#Helldivers 2: For Managed Democracy!

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honest acorn
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I honestly just fire from 3rd person a lot with the railgun

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I mostly just use it for chargers

steady bone
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hullo fellow hellers, one question, and an odd one at that...is there a way in game to turn off the HUD and UI in game?

daring monolith
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I’ve been using it vs bots (mostly because that’s what my crew likes fighting) and it shreds what the autocannon bounces off

vestal trail
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I like the railgun alot, but yeah, the sights leave a lot to be desired

honest acorn
rotund marten
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Autocannon does tanks better than the railgun in my experience

honest acorn
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Vs bots I really like the autocannon, but the AMR works in a pinch and the spear is actually fairly useful (the ammo issues are so real though)

steady bone
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Nice thank you for that.

rotund marten
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It's very quick to triple tap the vents with it, the railgun has to reload twice

honest acorn
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vs bugs there just isn't anything else which can pen a charger's leg armor up close and not blow me up

rotund marten
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Scorcher, amazingly, can magdump tanks and cannon towers in a reasonable length of time

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although you need to be pretty much in the middle of the rear arc or it'll rotate away before you're quite done

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God tier for bots, mixed for bugs

cobalt patrol
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Yeah, tanks are whati use impacts for

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Or my corpse.

stone bridge
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The AC can two tap Hulks with two very precise shots to their small head, and kills tanks with three shots to the rear heat sink on a flank

rotund marten
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I would like a martyrdom booster just because I want to embrace diving into bug holes once you're out of grenades

stone bridge
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Failing hitting a Hulk's head you can dismember their weapon arms with like 4 shots to the limb joints

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It handles them just fine

rotund marten
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The headshot is a bit finnicky sometimes but the arms are easy

daring monolith
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Will have to remember that.

rotund marten
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The more we play the more ways we find to trivialise heavier armour

stone bridge
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George'ing a hulk is pretty trivial yeah

rotund marten
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The main really tanky bastards are Bile Titans at this point

stone bridge
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Best against Scorchers, since the flamer is the big instakill threat

cobalt patrol
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George is the official name for a armless Hulk.

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To be clear

honest acorn
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Bile Titans are wild

rotund marten
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Autocannon being able to turn anything the bots have to jam really makes it the god weapon once you know the hit locations and are confident without the personal shield

honest acorn
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They just inexplicably survive all kinds of shit

cobalt patrol
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It's actually harder to George a Hulk with the Railgun than it is to just kill them.

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I don't understand Biles. I've done the one shot railgun kill, I know it's possible

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I've killed two with one Railgun shot before!

daring monolith
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I’m nearing confidence without the personal shield. Still not quite there.

cobalt patrol
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And then I've had so fucking many survive all kinds of Railgun shots too the skull etc

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500kg underneath them seems the most reliable

rotund marten
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The grenade launcher is better at mulching groups of scout walkers, infantry and devastators than the autocannon, especially when they drop in tight balls, but it's much worse at hulks and tanks and doesn't have absurd building snipe range

rotund marten
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I can see meta bot teams being one GL with supply pack and three autocannons

honest acorn
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I did mass ACs one time and it was hilarious

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everyone can buddy load

cobalt patrol
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Supply pack is 100% slept on

honest acorn
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not that the AC really needs it

cobalt patrol
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Esp since picking up supplies with it reloads everything as normal and gives you extra charges in the pack

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And at one point when I ate a pack I had 7/6 grenades, which was a thing

meager saffron
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🤔

hollow plover
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Yeah it's just good in every situation

gritty sundial
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why my arm fucked up <XD

hollow plover
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Everyone has to fight for Freedom™️, no matter the age, ability, or cognitive function

stone bridge
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I think the Railgun is way more consistent for Hulks, so it has a place on a bot team, but the AC is definitely a swiss army knife there

honest acorn
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Yeah the railgun doing damage instead of fuck all if you miss the eye is nice for hulks

gritty sundial
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can anyone play with? <@&1206091872716595200>

cobalt patrol
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It's like 3 oc if you miss the eye, and it staggers them

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Which I really like

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My favourite is abusing the piercing of the Railgun to send it through multiple enemies and still kill the Hulk

stone bridge
honest acorn
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It's so satisfying when you shoot a devastator in the face and get the 3x skull

strange vine
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i think someone has described why hulks are so much better/fun to deal with than chargers as hulks having more "interactability" and i think that explains it a ton

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with a hulk you can hit the head, break off the arms, or hit the heat vents

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with a wide variety of weapons

gritty sundial
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Do operations you've partially completed stay active if you exit the game?

strange vine
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with the charger you either hit the leg or you hit the ass, very little interactability

gritty sundial
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Oh thank god

jolly mortar
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only resets if you start a different operation, to my understanding

gritty sundial
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very good and cool

honest acorn
cobalt patrol
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The back legs open up to normal weapons after they crash into a obstacle, but that's very non obvious with chargers

rotund marten
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I still haven't got the achievement for killing a charger with the resupply pod, apparently a clean headshot doesn't do it

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which means you need to damage a charger, presumably with a few railguns, then get it wedged somewhere

honest acorn
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I bet you could just EMS strike one

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I need to remember to use it more

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short cd, extremely fast call in time, basically freezes enemies

jolly mortar
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that's my thought. have two people pack EMS so you can stun it, fuck it up some, then stun it again and hit it with the resupply

rich marlin
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Opened up Twitter to find some memes only to be met with the news we lost Malevelion Creek which is kinda sad ngl i wanted funny and instead i got hit with feels

daring monolith
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It’s back open for liberation now

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Apparently

rich marlin
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Ngl tho, some the art slaps

glacial light
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Although I think it's fair considering it eats up 2 stratagem slots, back slot, and heavy slot

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Spamming railgun like a primary

jolly mortar
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that sounds silly as hell and I'm real tempted to try it

glacial light
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It's really effective against bots

jolly mortar
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because I usually wind up being the designated Hulk-hunter because railgunning them through the eye is so fuckin' fun

cobalt patrol
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It's so fun!

jolly mortar
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it IS

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equally as fun is shooting a rocket dev's rocket packs off

rich marlin
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Seriously thinking about doing a marathon Helldiver day Saturday

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Not like i have much else to do.

autumn plover
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lol yeah i can respect just wanting to say fuckit as a change of pace. but i also respect the devs for being pretty clear in their goals and wanting to just focuse on said goals as well.

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i mean hell the first thing i did in first mission with my gf was end up in a small jokey gunfight

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everybody loves a wholesome game of dance around the blind fired hmg lol

jolly mortar
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i think the difference is that's not really competitive pvp so much as it is just fucking around for fun

autumn plover
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def

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which is fine imo

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cuz like its something you and friends have decided to do for the fuck of it

jolly mortar
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yeah. some amount of bullshitting is fun when you're not doing, like, diff 6 and up where taking it seriously matters.

autumn plover
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instead of it being some crazy try hard screeching in all chat or something in an actual pvp lol

rich marlin
honest acorn
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Someone in the discord said they got a mech drop, idk if they're lying or if the GM pitied them or if it was a hack or what but its interesting (they are lying nothing ever happens)

unkempt flax
unreal merlin
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Never forget that whatever happens, there's always the possibility that your misfortune is the result of direct GM intervention and not a genuine skill issue on your part.

jolly mortar
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partner sent me footage of the mech in-gameplay. looks like it's ingame already, just not fully functional and unlocked

cobalt patrol
cobalt patrol
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Entirely valid

unreal merlin
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the HMG emplacement actually kind of rocks if you use it wisely

jolly mortar
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it seems super situational because of how slow it turns

unreal merlin
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it also can just directly shoot objectives like bot AA guns/mortars to blow them up

jolly mortar
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like probably shines defending an extraction with good choke points

unreal merlin
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if you look for good spots you can often find decent places to put it out in the field for mowing down a patrol or into a base

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it's certainly a situational thing and you gotta go out of your way to use it to full value tho

meager sandal
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Smh gen z and their participation trophies

eager pine
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Apparently just under 5% of steam players have not even finished basic training...

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I kinda have to wonder who those people are...

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Maybe just people who gave up completely after they couldn't get into the servers?

candid finch
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Some folk just buy stuff and never play it

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rich folk

glacial light
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The turret section probably got a lot of people

eager pine
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The part where you have to press the button to go prone?

glacial light
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Yea

eager pine
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Like... they couldn't figure out how to press the button so they gave up?>

glacial light
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It took me at least 3 tries before I noticed the little text saying to dive here.

But also I wonder if it counts skipping the tutorial

unreal merlin
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isn't the first time people acquire a game and never touch it

eager pine
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I think you have to play it to count as a player don't you?

pale remnant
glacial light
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No if you exit it then you can just play, or game crashes

eager pine
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DIdn't know that.

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Now I'm shuddering to think how many of my worst experiences with PUGs are players who skipped the tutorial...

strange vine
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its very funny

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very awkward "uhhh yeah i think you have to dive and stay prone in order to get past the turrets"

ivory swallow
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<@&1206091872716595200> anyone wanna help out a newbie and dive some hells?

honest acorn
glacial light
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Same

ivory swallow
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OK

strange vine
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escape room attendant watching the customers really fuck up the puzzle energy

eager pine
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And let's be clear. In universe she's not telling you after so many attempts. She's telling the whatever number person after she's watched however many recruits that came before them in a row die to friendly fire in a training exercize.

glacial light
eager pine
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Except the escape room is a death game.

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Like like, a death game story where the death game is so badly designed that none of the participants get anywhere and the maniac running it just slowly goes more and more nuts in frustration that people aren't magically getting their moon logic puzzles.

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Getting more and more megalomaniacal thinking their non-sensical puzzles are just too complex for the tiny minds of mere mortals to understand...

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I wish I could come up with ideas on my own instead of always having to build off someone else's.

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I might actually be able to do creative writing.

ivory swallow
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were going in 30

eager pine
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Okee. Poke me

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plz

unkempt flax
glacial light
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Huh my current helldiver has a prosthetic leg

burnt vapor
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It's part of the armour you're wearing

glacial light
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Oh neat

glacial light
ivory swallow
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i only have 2 unlocked

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@eager pine were ready

honest acorn
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I’m in activity 1

glad marsh
honest acorn
glad marsh
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Lovely!
Be there in a mo

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Might be a lil longer actually, discord is clearly having some trouble on my end

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Probably like 3-4 minutes?

coral linden
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what's the trick to snagging fabricators with the autocannon?

stone bridge
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shoot the vent cover at close range to richochet the round into the vent

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at around a 45 degree angle

eager pine
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@coral linden Shoot near the base of the door to the vent. Try to fire from dead ahead.

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You don't have to be at close range.

stone bridge
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mmhh, hasn't worked for me

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but give it a try

keen zinc
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understanding a 45 degree angle

stone bridge
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whuh

fringe quiver
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question

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how does one win a defend campaign against the automataons

naive dragon
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Tried the distraction 3-1 play yet?

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3 of you hold a point away from the objective, one of you runs the evac buttons

daring monolith
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my group and I successfully did a diff 6 evac the day before yesterday with that. But if you just try to hold the middle the highest diff we've managed is 4

coral linden
unkempt river
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<@&1206091872716595200> making a second group in Horus if people wish to hop in

keen zinc
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ill be down once food arrives

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<@&1206091872716595200> redirect to activity 2

candid finch
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It may just be that I play with randos a lot but oh boy is it easier to run hard missions with bots while running the railgun

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Which is sad because I love sniping with the AMR but I cannot piece the armour of hulks reliably with that

naive dragon
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Railgun is a must on 5+ bots yeah

candid finch
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Not having fun with Cannon turrets though, I find they almost always target me and my allies don't care about that so I get deleted

unkempt river
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#autocannons4lyfe

candid finch
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Bots are rough for that though, like I've not seen any bug equivalent

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Like there's spore spewers, met one of them recently, but with boys there's just so much stuff that can instantly delete you from range

fringe quiver
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anyway to skip the mission complete screen?

candid finch
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Not that I'm aware

strange vine
meager sandal
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It's confusing definitely thought it was a defense mission or operation at first

candid finch
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It's the major orders though right so it's like for everyone across everywhere and isn't completed quickly, right?

daring monolith
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yeah

we're at 5/8 successful defenses iirc

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we may actually not complete it in time

fringe quiver
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is there a uhh

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primary or sidearm that can defeat the hulk unit thingies

candid finch
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The big ones with the vents on the back?

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Hitting that vent with a primary or sidearm does huge damage

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alternatively, for support weapons, the disposable anti-tank is good as long as you hit with it and reloads quickly

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Railgun and AMR are strong too, though you need to aim more with AMR

meager saffron
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I think hulk vents might still have some armor although I could be wrong

candid finch
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Wish the railgun had a decent scope

daring monolith
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I believe the hulk vents are medium armoured

oblique lotus
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I've killed hulk vents with small arms

keen zinc
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My music of choice for helldiving

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sniper vs assault trooper

candid finch
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That person is full of drugs

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They did get all the samples tho

keen zinc
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thas me

candid finch
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full of drugs

keen zinc
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jump pack stalwart grenade man

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i destroy tanks by jumping above/behind them and impact grenading them

unreal merlin
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That's wild of you, good job.

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living in an action movie

eager pine
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Amko is full of drugs.

candid finch
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I just keep an orbital railgun in my pocket for tanks

eager pine
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I steal Hades Autocanon after they DC and shoot them in the back.

unreal merlin
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I think Precision Strike is safe enough for me given how slow they are, but Railcannon is definitely a good pick for just deleting some problem armor enemy without having to think about it too much.

candid finch
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Plus it auto aims so I can hide behind a rock and limply throw a ball roughly in their direction and it'll focus them

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one I do wonder is the rocket plane

keen zinc
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ask spork or hades

candid finch
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Like it says they target at the strongest person in the area but I don't know if it actually does anything because it just seems to bomb immediately where I threw it

upbeat vector
unreal merlin
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110mm rocket strike is in fact an instakill on tanks.

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Very reliable.

upbeat vector
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Against other armour, I've had mixed to poor results

unreal merlin
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It's not as generous with its targeting as Railcannon, but it's still enough that you don't need to be exactly precise with the beacon, just get it close.

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Other armor, yeah it is fiddly because they tend to be moving too fast (Chargers running, Hulks trundling around especially the faster ones, also Hulks are relatively small targets)

keen zinc
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i actually struggle against hulks most

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impacts do not hurt them from the front and hitting them in the back is just luck

unreal merlin
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Really requires teamwork to have one person run off in a direction that exposes their back to a friend.

candid finch
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Railgun really messes them up

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Which I'm finding useful

unreal merlin
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Otherwise yeah, that.

eager pine
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@keen zinc That one that had you pinned. I unloaded a scorcher mag into its back and it died.

unreal merlin
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Railgun, autocannon, and AMR can all kill it with hits to the eye.

eager pine
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Railgun is great for taking them out at range.

candid finch
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The railgun even does decent chunks if you hit the arms and such

eager pine
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If it can turn around and shoot you the railgun is less good.

unreal merlin
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Aim for the joints, it's amazing at disarming (hah) bots. Especially if you aim for the waistlines of devastators, it instakills them.

eager pine
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You do about the same amount of damage with the RG hitting them in the back or front it feels like.

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If you charge the railgun in one shots devs pretty much anywhere around the torso or head. Including through a shield.

unreal merlin
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I can't be bothered to focus on overcharging it tbh.

keen zinc
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i hope they fix the stalwart hitmarker bug

unreal merlin
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My habit is to hold charge and aim for the right weakspot, so I never practice with overcharged shots.

keen zinc
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cuz i love jump pack stalwart impact grenades

rich marlin
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I need to grind samples so i can upgrade my ship sadcowboy

candid finch
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Mood

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I can't succeed anything over 6 because the spawns seem to be kinda fucked

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I need those rare final sample type

keen zinc
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patroling popli makes you wish for a heeth winter

glacial light
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So is the 500kg once per mission by default?

keen zinc
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no

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it just needs to have the eagle rearm between uses

rich marlin
candid finch
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It's once, then it goes and reloads and takes a while

glacial light
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Ok so it just has one use before rearm

keen zinc
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eagle strikes are fast and low cooldown but they have limited uses before needing to rearm

glacial light
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The N/A cooldown sort of confused me

rich marlin
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And I haven't even attempted to try and find stuff in bot missions

candid finch
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Yeah, meanwhile other plane delivered weaponry often has more than one charge

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I mostly just realize where the bot stuff tends to spawn and know to check those areas when wandering around

glacial light
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Is 500kg better than eagle airstrike for medium nests and fabricators?

candid finch
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One thing to note for having multiple plane drops on the same mission, when rearming it will rearm all of them

rich marlin
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Really?

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Huh, never knew that

glacial light
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Ye it also means until you rearm all then you're empty eagles won't recharge

rich marlin
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Seems kinda like a duh moment but yeah XD

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Cool

candid finch
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So if you have a 500kg and smoke drops it won't rearm your 500kg until you've either dropped all your smoke or you rearm manually

glacial light
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Slight advantage of of orbitals is cooldown independent of each other effectively

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I still like eagles more

candid finch
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The 500kg is great for closing everything, but it's a lot longer to recharge than others

glacial light
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If you only have the 500kg is it just the standard like 2 minute rearm?

candid finch
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I tend to try and have one orbital and one eagle, a support weapon and either a backpack or a decent turret to drop

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yee

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I think so

glacial light
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Ok so cooldown on a 500kg is at fastest 240 seconds which is like powerful orbital cooldowns

candid finch
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the 500kg is the most powerful eagle drops.

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I should use the orbital lazer more

glacial light
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Ok so my current loadout as a self assigned siege speciakist is eagle airstrike, walking orbital, 500kg, and recoilless rifle.

Im debating on replacing the eagle airstrike with an explosive orbital

candid finch
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Ahhh going building killer?

glacial light
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Yup with throw range armor I've gotten good at destroying small and medium nests before anyone can get close

candid finch
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Honestly it might be worth replacing the eagle airstrike with a regular orbital shot because it recharges so much faster than all the others

glacial light
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Usually a single walking orbital can take out a medium nest or fabricator I've come to love it

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It just takes a good starting positionand angle

keen zinc
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I have a mighty need

kindred lintel
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Is that a belt feeder?

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And how heavy are we talking, the lvl1 one is already quite umph-y

glacial light
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They need like a comical Gatling that feeds belted ammo from a backpack with insane pews

keen zinc
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Yes

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More the merrier

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I want to jump pack with a heavy machine gun

keen zinc
unreal merlin
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That indeed looks like a belt-fed machine gun firing bullets the size of carrots.

keen zinc
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Or general purpose machine gun

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A heavy machine gun fires much larger rounds

candid finch
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I really want to do the whole two person belt feeder and other person firing thing from the autocannon

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I did it once and got the achievement but it is just kinda cool

upbeat vector
candid finch
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I need to blow the arms off a Hulk and extract with it still alive

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for a chieve

rich marlin
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I love this game, suddenly everyone playing it is an A list actor and the community is in on the bit

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This ones a bit loud so i'll leave it as just a link, but its a Helldiver transmission about calling in an SOS only for the person answering to be an infamous 'traitor'

rich marlin
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Third time ive seen this here a d it never gets old

candid finch
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ha whoops

rich marlin
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Its funny!

unreal merlin
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Is it just me or is there sometimes WIND that prevents you from maneuvering your hellpod on reinforcement?

oblique lotus
cobalt patrol
unreal merlin
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I don't have specific examples but I've definitely had my pod forced in one direction while falling before, not just "you can't maneuver this way" but more like if I had been holding DOWN+LEFT the whole time.

cobalt patrol
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Yes, that's what i'm talking about. I'[m pretty sure it does that sometimes as a you cannot land safley in xyz areas

candid finch
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Some of that might be because you're being shot at an angle from the low orbit ship in the middle of the map

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So you're coming in already at an angle

unreal merlin
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It makes me angy.

fleet jacinth
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WOOOOOOOOO

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FIGHTING ON MALEVELON

rich marlin
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Tis 1:30 in the morning you know what that means

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Time to dive some hells

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Nooo I have to wait for my game to update

south temple
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NOOOO IM BACK IN THE INFINITE DROP POD

rich marlin
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I just froze while on a mission

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Very sad

honest acorn
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The stealth technique for defend ops works super well

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It’s just scary being on the 3 man distraction team

unreal merlin
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That being what, three goons act all noisy and hold attention away from the main site while the fourth just runs between the doors?

oblique lotus
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if things start to slip you're trying to hold the point with 25% of your team stratagem space occupied by smoke

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when it works it works really well but it's difficult to restabilize from

oblique storm
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I LIBERATED INGMAR

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I saw it tick to 100 upon completing an op

rich marlin
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Huzzah

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Good job Helldiver!

oblique lotus
unreal merlin
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EVERY HELLDIVER IS A HERO

rich marlin
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Ah damn

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Still, your contribution to the war effort will not go unnoticed

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And no helldiving for me, computer locked up good and I just decided to go sleep XD

ivory swallow
rich marlin
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Ngl, I heard about Joel and thought ‘I want their autograph’

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I always want autographs from weird people XD

ivory swallow
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Finding out thousands of our brothers and sisters died on Malevelon Creek cause some guy named Joel thought it'd be fun

↘️ Quoting PC Gamer (@pcgamer)

'We have an actual person with the title of Game Master': A single Helldivers 2 dev named Joel is pulling the strings on its galactic war like an all-powerful D&D dungeon master, war will becom...

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cobalt patrol
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<@&1206091872716595200> So who'd like to dive some hell?

honest acorn
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I really like the incendiary breaker

cobalt patrol
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Yeah? (Also, you want company in the game? iwanna play with folks, happy voice on or off, i just wanna play with friendos)

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I am 302 medals away from my scorcher

cobalt patrol
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All good

honest acorn
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But I just got it and it’s great

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Best thing I’ve seen for dealing with those horrible berserker packs

cobalt patrol
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Ah, i just impact grenade them

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or go for railgun trickshots

unreal merlin
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Both are great solutions.

jolly mortar
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impact grenade is my goto honestly. impact is my goto for a lot of situations now.

cobalt patrol
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My fav is still railgun straight through a bunch of beserkers to kill the Hulk scorcher behind them

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also i am around, if folks want to team up

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hit me up

honest acorn
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Yeah those are pretty good but being able to just hit them all with a dozen burning shells is pretty goated

jolly mortar
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yeah i wont lie i wanna get my hands on incendiary breaker

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esp before they start rolling out balance patches

honest acorn
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It’s fucked up it seems to do nearly as much damage including the dot and has an extra 10 shells per mag

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“Downside” is that it has to burst fire so you can’t waste them all as easily

jolly mortar
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okay that extra 10 shells per mag is damn near an advertisement to use it over the base on its own

unreal merlin
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THE HERO READS A MOST UNSETTLING PASSAGE
||BILE TITANS ARE A MID-TIER ENEMY||

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the leaks are going wild these days

oblique storm
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oh no

fleet jacinth
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mmm one more game then i sleep

jolly mortar
# unreal merlin

it's been said like multiple times across the internet now but there's supposedly lore somewhere that says Bile Titans are considered smaller Terminids.

fleet jacinth
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Ngl this game is probably one of the best games I’ve bought, really having fun with it

cobalt patrol
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It is immensly good

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<@&1206091872716595200> Got room for more if folks wanna be shooting some of that robutt

cobalt patrol
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<@&1206091872716595200> Who's around at this hour?

rotund marten
#

I can helldive shortly, just making toast

cobalt patrol
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Cool, just lemme go

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lemme know*

hollow plover
rotund marten
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<@&1206091872716595200> can we get two more?

hollow plover
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I am hellman

cobalt patrol
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@rotund marten @hollow plover my computer is throwing a massive tanty, better to go without me sorry

hollow plover
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😔

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Damn boss

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Survive

cobalt patrol
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spilt water next to my computer but not on, then grapics card dint like me moving the computer to make sure it wasnt getting splashed

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and then every bootup hell divers threw a tanty

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and caused a graphics crash

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so i'm hoping things are fine, i'm verrifying files now

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but we'll find out!

rotund marten
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do we wait for you or shoot things?

coral linden
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i can hop on in like 15/20 if you guys have a slot?

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just need to get dressed and make some tea

cobalt patrol
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Play without me

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Because this is still being fucky

unkempt flax
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Until i get the game, my contribution to the liberation front, will just be random memes

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To bolster the troops morale

keen zinc
hexed steeple
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me

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people say 'you should try to always be moving and repositioning' ok. i'll always be moving towards the enemy

keen zinc
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so true

placid linden
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Picked up the game earlier this week, so far I've only played two missions with a friend, spent my time with it yesterday troubleshooting and rebinding controls to MGSV

barren iron
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i said this before

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but my hot take is hd2 has mgsv dna

autumn plover
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It does tbh

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Especially in terms of how you play going solo

naive dragon
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My ballistic shield takes so many rounds

unreal merlin
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Reminding your stratagem keys so you can WASD walk while using arrow keys to ⬆️ ⬇️ ⬅️ ➡️ is huge

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Genuinely a difference of life or death, success or failure

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You can trundle towards the objective while keying and throwing the reinforcement beacon to summon the next trooper to walk and call you back down, taking turns

steady bone
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so what you're saying that I should rebind them to arrow keys and then get an extra arrow pad so I can type in the keys with my toes

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so both of my hands are free

unreal merlin
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You could do that, though you do need to also rebind CTRL to the toe pad too

glacial light
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DDR dance pad for calling stratagems

fringe quiver
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Nah, use voice to text for the arrows

steady bone
#

that would take time to process, but certainly an idea

rich marlin
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I'd watch it

junior badge
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I think I saw someone do that

unreal merlin
junior badge
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Was that posted here?

unreal merlin
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Only if VA is set up that you have to shout the directions though

rich marlin
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Oh if someone has a link i definitely need it. Love myself a good gimmick

rotund marten
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someone put this together, which is neat

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apparently it takes longer to reach over and hit the macro key than it does to just input the strat normally so it's mostly for show, but it's cool

quick crown
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I need to figure out how to set the settings on controller better

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As it is right now on default controls on PC you can't walk forward and punch in strats

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And if you have ⬇️ in the inputs you use a supply from your backpack

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My backpack supply useage has been abysmal because of it tired

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It might be a steam input issue but idk

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(Ok 5 minutes of check work and I found the solution)

naive dragon
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I just wish I had a mouse with a hat switch

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Do they even do that

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Like the 4 way hat on a HOTAS but where the mouse would have thumb buttons

supple siren
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I've gotten so used to entering the codes mid-dive

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Much training in GTA3 for midbattle code entry

naive dragon
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I could use that for more things than this game too 🤔

supple siren
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Friend I play with has one with like 15 buttons and I cannot comprehend remembering which do what

unkempt flax
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How is the game on controller?

naive dragon
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... Actually I wonder if I could modify my throttle deck to work like a- oh my goodness this is a terrible idea

wind arrow
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Oh I have a friend who deploys strategems using voice macro

naive dragon
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Programming my t16000 to do everything except mouse aiming

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This is a stupid idea

wind arrow
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And kept forgetting the trigger term he set on the first day he uses it

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Pretty sure he is good at it now

barren reef
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I swapped the strat keys to arrow keys so I can comfortably sprint away while calling in airstrikes.

graceful bluff
keen zinc
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What birds is this

graceful bluff
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A turd of some kind probably

crystal canopy
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Dance dance or death

steady bone
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Dance Dance Revolution or Death Death RIP

honest acorn
kindred lintel
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Sounds like haz 5 alright

gritty sundial
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<@&1206091872716595200> diff 5 bots on popli?

keen zinc
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I mean 20 minutes

kindred lintel
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I mean 20 dollars

steady bone
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I want 20 men

gritty sundial
glacial light
ivory swallow
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I can be on in a bit gonna nap

fleet jacinth
#

Right now really loving the marksman rifle from (i think) level 3 of the warbond. Only problem is I keep running out of bullets in my mag but that’s probably because of all the oil I’m spilling at a time lol

quick crown
rich marlin
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Got myself a new snazzy computer so i can helldive properly

unkempt flax
quick crown
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Huh? Oh maybe.

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I was just talking about like on controller

naive dragon
#

I have found mice with joysticks on the thumb

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I am

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Ascending

wind arrow
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oh, malevelon creek push back started already?

modest fiber
#

i last night bought helldivers 2 and already doing my part.. sadly already lost a campaign against the robots, but i did just get the recoilless rifle so i can finally play my ideal role of explosions c: random players are a hit and miss at times.. and while i do have decent number of friends playing the game they can't be online that much. overall its a fun game ^-^ also 5.4% of players haven't completed the tutorial, lol

naive dragon
#

Are we finally defeating Joel

keen zinc
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@oblique storm your impact on the ecosystem

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Thank you for your genius

unkempt flax
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Is that sly marbo

naive dragon
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It is

unkempt flax
#

Hell yea

oblique storm
keen zinc
#

Sly Marbo

oblique storm
#

what does sly marbo have to do with veld

keen zinc
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Look at the deployed helldivers

oblique storm
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ohhhhhhh

keen zinc
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This was in a reddit thread about our loss

gritty sundial
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lmao

keen zinc
#

And people was like "where is John Helldiver" and this was the response

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Then Sly was response to that

rapid scaffold
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Sly marbo jumpscare

gritty sundial
keen zinc
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Soon, I gotta let my dog in before the rain gets here

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But we just finished putting away groceries

oblique storm
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My meme that has a non-zero chance of directly making a multi-million dollar corporation make a specific figurine

winged patio
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Amazing

keen zinc
naive dragon
#

Voy Marbo

keen zinc
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DIVE DIVE DIVE

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Voy wrote the Sly Marbo meme video

oblique storm
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i did done do dat

naive dragon
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That's amazing

gritty sundial
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I do ask we complete the op I'm in the middle of doing before we drop on Veld

keen zinc
#

We can

rotund marten
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I can come hit Veld in 20 minutes or so

honest acorn
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Any slots left?

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Bugge malvoleon sounds fun

winged patio
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I am astounded that this game can run on my shitty laptop

gritty sundial
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We're gonna finish an op I have going on before then tho on popli

strange vine
graceful bluff
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||I like how they have a stealth weapon in the crossbow but then made it explosive||

indigo bear
#

||That teleport backpack has some real potential for fun chaos||

autumn plover
#

Lol they're adding a bolt action bolter

junior badge
modest fiber
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where to find groups for diving?

oblique lotus
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Oh good the friendly fire inator is coming back

rapid scaffold
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Bolt action bolter... Yes... YES

fringe quiver
azure pewter
junior badge
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Yeah, I've met lovely groups here

crystal canopy
#

hitting bugs later today

oblique storm
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got fucking

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kicked back to the destroyer seemingly for no reason

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at extract

unkempt flax
#

so they still do it, lmao
Was it a player?

oblique storm
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no

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it was a bug

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Or maybe it was them!

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idk!

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no notification

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just black screen and back on the destroyer

azure pewter
barren reef
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Does difficulty level change the health and armor of enemies? I'm unclear on that.

stone bridge
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Afaik not at all

oblique storm
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Nope

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just amounts

autumn plover
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Tbh I like that

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I'd rather more than damage sponge or even more rocket tag

candid finch
placid linden
dusty spruce
# strange vine leaked weapons

oh sweet, a return of the glorious Arc Shotgun. Interesting that it's a primary again, while the og arc thrower is a support weapon now
does mean I can be double lightning now >:)

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I know I saw an image as well showing the Sickle laser carbine will be returning as well

autumn plover
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Ngl I want a player operated mortar lol

candid finch
#

Oooo crossbow

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let me get stuck in medieval style

stark ether
#

gib more per round reload weapons grab_left grab_right

dusty spruce
#

Here are the leaked images I saw, can't find the other pages.

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Was part of an issue with an update, from what I grasped, temporarily showed some stuff that shouldn't have been toggled yet

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Interested as well in knowing what the booster in Cutting Edge is and that pistol in Democratic Detonation

unreal merlin
keen zinc
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who knows how far out thatll be tho

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bah god i want my Ninja

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i need it

dusty spruce
#

I wonder if we'll get the Tanto back too. Feel like it'll be wonky to get used to the limited range in third person

steady flameBOT
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we accidentally had a thought about a lancer/helldiver crossover and now we can't stop

keen zinc
#

HD guns i want most: the Ninja, the Patriot, and the Constitution

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the patriot because lmao

dusty spruce
#

Hey, the Patriot was pretty good against the Illuminate
Especially since the Stalwart is now a support too

keen zinc
#

yeah

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the patriot is a fun SMG+

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the Justice is probably going to be very good in hd2

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with the longer ranged fights

stark ether
dusty spruce
#

I kinda figure they crammed the Justice into the Liberator Penetrator, so maybe the Patriot comes out as the Liberator Suppressive or something like that?

keen zinc
#

no way

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the Justice was a battle rifle version of the liberator

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the penetrator does LESS damage

honest acorn
#

Has a lower damage stat at least - I think the better pen evens it out a lot

dusty spruce
#

I wish it did, but it mostly felt wonky to me. Need to use it more against Devastators and see if the loss in 'good feelings' is worth it. I've mostly been maining the Defender because it feels so right against the Bots

honest acorn
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@gritty sundial think you’ll be much longer?

gritty sundial
dusty spruce
# stark ether the booster and the pistol have my attention

Looking closely I think that pistol may be a little grenade cannon? Looks like it has a chunky barrel. I know the game has slots in the dll for a 'plasma_pistol' and a 'grenade_pistol', so my money is on either of those. No idea about the booster

quick crown
#

JUST A WARNING Artist draws NSFW on occasion

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i love seeing everyone drawing the Eagle pilots

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Pilots are so cool cryingandshaking

keen zinc
#

hmm

quick crown
#

I am an eagle stratagem stan. Rocketpods and 500k > laser

dusty spruce
#

The rocketpods are so good. They've saved my life against tanks and those terrifying cannon turrets. Pop fabs and arty pretty good as well.

red steeple
dusty spruce
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Same. Have everything that takes rare/commons done, need to find some SUPER URANIUM, but couldn't find any of those wonky rocks. Didn't help it was on Mort or Troost at the time and I couldn't see anything in the fog

upbeat vector
#

They only appear at higher difficulties, and I feel like I'm kinda blocked off from those until I hit level 20 and unlock the good anti-armour stuff?

junior badge
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Nah, play with peeps here and it's fine

quick crown
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Same

dusty spruce
#

The auto cannon and decent strategems are good. Most teams also don't need to be all AT anyway

junior badge
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I managed to survive a few 6+ missions with Cyan, Misc and others here.

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Despite literally just now hitting 15.

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For anti-armor, the AMR, EATs and Autocannon all do plenty of work.

dusty spruce
#

Oh yeah, the AMR hits pretty high above its weight. I think it'll kill most Bot stuff if you hit the heat vents?
I really want a testing 'VR training' or something to hash out some tactics

north fiber
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AMR can kill hulks from the front if you nail the red line

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Note that the default AMR zoom is a weird zero so your bullets can be above your crosshair.

fringe quiver
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I have only seen 2 hulks

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The first I defeated with the managed democracy of the AMR at max zoom

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The second I was upholding democracy by leaving on the evacuation shuttle so I can go do another important objective instead of wasting time with the 2nd hulk

north fiber
#

I'm assuming you've only played at lower diffs?

fringe quiver
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I did my first difficulty 4 solo yesterday at lvl 5 I believe

north fiber
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Because only two hulks at once is a relief once you hit higher diffs

fringe quiver
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It was an escort mission and then another mission with multiple objectives

fleet jacinth
#

AT HOME NOW, I HEARD WE LIBERATING VELD?

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GOOD THING I GOT MY LIBER-TEA

crystal canopy
#

gonna set a kettle and brew libertea anyone wanna dive

fleet jacinth
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hell yeah

daring monolith
#

Looks like we’ve failed the major objective huh

crystal canopy
daring monolith
#

I’d be down for playing in like half an hour

fleet jacinth
#

lvl 8

fringe quiver
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I would join but at work sadcowboy

crystal canopy
#

will set up lobby

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2118-3120

fleet jacinth
#

sent

crystal canopy
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accepted

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in SSC if you want vc

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hold on having mic issues

gritty sundial
#

we just did a full level 6 op on veld and I'm fucking exhausted

crystal canopy
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ok mic is broken so rip

fleet jacinth
gritty sundial
#

also the railgun is uh

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Fuck

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I thought Bile Titans were serious trouble

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I um

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No longer think this

dusty spruce
#

The Railgun is glorious and divine. I love any weapon that charges

gritty sundial
#

also we got Misc to level 50 lol

fleet jacinth
#

I love my EATs

crystal canopy
daring monolith
#

I saw 309k on Veld and was like ‘why’ and then I heard there was a major order for 45 medals and then it made sense

crystal canopy
#

WHAT

steady bone
#

instructions unclear, had very long shower

fleet jacinth
barren warren
#

helldivers 2 is now installed bosssalute

crystal canopy
#

what the fuck are these new bugs

steady bone
#

friends

stone bridge
hexed steeple
dusty spruce
#

if you tickle the rocket devastator it will hit you with only 2 rockets instead of all five

unreal merlin
#

I would simply kill it first.

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Ever since learning that devastator waists are just as vulnerable to railguns as their heads I've been relentlessly cutting them in half from afar.

burnt vapor
#

Embrace the Tau lifestyle

unreal merlin
#

The exception being heavy devastators who wisely shield their waists while facing you. They get headshots or at worst two shoulder shots.

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Or go from the side/back if they're distracted

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Also running EMS orbital is kinda clutch

burnt vapor
crystal canopy
unreal merlin
#

Yeah heavy devastator backpacks are rather good targets too

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No stalkers are not new

crystal canopy
#

oh ok

burnt vapor
#

They have been here since day one but only show up around special nests at like 4+

shrewd tiger
crystal canopy
#

surprised id never seen them then

unreal merlin
#

You just didn't notice them because they were camouflaged

meager saffron
#

I was going to say their entire gimmick is that you cannot see them

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that's the point :v)

burnt vapor
#

They are specifically a special objective if you ever see one try to go in the direction they came from to find their nest and destroy it

dusty spruce
unreal merlin
#

Yeah if you keep getting harassed by stalkers, note which direction they're coming from and RUN OVER THERE AND BLOW UP THE NEST

dusty spruce
burnt vapor
#

Yeah honestly at times their cloak makes them easier to see in dust/spore clouds

rotund marten
#

stalker nests become incredibly high priority on higher difficulties because their spawn rate really cranks up

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I've seen 12-16 stalkers attacking almost simultaneously

burnt vapor
#

That is legitimately terrifying

meager saffron
#

panik

barren warren
#

the tutorial was very cheeky

north fiber
#

Stalkers are interesting because by itself the cloak is useless.

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But you throw in a bile titan, chargers, spitter artillery, and a couple warriors for taste all of a sudden that cloak becomes very good at it's job.

hollow plover
#

A lot of the stalkers threat is their behavior
They're fucking persistent and love to flank, like their despicable cousins the hunter

upbeat vector
#

The hunter...

dusty spruce
#

Also that they 100% also bowl me over before running off again

unreal merlin
#

Honestly yeah the cloak is okay to useless, but they just run up on you and get right on your face and send you flying and are SO DISRUPTIVE

upbeat vector
#

Those are the kinda white/red ones, who leap at you?

dusty spruce
#

they bully me, clotheslining me before disappearing back into the crowd

upbeat vector
#

I hate them so much

north fiber
#

Speaking of behavior, we saw a really cool video. It was showing off the cyborg marching songs, but at the end the player got spotted then hid. The Commisar called a halt, then ordered the other two to investigate while it hung back.

eager pine
#

Neat video about the worldbuilding of HD2

eager pine
#

Ya know, I like the HD2 loading tips better than Darktide's. It's funny that Darktide's are all just blatantly mindless propaganda, but HD2s are actually useful, while also often being mindless propaganda.

unreal merlin
ivory swallow
#

idk why its showing ai art in the embed tho

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fuck ai art

cobalt patrol
#

<@&1206091872716595200> anyone got room for a fellow liberty bringer?

eager pine
#

Wait, the bugs retook Veld without anyone defending it?

eager pine
modest fiber
cobalt patrol
#

5324-3441

fleet jacinth
#

what are some good eagle stratagems?

unkempt flax
#

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KR92qfoiI58
Why nobody told me the National anthem was such a bopper

Higher quality version HD of my original post with extra added ending

Found through datamining in the game files.

These songs have not played yet in the game.

o7 o7 o7 o7 o7 o7 o7

Lyrics : (thanks @yanktrail and @tinyboxtim6663 )

[1st Verse]

Freedom must reign over every last star
Through Citizens' hearts in the all-righteous thoughts...

▶ Play video
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It reminds me of Civ6 theme

hollow plover
#

It's just good

cerulean sluice
#

basic airstrike is good, because it's able to bother top-tier enemies like hulks, chargers, bile titans, and tanks, break buildings/bug holes, and is more forgiving than the 500kg with it's line of damage

hollow plover
#

And they're always available (™️)

fleet jacinth
#

👍

#

hm, airstrike or jump pack?

barren reef
#

Rocket pods are decent when you get access to them, they crack charger armor and take out tanks.

vestal trail
#

Like, the only thing it can't do is kill Bile Titans and destroy Research Station buildings, but that's it basically

hollow plover
#

That's only because it doesn't deal enough damage, in one strike
The second kills the Bile Titan dead

fleet jacinth
#

gonna try out the airstrike!

rich marlin
#

Alright Helldivers, i'm going to be grinding on Saturday and wanted to ask:

What ship module should i try to focus on getting?

I got the ammo one already, what's the next one to get?

fleet jacinth
#

seconded!

eager pine
#

Eagle!

cerulean sluice
#

eagle, to build for the extra airstrikes module?

barren reef
#

More eagles is always good.

rich marlin
#

scribbles notes

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Thats the liquid cooled one isn't it

oblique lotus
#

it's just very unlikely

oblique lotus
#

it is at minimum 25% more strikes and at best 100% more strikes

graceful bluff
#

anyone up for some lower difficulty stuff?

rotund marten
#

500kg bomb x2 is the good stuff for bile titans

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just pull aggro, drop the beacon just in front of it and then move up to bait the bile attack, which will keep it still long enough

vestal trail
azure pewter
#

<@&1206091872716595200> banaged emocracy

graceful bluff
#

what difficulty

azure pewter
#

no pref ngl so whatever people are good with i guess?

kindred lintel
#

depending on how high we are, probably 4-6

vestal trail
kindred lintel
#

100% bump for the best one

stone bridge
#

I honestly don't rate the 500kg

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Ton of flash, small boom, deceptively long call in due to the bomb needing to actually land

vestal trail
#

It's certainly more precision that it looks, wouldn't mind if they buffed the area

meager saffron
#

the AOE seems almost bugged

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it's very strange

fleet jacinth
#

god doing just challenging rating solo is so stressful

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but so fucking fun

#

do wish I had another helldiver with me

rotund marten
#

500kg just needs some practice

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great for bile titans, passable for buildings, for waves of stuff you need to aim well

graceful bluff
azure pewter
#

oh uhh

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#6612-3043

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also we in the ssc voivce chat

dusty spruce
#

The fact the missiles can be dropped at your feet and they will selectively target the bigguns are nice

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I guess the 500kg is when you want something that does a little bit of everything, but even bigger

cobalt patrol
#

I'll be around in a while for Helldivers

supple siren
#

500kg with the upgrade is real nice, I run that and the basic bombing run and it's just so much exploding for your dollar

fleet jacinth
#

update: fighting two chargers solo is not fun

supple siren
#

You can get them to bonk into eachother which is delightful to watch but yeah getting demolished from the side is rough

modest fiber
rotund marten
#

This is why I really have started to warm to the orbital laser and the railcannon

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Charger and biotitan solutions

unreal merlin
#

More "leaks" with reported dev confirmation. Quotations because I don't think any of this is really much of a secret.
||https://vxtwitter.com/jojakelion2/status/1762945988220584065||

So with the leaks, Now with Dev confirmation, Helldivers 2 is adding;
-Call in AI squad of Super Earth Soldiers
-HellDiver Mechs
-car/buggy for players
-New Faction (from the old game)
-New mission types
-New enemy types (flying)
-New guns (laser based)
I am excited.

💖 4.61K 🔁 468

oblique storm
#

Illuminate!!!!!

modest fiber
fleet jacinth
#

also yeah eagle airstrike is a very good strategem

rotund marten
#

I quite like the scorcher for solo because you can dodge and shoot a charger in the abdomen and it will die within a mag or two

fleet jacinth
#

mostly cause I don't trust myself to aim well enough at close range

rotund marten
#

or else you can just EMS strike it and leisurely walk behind

fleet jacinth
rotund marten
#

four grenades from the GL pop the abdomen but it's a tricky shot, two impact grenades under the front legs is a clean kill and quite easy to line up

modest fiber
# fleet jacinth essentially me lol

i got a flamethrower.. thats the most that could do some damage to it.. usually someone else has the explosive equipment so i try not to double stack that stuff

rotund marten
#

Impact grenades can two shot tanks as well, they're great

modest fiber
#

hacen't unlocked those yet, got the G6 and the high EX

stone bridge
#

Autocannon will pop a charger butt in 3 rounds as well

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Not an immediate solution, but it'll bleed out fast

modest fiber
#

an autocannon up the ass, got it

#

me when flamethrower

fleet jacinth
#

MISSION DONE

#

LONGEST MISSION OF MY LIFE

#

SO MANY HUNTERS AND CHARGERS

modest fiber
#

would you like another one? yes

stark ether
#

i want hesh rounds for the auto cannon

fleet jacinth
wraith furnace
stone bridge
#

Eagle and Sentry modules offer the highest bang for your buck, I think

supple siren
#

I want to see how much steering the steering upgrade provides

unreal merlin
#

That +1 strike upgrade is big value.

supple siren
#

It's so fun to revenge-drop chargers and titans

stone bridge
#

The difference between unupgraded and fully upgraded sentries is night and day, especially for the Autocannon and Gatling

unreal merlin
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Also true. The turn speed is critical.

fleet jacinth
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bruh dropped into a mission with a full team and when we hit the ground I'm the only one here

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;-; I got left behind

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0590-4182 my code please help if you can

glacial light
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What level is the purple samples

hexed steeple
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i keep hearing people say the oribtal 120/380MM is trash what's up with that

glacial light
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They've got kind of a large area spread, especially the 380mm

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120mm seems nice for medium bases though, although i prefere walking barrage

graceful bluff
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Which of the level 8 and under stratagems are worth getting

glacial light
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A single walking barrage can clear a medium fabricator/nest easily and it's more predictable so you can move up while it's ongoing

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Eagle airstrike

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I still use that

meager saffron
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380mms are highly rng and prone to BF out of nowhere, even if you think you're standing in a safe spot

unreal merlin
meager saffron
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they have such a colossal range and basically 0 probability to hit anything useful

stone bridge
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They need massive target saturation to hit anything useful over the duration

glacial light
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Damn 7?

hexed steeple
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damn

stone bridge
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I firmly believe the 120mm needs some level of target tracking to be any good

glacial light
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I would love the 120mm if it was more true to the description and had a tighter area

stone bridge
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And the 380mm should have like, double the explosion radius per shell

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Make it a real "fuck this area" stratagem

cerulean sluice
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honestly they should have some degree of weak targeting to ensure it doesn't hit nothing

fleet jacinth
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yea

unreal merlin
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Yeah as-is with the 120mm/380mm you essentially are just choosing to cause lots of screen shake to potentially zero if not fratricidal effect.

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Just far less time consuming to use literally any other stratagem so you actually hit the thing you want to hit.

hot meadow
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How is connectivity and latency these days?

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I've been lurking but thinking about buying if I'll actually get to play without too much hassle.

stone bridge
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We're basically over the hump now

glacial light
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It's fine I've experienced little issues with that

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I did wait like a week after launch

stone bridge
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Haven't heard anything about it recently

unreal merlin
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Never have queues or disconnects here, anymore.

kindred lintel
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800kcc is more than capable

glacial light
hot meadow
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Awesome. Thanks folks.

glacial light
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As is it's not even good at clearing heavy bases which is what the trailer shows it doing

kindred lintel
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It would be cool if it were a spiral pattern oging outwards

glacial light
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Yea something that'd eventually saturate the area with at least one bomb per several meters

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Walking is great cause it's predictable and has a relatively tight area of effect and nearly every partof the line it goes through will have a barely overlapping bomb

fleet jacinth
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how do I do this?

umbral temple
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what is that, is that like some kinda weird herb grinder

fleet jacinth
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ah got it

kindred lintel
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Press console, wait for ship, close vavle, wait, open valve, repeat

unreal merlin
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Sorry 380mm enjoyers, but I like my stratagem to do its job in < 5 seconds and not miss.

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I have other things to be doing than waiting around hoping someone doesn't get caught by a stray shell they had no way of avoiding

fleet jacinth
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finished the mission

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gaud damn

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I like solo runs but I think I'm good for the week LOL

winged patio
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I decided to rebind my stratagem keys to the arrow keys. One one hand, I can now move and call in orbital strikes and CAS at the same time. On the other, I sometimes hit the side of my LMB when I go to grab my mouse to aim said strikes and accidentally call hellfire down directly onto my position.

glacial light
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Walking lasts like 8 seconds which feels like a long time in a game but you can basically just throw it at a base and walk away

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That's what I want but bigger for 380mm

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By the time the 380mm finishes I expect nothing to almost nothing alive

unkempt river
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<@&1206091872716595200> Managed Democracy needs you! 🫵

fleet jacinth
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also, are the 110 rocket pods good?

keen zinc
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Ye

fleet jacinth
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hm

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110 rocket pods or the gatling/mortar turret?

dusty spruce
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If you're being harassed a lot by Chargers, the rocket pods will help a ton.

oblique lotus
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depends on what you're fighting

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I'm not super happy with the 110s against bugs tbh

fleet jacinth
dusty spruce
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If you care more about swarms, mortar/gatling is good

oblique lotus
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they don't track chargers very well and don't really do much to bile titan

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against bots they will fairly consistently oneshot tanks and turrets

dusty spruce
stone bridge
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I think 110s are a tad buggy because they occasionally miss stationary targets for no reason - but they usually do land unless the target is going At Speed, like a charger charging someone

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In which case you wait for them to come to a halt first

dusty spruce
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They haven't missed the chargers for me, my gripe with them is more the fact that they don't 100% kill it, but put it into the limping state.
My tip to is not use it like a normal Eagle strike, aim it closer to yourself. The rockets rarely kill me instead.

fleet jacinth
stone bridge
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They'll put a charger into bleed out and tear a super weak spot open on biles

dusty spruce
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It's funny to me that they'll one shot the tanks and the dreaded bot towers, but only mostly kill a charger. Never used them on a Bile Titan before

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Been basically going on the forever defense with bots until just today, really

stone bridge
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The heavy terminids are extremely durable but less dangerous

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Compared to the automaton heavies

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Its a lot easier to kill a Shredder Tank if you have the ordnance or flank it, but if it sees you on an open field you kinda just die a lot of the time

dusty spruce
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hehehe, true

stone bridge
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I do think the paradigm needs to shift more toward the middle, for both factions

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Tanks are marginally less dangerous than Biles because you can kill them on a flank very easily, or one shot them with a basic Eagle Airstrike

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And they don't have the range of vision they do either

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Meanwhile Biles just feel fucking unkillable without someone who knows the Railgun timing to one shot it, or long CD ordnance

cobalt patrol
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I still cannot get the timing down on the railgun

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you can also take a bile down pretty fast if you impactgrenade it's guts and then eat's it's face.

stone bridge
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That works, but it's dangerous and a high expenditure of resources proportional to how many spawn at 8 or 9

autumn plover
dusty spruce
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Well. Got a surprise bile titan on a Veld extraction. Rocket pods do damage it, but it needed some more auto cannon and arc thrower shots to actually kill

stone bridge
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Yeah pods will tear its armour open

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Then you can volley small arms fire or medium support weapons into there to do big damage

strange vine
unkempt river
rich marlin
gritty sundial
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god

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still riding the high of killing 3 bile titans with my railgun

gritty sundial
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one of them was with one shot, one with two, another three

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The one with one shot was glorious

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I was calling it out as I aimed and pulled the trigger

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Didn't even finish my callout

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'There's a bi- nevermind, got it.'

naive dragon
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I hate fighting bugs I hate fighting bugs I hate fighting bugs I hate fighting bugs

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I drop. I get covered in green shit instantly and die. Repeat.

gritty sundial
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I was forged in the crucible of automaton warfare, bugs are nothing to me

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Me saying this is only like half a meme, I do think it's genuinely a good idea to start bots first

autumn plover
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meanwhile im guerilla warfare fighting my way through all the automatons she aggroed

gritty sundial
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to get firmly kicked in the balls and realign what is likely a new player's impression of the game

gritty sundial
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I don't see you complaining that I two shot pretty much every hulk :3

naive dragon
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Bots are way easier than bugs for me

stone bridge
autumn plover
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#yeah i kited a whole bot army and thats why the defense mission suceeded why do you ask

stark ether
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the group i play with is slowly learning they dont have to kill all the red dots on the minimap

naive dragon
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Bots you can do things like "not be slowed by an enemy half your sight who blends in wiht everything then get ripped to shreds by its friends"

gritty sundial
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Ah

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you get shitstomped by stalkers

autumn plover
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as long as i cant get cyberbullied cc by five missiles being shot at me ill be fine lol

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but im also just bizarrely good at surviving shit i shouldnt

autumn plover
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like it happened and it is absolutely probably why we won that defense mission lol

stone bridge
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Bugs you really want speed to kite back away from hordes

gritty sundial
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Oh it was

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Thank you for getting Benny Hilled for 5 minutes

dusty spruce
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The Battlefield 2 Dark Trooper build is a lot of fun against bugs. Arc thrower and jump pack to put maneuver and zap hordes

gritty sundial
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I think with bots I'm gonna keep the amr and bugs I bring the railgun

stark ether
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railgun does well on bugs

stone bridge
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Once armour gets fixed I think you can def get away with wearing heavy, but until then you just want to spec for speed

stark ether
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still want hesh rounds for the autocannon meowsad

keen zinc
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They say the next update will fix armor

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I want it nowww

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I want to wear medium armor

naive dragon
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I want to go back to malevelon and never do this again

stark ether
naive dragon
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It's so frustrating

stone bridge
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Tony, what gear are you running?

stark ether
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i mean we have access to the creek again dont we?

crystal canopy
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We do

stone bridge
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If you change your build up it can help

honest acorn
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I'm looking forward to being tougher for it though

autumn plover
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everyone keeps talking about armor weights and perks on them and im still unsure where to look to know any of that info lol

gritty sundial
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hit control when hovering over a piece of armor in the armory or your equipment screen

stone bridge
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The armoury

gritty sundial
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btw, I've decided for myself that base diligence is good for bots, would the diligence counter-sniper be better?

dusty spruce
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It has a wonky thing like with the revolver, if you've used that

gritty sundial
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wonky thing?

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the reticle?

dusty spruce
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Where it controls sluggishly

stark ether
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the reload wonk?

gritty sundial
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Ah

naive dragon
gritty sundial
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for bugs if you have a machine gun or gl, use that

stark ether
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mood, i have no idea what to run as primary for bots

gritty sundial
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and some form of automatic primary, like the breaker or base liberator

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for bots, precision weaponry

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diligence, amr, etc etc

autumn plover
dusty spruce
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I can recommend the Defender for everything. Feels good for Bots and for Bugs to me.

autumn plover
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but i know the auto shotty is good for dealing with the chunky melee bots

meager saffron
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starting AR unironically a slapper

daring monolith
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liberator is a really good all rounder

for both bugs and bots

gritty sundial
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the starting ar is just a good gun

meager saffron
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the main annoying thing about robots is that you have -1 good AP options early game

autumn plover
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yehp

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i learned fast where to aim

gritty sundial
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I stand by the revolver actually being pretty all right on bots

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there is no way that shit doesn't have medium pen

naive dragon
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why does the green stuff have to make me unable to move past a walk

stark ether
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the revolver is pretty alright on everything is you can make up for the reload

stone bridge
meager saffron
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it's no darktide revolver

gritty sundial
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it's my oh shit button

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It is not a darktide revolver, no

meager saffron
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not many things are, in fairness

stone bridge
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If you get gunked, dive and keep diving until the debuff wears off

gritty sundial
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god you made me remember that's the gun I use on all the builds for both my main classes, fuck

stark ether
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guard dog rover bcaShame3Scared

stone bridge
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While shooting back at your attacker

naive dragon
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Super Earth needs to be destroyed for farming these things instead of destroying them

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sr

stone bridge
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I know you feel bad about them rn but they're definitely not unbeatable by any means

naive dragon
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I'm just gonna stop for tonight

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I hate bugs so fucking much

stone bridge
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Come back tomorrow fresh

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It'll do you well for sure