Monster Hunter

[naive elk]

honestly

[outer heron]

I just think "Red Dragon but it shoots lasers" is rad

[naive elk]

i dislike Safi much more as a design than Fatalis

Fatalis is at least distinct

[outer heron]

I disagree, honestly

[naive elk]

it's not only because Safi is the most bog standard dragon design ever

[outer heron]

it looks like a bunch of the dragons I can think of from like 80s media

[naive elk]

but also because Xeno'jiiva exists

[outer heron]

even with the neck

[naive elk]

Safi'jiivas true sin

is being an older version of Xeno'jiiva

for me at least

[outer heron]

I can agree that xeno is cooler

but fatalis is just maleficent's dragon form

[naive elk]

Xeno'jiiva is a million times cooler and more interesting as a design

[mellow harness]

i feel like safi and fatalis contrast each other really well. Safi feels like a modern depiction of dragon: a incredibly mighty and rare magical creature among other mighty creatures, and one that happens to be evil/have goals running counter to the goals of humanity. Fatalis feels like a medieval dragon: a otherworldly force of death that radiates malevolence and more than little bit of unholyness.

like, safi feels like killing it marks you as a level 20 dnd hero, killing fatalis feels like it marks you as a sant.

[naive elk]

which absolutely ruins Safi'jiiva for me

[outer heron]

which isn't very distinct either

[naive elk]

Fatalis feels more like a classical serpent yeah

[outer heron]

well, it is, just not from pop media

[naive elk]

i actually agree with that a lot

the way it walks on the ground with it's long slender body and neck in world is very serpent like

[mellow harness]

dragon back when dragon was synonymus with like, a great devil or satan himself.

[naive elk]

exactly!

this is very like, old school dragon kinda beat

[mellow harness]

the fucking latin in the theme for him also helps with this.

[naive elk]

yeah

the vibes for Fatalis fight in World are immaculate

i think they perfectly sell Fatalis as a terrifying beast

[outer heron]

it's too bad the hitboxes are such dogshit that I never want to see fatalis again

capcom fuckin called back to MH1 by giving fatalis MH1 hitboxes

[naive elk]

yeah i haven't defeated Fatalis in world yet

i still think he's cooler than Safi anyhow

i get why you might not think so

but that's definitely how i feel

[mellow harness]

huh

i was looking for paintings of saint george slaying the dragon, since thats like the peak example of the hunter as a holy force and the monster as a unholy force. but all of the paintings for those are like, the size of a large dog

[outer heron]

the size of its tail hitbox is a sin

yeah I wouldn't think safi was cool if it didn't have lasers

[naive elk]

Fatalis being styled as a european wyrm and the latin music and chanting and shit when you fight him is just

[outer heron]

but it drops a nuclear bomb on you

and so I do

[naive elk]

Safi is just like, the most standard red dragon aside from it's laser beams

[naive elk]

i will say that Safi is perhaps the coolest fight in the game

[naive elk]

as much as i HATE it's design due to the aforementioned Xeno'jiiva connection

as a fight

it's one of the absolute best

Sapphire Star is also a sick as fuck move

[outer heron]

stupid dog, making me look bad

[naive elk]

much better than Escaton Judgement 💀

[outer heron]

yyyyeaah

safi 100% sold itself to me on fight design and powers

but I also just like dragons

[naive elk]

ok apparently the official name is Star of the Emperor or Sapphire of the Emperor but Sapphire Star is cooler so i'll call it that

i will say

the absolute only reason i hate it is because it is connected to Xeno'jiiva

[outer heron]

so "dragon that fires fuckhueg kill lasers and also hits you with spirit bomb" is just

peak

[naive elk]

i don't think it's like, a bad design by itself

[mellow harness]

apparently it also spits venom instead of fire, and rather than killing the dragon in the fight, george leashes it, it starts acting like a "meek beast" and then he takes it back to town and executes it infront of the townsfolk

[naive elk]

but the fact that it's contrasted with Xeno brings it down to hate level for me

[naive elk]

wow

[mellow harness]

so all in all, pretty lame showing from the dragon.

[naive elk]

that's like, really pathetic for a dragon

kind of shite

honestly

[outer heron]

sad

[mellow harness]

we thought it was fatalis, but actually it was a pueki pueki

[outer heron]

I do love my blue-white skrunkly though

[naive elk]

Xeno'jiiva as a design is one of the coolest and most interesting in World

and while the fight sucks balls

i can still appreciate the design and concept

[outer heron]

safi fight is 100% just "xeno fight but good"

[naive elk]

and going from basically my favourite little scrunglo to just

least interesting fantasy dragon

i hate it

this is such an intensely fucking interesting design

[outer heron]

shoutouts to namielle

[naive elk]

Namielle is super cool

love Namielle

also very alien and rad

[outer heron]

he squirm

[frank epoch]

Namielle's my favorite elder by a long shot

[naive elk]

also has really cool armor

[frank epoch]

Aesthetics wise

[outer heron]

it's so cool how many different deep-sea creatures they managed to cram into nami's design

without making it look like a hodgepodge

[naive elk]

yeah, i love it

[frank epoch]

I do kinda wish there was a little more flair to the fight but it's not bad

[naive elk]

i'm a big Shara Ishvalda fan

fucked up looking beafte

[outer heron]

also "abyssal zone + fucking lightning" is rad

[naive elk]

Shara Ishvalda is such a freaky looking motherfucker

[outer heron]

I love that its environment is just Moody Storm Time

[naive elk]

"what the fuck is wrong with it" type beat

[outer heron]

I wish shara got a better fight than that phase 1

the stone armor idea slapped

but

[naive elk]

absolutely tweaking

[outer heron]

the two-phase execution was not it

the like

trypophobia skin

is really interesting

[full sage]

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/monsterhunter/images/8/81/MHGen-Nakarkos_Render_003.png/revision/latest?cb=20160128154544

oh how I miss you, cuttlefish guy

[outer heron]

oh man I love nakarkos

[naive elk]

i really like how Shara Ishvalda looks

and it's sort of like, almost religious design

[frank epoch]

Nakarkos kicked ass but the fight could've been better

[outer heron]

I love that it's a sonic earthbender too

and its absolutely religiously evocative design, yeah

[naive elk]

like it's weapons have a sort of buddhist/hinduist kinda vibe to them all and it's reflected really interestingly in Shara Ishvalda's design in ways i can't really describe

[outer heron]

especially with its gear

which is the coolest in the series

[naive elk]

it's head in particular is like

really evocative

[outer heron]

shara weapons are without a doubt the best-designed in monhun

close competitors are like

[naive elk]

just looks fucking sick

[outer heron]

zinogre axe-guitar hh

and Gunlances As a Concept

[naive elk]

the armor is also just ultra blatant about it

particularly a fan of the hammer, Dawning Tranquility

[frank epoch]

Nakarkos is certainly not the worst fight ||Zorah Magdaros...not much of a "fight" but...||

[outer heron]

the s&s is incredible too

honestly all of them though

[frank epoch]

Do love the Shara hammer

Schlap

[outer heron]

shara weapons are universally gorgeous

[naive elk]

yeah this is sich as fuck

[frank epoch]

Guild palace hunting horn is so cool. 40k looking ass

[naive elk]

holy shit those are cool

the names are sick as fuck too

[outer heron]

yeah

the names are peak fiction

[naive elk]

"Boundless Farsight" "Manifested Lotus" "Inescapable Karma"

[outer heron]

Immovable Dharma

Unblinking Gatekeeper

Broken Silence

[naive elk]

Broken Silence

shits fire yo

Radiant Flow

[outer heron]

Infinite Wisdom

[naive elk]

Austere Paradise

[outer heron]

they go so hard

[naive elk]

insanely hard

[outer heron]

and their visual design is top-tier

I just wish they were better mechanically

[naive elk]

they COOKED with this IG design

[outer heron]

because they fuck hard enough to kill fatalis with their raw aura

[frank epoch]

They're pretty dang good for when you get them

[outer heron]

the bowguns are incredible too

wish I could find hi-res shots of em

but Fading Blossom and Solemn Reflection are both phenomenal designs and great names

[turbid moat]

Safi has some really good carryover from xenojiva and fridge horror but it requires paying attention more than is typically possible in the raid

[naive elk]

not enough

Proof of a Hero goes so insanely hard

it's absurd how hard it goes

[mellow harness]

do elaborate

[fiery egret]

I like Safi, it is a really good "classic" dragon design, like gregori from Dragons Dogma

[brave hazel]

I mean it makes sense in the context of MonHun's general rules for elder dragons

The more like a regular fantasy dragon it looks, the stronger it is

...still really fucking boring compared to Xeno's design, though

[naive elk]

yeah

like i said

it's a fine design

but it being connected to Xeno ruins it for me personally

[brave hazel]

Agreed, I fucking love that it's a khakkhara instead of a glaive, really unique looking

My favorite's gotta be the longsword though

I'm a sucker for swords that have a very plain, basic profile but have really intricate detailing

Shame the Supremacy Blade exists, that's 100% my favorite LS design

[turbid moat]

Part of it is the attack patterns where they use the same moves but xeno is toppling itself cuz its a fresh outta the egg baby that doesn’t know its a nuclear bomb, and then the way it moves and its anatomy is kinda just off, its not really a dragon so much as a bug trying to imitate a dragon

The wings basically shouldn’t work, its all hard carapace

Its got false eyes and lotta weird vents & breathing holes

Safijiva is like shrimps

Its bugs

[turbid moat]

Who up kulving they taroth

[brave hazel]

I can help run it later if you want

[tiny wind]

splatoon

[naive elk]

You're a kid you're a squid~

[turbid moat]

Gonna slap KT with some friends if anybody wants in

[undone bolt]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/108686075781726208/1212564045501169744/055bc60590b936717637729c87b946a1f476e771879f5629d795794c2ac845cc_1.jpg2.jpg?ex=65f24b44&is=65dfd644&hm=7ab13b3bbc9522fc83d8750df36953a12d79b984be0301e3a38bf858775c47a7&=&format=webp&width=450&height=447

[turbid moat]

😤

[real zodiac]

Wait I thought elders were immune to capture for some reason

[turbid moat]

All elders are! On a normal monster there’s a second number in the parentheses

Ecological research does give you a kill count for every monster tho

[real zodiac]

OH

I misread

but congrats!

[naive elk]

Gj

[brave hazel]

Excellent work!

...man

It really does suck that none of Alatreon's weapons are any good

The armor's decent but why wear it when you can have raging brachy and teostra?

[turbid moat]

iirc there’s something goofy to do with the dual blades

And at least they’re pretty

I’m here for fashion hunter

[frank epoch]

They're good for dragon-weak matchups

[turbid moat]

Just low dragonseal though which means they’re still not like amazing for safi I think

Without a boost somewhere

[mellow harness]

random ass thought, but its interesting how the viper tobi introduction cutscene sells the danger of the monsters more than almost everything else ive seen in the series.

like, something about the lighting, the sudden "oh shit there's a monster there" nature of it, the slow predatory advance of the tobi. all makes the situaion feel so much more deadly than bombastic cutscenes where the monster comes out swinging from the get go.

hell, i dont know what it is about the camera angle, but it managed to be the first cutscene that made me not just notice, but viscerally feel how big these monsters are in comparison to people, which is wierd considering viper tobi isn't that big for a monster.

[brave hazel]

...fuck silver rathalos

And gold rathian

Mostly silver rathalos though, because at least gold rathian actually stays on the ground long enough for you to hit her and doesn't hover around in the fucking air

[halcyon fractal]

Which silver and gold raths are you fighting? The ones in world or rise?

[brave hazel]

World

[halcyon fractal]

ohh yeah that makes sense

[turbid moat]

Is it the event ones or the GL ones

GL is muuuuch better for fighting them

And then arena

Because you fight em in nerg lair on the events which means zero ammo or traps

[brave hazel]

Even in the GL silver rathalos is fucking awful

Half the time he's flying around and you can't reliably hit him

[wicked prism]

GL Silver Rathalos is relatively easy if you spam jumping attacks

You can get mounts/knockdowns reliably

[weak gulch]

I think still vulnerable to getting flinch shot in the face, makes flying monsters dive 45 degrees downwards.

[naive elk]

Lmao

[twin ibex]

What... what does that even look like?

[outer heron]

crunch

[halcyon fractal]

ragdoll kulu

[halcyon fractal]

https://vxtwitter.com/monsterhunter/status/1764199031872352700?s=61

😔

i was expecting it to be higher on the list

[outer heron]

same :(

[frank epoch]

I think it's because the fight is kinda whatever

Namielle is one of my favorites but the fight leaves something to be desired

[naive elk]

Namielle design is peak

[halcyon fractal]

personally I love the fight when I first fought it many years ago

cuz the concept of it using water slime and electricity was peak, especially its nova

but, in hindsight, i can see why people didn't like it as much due to said fight

Plus its been here for only a single game, compared to like... shagaru magala or nargacuga

[turbid moat]

I had much more significant distaste for it after that bastard of a fight didn’t even lead to a unique charge blade model

Every other weapon

Every single one

Gets some wild wild rgb models

[halcyon fractal]

At least the swaxe looks good...?

but yeah 😔

[mystic cape]

Namielle was good for Elder Dragon Gem farming at least

[queen jewel]

namielle my beloved

I thought it was wild that strax was #20

[mystic cape]

As cool as "ROCKET POWERED ELDER DRAGON" is in concept when fighting it can be a bit of a pain in the ass

[hearty kayak]

https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxZd3P8WO4vOfMQngbOlZEQ0IMUFAyGrfN?feature=shared how do you do this?

[mystic cape]

Impact Echo Wave is set up similarly to songs and you can queue up to three at a time to play on a HH in World

At least I think that's how it works based on the UI

[hearty kayak]

i got that far

but everytime i try it reswings it everytime

while in the vidoe its just boom boom boom

when i try it its

boom swing boom swing boom

[mystic cape]

Have you been holding the button or pressing it for each song?

I'll be honest I didn't really mess with HH so I'm just guessing

[hearty kayak]

thank you

you have been more help then 4 enitre guides have ever been

[mystic cape]

Oh shit that worked? Awesome! ...Wait, that could be sarcasm.

[hearty kayak]

holdingi t was the key

[mystic cape]

Cool

[frank epoch]

A bit late and you may have gotten it already but pressing the recital button once will perform all songs currently in your staff (up to three). You can press the recital button once more after any of the songs to repeat the songs that you played (also up to three) in a single tune. Holding is unnecessary (though it may be a setting that I'm unfamiliar with)

I've got probably 600 hours of just hunting horn experience in Iceborne, I can answer any question you've got in the future, feel free to ping me

[hearty kayak]

the problem seemde to be i was mashing the button

[frank epoch]

Yeah you don't wanna do that, one press to recital and one press to encore will take care of ya

[halcyon fractal]

https://vxtwitter.com/monsterhunter/status/1764561416269484366

HUH

I thought he'd be higher than 17th

[void narwhal]

I think Raging was a seperate vote, might'a set him lower

[halcyon fractal]

🤔

[mystic cape]

I get the feeling "I'd thought they'd be higher" is going to be a shared sentiment until we get into like the top 5

[brave hazel]

Part of me hopes some shit-tier monster is in top 5, or at least top 10

Like Great Jagras, or Great Jaggi

[mystic cape]

Dodogama

[brave hazel]

How's the fit look

[naive elk]

Good swag

[rugged anvil]

https://vxtwitter.com/kochamhw/status/1764848316758499485?t=mwaYjQwXUwiB6TgeHw8Hng&s=19

[gentle knoll]

might as well post the other entrants drawn by this artist:
https://vxtwitter.com/kochamhw/status/1763761151098101841 https://vxtwitter.com/kochamhw/status/1764123537403769130 https://vxtwitter.com/kochamhw/status/1764485928427323560

[turbid moat]

Finally

I can now roleplay great girros

[rapid lion]

Do we know where Odogaron is in the rankings? Its design is good-but-not-great, but its fight is amazing imo. Although it's amazing in ways that are very hard to describe.

Or Legiana?

[gentle knoll]

pretty sure this is just popularity and they're only releasing one ranking a day so those two haven't been announced yet, tho i'd be hard pressed to imagine those two not on the list

[gentle knoll]

fucking shagaru magala with the maraka is sending me (pretty sure this is a pun based on similarity between magala マガラ and maraka マラか)

[rapid lion]

I just wasn't sure if they were revealed yet or not, since I haven't been keeping up with the list.

[halcyon fractal]

https://vxtwitter.com/monsterhunter/status/1764923806932680962?t=943oi60aO1lS5lwp13wXYw&s=19

HUH

[naive elk]

surprisingly low

as much as i am a Safi anti due to the design, the fight is amazing

[twin ibex]

What's wrong with the design?

[frank epoch]

It's aesthetically a bit "generic fantasy dragon", doesn't really have the unique flair that monsters typically have

Purely based on visuals at least

I think it would've been cooler if they stuck closer to xeno jiiva

[mystic cape]

TBF one of the staples of MonHun is that if a monster looks more like a fantasy dragon it's probably a world ending threat

Fatalis is the standard bearer for this

[fiery egret]

To me Safi is like Fatalis, just a dang good classic dragon design

[frank epoch]

Yeah it doesn't personally bother me, that's just the throughline I see

[naive elk]

Xeno'jiiva

The fact that Xeno'jiiva exists makes Safi one of my least favourites designs in World

[rich valve]

xenomorph becoming d&d cover art is like, a vaguely amusing choice but also makes me very uninterested in the design
the fact that the stereotype for "world-ending threat level dragons" is "completely uninspired design you can see on any dragon poster" has also never been very exciting to me though

[naive elk]

Xeno'jiivais a super interesting and alien/bug-like

And Safi'jiiva is the most bogstandard red dragon from DnD

It's a downgrade

I think Fatalis works because it's very Wyrm like

I think Alatreon works because it had really big horns that accentuate its head and it has the spikes sticking out and shit as well as a really thick tail so it still looks pretty distinct

Safi'jiiva could potentially be ok on its own but also it very much is supposed to be adult Xeno'jiiva and that makes it not work at all for me

[undone bolt]

yeah it's definitely a "fuck, go back" kinda situation

[turbid moat]

I will cape for safi until the day I die

its a bug wearing a dragon shell most of its movements are just a bit off for what you'd observe its musculature to be and it keeps all the false eyes as heat vents

wings are fully carapace, the membranes is the same texture as its hide

[naive elk]

It's not communicated nearly well enough

You sure could be right about all these things but you could never tell unless you were inspecting the model so it does not make a difference

[turbid moat]

I mean people rave about Shara for a lot of stuff thats also not really noticeable midfight

The eyes aren’t really noticeable unless you get funny finish screens

[naive elk]

Yeah but Shara Ishvaldas ENTIRE design is extremely unique anyway

The eyes are neat but it's noymt the kinda thing that makes or breaks it

The design works perfectly well in the perspective you are given to see it, aka the perspective of a hunter

This is why the Shara Ishvalda eye detail is not an issue of any kind even though it's barely visible while Safi'jiiva's details, to me at least, are an issue

I don't mean to discourage your opinions also, i might have come off a bit agressive and if i did i apologize

I think that it does not communicate the details that would make it more interesting well enough at all, especially when compared to how prominent they are on Xeno'jiiva

Even comparing to Alatreon and Fatalis, they are more distinct imo even if they are "normal dragons"

Alatreon has the big identifying horns, the spikes sticking out of its limbs, a stockier body and a much thicker than usual tail as well as that patch of spikes on its chest

Fatalis is very elongated and wyrm-like, elongated snout, longer neck, a longer more snake-like body, a longer tail, thinner limbs, etc

[turbid moat]

I mean you get the other black dragons in there and its a lot of splitting the difference on what details are 'A Normal Dragon' - Alatreon and Fatalis have multiple appearances to Safi's one

[naive elk]

I will also say i am and always have been a Safi'jiiva hater so i'm biased but yeah that's how i feel at least

[turbid moat]

you're gonna get a lot of defenses that boil out to 'is acclimated to this being The Dragon'

love fatalis's mechanics but the design itself does fuck-all for me, it really is Just A Dragon

Alatreon has some fun stuff in the context of MH ecology

[naive elk]

I've only experienced both Alatreon and Fatalis in World so i am basing my knowledge of them on that

And yeah Safi'jiiva and Alatreon in battle both deviate a lot from the "normal dragon" shit

Which is something i will always give Safi'jiiva props on

The fight is actually very good and highlights its abnormalities quite well

Unlike Fatalis which really is very much like a classical dragon

Fatalis is very much styled as a evil european dragon

Very archetypical

Whereas Safi is obviously a much more modern take a la Dungeons and Dragons

[wicked prism]

Safi is good

I like to think the Xeno to Safi throughline like looking at the difference between an embryo and a human being

Safi radiates a lot of really good imposing power and the flip of "This is a big classical evil dragon BUT it shoots Kamehamehas" is good

[snow helm]

Yeah, I actually prefer Safi to Fatalis in almost every way. Fatalis is all snakey and skinny and has this almost cartoon dragon look that I don't think has translated well in to the newer games as it tries to hold its place as the scariest super apex of the world monster

[turbid moat]

Wiggly boi

[snow helm]

Safi has a slightly more generic design but I think it sells being the ultimate dragon better

I also just love the lasers and the way it glows, though I do agree they could have leaned in to the glowing constellation look a little more

[hearty kayak]

my favorite Elder is probally malzenzo

[snow helm]

I've never actually played Rise but I really like Gaismagorm. Any dragon where the wings have turned in to huge arms is an A+ design in my book

[rich valve]

Gaismagorm and Malzeno are both fun

although unfortunately as they never added an advanced form of Gaismagorm I think I fought him once and never had any reason to do so again 😅

[hearty kayak]

i liked ishvalda more out of the two

[rich valve]

Bloodblight is a little bit funny because it does just feel like "wait you just gave me a buff" sometimes

[hearty kayak]

I disliked the flying ones in rise a lot

[snow helm]

Overall I did too. I wish Shara had a little more color contrast in the design but everything else I incredible

Also Shara's theme is the best of any monster in any game

[naive elk]

Shara Ishvalda is cool

[hearty kayak]

some of the elders in rise lean a bit too hard into a gimmick

like the flying ones

[naive elk]

The fight isn't my favourite

[rich valve]

I liked Shara a lot too

[full sage]

fighting priMal with berserk+bloodlust+blood rite+blood awakening dual blades can lead to very funny "oh god I'm killing myself faster than you can kill me, but because you just hit me with bloodblight, I'm now healing faster and doing more damage"

[hearty kayak]

the third flying one is now what i consider the worst monster in the series

which used to be world's kushala

[naive elk]

A lot of my faves from world either have a fight i dislike and a design i enjoy, such as Xeno and Shara, or a fight i enjoy and a design i dislike, like Safi

[rich valve]

it took me a while to figure out what you mean by "flying one" but are you talking about the wind serpents?

I actually liked those fights a lot too 😅

[naive elk]

Narwa and Ibushi?

They are fine

As an Insect Glaive player

[hearty kayak]

You can tell they know everything hated kushala because they completely scrapped kushala's moveset from world and gave it an enitrely new one

[naive elk]

Nah, i'd attack

[hearty kayak]

every other returning monster kept most of their movesets

[rich valve]

although I would always end up swearing about my wire jump sending me just under one of the weapon platforms

[naive elk]

With this insect i summon: aerial dominance

[hearty kayak]

i think all the fliers are bad, with narwa being the best of the 3

due to it being slightly lower on the ground and the smaller arena

[rich valve]

ill be honest it never really felt like they were flying out of range for me, I'd only not be able to attack them due to attack animations generally speaking

Rathalos is worse for that than any of those guys

[frank epoch]

Namielle my beloved

[twin ibex]

Wait, Savi is supposed to be bug?

!!!

[naive elk]

It's a grown up Xeno'jiiva so yeah

Xeno is fairly bug-like as much as it also is very alien

[crude kayak]

I have gotten to Congalala in GU

I hate Congalala

[halcyon fractal]

https://vxtwitter.com/monsterhunter/status/1765648579597832337?s=20

YAH

[brave hazel]

God, I forgot how fucking cool the Zorah charge blade looks

Shame it won't be returning in the future

I doubt we'll be seeing another Zorah in future titles

[rich valve]

I liked the zorah gear aesthetically I think

[frank epoch]

I hope Zorah doesn't return

Or they change the fight

It's far and away my least favorite encounter in the series

It's gear does look cool though which is a shame

[rich valve]

oh yeah I wouldn't want the encounter back as it was

[full sage]

simply bring back the Wyporium

[lost niche]

I do feel like a zorah magdaros could be way more fun in an open-world title than the tightly scripted form we’ve had.

[rapid lion]

I'm suddenly thinking of the walking mausoleums from Elden Ring, but... bigger. Plus maybe a little Shadow of the Colossus (which I have never played and don't know that much about).

[rich valve]

I honestly don't think Open World Monster Hunter would be like, a good game

I think the mission structure is sort of essential

[outer heron]

monster hunter is capable of doing both, frankly

World is both

[frank epoch]

Guiding Lands was a glimpse into what open world might look like

[outer heron]

"open world" would more be

shifting the priority to the Guiding Lands equivalent, and likely keeping the present structure

just seeing a looser divide between areas (and wide-area expeditions were always a thing)

[rich valve]

well yeah and I mean I liked the guiding lands as a thing to do but I wouldn't like it if that was just the game, returning to the hub and taking missions is the main thing for me

and like the ability to travel in-game seamlessly from the rotten vale to the coral highlands would add a bunch of technical challenges that take away from developing other parts of the game while realistically adding basically nothing of value to me

[full sage]

it's neat to hear people talk about world's immersion and exploring the different locales and actually having to track the monster and the whole scoutfly thing and how open and immersive the world is
while internally just going
"boss fight? cool monster fight? boss fight? kill? kill? kill? wheeeeee"

[hearty kayak]

I liked world more then rise for those reasons

rise also gets too fast to the point slower weapons feel bad to play

i think world strikes the perfect balance

[wicked prism]

This is literally what the next one is promising to be

Wild's promising to be a big open world

[halcyon fractal]

https://vxtwitter.com/monsterhunter/status/1766373358227075572

hmm

abyssal lagi....

[rich valve]

As far as I know they have said virtually nothing about what Monster Hunter Wilds is

[outer heron]

fuck yeah

this makes up for nami and safi low rankings

the fact that both nami and abyssal lagi are in top 20

[halcyon fractal]

WATER MONSTER SWEEEEEEP

[zenith sedge]

I did not expect Abyssal Lagiacrus to make it, but I am certainly pleased that is has!

[halcyon fractal]

https://vxtwitter.com/3rdFleetHunter/status/1767006138363486696?s=20

[rich valve]

but what about final fantasy brave exvius zinogre 🤔

[wicked prism]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dk3IvdNOYMQ

[rich valve]

I wonder how the results would have been if subspecies were combined with the normal variant, but probably it would not have turned out all that different
Surprised but pleased to see Lagiacrus and Nergigante at 2 and 3 (although Nergi shouldn't be such a shock in retrospect given how World is still selling)

[mystic cape]

Nergigante managed to get into the top 10 twice, nice

[rich valve]

I suspect that if you combined both nergigantes and also combined every kind of zinogre vote then Zinogre would still win, but who knows...

Zinogre being number one is not a surprise at all but also I can't fault it because Zinogre is very cool

[wicked prism]

ZINOGRE SWEEP

YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

[hearty kayak]

I do think world yeah well affect things

honestly before world monster hunter was much more niche

[wicked prism]

There's gonna be one on which Theme is most popular next

https://www.reddit.com/r/MonsterHunter/comments/1bcvti4/another_hunters_choice_event_is_coming_up/

[hearty kayak]

I hope wilds is more like world then rise

Having played both back to back, world feels less gamey to me

world feels more less predictable

[mystic cape]

Could you elaborate?

[hearty kayak]

A good example is monster fight

the only do it once maybe twice in a round of rise

in world they will sit there and fight for a good min

and do it several times per round

rise feels like it just places two monsters in the same spot just so you can do the mounted attacks

then they never fight again ussally

[wicked prism]

My thing about Rise is mainly the environment and the like

aesthetics of attacks

it feels very Video Game Fight Time

[hearty kayak]

yeah

[wicked prism]

you're in large open flat arenas

and attacks are clear orbs and beams

[hearty kayak]

world feels much more like an actual place

with wild animals

monsters behavior patterns

i think world has that good balance of streamlinging but still technical enough you need prep

and rewarded for that prep

[stuck needle]

I think a lot of Rise's scope and gamefeel come from it being a Switch game -- it's the latest portable game, basically. It's hard to tell whether the weapon changes will stick around, but I can't see them making the Rise trailer and deliberately aiming for something as small and focused as Rise

[hearty kayak]

I hope swichskills stay around

even if in a more nerfed fashion

just the ablity to change your moves in general even if they removed the dodge and the mid battle swich

is amazing

[stuck needle]

the trailer implies we can carry multiple different weapons. that might be their answer to changing moves in battle

[hearty kayak]

god eater let you have a gun and a melee weapo nat the same time

[frank epoch]

Where was this? I thought they were doing like one a day and were on like #15 or something

[hearty kayak]

god eater has neat weapons

[undone bolt]

they were building up to the top 10 and then released the rest all at once

[stuck needle]

that almost feels backwards 😅

[hearty kayak]

god eater weapons are also alive and can transform mid combat which is really neat

[halcyon fractal]

ZINOGRE SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP

[hearty kayak]

https://www.kotaku.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/04/1415701801393039397.gif?quality=75?quality=75

https://www.kotaku.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/04/1415701802595339045.gif?quality=75?quality=75

[outer heron]

they put out the top 10 at the same time I think late yesterday

or possibly just now/this morning, but they def announced that it was happening yesterday-ish

[frank epoch]

Gotcha

[rich valve]

they did the top 10 during their 20th anniversary retrospective video early this morning

[rich valve]

Switching entire weapons I'd be worried about just in terms of it being a little disorienting and making armour builds a lot more complicated 😅

but I also do hope that some form of switch skills stay around (we can lose most of the silkbind ones but a few are nice)

[rich valve]

I think also monster turf wars were a mechanical casualty of silkbind riding
invaders were heavily nerfed in terms of aggression in Rise because largely speaking a second monster showing up is good for you in that game rather than annoying

[outer heron]

I don't think silkbind was a good mechanic in the first place, and I think the shot to turf wars makes it worse

but I'm still glad rise tried it

[stuck needle]

you're not wrong! who knows how it'll work, but this bowgun hanging out on the mount in the trailer feels like a hint towards something in that vein. I wouldn't be shocked if you could only swap at camp (or at your dino, if it's like a mobile camp) instead of in seamlessly during fights. That'd let you swap armor around.

[hearty kayak]

Theres 100% some swich skills that dont use the wirebug that i think should return

I love the lance parry

I really liked the slinger

[rich valve]

I hope that grabbing bugs and frogs off the ground to throw at monsters is still a thing because I liked that in both World and Rise, although the fact that it was (in some form) in both is a good sign

riding the monsters is fun but I think ultimately not very healthy for the game 😅
but I want the marionette spider to stick around that one is great

[hearty kayak]

i think they realized the puppet spider wasnt good

which is why the marionette replaces most of them in sunbreak

[mystic cape]

Puppet Spider can be good if you use it properly. That is, getting the ride on a non-target monster and using them to mess up the target monster

Outside of that though, it is a bit of a non-starter

[rich valve]

I feel like you rarely need the puppet spider for that, non-target monsters have naturally quite low riding thresholds as it is

but I more just meant "the next game will probably be better off if you can't ride the monsters by any means" :p

[mystic cape]

You mean except our new bestest friend in the whole world in that above image?

[hearty kayak]

i like cluch claw slaming

[rich valve]

yes I suppose companions are technically "monsters" so I'm not counting the chocobo :p

who knows how it is going to work but I hope I don't have to pick between a riding mount or having fun utility skills in multiplayer like with felynes/dogs

speculating about the endgame is obviously very silly but while it contributed to the ridiculous power creep Rise had I did like Qurious Crafting more than decoration farming

[hearty kayak]

I think invesgations were an amazing idea in world and were sad they were gone in rise

[rich valve]

anomaly investigations in sunbreak were pretty similar but they weren't in base rise yeah

[mystic cape]

I honestly found anamoly investigations more frustrating than anything

[rich valve]

I sort of like the "switch up what hit zone you are attacking" idea but it's tiring if it's all you do

[hearty kayak]

The anomly ones arnet the same

they are just monsters but stronger

investgations in world had various things like less/more faints, limited players, diffrent monsters you needed to fight, afflected monsters, better rewards often, a way to target specific upsurges as well

[mystic cape]

Anamoly investigations had those two but they were hardly the focus

[hearty kayak]

i dont remmeber it having the rewards,faints,

just its materials

its also a post game late thing instead of something integrated for the entire thing

[rich valve]

anomaly investigations also have these (well, not upsurges)

it has faint limits and limited players, occasional apex monster invasions, etc

one thing I did like about anomaly investigations is the encouragement (for a little while until they stop being relevant again) to go and fight beefed up "low tier" monsters for a bit because I like making use of the whole roster but obviously they can't really keep the whole gang in rotation

[full sage]

less faints, less players, less time (though the last one was mostly irrelevant as always) were all really useful for anomaly rank grinding

[rich valve]

if the time limit went down to 15 it could get very dicey but 25 is I think the minimum in Rise which is rarely hugely worrying

[brave hazel]

Investigations weren't in Rise?

That's stupid

They're such a good way to get rarer materials

[full sage]

they... kind of are? there's "a system of procedurally generated quests that have varying conditions that includes a means to get rarer materials more easily"

[stuck needle]

but in base Rise (pre-sunbreak), no. you just repeated a fixed quest that had the monster you wanted.

[wicked citrus]

A bit weird really that Investigations weren't kept into the MH formula for Base Rise. It was really fucking weird since Investigations were really good in World/Iceborne

[hearty kayak]

i don't even consider the invesrgations in sunbreak the same

[wicked citrus]

They really aren't

Yeah

I feel like MH is getting abit too easy now. Here's hoping MHWilds takes a step back to their roots.

[rich valve]

well worth remembering that Rise and World were made by different teams

so what gets preserved between games is a bit of a toss-up

[weak gulch]

Relatively sure it's the Generations Ultimate/portable team that made Rise, which gives more context to the design direction.

[weak gulch]

In my experiences, World Iceborne manages to tune the difficulty back up, takes into account the ability to craft stuff more easily in the field.

[hearty kayak]

Honestly i think world gets rid of alot of the bad parts of the older stuff

[weak gulch]

I tried GU again and not having the sprint button auto-sheath is quite a corner to bump into.

[hearty kayak]

Theres a lot of stuffi n the older games that is just outright garbage undefendable game design

[weak gulch]

yells in book of combos

[hearty kayak]

like pickaxes bugnets, whetstones being something you need to bring and have to farm

THE RANDOMIZED EGG DROPPING

[weak gulch]

idk about random egg dropping, but there's a painful number of ways to drop eggs pre-world

[hearty kayak]

basicly while sprinted you had a random chance to drop the gg

[gentle knoll]

wait as in the bird kick doesn't guarantee egg?

oh that

[hearty kayak]

i really don't agree with the "world is too streamlined" no the older games are wrong having played them

world has the good fidly prep bits but lost the bad ones

like in order to unlock food you need to hunt down account items, do dilvery quests etc

and doing so lets you make pretty strong food

This is a good reward for good work

i much perfer it over dango

[weak gulch]

I think item resupply is the biggest change to hunt difficulty, but (Iceborne's amped monster damage/aggro, and flash bomb resistance account for that).

I really hope WIlds dosen't keep the absurd stun duration though (aprox 10 sec base).

[outer heron]

iceborne monsters are demons on crack

[outer heron]

i think that player stuns are just legitimately an obsolete mechanic that should be phased out

because all of the like

"final endgame armor" for all of the most recent games have had "oh yeah and also stun res 3" tacked on

[weak gulch]

Stuns in Low Rank I can manage, but High/G/Master rank turns it into a death sentence without distractions.

[outer heron]

it's obvious that they consider stuns something To Be Removed from player risk

and it's just

either a tax or a pain in the fucking ass

a stun almost universally means that you die off of one hit when it's been filled

you take a lovetap for 25-30%, get stunned, and take a fist of god for the rest

it's just not a good punish mechanic, the way it works

[weak gulch]

I highly suspect World Azure Rathalos has boosted stun power too

[hearty kayak]

my main issue with stun is how random stun is

[outer heron]

because it's a pseudo-"random" effect

players can't see their stun building

so it just triggers abruptly

and then kills you automatically

"random instant cart mechanic" isn't a good way to punish people learning

just having like

[hearty kayak]

i do not beleive that a stun build up exists based on the other day when with me with stun resist got stunned 4-5 times more then my friend

[outer heron]

instant death buttons

genuinely feels a lot less unfair

because you go "ah shit it's the Kills You Attack"

[weak gulch]

Pretty sure Stun Reistance only helps with the duration part

[outer heron]

yeah

[wicked citrus]

Are we talkjng about Player being stunned or Player stunning monster here?

[outer heron]

stun res is just duration -> immunity

player being stunned

[wicked citrus]

I dunno, I am mixed on the whole player being stunned. On one hand, it is annoying as hell. But on the other hand, it kinda incentivises you to be more fucking careful with hunting the monster.

[outer heron]

i mean, attacks that instantly kill you do that too

but they feel less shitty than a stun

because you know that This Attack is the one that gets you

not a vibe check

and it's something that you can kind of just...remove

but it takes a gear tax

[weak gulch]

For me, it's the absurd duration of World stun (~10 sec) that makes me put on at least +2 Stun Res to reduce it to ~2 sec. I've gone for full imunity in Master Rank builds.

[wicked citrus]

Ah right, the long duration of stun. For me the thing that kinda throws off the fight for me is the monster's eternal clutch claw flinch. Like it kinda trivializes fights a bit in Iceborne.

Like to the point I slapped on the ICE mod for Iceborne just to make them feel like actual monsters again.

[weak gulch]

I've mostly ran solo (+palico), the "use clutch claw here" flinch feels pretty short still.

[wicked citrus]

I drank a full anim health potion and ate a whole ass steak with no speed eating skill and the monster was still in clutch claw flinch. What you mean it feels short?

[hearty kayak]

i don't know what you mean by cluch claw flinch

[outer heron]

the clagger

when a monster stops moving and starts drooling

it's a period of "stun" that's intended to be used to get in a clutch claw

which itself has an extra animation of the monster flinching again if you use it in time, and extends the stun duration

intended for tenderizing, primarily

[hearty kayak]

i thought that always existed and it was from draning stamina

[outer heron]

but you can also just claw the monster and then hop off

[frank epoch]

there's a specific pose that they do that's different from the typical drooling stance/animation

[outer heron]

and have the extended stagger without committing to a tender

[frank epoch]

they sort of back off to the side and drool instead of standing in place

[outer heron]

yeah, and also kind of curl into themselves a bit

[weak gulch]

Ah, I'm probably mixing up exhaust and claw stagger

[brave hazel]

Agreed, stuns are fucking stupid

Especially when you're on fucking fire

Literally immolating alive and we gotta go through this song and dance again

[rich valve]

ive had stun resist 3 on for basically the entire of rise purely because greatsword Tackle and Rage Slash lets me hyper armour through attacks... but the reduced damage doesnt reduce how much stun buildup i get

[mellow harness]

the one argument i can see for stuns is that they incentivize teamwork by encouraging nearby teammates to knock you out.

but like

this is not a multiplayer only game

[real zodiac]

Stuns are just every monster has para

Except Para monsters, which also have para

[brave hazel]

Half the time people will just straight up run past you while you're standing there waiting for your character to stop having conniptions over being hit

[torn perch]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMMG5a0j3wk

[twin ibex]

Pfft

[lean vector]

Hey, does anyone still play rise? I finally got sunbreak and im going thru the main stuff to get to it. Whos waiting at G rank?

[halcyon fractal]

https://vxtwitter.com/MHAnonymous_/status/1773040781571375116?t=CYY9lvccx7Ma59h8Pg4lZA&s=19

[naive elk]

bruh

[undone bolt]

dungeon

strip them of their guild membership

exile

[naive elk]

feed them to the Jagras

[brave hazel]

Make them fight Zorah Magdaros

[rapid lion]

Welp, I'm... not ready to take on Tempered Bezelgeuse (or maybe I am and I just got tilted too easy).

Still very fun when monsters can true combo out of roars and you need four points in a skill to do anything against it (when the charm to stop it only goes providing a max of three points).

[hearty kayak]

what weapon are you using?

[rapid lion]

dual blades. I was using the Kadachi Claws III specifically (next time I play, I'm probably going to go after Kirin to get an even better lightning weapon).

Also thanks to connection issues it might have been scaled for multiplayer?

[hearty kayak]

if your using db your choices are earplugs or dodge

[frank epoch]

Rocksteady and Evasion mantle can also help significantly

[rapid lion]

I don't have either of those yet. I think I just need to practice more, get more used to the game, go in solo from the get-go rather than having them maybe scaled for multiplayer, and probably just have better gear.

Like... instead of bringing Legiana gear for the Greed, I finish farming my Teostra set (and then figure out which specific pieces I want).

[weak gulch]

You'll definitely want better gear to survive the fight in the first place with Tempered monsters, the boosted damage makes solid hits especially punishing.

Has mostly the same moves as regular? Bazel itself is pretty nasty for weapons without ways to attack from a distance/off the floor.

[rapid lion]

this is probably a very cold take but I hate the crossover content... like... conceptually. There's a whole big Thing about how everything the monsters do is allegedly grounded in physics and part of a natural environment, and then Elder Dragons are special since they flaunt those rules in odd ways. And then here comes Literal Magic crashing in from the sidelines Just Because.

And when you add the fact that Cactaurs are just... permanently in the Wildspire Wastes, you can't even exclusively go "oh, it's just noncanon missions, ignore them" because it's intruded into this world. Just for product placement.

[open python]

@umbral osprey Yo, wanna hunt some MR Kulve Taroth?

[umbral osprey]

Sorry I would have but I needed to go to bed

[umbral osprey]

And I would've been down to do some tonight but I got a commander game to go to

[umbral osprey]

@open python You still down to play?

my commander game just got cannceled

[open python]

Just got home; you still around?

[umbral osprey]

Unfortunately no now is about when I go to bed

[open python]

Ah well

I'll catch you another time

[twilit granite]

im in high master rank rn and im trying to make some actually good elemental sets but i really don't wanna wait for kulve taroth in two weeks. Is there a mod or something i can use?

[umbral osprey]

i belive the silver rath set is a good enough alternative

[turbid moat]

Silverlos is pretty good for bow but requires a lot of decos and MR100 at which point you also just Kulve

[turbid moat]

Check out the USJ Event quests and go for the armor. The barioth one gets you the armor tickets

It has better base skills than silverlos and you can swap the belt I believe to swap elemental attacks

[sudden depot]

Is it weird for me to find greatswords easier than any other weapon in the game

[hearty kayak]

yeah somewhat

[sudden depot]

People always say sword and shield is the beginner weapon or something but I just found greatswords a lot easier even when starting out

[rich valve]

that sort of makes sense to me, greatsword is not like... technical

so it's mostly about learning general good gameplay execution skills

[gentle knoll]

but yeah GS has a pretty simple moveset so depending on what you find difficult to start with

[sudden depot]

It’s the move set that I have problems with

Learning all the combos never really clicks with me

So much as learning when to dodge, when to hit, when to retreat, when to set up traps or abuse terrain, etc

[gentle knoll]

ok that sounds like you can have lance as a backup if you ever want to branch out

or GL, both have somewhat simple moveset as well

assuming range weapons aren't in consideration

[sudden depot]

I tried bows before

I think I did okay with a charge blade or a switch axe

[frank epoch]

Greatsword is easy because it has a low weapon knowledge floor requirement to be useful but good monster knowledge requirement

If you know the monster well greatsword is very easy

[wicked prism]

I did the entirety of World with GS

[rich valve]

I had a great time with Rise GS (although I am not such a fan of Strongarm Stance, hope that one doesn't return in Wilds)

[sudden depot]

strongarm stance is fun though

good counter

[rich valve]

yeah but I don't want a counter 😅

that's not a greatsword thing

[cyan tulip]

it kiiiinda is

tackle exists

[gentle knoll]

does tackle do something on eating a hit?

or merely armor through?

[sudden depot]

tackle grants superarmor

so that you can endure a blow and then hit'em with a charged strike

very useful tactic

nowadays you do strongarm stance instead if you got the wires for it I suppose

[rich valve]

tackle is a block not a counter as far as I reckon things

[sudden depot]

greatsword also has block!

which is occasionally useful

[gentle knoll]

oh yeah that reminds me, does any other weapon lose sharpness on block outside what my friend swears charge blade does

in world

[sudden depot]

I do know that blocking with charge blade does deplete sharpness

i'm not sure about any other one

[gentle knoll]

i kinda want to apply logic and assume GS since both are technically blocking with a blade

[sudden depot]

greatsword does also lose sharpness

[undone bolt]

SnS and lances do not lose sharpness

[real zodiac]

In rise there is a silkbind block that sharpens

[mystic cape]

TMK the only weapons that lose sharpness when you block are GS and CB

GS cause you're blocking with the sword, CB cause the shield is also the axe blade

With SnS, Lance, and GL while you can attack with the shield sometimes they aren't the main attacking option

Even then most of the shield attacking is SnS on variable moves or comboes

[full sage]

shield attacking was your primary combo in base rise since even though it didn't apply your weapon's element/status, you were running raw anyways, and it didn't cost sharpness, so you only used sharpness on spinning reaper

[mystic cape]

Also it applied Exhaust damage which could KO

Not a lot

But it's nice when it procs

[full sage]

...honestly, with metsu shoryugeki being part of the kit, I think I got more kos using sword and shield than with hammer.

[halcyon fractal]

this sucks

[naive elk]

Khezu moment

[terse yew]

https://lonestarloser.tumblr.com/post/720311106007089152/my-cleric-and-her-puppy-loosely-monhun-themed

Big puppy

Also solidly built for an elf cleric

[halcyon fractal]

I am gonna grind SO hard for what is, I think, a mediocre weapon

Bazel Prozio Rooksearer...

I don't even use the LS

[mystic cape]

That's what weapon transmog is for

[halcyon fractal]

but I don't have weapon transmog yet

<--- has just killed shara

i'm pretty sure the raging brach one is better

buuuuut

[rich valve]

If there's one thing I hope they keep from Rise it's Layered Armour becoming available relatively early (though I would not complain about earlier)
although Layered Weapons were still only "after the final boss of the expansion" iirc

[mystic cape]

Then you can do it, just need to farm certain Guiding Lands materials

[halcyon fractal]

wait what

🤔

does that include seething bazel guiding lands mats

[mystic cape]

I don't recall

I could also be thinking of something else

I just know you have access to it now

Because beating Shara is the point you start unlocking all the endgame stuff

[undone bolt]

how can it be mediocre when it looks so dang cool

[rich valve]

unfortunately it is a parrying sword designed for catching and breaking other swords and there's only one other monster who is fighting you with a sword 😔

[mystic cape]

Also it has negative affinity and not enough raw to compenste since it also needs to account for the Blast it has going on

[halcyon fractal]

😔 it shouldn't be that hard to get rid of the negative affinity, right?

[outer heron]

yeah but if you were using a different weapon you'd either have way better raw or high affinity

[weak gulch]

I think the 2x Size 1 deco slots might help offset the affinity? Seems fine/usable outside of really serious hunts. https://mhworld.kiranico.com/en/weapons/j4uafWj/bazel-prozio-rooksearer

[halcyon fractal]

I THINK I MIGHT'VE MADE A BAD DECISION

wasted a celestial for it 😔

[crude kayak]

what was it?

[halcyon fractal]

I spent a celestial print to get a bazel mantle 😔

so I could make my current LS

I don't even know how to use it

it looks cool though

[crude kayak]

you will figure it out

probably

possibly

likely

[halcyon fractal]

status: FORESIGHT SLASH

idk if its mentioned in the hunter's notes

but like, does the LS in World/Iceborne have a parry

or is that only a Generations/GenU and Rise/Sunbreak kinda thing

[outer heron]

it does

don't remember which button it is, but i think it's on the resheathe anim

[halcyon fractal]

ohhh its the Spirit Iai Slash

with some perfect timing,

Valor moment 🤔

[real zodiac]

Base world also has uhhh

The dodge slash

I can't remember the name, but you evade through and attack and counterattack. If you dodge through an attack it fills your spirit gauge and let's you shortcut to the end of your spirit combo

Foresight slash!

You just have to combo into it

[halcyon fractal]

Ohhh I see

[halcyon fractal]

nice

[brave hazel]

Eh, you can get a celestial print once per day at the Steamworks, don't worry about it

[halcyon fractal]

ahh I see

[halcyon fractal]

🤔

is the Namielle LS good?

as a water LS

or are there better ones?

[crude kayak]

""Meta"" elemental weapons are mostly kjarr weapons

[halcyon fractal]

ah damn

haven't gotten to Kulve yet

[crude kayak]

But that's only if one cares about such things

[crude kayak]

Azure Star (from USJ event quests) is maybe a bit better?

[halcyon fractal]

🤔

[crude kayak]

Eventually gets to purple sharpness and has two level 4 decoration slots

But not sure when in the game you are yet.

It's mostly for endgame.

[halcyon fractal]

I just beat Shara

well

and rajang too

I guess I want it since it looks gotdamn beautiful

[crude kayak]

that's valid

[halcyon fractal]

my set btw, note the bazel prozio rooksearer

looking to get the kushala chestplate and legs

for the handicraft

[halcyon fractal]

HOORAY I DID IT

[halcyon fractal]

my JRPG ass lookin fit VS whats under the hood

[naive elk]

Drip is supreme

[gilded mountain]

Oh hey the important thread.

Kulu drip is S tier

I'm on the derust cycle again because of brain no worky infection. Mostly playing Rise atm, need to actually finish the challenge quests and arenas in Iceborne, every time I'm almost back in form something pulls me away 😦

[naive elk]

dis my fit

[halcyon fractal]

ooh pretty

[mystic cape]

My World look is a bit basic TBH, just a mix of pieces from the very final Monster cause I wanted to show off I killed its sorry ass enough t make it all

[gilded mountain]

I'll grab my styles when I get home I run more than a few tbh

[gilded mountain]

Orite I was gonna post my MHW drip. Lemme grab before I go to bed.

and of course the wiggler, which I wear when I'm hanging with the low rankers and being hunter sensei

[halcyon fractal]

pretty!

[halcyon fractal]

millia rage

[gilded mountain]

Nice 😄

I love that

TBH, "rainbow catgirl power armor" was a request from my blood sister, since she didn't like how world treated cosmetics, but hey

we do what we can to help

[halcyon fractal]

i am revolture man

revolture man

[meager kernel]

anybody out there and interested in some World? (I could also do Rise, but I've not made much progress there, so you might have to help carry me)

[umbral osprey]

sure if your still on

[meager kernel]

Give me 15 ish minutes? I actually went to sleep, and just got back up, so I'm making some food

[umbral osprey]

kk ill sit in one of the chats

[gilded mountain]

Well I pulled my brain together and started derusting world

Just a bunch of SOSes tonight but it felt pretty good

[umbral osprey]

if you want you can come join

[gilded mountain]

I think my regular crew's forming up, but honestly I should hunt with yall at some point

[halcyon fractal]

good hunter, why are you in Seliana?

[real zodiac]

To find my worth in the waking world

[hollow comet]

what's that hat?

[mystic cape]

Pukei Pukei gear IINM

[hollow comet]

tyty

[timber sparrow]

https://vxtwitter.com/MidnightBoshi/status/1789656272742256995

[brave hazel]

Oh whoops, I dropped this, oh dear, oh shoot
https://www.nexusmods.com/monsterhunterworld/mods/2155

[hollow comet]

:o

[halcyon fractal]

👀

ty ty

[halcyon fractal]

AUGHHHH

there were MOLYS right in FRONT of ME

and I DIDN'T CAPTURE THEM because i took TOO LONG taking out my CAPTURE NET

L + skill issue moment

[timber sparrow]

dont forget the ratio

[halcyon fractal]

the RATIOOOOOOOOOOO

😭

I am never gonna live this down

much like the time I got a red combo in the Steamworks, while the Palicos were guiding me, except I fumbled and missed the combo

[meager kernel]

If anyone is up for some Monster Hunter (World for mid-to-low MR, Rise for EARLY game) I'll be on in 10-15 minutes

[gilded mountain]

Yeah I think I need to have a wheel bind for capture net lol

I'm SUUUUURE it won't kill me

[hollow comet]

[frank epoch]

you've got this!

[brave hazel]

BEAT HIS ASS

[halcyon fractal]

King of the skies my ASS
motherfucker can't even hold a candle to other flying wyverns

and Rajang

but no one can hondle a candle against rajang

and if the big ape can manhandle that wyvern, so can you!

you have opposable thumbs too!

[hallow shale]

https://www.gematsu.com/2024/05/monster-hunter-series-sales-top-100-million-monster-hunter-rise-tops-15-million

[hollow comet]

HECK YOU

[halcyon fractal]

YAYYYYY

[hollow comet]

i spent 20 mins chasing this mf around the map

then like half that actually fighting

[halcyon fractal]

if you got flash pods, you can blast them under his nose and he'll come careening down

[hollow comet]

true...

[halcyon fractal]

even when he's flying to a new area

[hollow comet]

i should craft some more poison knives and flash pods n stuff

ooh dang

ok

will keep that in mind if i go for rathalos LS

but for that i need rathian

[halcyon fractal]

just be sure to flash him when he's still flying out of the zone, and not to another one

[hollow comet]

gotcha

[halcyon fractal]

🤔 also the rathian Charge Blade looks sick af

but the LS is cool too

[hollow comet]

ooh new room

[halcyon fractal]

I still need to finish the dante quest to get the DMC charge blade

yeah!

[hollow comet]

i'm a lil drippy now too

oh yeah dmc

😌

HR 16 tho

that's far

[halcyon fractal]

I see you're wearing the Legiana chestpiece

good sense of fashion

and yeah 😔

[hollow comet]

hehe

yeah i've got 3 pieces on

they look good

and also chance for more rewards

[halcyon fractal]

indeed

I remember rocking the Odo armor for a majority of HR

its nice, love me that affinity

rath cb...

[real zodiac]

Rather cb looks so good

[hollow comet]

oooh

[gilded mountain]

Yeee hype

[brave hazel]

God, I wish the Seliana house got some of the stuff that this room and the private suite have

Namely a nicer garden

And a tree that doesn't look dead

[timber sparrow]

but big house means more creatures

[brave hazel]

Yeah but

No plant

Well, less plant, anyway

[timber sparrow]

idk, infinite creature

[brave hazel]

More greture is nice though

And more customization

[timber sparrow]

@hollow comet you know you can put lil guys in your room right

took me too long to find that

[brave hazel]

Kidnap the local wildlife and force it into a life of domestication it 100% wouldn't gel with realistically

...god, it's weird how chill the animals you capture are

[timber sparrow]

free food

[brave hazel]

Yeah, but like

You'd think they'd act more like wild animals

[timber sparrow]

no predators too

[brave hazel]

The only exception being the bugs and crabs and such

They don't have enough braincells to care

[wicked prism]

https://x.com/wario64/status/1790804502930424077?s=46&t=TL1l5ze1eqDUgU-oKK8k-A

Wario64 (@Wario64) on X

Humble Games Bundle: Monster Hunter franchise https://t.co/VZUIA3KHGF #ad

Twitter · May 15, 2024, 6:00 PM

30 dollar MH bundle!

[halcyon fractal]

hehehehehe

got that teostra technique babyyy

[naive elk]

nice

[halcyon fractal]

yeah!

the drip

of this swaxe build

[naive elk]

nice!

[halcyon fractal]

ty!

[hollow comet]

sheeesh that's nice :D

[naive elk]

this is my build that i built for the endgame

and the drip™️

[hollow comet]

woah that's a cool mask

[naive elk]

spent a lot more time working on the drip than the build tbh

[halcyon fractal]

oooh pretty

I just disregard healthboost for divine blessing

[naive elk]

fair

[halcyon fractal]

it helps when it happens and it really fucking hurts when it doesn't 😔

[naive elk]

i mean tbh free meal and speed eating are my favourite build to run

this is my endgame optimized build

i tend towards running utility when i'm not doing higher level content

just cause it's so much more fun

[halcyon fractal]

that's fair! More fun the better

a few more drips

2 longswords, a hunting horn, and an HBG

[halcyon fractal]

I used to run free meal lvl 1 on my swaxe build

🤔

[halcyon fractal]

thanks

[hollow comet]

💖

i hope to achieve drip someday

[naive elk]

i run max level free meal and speed eating

[halcyon fractal]

ooh

[naive elk]

free meal at max is incredibly good

you basically double all your consumables

or more

[brave hazel]

Speed Eater is good to have too

Don't listen to other people, it's so fucking nice to have even just one level

[naive elk]

speed eating is like

required comfort

i mean i literally run it on my optimized build at max level

it's just that good

[void narwhal]

also Hunter just going to absolute town on well-cooked meat is funni

[naive elk]

anyone who tells you not to run speed eating is on some insane copium

maybe you don't need it if you're absolutely cracked at the game and do full hunts with no hp for damage boost or smthn

[brave hazel]

Especially given the fact that for some godforsaken reason consuming anything takes fucking ages

ESPECIALLY POTIONS

[naive elk]

but running Speed Eating is NEVER a bad thing

the ability to quickly consume a potion in a dire situation is really fucking good

[brave hazel]

DON'T SIP AT IT YOU MINGUS JUST CHUG IT

[void narwhal]

Didja play the oldschool monster hunters? Potions used to have you stand in place and do a little pose

[brave hazel]

And yeah, I know, "dude just run max potions", and I do

But for some reason they stop to just

Admire it?

[naive elk]

old school hunters want the smoke or smthn

[brave hazel]

Which is kinda weird cause like, that's the last thing you want to do when you need to shove a pill down your gob quickly

[naive elk]

just stand there looking goofy ah while the monster is coming at you at mach speed

[void narwhal]

well, it's probably important to know if this is the Steroids Pill or the Full Life Pill

[brave hazel]

I have not, and that is the primary reason why

[brave hazel]

True

[void narwhal]

They had some real clunk to 'em for sure, made the combat real weighty though

'Just exit the 30'x30' zone that can be loaded and drink while completely safe' was a somewhat unimmersive workaround

[frank epoch]

New players don't appreciate The Flex

[naive elk]

generally speaking i don't think it would be a problem for me

i don't make a habit of standing near monsters when i drink a potion

but it's still kinda goofy to just stand there

[full sage]

i've been playing mhgu a lot more lately and

1. ahtal-ka is still a really, really fun fight
2. which is good because christ the amount of farming that thing you have to do

[naive elk]

i'm considering jumping into one of the older games on my 2ds XL purely so i can fight Dalamadur

which is my favourite MH monster

[full sage]

it's just really funny go back to my old end game sets and they have like
4-5 skills, max

compared to post world

[frank epoch]

I appreciate how much more deliberate/methodical the combat in the older games were. Healing was risky if you didn't change areas which wasn't always possible, and being unable to access your big chest meant you had to be more careful.

[frank epoch]

Fellow GU enjoyer

I had to farm a shitload of Akantor for The Drip

GU is pretty far and away my favorite

[full sage]

the best parts of gu are some of my favorite parts of monster hunter as a whole, I would just rather go back to an old save file rather than grind through the entire progression again because while the highs are extremely high, the lows are uh
yeah

[naive elk]

i'll have to give it a try

[full sage]

so many cool monsters, so many cool weapon designs, every fight designed post 4th gen has a lot to love about it

[frank epoch]

Testing every new weapon on G2(?) Rathian in Ancestral Steppe

[naive elk]

i only have MH Generations on my 3ds, not ultimate apparently

[frank epoch]

Ultimate is a switch exclusive

Or wait

[full sage]

XX was on the 3ds

[frank epoch]

MHXX might

Yeah

[full sage]

ultimate was only switch in the west

we got XX in japan before world
but world came out before gu could come out in the west

[frank epoch]

I still have to beat Grimclaw XV

XIV almost killed me

[naive elk]

seems i can grab them and a translation patch

so i might just do that

[frank epoch]

Got that fuckin hunting horn though

[full sage]

i've still only gotten Silverwind EX and Hellblade EX done of those two fights

[naive elk]

guess i'll grab XX on my 2dsxl then

[frank epoch]

EX is the one you have to do for the layered armor tickets right?

I might be conflating Grimclaw XV with EX

[full sage]

EX is the extreme high difficulty one that gives you the special armor dyes
I don't know if that also gives you the ability to layer their armors, but probably

it's entirely optional if you just want to max out the weapons/armor

[naive elk]

i oughta play with my 3ds more often

[frank epoch]

Yeah yeah I'm remembering now. I think it went up to G5 and then EX

[naive elk]

i started playing 4u i think it was for Dalamadur

[frank epoch]

EX is hard

Grimclaw was anyway. Still haven't beaten it

[queen jewel]

https://www.humblebundle.com/games/monster-hunter-world-rise-saga?hmb_source=&hmb_medium=product_tile&hmb_campaign=mosaic_section_1_layout_index_1_layout_type_threes_tile_index_1_c_monsterhunterworldrisesaga_bundle

$30 for World, Iceborne, Rise, and Sunbreak

[halcyon fractal]

chat do I

should I?

I have one

what's 9,998 more?

[timber sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/what-is-one-more-sad-gif-15801020

[halcyon fractal]

y'know what screw this