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#Monster Hunter
empty raft
honestly like i said
my theory is that were actually looking at like
6-8 updates or more
outer heron
i wouldn't want to speculate that far into the future tbh
outer heron
but i wouldn't be shocked to come back like 3 years later and point to that message
outer heron
well u already did :p
i just speculated to the distance of the last two monhuns :(
that's 7 years in the past!
no future here
empty raft
fair yeah
empty raft
why????
outer heron
i don't know
i swear it was like
mostly or very positive for a while
i think people are just malding
full sage
monster hunter portable 6th for the switch 2 2028 babyyyyy
desert light
Looking at the recent negative reivews, it's just people being mad that ibceborne is hard and the cltuchclaw exists
Which like, the CC is an issue
but yeah, people are ridic
void narwhal
People always talk about Monster Speed in Iceborne and not a once did I think about it in my playthrough
Things just had health and hit hard
desert light
They would be so upset if they tried sunbreak.
Sunbreak had me going "Yeah, these are al itrtle fast"
shrug i put a lot of this down to the series getting more andm ore wiedly popular
verbal copper
Hey so about ||Artian stuff. Should you want to try and match up the infusions it gives you as much as possible? Or it seems having two of the same type gives you that element right? Cause there's no ice horns, and it would be good to craft an ice horn.||
graceful snow
||Yes, you also get an elemental boost if all three are the same||
outer heron
Hey so about ||Artian stuff. Should you want to try and match up the infusions i...
||you want three, not two, like creator said||
||matching none is horrendous but works in a pinch (but just go for a monster weapon in that case)||
||matching two gets an element/status, and matching three amps that||
verbal copper
Shock and awe
outer heron
||ideally, you want three atk-specced parts of a matching element||
verbal copper
Ugh, gonna need to wait for some ice pieces...
outer heron
||bc 5 raw is always better than 5 affinity, no matter what build you are ever||
desert light
YOu're hunting horn, arent you Leika?
verbal copper
yuh
outer heron
||(and because there are ways like max might to get 10000000 affinity)||
desert light
Because the BIS hunting horns are monster parts afaik
verbal copper
BIS?
outer heron
best in slot
verbal copper
oh best in slot
yeah but if they don't have any ice ones then making an ice one would be good
desert light
In that case, yes, you want all Attack parts
Also, remeber you can use the melder to re-roll parts too
verbal copper
Ah I should check that to mix a bunch of the rando pieces
because I have a ton of them
desert light
Yup.
Also if you get Nightbloom pollen (Spawns on full moon nights in Windward planes, one in area 3, one in area 8), you can trade that for Gold Relic/Gold Melding Tickets
which can be cashed in to get you a ton of parts/ton of decos respectively
rapid lion
Is Ice still the best element to use in general? I know that in World at least, if you didn't know what element something was weak to, it's weak to Ice.
(If it flies it's weak to lightning, if it's firey or rocky it's weak to water, if its shaped like a dragon it's weak to dragon, and if it has visibly textured fur or feathers it's weak to fire.)
graceful snow
No, there's a much more balanced spread of monsters in wilds this time I feel like
Base world had what, 11 fire monsters?
rapid lion
I don't know about absolute numbers but I just remember feeling like ice was the garbage bucket element. If you looked at something and said "yeah, it doesn't have a clear visual telegraph what it's weak to", it was weak to ice.
I guess cold-blooded stuff and/or desert dwellers?
desert light
The game literally wil ltel lyou what things weaknesses are wqith the in game encolypedia
so just... use that?
teal halo
Base world had what, 11 fire monsters?
fire as in weakness or fire as in element
outer heron
can't be element
it was like, anja bazel lavasioth teostra lunastra, and i think luna came in a TU
oh wait
raths
always forget the raths
i believe the 11 now
weak gulch
raths out the wazoo
outer heron
fucking four of the bastards
teal halo
rathian is more poison in my eyes
outer heron
man, how tf this not a mini crown
teal halo
i cant tell if its just small from perspective or not
hollow comet
@desert light ty for da tips!!
claws broken, face broken, tail cut, not a single cart
rapid lion
...I'm suddenly imagining Zorah Magdaros in an open world game.
hollow comet
dang, didn't get any vip tickets 😔
trying to get some to convert to the appreciation fest ones
i want that astral layered armor,,
teal halo
...I'm suddenly imagining Zorah Magdaros in an open world game.
you don't fight it, it just wanders about and you can climb on it to mine stuff
rapid lion
Yup. And "this is a wandering ecosystem disruption" hits harder when it's actually within the ecosystem. And you can just... run into it, in the open world, scale its leg, and start mining or trying to kill it/drive it off.
It doesn't have to be Zorah Magdaros. It could be some other giant creature. Just... it's a giant creature.
outer heron
that'd be the right way to do it
rapid lion
I think it'd have to be a bit less giant than Zorah Magdaros if you wanted it to be able to wander into other maps. But you could do some sort of walking beast with a forest growing from its back, or a giant worm/serpent, or like... a giant flying manta ray? But that doesn't feel like Monster Hunter.
If they ever bring back underwater combat, a manta ray monster would be neat, though.
balmy swan
i could see a flying manta ray if it keeps itself aloft with, like, gas pouches or something
that would be kind of sick actually
rapid lion
Okay, yeah. Would that be an Elder Dragon or a really weird monster (and hence more normal-sized) though? Or like... a wyvern which is just reminiscent of a manta ray, like the Lagiacrus kind of is but not exactly?
lagiacus 🤦 I meant Legiana
what am I on about
balmy swan
i mean on the one hand i feel like an elder dragon would be more prone to being like "it flies because fuck you" than having a biological explanation
on the other hand it might get the classification just because of the "oh crap" factor
rapid lion
(also, I probably realized this before, but the updrafts in the Coral Highlands are from gasses released by decomposition in the Rotten Vale.)
balmy swan
i... actually never thought of that before, but that makes a lot of sense.
rapid lion
have there been any monster hunter games or areas that do anything interesting with darkness? Or would it just be annoying if there were areas that were dark enough it was hard to see except for right next to you?
desert light
have there been any monster hunter games or areas that do anything interesting w...
Tri did this, it sucked.
Pitch black areas you had to light torches in
not fun!
rapid lion
I was just remembering my idea for an area which was actually two maps, in a huge forest where there's one map entirely atop the branches in the canopy, and a second one in the eternally-dark undergrowth.
outer heron
have there been any monster hunter games or areas that do anything interesting w...
gigginox, most specifically
unlike gigginox, it was a mistake
rapid lion
I was imagining a rolling wyvern (like Radobaan and Uragaan) that could roll around in the dead plant matter, sticking it to its shell to eat later, and also altering its attacks (like, if it's rolled through ivy it leaves a slowing trail on the ground, and if it's rolled through sporeclouds its sleep gas attack is bigger and it can leave sleep clouds as it rolls).
outer heron
god, this bug is still so ridiculous
rapid lion
Actually. Are the bird wyverns that you use for fast travel (I forget the name) domesticated? I kind of feel like they're maybe like honeyguides. I could see some form of scavenger that leads hunters to large monsters (because they know that hunters tend to kill the monster and not take most of the corpse with them). Like a honeyguide almost.
vapid quartz
Actually. Are the bird wyverns that you use for fast travel (I forget the name)...
saw a cool video about this topic earlier
rapid lion
oh I hadn't watched that one yet. I had meant the World ones, which aren't birds at all, but I'll check that out because I like the channel.
vapid quartz
ohhhh oh wingdrake i think?
balmy swan
(LR story spoilers) ||the hunter notes entry for the guardian seikret mention that those have claws, unlike the regular seikret--i wonder if that was a modification from the Wyverians, or if seikret lost their claws over the course of the last thousand years for some reason||
rapid lion
yeah wingdrakes. That's it.
Just... honeyguides are really cool for having a genuinely symbiotic relationship with humans without being tamed at all, and for all that Monster Hunter talks about harmony between humans and nature, it'd be really awesome if they showed it in that sort of way.
verbal copper
I got a minicrown too, what is it?
outer heron
?
as in, what are mini crowns?
i thought you'd played other MH games, but in case you haven't and this is what you're asking: monsters have a range of sizes, and their maximum and minimum sizes show up as giant and tiny gold crowns in logs when you catch them (and, in wilds, on the binoculars)
there's no mechanical reward for getting them, you just get titles and achievements for filling out your logs with giant and mini crowns
rapid lion
Actually... imagine a signal whistle item. You could blow a low, middle, or high-pitched note, and can do a quick or a held note. And it makes a noise other hunters can hear, but sometimes things in the environment will react to your calls also.
Like, there's one kind of animal, which if it hears a low-medium-high held call, will repeat the call back at you and then try to guide you to the nearest large monster. Or a grimalkyne trap which they'll fire as soon as you blow three quick high notes.
The existence of scoutflies sort of renders most things I could think to do with this into mostly useless gimmicks...
brave hazel
...god I miss Surge Slash Combo
verbal copper
i *thought* you'd played other MH games, but in case you haven't and this is wha...
I mean I have played other MH games but I wasn't really part of a proper community and just kinda stumbled along through everything doing my best and tooting. And it's not like it explained any of this at any point.
verbal copper
I beat up a monster and found it giving me an achievement for a small crown
outer heron
but i think that's about it
verbal copper
I might have stopped before I got to that point
meager kernel
Is there a way to find food ingredients/have them auto harvested or is it a random drop kinda deal?
verbal copper
you can trade for some
later on you can group all thet raders together into one person so you just check once in a while for potential trades for mud shrimp or eggs or whatever you fancy
Some of them are random drops, like eastern honey or certain herbs
rapid lion
...I wonder if at some point in-universe, some old guy said Rathian and Rathalos were different species, and that's why they have different names. (Which sounds silly, but real life ancient scholars have said much dumber stuff with way more confidence.)
verbal copper
I mean there's weirder shit out there in the world
I got my head chewed on by an octopus
rapid lion
I mean, if you don't fully understand how sexual dimorphism works, it'd be easy to imagine them as different species when they're not. It's just dumb, because they clearly nest together, and you'd think some bright person would realize that... but it's possible some person said "these are different species" and everyone went "yeah sure that sounds plausible, no need to look for contrasting evidence".
actually that's a funny idea: what are some of the dumbest previously-held ideas that got disproven by the Research Commission?
verbal copper
the Freud of Monster Hunter world
Someone just really wanting to disprove this one guy
"inspired a deeper look into the subject"
rapid lion
yesss
I was thinking less Freud and more... Socrates or somebody. Came up with some dumb theory and then it stuck around until disproven by science.
If a Jagras eats the flesh of other Jagras in sufficient quantities, it grows into an Anjanath. Some sort of connection between Dodogama and grave desecration. (These are mostly World stuff because that's the game I've actually played.)
This is actually a different kind of idea, which is less "very wrong science" and more "cultural belief": Jyuratodus carries the souls of the dead into the next world. (This is based on the idea that its intro cutscene had Weird Creepy Angles And Stuff™️, which I headcanoned to mean that it's just oddly unnerving in general, which very well could be because it has a subsonic cry because very low frequency sounds sometimes unnerve people.)
So, because of that, their swamps are thought of as "haunted", and from there, they develop an association with the dead. There's also something about them quite literally burying their prey in mud, and a connection with funerary burial.
never mind this is an actual quote from one of the things. Along with one which implies people think the Gold Rathian's scales are actually made of the precious metal. They're already like this.
meager kernel
never mind this is an actual quote from one of the things. Along with one whic...
Would a non-binary or intersex Rath be Electrum?
rapid lion
An intersex Electrum Rath could be interesting and plausible. (I don't know if it makes sense to describe one as non-binary because I'm not certain if they're sentient enough to have genders per se.)
Probably as a unique monster, because those come up sometimes.
heavy cargo
only monster that might have gender is Fatalis and its gender is Hate.
mystic cape
Fatalis would do the HATE monologue from I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream
stiff dust
chat i miss bazelgeuse
rich valve
one thing this game is missing is aggressive invader monsters that get up in your shit on purpose and I wonder if they are going to add any
I would like bazel I will take pickle I would prefer it not to be Rajang
halcyon fractal
i miss bazel too
rich valve
Valstrax acting as much like one as Rise had was very funny also but probably not reoccuring
halcyon fractal
hmm
desert light
I should probably stop bullying Yian Kut Ku
on the otehr hand, i could bully it more
stiff dust
that guy has like 3 hitpoints no clue what's going on
void narwhal
It's all just setup for the return of Deadeye Garuga, the kutkus shall be avenged
desert light
Oh no, if you trap Congala, he falls in upside down
...and he farts constnatly in his sleep
Just the WORST monster
Relateldy, bulliedo ne so hard it doidnt even get to move awayu from it's starting postion
stiff dust
swag
brave hazel
I liked it so much I straight up just got it commissioned
It remains one of my favorite commissioned pieces to this day
daring current
https://youtu.be/RlQjIrBKx18?si=EnYZ1_7u6J05HcSm
This. Fucking. Theme.
mystic cape
Also THAT FUCKING MONSTER
daring current
Jin Dahaad is cool >:[
I didnt spoiler the name because we all know MHWilds has new monsters. Thats the point.
You dont know what "Jin Dahaad" is unless you look it up :>
So theres no real harm in just saying the name
eager anchor
Me when my heatsink crawls out of my computer and starts telegraphing a raid mechanic
brave hazel
||Mfw my radiator unit starts to charge up a Safi nuke||
hollow comet
Me when my heatsink crawls out of my computer and starts telegraphing a raid mec...
did this player do the claw attack 3 times to enrage the monster to get agitator active?
cuz i would guess swaxe is a heavy weapon so it doesn't matter for tenderizing, but with earplugs 5 maybe the reason was to make nergi angy to buff ZSD
rich valve
I think that using the claw so the monster is enraged 100% of the time is iceborne agitator tech yeah
hollow comet
tyty
frank epoch
We should get Voljang from Frontier as an invader
Imagine if Rajang fused with Hellboy and had portals
verbal copper
Why would you say these things
Also, it's funny but I have killed rey less than other monster in HR just because it's so out of the way and arrives only occasionally
I'll find xu wu wandering around and smash it's head in but unless the storm is going I won't meet rey
I've also not seen the black flame around, is that monster just not here? Or have I not unlocked them?
Because I loved their armour
eager anchor
They should be around if you are around the point where you can get rey
verbal copper
I keep kinda dodging the main plot adn farming stuff
rich valve
The apexes are generally only around during certain seasons so if you're not progressing the plot certain maps might be locked to specific ones where the apex is not present
verbal copper
Makes sense... at least xu wu is around to smack
rich valve
I like xu wu, ||bloodborne-ass creature, did not expect a second octopus to show up||
verbal copper
Yeeee
black flame is more final fantasy in the way it shows up
It's interesting as well that each horn made out of the apex creatures has their element, and it's what most stuff in the area is weak to. Which is like... useful, but useful after you've hunted most stuff
except the black flame actually, since most stuff around there seem weak to ice
snow helm
only monster that might have gender is Fatalis and its gender is *Hate.*
The two ends of the monster gender spectrum are Black Diablos and Mizutsune, clearly
naive elk
fighting the guiding lands quest raging brachy is truly the worst
genuinely awful fight
it's genuinely just AoE on the entire area you are fighting in
brave hazel
The last phase carries that entire fight
naive elk
it does
brave hazel
Otherwise yeah it's just constant fucking AoE spam
brave hazel
There's a reason I always bring my spread HBG to fight it
brave hazel
Its such a fun fight to me
I wish I shared that love for it
naive elk
oh you wanna fight? fuck you, AoE mine explosion
you dodged the explosion? no you didn't blast blight be upon you
vocal haven
blight resistance 3 or blast 3 make it better by a lot if you have trouble
vocal haven
and brachy creating a boss arena while on deaths door is one of the coolest things ever
naive elk
it is pretty swell
vocal haven
I assume you aint a Furious Rajang fan either then 
brave hazel
blight resistance 3 or blast 3 make it better by a lot if you have trouble
It does but there remains the issue of "Constantly stepping on landmines about to explode"
brave hazel
Yeah because his every punch doesn't leave behind an AoE puddle
vocal haven
I was actually kinda disappointed by how tame savage jho felt in world
naive elk
every single damn attack Raging does leaves behind AoE bullshit
and you can't even walk through it even if it doesn't explode because blast blight
vocal haven
do you dislike bazel then aswell? esp seething
naive elk
i don't find Bazel particularly fun but it's better than Raging by a mile
vocal haven
huh
naive elk
Raging is contender for least fun fight in the game for me
vocal haven
naive elk
honestly don't even know who it's contending with
vocal haven
Ala?
vocal haven
Kush? Blackveil maybe if you dont like that
naive elk
Kushala is leagues better then Raging or Ala
vocal haven
that do be brazy to me, super fair tho
naive elk
Blackveil and normal Vaal are just like, obnoxious to fight due to the health debuff thing
they're not hard fights
just annoying
naive elk
70% of your healthbar going away whenever it attacks is artifial difficulty
compared to Rajang who is just fucking hard to fight and doesn't pull any bullshit
vocal haven
Rajang def does pull a lot of bullshit. His mobilty, combo and stun % is like very rough. Hardening pelt is also p rough for a lot of weapons
lethal mirage
I love the Vaal hazak
naive elk
yeah but it's not "the entire place you are fighting is land mines" or "takes away your healthbar"
lethal mirage
I very much vibe with it
naive elk
it's also not Alatreons elemental vibe check
vocal haven
I do despise Behemoth for bringing the dps checks into world excluding like safi and kulve
naive elk
yeah
i don't think dps checks are fun or particularly engaging with the world of the game
plus
the game already has a dps check
it's called the quest time limit
vocal haven
thats a bit fake
naive elk
how is that fake
every quest has a time limit, you deal enough damage in the time or you lose
vocal haven
its 50 minutes standard. Calling that a "dps check" just sounds fake to me. Its so much time (minus like fatalis). But this might be a big me take because I do play monhun very very agressive so I very well could not grasp how some players prefer to hunt, which if I do then thats def on me
I know that by defintion it is technically a dps check but to me that doesnt really sound genuine if that make sense atleast opposed to like a true dps check window (it also might only make sense to me in my head. SOrry if I just verbalise what I am trying to say in a bad manner)
naive elk
Ok but the point i was making is that i think dps checks suck and the most dps check i want in the game is the quest timer
naive elk
I know that by defintion it is technically a dps check but to me that doesnt rea...
That does make sense dw
vocal haven
Ok but the point i was making is that i think dps checks suck and the most dps c...
I might have lost myself to the void there for a sec sry.
naive elk
I get what you are trying to say i was just saying something else
Yeah no worries at all
vocal haven
ye i think i just didnt compute right mbmb
naive elk
Mhm, np
But yeah i don't find them fun and i think they are incongruous to the game as well
heady stone
Weirdest part about the aoe Insta cart attacks is that the mechanics to avoid them aren't explained in a easy to notice manner
Like (Wilds spoilers) ||Jin Dahaad|| fight. Every streamer I've seen going into that fight blind has carted to it's aoe the first time
Like have the npcs shout out a warning and make the window more forgiving
naive elk
Mhm
heady stone
Behemoth's positive reception by the community has caused a frustrating effect on big monster fights going foward
heady stone
It was novel when it was a unique experience. If incredibly odd due to how different it was designed to the then norm
Although a lot of people just could not manage it to the point they just used Plunderblade to get the Drachen set instead of killing Behemoth
visual lava
Are you sure the NPC doesn't shout a warning? I could have sworn something tells you what to do. I wouldn't have noticed the mechanic otherwise. But it's probably easy not to notice in the heat of the moment. Or maybe it only tells you after you fail it once. Although the one time I got caught by it, I actually didn't cart.
weak gulch
Behemoth's mechanics really forced teamwork to get through some parts.
Especially the tornados
heady stone
Are you sure the NPC doesn't shout a warning? I could have sworn *something* tel...
There's a visual tutorial on the part of the screen that shows stuff like Wound Destroyed and Part Broken
brave hazel
For the record i don't like fighting Behemoth much
I'm in the outlier of enjoying him but only when I have my Good Shit Endgame Build
heady stone
But it's easy to miss
brave hazel
He genuinely is balanced around endgame Iceborne kit
Before it was even added to the game
heady stone
People were soloing him using Spread HBG in reasonable times on launch I believe
naive elk
Behemoth's mechanics really forced teamwork to get through some parts.
My 4-stack did it with appropriate gear and we never managed
brave hazel
People were soloing him using Spread HBG in reasonable times on launch I believe
Spread HBG was always fucking insane in World tbf
...probably why they curbstomped the shit out of Spread in Wilds
naive elk
We managed to kill behemoth once but he team wiped us with his meteor
So we didn't get the win
brave hazel
It's so fucking miserable to use now because they gave ALL Spread the "Sends you flying back" recoil that makes it goddamn near unusable
heady stone
Wilds overcorrected on Bowgun balance. Removing proper mods and recoil/reload decos sucks
visual lava
rip spread
at least we get to spam Wyvernheart now
all my dreams as a Gatling hunter have come true
brave hazel
They did Bowguns really dirty honestly
Customization is somehow even worse than it was in Rise
brave hazel
Yeah
The LBG mines are single-use now, so there's nearly no point in running them over the sticky explosive
heady stone
On a positive note the Bow looks freaking awesome
brave hazel
I can at least appreciate that they made Normal rapid-fire for EVERYTHING, it feels nice
heady stone
So fluid
void narwhal
Also if you get rapid fire on top of the normal shot it becomes a goddamn SMG
brave hazel
Yeah
void narwhal
Using the Gravios lbg for greatsword sleep pranks and its honestly a solid damage output just bursting at things
void narwhal
The dash shot and the followup.. extra.. burst? Circle/B Chaser Round
visual lava
I need to try that
brave hazel
It does at least kind of make up for the abysmal customization
void narwhal
It's dynamic, hbg though...
visual lava
so far I've only tried Pierce LBG
brave hazel
Thunder rapid fire LBG is pretty fun
It has this like, limited pierce effect
Though I think all the elemental ammo does
void narwhal
That was a change made to element ammo yeah
brave hazel
...honestly I wish that the elemental ammo had all sorts of special effects, it would've been cool
Like
void narwhal
They just sort of re-jumble bowguns every game
brave hazel
Thunder ammo fires hitscan lightning bolts, fire ammo fires short flamethrower spurts that deal continuous damage, ice ammo shatters into a small multi-hit AoE on impact
Dunno about water ammo though
Or dragon ammo
visual lava
Element ammo worked like that in World too
I can't remember how it worked in Rise tho, totally gave up on bowguns in that game due to the controls
naive elk
fighting Raging brachy again cause i need its parts and i don't even know if i could beat this thing solo
there's no opportunity for me to get damage in
it's AoE like 95% of the time
naive elk
ok did 5 hunts
zero wins
got like 3 mats total
the last one we had it down to less than 10% health
i'm not even going to play anymore World today this is just not even fun rn
zealous laurel
I remember also being annoyed with that guy but his gear is so good. Ended up equipping the Zinogre HBG with spread ammo and shield mods
naive elk
it has most of the best weapons in the game
unless you need elemental weapons for like, Alatreon
it's pretty much all Raging Brachy
brave hazel
I remember also being annoyed with that guy but his gear is so good. Ended up e...
Yeah, the armor is THE "Mandatory Meta" set
naive elk
exceptions being made for Bowguns and Bow because Bow is an element focused wep and bowguns have different ammo types per like, weapon
and i don't think Raging brachy has any optimal ammo things on it
brave hazel
Alongside the Teostra armor
naive elk
but otherwise it's pretty much the optimal weapon to use for pretty much anything
brave hazel
and i don't think Raging brachy has any optimal ammo things on it
The LBG can rapid fire Normal 3 but the recoil is insanely fucking high and it ends up being more work than it's worth
brave hazel
Think it can rapid fire sticky too actually
naive elk
but yeah Raging Brachy has by far the highest concentration of best gear
and i hate its fight
Spent a few hours hunting it now and got literally almost nothing out of it
brave hazel
It's miserable outside of the final steel cage match phase yeah
I'd offer to help but I don't have room for World on my PC
naive elk
I'm not playing any more today but i appreciate it
verbal copper
@frank epoch Obtained
verbal copper
I'm gonna slug so many monsters
hollow comet
the slugger
frank epoch
<@137752991875727360> Obtained
I can help ya get it maxed out tonight if you want
Might not even need my help actually...it's just bug parts lmao
Would defo recommend the Entomologist skill for it. 1 slot deco that makes it to where you always leave a corpse for insects no matter how hard you hit them. Helps a lot with vespoid killing
verbal copper
Oh no I've got the max one now is what I meant. Just have to level it up with orbs and stuff eventually.
frank epoch
Orbs? The maxed vespoid horn looks different
Like fully upgraded at the end of the tree is what I mean
verbal copper
I may not have unlocked that level perhaps? It's the purple version, the fourth one
frank epoch
Ohhhh gotcha
You haven't beaten the story yet have you
Or not gotten to the end of high rank at least
verbal copper
No not yet. Okay, so there is a rank even further beyond. Good to know
frank epoch
What's the most recent monster you fought in the story?
visual lava
(rarity ||8|| is the highest currently)
verbal copper
Sorry I'm at a show and couldn't reply. I'm still in like chapter 5. I just found the ice horn which I've been complaining about not existing.
I forgot about that particular monster so thought there weren't any more ice monsters left to make stuff out of
frank epoch
Gotcha, I don't think there's toooooo much more to go
visual lava
it does kinda suck that some weapon types don't get access to specific elements until HR
frank epoch
I'll be down to help people out tonight or just bool if anyone wants to
desert light
Heads up folks: if you're trying to get the various monsters specific titles, you have to slay the monster. Captures don't count
rapid lion
I am thinking about Plunderer Grimalkyne culture because they're a kind of fascinating group.
I'm trying to remember... do any of them have names? Because I thought of a weird idea which is based on a number of things (not all of which I fully know about or culturally understand) but could be interesting.
rapid lion
also still thinking about the idea of a unique monster intersex Rath which is extra scary because it ended up with the offensive weaponry of both Rathian and Rathalos. And the fact that if it was based on a non-variant Rath, I probably wouldn't be able to tell, because I'm red/green colorblind in a way where Rathian and Rathalos look incredibly similar to me.
I guess if it was mottled I might be able to see the mottling depending on how subtle it was? But genuinely it would not be obvious.
twilit granite
Apparently the game is just crashing on launch for a bunch of people now after the new update
visual lava
there was an update?
twilit granite
A few days ago
meager kernel
also still thinking about the idea of a unique monster intersex Rath which is ex...
:3
Sorry for infecting you with the brain worm
frank epoch
Sorry I'm at a show and couldn't reply. I'm still in like chapter 5. I just foun...
got my near-perfect artian horn
meager kernel
Anybody have a good guide to Artian Weapons and how they work?
/What they do
verbal copper
What's your near perfect horn Squiddar?
Also... I'm working on a build called "the wall"
I have heroics 5 and divine thingymajig 3
frank epoch
What's your near perfect horn Squiddar?
it's kinda perfect for me actually i suppose. attack x3 and sharpness x2 with all attack+paralysis parts
verbal copper
wonderful
frank epoch
Anybody have a good guide to Artian Weapons and how they work?
/What they do
did you play World/Iceborne? If so, did you play enough to fight Safi'jiiva?
meager kernel
did you play World/Iceborne? If so, did you play enough to fight Safi'jiiva?
I did play, I did not fight Safi'jiiva
(I played solo for forever and Iceborne feels like it was made to have at least 1 other player for some of the harder fights )
Once I finish out wilds, I might try booting up Iceborne again
frank epoch
So basically artian weapons are like...Build-a-Bear weapons
you can customize most aspects of the weapon
sharpness, affinity, raw, element/status, that kinda thing
the way it works is that when you do tempered monster quests you get artian parts, rarity 6-8. There are different types of artian parts, and you combine three of them to make a weapon. For example, a hunting horn requries a Disc and two Devices
lone citrus
My biggest sadness with Artian weapons is that you don't seem to be able to get all the varieties of a weapon
Like there's no exhaust phial or wide shelling
frank epoch
the parts themselves have an element or status as well as an attack or affinity option. for example you could get an Attack + Paralysis Disc, or an Affinity + Water Device, etc.
lone citrus
Also it bums me out that there's literally no reason to make a pure raw weapon
At least I don't think there is
frank epoch
if you have three different element/status choices amongst the three artian parts you choose, you'll just make a raw weapon
rapid lion
...I keep thinking people are misspelling "artisan".
lone citrus
Well yeah you can make one
frank epoch
you can also reinforce it up to 5 times using the Azuz ores, like Oricalcite and such
lone citrus
But a raw weapon will have the same attack as a status or element one
So you should add a status or element
frank epoch
I'm still sorta giving the whole story to Pom. I'm not responding to you
lone citrus
Ope sorry
frank epoch
nah you're good
and these reinforcements are the big RNG headache, largely because the five reinforcement rolls can be any of attack, affinity, element/status, or sharpness
(if you're reinforcing a raw artian weapon you can't roll element/status so that helps with the RNG but those are largely not The Best when it comes to the most damage you can squeeze out of these things)
So if you really care a lot about optimizing, getting the "perfect" reinforcement rolls can take a while
you can dismantle an artian weapon to destroy it, which refunds the oricalcite and such that was used to reinforce it, but you'll lose the three artian parts you used to actually make the weapon
@meager kernel does that sorta help?
meager kernel
Uh, that's the know basic info, I was hoping someone had a guide or video with more specific, advanced advice, but the given info is appreciated!
frank epoch
I do know a bit more; what advanced information are you looking for?
meager kernel
That's the issue, I don't know all of the info I might need 😅
I do know I want to know: when do I start messing with them, what am I looking for when making them, etc.
frank epoch
i wouldn't worry about them until you've beaten all of the story (so finishing chapter 6) and have gotten the maximum upgraded regular weapon you're looking for. and for the rest it greatly depends on the weapon you use
but largely you'll wanna fight the tempered variants of the apexes or equivalents; so Nu Udra, Uth Duna, Rey Dau, Jin Dahaad, Gore Magala, and Arkveld
those give you the parts for rarity 8 artian weapons, which are the best
visual lava
The current wisdom is to use all attack parts and to get as many attack rolls as possible (with however much sharpness is comfortable for you). Bowguns can roll up to 2 Capacity upgrades, which is usually what you want.
But don't worry too much until you get rarity 8 parts. You eventually can meld lower rarity parts into higher rarity ones, but they can also be nice to get you an elemental weapon you need if you don't feel like getting the mats to craft a specific monster-based one.
frank epoch
it's tough to go wrong with all attack reinforcements, but that's very hard to roll. I settled for 3x attack and 2x sharpness for mine after like 50 rolls of no 4x attack and 1x sharpness, which is what I was going for
desert light
Also when you get HR100 you can directly meld for the given shape you wanty
Eg, Blade or Disc or Tube
meager kernel
... what's the skill for Stun reduction/negation?
I can't find it in charms, but I'm fairly certain I'm just dyslexiaing
nvm, there it is
Stun Resistance
outer heron
it's kinda perfect for me actually i suppose. attack x3 and sharpness x2 with al...
oh shit that is a perfect horn
nice going
i still haven't seen anything with perfect rolls
closest is atk 3 sharp 1 ele 1 on a water
frank epoch
oh shit that *is* a perfect horn
the fucked up thing is that that was my fourth roll
after 50 more i never got anything better
outer heron
bwuh
near bane
do you want to do with with rng or cheese it ?
outer heron
yeah i've got at least a couple dozen by now
outer heron
there are several ways to cheese it
this does not, however, work if you don't actually get the godroll
you just save on resources
near bane
id say the best roll you can get is 1 sharp and 4 attack
outer heron
which is whatever
the distinction between 4/1 and 3/2 is negligible
due to dps loss from sharpening
vs dps loss from reduced raw
near bane
oh really
frank epoch
it's 5 total raw vs 30 hits of sharpness
outer heron
it's like fractions of percentage points that you're picking at at that point
near bane
i got a 2 sharp, 2 attack 1 affinity, probably wont get a better roll for my swaxe
for a while
i havent tried cheesing yet, more busy achievement hunting
outer heron
cheesing really doesn't do much
i've tried and just got tired of the tedium
didn't make me roll better
when REFramework is consistently stable i'll just use that with the artian editor to get my weapons
near bane
im also waiting for it to be stabilised, until then i will stay away from modding
also im looking for a build for ray dau light bow gun, does anyone have anything
visual lava
lol nice
desert light
Also @outer heron It's stable enough to edit your weapoins now
And yes, the chance to get a 4/1 wepaon is 0.6% iirc
meager kernel
Is running Partbreaker 3 stupid/overkill on a longsword?
desert light
Do you need parts broken?
visual lava
well, Partbreaker in general isn't really working consistently right now. I recommend testing it out against the training dummy first.
At least, the increased damage portion
desert light
The training dummy isnt reliable though
EG counterstrike activating wont work on the trianing dummy, but will work on monsters
due to the way the frame data works out
visual lava
if you're using it to break parts for materials, it's probably still fine
I figured out the problem with counterstrike btw
it's bc some things still do chip damage even when you offset them
which will trigger counterstrike
if you don't take any chip, counterstrike won't trigger
desert light
ahh
Anyway @meager kernel The generic "Good stuff" set right now is something like FUlgur B helm, Arkveld Chest, Fulgar A (I think) Gauntlets, rest Gore
https://old.reddit.com/r/MonsterHunterMeta/comments/1jbiq56/weakness_exploit_5_agitator_5_antivirus3_gore2set/ This is looking solid too
G Fulgur Helm, Ark Mail, G ark Vam braces, Gore Coil & Greaves also gets you WE5/AGi 5 and can do max might 3, though ti's heading straight into overkill tetorrity at that point
Also, Burst 1 is good for every single weapon
visual lava
alternatively, if you just want a really safe and comfy set, consider mixing two piece Ark and two piece G Ark with Divine Blessing 3 and Recovery Up 3
although if you're using Longsword, you'd probably want to use Quick Sheathe instead
desert light
Partbreaker and Flayer are utiltiy skills. They both give bonus damage pops, but said bonus damage pops are there to help them do the acutal thing they do: Break parts off/make wounds
So if you really wnat to be breaking wings/tails/legs/heads, then yeah, they're useful
but hey're nto gonna muscle out actual meta damage skills
desert light
alternatively, if you just want a really safe and comfy set, consider mixing two...
Yah, my defence to ocmfort is having 2x Earplugs in my gear
Which is enough to block all but a few roars in teh game
and gets me plenty of free dps time
meager kernel
I'm not quite to "build whatever armor you want" but I had 3x Gem2 slots in my current build and 3x Partbreaker 1 gems
So I just hooked those in and called it a grand ole time for harvesting monster parts
meager kernel
Yah, my defence to ocmfort is having 2x Earplugs in my gear
Me with Guardian Seikret (A) belt (I love jumping off my raptorhorse)
visual lava
it really just depends on what decos you have available. Other things to consider would be earplugs like Zom said, or evade extender
meager kernel
it really just depends on what decos you have available. Other things to conside...
I haven't found any EE gems yet
visual lava
I wouldn't worry about farming specific decos that aren't lvl 3, since you eventually get the ability to meld all lv 1 and lv 2 decos.
desert light
Yeah, and even level 3 decos become decnetly easy to get
outside of some really lucky ocmbos
(i.e i just have Focus 3, i havent gotten a Focus 3/+1 other skill that's useful for me yet)
Specically i'd want Focus 3/Handicraft 1
Just for addtional comfort
meager kernel
"I struggle. I squirm. Ergo, I am." Remains one of my fave lines in the game
visual lava
Rove is best boi
desert light
If oyu chewck aroudn iceshard cliffs
he's sometimes gotten captured.
again.
And you can rescue him
meager kernel
Rove in general is just Peak
desert light
This will keep happening.
meager kernel
He's too damn cute
desert light
The other thing i do with my armr set that's differnet form the meta approahc is i sacrifice a level of aigator so i can get 2x 2 slot decos, whcih means COUNTERSTRIKE
meager kernel
What degree of boost is Agi?
visual lava
You can see the values if you hit skill info
desert light
Agiator is very good, as logn as you can keep things engraged
meager kernel
Make Angy
desert light
Lv. 1 Attack +4, affinity +3% while active.
Lv. 2 Attack +8, affinity +5% while active.
Lv. 3 Attack +12, affinity +7% while active.
Lv. 4 Attack +16, affinity +10% while active.
Lv. 5 Attack +20, affinity +15% while active.
20 raw is a lot, so that's very nice
I only have agi 2 on my gear, because i protiozied WEX 5
Mainly b ecuase when monsters are unconcious from sleep, they're not raging
meager kernel
And 15% crit is v good too
desert light
so i preferred the wakeup crits
which are easier to get with WEX5 (30% affinity on weakspots + 20% more if hitting a wound)\
over the agitator boost
Yeah, teh afinity is a bit wqhatever since it's very easy to end up overcapping in various ways
visual lava
The lowest affinity Artian weapons can have is 5%
getting a 10% roll is more realistic tho
and it's also more convenient to build around anyways imo
meager kernel
I do enjoy my Max Might 3 + Second Wind II build tho
Semi-permanent +30 crit is silly
visual lava
2 piece fulgur is still pretty good tho for max might
that's what I use for GS currently
meager kernel
2 piece Fulgur gives 2nd wind 1, which is p good
full sage
haaa, chain crit really has changed throughout the years
(chain crit was astalos's signature armor skill back when it first came out, which granted Repeat Offender, additional affinity after hitting a monster repeatedly. then in sunbreak, when it came back with astalos it uh. didn't do that anymore, instead buffing attack and element after repeated hits.
... then they renamed it burst in a title update because you can't call it chain crit if it doesn't have anything to do with crits.
... now it's just burst in wilds.)
meager kernel
I kinda want to learn a second weapon in MH:Wilds and I'm thinking about finally learning Bow
desert light
Good luck! I've never been good at any of the ranged weapons
desert light
(chain crit was astalos's signature armor skill back when it first came out, whi...
I'd love to get astalos back, because he's such a cool fight. Not sure we will though
Partly because he was just in Sunbreak, but also because overlap with Rey Dau. One of those, sure, but both of those seem unlikely
teal halo
if we do i hope he gets a banger turf war with Reylgun
hollow comet
ebony odogaron is tough 
frank epoch
ebony odogaron is tough <:weheline:893752315171962880>
you needing any help?
void narwhal
I always forget how flippy that dog is compared to Normaltype
'Surely I'm safe way over here' /360 aerial snipe
hollow comet
I always forget how *flippy* that dog is compared to Normaltype
yeah it's so hyper
😭
it's done!
thankfully there was an absolute hater of a legiana that kept it on the ground a bunch
teal halo
buppy
hollow comet
both of these look pretty cool so i'm thinking of picking up a ranged weapon
i've been struggling with sns, but CB has been really fun 
real zodiac
Shit, wilds specifically is crashing my pc
desert light
Oh no 😦
real zodiac
Yeah, PC's been running fine all day, hunted a lala barina, and then shortly after my PC BSOD'd
Same error I got as I got three times last night playing wilds
fathom osprey
Yeah, PC's been running fine all day, hunted a lala barina, and then shortly aft...
What controller are you using
real zodiac
DS edge
real zodiac
I think I may have been on bluetooth, yeah
fathom osprey
Try wiring up, it fixed the same problem for a friend of mine 
desert light
Wohoo
managed to do the cooking minigame perfectly
complete with the SO TASTY yell
real zodiac
Hmm, nope, just froze into bspd while using wired
Will dig out a different controller tomorrow to see if that helps
verbal copper
There's been some problems for folk since the last update
desert light
Insect glaive and Charge blade dindt exist till MH4
Switch Axe came in with Tri
...whcih was missing a ton of weapons until P3rd
(No dual blades and sevral other htings, tri was werid)
desert light
Yup
Way bakxc when Greatsword and Longsword were the same weapon too
In some respects World and Wilds are werid becuase they didnt introduce new weapons 9htough i understand their logic and agree with it, as much as i want ot see Punching wepaon and a harpoon/spear style weapon)
snow helm
Give me a rope dart/meteor hammer
Meteor Hammer is my pick, I feel like we ought to have a quick, light blunt weapon to complement the big slow (though not actually that slow) hammer
meager kernel
Imagine your hunter doing one of those spinning jumps, then kicking out a foot and just Line Shot of DOOM
desert light
Welll, that's why i want a fist wepaon that's just PUNCH
harpoon/spear i imagine haivng a rope, or having mutliple, so it actually has ranged play as it's gimmick, flicking between stabbing and slicing and hurling
I kinda want htem to bring back the Great Boomerang concept art they had
Which was a greatsword sized boomerang, and giant punching gloves
you threw the boomerang, then punched it to keep it airborne
...and puncehd htem onster
meager kernel
Meteor Hammer is my pick, I feel like we ought to have a quick, light blunt weap...
They could use the same/similar animations, so some of the variants would be Meteor Hammer/Blunt and others would be Rope Dart/Slash
snow helm
The other part of it, in my mind, is that having it be a chain weapon let's it also counterpoint the hammers abysmal range with a slightly longer range option
meager kernel
Its core mechanic would be called "Momentum"
desert light
Realstically, tehy've said why they're not doing another weapon any time soon
whixch is it sucks up dev resources
that could go to wards imrpoving all the eixsting weapons
same reason swimming combat is unlikely to ever come back
as it results in doubling at least the weapon count
meager kernel
I think it would build with standard attacks and then be consumed by aerial attacks, which many of your combo finishers would be (in addition to Jumping/Plunging attacks)
stiff dust
same reason swimming combat is unlikely to ever come back
thank god
meager kernel
I never experienced swimming combat, but from my understanding it was pretty janky
Is that correct?
brave hazel
Sure looked like it
stiff dust
i do not have fond memories of it
heady stone
I never experienced swimming combat, but from my understanding it was pretty jan...
I played 3U, did my first Underwater hunt and fully dropped the game. So clunky
meager kernel
I played 3U, did my first Underwater hunt and fully dropped the game. So clunky
yikes
That's.... somehow worse than I was led to expect from all the people begging for it back
brave hazel
I assume they want it back with new-gen "We figured out how to make a game that controls well" design sensibilities, because it sure as hell LOOKS thematic and cool
...what was old MonHun thinking with controls, some of the schemes were jank as shit
stiff dust
i honestly think it mostly looks goofy
brave hazel
Fair
brave hazel
...what was old MonHun thinking with controls, some of the schemes were jank as ...
Like, why in the hell was the Attack button bound to R3 directional inputs of all things???
meager kernel
Like, why in the hell was the Attack button bound to R3 directional inputs of al...
wtf?
That's crazy
brave hazel
Old-ass video games in general had weird controls though tbf
desert light
The problem with Underwater combat
is that it exists in full 3D.
So you not only move on the XY axis
but you have to accoutn for the Z axis too
This is a lot
Also because it's got a Z axis, and you're in the water, everything thaat the human brain uses to help judge depth is not there
Also Hymnstrigan get
@meager kernel to perhaps better describe why water combat was bad:
You know how in Dark Souls/Elden RIng it really fuckin' sucks when you fight anything that's way too big for the camera? Because the game's at its best when it's doing "Sligbhtly bigger than you" humanoids?
Now imagine that you have to do everything whiel acounting for moving vertically as well as in the horizotnal, and you start sto get an idea of why water combat was Not Good
it was comptely awful, but there were things like Lagiacru's spiral dash attack that were near imposfsible to dodge
(And i'm saying that form the perspective of i beat everythuing upto and including Dire miralis, though i dont think i ever fought Abyssal Lagi)
snow helm
Adding a 3D flying melee combat game to a normal, attached to the ground melee combat basically just requires balancing an entire second game, which just doesn't make a lot of sense
desert light
Yeah
snow helm
If they were going to make underwater combat again they would just have to make a Monster Hunter but with only underwater combat
Which might be an interesting spin off, if don't well, but I don't see Capcom ever deciding that that makes any sense to do
At least half baked non-traditional hunt mechanics like Rampage leave you with your normal movement and combat
Incidentally, because my computer can't handle wilds/I'm waiting for patches, I'm playing through Rise for the first time and I'm curious if I'm missing out on anything by entirely ignoring Rampage missions outside the story required ones
desert light
YOu misso ut on it's apexes? Which are neat enough, i guess
I didnt find Ramapges as obnixous as everyone else did, but i didnt super miss em come Sunbreak either
stiff dust
what's rampage? never got into rise
meager kernel
I found Rampages kind boring, ngl
meager kernel
what's rampage? never got into rise
Tower Defense Monster Hunter
snow helm
Yeah that's really the bigger thing
stiff dust
hmm
snow helm
Essentially a sequence of weaker than normal monsters try to smash down a gate that you have to defend with automatic cannons and ballistas (and some other deployable things) and you have to stop them
It can actually get a little hectic
But it's more just that it's clearly not what monster Hunter is set up to do so it feels kind of chaotic and weird in a bad way
desert light
It's one of those theory it's fun, in practice you really need 4 player who know what they're oding
as a change of pace, it's great
meager kernel
I maybe have a warped view of it
desert light
as a core end game activity, eh
meager kernel
Cause I never got into HR of Rise
But with 3 players who knew what they were doing
desert light
But i think they took a bad endgame activity and replaced it with an even worse one in Sunbreak
meager kernel
Rampages were just...
meager kernel
"Stand here, point gun, and occasionally run over there and pull lever"
snow helm
(Random skill grinding on armor is not what i'm here for)
I'm very glad I'm playing the game long after the fact so I can just mod out the RNG if I want to
I feel no guilt for just cheating in an Almudron orb after fighting it nine times, smashing all its parts, and capturing it and not getting one
On the gameplay side though Rise feels amazing, I will say
Swaxe especially with the wirebug skill to attack through monsters attacks
desert light
I have mixed feelings on RIse's gameplay. when it was good it wa real good
but def the crazy pace of things was... a lot
and it lost soem of the texture and flavor i like in mosnter hunter
like mining nodes taking multiple hits, the makework that hot/cold drinks are... thesse are very minor things, but they absoloutely contirubte a sense of weight and texture
snow helm
I get you, the mining only taking one hit feels especially weird
Especially because they replace the make work with new make work
Like collecting the spirit birds
Which just feels designed to make me waste my time, while they're taking out other things that felt like they only existed to waste my time
desert light
The spirit b irds are objectively awful.
Like i get the idea, i like thei dea of "Parkour colelctibles"
but Parkour buffs that you have to get to achive max hp/defn/atk is just
snow helm
It's a really strange mix of good and bad, I will admit
desert light
NOPE
A chjunk of other stuff like how the skills are gated is frustarting too
Dual Blades takes quite a bit of time to get it's full kit
it's full kit is AMAZING
snow helm
Yeah, Swaxe also feels that way
mystic cape
Rampages did have one good thing: Dope Ass Music
desert light
but holy shit does it take a dogshit level of time to get stuff
mystic cape
You listen to the Rampage theme and tell me you don't feel hype to defend some gates
desert light
even in bloody Sunbreak it took a while to get your new good switch skills
snow helm
Especially with wanting both power prolonger AND the morph speed one
desert light
That said, Rise did delivero ne of the best i wish i was recording moments iv'e ever had
Diablos charges me, i use the Dual Blade's counter
There's a collsion, i land stylishs, and diablos goes crashing to the ground as it's tail flies off
snow helm
I had almost the exact same thing happen just yesterday, using invincible gambit to just attack through a charging Tigrex and lop it's tail off
That sort of thing feels incredible
It's one of those things with MH in general where there's all this annoying and obtuse crap to wade through sometimes but when it hits boy does it fucking hit
desert light
That said i think what wilds does with the offset attacks etci s al ot better
Everything Has a Counter was uh
pants
Offsets, perfect blocks, perfect dodges as a trio and various wepaons having mixes of these is much nicer
meager kernel
There will come a day where I successfully time the Longsword counters
Today is not this day
mystic cape
Yeah they take some practice
desert light
Woprth learning tho
meager kernel
Any advice/tricks other than "repetition"?
meager kernel
Woprth learning tho
The like... 4 times I've pulled it off, I felt like a goddess
desert light
Uh
Practice
I dont know a lot about how they work
Not al ongsword person
at least for offset attacks, yo uhave to have the attack frames smack into a monster's attack frames
meager kernel
Practice
Well, yeah, but is the "Practice" in this case just a function of repetition or is there some specific method/monsters that help more?
desert light
This is very funny on greatsword because it's attack frames last fucking ofrever on it's offset
so sometimes the mosnter will touch the very trail end when the sword isup brehind your head
and then get sent flying
RIP Little guy
meager kernel
RIP Mx. Ballon Animal
desert light
@meager kernel This has some good advice
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ixcn3aFiWQs this also seems like a good guide
mystic cape
The like... 4 times I've pulled it off, I felt like a goddess
I will say the timing isn't always as tight as it seems. You need to get hit during the "counter" part of the animation. For the Foresight Slash this is between when you start and right before you come in for the return slash. For Iai Spirit Slash this is when you're grabbing the handle and right before you start swinging. Small, but not as small as it may first seem.
meager kernel
... should I be using Spirit Release Slash or just Helmbreaker?
mystic cape
Depends on your opening
If the monster is in the zone long enough the Spirit Release hits will follow
meager kernel
👍
mystic cape
Plus if the monster has Wounds. Popping one puts you back to Yellow and you can follow a wound pop with Spirit Slash 3, then Roundslash to go right back to red and the annoyingly potent Crimson Slash 1 and Spirit Slash 1 repeating endless death combo
meager kernel
I love the vast gulf of Monster Hunter playthrough content out there
There's "hi, hello, i've never hunt monster before, i love whacking big guy" and "This Game is My Life. I've put more hours into all previous Monster Hunters than you have existed outside your mother. I have mastered every weapon and every option. When you ask for Him or Her or Them, that is ME. Fatalis quakes beneath my gaze." and they're both excellent
brave hazel
MonHun videos fall into three categories:
"First time playing, hope I have fun :]"
"DEMOLISHING THE FINAL BOSS IN 3.5 PICTOSECONDS"
"Can You Beat The Game With Just A Kinsect"
visual lava
I kinda want to learn a second weapon in MH:Wilds and I'm thinking about finally...
I was trying bow out last night and was really enjoying it. It's cool bc there are a few different playstyles you can have with it depending on which moves you want to focus on. Plus it also has arguably one of the best focus strikes in the game, at least that's my impression so far
brave hazel
MonHun videos fall into three categories:
"First time playing, hope I have fun ...
That last one is real btw, and it's absolutely hysterical
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlTkzEmzOh4&t=373s
verbal copper
Ahh the patience elemental himself
brave hazel
Waow, it's Nuts from Berk but as a kbity
stiff dust
i do not miss underwater fight 💀
eager anchor
I think it could work
With modern controls and camera
But at the same time I remember needing to use sns and gunlance specifically underwater because of the movement they had
verbal copper
I will doot the little mermaid song
void narwhal
Water Combat was a Slog, but moreso than that, it's a whole system of awkward combat specifically for just a few of the enemies on offer
eager anchor
How many monsters could you fight underwater again? It was lagi gobul sponge plesi
2 elders
Zamtrios would kill us if we could fight them in the water.
Until the 3rd phase where he'd just float to the surface and flail
void narwhal
Zamtrios inflates too deep underwater and just detonates
Also I forgot the sponge could be fought in the underwater section, it was so much simpler to draw him onto land
vocal haven
il ike water combat
butm ostly cause the water mnsters are all sick as fuck
i lov globul
lone citrus
I think water combat is oddly popular just because it's an unexplored area of creatures
Like there's a lot of cool purely aquatic monsters that could be cool to explore
And despite my hatred of Gobul I do agree it would be cool to see it again
stiff dust
trying out the insect glaive and i feel like im doing something wrong with chaining its normal attacks into charged attack (with red buff)
mystic cape
You can hold the charge attack down at the same time as doing the pirmary attack combo. My undertanding is, without focus, you can do two primary attacks then finish with the charge attack (but you need red buff to access the charge attack on secondary button to begin with)
stiff dust
oh i can precharge it? like fighting games charge input?>
mystic cape
Yeah, you can hold it indefinitely as far as I'm aware, then just release it during combo or when you want to use the offset part (the first motion from what I'm aware)
stiff dust
ohhh
mystic cape
Issue is it can be awkward to do physically. Like depending on control scheme you may need to claw hand it a bit
stiff dust
that's an awkward hand position but i'll figure it out
mystic cape
Or you hold down the triangle/b button with the lower part of your thumb around the flex point and use the upper part to press the triangle/y button
stiff dust
just landed my first aerial offset. the world is so beautiful
desert light
I think it could work
They've said it's not happening again, was it would require implementing another 14 weapons in effect
visual lava
oh i can precharge it? like fighting games charge input?>
Boxer players rejoice lol
verbal copper
Doesn't this mean it's bad to go to level 5? Am I understanding wrong?
verbal copper
True, just... staying alive is also useful
frank epoch
if you wanna play around at low health and don't feel like you won't get hit ever, you can stay at level 4
vocal haven
its so much dmg
frank epoch
if you know you're untouchable, you've got level 5
verbal copper
I'm unfortunately rubbish at not being hit
but also... tempting to just go with the 30% for now
just got to remember I'm still a little squishy
but yeah, it's my hero get up
visual lava
level 5 is basically just for speedrunners
verbal copper
I mean, with divine protection 3 as well I can play a little more dangerous
specially if I have a horn with some heals to raise me out of the dangerous areas on command
@frank epoch it's so god damn beautiful
frank epoch
i don't know if divine blessing will work with heroics 5
visual lava
even if it does, it's pretty risky, seeing as how Divine Blessing is random
verbal copper
better to have than not
visual lava
don't get me wrong, it's pretty strong and I use it on plenty of my sets
but I wouldn't be willing to bet on it to save me while using Heroics
verbal copper
I do enjoy
the gamble
Someone joined a mission called "brooklyn queer". Wunderbar.
Killed an octopus together
desert light
Kill monster. Whyt arent i getting quest complete?
Realzie i've just gone and murdered the entirey wrong creature. RIP
verbal copper
Ha did that before too
"oh wait, a GUARDIAN one" while I'm beating the crap out of a creature
Hey, once more a silly question for chat:
What the frick is wind pressure?
It's not the yelling, what is it?
outer heron
monsters beating their wings and creating strong winds
i think literally the only monster in wilds with wind pressure rn is arkveld
classically, it's a kushala daora standard
verbal copper
Where the frick do you get the burst skill from... doesn't seem it has jewels
outer heron
it does
verbal copper
is it a weapon thing?
verbal copper
yeah I know it's on some sets cause I was trying to buff it on my Udra stuff
unfortunately I have not found any ;-;
verbal copper
middle of high rank I think?
frank epoch
ebony odogaron head B and arms A gets you 4 levels of Burst
verbal copper
that's a lotta burst
outer heron
which are mostly from mid and late tempered monsters and from av/gore
incl. tempered
verbal copper
I guess it just hadn't dropped for me yet cause it's a tier 3 gem
and I just got my set of udra stuff after I unlocked their stuff
outer heron
apexes drop them
just cruise for apex investigations while you're doing something else
and pop in every once in a while
verbal copper
yeah, just had no way to tell they existed.
outer heron
or advance time with points
verbal copper
I can't go look for them if I don't know they exist
verbal copper
Pretty much I'm just doing the apex ones now, but I wanted the full udra set because I love that weird goo monster look
outer heron
nu udra is very cool
verbal copper
it gives you like two points in burst which is why I hungered for more burst, but unfortunately failed to dig it out
cause it's tier 3
outer heron
not really
fathom osprey
You can get a Burst talisman at least
outer heron
the best generators are usually ||gore and arkveld||, which are the post-HR pair
and tempered apexes, which also require HR41
fathom osprey
But idk when that one unlocks
outer heron
meaning post-HR
outer heron
But idk when that one unlocks
rank 1 is HR conga & nerscylla parts
rank 2 is iirc gore parts
fathom osprey
Ah that's pretty easy to get for the basic one
verbal copper
I felt kinda bad ass just then cause I'm fighting Rey and I managed to offset melody the move where they're flying along dragging their wings through the floor
smacking them out of the sky just before they got me
outer heron
offsets feel v cool, yeah
verbal copper
What do you need to do for offets on other weapons and such?
Like you need a specific song for horn, what do others need?
outer heron
on most it's just an attack
greatsword's is the freest
very fast, very generous
switch axe just needs to be in axe mode and is a bit slower than GS, but still straightforward
hammer's is at the end of its light attack chain
real zodiac
I believe the raths have some wind pressure?
outer heron
IG's needs all kinsects to be active, but is another just-a-single-input
real zodiac
The monsterpedia lists specials like that, as well as blights in special attacks
outer heron
and hbg's is on one of its super modes
and is a charged detonation like GS's but slower
outer heron
usually just "press a specific attack button", but si
ig and hammer have the tricky ones besides hh
verbal copper
hammer is closest to horn
since you need to do attacks to set it up, but you can at least store it for later on the horn
a nice trick is to do the inputs, then do the inputs except the final one again, so you can use offset, then hit once, and have anoter offset immediately if you need it
amber frost
Man i'm having a tough time finding a secondary to charge blade
it's not even a situation of me not liking certain things, i've found a lot of weapons i love thanks to their wilds versions
the current main contenders are SNS and GL
verbal copper
you could do what I do? Just have a secondary weapon of a different element
full horn for me bby
balmy swan
my go-to secondary regardless of main has been LBG, just because sometimes it's nice to be able to back off and pepper the monster from a longer distance
i've also been using DBs for elemental weaknesses
frank epoch
Man i'm having a tough time finding a secondary to charge blade
it's not even ...
Join the hunting horn squad
Join the Horn Pub
teal halo
Join the Horn Pub
is it ok for me to be there if i only use horn on occasion?
frank epoch
Sure
verbal copper
Going full horn isn't for everyone, but a bit of side horn is always welcome
frank epoch
Double horn is a way of life, only for the most beautiful and intelligent and interesting and alluring hunters
verbal copper
Also I do it
outer heron
verbal copper
I have killed ||Gore|| and then I farmed the frick out of them for a weapon and their gear set
halcyon fractal
real Nu Udra hours
verbal copper
He's such a fun creature
Makes you look super evil in their gear though
very drippy and tentacley
halcyon fractal
the Lich Fit(tm)
hollow comet
velkhana got hands
i thought i was gonna be like "I HAVE FOUGHT THIS ELDER DRAGON BEFORE" but i'm getting smacked
halcyon fractal
I always liked the headcanon that Malzeno and Velkhana are related somehow
(morphology, evolutionary, or they're just bitter ex's)
real zodiac
okay, switched to my switch controller, over and hour if play, no crash
verbal copper
hopefully I should unlock level 8 gear soon as I am a tomfool and like to mess around
amber frost
Man i'm having a tough time finding a secondary to charge blade
it's not even ...
I decided on th only true path for me
big sword and shield and little sword and shield
amber frost
Now if only i can wield both shields
verbal copper
Honestly if there was a double shield option I might even switch of horn for that
I know regular lance is massive shielding but also I want to be The Wall
amber frost
They're specifically dual charge blade shields and you can build up phials to empower them and make em S P I N
visual lava
big sword and shield and little sword and shield
I ran this pair for a while but eventually swapped over to charge blade switchaxe
visual lava
Damn, like $1400 in upgrades?
hollow comet
stray oriole
Damn, like $1400 in upgrades?
I ship of theseus'ed my computer. Heres the kicker, that wasn't the problem! And I still have no clue how I fixed it.
I rebuilt my pc, tried a handful of things and nothing was working. Left to work an 8 hour shift. Come back home and immediately get ready to try something new. The game loads in like 10 seconds, no flickering or anything. Just flat out works. Stable(ish) 60fps on ultra
Machine spirit moment
desert light
They gota make Fucium and Gracium more common
they only spawn on 1 map each, only form mining nodes, and they're the semi-rare drop from those mining nodes
and i need 58 Gracium just for both armor sets that use it ;.;
visual lava
Geologist helps but it's definitely a bit annoying
I don't think I ever needed quite that much though, at least not all at once.
desert light
Oh, i have geologist
trust me, i have the buffs, i have the build!
but when you hit up 3 mining nodes in a row and none of them drop a single bit of greacium
visual lava
Ironically, I probably spent more time grinding for my Gathering set then I've spent actively using it
graceful snow
I know I needed 50 gracium for...something but I just made a gathering set and ate a meal with truffle du conga
desert light
Mine's made out of various trading only parts
desert light
So Suja Waist, Sild head, Azuz legs
graceful snow
Also in case people were wondering, you can sever tails with a dragon piercer shot
verbal copper
Remember as well for geologist stuff, you can same loadouts so you can switch back and forth from your geology stuff to your usual gear
Also good lord Barclay that's a hell of an upgrade. Enjoy the new computer, hope it last you a long while
and we should definitely smack monsters together
stray oriole
odd compass
Hey gang, been considering getting into mh for a bit, but I tried the demo for wilds recently and it was not running well on my pc. Do the rest of the mh games also run on the harder side, or is that just a wilds thing - and if there are some that run better, which game would people recommend starting with?
frank epoch
Hey gang, been considering getting into mh for a bit, but I tried the demo for w...
it's mostly just a wilds thing. I think the only other ones that are on steam are world/iceborne and rise/sunbreak
outer heron
also the demo lies
you should just buy the real game and refund it if it doesn't work
because the demo & stress tests just
did not have the stability of the full game
odd compass
ahh gotcha, that makes sense
frank epoch
as for which of those i'd recommend, do you prefer more thoughtful, deliberate combat? or do you prefer fast-paced, arcadey combat?
outer heron
(even if the actual game still has bugs too)
(it's not nearly as unstable or buggy as the beta or as intensive as the performance test)
frank epoch
Hey gang, been considering getting into mh for a bit, but I tried the demo for w...
fwiw i've got a 4070 and some kind of midrange i7 and at very high settings on 1080p I run about 40ish fps
odd compass
as for which of those i'd recommend, do you prefer more thoughtful, deliberate c...
I'd say likely more on the slower side
odd compass
fwiw i've got a 4070 and some kind of midrange i7 and at very high settings on 1...
from what I can tell (I'm not super knowledgeable about pc components) I have a 1050 and an i5 of some sort, but I also don't necessarily mind running it on lower graphics
frank epoch
you can try to run the game at some of the lowest settings to see if it works alright for you, and if it doesn't, you can refund it
but with those specs I wouldn't keep my hopes up
odd compass
yeah I might give it a shot but I'd be surprised if it runs well
frank epoch
I'd say likely more on the slower side
I'd recommend world/iceborne for you then. it runs way better than wilds does currently, and will have that kind of combat
odd compass
gotcha, thanks! it seems like the minimum requirements that steam lists for world are a bit below what I have so it should work fine - I'll look into picking it up next time it goes on sale
near bane
what is better, magazine 3 or offensive guard 3 on the gun lance ?
glacial vale
Magazine only goes up to 2
And I would say off guard anyway
Magazine only gets you one extra shell
outer heron
what is better, magazine 3 or offensive guard 3 on the gun lance ?
are you referring to load shells in wilds?
near bane
yeah
outer heron
load shells is the best skill in the game for gunlance, so it should be your first slot 100% of the time on 100% of gunlances
near bane
Magazine only goes up to 2
oops, meant 2
outer heron
size 3 load shells decos will still be load shells 2, but will have a second skill on it
near bane
unfortunately thanks to some bright might at campcom you can have artillery, offensive guard and magazine without sacrificing something
outer heron
basically, wide shelling is far and away the strongest shelling type
and artillery + load shells further improve wide
near bane
have a friend who is stuborn about offensive guard being better than load shells
outer heron
mathematically it's not
visual lava
You'd only want to skip load shells if you're using Normal
outer heron
except on normal, yeah
which is fine
but it's a lot weaker than wide, due to how crazy strong wyvern fire (especially wide wyvern fire) is
and the way shelling recharges wyvern's fire
and even the super long full combo string
desert light
I am so bad vsGore.
Only fainted once, but eesh, terrible fight
(that is, i did terrible)
visual lava
Gore just does so much more damage than all the other monsters for some reason
balmy swan
get bonked
hollow comet
indeed!
i did forget to slot effluvia res
and got knocked down into a meaty aoe for 1 faint
but smooth sailing otherwise
desert light
Gore just does so much more damage than all the other monsters for some reason
It's not even damage, it's his moveset havign a lot of funky delays and other stuff that throws off my attempts to offset etc
visual lava
not to mention probably the worst visibility in the game
desert light
I dont find it's visiblity too bad, honestly, but it is a little funky
amber frost
I wish i had a good comment on the gore stuff, ive fought him in every game he's been in so i feel like any advice i can offer is marred by familiarity
amber frost
Sorry, rambling