Helldivers 2: For Managed Democracy!

[stone bridge]

keep trying

or join a friend directly

[keen zinc]

me at all times really

[oblique lotus]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Helldivers/comments/1alz7kh/i_got_a_score_of_5m_on_the_stratagem_hero/

apparently the 999999 stratagem hero score is legit

[oblique storm]

already tapped outu

[stone bridge]

[strange vine]

https://www.rxddit.com/r/Helldivers/comments/1aoghw5/if_you_have_heavy_armor_protect_your_fellow/

[stone bridge]

@lethal dagger jump in the VC :0

[lethal dagger]

@oblique lotus are you level 23 in helldivers

[oblique lotus]

yes

[oblique storm]

GET DOWN MR PRESIDENT

[keen zinc]

god damn i love the autocannon

oh, you are making A Noise at me and are bigger than breadbox? say cheese

[rapid scaffold]

nooooo can't log into helldivers

[keen zinc]

the servers are totally overloaded

theyve been hitting 125k concurrent players on steam alone

they did not expect this many with their server infra

[honest acorn]

on the one hand good for them

on the other hand I better be able to log in soon...

[keen zinc]

Yeah I was hoping to play with pals after work but such is life

Perhaps tomorrow

Also I learned you can rocket jump off enemies with the autocannon if you're brave enough

Dive back, fire a liberty laden autocannon slug into the aforementioned freedom hater, and if you are patriotic enough, the blast will send you far from harms reach

With only mild blast related injuries

[oblique storm]

With the blast resistance on some heavy armors it's way easier

[keen zinc]

Hence

#1204832579287519292 message

[stone bridge]

<@&1206091872716595200> need 1 more!

[honest acorn]

I might be able to join

Booting up for the first time

[stone bridge]

[feral fable]

literally the #1 reason I want to get level 20

[kindred lintel]

we have new livers ready for doving

get out there and spread managed democracy

[stone bridge]

This game is so fucking good

We had a running firefight against a heavy Automaton base and it felt incredible

I do think that if everything clicks, bots are the more fun faction to fight compared to bugs

[azure rock]

I want this game so bad

but no time 😔

[glad marsh]

Very unfortunate

[azure rock]

Watching it is amazing though, and I'm so glad the camera doesn't seem to limiting like in the first game

[glad marsh]

I really ought to play with you PNET folks, you seem better off than my group that gets stuck fighting endless hordes for 10 minutes

Though

Is that a thing that everyone experiences often?

Or is it just a me problem

[honest acorn]

Camera gaming was a kind of cool part of the first game imo

Though I don't super miss it

I'm gonna have to switch to playstation for it though

[lethal dagger]

Gotta say @oblique lotus

I'm in the Philippines

[rotund marten]

I am now officially a helldiver

this is incredible

[lethal dagger]

And it felt fine to play with you somehow?

[rotund marten]

time to grind for tier 4 gear so I can get the awesome autoshottie that Briar has

Breaker 10/10

[honest acorn]

I'm pretty sold as well

[azure rock]

At least we can agree on not missing it too much, it just wasn't my type i guess.
also from what I've seen, fighting huge horde is intended, but I'm not sure on the 10 mins

wouldn't know though!

[honest acorn]

We were fighting the huge horde+heavies for I think 5-7 minutes

[oblique lotus]

it depernds

[honest acorn]

But it was very dynamic since we took and lost a bunker and wall like 4 times

[oblique lotus]

esp at higher difficulties you need to know how to disengage rather than just chewing through the entire horde

[honest acorn]

I wanna try out my HD1 favorites and see what's here

[oblique lotus]

largely because we don't currently have access to "kill the entire horde" weapons like the rumbler/shredder/missile barrage/etc

[honest acorn]

Mostly the laser gun and RPG

[oblique lotus]

I suspect I'm going to default to the laser rifle just because it's a primary that can't run out of ammo

[honest acorn]

My "team role" in HD1 was artillerist but I don't think that's super viable in 2 because of the real long CDs comparatively

[glad marsh]

Yeah I've figured that much out
When you've got 5 chargers on you it's rather hard to deal with lol

[honest acorn]

Though that mission was 50% longer CDs

[oblique lotus]

that being said against bugs I think you can make a case that 4 railguns will carry you through basically every mission

[glad marsh]

For sure, railguns are effective against everything seems like

[honest acorn]

Illuminate eventually and its gonne be nuts haha

[glad marsh]

Oh it better be

But by then we'll have at least the EXO-44 back

So there is that

[honest acorn]

I remember those fuckin sniper guys attacking from like 1 mile away the whole mission

[stone bridge]

I think for bugs, my initial impression is that the optimal setup looks like 2 Railguns, 1 autocannon, a flex slot, and everyone running 110m rockets or similar stratagems

Because ||bile titans|| are crazy ammo sinks

And you really want the precision fuck-you options on hand to handle them

[oblique lotus]

8 railgun shots to the head will drop them

which is a lot but it's also 1/4 of a resupply

orbital railcannon will oneshot I think

[barren iron]

orbital railcannon does not 1shot

what it does do

is take out all of it's armor

[oblique lotus]

ah

it will reliably oneshot chargers though

[barren iron]

so you drop a railcannon+110mm rocket pods

and it looks awesome

[oblique lotus]

oooh

I'll have to try that

[barren iron]

idk if it's all the armor but it's atleast 1 side of the armor

and it might not matter if it actually hits the side with the armor

[barren iron]

we wont be getting the illuminate back afaik

my bets are on human rebels

[rotund marten]

I am a real autoshotgun fan, can't wait to try the autocannon

autoshottie and autocannon might in fact be it

[honest acorn]

Oh was there a statement on it?

[rotund marten]

Just Go Full Auto

[barren iron]

I don't want to say there was but I have vague memories of seeing something about the Illuminate actually being gone (and not in a "yes we, super earth, totally destroyed them completely" way)

also they talk about rebels a lot

on the tv screen

[oblique lotus]

yeah

[barren iron]

also about as much as the automatons and terminids

[oblique lotus]

they've apparently been working 12 hour days since launch too

[barren iron]

yeah

[honest acorn]

If someone can disappear from Super Earth's awareness Freedom Radius its probably them

[oblique lotus]

illuminates have been nonspecifically subjugated

[barren iron]

ah ic

[honest acorn]

Are automatons narratively different from the HD1 Cyborgs?

[barren iron]

afaik they are the cyborgs

[stone bridge]

Cooler name tho

[oblique lotus]

they've got the same symbol as the cyborgs but less meat

presumably they're the cyborgs post uploading or whatever

[barren iron]

yeah

[honest acorn]

The HD2 ones seem more terminator and less communist so I wasn't sure

[oblique lotus]

I mean the cyborgs were pretty terminator

[barren iron]

human rebels would be so cool when you look and see the mission objective is like "hunt down rogue helldiver"

enemy strategems 😭

[honest acorn]

Less silver skulls and such

[rotund marten]

I tried another mission

[honest acorn]

Though a lot of that is just graphic design changing

[rotund marten]

turns out the bots with the red diagonal shoulder struts have the flares

one called a bunch of drops right on top of us

so shoot those first

[oblique lotus]

ah

[honest acorn]

Oh they kept that sweet

[strange vine]

i really want an in-game encylopedia

also a firing range

[stone bridge]

Ooohhh

Good spot, Misc

[rotund marten]

I thought that meant "jump pack" but I think those have proper red glowing ovals around their heads

not just the shoulderpads

[barren iron]

Im in the middle of a suicide mission operation 💀 I forgor

[feral fable]

this makes the most sense to me, the game is supposedly 100 years after the first. That gives the cyborgs a lot of time to evolve as a faction into the automatons

[burnt vapor]

Yeah I miss the one we had in the first game

[stone bridge]

@rotund marten if you're still alive, wanna squad up?

[rotund marten]

@stone bridge sure, let me just get more tea since it's an all nighter here

[stone bridge]

sweet

[vestal trail]

So just for further clarity, I have seen Double Sword Bois do a flare too, so I think it's just any human-scale Automaton that can flare, in my experience

[barren iron]

you two mind if I join you?

wont be joining vc

@rotund marten@stone bridge

well

I might be able to

[stone bridge]

sure!

[glad marsh]

got room for one more mayhaps?
I don't mind waiting

[idle hollow]

https://fxtwitter.com/berdyaboi/status/1756774474530066800

[stone bridge]

sure do!

[glad marsh]

lovely

[supple siren]

I don't know if diving off a Little Too High Up will ever stop being funny

[burnt vapor]

Sometimes jumping off a 10m cliff to escape a hulk is the correct option
And sometimes there are contact mines at the foot of the cliff

[lethal dagger]

some other time, everyone

[glad marsh]

Ggs folks, I'll uh
Be more careful with cluster munitions next time lol

[copper crest]

https://vxtwitter.com/totallynicefox/status/1756888150247641345

[kindred lintel]

I've tried the fire breaker. I like it. Still need to try the original braker to get a grasp of the differences, but pumping out a few rounds into a crowd of grunts spreads the fire to all of them and they go down easily

[keen zinc]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Helldivers/s/sIwhB0vtWU

[kindred lintel]

Heavy armor with extra armor??

Need

[supple siren]

chonky

They really threw a dart right between Space Marine and Star Wars for the aesthetic of these armors

( not 40k marines, i guess, that is next level chonk )

[keen zinc]

Light armor with blast resistance

Yes please

[azure pewter]

beeg boy

[keen zinc]

On one hand I'm sad I have work week

But at the same time at least it means I'm not suffering the server troubles

Hopefully will be fixed before my weekend

So I can spread democracy

[azure pewter]

i just hopped on at work to grab beeg fella armor and now imma just shitpost in here

[keen zinc]

Lmao

Commitment

I'm gonna get that light armor with the blast resist

[azure pewter]

eh i jsut dont have anything better to do

[honest loom]

How does the HD2 armor system work? Is it not just cosmetic?

[azure pewter]

body armor has minor stats and a lil perk

lets me cosplay kosmosoldat

[honest loom]

Yeah what's funny about sci fi armor is the bigger it gets people still gotta articulate in it so it goes full diver suit

[oblique storm]

Armor has 3 stats and 1 perk

Helmets are cosmetic

[honest loom]

How meaningful are the stats?

[azure pewter]

other than the light/medium/heavy distinctions its pretty small

[oblique storm]

Ye

It's mainly about trading mobility for protection

[keen zinc]

#1204832579287519292 message

[hallow gorge]

Does heavy armor let you survive a charger bite?

[keen zinc]

If you have higher armor you can sometimes barely survive something that would kill a light armored boy

[keen zinc]

I think Heavy armor just barely raises you above most one shot kills but idk about charger bites

[true smelt]

Light armor I've found is much much better for me. Especially with the stamina booster equipped

[keen zinc]

Yeah I'm gonna switch to the new super store light armor

Try out fast moving AT trooper

[hallow gorge]

Yeah light armor seems like it's better. Maybe heavy is better against automatons?

[keen zinc]

Autocannon or recoilless

[keen zinc]

Yeah, bugs you can evade, bots have explosives and bullets

[keen zinc]

https://www.rxddit.com/r/Helldivers/s/OdGLz2WOEi

[quick crown]

Been fighting only bugs until like last night

WOW its a fucking breath of fresh air fighting bots

Not that the bugs are bad

Its just nice that its finally like, OH crouching and using cover is a great idea here!

And the AMR is a fucking KING of a weapon here too

I feel like the way i was playing vs bugs is way more valid against the bots which makes me feel way more confident in my skills because DAMN was I getting ripped to shreds life wise vs the bugs

[supple siren]

Yeaah it's a real different experience, s'fun. Even just opening up new planets is like !!!

Also; at least the bugs don't launch rockets

[quick crown]

The first time i landed on the jungle planets and saw red lasers being shot at me through the trees I was like, DAMN this is some good feeling starwars like shit

Yeah but at least the robots don't spit acid at me

I die to spewers way more than any other bug (Except maybe hunters

[merry cosmos]

My ship name is power of steel

[hallow gorge]

Fist of Family Values gang

[red steeple]

Triumph of Conviviality here because I was raised to kill them with kindness 😌

[quick crown]

Princess of Pride

[cobalt wing]

THE FIST OF DEMOCACY🦅

[true smelt]

i did Sword of Midnight

[supple siren]

The Sword of Family Values

[azure pewter]

Judge of judgement here

[kindred lintel]

Ranger of Starlight

[keen zinc]

The SES Emperor of Democracy

Formerly the Ombudsman of Conviviality

[merry cosmos]

The kind of contradictory name super earth welcomes

[cobalt wing]

https://twitter.com/totallynicefox/status/1756888150247641345?t=WEpfmHTWTeZ3Q0jCeMRMEQ&s=19

Fawkes 🦊🔪 (@totallynicefox) on X

helldivers 2 has been a great time

Twitter · Feb 12, 2024, 3:49 AM

[merry cosmos]

Super earth special forces

[supple siren]

Does anyone know how much extra padded adds to armor? Numbers seem the same but I figure there's invisible bonus

just idk if it's worth 400 supercreds

[merry cosmos]

I thought it looked cool and thats all that matters to me

[keen zinc]

It's just like the stimulations

[oblique storm]

I learned how to upgrade my strategems

[merry cosmos]

Treadmill

[rotund marten]

would anyone like to manage democracy

[lethal dagger]

had a great time with some randoms

anti tank duos are so much fun goddamn

[naive dragon]

I just crashed post-game and I hope I still have my points :<

[stone bridge]

I'm still waking up but I may be available if I can drag myself out of bed, and we might have Eld joining us

[lethal dagger]

eagle airstrike and eagle cluster bomb feel really good to use

got 25 kills with one cluster bomb stratagem for the achievement

[naive dragon]

The urge to have more mine deployers

[lethal dagger]

how good are those?

[naive dragon]

Funny

I have more accidentall blue-on-blue with them than anything but they also mop up infantry very good

[stone bridge]

The mine deployers have the same caveat as the mortar turret, in that you need to tell your team you're placing them or they only exist as reinforcement drain

[naive dragon]

Alternatively, you tell them and then they walk into it anyway

[stone bridge]

At that point you're absolved of responsibility at least

[naive dragon]

It is very funny

One time a squad of my friends walked into a bug base, realized it was dense, we all threw mines in and then realized not only did we all have the same braincell but we also had to go in there to do the mission

[stone bridge]

Lmao

[naive dragon]

I don't know if you've ever been stupid but I sure am

[stone bridge]

All the time

[lethal dagger]

god that's good

[stone bridge]

I am not immune to silly call-in decisions

[lethal dagger]

is there a difference between the machinegun sentry and the chaingun sentry

*gatling

[stone bridge]

The Gatling has enormous DPS and vanishingly small uptime

It hews through its ammo supply in about 15 seconds of continuous fire

[lethal dagger]

ah

so if you want something that supports you for longer the machinegun is better

[stone bridge]

It'll kill everything up to medium sized stuff well dead though

[rotund marten]

Grenade launcher is pretty fun but running it with the EAT is a bit of a pain because you have to go pick it up again post-charger

I think I want something like eagle rockets instead of EAT, once I unlock them

[stone bridge]

Yeah, though the DPS difference is pretty stark

I think the Mortar Turret is MVP for fire support but you have to be supremely careful with it

Its an FF machine if you don't warn people it exists

[rotund marten]

the grenade launcher and basic shotgun have been a very good combo for bugs

two shells clears all the standard sized ones so you can mop up the chaff easily

[lethal dagger]

i've been using recoilless + autoshotty for bug missions

[stone bridge]

If you do, it has a deep ammo pool, great damage and the ability to hit at long range out of LoS

[rotund marten]

don't have either of those yet but I am getting my EAT/shotgun charger kills down

[lethal dagger]

most efficient way to deal with chargers that i've seen is to shoot one of their forelegs with a rocket then blast it with your primary

[rotund marten]

yeah, that's been the play

even when you miss the leg you usually open up the side

[lethal dagger]

how does it acquire targets?

does it just know or

[stone bridge]

Magic

Yeah it just auto targets stuff

No need to paint baddies or anything

Its particularly nice against automatons, who love their static defences

[naive dragon]

me farming trivials to get "kill x enemies" missions in

[stone bridge]

@rotund marten I'm gonna throw some brekky on and be there inside 15

[rotund marten]

need to democratize another couple of dozen bots so I will try the DMR on them

[lethal dagger]

have you tried the orbital gas bomb

[rotund marten]

I think DMR/grenade launcher might be pretty good there if someone else has AT

currently stockpiling cash to get rocket strike, recoilless and autocannon when they unlock

[stone bridge]

The autocannon is viciously joyful to use

I do appreciate how every weapon has a role

I thought the AMR was just not very good, but apparently it rinses the hell out of bots

[rotund marten]

I'm really thinking that grenade launcher or recoilless, shotgun of some kind and a rack of eagle strats might be the first Proper Build I go for

you can get a lot of really fast strikes before you send it back

[stone bridge]

Yeah the Eagle strikes are really nice for having consistent firepower

[supple siren]

When Eagle strike perfectly lines up for a medium bug nest, artful, momentous, game good

[quick crown]

God i love that the EAT is doing the same thing i used it for in the first game

Call in grab it and shoot it at objective

Its really satisfying to grab it fire and drop x2 and then keep moving on

[glad marsh]

<@&1206091872716595200> anyone looking to spread some democracy?

oh it seems there's already a lobby up

[hallow hornet]

There's an update up btw

we all bit by bit got booted out of the game lmao

[glad marsh]

ah..

yeah I see it now

I've gotta wait 30 minutes for it to download ;-;

[strange vine]

https://streamable.com/x3z45x

[golden ledge]

https://steamcommunity.com/games/553850/announcements/detail/4022346438970380904?snr=2___

Better link

An increased reward event is planned

[glad marsh]

Eyy

We love those

[stone bridge]

@shrewd tiger 48769801

[oblique storm]

This is the best

[glad marsh]

popping a request you way as well to ease things later

[naive dragon]

Citizenposting because I enjoy this fit

[glad marsh]

is good!

we like the bionic bits

[naive dragon]

I have a habit of blowing myself up so it seems fitting

[kindred lintel]

I have a habit of blowing others up so it seems fitting

[naive dragon]

My fellow demolitions enjoyer

[azure pewter]

Grumble grumble mortar turret grumble

[kindred lintel]

grumble grumble others don't know what danger close means grumble grumble

[glad marsh]

hmm
let's see if I can get another lobby going
<@&1206091872716595200>

[naive dragon]

I have chosen my coordinates as the location for this carpet bombing

[azure pewter]

It’s not danger close, it’s just wildly unpredictable

[kindred lintel]

3 get off of your 16hr shift and play dover divers

[azure pewter]

Ok gimme uhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

8 hours

[keen zinc]

I'll be off work and available in uhhh 5 hours

[vestal trail]

Since I missed the Shipposting earler, SES Fist of Science

[barren iron]

SES Soul of Democracy

[stone bridge]

SES Colossus of Dawn

[barren iron]

mine used to be SES Harbinger of Conquest

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzfwtVswxK8

[quick crown]

It's so crazy the amount of polish this game got

[supple siren]

like, orbitals having different angles depending on map/ship location. c'mon. C'MON GAME. That rules.

[strange vine]

you can tell theyve worked on this for like 7 years

and are passsionate about it

[cobalt wing]

i was so scared when this was shown as a 3d over the shoulder

[stone bridge]

I was excited

It was like RoR 1 vs 2

Instantly knew it'd be good

also I'm starting to think flamer might be the way to go in bug missions, at least against the really intense hordes

there's just. so many.

[quick crown]

My group has been itching for good coop games like this and DRG that dont skip out on aspects

Like back for blood was a disappointment because it was shaping up to have cool stuff

[strange vine]

https://rxddit.com/r/Helldivers/comments/1ap26cx/eagle_pilot_mightve_had_too_much_to_drink_today/

[quick crown]

https://tenor.com/view/inugami-korone-yandere-stare-zoom-gif-22336019

The solid like second it happened lmao

I'm a huge fan of this getup

Also it gives me medium armor with recoil dampening

[keen zinc]

Snowtrooper

I like it but it always gets really blackened and dirty randomly I've found

Dive to a crawl once and suddenly your helmet looks like you dipped it in tar

[quick crown]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/763907250133139480/1206744903972028476/dfpzz7ioz4ic1.webp?ex=65dd1fc5&is=65caaac5&hm=2b06f364aeb09bd6b1d83bfe0dc7a150c5a34396c5cd8fa700ea77e250d4ca72&=&format=webp

[copper crest]

@golden ledge

[strange vine]

have to wait til level 20 to get railgun feels bad :<

[naive dragon]

when I tell you I got to the exfil site at The Last Second

[feral fable]

I got the railcannon, can confirm it is great for "See that tank? I don't wanna"

also the personal shield generator is amazing at keeping you alive

[rotund marten]

I have really been enjoying Recoilless Rifle gaming against the bugs

less so against the boops

[naive dragon]

I do not know why those giant yellow spit bugs are appearing so much

But I am not thrilled

[oblique storm]

grenade launcher is a good counter to them

[azure pewter]

Autocannon

[naive dragon]

I don't have one 😔

[azure pewter]

[naive dragon]

It doesn't help that I usually operate solo either

I'm going back to malevelon creek lol

[honest acorn]

The eagle run also takes them out pretty handily

[rotund marten]

grenade launcher is very fun but juggling it with EAT is a pain and without that I have no convenient charger killer

looking forward to the rocket pod strike at L10 so I can be slightly safer with the horde mincer 9000

[stone bridge]

The horde mincer strike is actually the cluster bombs

They really thin crowds ime

[rotund marten]

the rockets I'm getting for anti-large, the GL is the horde mincer 9000

[stone bridge]

oooh okay

[rotund marten]

but eats the slot I would normally be putting AT in

[stone bridge]

Yeah the GL seems like Autocannon Lite

But a lot better against infantry

[rotund marten]

I am really enjoying autoshotgun/recoilless/grenadier armour

six nades makes up for the lack of AOE strikes well

[stone bridge]

Impacts will make that even better

[rotund marten]

I've enjoyed being able to chuck fuses at my feet and run past them

and cooking nades to kill the little scout walkers

also I only just realised that one reinforce will drop in all the dead people and you don't need to find time to spam it

[glad marsh]

Mhm!
I don't think it was like that in the first game
But I like it better this way

[kindred lintel]

Interview with the CEO, they stated that they were disappointed in the lack of weapon customization

[stone bridge]

oh?

[stone bridge]

<@&1206091872716595200> where we divin

[red steeple]

SSC 👀

[cobalt wing]

to hell

[stone bridge]

hell yeah

be there soon

[honest acorn]

I might be on in a bit

[glad marsh]

Will as well!
Gimme a couple mins

[stone bridge]

[glad marsh]

I would still like to reiterate that playing helldivers 2 occasionally switches my keyboard to french

[cobalt wing]

the pre programmed anti-liberty measures

[golden ledge]

Probably because of dive being on alt

[stone bridge]

I've rebound a bunch of keys but I think the most important one to do is Stratagems to arrow keys

I haven't tested it yet but the game loves eating my inputs randomly, especially entering strats

And apparently putting them in arrow keys can fix that

[strange vine]

It also means you can move while inputting stratagems

Which helps when youre under pressure

Also i rebound dive to space bar

Feels better

[barren iron]

I will never rebind my strats to arrowkeys

Too much muscle memory

I can input a reinforce stratagem from the point of pressing alt to dive to when I hit the ground

[stone bridge]

I don't have a choice when it literally doesn't register key presses

[barren iron]

Yeah thats very fair

Luckily you can move while inputting now

And sprint, even

[stone bridge]

so apparently,

[merry cosmos]

Anyone wanna join me in spreading managed democracy?

[cobalt wing]

that explains why the nade launcher fucks up the ticks

[oblique lotus]

Am I the only person who likes the scythe?

[cobalt wing]

i will tell you once i get there

but i YEARN

[oblique lotus]

It's not as killy as the knight but unlike the knight I'm not out of ammo every three minutes

[merry cosmos]

Its kinda a dull wepon imo

[merry cosmos]

(8336-9068)

[stone bridge]

We actually have a role you can join/ping if you want some games

Speaking of, <@&1206091872716595200> anyone about for a couple?

[quartz cloak]

o/

I'm onboard

[stone bridge]

all the randoms I just had DC'd, tragically, so good timing

@quartz cloak in activity 1

[feral fable]

is this an OCE game?

[stone bridge]

yeah!

[feral fable]

actually, I'm just gonna finish this operation first

then I I'll join

one more mission

[stone bridge]

How long? :0

[hallow hornet]

Do you press alt and shift at the same time ?

That’s what does it for me

[feral fable]

I just finished, that took way longer than I thought

you still going?

[stone bridge]

nearly done!

[merry cosmos]

How does one obtain it

[rotund marten]

currently at 2/4 for helldiving if anyone else is around

[stone bridge]

I'd keep playing but my frail mortal shell needs sleep

It is unbelievable how fun the game is, though

[quick crown]

whats OCE?

[feral fable]

Oceanic

[short rune]

The game got me really hooked now

Now it just needs them mechs to be added

[rotund marten]

autocannon obtained and tested

man this thing is cracked

blew up a whole bot base, factories and all, from the far side of the valley

[short rune]

Is really good. Better than the Recoilless Rifle in my humble opinion

[rotund marten]

then killed the hulk they sent in and still had 2/3 of my ammo left

Recoilless Rifle is only worth if you have someone in voice to be your loader

AC doesn't need one and kills nearly as much stuff

plus it has way more ammo and is far more versatile

[short rune]

If you get to call one.

Automation front is full of jammers.

[keen zinc]

https://youtu.be/cRmES6IJk_o?si=3tBlbqSVQttbweOd

[short rune]

I prefer fortunate son for Malevelon Creek

[keen zinc]

Nah. Recoilless can shoot down bot dropships and peel armor off chargers. It reloads slower sure, but it's very good to have one on the squad

My group was doing one mg, one autocannon, one recoilless

[short rune]

So far AMR has worked really well for me to hunt down tanks and hulks.

[keen zinc]

Against bugs, you really want a recoilless against groups of chargers just to core their armor

We used MechWarrior terms

"left leg is cored"

[rotund marten]

I tried shooting down the dropships for a while but the payload seems to survive mostly intact

[keen zinc]

Shoot one of the engines, it'll drop out of the sky and kill it's passengers

[rotund marten]

that is in fact what I was doing

seemed to get about half the basic infantry

[short rune]

The engines in the back?

[rotund marten]

any of the four seems to work

recoilless is great with a loader for bugs, though

[short rune]

What is their armour rating?

[rotund marten]

blam blam blam titan down

[keen zinc]

Were you shooting them in motion or when they stopped to drop?

Recoilless benefits from a loader more than autocannon but it isn't strictly necessary

[rotund marten]

usually stationary because I'm reluctant to take my one shot against a moving target at quite some distance

it's functional without a loader but I'd rather just have the autocannon or EAT

had some fun swapping the autocannon and RR backpacks and loading for each other, though

[keen zinc]

When solo sure, but one in a squad is really nice

Autocannons are always good, but a recoilless is a hard one per squad for higher level bug missions

Imo

Chargers are far too tanky without being able to peel them reliably

[rotund marten]

current setup is recoilless rifle, laser drone, grenadier armour for six nades

and then I hand the RR backpack to a teammate

works very nicely

or leave the drone at home and take their backpack if they have the AC

grenade launcher/ammo backpack is also kinda fun, though

[supple siren]

I need to teach the Laser Rover how to stop shooting my friends

It has a hunger for my main partner

[rotund marten]

I have considered swapping it for the energy shield when I hit 20

since I want to see if that covers your loader when in the weapons team stance

[supple siren]

:|a curious, hope so

love the drone + the scythe though

no swarmers survive

[keen zinc]

Wish the lasers had better medium armor pen

Especially the cannon

It could use a buff

[supple siren]

The cannon they show killing an armored guy in the preview video

it seems almost like an oversight that it struggles

[keen zinc]

Yeah especially since the orbital laser is an anything killer

The cannon feels like it's got a decimal misplaced somewhere

[supple siren]

also the heavy laser rifle sounds like you opened a portal to the sun

so it should kill things

[rotund marten]

I am addicted to the grenade launcher against bugs

It just slaughters the hordes and it's explosive type so it kills the spitters as well

Only issue is that I don't have the strat slots for all the HAT kit I need to fill the no AC/RR gap

[supple siren]

it pops chargers too if you can get 'em in the squishybit

[rotund marten]

and I'm not 20 so I can't equip the railcannon

Might try upgrading the hangar ASAP and going for the 500lb bomb and rocket pods

[supple siren]

i haven't seen much about the rocket pods, my eagle might be a bit too overladen regardless

hard having everything tied to one rearm

and hard to give up clusters and the bombing run

[coral linden]

just picked the game up

[short rune]

500 kg bomb and napalm do the trick

[coral linden]

this is the kinda game i’m terrified to play matchmade so i might work my way into games here if yall ever organise any

[rotund marten]

I have a grudge against the cluster bombs because they kill me more often than the bugs do, so I haven't unlocked them yet

I think going 2-3 eagle strats is a good idea once you get the hangar levelled

so many bombs

[short rune]

Cluster seem weird. They don't even damage structures.

[gusty wave]

Disappointed by the rocket pods, they seem to miss a bunch and even when they do hit they don’t do nearly enough damage

500kg and cluster bombs are the eagle standouts imo

[short rune]

I feel like the classic bomb airstrike works better

[supple siren]

Cluster is for clearing out 50 smaller bugs

and you get four of 'em per reload

and a 7 second cd

[gusty wave]

I like the classic air strike too, actually kills chargers (unlike rocket pods)

[supple siren]

Precision Strike is honestly hard not to bring

it's so handy

[keen zinc]

Clusters are amazing

[red steeple]

make sure to pick up the role when people ping to see who's around to play!

[keen zinc]

You get loads of clusters and they sweep nonheavies off the battlefield

[short rune]

But yeah, otherwise deploy 500 kg or 110 mm. Both do their job fine

[supple siren]

I can't get 110mm to hit anything

[short rune]

500 kg when you want to make sure a hive of military base ceases to exist.

[supple siren]

the other bombardments work out but the smaller one feels off

[short rune]

You need to make sure the marker sticks to targets

[supple siren]

OHhh the pods are also 110, right, i meant the orbital

[keen zinc]

Has anyone ever found the orbital artillery bombards to be useful? The 120mm and 380mm?

I've never found them very good

[supple siren]

380 can do some business

[keen zinc]

They're very imprecise and slow

[supple siren]

but Walking Bombardment seems like

[short rune]

Default orbital strike seems far better

[supple siren]

a more accurate version

[keen zinc]

Yeah the 120mm is just... Bad?

It never hits around the beacon and fires one shell every month

[supple siren]

Friend uses a walking bomb to just kind of get rid of medium/heavy bases

[short rune]

I imagine they are all just different flavours of crowd control weapons

[supple siren]

Minefields only seem to kill players

which makes sense with them being anti-personnel

[short rune]

Orbitals are also subject to firing angles

Which I dont like.

[keen zinc]

My friends don't let me use airstrikes anymore

Which sucks because I was upgrading them with my samplesn

[short rune]

Mine banned me from using electric arch weapons.

While they keep teamkilling me with their own incompetence

[supple siren]

don't letcha self be bullied

[keen zinc]

Apparently the giant glowing beam with the HUD element telling you what it is and when it is going to be there isn't enough to stop people walking into it

[rotund marten]

I really like the basic Eagle strafe honestly

[supple siren]

teamkilling is basically on the box for this game

[short rune]

I always get bullied as I'm the marksman. Lol

[rotund marten]

it's easy to aim, reliable and perfectly safe to drop almost right on top of yourself

[short rune]

Why do you have so few kills lmaoxd you are so useless

[keen zinc]

I don't understand how people can't see the stratagem call-in markers

[supple siren]

THere's markers! There's voice lines!

Only like the Mortar can be sneaky

[rotund marten]

my grenade launcher build doesn't really need strafe or cluster bombs because the GL just evaporates hordes, so I think I go GL, team ammo backpack, rocket pods, 500kg

[keen zinc]

I say "calling in an airstrike" and throw it into an enemy nest. They decide to walk right up to the nest and get blown up

I'm the bad guy

[short rune]

Yeah that happens too with my napalm

And they keep refusing to jump down so they stop burning

[keen zinc]

It has a GLOWING BEAM showing that it's coming!

[supple siren]

if the ammo pack did grenades i'd be way more into it, I still like it, but weh

[rotund marten]

people are frequently busy with the whole bug situation and people keep throwing them on my head so the beam is behind me

[keen zinc]

Speaking of mortar turrets

[oblique storm]

You don't get to fucking talk about this >:v

[keen zinc]

Hi Voy

[short rune]

Whenever I see someone placing mortars I secretly destroy them with my AMR

[keen zinc]

I threw ONE airstrike short and it landed at you

The rest I refuse to accept responsibility for

[oblique storm]

YOU BLEW ME UP 6 TIMES

[supple siren]

There's more than six lives!

[keen zinc]

LEARN TO READ

[short rune]

Mortars are just teamkill weapons

[supple siren]

Mortars are for Robots

bugs just draw the fire directly to your body

[keen zinc]

ITS A GLOWING BEAM SHOWING WHAT IS COMING AND WHERE NOT TO BE

[oblique storm]

LEARN TO ADJUST TO TURRET SIGHTLINES MR ARMY MAN

[short rune]

Don't use them either way. It will get your frontliners killed

[oblique storm]

ITS GLOWING TRACER BULLETS

[coral linden]

you want to talk about my flaws? what about yours? you killed three helldivers

[keen zinc]

Voys turrets love to randomly switch targets and drag a steam of lead across my head

[supple siren]

Anyone else have that moment of 'What does Scrambled Stratagems mean' and then instantly explode

[short rune]

I keep ending up in ravines when I use my jump-pack.

[short rune]

Automatons have jamming posts

[rotund marten]

my grenade launcher build is great and well-rounded, but it suffers from the fact I really like the orange grenadier armour and having an extra two nades really doesn't get you much

[short rune]

You need to get rid of them first

[keen zinc]

Complaining about 6 airstrike fratricide events when using 3 SENTRY TURRETS

[rotund marten]

when you have dozens upon dozens in your support slot

[supple siren]

Nono, there's mission modifiers. One of them randomizes what output your Stratagem Codes give

[rotund marten]

are the smokes any good?

[short rune]

Oh

[rotund marten]

could really use some support grenades to diversify a bit

[keen zinc]

Maybe against bots

[short rune]

I imagine they are amazing for robots

[supple siren]

And for god sake, let grenade pickups restore 3/6 instead of just 2

[short rune]

Their aiming gets really bad

[supple siren]

I've been loving immolation grenades but i don't actually know how impactful they've been

[keen zinc]

My go-to stratagems are orbital gatling, eagle airstrike, and autocannon

Don't really have a fourth I like

I'm saving for autocannon sentry

Next level

It seems good

[short rune]

Napalm seems to be really good against armoured targets. It ignores armour apparently

[supple siren]

I'm going for that Shield Dome

[keen zinc]

Yeah it sucks against swarms tho

Which is funny

[short rune]

I wish the incendiary grenade was in the normal pass.

[keen zinc]

I tried out impact grenades yesterday

[supple siren]

did you blow yourself up

[short rune]

They are uh...

[keen zinc]

My advice: don't

[supple siren]

They work Really well

unless anything's nearby

[rotund marten]

I'm not sure how good the grenade launcher is against armour

[short rune]

They seem to have a very low payload

[rotund marten]

but it seems to mess up the bot ATSTs quite well

[keen zinc]

They work really well except you cannot grenade bug holes

You die

[supple siren]

You can! It just sucks to do

Some angles gotta be impossible though

[rotund marten]

oh yeah, that's the other upside of the GL

[keen zinc]

Impact grenades are just a convenient way to get on the wall of martyrs

[rotund marten]

you can just click once on each bug hole and it evaporates

[keen zinc]

Autocannon too

[supple siren]

Autocannon breaks bug holes? weird

[keen zinc]

Yeah

It does it all babie

[short rune]

I had no idea bug holes had an armour rating.

I thought they only die to explosions

[keen zinc]

Autocannon shells have small explosives

This is why you can rocket jump with it

And die

[short rune]

That might explain why I get teamkilled with them when I camp against enemies

[supple siren]

it still makes me insane this game had like a 60% rating on steam because server issues

it's climbing now but god, folks are too reactionary

[short rune]

It had constant crashes first day and people thought the progression system was a limited battlepass

[keen zinc]

Gamers

[short rune]

For real

But now when I'm playing it... as long they don't screw up their current marketing system in the name of corporate greed this game could be one of the best I ever played

Do you folks also get team-killed as often?

[gusty wave]

Impacts one-shot spitters

[short rune]

I mean like more often than you manage to accidentally kill someone

[gusty wave]

Real nice on higher difficulties

[keen zinc]

No but we do like to melee each other

It's funny

[short rune]

Oh well, I sometimes headshot people when they shit-talk about my aiming.

[supple siren]

Arc Thrower likes to really stretch to the side and snipe my friends

[short rune]

I was banned from using Arc thrower

[supple siren]

but it's coole and goode

[short rune]

But according to my team-mates (that kill me all the time) it is too dangerous.

[supple siren]

Sounds like a them problem

[short rune]

It is

But they are the crowd controllers. Can't do my job when they don't do theirs.

I snipe armoured targets

And they still refuse to acknowledge that without me they would get mauled 80% of the time.

[rotund marten]

rocket pods became good for me once I realised you need to treat them like a big impact grenade

the call-in orb sticks to targets

I haven't got the 500kg yet, but hopefully it can kill big boys

[short rune]

Always make sure it sticks. Otherwise you are gambling with the hits

500 kg bomb feels like deploying a hell bomb

It insta-kills a bile titan.

[rotund marten]

Sounds like what I need with the GL + Breaker loadout, bit short on AT

[short rune]

Although you can only drop it once and then need to restock

[rotund marten]

I also considered autocannon turret but I really like having 2-3 eagle strats to buff with the Hangar simultaneously

maybe orbital railcannon when I hit 20

but that's got rather less uptime

[short rune]

Orbital rail should one-hit almost everything

[rotund marten]

For some reason I find mixing the Eagle and the orbital guns kind of annoying on an aesthetic level

give me all airstrikes or all orbital fire

[short rune]

It is a waste of points

Focus on either your cannons or your eagle

[rotund marten]

The snappy call-in on the Eagle is really nice, and the rearm time is shorter than the reload time on the railcannon when without buffs

so I'm going for that

Fourth strat slot is either the ammo backpack, drone, shield or a turret, I'm interested in devastator & ballistic shield

[short rune]

Also IIRC one upgrade adds +1 to all ordnances?

[rotund marten]

That's the maxed out one which I plan to really go for

Still haven't got to the top tier samples though

[short rune]

Having two 500 kg bombs sounds fun.

Just wipe out several military bases every 2 minutes

[rotund marten]

I'm mostly looking at that for allowing me to reduce attack waves to chunky salsa without spending a slot on basic airstrike, since to do that I'd have to lose the backpack

but if someone else is willing to drop me a drone or something I can just go 3x eagle

[short rune]

Assuming you get to bring 4 items and not just 3

Such is a modifier too.

I wonder what the other factions will be

IIRC they said they will add two more?

One of them might be Illuminates

[hallow gorge]

The current guess I've seen is it'll be some sort of rebel faction. There's a lot of objectives and lines about dissidents and rebels so

[rotund marten]

In that case yeah, I probably lose the horde clear, but with the grenade launcher and a laser drone or giant pile of ammo it's not so bad

[short rune]

Oh no? Who would rebel against flawless democracy and freedom?

[rotund marten]

Grenadier armour also handy since that's six more frags

[short rune]

If they add rebels I hope they are not relatable. Lol
I might feel bad playing SEAF

[hallow gorge]

Maybe they'll be shapeshifters or something, able to go from little human dudes with guns to big tentacle monsters when you get close

Who knows I'm excited to see what this game is like in a year

[short rune]

Hopefully not a corporate hellhole

But arrowhead seems fine?

I know Helldivers 1 was like 9 years ago and they made a lot of DLCs they kinda sold them relatively cheaply?

I'm still super anxious that they ramp up the prices and scale down farming premium currency.

Like maybe they don't do that. But they are AAA...

Sorry for the bad vibes

I should be happy with how the game turned out

[barren iron]

they are defintely not AAA

[meager sandal]

hey do I need to link my steam and sony account to join a lobby, quickplay keeps on failing

[oblique storm]

Non

The servers are just kinda fucked

The best chance you have is to join a friend

[meager sandal]

ah got it, heard they were at max capacity basically 24/7

[glad marsh]

I probably do. What's weird is its supposed to be bound to alt+windows key

[strange vine]

https://www.rxddit.com/r/Helldivers/comments/1apjhn6/all_i_know_is_that_i_need_this_in_my_life_asap/

[hot meadow]

Oh my god.

[glad marsh]

Exo-44 my beloved

[idle hollow]

They’re like sixty dudes total + whatever help Sony is giving them

they are NOT triple A

[cobalt wing]

A and 1/2

[golden ledge]

Technically, they're still independent as well.

[idle hollow]

my mistake, they're 120 guys not 60

That's still not a lot of people especially not for y'know

nearly 175,000 players on steam alone

[azure pewter]

<@&1206091872716595200> damaged memeocracy

[stone bridge]

me when the democracy is managed

[verbal summit]

I had a bit too much democracy

[stone bridge]

That's fine, soldier, you're just maxxing your democracy

[rotund marten]

current fun build of the day: grenade launcher jump pack

leap up, shoot below you to clear trouble

downside: anti-heavy is nonexistent because I don't have the 500kg or the orbital railcannon yet

might end up going with AC sentry

[honest acorn]

There’s no such thing as too much democracy, only “open fire” and “reload”

[rotund marten]

very tempted by this armour for anti-bot because their rockets are the cause of about 60% of my deaths and I like the speed

but it costs actual supermoney

[idle hollow]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1206817323860627476/1207038355641073757/image0.jpg?ex=65de3111&is=65cbbc11&hm=1d8f6b79a1386cfb735c92c0abc0da8b1acbd84d6b1612d085e7b416fdb65b55&=&format=webp&width=544&height=676

[stone bridge]

I think without the high armour rating the explosive resist won't matter as much

[rotund marten]

armour is possibly bugged to do nothing at present

at the very least, a basic bug chewing on you does the same damage to all armour types

and if that's "everyone is Light" then the Xresist is possibly the thing making the difference

[oblique storm]

I can survive Stalker attacks that kill my teammates

so it doesn't do NOTHING

[supple siren]

I'm thinking it might be a scale thing, the little-bug-bite test isn't enough damage for the defense to change things, they don't want folks threeshot by little guys or invincible to 'em, idk

[stone bridge]

Yeah there is 200% a difference against bigger attacks

Stalkers can two tap scout armour where heavy can take four

[rotund marten]

interesting

[supple siren]

Stalkers are the only thing that make me regret scout armor

[rotund marten]

I'll save my money until peple actually figure out the armour mechanics then

[supple siren]

everything's fine and dandy until you're shorn in half

[rotund marten]

I do want a good light armour for my grenade launcher build

because it has the jetpack

and jetpack is zoomier on light

[supple siren]

I'm using the extra grenades superstore set, enjoying it

never without a way to unmake a nest

[rotund marten]

I'm using the extra grenade medium armour at present, it's good, it's just superfluous when I'm running the GL

since I have dozens of nades in my support weapon slot

I wouldn't mind the throw range one so I could chuck incendiary grenades and strats out miles, but there's no Light version of that

[stone bridge]

I'm bouncing between the light scout and heavy fortified armours currently

[verbal summit]

Me n a friend will do a mission with only Eagle stuff tomorrow probably for the funny.

I love the f15

[rotund marten]

I'm looking forward to getting into the premium warbond for the medium servo-assisted armour

I just can't stand Heavy move speed

maybe heavy with jump pack might be acceptable

[supple siren]

vehicles gonna be a different game for heavy armor

[stone bridge]

I can put up with heavy move speed for the simple fact I've survived so many things I otherwise wouldn't have in lighter armour

I do think light is Meta TM for Bugs though

[oblique lotus]

500kg won't kill armor

unfortunately

[stone bridge]

500kg can one shot biles

So it definitely can

[oblique lotus]

I have never seen a 500kg kill a bile titan

[stone bridge]

Its just very inconsistent

I've seen a video of it doing just that, boss

[oblique lotus]

I've had a 500kg hit a charger in the head and still not kill it

[kindred lintel]

Even with the ship upgrade?

[oblique lotus]

exploding shrapnel doesn't affect the 500kg

the railcannon fucks though

it won't always oneshot a bile titan but it usually will

[oblique storm]

I like the Autocannon

[stone bridge]

The Autocannon is fantastic yeah

[supple siren]

I love how the larger weapons have heft

[rotund marten]

hit my current kill record at 644

I love the GL against bugs

rover drone and grenade launcher mean you just slaughter your way through hordes and dismantle nests, at the cost of anti-heavy

once I get the railcannon to move solo chargers out of my way I'll be in buisness

[vestal trail]

So in the event peeps didn't know, the back side of Charger legs is vulnerable to Autocannon, enough so it's possible to 2-3 tap them dead

[oblique lotus]

huh

[kindred lintel]

back leg bug

[strange vine]

big tiddy helldiver || https://vxtwitter.com/TheGreatAvv/status/1757530325255700691 ||

[rotund marten]

I wish there was some more of this 75 armour light stuff beyond the starter yellow suit, I feel a tiny bit absurd in it

but it's very good indeed

[velvet pollen]

There's a couple free unlocks with the same trait

[rotund marten]

none of which have light armour stats

[velvet pollen]

It can do it but the radius is tiny

[rotund marten]

I want to go fast and not die to a single rocket

if possible

if not possible ah well

[velvet pollen]

Oh I see wym

[velvet pollen]

They take tons of burn damage, you can toast them decently if you don't have railguns/cannons yet

[rotund marten]

<@&1206091872716595200> resuming helldive in 10 minutes

[oblique lotus]

sure

[strange vine]

Where do you shoot chargers with the railgun?

[oblique lotus]

legs to strip armor, four to the head to kill

[stone bridge]

wow :)

[honest acorn]

Nice

No downsides

[stone bridge]

Exactly

[oblique lotus]

seems legit

command wouldn't issue us anything that it wasn't in our best interest to use

though stims are also capable of instantly sealing life threatening chest wounds

so maybe there's something to them

[honest acorn]

I’m addicted to sealing the GSWs

[feral fable]

Not shown: Most Helldivers die within 2 years of a combat drop from a massive cardiac event because they injected themselves with giga coagulants if they survive the drop

[strange vine]

this is actually nicer than i thought theyd be lol

[vestal trail]

Hmmmmmmm

[honest acorn]

<@&1206091872716595200> anyone up for some runs?

[stone bridge]

Yup, gimme 5

[oblique lotus]

ye

[honest acorn]

I’m in activity 1

[oblique lotus]

posting while I remember this

but the mortar turrets are autoloading muzzleloaders

they have a little arm that comes out and drops the shell down the barrel

[short rune]

Ah, my bad. I assumed Sony's involvement made them such by now.

[cobalt wing]

helldiving

[golden ledge]

Remember to uh...watch your angles.

[cobalt wing]

BONK

[short rune]

I still wish there was any indicator at which angle the Eagle attacks.

I think it is horizontal from your direction?

[burnt vapor]

I believe for bombing runs it is always perpendicular to the direction you threw the beacon and from the left

[short rune]

But it's not using the beacon as directional indicator? Eg. when the beacon spins in mid air?

[stone bridge]

@honest acorn

[oblique lotus]

world's greatest landing

[burnt vapor]

As far as I’ve observed the rotation of the beacon is irrelevant
I’ve had it bounce off a building and still come in perpendicular to the direction I threw it

[short rune]

I see

I still can't quite tell. Most of the time it applies but sometimes napalm and 110 mm rockets go at an odd angle.

Maybe it's linked from looking into a different direction shortly after throwing?

On a slightly different note. Can automaton AA tanks attack eagles?

[burnt vapor]

110 is an exception since it has independent homing and I haven’t used the napalm enough to say

[burnt vapor]

I don’t believe so
At worse they prevent you from calling in eagle strikes when in range

[short rune]

Fair

[stone bridge]

is he ok

[true smelt]

Me and the girls on helldivers 2
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cp_W1FMFQJo&pp=ygUPTG9ib3RvbXkgZGl2ZXJz

[honest acorn]

Surviving that bomb was hilarious

The hellbomb clip

[true smelt]

THAT WAS ME LMFAO

[honest acorn]

https://fxtwitter.com/DaveOshry/status/1755955957174333580?s=20

Me playing with people 15+ levels higher than me

[rapid scaffold]

Stayed up wayyy too late playing Helldivers with the gang. It's fuckin good

[short rune]

It's an amazing game

Not sure if I ever saw a shooter that catches immersion this well

Not to ignore the planets we have seen so far.

[barren iron]

stims have zero known addictive properties because the helldivers who use them die before they can feel the addiction set in

[short rune]

How terrible wasteful.

This railgun could have killed a bile titan. ^^

[short rune]

This is such a mood tho

First thing everyone does when in range of a nest is collectively throwing airstrike and orbtial markers.

[verbal summit]

Today ill probably get to the level to buy the 380mm HE barrage.

I can't wait to become a danger to my teammates.

They get to feel the liberty flowing through my blood.

[short rune]

They couldn't bear the amount of democracy you drop upon them.

[verbal summit]

Exactly.

[feral fable]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Helldivers/comments/1ao4gmd/i_love_how_every_random_is_on_the_same_page_in/

"Light Bug Nest Eradicated"

[short rune]

Obliterated

Reduced to atoms

[oblique lotus]

question: do some rare samples make noise for other people?

I asked a couple of the folks in here about it and they didn't hear anything

but I swear some of the rare samples have a sound associated with them

[short rune]

Noise?

[oblique lotus]

the yellow flower ones in particular have a high pitched ringing to them

[short rune]

Can't remember it doing such. But such might come from sensory overload rather than it not being a thing.

I will check that today

[supple siren]

There's for sure a noise for some of them, rare bug samples at least

[short rune]

Ah, that settles it then

[stone bridge]

<@&1206091872716595200> a few late dives, anyone?

[merry cosmos]

Yes sir

Just give me a minute

Ok now yes

[stone bridge]

aite, I personally only really go with 3-4 so let me just

@barren iron up for any runs? 👀

damn

well, if we get someone else within the hour or so I'll be good

[merry cosmos]

<@&1206091872716595200>! Up for any dives?

[barren iron]

uh

whoops

I missed that

[short rune]

We lost Severin Frontline

Automatons have pushed into Xzar

[stone bridge]

I'm still around

[merry cosmos]

Wait really?

[merry cosmos]

Same

[feral fable]

I'm keen

[feral fable]

you still going? I don't see you online

[stone bridge]

Oh I'm just watching a video

Gimme 5

[feral fable]

no problems

[stone bridge]

alrighty

<@&1206091872716595200> in activity 1

[burnt vapor]

Well looks like we need to get angel’s venture secured asap so the TCS can come online and hold back the bugs while we scrap the bots

[oblique storm]

Really annoying that every time there's an update I have to reinstall the entire fucking game apparently

[quartz cloak]

So, general question, how good is the Explosive Liberator from the 'premium' pass?

I know it has a slow rate of fire, but being explosive seems like a huge benefit on a primary

[verbal summit]

Wait how do I get this role?

[stone bridge]

go to #bot-stuff and use ?rank Helldivers

[verbal summit]

Hell yeah we spreading freedom now baby

[burnt vapor]

In my experience it’s okay nothing amazing
The explosive can knock back smaller enemies and apparently does extra damage against weak points like the Charger’s butt
It’s very middle of the road in my opinion

[short rune]

Just wondering, the two guard-dog drones seem to have the same price. I got the Rover variant. Is there any reason to also use the default one?

[burnt vapor]

It's a trade off I believe
The base version hits harder with it's machine gun but needs to reload while the rover can just keep on beaming unless it has to fire for a good while and overheats

[short rune]

I see

[rotund marten]

does the MG variant actually have an ammo cap or can it just pull infinite bullets out of your backpack?

I am really enjoying laserdrone & grenade launcher but a bit more punch might not go amiss

[burnt vapor]

I think it has infinity ammo in your backpack but not 100% on that

[idle hollow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1206817323860627476/1207188595316756550/i6ztnmc7idic1.png?ex=65debcfd&is=65cc47fd&hm=f79619049e0d940f990ff78545c1ec6ebd9ec535c6563a0f31c816b8b031636a&

[short rune]

I assume it does have infinite ammo. It's not like you can reload something like that.

[stone bridge]

it does not

[short rune]

Wha?

It runs out of ammo?

[stone bridge]

yes

[short rune]

...

And when it's out of ammo it just dies?

[stone bridge]

It gains ammo from your resupplies

But it has a finite supply it pulls from your backpack

[short rune]

How much does it usually have?

[stone bridge]

No clue honestly

[short rune]

How many minutes of constant fire can it provide?

It it like empty after a bug horde?

[stone bridge]

I've only used it once

So I don't have the data besides "it does run out"

sorry

[short rune]

Ah, fair. I will figure out.

Or I just stick to rover. 😅
Thank you for testing.

[burnt vapor]

currently testing it and it runs out pretty fast

[short rune]

I wonder if they add a recon drone at some point.

[burnt vapor]

they had a UAV in HD1

[short rune]

Yeah, Bumblebee UAV from the Ranger Pack

It was pretty neat and required no backpack

[burnt vapor]

made sample hunting so much easier

[short rune]

I mainly used it to combat distant targets

[burnt vapor]

having used the standard guard dog for a full mission now I much perfer the rover the ammo limit is way too tight for the extra punch

[short rune]

Thank you for checking

[burnt vapor]

no problem I also wanted to test it anyway

Hopefully it gets a buff when arrowhead finally gets things stable and has time to do a balance pass

[short rune]

I'm sure it will

[rotund marten]

a shame, bullets are cooler than lasers

[short rune]

Ye

One more reason why I went away from Scythe as soon I got my hands on the Anti-armour liberator.

[rotund marten]

I have a pretty set bug loadout right now with grenade launcher, laser dog and a big pile of AT airstrikes

it just minces the hordes

500kg and orbital railcannon for chargers and titans

[verbal summit]

Wait so speaking of the drones

Howndo they work?

[burnt vapor]

They come down as a backpack and upon pick-up deploy and auto target near by hostiles

[verbal summit]

Also debating whether I should put more liberative stuff (more boom) in my loadout or I should play more smart.

[verbal summit]

And they don't really run out of ammo/have a limited use?

[short rune]

If you want to fight the Automatons you should play smarter. They come in less numbers are far more lethal.

[verbal summit]

Oh okay

[short rune]

For bugs, just pick whatever decimates a lot

Large bombs

[verbal summit]

380mm HE 160mm HE with Eagle napalm and Eagle cluster

[burnt vapor]

The Rover has unlimited energy for it's laser while the standard guard dog has a very limited ammo reserve that can only be refilled by supply drops

[verbal summit]

Oh wait replace the cluster with 500kg

More kaboom :3

[burnt vapor]

<@&1206091872716595200> Anyone up for some dives to help liberate Angel's Venture?

[short rune]

I should be available in 2 hours

[quick crown]

Is the standard dog's weapon better damage wise?

[strange vine]

It kinda sucked for me

[meager sandal]

How's the liberation going for angels venture? Are we getting our freedom bonus?

[burnt vapor]

It's at 98.9% and climbing fast

[quick crown]

Also talk to me about the airburst, is it pretty decent at its job?

[strange vine]

Also iirc the laser drone is bugged rn? It almost never goes to recharge which is supposed to be its main drawback

[short rune]

Since the last patch?

[burnt vapor]

The laser drone only goes to recharge if it overheats I believe

[short rune]

It does charge often enough

[rotund marten]

I'm good to dive once I get a drink

[verbal summit]

Also can't wait to play on different planets than the ones I've been on I wanna go to the desert and snowy places

Instead it's just been fart planet and Vietnam.

[burnt vapor]

Did you not do any dives on Heeth before it was liberated?

[verbal summit]

I only got the game like 2 days ago

[burnt vapor]

ahh I see

[quick crown]

Understandable

[short rune]

Might play on Xzar in a bit. I'm getting tired of my old squad and could need some new ones.

[quick crown]

Heeth was fun but damn I don't wanna go back without boots

[verbal summit]

But I'm sure I'll get the chance eventually.

[burnt vapor]

I don't see any bots in Xzar is that just me?

[quick crown]

which i'm pretty sure are a booster? Or are they a stratagem

[barren iron]

yeah there is nothing in xzar

[verbal summit]

I imagine they'll have more outbreaks and uprisings throughout the system as the game goes on.

[short rune]

I thought they had Xzar already

[burnt vapor]

booster

[short rune]

Or were they pushed back instantly

[barren iron]

they were pushed back instantly