and a dedicated vehicle bay on the patch drop, if not sooner

[graceful bluff]

give the jeep a boost mode and lemme just tear ass through a group of 30 basic bots

[stone bridge]

This is basically a playable trailer

[limber pike]

This I feel the next 3 weeks we’re going to start seeing all the leaked vehicles

[honest acorn]

the really chad thing would be to take people's mechs away if we fail a defense mission on Tien Kwan later

[tidal wing]

for the second time I haven't gotten my medals from the major order completion ;___;

Joel owes me 60 now

[stone bridge]

I think it'll be sooner rather than later

Tbh

[dusty spruce]

Think they’ll keep running little Major orders that give us new stuff?

Gotta keep the Bugs from stealing our Dune Buggies meant for Errata Prime?

[limber pike]

Dang if one new mech can crash the servers again lord knows what will happen when an even bigger content drop occurs lol 😂

[stone bridge]

That, or they'll just push it all out in one go after the initial hype for mechs drops off to keep momentum going and introduce the Vehicle Bay modules

Every Strat in the game has at least one upgrade

You can bet if they're introducing an entirely new class of them, there'll be upgrades to go with

[honest acorn]

The mechs were also pretty upgrade reliant in 1

The walker really wanted its MK3 upgrade because it made the missiles anti-tank

[barren warren]

oh its not just me, good

[mortal wing]

Mechs seem to do well against chargers

[stone bridge]

I figure they'll have to be a bit more generic this go around, but even if its just what I think it'll be (-Cooldown, +Health, +Ammo) that'll make a substantial difference

[barren warren]

i figured id missed them cuz i wasnt logged in enough or something

[limber pike]

During the game snippets you can see the mech shoot down a drop ship which is a good sign of overall utility

[tidal wing]

everyone should be getting medals when the major orders are successfully completed but I keep seeing a bunch of people who also haven't

[stone bridge]

Oh hell, they can shoot down dropships?

[mortal wing]

Mech rocket seems to be on level of EAT or recoiless

[honest acorn]

That's good

[stone bridge]

Kinda huge by itself

[dusty spruce]

They kill bikes quickly too

*biles

[honest acorn]

They were honestly too piddly in HD1

[barren warren]

yeah i was really banking on all those extra medals to buy the medium armor penetrating gun

[tidal wing]

it's okay but it really is not what I was hoping for

[stone bridge]

14 rockets you can shoot on the move with no need to reload is fucking jacked

[barren warren]

i just want medalsssss

[tidal wing]

when I have to put four bursts into a Hunter and a full burst into a little bug I can really feel the damage drop

[mortal wing]

But mechs seem to have 2 active at the time limit.

[dusty spruce]

I did hear it is excellent against the bugs
Maybe the Obsidian/Emancipator will be better against bots

[mortal wing]

If someone summons one over 2, existing explode?

[stone bridge]

Twin Autocannons is going to clown on a lot of bot stuff yeah

[honest acorn]

I'm hyped for the Lumberer

Big ass gun+flamer

[stone bridge]

Lumberer in 3d is gonna be wild

What that cannon do

[dusty spruce]

Big damage

I loved the lumberer

I hope they bring the Pilot armor set back

[cobalt patrol]

I got in

looks like they fixed the issue

[stone bridge]

I'm very curious what the armour perk for the Cutting Edge sets is going to be, on that note

Seems like it'll have something to do with electricity, based on the blog descriptions

[honest acorn]

I heard someone theorizing EMS immunity

I'm hoping for shock armor which damages/stuns people who melee you

[dusty spruce]

Having some punchier armor passives would be nice

Hazard Ops set giving fire/poison resistance, Pilot maybe buffing mechs somewhat

Something that benefits specific play styles more

Current ones just sorta feel like inventory buffs

[stone bridge]

I can see that being a thing

Do a zap on a 5 second cooldown or something

[tidal wing]

I think you just got lucky because I stiill get server error

which is weird because https://helldivers.io/ shows only 250k players right now

"only" lol

[cobalt patrol]

managed to immediatleyblow up my walker and kill myself

rip me

[junior badge]

it's likely possible to shoot yourself with missiles if you turn while shooting

it'll blow up in the barrel

[hot meadow]

Ah, mech is cool. Managed to get in to try it.

A little flimsy.

But, fun

Now another question - how do I use the arc thrower?

Right now I'm just full charging and letting loose, but are there any hidden mechanics, etc I should know about

[lethal dagger]

once you charge it fully you can charge to halfway on subsequent shots

[honest acorn]

You don't need to fully charge subsequent - yeah

[lethal dagger]

doubling your firerate

[hot meadow]

I knew I was missing something!

Awesome.

Thanks.

[honest acorn]

Now there is some dark magic in how it selects targets but idk how to control that very well

[turbid olive]

Oh servers dun deaded?

[spice roost]

Question for you super citizens. My crew is brand new, we're all still relatively low level with the highest of us being level 11. And it feels like they've already gotten burnt out on the game. Is the High rank stuff more overwhelming?

[quick plinth]

very much so

[kindred lintel]

burnt out how? like you arent having fun with it?

what difficulty are you playing on?

[quick plinth]

but I'd have to ask what difficulty were you playing on

4? 5?

[rich marlin]

yes it very much is if you aren't prepared and working well together

Went on my first Extreme last night and it was... too much ngl

I'm only level 13 rn

[limber pike]

Oh yes it is it’s pretty crazy

It boarders on the not fun zone for me

[kindred lintel]

once you get "hazed" on higher difficulties the game becomes more fun imo

but I sit on 6/7

[turbid olive]

Hmm I'm 90% sure I did not get my medals for the major order before the mechs

[rich marlin]

there's nothing wrong with sticking to Medium or Hard until you get all the stratagems and more upgrades

[steady bone]

I kept doing trivial till like level 10 honestly.

[spice roost]

More or less. I find my own fun in video games but I can tell when my people have lost theirs because they start griefing.

[rich marlin]

I personally love to troll around easy and Trivial

[steady bone]

minus the few times higher level friends shoved me into the depths of helldive.

My first helldive was at level 7 against bots

[spice roost]

Last night everyone just kinda shut down and left me to run around and huck nades in bases

[honest acorn]

They can be pretty delayed I think

[kindred lintel]

sounds like lousy friends

tons of people here to play with

[turbid olive]

I joined Cyan and Nalesh for a diff 7 for the first time yesterday and holy shit it was so much more intense

[spice roost]

They're not they're just new to the game. This is the cycle

[stuck wind]

i mean if their response to getting bored is to grief you that doesn't sound like particularly good friends to me

[rich marlin]

then stick with grinding easy/Medium until you really learn the game

[honest acorn]

diff 7 is a major step up in difficulty

[spice roost]

I'd play with some of the crew here but I need levels bad. This unlock system has me a little tilted

[stuck wind]

if my friends get bored of something they let me know and we go do something else

[glacial light]

Once I get 1 more super sample I'm sficking to diff 6

[turbid olive]

I was lvl 10 or 11 I'm sure

I wouldn't worry

[glacial light]

I like being reckless and pew pew

[stuck wind]

lol i'm level 9 and i've run with folks here, you really don't need to be level 50

[stone bridge]

I like pushing difficulties personally

[rich marlin]

and or play with your friends on eaier difficulties and then when you need rare/super come here and ask for help

[honest acorn]

Yeah I think the only really important late level gear anymore is the personal shield and its not mandatory it just makes life easier

[oblique storm]

I can't fucking

skip

the intro

[rich marlin]

because losing your samples progress because your friends got bored is gonna get old real fast

[turbid olive]

Yeah servers are being fucky

[quick plinth]

I wish I could play on 8 and 9 more to get a better feel for it.

I also wish it was possible to drop the shield gen on the mech

[quick plinth]

that
is
because
its
trying to
connect
or load

[rich marlin]

vertical message

[honest acorn]

I haven't played much 9 but 8 is pretty fun if really hard

[spice roost]

I don't have a strong grasp on what sample progress is or how it works but I think I get it

[stuck wind]

i'm on difficulty uhhhh 5? sometimes 6

[oblique storm]

ye see that sass

mmmmmmmmmmput it in your pocket

[rich marlin]

you collect samples from POIs in the mission, harder the mission, the more rare samples you can get.

[quick plinth]

that was sass??? (absolutely clueless, I am)

[spice roost]

And I'll be honest the trolling isn't that deep. I've flattened them with air burst on accident a lot of times

[rich marlin]

if you die, you drop the samples

and you have to go pick them back up

easy to do on easy difficulties

[turbid olive]

Hey as long as you call danger close at least half a second before it comes in then you're absolved of responsibility

[rich marlin]

once you get into harder modes... it gets much more challenging

[spice roost]

Thats what we're looking for

[quick plinth]

sorry?? (idk what sass really is, I just typed it vertically like u did)

[honest acorn]

What difficulty have you been playing?

[spice roost]

We all said "wow death stranding 2 is crazy" like a dozen times last walking from point a to b

Easy

I think

[quick plinth]

I mean

[spice roost]

I haven't been picking missions or paying attention

[quick plinth]

its a walk in the park 1 through 3

[honest acorn]

1-3 are pretty relaxed yeah

[rich marlin]

If easy is causing your friends to be trolls then I guess that’s okayish

Do hard

[quick plinth]

4 through 6 is whete it gets challenging and then 7 through 9 is where it gets increasingly hectic

[rapid plover]

do armored enemies even really spawn before 4?

[rich marlin]

That’s probably the sweet spot

[stone bridge]

No

[sinful bay]

Heyaaaa, brought the game yesterday
Was fun :3

[honest acorn]

nice

[rich marlin]

Hard is difficult but it isn’t Hellish at lower level

[stone bridge]

Armoured enemies are only mission specific targets in 1 to 3

[honest acorn]

Yeah the middle 3 difficulties are nice they're hard but give you breathing room

[rich marlin]

I’m honestly not going back into anything above medium until I’m like 20

[honest acorn]

And the last three are increasingly a Menace

[turbid olive]

Actually the 7 was maybe the second time I'd seen a Bile Titan and there were... 5? in the mission haha

[honest acorn]

I think you can go further than that before then

[quick plinth]

though I prefer 7 and up because it asks to specifically to think before engaging enemies

[lethal dagger]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XvsSQEx7Z0 this is probably the best video i've seen on bug armor

[sinful bay]

Yeeeeah the big bots with shields are
Hard with the default loadout

[rich marlin]

(Though pilot.net divers have endless patience for my ability to die so I’d be willing to do harder bs with them)

[steady bone]

Bile titan's can and will spawn on 6

[barren iron]

wait theres gonna be a jeep???

[stone bridge]

I wonder if mechs will give more breathing room vs Bile spam later on

[stone bridge]

Yup, got leaked a few days ago

[steady bone]

beep beep I'm a jeep?

[lethal dagger]

they are planning on adjusting spawnrates going forward

[glacial light]

Is it that warthog look jeep?

[lethal dagger]

i think they're also planning on messing with hp values a bit

[sinful bay]

tho is anyone having trouble joining random people? It always give me a error or say the room is full even if it shows it has room

[naive dragon]

I'm sad I was starting to really like the difficulty

[stone bridge]

Driver, two passengers, one gunner manning a top mounted MG

[naive dragon]

But at least with it being toned back down more people will play with me

[sinful bay]

Just like that game
John Halo

[rich marlin]

Servers are having some hiccups rn I think

[sinful bay]

dang, fair
Because I was a bit bummed that yesterday I found a secret room but needed two people to open

[stone bridge]

You can always push to higher difficulties

[quick plinth]

friendship bunkers

[stone bridge]

It'll be less armour spam at 8 and 9, so

[rapid plover]

friendship door

[sinful bay]

Oh so that's how we protect ourselves agaisnt meteors?

[lethal dagger]

Q: is the recoilless rifle able to one shot hulks on eye hit

[honest acorn]

yes

[rapid plover]

no there's just some loot in there

[quick plinth]

not really

theyre fairly shallow

[honest acorn]

Ok I haven't tested that but the EAT can so I assume the RR also can

[turbid olive]

There's no protecting against meteors

[lethal dagger]

i think EATs do more damage than RR

[quick plinth]

EATs are great

[lethal dagger]

and i haven't managed to one shot with RR

[honest acorn]

For meteors I like to shelter in the shadow of a cliff

[rich marlin]

You protect yourself from meteors by paying attention to the glowing white spots that shine on the ground when they are about to land.

Don’t stand near the glowing white spots

[quick plinth]

EATs feel outright like a better use of a strategem slot

[turbid olive]

They tightened the 380 spread only to add map wide 380 spam

[lethal dagger]

personally speaking i think they should do the same amount of damage given the downsides of the RR

[honest acorn]

Since they come in at an angle

[stone bridge]

You can one shot with the RR as well, I've done it

[lethal dagger]

got it, i need to adjust my aim then

[stone bridge]

The shot is very precise either way

[honest acorn]

I find this kind of hard on snowy day maps but it works yeah

[sinful bay]

a
Then how we deal with the meteors? Because is not fun to die at random
Spawn to immediatly die again

[honest acorn]

Personal and bubble shield are also good

[quick plinth]

white light

it tells you where they drop

[supple siren]

The meteors have MMO-style Damage Circle, ye

[steady bone]

I have never seen the white light what

[turbid olive]

It's very there

[honest acorn]

It's much easier to see during the night

[supple siren]

It's probably hard to see on some planets

[steady bone]

that must be a graphic thing because I had to adjust mine to run smoothly

[rich marlin]

Yeah the warnings for the meteors could stand for like, .5 second more of a warning and maybe a different color

[quick plinth]

im on low everything

[turbid olive]

It's a white/blue shrinking circle

[sinful bay]

Huh...

[rich marlin]

But sheltering under a cliff is just as valid

[honest acorn]

They give plenty of warning in theory but they're not very bright lights until they get really close

[quick plinth]

not a lot of overhangs

[steady bone]

I genuinely have never seen those circles. God damn okay I Gotta try to pay attention

[sinful bay]

Yeah I think they need some adjustments, it easily been the worst part of the game atm

[honest acorn]

You don't need an overhang they don't fall straight down

[rich marlin]

Stand near a tall rock, you’ll probably be fine

[quick plinth]

there's usually a flash before and a flash as they come in

[turbid olive]

Yeah I've deffo had to do some last minute dives sometimes

[honest acorn]

You just need height and to be on the correct side of it

[sinful bay]

Will take those tips to heart, thank ya

[rich marlin]

I do hate, though I kinda understand why, that bot drop warnings are prioritized over meteor warnings.

[sinful bay]

The bots reaction of getting shot are great

[turbid olive]

Waiting for the day I see a bot ship nailed by a meteor

[rich marlin]

Last night during an extreme bot mission often the first warning of a meteor shower was me seeing one land a foot in front of me as I’m swarmed with bots

[turbid olive]

Ooh I do want to go chasing the fire tornados, too

[sinful bay]

I saw a big bot with a shield die to one, does that count?

[turbid olive]

Any dead bot counts! 🦅

[sinful bay]

🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅

[rich marlin]

Saw a whole outpost get wiped by one which I found hilarious

[sinful bay]

Patriotic Meteors

[rich marlin]

Saved me from burning a barrage

[rapid plover]

I've seen it happen once so far

[sinful bay]

Are the servers at least stable enough to play with friends?

[turbid olive]

oh man the closest fire nado planet is in the Mirin sector

[stark ether]

man imagine the tornado chasers on hellmire

[turbid olive]

oh also on Popli IX but that's fully liberated

[sinful bay]

I can't wait to get
Shotgun

[turbid olive]

I mean just the first shotty is already great tbh

[sinful bay]

oh yeah, important.
Full Light Armor because speed is more important
Or Heavy armor speed penalty is not that horrible?

[stone bridge]

Punisher is page 1 of the first warbond and very respectable now

[rich marlin]

Okay so I’ve been neglecting weapon’s because calling down firepower from above is fun,

What weapon would you all suggest I invest in next? I have machine gun and the anti material rifle

[turbid olive]

Punisher is also a great beginner weapon for the ammo efficiency

[sinful bay]

perfect thank you :3

[honest acorn]

I think they're all usable but the mobility is I think nicer than the resistance

I've personally be running light armor vs bugs and heavy/medium vs bots

[stark ether]

what do you fight most bots or bugs and what difficulty

[honest acorn]

Since I need the speed less with them

[stone bridge]

Medium armour is a really nice, well, middle ground now

[turbid olive]

the round reload means you're not punished for non-tactical reloads

[rich marlin]

Bug main and usually like medium or lower

[honest acorn]

If you have the level for it the Autocannon is a general purpose workhorse

Laser Cannon is similar

[sinful bay]

makes sense, thank you!

[rich marlin]

scribbles notes

[stark ether]

stalwart is pretty good for low level bugs

machinegun with more mobility

[rapid plover]

Seconding the auto cannon

[quick crown]

Autocannon rules

[rapid plover]

It can also blow up bug holes and bot factories

[sinful bay]

do we have a lore reason why is called super earth?

[rich marlin]

If the servers haven’t caught fire for real then I might be able to squeeze a trivial or two in before work

[quick crown]

Autocannon mains reloading eachother is

[glacial light]

Cause it's super

[glacial light]

Is this Yuri

[strange vine]

yes

[stone bridge]

Autocannon is a great jack of all trades weapon

[rich marlin]

Fascist government parody being extra as an OOC reason. Dunno what the true ic reason is

[stark ether]

my kingdom for hesh rounds for the autocannon

[quick crown]

Me and my bros reloading eachother

[honest acorn]

Worth noting that this was the way it worked in HD1 so there probably isnt a way to reload

[hexed steeple]

i love my autocannon and my autocanno nloves me

[rich marlin]

Kinda gay ngl.

Patriotic! But gay

[turbid olive]

well... hopefully the servers are better tomorrow ig?

[oblique lotus]

yeah I'm assuming mech ammo is a one and done

[honest acorn]

You just leave the mech behind as a distraction once its empty

[sinful bay]

Kiss your hommies goodnight for Super Earth, Patriot!

[quick crown]

Shame there isnt a 500kg strapped to the back...

Or is there

^>VVV

[glacial light]

But don't forget to fill a c-01 form if needed

[stone bridge]

The Mech seems to have a ton of raw efficiency at least

[glacial light]

I assume the mechs are fairly slow compared to just running

[sinful bay]

The Mech is a Mech

[quick crown]

[stone bridge]

If the rockets are equivalent to an RR or EATs shot they can blow off Charger leg armour in one go

[cobalt patrol]

Right now my mech opinon is i need to stop blowing myself up

[stone bridge]

Which makes them even more efficient

[cobalt patrol]

if i brfing mechs i may only bring them for other people

[turbid olive]

been helldiving for long enough that the reentry turblence noise has stopped haha

[cobalt patrol]

because if i get in one, i tend to fire a rocekt and isntantly kill myself

[turbid olive]

not on a loop apparently

[honest acorn]

If they can 2 shot biles they must be pretty close in power

[glacial light]

My EATs/RR on a mech? Blessed

[kindred lintel]

Can you still throw strategems in a mech?

[tidal wing]

so not only am I not getting medals for major orders, I am not getting any rewards for completing missions :/

[kindred lintel]

in HD1 you could

[stone bridge]

Apparently not sadly

[stark ether]

have you restarted you game? that sometimes fixes that issue

[quick plinth]

strap some spears onto a mech

[glacial light]

Imagine if you could load stratagems into a grenade launcher that'd be fun

Or a mech shoulder mounted grenade launcher

[quick plinth]

smoke mortar but for stratagems instead

[graceful bluff]

Honestly I could see them making a seconary which is just like some sort of stratagem slingshot

[quick plinth]

though it would be nice if we could get a secondary weapon thats just a stratagem launcher

[honest acorn]

Functionally speaking that’s done with servo assisted armor and the dive trick

[quick plinth]

great minds

[stark ether]

snowball thrower

[honest acorn]

But a precision launcher would be nice

[graceful bluff]

Somehow we both used the braincell

[glacial light]

Parallel processing

[eager pine]

Fuck normal mode. System is always in patriotism mode!

[hexed steeple]

the mech drawbacks you gotta play around seem to be:

• not as fast as running
• slow turn speed
• no stratagems while you're in there
• limited uses

[ivory swallow]

Kinda sucks the mech is unlocked at level 25 but oh well

[honest acorn]

That does kinda suck

[stone bridge]

You're getting one for free every mission for at least the next couple of days

So that's good

[sinful bay]

Seems they want the mech to be a very "I WILL Complete this mission" option

[hallow hornet]

I'm assuming the "no stratagem while in the mech" bit for now is like

because it'll be locked behind an upgrade

[hexed steeple]

:o

[hallow hornet]

Its what makes the most sense as a potential upgrade

[sinful bay]

Or a way to balance it and let the pilot focus on something while the ground troops focus on supporting it?

[hallow hornet]

Cause it used to have it in Helldiver 1

[sinful bay]

Would be cool if you could ride on top of it

[strange vine]

• alerts every nearby patrol like a giant beacon

[quick plinth]

are the hamsters still picketing?

[strange vine]

the backend servers are getting overwhelmed atm, you'll get them eventually

[quick plinth]

that answers that question

[cobalt patrol]

Yeah, turns out the gamers wanted the mechs and it broke their backend

[glacial light]

An all too common story

[sinful bay]

Can you climb the friendly mech?

[dim bane]

I don't know if this is a repost. But CW: ||bigotry, toxicity||
https://www.polygon.com/24093674/helldivers-2-discord-meta-role-play-fandom-joel

[honest acorn]

She added that there’s been an increase in people who are only interested in watching the numbers go up. Baptized as “Creekers” by the community, they tend to spew toxicity against anyone whom they consider to be “hurting the war effort” by not taking part in Major Orders.
This is such a goofy name since Malvoleon Creek has never been an objective

[hallow hornet]

I was about to post this

[oblique storm]

Yeah like

I've only seen people deride people who fight on Malevolon Creek still

[oblique lotus]

I am simultaneously unsurprised and disappointed

[sinful bay]

Yeah no surprise there sadly, we have people that thinks Starship Troopers is a legit patriotic movie

[dim bane]

Some people just do not want to get the joke.

[oblique lotus]

as far as TK being a problem it's hard to address because teamkilling is kind of the point?

like, obviously if its misused thats a problem

[hallow hornet]

dissapointed about the official discord classifying LGBTQ+ folks existing as politics tbh

[limber pike]

Terminally online/untreated mental illness/low media literacy bad combinations

[gusty lodge]

tbf most of the major order rewards weren't exactly...

I've been sitting at 50k reqscrip for the past 20ish hrs of gameplay, and it isn't exactly useful to get another 1500 or so.

[oblique lotus]

but a design "point" so to speak is that your weapons are very lethal to both the enemy and your teammates

cluster is extremly good at clearing hordes and also very good at clearing teammates

did blue just get booted?

[turbid olive]

I haven't yet managed a full clear on TMs

need to try harder

[graceful bluff]

Like I've said from the start, give us a trans cape and the problem will go away for the most part

[stone bridge]

They seem to have left immediately after that post

[oblique lotus]

yeah

that was weird

[oblique storm]

Haven't they been banning anyone complaining about woke stuff like as a matter of point

I remember this

[graceful bluff]

They have but since they have like 10 mods for 500k people it's still rampant

[oblique lotus]

they're taking the lazy option by banning any "political" discussion at all whatsoever

[turbid olive]

okay game borked as the post-game stuff was loading and didnt give me mission rewards

[oblique lotus]

which is unfortunately commonplace

[oblique storm]

That doesn't really seem like the "lazy" option

[turbid olive]

gonna give this a rest for a while

[graceful bluff]

like the other day I saw two anti lgbt memes back to back to back in different channels, one being in fucking fanart for some reason

[oblique lotus]

it's lazy because they're not actually taking a stance on it they're just saying "no discussing X Y and Z topics at all" despite LGBTQ stuff not being particularly political

it's the generic "we can't be arsed to address it so just don't discuss the subject" position that a lot of moderation takes that's not actually helpful

[graceful bluff]

Love me existing being a political discussion

[oblique lotus]

^

I've been in "no politics" servers where the actual line of "no politics" was basically dependent on which mods were online

[eager pine]

That's what it always is.

[honest acorn]

I think so but they seem to mostly do temp bans and there's no logging or notice so its hard to track

[graceful bluff]

The only other discord I'm on that has a no politics rule has made it specifically clear that lgbt people isn't political

[oblique lotus]

and it usually results in weird shit pits festering where mods aren't looking

[graceful bluff]

and are welcome there

[eager pine]

Mods have the power to literally delete your speech so they have ultimate totalitarian control within the specific area they have mod powers in.

What they do with it is up to them.

[quick plinth]

"no arguments or politics" when the line is drawn at an moroccan not getting banned for ranting and raving against gay people as per his religion, but banning the gay people for, reasonably getting upset at this

[graceful bluff]

(They also have an extremely gay fanart community which helps a lot because it's a grand strategy youtuber, so that attracts hoi4 players every so often)

[oblique lotus]

that's more extreme than I usually see but yeah you see some weird equivalencies getting drawn

[oblique storm]

Like the thing is that I think it's rough to go "they're lazy" when you would have one moderator moderating a minimum of 50 thousand people

I'd go insane

[quick plinth]

generally I feel like moderation teams should work like a tribunal

[graceful bluff]

If only there was automoderation that could at least ban the people saying slurs

[hallow hornet]

part of the problem is also like

[stray tide]

Tbh I think they should probably put the discord on hold for now

[oblique lotus]

I'm not saying the mods are lazy, I'm saying that in this particular case they are taking the minimum effort position

[quick plinth]

voting and deliberating on desicions

[stray tide]

They clearly don’t have the manpower to manage

[hallow hornet]

this is kinda what happens when moderation is not transparent about the whys

tbh

[oblique lotus]

like the discord is clearly undermoderated which is probably why they're putting the generic clamp on things

but "just don't talk about it" is the lazy option

[hallow hornet]

they can ban all the bigots in the world

[oblique lotus]

it's the "do whatever you want so long as I don't hear about it" option

[hallow hornet]

if they don't say that's why they were banned

there's like

nothing for people to see about the space being safer

[quick plinth]

also servers putting "don't talk about politics" and then go on to elaborate that my mere existance is politics, isn't the comforting rule they might or probably don't think it is

[limber pike]

Tbh I take it form an inappropriate view if it’s not directly about the game or if the LARP is getting wacky/bad vibes it’s time to just clamp down harsher in general

[stray tide]

Tbh I’m willing to say that that rule is like

Coddling bigots

[quick crown]

I agree

[stray tide]

And is gonna end up just strengthening the bigoted elements of the community

[rich marlin]

Ah couldn’t skip the intro, time to see if I can do a mission

[quick plinth]

it be loading and connecting, top right, loading circle

usually u skip it cuz its fast

[dusty spruce]

The server does need a banlog, since I do see bigots getting removed quite often, but it needs a concrete way to show who and what is getting assholes purged.

I should also point out that the server doesn't actually have a 'no politics rule'

[limber pike]

They just need to start swinging the ban hammer around with more mod hires even if it ends up more “cold and sterile”

[quick plinth]

I mean, the good servers I'm in have a space specifically for talking about politics, however usually those spaces are quite lefty, so anyone trying to start stuff either gets removed or just disproven

[rich marlin]

Saw this suggestion I think here and a couple other places but I think The surest way to expose and dive out all the problem people is put the pride flags in the game and then make sure their moderators are ready with the ban hammer

[oblique storm]

What actually is the ruling of the word

wording of the rule

god I'm hungry

[graceful bluff]

<@&1206091872716595200> need two

[quick plinth]

one

[kindred lintel]

omw

[eager pine]

I'm not usually proud of getting banned, but one time I got banned from a small discord with like 10 active users for suggesting the youtubers running it were transphobic for creating a conspiracy theory that the people upset about that one ad in Cyberpunk 2077 were actually a plot by the CCP to destroy the country of Poland. They had a map and everything./

[sinful bay]

What

[eager pine]

We've moved on while I was writing that haven't we?

[limber pike]

Lol i remember that I my mind the ads in cyberpunk were meant to be as distasteful and obnoxious as possible

[sinful bay]

I-
What-
Listen I need to learn how to die less

[ivory swallow]

Thing is chuds would just tk the people with pride flags over and over

[barren warren]

never stop moving

[ivory swallow]

Yes friendly fire is intentional gameplay but intentional tking isn’t.

[eager pine]

We were talking about bans, and I started telling that story but by the time I finished writing it we were done with the discussion of bans.

[barren warren]

if you stop moving you die

[rich marlin]

That’s why you need a report and a block function

[ivory swallow]

Yeah there’s no report function yet

[rich marlin]

Shit I’ve seen assholes try to do that in Apex…. Though if anything happens to them is a different matter

[oblique lotus]

they're already doing that btw

if you've got a pride steam avatar or whatever

[ivory swallow]

Yeah

[oblique storm]

Kill 'em back

[stray tide]

Yeah there’s people in that article stopping to look at people’s steam profiles to check

[ivory swallow]

I only play on here but yeah it sucks

[stray tide]

Honestly I wouldn’t play this game pick up if at all possible - either with friends or like

Yeah people from here

[oblique storm]

I play it pick up all the time and it's perfectly fine

[limber pike]

I generally hate randoms

[oblique storm]

Like the vast majority of players just don't actually talk at all

[honest acorn]

Randoms have been a mixed bag for me but in general I've had more good random teams than bad random teams

[quick crown]

I join randoms but i never talk I'm not about that Open Mic life anymore

[ivory swallow]

Funny to me that r6 has friendly fire and then eventually they did so much to try and eliminate greifing it’s basically not in the game anymore

[oblique lotus]

the median random is fine but there are some low rolls mixed in there

[modest fiber]

been using the mech for few missions.. its quite decent on stomping bugs but not that great against robots, partially due to its lack of ammo and a way to resupply/repair, beyond that its neat

[sinful bay]

Got it

[quick crown]

That said if someone asks you something in chat you should type back but you know

[eager pine]

I wonder if I should change my steam PFP. It's such an obscure reference to something so boring.

[sinful bay]

Scout TF2

[quick crown]

Callout system exists for a reason

[oblique storm]

Group of half a million people largely average with some exceptionally good and bad people in it, study finds.

[eager pine]

I will talk, but I use push to talk

@quick crown to be ignored?

[quick crown]

Eh?

[eager pine]

It's a response to what you just said.

Joke response

[dusty spruce]

It'd be hard, or rather against the gameplay style, to do automated punishments for friendly fire here. This is the Magicka studio, it's somewhat meant to be part of the gameplay that 'oops' will happen.

But it does also need a way to report people for obvious assholery

[stray tide]

I think the problem is that you can’t really automatically penalize - yeah

It’s an intentional part of the game

[quick crown]

Thin balance between a good reporting system and league of legends ass shit

[eager pine]

What really? But I have so many fond memories of a streamer I used to play Siege with TKing people in the head by accident because they ran in front of her at just the wrong moment.

[meager saffron]

pub arc thrower users in shambles

[ivory swallow]

Like… I don’t think you can tk someone in prep phase now, and the whole reverse friendly fire thing

[eager pine]

I need to find that clip

[quick crown]

Prep phase?

oh r6

[ivory swallow]

Whatever Ubisoft sucks anyways

Stopped playing that game a long time ago

[quick crown]

I was confused because i have killed plenty of people by mistake at mission start of HD2

[sinful bay]

It was foretold

[quick crown]

Oh god how many times my silly self started a mission without reading

and realized it was the stratagem shuffle

"CALLING IN AN EAGLE

[turbid olive]

I 'member the Halo 3 days of getting kicked because of a couple accidental (good faith) betrayals

[oblique lotus]

credit to riot, the autoban bot does work

[honest acorn]

HD1 had a report/reputation system which added a badge to people with particularly low or high scores

[quick crown]

They probably made it better, I am an old player from long long ago

[oblique lotus]

league is a lot less toxic than it used to be

[quick crown]

realshit?

[sinful bay]

That's great to hear

[sinful bay]

They should bring that back

[oblique lotus]

I think I've had one person do the post game rage spam in the last year

and that was unusual

[honest acorn]

I agree its a good thing to have

[stray tide]

Yeah after the servers and bugs are mostly smoother which seems to be like

Coming around p soon

[honest acorn]

I pretty much never see people use postgame chat at all any more

[limber pike]

I remember this definitely should bring it back

[oblique lotus]

modern "toxicity" is like three MiA pings

[oblique lotus]

they added me after the game

[stray tide]

They absolutely need to focus on figuring out how to prune this community

[honest acorn]

oh lmao

[oblique lotus]

I was vaguely curious because it had been so long since someone did that

[quick crown]

Don't do this to me, Don't get me tempted again.....

[oblique lotus]

felt like a throwback to 2015 ngl

[quick crown]

I don't want to go back i was such a shitty person xC

[stray tide]

Although for what it’s worth it’ll definitely get better when helldivers stops being like

The spotlight game

[quick crown]

But the lane

[sinful bay]

So you are telling me
Riot handled it's player base better than Overwatch did?
What a timeline to be in

[oblique lotus]

yup

[quick crown]

The jungle it calls to me

[oblique lotus]

also league doesn't have voice chat so it's easier to moderate

[turbid olive]

Blizzard and Community Management don't exactly go hand in hand

[oblique lotus]

iirc valo? is trying to implement some kind of voice chat recording system to combat voice toxicity

[sinful bay]

True yeah and HD2 has a problem
it's Satire
it WILL fly over people's head

[stray tide]

The Meta Chasers are just gonna always exist tho

They made the higher difficulties really hard

So there’s gonna be people who are assholes about it

[sinful bay]

ergo

[honest acorn]

League does have voice chat but only for groups which link up before queuing, so most people don't use it

[stray tide]

I genuinely don’t think that part of this article is fixable

[limber pike]

This is why I think the majority of the most toxic players are probably low media literacy fortnight ™️ teenagers too online than dye in the wool facists

[quick crown]

I was going to say what if the devs came out and said: HEY THIS GAME IS CLEARLY SATIRE

But then i remember arcsys doing that for Bridget and i'm exausted again...

[dusty spruce]

The old rep system that sorted bad faith people together would be good, but since it was automated (I think), I worry about that being exploited through mass flagging.

especially with how much bigger this game is

[stray tide]

There’s people who report you in overwatch for Off Meta Picks and so on

[sinful bay]

Boy i am sure glad I can just call 3 other patriots to play with me and not go full random solo

[stray tide]

Is this sarcasm

[supple siren]

wistfully remembers the server-based online gaming era (not that HD2 would work but god it was a lot easier to manage your community)

[modest fiber]

oh no, anyway

[meager saffron]

all five of them banned

[oblique lotus]

yeah I should have said public lobby chat or whatever

[oblique lotus]

does dota still do low priority queue?

[honest acorn]

I think its sort of insane that LoL doesn't have any voice for randoms

It's such a coordination heavy game

[oblique lotus]

where you have to climb out of hell to get back into normal games

[dusty spruce]

Considering League's reputation (undeserved or not), perhaps that's a good thing

[quick crown]

Ehhh you can get by

[sinful bay]

Honeslty at this point I don't know...

[quick crown]

but yeah

its weird that Curse took so long with its implementation in particular

[stray tide]

I think if they included a report system it would have to be like

Moderated

Not just “you got enough reports, die”

[dusty spruce]

One of many things I hope improve as they hire some more people

[stray tide]

Yeah

[honest acorn]

The HD1 system just gave like a little orange down arrow by people who were negatively reported a lot

[hexed steeple]

oh it looks like you lose any support/backpack stuf fyou were carrying if you die in your mech?

[stray tide]

Makes sense

It do explode

Be careful about samples then

[sinful bay]

No eject system?
Ah so is gundam 1 style

[supple siren]

I hope the scythe gets a touch-up, I want the Laser/Laser/Laser/Laser build

[oblique lotus]

whats an eject

also the scythe is pretty good imo

you need to hit weakpoints but it'll toast them pretty quick

better against bots than bugs

[supple siren]

I feel like it's a bit of a strugglebus compared to just the good ol' AR

[hot meadow]

I died in a mech once and was able to get my equipment on respawn

[rich marlin]

Yeah so I can play but anytime I went to collect stuff like medals are credits in a mission, I’d get stuck in place

[hexed steeple]

hmm it just happaned to me that i couldn't get it

[sinful bay]

Enkidu players: A cowardly option

[hot meadow]

It is as I was warned: weird

[dusty spruce]

Yeah, I love the Scythe in this. It feels just like what it's supposed to be for me.
HD1 lasers did iffy damage if you were off the center-of-mass, but good damage when you were on. I think this is morphed into being a head-popper in HD2

[honest acorn]

That's a known bug connected to high server load

[supple siren]

Also; the laser weapons having a Loud Scary Beeping before they overheat instead of after

A++

[stray tide]

It feels like helldivers ceasing to be flavor of the month will help with a lot of its issues

[dusty spruce]

I did notice a player drop when Last Epoch dropped and that became the 'quick hop on' game

[stray tide]

I don’t THINK it’s gonna be able to maintain these crazy ass numbers

[limber pike]

It won’t people are going to get bored eventually

[eager pine]

I couldn't find the clip I was looking for.

[sinful bay]

Yeah is like Palworld, crazy numbers at first then it calmed down

[limber pike]

Especially if they don’t add urban maps and the like

[dusty spruce]

I wonder if Urban will be reserved for Super Earth

[golden ledge]

Wasn't the urban map in HD1 only when Super Earth was being sieged?

[dusty spruce]

I think it was for any planet siege

[hot meadow]

Drop off seems slower than palworld I think

[limber pike]

They need to add / fix planetary defense missions because they are bad imo

[hot meadow]

It’s a very, very good game.

[honest acorn]

There was a special tileset for super earth iirc

But it was just a less damaged urban map

[oblique storm]

I cannot wait for Super Earth to be invaded

[dusty spruce]

They seem better, now.
Did a lvl 7 defense on Angel's against the Bugs
Never even saw a Bile Titan. Not even a ton of chargers

[hot meadow]

Plus I think we may be in a period where other GaaS are doing badly enough that the freshness of this model will give it big legs.

[oblique storm]

I hope it's a special map set

[sinful bay]

By Chaos Rebel Helldivers!

[limber pike]

It’s more like honestly in how it’s pronounced games not promising the world

[dusty spruce]

I'm hyped for Mars
Hoping for a 'Fall of Reach' kinda scenario

[hot meadow]

I’m so impressed by how different different planets feel

I wonder how much variety we will end up with. I’m already thrilled by what we have

[sinful bay]

I just hope
For less meteor showers
plz
dying as you respawn is not fun

[hot meadow]

Tien Kwan felt very different from Creek, and the various bug planets felt really distinct to me

[limber pike]

The big test will be when they add the illuminate

[sinful bay]

what's that

[limber pike]

The third enemy faction

[dusty spruce]

Protoss-style spoof. Big energy weapons and energy shield alien race

Lore-wise they've been pushed into the space between galaxies by the last Galactic War

[south temple]

fr? i was running 6s last night and we got fucked by 3 titans

[limber pike]

Psycho mantis style control ||fuckery||

[stray tide]

There’s been several hints at their return

[oblique storm]

(even though they won)

The Illuminate were the guys to destroy Super Earth

[sinful bay]

what

[oblique storm]

or one of the Super Earths at least

Yeah the Super Earth we're on isn't even Earth

And probably is like

at LEAST the 3rd Super Earth

[hot meadow]

TIL

[sinful bay]

So in HD1 humanity lost?

[oblique storm]

People stopped playing the game

but the war kept going

[sinful bay]

incredible

[honest acorn]

It's not completely clear to me which if any war endings in HD1 are "canon" for HD2

But them never mentioning losing a galactic war is something they would do

[oblique storm]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2ItuOe3DMY

[steady bone]

there are endings?

[oblique storm]

War never ends

[sinful bay]

War has never changes

[dusty spruce]

The victory one is, I think. Illuminate got banished and 'had their WMDs dismantled', Cyborgs were enslaved on Cyberstan (not joking, that's the name), Bugs got farmed for oil.

Either way does work for the satire, at least :P

[steady bone]

I'm more surprised they made an ending

[oblique storm]

This wasn't an ending, this happened every time the war was lost

[rustic portal]

well, "ending"

yeah

[oblique storm]

I just think the Illimuinate did the last one

[dim bane]

Feels like there's a certain kind of person who doesn't want games to ever be considered, "fun."

[rustic portal]

the war would play out, an ending would happen and the war just resets

[steady bone]

I wonder what would happen in hd2 if the war fails.

[dusty spruce]

Honestly, I hope they bring back that catch-up from HD1. It was handy to see what had changed.

[vestal trail]

There was no surprise, they showcased mechs officially in a pre-release trailer

[oblique storm]

Okay so

If Helldivers 1 is completely canonical

Super Earth was blown up 28 times

[hot meadow]

By Democracy!

[steady bone]

damn how many earth's do they have?!

[hot meadow]

That’s terrible. lol.

[oblique storm]

https://helldivers.fandom.com/wiki/Galactic_Campaign_Records

[sinful bay]

https://tenor.com/view/kekwtf-gif-18599263

[rustic portal]

its because each war was fairly short, 134 total (including the 5 day "test" war)

[unkempt flax]

https://twitter.com/MadMaxnie/status/1765815444336767269?t=yaDP4IfZa66aOkTzf_vEHA&s=33

Erika Furudo's Unhealthy Coping Mechanism (@MadMaxnie) on X

i love these developers so fucking much dude, fuck the haters, this owns

Twitter · Mar 7, 2024, 7:03 PM

Based devs

[sinful bay]

Oh no
So they know I died in the training arena when I dived too early

[limber pike]

Yeah this games only a few weeks old cry baby behavior

[alpine seal]

oh the ❓ is i'm reminded of dev comments on user feedback

[steady bone]

this dev I think was also dealt with by the CEO at one point or that was another one.

or action was taken or something

[true smelt]

Plus we literally got breaker but better this update in the form of a Punisher with a nearly bottomless ammo supply at 400 damage per shot

Also laser cannon kills chargers in seconds now if you're skilled enough

[dusty spruce]

Careful with the laser cannon on the charger, that depends on something wonky with their legs, which may be a bug that gets patched out

[full iron]

current thoughts on the exosuit:

https://tenor.com/view/dude-this-car-is-butt-gif-27264110

[sinful bay]

That makes me think
Power armor when

[oblique storm]

Wouldn't it be so fucking funny

if in 40k they revealed that Terra got destroyed at the end of the Horus Heresy

and now they were just on some random planet

terraformed to look like the Sol system

[sinful bay]

god

[rustic portal]

it wouldnt be the first time they moved a planet and went "what no, thats always been there, shut up"

[oblique storm]

Very Imperium thing to just make Planet 2 and say it's been the planet the whole time totally 100% real shut up if you say otherwise I will fucking beat you to death with hammers

[dusty spruce]

Didn't they steal a moon of Mars and shove it into orbit of Saturn?

[sinful bay]

So there's where the warhammers came from...

[dusty spruce]

But I would love a power-loader style power armor for Helldivers. Would fit the Starship Troopers inspiration as well

[sinful bay]

With a nice stomping melee attack?

[rich marlin]

Just got out of a Trivial where a level 30 was babysitting two really new guys (like level 1 and 3) and when we were out on the planet the level 30 dude got on the mic to tell the two younglings to help him with the objective while I sample hunted.

Gave em a turret to help with the objective and it was a nice interaction ngl

Expected the 30 to get snippy with me, but they knew what I was doing so I appreciated him wrangling his ‘kids’

[glad orchid]

Yeah sometimes you get good randos that'll be helpful and nice and such. Haven't had too many bad ones yet but maybe that's cause I'm not playing on the sweatier difficulties

[sinful bay]

So keep playing on easy and trivial for maximum fun if not playing with friends, got it.

[rich marlin]

Trivial is… well trivial to do solo

You get to take your time

See the sights

Angel’s Venture is very pretty

[modest fiber]

iirc there are different classifications of mechs but it would be quite wack if you can customise them.. unlikely but would be wack

[daring monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/715629354897506459/1215635055708479579/hulkdancefloor.mp4?ex=65fd775e&is=65eb025e&hm=cae6b7d14f5ec9a64d6574dc0e816921274c35031dd4c0d977cc92991d39410b&

[rich marlin]

You know what would be a fun way of customization for mechs?

Whatever background you have for your card giving the mechs different paint jobs

[azure pewter]

Or cape

[sinful bay]

That would be awesome
I would love to have a support mech too, like a Lancaster of sorts

[rich marlin]

The cape and the backgrounds do come in matched sets (most of the time) so either or!

Also we lost Angel’s Venture didn’t we?

It wasn’t looking too hot when I was on and we were like, 9 minutes from the end of the defense

[quick crown]

I want a mech with a cape I second this

[dusty spruce]

I think people still don't like civilian extracts

also lmao I saw the mech missile bug

That's hilarious

Myrion was right
https://youtu.be/Vj886Y9xGrU?si=ADG9TU4mOXcBwrDU

[rich marlin]

They are terrible ngl

I know this isn’t a lone player type game but if I can’t complete one alone on trivial that’s kinda bleh

[honest acorn]

I think they're mostly ok now but they were fucked before

[dusty spruce]

No, that's a fair assessment. Trivial being the first mission you unlock, they should be possible for someone to easily do to 'learn' th game/mission

[rich marlin]

Think that Civilian extracts should be locked to easy and up while keeping the easier stuff lower like the fueling stations, raising the flag

Easy is where you get some confidence and people are more likely to join you than trivial

And you need at least a couple people for civie extracts

[fleet jacinth]

WOKE UP, WE HAVE MECHS

FUCK YEAH

DEMOCRACY WILL FIGHT LIKE NEVER BEFORE

[sinful bay]

lv25 up

[fleet jacinth]

STILL VERY COOL

[sinful bay]

AGREED MY DEMOCRATIC FRIEND

[golden ledge]

Excellent, shiny medals.

[sinful bay]

woah
You can buy so many capes with that

Tho props to the game the starting rifle is good

The pistol I found very underwhelming tho

[pale remnant]

I quite like the basic pistol :v

[sinful bay]

h o w

[pale remnant]

It just feels quite good to use for me, the machine pistol is better, but I like the feel of the semiauto more

[fleet jacinth]

The basic pistol definitely fills the role of 'secondary weapon', not to be relied upon but good for saving your main's ammo on tiny bugs n stuff

and can tackle bigger bugs if need be

[sinful bay]

ah
I only foughts robots until now so that's might be why i feel it's weak

[fleet jacinth]

that might do it lol

[barren warren]

starting with robots?

very very brave

[fleet jacinth]

machine pistol is good tho, can go between semiauto and full auto which is nice

[sinful bay]

look
The game just said "So
This planet right.. HERE! Needs your help, givei t a spin :)"
And then I had to google how I destroy a fuel plant

[rich marlin]

Senator hits hard af

Highly recommend it

[pale remnant]

I think its fine vs roberts, too. its gonna struggle against devastators but anything smaller'll crumble

[fleet jacinth]

https://tenor.com/view/armstrong-senator-armstrong-metal-gear-rising-nanomachines-son-punch-gif-25478224

[sinful bay]

They aren't THAT bad, I struggle more agaisnt the big ones with using a shield

[honest acorn]

heavy devs are just nasty

They kind of need to be flanked to kill easily

[dusty spruce]

Yeah, my only real tip is grenade or try to shoot just over the head. The backpack is a weak spot that will kill them

Something with good stagger trivializes them

Punisher is good if you have it, I think

[fleet jacinth]

I mean taking on devastators from the front'll work, but aiming at their head while they're doin their thing is definitely not that easy

[daring monolith]

The machine pistol is my favourite by far. Senator just has too little ammo, the basic pistol is not awful but is just outclassed by the machine pistol

[dusty spruce]

I like to take the Senator with the Slugger

I love to reload during a battle

[sinful bay]

yeeeeeeeeah and I only played solo so-
I needed to Orbital Gatling Barrage to kill it

[sinful bay]

" I like to fellate and stroke my revolver during a battle, nothing feels like sliding it across my thigh holster back and forth during the heat of the fight. Reloading like this... is a revolution"

[daring monolith]

Grenade Launcher kills them pretty reliably

[quick plinth]

devastators are easy sauce

[daring monolith]

It’s probably my go to solo weapon

[barren warren]

for solo, remember: you can always just Run

[daring monolith]

It or autocannon

[barren warren]

You Dont Have To Fight

You Can Just Leave

[quick plinth]

two plinks to the head with my DMR

[sinful bay]

counterpoint:
I am lv3

[daring monolith]

Ah

[hot meadow]

This ended up going near as I can tell not good for the dev FWIW

[quick plinth]

their exposed head is such a good weak spot

[sinful bay]

agreed, makes me with for a sniper ASAP

[fleet jacinth]

I just noticed the mechs have tail-lights and turn signals on their ass lol

[barren warren]

my fave mech detail is the tiny gas can

[fleet jacinth]

oh yeah!

[dusty spruce]

I should also say that Devastators are long distance are still terrifying, especially if you encounter the later game patrols that are just equal numbers of Heavies and Rocket Devastators

[sinful bay]

I mean
OSHA is pretty patriotic right

[sinful bay]

pain

[dusty spruce]

The sheer amount of death that comes spewing out of distant fog

[honest acorn]

No that was a different guy who made a bunch of angry posts on the main discord

[fleet jacinth]

yea, it's why I really like the laser cannon now

[sinful bay]

I love how the Robot patrols have their own chanting too