woooof
#Monster Hunter
outer heron
huge fan of the top half, yeah
the mask fucking slaps
the gauntlets are just
perfectly aligned with my taste in gauntlets
winged crest
(still dreaming of gauntlets weapon)
outer heron
and the chestpiece itself has a kinda wacky combination of like...sexy with the skin it's showing and "weird monster fuckery"
i dig it
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or the Nergi DBs
outer heron
(still dreaming of gauntlets weapon)
the real answer is probably just more DBs like the nergi and rajang ones
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and the chestpiece itself has a kinda wacky combination of like...sexy with the ...
reminds me of the R. Ludroth mail
all rubbery and vibrant with exposed skin
outer heron
yeah
winged crest
i get where you're both coming from but those are more claws than gauntlets aren't they
outer heron
which are?
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I mean
outer heron
the nergi dbs are more claw than just glove, yeah
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they're gauntlets you put on your arms
outer heron
but not the gold monkey
winged crest
i refuse to be satisfied until it's articulate fingers and fast impact damage and GRAB A BITCH BY THE HORNS and maybe even some other wacky business
winged crest
put emitters on the palm and the back of the hand for rocket punches and exploding palms
the who
outer heron
world guy
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the guy who looks like Rajang
the one who holds up the rock in Iceborne Rajang's cutscene
winged crest
ah
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that guy
outer heron
this is another beautiful shield, on the topic
winged crest
yeah it's time to beat up monsters in person
winged crest
this is another beautiful shield, on the topic
hey I just spent five minutes trying to find a shot like that
outer heron
and i mentioned last time, but i love the crossguard on it
winged crest
yeah isn't it pretty
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this is another beautiful shield, on the topic
its very pretty 👀
the ornate silver decor... woof
outer heron
it looks so good
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ouhhhh
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t looks like it
outer heron
because it's incredible
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it has the mane of doshaguma
winged crest
maybe it's a uhhh
outer heron
true, and it's paired with a weapon that shares the design as the lbg and gl
so doshu seems likely
the fact that the female mask is just an iron grate is a travesty though
winged crest
maybe it's these guys' set?
winged crest
i'm not entirely sure how big they count as
outer heron
in the baggi/jagras sense
winged crest
they're pretty big physically
outer heron
no oil mention
oil?
outer heron
oh right
gentle knoll
SNS has a mechanic back in GU/XX where you can apply oil
it's a REALLY unlikely returning mechanic but i ALWAYS hope
outer heron
they were so broken though
winged crest
and also small monsters have had sets before, especially those with a pack leader
outer heron
"here's a free +30% affinity"
gentle knoll
they were so broken though
i'm a casual who enjoys the brokeness, see also: aerial greatsword (hey would you like free charged hit that ignores bounce?)
outer heron
"here's free mind's eye"
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and you can't forget chaos oil
which applied all 3 of them
what was the third oil?
winged crest
I'm suggesting this mostly because the alpha has this striking red mane
you'd expect its armor to feature that in some way
gentle knoll
stamina drain
gentle knoll
In MHGen, SnS now can use items called Oils, with the following effects added to the weapon on use:
Affinity Oil: Adds 30% Affinity.
Stamina Oil: Attacks deal Exhaust/KO damage on hit.
Destroyer Oil: Acts like Partbreaker.
Mind's Eye Oil: Acts like Mind's Eye.
Only one can be effective at once, and the effects last for a limited time. However, they can be used with all hunting styles.Destroyer Oil made a return in Monster Hunter Rise: Sunbreak as a silkbind attack.
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wait what do you mean oils are in sunbreak
outer heron
with chaos
gentle knoll
just the destroyer one
outer heron
I'm suggesting this mostly because the alpha has this striking red mane
that's part of a rage state
gentle knoll
part of why i was hoping for ANOTHER return
outer heron
it's not red by default
gentle knoll
since i'm greedy
winged crest
it's not red by default
...is that really not one of the normal ones?
outer heron
that?
winged crest
that
outer heron
that's the picture of the big doshaguma
winged crest
:U
winged crest
where are baby's eyes anyways
and also uhhhhh oops I just spent all this time assuming the main difference was color
outer heron
probably, yeah
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should be self explanatory
winged crest
it looks so goofy <3
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speaking of which
Balahara might seem blind
but it actually has eyes
close up of whirlgig mouth here, so be careful
outer heron
this is such a cool attack too
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YEAH
outer heron
close up of whirlgig mouth here, so be careful
yeah it has mollusc eyes
was discussed way back with the og trailer
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this is such a cool attack too
loading a Death Stranding device on your gun to shoot it at a monster is SO cool
outer heron
it's a really cool design
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oh rite
winged crest
if I had a penny for every large monster with a split jaw that glows blue inside,
outer heron
THE THINGAMAJIG
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if I had a penny for every large monster with a split jaw that glows blue inside...
what's the second one?
OH
gaisma
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for a sec i was thinking of Nakarkos
outer heron
god i love that both the bowguns seem to just be fully rapid now
except special ammo
outer heron
and lbg's ignition mode lets you fucking sprint around like John Halo
while shooting
you slam on a drum mag and start blasting
i'm
so
fucking
excited
for this game
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you slam on a drum mag and start blasting
if you look closely, when firing with the drum, the little doodad at the back of it spins
outer heron
it's such a gizmo
vocal haven
I would looove nakarkos coming back
outer heron
same
snow helm
This weapon does feel like basically Rakna Kadaki confirmation
which is fucking awesome
I feel like World dropped the ball a little not having any bug monsters
rich valve
I would be surprised if they redesigned rakna kadaki's weapons immediately
outer heron
i assume it's a new temnoceran, yeah
rich valve
I am with you on "World needed more bugs"
outer heron
world's engine tried to do a fucking lot
and succeeded with...frankly, most of it
i think they probably didn't really try to add temnocerans because of their failed attempts at leviathans, and the mountain of other work
snow helm
I would be surprised if they redesigned rakna kadaki's weapons immediately
Fair point, the webbing in the shield is just uncannily like Rakna's webbing between her legs
outer heron
but i'm super glad that, along with those leviathans, it seems like the engine's gotten bugs down
snow helm
Also true, you can really tell how little they had to work with with World when you look back on i
vocal haven
bugs good
i have the faintest hope
we will see Ahtal-Ka back.
but 90% not. its just to grand of a thing i would imagine
outer heron
that would be very interesting in the new engine
rich valve
some people were speculating this weapon may be from a moth instead of a spider and personally im unsure about that but i think that an animation skeleton for a moth dragging around a big abdomen would be very cool (assuming its not just a flying wyvern)
vocal haven
Ahtal-Ka is a top 2/3 monster for me and prob top 1 fight
In terms of spectacle I dont think there is anyting that can beat it
outer heron
i think it looks too much like a thick, glossy spiderweb to be silk, yeah
it could also be like
wing webbing from something similar to vaal hazak, though?
with the tatters
but i think it probably signifies a spider of some sort
rich valve
one which also has the armour motifs "knight" and "roses"
outer heron
yeah, some kind of armored arthropod would be interesting
rich valve
although sometimes armour is just a little random
outer heron
weapons are usually a bit less random!
rich valve
almudron doesnt really have an obvious connection to medabots unless im missing something
winged crest
we will see Ahtal-Ka back.
Sending thoughts and prayers for our homegirl
They should give her a gun
snow helm
They always do some Egyptian thing with Kushala and I've never really understood that connection
outer heron
i don't think the roses part of that set is likely to be associated
but the fancy-ass knight decals on the weapon itself probably mean some kind of elegant armored bastard
snow helm
I would think maybe a different new temnoceran
outer heron
what do you mean "different" new?
vocal haven
I just firmly am in favour to kill kush and never bring it back
outer heron
they haven't previewed any temnocerans for this theoretical to be different from
unless i missed an announcement
vocal haven
or to like make it more coherent
why is kush a cool metallic looking drake but then all about wind
I never really understood that
snow helm
Oh sorry i just meant different from Kadaki, so redundant with new
outer heron
why is kush a cool metallic looking drake but then all about wind
elder dragons usually have more than one thing going on for em visually
not all, but i don't think it's too egregious
outer heron
i'm not a fan of the wind spam fights either, but i'm personally a fan of the metal part
vocal haven
I dont think teo has that issue for me although i think it would be cool for it to have more fur
teal halo
Kush Teo and Cham need to leave for a gen imo
winged crest
Make room for the grand return of CEADEUS
winged crest
It's cool
teal halo
Vaal hazak already had a black veil of corpses
outer heron
i would prefer to not see rathalos, kushala, or teostra/lunastra for the theoretical future gen 7, yeah
teal halo
You didn’t need to cover my girl in shrooms
vocal haven
blackveil is dope
also
bring back deviants****
and actually call them deviants
i see you rise, they aint apexes!
winged crest
Why would you want THE homeboy OG absent
vocal haven
rath can take a nap for like 1 gen
outer heron
because it's the charizard of monster hunter, and i want other things in the roster?
vocal haven
I would be ok with like a more drastically different rathalos subspecies
and not
rathalos but blue
teal halo
Blackveil is cool in concept, it’s fucking terrifying to think about, but you couldn’t have added the missing piece of the good old elder trio?
outer heron
it's the series flagship and been the flagship of three or four different games after MH1
and it has a constant spotlight
give it a fucking rest for a gen
vocal haven
honestly i kinda feel the same about diablos but like diablos is 100% gonna be in wilds
outer heron
diablos is the number two to rathalos, and i wouldn't mind it also taking a break
vocal haven
nibelsnarf with the tech that corpses are now solid would be so funny
winged crest
The true kings if monhun
outer heron
snarf seems like it has good odds of coming back
outer heron
gypceros?
vocal haven
yaya
winged crest
Yeah the desert business does have me thinking of jhen
vocal haven
gypceros is the play dead one no?
winged crest
Yea
vocal haven
The chance of Jhen Moran is def also above 50% i would say
outer heron
if you use those statuses against it
winged crest
The problem with gypceros is that that trick kind of relies on you not knowing that
vocal haven
updated jhen moran fight on the boat would be dope
and then make stage 2 actually more of a fight instead of "lets hit the feet" and then having to walk around 3 spots to carve
outer heron
The problem with gypceros is that that trick kind of relies on you not knowing t...
this is why we need a new monster with a similar gimmick
a vaal hazak-esque scavenger elder dragon
winged crest
Anyway the complaints about rathalos are valid but the best solution, as always, isn't to take shit out, it's to put more shit in
outer heron
that'll feign death or statuses
desert light
i think they probably didn't really try to add temnocerans because of their fail...
IIRC, LEvitahans and Amphibians (and probably temocerens) all got cut because of engine issues wit how hte body and legs interacted with shifting terrain
outer heron
Anyway the complaints about rathalos are valid but the best solution, as always,...
incorrect
i actively want to not see rathalos
outer heron
IIRC, LEvitahans and Amphibians (and probably temocerens) all got cut because of...
yes
desert light
As in like "the body is clipping through the ground when on angled terrain"
teal halo
I feel like vaal should have been in her own trio
outer heron
that's what i was referring to
winged crest
that'll feign death or statuses
Same issue. As soon as it's done it once, cat's out of the bag
outer heron
with "failed attempts at leviathans"
winged crest
Shit, it's the internet, cat will never be in the bag
outer heron
sure, but who cares?
teal halo
I feel like vaal should have been in her own trio
And not shoehorned in to the main trio when they didn’t do Cham.
outer heron
the first shot will be great
vocal haven
I would be mega down, if we get a downsized Jhen moran we fight on foot
without a siege attached to it
winged crest
Why would you size him down he's just a little boy
outer heron
i'm just interested in seeing all the new monsters this time
vocal haven
my only other really big wish I think is amatsu
outer heron
i hope it's as large a roster as world
vocal haven
I really wanna see amatsu in the wild engine
outer heron
or tri
winged crest
It's time for me to drive in my autocar
Also, I'm gonna call Capcom to tell them to make a third rath
vocal haven
i actively want to not see rathalos
sad the hope died with the sns video xd
outer heron
the sword texturing was fantastic on it, at least
waste of an armor slot and waste of a fight
teal halo
sad the hope died with the sns video xd
No it died with the first trailer
outer heron
but cool weapon
desert light
that's what i was referring to
Yah, just adding context for people who might not be aware
outer heron
gotcha
vocal haven
well and that one ya
desert light
Bizzare take on Rath, also, but okay. It's iconic as hell, no way they're not always having rath in the game
vocal haven
can we atleast not have 2 raths in the game...
with one being the most boring subspecies known in existance
desert light
I mean, i'm fine if they dont bring back Azure and Pink
vocal haven
i hope they dont
teal halo
Rath is the classic and I get why you don’t want it but I like it so I can enjoy it and you don’t have to
vocal haven
i am gucci if they make it like, proper fucking sup species
desert light
(As long as 720 no scope flip gets given to default rathian)
because that is hilarious and always very funny to ssee total people
and i like Gold and Silver
vocal haven
also I would really like less of a focus on elder dragons
vocal haven
I think magnamalo was fucking great in rise
desert light
the only
outer heron
metal raths are the only version that aren't a boring fight
vocal haven
and it not being an elder
outer heron
i wouldn't mind them existing as dlc content
desert light
FATTEST LANDSHARK
vocal haven
I think zamtrios has good chances
teal halo
Zam would be fun
vocal haven
I think same with Tetsucabra
desert light
tbh, i'm going to be very surpsied if they're d ong subspecies in the base game again
vocal haven
Tetsucabra def seems like an easy slot i think
outer heron
but base and shiny raths have long overstayed their welcome
desert light
Tetsu's in the awkard postion of being an intro monster though
desert light
Not saying he wont come back, just he's harder to slot in compared to like, Anjath or later 4/5 star monsters
vocal haven
but base and shiny raths have long overstayed their welcome
i would be ok with base rathian/rathalos and then maybe dreadking and queen, since they do fight rather different
vocal haven
outer heron
a big enough threat to justify coming in alongside chatacabra
which is its replacement "early-game amphibian"
desert light
Baby Testu did get a good reception in Rise, at leasat
outer heron
imagine capcom remembering gigginox exists
teal halo
Khezu time
outer heron
they're afraid of replacing khezu with something that doesn't look like a penis
admitting their weakness
vocal haven
I do in general tho think i want less flying wyverns
esp with the levis back in the game
rich valve
I like khezu but I like gigginox more
and the "no music" gimmick is cute but i dont like it
teal halo
I do in general tho think i want less flying wyverns
We’ll likely get your wish
vocal haven
lightning railgun dragon can stay. they look cool
also cool to couple some monsters with weather conditions (like the lightning dragon) and maybe daytimes
outer heron
I like khezu but I like gigginox more
and the "no music" gimmick is cute but i d...
it's funny how much gigginox really is just "khezu but cooler"
vocal haven
in every way yap
outer heron
i hope we see more weather and time-of-day-dependent monsters
like the railgun goober
teal halo
People are calling him “Thor Magala”
vocal haven
man I really like that rise had a non elder dragon as its focus monster
I want more of that
teal halo
Agreed
vocal haven
go away protagonist nergi (not big nergi fan) and velkhana
althought velkhana was a cool monster
outer heron
i adored nergigante and velkhana visually
but yes, more non-elder focus again would be appreciated
the good ol days of lagiacrus
vocal haven
nergi never really clicked for me, maybe cause i dont think its v exciting to fight tho
outer heron
terrorizing small children and inspiring thalassaphobia
(ignore the ceadeus behind the curtain)
dark juniperBOT
glad to see people know what good design is.
Vero | Hotwheels Nelson Enjoyer ↩️
outer heron
(lagi's the real tri plot monster)
outer heron
fingers crossed that Wilds' forest-equivalent is similar
vocal haven
tri rainforest and the volcano map with the little forest in front of it I think might be 2 of my fav maps
WAIT
i just realised
AGNAKTOR HAS A CHANCE
prayge
teal halo
How?
outer heron
the windward plains look real fucking good already
outer heron
god balahara is so cool
teal halo
I have never fought it before and I wish to
outer heron
what a fantastic introduction of leviathans to the World engine
vocal haven
CLICK CLACK LASER BEAM
teal halo
Clam mouth sand snake which I love and want to kill and consume
I will feast on its flesh if it kills me
teal halo
We can only pray
vocal haven
also please more non standard looking elder dragon like monsters
i want those levi elders
gimme more amatsus and nakarkoses then the flying wyverns
vocal haven
ye agreed
malzeno i think while having some cool stuff was weirdly similiar to velkhana i thought
except that chest
outer heron
very visually similar, just off wings and posture, yeah
oh, i'd really like something similar to a nakarkos or yama tsukami
stuck needle
i hope its armor is cool
I'm expecting some kind of road warrior nonsense (positive), its skin looks too much like asphalt and tires for it not to turn into a mad max reference
vocal haven
nakarkos, amatsu, yama, dalamdur. give us those cool nonstandard elders
i beg for akantor and ukanlos
or a new mega ape (rajang can share the spotlight)
teal halo
New ape let it fight the old ape
outer heron
new fanged beasts would be great too, yeah
new monkey that's a kirin symbiote
and fights rajang
vocal haven
👀
teal halo
What if during the fight ITS DEVILJHO WITH A STEEL CHAIR
winged crest
I swear if they give us khezu over giginox one more time
Both
vocal haven
imagine if they just drop water combat out of the blue
outer heron
[bazelgeuse theme starts]
vocal haven
it would be so funny
outer heron
it would be based as fuck
vocal haven
let me punch the ground of the river to fuck up gobul
teal halo
I hope they add both bazel and val and tell no one
outer heron
new, second valstrax variant
vocal haven
val is so cool, def a top elder dragon but it might be stealin spotlight to much atm
def want to see it tho in wilds
winged crest
Also, I'm gonna call Capcom to tell them to make a third rath
I called them and they're adding Rathenus to Wilds
teal halo
Just, you’re out in the field, and suddenly you hear the song and fear hits you as explosions rain down. Then the comet arrives.
outer heron
def want to see it tho in wilds
idt valstrax fits the world/wilds design style as much
vocal haven
tru
vocal haven
new, second valstrax variant
diablos burying valstrax
outer heron
it's a bit too far on the Anime Kreecher side of monhun design
vocal haven
Jen valstrax moran
outer heron
versus the Weird Wildlife
vocal haven
it's a bit too far on the Anime Kreecher side of monhun design
def
if we get a siege fight tho. it has to be jhen
no sugarcoating it
outer heron
tbh i'm uh
teal halo
it's a bit too far on the Anime Kreecher side of monhun design
I feel like that’s the point
outer heron
pretty over siege fights
vocal haven
that aswell tho
teal halo
Yeah no sieges suck
vocal haven
thats what i am saying. give us a downsized jhen moran we fight on foot purely. sizewise like akantor/ukanlos i think would fit
teal halo
Zorah was the last true siege and as a fifth fleeter it fucking sucked
outer heron
the zorah siege sucked, rampages were not at all to my taste
vocal haven
thats what i am saying. give us a downsized jhen moran we fight on foot purely. ...
or smething similiar
outer heron
the dalamadur siege sucks
winged crest
There's a designer in the MHWilds team telling his team lead that the issue with the previous sieges was that the monster wasn't big enough RIGHT NOW
vocal haven
gogmazios doesnt count as a siegedoes it?
winged crest
Nah he's fine <3
teal halo
If I have to go through another siege I am going to snap the next monster I see like a goddamn toothpick
vocal haven
I think my dream scenario old elder dragon wise would be, cool new ones and then amatsu appears and the desert turns into a semi ocean as torrents of rain fly down
and the nakarkos laserbeams out of nowhere
nakarkos really has a top tier laser
outer heron
my dream scenario monster hunter is "entirely open world, and then the second half of the game begins with a dalamadur or safi'jiva etc. nuking the center and reshaping everything"
vocal haven
YOOO
teal halo
Safi is kinda meh imo but only in design
vocal haven
my dream scenario monster hunter is "entirely open world, and then the second ha...
cracking the desert revealing an entire rotten vale like cave system udnerneath? 👀
outer heron
those are the two monsters i can think of that being a feasible act for
safi being "zero upper limit on juice" and dalamadur being uh
the size of a volcano
vocal haven
that also changes the things up top
outer heron
and as hot as a volcano
outer heron
cracking the desert revealing an entire rotten vale like cave system udnerneath?...
yeah, something like that
massive fissures to open up the second half of the game's maps
teal halo
Safi is so fucking stupid/pos
outer heron
i'm a safi stan
vocal haven
safi being "zero upper limit on juice" and dalamadur being uh
dire miralis outta nowhere
outer heron
hmm
vocal haven
what is gogmazius actually classified as?
outer heron
dire miralis is kind of the same general archetype as fatalis, dalamadur, and zorah
teal halo
Wasn’t Dire a black dragon?
outer heron
but fatalis is depicted as King Shit Of Dragons and dalamadur is a walking apocalypse
dire miralis is one of the three Black Dragons, yeah
winged crest
what is gogmazius actually classified as?
Elder
outer heron
i do wonder if we'll see another Red Dragon to mirror them
vocal haven
i think if i remember correctly gog is a weird case cause its like borderline labelled as black dragon but isnt due to the guild having no info about it
outer heron
I only wish it resembled its alien origins a bit more
i like that it's an archetypical, classical Welsh Red Dragon in a world in which that's a bizarre and alien thing
outer heron
i think if i remember correctly gog is a weird case cause its like borderline la...
nah, that's fan misinformation
teal halo
I don’t like safis design because it’s so basic. Yes the red dragon is cool but like
outer heron
"Black Dragon" isn't like
a super special extra Elder+++ tier
it's the name of three black dragons
outer heron
gogmazios is the "Giant Halberd Dragon"
teal halo
This thing is made of purified bioenergy make that shit look cosmic and ethereal, like a refined version of its child form
outer heron
as opposed to Fatalis being the Black Dragon
vocal haven
the map having a Uluru/Ayers Rock type structure, BUT it is reaveled that in actually it is an egg, and when the monster awakens everything goes boom
winged crest
I wonder if the guild employs someone just to think up cool epithets
outer heron
and Dire Miralis/Alatreon being the Smelting & Blazing Black Dragons
safi, meanwhile, is the Red Dragon
winged crest
Psh, alatreon isn't even blazing half the time
teal halo
I accept what we got I know it’s cool I just feel it could be better
outer heron
This thing is made of purified bioenergy make that shit look cosmic and ethereal...
pitch: safi'jiva is its Hard Cocoon stage
vocal haven
safi being "zero upper limit on juice" and dalamadur being uh
it would be so funny if yama just randomly appeared over the desert and just vacuumed away large swathes of sand revealing stuff underneath
outer heron
it's established repeatedly that safi is the result of the larval xeno'jiva molting countless times
and its scales and skin are ultrahard
this, following the ethereal insectoid theming of xeno'jiva, could indicate that safi is its transitory stage of a tougher protective shell
before the third butterfly stage in its life cycle
teal halo
So you’re saying safi is the kakuna or metapod
outer heron
safi is the world's deadliest metapod
vocal haven
i'm a safi stan
safi is cool, but i think I would prefer to not have a repeat of its fighting mechanic......
outer heron
oh, i actually think it's the best take on sieges we've had so far
it does the multi-phase boss thing without frustrating me like Stand There And Load Cannons does
vocal haven
maybe i am just burnt out of it since i got extremely unlucky with part drops lol
outer heron
fair
i also think Sapphire of the Emperor is the coolest attack in monster hunter history
vocal haven
I do also still reaaaaaaaallllly like kulve taroth
without stage 1
I overall think i prefer kulve fight (without the chase) over safi fight
teal halo
i also think Sapphire of the Emperor is the coolest attack in monster hunter his...
Agreed
vocal haven
also kulve is a dope non standard elder dragon
outer heron
i like KT's fight too, yeah
vocal haven
you know
outer heron
they're the same overall siege archetype though
vocal haven
i change my tune
teal halo
A moment of silence, and then everything goes white and blue as the world is torn asunder around you
vocal haven
they can come back but i would like there mabye to be a version for solo players/slightly changed for solos
outer heron
A moment of silence, and then everything goes white and blue as the world is tor...
yeah it's fucking perfect
vocal haven
but they can fuck of with the gacha weapon rewards
outer heron
you get the "BIG ATTACK IS CHARGING" noise pollution for a few seconds, and as soon as you've gotten used to it
it and the music both stop
vocal haven
or atleast give us the ability to forge the lement and weapons we want
the amoun of time i had to spent to get my kjar dbs.....
outer heron
and the map vanishes lmao
outer heron
the amoun of time i had to spent to get my kjar dbs.....
yeah, deco farming in world sucked dick
KT/safi weapon farming in world also sucked dick
vocal haven
just please let us make the weapons we want, and not stupid gach roll them after the sieges
i still dont have all elemental kjar dbs
outer heron
talisman farming in rise?
even fucking worse
please
stop with the randomized bullshit drops gacha
teal halo
Speak for yourself I got three rathian plates in a row in world
vocal haven
yeah, deco farming in world sucked dick
they could just make it like pendants where deco can be crafted and then upgraded for higher slots....
outer heron
nah, make it like
vocal haven
Speak for yourself I got three rathian plates in a row in world
monster parts rando drops is completely fine
outer heron
you get T1 decos just doing everything
inundated in them
drowned in em
and then you craft bigger decos by fusing the t1s
vocal haven
but having a 0.5% chance to get that crit boost/health boost deco is just
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
outer heron
atk2? fuse two atk1s (which get to be extremely common, and the gate is just a recipe lock)
vocal haven
but having a 0.5% chance to get that crit boost/health boost deco is just
while also needing to do the right hunt since you need a specific rartiy type of feystone...
outer heron
atk3? two 2s; 4? two 3s
winged crest
before the third butterfly stage in its life cycle
Farasha'jiiva let's go
winged crest
Calling Capcom right this moment
outer heron
razor sharp/spare shot? two attack decos, a sharpness deco, and a defense deco
or something like that
make it all stuff that's extremely easy to get, but gives you a little "oh, that's neat" recipe
vocal haven
what weapon vids are we still missing. Lance, bow and DBs?
outer heron
and switch axe
vocal haven
ahh yaya
and we will prob also get a flagship reveal vid at the very end i would assume
outer heron
i assume we'll get some info on the raildragon, yeah
vocal haven
might be the demo boss
seeing how prior val and nergi where also in the demos (i cant remember which one rise had)
also pls dont spoil the cool late monsters in the demos capcom...even if they on the cover
outer heron
i never looked at any of the rise demo content
so i have no idea what it had
man
i hope we get the accel axe in main series some day
vocal haven
man if there is no water combat its a bit weird if we where to fight a lagi
it feels wrong
stuck needle
Rise demo had a couple of basic hunts: the tutorial hunt from the actual game, Great Izuchi, and Mizutsune.
(it was kind of a frustrating demo, but that might just have been that I don't like the switch controller very much.)
outer heron
ah, mizu
stuck needle
and magnamalo, maybe, in traditional megabuffed state? but I ragequit the demo at mizutsune, so I didn't get that far
winged crest
Calling Capcom right this moment
They said この番号には二度と電話をかけないでください
vocal haven
also
let the fated four rest!
except for Gammoth
give us actually cool gammoth
Gammoth deviant might be the saddest monster of all time
winged crest
Glavenus is cool as FUCK though
vocal haven
tbf tho i just would like deviants and them being called deviants or mutants or whatever
and not just like "apex" versions which clearly are deviants
cut diablos, just give us bloodbath in g-rank, thank you
desert light
I'd be very happy if Glavenus came back, esp if we get Acidic Glav again
because both were great fights
though also, Astalos needs to ocme back too
and mitsuzne
winged crest
Gammoth can come back too, just give her a couple energy drinks
snow helm
More big herbivore monsters in general tbh
I'm surprised there's never been a sauropod or non-apceros ankylosaur
You could even have gammoth and a sauropod have mostly the same skeleton
outer heron
oh, i'd love an ankylosaur
snow helm
I would also love to see Durambaros come back but that's just because I personally love the design, I've never fought it and I understand it's not the best
outer heron
I think what I really want to see, spurred by doshaguma and odo (and later luna)garon, is a Big Cat monster
or even a smaller cat like a serval or ocelot
something with those agile, serpentine motions that you see on the garons, tobi-kadachi, gigginox, etc., but on just a whole-ass kbity
snow helm
I feel like the big cats have ended up split among so many other monsters
outer heron
they have, absolutely
snow helm
I have to wonder how you would make the actually just a cat monster feel unique
outer heron
and I'd be happy for this to be a hybrid as well
but I want something that's at least base cattish
snow helm
Because you've got lions, Panthers, sabrecats, temple lions, and even tigers in tigrex
snow helm
but I want something that's at least *base* cattish
I hear that though
vocal haven
though also, Astalos needs to ocme back too
I think astalos is not as likely since we got head lightning railgun wyvern
But tbf I am not a big astalos enjoyer
Would love like a more frantic moving dragonfly wyvern tho
outer heron
Because you've got lions, Panthers, sabrecats, temple lions, and even tigers in ...
what's on panthers again?
er
what are panthers on*
snow helm
Nargacuga
outer heron
RIGHT
THE BOY
can't believe I forgot the lad
anyway yeah there are a bunch of cat traits fused into a lot of wyverns already, but...well
we've got a million flying wyverns
snow helm
Generally Narga, Tigrex, and the sabrecats whose name I am totally forgetting occupy a lot of the cat space
outer heron
and plenty of same-model fanged or brute wyverns as well
there's a lot you can do with the elemental aspect and the hybridization
and I'm happy with either or both
I just want something big, fast, and purely bestial
that maps to cat
something broadly similar to any of narga, tobi, rajang, garon, etc.
would be fine as a base chassis to diverge from
but I think there's a lot left in all of their spaces, especially if you go more into that like
haughty playfulness and/or malicious curiosity
that's more a stereotype of housecats
snow helm
I feel like I'd want it to be a really weird snakey tiger based on those really fucked up Japanese tiger ukiyo-e prints
outer heron
i'd be down to explore something like that too
snow helm
The idea of a tiger with the leviathan model just popped in to my head and I couldn't get it out
Though I also get the desire for just a straight up beast
Mammals really get short shrift if the monhun design space
But also damn if this couldn't just be a monster already
vocal haven
You know what I want with the levi body
A crocodile monster
How have we not gotten like a crocodile monster yet
(Or have we)
snow helm
I think the closest we have to that is Legiacrus
But I also agree, though I'm almost torn about what bodyplan it should use
stuck needle
for World I'd expect something like piscine wyverns, but a long, fast leviathan model would be fun. give it a bunch of little legs
mystic cape
You know what would be a terrible but awesome monster? Those spider fish from that one Japanese animated horror movie
vocal haven
for World I'd expect something like piscine wyverns, but a long, fast leviathan ...
like a centipede monster 👀
winged crest
they should put a monster that's eight bears
teal halo
That is literally just dosha
frank epoch
they should put a monster that's eight bears
"Holy shit"
mystic cape
A giant end game invader monster but it's just a regular sized bear
winged crest
That is literally just dosha
no, that's a bear-like monster
teal halo
Yes
teal halo
Therefore it is a bear
winged crest
coordinated
winged crest
"Holy shit"
squiddar knows what I mean
teal halo
And it lives in packs
winged crest
yeah but then you've got a pack of doshas
that's multiple of them
eight bears would be one monster
(they share one health pool so you can't thin their numbers)
teal halo
You want a dark souls boss
winged crest
don't all multiple enemy soulslike bosses have individual health pools
teal halo
yes but they contribute to one larger health bar
frank epoch
squiddar knows what I mean
I got you
Remind me to turn on safe search at work the next time I look up "eight fucking bears"
teal halo
i know of the card
i have faced it before
that damnable leshen killed me with it once
winged crest
🟢🟢🟢🟢🔴🔴
winged crest
Remind me to turn on safe search at work the next time I look up "eight fucking ...
at least you won't have to be scared of seeing animals
brave hazel
Christ
I forgot how fun charge blade is
Once I get back into the college dorms I'm redownloading World on my good PC
balmy swan
Hell yeah
frank epoch
Inshallah it's ten minutes of hunting horn footage
halcyon fractal
🙏 please
stuck needle
We're down to lance, switch axe, and bow, right? With one day left over before gamescomm for them to show off a monster or something?
frank epoch
The last day is for ||the furtive pygmy, so easily forgotten||
halcyon fractal
😔
frank epoch
We're down to lance, switch axe, and bow, right? With one day left over before g...
Dual Blades
desert light
We're down to lance, switch axe, and bow, right? With one day left over before g...
It does leave them room to go surprise, new weapon
Oh, no if it's exactly, never mind
outer heron
It does leave them room to go surprise, new weapon
they also confirmed that there won't be new weapons
unfortunately
i would love accel axe or a kusarigama
desert light
Ahhh, I figured that was the case
outer heron
or another polearm
desert light
Tbh outside of them maybe bringing back the cat hunter mode, I don't expect new weapons these days
outer heron
or some kind of bloodborne-ass rifle pike
desert light
14 different weapons is already a lot
desert light
Just in terms of dev time etc
There is the concept art for the hunting boomerang kicking around
outer heron
especially now that they're working with the world engine after two games of development
desert light
Mm, I suspect the issue is once you introduce a new weapon there's no real undoing that
outer heron
i disagree specifically with regards to bowgun
Tri tested a medium bowgun as part of its heavy customization
and that never came back
i think they could cut bowguns down from L/H to just a single weapon
with higher modularity
and go "the bowgun becomes 'heavy' when you add the shield to it"
desert light
Yes, but that was part of a system that muddled things quite heavily on bowguns. I don't think it's the same as a whole arse new weapon type, animations etc
outer heron
desert light
Another weapon and armorset that has strong temmoceren vibes
desert light
Given a perenial complaint i heard on swaxe is "OH GOD I HAVE NO DEFENCE OPTIONS"
I think that's a good thing and probably a reaction to that point of feedback
outer heron
it looks to be somewhat similar to the elemental counter from sunbreak
so it's probably a response to positive player reception from that
umbral loom
Huh, no mention of its weird gauge or anything? Just axe long sword fast?
outer heron
it was definitely the most suspicously brief showcase, yeah
i'm curious what they're hiding
if anything
winged crest
swax
snow helm
The website says still no guarding for swaxe, which as a swaxe main I think is fair
It's identity is very much just stand there and try to do as much damage as quickly as possible
outer heron
ZSD ZSD ZSD ZSD ZSD
winged crest
It's identity is very much just stand there and try to do as much damage as quic...
i thought it was stand there and launch your teammates when they try to carve
snow helm
Also correct
desert light
Hmm., i'm wondering if this temmoceren is some kind of beetle?
Just looking at hte siwtch axe design it's got the pincers, but also the blade looks like it's from a horn too
outer heron
yeah this is beetley as *fuck*
I absolutely think so
desert light
Oh, shit, you know what it might actually be?
Neopteron.
Which would fit your beetley thing
and the main reason i say that is look at those pincers
And tell me tthey arent familar looking here.
outer heron
hm, yeah
considering it looks extraordinarily different from the CB, there's no way they're from the same monster
desert light
Yeah, the colorschema etc
outer heron
and it would fit that they're teasing things from different classes each time
desert light
If i had to bet, i think we're all but certain to get a trailer drop during Gamescon
and we'll see a bunch of the new monsters there
They usualyl advertyise most of the monsters, and it's only the elders/final boss who stay hidden
outer heron
I hope they don't tbh
I want to see a couple of them
but give me more surprises
bazelgeuse was very special
but now I want that inscrutable wonder from everything
a return to the gaming days of old, where content wasn't leaked with months to spare
desert light
I'm trying to remeber what stuff was seceret in World
and what stuff was seceret in Rise/Sunbreak
THe Nawas were pretty seret - i think we saw glimpses, but only glimpses
Galg never made it to trailers
halcyon fractal
yeah this is beetley as *fuck*
could also be a carapaceon
which hey, we need more of
outer heron
any bugs would be great, yeah
mystic cape
It's got ice damage so it's gonna be a very weird bug/crab
winged crest
jade seltas
outer heron
oh shit, are the weapons on the website?
glad to get such a clean shot of the SA & accompanying armor
is the fem armor + axe form also on?
mystic cape
Lighting affects color perception
vernal root
May their pain end soon
vernal root
swaxe *also* gets guard and ripostes? <:intensifeyes:454087335101857792>
And yeah the Swaxe is looking like it'll be a strong generalist weapon as things are. I skipped Rise so haven't played MH in a while, but it did have some noticeable changes including smaller ones.
Though I will always have a soft spot for aerial Swaxe: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSeglh6WA4E
outer heron
May their pain end soon
hey, it's been the others too
gunlance was doshaguma I know
and I think longsword was balahara?
greatsword might've also been doshaguma
vocal haven
I am still puzzled over the swaxe video
It was so barebones with the exception of the counter
balmy swan
Honestly if swaxe isn't much changed from Iceborne I won't complain. Been playing it a fair amount recently and it feels comfy
The main thing is that I really hope that they kept the axe mode fade slash
stuck needle
It's going to be interesting to hear back from people playing the demos. I wonder how much new stuff they're skipping in these videos
balmy swan
Enough weapons seem to be showing guard points and/or riposte moves that it's making me wonder if that's going to be kind of a meta-mechanic for Wilds
frank epoch
I'd be fine with that I think, certainly better than wirebugs and clutch claw
vocal haven
I think it kinda does dilute a lot of things, seeing how many counters/ripostes existed in rise
balmy swan
I can see the sense in giving the player moves that reward them for being able to read and predict monster behavior, since that's supposed to be a cornerstone of the series' gameplay
And like with SnS, for instance, if it has good guard points with a strong block that could give it a way to compete with stronger guarding weapons like the lance and make the shield feel a bit less... extraneous
Opening up a different form of defensive gameplay, like
stuck needle
instead of exclusively using the shield as a bludgeon, you mean? 😛
balmy swan
Yeah exactly 😆
solemn jay
is there a Base World/Iceborne "unlocks" guide?
vernal root
It was so barebones with the exception of the counter
It's a bit odd yeah, but I suppose part of it might be that it's largely unchanged.
desert light
instead of exclusively using the shield as a bludgeon, you mean? 😛
To be fair, this is historically accurate, sword and board is a form of dual wielding
You have the pointy stick and the Slammy slab!
Then those assholes had to go around wearing full plate and ruin it for everyone
mystic cape
Then there came the tarj, a shield with a big ol' spike on it
winged crest
wooohohohoho
We wuxia now
"blacksmith, I am going into battle and I need your silliest wig."
stuck needle
"my silliest wig could slay a dragon...yeah, ok, fair"
halcyon fractal
its too vibrant to be it
less "decaying lich" and more of "Rose in the ballroom"
lost niche
I mean, the world one was a wedding dress. It's even got the spikes, scalloped plate, and worn webbing
halcyon fractal
but the color palette is like
totally different
white and brown vs white and red
lost niche
I could be wrong, it just doesn't seem all that different to me
teal halo
Looks more spidery
lost niche
Ah, I didn't know the male art was out too. Hm, that is kinda different.
desert light
Also they just don't redesign armor for monsters like that as a rule
There's some they should (Queropecpo...)
But doing big redesigns of a monsters armor doesn't generally happen
halcyon fractal
There's some they should (Queropecpo...)
it can't be that bad.
...
oh nevermind it is
😔 curse you Capcom for culturally appropriating Native American culture as an aesthetic
desert light
Yeah, Quero is really bad. The sad bit it's they fixed it for his master rank set and it's great
Which is carnival inspired
Which is way way more fitting and stylish for everyone's favorite singing dinosaur bird of questionable choices
teal halo
Carnival? Which one?
vocal haven
ohhh the sound
ok the bow has a counter/evade
it looks more and more like a universal thing
teal halo
Three remain
outer heron
fuck yeah
teal halo
Do you mean Macross?
vocal haven
also wtf is that goofy ass million arrows arrow shot at the evry end
outer heron
yeah all of those big attacks look fucking sick
rain of arrows, massive shotgun blast, and macross missile massacre
teal halo
Good old MMM
vocal haven
also it actually differentiate itself from bowguns with the trace mechanic
teal halo
M3
vocal haven
i really like that
also what do we call the evade thingie. i dont know if it is a "counter" since you get seemingly no attack combiend with it
teal halo
Point Dodge
outer heron
it had a counter
teal halo
Or Spot Dodge
outer heron
you can see the jank animation
of the dodge canceling its last bit
and going into a shot
and it's both a different shot animation and extra arrows
like the final hit of bow standard combo usually is
outer heron
Or Spot Dodge
spot dodge makes more sense
since it's the equivalent of a perfect guard
teal halo
Yeah spot dodge was my second thought and it’s better
outer heron
people keep calling the perfect guard stuff guard points, and I kept doing it too
but it ain't
I think the only weapon we saw with guard points added was GL (other than CB itself ofc)
although if sns gets guard points I would lose it and love it
vocal haven
Did I see it correctly that they replaced the big dragon Piercer or we thinking that it only replaced it when a tracer is stuck in a monster
outer heron
dragon piercer wasn't replaced at all
teal halo
Never heard a guard point called a perfect guard
outer heron
I think the screen shake of its multihit was just replaced by the explosion
outer heron
Never heard a guard point called a perfect guard
people keep confusing them on the youtube page
teal halo
I have never hit one on purpose I think I’m developing CB ultra instinct
vocal haven
dragon piercer wasn't replaced at all
Oh sry. I meant that dragon Piercer looked like ot was multiple arrows with the tracer but I could just be flat wrong.
outer heron
Never heard a guard point called a perfect guard
well, actually, they're not feeling guard points perfect guards, they're calling perfect guard guard point
vocal haven
At 0:28+ , the airtime lol
outer heron
so I guess you still haven't
yeah I'm wondering if there's like
a botw/elden ring jump button now
that was a beeg hop
teal halo
Absolution calls and I’m gonna kick the shit out of a rath and blos with this full odogaron set I finished today
Took a week long break and the desire sensor reset cause I got two odogaron plates in one hunt
outer heron
god I love the garon sets
teal halo
So unapologetically edgy
vocal haven
Is the male one the one with the hat?
teal halo
Yup
vocal haven
I wish the female one would also have the hat
teal halo
Same but also cool mask
I hope wilds doesn’t bring back odo but has a set that’s just as edgy
vocal haven
Oh! Do I see that right thar the female version of the bow armor actually is the one with helmet??
teal halo
Oh hell yea
outer heron
I thiiiink the hat is the fem one
teal halo
Tick Tock Tick Tock <I’m not so sure>
Besides, what’s a little hope for random chance?
vocal haven
But damm I did not expect for bow to get something like this
outer heron
getting a higher-res shot
hm
it's also bizarre that the switch axe is listed as "unable to guard" on the website
when it specifically does in the video
vocal haven
Maybe it means as in "specific guard button" type of way?
outer heron
hm
if switch axe is getting a weird variant of guard points, that'd be fascinating
considering how tight-lipped they were on it for some reason
vocal haven
I think a Capcom dev played to much dragons dogma
Literal magic archer now in world lol
I see GL players malding at bow getting a ranged wyrnstake that also causes arrows to seek
Also
I completely forget sneak attacks are a thing until I saw the bow jump attack at like 0:56
mystic cape
Bow has a series of arrow barrage attacks now and I find that funny
real zodiac
okay bow looks cool and I might try it out come wilds
mystic cape
Looks Bow will still need to make more coatings in the field at least, meaning the Bowguns likely will need to make ammo in the field too
real zodiac
I mostly fuck around with Charge Blade, Lance and longsword
mystic cape
Speaking of, IINM the only weapons left to cover are DB and Lance
outer heron
i'm 99% confident that lance is last
with every day, my sense of vindication hardens
mystic cape
At this point it's 50/50 odds between it and DB
outer heron
yeah but i've been sure since like day 5
mystic cape
And given that Lance is the guarding weapons it may give some good look at the perfect guard system we've seen a couple times
mystic cape
Lance is good
tiny wind
Maybe i'll go hbg and bow
desert light
That giant leap into attack is well, pretty sick
vocal haven
Do we feel like styles might be back?
I feel like the bow dodge looks way to good to be just a normal move. It's looks a lot like that adept dodge/evade (I think that's what it's called?)
mystic cape
It looks like they're bringing over some of the aspects of styles
Hammer had the Brave dash too
vocal haven
Ye
Hard to say. From what I've seen so far, the weakspot mechanic seems to be cool but too small a gimmick to be the only gimmick, imo there's got to be something more they aren't showing us yet. They mentioned special dual weapon attacks (which we have not seen yet) but that also sounds like it's not a full-fledged system either, which is what I'm sorta expecting?
So I think there is a chance for maybe styles
And they didn't even show swaxe gauge
winged crest
I wanna see some more beafts
rich valve
not sure what weapon i want to play yet, guess I'll wait to hear back from playabe demos
I like to switch it up per game and I was thinking SnS or Bow but going back to HH or Gunlance is also looking tempting...
desert light
I am still a sucker for well
this
and the way it trumphantly stars blaring when you proceed to absolotuey DUNK on some poro asshole
halcyon fractal
yeah thats very good
godddddd
the music for World and Iceborne is so gooooood
Rise and Sunbreak's music is pretty great too, but I still really prefer this
desert light
World had some bits i dindt like, their Jho and Zingore themes were kinda weak
halcyon fractal
personally the Wildspire Waste them is a bit meh for me
and Zino's theme, imo, rocks
desert light
Also as much as swiming as a mess in tri/tri u
I'd
well
I'd give a lot to have Caedeus come back
halcyon fractal
🐳
desert light
just to have this theme start rocking again
And like, Zin's theme isnt bad i Iceborne etc
but this is the theme i grew up grinding Zin on
Itr's just a lot morei mmediately dynamic in my opion
and suits electric break dance dragon wiolf better
Likewise, this is the orginal Jho theme
Totally fiar if you prefer the redone versions, but he orignals just hit harder for me
halcyon fractal
ooh
desert light
I'd say the new versions are more complex and well, for lakc of a better term, orchestral
Zingore's theme in p3rd is a straight rock piece basically
halcyon fractal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uV8laC3y4vc
Personally for me, I adore the New Zino Theme for Iceborne, because it sounds a lot more intense, and the Yukumo Village leitmotif in the middle is a nice touch