Ok ok bug loadout for challenging difficulty, cause I suck.
Rover
EAT
Airstrike
Rocket Pods
And then a second person bringing
Airstrike
Autocannon
Mortar Turret
???
#Helldivers 2: For Managed Democracy!
hot meadow
Picking a support weapon when you want to use rover is hard lol
golden ledge
glacial light
EATs is really good against bugs
Each EATs can effectively kill 1 charger and with 2 in each drop that's should keep up with chargers up to a certain point
Eagle airstrike is simply goated
Rover is great against bugs
That's pretty much the loadout I bring but I use orbital railcannon unless I get a 2nd 500kg
hot meadow
Good to know. What would you put as the fourth choice for the second person’s loadout? I’m leaning towards another set of rocket pods tbh
Could also do another turret like an autocannon turret
That way p1 is good at clearing heavies and p2 clears hordes
glacial light
I would not bring mortars to bugs because mortar will shoot any bugs no matter how close to a teammate it is and bigs love being close to teammates
hot meadow
(Last night was nonstop nailbiter challenging runs so I’m trying to figure out how to make them marginally less stressful)
hot meadow
I would not bring mortars to bugs because mortar will shoot any bugs no matter h...
This makes sense to me, but I think my wife has named her turret at this point.
glacial light
Napalm is a good early game eagle for destroying bug swarms
hot meadow
So asking her not to bring it probably won’t work, lol.
If you were to swap it out, napalm sounds like a good choice tho
glacial light
Cluster also works well against bugs just triple check for friendlies before throwing
It has the opposite of 500kg problem where it's deceptively bigger radius than it's visual
An alternative is to replace mortar turret with autocannon turret, and get a flamethrower if player 2 wants a turret
Flamethrower is great against chargers now
tidal wing
did we get the medals for the Heeth/Angel order?
graceful bluff
not yet probably
the swedish library computer they use as a main server really struggles
tidal wing
I also dipped briefly into the subreddit looking to see if anyone mentioned it and that was a fucking mistake
they are having a collective Gamer Moment over the devs getting snarky over nerf feedback
glacial light
Yea that subreddit is not worth it rn
tidal wing
it had some fun memes when I started playing the game last week
glacial light
I missed the me a week ago when it had fun memes
glacial light
Good for the discord mod, that fellow just seemed like a bad apple that loved to power trip and aggravate people for no reason
The dev I sort of get cause the game is likely very personal to them but it wasn't good behavior regardless
quick plinth
glacial light
Good for the CEO not ignoring it though
kindred lintel
what is this related to
quick plinth
a single dev getting very confrontational over the changes and handing out "skill issue" to everyone saying 8 and 9 is simply not that doable anymore
especially terminind extractions
glacial light
That dev also started riling up people for fun a bit in their own words
quick plinth
since extracting turns out, ruins any cohesion a squad might've had as everyone is running circles around the exfil point trying not to get stopmed by the 5-10 chargers, at least 3 or 4 bile titans and swarms of smaller bugs
rich marlin
Okay so I just had the most annoying bug ever
Was stuck perma slowed
No indication on my screen that anything was effected me, just slow
I got time for one more easy mission XD
tidal wing
I dunno if I was a dev working on this game and I saw how people were behaving I'd feel the urge to take shots back
especially in the subreddit
is it professional? no. is it undeserved? also no
glacial light
I could see it, people can get real defensive of something they and their peers worked hard on
tidal wing
like, not two weeks ago people were praising "based devs" for banning a transphobe from the discord. this is the flipside of that
like. it was a hit then, it should be a hit now
you want community engagement, sometimes that comes with teeth
supple siren
Also like
They're balance changes for a PVE game
with no fomo elements
no 'world first' race nonsense
The people overreacting are wild to me
tidal wing
pissing and shidding and crying because a dev told you to git gud is child behavior
hot meadow
The dev’s behavior was totally understandable and also on a pragmatic level very stupid.
(Speaking as a non game dev who occasionally wants to say very rude things to clients)
glacial light
Yea there's a reason most companies restrict who gets to speak for them, there's basically almost no winning when it comes to PR
golden ledge
Sudden bug defense at Angel's Venture by the way.
tidal wing
Sudden bug defense at Angel's Venture by the way.
JOEL
glacial light
I do not envy any PR folks
Has Joel ever said anything publicly even? I remember like the one post they mentioned Joel existed and we turned him into a malevolent GM character
tidal wing
for all I know Joel never even existed
alpine seal
we got the 45 medals so everyone's busy at tien kwan, let them take it
glacial light
But tbf he is basically GMing
tidal wing
they did say he's not the literal only one working the levers
oblique lotus
for all I know Joel never even existed
is joel real
glacial light
Are you?
oblique lotus
honestly I don't know anymore
hot meadow
Maybe JOEL is the name of their program.
alpine seal
the creek is lost again. draupnir is likely soon to follow
the automaton forces are going at 7.5% per hour and all the other planets are worthy collateral for super mecha
autumn plover
Lol
glacial light
Maybe JOEL is the name of their program.
Program? That sounds like automaton chatter
I like to believe the reason turrets friendly fire, we need Helldivers to throw stratagems, and most weapons are dumb fire is super Earth is afraid of creating essentially another cyborg/automaton mess
Got to keep it human levels of dumb
Easier to manage democracy
rapid scaffold
We're back to Dune and the butlerian jihad
hallow hornet
Tbh
upbeat vector
That would explain why you need a level 3 upgrade to stop muzzle-loading your ship's guns
hallow hornet
I cannot blame the dev too much
This is a level of exposure to gamers they genuinely weren't expecting
Its like a small team needing to handle a game's community that's growing incredibly fast in a way none of them predicted
and I think the antagonism of the community, especially on the reddit, probably didn't help
glacial light
Considering arrowhead is probably too small for a full time PR person, they're like around 100 people total right?
hallow hornet
I def feel like if they're talking to this dev, they should also look into having a harsher moderation policy especially when it comes to the subreddit
tbh
limber pike
Once you hit a popularity vortex it’s probably best to have a more stern and harsher moderation is probably necessary just in terms of traffic alone not to mention cry babies
hallow hornet
I do not think I would manage to stay sane in their shoes tbh
so genuinely props to them
glacial light
Considering HD1 had what like 7000 players max?
It's understand they were absolutely not prepared
limber pike
At least on steam yeah I don’t know about PS4
upbeat vector
Was HD1 released on consoles?
limber pike
Yes
tidal wing
That would explain why you need a level 3 upgrade to stop muzzle-loading your sh...
how good were they at muzzle loading literal gatling guns that switching to breechload only increased reload by 10%
stone bridge
I do not think I would manage to stay sane in their shoes tbh
Yeah this is exactly my stance I think
People are being massive whingers about this patch
oblique lotus
Considering HD1 had what like 7000 players max?
7000 average
but yeah HD2 exploded in popularity
rich marlin
God damn it Joel
meager saffron
the flamethrower is a real weapon now! what the fuck!
tidal wing
wait BOTS at Angel’s Venture???
wraith furnace
h o w
rich marlin
That’s what the alert said
glacial light
Ironic flamethrower, the ad clear weapon is a great charger killer
Charger the new ads for the flamethrower
tidal wing
how da fuck
meager saffron
it really dgaf about armor
rich marlin
Or maybe it was bugs idk
glacial light
illuminate
stone bridge
The flamer is hella real now yeah
rich marlin
I just got at alert and the triumph music was playing so I could not hear it
Just the planet
Okay yeah it’s bugs
Still bots would of been funny as hell
tidal wing
I was gonna fucking say
rich marlin
Curve ball of the century
glacial light
What if both? Charger Hulk hybrid
rich marlin
What if both? Charger Hulk hybrid
I’d love to fight it.
I’d hate it, but I would love it
tidal wing
BOT COMMISSAR: “How DID we get here, Krank?”
BOT DEVASTATOR: “You got me. By all accounts it doesn’t make sense”
rich marlin
And now off to work sadly
Did pretty good on my solo easy bot mission
Feeling a lot more confident
golden ledge
Rocks
rich marlin
Meteor storms are both a curse and a blessing
They can take out outposts!
They can also take out you
barren warren
ive died to the new meteors more than the bots themselves
golden ledge
I fucking love the meteor stores
kindred lintel
The map they are set on have large, flat cliffs that can provide cover
I'm glad its on this planet and not somewhere like errata prime
stone bridge
I wanna see fire tornados
keen zinc
<@&1206091872716595200> anyone wanna do some diving?
hot meadow
I cannot blame the dev too much
couldn’t agree more
lilac copper
I'm down
modest fiber
<@&1206091872716595200> anyone wanna do some diving?
i wouldn't mind doing some
keen zinc
47537093
upbeat vector
Yeah
rich marlin
Spawncamping is a viable strat
upbeat vector
Yes I use it to great effect against bots
I enjoy throwing a 500kg as a dropship comes in, timed to explode when the last bot touches the ground
supple siren
Game I'd love if you counted 'A Strategem Jammer Base' as 'Enemy Activity' for the drop pod screen, this was the roughest start to a mission
honest acorn
Flamer+shield is as good as it sounds
For bugs
Flamer is just kind of cranked period and the shield stops you from self-igniting or getting surrounded
gusty lodge
EMS grenades next warbond.
i am unfathomably happy.
on demand get away button going to be good.
rich marlin
From one of our own!
https://twitter.com/ShadeFish1/status/1765769310796959857?s=19
Twitter
gusty lodge
me after hug emoting and dropping cluster bomb at my feet
(i killed approximately 118 bugs and it wasn't even a third of the swarm)
dusty spruce
Most Helldivers are just flash clones of Yuri Lowenthal
rich marlin
Season ending shenanigans?
limber pike
What do you think it'll be like when a faction reaches Earth?
I think the devs are going to go easy until more urban maps
Than the big season ending shenanigans
rich marlin
I think like if they could foreshadow it would ve so cool
Like scattering some POIs on whatever factions worlds with some intel that point to Earth being a target
glad orchid
I think the big season finisher/reveal will be the illuminite/illuminite successors returning yeah
rich marlin
Some subtle news on the ship
modest fiber
bugs are likely heading there cuase food.. also unsure they can leave notes
rich marlin
Humans can tho
Maybe some traitor plotline to tie into the community drama with traitors
glad orchid
A Super Earth splinter faction would be fun
modest fiber
<@&1206091872716595200> time to defend our factory, am requesting more manpower
limber pike
A Super Earth splinter faction would be fun
weirdly enough some one found files outlining a “corporate faction” nobody’s been talking about it so it’s possible to get a super surprise fourth faction I can’t find it now but if I stumbled onto names I will show it was very vague unlike the Illuminate who are definitely outlined and coming
dusty spruce
The EMS Mortars make bug civilian extracts a breeze
stone bridge
Flamer is just kind of cranked period and the shield stops you from self-ignitin...
I wouldn't call the Flamer cranked, its not an S++ weapon like the old Railgun was into bugs, but it's very good
turbid olive
I def feel like if they're talking to this dev, they should also look into havin...
Don't Reddit and/or redditors get really arsey about this?
honest acorn
This is probably a console thing but it honestly feels better into bugs than the OG rail to me
stone bridge
I can't agree with that
turbid olive
Oh cyan I didn't get the bile titan order done earlier btw 
stone bridge
The Railgun was good to the point of completely trivialising Chargers and Biles if you used it properly
It could one shot Biles with the right tech and functionally two shot Chargers on top of staggering them every shot
The Flamer rinses Chargers now, but the range, lack of stagger and the need to pour fire on for a period of time are all actual caveats/downsides
Its an inherently risky weapon
Something the OG Railgun never was
If that makes sense?
oblique storm
The Flamer rinses Chargers now, but the range, lack of stagger and the need to p...
Just use it with someone with the Punisher
eazy peasy
or combine with the stun grenades!
turbid olive
k n o c k b a c k
honest acorn
I can't agree with that
To be clear I mean this subjectively - I don't think its objectively as strong
stone bridge
Ah fair enough
honest acorn
It's easier for me to use continuous fire weapons with the thumbsticks on console and handling chargers+swarms+mediums is better than handing chargers+titans+some mediums
stone bridge
Yeah that's definitely fair
oblique lotus
Its an inherently risky weapon
you can't put three shots into a charger's head cross map with the flamer
stone bridge
Yeah, exactly
turbid olive
What're the controller controls like btw?
stone bridge
Its why I think the flamer has landed in a place where its a very good anti bug weapon, maybe even taking one of the top support slots, but it's not busted
rotund marten
flamer disagrees with me because I always get bowled over while trying to get an actual finish with it
but then again I am number 1 GL enthusiast
so I have a good general-purpose gun anyway
meager saffron
poomp poomp poomp
really my only beef with the GL is that it feels like shit against chargers but I also suck at the bellytech
unreal merlin
Flamer is good for what it obviously is intended to do: cook things at close range and even lay ground DOT to clear incoming enemies which naturally counters bug swarms
honest acorn
What're the controller controls like btw?
They're fine but the game has pretty mild aim assist on console so I can't match mouse aim precision
turbid olive
What're the controller controls like btw?
I'm terminally thumbstick-brained so I play PC with a niche keypad, and it makes typing stratagems a real pain so I might try controller
rotund marten
I have largely stopped trying to kill chargers with it, I just use impacts, railcannon and teammates
oblique lotus
oooh
stealth rocket buffs
also allegedly you can find abandoned mechs on tien kwan
dusty spruce
Flamer is good for what it obviously is intended to do: cook things at close ran...
This. The dev’s stated balance idea is that ‘everything should be great for it’s intended purpose/fantasy’
honest acorn
Which is fine overall but there's a few weapons like the railgun which are somewhat weaker
rotund marten
although I do think the optimal force comp is something like three anti-heavy specialists and John Grenademan for base clearing and anti-medium armour support on objectives
honest acorn
It's been pretty good for me
tidal wing
hey how come I don't have 45 more medals than I did this morning
honest acorn
idk I got mine
stone bridge
https://www.reddit.com/r/Helldivers/comments/1b9293z/comment/kttnvaf/
Oh shit that's big
oblique lotus
welp, time to go looking for mechs
honest acorn
The return of the HD1 EAT
turbid olive
EATing good
honest acorn
(could 1 tap any bug with a well enough aimed shot except for hive lords)
meager saffron
joooooel
turbid olive
I have no medals either fwiw
oblique lotus
also I glanced at the subreddit and it's on fire
I'm assuming the discord is about as bad
dusty spruce
Haven’t noticed anything too bad
turbid olive
Oh no there's acceleration on controller camera
honest acorn
I'm assuming the discord is about as bad
It varies some - the different general channels are developing different cultures
It's kinda cool in the way that discovering a colorful kind of mold under a log is
oblique lotus
is that an insult to mold
kindred lintel
an insult to logs
turbid olive
What's the difference between "tapping" and "pressing" a button on a controller? 🤔
And I guess a key on KB, too
honest acorn
I don’t really mean a real distinction they’re just different words
turbid olive
Yeah but there's a default bind for pressing R and tapping R and idk how that works lmao
turbid olive
I might just unbind melee and not worry about it
Or aim mode ig
If I'm not doing precision stuff
stone bridge
having the option to ADS is important, I wouldn't unbind it
dusty spruce
I crave the return of bayonets
stone bridge
some weapons are just a lot easier to point and shoot in first person on occasion
hot meadow
https://www.reddit.com/r/Helldivers/comments/1b9293z/comment/kttnvaf/
Yessss
meager saffron
the AMR is impossible to aim without first person
honest acorn
Almost all the rifles also have really good scopes in first person
honest acorn
The nerf gun and the dominator don’t which is kind of a bummer
daring monolith
The dominator is really weird
It wants to be accurately fired but lacks a scope and has a slow projectile
honest acorn
It’s so weird
I like how hard it hits though
I think the scorcher might be better a lot of the time
honest acorn
https://youtu.be/bMUbPm8Qp1U?si=OV-0SMCzetTydA0-
Is this an edit or a leak or what?
Different ships changing your stratagem menu sounds interesting
oblique lotus
<@&1206091872716595200> lf2
dusty spruce
The recoilless is really fun, actually
It felt bad when I first used it
But it kills hulks reliably, now
Still wish it didn’t take two to a tank vent to kill it
meager saffron
there are some awkward breakpoints on RR + the lack of a tac reload that make me favor autocannon instead
but with comms I've seen it just melt
glacial light
Woo I got the day off tomorrow, time for some much helldiving
Once I get home from responsibilities
turbid olive
did the status of Tien start at 50% or did Joel pull the brakes?
honest acorn
How come we need to liberate the planet if our mech factories are there?
Shouldn’t we be defending it?
oblique lotus
bots took it in a lightning assault or something
glacial light
How come we need to liberate the planet if our mech factories are there?
The forgot to charge the mechs
honest acorn
I bet the bots are designing mechs are we’re stealing them
glacial light
That's treason talk, what would the bots know about mechanized chassis?
honest acorn
Not much it’s true
glacial light
Ooooo I need 7 more super samples for more eagles
burnt vapor
did the status of Tien start at 50% or did Joel pull the brakes?
It did start at 50%
strange vine
omg you can find exos on the objective planet
https://www.rxddit.com/r/Helldivers/comments/1b94kez/the_mech_suits_are_findable_in_game_now/
glacial light
Guess I know what I'm doing when I get home
turbid olive
cerulean sluice
<@&1206091872716595200> any divers down for 5-7 on the new planet?
cobalt patrol
Idea: Eagle smoke/Smoke grenades + Flamethrower vs bots.
meager sandal
Damn that mech is way faster than in the last game right?
dusty spruce
Yeah, old mech speed would get massacred here
stuck wind
<@&1206091872716595200> i'm still mostly a newbie but anyone want to dive through some hell?
stone bridge
@modest fiber https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3arvs9xSDM
stone bridge
omg you can find exos on the objective planet
https://www.rxddit.com/r/Helldiver...
@oblique lotus
modest fiber
omg you can find exos on the objective planet
https://www.rxddit.com/r/Helldiver...
i have an urge to find this
cerulean sluice
<@&1206091872716595200>
I'm down
barren hull
<@&1206091872716595200>
You bet! I've got 2 hours!
fleet jacinth
I think my squad got the winning cap for Angel's Venture???
I saw it go 99% to 100%
LOL NVM
UI gremlin it were
rich marlin
How goes the war fellow divers?
fleet jacinth
How goes the war fellow divers?
We're gettin mechs soon! Just gotta spill some oil on Tien Kwan
oblique lotus
mechs mechs mechs mechs mechs mechs mechs
rich marlin
Good. I both pray we liberate Tien Kwan fast and that there's still some oil left to spill when i get home
I kinda want to be there when it ticks to 100% but i doubt i will
Whats the current liberation % ?
(And is there an online map that updates with galactic war status?)
rich marlin
Oooo thank you
The 2 day time limit on the Liberation of Tien Kwan is almost hilarious to me
They should try a 24 hour one with a big prize and watch us all panic and clear it half a day
kindred lintel
Well right now everyone wants mechs so
They are basically just going to moon planet
dusty spruce
Mind you, Tien Kwan is prolly gonna regress overnight as peak players drop
And the reinforcement starts to overwhelm people on other timezones
fleet jacinth
hm, I can't decide between the liberator penetrator or the UAV recon boost
on the one hand, survivability. on the other hand, survivability but gun
eh I guess uav
azure pewter
its a sign
stone bridge
4
fleet jacinth
4
azure pewter
4
honest acorn
4
hollow plover
4
kindred lintel
unironically the best dice in that game
quick plinth
depends on how willing you are to use it
dusty spruce
I love it against bots
It may take overlong to kill if you hit only torso
But headshots will melt crowds
hot meadow
depends on how willing you are to use it
If it is good, I am willing to use it!
quick plinth
@hot meadow its takes getting used to but it's good
quick plinth
like
glacial light
7731-5921
quick plinth
its not as viceral as a shotgun
its one continuous beam
but if youre on M&KB then aiming precisely for leg joints and weak points shouldn't be an issue @hot meadow
hot meadow
I am both a very precise shooter and on M&KB.
keen zinc
Shouldn’t we be defending it?
I think the devs know people don't like defends
So instead they had the bots blitz us and now we're retaking it
honest acorn
Might be yeah
autumn plover
i feel defends need to like not having bad reward ngl
like i dont mind the missions but its weird how little rewards they give
rich marlin
Lame
supple siren
I wish defend missions had a little more.. structure?
rich marlin
I understand why, but lame
supple siren
'Constant Bot Drops' just feels.. not very fun
stone bridge
I think the cap is a very good thing
cobalt patrol
Yeah, it's healthy
stone bridge
Stops people from grinding to "get all medals to buy out the next battle pass instantly" and burning out
oblique lotus
Is the scythe any good
it's weird
cobalt patrol
also i'm around should folks want additonal bot smashing buddies
oblique lotus
I quite like it but you need to hit weakspots
which isn't hard because it doesn't ahve recoil
but there's some weird backloaded damage mechanics with laser weapons
rich marlin
'Constant Bot Drops' just feels.. not very fun
I think a defend where the map is a bit bigger where you have to go destroy an outpost or two then hightail it to defend a point for (x) minutes would add a bit of variety
oblique storm
Oh the defends are now way better
I just did one with some randoms on difficulty 8
the extract missions are now ACTUALLY balanced
stone bridge
What do folks think of the gear coming in the new battle pass
Seems pretty damn solid
oblique storm
The armor looks bad to me tbh
rotund marten
I am wondering if I can get the existing passes done by the time the new one drops, but I am looking forward to the autolaser
oblique storm
but the guns look fun
stone bridge
I am wondering if I can get the existing passes done by the time the new one dro...
Define "done"
I think the armour looks alright but I hate the helmets for the most part
rich marlin
Armor design is honestly hit or miss with Helldiver
dusty spruce
I hope they eventually add a way to ‘blend’ armor and helmets. Make them match better
oblique storm
All you need would be some color swatches
stone bridge
Yeag
cobalt patrol
Armor design is honestly hit or miss with Helldiver
I'd like them to decouple perks from looks somehow
like just let me choose a perk, then choose a light armor/med armor/heavy armor look
with the relevant stats
though given there's a spread of light to ultra lgiht
that's problably not happening
@stone bridge The one that caught my eye was the Plasma Punisher, which appears to be a flatout primary grenade launcher
rotund marten
Define "done"
well, I already have everything with stats, so it would literally be fully unlocked
stone bridge
Yeah that's gonna be wild
rotund marten
I've sunk about 2100 medals in already, not that many left
stone bridge
well, I already have everything with stats, so it would literally be fully unloc...
bap don't burn out by being a completionist
rich marlin
I have some drip tendency left over from my time in Destiny so i tend to stick to a look while wanting to improve the stats
cobalt patrol
I'm missing a few armor sets but that's it.
cobalt patrol
I have some drip tendency left over from my time in Destiny so i tend to stick t...
Yeah, similar, i ltook a lot of pride in my fashion game in that
meager saffron
I immediately flagged the medic armor as being shadered with Silver Tactical and immediately got so fucking disappointed in myself
there is absolutely no fucking reason I should still remember shader names
rotund marten
I have been a completionist already, it is basically completed, I only need another 29 supersamples to be literally capped
meager saffron
it's a not-insubstantial part of why I run it
although I think engineer armor is maybe better for my headass playstyle where I try to solo nests
rotund marten
I dislike the light medic armour power ranger suit, which is a shame because it's top tier
blast plating light armour is my go-to
meager saffron
it's crazy just how good 6 xl stims is
rich marlin
it's a not-insubstantial part of why I run it
Same. I can't take a hit, but at least my corpse looks fly
rotund marten
my current fit is pretty nice
meager saffron
see if you're not getting oneshot you're probably able to take even more damage than other armors
rotund marten
meager saffron
is the thing
rotund marten
not very good for my usual insurgent playstyle, though
stone bridge
I've been using the medium medic armour and it's been working damn well so far
meager saffron
I'm just a disgusting speed crutcher
kiting is nuts in this game especially vs bugs
getting into a protracted fight, regenning half your stamina, and then turning on the burners and vamoosing out of a fight is a hell of a drug
cobalt patrol
I was trying light medic armor, but the lack of protection is a bit killer when it comes to hunters.
stone bridge
Yeah I find that if Hunters get to you in light you crumble fast
meager saffron
if you get cc'd then it's a bit ggs but I'm broadly fine with accepting that as part of the risk
it is an unfortunate cost but one that I am happy to pay
stone bridge
If you commit to the bit and run a Defender you have really good kiting ability
meager saffron
love me a Defender
as much as I love the slugger it has really notable crowd control weaknesses when one kill / second isn't good enough
rich marlin
I was trying light medic armor, but the lack of protection is a bit killer when ...
Who needs protection when I have extra drugs
fleet jacinth
It's a shotgun life for me
stone bridge
Yeah folks have been really liking the Slugger but thats a huge weakness that keeps it in check, imo
fleet jacinth
true
cobalt patrol
Who needs protection when I have extra *drugs*
That's why i'm wearing the med medic armor
and yeah, slugger really wants something like flamer to back it up
I had a very funny death with briar yesterday where i flung myself out of the way of a charger
landed
stone bridge
If you need multiple things dead very quickly the Slugger's fire rate kneecaps and probably gets you killed
dusty spruce
Yeah, I love the slugger but usually take a good crowd control strat to back it up
cobalt patrol
and looked up to be surronded by hunters
stone bridge
That was very funny lmao
cobalt patrol
"Guess i'll die"
Yeah, that was a great run for stupid shennagins
esp the clusterfuck at the end
I left briar's corpse at the evac.
I'm not sorry
i got the samples.
rotund marten
I've been enjoying my current solo fit
medium stealth armour looks a lot like "basic helldiver armour but prestiged"
cobalt patrol
8 nursing spewers
I was thinking of our two man game when it was no spewers
and just infinite brood commanders
stone bridge
Yeah I do like the drone tech armour
cobalt patrol
and the resulting hunter swarms
keen zinc
subsonic sabot slugs
stone bridge
Wild
eager pine
Ok, so most times when you pick up a Super Credit stash it gives you ten but I just picked up one that gave me 100
I wonder how much difference 200 armor makes.
stone bridge
Ssome
stark ether
stuck wind
<@&1206091872716595200> anyone wanna do some difficulty 5 tien kwan?
keen zinc
yes okease
stuck wind
hanging out in voice chat so hop in whenever
eager pine
https://youtu.be/Ty4xdg_53r4?si=nSna_TDg8yQ648iB
Thanks
honest acorn
https://youtu.be/Ty4xdg_53r4?si=nSna_TDg8yQ648iB
Worth noting that scavenger melee is weird
Or maybe just melee in general
Armor is more effective than that vs bullets anyway
granite rivet
<@&1206091872716595200> who's up for some Liberation? https://discord.gg/UeBWfaTA
stone bridge
I despise how bugs can randomly crit
cerulean sluice
the fact that the funny mech planet is named Tien Kwan always gets me
dusty spruce
I despise how bugs can randomly crit
I think they're supposed to be getting headshots, somehow?
S'might be a bug, no pun intended
glad marsh
<@&1206091872716595200> who's up for some Liberation? https://discord.gg/UeBWfaT...
You can expect this old veteran on in an hour or two
rich marlin
Yall need to stop helldiving while I'm at work I'm getting jealous XD
granite rivet
Yall need to stop helldiving while I'm at work I'm getting jealous XD
democracy waits for no one! 🦅 💥
rich marlin
I know I just wanna join you 😭
candid finch
Looks like they're drowning
granite rivet
Looks like they're drowning
water is a known enemy of democracy
meager saffron
So one EAT to a hulk eyesocket is a one shot kill
candid finch
Part of me wonders if they were stuck or trying to cheat by being out of range of most stuff
I shot them in case theyw ere stuck
cobalt patrol
I cant tell if you're being sarcastic or not
glacial light
For a glorious moment there were 3 tien kwan liberation teams
rich marlin
We're doing our part!
glad marsh
I cant tell if you're being sarcastic or not
Oh no absolutely not
In the first game EAT would pop just about anything in one shot
When aimed well, of course
stark ether
i want a buff to all weapons with magazines in that the firing sounds get progressively more clicky in the last 5-10% of the mag
glacial light
Even weapons without magazines, I want the EATs to make a nuclear click noise every time
honest acorn
EAT was a main AT option in HD1
I’m glad the next patch is toning down heavy armor some
stark ether
but my eod suit
honest acorn
It’s very hard to handle bot drops with like 4-6 hulks in them haha
honest acorn
but my eod suit
No no enemy heavy armor
glacial light
I love the EATs
honest acorn
There’s no specifics but they’re apparently tuning the enemy mix to have fewer heavies and elites and making them more consistent to kill
glacial light
But they said it's likely gonna be a hotfix
So we don't have to wait until 2nd whatever of next month
fleet jacinth
I love the EATs
stark ether
the dominator good
rotund marten
Kind of a shame, I enjoyed the walls of armour somewhat, but at least I can get my "I soloed prenerf bug Helldive" sticker and then get to enjoy, presumably, 200 hunters
glacial light
I'm torn between trying to get the slugger or dominator
meager saffron
Kind of a shame, I enjoyed the walls of armour somewhat, but at least I can get ...
world is a fuck
the slugger is soooo clean
pre-nerf chaperone vibes
glacial light
The issue is while I love the idea of being to one shot headshot berserkers I cannot aim to save my life
rotund marten
Slugger is probably the best gun in the game
stark ether
The issue is while I love the idea of being to one shot headshot berserkers I ca...
i too have potato aim
honest acorn
Kind of a shame, I enjoyed the walls of armour somewhat, but at least I can get ...
Honestly mids spam will I think be harder
But it’ll mean less “everybody pack AT”
Which is nice for build diversity
I ran into a really interesting play style with randoms today
stark ether
i want a proper flame thrower instead of an oversized propane torch
honest acorn
Shield generator+turrets
glacial light
I found the rocket eagles are really nice for taking out bot heavies
honest acorn
Making a little fire base again and again and again
glacial light
The idea of having 3 rocket eagles every 240 seconds is very appealing
honest acorn
Rockets are great for tanks and literally hit or miss for hulks ime
I’m considering swapping my rockets for 500kg
But 500kg isn’t consistent for hulks either
glacial light
How do rockets do against bugs can it take out chargers and bile titans in 1 hit
rotund marten
Making a little fire base again and again and again
This sounds like a real bastard if you have the +50% strat cooldown modifier, though
honest acorn
No but it will expose weak spots on bile titans
honest acorn
This sounds like a real bastard if you have the +50% strat cooldown modifier, th...
Yeah I think you just don’t in that case
It worked really well though
rotund marten
that's getting a bit old on the current planet already
honest acorn
And the shield gen was awesome for meteor showers
meager saffron
+50% strat cooldown is heinous
glacial light
The worst
rotund marten
Meteor shower really loves to mess up my beautiful roaming by randomly killing me and forcing me to respawn at team
no roaming
bonk
honest acorn
It’s gotta be one of if not the most significantly negative ones
glacial light
Devs say stratagems are key to taking down big enemies
Also devs: Makes stratagem cooldown longer
honest acorn
Shield+turrets was really impressive though
glacial light
I kind of want like a mother of all extraction or boy defense where it's 4 EMS and 4 mortars
honest acorn
Just kills everything can can actually (combined with player attacks and red call ins) completely destroy mass bot drops on 8+
But the cds are long and it’s inflexible
We had a really hilarious strat where we hot dropped onto the main objective and immediately dropped the shield+turrets
stark ether
I'm torn between trying to get the slugger or dominator
they are quite similar, i find the dominator has better handling and is better for burst situations, but if you play it right the slugger has better sustain
hot meadow
I think it's kind of amazing how helldivers straddles parody while at the same time making me feel genuinely cool.
meager saffron
slugger has pretty bad crowd control but its ability to oneshot even heavy targets is astonishing
you just need to aim for weakspot
pale remnant
I find it kinda funny the explosive ar got renamed to the concussive ar
honest acorn
Yeah
It’s a shame it’s such ass
Fulfills a niche which other weapon don’t at least
But the niche is bad
pale remnant
it's so bad, lol
rotund marten
Slugger is pretty decent at chunking warriors and hunters, I don't mind it for CC against anything other than zerker or devastator packs
meager saffron
has a ttk of half an eon
pale remnant
Wow, I can use the entire magazine to hold a single enemy in place 
meager saffron
it has a pretty deep mag but the issue is that it just has a firerate of 1
stark ether
the punisher has hella stagger, one shot pushes a brood commander back like 10 feet
meager saffron
even though you will probably kill whatever you shoot with that 1 bullet
fleet jacinth
I love punisher
meager saffron
I did love that about the darktide shotgun
causing people to just bowl the fuck over
stark ether
honestly the punisher didnt need a buff, just fixing the ammo pickup made it top tier
rotund marten
You can stunlock brood commanders and Devastators, and oneshotting everything means it's far easier to just work through a horde
meager saffron
just gotta backpedal a loooooot
rotund marten
I should maybe try the Punisher again for bugs
meager saffron
I think scatter is probably better overall for bugs and staggering them to expose legs seems like it would make life easier
rotund marten
Slugger seems pretty much the Bot weapon unless you want the Scorcher rapid fire and strider elimination
honest acorn
Punisher works similarly enough to the slugger that I honestly picked up a slugger instead once and didn’t realize for about 5 minutes
fleet jacinth
I should maybe try the Punisher again for bugs
Recommend, though also recommend a guard dog since I feel punisher’s more a team tool
meager saffron
slugger reaaaally wants a guard dog so you don't feel like you're just wasting half your ammo on little dipshits
stone bridge
Y'all sleeping on the Defender tbh
honest acorn
My current goto for bugs has been Dominator/Senator, Flamer+shield+ napalm strike+500kilo
meager saffron
i think i would carry around the defender more if i bought the ballistic shield
pale remnant
honestly a rover feels super good on bugs no matter what you're running
fleet jacinth
Y'all sleeping on the Defender tbh
Defender’s absolutely great
meager saffron
the defender being I think the literally one and only onehand weapon feels like it should be more of a niche
honest acorn
I sometimes use rockets but I like how the 500kilo can close bug holes and such better
meager saffron
but I think HDD escort missions are the only real case I can think of where I go 'oh yeah I wish I had this gun'
pale remnant
Having something to cover your ass from all the little floor lice really comes in clutch
stone bridge
The kiting ability it has is nuts
honest acorn
Defender also deals insanely high damage at short and medium range
meager saffron
ballistic shield is pretty handily just outclassed by the energy shield
honest acorn
It’s like 2-3 place in terms of raw DPS in the tank iirc
fleet jacinth
ballistic shield is pretty handily just outclassed by the energy shield
More accessible tho
meager saffron
in part because you don't fuckin have to pick up the energy shield again if you get ragdolled
honest acorn
Though this is not much of a stat
rotund marten
I am still all in on AC for bots and GL for bugs
stone bridge
The big thing about it being one handed is that you can fire backwards while walking without being slowed down
fleet jacinth
Leadt st lower levels
stone bridge
Which makes it amazing for kiting
meager saffron
oh it's more accessible but once you hit 20 you throw it in the bin
fleet jacinth
oh it's more accessible but once you hit 20 you throw it in the bin
True
meager saffron
which feels a little sad
pale remnant
I am still all in on AC for bots and GL for bugs
I do flamer for bugs and amr for bots myself
honest acorn
I like the flamer because it kills the fuck out of anything but bile titans
And with sufficient bravery also kills bile titans
pale remnant
It can kill bile titans? I've struggled to kill them with it
meager saffron
you mean you're not meant to constantly nutmeg bile titans
all the time
this is strange
honest acorn
It can kill bile titans? I've struggled to kill them with it
Apply torch to face for a bit and somehow don’t die while doing it
It’s straightforward but stupidly risky
pale remnant
That said my usual bile titan strat is hope someone else on the team can clip it or run away
cobalt patrol
I actually want to try melting the leg on a bile
stone bridge
It also takes a good long while
meager saffron
honestly the more I play the more I think the only threat of a bile titan is being distracted by ads
cobalt patrol
seems safer, lol
meager saffron
or just them having no sound cue
glad orchid
EATs can take out bile titans pretty good in my experience
Two shots to the back took one out for me
meager saffron
dgmw they're a giant slab of meat but I am frankly more scared of a well-timed charger
glad marsh
Charger > Bile titan on the threat scale tbh
honest acorn
I actually want to try melting the leg on a bile
They’re not a weak point like the charger weak points I don’t think
So you can eventually
stone bridge
EATs is a one shot on a bile if you land a shot on the webbing that connects its jaws
glad marsh
You can actually bloody hit the thing in the spot you need to much easier
cobalt patrol
They’re not a weak point like the charger weak points I don’t think
Well, charger legs arent a weak point either until they get melted
and the flamer does melt teh armor off
glad marsh
Whereas chargers well..
Charge
Constantly
pale remnant
Charger > Bile titan on the threat scale tbh
With the buffed flamer, chargers are less of a threat for me while I've got it on me
honest acorn
I think the flamer just deals good damage though them but maybe I’m misunderstanding the scoring on their armor
meager saffron
I need to try the flamer on proper high diff runs
oblique lotus
the defender being I think the literally one and only onehand weapon feels like ...
knight but that costs actual money
pale remnant
Bile titans or getting flanked by the jumpy guys is what usually gets me now
meager saffron
I'm usually the autocannon bitch
honest acorn
I recommend using the shield as well with it
meager saffron
yeah that seems to be the rec
honest acorn
Helps you avoid catching fire
stone bridge
The shield helps a bunch
meager saffron
flamethrower
pale remnant
no need for drone either
I quite like the drone even with the flamer tbh
keen zinc
keen zinc
rest in peace akira toriyama
honest acorn
But it’s really solid and flexible because the direct application of the fire has incredibly high DPS and you can ignite the ground to make impromptu firebreaks/napalm strikes to kill smalls
cobalt patrol
I think the flamer just deals good damage though them but maybe I’m misunderstan...
There armor has some kid of damage/health score at which it breaks. You can see this with the laser too, where it starts with the deflect animation and then punches an actual hole into the armor with sustained fire
meager saffron
oh wait it actually lights the grond now
cobalt patrol
arc thrower also tears small holes in armor
honest acorn
oh wait it actually lights the grond now
Yeah it’s 50% of the reason you set yourself on fire haha
(The rest is 40% leapers/hunters and 10% other ime)
pale remnant
good old leapers
meager saffron
suicide units just bum-rushing you while on fire, classic
honest acorn
There armor has some kid of damage/health score at which it breaks. You can see ...
Interesting
meager saffron
ninjas can't catch you, etc
honest acorn
Maybe it’s just punching a little hole?
It’s hard for me to see with all the flame particles
pale remnant
Yeah, flamers seem to cut some armour off chargers
stone bridge
oh wait it actually lights the grond now
always did!
oblique lotus
my sole criticism of the laser cannon is that it's kinda hard to aim with with the beam on
you have a choice between third person which doesnt' have enough zoom or first person where half the sight picture is obscured by the giant yellow laser and weapon
meager saffron
paid cosmetic helmet with sodium lenses for this exact purpose
oblique lotus
sunglass helmet when
honest acorn
you have a choice between third person which doesnt' have enough zoom or first p...
God the FPV is horrible for it
It’s such a good gun now it just has horrible ergonomics
meager saffron
i got gaslit into enjoying this by trace rifles
and i am now fundamentally broken
honest acorn
What I really want is a real zoom scope for it
Since it’ll kill a hulk at 300 meters if your pixel hunting is good
Though for me it’s mostly wondering if the blue sparks have disappeared because I’m hitting the eye or no longer hitting the hulk
cobalt patrol
Maybe it’s just punching a little hole?
It absolotuey melts a big hole with the flamer, briar can confirm - there's qwuite visible leg damage if you focus on a leg
honest acorn
Neat, I guess I’m just missing that vfx while looking at all the fire and avoiding enemies
cobalt patrol
The main trick vs chargers is you've gotta focus fire a limb
spreading it around just wastes ammo, you can kill in 30 rounds or less if your aim is good
honest acorn
What proportion of a canister is 30 rounds?
(I just realized I’ve never opened the flamers gun menu haha)
pale remnant
I've found it takes between half and 2 thirds
cobalt patrol
What proportion of a canister is 30 rounds?
Flamer has 100 rounds
quick plinth
hulks seem to take like 2 to 3 Javelins, which is just absurd when Javelins oneshot tanks
and also considering just how ammo hungry Javelins are
Spear****
cerulean sluice
honestly Hulks seem really hard to kill given their relative commonality early on
quick plinth
the only things that reliability take them out is the orbital rail cannon and maybe 500kgs
110s dont seem to damage them much
merry cosmos
the only things that reliability take them out is the orbital rail cannon and ma...
Orbital laser
supple siren
I mean they die pretty quick in the Big Honking Weakpoint to an autocannon
or some headshots
supple siren
speaking of bot bases: improved 380MM does some work
supple siren
I've gotten a few medium bases with it since the buff! idk
Must just be that silly RNG
quick plinth
since the buff ive killled not a single thing with it
unreal merlin
I always forget how easy mode orbital laser is vs base destruction objectives
quick plinth
expect maybe myself once
supple siren
I always forget how easy mode orbital laser is vs base destruction objectives
I always love to imagine the engineer on the ship, just drawing the laser on the map with a stylus
'get rid of thaaat, that, that too..'
it's so Specific and Wrath of God-ish
meager saffron
120 has had the most noticeable glowup but I think the 380 is just best for throwing down after a bot drop gets called in
kindred lintel
the amount of situations 380 is useful is slim
meager saffron
it's somehow still not super likely to splash bases
but a high volume of sustained fire takes care of most incoming giant waves of idiots
cerulean sluice
it really depends on the angle it comes in at
fleet jacinth
I heard some recommendations about the 120 and 380, mainly maybe a little bit of guidance so they hit targets more often
meager saffron
120 got tightened up significantly and it does absolutely fucktons of damage
easily the most improved gem
stone bridge
negative
Havoc, please don't refute someone's positive experience by going "actually it does nothing"
oblique storm
380 is good now
honest acorn
120 seems generally solid now
stone bridge
It's just kinda toxic
cobalt patrol
honestly Hulks seem *really* hard to kill given their relative commonality early...
Railgun pops them good, eats pop them good
meager saffron
I think it's fair to say the 380 is still pretty RNG
honest acorn
380 I think is only reliable vs large targets but it’s good for them
cobalt patrol
380 is basically "You want this base, and everything in it and around it gone?"
meager saffron
so the risk of blue falcons is still pretty high and hitting a specific point is still a gamble
honest acorn
Though it’s really funny when it doesn’t finish the base off for 18 seconds
fleet jacinth
My thing with 120/380 is “but bigger number = bigger boom?” clarification this is my thought process lol
cobalt patrol
I prefer the 120 now which is very very good as a dedicated "Fuck this location" button
meager saffron
TZP will attest that I dive-threw a 380 like 100 meters out from the perimeter of our extraction and it was still routinely killing people inside the base, yet further from the throw point
cobalt patrol
honestly Hulks seem *really* hard to kill given their relative commonality early...
Though both EATS and Railgun rely on a good aim.
Impacts to the vents do good damage, and the vents are very vulernable to a lot of priamry weapons - i know the Scorcher and Slugger rip them up
cobalt patrol
TZP will attest that I dive-threw a 380 like 100 meters out from the perimeter o...
It was GREAT
honest acorn
What I really want just for cool factor is a MRSI barrage
cobalt patrol
i was laughing so hard
dusty spruce
I've used the 380 a little with the update, but not the 120 yet. At the very least I don't feel like I'm taking my life into my hands everytime I throw it out now
cobalt patrol
not even mad when you mulched me repetadly
honest acorn
380 is basically a mildly more intentional meteor in terms of size it feels like
But the bangs are a lot bigger
fleet jacinth
Also I have a hate/love relationship with the new meteor/eruption storms. On the one hand, good incentive to do things quicker and can help out with hordes (turns out meteors can take out bot drop ships!) on the other hand
MUST STARE AT SKY OR ELSE GET DIE
stone bridge
honest acorn
You can just avoid the spotlights on the ground
stone bridge
We'll be done by tomorrow morning at this rate
fleet jacinth
You can just avoid the spotlights on the ground
oh shoot they have spotlights?
oblique lotus
honestly Hulks seem *really* hard to kill given their relative commonality early...
3-4 seconds of zap to the faceplate with a laser cannon will clear them
honest acorn
They glow for a while (ok a couple seconds) before they hit
keen zinc
if the europeans dont fail us
oblique lotus
you can dump most small arms into the vents to kill them
honest acorn
It’s MUCH easier to see at night
fleet jacinth
It’s MUCH easier to see at night
True
Also learned the hardway the punisher doesn’t have a flashie
fleet jacinth
I'm doing my part
honest acorn
Joel is coming
fleet jacinth
I love the laser cannon as my own little death star
candid finch
mechs are a powerful motivator
upbeat vector
I wonder if I'll still get the medals?
dusty spruce
You will, I think
fleet jacinth
Yeah
candid finch
I believe so
dusty spruce
and also maybe you'll get to play with the mechs before any of us
(depending on if they auto drop them or not)
candid finch
I still might prefer the AMR for taking out devastators long distance though
When I have an actual team that are super cool
fleet jacinth
I love my marksman for robots
candid finch
and the railgun still chunks folk.
The lazer I find is best for taking down the beserkers
because I can just sweep at them and they get melted, while I find it harder to aim at them with AMR
dusty spruce
Devastator and Berserker headshots are nicely rewarding
fleet jacinth
True
dusty spruce
seeing that big gout of flame
stone bridge
the AMR has the issue where its zeroed in to a certain range
honest acorn
I find it works best on the middle setting
stone bridge
so if you're under that range your shots can just go over their heads
meager saffron
the AMR is unusable on 50m setting
meager saffron
feels like trying to piss uphill in a snowstorm
kindred lintel
Is that why I can't hit anything with it?
meager saffron
almost certainly
fleet jacinth
True
dusty spruce
I feel like that's a problem with some scopes in general *in this game. It feels better firing regular zoomed as opposed to ADS'd
honest acorn
Yeah it hits high with the 50 meter setting
I think the other two settings are about right
candid finch
I pretty much only use the middle setting or third if I'm trying to sneak around
stone bridge
I might try and keep hammering away at learning the AMR, because it does seem really good into bots overall
candid finch
One thing to note: it can fire surprisingly quickly. Don't be afraid to fan the hammer if you're panicking
dusty spruce
Can the AMR kill the illegal broadcast towers?
candid finch
I think it can because you just need to do damage it's just not the most damage compared to explosion
stone bridge
One grenade will do it
candid finch
There's also a panel at the bottom of the tower that lets you turn it off
dusty spruce
But that's less fun to watch :)
plus then nobody has to deal with the enemies grouped around it
the bugs know how to guard 5G towers
candid finch
Nothing more fun than managed democracy
meager saffron
huh
candid finch
They need to really find a way to deal with cannon turrets
because they have such range and power they're not really fun to play around
dusty spruce
The Spear murders them from miles away, and the rocket pods were really good against them
but suddenly it feels like the pods have way shorter range
meager saffron
autocannon the goat
fleet jacinth
The cannon turrets are the delete guns lol
honest acorn
Spear is I think the best way
RR/EAT works pretty well too
Lascannon and AC work but its sometimes annoying to expose the vent
stone bridge
They also die to all the standard building killers
dusty spruce
Eagle-1 will keep you safe
stone bridge
Airstrikes, 500kg, orbital precision, hell an orbital gas strike will do it if you hit with the actual artillery shell
candid finch
I dunno I saw a 500 drop right beside it and it didn't even seem to reach, and most of those don't hit the SECOND cannon turret
unkempt river
<@&1206091872716595200> my game is finally fixed and we are raring to go. I'll be in HA
stone bridge
I'll have to do some more testing, but I don't think they're too bad imo
glad marsh
<@&1206091872716595200> my game is finally fixed and we are raring to go. I'll b...
desperately waiting for our game to update unfortunately
but if anyone's still around we'd be happy to hop in
though we're rather rusty, it's been about a week since we last played..
honest acorn
I think they're literally tank turrets on a tower as 2 impacts to the rear will also kill them
stone bridge
They are
They have the same animations and everything, down to the beam glinting in the barrel as they're charging a shot to warn you they're about to fire
dusty spruce
I dunno I saw a 500 drop right beside it and it didn't even seem to reach, and m...
that's also because 500kg are really really really wonky. The AOE is smaller than the effect might make you think, and I think it can be stopped by some weird terrain that it really shouldn't be.
meager saffron
500kg is more like an orbital precision strike with a second charge
stone bridge
fleet jacinth
Ye
autumn plover
the game seemingly decided i couldnt equip four strats and a booster this mission...
weird
fleet jacinth
Huh
autumn plover
and seemingly the rest of my team could is the odd part
honest acorn
There's a mission modifier which means you only get 3
stone bridge
Yup
honest acorn
But if it only effected you it might be a bug
I did have a really surreal issue where seemingly the rest of the team wasn't effected by it when I joined an in progression mission in the load screen
Which may have been the same bug
fleet jacinth
I think the laser cannon is my new second favorite, first being the EATs
hot meadow
very impressed at how atmospheric tien kwan is, but absolutely convinced spawns are bugged
copper crest
EATs were slept on
hot meadow
EATs feel like a must take for me now
fleet jacinth
EATs are def a go to if you can’t make up your mind
copper crest
A lot of people preferred RR over EAT pre-patch but now it's swung to EAT despite neither changing
fleet jacinth
I think below level 20 it’s anyone’s game, above 20 railgun seems to be the preference. But the patch has shaken things up, which is nicw
cobalt patrol
I'm struggling to use the laser cannon, myself
hot meadow
I don't realy get the laser cannon. Any tips?
cobalt patrol
still loving the railgun vs bots
It's a very good gun (The laser cannon) it just doesnt fit my flow
fleet jacinth
I don't realy get the laser cannon. Any tips?
Generally aim at the same weakpoints you would with a normal weapon, but it can burrow through enemy armor if need be
Hiveguards, scout walkers, etc can be hotgunned down regardless where you hit them at
daring monolith
A lot of people preferred RR over EAT pre-patch but now it's swung to EAT despit...
they've both been stealth buffed aiui
in terms of dealing more consistent damage
but yeah neither more than the other
fleet jacinth
Also preferred to use it at range and if you have a buddy have them run distraction so you can gun em with the beam
Oh and remember to crouch/prone for reduced sway!
Scoping in can really help to hit those weakspots
limber pike
If you’re having a hard time shooting walkers with the lazer canon hit than when it falls down you can kill the bot quickly
hot meadow
I think I am also re falling in love with the grenade launcher
hot meadow
Generally aim at the same weakpoints you would with a normal weapon, but it can ...
I shally try this again, thanks
limber pike
If you’re having a hard time shooting walkers with the lazer canon hit than when...
If there are a lot just hit legs the basic bot isn’t as bad without the walker
fleet jacinth
I shally try this again, thanks
👍
limber pike
I think I am also re falling in love with the grenade launcher
The tip for this is to aim for the ground because sometimes the projectile bounces off armor
fleet jacinth
Grenade launcher is also definitely great, especially for quickly filling bug holes/factories and popping targets at range
keen zinc
fleet jacinth
Democracy Dog
keen zinc
autumn plover
man i just randomly crashed in the middle of a mission that was going well
guess thats me for the night
since divers keeps fighitng me for wanting to play it lol
fleet jacinth
I feel ya
hot meadow
wtf dude
spawned in solo to a four
three chargers
wasn't even a danger zone
how is this right
stark ether
its not and its being looked into
glad marsh
my god it's been so long since I've played that my super destroyer is still on the creek
hot meadow
I love this game, but this is actually unplayable
stark ether
theres a planned hotfix (unknown timing) that will tone down the heavy unit spawns
glad marsh
AND I AM IN AN OP FOR IT
holy moly
alright
uh
<@&1206091872716595200> I have a run on the creek at diff 6, who's in?
glad marsh
oh we'll wait for a squad
it's not like any randos can actually join us here
oh
wait
we're liberating malevelon again
huh
I'll wait around in HA
hot meadow
theres a planned hotfix (unknown timing) that will tone down the heavy unit spaw...
Thanks for the info. God do I hope it is soon.
stark ether
the exact message was
I can confirm that we're currently looking at changes to the spawn rates and health pools of heavy enemies, and will be attempting to spread them out more to prevent large spikes of tougher mobs appearing at the same time, as well as making them a bit easier to bring down. This change should go out in a future hotfix - no date as of yet.
ivory swallow
This shit goes hard https://youtu.be/aVsKuysw5Eg?feature=shared
Yes this is propoganda
Yes it’s working
Triple the fleet budget
hot meadow
the exact message was
```I can confirm that we're currently looking at changes ...
Mmmf, I kind of am unhappy with the message
I am glad they're looking at bringing it down, but to me it feels specifically like they sharply brought it up with this patch (either as a bug, or they just didn't say anything)
Actually, no, I'm just being salty.
glad orchid
Too tired otherwise I’d join for democracy
hot meadow
It's a fine statement, I'm just malding lol
glad orchid
Didn’t mean to stay up so late
stone bridge
yeah I'd take a step back from this Steamed
glad marsh
we got 2 spots still here!
rich marlin
What difficulty y’all running? I am still young and not that good
stone bridge
water under the bridge
glad marsh
you're all good
get some rest soldier
glad marsh
What difficulty y’all running? I am still young and not that good
whatever you want
hot meadow
mechs ❤️ _ ❤️
stone bridge
Something to even up the fight with
hot meadow
Yeah honestly I am having a bunch of fun
hot meadow
I was just super flabbergasted at all the chargers in that one mission
tilted me off the face of the earth
the super earth
glad marsh
in 100 years, we've finally moved from the EXO-44 to EXO-45
fleet jacinth
really lookin at the super cruiser, it's really more super yacht sized lol
relatively anyway (probably)
rich marlin
I expect by the time I wake up, we'll have Tien Kwan
glad marsh
To be fair we also have the EXO-48 and whatever number the lumberer is
The lumberer is the EXO-44 iirc
glad marsh
really lookin at the super cruiser, it's really more super yacht sized lol
Wah
We can see them???
stark ether
super destroyers
fleet jacinth
👍
stark ether
super cruisers is from a voiceline about how expensive the average helldiver mission costs
fleet jacinth
yeah super destroyers are kinda yacht sized lol
glad marsh
They're certainly not as large as modern naval destroyers
But you gotta give em credit, they pack a lot into em
fleet jacinth
oh definitely
burnt vapor
The lumberer is the EXO-44 iirc
I looked it up earlier, in the first game it was 44,48 and 51 for the Walker, Obsidian and Lumberer respectively
copper crest
I expect by the time I wake up, we'll have Tien Kwan
It might backslide as American players sleep
alpine seal
the opposing rate got jacked up even more to 6.50% and is falling right now, so yeah
unkempt river
<@&1206091872716595200> Managed Democracy never sleeps, and neither should you!
jolly mortar
Alright, Laser fucks now.
junior badge
aaagh
jolly mortar
It's trickier than the railgun to hit hulks through the eye long enough to kill it, but still satisfying as hell. I can pop devs like no tomorrow.
merry cosmos
Alright, Laser fucks now.
Ikr!
stone bridge
the opposing rate got jacked up even more to 6.50% and is falling right now, so ...
Opposing rate?
junior badge
I was stealthing my way through a diff7 and crash
jolly mortar
As long as I see rocket devs first, they're zero problem now. Laser pops their rocket packs like instantly.
junior badge
that's so frustrating since the latest patch
jolly mortar
and yeah I just crashed out of a Diff 6
Punisher is honstly pretty solid now, too. Feels like it actually has a use.
barren iron
