Monster Hunter

[eager anchor]

I mean i'm always down for a FF collab

I won't deny my love

[twin ibex]

https://bsky.app/profile/milph.mom/post/3lwrkefecec2k

Mom (@milph.mom)

HUNTER, I NEED YOU TO LEARN THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN STARBOARD AND LARBOARD!

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Bluesky · Aug 19, 2025, 6:32 PM

[mystic cape]

Larboard is Left cause it has an L in it

[brisk dirge]

This is the way

Genuinely how I remembered it for the Omega fight lmao

[mystic cape]

I remembered it because my parents owned a boat for a while and I had to learn certain nautical terms

Starboard is right, Port is left

So with Larboard it's the direction that isn't right

The "L" thing is just easier to explain

Also probably on purpose, tbh

[brave hazel]

OH SHIT WE'RE FIGHTING THE ROBOT

How is carving him gonna work

[stiff dust]

very forcefully

[brave hazel]

Grab a hammer and some bolt cutters and just get to work

I wonder what weapons/armor we'll get from him

...part of me hopes we get some absolutely wild shit like what they did with Akuma that just completely alters the gameplay

[dark juniper]

Apex monsters are really bulky huh

[mystic cape]

They fill the functional role of Elder Dragons in Wilds so they're gonna be on the tougher side of things

[dark juniper]

Oh they’re a thing in wilds too?

We just fought the first apex in rise

[hollow comet]

rise apexes are juiced up versions of monsters, apexes in wilds are apex predators of the region and specifically NOT a stronger version of another monster

😵‍💫

[dark juniper]

…okay we guess Hinoa can speak for elder dragons or something now. Okay.

[hollow comet]

😭

[dark juniper]

Well this elder dragon just seems to want to find its wife so I'm sure it's fine if we leave him alone

ngl we haven't really found the twins too interesting or endearing so far, though maybe that's because this game has only has a cutscene/bit of story every twenty missions or so

Rose (It/Its) | The Labrynth Doll ↩️

[Reply to:](#1164963928531533855 message) …okay we guess Hinoa can speak for elder dragons or something now. Okay.

[teal halo]

It’s a living typhoon, so I’m pretty sure it won’t be

[dark juniper]

Eh, we’re sure it’s fine

[hollow comet]

GU IGs having no sharpness hurts 😭

at least the meta options

my options are

1. short term fix: farm ukanlos jaws for Handicraft 2 and no Razor Sharp
2. farm hyper deviljho and hyper shogun ceanataur for the all-rounder blademaster Handicraft + RS build

I might try to put up a lobby for option 2, it'll be better to have in the long term, but hyper jho is beating me up

[dark juniper]

…oh yeah we’re in high rank now. Time to replace all of our armor with stuff that doesn’t synergize with gunlance so we don’t die 🫠

Rose (It/Its) | The Labrynth Doll ↩️

[Reply to:](#1164963928531533855 message) We just fought the first apex in rise

[dark juniper]

…Minoto you need some therapy

[brave hazel]

They both do

[brave hazel]

...I am sorely tempted to fight the FF14 crossover beastie with Akuma

[halcyon fractal]

just as the Hunter's Guild intended

[tardy grotto]

Capcom

Give me a Thunderjaw crossover, and I will buy Wilds

[mystic cape]

Huh, yeah since Omega is coming as part of Title Update 3 later next month that does open up other mechanical menaces

[real zodiac]

God, thunderjaw would rule

[dark juniper]

Hmm. We should probably try using a wide or normal gunlance at some point, but long gunlance is just so much fun in rise 😌

Also we don't have guard reload or erupting cannon yet and both of those are apparently really good on wide

[daring current]

honestly im fucking praying that AT Arkveld gets the guardian theme again i miss it so much

[dark juniper]

Greatsword is so much fun, even if we are terrible at it 😌

[hollow comet]

realll

[desert light]

KA-BAM

tbf thoguh i didnt like Greatsword in Rise <.<

[dark juniper]

Why's that?

[desert light]

Iceborne had clutch claw for aiming

which was a big deal

you could slinger burst to free aim

and change your direction

(ontop of slinger burss just being realyl fun to weave into your combo, like whe nyou slinger b urst a bunch of good ammo into a monster's face)

also the monsters in Rise are super, super fast

so made GS feel a lot worse.

In WIlds it feels great again - slower monsters, and the new focus move, Perforate, chains into a bunch of stuff

like you can go Charge Slash -> Perforate (Inherits charge level) -> Leaping Wide Slash (Inherits charge level)

[dark juniper]

👍

[hollow comet]

that's why i might end up playing surge slash when i pick it up in rise

I can do alright with the standard moveset against slower/bigger monsters that I kind of know, but not perform exceptionally well

[dark juniper]

Unfortunately you only get surge slash in sunbreak 😔

[hollow comet]

I'm carried by Strongarm Stance

[dark juniper]

Same yeah

Dani (they/she) ↩️

[Reply to:](#1164963928531533855 message) I can do alright with the standard moveset against slower/bigger monsters that I kind of know, but n…

What’s that do?

Dani (they/she) ↩️

[Reply to:](#1164963928531533855 message) I'm carried by Strongarm Stance

We guess adamant charge slash is the closest thing in rise to that

The Zombie Penguin (They/Them) ↩️

[Reply to:](#1164963928531533855 message) and change your direction

[hollow comet]

it's a 2 wirebug skill that's a parry

you can

1. use it from neutral, I think it then lets you charge into an enhanced Charged Slash
2. use it WHILE CHARGING !! and it'll let you go into a TCS

also it gives a 35% damage boost to the slash

[dark juniper]

Oh

[hollow comet]

yeah...

[dark juniper]

So it’s absurd then

[hollow comet]

so i've been charging, letting the monster hit me, then kaboom (sometimes i still miss because my positioning is bad but whatever)

[hollow comet]

it issss

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxU-ltWuBhg

wow you can even pop it off of small barrel bombs

[dark juniper]

It sounds like one of those switch skills that’s so powerful it renders 90% of the moveset obsolete

[hollow comet]

there's probably been a 10k damage wakeup TCS with this and frostcraft

[hollow comet]

i'm not sure on that, don't know enough about GS to say

I hope not though, it's fun but I do like variety

hyper deviljho is giving me a hard time, but adept LS has made it kind of bearable

still have yet to beat it 😔

[dark juniper]

(Which seems to have an issue with rise for some weapons, like how with lance the best thing you can do outside of silkbind attacks is usually guard dash -> leaping thrust yes I’m still bitter about this)

Rose (It/Its) | The Labrynth Doll ↩️

[Reply to:](#1164963928531533855 message) It sounds like one of those switch skills that’s so powerful it renders 90% of the moveset obsolete

Adept longsword is fun 😌

Dani (they/she) ↩️

[Reply to:](#1164963928531533855 message) hyper deviljho is giving me a hard time, but adept LS has made it kind of bearable

[hollow comet]

it is!

the reckoning slash is a lot slower than valor's, but dodging things feels great

[hollow comet]

even with adept this guy is a pain

devil johnathan when i get you...

when your cat flashes the monster out of a topple

😭 😭 😭 😭

i really should take that off

it was for silverlos specifically

FINALLY

38 minutes

ughh, need to do it twice more (unless I hit a 23% for a double drop)

and then I need to do savage jho....

I think I might just throw up a lobby for these over the weekend instead

or try adept GS

it being so tall meant i was whiffing even when it was toppled, that tail moves around too much

but topples are pretty common once i start going for the legs

[dark juniper]

Oh hey jyruatodus is in this game!

That's nice, I like the weird fish 😌

[hollow comet]

i honestly forgot it was in rise :O

[dark juniper]

...is this the point of the game where we have to actually pay attention to elemental weaknesses?

[tardy grotto]

Probably

[dark juniper]

Or maybe we need to start actually gathering spirit birds...

[hollow comet]

my beloathed

well, i don't mind them all that much, but i'm tired of collecting them after almost 200 hours

trying adept GS for deviljho, it's real fun but I'm not sure if i'm doing that much damage

did get a tail cut so that's a good sign

[dark juniper]

“Your hunts can now be invaded”
Oh so like bagelgoose or deviljho can attack or somethin-

…well fuck

[dark juniper]

...well we guess rajang was just there for fun or something?

[rich valve]

He's sleeping

You can wyvern ride it though

[tiny wind]

Sgould i go LS or DB in Rise ?

[mystic cape]

What kind of anime do you watch?

[tiny wind]

Not a lot tbh apothucary diaries, sangrila frontier

Frieren

I do read beserk

[halcyon fractal]

Drive by pickle 😭

[mystic cape]

Yeah see I was gonna make a joke that both are anime but different vibes

[desert light]

Db by far then

If you're a Shangri la frontier fan

DB gets to Do Some Shit

Especially once you hit Sunbreak

It does take a bit to come online, (just because you need to unlock some switch skills etc) but oh boy when it does

[candid perch]

DB goes crazy in Sunbreak

Wilds too, with the dodge mechanic it gets

||but uh, Sunbreak is the more busted fun one. I know of a DB build that makes you near immortal so long as you're doing damage||

[hollow comet]

[desert light]

I need to dust off DBs in Wilds, especially since they just got their drill attack back

[dark juniper]

...okay apprently Sophia wants us to learn how to use sword and shield in this game exclusively because she thinks the rathian one looks cool

(Are non elemental sword and shields even good in rise?)

[mystic cape]

Status is also viable on SnS

Also also SnS can be used as a support weapon since they can use items while drawn

Also also also layered weapons

[dark juniper]

Oh right layered weapons exist!

[hollow comet]

sns is also really fun!

[dark juniper]

I may be stupid

[hollow comet]

it's my secondary

[desert light]

I belive in Rise status buildsm ake big use of Forary

which is quite good

[dark juniper]

We are learning that rapid morph switch axe is very fun

[hollow comet]

yessssss

[dark juniper]

Also we think they ruined our boy jyuratodus, he was not this fast in world 😔

[desert light]

I just don't like the piscine wyverns ever, honestly

[rapid lion]

I disliked Jyuratodus in World due to having to farm him a ton. I don't even remember why; I think because I almost always capture monsters (it's more satisfying) and I needed a crapton of low-rarity materials from him for weapons because they branched into multiple things?

[hollow comet]

another hyper jho down with 41s (again) left on the clock

i really thought i was gonna time out, which was concerning since I had 10+ mins left on my last hunt, but I was a bit less aggressive this time ig?

still a draining hunt, I'll probably do the 3rd one and the savage jhos online

it's a bit of a tall guy

i often struggle to hit it

oh! I apparently got 3 hyper jho scales that hunt, so I don't need to do any more! just savage jho

..."just"

[dark juniper]

These monsters must have a ton of health to take this long to hunt

[hollow comet]

they have a hefty chunk, but I'm also not doing too much damage

turns out adept GS dodge attack has a followup quick strong charge that does about 50% more, but it's hard to land it

fights I'm familiar with can be 12-20 mins

deviljho is really scary tho

[frank epoch]

Old monster hunter games usually take a bit longer for the hunts

[lethal mirage]

I don't remember a lot of fights in MHFU that took over 20 min unless I was hella unprepared

[dark juniper]

Is it just us or is evade extender in rise a lot more powerful than it is in world?

Like, level two evade extender goes so far

[desert light]

It's extremely powerful in rise and affects your wirebug recovery and stuff

[hollow comet]

omg, i wonder if i still have one particular swaxe clip

https://medal.tv/games/monster-hunter-rise/clips/k96B42Bn7Z6gYq2fd

I have EE2 here and it also affects your post-switch skill swap dodge

[dark juniper]

That is an absurd dodge

[hollow comet]

rightttt

[dark juniper]

Really wish rise had a room that was more like world's, decorating it was fun

[dark juniper]

Oh gods we have to fight Ibushi during a rampage!? Why must the devs force us to go through one of those again

On an unrelated note, us not using buddies much is turning out to have been a bad idea because a gunlance we want needs buddy tickets

[hollow comet]

[dark juniper]

...so apparently you get a buddy ticket once every 20 quests

Rose (It/Its) | The Labrynth Doll ↩️

[Reply to:](#1164963928531533855 message) On an unrelated note, us not using buddies much is turning out to have been a bad idea because a g…

The good news is that this includes expeditions

The bad news is that I need 4 of them so that's 80 expeditions being entered then immediately exited, which will still take a while

[hollow comet]

oh goodness

🫂

[dark juniper]

Curse my preferring to play without buddies

Minoto is probably very concerned right now

Rose (It/Its) | The Labrynth Doll ↩️

[Reply to:](#1164963928531533855 message) The bad news is that I need 4 of them so that's 80 expeditions being entered then immediately exited…

[dark juniper]

Weird, for some reason our status screen is showing our weapon damage as 6 higher than the weapon itself says it should be, even when we don't have any armor equipped

[hollow comet]

hmm that is weird

does your weapon have attack boost decos

[mystic cape]

Are you carrying the Power Charm or Power Talon?

[hollow comet]

keep forgetting how fun doing hunts online is, it's not completely my jam, but it's a different kind of hunting experience and the hunts go by fast

[hollow comet]

i suppose the second point is because hub hunts are not scaled in GU, now that I think about it

[bleak halo]

…oh yeah we forgot about that

[mystic cape]

I've forgotten that before too, it happens

Also I see you too follow Azul

[dark juniper]

Yeah, she’s great!

[mystic cape]

Indeed

[dark juniper]

Welp the Ibushi rampage is done, Minoto is acting weird, and now we have to kill a giant fire breathing spider
Which sounds fun and it'll probably give us some awesome looking armor so 😌

[dark juniper]

Well that was a fun fight!

The armor reminds us of the vaal hazak armor in the best way, it's very cool 😌

There’s got to be like a counselor or a therapist somewhere in this village, right?

[potent kraken]

Hopefully

[daring current]

I've gained a newfound love for "Radiant Cry of Life" it's so fucking tragic I love it

[tiny wind]

my smooth brain want to try a poison LS build in wilds

[mystic cape]

Fair

[hollow comet]

after playing GU a bunch, it's fun spotting things in Rise that are really similar :D

you can run Courage Hammer and Impact Burst to have Valor Hammer + Impact Press (without the valor sheathe or meter)

I also forgot how fun and fast paced Rise is

and not having 4P health scaling in 1P is nice

[brave hazel]

Y'know what I vaguely hope for

I hope we get to see Omega just absolutely curb stomp the shit out of some big bad scary monster

Like Zoh Shia or a Gore Magala or Jin Dahaad or something

Establish that this thing is without a shadow of a doubt the most powerful being that's made its way into this world

[amber frost]

hit a zoh with the starboard larboard mixup

[hollow comet]

i would like monsties with 8* or 9* stats and behaviour but with reduced damage, I feel like that would be a good difficulty place for me

tried some of the 9* monsters and got shredded, but I put up a decent fight for being rusty

[desert light]

Is your armor upgraded fully?

That makes a huge difference

[hollow comet]

that would make sense, it was maybe levels 6-8

I'll try that for next time

not used to upgrading armour fully lol

[desert light]

You really should. Defense makes a ton of difference

[tiny wind]

Why am going from DB to LS am I weird ?

[hollow comet]

starting to figure out brachydios, just staying under it while possible

sometimes i get combod by the double explosion line but it is what it is

[zealous laurel]

Definitely feels like 9* are balanced around having 400+ def. Having that + divine blessing 3 + guts helped a lot

Something i recently found is that adamant pills are crazy. 90 seconds of a huge def boost

[desert light]

I've been doing 400 def + divine blessing. I usally just drink Demon Juice and Armor Juice, i should check whether adamnt piulls and armor juice stack

[zealous laurel]

I think pills stack with drug, but overrides seed

[void narwhal]

a friend and boy

[near bane]

When is it releasing, i completely forgot

[desert light]

Sepetember, i dont think we have a hard date

[brave hazel]

...I swear to fucking god I've heard this roar somewhere in Monster Hunter before but I cannot remember where
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBSYVpiMkQo

[potent kraken]

Rathalos?

[mystic cape]

Sounds more like Kehzu to me

Though I do think there's a better match

Mizutsune perhaps?

[frank epoch]

It's not Khezu or Mizu or Rathalos

Too deep for all those

Almost reminded me of like, Teostra

[mystic cape]

Maybe

Part of the issue is the roar isn't isolated so there's also SFX and music for the brain to parse through

[brave hazel]

I almost wanna say kushala?

But kushala's roars are more airy

...wait

THAT'S NOT MONSTER HUNTER THAT'S THE ELDEN RING DRAGON ROAR

[potent kraken]

THAT EXPLAINS WHY IT WAS FAMILIAR

[tiny wind]

i miss the khezu

[void narwhal]

Gigginox v-v

[dawn prism]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1364436921681575956/1410439993616498758/8a1yIUAAAABklEQVQDACMj5dySggpRAAAAAElFTkSuQmCC.png?ex=68b1061b&is=68afb49b&hm=2879bab1de9c11d07ee79b9ace9c1978ed06d058bf77d7f81a802a74cb5c74fe&

[halcyon fractal]

name definitely checks out

[hollow comet]

kushala still makes me a lil sad even in GU, but I got my Large Elder Dragon Gem from a shiny before triple carting

fully upgraded my Crimson Fatalis IG 😌

[brave hazel]

Y'know who I wish we got instead of Omega

This purple fucking dickhead

[frank epoch]

Ultros!

[brave hazel]

We've already got the skeletons for an octopus and it'd be fun fighting a sapient organic monster

[potent kraken]

That’d be a third octopod then, yes?

[brave hazel]

Aye

[verbal copper]

I do love fighting octopods

[balmy swan]

new swaxe, new drip

[willow charm]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OL3SqhJdDWo

"Unga. And dare I say...Bunga."

[verbal copper]

Gale looking axe

[dark juniper]

Welp, time to try to kill a Narwa we guess

We notice a conspicuously placed cannon in the cutscene

...and an eye on this thing's stomach

[dark juniper]

Well that was annoying, I sure am glad there isn't a phase 2

Yep, definitely no phase two or second fight we're sure

Oh hey we can just skip to master rank now without doing anything like that, neat

[dark juniper]

We like these people already

...okay we're gonna go figure out how to make steam deck screenshots not look awful

[hollow comet]

ooh, nice cape :O

what armour piece is that?

[dark juniper]

It's the guild cross layered chest piece!

(We don't really like the white cape, but we can't think of a better color for it)

We've only had erupting cannon for five seconds and if anything happened to it we would kill everyone in this thread and then ourselves

Oh hey, a princess is in charge of quests here! That's nice 😌

A new room?! Please be better than the last one 🥺

Well it's... less boring we guess

[dark juniper]

Anyway we're gonna head back to high rank and try out surge slash
Or well, we'll do that tomorrow because it's almost 3 am

[hollow comet]

[hollow comet]

ooooh gotcha

[hollow comet]

i only learned this week that IG has a backwards vault input after attacking

aerial is real fun 😌 😌

[dark juniper]

Aerial seems to be the dedicated “for fun” style in GU

[hollow comet]

it has been pretty fun on most weapons I've tried it with, yeah

i don't like Aerial LS tho

[dark juniper]

Surge slash is really fun 😌

Rose (It/Its) | The Labrynth Doll ↩️

[Reply to:](#1164963928531533855 message) Anyway we're gonna head back to high rank and try out surge slash
Or well, we'll do that tomorrow be…

[dark juniper]

Erupting cannon is also really fun and makes wide worth playing 😌

[hollow comet]

😌

[dark juniper]

…maybe we should learn how to dodge

But dodging means not attacking the monster so really what's the point

Not spending time using potions?

Shush you

[gentle knoll]

look

when you can parry into GAINING SHARPNESS

why dodge

or whetstone

[dark juniper]

True!

whyyyyyyyyyy

[tardy grotto]

Somebody needs to try bowgun

[rapid lion]

dodging can be fun in its own way (note: I have only played IG and dual blades, in World, without the DLC). Odogaron in particular is like a rodeo.

or, a bullfight, actually. Not a rodeo. It's just a very satisfying fight.

[balmy swan]

Evade Window + Adrenaline Rush + Razor's Edge is a pretty good time in Wilds

[dark juniper]

Why must dango bombadier not have a 100% activation chance

[dark juniper]

Welp, allmother time apparently

We are sure fighting both of these annoying bosses at once will be fun and not frustrating

[naive elk]

surely it will not suck

[dark juniper]

Down a life but ibushi is dow- what just happened

[naive elk]

https://tenor.com/view/yamada-kun-to-lv999-no-koi-wo-suru-my-love-story-with-yamada-kun-at-lv999-akane-smirk-akane-yamada-kun-to-lv999-no-koi-wo-suru-lv999-anime-gif-9292004019520058892

[dark juniper]

...two lives down

Why does she get to have dragonators but not me?

[naive elk]

i don't know

but it is NOT a fun mission i can tell you that

[hollow comet]

i seem to have wiped that part from my memory

most of that fight except the end and the MR version

[naive elk]

having to fight Narwa and Ibushi was so ass

[dark juniper]

Magnamalo!?

[naive elk]

:D

[dark juniper]

She basically sets up a circle of spinning dragonators around her and sucks you into them

Dani (they/she) ↩️

[Reply to:](#1164963928531533855 message) i seem to have wiped that part from my memory

...and then we died

This fight sucks

[naive elk]

yes

yes it does

[hollow comet]

ughhh

gotcha

i remember the spinning pillars, didn't register they were dragonators

[dark juniper]

We're just gonna start doing master rank stuff and deal with that quest when we're more powerful than it expects

[hollow comet]

y'all are making me want to give GL a try

[dark juniper]

It's very fun!

[hollow comet]

😌

i was considering building one, looked at the options, and went "hey the primordial malzeno one looks good!"

I hadn't played rise in a few months so I got my butt promptly kicked 😔 my primordial clears are iffy at best when I was playing more

how foolish..

[dark juniper]

Fighting Hermitaur is fun 😌

[dark juniper]

...wait we go on quests with npcs in sunbreak? That's interesting

[mystic cape]

Sometimes, and there are special quests designed for the NPC buddies, it's like a prototype of the NPC helpers in Wilds

[dark juniper]

…pardon?

[hollow comet]

😭

maybe she just likes hunting a lot

she's just like me fr

[red gazelle]

Guys

Im getting wilds today

Monster hunting gonna be wild

(s)

[tardy grotto]

Yo

What weapon you thinking?

[red gazelle]

Charge blade my beloved

Or switch axe

[mystic cape]

You can do both

[red gazelle]

That’s boring though

At the same time

Hmmmm

Maybe greatsword as well

[red gazelle]

This games a banger

Holy

[red gazelle]

The amount of dopamine I get with the greatsword is so cool

Like all the attacks

Like charge blade is cool and all but like

[desert light]

So! hot greatsword tips

you can chain any attack into Perforate, it's focus attack

even without wounds this is very good, because Perforate A: Inherits the charge level of the previous attack

and B: Perforate chains into Leaping Wide Slash

...which also inherits Perforate's charge level

Also, learn to use it's offset attack, as Rising Charge Slash is incredibly nasty

SCS -> Perforate -> LWS can be looped and does simialr to TCS levels of damage

while being a lot mroe mobile/safe

Also landing focus attacks on a wound lets you do a leaping wide slash, or if you've got the opening, go straight into a TCS

very potent!

[red gazelle]

That’s literally what I’m learning to do

Like it’s incredibly fun

[dark juniper]

Oh hey, this guy was in generations!

[hollow comet]

omg yeah

that’s awesome 😌

[dark juniper]

I think the hp of the monster scales up for this or something

Rose (It/Its) | The Labrynth Doll ↩️

[Reply to:](#1164963928531533855 message) ...wait we go on quests with npcs in sunbreak? That's interesting

[hollow comet]

iirc they don't, but the followers don't do much damage

they have great utility though, which can still help with your hunts

[snow helm]

Yeah, you can get the two shrine maidens both using hunting horns by the end of the Sunbreak story

Which is pretty crazy

[hollow comet]

i think utsushi even has an AuL horn so i might swap him in for one of the sisters

[red gazelle]

Alright guys

Please give me all the knowledge you have about greatsword and offset slash

(For mh Wilds)

[dark juniper]

Neat!

TooClose ↩️

[Reply to:](#1164963928531533855 message) Yeah, you can get the two shrine maidens both using hunting horns by the end of the Sunbreak story

[dark juniper]

Rise/Sunbreak question: is wisp of mystery the best way to get good talismans?

[full sage]

that was the top end in rise, but sunbreak added g rank talisman melding which greatly outclasses it (and generally makes grinding for high rank talismans not worth it)

[dark juniper]

I swear that moving around the map in rise feels slower than it did in world, which feels weird given great wirebugs didn't exist in world

[naive elk]

it should be much faster in Rise

[dark juniper]

Yeah, it should

[dark juniper]

Other rise thing: it's kind of depressing how few of the gunlance switch skills are viable
Like, charged shelling is just bad, guard reload is useful exclusively for wide shelling, erupting cannon does a bit less damage than wyrmstake cannon but is significantly faster and buffs your melee damage
The only options that actually have competition are hail cutter/ground splitter/bullet barrage and guard edge/reverse blast dash

We love rise but there are some weird decisions in it

[full sage]

i know a couple of switch skills for different weapons are essentially legacy "the weapon used to work this way and thus we have this version of the moveset, but we also just totally reworked this function, so you can have this new move instead (and you totally will)"

...some of those being "in comparison to older monhun" and some of those being "in comparison to rise from sunbreak"

[hollow comet]

rise feels so good

and i really appreciate the qol now

i just did a quest and was trying to collect all my items 1 by 1

collect all

😌

multiple crafting

[dark juniper]

So um. At what point does elemental damage start being the meta in sunbreak?

(For weapons other than gunlance we mean, we assume gunlance cares exclusively about what has the highest shelling level until the very end game)

[hollow comet]

i'm kinda getting my butt kicked hunting without npcs, i think they take a bit too much aggro and i've been relying on that

I was also yapping a lot about the game at the same time, so I'll try hunting solo tmrw and see if I can shore up my skills

[dark juniper]

We’ve been having the opposite experience funnily enough, they keep drawing too much aggro so we can’t hit the monster with full bursts 😔
And when we try to blast dash over to the monster it starts attacking us at that exact moment 😩

Dani (they/she) ↩️

[Reply to:](#1164963928531533855 message) i'm kinda getting my butt kicked hunting without npcs, i think they take a bit too much aggro and i'…

[hollow comet]

😭

[red gazelle]

What stats are important for greatsword in wilds?

[mystic cape]

Partly depends on personal preference but stuff like quick sheathe, focus, offensive guard, that set bonus that gives an attack bonus after a clash, the usual raw/crit bonuses, not much element since GS hits slow meaning it can't take full advantage of them usually

[balmy swan]

Focus 3 is generally considered mandatory for GS

the Arkveld GS getting it innately is one of the reasons it's so good

i personally also run Quick Sheathe 3 for QOL

Offensive Guard is good if you're blocking a lot, though i've found that at lower levels the buff frequently doesn't last long enough to get a hit in before it expires; GS swings s l o w

[dark juniper]

…we are perhaps a bit out of practice with lance

[hollow comet]

😔

lucent narga does not want to give me a mantle

i love ruling the earth and seizing the sky

[hollow comet]

😭

at least i can buy it from the anomaly shop if i get realllllyyyy desperate

[balmy swan]

Got them rare drop blues

[hollow comet]

[brave hazel]

D'you reckon Capcom will ever make Spread feel actually usable in Wilds

[potent kraken]

Not sure, the knockback is simply too big

[snow helm]

Man, it's a funny thing but maybe what I'm most excited about in the expansion are the new variants/subspecies of the new Wilds monsters

I hope Xu Wu gets something really spicy (that isn't another fire subspecies)

[brave hazel]

Yeah, it's massively excessive

I get that they're trying to tamper down Spread from being The Best Ammo Type but holy shit this is the worst way they could have done it

I wish they'd just given it the recoil that locks you in place for a split second

[dark juniper]

wat

[full sage]

that's a classic weapon, yeah.

always has had suboptimal sharpness and weirdly high affinity, though sunbreak/rise made it more... dramatic.

[dark juniper]

Mmm, makes sense

At this point in the game it honestly looks pretty usable, though still have no idea when the elemental meta begins in sunbreak

[full sage]

I'm fairly sure that's still weapon type dependent to some degree, and often times, if you're going through progression, you'll probably do fine just running raw until you hit the top end of things?

...I'm the last person to ask in terms of "hey, when do you switch to using element from raw" because the answer to that for my playthroughs has always been "I was using raw??"

I know longsword, for example, has different matchups in which raw (read:status: or element are each favored depending on hitzones

there's also some cases like hammer in which element vs raw is "which playstyle are you using" and some playstyles are easier for certain match-ups than others

[dark juniper]

📝

[full sage]

from what I can tell, lance can probably get away with using raw the entire time (and by raw, it's blast and fire/poison, but spec'd to focus on raw damage) but specializing in element for certain match-ups and spamming a move that has really good elemental motion values can melt certain monsters

[desert light]

generally, use element if you're using any high attack rate weapon

It gets funkier in rise/sunbreak because Forary existgs and is quite strong

so you can run say, Poison DBs and pteotnailly do well with forary (Though... just use elemental dbs, please)

[full sage]

sunbreak just made things really weird in regards to "do you use element or raw?" because it made things like elemental hammer weirdly viable
...then there's sns that has like, 2 main playstyles embolden or not, and one of those tends to favor status/raw, the other can do either element or raw

[hollow comet]

got my drop! 😌

and the cat stole a 2nd for good measure

[full sage]

...Ironically, I think foray got powercrept by later title updates, so the poison sns builds aren't actually using it...

ah, and the lucent nargacuga weapons's really funky sharpness and interactions with heavensent enables some really weird builds

there ends up being a sliding scale of "how much do you want to put your life on the line?" for a lot of endgame build options, since there's a lot of viable endgame skills in sunbreak

[dark juniper]

Yay!

Dani (they/she) ↩️

[Reply to:](#1164963928531533855 message) got my drop! 😌 📎

What does Foray do?

The Zombie Penguin (They/Them) ↩️

[Reply to:](#1164963928531533855 message) It gets funkier in rise/sunbreak because Forary existgs and is quite strong

[full sage]

raw up and affinity up when attacking a paralyzed or poisoned monster.

[dark juniper]

Interesting

Why fire?

lcl ↩️

[Reply to:](#1164963928531533855 message) from what I can tell, lance can probably get away with using raw the entire time (and by raw, it's b…

[full sage]

sometimes you run into things like "blood awakening actually has surprisingly competitive numbers while you have either bloodblight or blood rite up," which means that during afflicted matchups or matchups in which monster parts break fast, you can have high damage output and a lot of comfort via healing on attacking wounds, but it's worthless on fights that hp gate part breaks on major weak points

[full sage]

there is one fire weapon that also does poison, that's actually a weirdly good poison weapon.

[dark juniper]

Huh, neat

[full sage]

you are effectively a raw build with poison on top that also happens to have extra fire on it.

[dark juniper]

(Side note: gods we are bad with lance in this game, our hunts with it take 5+ minutes longer than with gunlance. Maybe we should be doing guard dash spam)

(And also bother making crit boost and crit eye decorations but that would involve grinding high rank hunts)

[full sage]

part of the reason builds often end up "status, but really you're doing raw" is the buildup boost skill

which is "gain 10/15/20% extra raw when you hit with an attack that deals status, which for status weapons is approximately 1/3 the time"

[dark juniper]

RiseBreak sure has some weird skills

[full sage]

a lot of endgame raw builds will end up using it because it turns out 6.7% effective extra raw is just good, but there's like, a few jank off-meta but really funny Status Trigger builds that use it

status trigger is "after i framing an attack, for a brief period of time, all your attacks deal status, instead of just 1/3 the time"

[dark juniper]

That is very weird

[full sage]

endgame sunbreak builds have a lot of skills on, so like, most of the things I'm mentioning will also have
mail of hellfire (raw up defense down or element up resist down depending on your switch scroll)
bloodlust (inflict yourself with frenzy virus for affinity buffs)
powder mantle (attacking enough times cloaks you in powder. if hit while powdered, you explode and lose it, but after enough time it activates and while active if you hit a monster, the monster explodes instead)

[hollow comet]

squeezed out the final silverwind nargacuga hunt with a couple of minutes left

between silverwind and lucent, i think i've fought enough nargacugas for a few years

...but i'm still missing materials for the final horn upgrade, so back to it

[twin ibex]

https://www.rxddit.com/r/MonsterHunter/s/cRTINH9wjj

[dark juniper]

...we are being reminded that almudron is not very fun to fight

[full sage]

the smaller, more aggressive, literally explosive subspecies is a significantly better fight

[brave hazel]

Almudron sucks yeah

Fucking pest

[snow helm]

Honestly, having had to grind his gear three times over a single playthrough as a Swaxe main in Rise, I kind of got into a rhythm with him

But it ended up just being tedious at a certain point

[dark juniper]

We finally have bullet barrage 😌

[dark juniper]

Gods we love Astalos's theme

[hollow comet]

😌

[full sage]

amusingly, one can purchase the MHGU soundtrack on steam.

you know, the game that doesn't have a steam port

[hollow comet]

wth 😭

that's very funny

[full sage]

it includes the best first large monster's theme!

[dark juniper]

Bullet barrage is the best thing ever invented

Rose (It/Its) | The Labrynth Doll ↩️

[Reply to:](#1164963928531533855 message) We finally have bullet barrage 😌

[hollow comet]

what is it?

[dark juniper]

Wirebug attack on gunlance where you reload everything in your gunlance before charging at the monster and firing everything at it

It has a long start up (if wyvernfire is on cooldown) and long end lag but it is so much fun to use

[hollow comet]

[desert light]

I lkiked almudron, but levithans and rise duals were always a very ufnny time

Just roll back and fowards

[dark juniper]

We’ve discovered the downside of bullet barrage: it’s so powerful that spamming it is the best thing you can do with long gunlance
Admittedly long gunlance didn’t really have a well defined playstyle before this so 🤷‍♀️

Rose (It/Its) | The Labrynth Doll ↩️

[Reply to:](#1164963928531533855 message) Bullet barrage is the best thing ever invented 📎

[hollow comet]

😔

finally finished upgrading my hunting horn after many hours of silverwind nargacuga! 😌
immediately starts building DB sets and learning DBs instead of learning horn 😭 I'll give it a try tomorrow...

[balmy swan]

back on the weapon carousel for another ride around 😛

it's real, i just abruptly picked switch axe back up after dropping it since basically the beginning of Wilds HR

no idea why it's suddenly clicked for me now

[brave hazel]

I wish I liked Swaxe but something about it just

Doesn't do it for me

[balmy swan]

It's taken me some time to wrap my head around it, both in World and then again in Wilds

And honestly if I weren't so enamored with the concept I probably wouldn't have bothered

[red gazelle]

Guys how do I beat Jin dahaad

Monster that has caused me the single most deaths

By far

[balmy swan]

Having Adrenaline Rush in Wilds is fantastic for it, though. Can't do anything but dodge anyway, might as well get some benefit from it

[balmy swan]

Is there a particular move that's carting you consistently

[red gazelle]

No the all around loose half your hp is killing me

As well as hitting the big attack on greatsword and it then turning around and blasting my fave with ice

[void narwhal]

Greatsword might be rough with Jin's big ol hitboxes

[balmy swan]

For me, I've found the best approach for Jin is to cautiously pick away at its legs and then go ham on it when you get a knockdown

If it's on its feet, it punishes you viciously for overcomitting

[red gazelle]

Ye

It kinda just fucks me up

Also I still have low rank armor because I don’t know what armor to get

[balmy swan]

If by luck you have any commission tickets, I found the arm pieces' two points of Quick Sheathe really useful for GS in early high rank

[red gazelle]

Oh I just realised I have -8 ice resistance

[red gazelle]

I don’t think I have any

[void narwhal]

Might also just be time for a lil armor update

[red gazelle]

Ye

I think so too

Im looking at Guardian Ratshalle

Rathalos*

Or fulgur anjanath

[balmy swan]

Guardian Rath has weakness exploit, doesn't it? Not a bad choice

[red gazelle]

Ye

That’s why I’m looking at it

[balmy swan]

Oh, Fulgur is pretty good too

The Max Might + set bonus combo is pretty fun

And since GS doesn't blow through a lot of stamina you can get close to 100% uptime if you're conservative about rolling

Either choice would be a good one tbh

[hollow comet]

yeah 😭

aerial insect glaive has just been a blast (52) though

[hollow comet]

ooooh awesome!

😌

[hollow comet]

hooooooough GU horn got hands

rise horn is so simple in comparison

[balmy swan]

Rise HH was very simplified from other versions of it, yeah

Haven't played the GU version of it, but the World and Wilds version definitely involves mentally keeping track of a lot of information

I like the amount of input "cheats" Wilds added

Racking up notes while I drop an echo bubble is fun 😌

[full sage]

i can't say anything about world or wilds horn, but i don't remember gu horn being too complex, since there wasn't really any gimmick to it other than double notes

[frank epoch]

Songs aren't displayed

Or rather the song list isn't

[dark juniper]

Huh, we can fight gore magala before any other elder dragon in master rank, neat

(Side note: why are there only ever like 2 viable gunlances of each shell type while progressing through rise/break? You'd think they'd know that nobody cares about anything other than shell level 90% of the time)

[balmy swan]

It's less to do with gimmicks and more to do with the note combinations being fiddlier, for me. Probably that's something that'd feel less complicated with more experience, as I have not used HH a whole lot at the moment

[dark juniper]

…oh right, gore magala is technically a ??? and not an elder dragon

Rose (It/Its) | The Labrynth Doll ↩️

[Reply to:](#1164963928531533855 message) Huh, we can fight gore magala before any other elder dragon in master rank, neat

[mystic cape]

Yeah it's weird since it becomes an Elder but isn't one yet

[dark juniper]

A little baby destroyer of ecosystems 🥺

[dark juniper]

It's taking a bit to get used to reverse blast dash 😔

[dark juniper]

...there's a cat ear layered armor dlc for rise?

[brave hazel]

Yurp

You can even get layered armor of the NPCs, for

Some reason

There's also a cat tail to really complete the cat-person look

[dark juniper]

Neat!

[desert light]

It actually has a classifaction now in Wilds

[dark juniper]

Speaking of cat layered armor, capcom why

[desert light]

"Demi-elder"

To represent that it's now more researched and known about, and where it fits in

[dark juniper]

We are sure that classification is not meant to evoke anything

[balmy swan]

"you may sit on the council, but we do not grant you the rank of elder"

[desert light]

I'm not sure what you're refrencing here, sorry

[dark juniper]

It sounds like demi god, and with how certain elder dragons are treated in the games it seems fitting

...Soph, demi is just also the right word to use for this

I may be stupid

[desert light]

Nah, i think it's both valid

demi is the correct modiofier, but i would not be surpsied if the invocation of demi-god is correct

I honestly idndt think of that and it's a nice take

[dark juniper]

Gore magala is very tanky
Or maybe we weren't hitting it enough

...yeah 25 minutes is pretty slow

We got a mantle from it though

…thanks Bahari, I’m sure that cheers her up

(Also we swear the sunbreak cutscenes have some weird camera angles with Fiorayne sometimes)

[red gazelle]

JIN DAHAAD DOWN

Fucking hate it and love it

Like banger music but like it’s so atrocious to fight alone with greatsword

Mf is way quicker than I expect

[balmy swan]

the big ones seem like they lumber but they cover a lot of area with deceptively small movements

and Jin's ice blasts make it a threat from all the way across the room

[desert light]

Really/ I love fighting him solo with GS

The main trick is just to go for his feetsies

and whenver you can, land focus attacks on bodyp arts

he toples very easily

and then he's easy pickings

[red gazelle]

I just encountered the fever dream that is gore magala

I have no clue what to do because it has that horrid combination of large and fast

[hollow comet]

i have trouble fighting it in wilds

maybe i’ll take dual blades and try again

it’s parts the damage, darkness, the areas its in, and a smidge of performance issues

[mystic cape]

Gore is aggressive but since it's always aggressive you can match energy. All you need to do is know what it's swinging and you can hit somewhere else.

[red gazelle]

Ye it gets better

I did get knocked out two times

Let’s go I got the gem from a tail

Fabius is an absolute chad

I couldn’t have done it without him

[mystic cape]

Good, cause now you have to do it without him for every other hunt and the Tempered ones

[brave hazel]

That's my issue with Gore tbh

Feels like it weighs nothing with how much it jumps around

[red gazelle]

For me like at one point it clicked

[dark juniper]

We have realized that if you are running surge slash greatsword you definitely want to focus on elemental damage

We learned this after taking like 20 minutes to kill a tobi kadachi with an astalos greatsword when it took significantly less time to kill a rathian with it

[hollow comet]

[candid perch]

I hope I'm not reposting...

https://youtu.be/7gVNQCo5BLQ?si=UMxYT4lAwKF3IIYJ

[dark juniper]

Welp, time to fight Malzeno

Feels a bit early tbh, even though we know there's a true final boss elder dragon sometime after it

[dark juniper]

This thing can teleport!?

Okay so wasting two lives trying to use a weapon I am still learning was not a good idea as it turns out

[mystic cape]

Technically Malzeno doesn't teleport, it just moves that fast over very short distances. You can follow the trail if you look closely IIRC

[dark juniper]

Oh neat

Killed it with a wyrmstake while it was midair and flying back to rest 😌

Such a cool monster, it'll definitely be fun to fight again when we're better at surge slash

Nice to see that Galleus and Bahari both realize that there's definitely going to be another elder dragon we have to kill after malzeno

...okay so blood rite seems pretty damn good

Healing when attacking broken parts? That's what we spend 90% of the hunt doing anyway, sign us up

So the malzeno gunlance is the first long 7 gunlance we have access to, but it's sharpness is so bad that we'd have to use max handicraft, razor sharp, and probably protective polish to use the dang thing
And we definitely do not have the slots for that. Annoying

[dark juniper]

Apparently we got a golden crown large malzeno on our first win against it, neat

[hollow comet]

blood rite is really cool yea :D

[dark juniper]

Also we are only now realizing that the monster paintings you can buy at the argosy are unlocked by getting a gold crown of a monster, neat

[full sage]

for most monsters, there is a 10 hunt unlock, but you also unlock special extra banners the first time you hunt certain monsters

blood rite is a fun utility skill, but the true potential of the thing comes later, after fighting another elder dragon

[dark juniper]

Oooooh, okay cool

[dark juniper]

…those are not great hit zones.

[hollow comet]

poor pierce D:

[dark juniper]

Well it gets slightly better after "the Bloodening" at least
https://mhrise.kiranico.com/data/monsters/50943022

[hollow comet]

a bit

😔

i'm often missing parts for decos

usually HR mats

like apex rathalos, who i'm not even sure where to fight

I think that's for crit boost decos so I should get on that lol

[full sage]

check the high rank event quests, there should be at least one there

that you can do without rampages

[hollow comet]

oooh

tyty

I'll take a look next time I'm on

[hollow comet]

having weapon indecision in rise, and am finally also looking into build guides

this is leading to a large amount of decision paralysis lol

especially with elemental weapons

I'll just focus on making 1 new sns build, then I'll make all of the LS elements after

maybe courage hammer IG, or gunlance after

[dark juniper]

We're probably gonna spend tomorrow just grinding out a lot of the HR decos 😔

Dani (they/she) ↩️

[Reply to:](#1164963928531533855 message) usually HR mats

[full sage]

15+ different dual blades sets

[dark juniper]

With how duel blades work we would not be surprised if that’s how many are necessary

[full sage]

oh, only 5 were necessary, the other 10 were for what fighting style i felt like that day

... it might have been 18, not 15, so the other 13

[hollow comet]

yea..

it'll be a little annoying but it'll pay off

ah well, it's just how the game goes 😌 get to hunt more monsties

also have to go back to HR for the narwa hammer

[red gazelle]

Im being tempted a lot by the gore magala frenzy builds

Are they any good on greatsword?

[full sage]

from context, I assume you're talking wilds, in which the general thought appears to be that gore magala armor was really good on release, so much so that a lot of different weapons, including gs used it, but the additional title updates powercrept it on the top end of things, though 2 pieces still has a place in certain specific builds.

...of course, you do still need to like, get to the harder content and clear it to get to that stronger armor, so like, you could always make it for progression.

(in sunbreak, splashing a single level of bloodlust is really easy and also enables some other cool skills, so it's not so much "make a gore magala frenzy build" as it is "your build also just happens to have frenzy on it")

[red gazelle]

Ye sorry I keep forgetting the other titles

Tbf I’m not that far I’m like Hr 42

[desert light]

It's a fine starting point then

[red gazelle]

I’ve been using it and it’s super fun

[brave hazel]

Yeah just being able to proc Frenzy at will is good on its own, so having just two bits is nice

Four is excessive tbh

[dark juniper]

Why are jewels such a pain to get

Sophia (She/Her) | The Labrynth Princess ↩️

[Reply to:](#1164963928531533855 message) We're probably gonna spend tomorrow just grinding out a lot of the HR decos 😔 📎

[dark juniper]

Why is there a third hit of spiral thrust that the game just doesn't tell you about

[dark juniper]

...and why is it so hard to hit 😔

[hollow comet]

i'm glad rajang has really good hitzones so one of us will die really fast

one of the hardest fights i had in world, but it wasn't too bad in GU after i learned how to dodge the triple blanka ball

it helps that the first one overshoots you if you're close

[candid perch]

Raaaah
https://youtu.be/qdGbpbC3pyQ?si=emUOBGF6nNAeDkxZ

[hollow comet]

gonna give wilds another shot today; will level up my armour and see if i can't take down some 8* or 9*

then it might be deco crafting time in rise, and/or putting together some sets

[hollow comet]

almost got 9* lagi down first try, died for the third time in the underwater section 😔 idk how to do that

turns out fighting it a bunch in GU while making the DBs has helped me learn the moveset a bunch at least

[hollow comet]

had a genuinely great time playing multiplayer with randos doing 9* quests

it was much less intense than playing solo, a nice change of pace

I would like to get to the point where I can solo 9*s (I failed the lagi a couple times more), but it's tough taking 60-80% from decently common attacks when Divine Blessing didn't proc. the fight was really fun though because there's a sense of tension and risk now, and dodging attacks is worthwhile now ; I just wish the damage was just a little lower

gotta raise my thunder res I guess

[hollow comet]

got one Critical Boost deco down, and IG has hopped onto the weapon carousel 😭

tbf it was the easiest way I had to deal with apex rathalos (other than bringing a bunch of flashes I guess)

[balmy swan]

underwater section's a bit of a pain in the butt, from what i can tell the strat seems to be 1) drop ruins on Lagi to stun it 2) get weapon attacks in between its moves 3) pepper it with slinger shots when the first two don't apply

mostly works out fine though for some reason my partner and i struggle with it when we're playing duo

[hollow comet]

tyty

[brave hazel]

God

You know who I pray gets added to Wilds someday

Kulu Ya Ku

I want my silly boy back

[balmy swan]

Return The Chicken 🐔

[hollow comet]

🪨

[red gazelle]

I just tried fighting tempered gore and got my ass handed to me

I thought it would be similar to normal gore

[potent kraken]

Use the sos, fighting that thing is no joke

[red gazelle]

I was the sos

4v1 and I got decimated

Fucker is faster and stronger

[potent kraken]

Which weapon were you goin with?

[red gazelle]

Greatsword

Gore single-handedly is making me consider using dual bldes

[potent kraken]

Use something with a shield imo. HBG, GL. Stay near the rear legs iirc

[red gazelle]

Chargeblade?

[potent kraken]

If the shield is charged

[red gazelle]

Alr

[potent kraken]

Enjoy

[red gazelle]

Sorry for the late reply and thanks

Im not struggling with the normal one

Only with tempered

[potent kraken]

Do not worry

[potent kraken]

Yeah it’ll use hunters like ping pong balls

[red gazelle]

Is it like actually faster

Or is that just my impression?

[potent kraken]

I do not know. I play GL. I do not pay much attention to speed

[red gazelle]

Ah dang

So you just hunker down?

[potent kraken]

I hold up a shield and whenever I do not hear “donk” of a monster hitting my shield I start stabbing or start a full combo or wyvernblast. The other times I play DB which is just “dodge if you see movement” or HBG which is a lot of “I am a tank. Try me”

[red gazelle]

I am thinking Abt trying dual blades

They always look fun and it would be a nice change of pace for gs

[potent kraken]

Do Lalabarina DB, shit’s good

[hollow comet]

DBs are really fun yeah

[red gazelle]

Rn I’m kinda obsessed with gore magala

The dopamine I get from just pummelling it is nice

Idk why

[hollow comet]

i should try wilds gore again

[red gazelle]

I love the eclipse effect it does or well just when everything goes dark

[hollow comet]

i had my brightness settings at the extremes which makes the lighting look really good and varied, but I had to tone it down because I could NOT tell what lagiacrus was doing at nighttime

[hollow comet]

yeahhhh same!

[red gazelle]

Also it’s armor is peak

[hollow comet]

but it was a bit much, similar to the nighttime

[red gazelle]

Like the frenzy effect

[red gazelle]

Oh

[hollow comet]

with my tweaked settings maybe i can tell what it does now lol

it's a bummer because the lighting looks a little more bland and flat now, but gameplay comes first

[red gazelle]

I don’t have a clue what it’s doing most of the time because unlike every other monster I’ve fought it goes from resting to darting at you

Like it’s worse than world nargacuga imo

Also flash pods don’t work

😔

[hollow comet]

3 risen chameleos later 😌 now my poison builds can do a bit more poison

[full sage]

ooh, neat
it's very funny, because builds that happen to use poison, but aren't going all in on poisonmaxxing tend to use this, because increasing "the amount of poison buildup you inflict with each hit" isn't actually all that effective in increasing DPS, as the increased thresholds each time get so high that you don't get many more poison procs.
...but "making poison last twice as long, and thus deal twice as much damage per poison proc" is quite literally doubling the damage poison deals, which is a significant damage increase

so it's very very funny on weapons like the flaming espinas weapons or the lucent nargacuga weapons which just so happen to have a little poison on top of a good statline for other reasons

the level 1 and 2 benefits are just cherries on top.

[hollow comet]

good to know :D

I'll use these with my lucent LS and IG

it seems like I'll have to get around the low white and purple with sharpness skills or a Grinder build 🤔

aaaaand I guess I can start working on SnS sometime

that can wait until later! enough WIP builds on my hands as is

[full sage]

grinder (and probably heavensent) is the niche that makes the lucent nargacuga stuff pretty fun and unique compared to other weapons!

...no idea how viable it is for anything other than sns, since I haven't looked into it, but the concept is there.

[hollow comet]

yeah, it seems like a cool niche :D

just need to play well enough to have heaven-sent up 🙂‍↕️

easier said than done

[full sage]

simply invest in intrepid heart, you probably wanted it anyways for powder mantle

heaven sent itself also gives you a solid chunk of damage reduction, on top of the infinite stamina, sharpening and debuff cleanse on switch skill swap, infinite sharpness...

it's really comfy.

[hollow comet]

oh that's awesome, will do

alrightyyy, gotta get

1. rathalos mantle for risen teostra helm
2. anomaly gore for intrepid heart deco
3. amatsu for some heaven-sent

next session is cut out for me 😌

[full sage]

depending on your tastes, either the level 1 or the level 2 deco for intrepid heart will do, as both grant the knockback protection necessary.

[hollow comet]

gotchaa

the level 1 deco seems to need AR201+ materials, but I'm only at 173

[full sage]

there's a sliding scale of "comfort to sheer power at a cost" at the top end of sunbreak, and heaven sent variants are among the comfiest.

what platform are you on, by the way, and do you only solo hunt?

[hollow comet]

I'm on pc, and I'm up for hunting with others! ^_^

[hollow comet]

I just saw Mail of Hellfire and that tracks

[full sage]

you can put yourself on like, 3 different kinds of Active Health Drain at once

that's... probably actually not a great idea, you probably only want one, or two if you're using berserk
but there's a lot of Power at a Cost going on

[hollow comet]

trying to play Berserk and getting Bloodblighted is a little scary

it's very swingy

[full sage]

you see, you stack berserk and bloodlust, so the health recovery you get from clearing frenzy refills your HP from berserk

...it also helps playing solo if you have healing followers/cats, or if you're in a situation in which blood rite works, etc.

it letting you use Strife is especially fun.

it's just neat to have different options for different hunts.

[dark juniper]

What does embolden do?

Dani (they/she) ↩️

[Reply to:](#1164963928531533855 message) aaaaand I guess I can start working on SnS sometime 📎

[full sage]

embolden is a skill that improves your defensive properties when the monster is targeting you, primarily used as bonus levels of Guard

it also raises defense a bit while active

...by defensive properties, I mean it straight up works as extra levels of Guard and Evade Window, (+1/3/5 by skill level, stacking with the actual skills)

...evade window caps at 5 though.

Especially notable for Lance, I think maybe Heavy Bowgun, and Sword and Shield.

[dark juniper]

So level 3 of it is free level 5 guard and evade window if you are playing solo?

[full sage]

Sword and Shield can use Embolden to make the shield actively worth using, which means you can Guard Slash into Perfect Rush attacks you wouldn't have been able to otherwise

well, it's not free, you had to pay 3 levels of a different skill for it, but yeah

lance's innately stronger shield means that you don't need as many combined levels of guard and embolden, but it is pretty nice to have

,,,i think people generally don't need embolden on lance at the upper end of things, since 3-4 levels of Guard is easy enough to get, and also doesn't randomly turn off

but it's a godsend for making sword and shield sword and shield, rather than sword and blunt force trauma instrument

...then again, having effectively 10 levels of guard on the strongest shield already in game might appeal to some folks, especially those who wanted to use lance in the first place, so like, if that's what makes you happy, it is really funny.

[hollow comet]

mhm! that's something i'm really appreciating rise for

[hollow comet]

what platform are you on? not sure if you missed my answer

[hollow comet]

ahh true

I still get hit a bit too often to make Berserk comfortable, but maybe dodgebolt will help

[full sage]

I'm unfortunately only on switch

[hollow comet]

gotcha

[hollow comet]

first 9* soloed 😌

an interesting reward

never bounce again

[hollow comet]

quite a lagi night

got 2 hyper lagis down, just need a mantle and some more hyper shells (probably from astalos), and the DBs are done

for Rise, AR 201 is going to be a bit of a long-term goal - guess I'll do anomaly, and if I'm not in the mood for the assigned monster, I'll do Amatsu and Rathalos and whatever else I need for my builds

it's very interesting to see how differently I play each of the games I have

[full sage]

i do occasionally miss gu
i considered playing through it again in a new file, but then quickly recalculated and just decided to just hunt various things in g rank for fun

[hollow comet]

very reasonable

[full sage]

i wanted to experience my favorite fight in the franchise again, not gather mushrooms ...

[hollow comet]

yeahhh

I'm really glad I got an organic experience of it once, but I probably won't fully replay it for a loooong time

maybe 20+ years? I'm satisfied with just hunting monsties and making builds, plenty more to do there lol

not to mention that I already tend to stick to 1 save file in most games I play, and that's increased tenfold with MH

[full sage]

i spent a very long time with generations, was really disappointed when it looked like we weren't getting gu, and then was pleasantly surprised by the unexpected English release on the switch

[hollow comet]

😌

[full sage]

hundreds and hundreds of hours in that cross platform save

[brave hazel]

Weapon contest winners are getting revealed week after next right?

[daring current]

It's tradition.

[hollow comet]

raging brachy ,,.,., 😔 (world)

[hollow comet]

i really don't have any idea what to do :(

[mystic cape]

In what regard?

[hollow comet]

i'm getting slapped around a ton and not able to do much back

maybe i should look for safe spots in attacks

probably better to stay close than to run away, that helped in GU

[mystic cape]

Raging Brachy is basically a more aggressive and higher damage Brachy so tricks for fighting Brachy should apply

What weapon are you using?

[hollow comet]

LS

[dark juniper]

Consider:

https://tenor.com/view/mh3rd-gif-25319835

Also we were looking for lance gifs and found this adorable thing

https://tenor.com/view/monster-hunter-mhgu-monster-hunter-generations-ultimate-mhgen-monster-hunter-generations-gif-26421926

[daring current]

what do you play on?

[hollow comet]

pc

urghh, this hunt was going well but i made mistakes and they hurt 😔

i think i know hammer better in world, so maybe i'll give that a try

[mystic cape]

Then yes, you want to stay close so you can get the counters off. Just remember that attacks can leave the exploding puddles which explode faster when Enraged and you can change the angle of Foresight to take you a but futher away. Might miss the counter hit but it's better than getting exploded/Blast Blighted/both.

[hollow comet]

it just feels like a huge wall, although I am a bit rusty

[daring current]

https://youtu.be/S-V6Z-vWfgc?si=F_ydfktDkvSzZahb

good news (joke)

[hollow comet]

[daring current]

im someone who beat Raging Brachy with greatsword so ik the pain

[hollow comet]

i salute you

[mystic cape]

I beat him with LS enough times to make the LS and a few armor pieces for the end game set before getting to the final Title Update Monster (not to mention needing to change my entire build for the second to last title update monster)

[hollow comet]

i think I'll take a break for now and come back later in the week

my last attempt lasted longer, but I don't think I was close to final phase

wish i had mushroomancer

could make armour for it instead i guess

[hollow comet]

just watched a bit of this and maybe i need to upgrade my armour a bit lol

this player has 1100+ def and I probably only have 800-850, though I think my velk pieces are maxed out (without GL mats to limit break)

so maybe they took def boost

[mystic cape]

Why are you using Velk pieces that late into the game?

[hollow comet]

i really struggle with understanding world’s gear progression

i guess i can pick a set from lower down the list to make

[mystic cape]

Yeah typically you replace gear you make from a monster with gear you make from later monsters (with exceptions to make certain skill comboes work)

Plus the armor unlock to amp the defenses as high as possible

If you need Spiritvein gems the Nergi event quest should be up and that drops quite a few

[hollow comet]

at a glance that looks locked behind MR 100

but yeah, I'll upgrade my armour when I get back to it

I've stuck with the armour I have because of the skills, but it's not worth having AB4 if i'm dead

[hollow comet]

I JUST ROLLED INTREPID HEART ON MY AMATSU PANTS

[full sage]

oh, nice

[hollow comet]

don't need to wait for AR201

played my first hunt with grinder + heaven-sent

fun times, although I need to get hit less 🙂‍↕️

farming some HR Almudron and Rakna for wex decos

[twin ibex]

Oh boy...

Oh my gog.

[mystic cape]

https://youtu.be/ca1iBhq-C90?si=-PUxowNgqsNCMHKh

Prepare to lose your frickin' minds

[halcyon fractal]

HUNTER

BE AWARE OF YOUR STARBOARD AND LARBOARD

[void narwhal]

THE BIG BOY

THE GOOPY

wow sounds real godzilla-y on non-3DS speakers

[halcyon fractal]

THE FUCK

GOG?

I DIDN'T SEE HIM

GOG MY BOYYYYYY

[void narwhal]

once again proving the Oil Ocean Zone an absolute nightmare to live in

[naive elk]

love when Crossovers just add mechanics from other games into MH

GOGMAZIOS????

HOLY SHIT

wow

now i really want to play Wilds

since i learned what Gogmazios was i've wanted to fight it

[snow helm]

Awww booooooo only one weapon seems to be coming with Omega, like how Behemoth only had the insect glaive

[teal halo]

MERRY CHRISTMAS DROWN IN TAR

[hollow comet]

dark knight

[balmy swan]

So lowkey this is ||the first elder dragon in Wilds||, yeah?

[mystic cape]

Pretty much

Since ||Gore Magala doesn't count by technicality|| but this also raises questions

[snow helm]

Gore not counting is a real weird one, I guess the point there being Gore is comparatively common vs other elders

But that is kind of bizarre considering its previous treatment

[balmy swan]

I guess the logic is that Shagaru is the "true" elder, so Gore as a juvenile is just a "demi-elder"

[dark juniper]

wat

Aquaesque ↩️

[Reply to:](#1164963928531533855 message) So lowkey this is ||the first elder dragon in Wilds||, yeah?

||Y’all don’t have any elders?||

[snow helm]

Wilds deliberately had no Elders on launch, since they felt that World had been too Elder heavy plot and ecology wise

[dark juniper]

We see

[snow helm]

That said, some of Wilds monsters probably could count

Arkveld is a flying Wyvern but is really up there power wise, as are all the apexes (especially Jin)

[daring current]

Well ||Gore is officially a Demi Elder||

[snow helm]

I mean, I suppose by definition the juvenile form can't be an elder

[mystic cape]

Apexes and Arkveld are holding the mechanical roll that Elders had in World where they're the end game farm system for decos

[daring current]

im just excited to see the potential Turf War between ||Gogmazios and Nu Udra||

[balmy swan]

The "elder dragon" taxon has always been a kludge for "we don't know what this is" anyway

And the Magalas have a bit extra of that going on bc of their unusual life cycle and how info about them got slowly discovered over time

[snow helm]

Yeah, I've been wondering particularly if, if they ever bring it back, Nakarkos would get shuffled as a Cephalopod instead

[rich valve]

||zoh shia|| is also pretty much only not an elder via technicality

[rich valve]

fucked up that they let xeno'jiiva be an "elder" when it was literally just born

[desert light]

Gore is a demi elder - on it's way too becoming an elder, but not yet qualifying

[desert light]

One of the big qualifications for Elder is danger level - xenojiva had gore thoroughly beat on that

[rich valve]

both I and I also believe the person i was replying to were making a joke based on how they're literally called "old dragons"

[desert light]

Ah

[balmy swan]

"elder dragon", because it's unprofessional to say "F U C K"

[mystic cape]

Elder Dragon, because calling the monster "FUCKING BULLSHIT" doesn't work in conference settings where the research project investors are listening

[graceful snow]

I recovered my Freedom Unite save lol

[brave hazel]

HOLY FUCK GOG IS BACK

I AM POGGING SO MF HARD

Wait no actually I am GOGGING

[red gazelle]

Got my ass handed to me royally by tempered nu udra

Like how is the arch tempered fish easier than some random squid

[brave hazel]

Oh yeah the weapon contest winners are getting revealed here soon, aren't they?

Oh shit yeah, two days from now

Not sure that the glass greatsword is gonna win tbh, greatsword's already getting a special weapon come December

I hope the Wild Explorers pendant wins

[red gazelle]

Just met the probably worst hunter in my whole time playing mh and I don’t mean skill

Like I was using a greatsword with sleep and I made the monster sleep twice and twice did the hunting horn user wake it up with a normal attack

[balmy swan]

Sleep and wakeups tend to be very hit and miss with randoms

I'd assume many people either don't know how the mechanics work, or just don't notice and realize that they need to stop attacking

[frank epoch]

Is that the first time you've seen that happen?

[red gazelle]

Yes

[red gazelle]

It literally says on the screen the monster is sleeping

Like 😭

[frank epoch]

Damn, count yourself lucky then. Happens all the time to me lmao

[red gazelle]

And they like don’t even apologise

Like 😭

[frank epoch]

It's why I rolled a non-sleep Artian GS just because I got tired of it

[balmy swan]

Assuming the average person has situational awareness 😛

[red gazelle]

It’s a hunting horn player

They don’t lack awareness

Like I got buffed and healed when I needed

[brisk dirge]

Most of the time people just don't care about sleep
And/or don't notice fast enough

[balmy swan]

Okay yeah I got nothing there

[red gazelle]

The monster has a whole falling animation and like it was in Zoh Shia

Not some small one

[balmy swan]

But yeah this is why I don't really fw sleep in SOS hunts

[brisk dirge]

Coordinating a wakeup attack also isn't even always better than just attacking through the sleeping and waking up animation

[balmy swan]

On my own or playing in voice chat with my partner, sure

[brisk dirge]

But yeah, this will happen if you run sleep wity random people

[balmy swan]

The average SOS party just doesn't have the coordination for it

[red gazelle]

I had two mega barrel bombs and an artian greatsword like everyone else in the group had weapons that don’t deal much damage quickly

Two hunting horns and one sword and shield

[red gazelle]

Ye so I’ve come to the conclusion people just don’t care however I don’t care either since it’s their loss not mine

After a hunt where people didn’t care and died to like the easiest attacks

[brave hazel]

Nobody fucking understands the concept of sleep bombing anymore, if ever they did

It was bad enough in World but it's such a goddamn problem in Wilds where people just wail away at the monster and wake it up with some random dual blades blip or a lance poke

[void narwhal]

Yeaaah, the game's general pace increasing over the years seems to have limited folks' patience for it

[hollow comet]

got raging brachy down with no faints!! thanks to the moral support of @upbeat apex

I practiced Brachy and Raging Brachy a bit with Guild LS in GU when I was out of town lol

got a brachy mantle (but not raging 😔 )

[brave hazel]

Oh shit, Omega's coming on Monday

I thought the crossover was in December

Color me pleasantly surprised

[teal halo]

No that’s when our lord and savior Gogmazios arrives

[graceful snow]

https://bsky.app/profile/lowpolyrobot.bsky.social/post/3lzq3uj6xnc2h

A Low Poly Robot (@lowpolyrobot.bsky.social)

Weapon concepts for MH1 are so funny bc of the sheer ambitiousness and weirdness of some of these

some of these are used in concept with existing weapon types but the detail at the time is so fun. The only sadness with even fun games iterating on themselves a lot is the loss of weirder ideas...

Bluesky · Sep 26, 2025, 8:56 AM

[brave hazel]

Huh

Apparently the glass greatsword won the weapon design contest

...kinda wish something else had, since GS is already getting a collab weapon come December

[outer heron]

i can't believe we almost got a boom hammer as a standard weapon type...

[halcyon fractal]

😭

impact axe come homeeeee

[hollow comet]

i wonder how i can find lobbies running safi

joined the most populated lobby i found, and no one joined or was doing it

might try the region unlock and searching specifically for safi lobbies? idk

[mystic cape]

When searching for lobbies there should be an option for a specific monster as one of the filters

[desert light]

Oh hey, Glass GS won the design content, i am ah appy greatsword main

[hollow comet]

ooooh ok

i don't play online much, ty for the info

[mystic cape]

I don't usually bother either, I just knew this from when I famred Kulve and later Safi

[hollow comet]

real

[desert light]

Patch is out

[hollow comet]

ooh, will give it a shot tmrw!

got safi down today, it was a very different experience from how i normally play mh

[halcyon fractal]

GORO MAJIMA?

[brave hazel]

KIRYU-CHAN!

[stiff dust]

https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/2246340/view/544495527868236777?l=english urgghhh

[desert light]

an oof, but unsurpsing

[naive elk]

damn

[daring current]

Good lord i fucking hate ||Omega Planetes||

[potent kraken]

It continues with “update your graphics drivers” “the player systems are outta wack, not our game”

[balmy swan]

welp

[hollow comet]

😭

[balmy swan]

i was watching a streamer react to the TU3 presentation, and when Tsujimoto did the whole "please be patient and bear with us" bit the streamer was like "i hope that people aren't being mean to them"

and i just had a moment of, oh honey

the complaints are valid, but it's basically a law of the internet that at a certain critical mass of people, someone is being an asshole about it

[eager anchor]

my discord wasn't caught up but yeah she's the best

https://youtu.be/2Xz_xUI44Io

this is so cute and silly i hope we get another MHportable that has a lighthearted ending like this again

[hollow comet]

i wish i knew how to play it

someday i’ll learn

[hollow comet]

it definitely threw me for a loop, but it’s very whimsical in a good way

immediately after slaying valstrax to this

[full sage]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpFsNeubnug

the base game had this as the ending of village

(the song in this one, TraBelna, also has an official japanese version, rather than the monster hunter language version that plays in game)

[twilit granite]

Are there any mods that let me layer the akuma armor? I wanna use the moveset but not be forced to look like him

[brave hazel]

Oh for the love of fuck why does this thing need TWO COMMISSION TICKETS

At this point I'm half tempted to get an item spawner solely to give myself a second ticket