as my gf would say
||that's a dark souls boss||
#Monster Hunter
halcyon fractal
naive elk
||just upgraded to Shagaru Magala weapons so i need to craft armor so i can make a good fit for them||
new fit
aight, doing pretty good for my skills, time for ||Gaismagorm||
naive elk
||Used the Shagaru Magala DB||
RIP BOZO
we win these
first try too, i got down to one cart
||Gaismagorm sure as fuck LOOKS scarier than fucking Fatalis itself with its enormous stature and the burning demonic flames on its body, but sure enough Fatalis is far more dangerous||
guess i just need to hunt more monsters
winged crest
the whole charm with fatalis is that it just looks like a dragon
I know I'm not the first to say this, but you could just take fatalis and put it in another game more easily than any other monster
naive elk
they definitely tried to do the same with Safi'jiiva
which i actually hated
Safi is my least favourite monster design in the entire franchise
but i do know that a lot of people like it
Safi is very much a quintessential red fantasy dragon until you look closer
it apparently has a lot of bug features left over from Xeno'jiiva
winged crest
which i actually hated
I'll chalk that up to xeno'jiiva's super cool design
naive elk
i get what they were going for with a big bug monster that pretends to be a normal dragon but both because it's Monster Hunter and because Xeno'jiiva was such a striking design, it does not work for me in any capacity
winged crest
and you get to fight an ADULT ONE YOOOOOO and it's the dragon from shrek
naive elk
Xeno'jiiva is just superior in every capacity
like in any other context it would work
even in another game i think it would work if you emphasized its bug nature a bit more
but in the Monster Hunter franchise and with Xeno'jiiva as its younger form
it just does not work for me at all
naive elk
i genuinely do think it's one of the single worst monster designs
winged crest
discounting frontier I might even agree honestly
MH's monster design is top notch across the board
naive elk
you know the one
Sapphire of the Emperor
naive elk
Escaton Judgement is also a really cool one with a sick name
think it's supposed to be Eschaton but i've never seen it spelled like that
winged crest
well see alatreon just kind of exploderizes
naive elk
Eschaton is basically the day of gods judgement in the new testament which is a really cool thing to reference for an attack name
winged crest
it doesn't have the je ne sais quoi that the sapphire has
naive elk
well see alatreon just kind of exploderizes
which is why Sapphire of the Emperor is better
winged crest
personally I wouldn't even rank escaton judgement on par with fatalis' white flame attack
naive elk
the flying up, shooting down the fire until it becomes a thin beam, and then having a small star like orb fly down to become a enormous fucking explosion
winged crest
naive elk
it's such a fucking good reference to the Sapphire Star as well
winged crest
the what?
naive elk
The Sapphire Star
it's a lore thing
it's from The Tale of Five
basically a world creation story
winged crest
I don't know that sorry
winged crest
I believe it
naive elk
apparently you can only access it if you didn't max upgrade your room so i can't
which is kinda, wack
tbh
winged crest
lol
rapid lion
In world, you can talk to the steward to go back to earlier rooms.
crude kayak
||Gaismagorm sure as fuck LOOKS scarier than fucking Fatalis itself with its eno...
I do think they kind of overtuned fatalis in world
also making it a dps check with hp and time
naive elk
I've still yet to beat it ngl
frank epoch
https://fxtwitter.com/Monoshot_/status/1808309241541001532
I love what I do as an HH main. The melodic soldier smiles
halcyon fractal
halcyon fractal
MISSION STATUS: SICK
naive elk
all is right once more
quick lynx
friendship ended with monster hunter rise
did my 8th khezu hunt yesterday and still didn't get pale steak
balmy swan
desire sensor real
naive elk
Khezu moment
naive elk
it do be like that sometimes
quick lynx
i just need one for the gunlance 😭
i haven't gotten to rathalos in high rank yet so i don't think i've needed the tail
it's only a matter of time,,,
another thing i'm not looking forward to is hunting nargacuga again cause his fight was just kinda lame to me
maybe high rank gives him cooler moves idk
naive elk
love fighting Rathian and Rathalos and getting poisoned and burned 100% of the time
naive elk
using DB
but i'd need to be not on fire or dying of poison long enough to actually inflict parts breaking violence
outer heron
they're a real tough wall early on, yeah
naive elk
fighting gold and silver btw
outer heron
the three flashbangs you get for MR are usually enough for me to tailcut one
naive elk
was just annoying as shit to defeat them both
naive elk
carted twice against gold
outer heron
getting the reach seems like ass
outer heron
they like to keep their tails pretty high up
naive elk
yeah
outer heron
bad enough for S&S, and at least that gets some good vertical
dbs' super horizontal moveset definitely sounds atrocious
naive elk
i try to focus on spindashing it to get to the tail
outer heron
makes sense
desert light
Is this world or rise?
World it's all about the wall bangs into tail cuts and otherwise you just go for the leggies
naive elk
Rise
desert light
Oh, huh, should be pretty easy to bounce off their legs and goto town then
naive elk
Yeah
That's why i said i just do the spindash and dly up to the tail
DB is surprisingly vertical with switch skills
desert light
It's insanely vertical, it's great
esp when you learn the launch has iframes
so you can do some really badass stuff with good timing
naive elk
i have my new least favourite monster in the franchise
fuck flaming espinas
what an absoluty dogshit monster to fight
already not a big fan of having poison and fire on the same monster, adding a massive armor debuff does not make it more interesting to fight
naive elk
new fit
wicked prism
Actual final boss
wicked prism
stuck needle
RIP to the Khezus
zenith sedge
I'm a Nargacuga apparently
mystic cape
Zinogre here
winged crest
I'm a Nargacuga apparently
yoooo represent
vocal haven
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/366906520614469632/1264007031443165277/hv...
Wtf is this selection
Akantor without ukanlos??
Also I am teostra fuck.
halcyon fractal
that means I get absolutely bodied by people born in May-June
Oh shit I read that wrong
ZINOGRE SWEEP
desert light
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/366906520614469632/1264007031443165277/hv...
Oh no help i am a lighting wolf help
spring lily
I'm a Royal Ludroth
Bummer, was hoping for a cooler leviathan
Like Mizutsune or Lagi
void narwhal
Ayy Kirin, such a weird fight
desert light
Kirin is one of the times the monster hunter camera doesn't work very well
Honestly I think he's just kinda a bad fight they've kept for legacy reasons
And it needs some more work and well, resizing
"three hit zones also I am tiny" is not it
Otoh I do appreciate the asthetics of "awwww, tiny unicorn.... dear Gods in heaven, what the fuck was that lighting"
umbral osprey
I'm rajang which weirdly fits but now I'm upset that I'm not brachy
naive elk
love getting stunlocked into an instakill combo by Malzeno
winged crest
contrary to what the name might suggest, lynian meat is meat prepared by lynians
teal halo
send this to me when it's done i beg of thee
rapid lion
Same! I briefly attempted something similar to that idea but only got as far as the Jyuratodus. (Jyuradotus? I always forget.)
outer heron
jyuratodus, yeah
winged crest
which portion of all monsters do you think would taste kind of like chicken, partially because you have to cook the shit out of it, partly because reptiles are known to taste kind of like chicken
desert light
I'd wonder about the same problems you get in real life, where apex predator meat is crap due to accumulated toxins etc
(because they eat the things that eat the grass/smaller animals, apex predators end up as something of a biological cesspool)
halcyon fractal
which portion of all monsters do you think would taste kind of like chicken, par...
Probably kulu ya ku
It is one of the more birdy bird wyverns
winged crest
I'm betting a solid 80% of all wyverns
elder tusk
which portion of all monsters do you think would taste kind of like chicken, par...
probably most -prey and minor wyverns, but the bigger they get the less they're gonna taste like chicken and they more they'll probably trend toward ostrich and alligator, though the hyper predators will probably kill you if you try to eat too much of them
anything that isn't explicitly predatory is probably a better bet
you want things that are eating plants and insects more than other monsters
wyvern meat is a known delicacy in the setting, but a lot of delicacies are meant to be eaten sparingly
don't eat the weirdos with esoteric diets, they're dealing with toxins your body won't even recognize
rapid lion
...where does Radobaan fall on that spectrum? Obligate osteophagy (osteovory?) is rare but not that esoteric, all things considered. I'd be worried about pathogens, and obviously it'd be some work to get to that meat, but I suspect it'd probably be fine?
Real question, actually: Barroth. They eat ants, primarily. I don't know if that'd lead to weird stuff accumulating in them, or not really? Probably not; ants literally have an acid named after them, but it probably wouldn't even sour Barroth meat.
...what does Tzitzi-ya-ku eat, actually? I've suddenly realized I have no idea. I'd assume eggs like the Kulu-ya-ku, but there isn't really a species in the Coral Highlands for them to reliably steal eggs from. Young Shamos, perhaps? That'd be plausible... but the fact that they give warning flashes with their horns imply they're more likely to be a defensive adaptation than an offensive one.
the real answer is probably "whatever they happen to be able to get their claws on" and sometimes that's a solitary shamos, and sometimes that's an egg, and sometimes that's a particularly slow wiggler, and sometimes that's part of some other predator's meal while they aren't looking.
stuck needle
...what does Tzitzi-ya-ku eat, actually? I've suddenly realized I have no idea....
I want to say it eats eggs from the little flying wyverns you can hitch a ride on, but maybe I'm thinking of paolumu
rapid lion
I thought Paolomu ate... maybe toads? Maybe the flying jellyfish? Tzitzi-ya-ku looks like an egg-eater.
Although probably less specialized than Kulu-Ya-Ku; it has teeth, for one thing, and not a beak. Although that discrepancy alone makes me wonder... are they actually closely related? Or are they totally different but with a similar enough appearance that they were given similar names?
snow helm
The later, I think, which isn't enormously uncommon in monster hunter
rapid lion
To be fair, it isn't enormously uncommon in real life, either.
wicked prism
I thought Paolomu ate... maybe toads? Maybe the flying jellyfish? Tzitzi-ya-ku...
Paolomu eats eggs
And Tzi Tzi I think eats small animals and mainly uses its flashes for self defense
winged crest
probably most -prey and minor wyverns, but the bigger they get the less they're ...
Aren't ostrich and alligator both reported to taste kind of like chicken though?
winged crest
Hm hm
elder tusk
...where does Radobaan fall on that spectrum? Obligate osteophagy (osteovory?) ...
oh I meant the really weird shit, like Dodogama eating rocks, Gogmazios eating gunpowder, etc
winged crest
For the purposes of this thought exercise, I am ignoring the question "is it safe to eat". I'm going from "is it physically edible" straight to "what would it be like"
And if I want to be more realistic, I'm sure even with the more toxic species, there's ways to go about it. Even pufferfish get eaten, after all.
halcyon fractal
🤔
I bet most of the Rotten Vale creatures would be too toxic to even eat
and Radobaan probably tastes like crude oil or tar
winged crest
tfw I fucking die because the chef made a mistake when cutting out the seven (7) grams of edible Vaal Hazak meat
elder tusk
😭
halcyon fractal
It's probably not a good idea to eat the meat from most elder dragons
Especially the volatile elemental ones
Like Teostra, or Chameleos, or Kirin, and especially Vaal Hazak
especially the black dragons
Gog help you if you take a bite of Alatreon steak, or hell, Dire Miralis pot au feu
crude kayak
just a nibble of shagaru magala
desert light
Let's just not even get started on Fatalis
like that's just some norse myth level fuckupos
snow helm
I'd eat Shara Ishvalda, I'm sure that would just give you crazy super powers
mystic cape
Or just drive you insane with knowing
winged crest
Consider: spices
Just sprinkle a tiny bit of Shara Ishvalda on your popo burger it'll have you seeing undiscovered colors
mystic cape
You mean colors unlike any seen on Earth?
rich valve
maybe uragaan is like a big crab if you manage to break off the outer shell
rapid lion
You can see its muscle tissue after a tail cut. I don’t know what that means but I think it would be more like mammalian tissue than arthropod tissue like crabs? I’m not sure, though.
halcyon fractal
maybe uragaan is like a big crab if you manage to break off the outer shell
Uragaan eats rocks and farts explosive gas and sleep spray
Idk if any meat from that is gonna be good
halcyon fractal
but they do work out a lot. Digging and burrowing in a hot, arid environment would make their meat quite tough, don'tcha think?
might be good for stews and braising
rapid lion
How do you think Jyuratodus would taste? I actually wrote up something claiming it'd taste somewhere between fish or meat, and I imagine it'd be a royal pain to prepare (you'd have to remove the skin and probably drain the blood, and an animal of that size has a lot of blood), but I'd image it'd probably end up something like... idk, maybe catfish? Maybe? Really, I have no idea, but something about it seems especially edible (with enough cleaning).
...filter feeders accumulate pollutants, but in the world of Monster Hunter, with less heavy industry, there's going to be many fewer toxins for them to accumulate, especially in terms of metals... I... think?
Also it's not a filter feeder, and I wasn't actually talking about filter feeders, and I have no idea what I was talking about but Jyuratodus aren't analagous to catfish either; they don't feed off of stuff in the muck. They hunt Aptonoth. You get to see them hunting Aptonoth.
Aptonoth are probably... not super tough meat; they live a pretty sedentary lifestyle, relatively speaking. I've never eaten turtle, although I know it technically is a food in some locations? But they'd probably be vaguely similar; they do lay eggs, after all. So probably just... chicken-like, honestly. At least in the same general direction.
Tobi-Kadachi? Skinning them would probably be annoying, because of the incidentally generated electric charges from the fur, and they have an electro sac... and their general body plan makes me think you wouldn't be able to necessarily get as much meat off one as you might expect? But there'd still be plenty, and probably pretty good eating, if you don't mind a bit of a gamey flavor. ...also not sure what they eat either, come to think of it. I'm assuming "generalist omnivore"? They have predatory adaptations, but also seem like, if times are tough, they'd be able to hang out in treetops and supplement their diet with plant matter.
Legiana is probably a delicacy precisely because of how bad eating they are? I feel like, between organs, fine membranes, horns, and skeleton, there just isn't going to be a ton of good meat on them (at least, relative to their size). ...this of course begs the question of organ meats, but, as delicious as those are, if we're worried about accumulated toxins, that would go double for organ meats (plus I think some of them are naturally toxic in real-life animals just due to having too much iron or stuff? I don't actually know.)
halcyon fractal
Aptonoth are probably... *not* super tough meat; they live a pretty sedentary li...
Aptonoth are definitely eaten in bulk, as the canteen has a bunch of meat ingredients made of aptnoth
rapid lion
Yeah. I also vaguely remember Gajau liver being an ingredient? Which implies that, despite their muddy habitats, there aren't a ton of toxins being incidentally ingested.
stuck needle
Helps that monhun world doesn't have a ton of industry leaking pollutants into their swamp
halcyon fractal
Gajau Liver and Gajau Gills are canteen items, yeah
winged crest
Helps that monhun world doesn't have a ton of industry leaking pollutants into t...
We should call Capcom on the phone and tell them to change that
halcyon fractal
plus, I'd assume, like IRL Catfish, they taste good too
stuck needle
tiny wind
I love spread HBG with shield i love having an oversized shotgun parrying a fireball
halcyon fractal
I love spread HBG with shield i love having an oversized shotgun parrying a fire...
👀 which HBG are you using?
tiny wind
In wolrd Great jaggras, in rise golm
halcyon fractal
ahhh nice
the golm HBG is a favorite of mine
big fuckhuge quadbarrelled shotgun
tiny wind
(but i play rise on switch so it's a buit clunky)
halcyon fractal
anyway here's the rest of the writing about eating monsters
only for like base MHW's small monsters
wicked prism
wicked prism
teal halo
HUNTERS, WE ARE SO FUCKING BACK
oh man, already in the trailers there is so much to love
3d minimap
no more whiffing greatswords strikes/big bang attack/SAED
and the quality of everything OUGH
my ONLY gripe is that scoutflies are back and even then that's barely an issue
oh and the slinger is back too!
love that thang
mystic cape
Okay so now we know the stance change the GS did in the trailer was going in to Focus Mode, and that drawing the GS across the monster was a specific attack while in Focus Mode
Additionally we have confirmation of some kind of counter mechanic where hitting the monster with a specific attack/timing when they attack you allows a run in follow up
Whether this is universal or just GS remains to be seen as more trailers drop over the next week or so
mystic cape
The highlight feature probably left them room to make the wounds more subtle
Also looks like doing the Focus Attack clears the wound, so you may need to balance how many attacks you can land on it before going for the big hit to maximize damage
desert light
There's a bunch of interesting stuff in there.
mystic cape
It could also be a meter thing, where hitting the wound builds up to the big hit
brave hazel
I just wish there was still the tracking element
Feels strange not having to actually hunt down a monster
desert light
We'll see. There was tracking elements in world, you actually had to spend the time repeatedly hunting something until you just knew where it was
tiny wind
HBG reveal when ?
vocal haven
The tracking thing felt so whack in world
I hated the "you gotta gather tracks of X to unlock the hunt"
tiny wind
Poggers
So like wyvernheart is the gauge or all special ammunition (spread, piercing etc...) ?
mystic cape
The reticle seemed the same before they swapped to what I assume is wyvernsnipe or some other new form of special ammo so it's possible focus mode is just on by default when aiming with the HBG
mystic cape
That attack may also have been a focus attack since the wound on the head seems to disappear after, though it's hard to tell
rich valve
wounds may also just disappear after taking enough damage even if not in focus mode, our knowledge of that is hardly specific 😅
stuck needle
maybe this will be the game where I finally figure out what I'm doing wrong with the bowguns. They seem really cool, but every time I tried to run them in World or Rise (base games) I felt like I was using a nerf gun.
mystic cape
Did you craft and then load the stronger ammo?
vocal haven
I couldn't bowgun in world since I play with mk and the change in button layout was just to much for me even with rebinding
vocal haven
maybe this will be the game where I finally figure out what I'm doing wrong with...
Since you can bring 2 weapons to a hunt I assume a lot of people will
stuck needle
Did you craft and then load the stronger ammo?
I think so? It's been a while, but I remember I was following guides trying to figure out what I was doing wrong
halcyon fractal
Remember the critical distance
Anyway time to pass out
I got school tomorrow
Well, uni, but still
mystic cape
Since they did GS and then HBG I wonder what'll be next. Those were the two used in the gameplay trailers before so perhaps it'll be LS and GL next since they were in the Focus Mode trailer.
balmy swan
does anyone remember what order the Rise weapon trailers came out in?
i wonder if they might use the same order, but i also might already be wrong
mystic cape
You're already wrong
mystic cape
I checked their channel
balmy swan
yeah same
mystic cape
They have a playlist and it looks like Bow was first
teal halo
i hope you hunting horn players out there get done justice
mystic cape
Word is favorable for such
teal halo
i used to be a hammer main so i respect the melodical flavor of bonk and take pity on what rise did to y'all
halcyon fractal
they turned it into a musical hammer that borrows from longsword
which isn't what a true hunting horn is 😔
stuck needle
Rise horn was still satisfying, but I missed the funky combos from world.
teal halo
reportedly hunting horn is returning to how it was in world in wilds
halcyon fractal
YAYYYYY
winged crest
Since they did GS and then HBG I wonder what'll be next. Those were the two used...
new weapon type greater sword
stuck needle
great sword and great shield
winged crest
great hbg
winged crest
where do 3 and 4 go
mystic cape
Feet
winged crest
bayonetta moment
to facilitate the larger maps in wilds, they're adding some new weapon types that can deal ranged damage, including great bowgun, long bowgun, bowgun and shield, dual bowgun, switch bowgun, charge bowgun, insect bowgun, hunting bowgun, gunbowgun and the return of medium bowgun from tri
stuck needle
I like the sound of insect bowgun. Does that launch one big kinsect or does it rapid fire a swarm of little ones?
balmy swan
depends on which type you use
halcyon fractal
Honestly tho, I would kill for a dual bowgun, with one in each hand akimbo style
vocal haven
where is my sword and hand crossbow bloodborne style
mystic cape
Only issue is bows fire modified javelins and bowguns fire mortar shells
You'd need a way to pack that much punch in a one handed weapon to make it worth the tradeoff
halcyon fractal
Hmm...
I wanna say they have break-action loading for regular bowgun ammo
And maybe a mode that like drains a resource like stamina or health in exchange for more damage OR ammo efficiency
Like you get a chance to not consume ammo with each shot
Idk. I just want dual bowgun
mystic cape
Would become slow firing but with the right powder mix it could hit hard, probably closer range but with a bit more mobility, could work. Though it'd likely fall more in a combo with a shield like the one SnS uses to have the free hand to load it
halcyon fractal
Ooh yeah definitely
Like a Gunlance with actual mobility
Slash stab shoot strafe
mystic cape
Similarly it'd probably do more explosive damage, thus bypassing weakspots and defense
halcyon fractal
Hopefully it doesn't go into the pitfall of the damage not Scaling with rank
I wish gunlances were good and their shelling not doodoo dogass
That or it's a skill issue on my end
mystic cape
I remember GL in Iceborne being good in MR
Though GL does change how it plays depending on the shell type and I was mainly fooling around with Long for funsies
vocal haven
outer heron
fuck yeah
outer heron
also a better look at the leviathan!
vocal haven
I PRAY FOR YOU LAGI
vocal haven
also a better look at the leviathan!
love the sound design of it
outer heron
same
vocal haven
ohh I like how smooth the mounting looks in this. didnt show a lot about air juggling tho
winged crest
my boy lagi... so close...
outer heron
fuck, even if i don't get a lagiacrus
that leviathan right there looks super cool
i would be sad, but not devastated
because i'm anticipating some great ones
winged crest
wat if shagaru magala was just a sort of pupal state and it molts into someting even cooler
outer heron
order was different from both world and rise starting from #2
weak gulch
Hmm, the IG bug seems to mimic your swing arc direction
mystic cape
It also looks like it auto launches while in focus mode
naive elk
hope we get some fucking wild collabs with Wilds
mystic cape
Wuk Lamat ends up in MH WIlds and we play as her for a hunt, Geralt style
winged crest
hope we get some fucking wild collabs with Wilds
bowser
mystic cape
Chain Chomp
stuck needle
godzilla
stuck needle
if they do another FF collab it needs to be with the real strongest mage in the franchise
donald duck
mystic cape
Wouldn't that be a KH collab?
stuck needle
it's like an egg quest, except the egg is trying to beat up the small monsters instead of the other way around
winged crest
I meant as a large monster
like, disregarding that it's made of steel and via MH logic you'd need max sharpness to even hit it, the way they're known to bound and charge and bit (and bark) just seems like a fun fight to me
vocal haven
outer heron
https://youtu.be/Azn6r5wTd48?si=ecOm3TulFZgJIeYH
everything here looks incredible
more hop mobility
more wyrmstake and melee/cannon combos
some kind of fucked up gigaspin wyrmstake rapid-fire special attack
where you drill it in
i have a fucking forward smash now
god
the extra melee-cannon fusion moves
look so fucking good
tiny wind
Did... Did they turn the GL into a freaking mixer ?
Man focus mode, more like Animal cruelty mode
snow helm
Holy shit it looks like they've finally made gunlance not feel so damn clunky to use
Also I realize, this frog gorilla monster implies that there Rajang or another of the ape skeleton monsters is likely to be in the game from the start
teal halo
Oh no rajang is guaranteed it’s ape time
vocal haven
Think confirmed no?
teal halo
Yeah I doubt it
vocal haven
We do get apparently combination attacks with both of your weapons
desert light
We do get apparently combination attacks with both of your weapons
Where's that confirmed?
vocal haven
I vaguely remember it being mentioned in one of the interviews but shrug
mystic cape
If it is it'll be the last one we see a trailer for
Also they definitely expanded the GL move set quite a bit
New full burst follow ups and a quick reload after wyrmstake
rich valve
I'll be honest so far the trailers hadn't hugely impressed me simply because I'm not that deep into analysing individual weapon motions but the GL one was very cool
mystic cape
Fair
gilded mountain
My take on the trailers: looks good but much like world game performance is going to be a make or break at launch.
We'll see how focus mode pans out, it could be fun or it coulkd be one of those things that really hurts game flow, they took a gamble on that for sure. I hope it works out well and is fun
I'm optimistic for the most part, they have said the PC version is going to be natively developed rather than a port of the playstation deployment this time (one of the major issues with World was an instruction set mismatch). I think they have to go that way because at this point the vast majority of their playerbase is on PC, even Japan is like 30-40% PC players now.
I don't think we'll see another World launch disaster
mystic cape
Based on what we see being in Focus Mode has about the same move speed as when the weapon is normally drawn so it likely won't slow things down save for finding the wound to smack
gilded mountain
Yeah. Hopefully we'll get a toggle control so it won't be too disruptive to hand position for movement.
mystic cape
Since the HBG was able to aim normally while in Focus Mode it would be weird if it wasn't a toggle
gilded mountain
The whole system looks WAY better than the clutch claw but so does basically anything. The claw was a cool concept whose gameplay was almost universally hated, so at least they have clear feedback not to do that.
I like that they're taking a lot of the good from Rise, too, and clearly showing in a few places they're NOT keeping the full moveset changes.
desert light
It also looks like the Focus mode will be really good for new players
gilded mountain
"everything is a counter weapon" was fun once
desert light
highlighting good places to hit etc
gilded mountain
ya, that's also very true
desert light
while leaving room for experts to get their doom on
tbh, i will miss the Dual Blades counter and kinda want it to keep that
becuase well
it was awesome
(Look, i once countered a charging Diablos and landed while it crashed in a heap with it's tail flying off, and i've been chasign that high agian ever since)
gilded mountain
Nice 😄
mystic cape
We all have a moment like that
gilded mountain
ya, that's one of the great things about monster hunter 😄
mystic cape
In Iceborne I used the special sheathe counter to counter a Kirin lightening blast for the kill, it was awesome
Wanna see the video?
balmy swan
Yeah. Hopefully we'll get a toggle control so it won't be too disruptive to hand...
I'm hoping for a toggle too, but we'll see how it ends up working
I'm getting the impression that "focus mode" is like 90% a fancy term for "lock targeting to camera" and the rest is icing on the cake. Which I am absolutely fine with
But we'll see! It's early days yet
stuck needle
yeah, so far it's targeting=camera, highlight wounds, and a requirement to trigger wound-exploiting focus mode moves
stuck needle
speaking of crossovers they should bring to Wilds https://www.reddit.com/r/MonsterHunter/comments/1du4uw8/what_on_earth_is_capcom_thinking_this_is_the/?share_id=fFpyc2xDJ7JMIst7sDZhG&utm_content=2&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_source=share&utm_term=1
vocal haven
@frank epoch
Remember you being excited for horn in wilds
Buff zones, air guitar attack
And shockwave attacks 👀
outer heron
https://youtu.be/2gXz5-608Ns?si=HdEnS5ReUx1_9l_9
what the fuck
they just
made hunting horn 200% hh
vocal haven
Focking buff zones
vocal haven
In the last third of the trailer is that a shockwave knockback?
At 0:57
It probably dies coincide with a flinch but still
But it looked like the shockwave travelled further beyond?
mystic cape
It could be a resonating effect sticking to the monster, but it could also be a traveling attack
Since it doesn't seem to stick to the impact point nor senter of mass I'm leaning towards the latter
halcyon fractal
HOORAY
PERFOMANCES ARE BACK
mystic cape
It does look like they kept that one move from Rise where you attached the Thread to the monster to send shockwaves to the connection point for the Focus Attack.
Which looks way sicker when it's a fucking guitar strum solo attack, let's be real
rich valve
it's looking very nice
I guess there is pressure to making hunting horn good in this game in that a lot of people are going to think "well I have a second weapon slot and there's a weapon that I can use to apply buffs and then put it back on my horse" :p
mystic cape
Assuming the buffs persist between swaps
Plus buff duration could make it somewhat impractical if you don't use the weapon to some degree
weak gulch
Looks like a good evolution of World HH in a lot of ways
frank epoch
https://youtu.be/2gXz5-608Ns?si=HdEnS5ReUx1_9l_9
Cautiously optimistic! Looks like a step in the right direction
Looks like they largely removed the "blunt dual blades" feel and there's a bit more forethought into playing songs now so hopefully that gets expanded on a bit
stuck needle
🤩
mystic cape
Also way the hell more shockwaves
Killing monsters with the power of ROCK AND ROLL EPIC GUITAR SOLO
I fully expect the Bocchi solo to be modded in or I will be disappointed in us as a species
frank epoch
Does look like no echo attacks like in iceborne but the slightly faster attacking may help status/ele HHs
vocal haven
mystic cape
Oh wow they're adding variaton to the spirit combo
Also looks like the Iai attacks are going to be more like they were in World
mystic cape
The video specifically mentions that the LS gets strengthened attacks when in Red gauge so I'm wondering if that means the attacks we see after that are because the gauge is in red. Plus the Helmbreaker having a followup is cool.
teal halo
Helmbreaker is now even more motivated
vocal haven
Hyped for db
teal halo
Charge blade my beloved
mystic cape
I'm happy with LS, and now even more motivated not to fuck up Iai Spirit Slash to keep the level up
desert light
II really like that armor set, and the cobbled togther look of the metal parts
vocal haven
I am wondering of they gonna file on the focus mode colour or if it's colour inversion
The current colour on a red monster I imagine could be p tough to see
mystic cape
It's a fairly bright shade of glowing red so it might stand out considering most red monsters aren't that vibrant in coloration
desert light
I just hope they have optiosn for colorblind players
mystic cape
More than likely
zenith sedge
I just managed to defeat Barioth for the first time in Iceborne, god that was an intense fight
teal halo
Barioth is one hell of a fight
outer heron
it's such a breakneck fight
desert light
He's a fucking wall in Iceborne. Very much "you did make a master rank set, right?"
A big tip for him is carry traps, trap him and go after his wings. They're easy to break and make him slip and fumble his jumps
frank epoch
least he flies less than in older games
balmy swan
yup 😅 literally lost by timing out against him, which i don't think i'd ever done before
desert light
Also, don't chase him. He likes to jump out then jump back at you, so he'll boomerang back
Chasing him just leads to Benny hill music
balmy swan
this also matches my memories
but we'll see! i'm only in HR on my PC restart right now
should be fighting Nergigante but i'm procrastinating by grinding out a bunch of gear because why shouldn't i main like four different weapons with 2-3 builds each
frank epoch
there's more than one weapon in monster hunter?
balmy swan
the rumors are true!
desert light
the rumors are true!
Yeah! Greatsword and DUal Blades!
That's it.
frank epoch
typical dual blades delusion 
desert light
I have tow hands, i have two sords
and i have too many monster parts from all the mosnters i've ripped to threads
stuck needle
And to think in Wilds you'll have four swords. Maybe more.
vocal haven
teal halo
YEAYESYSYZH DE SHIIIODJKJTJUIK U JOOJ J H HUH JOJOLION
SKKDKAKALSJO
ALALLSMSKZJKSKDK
CHARGE BLADE
outer heron
https://youtu.be/QrSKxNHCliA?si=lB2k6BY82OGbEWrb
you should clean that link
so it doesn't have the "please associate everyone who clicks with my account" bit at the end
vocal haven
Nodders👍
outer heron
this fucking balls though
vocal haven
so it doesn't have the "please associate everyone who clicks with my account" bi...
Ahh sowy!
vocal haven
teal halo
S
A
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D
S
A
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D
outer heron
there are element discharge combos :)
halcyon fractal
SAED SAED SAED SAED
desert light
Nice to see the chainsaw axe is back too
real zodiac
chainsaw axe was arguably more of a thing in rise
desert light
I rember it being more of a pain to activate in rise, or at least empahised less because of the way skills owrked out
(as in the switchbind skills)
but i am not a charge blade player
The thing that actually really sticks out to me? No panty shots. Small thing but a big thing
mystic cape
Huh, you're right
desert light
Huh, you're right
It's something i always hated in previous games
mystic cape
Though it is still a case of the female hunter having a battle dress whereas the guy has like more normal armor
meager kernel
The thing that actually really sticks out to me? No panty shots. Small thing but...
For a solid second I was trying to figure out what kind of attack a "Panty Shot" was and if a lack of it on charge blades was a good thing or a bad thing
Counterpoint: They should go the DunMeshi route and exclusively give us panty shots from Masc armors. 
mystic cape
Are we counting Kirin's assless chaps?
halcyon fractal
👀
naive elk
The thing that actually really sticks out to me? No panty shots. Small thing but...
My friend has been complaining about getting to see upskirt of his character constantly while fighting in Rise actually
He uses bow
vocal haven
The thing that actually really sticks out to me? No panty shots. Small thing but...
?_?
mystic cape
When the CB does certain moves that cause the skirt of the dress to rise up to camera level you don't see what's up the skirt
vocal haven
Ye I got that
stuck needle
Extremely rad. also looks like the weapon and armor are from a spider (?) monster we haven't seen yet, which is kind of exciting
outer heron
i quite like the crossguard on it
wicked prism
They look way more Moth-y than Spider-y
mystic cape
It could also be a bee or other pollinating insect with the flower theming
outer heron
ooh, a new insectoid skeleton would be super cool
I assume it'd probably be coming from a temnoceran
but if it is some kind of moth, that might be a new body type!
or maybe some weird shagaru masala thievery
rich valve
some kind of new spider or moth would be a good bet, a moth would be very cool but idk... they're pretty distinctly webs on that weapon and moths have silk but don't tend to make webs
a monster hunter moth could though i guess
outer heron
yeah, I was thinking it looked more like a rakna-kadaki weapon
just off the webbiness
but I'd be down
mystic cape
I kinda hope it's a bee monster that summons smaller bee monsters so we can do the bee meme
desert light
?_?
I've been playing these games for over a decade, i usually play female characters because it's easier to make them androgynous in a way that suits my enbyness.
I really, really, really hate random sexulzaiton of characters, all the more so in games that have nothing to do with sexyness, and even more so when there's a massive double standard about it.
it's bad enough you get the "Full helm on guy, a few birts on the faces for the lasses" stuff, but having constnatly unequal shit like that, it's just really unpleasent background radiation
vocal haven
I misunderstood ahhh
I thought reverse and was bring dumbdumb aka "why is this gone" instead of "good its gone"
Sowwy sleep deprivation
desert light
Like, for contrast: Bayonetta doesnt bother me! I know exactly hwat i'm getting into when i play those games, and the sexualization is a chunk of how she's styled and presented. (And it's usually fun, empowering, though it's also very far from perfect).
But when it's say, World of Warcraft "This is a full plate on a guy and a bikini on the girl", it fucking sucks. At least in FF14 when they od it, it's every bit as slutty on hte guys. (usually)
wicked prism
some kind of new spider or moth would be a good bet, a moth would be very cool b...
Moths make silk! And the furry parts of the weapons speak much more to the fluff of a moth than the silk of a spider.
vocal haven
Seltas return would be dope
wicked prism
I wonder how much they'd actually have to change the skeleton of a flying wyvern to turn it into a moth
rich valve
Moths make silk! And the furry parts of the weapons speak much more to the fluff...
I did say that myself in the message you replied to yes
desert light
I wonder how much they'd actually have to change the skeleton of a flying wyvern...
Signfianclty enough i htink a *moth inspired8 wyvern is way more likely
see Astalos being a draognfly wyvern
mystic cape
Also a lightning bug wyvern ba dum tch
desert light
stare
staaaaare
May you be cut in half by a boltreaver astalos 😛
Hyping, but interesting hyping
desert light
So, most interesitng there ist he grapplehook dash
which appears to be a version of the wirebug dash
vocal haven
"A weapon with good mobilty" damm
desert light
Probably leaning into that identiy to seperate it out further from the Greatsword
Wanna pull "Gotcha, ya blighter!" tricks? Greatsword.
Wanna zoop and boop? Hammer.
(Esp since Greatsword is sitll getting more mobile thanks to focus mode letting it turn while charging now)
vocal haven
Is that a counter/Parry at I think 0:41 or just an interruption/stagger
mystic cape
The armor makes me think it might be some kind of poisonous amphibian monster
Huh, so they gave Hammer the Brave Style dash by default, neat
mystic cape
Is that a counter/Parry at I think 0:41 or just an interruption/stagger
Hard to tell since we've seen a couple moves that could be a counter or just an interrupt
rich valve
plague doctor brain hammer is a surprise
outer heron
i was just rewatching the other videos after the hammer showcase
and in the gunlance's i noticed that the shield has a white glow during its showcased guard point
and it also has that glow on the shield during one of the reloads and wyrmstake moves at the end
i think GL is going to be a fucking beast in this game
mystic cape
"BONK"
mystic cape
and it *also* has that glow on the shield during one of the reloads and wyrmstak...
Hm, I wonder if that's going to be the case for all guard points, a visual indicator so you don't have to hear about them or feel them out
winged crest
with all these extra tools all weapons are getting, I'm starting to expect SnS to gain the ability to draw your second weapon with your weapon drawn
outer heron
with all these extra tools all weapons are getting, I'm starting to expect SnS t...
SnS: the second S stands for switch axe
real zodiac
what does a hammer have to think about
Concussions
winged crest
SnS: the second S stands for switch axe
Dual Blade showcase: there's three now
outer heron
four
you strap an extra pair of DBs onto your feet
and then take a bunch of demondrug and ride the high
winged crest
real ingame blackout mechanics
you lose 15 minutes of mission time and gain 4 free part breaks
outer heron
LOL
for real though archdemon mode having you just go fucking apeshit with an extra pair of leg-mounted DBs would go hard
halcyon fractal
what does a hammer have to think about
more stuff than the average hammer main /j /lh
winged crest
more stuff than the average hammer main /j /lh
i get that it's a joke but why would you specifically mention you're left-handed
halcyon fractal
😔
rich valve
they always slack off on making left-handed hammers
mystic cape
Cause every Hunter is right-handed
stuck needle
even Shara's hammer is right-handed
winged crest
left handed mode that gives you an advantage specifically against stonefist daimyo hermitaur
rich valve
looking at the hammer video again it seems they are commiting a grievous sin
it looks like the female armour doesnt get the plague doctor mask 😔
what's even the point then.....
void narwhal
This is truly the worst damn thing in Monster Hunter
Gendered armor is so rough out there
winged crest
it's 2025 wishlist now, time to let us choose per armor piece which one we want
teal halo
I mean…we don’t know. Maybe the mask IS female exclusive which is also stupid why is the coolest possible mask gender exclusive either way
desert light
what does a hammer have to think about
Gotta do the thinking fort the hammer users.
real zodiac
Monster Hunter is kinda weird with armor gender
Men get standard overwrought fantasy armor, women get combat skirts, thigh highs and heels
desert light
It's all over the place on wether you get that or not too 😦
void narwhal
And men also sometimes get Gundam Armor
But for me it's maaaaasks, they always just give 'em the Tiara version
it works for some looks but horf
Just give erryone a toggle
stuck needle
Hrm. If I was looking to play a monhun before Wilds came out, how do people rank Iceborn vs Sunbreak?
desert light
Massively different experiences
Iceborne is going to be more like what you get out of Wilds
Monster Hunter has two teams that work on it, and they do separate games.
Eg, we got World and Iceborne. Then that team has gone to work making Wilds, while the other team finished making Rise & Sunbreak.
Rise and Sunbreak are a lot more crazy, push things to the limits. A lot faster paced, a lot zanier in general
stuck needle
Yup yup. I finished both World and Rise basegame, so I've got a sense of their vibes.
rich valve
I liked the Sunbreak endgame quite a lot, the qurio stuff ended up giving you totally ludicrous builds but it was also a fun game loop
snow helm
https://youtu.be/1SVhAsgES1k?si=HU5ACFQmn-0950R0
I really want to see whatever monster this gear is from
It's cool that they're not just going with the basic iron and bone armor in these weapon previews
outer heron
But for me it's maaaaasks, they always just give 'em the Tiara version
this is part of what i love about the odogaron armor
it still has the goofy thigh window, but both genders get the rad fucking demon mask
and the huge ponytail
void narwhal
everything about odogaron so cool.. world had really killer additions both monster/fashion wise
rapid lion
Odogaron is maybe my favorite monster? Such an interesting and kinetic fight with dual blades and especially with insect glaive because he has some of the few attacks you can reasonably jump over... I just feal like a matador (or a toreador? I'm not actually sure) when fight it.
desert light
I just enjoy that he's such a goofy mad dog about everything
Good little murder puppy
void narwhal
Love a monster that's sort of 'what if 'Insert Creature Here' was sooooo mad'
halcyon fractal
raging brachydios, furious rajang
real zodiac
Odor is cool
I kinda feel like it eats Zinogre and Magnamalo's lunches?
I feel like they all fill a thematic niche and Odogaron feels the most like an actual animal
Least 'anime hyperbeast' to borrow a term
halcyon fractal
both anime hyperbeast and realistic animal monsters do have their place in the series, ofc
real zodiac
But I don't think magnamalo would fit in world
halcyon fractal
^^^ exactly
same reason why I don't think Magnamalo is gonna return in Wilds
watch me eat my words when Apollo socks me in the face with the Gift Of Prophecy like a kickball
halcyon fractal
potentially? But idk how it'd fit in the muted color scheme of Wilds
and other factors too ofc
like the more emphasis on "Weird, but still grounded" creature design
real zodiac
I think post-game release/expac monsters are pretty fast and loose with the core games themes?
halcyon fractal
because lets be honest, Magnamalo is a samurai sabre cat with hellfire spewing out of its body. Its flashy and eye catching, but its not a realistic monster
halcyon fractal
I think post-game release/expac monsters are pretty fast and loose with the core...
I suppose so
with Iceborne getting Raging Brachy
and Worlds getting... Deviljho?
I mean, the pickle still fits the themes of World
real zodiac
I guess I'm mostly thinking the post game expac monsters
halcyon fractal
yeah
real zodiac
Like world/IB getting furious Jang, raging brachy,
halcyon fractal
heck, Rajang was a post launch monster too
so ig I can see where you're coming from
tho if I ever get to see Magnamalo again, it'll be too soon. Not because I hate his fight or theme or gear, they're all very good. Its just... well, he's overdesigned
anyway uh, I gtg for a bit. Got lunch to eat and a class in a few hours. We can continue the convo later if you'd like
my apologies
real zodiac
And then rise had a Japanese myth theme with yokai, and then sunbreak had the medival hammer horror vibe, and then post-game we get palette raths, invisible narga
desert light
But I don't think magnamalo would fit in world
Zingy works in World, but Mags doesnt
Mags is as Andy said, overdesigned
he breaks a lot of the rules of design that monster hunter has going on in bad ways
Lots of surperfulous spikes and horns that dont make al ot of biolgoical sense
like compare ZIngore - Zin's spikey back scales make sense, because they serve as hives for it's bugs
and because Zin gets predated upon by Amatsu, a flying creature
Mags is protrayed as basically just being a scavengerr
(and mosnter hutner is gneerally very good about fantastical but still biolgoically mosdtlym aking sense designs)
halcyon fractal
exactly! That's why it doesn't make sense why Magnamalo has all those spiky bits on him
and the Hellfire
goddddd the Hellfire
outer heron
a lot of rise monsters follow that overdesigned animesque Magic Fantasy Beast paradigm
halcyon fractal
even the more down to earth ones are really pushing it, ngl
like I love Aknosom and Tetranodon, but they feel way too colourful for a monhun monster
and overly designed
outer heron
Narwa/Ibushi, Magnamalo, Malzeno, gaismagorm, almudron
are the ones that i think of specifically
although malzeno less than the others
i think almudron could be adjusted pretty easily, but its presentation in rise tips it over imo
halcyon fractal
I personally like Gaismagorm a LOT, especially because of Unnatural History Channel's vid on it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlAcFVTd5NU
outer heron
gaismagorm is super cool looking
i don't think the Anime Bullshit is bad in all cases
but it's a very wacky looking creature
even for an ED
halcyon fractal
oh of course, but there is a time in place for it
halcyon fractal
but it's a very wacky looking creature
it does make me think of what environment exists under the monster hunter world that allows for such an elder to evolve like that
like, the sarcastic fringe mouth snout is definitely there to help in Qurio collection
and the big arm wing things make it excel at burrowing through rock
outer heron
time to listen, then
halcyon fractal
yeah!
outer heron
"the subterranean titans of an underground kingdom full of life" makes me want a total underground monhun game now
or the Wilds G-Rank DLC, if that's how they end up doing GR/MR again
halcyon fractal
oh yeah I hope at least the everwood/guiding lands of the eventual Wilds DLC is an underground paradise filled with monsters
and maybe there's a gaismagorm skeleton there
or a zorah magdaros shell in the background
real zodiac
I loved malz
And Almudron is a reall neat take on a water dragon
I also don't really get tetranodon begging to colorful, when I think it's much more naturalistic than somnacanth
It's just green?
desert light
goddddd the Hellfire
So, the hellfire works for me, because "Weaponized rotting gasses" is cool
Yeah, dont agreeo n Tet being too coolforul
honestly, most of the Rise mosnters work just fine for me
i love Malz
He's great
Still need to do all the post game content and fight Primordial Malz sometime
Mags is the only one that sticks out to me as overdeisgned
He makes a lot of sense from the yoaki deisgn approach, but he still doenst feel quite right
Monsters i do fucking love in Rise though: GOSS HARAG.
halcyon fractal
GOSS SWEEP
real zodiac
Goss sweep, goss slash, goss smash
halcyon fractal
Goss swipe, goss bite, goss bash
wait does goss even have a bite attack
and oooooof this room is as cold as his breath augh
its making it difficult to type
real zodiac
Goss is such fun with pizza slice fire charge blade
Those iceblades are mad fire hit zones
halcyon fractal
I also don't really get tetranodon begging to colorful, when I think it's much ...
I supppse so, but put it against other green monsters like rathian...
then again its very mossy
so maybe that's just a nitpick of mine ¯_(ツ)_/¯
crude kayak
https://youtu.be/QrSKxNHCliA
Oh hey not transforming into sword mode after AED and continuing combo?
vocal haven
ye that the focus one
vocal haven
the drum magazine fucks
outer heron
the explodo-beacon
whatever that's called
the ammo they used with it was single-shot
also yeah the drum mag fucks
100%
vocal haven
whatever that's called
wyvern mine or something?
but there was so much burst fire with the non special shots. i kinda really like it
looks like they wanna make it even more distinct opposed to hbg
outer heron
yeah, and we haven't even scratched the surface
according to the dev team, the bowguns are the most drastically changed weapons in Wilds
vocal haven
👀
outer heron
and considering what we've seen on the Gunlance...
vocal haven
honestly i really hope db gets some bigger changes aswell
vocal haven
I wanna play swaxe this game aswell
vocal haven
and considering what we've seen on the Gunlance...
and the fucking buff zone hunting horn with ranged shockwave attacks
outer heron
the Weapon Use Priority for me is sns -> gl -> cb/db/lbg
vocal haven
I just dont wanna have world dbs where its just spam demon mode and do clutch claw attack and beyblade whenever possible button mash
outer heron
and then swaxe/hammer/ig for the "don't really play but sometimes" bottom tier
vocal haven
ye
outer heron
I just dont wanna have world dbs where its just spam demon mode and do clutch cl...
I'd also like to see sns stuff that disincentives perfect rush spam without just nerfing it
vocal haven
yeeeee
outer heron
bc IB sns was mostly Perfect Rush x1000
vocal haven
yeppers
for me its prob db -> swaxe/gl -> sns/bow/cb
i really wanna actually play and learn gl i think
it looks really cool in wilds
I am most whlemed so far i think by Greatsword
i played i always a lot but i dunno
compared to all the trailers it looks kinda the most stale i think
outer heron
yeah wilds gl looks so fucking incredible
I'm hoping GS has some more new tech that hasn't been displayed
but I bounced off it pretty hard, so I wouldn't personally be hit by a lack of attention
just, y'know
vocal haven
yeee
outer heron
would feel bad
vocal haven
i am also looking forward to bow
my biggest concern atm with the weapon swapping for me is for mouse and keyboard like me
cause historically the controls are very different
and icannot imagine something more painful then switching control schemes mid hunt
since even stuff like menu buttons change between ranged and melee
outer heron
oh, kbm does not seem like it'd be a good time, no
vocal haven
so i pray for mroe even control schemes. you can rebind but its just a pain
for swaxe tho
i think it would be really dope to have the focus attack be a transformation while the axe is stuck in the monster
desert light
honestly i really hope db gets some bigger changes aswell
What do you think DB needs that you want to see it changed?
vocal haven
Honestly I dont even know if i can fully articulate that. I would like maybe for archdemon mode to be more important and not just to be better stage in between recovering stamina for demon mode, maybe more distinct combo routes with worthwhile finishers at the end. I could see like mini counters maybe. not like the big counters like longsword but some sort of moves with extended evade windows and maybe a move follow up to evading successfully (liek a blade/drill dash or something)
but again I am not even sure I know what i think it needs until i play/see. I just would like for its playstyle to be more distinct and less super streamlined then i think it is atm
mystic cape
LBG and HBG sharing a system for energy for special ammo is pretty cool
balmy swan
one thing i'm curious about is--in World (and maybe Rise but i haven't played nearly as much of it), the specific types of ammo a LBG rapid-fires is definitive of that particular LBG's identity. like it might be able to fire a few different types of status/elemental ammo, but these specific ones will get more bang for your buck, so to speak 😛
so if i'm understanding right that Wilds LBGs can rapid-fire any ammo type, how does that differentiation get maintained? are LBGs going to have fewer ammo types available each? is there some other system at play that's not visible in the trailer?
to be clear this is not a criticism, because MonHun is consistently pretty good at making the choices between weapons mean meaningful. just curious what it's going to look like in this case
desert light
It wouldnt surpise me if they're trying to clean the ammo system up
it's been a consitent pain and ocnfusion poitn for a while
brave hazel
...ugh
I wanna play World but I don't wanna wait for it to download
This sucks
...wait
I still have it downloaded on my laptop
Crisis averted
mystic cape
I wonder if they'll keep that all the ammos will need to be crafted
stuck needle
I could see them doing away with crafting "normal" ammo (standard, pierce, spread, elemental) and maybe status ammo, but I don't know how they'd balance unlimited sticky or cluster
Cooldowns I guess? Huge energy costs?
desert light
There's a bunch of ways you can tackle it, including just limited/quest, or limited/life/camp equiv
stuck needle
That's true. I guess what I mean is that none of the other weapons have something like that, so it'd feel like a big diversion
desert light
Portable 3rd had so many goofy bowgun designs
halcyon fractal
true!
god I love that the tank returned in rise/sunbreak
god I hate you Rex Fusillade I
please.
gentle knoll
meanwhile lance mains: they'll come, eventually, they always do
halcyon fractal
🫡 and we will welcome them with open arms
desert light
meanwhile lance mains: they'll come, eventually, they always do
lANCE MAINS MAINLY COME AT NIGHT. mAINLY.
halcyon fractal
auto guard AND manual guard
outer heron
both bowguns have an Energy system for special alt-fires now
outer heron
all the ordnance weapons so far fucking ball
lbg has mortar or grenade shots for a couple attacks
and seems to be almost entirely rapid otherwise
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👀
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we call it shops in the biz
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and GL got a lot of new combo swing/shell attacks
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GL has the drill
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and seems to be almost entirely rapid otherwise
I didn't notice that!
ouhhh
r
rocket launcher???
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woah rathalos confirmed????
outer heron
hmm
nothing super new here
other than more confirmation that every shield weapon is getting guard points
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Sort of to be expected with S&S, I feel
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those shield bashes do look the closest you can get to just personally decking a monster in the snout
outer heron
the first focus attack is also using one of the backstep attacks from previous games
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also the rathalos female armor looks really cool
altho it might've always been like that
outer heron
specifically, the charged swing -> falling shield bash
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that rath armor doesn't look new to me
outer heron
altho it might've always been like that
the visor is a bit lower down than in previous games
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Is that slide attack new after the shield bashes at 0:15?
outer heron
and the greaves actually fucking cover some of the leg this time
but seems like standard fem los otherwise
no
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wouldn't it be cool if we got some non boring male rathian armor this time around
outer heron
well
vocal haven
The last attack ender looked dope
outer heron
it's a little bit different
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Liking using focus mode to aim and leap into the shield slammer
outer heron
it looks like it's using a slide animation similar to CB's sns combo
as opposed to its old one
but that's minor animation differences as per normal
outer heron
Liking using focus mode to aim and leap into the shield slammer
i liked the old falling bash input
because of how spammable it is
but we'll see what it gets in its moveset instead of that backstep follow-up
outer heron
i hope perfect rush still exists
but isn't as singularly insane as in IB
it kinda disappointed me in rise
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Dispoainting they didnt give rath a bit of a glow up armor wise
personally i think rathalos armor is both a classic and really good already
the only thing I'd change looks to be changed here, in giving the female rathian armor something to cover the thighs with
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move the exposed thigh to rathian armor, both sexes
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rathian jock strap
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rathian jock strap
it always irked me that rathian f gets the way cool plated gown, and rathian m gets runescape steel plate with some green shit stapled on
outer heron
oh, i never liked the plated gown either lmao
i always thought it made the toons look like a beetle
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i fuckin love it
outer heron
this is a cool attack
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wish the regal theme carried into the male half though
or even into the full rath line
outer heron
seeing that perfect rush seems to be a focus attack, i'm really wondering how focus mode works
the specifics, that is
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ooh
outer heron
desperately hoping it's a real move
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yeah, it's nice to see that we'll probably have some sort of fire monster in the game
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mhm! Hopefully its rathian
desert light
the specifics, that is
My guess is that it's a button you press and hold, stance style
outer heron
that is a pretty damn good looking rathalos sword, yeah
love the texture on the holes
and the fire fx
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yeah its very pretty
outer heron
i hope it means we'll get those same fucking rad elemental fx for lightning & ice and the others
and on all weapons
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while we're looking at weapons
godddd the basic weapons look SO fancy
at least I assume they are
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scratches on the bayonet
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and the GL looks like a cowbow armament
outer heron
yeah the gunlance looks gorgeous
outer heron
at least I assume they are
oh, i would bet that this is from one of the early monsters
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the fricking flintlocke
outer heron
not a standard Iron/etc. weapon
outer heron
maybe yeah
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so maybe it is a metal tree gunlance
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i also noticed the charge blade looking ornate as fuck
outer heron
what a gorgeous shield too
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i also noticed the charge blade looking ornate as fuck
it has webbings!
so it probably comes from a temnoceran
which would make sense
outer heron
yep yep, that's the current assumption
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look at this
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the CB trailer for rise has another temnoceran as the gear
outer heron
are you catching up on all the videos rn?
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are you catching up on all the videos rn?
nah I just skimmed through most of them
so I'm rewatching all of them
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ah
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can't get a good shot of the shield in shield mode
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this chatacabra stuff looks fantastic too
AND i love the hairstyle on the hunter
finally. a black hairstyle that isn't a killmonger cut
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also the chatacabra helmets a mask