Monster Hunter

[vocal haven]

(also my kjar are very unupgraded except the augment and even then)

[naive elk]

i'm going to be running Kjarr dual blades with custom upgrades and augments is the idea

need to farm out augment materials and custom upgrade mats from guiding

i'm like, 2 custom upgrades deep out of like 6 rn

need to hunt a viper tobi atm iirc

[vocal haven]

I should do that but had no drive to farm guiding lands materials beyond hunting monsters

[naive elk]

fair

[vocal haven]

i am only like 2 upgrade deep aswell

[naive elk]

no augments yet cause i haven't really fucked with guiding lands yet

honestly

probably the optimal thing to do for me rn would be grinding out mr 100

[vocal haven]

Its prob almost to safe but I enjoy it. Biggets note is I run Health regain augment but thats also only at like first stage

[naive elk]

i'm at like, 60 rn iirc

i run health boost and speed eating

divine blessing 3 as well

very comfy stuff

not super optimal but i'm not super good at dodging so i like to not die

by using QoL skills

[vocal haven]

with recovery up this high even at health augment 1 you regain way more health then you lose

[naive elk]

ic ic

maybe i will do a safi build then

do you just get safi mr mats from the siege?

cause i'll have to wait for a while to get safi armor in that case

it's currently on Kulve

[vocal haven]

I did it with friends and we just did sieges ye. For safi like modding the mats I would prob also do if solo or due to the week rotation

The most annoying thing personally I think to get is safi wings xd. WIth friends we did just runs all running ranged weapons shooting at them

[naive elk]

i don't really need safi mats for anything but armor

unless some of the augments for normal weapons need them or smthn

i'm not going to use Safi weapons cause Kjarr DB's from kulve are literally BIS for every element except Dragon

[vocal haven]

ye

[naive elk]

and i have the Kjarr ice and Kjarr Rage so i'm basically set

since the next monster is literally Alatreon

i don't need anything but those two

[mystic cape]

Well, assuming you break the horns you only need the Ice one for the special assignment

[vocal haven]

the only other one that is usefull is kjar dragon for fatty unless you want the alatreon dbs to use

[naive elk]

we're doing the special assignment so Ice is the one i am focusing on

but i have both if i want to fight Alatreon for mats

idk that i need better dragon dbs

[mystic cape]

IIRC the monster after Alatreon is where you get the best dragon DBs, but I could be thinking of that weird raw DBs build instead.

[naive elk]

Nah Fatty is raw

[vocal haven]

i think ye. The only exception might be if you wanna run safi then its maybe the kjar one but the difference are like i think not really worth thinking about if you are ok without being ultra opti

[naive elk]

Idk if fatty db even is best for raw since I've never used em

Always mained lightbreak

[heady stone]

Isn't Fatty best for everything?

[naive elk]

The armor sure

Weapons obv can't be BIS for weapons like db

[outer heron]

best raw though

[naive elk]

Because DB and for instance bow are ele

[outer heron]

beats out lightbreak on everything except uhhh

a gun?

but guns are a bit different

[naive elk]

I have never beaten fatty so i never worried about its weapons

I think it's kind of hilarious how hard fatty armor crushes everything else

[frank epoch]

Kinda makes sense since it's like, The Big Last Update

[naive elk]

Yeah true

But it's just like, so comically BIS

[visual lava]

Alatreon is definitely the best elemental LBG, I remember that much

HBG it depends on your ammo

Like Sticky uses the Rajang (or furious? can't remember)

(also I miss non-ele boost. Would actually give you a reason to make a raw Artian)

[naive elk]

Elementless my beloved

[hollow ravine]

Jin Dahaad filtering these people hard

Like what do you mean I can only finish this fight alone or with NPC hunters and never with actual players

[frank epoch]

https://cdn.steamusercontent.com/ugc/34445928210710754/15D05D2333D95DE50964E2C879BA7FB8DF4ACB05/

The monsters simply don't get to play the game

[graceful snow]

Is there anything unlocked at HR200 in Wilds?

[frank epoch]

some titles

beyond that i don't think so

[brave hazel]

Vaguely considering getting my guy commissioned again, what greatsword do y'all think would pair best with this armor set

[visual lava]

Wyvern Impact (no I'm totally not biased)

[hollow comet]

fish

[brave hazel]

True, but I mean besides Wyvern Ignition

So far I'm thinking just the basic Steel Blade, maybe

Er, Steel Sword rather

[visual lava]

Personally I've always liked the Buster Sword if you're going for a more generic look

at least for the metal ones

[brave hazel]

Eh, idk, something about the Buster Sword just kinda puts me off

...might be because every other fucking greatsword in World was "Buster Sword with X Monster Parts taped to it"

That absolutely is the reason come think of it, World just soured me on the basic Buster Sword design

Which is a shame because it's genuinely a very good sword design

[visual lava]

Yeah the bolt on parts definitely sucked

[brave hazel]

I'm indescribably happy that they didn't do that for Wilds

[visual lava]

same

What about Lightbreak Blade? (Raging Brachy)

[brave hazel]

That was absolutely one of the worst parts of World, was how like half the weapons roster was "Basic design but X"

[brave hazel]

Hm, maybe

I am fond of Lightbreak Blade's design

...tbh the more I think about it, the more I lean towards a larger Steel Sword...

Idk why but I really fucking like its design and it pairs really well with the outfit

But at the same time, I kinda wanna go for something more distinctive...

[visual lava]

Lightbreak is fairly unique and it glows like Bazel stuff. Dunno if the color palettes match exactly though, but the artist can just make them match anyways

[brave hazel]

Aye

[frank epoch]

dragonslayer my beloved

[brave hazel]

Eh, too recognizable

[stiff dust]

artian longsword has no sheathe which makes the special sheathe animation uh. a little awkward. what were they cooking

[visual lava]

I mean, remember the scythe longswords?

[brave hazel]

God, yeah

Or the halberd ones

[visual lava]

ooooh, what about the Teostra Blade? If you're not restricting it to World.

[brave hazel]

This is from Rise

And maybe? Does look vaguely cheap to me, somehow, I'm not sure why.

I think it's because its guard is all hammered out of a single piece of metal

...shit, wait, maybe the Jawblade?

Distinctive enough without being instantly recognizable, not terribly ostentatious but not terribly plain, cool as hell

[visual lava]

I actually love the Jawblade

I just thought you wanted a metal-y one

[brave hazel]

Eh, I'm not limiting myself to metal

[brave hazel]

It does look really odd, yeah

At least with the max level one you can kinda imagine it as the "sheathed" mode being the powered down mode?

But even then it still looks awkward

[visual lava]

tbh, I don't mind it

I actually like how you don't have a sheath on your back, but I guess it depends on your fashion

The ones I like less are actually when you just have a tiny dinky thing as a "sheath", like the fulgur anja one.

[brave hazel]

Eh, at least with the tiny sheathe you have something to slide it into for the animation

[lone citrus]

I don't understand bows in wilds

They feel kinda weak

Like I'm doing half the damage I feel like I should be doing

Is it my fault for using blast bow lol

[visual lava]

if you're using power shot, you need to be right next to the monster

and use close range coating or power coating

[lone citrus]

So that's it, use power?

Ok I guess

[real zodiac]

I am kinda sad we inherited the world weapons from the two returning in high rank

And that those are still bolt ons

[brave hazel]

Those being?

[void narwhal]

squints at ||Odogaron||

[visual lava]

fulgur anja?

idk about all the doggo weapons, but the DB have their unique design

They kinda get a pass from me since they're the only ones, which still gives them a unique look (in this game)

[real zodiac]

Fulger and odo

[brave hazel]

Fulgur definitely has that taped on issue, yeah

Odo has it a little less though, which is nice

[real zodiac]

Odo's lance is a direct lift from worlds, where it was a bolt on

I guess it's less egregious in wilds where it's kinda

Novel?

[brave hazel]

Yeah, given that particular lance design doesn't exist within Wilds

...far as I know anyway

[empty raft]

Playing world some more

Man I feel so insane for not liking fighting the raths lmao

They’re like beloved staples of the series and they’re just pure suffering for me

[outer heron]

you're not insane, you just have unusually good taste

[empty raft]

:3

Honestly I would love rathian if she charged just… slightly less…. Please

[balmy swan]

ah yes, the rath run

[empty raft]

They feel like they were designed as like

Microcosms of the game

But it means in reality imo they have… way too much going on

[mossy meteor]

I hate hate HATE that rathian run where she just ambles forward three times in a row and does a knockback that sends you flying straight into the next charge

[outer heron]

runnies are notorious, yep

[mossy meteor]

Second only to the "diagonal backflip" move that comes out at Mach 3

[outer heron]

oh, that has a very telegraphed start

that's why the actual move is fast

[mossy meteor]

Well shoot maybe I'm blind then. Is it the rear back thing?

[outer heron]

there's a lashing flick for a couple seconds before she does it

yeah

pulls back a bit, tail whips around, muscles tense, then she does the spinning tail swipe

[mossy meteor]

I'll keep an eye out for that, thanks! It always catches me completely off guard, guess I've been looking for a tell on the wings/legs.

[empty raft]

Tbh I just fuck off whenever she’s in the air

I ain’t even trying to hit her til she lands

[mossy meteor]

Any of the raths eat 6 flash pods a fight until I get the wings broken. Get on the ground creature

[outer heron]

i'm gunlance

new spell

10000 flashbangs until you die

[weak gulch]

I've picked up on the Rath moveset over time, but it still gets unplesant fast when they start spamming/comboing moves.

[brave hazel]

You aren't, rathalos is a massive fucking pain in the ass

Believe it or not he used to be WORSE

Wind pressure rathalos was a goddamn nightmare and I'm glad I don't have to put up with it in new gen

[teal halo]

no self respecting hunter would dare think about going outside without slightly reducing the effects of minor wind pressure

[stray oriole]

I was brave I was tackling kushala without any windproof.

And by brave I do mean stupid.

Hard counter to kinsect, that shit was a nightmare fight

[mystic cape]

Cowards, real Hunters never slot in any defensive skills! VICTORY OR DEATH! rushes at Fatalis, dies instantly, I am remembered as a fool

[stray oriole]

Divine blessing my beloved

[real zodiac]

We do be maxing guard

[full sage]

finally, the weapon with shield in the name presses the block button

[brave hazel]

But a fool that could have dealt bukus of damage

[stray oriole]

It's easy, you got the sharp hand, and the bonk hand. and everything else is just style points.

[naive elk]

Meanwhile i'm over here with Speed eating, divine blessing, health boost, etc

Speed eating is almost a must have for me now ngl

Absolute hax skill

I can scoff a mega potion in approximately the same time it takes to eat a max or ancient

I no longer need antidote pills cause drinking a potion takes about the same time and is cheaper

[full sage]

on dual blades, the only defensive skills i slot in is intrepid heart because you can get it for extremely cheap, but embolden/guard together on sword and shield makes guard slash into instant perfect rush a lot more viable

[naive elk]

Honestly i've been running so much QoL i haven't slotted element jewels in any build until literally Alatreon in world

[desert light]

tbh though, with some tweaks, this is kinda hte right paproach. Monster hutner rewards damage in a crazy number of ways

like right now in Wilds, my defence to comfy is uh... Earplugs

otherwise HIT WITH BIG STICK. BIG NUMBY

MONSTER HAVE BIG REGRETS

[visual lava]

earplugs is secretly a damage skill after all, it just means you get to hit the monster more while it does its silly roar

[desert light]

and late game it's very possibel for am onster to do 3+ roars in a row

[balmy swan]

i keep forgetting that i can block roars now and trying (usually failing) to roll though them

[desert light]

You can perfect block them, specically

it's actually kinda fussy

[weak gulch]

I think Guard levels help reduce blocking knockback from roars? Unsure if it changed in Wilds.

[empty raft]

Oh hey artian armor was in other games, basically confirming that the game is set on the continent of Fonron and Wyveria is the ancient civ from previous games, not just a new thing

[naive elk]

i have Artian layered in World

also masters touch goes crazy ngl

not losing sharpness is really nice

this is like in Rise where i could just sharpen mid combat constantly with DB by dodging and using my bug points

whetstone? i have no idea what that is

[stiff dust]

what's bug points

[naive elk]

The insect string thing

I genuinely can never remember what it's called so they're bug points

wirebug

that's the bitch

iunno why my brain is so resistant to remembering wirebugs

i played 215.5 hours of rise btw

but yeah one of the wirebug skills fr DB was just like, sharpening your weapon and giving you sharpness when you dodge literally anything

so i straight up did not use the whetstone after i unlocked that skill

[weary charm]

late reply I would love to see the other weapons get this kind of treatment

[real zodiac]

Wirebugs were really fun

Gunlance got a sharpen on block wireskill

[teal halo]

Ok now that wilds is out I can give my thoughts. I think it’s fine. It’s good compensation for the materials from quest completion being so small in quantity, plus there’s some neat moves. 8/10 It’s quite nice

[outer heron]

huh, that's from a bit ago

i agree that the wounds granting a chunk of the monsters' drop rewards makes popping them feel rewarding

[outer heron]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1146319392473370645/1353396670519447674/RDT_20250318_092232.mp4

[desert light]

Also it's just very fun once you start mastering things like cancelling tcs recovery into a focus strike, letting you do another tcs

[snow helm]

Honestly I think it would be a much better mechanic if it wasn't quite as strong a CC tool against monsters

[desert light]

Almost certainly making another wind... Etc

Yeah, it's probably a little overturned there

[amber frost]

thats going into my voices of the void tv immediately

[outer heron]

heh

votv is such a good game

[teal halo]

Frends!

[teal halo]

That it is

[amber frost]

HELL YEAH, KINDRED SPIRIT

[snow helm]

I think it probably ought to have depreciating returns, like how they handled flash bombs in World

[teal halo]

There is a small space in my brain dedicated solely to arirals

[desert light]

I wouldn't be surprised if it gets tweaked come master rank

[snow helm]

I know that once I get a PC that can actually properly run Wilds and start playing it for real rather than just trying it out on my friends rigs I'll probably see if there are any mods available to tune it as it is

[snow helm]

I expect it probably will, yeah

It's just goofy that with how much CC you can dish out to monsters it almost feels like they can spend more time staggered or stunned than fighting, especially the lower level ones

[outer heron]

mm

[snow helm]

Fighting Chata can end up feeling cruel, even the first time

[teal halo]

What’s CC?

[outer heron]

i wouldn't even say only the lower ones

[outer heron]

crowd control

[teal halo]

Ok was just making sure

[outer heron]

chatacabra and quematrice just do not get to exist

tempered 5* quematrice just sit on the ground and die

i really hope it gets an MR glow-up

or like

a variant species

[desert light]

It is, but like, I have a hard time being too upset honestly.

[outer heron]

(actually, real talk, i was shocked that quematrice was a fire monster after my first kill)

(and not a blast monster)

(considering its tail attacks throw out explosive powder for its fire attacks)

[snow helm]

Honestly a lot of the first tier of monsters can feel a bit like punching bag but this feels particularly rough for them

Like I would rather they be slow and easy to hit but still doing their thing rather than just standing/lying there

[outer heron]

the wound system is super cool, but it definitely needs to be less powerful

it's a 10/10 mechanic with a like

6-7/10 execution

even in single-player, it turns most hunts into animal cruelty

in multiplayer hunts, it's just bullying

[snow helm]

Like in Rise, which was already an easier game overall, monsters like Tetra were a cakewalk and easy to take almost no damage from but they still ran around and did their attacks

Well, when you were riding them in to walls repeatedly

[desert light]

I mean back in Tri I killed lr great jaggi with a low rank switch axe in thirty seconds once.

It literally didn't get to move off it's spawn point

[snow helm]

Fair cop

And I had a similar experience beating the crap out of Jagras with a hammer in world

[desert light]

Another time I finished a mission, then in the remaining sixty seconds found great jaggi and killed it before I went home

Still low rank, still with a low rank weapon (I didn't have access to online for high rank)

[snow helm]

But the wound CC extends to every level of monsters too

[desert light]

Ye. They'll tweak it I'm sure

[snow helm]

I do hope they do, and before MR

[desert light]

It's a much better execution of the concept of clutch claw wounding

[snow helm]

Ironically I feel like they should seriously consider a difficulty slider or even a full menu of difficulty sliders

It feels like all the criticism of wilds has been that the ease of combat has made it feel shallower/shorter than it might otherwise but I also get the idea that they didn't want to have any walls for brand new/more casual players who don't have time to play for hours on end

[outer heron]

max setting is: we have fed the monsters ketamine

[snow helm]

Definitely, wounding in world felt like a weird action tax almost

[outer heron]

well

iceborne

base world didn't have the wound system

[teal halo]

Clutch Claw felt weird to do tbh

It’s like mounting but not

[desert light]

I do miss slinger bursts though

Kinda wish they'd integrated the slinger with focus mode a bit more

[teal halo]

It also feels weird that there’s people who think that the clutch claw was the best thing MH has ever done and that they should go back to it. World Purists confuse me to no end

Yes they’re a thing yes I’ve interacted with them no you don’t want to

[outer heron]

there are a lot of cool things claw did

wallbangs were broken, but they were also one of them

another thing is like

[snow helm]

Ironically, after starting with world, I much Rise's wirebugs, at least in combat itself

Being able to zip around and reposition quickly felt like such a huge boost

[outer heron]

some of the mid-combo claw moves

which were neat

wirebugs felt good, but they're unfathomably broken

and i would prefer to never see them again

[snow helm]

I will admit, four hundred hours in World, I never quite mastered them

[outer heron]

the wirebug moves are just

so fucked

[snow helm]

But then I was a hammer/GS main

[outer heron]

i don't think GS had any claw moves

in any case, slinger burst is probably the best thing out of IB

well

and the monsters

but slinger burst was amazing for a bunch of moves

everything with it felt super fluid

glad slinger's back, but i'd like to see slinger burst on the sns and db stuff

[snow helm]

It makes me curious what they'll add in Wilds expansion

Because I'm not sure what they could add on to Focus/Wounds

[outer heron]

alt focus moves could be big

or just uh

weapon styles from gens lmao

[desert light]

Almost certainly alternate focus moves and a bit more emphasis on switching between modes of focus/no focus

[heady stone]

Certain weapons need overall improvements. Bowguns need more customisation (Recoil Reload Clip Size!), Hammer needs better Offset (Charged upswing offset would rock), swaxe needs more playstyle options sans FRS spam and a few weapons need better focus strikes

[snow helm]

It's kind of hilarious that Swaxe went from ZSD spam to FRS spam. I feel like the devs have an idea for it that's entirely built around charging some big final thing, rather than actually switching modes

[weak gulch]

Part of that may stem from weapons like Hammer that got a lot from Clutch Claw's added moves/utility. Hammer's claw attacks flowed really well.

[weak gulch]

I've heard that the Wilds/World devs seem to make Switch Axe have a sword/large attack focus, and the portable team wants more axe/sword swapping?

https://old.reddit.com/r/MonsterHunter/comments/1isuyyh/the_identity_crisis_of_switch_axe_is_due_to/

The "identity crisis" of Switch Axe is due to conflicting ideas on the weapon between the two dev teams

[lethal mirage]

I quite liked it in world and I'm quite liking it in wilds

The switch all the time I would enjoy considerably less

[outer heron]

the world/wilds playstyle of Press Exactly One Button certainly is not for me

[lethal mirage]

You have actually three!

[outer heron]

which is a shame, because I adore switch axe

visually and in other games

[lethal mirage]

Serious talk tho, I really like the new offset and the parry

Makes it way easier to keep the rotation going

Also, ideally you don't really spam it, because it eats your whole gauge up, and it's better to actually hit with the sword when charged and finish it off with the fsr

You maybe use it like thrice/four times per sword rotation

[outer heron]

nah

ideally you spam it with 100% uptime

if we're talking optimal damage contexts

you just charge with sword initially and then maintain that gauge forever

with FSR -> spinning crescent or whatever the axe move is called -> FSR because that gives you enough gauge to use it again back

[lethal mirage]

It does more damage when you fully charge it tho, and for that you need to fill the sword gauge

Spamming the light fsr is so boring

[outer heron]

spiral burst slash, that's what it is

yeah i'm not talking regular release slash

[lethal mirage]

Well, you have some decent sword gameplay to charge it, and you kinda want to have the sword mode very available because what the fuck is that parry window

[outer heron]

parry is an enigma to me

fucked up availability

[lethal mirage]

I was thinking it'd be like the foresight slash that is hard to hit

[outer heron]

ehhh, foresight slash is super generous

[lethal mirage]

But this has almost a whole second of parry window

[outer heron]

switch axe parry is p similar

but anyway, this is about what i'm talking about

for "optimal gameplay"

since you can FRS literally whenever you want

the input is open at any point during sword

it's obviously much more difficult to maintain good spacing for that in practice

but you want to just FRS -> spiral burst -> FRS -> spiral burst as much as possible

which is not what i want out of my "ideal" switch axe gameplay

[lethal mirage]

Yeah no, that's boring as fuck

[outer heron]

i prefer the strength of its dps to be spread throughout its kit, or in managing its sword and axe gauges

[lethal mirage]

Sword should hit harder

[outer heron]

but in iceborne it was just get sword gauge -> ZSD infinity times, made even more egregious by the fact that you could ZSD out of neutral claw

[lethal mirage]

And fsr usable only after half of the meter is depleted

[outer heron]

and in wilds, at least rn, it's get sword gauge -> FRS infinity times

i want ZSD to be slightly better, FRS to be slightly worse, more of the shift moves back, and better pivots/rewards for pivoting into axe

that aren't, y'know, spiral burst slash into immediate re-pivot because SBS gives you like 65% meter

[stiff dust]

as swaxe is in wilds i don't really get what role elemental discharge (the one where you don't hop on the monster) even serves when you just wanna spam frs

[outer heron]

basically none

[lethal mirage]

I'm a fan of axe being the mechanism to build up sword, so I'm ok with it

I usually full load elemental discharge into fsr for a quick swap back

If I know I can't do double fsr, I'll do that

[outer heron]

element discharge is a punishment/compensation for flubbing ZSD

and p much nothing else

its MVs are really low for its commitment and action time

MV/s is lower than standard sword combo iirc

[lethal mirage]

Zero sum is the charged one, correct?

[outer heron]

zero sum is the one where you hold down the button and latch onto the monster

[lethal mirage]

Oh I don't really use that one, because element can be comboed into fsr

But zsd jumps you back

[outer heron]

ZSD's got better MV/s than ED, but neither are very worth it in the current state of wilds

if you've got enough time for ED -> FRS, you probably have enough time for FRS -> spiral burst slash -> FRS

not always

but ime, it's relatively often

since you can just FRS out of neutral

which i was not aware of for my first week-ish of the game

[lethal mirage]

Oh yeah

[outer heron]

really hoping they adjust some stuff to load less of the budget towards FRS

because i like all of the greebly little moves SA gets

and i enjoy the assorted element dischargss

[lethal mirage]

I love the parry so much

It makes me play stupid just to parry shit

[outer heron]

i also like clicking FRS, but i want it to be just at the end of combos or something

[lethal mirage]

Same with the offset

[outer heron]

so its efficiency is lowered

and/or cut down on the ability to maintain gauge with a cycle of it and spiral burst

wilds has the bones of some incredible things

I'm just hoping to see some of the weapon linearity adjusted and some of the wound efficacy reduced

I've adored my time with it, though, broadly

and would happily recommend it to anyone that enjoys the genre

[plain gazelle]

hello im back i bought monster hunter world

i just killed the pukei pukei

I am enjoying myself with the gunlance

[glacial vale]

Gunlance is a great time

It's only gotten better with more recent releases, too

Well, I say "only" gotten better. They did take away Blast Dash after Rise, and it's a very understandable cut. But it's also

[lethal mirage]

I dislike that the normal gunlance with full burst got worse in iceborne

But I'm a normal shelling fan

[visual lava]

I mean they added so much new stuff to GL in Wilds though, including the mobile shelling or whatever you want to call it

I didn't realize full burst got worse in Iceborne; what changed?

[verbal copper]

hey the hunter tier 1 certificates, where do you get those?

[frank epoch]

Hunter Symbol 1?

If so, they're fron hunting tier 1 tempered monsters

[visual lava]

5* tempered hunts

[verbal copper]

Ahhh

they are the thing that I've got the least of

I kinda jumped right into the mid-boys

Showing up in full arkveld armour to beat the shit out of an angry frog

[naive tiger]

picked up generations ultimate recently

[frank epoch]

It's definitely my favorite monhun

[naive tiger]

It's been a long time but I found a tentative crew and I miss my beloved

SnS Shin Shoryuken

[visual lava]

I mean Wilds also has the Shoryu in the form of one of its Focus Strike finishers

[lone citrus]

it's not the same...

[lethal mirage]

The other kinds got way better

And fullburst didn't

[real zodiac]

Multiwyrmstake blast happened

And wyrmstake blast is basically just a full burst plus a wyrmstske, and then you can immediately do it again without reloading

[plain gazelle]

strange little thingy...

what armours do you guys recommend as an upgrade from the jagras stuff

[visual lava]

What point in the game are you at and what weapon do you use? You're playing through World?

[plain gazelle]

I'm playing through world, I use the gunlance and I just killed the barroth for the first time

[real zodiac]

Honestly, at that point you can kinda just go for whatever you want without stressing it

Gunlance wants a high amount of sharpness, but otherwise you needn't worry too much

[void narwhal]

Razor Sharp seems like a decent use of points for the ol' GL, though I feel like I've only had Dual Blades actually get to yellow sharpness in meaningful time

Oh World, nevermind this, though might be similar

[plain gazelle]

👍

I will go with whatever looks coolest

or more accurately whatever i can make

[desert light]

Ye, if you're low rank don't stress it

[weak gulch]

At High Rank and above, a Protective Polish jewel can help a lot with sharpness if you can find time to sharpen before aggro/mid-hunt.

[mystic cape]

Also in World shell damage is only affected by skills that specifically affect shell damage and not generic attack increases. So keep an eye out for Artillery armor and decorations.

[real zodiac]

Honestly in low rank i don't think it's really worth bothering with skills, at least in its first three quarters or so

[gentle knoll]

a common hint towards a need to change to better armor would be when you suddenly feel like you take notably more damage in a burst than you are used to, and this is after seeing a monster for the first time, is my conclusion

[snow helm]

Yeah, in Low Rank/the first bit of High Rank it's mostly about the defense than anything else because the skills are so long as it is they won't make a huge difference

Even on High Rank in World its kind of hard to advocate grinding for new gear because Master Rank comes around and makes you start, relatively, all over again anyway

[desert light]

Generally just grabbing some attack up early in world does wonders

[snow helm]

Yeah, if you want to gun for anything in low rank I would say the Rath armor is usually a good bet

The fire resist is also generally the most useful

[empty raft]

Jesus Christ Nergigante is a bastard

[desert light]

Nergi's a big ol aggression check

It basically punishes you for not keeping the heat on

[brave hazel]

Nergigante is one of the many walls of World

...well, one of three

[empty raft]

Anj, nergi, and?

[empty raft]

Am I supposed to break the white spikes

?

Or just hit them

[brave hazel]

One of the first MR monsters

You'll see when you reach it

...why am I being coy, Iceborne's been out for fucking six years now

Barioth. It's Barioth.

[real zodiac]

You need to break them before they turn black

[brave hazel]

Aye, bring something with Partbreaker slotted

[real zodiac]

Not a bad idea

Breaking the spikes prevents them from hardening and exploding. They will go back over time, but it's better than them hardening

[brave hazel]

Aye

Gunlance is surprisingly not half bad at partbreaking if you don't feel like learning hammer

SnS too with the shield bashes

[weak gulch]

Nergi hits terribly hard with a lot of reach, but has massive windup.

[brave hazel]

Only issue is that his biggest attack leaves you stunned for most of the windup, so you have a very small window to get out of the way for it, which tends to catch folks a lot

[desert light]

Yep, smash all the spines you can

If they harden to black, they get very idffuclt to destroy. If all his spines harden to black, he gets his usper move unlocked

(Which thankfully breaks all his spines, but unthankfulyl will probably cart you)

[vocal haven]

The super move does have a nice wind-up so you can Iframe dodge p reliable if you recognise the attack

[desert light]

Diving is also pretty reliable to survive it

[vocal haven]

(I forgot that diving is called diving lol xd)

[desert light]

Another good trick is just... carry farcasters

They're not that expensive to make, tehy're easy ot slot into a hotbar wheel, and they solve numerous problems

If it sucks, hit da bricks! Slam a farcaster! Get outta there!

[empty raft]

Yeah I survived his uhhhh

Superman punch

P reliably

[desert light]

Otherwise, you mostly just bonk him on the snoot

[empty raft]

I’m a greatsworder btw

/hbg

Kinda missing my beloved longsword and side eyeing lance

[brave hazel]

Lance is good if you want to sacrifice any semblance of fun combos in exchange for being a fortress on legs

[desert light]

BOOP THE SNOOT

Also greatsword is great into himl, sicne oyu can takcle a lot of his bullshit

[empty raft]

I’m not very good at tackling :¥

Weirdly enough I managed to guard his super move once

[desert light]

It's something you should practice, as it's a pretty major part of the moveset

[empty raft]

Weirdly enough I managed to guard his super move once

[naive elk]

My favourite thing to do with big moves is usually just dive for the i-frames

Farcaster will do you for basically anything

Cept Ecliptic Meteor, Escaton Judgement and Phase 3 Sapphire Star of the Emperor off the top of my head

Farcasts don't work for the latter two and Ecliptic is map wide so you will die no matter where you are unless it's behind cover or in the tent

[outer heron]

i don't believe you can farcast for fatalis's super move, either

[naive elk]

Yeah i don't think you can farcast at all during that fight

[outer heron]

you can at points

[naive elk]

Another "take cover or die" situation

Like Ecliptic Meteor and Phase 3 Sapphire Star of the Emperor

[vocal haven]

I really dont mind it for fatalis fight since its very much cinematic and cool

Star is also awesome enough where I can see past it

escaton judgement just doesnt look exciting and well yeh..

[naive elk]

oh yeah for sure

the thing is

Sapphire Star is, very easy to not die to

Fatty is the final boss so it being a fucker is an inbuilt expectation

for Escaton and Ecliptic Meteor it's less fun

because you can do everything right with Ecliptic Meteor and still have Behemoth break all your cover and just fucking die

and with Escaton it's just like, a damage threshold, it's very game-y

[vocal haven]

and escaton doesnt even look like cool or good. honestly might be my biggest gripe

[plain gazelle]

anjanth time

[plain gazelle]

anjanath dead

[plain gazelle]

rathian or rathalos?

[snow helm]

Rathalos, mostly just for the generic attack boost and weakness exploit

But it's not really worth it if you find Rathalos even a little aggravating to fight

[frank epoch]

Title update stream in about an hour!

[stiff dust]

:o

[outer heron]

oho

i wonder which of the eagerly-anticipated monsters we'll see

lagi? gog? seregios?

[eager anchor]

Gogmozios

Let me hear proof of a hero properly

Let me hit the dragonator

[glacial vale]

lagi or like

[eager anchor]

Its not fair that I haven't been permited by the guild to hit things with the biggest harpoondrillspike

[glacial vale]

My instincts say title update 1 with a monster they're being real tight lipped about means it will be an invader

Deviljho is the classic choice, Bagel would be slightly tiring World glazing

The chad option would be Seregios

[eager anchor]

New monster would be cool

[outer heron]

world glazing?? there are only two returners from world lmao

5.5 monsters from 1, 2 from dos, none from tri, 2 from 4, 2 from world

[glacial vale]

Maybe an excessive way of putting it

It's more just I personally think bagel would be the least interesting option

And I also say that as if jho isn't a nostalgia elemental, lmao

[outer heron]

if you want to use the word glazing, you can describe the whole franchise as rathalos glazing

but world's gotten the same treatment as dos here, and a(n entirely fair) lesser treatment compared to 4

since this is narratively pretty decisively a sequel to 4

[eager anchor]

Only issue is that it would be a great add because we are missing blast weapons for a few weapons

[outer heron]

actually, come to think of it

i'm pretty sure bazel was one of like

three? world monsters in rise, too

[vocal haven]

Agnaktor praydge. But they are prob only a real option as a full big dlc monsyer

[outer heron]

agnaktor would/will be neat

[vocal haven]

One of my faves for sure

[outer heron]

although, especially with mizu and the nebulous status of lagi

wilds is already the leviathan monhun

[vocal haven]

Nodders

[outer heron]

balahara, hirabami, jin dahaad, uth duna, mizu, maybe lagi

would be down for agnaktor as well

[vocal haven]

The absolute biggest pipe dream is ahtal kha.

[outer heron]

or gobul

but god that'd be a leviathan-heavy roster

[vocal haven]

I love globul but it might be weird without water combat altough the water forest could support it maybe

[outer heron]

it still kinda fucks me up that quematrice was fire and not blast

[vocal haven]

I guess the same is true for lagi and we def gonna get it trust

[outer heron]

its fire attacks are all spreading like

gunpowder shit from its tail

[eager anchor]

It will probably be a subspecies

[outer heron]

i want abyssal lagi...

[eager anchor]

You will get NOTHING

Plesioth!

ATTACK!

[outer heron]

i would also love to see new guardian forms as like

excuses for esoteric subspecies

guardian luminous gigginox...

bazelgeuse subspecies that does blastscourge + ice

[vocal haven]

Guardian diablos with bloodbath like moveset

Guardian crystal Goss Harag

[outer heron]

steam magnamalo

[vocal haven]

Ohh

[outer heron]

guardian catalyzed uragaan, that uses thunder instead of fire

[vocal haven]

Would love a cool new uragaan

Fcking crystal beard is so ass

[outer heron]

wouldn't mind a volvidon or arzuros, either

[vocal haven]

Guardian godqueen seltas

[outer heron]

tbh regular non-guardian seltas queen would fit snugly into the plains or forest

[vocal haven]

Seltas queen with like a pack of multiple seltas

[eager anchor]

Literally any Rise specific monster would rule

[outer heron]

i was very much not a fan of most of rise's roster

[eager anchor]

Please for the love of gog I want to fight malzenos again.

I think they were all incredibly monsterhunter monsters.

[outer heron]

i'd love lunagaron, goss harag, gaismagorm, magnamalo

[eager anchor]

Gaismagorm is kinda lame IMO

but thats because the fight was such a pushover

[outer heron]

kinda like bishaten but not much mechanically

[eager anchor]

Bishaten is a more universally usable Kechawacha

Doesn't need a map specific to all its mechanics

[outer heron]

that's about all i want from rise list tho

mostly luna and goss

oh wait

garangolm

that one was neat

big fan

[vocal haven]

Biggest pipe dream but a (guardian) ahtal kha nested in an ancient civilisation city would be

[eager anchor]

I would love vampire boy, I also love lunagaron, Umbrella bird would be cool I liked its movements.

Big cat

I love big cat.

Magnamarshmellow could be done good in this game if you gave it a lot of fakeout groundfighting stuff, Knockdowns from wounds that are "Trapped"

And would lead to you going in to unload on them only for them to hit the hell out of you

[vocal haven]

Tetsucabra where you at

[eager anchor]

I just remembered Tetsucabra wasn't in rise

Such a fakeout from the guildmaster

Ok so i know they are a bit on the lower end of monsters but

i would love Ludroth in the forest

or pukei pukei

[outer heron]

standard or coral pukei would be neat

[vocal haven]

Oil drinking flamethrower pukei pukei

[eager anchor]

-# Pukei pukei heralding dawn of eternal night

[outer heron]

ukanlos or akantor would also be neat

[mossy meteor]

Coral Pukei was such a fun fight, would love to have it back. It would fit really well in the plenty forest too!

[outer heron]

yuh

[desert light]

https://youtu.be/YZoCy3F4J_A

[vocal haven]

wait

did i see soulseer in the trailer?

[desert light]

More likely it has moves frfom Soulseer etc

[mystic cape]

Whelp, all those people who wanted to fight ||Lagiacrus|| will be happy

[vocal haven]

HE IS BAAAACK

soon*

[desert light]

Going through, spoilers behind here obvs::

||AT Rey Dau. HR Zoh Shia. Feylene meal delviery in town? Mitszu, who seems to be apex level, shown with a fight vs Uth Duna. Armor looks amazing as usual.

AT Rey is an event quest. New armor, Gamma set. Is reyt dau reycolored with iradecsent blues.

New locatioin is Grand Hub. Amstriga head piece spotted. Barrel bomb rolling minigame, which looks hilarious. Probaly located next to Suja

HR 16 required to unlock.

Arena quests also unlocked as part of it - looks to be classic style where it gives you fixed gear? Yep, confirmed

Free Challenge quests have no equip limits, so you can just go hogwild in em.

||

New outfits for Alma. Paid dlc mostly, but one for free . Includes new glasses, lol. A bunch of returning gestures for free

Cosmetic pack one if you paid for that coming with TU1

Includes GIANT PLUSHEIS for your camp, lol

Looks like weapon skins are included here.

Also, SEASONAL EVENTS

Update goes live on the 5th, 23rd is when the festival of accord blossomdance, and ||AT Rey Dau|| hits 29thapril. Another patch at end of may, which will have capcom collabs

Second TU "Summer"

[mystic cape]

The ||cat food delivery service|| looks like it will ||deliver feasts from the settlements to the hub|| or something similar

[desert light]

Second free TU will have ||LAGI||

@daring current Spoiler that please!

[daring current]

Breh

[mystic cape]

A thought occurs, between Mizu and the upcoming title update monster it looks like both ||are for the same environment, not to mention both are the same classification||

[desert light]

Ye, it's a little odd

[daring current]

SOULSEER. THEY ADDED FUCKING SOULSEER

SOULSEER MIZUTSUNE. WE ARE SO BACK

[snow helm]

Yeah I would have expected (leak spoilers) ||Steve rather than Lagia first but hey who's complaining really? I think they knew they needed the hype.||

Leviathans really do be flexing in Wilds

[halcyon fractal]

given how ||lagiacrus|| is back, and its inhabiting the rainforest area...

||,,,poor Uth Duna's gonna find out the '"Toaster in a Bathtub" scenario firsthand||

[daring current]

OH SO ANDY CAN SAY IT BUT I HAD TO SPOILER IT

Better :>

[halcyon fractal]

WHOOPS

[eager anchor]

Queue mandalores favorite soundeffect

https://youtu.be/NPP_iYo0Brk

[desert light]

Er, it appears to just be normal Mizu

[daring current]

Absolutely not.

It has blue bubbles and you can LITERALLY see the blue flames

[desert light]

That could just be standard rolling moves in

[daring current]

penguin

This is fucking soulseer

It has the glowing eye

[desert light]

I'm jsut saiyng dont get hyped without confirmation

Adjust thy exepcations

[teal halo]

Yeah no that’s the mizutsanse

[daring current]

ITS. SOULSEER

I mean

I know this

Because ive seen it in gen ult

[desert light]

YOur proof is that it has some moves from Soulseer

and nothing else

that does nto make it Soulseer.

chill.

[daring current]

IT. HAS. THE. GLOWING. EYE

Only Soulseer has it

[teal halo]

mate. If it moves like soulseer

[daring current]

Not to mention the reddened body

[teal halo]

And it looks like soulseer

[daring current]

IT HAS A REDDENED BODY

More red than mizu's purple

[eager anchor]

We'll see

[teal halo]

Then it’s a mcfucking soulseer

[eager anchor]

just chill lmao

[desert light]

Again, we have no proof beyond secpulation here

[daring current]

Proof number two

[desert light]

Literally all i'm saying is: Don't overhype yourself until we have actual hard confirmation

[daring current]

Mizutsune has purple..Scales(?) on it's back

[glacial vale]

They've compressed subspecies exclusive moves onto base monsters in this game already

[daring current]

As seen here

Whilst Soulseer's is redder

As seen here

[desert light]

Tbh, you're being unpleasent about this

like seriously

[glacial vale]

Rathian has the spinning tail sweep that previously was Pink's signature move

[daring current]

Penguin you're literally "Nuh uh"ing every piece of evidence

[desert light]

LKiterally all i'm saying is "Wait until we have actual hard proof in game"

[daring current]

There is hard proof right there in the form of soulseer's eye

[teal halo]

Pixel I would advise calming down a bit

[daring current]

Only soulseer has that

[desert light]

Yes, becuase taking moves from variants/deviants etc and intergrating them into standard monsters is pretty common

[daring current]

Alright alright

I apologize.

[desert light]

Astalos got Boltreaver's Lighting Horn

[glacial vale]

If it was a variant they wouldn't be shy about calling it a variant

We have ||ebony odo and fulgur anja|| in the game

[daring current]

It just really got me heated to see someone "nuh uh"ing the fact i have literal evidence that soulseer mizutsune is in the game

Now I'm not saying they dont have regular mizu too

Theyre most likely adding both

[desert light]

You don;'t though. You have a bunch of speculation

that is very cool if it's true

but it is not hard evidence

[daring current]

Speculation with visual evidence and comparisons

[teal halo]

Doesn’t change that we don’t have complete proof

[teal halo]

It’s very likely but we don’t know yet

[daring current]

Oh alright so Mizu just has a glowing eye now

[eager anchor]

Mizu's scales turn red when its enraged.

Also fucking chill

[stiff dust]

i think you all should drop this to be quite sincere, this isn't going anywhere

[daring current]

Alr again, i'll drop it now

[teal halo]

Ok

[daring current]

I'll just have to wait until april to see if Soulseer's in the game

And if it is expect me to say so.

[teal halo]

Ok

[daring current]

Because I have been CRAVING Soulseer since generations ultimate

Hence my constant pushing about soulseer being in the game

It all just adds up with the flaming blue bubbles and enraged eye glow, which it does when you get hit by it's bubbles.

[teal halo]

Ah, the silksong effect I see

[daring current]

I suppose?

It mainly is just seeing this. Since I know for a fact no other version of Mizutsune has a glowing eye, especially since it's Soulseer's distinct trait 🤷

Im not arguing now dw

Thats all i am gonna throw in.

Just- i have my hunch

Also ||lagiacrus in title update 2 lets go||

So not only is my favourite monster coming back, a fan-favourite is also showing up

[teal halo]

||im looking forward to everyone’s favorite lightning snake||

[daring current]

Is it just me or is there a LOT of leviathans now?

Ever since Capcom fixed the skeleton

They've been pumping out leviathans, which is reasonable

[teal halo]

Uth, bala, ||lagi||, and I feel like I’m forgetting one

[daring current]

Mizu.

[desert light]

Jin Dahaad and Hirambi

[daring current]

• Soulseer if we count subspecies

[rich valve]

i dont think youre doing a very good job of dropping it

[teal halo]

Oh right yeah jin and hira

I forgot hira was a leviathan cause it flies

[eager anchor]

All I know is i'm going to lose a lot of time learning to bowl in the new hub

[daring current]

(Speculated Soulseer)

[teal halo]

Stop

[mossy meteor]

Uth Duna is a leviathan?
....I guess it is, but it's so fat it feels more like...I don't know, a piscine wyvern.

[daring current]

Okay right yea im digging my grave

[stiff dust]

you gotta stop bringing up soulseer for a hot minute come on

[daring current]

Wait it is?

Oh shit

[rich valve]

its sort of like uh

[daring current]

That explains why i saw uth duna swimming underwater once

[eager anchor]

gobul

[desert light]

Yeah, please, this is getting very unpleasent 😦

[daring current]

Gobul's in Wilds?

Yea i dropped it for real this time.

[rich valve]

mizutsune and balahara are very traditional leviathans

[daring current]

Yea. Really glad I can fight it without the Rise movement

[rich valve]

uth duna and hirabama and like, gobul (who is not in wilds) use the skeleton but it's not so obvious

[daring current]

Slightly off topic but Jin Dahaad's music goes so fucking hard

[void narwhal]

All of the Apex themes are crazy

[daring current]

That organ makes me ascend

[mossy meteor]

Hirabami makes sense, that sucker is a straight up ribbon. Uth Duna is like a particularly long and annoyingly wide Chatacabra

[teal halo]

It’s absolute H E A V E N

[daring current]

Real

[rich valve]

I don't think there's really an overuse of leviathans given how diverse they are (compared to like... flying wyverns in world for example)
||but it is funny to have two wet leviathans with very similar profiles being added to the same map two title updates in a row||

[daring current]

The intro with the music though
Ough

[daring current]

Oh yea im glad there's more leviathans

I just wish 'Una was more impressive as an apex

[teal halo]

Whoever designed jin knew exactly what they were doing

[daring current]

Dual blades best friend

Also clashing is peak

If I can't clash Mizutsune or ||Lagiacrus|| im gonna riot

[mossy meteor]

Rey Dau: Railgun monster. Kicks insane amounts of ass. People thought it was the flagship it's so good.
Nu Udra: flaming octopus. Squiggly nonsense. Hilarious.
Jin Dahaad: Heat sink godzilla. Long as hell, fun part breaks. Fixed version of the Safi fight.

Uth Duna: it's there. Sometimes it jumps a bit. You can drop rocks on it and then it flops around. I guess.

Compare to Namielle out of World

[teal halo]

I will say that Uth’s water mantle is a very cool concept and I’m interested in how it works

[rich valve]

i like uth duna but it is a bit lacking in spectacle yeah

[lethal mirage]

And I took that personally.

[daring current]

Kay good it isnt just me

[rich valve]

its unforuntate that it has like, a special move where it goes out of bounds in its nest map but by the time it gets there it's usually too weak to use it before dying

[daring current]

WE FINALLY GOT ZOH SHIA ARMOR?

[stiff dust]

it'd be nice if the big wave move's attack had a well uh. more impressive wave

[daring current]

Real

[rich valve]

i like the wyvernspine (is that what it was called?) aesthetic on the weapons

[daring current]

Brother did a bunch of nothing and got merced by Arkveld

Truly an apex

[eager anchor]

Idk I can at least clash with Uth so ok in my book.

[daring current]

Yea true true

[teal halo]

It’s peak. This armor is so peak.

[daring current]

"Oh yea we tried making fatalis"
"You fucking wh-"

[weak gulch]

Uth seems like a big fish in a small pond kind of situation

[daring current]

Mhm

[weak gulch]

||Awaiting Lagi to bully it out of the area||

[teal halo]

Thats exactly what it is

[daring current]

I honestly thought Uth Duna would be more thin and agile like mizut (before i learned they were adding them), cue my surprise when i saw a chonky fish

[teal halo]

It’s time for duna to see how a real apex leviathan does things

[daring current]

They look huggable but thats kinda it

[lethal mirage]

Born to hunt, forced to skeletonmax

[mossy meteor]

Yeah!! I was so excited to see those wedge beetles and get ready to dodge a tidal wave and it just kinda knocks you over a bit. Weaksauce, especially when Rey Dau is dumping the unmatched power of the storm into your ass

Like, imagine if you miss the rock environmental hit and it just whelms you the entire way off that waterfall

Go back to Area 11 we WAVIN' here

[daring current]

Rey Dau: Literally zaps you with lightning bolts

Jin Dahaad: SafiJiiva's you with no hesitation

Uth Duna:

[teal halo]

Rey dau is a living lightning storm
Nu udra is a living heatwave
Jin dahaad is a living blizzard
Uth duna is a living wave at the beach that knocks you back a bit but isn’t even big enough to surf on

[daring current]

Real

[desert light]

I really do like Uth Duna as a fight hough

he's very fun

[teal halo]

As a fight it’s neat, that I agree with

And the armor is top notch

[mossy meteor]

The armor is amazing for sure

[lethal mirage]

For me, the big move fromt he duna is when it does

[daring current]

I WOULDNT EVEN HUNT YOU FOR YOUR LAYERED ARMOR

[lethal mirage]

The whale

[desert light]

I think ya'll are understimating how much danger waves have in real life too

like tidal waves arent actually big

they just. dont. stop.

[daring current]

I got blindsided by one years ago. Not fun

[mossy meteor]

I can't stand that one jumping spiral slam he does though. If you're anywhere near the body it instantly gets you, and the hitbox is wide

[daring current]

Uth Duna is just wide-putin²

[teal halo]

Why is he squared

[mossy meteor]

Duna is the most offset-able monster in the game though
That guy eats offsets all day long

[desert light]

I think he's a really fun desgin. much more interesitng useo f water manipulation than normal

[daring current]

Big fuckin' fish

[desert light]

and the mepahsis on sheer mass and brute strength is very fun

[mossy meteor]

Had a hunt with three greatswords and they spent the whole fight bullying him every time he had the audacity to make an attack

[desert light]

and also very good refelction of how water supports REAL HONKIN BIG MONSTERS in real life

i also love how his head is kinda tiny vs the rest of his bulk

[daring current]

Im not gonna sugar coat it

Y³

[desert light]

and the way he's obviousyl very blubbered up in his main body

[daring current]

Yea uth duna's design is nice, just not as an apex

[eager anchor]

I like it as an apex in a river biome

River monster type shit

[void narwhal]

Arch Tempered Uth Duna is going to splash the world apart

You'll see

[eager anchor]

Whats going to eat the biggest catfish in the river

Thats right nothing

[desert light]

https://blog.ja.playstation.com/2025/03/25/20250325-mhw/ according to translation of this, Tempered Mizu is an 8 star

which is neat, becase base mizu is 5 star

[eager anchor]

Well Us i suppose

But still

[void narwhal]

They get Duna's heft right with his jump

[desert light]

Yeah, he feels very cromulent for a River Apex

[daring current]

True

[desert light]

Notably, his head is based off this:

https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/7s6p4P6NGbXTNqrUGPtUzg.jpeg

[daring current]

I love how nobody gaf about arch tempered rey dau, lmao

[desert light]

Or at least has very similar deisgn ques

https://i.redd.it/wg7eojdtc6k91.jpg

[lethal mirage]

IDK, it looks way more reptilian to me

[desert light]

It's mainly the way the neck curves into the head

IT's more obvious side on

[lethal mirage]

And if it was a fish I'd find the tigerfish to be more fititng

[mossy meteor]

I think I'd like it more if the colors were as bright as the armor.

Just looks so dingy in comparison

Maybe it's because we fight him in pouring rain, hmm.

[desert light]

It's very vivid in the plenty

and i've foguht hium plenty there

https://preview.redd.it/j34g8tarvaqe1.jpg?width=1920&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=330a6a77d139ec646e912ddf1b4cfb9958ef406e

Note my screesnhot

not*

[desert light]

https://preview.redd.it/s4xm3xc1b1td1.jpg?width=960&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=9a7cc53c92aaa48802ad80ddcf31a6daf6633561 As said, ti's mostly the side on curvature of the head to the enck that resembles Ariparima

Reptile wise it remidns me a bit of Komodos, though the limbs are very different

[rich valve]

I do, I am glad to get more endgame monsters to fight and Rey Dau is neat, there's just not really anything to say about it

and it won't be out until three weeks after the patch, and even then maybe only temporarily

[rich valve]

this is also a good picture for demonstrating its evertable fish jaw

[plain gazelle]

zorah magdaros time

[desert light]

Uh, i'm not quite sure what you mean

[rich valve]

i mean that its jaw extends forwards out of its mouth like many fish can do

[desert light]

Ah

I thought you meant sarcastic fringehead style. Spoiler for mildly d isturbing

||https://www.sciencealert.com/images/2019-01/Sarcastic_fringehead_Neoclinus_blanchardi1.jpg||

[frigid mango]

||This is the one thing i was begging for when i heard they brought swimming back. My big scaley boy has come home. We’re so back||

[desert light]

Which a couple of in game mosnters do (Hirambi for one)

[teal halo]

I like hirabami as a concept and as a fight but the armor makes me look like a twink from genshin or something

[eager anchor]

Oh

i should look at that armor

[plain gazelle]

so uh

is ||zorah magdaros MEANT to get away after the nergigante party crashes||

[teal halo]

Yes

[plain gazelle]

okay cool

[teal halo]

Welcome to the coral dimension

[desert light]

Yes, lorewise you're not killing Zorah - you're just redirecting it. Zorah is arleady dying of old age.

The problem is if ti dies inside the New World tunnels like it was trying, all the energy it releases is going to mix with all the other accumualted bioenergy and uh...

boom

NO more new world.

Instead by directing it out to the ocean, it'll start a new biosphere when it dies.

||GUiding Lands in MR appears to be on a Zorah & Dalamadur corpse(s), just like how Rotting Vale is made out of at least 2 giant Dalamadur corpses||

[plain gazelle]

i mean i was just under the impression we were capturing it for study

[teal halo]

He was talking about the first zorah raid, peng

[balmy swan]

Oh yeah

That's a plot-scripted failure of the operation

[desert light]

Look, it's been most of a decade

[plain gazelle]

this place is reminding me of the qlipoth tree in DMCV

because of all the verticality and how some of the terrain looks

[frosty lintel]

MY GOAT

[daring current]

Raah

[brave hazel]

Are there any emulators that'll allow me to play GU on PC?

[plain gazelle]

diablos jumpscare right before i kill the rathian

annoying

[daring current]

just dropping in here to apologize for getting heated earlier. i understand i was in the wrong and wanted to apologise quickly cuz i feel bad

kbyeeeeee

ALSO RAAH I FUCKING LOVE JIN DAHAAD

[teal halo]

jin dahaad is peak monster hunter

[daring current]

genuinely

it's a siege you can do solo OR multiplayer

[naive elk]

yeah

should be

though i think it's only got an english version on switch

i think i have a patch installed on the version i have installed on my 2dsXL so you might be able to patch it for a 3ds version

[brave hazel]

Hm

[desert light]

https://i.redd.it/f93k8wfzhuqe1.jpeg

[gentle knoll]

oh no i want this

[brave hazel]

OH SHIT THE SEALED DRAGON CLOTH IS BACK???

[verbal copper]

Is it worth it to level up some lower level armour stuff? Or should I really just pump it all into the arkveld stuff?

I kinda want to... you know...

Cause upgrading fun good times, but also should I just massively upgrade my best stuff?

[rich valve]

If it has useful skills it is worth upgrading but if you're not going to wear it you don't get anything from upgrading it, upgrading armour only increases its defence

[desert light]

Ye, upgrade stuff you're wearing and using first

Upgrading anything else is just to say you did

[verbal copper]

HIGH BEETLE
HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

bug king

[brave hazel]

Couldn't you just like

Wear the layered version

[verbal copper]

?

[real zodiac]

Once you've made a piece of high rank armor, you can change the appearance of any armour piece to that

So instead of upgrading the beetle gear

Upgrade the arkveld gear and make it look like the beetle gear using the tent

[rich valve]

yeah you can just use the appearance of any high rank armour you have made while actually having any other item you have equipped (not weapons though, for now)

[verbal copper]

Oh that's neat!

And probably should have done that

ah well

high rank beetle armour that gives full heroics

[desert light]

At the very least they showed paid weapon skins as part of tu1

[rich valve]

well crafting it is a necessary step to using it as layered armour, upgrading it not so much 😅

[brave hazel]

Speaking of title updates, the new DLC layered armor's neat looking

Kinda reminds me of the Marcher set from Dragon's Dogma 2 somehow

[verbal copper]

goodness arkveld is expensive to upgrade though

It is complete

every tier 8 weapon

For the horn I mean

I'm not doing all of them I would die

Hey greatsword users what the fuck is this?

[candid perch]

tradition

[verbal copper]

I see carry on

I mean I am smacking people with a saxophone
And this

I wish I had a Gravios weapon ;-;

It's such a funky monster I want it's fleshj

[amber frost]

fish : )

[verbal copper]

Hmmmm

[verbal copper]

I forgot to boost my artian weapon

I did a boost, got two sharpness, two element increase and an affinity increase

[snow helm]

Not only is the Speartuna in every game, but it's also consistently the best or nearly the best Ice GS

[verbal copper]

I'm surprised I haven't seen people use it more

[verbal copper]

I guess regular weapons have a funny one, but the hunting horn is hard to have a "funny" one cause it's like... a horn. It's already a funny weapon to be swinging around

[desert light]

Monster Hunter has a very long tradition of joke weapons.

Across the years we've had a lump of wood with mushrooms for the cutting edge, a heavy bowgun that's obviously just a motorcycle chassis with the wheels cut off, a literal tank for the bowgun, a light bowgun that's a teapot... That a feylene with a blowpipe pops out of, poisonouz dango as dual blades...

There was a hammer that was just a revolver ammo thing

Tri had a lance that was a shark and a no swimming sign

Just... An entire shark

[brave hazel]

Don't forget the fish gat

Or the dog gat

Or the best joke weapon that was also a crossover weapon

[verbal copper]

with atorney badge I see

I do wonder what a hunting horn one could be

considering it's just kinda normal that I hit someone with a sax

[heady stone]

I've seen Poogie on a stick as a Hunting Horn in Frontier

Mostly it's monster heads on sticks

[verbal copper]

the kut-ku one is pretty silly

Mostly cause it looks like a puppet

[desert light]

Zinogre's is an axe

(a guitar. It plays electric riffs when you thump people with it)

[verbal copper]

The rath one is a fire guitar this time around

A flying V style

I like the violin-type music from the poison horn

[fiery wave]

Freedom Unite had dual blades that were a fork and knife

and chainsaws

the chainsaws were actually really solid electric swords IIRC

but the fork and knife was ass

[empty raft]

So

Question

What does gunlance lose that doesn’t just make it Better Lance

[gentle knoll]

move to hit high is either slow or requires space, lance is just generally safer

[real zodiac]

Gunlance doesn't have counters

Of the lances mobility strings

[empty raft]

Ahhhhhh

Is gunlance… good

[real zodiac]

In wilds, yes

[empty raft]

That’s a p broad question but I feel like I hear it talked about so rarely

What about in world

[real zodiac]

It has some significant pain points

Like shelling eating sharpness

[gentle knoll]

gunlance is called a romance weapon in japanese communities

or i guess if i have to localize it to mtg english speaking community, a johnny weapon

[teal halo]

A what?

[real zodiac]

It's a weapon with a rabid fan base, but low population

[gentle knoll]

Johnny is the creative gamer to whom Magic is a form of self-expression. Johnny likes to win, but he wants to win with style. It’s very important to Johnny that he win on his own terms. As such, it’s important to Johnny that he’s using his own deck. Playing Magic is an opportunity for Johnny to show off his creativity.

[real zodiac]

In addition, shelling damage is only effected by shell level and the Artillery skill, with no other buffs applying

[gentle knoll]

so in hunting terms: reason i use johnny is because johnnies love what they love, and won't be deterred by trivial things such as practicality

(not saying GL is impractical, of course)

also shelling ignores bounce, which is definitely sweet

depending on GL type, you can develop different play styles

usually the long/wide/normal style GLs tend to have one move they're better at than the other two types

so you can somewhat narrow down what you make by considering which moves you like more, if you want to go down that route

[elder lava]

In the English community it's known derisively as the 'funlance'

Because it's 'fun' but not actually practical

Though in Wilds it's a disgustingly powerful weapon, and in World I'd argue it's still sold

[gentle knoll]

hell, in Rise, it got a some big help in bindskills

[real zodiac]

Yeah it's legit real fun in rise

[gentle knoll]

you can NOT tear me away from a GL when i get to parry into GAINING SHARPNESS

rise lance kinda got outshined for me by GL's parry

[real zodiac]

Yeah

Also riding the rocket

Rise is the game i didn't main lance in

[plain gazelle]

i thought stars meant the monster was weak to it

oops

[outer heron]

?

it does

more stars, more better :stonks:

[plain gazelle]

what

i put on an electric lance and did no damage to the tzizti-ya-ku