Helldivers 2: For Managed Democracy!

[glad marsh]

I see no reason that might stop you soldier (no pressure or anything, also welcome to the server!)

[rich marlin]

I desire friends but also am painfully aware that I may need babysitting at best, I might crash out at worst

[jolly mortar]

I may hop on in a bit here, eating dinner currently

[glad marsh]

we shall await thee!

[keen zinc]

Give em hell for me

My work week begins

[unreal merlin]

Even the greenest of Helldivers is more than a match for the enemies of Super Earth.

[jolly mortar]

belay that, actually. post-work fatigue episode is hitting so off to be horizontal for a bit

[honest acorn]

https://fxtwitter.com/notsonarwhals/status/1761530842189373928?s=20

Hell yeah I'm glad this was made

[autumn plover]

gods lol

[rich marlin]

Alright I think I am getting the hang of this game

It’s a lot of fun with friends

[wraith furnace]

Wanna team up for one?

[cobalt patrol]

https://old.reddit.com/r/Helldivers/comments/1axemj4/this_is_the_first_time_ive_been_rick_rolled_by_a/

[upbeat vector]

I hate bugs I hate bugs I hate bugs

[honest acorn]

So that's what they were saying

[autumn plover]

huh is that on the ship or something?

[burnt vapor]

Illegal Broadcast side objective

[autumn plover]

ah

[upbeat vector]

Does anybody have any advice on killing bugs when you're under level 20

[honest acorn]

Any particular ones you're struggling with?

[upbeat vector]

Chargers

And really just all of them, they all feel really tanky and they get in your face and slow and stun me

[meager saffron]

there's no easy way to solo a charger until you unlock the railgun

[oblique lotus]

there's a couple of Skill ways to deal with them

[honest acorn]

The autocannon trick is pretty good

[jolly mortar]

yeah, they're rough in groups let alone solo. but generally the places you wanna hit are the legs or the ass.

[oblique lotus]

the autocannon trick is extremely good if you can land it but it's hard to land it

a recoilless to the leg will sometimes strip armor

[honest acorn]

(You can break charger legs from the back with 2-3 autocannon shots)

[meager saffron]

the main thing with bugs is just running early and extremely often

[oblique lotus]

you get the SPEAR at 20, right?

[honest acorn]

yes

[jolly mortar]

yeah, automatons a lot of the time are about having good positioning to fight back. bugs are about staying on the move.

[oblique lotus]

cluster is your friend

[meager saffron]

especially in light armor they're much slower than you are and you can give them the runaround pretty easily

[oblique lotus]

as much as it's a friendly fire magnet cluster offers consistent, fast horde clear

[upbeat vector]

Staying on the move is really hard when they slow you and throw you around

[oblique lotus]

and you get a lot of cluster

[meager saffron]

you need to be much more pre-emptive in this game

[oblique storm]

https://vxtwitter.com/HelldiversAlert/status/1760966197854572797

https://tenor.com/view/hole-in-one-golf-gif-7913315

[eager pine]

Hey ho someone poke me if you need a squaddie. I'm gonna do some stealth missions to try to loot creds even though I can't open friendship doors alone.

[meager saffron]

if they're getting to group up in such numbers that you can't kill them before they gapclose you're taking on a fight in which you are probably expected to die

[oblique lotus]

and/or use more cluster bombs

[gritty sundial]

can you skip the tutorial by inviting someone to the game xD

[meager saffron]

so run away and build space to use gems/explosives

[gritty sundial]

I told my partner he'd have to do the tutorial and he groaned XD

[oblique lotus]

if you haven't tried it, the eagle cluster strike speaks to god

[meager saffron]

obviously things can go wrong but when that happens the advice is 'idk spam dive a lot'

[jolly mortar]

so, the one bug that really fucks your day up when you're running is the jumpy fuckers, the hunters I think they're called. them and chargers. and the stalkers, which are.. basically turbo-charged hunters. everything else is a matter of seeing them coming and putting them down before they're a problem.

[meager saffron]

'pray'

[oblique lotus]

the tutorial is fun and takes like five minutes

[gritty sundial]

I told him that lmao

[oblique lotus]

drop a strike beacon at your feet and hope the next guy has a better time

[meager saffron]

yeah basically

if the next guy isn't gonna get colander'd by said strike beacon

[honest acorn]

But some options:

• autocannon can break leg armor from the back. Broken leg armor is a Super Weak Spot and the best place to shoot.
• Mag-dumping a high damage weapon like the breaker into the real can break the rear weak spot causing a "bleedout" which kills it in about 10 seconds.
• Eagle 110mm rockets can 1-hit a charger if you're lucky, and break armor if you're not.
• Recoilless Rifle can break leg armor, as can EAT
• Eagle Airstrike can outright kill, but is tricky to hit.
• Grenade launcher can break the bulb on the back pretty well (any explosive can, but it can't break armor)

I've probably missed a few

I've heard the flamethrower can break their armor but not tried that

[oblique lotus]

you can shoot your way out if you start getting overwhelmed but you need specifically high damage weaponry like the knight, breaker, etc

[jolly mortar]

like. the key to countering bugs is a lot of the time just situational awareness. knowing where bugs are around you before they can sneak up on you and just putting them down before they get close.

[upbeat vector]

Oh, it's also really fucking hard to see bugs is my other big problem

[meager saffron]

flamethrower is also a blue falcon magnet

[oblique lotus]

is it?

bugs are pretty visible imo

[meager saffron]

the number of times I've thought ground is not on fire

[oblique lotus]

not the flamer the bugs

[meager saffron]

oh

[upbeat vector]

Yes. They're the same colour as the dust clouds that cover them completely

[oblique lotus]

you can shoot spore towers at basically any distance you can see them at

you do not need to strike them

four charged railgun shots, some number of autocannon shots, one rocket, one strike, etc will clear a spore tower

[honest acorn]

depends on the planet - they blend in pretty well with the redder ones

[jolly mortar]

the only bug I have trouble spotting is the smallest one and that's usually when they're in heavy foliage. which is only a problem insofar as they'll call in a wave if you don't see and drop them quick.

[meager saffron]

having wavy tassels helps my velociraptor brain spot them in dust zones but if it's an actual environmental effect, then that's working as intended

[upbeat vector]

I mean, the waves spawn one or more crushers, that feels like a really fairly big problem?

[oblique lotus]

what difficulty?

[upbeat vector]

Challenging

[oblique lotus]

yeah that's pretty normal for challenging

[upbeat vector]

Yeah

[oblique lotus]

assume that you need to kill one charger per wave

if not more

[jolly mortar]

that's.. normal for challenging, yeah

[oblique lotus]

on higher difficulties I've been fighting like one bile titan every wave or two

[jolly mortar]

challenging is where they start dropping more chargers

[honest acorn]

(Which number is challenging again?)

[upbeat vector]

4

[meager saffron]

when all else fails you have the radar on tab

[honest acorn]

ah yeah

[meager saffron]

which should give you a headsup for anything in range to spot you even without boosters or the scout perk

[upbeat vector]

The wording here made it sound like them calling in a wave wasn't a problem

[oblique lotus]

recoilless/EAT-17 to the leg will pretty consistently strip armor letting you kill it with small arms

it's a problem but it's also kinda unavoidable

complete stealth is much harder than it was in HD1 and imo cannot be assumed

[jolly mortar]

that's not what I meant at all, so I think you misunderstood. I specifically meant that not spotting the bugs that call in the wave is the problem because a wave can spawn.

[meager saffron]

you can avoid them if you're solo but it's one of those things that works up until it really doesn't + it's more often than not unavoidable in pugs

[oblique lotus]

my $0.02 would be to discount eagle rockets because I don't think that they're very good against bugs

[honest acorn]

pugs love fighting

[oblique lotus]

they don't do enough to bile titans and they have a nasty tendency to miss against chargers

[meager saffron]

pugs love fighting and also will generally just head as the crows fly to the next objective

obstacles or patrols be damned

[honest acorn]

yeah vs chargers you have to call it in just after the end a charge

or goomba stomping a sleeping one

[oblique lotus]

plus the eagle callins are massively benefitted by their tier 3 which is the largest increase in strikes/unit time of any upgrade in the game

[jolly mortar]

the only openings I can make for myself fighting a charger on my own is to just make it ram shit and then gets some shots in

[oblique lotus]

the eagle tier 3 is 50% more rockets per unit time

which is incredible compared to all of the other upgrades

100% more 500kg bombs, etc

at worst it's 25% more clusters and even then that's more than any other upgrade

[meager saffron]

yeah I've taken the gl while solo/lo-man as a grudging acknowledgment that I will inevitably have to deal with chargers alone

and taking the railgun solo is a little fiddlier than it is in a team

[oblique lotus]

I found out that you could kill chargers with 3 railgun shots to the head and from that moment on I feared no bug

[honest acorn]

This is not a reason to not use them without that upgrade

[oblique lotus]

except for bile titans

[jolly mortar]

same for me, really. I wind up packing the GL on pug bug runs a lot because I cannot really trust randos to properly counter chargers enough to take anything else.

[honest acorn]

Though yeah the rockets are pretty much ass vs anything but chargers

[oblique lotus]

I got distracted but that extra 50% is imo a lot more impactful when they're your primary antiarmor as opposed to bots where you can save them to pop tanks

[honest acorn]

I bring em when I have so much light armor kill that I'll never really need much for that

[oblique lotus]

railcannon's also 20?

[honest acorn]

Yes

[meager saffron]

railgun is 20

[oblique lotus]

the orbital railcannon not the railgun

[meager saffron]

i think that too

[oblique lotus]

and wow damn all the good anti armor options are 20

[jolly mortar]

yep

[meager saffron]

yep

[upbeat vector]

Yeah, it kind of feels pretty bad

[honest acorn]

You get the autocannon well before then and its probably your best bet

[jolly mortar]

it's why a lot of noobs go into bot missions because of the malevelon creek meme and get wiped, because so many of the anti-armor options are in the back-end of the unlocks

[honest acorn]

(I am an autocannon enjoyer though)

[meager saffron]

the EAT is workable

just feels somewhat like shit not having an actual tertiary weapon

or having to spend a second slot to make up for that fact

[jolly mortar]

the EAT is.. alright, yeah. I couldn't stand having to reload that much though, I beelined the recoilless ASAP.

[upbeat vector]

What's really funny is, I find the anti-armour I have avaliable to me much easier to use against bots than bugs

[meager saffron]

you're getting the two mixed up if you think the EAT reloads

[upbeat vector]

Autocannon fucks against the stuff bots throw at you at lower difficulties

[autumn plover]

random but wheres the setting to set your diver voice again? i remember someone saying you could do as such but i forget where lol

[jolly mortar]

I'm using reload kind of loosely there.

[upbeat vector]

Armoury, somewhere in the customization menu

[honest acorn]

can you stick chargers with call in beacons? I haven't tried

[meager saffron]

yes

[honest acorn]

+1 for eats then haha

[meager saffron]

I have just never found it reliable to get a recoilless reloader buddy, especially not in pugs

and the failstate of the recoilless is awful

[honest acorn]

I just load my own 6 seconds isn't that bad

[jolly mortar]

Autocannon is genuinely solid against bots though, yeah. you can reliably one-shot walkers with it.

[meager saffron]

compared to autocannon where one mag still goes a fair way

[honest acorn]

It is admittedly a little harder to get vs bugs than bots

[oblique lotus]

I do like the EAT17 just because you don't have to worry about losing it

[meager saffron]

yeah if you're getting chargered you might as well jut run the EAT

[jolly mortar]

but railgun genuinely flips the anti-bot gameplay on its head once you get it

[meager saffron]

you're not getting a second shot

[oblique lotus]

worst case scenario you grab an extra

[honest acorn]

Autocannon also has a 2-3 second reload if you keep one in the chamber

[jolly mortar]

you start coring Hulks like no tomorrow

[upbeat vector]

Whereas I tried to use it against bugs, and they just always got too close for me to be able to use it

[honest acorn]

It's really easy to keep fed on your own ime

[oblique lotus]

quick check, you're not playing solo, right?

[upbeat vector]

Autocannon I found to have like, a really quick reload time

[upbeat vector]

No, with somewhere between 1-3 friends I'm in a call with

[oblique lotus]

and if you call them in on cooldown you'll scatter a bunch across the map for whenever you need one

ok good

[upbeat vector]

Even loading from empty, it's faster than the MG

[meager saffron]

your options for dealing with armor in a team below 20 are subpar
your options for dealing with armor solo below 20 are nonexistent

[honest acorn]

Autocannon has a really long one if you fully empty it because of its 120% pure ass ergonomics but really fast for just a partial

(Mostly because the reload staging on it feels really unfair to me)

[jolly mortar]

the MG is like, one of the slowest supports to reload in general honestly

[meager saffron]

i do not understand the lmg

maybe this is just arc thrower brain

[upbeat vector]

Er, which one do you mean?

[jolly mortar]

the stalwart seems like it kind of just redundancy's the basic MG

[meager saffron]

either of them frankly but the machine gun that's just called the machine gun seems completely pointless

[stone bridge]

Nah, definitely not

The basic MG has medium armour pierce

[meager saffron]

but again arc thrower brain

[jolly mortar]

I guess my opinion's more coming from the place that I wrote the MG off entirely when I got newer, better support guns

[upbeat vector]

Arc Thrower unlocks at level 20 though

or maybe level 15, but I'm 30 hours in and I don't have it unlocked so

[stone bridge]

Against bots it'll throttle Devastators in under a second and just generally has cracked DPS if you turn up the RPM to 900

[meager saffron]

are you shitting me

there's ANOTHER gun that only works with a fire select

god dammit

[jolly mortar]

I legitimately never thought to check it for one lmao

[honest acorn]

Arc Thrower is less than 20 but I don't remember which level it is

[stone bridge]

lmao

[upbeat vector]

MG is good even without the fire select

[meager saffron]

I'm going to throttle John Helldiver

[upbeat vector]

The fire select just makes it even better

[jolly mortar]

honestly didn't even find out about the fire-select till after I'd abandonded it, though

[copper crest]

You can sorta treat solo recoilless as "EAT but you trade a backpack slot for a slow reload"

[meager saffron]

the problem with that against bugs is that your backpack slot is strictly better than most power weapons because of how busted the rover is

[honest acorn]

Eats also have a like 70 second cd and kill anything they land on

[upbeat vector]

Cause you can make it slower, which conserves ammo and lets you use it on the move, and then you can make it fast to shred whatever you want

[oblique lotus]

it does??

[copper crest]

But that means not taking rover or shield or supply pack, yeah

[honest acorn]

It has light+ armor pierce

There's some medium armors it doesn't break I think

LIke scout walker fronts

[meager saffron]

I could have an EAT that I can reload or I could effectively have a second helldiver strapped to my ass

[oblique lotus]

oh on the topic of using the MGs on the move recoil like, halves in first person

[stone bridge]

God the armour tiering in this game is wonky

[oblique lotus]

I can control the stalwart at 1150 RPM from the shoulder extremely easily in first person

same with the MG

channel your valorant pulldown skills

[meager saffron]

if you're crouched in 1P for the actual MG it's a laser

[stone bridge]

I do think the MG/Stalwart want for buffs due to the GL being so good at horde slaying and having true medium armour pierce

[jolly mortar]

I think that's where I land, yeah

the GL is just so much better than both

[stone bridge]

And being explosive on top of that

[honest acorn]

#1102973812179488798 message

There's some fucky stuff with armor calcs

I'm not sure what they are yet though

[oblique lotus]

gah cyan what the hell is that

[jolly mortar]

to use either machine gun instead of the GL makes me feel like i'm inherently taking a lesser pick because the GL just whips

[meager saffron]

yeah if you want to take out little dinky crowds the GL can do that, pop bile spewers, and also has the extra utility of being able to close holes without wasting nades

[honest acorn]

But there's more than 3 grades of arpen

[honest acorn]

Huh?

[oblique lotus]

it's oscillating between an official discord link and #unknown

[honest acorn]

screenshot

[oblique lotus]

and it doesn't link correctly

ah

interesting

[stone bridge]

I sure wish it told us this in game

[honest acorn]

yeah same

[meager saffron]

darktide 🤝 helldivers

[jolly mortar]

I have a hard time gauging how much of this is deliberate game design choices and how much of it is just them not thinking we needed to know this.

[meager saffron]

also hold on what the fuck drag

is there aerodynamics in this game

[honest acorn]

I've also noticed some weird stuff like the Lib Penner doing more damage than it ought to and some really strange behavior with "medium armor pen" vs glowing plate weak spots

[meager saffron]

does atmo affect bullet drop

[honest acorn]

Oh god maybe it does

Per planet atmospherics augh

[meager saffron]

[stone bridge]

I mean that's the thing - people want to make informed decisions

[honest acorn]

There's already fuckin eclipses on some of them

[stone bridge]

I can't make informed decisions if I don't have facts in front of me

[jolly mortar]

On one hand there's an interesting thematic bit at play that does kinda fascinate me, on the other I agree. I'd like hard stats to inform how I make choices on loadouts.

[meager saffron]

frankly the penner doing any damage at all would seem like 'more damage than usual' to me

[oblique lotus]

I'm assuming that the scythe has something else behind the scenes beyond its raw damage because otherwise at 300 DPS it'd struggle to kill things even more than it already does

[meager saffron]

wonder if it has spinup like destiny trace rifles

[oblique lotus]

and in HD1 there was an entire library of game mechanics that nobody ever figured out until very late in the games life cycle

[meager saffron]

yes, this laser beam that fires at 1000 rpm spins up if you sustain fire

[honest acorn]

I think it might - the tone and reticule change as you hold the trigger

And not just from heat, its different if you tapfire it at high heat

[meager saffron]

this game is gonna drive me to drink

[jolly mortar]

same

and yet i'll keep diving

[upbeat vector]

Don't drink and Helldive

[jolly mortar]

i've done it

[meager saffron]

i do what i want splatters teammate

[jolly mortar]

if anything i'm a better diver when drunk

[upbeat vector]

It makes you struggle against bugs

Source: Me, right now, starting that conversation earlier

[stone bridge]

I should get a beer

[oblique lotus]

I've noticed that my aim improves after a drink or two

smooths out

[jolly mortar]

same.

it starts smoothing out when i get buzzed. the further in I go the more I enter a flow state.

usually, at least.

hellpod customization: beer cooler

[meager saffron]

paying the cops at the valorant arena to let me take my fent through the gates

[oblique lotus]

there's an upper limit where my ability to make decisions is sufficiently impaired that it's a net negative

[jolly mortar]

bribing the democracy officer to let you drop with a full 24pk of PBR

[oblique lotus]

but a drink or two usually helps

[honest acorn]

It doesn't help that HD2 uses the same engine as HD1 and has been officially abandoned for 6 years

[jolly mortar]

that's wild to me, given that the graphical jump is so stark

[upbeat vector]

Wait what

[honest acorn]

They're both made in Bitsquid AKA Autodesk Stingray

This is also the engine that the 'Tide series uses

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bitsquid

[jolly mortar]

horde games is the same

[honest acorn]

That's honestly my takeaway

Every game about 4 people fighting many AI driven enemies is actually the same game in a different hat

[oblique lotus]

nani

[meager saffron]

made by fucking autodesk 💀

[stone bridge]

Holy shit

[oblique lotus]

bought by autodesk

[lethal dagger]

i assumed it did because the crosshair spins up the longer you fire it but i have been told that it doesn't

it would be cool if it did T_T

[glad marsh]

<@&1206091872716595200> We got 2 more slots for a squad!

[rich marlin]

gets on to play with pilot.net Helldivers
They're amazing people
surpisedpikachuface.jpg

was a lovely set of missions, I look forward to more fun times with you all

Oh I need the Helldiver role, is that something I should go get in bot stuff?

[honest acorn]

Yes

[unreal merlin]

[wraith furnace]

ah damn I don't have that emote

Fun playing with y'all!

[cobalt patrol]

I'm around for Helldiving, though i'm probably gonna stay off voice

just very tired right now

but lemme know <@&1206091872716595200>

[rotund marten]

I generally just fire about eight slugger shots or a couple of breaker magazines into it from a distance, it has straight up zero armour

although autocannon helps

autocannon and AMR are your low level anti-armour options for bots, you can kill hulks by shooting them in the eye a couple of times and you can kill tanks by hitting the vents if someone else pulls aggro

for bugs you'll probably want to learn to hit the charger abdomens or legs with a GL or AC respectively if you don't want to be spamming the EAT callin on cooldown to drop disposable AT everywhere, shooting them in a leg with it and then magdumping said leg with a normal gun

[cobalt patrol]

People need to not be fucking morons with the mortar turrrets, my god

[jolly mortar]

honestly those mortar turrets are a hazard in general

if you're defending a point and can't keep the enemy away from you, you're going to likely eat mortar fire.

[stone bridge]

they're also extremely useful

[jolly mortar]

oh, very

[stone bridge]

which is the rub

[jolly mortar]

but it's like the laser drone. high risk high reward.

[barren iron]

I place mortar turrets to initiate fights

[stone bridge]

if they sucked ass i'd have no qualms leaving them at home, but they do real work

[barren iron]

Rather than to defend

[jolly mortar]

they will kill shit real good but even careful usage can wind up in friendlies getting hit

[barren iron]

I WANT A MORTAR SUPPORT WEAPON

[jolly mortar]

that would be fun, honestly. with the option to buddy-load it to go faster.

mortars go brrrrrrrrrrrrrt.

[barren iron]

I fw mortars so much theyre so cool

[stone bridge]

i'd definitely be down for that

[jolly mortar]

anyone else completely unable to even get into the login queue? keeps hitting me with 'failed to establish connection' and when I press to dismiss it, it pops right back up

[unreal merlin]

Mortar Sentry definitely is a hazard if used inappropriately (mainly when bugs are involved), but when used appropriately it can be extremely useful for many things like initiating on an outpost or baiting a patrol (mainly when bots are involved).

[jolly mortar]

yeah see I've mostly seen it misused during bug maps

bugs are.. not great for it, because they rush you and draw the mortar fire right to you while rushing, is my experience

[jolly mortar]

also belay this, my wifi is apparently acting a fool

[unreal merlin]

s t r a t e g y

Anyway mortar isn't bad at all if you're remaining conscious of HOW IT CHOOSES TARGETS and if it's in a situation to choose a new target (its current one is dead).

This helps inform you on which direction you should be running like mad.

This is also a lot harder in the middle of bug chaos.

[jolly mortar]

yeah I figured that out the hard way

by picking the wrong direction to run. many times. before i started figuring out the right directions.

and yay I got ingame the wifi cooperated

[cobalt patrol]

Arrrgh

I keep getting the stupid lost your main weapon bugs

Yeah, i've got no objection to a mortar turret deployed when defending an area

it's the Moratar deployed... when you're headed into clearing a heavy nest

and other idiociy.

[unreal merlin]

Yeah. Bug nests aren't good times for mortars, given the core objective there is often running into that target area.

[jolly mortar]

okay, yeah, I'd never use a mortar turret for a nest.

that's just begging to get killed.

[stone bridge]

@serene skiff here's the thread btw!

[rotund marten]

anti-bot fit, the stats helmet and the cape work fine with this armour too

<@&1206091872716595200> diving again, doing some casual bots on 6 to test some different stuff

[cobalt patrol]

I'll join you soon

[dusk meadow]

i'M DOWN

oop, caps lock lol

[naive dragon]

I am the only person I've seen who uses a ballistic shield

I like being able to switch from it plus SMG to LMG

[versed hamlet]

"becoming"
like the only differences I see between this and america are that america usually declassifies it's stuff eventually and isn't as competent or universal at killing dissendents

starship troopers was already a deconstruction of this

irl relies a little bit more about the apathy of past events while super earth goes harder on the control

but I have no doubt that if super earth released a list of it's lies the people there would still believe it was for the greater good and deny it was wrong to do that

[stone bridge]

hybrid creature

[versed hamlet]

I dread the day it spawns 3 rocket devestators and 3 shield ones instead of just 6 shield ones

[stone bridge]

yeah autocannon is your best friend there

[versed hamlet]

railgun probably as well

... now I'm confused how that kept happening but it was probably in my first 40 hours before I got railgun and shield

[barren iron]

Shield devs arent that bad imo

Even with anti armor grenades will stagger them

Without*

Giving you a chance to blast em

[barren reef]

Shield devs have the critical weakness of their shield having a freaking notch in it exposing their unarmored frontal weakpoint.

[cobalt patrol]

i managed to kill TWO bile titans with a single railgun shot.

[hexed steeple]

nice

[keen zinc]

Bah gawd I love the grenade launcher

Can't wait for armor to be fixed that is my most anticipated patch by far

I want to wear the heavy armor with the 40mms on it

https://tenor.com/view/demoman-shooting-memes-shooting-guns-tf2-gif-18730188

[naive dragon]

Whoever designed this helmet deserves a medal

[meager sandal]

Demon X Machina type fit

[rotund marten]

can now fit all my unfinished achievements on one screen

wondering if the way to get the injuries one is to have a teammate grab the Liberator Penetrator and pop you in each limb manually

[candid finch]

Potentially

a lot of these ones left over seem like team achievements

except the fire one, that just needs napalm strikes, the incendary breaker and the flamethrower

[meager sandal]

The charger one you can just throw a supply beacon on it. Blue stragems track to the beacon unlike reds where it lands where you threw it

[keen zinc]

What the fuck

For real?

That's a convenient way to deal with a charger

[barren reef]

IIRC the strategem orb bounces off armor so you might need to wait until it rears up to stick it?

[keen zinc]

Or stick the booty

[barren reef]

Ah yes the booty.

Sorry I'm an autocannon user all I know is feet

[keen zinc]

I use the GL, my method is "to whom it may concern"

Jump pack, supply pack, grenade launcher, eagle airstrike

Surprisingly versatile load out

[barren reef]

I am pretty sure my autocannon would do a great job raising my children. Dang thing does everything. Kills armored targets, closes bug holes, blows up factories, snipes spore throwers and illegal broadcast towers, files your taxes...

[versed hamlet]

not if it's a ball of them literally inside each other

I've killed two chargers with supply beacons and one with a backpack pod
once was luck the other was when it got into a standoff
it's not that bad if you just throw stuff down constantly

[versed hamlet]

eagle airstrike does so much so often

[keen zinc]

Yeah it's really the do it all stratagem

[barren reef]

I usually roll rocket pods and eagle airstrike. I frequently use rover/shield and anti-material rifle or autocannon and napalm depending on bots/bugs

Railcannon depending on how much anti-armor the squad has.

I really like the rover but I can't decide on a support weapon for bugs. I guess I can use the railgun and keep playing anti-charger but iunno.

[versed hamlet]

railgun also works okay on everything else if unsafe charged

although grenade launcher wrecks anything that isn't charger or bile titan super hard

[barren reef]

It's so snappy while it's safe though. Hard for me to justify sometimes .

[versed hamlet]

unsafe is like
the exact same thing except you get more damage the longer you charge and if you hold your charge for so long you were better off wasting it shooting at nothing, you die instead
it takes quite a while for it to explode and I'm pretty sure you always get a minor damage benefit always since you can't perfectly unload as soon as it's charged normally anyways
at least ime the charge time to first be able to shoot is the same

[barren reef]

I'm sure the charge time is the same but it feels like it charges faster when it's set to safe. I can't explain it.

[versed hamlet]

huh
it's probably because it stops charging so you know when it's done
which is a thing I didn't think of
but we could also compare and probably should to make sure

I personally prefer just overcharging a tad instead of risking having to shoot again if the weakspot misses
both spewers are probably the main thing I regret not having a GL for because it takes two shots of that and it's really quick

I'd reallllly like it if we actually got the stats of support weapons
and reload times for everything

it feels super hard to 'science' it ourselves because angles play such a huge factor against the larger enemies

[barren reef]

I need to convince my playgroup to meme and run scythe/laser cannon + rovers. We ran 4 rovers during extraction and it was pretty goofy.

[versed hamlet]

scythe is funny but the dps ultimately feels low
which is probably why it gives you so many backup heatsinks because you're supposed to reload and keep firing even after the 8

oh and I guess I also have a qol complaint with it similar to how you don't like unsafe
the starting fire delay feels really annoying

[barren reef]

Yeah that's part of why the laser cannon is so weird. Only 1 reload makes you really reluctant to overheat it.

Even though you probably should overheat it.

[versed hamlet]

like I'm trying to not do a laser rover and sweep across the entire battlefield shooting nothing for a full second
but that means stopping firing and starting again which has a weird delay and recoil (?)

[barren reef]

I feel like you should be swapping off of laser weapons if you're not going to reload them, and you just have to be ok with using your other weapons at any given moment.

[versed hamlet]

unfortunately there's only like
3 secondary weapons rn outside of dlc

[barren reef]

Yeah they are mostly really bad too. The senator feels like it's damage is right in the doodoo zone for breakpoints, and the machine pistol is better than the starting pistol in pretty much every way.

[versed hamlet]

and the machine pistol is good but it'll run out of ammo insanely quick and counteract having infinite on your primary because you'll run out of things to swap too

I tried single firing it but it felt too weird

I don't think it has burst, it's probably one of the few guns I'd actually use burst on

[barren reef]

fr

[versed hamlet]

although my current loadout just panic dumps it into a ton of berserkers or enemies swarming me as a last resort usually sooooo

defender smg is just
really good

[versed hamlet]

yeah
there's probably an equalish proportion of good to bad primaries but the first couple are good and there's so many more of them so it's not like an overt issue

[naive dragon]

I don't even remember if there is a weird niche version of the smg

But if there is I want it to be good

[supple siren]

there's a DLC SMG and it kind of whips

basically like a Big Huge Machine Pistol

think it's 1150 rpm or somethin

[naive dragon]

I've been doing the shield SMG combo

[supple siren]

I love that the shield works while on your back, too

Turtlestrat..

[naive dragon]

Ye

[supple siren]

But I'd love more offhand items

[naive dragon]

I use LMG too so

Swap to big mg and then my back safe

[versed hamlet]

you get the all rounder which combines range and auto dps, the better marksman rifle, and then the defender which sacrifices range reliability for efficiency

then later you get the breaker
and then there's a few 'niche but good at that niche' things like the slugger
but then half the remaining weapons are basically just downgrades in the vein of the starting pistol and the other half have a gimmick but sacrifice a lot for it and the gimmick is bad at what it does like the revolver ig

[naive dragon]

I like the Senator

[versed hamlet]

I've been focusing on the main battlepass for now so haven't tried it

how big are it's reserves?

that's such an important stat but is never listed

[naive dragon]

6 round mag 40 round reserve

It's not a main weapon by any standard but when it comes to "I'm on my back and my gun is empty, there's six bots directly on top of me and I'm bleeding"

[versed hamlet]

but what if there's 7 smh

[naive dragon]

Senator saves my ass

[supple siren]

Senator oneshots the basic-bots and it's never not satisfying

[naive dragon]

Then I am a martyr for Super Earth

[versed hamlet]

I have medic armor so if I have control I usually survive that
but I've been getting stunlocked a lot more recently it feels like
but it could just be random enemy type rolls

[naive dragon]

Also on bugs I have noticed it ignores hive guard armor

Or more "shreds a gaping hole in it"

[versed hamlet]

is it medium armor pen???

[naive dragon]

It says light

[versed hamlet]

apparently the slugger is and the stat page lies

but maybe hive guard armor is just secretly awful

[naive dragon]

But it is very funny "ha ha armor"

Watching the top and bottom halves of a devastator go in different directions funny

[versed hamlet]

here's the list of 'armor' to my understanding:
weakpoint
normal not weakpoint uncovered areas (ie light)
infantry armor (ie medium)
vehicle armor (is there another?)

[naive dragon]

I choose my loadout based on vibes you see

[versed hamlet]

I may be an smg addict in the only other fps I play
but it's for entirely different reasons

[naive dragon]

It's why everyone gets mad at me for not having optimal call-ins ( walking barrage funny)

[hollow plover]

Walking barrage sexy

[glad marsh]

Only time I've gotten a bit annoyed was when someone brought all the landmines and kept dropping them right on top of us

I mean
It was a cute bit the first time

But it got old fast

[hollow plover]

That's less of an issue with the stratagems
Mines can be put anywhere, just as long as you have some room to maneuver on point

[versed hamlet]

I feel like what stratagems you bring isn't nearly as bad as how you use them
in some missions I'll end up gifting backpacks to everyone by the end, in other ones they'll refuse to pick them up and march into an outpost alone and die 10 times in a row

this is a game where equipment sharing can shore up any loadout as long as one person has good stuff

which is kinda why I feel railgun and rover are a bit overtuned
you don't need anything else as long as you have grenades that can blow up nests and fabricators
it'll be suffering sure

which kinda invalidates the point of synergistic loadouts outside of the higher difficulties

[hollow plover]

Ye
Reducing the lifetime for laser rover and upping the necessary charge time for a proper unsafe shot would make them less of a no-brainer

[versed hamlet]

railgun is probably too strong even on safe
I ran it like that for a while before someone told me how unsafe actually worked

not really on direct strength but rather it doesn't need a backpack slot so less opportunity cost, and it's just 'the answer to armor'
it's a jack of all trades that still competes in strength as if it were a specialized weapon

although rover being nerfed would give more room for horde clear merit on other weapons

[supple siren]

They need to give flamethrower proper range, games always make them melee weapons

[naive dragon]

They were very kind to the range on shotguns

But yeah the best part of the flamethrower is not being on fire after using it, making them super close range is weird

[wraith furnace]

My fireteam: Man you gotta be careful with those cluster bombs, you sure you don't wanna use anything else

Me: I like the pop rock bomb :3

[glacial light]

Helldivers is like the first game I've played where a shotgun is the best weapon

[wraith furnace]

Genuinely tho I do try and be as careful as I can

[wraith furnace]

Legit I do love the fucking shotguns

I just wish stealth gameplay wasn't as much of a pain in the ass or else I'd do that more

[keen zinc]

https://www.rxddit.com/r/Helldivers/s/RDL4OyVGi0

[glacial light]

A nice QoL of life would be to mark a radius around the beacon to be red but maybe that's not that "realism" they want

I throw an eagle and suddenly my teammates are Usain bolting to the eagle area

[wraith furnace]

Honestly? I feel like usability over realism is a good thing

Buuuut then that might take away from the need to communicate so idk

[keen zinc]

Just a little red icon appearing below your compass saying "DANGER CLOSE" would do

Maybe a little arrow showing direction of nearest stratagem beacon

[wraith furnace]

Danger Close would be a nice touch

[glacial light]

Yea or like a sound or visual if you're in close proximity to a becon

[keen zinc]

They turned up the AC on the super destroyers lately

My cape is always flapping

[wraith furnace]

Ah 17 being dramatic

With her cape

[oblique storm]

It's been like this since launch

[glacial light]

They set the HVAC to super democratic mode

[versed hamlet]

a lot of people only play with text chat
even with some people here we'll chill in text in a duo for a bit

there is a voice line for throwing though and that helps
but recently I've been having more difficulty telling if beacons are blue or red if I'm close to them, at a distance it's usually still fine

[hexed steeple]

<@&1206091872716595200> any divers for hell?

[umbral temple]

Did u get a team I can dive in like 3 mins

[honest acorn]

I can do an op

[honest acorn]

<@&1206091872716595200> tonite 👀

[glacial light]

When I play pub I have voice and text off

Playing in sweet bliss

[junior badge]

ugh, we had a teamkiller 😦

[honest acorn]

(I’m good for now too)

[jolly mortar]

honestly I don't want it to avoid friendly fire. I want it so my spatially challenged ass can actually aim the damn stratagems.

most of the time there's.. a lot of hoping and praying I got it right when I chuck the beacon.

[honest acorn]

(I’m just being cute, I want to play now haha)

[hexed steeple]

got wrapped up in something but i could play in like 30 minutes

[azure pewter]

https://tenor.com/view/shummer-death_dive-dive-fail-failed-dive-dive-gif-12569456

[umbral temple]

[honest acorn]

Just a sec

[jolly mortar]

I can prolly hop on for a run or three before I work

[umbral temple]

i will be there shortly to helldive if u still have space

[jolly mortar]

one spot i think yeah, about to join myself

[umbral temple]

friend code!!!
#8335-8178

[naive dragon]

I can hell dive later tonight

In like four or five hours

(I am trash)

[keen zinc]

I am level 30+ and this is my main strategy

DRAUPNIR LIBERATED

https://youtu.be/f2bHoTUiMpI?si=EA8zNBeWlUsn43wH

[glacial light]

I saw a treasonous tiktok about a theory on how super earth sabotages bug farms on dissident planets to create an infestation then sends in the helldivers to rescue the survivors

[keen zinc]

"sabotages"

The farms ARE them seeding backwater worlds to have outbreaks to justify war and gain oil

The war IS the farm

They feed worlds to bugs and collect oil and war industry

[autumn plover]

last night in my first game ever i was playing with the gf and pistol whipped a robot to death just to prove a point lol

[keen zinc]

That's the way you do it

Yesterday playing with friends I yelled "NO FEAR HERE" as they warned me about fighting amidst a bombardment, only to then immediately be killed by the 500kg that hit the tank I was distracting.

@merry tartan's bomb iirc

WE'RE HELLDIVERS, WE'RE MEANT TO BE SURROUNDED

[jolly mortar]

Charger hit me so hard my game locked my entire computer up

I was gonna have to drop out after that mission to get ready for work anyways but I guess it was making sure I did lmao

[azure pewter]

@rotund marten

[keen zinc]

https://youtu.be/yw4sZfKPinY?si=RCYonY5y9eso3-wV

[glacial light]

A target rich environment for our super democracy ordnances

[keen zinc]

I strive to embody the CoH1 paratrooper as a Helldiver

[keen zinc]

https://www.rxddit.com/r/Helldivers/s/R6A6mkKNrX

It begins

The horny

[naive dragon]

Is that the 500kg

[keen zinc]

Yep

[eager pine]

I've seen people associating Eagle 1 with Prez from Project Wingman.

[indigo bear]

Any divers?
Friend code: #3082-2737

[south temple]

that was my first thought ngl

[rustic portal]

also while the Democracy Officer is obviously a riff on Lance Reddick as Zavala, its actually Ike Amadi (the current Martian Manhunter, Locke in Halo 5, Javik in ME3, etc)

[meager saffron]

i miss lance so much

[oblique lotus]

oh that's why he sounds familiar

[daring monolith]

https://vxtwitter.com/Heartbreak_Juan/status/1760791567336665174?s=20

[jolly mortar]

semi related but on the topic of VAs, Brasch is none other than

https://tenor.com/view/drifter-destiny2-ding-tag-flick-gif-16330328

[eager pine]

"They will not be our salvation! We will be theirs!"

Gotta love Zavala just hearing some obscure ominous statement from mysterious aliens and responding with the most self important "No U" ever.

'You're not crying! I'm crying!'

Everyone needs to meet my democracy officer.

[high hamlet]

an explosion flung me halfway across the map. i got a trophy for it.

[idle hollow]

i knew he sounded familiar

need him to threaten to throw something out the super destroyer’s airlock now

[naive dragon]

🤔 I think some of these randos do friendly fire on purpose

average super citizen:

[stark ether]

i think to date i still have 0 friendly kills

[upbeat vector]

Absurd

Untrustworthy

[honest acorn]

That’s FF taken I think

[naive dragon]

Does it include your own orbitals dropping on you

[upbeat vector]

I've actually only dropped my own orbitals on me like, twice

[naive dragon]

I spent a whole round getting dunked on by my allies' callouts that round

[honest acorn]

I think so

I saw someone take 12,000 FF damage

Which I think was a Hellbomb

[kindred lintel]

When I started playing, it was me an 3 others. They all had ~6 accidentals, but me (the mortar user) had 70

[honest acorn]

Lmao

[glacial light]

It's not a real mission unless I have one accidental from an eagle strike

[honest acorn]

It’s not a mission unless someone yells at me about gas strikes (they don’t hurt allies atm)

(Unless the shell hits you)

[kindred lintel]

"I'm fartin' up a cloud, hold your nostrils!"

[honest acorn]

I think it’s bugged but allies just cough a storm and take no damage

But the caller dies in like half a second

[meager saffron]

I've definitely killed myself with gas

ah

yeah I think something's weird

I've seen them do the waving hands animation and cough voicelines while remaining at 100

[honest acorn]

I think it’s bugged they cough and such but take no damage

I kinda hope it stays because it’s great for allies to assault through

[meager saffron]

it would be an interesting distinction with napalm

which seems to just sort of kill things more effectively and spread in a more useful aoe shape without needing ems

[kindred lintel]

While eagles are good, I really like the oribitals for their simplicity and short cd (yes I know eagles are very short)

[stone bridge]

i mean, depends on the orbital

most of the orbitals have long CDs

[kindred lintel]

the 110 and 350 are garbage

I like the gas strike and gatling

[stone bridge]

the short ones are good

The true champion being EMS Strike

[daring monolith]

airburst is pretty nice

the default precision orbital also isn't awful

[kindred lintel]

airburst actually hits 3 times, unlike in hd1

[glad marsh]

<@&1206091872716595200> anyone wanna get an op or two in?

[honest acorn]

We need precision arty barrage

[glad marsh]

that's what SEAF is, no?

[stone bridge]

the 120mm needs tracking

[rustic portal]

we need orbital mini-nukes

[kindred lintel]

500kg but good

[tranquil adder]

It’s not that horny ngl

[unreal merlin]

120mm and 380mm are so ridiculously inaccurate, I genuinely don't see the use-case for them.

[meager saffron]

have you ever wanted to hit everything but the broad side of a barn

[stone bridge]

they're useless, yes

[honest acorn]

https://helldivers.fandom.com/wiki/Sledge_Precision_Artillery

[unreal merlin]

Precision orbital is something I wanna bring more often though because previously I'd been using just Eagle 110mm rockets to bust automaton outposts. Now though I want to use precision orbital strike to knock out the light bases without expending eagle charges.

[stone bridge]

they need mechanical changes to actually be any good

[honest acorn]

I have seen the 380 mm solo clear large bases

But it’s completely random if it does

[glad marsh]

I suppose you have to trust in the RNG of the shells

[burnt vapor]

Which when you have more reliable options hurts

[unreal merlin]

The other day I used 380mm with the explicit reasoning of "I have decided I hate this direction, woe, 380 and walking barrage upon ye"

[honest acorn]

As it stands they either need to drop a lot more boom or hit a smaller area

Since a lot of them basically just kick up dirt

[stone bridge]

i think the 380mm would be fine if the shells had like

2x the radius

really make it into a "Fuck this area" strat

[meager saffron]

yeah the explosion falloff calculation in this game is just bizarre

[autumn plover]

somewhat unrelated. but i have found one fairly specific nitpick with the game. as of now for some reason the control settings mkb dont let you have aim as a non hold and still be able to also do aim down sights mode as well

at least not with any setting combos ive tried

[meager saffron]

a 500kg bomb has about a 1m radius of absolute annihilation and 100m of visual obstruction

[honest acorn]

The GOAT call in is tricking bot arty towers into hitting their own

I saw one take out a tank

[honest acorn]

I honestly think it might be bugged

But it is a spectacular explosion vfx

[autumn plover]

on this does anyone know if im just crazy and using the wrong settings or?

[meager saffron]

the broken down hellbombs you find in the environment have more fitting blast radii

[autumn plover]

cuz holding down right to aim starts to bug my shoulder

[honest acorn]

It’s a shame that enemies are good about destroying hellbombs

They were pretty good for killing enemies in HD1

But also took 25 seconds to drop in

[honest acorn]

As in won’t go into first person?

[autumn plover]

yeah like if i set my aim with right button to like just a toggle whethers its just normal click or long click to do it

like the function for first person stops working and i have no idea why

ok this seems to be a known issue

https://steamcommunity.com/app/553850/discussions/1/4206994023681955076/

[unreal merlin]

https://helldivers.fandom.com/wiki/Shredder_Missile_Strike
Shredder Missile Strike my beloved, you were so important for high level Exterminate missions.

[kindred lintel]

Warning Siren

[unreal merlin]

The solution to overwhelming bots, bugs, or squids? Everyone bring max shredder strikes and just take turns lobbing them to the other side of the arena.

[autumn plover]

i guess i just am going to have to have my shoulder hurt until this weird aiming bug is fixed rip

[keen zinc]

IT HAS BEGUN

[meager saffron]

if I open this at work will I be strung from the neck until dead

and if so: why

[tranquil adder]

Alright that’s a bit different

[autumn plover]

i hate it

[stone bridge]

yeah this is a bit too far, could you delete this

[autumn plover]

also random praise for the game. that you can use either body shape with any voice and also as the most bizarre thing i appreciate the very first voice option is vaguel a "lady one" which i think is the first game ive seen that be the first voice option lol

[honest acorn]

lol the goat

[honest acorn]

But also yeah

[autumn plover]

im with higgy ngl lol

[keen zinc]

I try to be sex positive

But yeah it's a bit much

[autumn plover]

i mean theres a difference between being sex positive, a thing i very much am, and weird objectifying art imo

[meager saffron]

please don't post porn in a sfw server

[stone bridge]

it's not porn, it was just - yeah what Unde said

[honest acorn]

https://x.com/lordbalvin/status/1761567412019720371?s=46&t=RjdIzh2qFuWkjovzBmgCsQ

Big Boss 🇵🇸 (@LordBalvin) on X

Reloading after every kill in FPS games really ruined me. When my mag in Helldivers 2 is half empty, that reload button start calling to me like the Green Goblin mask

Twitter · Feb 25, 2024, 1:42 AM

[stone bridge]

not gonna go quite that far, but it was too much

[autumn plover]

mood

i had to start thinking about the game like i was playing squad

cuz its a bizarre mix of clown shoes and sim shooter lol

which i dig but it took a second to stop confusing me lol

[hallow gorge]

The secret is you just die before you need a resupply so you can reload all you want

[autumn plover]

lol

[meager saffron]

dying = full resource replenishment

[autumn plover]

also like when going solo the game feels like sorta weird parody scifi mgs

sorta

[wind arrow]

i see no problem with reloading half mag - izen, punisher engjoyer

[honest acorn]

I do like the punisher

I think my favorite primaries atm are the breaker, scythe, and normal liberator

But I like most of them

I’m also relatively convinced that much of the stat pages are made up and don’t add up

[stone bridge]

They don't tell you really important info

[unreal merlin]

Do give the Scorcher a shot (whenever you can steal it from someone who has it unlocked).

[honest acorn]

https://static0.gamerantimages.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/helldivers-2-las-5-scythe-1.jpg

This is the fakest one though

[honest acorn]

Which one is that?

The plasma?

[hollow plover]

ye

[honest acorn]

I haven’t seen much of that yet but I’m on page 5 myself so I’ll probably start seeing it more

I like what I’ve heard

[stone bridge]

Apparently the Scythe has some sort of spool-up time that affects DPS

[honest acorn]

I think it’s also on the high end of the “light armor pen” range

Or it’s bugged or something

[cobalt patrol]

This is a werid bug

reinforcements arent working at all

[honest acorn]

If you ask me they’re all weird bugs 😤

[honest acorn]

There’s a few things which can lock out reinforcements

The jammers and running out of time and such

Wait a sec

It’s 5 reinforcement tickets per diver right?

[stone bridge]

yeag

[honest acorn]

Hahaha

Friend computer ass reinforcement system (I realize they’re not clones but that feels like a reference)

[stone bridge]

a 6 pack and nothing more!

[glad marsh]

<@&1206091872716595200> sorry for the additional ping, anyone wanna squad up?

[autumn plover]

https://www.deviantart.com/the-red-right-hand/art/Del-Diver-1024825547

now this is my kinda diver fanart

[stone bridge]

I can later, after lunch

[autumn plover]

also i know want shark teeth helmet as a cosmetic

[glad marsh]

lovely, I shall await thee

we're just gonna do some solo farming in the meantime

[crystal canopy]

ok so i have just started

i have no idea what to do now

i am going to fight the automatons

[honest acorn]

Nice spill some oil

[crystal canopy]

currently playing solo one question

do i actually have to link a PS account or not

[stone bridge]

nope

not at all

[crystal canopy]

awesome

i will ensure that i spread democracy

one man one vote

as i understand, the president has that vote

[limber pike]

How are we doing in the war?

[honest acorn]

It’s mixed

[daring monolith]

three days and change left on the defense objective, we're at 5/8 and have lost a lot of the defenses

bug front is going strong though

[honest acorn]

We’re getting clobbered in the defend missions because they’re hard as fuck

But also took some planets while it was happening

Slow but steady advantage for the bug front, which is not a false flag from the government

[high hamlet]

so far, i've only had one mission fail because my squad got overwhelmed by bots

damn bots, they be botting

[stone bridge]

i tried the scythe just before and was uh, terminally underwhelmed

wow it cannot kill anything fast

[honest acorn]

I have had pretty good experiences with it

Though it sucks at killing berserkers

It’s just so bad at em

But it gets devastators and normal bots and most bugs fine

[high hamlet]

i was planning on spending some medals on that marksman rifle, but i wondered if it was any useful. surprisingly wasn't a fan of the first shotgun.

[honest acorn]

It’s meh

I think it’s biggest issue is that the normal liberator is lowkey really good

So it’s kinda the same thing but can’t panic fire at close range

[stone bridge]

The Diligence(s) are unsatisfying to shoot and don't have the precision or firepower you'd really expect

[honest acorn]

I wish it had a deeper report

Though the AMR is goated

[crystal canopy]

ok i may be stupid

i dont understand how to escort people on the mission

i can kill bots fine

[stone bridge]

Yeah, the AMR is frustrating to me for different reasons but it has a really satisfying, deep boom

[high hamlet]

i've been finding the additional weapons so undercooked that i've stuck with the liberator

though i do like the machine pistol sidearm

[meager saffron]

the machine pistol sidearm is a strict buff

[crystal canopy]

is anyone free to squad with a newbie because i need help to understand what to do beyond killing

[honest acorn]

The real standouts are the breaker and the scorcher I think

[honest acorn]

I will be later tonight

Might be an hour or two

[stone bridge]

On the map there's a bunker door with a button next to it

I think there may be multiple

Hit that and it'll spawn 3 civvies

[daring monolith]

I could potentially, in an hour ish

[crystal canopy]

alright

ill try to fix my mic issues before then, theres a solid chance i wil be voiceless

[keen zinc]

I will arrive in half an hour

[unreal merlin]

I am upset. A bunch of random-joins did fine the whole mission, then at the end they all became absolute clowns and lost all my samples after airstriking me.

This is not appreciated because I specifically went into the mission for samples.

[crystal canopy]

i think i did pretty well

for a first mission

the only friendly fire was jumping on my own grenade

[daring monolith]

for a first mission that's not bad at all

56% is pretty much the average for accuracy across all matches I've been in (highest I've seen was 70%)

[glad marsh]

lovely job, new recruit!

(if you want a squad, we've got space for you if you wanted to join)

[crystal canopy]

i could use one, there still space?

[oblique lotus]

mash the buttons

that's it

[candid finch]

So one of my crewmates just said that the cyborgs from before have "100 years of rehabilitation in the mines of cyberstan"

[oblique lotus]

yup

[candid finch]

So uh... that might be the slaves the automatons mentioned

[oblique lotus]

the automatons ||are trying to rescue their cyborg progenitors||

[candid finch]

Very nice and kind

[honest acorn]

Cyberstan was the Cyborg homeworld in the first game

[candid finch]

they also just mentioned the terminids being on element 710 farms and Illuminate being "nothing but a memory"

[nocturne saffron]

Fun fact: Cyberstan is on the campaign map

Somewhere up in the top left

[honest acorn]

(Kepler Prime is the bug homeworld and Squ'bai Shrine is the Illuminate one)

[nocturne saffron]

Didn't find the other two when I looked

[honest acorn]

If its on the map I think Squ'bai shrine would have been renamed

[daring monolith]

terminids are being kept as livestock essentially (710 upside down is oil) bc they break down into fuel

and them spreading from world to world is Super Earth either failing to contain them on those worlds or purposefully spreading them to get more oil

[strange vine]

on one of the news segments you can find a line in the ticker that says "reports of illuminate sightings are traitorous propaganda" or something along those lines

[honest acorn]

There's something weird going on for sure

All the bug planets have dead/fossilized Hive Lord bodies

[strange vine]

the illegal broadcasts on bug planets talk about the terminid attacks being super earth backed or something

[daring monolith]

there's a voiceline from a ship crew member talking about how the dead bugs will 'fuel the war effort' as well

[candid finch]

I laugh and then get a little sad

I pray to all that is good in the world that Helldivers 3 is being a rebel

[oblique storm]

https://vxtwitter.com/mothballsva/status/1761837253792313412

[candid finch]

I used it to close a small hole

[high hamlet]

the starship trooper parallels are super funny to me because i think there was a horde shooter based on it that came out not too long ago?

[unreal merlin]

liberated...

[autumn plover]

ngl i like the amr

[candid finch]

same

[gritty sundial]

amr good

[candid finch]

And yeah there was actually a starship troopers game

[gritty sundial]

Simply pop the hulk twice

[stone bridge]

It's a good game too

[autumn plover]

well there still is

though recently its had performance issues oddly enough

and plays starship a bit more straight

its part of why i joined the gf in diving instead of trying to get her to grab starship with me

[honest acorn]

The AMR is really good vs bots and... ok vs bugs

I like the machine gun better against bugs

[unreal merlin]

Medium armor pen on the MG is awesome.

[honest acorn]

I wish we got the real AP stat though

[glacial light]

What's the tricks for chargers, I just reached like level 8 and considering my anti-tank options

[honest acorn]

Since "medium armor pen" is not always equal

[honest acorn]

I think RR or EAT is best at that level?

[candid finch]

Their legs can be shot

[oblique lotus]

EAT/recoilless to the leg and follow up with small arms

[honest acorn]

With the idea being to break leg armor and those shoot small arms at them

[candid finch]

there was a good charger video around somewhat recently

[glacial light]

Oh I didn't know that was an option

[daring monolith]

EAT is excellent for it

or recoilless at that level too

but yeah, one shot from either to the front leg and then magdump with your primary

[stone bridge]

You can also exploit a bug currently in the game where their animations desync their leg armour for a little bit

Some animations, anyway

[candid finch]

aww it's a bug?

[honest acorn]

I kinda doubt that'll work in a month but its very strong rn

[stone bridge]

The way it works is extremely unintuitive, I can't see it being anything but that

[autumn plover]

also i now have a cool robot arm body armor hooray

[honest acorn]

Explosives to the butt bulb also works pretty well but it takes a TON of damage to kill one without explosive weapons

[oblique lotus]

<@&1206091872716595200> looking for more for high diff

[honest acorn]

(Though I think a clean hit with a RR/EAT will break it and cause the charger to bleed out in ~10 seconds, though its a tricky shot)

[honest acorn]

I might be up for it once I finish tonights schoolwork

(Maybe up to an hour away though)

[oblique lotus]

got it, I"ll farm medals till then

[candid finch]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHKjUIfq85c

[crystal canopy]

new version of helldiving???

[honest acorn]

Helldivers 1 is leaking

[oblique lotus]

it is kinda funny/sad that spamming "kill bots" missions on defense is by far the highest payout in terms of req/XP/medals

19 medals for like ten minutes of gameplay

[honest acorn]

they call it "mortar grinding" on the official discord

[unreal merlin]

"guys stop blowing me up"
they actively run towards airstrike beacons

I don't know how to explain that it's a personal skill issue to just not run 40 meters into the place we're all throwing orbital strikes.

[upbeat vector]

I kinda hope they buff other methods instead of just getting rid of that one

[strange vine]

its real interesting how the automatons are pushing "northwards" towards cyberstan instead of towards super earth...

https://vxtwitter.com/Starcatplays/status/1761758925756493825

[unreal merlin]

[unreal merlin]

They're trying to retake Cyberstan to reactivate the ultra-gigabots.

From there they will march on Super Earth with an armada of Cyborg warships hidden since the first wars of liberation over one hundred years ago.

[graceful bluff]

has anyone found a way to farm mtx currency decently fast yet? Wondering if the deluxe edition is at all worth it for the battlepass

[strange vine]

the premium warbond is full of sidegrades at best
in terms of farming id suggest running a lower level mission just so you can hit all the points of interest

[oblique lotus]

it's not

[strange vine]

preferably one with 40 min missions

[oblique lotus]

it does get you Stratagem Hero, which is absolutely worth it

but honestly there isn't really a good way to farm super credits besides what skian said and doing relatively easy missions

you still want them to be decently hard so you get the full suite of spawns

but not so hard that you're skipping PoIs

[honest acorn]

I think 4s or whatever the first difficulty which has a big map is probably ideal

[graceful bluff]

actually, how much is it to buy enough mtx currency to get the battlepass

[honest acorn]

Easy to full clear and has I think the same density of POIs as higher

like 10bux

[graceful bluff]

ok yeah entirely not worth it then

the p90 seems utter shite, and the armors gaudy as shit

[oblique lotus]

the P90 is actually pretty good

[honest acorn]

From play reports I think roughly 1-2$ worth of mtx money per hour of play is normal

Which one is the P90?

[graceful bluff]

Knight

[oblique lotus]

knight

but yeah I wouldn't buy the pass with actual dollars

it outputs a lot of damage very fast which in a pinch is very nice

[graceful bluff]

Knight just having absurd recoil along with wasting so much ammo

[honest acorn]

Oh, the pass and super citizen are different

[oblique lotus]

it just runs into the issue that the breaker exists

[oblique lotus]

much more controllable in first person

and it is genuinely a lot of firepower

honestly it's not too bad in third person once you figure out that you have to pull down hard

[honest acorn]

I'm relatively confident the breaker is gonna get nerfed, or at least that the weapon balance landscape is gonna change a lot

[oblique lotus]

likewise

[honest acorn]

Though I think a lot of people are still working out the mechanics of weapons and a lot of the breaker's hype is from really simple first order approximations of weapon power

[oblique lotus]

also I personally really like the gaudy armor because I think it looks ridiculous

[honest acorn]

Though its obviously a very good gun

[fringe quiver]

wait wait

you can play in first person?

[oblique lotus]

press MMB

also yes

[honest acorn]

You can go into first person ADS at least

No first person sprint

It's kind of an aimer-down-sights mode

[rustic portal]

you can also change it in the settings to be triggered on tapping aim

[oblique lotus]

don't worry, if you bug the camera out enough you can play the entire game in first person until the camera decides it's had enough and sends itself to ~40m over the battlefield

[stone bridge]

I think weapons should be tuned up to meet the Breaker rather than the opposite, ngl

[rustic portal]

("Dynamic Aim Mode")

and it can selectively remember on a per-weapon or overall basis too

[honest acorn]

I think the breaker could maybe stand to lose a reserve mag but that's kinda it

[stone bridge]

A lot of primaries feel really quite rubbish atm

[oblique lotus]

yeah I think most primaries need substantial buffs rather than the breaker needing a nerf

[upbeat vector]

Which one is the breaker?

[honest acorn]

autoshotty on page 4 (iirc) of the free battlepass

[oblique lotus]

like on the one hand this armor is gaudy as shit

on the other hand it's gaudy as shit and I love it

[upbeat vector]

^

[oblique lotus]

plus it has what I consider to be a top tier armor passive because "50% chance to Not Die" is super useful

oh also the cape fucks

the gold is nice and shiny

[fringe quiver]

what's that coupon code for the game?

I lost it

[oblique lotus]

?

FEB17

[fringe quiver]

someone said there was a coupon code for helldivers 2 on steam or something

ahh yes ,ty

[oblique lotus]

it's on green man gaming

[graceful bluff]

there's a better deal than that

[oblique lotus]

oh?

[graceful bluff]

https://isthereanydeal.com/game/helldivers-2/info/

oh the 22% one ended

[honest acorn]

I quite like the liberator, scythe and breaker for primaries, though I've yet to try out the lib-p, the breaker variants, or the scorcher

The others feels like they need a little more

the DMR is... idk it just doesn't feel that much better than just burst firing the liberator to me

Punisher is good but the breaker I think overshadows it

Explosive liberator is weird and I can't decide

[stone bridge]

The explosive liberator would be neat if it the game told you what benefits it had besides "explosive" in exchange for a halved fire rate and 33% less ammo per mag

[jolly mortar]

the lib-p is solid, in my experience. the breaker still outpaces it but with decent firing control you can reliably put devs down.

it's pretty good at headshots, so if you can nail a dev's head reliably it genuinely performs pretty well.

also an extra three mags worth of ammo doesn't suck

[jolly mortar]

and I think this is why I was hesitant to grab it. couldn't tell what if any benefit the 'explosive' had that outweighed its tradeoffs.

[oblique lotus]

I still don't know what explosive actually does besides more? stagger on hit

[jolly mortar]

I've yet to use a gun with the tag so I'm genuinely clueless myself. that's what I assumed it must do.

though if I'm being honest I'd prefer some splash damage on impact

slower firing rate and less ammo per mag? alright, here's AOE to make the tradeoff worth it as long as you're good at making shots count

[strange vine]

nah people've ran the numbers and the breaker just has pure DPS over everything else

[glad marsh]

Hmmm

[strange vine]

its barely even a contest

[oblique storm]

I keep seeing this but I will say

Super Earth would wanna kill those fucking Dwarfs

so hard

[north fiber]

Yeah, Breaker is just disgustingly high DPS compared to every other option including the MGs

[honest acorn]

Yeah by just damage x ammo it is like 20k damage ahead

I think it’s less of a clear number 1 because it sucks beyond like 20 meters

[unreal merlin]

It is very hard to compete with a Breaker that gets mag dump'd.

[stone bridge]

It deals full damage to heavy tier weak spots

[honest acorn]

But it is the god king of short range and one of the only ways to stop 2+ Berserkers in a magazine

[stone bridge]

Like the Charger butt or a Hulk's head

[rich marlin]

Do I dare try to Helldive tonight

[oblique lotus]

servers were pretty solid over the weekend

[oblique storm]

The anti material rifle is not bad tbh

it's not GREAT

but it's not BAD

[honest acorn]

I think it’s a worthy sidegrade to the autocannon

Weaker but more precise and no backpack

[rich marlin]

Last night I got to play around with the guard dog drone and it was lifesaver when I wasn’t paying as close attention as I should of

[stone bridge]

I'd like the AMR way more if the way the zeroing was significantly less strict

[honest acorn]

A target rangefinder would be noice

Though I find that the AMR seems to work better at 100 meters pretty much all the time

[upbeat vector]

It would be very nice.

A workaround you can do though is tag enemies with Q, that tells you their distance from you

[stone bridge]

The Railgun or Autocannon I can just point and click with, the AMR I need to faff about with how high or low I'm aiming relative to enemy distance

[jolly mortar]

yeah, part of why I gravitate to the former. the railgun especially because the reload is so fast that as long as I'm pacing my shots right I'm putting out a whole lotta hurt

[honest acorn]

I think the autocannon has drop as well but it’s less precise in general so it’s easier to ignore

Railgun I think is a straight line though

[oblique storm]

Reason I like the anti-material is that it ALSO handles hordes at a decent pace

The MAIN downside

is the complete lack of a fucking reticule when you aren't ADSing

which I feel like is absolute shit-ass stupid

[honest acorn]

I think you can use an imposed reticule on PC

[stone bridge]

It's genuinely annoying

[honest acorn]

It doesn’t feel necessary I agree

It’s no halo sniper

[oblique storm]

If the railgun has one

why wouldn't the sniper

[stone bridge]

That's my thinking

Hell, even the Autocannon has one, even if its nigh unusable hipfiring

[eager pine]

Because the railgun only has a dot sight.

It can't zoom in at all.

[jolly mortar]

honestly kind of balances it, because if I could zoom in and be even more precise with my railgun shots that thing would be a menace

[rich marlin]

https://twitter.com/DoovadHohdan/status/1761673049688916476?t=E7lDHCDIwmojC1EbOPMhvA&s=19

Doovad ♦ Hohdan (@DoovadHohdan) on X

How else do you think they show off their strikes?
#HellDivers2 #b3d

🎙 @Zyzx
🎙 @Armand_Gman

Twitter · Feb 25, 2024, 8:42 AM

[strange vine]

Omg
https://ddinstagram.com/p/C3wy1IDtSYC/

[oblique storm]

WHAT

[honest acorn]

Honestly, knowing that a bad run might be you being Personally Victimized by Arrowhead is amazing

[daring monolith]

the animations are jank but goddamn that's cool

[burnt vapor]

Those poor SEAF troopers

[honest acorn]

That dropship also looks a lot more like the HD1 dropship

Which is neat

Ok less similar than my memory

[stone bridge]

<@&1206091872716595200> anyone up to dive in about ~5?

[meager saffron]

sure

lemme wrap up eating dinner

[stone bridge]

[oblique storm]

I can do like

a mission before it's pass-out time

[jolly mortar]

back pain has me out of commish atm but may be on later

[stone bridge]

sweet

im ready whenever

[eager pine]

Is this why a bot patrol spawned in directly on top of me once when I was away from the team?

[oblique storm]

i actually gotta pass out

sorry

@stone bridge

[stone bridge]

all good!

[rotund marten]

I can helldive shortly

[unkempt river]

<@&1206091872716595200> Managed Democracy Needs Your Aid!

[rotund marten]

T-5 minutes, just getting dressed

[jolly mortar]

have drank, will helldive

just have to actually turn the game on

[stone bridge]

will be around later

[unreal merlin]

Democracy waits for no pants.

[unkempt river]

I apparently need to reboot, be with y'all asap

[jolly mortar]

oop, take your time

ingame propaganda announcement about urine samples being due reminding me I need to go bathroom first

[unkempt river]

My file explorer should not be taking 80% of my 16gigs of ram :|

[jolly mortar]

wack

[unkempt river]

restart fixed it :)

[jolly mortar]

oh good

[barren iron]

https://twitter.com/DeltyThe73rd/status/1761218067173163428

delty (@DeltyThe73rd) on X

Loading another man’s weapon in Helldivers 2 is the ultimate form of glazing.😭😭😭

Twitter · Feb 24, 2024, 2:34 AM

[cobalt patrol]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/960204894466363472/1211156953951379466/image.png?ex=65ed2cd0&is=65dab7d0&hm=27c8d8d71d16f4c067a773869c6437f2f6d70e2ac37db061bbbe08a7d619f040&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=550&height=327

[jolly mortar]

oh floating tank corpse of the snowy tundra, what is thine wisdom

(for context we hit a tank so hard while it was being dropped from a ship that it got stuck in midair. it was like two eagle airstrikes onto an inert helbomb a foot behind the tank, thing never had a shot.)

[cobalt patrol]

https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/5943133124708379755/90C1BF4BCAB4B08E245FF3FC6F7661EE24B3EF4D/?imw=5000&imh=5000&ima=fit&impolicy=Letterbox&imcolor=%23000000&letterbox=false

The Zombie Penguin Was not the Imposter.

I bugged and fell out of a destroyer

[hexed steeple]

lmao